WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:06.280 It's Nightside with Dan Ray on w BZY, Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:10.960 Well, welcome back everyone. There is a governor's race that 3 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:15.320 is actually I think underway at this point, a little early, 4 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:18.679 but never too early for politics. Here on Nightside, my 5 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:21.760 name is Dan Ray, and I'm delighted to welcome one 6 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:26.000 of the major candidates for governor here in Massachusetts, Mike Kanneely. 7 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:27.800 Mike Kanneely, Welcome to Nightside. 8 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:31.160 How are you, sir, Hey, Dan, I'm great, Thanks so 9 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:32.960 much and great to be with you tonight. 10 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:37.200 Well, thanks very much for joining us. We had another 11 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:41.600 Republican on Tuesday night, Brian Shortsleeve, who is I think 12 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:44.799 going to be a significant candidate for governor as you 13 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:49.000 will be on the Republican side. And my sense is 14 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:51.520 that the Republican Party might be a little stronger in 15 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:57.719 this state in twenty twenty six than they have been 16 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:00.679 in recent years. Do you get a sense the Republican 17 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:02.799 Party is growing a little bit at this point? 18 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:05.079 Well, I do, Dan. 19 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:07.040 I'm proud of the fact that over the last couple 20 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:08.840 of years, I've done a lot of work to support 21 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:11.840 the party and make our party stronger and more competitive. 22 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:14.959 So coming out of the Baker administration. In early twenty 23 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:17.359 twenty three, I signed on its finance share for the 24 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:20.920 party and spent two years raising money for the party 25 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:24.799 to support the party and its candidates, investing significant amount 26 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:26.920 of my own money in those races as well, and 27 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:29.239 really getting the message out that we are a party 28 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:32.040 that wants to compete, that needs to compete, and in 29 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:35.359 a state where we're a strong majority independent state, I 30 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:38.040 don't think those voters want one party rule. And so 31 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:41.319 we are a state that's sixty five percent independent, but 32 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:43.920 yet one party controls everything. So yes, I think the 33 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:47.439 party is a lot stronger, a lot more motivated. And look, 34 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:49.640 this is the governor. We just absolutely have to win. 35 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:51.719 And I hear this every day around the state that 36 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:54.200 governor heally is failing us in so many dimensions. So 37 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:57.840 the party is stronger, the message is stronger, and this 38 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:00.480 is a must win race for us. Will say, you know, 39 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:02.640 I made this point before. I want to be governor 40 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:04.840 of all the people, but I will be the Republican 41 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:07.439 governor of all the people. I look forward to working 42 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:10.000 with everyone to continue to make our parties strong at 43 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:13.759 all levels. And the governor's off, Yeah, the governor's I 44 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:16.319 was currently important. All races will be important as well. 45 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:19.800 Yeah. Absolutely. One of the themes of this program is 46 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:24.120 that any state needs two competitive parties. I mean, if 47 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:27.759 I was working in Utah, I would be advocating to 48 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:32.039 strengthen the Democratic Party. We see in other states around 49 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:37.120 New England. Event in New Hampshire, Christanunu, who, with all 50 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.960 due respect to your former boss, Charlie Baker, I feel 51 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:43.960 Christan Una was the best governor in the state. You 52 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:46.919 have a different type of governor over in a little 53 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:51.039 bit of a different flavored governor over in Virginia, Phil Scott. 54 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:56.280 If you're elected to become governor, who would people identify 55 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:58.199 you with? Would you be a more of a Christian 56 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:00.560 Nunu or Phil Scott, Charlie Baker or I guess you 57 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:01.719 could say of Mike Kanneely. 58 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:05.560 Well, you know what, Dan, from the start, we've said 59 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:07.879 we're not we're going to resist labels over the course 60 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.439 of the campaign, and we're not going to articulate my 61 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:13.719 campaign in the context of that of other politicians. I'm 62 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:15.800 going to be out with my ideas, my vision for 63 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:18.639 the state, informed by what the people of Massachusetts tell 64 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:21.280 me every day, so that we view the race and 65 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:22.759 how we view the issues in the campaign. 66 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:27.520 Okay, so in terms of I hate the phrase thirty 67 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:30.520 second elevated pitch, but give us some. If you meet 68 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:32.360 someone in the street and they say, hey, I heard 69 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:35.120 you on Night's Out of the Other Night, tell them 70 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:38.240 our audience a little bit about yourself, your background, so 71 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:41.400 we can just kind of frame who Mike Kannely is 72 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:42.680 and then we can get to some issues. 73 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:46.280 I'm happy to do it, Dan soo. Dan, I'm a 74 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:49.560 son of Massachusetts, raised in Medford and Ready. My mom 75 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:51.800 took care of kids. My dad was a member of 76 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:54.680 the local steel workers union, put himself through nine years 77 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:57.080 of night school, went on to become the CEO of 78 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:01.039 Roach Brothers Supermarket. So I'm to grubbing. I watched my 79 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:03.520 dad go from the factory for to the CEO suite. 80 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:06.360 I learned hard work and determination and faith and family. 81 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:08.960 And that's why I was raised. And I had a 82 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.199 long career in business, in the private equity business for 83 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:15.240 nineteen years, traveling the country to forty states, met with 84 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:19.120 a thousand CEOs. Our firm invested in one hundred companies. 85 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:22.680 We built businesses, we created jobs. But I decided a 86 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:24.639 dozen years ago. What I really wanted to do was 87 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:27.319 serve the people of Massachusetts, and so that's what I've 88 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:29.959 done the last twelve years, full time public service to 89 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:33.439 the commonwealth. I spent two years in Lawrence, Walking working 90 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:35.920 on the turnaround of the public school district. Over the 91 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:39.240 course of twenty thirteen and fourteen, we cut the size 92 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:41.959 of the bureaucracy by forty percent. We put those dollars 93 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:44.759 in the classroom. We brought parents and teachers and community 94 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:48.000 members together, and we increased the high school graduation rate 95 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.240 from fifty two percent to seventy two percent. And then 96 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:53.399 spent eight years in state government, four years as the 97 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:57.040 Cabinet Secretary, learned how to the same approach and that role, 98 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:01.079 streamlining programs be more efficient with the taxpayer dollars, and 99 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:04.160 working with business and government and community leaders all across 100 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:07.759 the state to get things done. We built infrastructure, we 101 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:10.879 introduced new workforce skills programs, made sure we stayed number 102 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:13.680 one in the innovation economy. We reopened to our economy 103 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:17.600 and supported our small businesses. In the last couple of years, 104 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:20.120 in addition to my work for the Republican Party, which 105 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:22.279 we touched on, I spent two years of Boys and 106 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:24.839 Girls Clubs of Boston and in that work, it was 107 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:28.800 helping me in Roxbury, Dorchester, Manipan, Chelsea, and South Boston 108 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:32.000 basically to do better at school and do better in life. 109 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:36.319 So we introduced academic support programs for those workforce readiness programs. 110 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:39.399 And so what ould argument It should be that I'm 111 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:41.600 the only person in this race with this kind of 112 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:45.319 a launch track record both in business and public service. 113 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:47.800 And that's what we're going to need as a Republican 114 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:52.120 nominee to defeat Governor Healey and the campaign. We've articulated 115 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:56.279 three priority Affordability, opportunity, and better government. Happy to touch 116 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:59.600 on any one of all of those, but Governor Heally 117 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:03.839 Governor Heally's list in all those dimensions, and I've got 118 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:06.360 strategies and policies in place to help us reverse the 119 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:11.199 course there. So you know, affordability, I've been thinking about 120 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:14.480 this DAN as a day one agenda. Okay, so take 121 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:18.839 affordability day one. We need real strategies to address a 122 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:21.839 housing crist We're not producing enough housing. 123 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:22.160 Now. 124 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:24.439 We have to work with our cities and towns to 125 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:27.720 help them produce the housing they want. Governor Healey's idea 126 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.480 is to threaten and mandate and sue our cities and towns. 127 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:34.480 That's not appropriate or helpful. We need real strategies around 128 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:37.079 the cost of energy. I said for a long time now. 129 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:39.800 Governor Heally does not have an energy policy. She has 130 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.639 a climate agenda, which is making our energy a lot 131 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:45.639 more expensive. So all those charges and gimmicks on our 132 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:49.560 energy bills to facilitate a so called green energy transition, 133 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:52.040 you know that stuff has to go away and we 134 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:55.040 need a lot gert supply of energy after we have 135 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:57.720 a governor now that's that's briged about shutting down natural 136 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:02.040 gas pipelines. And taxes are too high, but this governor 137 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:05.680 continues to propose new forms of taxation, whether it's candy, 138 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:10.560 prescription drugs, reducing charitable deductions, taxes at the local level. 139 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.160 So we will have day one strategies around addressing the 140 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:16.040 cost of living around here in meaningful ways. 141 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:22.920 You mentioned housing real quickly. The MBTA Communities Act that 142 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:25.360 was signed by Charlie Baker, as I'm sure you know, 143 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:32.199 implemented by Governor Healy and threatened by Attorney of Communities 144 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:36.240 being threatened by Attorney General. Yeah, what would happen to 145 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:41.480 the MBTA Communities Act under a you know, Mike Kenney governorship. 146 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:44.240 Well, what we get back to is the same kind 147 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:48.040 of collaborative leadership we had before. I mentioned before traveling 148 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:50.519 all the ground all around the state as a Cabinet secretary, 149 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:52.480 I went to one hundred and fifty one cities in towns, 150 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:55.160 and it was all about working with them to help 151 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:57.680 them get things done they wanted to get done. It 152 00:07:57.720 --> 00:08:01.160 wasn't about mandating things. It certainly wasn't about threats and lawsuits. 153 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:04.560 And local control is really important around here. We have 154 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:07.560 three to fifty one cities and towns and by law, 155 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:10.879 by culture, by jradition, they get to decide what happens 156 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:14.279 within their city in town and so we viewed MBTA 157 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:17.040 Communities as something that could be a flexible framework or 158 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:19.319 a tool in the toolbox for our cities and towns. 159 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:21.879 And this administration has taken us a long way from that. 160 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:25.079 They've doubled down on mandates and threats and lawsuits and 161 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:28.040 made it something very inflexible. So we would get back 162 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:30.680 to the same kind of collaborative leadership we had. You know, 163 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:32.720 it was our view that we're in a housing crisis 164 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:34.919 and we need more housing. But for us, it was 165 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:37.919 all about easing the path at the local level. We 166 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.600 had a Zoni reform called Housing Choice, which lowered that 167 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:44.960 local approval threshold from two thirds supermajority down to a 168 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:48.200 simple majority, and that was consistent with our view of 169 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:50.480 the problem. Let's create an easier path to work with 170 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:53.759 cities and towns, not mandate things. And I think what's 171 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:56.000 happened now is Governor Healey and the Attorney General let's 172 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:58.679 weaponize this against our cities and towns. And that's not 173 00:08:58.720 --> 00:08:59.720 appropriate or helpful. 174 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:01.559 We have a lot to cover. We got to take 175 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:03.919 a quick break. My guess he's Mike an Eely, Republican 176 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:07.120 running for governor here in Massachusetts. We're going to talk 177 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:13.240 a little bit about the report, the reform report issued 178 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:18.639 yesterday by the state auditor about the way the Healy 179 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:23.480 administration dealt with the emergency shelter crisis from twenty twenty 180 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:27.679 one through twenty three. I'll also I have a couple 181 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:30.200 of other questions. We have full phone line, so you 182 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:32.240 can hold off on calling at the moment, folks. As 183 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:34.200 soon as the phone lines start to clear, we'll get 184 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:37.919 to callers as quickly as possible. It's more important for 185 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:40.320 you and a chance to talk to Mike Knely than 186 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:42.360 it is for me to talk to him. And we'll 187 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:47.120 take phone calls after just really one question on the 188 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:52.799 state auditor's issue, not only to audit the state legislature 189 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:55.919 where she's running into a brick wall, but also your 190 00:09:55.919 --> 00:10:01.000 reaction to her to her report. She's a Democrat. Yeah, 191 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:06.440 she's probably, in fact, the most progressive in the best 192 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:09.559 sense of the word democrat in Massachusetts. We'll take a 193 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:12.840 quick break. We'll be back with Mike Kanneely, Republican Canady 194 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:13.919 for governor, right after this. 195 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:18.440 You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w Z 196 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:20.080 Boston's News Radio. 197 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:25.600 My guest is Mike Kaneely. He's a Republican running for governor. Mike, 198 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.679 the efforts by the state auditor to audit the legislature, 199 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:34.639 it seems to me seventy two percent of the public, 200 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:38.919 lots of Republicans, lots of Democrats, and lots of independence 201 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:43.720 want that audit to occur. The Democratic leadership in the 202 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:48.600 House and Senate is basically stonewalling the state auditor. Your 203 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:51.879 reaction to her efforts there and also your reaction to 204 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:55.600 the report the seventy four page report yesterday that I 205 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:59.240 thought was a scathing rebuke of how the Healey administration 206 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:04.879 had handled the housing crisis when the immigration situation seemed 207 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:06.679 to overwhelm them here in Massachusetts. 208 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:09.399 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it sure was. Dan. Let me just 209 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:11.720 say I mentioned one of the three elements of our 210 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:14.240 platform is the government you can believe in, and you 211 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:17.000 cannot believe in a government that's not accountable and they 212 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.120 can't manage a crisis and so on. The auditor, as 213 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:22.480 you mentioned, seventy two percent of the voters said they 214 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:25.440 wanted that audit, and all of Beacon Hill, including Governor 215 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:28.120 Healey and the Attorney General, were basically saying they don't 216 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:30.559 care about what the people said, and they're pushing back 217 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:32.919 on it. And I was proud not only to vote 218 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:35.159 for that, I'm on the seventy two percent. I think 219 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:38.840 I'm personally a top five donor to that ballot question. 220 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:41.799 I donated ten thousand dollars to it. And this just 221 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:43.799 has to happen. This is not appropriate. But one of 222 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:46.720 the great lessons in public life is listened to the people. 223 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:50.759 And on the second part of your question, what came 224 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:54.799 out this week highlights the importance of audits because she 225 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.840 did a very thorough job auditing the shelter system and 226 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:02.360 Governor Heal's response the migrant crisis. And look where she uncovered. 227 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:06.799 I mean, three billion dollars we think of spending and housing, transportation, 228 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:10.960 no bid contracts to donors. There's another reports about just 229 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:15.080 horrific criminal incidents that happened in the shelter system. So 230 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:17.559 I would say, in response to both parts of your question, 231 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.720 it is in my view shameful that Beacon Hill is 232 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:23.360 pushing back on what the people have said they want. 233 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:26.840 And so it came out this week with the audit, 234 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:29.240 shows the importance of audits, and so good for the 235 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:31.840 auditor for pursuing both those and I mentioned, you know 236 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:35.120 day one things in response to both parts of your question. 237 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:37.200 Day one, I will support the auditor to get that 238 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:40.080 audit done if it hasn't been done already. In day one, 239 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:42.879 I'll declare that we're not a sanctuary state and will 240 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:45.480 have local state and county law enforcement working with the 241 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:47.840 Feds to get the criminals out of our shelters, off 242 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:49.720 our streets, and out of our state. That has to happen, 243 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:52.399 But this is a crisis that has been badly mismanaged 244 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.080 by the Heally administration. It's an example, a perfect example 245 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:00.399 of very poor bismal crisis leadership and management. Good for 246 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:02.480 the auditor for bringing that to the four. 247 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:05.320 One of the things that was extraordinary the audit was 248 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:10.919 that no big taxicab contract was given to a really 249 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:15.440 centrally located cab company out at the far end of 250 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:22.320 Cape cod Truro. They charged one hundred and forty dollars. 251 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:24.720 If I've read that report correctly, and I think I have. 252 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:29.159 For everyone who looked for a cab when the cab 253 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:32.559 rolled up to pick someone up, whether it was one 254 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:37.480 hundred yards away from Truro or or wherever, that was 255 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:41.440 one hundred and forty dollars just to get the meter started. 256 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:42.600 I know. 257 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.240 Look, I've been part of I've been part of managing 258 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:49.639 businesses and managing a cabinet secretariat and this is not 259 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:53.879 how to manage anything. And in response to some some 260 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:56.320 really bad stuff that happened in the shelters and Governor 261 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:59.559 Healer's response was things will happen, and I think that's 262 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:01.759 three where create sums up a lot of ratitude. Things 263 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:05.799 will happen, some very bad things happen both fiscally and criminally. Frankly, 264 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.600 and again, good for the auditor for shining to light 265 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:10.600 and all this stuff. This is why you need audits, 266 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:12.039 and this is day one stuff for me. 267 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:14.159 Yeah. Then we're going to go to phone calls because 268 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:16.000 we have full, full lines and I want to talk. 269 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:18.639 I love to give people an opportunity to chat with 270 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:20.600 my guests. We're going to start it off with Claire 271 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:24.480 in Concord, Massachusetts. Claire, appreciate your calling in. You are 272 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.320 on with Mike Kinneely, Republican candidate for governor. To go ahead, Claire. 273 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:34.279 Well that's a slow start, so we'll put Claire on hold. 274 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:39.440 Let's go to Elizabeth in Dorchester. Elizabeth, you've been waiting 275 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:42.360 almost as long as Claire. Go right, Go right ahead, Elizabeth. 276 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.799 Yes, good evening. Then my question for mister Kanneely is, 277 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:51.679 communities like Roxbury and Dorchester have been ignored for years. 278 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:56.120 I know people who've experienced homelessness there, and did you 279 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:59.879 get the help they needed yet? The Ballina cast Reccent 280 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:04.039 was turned into a migrant shelter. How would you uplift 281 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:05.360 communities like these? 282 00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:09.120 Well, it's a great question. I appreciate it. First of all, 283 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:11.440 I've worked in those communities. I mentioned my work at 284 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:16.039 Boys and Girls Clubs of Boston and Compass, Roxbury, Georchester, Mattapan, Chelsea, 285 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:18.240 and South Boston. I've seen some of this up close. 286 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:22.320 And your example about the rec Center becoming a migrant shelter, 287 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:24.600 and they can use the word shameful once already that 288 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:27.399 is shameful, and it does highlight the fact that these 289 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.440 communities have been ignored. One of the things I'm most 290 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:34.159 passionate about in my public service is equality of opportunity. 291 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:37.120 We've got to make sure all communities, all people of 292 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:40.279 their chance at success. And so I look at opportunity 293 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:43.639 gaps in a couple of respects. One is academically now, 294 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:47.240 only about forty percent of all of our students at 295 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:50.519 all Gray levels can read and write at Gray level 296 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.320 forty percent, But that is twenty percent for our black 297 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:57.720 and Latino students in Massachusetts, and they're being outpaced on 298 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:01.759 that same national test by the piers in Mississippi, Georgia, 299 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:05.440 and Florida. That is not appropriate. We have to get 300 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:08.399 back to closing some of these opportunity gaps and making 301 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:12.000 sure we're addressing academic achievement across all the great levels 302 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:16.399 across all people. I also point to gaps around life expectancy. 303 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:19.360 You know, the life expectancy of a back Bay resident 304 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:22.480 is ninety two years. Of a Roxbury resident it's sixty 305 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:23.240 nine years. 306 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:23.600 Now. 307 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:25.679 It doesn't take one law to get from Roxbury to 308 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:28.080 the back Bay, but that is a twenty three year 309 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:33.000 life expectancy difference. And so we need better education, better 310 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:37.399 professional opportunities for our kids in those communities, better healthcare. 311 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:39.759 And the good news is I spent time in those 312 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:43.279 communities to understand the needs and the opportunities frankly, way 313 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:45.960 better than Governor heally does. And so I appreciate the question, 314 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:49.320 but that'll be a huge priority for me as Governor Elizabeth. 315 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:51.120 Thank you very much for your question, Thank you for 316 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:53.960 your patience. I want to ask you a question that 317 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:59.120 comes to mind recently. In Hyde Park, which is part 318 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:01.879 of Boston, obviously, there was a five year old boy 319 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:04.480 who got off a school bus and within a matter 320 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.839 of seconds he was run over by that school bus. Now, 321 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:12.079 I'm sure you've heard the story. The bus allegedly, the 322 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:15.440 bus driver allegedly had been in an accident a little 323 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:18.160 earlier in the afternoon side swiping a couple of cars, 324 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:24.359 I believe in Mattapan it has now been over three 325 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:28.400 weeks and we know very little. We have not heard 326 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:30.799 much from the mayor. And now again, I know you're 327 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:33.400 not running against the mayor, but this is a democratically 328 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:40.559 controlled city, a democratic district attorney, a police commission appointed 329 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:44.440 by a democratic mayor. My theory, Mike, and I'd love 330 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:46.759 to know if you buy into this theory, is that 331 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:50.519 if there was tragically a child at the age of 332 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:55.559 five run over by a bus in Wellesley, Weston Whaland 333 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:59.319 or Winchester, I think we'd know a lot more about 334 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:04.200 the cause of the accident, the status of the bus driver, 335 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:08.440 the circumstances that led up to the accident. Then yeah, 336 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:12.400 we've heard about this little boy in Boston, and to me, 337 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:17.519 that just reeks of a city of Boston that does 338 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:20.519 not care about not only if they don't care about 339 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:23.839 the youngest in their community, how did they care about 340 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:24.920 anyone in their community. 341 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:28.680 Well, again, I agree with that, and these communities have 342 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:31.160 been north and I think it does speak to the 343 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:34.960 fact that there's a leadership opportunity for a publican governor 344 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:37.720 to speak out against these things, and yet we're talking 345 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:40.559 about the city of Boston, not the Commonwealth. But we've 346 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:43.599 got one party rule across city and state right now, 347 00:18:43.799 --> 00:18:46.880 and there's simply not enough accountability. Now'll give you another example. 348 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:51.319 The state was in a law negotiation with Boston about 349 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:54.599 Boston Public Schools and put them into a They didn't 350 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:56.680 put him in receivership, but they put him in kind 351 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:00.799 of a plan where performance is monitored, and that terminated 352 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.720 without any real increase in performance, and the healthy administration 353 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.759 just let Boston Public Schools off the hook. That is 354 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:10.319 not acceptable, and so we need to have strong Republican 355 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:12.920 leadership in the Corner office in the State House to 356 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:15.519 point things like this out and to speak up against 357 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:16.440 this one party rule. 358 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:20.079 My guest is Mike Knneely. He's a Republican candidate running 359 00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:24.119 for governor. We'll continue our conversation with him and with callers. 360 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:26.200 And by the way, I think what might have happened 361 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:30.559 with that first caller. Folks, listen to the program through 362 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:33.799 your telephone. There is a ten second delay. So if 363 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:37.079 you were sitting across the room and you're listening on 364 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:40.440 a speakerphone, we will call for you and you won't 365 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:44.519 be there, So please hold on to that telephone and listen. 366 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:48.839 Listen to us through the phone, not on your speakerphone, 367 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:53.640 particularly if it's halfway across the road. Back on Nights 368 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:55.160 Out with Mike Kenealy right after this. 369 00:19:56.200 --> 00:20:00.440 You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WA Austin's 370 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:01.119 News Radio. 371 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:04.640 All right, let's keep rolling here. My guest is Mike Kanely, 372 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:09.319 Republican running for governor of Massachusetts. There will be a primary. 373 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:13.559 He is facing a candidate that we had with us 374 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:16.079 on Tuesday night, Brian short Sleeve, And I think the 375 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:21.839 Republican Party has two very qualified, experienced candidates, one of 376 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:27.160 whom is likely to end up facing the incumbent mar Heally. Mike. 377 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:29.799 One question I asked Brian shortly the other night is 378 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:32.680 are you committed to support the winner of the primary, 379 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:34.400 whether it is you or someone else? 380 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:35.440 Oh? 381 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:36.720 Sure, absolutely. 382 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:39.359 Okay, that's a pretty straight in. So let's keep rover here. 383 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:41.279 Going to go to Henry and Quincy. Henry, you're next 384 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:43.799 on Night Side with Mike Kaneely. Go right ahead, Henry. 385 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:46.799 Hey, Dan, longtime listener, first time caller. 386 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:49.160 Hey, we gotta give you, We're got to give you 387 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:51.279 a ride of the clause is a first time call here, 388 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:52.319 if you go right ahead. 389 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:54.160 I appreciate that. 390 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:54.480 Dan. 391 00:20:54.519 --> 00:20:57.799 Well, Hey, Mike, I'm wondering what's something that you're most 392 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:00.240 proud of of the Baker administration and something do you 393 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:05.119 feel like the administration may have fallen short? Well, I 394 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:08.319 think in terms of the economy and our management of 395 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.480 the budget. You look at those two things together. During 396 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:14.240 the Bigger administration, they were two hundred thirty thousand new 397 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:17.680 jobs created in Massachusetts, and we have budget surpluses. We 398 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:20.759 actually returned three billion dollars to the tax period during 399 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:23.920 that period of time. Contrast that in the Heally administration, 400 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:27.279 we are fiftieth among the fifty states in job growth 401 00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:29.759