1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,639 Speaker 1: Welcome to political beat down. I'm Ben Mysella is joined 2 00:00:05,679 --> 00:00:10,679 by Michael Cohen. We've got a lot to discuss. Cohen, 3 00:00:10,759 --> 00:00:13,880 where do we start? I mean we can start with 4 00:00:14,199 --> 00:00:17,000 the federal judge in the Southern District of New York, 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,120 Judge Angelmeyer, ordering the Department of Justice to respond if 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,199 the judge has standing based on the protective orders in 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,800 place and based on the judge's supervisory responsibilities of a 8 00:00:30,839 --> 00:00:35,200 case to enforce compliance with the Epstein Transparency Act. This 9 00:00:35,359 --> 00:00:39,840 follows Congress Members Roe, Conna and Massey, I think brilliantly 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,079 sending a letter to the judge flagging these issues. 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: And the judge. 12 00:00:44,799 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Reviewed that letter and said, I want to understand what 13 00:00:48,439 --> 00:00:52,920 the DOJ's view is. Do they have standing? Do any 14 00:00:53,079 --> 00:00:56,320 victims want to come forward and say they want this? 15 00:00:56,439 --> 00:00:56,719 Speaker 2: Also? 16 00:00:56,759 --> 00:00:58,759 Speaker 1: I think it was a hint to the victims and 17 00:00:58,799 --> 00:01:02,479 the survivors who may have standing as well, maybe you 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,879 should file something. And then it asks the DOJ should 19 00:01:06,879 --> 00:01:10,480 I appoint an independent monitor here? And I think the 20 00:01:10,519 --> 00:01:13,920 strategy by those members was executed perfectly. 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,719 Speaker 3: It's a strategy. They're finally doing something. But Ben, can 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,560 we just break something down for a quick second? Break 23 00:01:21,599 --> 00:01:24,879 it down, Break it down. Let's break it down. So 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:32,280 the House voted on this Epstein Transparency Act. Yes, it 25 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:37,599 was immediately given to the Senate unanimous consent everybody. And 26 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,719 then it goes up to the President of the United States, 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,640 to the big Man himself, who goes ahead and puts 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:51,840 his John Hancock on the on the Transparency Act and 29 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,439 ships it off to the DOJ. Can somebody please explain 30 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,799 to me why that file is not in the hands 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,760 of Congress, why it's not why it has not been released, 32 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,159 Why do you actually even have to be going to 33 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,400 court right now? And that's the part that people are 34 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,360 not talking about. We talk about it here on the network. 35 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,680 I my just touched network, because that's what we do. 36 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:19,080 We break shit down, all right. We talk about the 37 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,199 things as well that others choose not to talk about 38 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,800 because it's not, let's say, politically expedient. They don't want 39 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,120 to piss off the administration and then have their credentials revoked. Well, 40 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:34,199 I lost my credentials a long time ago. So let's 41 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,240 break this shit down. Ben. At the end of the day, nobody, 42 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,240 and I mean nobody should have to be asking the 43 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:46,639 courts right now, not Rokanda, not anybody, not Republican, not Democrat, 44 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:49,719 not independent as to the release of a file that 45 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,479 was signed off by Congress Article one and also signed 46 00:02:53,479 --> 00:02:59,280 off by the executive branch Article two. So who's holding 47 00:02:59,319 --> 00:03:03,439 this thing up and why are there not impeachment then actions? Well, 48 00:03:03,439 --> 00:03:07,680 why are they not calling Pambondi in with the files. 49 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:11,879 We want you to show up right now to Congress 50 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,080 with the files for a hearing. 51 00:03:16,719 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because there's a downstream impact when 52 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,599 the rule of law doesn't really exist anymore. And I'll 53 00:03:26,599 --> 00:03:30,879 give you a totally unrelated example, but I started my 54 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,159 semester teaching law school at USC. I'm a professor there 55 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:39,240 and I teach sports law there. One of the issues 56 00:03:39,879 --> 00:03:43,039 is that in this new world of name, image and 57 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:49,039 likeness payments where players get to basically switch teams every 58 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:55,479 single year, players are signing contracts with team X, but 59 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,439 then they just decide, hey, I'm a nineteen year old 60 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,280 I actually want to play for team Y. And then 61 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:07,360 there's no mechanism to sue or hold people accountable who 62 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:12,960 sign contracts because there's no legal structures or guard rails 63 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:18,439 around the idea of a contract holding, meaning there was 64 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:22,120 a player who, for example, signed with Washington and then 65 00:04:22,399 --> 00:04:25,680 they decided, actually, I may want to play with LSU. 66 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,800 And then people are like, well, how do you enforce 67 00:04:27,879 --> 00:04:32,319 this thing? And that's just an example of at a 68 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,399 level that does not impact all of us, or it 69 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,639 doesn't involve child sex trafficking. But what happens the way 70 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:45,920 Donald Trump's words are empty when the law itself is 71 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:52,519 empty is meaningless. Where the Department of Justice is actually 72 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:58,639 injustice and they are a racketeering enterprise covering up a 73 00:04:58,759 --> 00:05:03,879 child sex traffic ring. You know, in the typical course, right, 74 00:05:04,199 --> 00:05:12,279 Judge Angelmeyer presides over a case involving DOJ Glane Maxwell Glane, 75 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,600 convicted child sex trafficker who should be rotting away in 76 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,839 Tallahassees Prison, but was moved to a minimum security facility 77 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,000 by the Trump regime because they perceived her helping them 78 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,439 out and continuing to help them out in working with 79 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:35,120 the DOJ. So normally DOJ is supposed to be and 80 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,959 let's be clear, the DOJ is not this. They're always 81 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,240 doing the right thing and they're great. But in theory, 82 00:05:43,399 --> 00:05:46,839 let's just leave it like this. It should be adversarial, right, 83 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,319 the DOJ and Gilane shouldn't be on the same team 84 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,040 in trying not to release something. They should be adversarial. 85 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,759 So there's nobody in the action who's actually fight for 86 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,399 the victims or the survivors. And what happens when there's 87 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:10,480 a federal law? Federal law, the Epstein Transparency Act isn't 88 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,279 a state law, so you can't go to California state 89 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,560 court or New York state court to enforce that law 90 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,839 because it's federal, so you have to go to a 91 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:27,560 federal court. Well, what happens when the DOJ is the 92 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,839 one who basically says, well, where the DOJ it calls 93 00:06:31,879 --> 00:06:35,560 for us to be the ones to release it, and 94 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,920 we're doing whatever we can do. We're doing our best job. 95 00:06:38,959 --> 00:06:41,319 And then Cohen when they're not, they're covering it up. 96 00:06:41,639 --> 00:06:45,439 What happens when your branches of government in the United 97 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,040 States now function like the Duma in Russia. And so 98 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,480 today James Comer and by the way, the reason we're 99 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,240 starting off talking about the Epstein files is because this 100 00:06:57,399 --> 00:06:59,319 is what the Trump regime does not want us to 101 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:03,600 talk about first. Okay, so I'm intentionally covering something first 102 00:07:03,879 --> 00:07:06,120 that they want to just be taking off the news 103 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,800 in general, and that you're not seeing really covered in 104 00:07:08,879 --> 00:07:10,600 corporate news at all anymore. 105 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:11,399 Speaker 3: No, no, not. 106 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:16,839 Speaker 1: But James Comer is asked about, well, what do you 107 00:07:16,879 --> 00:07:21,199 think about the DOJ and their production, and Comer's like, 108 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,879 I think they're doing a great job. I think they 109 00:07:24,879 --> 00:07:28,800 are complying. Now, this is the guy who runs the 110 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:33,560 House oversight, right, that's the main body that is to 111 00:07:33,639 --> 00:07:39,720 your point, Cohen, who why is in Congress bringing this 112 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,920 guy in for impeachment? Why aren't they doing Play the 113 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:46,079 clip of James Comer from earlier in the day saying 114 00:07:46,079 --> 00:07:49,600 that he thinks the DOJ has done an incredible job. 115 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Let's play that clip. 116 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: We Suphoena Pambondi for the documents. She started producing the documents. 117 00:07:54,879 --> 00:08:00,879 Then Congress voted for the discharge petition to send another message, 118 00:08:00,959 --> 00:08:05,959 and we all voted for that. Is she they are 119 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,439 sending dock with. They sent a big batch. The Democrats 120 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,560 were unhappy. They said they weren't enough for action. So 121 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,360 now the DOJ's going through trying to make sure they 122 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:21,000 redact everything. So as from my standpoint, the Department Justice 123 00:08:21,079 --> 00:08:23,959 is cooperating, they are turning over documents. We would all 124 00:08:24,079 --> 00:08:26,680 like for them to turn documents over quicker. But at 125 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,720 the end of the day, they are complying. President Trump 126 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,240 is answering your questions about Epstein. He's answered them over 127 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:35,559 and over and over again. Who we haven't heard from 128 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,279 is Bill Clinton, And I stated why the amount of 129 00:08:38,279 --> 00:08:41,240 time that that Epstein spent with Clinton Bonley was president 130 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,279 and post presidency. So I don't think it's it's out 131 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,399 of line for former President Clinton to come in for 132 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,039 a bipartisan subpoena and sit down and answer questions. So 133 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:54,639 thank you all. 134 00:08:55,879 --> 00:08:57,919 Speaker 3: Okay, First of all, there's so many laws in that 135 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,039 statement you roll up from it. Stay with me on 136 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,919 this one, bed, I mean you could actually throw up 137 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:06,519 from the lies coming out of the Skuy's map. First 138 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,159 and foremost, nobody has to at this point in time 139 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,440 ask for the release or beg Pam Bondi for the release. 140 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:20,840 There is a law, the Epstein File Transparency Act, that 141 00:09:20,879 --> 00:09:24,120 has been signed by your fearless leader. By the way, 142 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,480 I agree with Beverly Fillmore, one of our subscribers here. Yeah, 143 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:32,200 comer is dumber than Louis Gohmert. There's no doubt about 144 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,120 that one. Because the fact that he's sitting there and 145 00:09:35,159 --> 00:09:38,000 trying to now push this off. By the way, By 146 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,399 the way, if you're going to bring Bill Clinton, and 147 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,320 I'm fine, bring Bill Clinton in, I don't care. Meanwhile, 148 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,240 he turned around, he said that it is not a 149 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,799 legitimate legislative reason within which to bring him in. Okay, 150 00:09:49,799 --> 00:09:53,159 they're gonna now litigate that thing and distract us from 151 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,759 again having the files released. But if you're going to 152 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,919 release the files, if you're going to ask Bill Clinton 153 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,600 to come in, how about release the files so that 154 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,159 you can ask him cogin questions about each and every 155 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,519 aspect of it, not the ones that you want to end. 156 00:10:08,519 --> 00:10:11,759 I want to end before turning it back over to 157 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:17,720 Ben here. You all should know by now what percentage 158 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,600 of the Epstein files have been released so far to date, 159 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:28,320 And the answer is approximately one percent. One percent of 160 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,679 the files, despite the fact that there is a ruling 161 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:37,600 that it was supposed to have been turned over almost 162 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,039 thirty days ago on the nineteenth of December. Somebody needs 163 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,759 to explain that one percent of the file. And this 164 00:10:45,919 --> 00:10:48,679 idiot says, oh, I think that they're doing I think 165 00:10:48,799 --> 00:10:52,240 Pam Bondy's doing a great job. If she turned over nothing, 166 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,799 he would say the same thing. 167 00:10:55,639 --> 00:10:59,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the fact that they and it was so 168 00:10:59,399 --> 00:11:02,919 obvious and I covered it back then, you know, which 169 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,360 is they were going to make this about Bill Clinton, 170 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,480 you know, and say ah, and by the way, Bill 171 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:13,080 Clinton put out a statement saying release all of the files, 172 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,159 and then I'm okay with releasing all of the files. 173 00:11:15,639 --> 00:11:19,919 Now the broader issue with a Bill Clinton and this 174 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:25,120 is what the MAGA Republicans know that subpoenaing a former 175 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:31,240 president in general always carries with it a process that's 176 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:35,360 going to be slower and is going to take time 177 00:11:36,159 --> 00:11:41,600 and will not happen immediately. And so I owe and 178 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:44,759 by the way, in my own view, Clinton is on 179 00:11:44,799 --> 00:11:49,919 the list, then expose him. No one's out here defending 180 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,480 anything Bill Clinton with Epstein, like at all, who's ever 181 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,200 involved needs to be exposed and called out. But again 182 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:04,080 they throw up these red herrings like we're stupid, and 183 00:12:04,159 --> 00:12:08,279 I think fundamentally, especially if you look at what Trump's 184 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:15,000 speech in Detroit today, it's all about treating people like 185 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,159 they're stupid and like they're worthless, because how else can 186 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,000 you say the things that you're saying, how else can 187 00:12:23,039 --> 00:12:28,600 you say that inflation has been totally defeated and things 188 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:34,480 are great, and everybody's living the most amazing time ever. 189 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: Prices it down oil. 190 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:37,799 Speaker 2: He is saying. 191 00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: Down here, he is saying that drug prices will be 192 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,559 coming down one thousand percent. Here play this clip of 193 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:47,840 him saying, drug prices coming down thousand percent. 194 00:12:48,159 --> 00:12:52,639 Speaker 5: In executive order, we're doing most favored nation drug prices. 195 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,240 When we would have drug prices stay the same, everybody 196 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,080 thought it was great. They're going to be coming down 197 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,960 thousands of percents. 198 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: Standing, Okay, let me do one, let me do one more, 199 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:03,879 and then I go back to you. 200 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: Guys at Minas were so great when you reposted my 201 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,360 sub stack. When I talked about and I explained fifth 202 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,519 grade mathematics. I hope that everybody here with us understands. 203 00:13:16,759 --> 00:13:19,879 In fifth grade we all learned a very important principle. 204 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:26,360 One hundred percent of the same number of any number 205 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,000 off will bring you to the number zero. So you 206 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,279 can't have greater than one hundred percent in terms of savings. 207 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,279 So where are the thousands coming from? Here? 208 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: He says, we've totally defeated inflation. 209 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,919 Speaker 3: Let's see, mazl Mosel. 210 00:13:44,879 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 6: So lucky to be here under our administration. Growth is 211 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:55,639 exploding productivity, assuring investment is booming, incomes arising, inflation is defeated, 212 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,679 America is respected again like never before. And other than that, 213 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:01,679 we're not doing that well. 214 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: And then also on the bottom of the screen, state 215 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:16,519 regime media is also saying ice agitators, like confronting them, 216 00:14:16,919 --> 00:14:23,840 ice agitators, ice agitators. And this is part of That's 217 00:14:23,879 --> 00:14:27,799 why I call them state regime state regime media, because 218 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,240 now it's part of a propaganda campaign to attack peaceful 219 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:37,799 protesters in Minneapolis and Saint Paul. By the way, Minneapolis, 220 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,320 Saint Paul, and Minnesota collectively filed a lawsuit against the 221 00:14:42,399 --> 00:14:45,919 Trump regime, saying that the tenth Amendment of the Constitution 222 00:14:46,039 --> 00:14:49,639 has now been violated because Ice and Border Patrol they're 223 00:14:49,679 --> 00:14:53,840 not doing law enforcement, they've done an invasion. 224 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:53,919 Speaker 2: Of the city. 225 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,759 Speaker 1: What Trump realized is why do I need to even 226 00:14:57,919 --> 00:15:02,840 invoke the National Guard? If I have my own paramilitary forces, 227 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,440 I'll just dress up these unqualified people in military gear 228 00:15:08,039 --> 00:15:12,799 and I'll have them terrorize peaceful communities. And we've been 229 00:15:12,919 --> 00:15:15,759 documenting it. We did this incredible partnership con and I'm 230 00:15:15,799 --> 00:15:18,399 sure you've seen it with the group called Status Coup 231 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:23,559 and they've got people on the ground, and they show that. 232 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,960 You'll have these ice Gestapo agents look at peaceful protesters 233 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:34,759 who are not blocking the streets. They'll take chemical agents, gas, pepper, spray, 234 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,639 flash bangs and just throw them at the people and 235 00:15:38,679 --> 00:15:42,200 then provoke the people in the streets. And then when 236 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,000 the people are provoked, then they got state regime, Fox 237 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:50,120 media to be like boom, you see, look at the 238 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:54,320 war zone that's out there. We have an invasion. That's 239 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,559 what they called it in the lawsuit too, an invasion 240 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,279 of American cities. But this is what Donald Trump meant 241 00:16:02,279 --> 00:16:05,240 when he said we have to go after the enemy 242 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:05,960 from within. 243 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,799 Speaker 3: When you listen to him how he describes who the 244 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:20,240 enemy is. They're American citizens. They are they are protected 245 00:16:20,919 --> 00:16:26,519 under the First Amendment. They're peacefully protesting. And what does 246 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:30,000 Trump turn around and say, they're sitting there, They're yelling 247 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:36,240 at them, they're blowing whistles and horns, they're mocking them, 248 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:44,919 they're being disrespectful. This to him is tantamount to traitors 249 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,799 to you know what, what are some of the some 250 00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:52,480 of the the adjectives that he's used. Uh, you know 251 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:57,159 that they're agitators and He's got a whole litany of 252 00:16:57,879 --> 00:17:02,840 descriptive words for these individuals, but the one descriptive word 253 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:09,279 that he does not use, right is upstanding. What they're 254 00:17:09,279 --> 00:17:13,759 not doing that all they're doing is invoking their First 255 00:17:13,799 --> 00:17:19,279 Amendment constitutional right. Something that I understand better than most, 256 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,599 something I warned so many people about. Is to anybody 257 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:26,720 who's ever listened to me, going back to when I 258 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:30,640 was ultimately released on that habeas petition from thank god, 259 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:33,920 Judge Alvin K. Hellestine, a name that you all have 260 00:17:34,039 --> 00:17:37,240 recently heard. He is the judge on the Maduro case. 261 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,359 Judge Hellestine turned around and stated that the government violated 262 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,039 my first Amendment, that it was retaliation because I refused 263 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:49,200 to waive my first Amendment constitutional right. That's what this 264 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,079 regime is doing. They and I said, I said to everybody, 265 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,640 if they can do this to me, just sit back 266 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,079 and wait and watch what they're gonna do to you, 267 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,640 and lo and behold, that's what they're doing. 268 00:18:01,759 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: You know. 269 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,079 Speaker 1: I just remember the Tea Party protests from they had 270 00:18:05,079 --> 00:18:09,319 those flags, don't tread on me, don't tread on me. 271 00:18:09,599 --> 00:18:12,920 And what they were talking about was like Michelle Obama 272 00:18:13,519 --> 00:18:19,160 recommending healthier lunches, which has now basically been plagiarized by 273 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,960 RFK Junior, but in a warped and dystopian and sick 274 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,799 way where you know, but the healthy lunches that was 275 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,480 treading on you, and the government's going to tell you 276 00:18:29,519 --> 00:18:33,160 what to eat with lower sodium consumption as a recommendation. 277 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,799 And you literally have people in military outfits by the 278 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:45,279 thousands with weapons of war invading blue states and blue cities. 279 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:48,559 Frankly the whole country, but focused on blue states and 280 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:53,640 blue cities. If you were to say that Biden did 281 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,119 that or Obama did that, we would be in a 282 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,880 full fledged civil war. 283 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:04,799 Speaker 3: Ben, could you imagine if Biden was speaking before an 284 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:10,200 economic committee as Trump was today and he invoked the 285 00:19:10,319 --> 00:19:13,359 year twenty twenty four, and to those of you that 286 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,759 may or may not be aware we're in twenty twenty six, 287 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,880 twenty twenty four has no play in this at all. 288 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,519 If this was Joe Biden who made that, immediately Republicans, 289 00:19:24,559 --> 00:19:28,079 including our president, would be turning around and calling for 290 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,240 Joe Biden to be put in a straight jacket, to 291 00:19:31,319 --> 00:19:34,400 be taken off to a facility to have an MRI 292 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,480 done of his brain, and basically demanding that there'd be 293 00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:43,599 on television a cognitive test in order to demonstrate that 294 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,680 he knows what year it is or who he actually is, 295 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,839 because not only did he start right off Joe Biden 296 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,720 again during this economy, but he's the one who made 297 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,880 that same exactness. He didn't even realize that he made 298 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,079 the mistake. You know what, just play that clip so 299 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,440 people see what I'm talking about. 300 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 5: Over the past twelve months, almost every promise I made 301 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,200 to you right here in twenty twenty four has been kept. 302 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,680 I've kept all my promises and much more. I mean, 303 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,440 I've given you much more than I gave you promises, 304 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,519 and I produced much more than I said I was 305 00:20:19,559 --> 00:20:20,119 going to produce. 306 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:25,039 Speaker 3: I gave you. You know what would be you know 307 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:29,039 what would be really great? If pay per view would 308 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:32,640 do a Trump I would pay for it. Could you 309 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,480 imagine a pay per view event Trump wants every everything 310 00:20:35,519 --> 00:20:39,519 has to have some sort of a financial transactions associated 311 00:20:39,519 --> 00:20:44,119 to it. How about if pay per view does an event, 312 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,039 We'll call it the Donald Trump cognitive exam. And let's 313 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:51,000 just all see what a cognitive exam that's being given 314 00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:52,920 to the president it is. I think we should at 315 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,319 least have the right to see it. 316 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeremy, let's play that first clip that I told 317 00:20:58,039 --> 00:21:00,920 you about, because to me, this is what we'll probably 318 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,519 be watching on pay per view. 319 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,319 Speaker 2: Let's play. Let's play. 320 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: Let's you know the clip I'm talking about, Jeremy, Let's 321 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,559 play that one. 322 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 5: Ah Ah, ladies and gentlemen. 323 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, you got to admit it is funny 324 00:21:23,319 --> 00:21:25,880 if it was coming from anyone other than the President 325 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:31,400 of the United States describing his predecessor. I mean, that's 326 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:37,200 just I don't know, rude, it's moronic. I mean, what 327 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,000 the hell you know? 328 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: And again the theme about words should matter, though, from 329 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,480 the President of the United States, right, words should matter. 330 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,880 So Donald Trump says in a social media post, He's 331 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:04,319 imposing twenty five percent tariff increases on any country that 332 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:10,960 does business with Iran. So what does that mean? Does 333 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,880 that mean twenty five percent on China they get oil 334 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,799 from Iran? Does that mean twenty five percent tariffs on 335 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:23,839 the United Arab Emirates, who Trump does personal business deals 336 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,160 with and has given our semiconductor technology to. And so 337 00:22:28,279 --> 00:22:32,839 he says, twenty five percent tariffs. But the words don't 338 00:22:32,839 --> 00:22:37,000 have any meaning. And so, and this is an issue 339 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,559 I discussed with congress Member Brendan Boyle. And you know, 340 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,519 like when Donald Trump has this, DOJ launch a criminal 341 00:22:45,559 --> 00:22:50,039 investigation into Jerome Powell, the chairman of the Federal Reserve. 342 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:57,400 The markets don't believe him. The markets view the action 343 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:02,440 as a troll and they shouldn't view it as that. 344 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:08,519 But the words carry with it no meaning that if 345 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:11,319 you speak to people, if you speak to bankers or 346 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,319 people in corporated mar eeah. Trump just says these things 347 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,720 and ultimately they resolved themselves. Yeah, he said twenty five 348 00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:23,880 percent tariffs, which technically would mean twenty five percent more 349 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:30,640 tariffs against China, which would mean massive disruption of businesses. 350 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:35,440 But it's it's not really to talk about Iran. Donald 351 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,680 Trump said on January second, if the regime there killed protesters, 352 00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:44,960 he goes, we would come in guns a blazing. He posted, 353 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,920 Remember he posted that. 354 00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 3: Well, remember he posted that. But there was a great 355 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,240 question that was asked of him today too finish up. 356 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: And then January second, he posted that. And now the 357 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,480 death toll on the low end is probably in the thousands. 358 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,240 Some suggest there may be as many as twenty thousand 359 00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:12,039 protesters who were killed there's an Internet blackout there. We're 360 00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:17,240 now January thirteenth. The regime there is not listening to 361 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,279 Donald Trump. What Trump wants is Raisa Paulavi to show 362 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,559 up at Marra a Lago and kiss his ring after 363 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,720 also undercutting pa Lavi the same way he undercut Machado 364 00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:30,559 and doing all of that. But then Polavi goes on 365 00:24:31,319 --> 00:24:34,279 state regime media Fox and says, Donald, you so much 366 00:24:34,319 --> 00:24:40,000 stronger than Biden, which, by the way, then undercuts Pavlavi's 367 00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:45,519 ability to interact in a geopolitical world when you've submitted 368 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:51,440 like that the same way Machado has screwed herself royally 369 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,480 by selling out the way she did, and she's going 370 00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:57,640 to show up on Thursday. Trump's not going to care. 371 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,799 He's gonna take your Nobel prize, which he's not allowed 372 00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:03,400 to take by law, but he's gonna take the plaque 373 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,519 or whatever the medal, and then he's still gonna have 374 00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:11,119 dels run it. Delsi Rodriguez in Venezuela is still gonna 375 00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:16,519 is still gonna run it. And Trump doesn't want democracy 376 00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:20,160 in Iran. He doesn't want democracy in Venezuela. He doesn't 377 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:25,119 want democracy in the United States. He wants and he 378 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,119 doesn't want democracy in Ukraine. He wants a Trump puppet 379 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:34,880 authoritarian who will give not even America the resources, but 380 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,359 Trump and his buds the resources to enrich themselves. 381 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,839 Speaker 3: That's what this is all about. The whole thing also 382 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,400 with Polavi is so stupid. You know. Look, yes, the 383 00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:48,240 shaw was a very a lot, uh you know, the 384 00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:52,759 sha v Run was a wonderful, wonderful leader for the people. 385 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,960 People really did truly you know, admire and care for him. 386 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,759 But the thought or the no of bringing Raiza Palavi 387 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,799 now happen to know the family quite well, including Raza. 388 00:26:06,039 --> 00:26:08,559 The chance that he's ever going back to become the 389 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,519 leader of a country that he has not been in 390 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,559 for forty seven years. He has not been in that country, 391 00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:22,240 doesn't understand the you know, it doesn't understand the country anymore. 392 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,279 He's been out in the United States, you know, amongst 393 00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:30,359 the Iranians, specifically the Persian communities talking about it. They're 394 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,960 very good to him and so on. They talk about what, 395 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,599 you know, the old days of Iran, and it's it's 396 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,599 wonderful for the nostalgia of those people that went through 397 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,599 it and understand it. But there's new generations, there are 398 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,200 new issues and so on. The whole thing is just 399 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,640 a waste of time, pure and simple. It's just a 400 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,319 waste of time. The thing that I really appreciated is 401 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,359 there was a journalist and I don't know who she was, 402 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,720 but she came straight out and she said to Trump, 403 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,559 you said that if protesters got killed, that you would 404 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:06,920 not stand for it, that you were going to do 405 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,400 something about it, that you were going to resolve this. 406 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,799 Tell us how do you plan on doing it? And 407 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:21,119 his response, Ben was classic Cohen. 408 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: Let's take our first quick break of the show. We'll 409 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,680 get there. A reminder, make sure you subscribe to the 410 00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:30,359 Maya Kulpa audio podcast. Wherever you get your audio podcasts. 411 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:36,359 Subscribe to the Michael Cohen Show on YouTube. 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Practically mean, how ridiculous? 478 00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:48,319 Speaker 1: Is that, you know, what people aren't talking about though 479 00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:51,839 a lot now, which definitely needs more attention. And this 480 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,599 is by design as well, of course the Epstein files. 481 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,240 That's why we cover that at first. But I guess 482 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,519 this is a week were no longer supposed to talk 483 00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:02,359 about Ukraine. 484 00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:04,519 Speaker 2: I'm saying that sarcastically. Of course. 485 00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: We went from what were they what were they trying 486 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,960 to sell us? Three weeks ago, and then three weeks 487 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,319 before that, and then three weeks before that, we were 488 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,960 so close, so close to a deal. There was such 489 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,279 great progress being made when you actually looked at what 490 00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:25,359 was happening in Leviv and other places. As Putin was 491 00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:30,759 escalating things since the invasion of Venezuela, but Trump was saying, 492 00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:35,680 We're so close, We've got this, and isn't. 493 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:41,039 Speaker 3: Ultimately you're doing great, and Jared and Marco and Marco, 494 00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:44,880 you're doing great, doing great, We're almost there, almost. 495 00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:50,079 Speaker 1: There, right, Yeah, as as as our producers said, we 496 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:53,079 were so close, and then Putin made up that Zelensky 497 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,079 was going to attack the home and then and just 498 00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:59,759 made up, you know, made up that lie, you know, 499 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:06,839 so you know what one interesting thing going to Trump's words, 500 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,400 don't you know, are meaningless. You know, it's interesting because 501 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,880 Trump uses this term, you know, the deep state or all, like, 502 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,799 we have almost two governments running right now. Right you 503 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,960 have kind of Trump in his inner circle, Stephen Miller 504 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:27,480 and Bondi and Gnome, who are doing the most horrific 505 00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:32,880 things and inflicting horrendous amounts of pain. And then you 506 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,400 have what Trump says and what these people are all saying. 507 00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:40,880 And then you have like this top commander at NATO 508 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,599 who I saw gives speech in Sweden the other day 509 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,400 two days ago, and the way he talked about the 510 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:54,880 Arctic and NATO and joint training exercises is like completely 511 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,400 ignoring everything that Donald Trump says. So he shows up 512 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,440 there and he talks about NATO ever been stronger, and 513 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,960 you would think you were in the twilight zone. And 514 00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:06,799 he'll be asked questions, well Trump said this, Well Trump 515 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:10,280 said that, and he'll basically be like, well, you know, 516 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,199 I can't get into the politics of things, but I 517 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,480 can tell you here's what we're doing at NATO, and 518 00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:19,400 here's and and here, and here's what's actually going on here, 519 00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,679 Here's here's the way things are running. But Cohen, I 520 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,599 just think that that's such a dangerous situation where there's 521 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,440 no real chain of authority. You have Trump who just 522 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,239 spews this nonsense every day, gets up there, lies about everything. 523 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,559 Then you have other people who then say things that 524 00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:48,039 try to make it feel normal, but it's not called washing, 525 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,760 sain washing. And then you have a media that's built 526 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,760 around kind of plucking those clips while we have an 527 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,719 invasion in Minneapolis, Like, let me just show you our 528 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,840 partners at Status Coop. They got they get this footage 529 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,519 all the time. I'll just show you the footage from 530 00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:07,599 moments ago. I think we've got this footage, Jeremy, where 531 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:11,440 you'll see peaceful protesters who have a First Amendment right 532 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,440 to protest loudly, right, and if they want to, they 533 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,800 could say things that make Ice uncomfortable. 534 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:19,119 Speaker 4: Right. 535 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: They can say, f u Ice, you're terrorists, you're harming 536 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,639 our communities. Right, So let me show you what. I'll 537 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,000 show you fifteen seconds because people will get the point 538 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,199 of this clip. But for Trump, as he said on 539 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,840 Air Force One, and as Christy Nomes says, you can't 540 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:43,360 be they say disrespectful to Ice, because if you're disrespectful, 541 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,800 they have the right to take your life to kill 542 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,039 you Just watch what happened moments. 543 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 2: Ago here playing this clip. 544 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,119 Speaker 3: It's amazing. Could you imagine? I wonder what the conversation 545 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,360 in the vehicle between the driver and the idiot that 546 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,239 dropped it out must have been, Yeah, what should I 547 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,880 do to these assholes? What should I do to them? 548 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,679 And boom? All right, there you go, fuckers, right, you 549 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,199 blow whistles at us, you turn around, you tell us 550 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,079 to leave. We're not going anywhere, so have a little 551 00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:36,480 tear gas while you're at it. I mean, this is 552 00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,599 the problem. This is serious, the problem. This is what 553 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,000 I warned the country about going back when I was 554 00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:50,079 unconstitutionally remanded. You think you have a First Amendment constitutional right. 555 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,199 You think that this book that the constitution right. You 556 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,920 think this document turns around and gives you the right 557 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,199 to stand on a public street and to yell well 558 00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:04,800 at ice agents who are there literally literally outnumbering the 559 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,239 police force. You know, God bless this kid. Jacob Frey, 560 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,079 the mayor who turned around and said, I want people 561 00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:15,400 to understand numbers. You know, there's the old adage numbers 562 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,679 don't lie, people do. According to what he said, all 563 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:26,760 of Minneapolis has the police department. There has six hundred 564 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:32,639 approximately police officers. Trump has sent in more than two thousand, 565 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,360 and there are more on their way. That's not that's 566 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,079 not you know, that's not enforcement. That's a that's an invasion, 567 00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:43,840 is really what it is, and that's what he wants. 568 00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:47,119 It's to be able to just like come in and 569 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,719 swallow everything whole. You're not going to do what I say, 570 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,480 all right, his little fucking tea guests for you. Oh, 571 00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:55,679 by the way, that's not good enough. He What we'll 572 00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:57,840 do is maybe we'll shoot out the window next time, 573 00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:01,960 some some tasers, right or something or something else. How 574 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,440 about if we just stand on the street and as 575 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,280 you turn around screaming a US, we just shoot you 576 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,719 in the face with bare spray or worse like this 577 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,880 idiot John Ross, I'll shoot you in the fucking face 578 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,679 with my nine millimeter. 579 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 2: Horrific. I mean horrific. I mean you. 580 00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:25,119 Speaker 3: Great reporting by them, seriously, three great reporting. 581 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,519 Speaker 1: You know, it's been a big priority for me in 582 00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:31,440 twenty twenty six as it was in twenty twenty five, though, 583 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,360 to identify groups that are doing incredible work. And I 584 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,800 think it's a responsibility we have here at the Midas Touchdowork. 585 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,519 Given the size of our platform, I think it's a 586 00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:49,840 fiduciary obligation to uplift and to help others do what 587 00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:54,679 we've done and not just talk the talk about helping 588 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,480 independent media, but to truly grow other platforms. And so 589 00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,159 the team over there, I mean John Faren is the 590 00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:02,800 camera guy. 591 00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 2: They've got j T. 592 00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:09,079 Speaker 1: Sstowski, this guy Jordan Shariot who leads it. They've been 593 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:14,280 doing this work since for the past six years, seven years, 594 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,679 and you know, to see their subscriber growth in the 595 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,760 past two weeks and to uplift them, that's got to 596 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,639 be a major priority there that we all have. 597 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ben, I wanted to ask you could we replay 598 00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:33,599 that video by by by your group one last time 599 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,320 because I was just thinking about something. So imagine if 600 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,639 we can. So you see right here when he goes ahead, Yeah, 601 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,239 a lot of people that are around, So they dropped 602 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,039 the canister out. Imagine if that guy that was standing 603 00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:49,840 right there picked it up and threw it back into 604 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,400 the car, back into the open window and say, sir, 605 00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:57,360 I think you sir, sir, I think you drop this 606 00:39:57,679 --> 00:40:00,159 and then you put it back into the car, right 607 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,880 you think there would be some legal you know, some 608 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,119 legal issues there. 609 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,519 Speaker 1: I think there would be legal issues. I would certainly say. 610 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 3: They dropped it out the window, they were loitering, So 611 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,519 I decided I was going to give it back to you. 612 00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:15,119 Maybe you wanted it. Don't you think that would be something. 613 00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: I would say, don't do that and don't listen to that. 614 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,800 That's not legal, that's not legal advice, and I don't 615 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,360 endorse that, and I don't support that. And be very 616 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,519 careful out there and make sure you're a peaceful protester 617 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,679 and you are alway, and never give this regime an 618 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,480 excuse ever to escalate, because you know that that's what 619 00:40:41,079 --> 00:40:42,960 you know, that's what that's what they wanted. 620 00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 3: That's what they wanted, you know, with Minnesotans, and we 621 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,559 don't like you know, we don't like you. 622 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 1: I think that I would don't know, but it would 623 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:02,800 be funny shorthands or but but if you analyze the 624 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:13,199 incidents involving the use of noxious gases in situations like 625 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,159 I think in the Federal court in Chicago which issued 626 00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:19,519 the injunction against Ice and Border Patrol from using these 627 00:41:19,559 --> 00:41:22,039 chemical agents, they did an analysis and I think it 628 00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:27,719 was over the thirty or forty years of Chicago police enforcement, 629 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,000 there was never a single use of the gas like ever, 630 00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:35,760 like they don't use that in any of their law 631 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,320 enforcement in Chicago Police along with their SWAT team. You 632 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,119 can imagine the situations that they've had to deal with 633 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,039 over the past thirty to forty years that they would 634 00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:56,559 never resort once, not once, to spraying gas and chemical 635 00:41:56,639 --> 00:42:03,199 agents on peaceful protesters or dem instraders or in any context. 636 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,360 And this is something utilized by these Ice and Border 637 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,800 Patrol agents every day. I'm not sure if you saw 638 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,519 this story by Slate, and my one guidance to Slate 639 00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:15,960 you don't have to listen to me, but there I 640 00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:18,400 understand you want memberships and you want to grow it. 641 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,800 There are some stories that are so profoundly important that 642 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,840 you do that you should make sure they're free, like 643 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:29,199 this one where they had a reporter who goes undercover 644 00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:35,639 as an ICE agent and the reporter applied without any qualifications, 645 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:41,679 didn't submit the domestic violence affidavit, didn't submit the drug testing, 646 00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:48,239 didn't submit any of the stuff, and they got the job. 647 00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:51,039 And they were a reporter and they used their real name, 648 00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:53,199 they didn't use a fake name, So all they had 649 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,679 to do was say, wait a minute, you're a reporter 650 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,400 from Slate. You didn't submit the documentation. The way our 651 00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:03,320 editor and chief Ron Philipkowski described it is that that 652 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:08,239 Ice and Border Patrol has become a welfare program to 653 00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:13,039 maga chuds in these way described it, who are unqualified 654 00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:16,599 for anything else. And you know, these are people playing 655 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,559 dress up as the military and they're given these weapons 656 00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:24,320 and kind of told to use them. And it's creating 657 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:32,800 a very deranged, scary, unlawful situation, and it is an invasion. 658 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,559 If you're wondering the legal basis of the lawsuit in Minneapolis, Minnesota, 659 00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:42,199 in Minneapolis Saint Paul and the state generally, it's that 660 00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:46,760 our law enforcement can't do their job because our law 661 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,360 enforcement now is being pulled to have to deal with 662 00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:56,719 ice attacking our population. Our hospitals can't function effectively because 663 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:02,079 ice is terrorizing them. Our schools can run because people 664 00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:04,840 don't want to send their children to school right now. 665 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,199 And so the Tenth Amendment says all of the enumerated 666 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,559 powers that are not given to the federal government are 667 00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:19,079 reserved for the state local policing education for example, those 668 00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:24,679 are local state functions, and the federal government is now 669 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:30,519 using a militarized paramilitary force to invade a city, and 670 00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:34,320 I think it's important that we recognize that Ice and 671 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,320 Border Patrol are paramilitary. 672 00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:39,599 Speaker 3: Hey, Ben, can we go back to that reporting that 673 00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:42,079 you were talking about with Slate for a quick second. 674 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,519 I would be very curious after he was accepted. I 675 00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:51,159 wonder because it's forty seven days of training, and I'm 676 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:56,119 kind of curious as to what that training entails over 677 00:44:56,159 --> 00:44:58,760 the forty seven days. Is it every day you go 678 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,440 in for forty seven days and you watch a video 679 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,639 of Christinome, you know, cosplaying in a different outfit. Hi today, 680 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,760 I'm you know, I'm uh, you know cowgirl, you know 681 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,760 cowgirl Christie, And this is how we're going to deal 682 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,480 with states that you know, have horses. I mean, who 683 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,119 the hell knows, you know what what it's about. I'm 684 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,880 dying to know what that forty seven days of training 685 00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:27,719 or I don't even know what we would call it? 686 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,079 What what that even in twenty. 687 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:35,159 Speaker 1: Seven days of case playing dungeons and dragons as Ice 688 00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:37,920 agents and and Border patrol. You know, we just got 689 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,639 video too. I'm not going to be able to play 690 00:45:40,679 --> 00:45:42,639 it here, but I'll play it in a in a 691 00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:45,480 future video. I do because we're uploading it right now. 692 00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:50,599 That ICE agents attacked and arrested people in Minneapolis and 693 00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:55,360 then bragged about, quote, we killed the lesbian bitch. We 694 00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:59,039 killed the lesbian bitch is what Ice and border. And 695 00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:04,960 by the way, the killer Jonathan Ross, after shooting Renee 696 00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:09,280 Nicole Good three times in the face, said fucking bitch 697 00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:14,880 after he shot her in the face three times. You know, 698 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,800 one of the things when you go back to COVID, 699 00:46:18,039 --> 00:46:23,559 that just what made me get politically active or involved 700 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,000 or I don't even like to use the word political 701 00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:29,599 because I think it's human humanity active, because I don't 702 00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:32,880 view this actually as political at all. I viewed as 703 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,639 fighting for humanity was you know, one of the reasons 704 00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:41,679 they call certain cults death cults is that because life 705 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,639 has very little meaning, it's just service to the cult 706 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:51,199 leader and dying in service of a deranged and demented cult. 707 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,599 And one of the things that just shocked my conscious 708 00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:58,920 during COVID is when you had these massive death numbers, 709 00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:03,079 there was a group in the population that took it seriously, 710 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,000 and there was a group that truly didn't care as 711 00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:08,920 long as they were not the ones dying, but then 712 00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:12,679 perceive that they weren't going to be the ones who 713 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,760 died or if they did. So, what if you could 714 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,639 reduce life to having so little meaning? 715 00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 2: Right? 716 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,679 Speaker 1: I mean, dude, I did this exercise the other day 717 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,280 because I wanted to know. We were just thinking about 718 00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:33,559 the blessing of our baby girl, he meant him, and 719 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,079 I wanted to know, Well, what are the odds of 720 00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:39,440 being born? It's a silly existential question. What are the 721 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,159 odds of being born? Of any human being who's alive? 722 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,119 The odds of being born are one and five hundred 723 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:54,280 trillion to be alive. And whether you are a religious 724 00:47:54,320 --> 00:48:00,039 person or not a religious person, that number should be 725 00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:04,719 a very humbling number. And as I like to say 726 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,760 on this show, a lot where we pull back and 727 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,199 we shouldn't be if we just focus on the gamified 728 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,519 nature of politics, this person versus that person and this personality. 729 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,199 Speaker 3: We lose. 730 00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: Trillion, really five hundred trillion. And it goes on to 731 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,880 explain how because it has to be at the perfect time. 732 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,039 It goes back of one parent meeting another parent, your 733 00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:32,719 grandparents meeting the grandparents. 734 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 3: It depends on who, oh, now I sh' going back right, right, right. 735 00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:42,039 Speaker 1: And and so it is a broader analysis of all 736 00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:44,880 of these things. And Lindy, your great great great great 737 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,079 great great great had to meet your great great great 738 00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:48,440 great great great great great. 739 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,199 Speaker 2: Great, you know. 740 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: And so it's one in five hundred trillion for us 741 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,000 to walk this planet. And that's why I said, it's 742 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,840 such a humbling number when you think about that. But 743 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,559 life is precious. And this is what I try to 744 00:49:01,559 --> 00:49:03,559 say to my law school class also, or just in 745 00:49:03,639 --> 00:49:07,239 general when I interact, it's like, we have to take 746 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,400 a step back and try to be like, what are 747 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,960 we trying to accomplish with like with our life, our 748 00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:17,679 with our very existence. And do we want to be 749 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,000 good and uplift or do we want to be evil 750 00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:22,199 and bad? And I don't mean to bring us into 751 00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:27,800 these existential areas, but sometimes the coverage is so Democrat, Democrat, Republican, Republican, 752 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,199 this person versus that person. This is Bumbani versus a 753 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,000 centrist this person. It's like, chill, what are we doing 754 00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:35,280 to help human beings? 755 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,679 Speaker 3: And by the way, for some people, it's even more 756 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,639 than five hundred trillion, Like my father, who's a Holocaust survivor. 757 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,679 So imagine from the town in ko Bochnia in Poland 758 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,880 where he was from. So just imagine less than ten 759 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,440 percent of that town survived. So I think his numbers 760 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,360 would probably, you know, also be you know, off the chart, ridiculous. 761 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,239 Two fingers salute one hundred percent go to John Ross, 762 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,079 goes to John Ross and all of those who support 763 00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:08,199 him on this GoFundMe bullshit. I mean, I can't imagine. 764 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,320 I can't imagine how to prave the human being must 765 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,239 be to turn around and say, yeah, he shot that woman. 766 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,199 I don't care. He doesn't like her because she's because 767 00:50:18,199 --> 00:50:20,440 she's gay, or he doesn't like her because she's a woman, 768 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,320 or doesn't like her because she's a democrat, or because 769 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,039 whatever it might be, because she was smiling at him 770 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,039 and laughing. Who knows what it is that set this 771 00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:32,000 idiot off. But what about the idiots that is supporting 772 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,880 the action of a man who opened fire shot a 773 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,400 woman three times, once in the shoulder, through the front 774 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,519 windshield and twice through the side window in the face. 775 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,880 All right, imagine and you're gonna say, hey, yeah, yeah, 776 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,199 you know, that's where I want to That's where I 777 00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:49,920 want to put some of my money I want to 778 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,719 give that guy, because you know what he deserves it. 779 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,800 Fuck them all right, and whatever whatever fucking tree that 780 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,159 they fell out of, because they clearly, like I've always 781 00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:05,400 said about MAGA, you're talking about people with three brain 782 00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:10,000 cells and four teeth, and this asshole is definitely, definitely 783 00:51:10,039 --> 00:51:14,320 the poster child for stupidity, for MAGA stupidity. So John 784 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,840 Ross to you and anybody that supports this piece of 785 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,320 shit that went ahead and took a life for no 786 00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:24,000 fucking reason at all, Fuck you, dude. 787 00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:29,599 Speaker 1: Reminder everybody hit subscribe, help us get to six million 788 00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:33,199 subscribers here, but more importantly, subscribe to Michael Cohen's YouTube 789 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,119 channel at the Michael Cohen. 790 00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:36,320 Speaker 3: So they could subscribe to both. 791 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 2: Could subscribe to that hard if. 792 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:39,119 Speaker 3: You have to. 793 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: If you have to pick one, BA, pick Michael. 794 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 3: I listen. Thankfulness for independent you know, networks and journalists. 795 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,920 I mean, I'm so thankful as well to Midas Touch Network. 796 00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:57,199 I've been with them a long time, like since almost 797 00:51:57,199 --> 00:51:59,360 the day that they started, and I can tell you 798 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,440 they put up my articles that I put out each day. 799 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,280 I wake up very early four thirty five in the morning, 800 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,000 you know, by seven forty five eight o'clock in the morning. 801 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,679 They're out there for everybody to read. We don't hide 802 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:17,199 behind paywalls. It's all about education. It's all about understanding truth. 803 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,920 And that's the one thing. It's truth and love and 804 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,639 respect that this network stands for. And that's why I'm 805 00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:27,840 so proud to be affiliated with Ben and the Brothers 806 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,719 and the network and everybody that's on it. 807 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: Amazing everybody, hit subscribe. We appreciate you. You now check 808 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,960 out my subscribe so now now now subscribe, Subscribe to 809 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:44,519 a substack. 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Right after the show. 821 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 1: I have the Harry thing, but we'll do one tonight. Okay, 822 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,400 after this, I record the Harry videos and then that 823 00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:30,239 usually takes me like an hour, and then those videos 824 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,159 get then we'll do. 825 00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:34,280 Speaker 3: It yep, So everybody stay tuned for it. 826 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,800 Speaker 1: All right by, everybody, have a great one. Shout out 827 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,599 Midas Mighty, shout out beat Down Brigaders.