1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is her live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio and Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to dpeakclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,600 your support. It is Monday at two o'clock. That means 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,520 it's time now to chat with Ap Dylan. She is 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,159 a reporter over at the North State Journal at sjonline 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,640 dot com and also her substack more to the story. 13 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:44,679 You can subscribe to that as well. She does a 14 00:00:44,719 --> 00:00:47,200 ton of work for both publications. Welcome, Ap, How are 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:47,759 you this week? 16 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:49,399 Speaker 2: Goodkie? How are you doing? 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm all right, I'm all right. So let's start with 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:58,560 the discipline policies at schools. You wrote about this on 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,000 your substack. More to the story that President Donald Trump 20 00:01:03,079 --> 00:01:08,040 issued an executive order that effectively ends the Obama era 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,840 disciplined policies. So what were these policies and why is 22 00:01:12,879 --> 00:01:13,680 this a big deal. 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,879 Speaker 2: Well, back in twenty fourteen, the Obama administration issued a 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,359 Dear Colleague letter. It basically told districts and states that 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,480 they're sorry, my little out of brass, that their disciplined 26 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,760 policies had to be taking race into consideration because there 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,239 were these activist groups. We're going around the country talking 28 00:01:33,239 --> 00:01:37,439 about how minority students are disciplined at greater rates than 29 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,439 white students were, but none of their data or there's 30 00:01:40,519 --> 00:01:44,239 you know, their presentations ever showed whether or not those 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:49,599 disciplinary actions were actually warranted. So this THEO undoes that one. 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,159 Speaker 1: This is along the lines of the and we covered 33 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:54,840 this a couple of weeks ago when the Supreme Court, 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,000 I think they did a ruling on this. I'm sure 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,959 I'm drawing. It was the disparate impact where it said 36 00:02:01,079 --> 00:02:05,280 just simply or yeah, simply having a data set that 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:11,159 shows some difference in results based or that is, you know, 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,719 correlated maybe but not caused as proof. But to say like, okay, 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,319 you've got I think the example I used was firefighters. 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,960 You got to be able to lift two hundred pounds 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,960 and oh no, women couldn't do the lift men could. 42 00:02:24,439 --> 00:02:27,879 But that doesn't prove that you're discriminating against women. It 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,680 just says, we have a standard of two hundred pounds 44 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:32,439 or three hundred pounds whatever you got to be able 45 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:35,400 to lift. And but you look at the data and 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,560 the outcome and you would then say, oh, that's proof 47 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:44,280 that disparate impact or outcome is proof of some nefarious motivation. 48 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,639 That's what this sounds like. 49 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:48,479 Speaker 2: It's very so much to that. It deals with what 50 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,759 the so called school to prison pipeline, where students were 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,919 being referred to for legal action for some of their 52 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,599 some of their activities and addition to suspensions, and that 53 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,919 they were going through the juvenile justice system. I mean 54 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,560 these were for things like serious assaults and you know, 55 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:09,560 bringing a weapons to school. I mean, these weren't for 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,960 just little little trifling things where two students got in 57 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,400 the spat. Now, these were these were serious crimes that 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,680 were happening on campuses. And so what the dear colleague 59 00:03:18,719 --> 00:03:21,000 letter or do you Obama administration did was basically said, yeah, 60 00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:23,439 you can't be suspending kids, and you have to change 61 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:27,560 how you're altering your suspension reports and you have to 62 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,919 use left out of school suspensions and so districts broad 63 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:37,479 in things like restorative justice whereby the student doesn't get 64 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:39,319 suspended at all, and they just have to tell the 65 00:03:39,319 --> 00:03:43,240 other student they're sorry. And there was an uptick in 66 00:03:43,319 --> 00:03:46,560 school of violence following disorder whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa 67 00:03:46,599 --> 00:03:48,360 whoa wha exploded afterwards. 68 00:03:48,479 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on, hang on. So wait a minute, 69 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:53,479 So the school to prison pipeline was not shut down 70 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,879 by this approach with restorative justice, So limiting disciplinary action 71 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,360 to get fewer criminals didn't work. 72 00:04:03,639 --> 00:04:06,719 Speaker 2: Nope. In fact, it kind of ties into the juvenile 73 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,599 justice changes that were made to legislation here in North 74 00:04:10,599 --> 00:04:13,479 Carolina in the last year. Yeah, because we were seeing, 75 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,680 you know, all these kids committing these serious crimes like murder, 76 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,079 attempted murder, carjackings, you know, assault with a deadly weapon. 77 00:04:22,639 --> 00:04:24,319 There were at least twenty or thirty of these that 78 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,959 I logged in twenty twenty four alone across North Carolina. 79 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:32,240 And you know, so these students were obviously, you know, 80 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,279 they were mostly more seventeen nunder. One was as young 81 00:04:34,319 --> 00:04:37,639 as thirteen, I believe. And these kids, you know, are 82 00:04:37,759 --> 00:04:40,160 the types that were being suspended in schools, but no 83 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,199 longer allowed to be given out of school suspensions because 84 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,199 of that former letter. Now some of them were getting 85 00:04:46,199 --> 00:04:48,519 out of school suspensions, but they were short and tenure 86 00:04:48,959 --> 00:04:50,480 and then they could come back in and do this 87 00:04:50,519 --> 00:04:53,519 restorative justice where they basically said sorry to their victim 88 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,800 who had to sit there in a room with them 89 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,920 and basically be laughed at. Yeah, because this was a 90 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:02,079 joke to these kids. 91 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: Right, And so like there is what I'm thinking of 92 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,959 in like third grade reading, right, third grade being at 93 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,439 grade level in third grade? Right, this has been linked 94 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:15,519 to like if you're not at grade level by third grade, 95 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,560 chances are you're not going to be very successful. And 96 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:23,120 like there from what I remember about the research, like 97 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:26,399 there is a link there. Now, it's not to say 98 00:05:26,399 --> 00:05:29,040 that not being able to read makes you a criminal. 99 00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:32,399 It just means that whatever is going on in your 100 00:05:32,519 --> 00:05:36,319 life in your family that is not helping you to 101 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:41,040 read at grade level by grade three, those factors persist 102 00:05:41,079 --> 00:05:44,680 and cause negative implications for you down the road. It 103 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:48,680 seems like the same thing might be going on here 104 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,759 with the quote school to prison pipeline. 105 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean there's also the components that you know, 106 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,720 the activists will never talk to talk to you about, 107 00:05:56,759 --> 00:05:58,839 and that's like where are the parents, right, where in 108 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:01,920 the parents and all this thing. And what's interesting is 109 00:06:01,959 --> 00:06:04,560 that for Syze County, Winston Sale and Foresze schools have 110 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:08,040 had a serious discipline problem and recording fights you know 111 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,480 in the in the halls, mass fights in the halls, 112 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:13,680 showing up on social media, and uh, last week of 113 00:06:13,759 --> 00:06:17,240 Forsythed Sheriff Bobby Kimbro you know, was asked about this 114 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,680 and he said, you know, basically, where are the parents. 115 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,519 We've got a serious problem about parents not disciplining their 116 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,319 kids in their homes and violence is an all time high. 117 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,680 And there's a video of it on on x which 118 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,600 I linked to in the in the article, and he's 119 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,560 exactly right. There's there's multiple components. Here's you know, a 120 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,720 lot of these kids are coming from families that are 121 00:06:38,759 --> 00:06:41,879 not two parent families that are you know, or they're 122 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,959 living with a relative. There's a lot of frustrations, there's 123 00:06:44,959 --> 00:06:49,040 not a lot of you know, role model of people 124 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,839 in their lives, and they're they're under the gun to, 125 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,319 you know, under peer pressure in certain circumstances to act 126 00:06:56,319 --> 00:07:01,079 out this way. So it's it's got multiple moving parts there. 127 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,120 But when you boil it on down, the watering down 128 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,639 at discipline policies, did them no. 129 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: Favors, No, no, Apparently we are doomed to repeat, you know, 130 00:07:11,319 --> 00:07:14,560 mistakes in cycles, I guess, so we'll go through like 131 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,240 we saw in the eighties with the soft on crime, 132 00:07:17,319 --> 00:07:20,600 light touch approach, and you know the mayhem that resulted 133 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,000 from that. Speaking of mayhem, let's talk about illegal immigration. 134 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:26,959 You got a piece also more to the story at 135 00:07:26,959 --> 00:07:30,759 your substack about and I haven't heard this name in 136 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,600 a while, Duran Duran. I was not aware. Duran Duran 137 00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:37,920 has no I'm kidding that's it is a bandoning. But 138 00:07:37,959 --> 00:07:39,720 they like this is a kind of an odd name. 139 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,439 Paula Duran Duran twenty five years old. And Miguel Angel 140 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:51,800 Duran Duran, a brother and sister illegal alien partnership here 141 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:58,759 who apparently reportedly committed a home invasion and kidnapping. And 142 00:07:58,759 --> 00:07:59,959 this was what in Wake County. 143 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a woman and her infant child. And 144 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,279 they had a third accomplish with them who was older 145 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:08,560 and he's been caught. His name, let me see what 146 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:13,160 was it again? And Leo Elidoro, Leo Estrada Hernandez, and 147 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:16,000 he was thirty seven, so clearly he was the brain 148 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,920 trust in this one, he was charged with two counts 149 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,759 of prist greet kidnapping, one count second degree kidnapping, one 150 00:08:22,759 --> 00:08:26,519 count possession of a firearm by a felon, and two 151 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,920 accounts of assault by pointing a firearm. And he took 152 00:08:29,959 --> 00:08:33,320 off and left, you know, after they decided to you know, 153 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,000 demand a million dollars from the family that didn't have it. 154 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,159 This trio took off with the wife and the daughter 155 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,480 and trying to hold him for ransom. The wife and 156 00:08:42,639 --> 00:08:45,960 daughter were returned safely, but Hernandez was in the wind. 157 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,919 But he was captured on May second, and he was 158 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,039 considered one of the fbis most wanted there. 159 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: So we don't know, like, we don't know if the 160 00:08:54,519 --> 00:08:57,039 victims knew these these suspects. 161 00:08:57,279 --> 00:08:59,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a lot about the victims, and I 162 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,320 don't I don't think that we're going to learn a 163 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,320 lot about them until court case documents are killed. But 164 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:07,720 I get the feeling that, you know, given the ridiculous 165 00:09:07,759 --> 00:09:10,559 demand that they made of them, that you know, it's 166 00:09:10,639 --> 00:09:12,759 possible they knew each other and that there was an 167 00:09:12,759 --> 00:09:17,159 illegal exchange or transaction that was being argued over. Okay, 168 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,720 So I just have that feeling. 169 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there, and that's quite possible. So the home 170 00:09:22,919 --> 00:09:26,480 invasion in kidnapping happened. You point out the same day 171 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:30,519 that Democrats in the General Assembly in Raleigh voted against 172 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,799 a bill that would I call it Gary's Law. That's 173 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,240 what I'm calling it, named after Gary, not my fault McFadden, 174 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,240 our sheriff of meckliberg County, who you also make note of, 175 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,320 one of the main reasons for House Bill three point eighteen. 176 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,000 That's why I call it Gary's Law. And so this 177 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:50,399 was the same day the home invasion in kidnapping. The 178 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,840 same day Democrats voted against Gary's. 179 00:09:53,519 --> 00:09:59,159 Speaker 2: Law, all except for one, right, YEP, Representative Carla Cunningham, 180 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,799 a Democrat from my Glenberg County, which is where Sheriff 181 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:07,320 McFadden resides, right, that's his jurisdiction. And she said that 182 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,080 this was about public safety. This is about keeping the 183 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,360 public safety. You know, these are illegal aliens in the country. 184 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,519 They're not here legally, they're committing crimes. This is this 185 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,440 is not this is a no Brainer's pretty much what 186 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,159 she's saying. And she's correct. So if this thing were 187 00:10:22,159 --> 00:10:25,039 to go to avtol over, she could be that one vote. 188 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: M HM gets it fast, AP, We're going to leave 189 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,320 it there. You can read AP's work. She's over at 190 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,279 the North State Journal nsjonline dot com. Also get her 191 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,080 substack at More to the Story, that's the name of it. 192 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,759 More to the Story. AP, good to talk with you 193 00:10:39,799 --> 00:10:42,200 as always, Thanks so much, Thank you, PTE. All right, 194 00:10:42,279 --> 00:10:45,200 take care. That's AP Dylan. All right. 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Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, 214 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,559 but it also supports Ground News as they make the 215 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:53,440 media landscape more transparent. So we mentioned Sheriff Gary. Not 216 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,399 my fault McFadden, And I know some people think I'm 217 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,000 too tough on him, but I feel like I'm actually 218 00:12:03,039 --> 00:12:08,799 not just pointing out what he is doing, which apparently 219 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:13,440 a lot of people in Mecklenburg County, mostly Democrats and 220 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:18,240 Democrat leadership support him doing so. I don't know why 221 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,519 you think that's being hard on the guide, you know, 222 00:12:21,639 --> 00:12:24,120 telling you what he's doing, and he has told you 223 00:12:24,159 --> 00:12:26,000 what he's doing, what he's all about. He does not 224 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,320 believe deportations make America safer. It doesn't make our community safer. 225 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:37,120 He said that. So the Charlotte Observer piece by Ryan Orley, 226 00:12:37,399 --> 00:12:40,480 who again is funded by a left wing organization called 227 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:47,519 the Just Trust. But the Observer maintains full editorial control 228 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:52,519 of its journalism. But they just take money from these 229 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,919 types of organizations. So does NPR by the way. You'll 230 00:12:56,919 --> 00:12:59,399 hear their disclaimers too, that you know this reporting was 231 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:05,039 made possible by a grant from Planned Parenthood, actually Planned 232 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,000 Parenthood sponsored. I think it was Politico's playbook the other day, 233 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,600 like for like a whole week plan brought to you 234 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,519 by Planned Parenthood. Oh wow, do you think they're gonna 235 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:17,799 do anything critical about Planned Parenthood? Yeah, probably not so. 236 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,519 I mentioned that ICE has picked up people at the 237 00:13:24,519 --> 00:13:28,440 courthouse in Mecklamurke County. We went over this, what was 238 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,000 it like a week a week and a half ago 239 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,840 when not my fault, mcfatten got very upset at ICE 240 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:39,480 detaining somebody outside the courthouse and the person tried to 241 00:13:40,279 --> 00:13:43,519 I think they tried to flee. But regardless, this is 242 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:47,159 what ICE has been doing. They've been scooping up people, 243 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,000 grabbing them up before they can get too far outside 244 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,240 of the outside of the courthouse. When they when they 245 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,720 leave the jail the jail for people who don't know, 246 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,720 the jail and the courthouse are connected buildings, right, so 247 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:03,360 they come out when they get released, after they've bonded out, 248 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,200 ICE is standing out there and they pick them up. 249 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,200 And this has caused great concern. Oh my gosh, concern, concern, 250 00:14:10,879 --> 00:14:15,799 and there are activists, lawyers and they are calling up 251 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,759 the sheriff and like, oh my gosh, Ice is out front. 252 00:14:18,799 --> 00:14:20,799 Oh my gosh, I feel unsafe in all of this. 253 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,159 So Ice has apparently arrested. According to the Charlotte Observer 254 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:29,120 report by Ryan Orley, four people have been picked up 255 00:14:29,159 --> 00:14:34,960 outside the Mecklinburg County Courthouse last month, alarming some lawyers 256 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,799 and leading Sheriff Gary mcfeddin to again call for the 257 00:14:40,879 --> 00:14:48,600 agency to work with him. See this is democrat privilege. 258 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:52,600 Democrats just get to say this stuff. I call for 259 00:14:52,679 --> 00:14:57,320 you to work with me. Yeah. Ice has told you 260 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,399 how to work with them. Ice has made it clear 261 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,960 this is how you can help us, and he doesn't 262 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,679 want to do that. So what else is there? He 263 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,360 hasn't laid out anything specific. This is why the state 264 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,120 legislature is now coming after him again with another piece 265 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,919 of legislation to tighten the loophole that he is using. 266 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:20,720 Because I don't know when to count the forty eight 267 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,759 hours on the on the detainer. When do I start 268 00:15:23,799 --> 00:15:26,039 that clock running? And Gary wants to start it running 269 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,679 as soon as somebody walks in the door, so he'll 270 00:15:29,879 --> 00:15:32,480 type the you know, they'll type the person's name into 271 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,039 the system and they're like, oh, you're not a citizen. 272 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:38,279 Oh we can't identify you, where are you from? And 273 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,960 all this. So then they are required now thanks to 274 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,799 House built ten a year or so ago, that forced 275 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,960 the sheriffs to actually identify the people in their jails 276 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,440 and then alert ICE. Hey, we got somebody in our 277 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:57,879 jail that is an illegal alien. So now he alerts ICE, 278 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,120 and in his mind, that's when the forty eight hours starts, 279 00:16:01,159 --> 00:16:03,320 and that's all he needs to do. He doesn't have 280 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,679 to do anything else. What ICE requests in their detainer 281 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,000 is that when the person is about to be released, 282 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:14,720 that's when you need to call us. And here's our 283 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,039 phone number, and if you can't get us at this number, 284 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,679 here's the general phone number after hours number. So they 285 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,840 give them all this information on the detainer request, and 286 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,039 Gary says, I don't have to make that call. That's 287 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:36,960 not required. It's a voluntary ask from ICE. The detainer requests. 288 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,000 It's right there in the name detainer request, so sheriffs 289 00:16:40,039 --> 00:16:42,720 can say no. And when you do say no, by 290 00:16:42,759 --> 00:16:44,840 the way, and you do not cooperate with ICE, then 291 00:16:44,879 --> 00:16:49,679 you get tagged with the Sanctuary sheriff name. And that's 292 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,320 why Gary McFadden has that tag, and he doesn't like 293 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,720 that tag, but that's how you get the tag when 294 00:16:56,799 --> 00:16:59,639 you dismantle the two eighty seven g program, when you 295 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,639 run on campaign platform of not cooperating with ICE, when 296 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,759 you have a record of letting people out of your 297 00:17:06,839 --> 00:17:12,720 jail that had detainer requests on them, and you have 298 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:16,400 a history of not a larning ICE. After a law 299 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,880 gets passed to try to bring you into line, and 300 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,920 then you find another way around the law. See, all 301 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,519 of those things kind of culminate into this moniker of 302 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,440 Sanctuary Sheriff. That's how you get that moniker. 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Check questions and answers 328 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:02,960 about immigration, ice and more in Charlotte, and it says 329 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,319 ICE arrested four people outside the Mecklenburg County courthouse last month, 330 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,279 alarming some lawyers and leading Sheriff Gary McFadden to again 331 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,599 call for the agency to work with him. It's very 332 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,200 unusual for the federal agency to conduct out conduct arrests 333 00:19:16,279 --> 00:19:20,720 outside the courthouse, said Eddie Thomas, who oversees the Violent 334 00:19:20,799 --> 00:19:26,880 Crimes team at the local Public Defender's Office. Yes, it 335 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,279 has been unusual. That's because we had an administration prior 336 00:19:31,319 --> 00:19:34,480 to this one that did not allow anybody to enter 337 00:19:34,519 --> 00:19:39,440 any courthouses or sensitive areas. In the light, it hasn't 338 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,680 been a focus. Enforcing the law has not been a focus. 339 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,240 So now this is the new norm. This is now 340 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,559 the usual. He remembered that happening once or twice during 341 00:19:52,599 --> 00:19:56,799 Trump's last administration. Trump's borders are Tom Homan told Observer 342 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:04,000 partner WSOC to expect more arrests outside a courthouse. Charlotte's 343 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:10,039 Immigration court needs more funding too. Local immigration attorney Andres 344 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,839 Lopez said there were two ways to carry out a 345 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,720 mass deportation campaign. Either Congress could give more funding to 346 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:20,000 immigration court so due process could happen at a quicker pace, 347 00:20:20,759 --> 00:20:25,559 or the government could outright deny that due process. Well, 348 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:28,599 there's actually a third way we went over at last hour, 349 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:35,000 which was to pay people to self deport right, pay 350 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,240 for their airfare, give them a one thousand dollars gift, 351 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:45,000 a stipend, and go. And that's cheaper than running through 352 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:49,079 this whole process. And it costs like seventeen thousand dollars 353 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:55,319 on average per deportation. Tom Tillis, US senator from North 354 00:20:55,319 --> 00:21:03,359 Carolina called Mecklenburg County a sanctuary county. True, So that's 355 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,759 a fact check of Tillis. The term is used liberally 356 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,319 by Tillis and other politicians. In a social media post 357 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,799 labeling Mecklenburg and eight other North Carolina counties as sanctuaries, 358 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,039 Tillis said they quote refused to cooperate with law federal 359 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:25,160 law enforcement and instead shield dangerous criminal illegals. Some other 360 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,400 places have embraced the term. By California, former Governor Jerry 361 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,799 Brown signed a bill to make California a sanctuary state. 362 00:21:32,839 --> 00:21:37,160 See once again, like the right did not come up 363 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,559 with this term, the left did. You Guys on the left, 364 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:48,640 you celebrated that you would provide sanctuary and So when 365 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:54,519 the right sees you doing this and uses your term, now, 366 00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:56,920 it's oh, now it's a bad thing. Oh, you're using 367 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:03,240 it differently. No, the term is neutral. It's describing a 368 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:08,400 particular condition. And I would submit the reason why you 369 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,079 feel somewhat embarrassed by getting labeled as a sanctuary place 370 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:18,000 or a sanctuary sheriff or whatever is because the condition 371 00:22:18,319 --> 00:22:22,759 is embarrassing. It's like you don't want people to think 372 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,960 ill of you. You don't want people to Oh no, no, 373 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,759 I'm doing the right thing. Why won't you understand this 374 00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:30,279 is the right thing to do. They disagree with you. 375 00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:33,720 I disagree with you. No, you shouldn't be doing this. 376 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,960 State law requires sheriffs to honor the ICE requests, the 377 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,519 detainer requests that people be held for forty eight hours 378 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,599 when they're found to not have legal status. That's a 379 00:22:46,599 --> 00:22:51,640 long way of saying an illegal alien to Those requests 380 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,279 are called detainers. But the sheriff now says he is 381 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,599 honoring ice detainers, Well, that was because a house built 382 00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:05,880 ten right, House Bill ten said he had to. But 383 00:23:06,839 --> 00:23:09,799 he still found the loophole. And that's what the next 384 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,960 legislation that is being weighed right now in Raleigh is 385 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,920 all about. So is McFadden following the law when it 386 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,119 comes to Ice? Is the question that is asked in 387 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:26,160 the fact check, and the reporter finds yes, he is 388 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:31,160 following the law. McFadden's staff checks whether somebody booked into 389 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,559 the county jail is legally in the United States when 390 00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:37,440 they according to his office, when they are not, they 391 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,680 send a notice to ICE through a computer system. If 392 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,200 ICE wants that person, the agency can collect them up 393 00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:48,480 to forty eight hours after the notice. See what did 394 00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:52,920 I say earlier? McFadden starts the clock the forty eight hours. 395 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,279 He starts the clock at intake. And what Ice has 396 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,920 asked is a phone call before you're going to release. 397 00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:05,559 When you know the guy is bonding out right, or 398 00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:07,200 they're going in front of the magistrate, they're going to 399 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,519 get released, they're going before a judge, they're going to 400 00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:15,359 get released, you need to call Ice. And then once 401 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,640 he is like okay, you can go, the magistrate releases you. 402 00:24:20,319 --> 00:24:22,519 That's when ICE is asking for the forty eight hours 403 00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:25,200 so they can come get him. And that's what McFadden 404 00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:28,759 is not doing. The Sheriff's office has been sending notice 405 00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:31,359 to Ice, but Ice has asked for a phone call. 406 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,000 They don't tell you when, but the phone call they 407 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:39,799 want is when the guy is getting released. The Sheriff's 408 00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:42,599 Association of the State of North Carolina, the executive vice 409 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,000 president and general Counsel Eddie Caldwell, said ICE would prefer 410 00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:50,640 for that forty eight hours notice instead of being at 411 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,319 the front end of the process, to be at the 412 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,559 back end of the process when the person is about 413 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,160 to be released. So this House Bill three eighteen is 414 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,000 essentially a procedural fix, is what he called it. And 415 00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:06,319 then I don't know why this is relevant to the 416 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,440 fact check about whether McFadden is cooperating or not with ICE. 417 00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:14,599 But the last question to fact check is do immigrants 418 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,319 commit more crime than other people? And the fact checker 419 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,799 says no. Northwest University did a study that over one 420 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,200 hundred and fifty years, immigrants have been less likely to 421 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,440 be incarcerated than US born citizens. See. But here's the 422 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,440 problem with this stat and I have no reason to 423 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,039 doubt that at all. It makes sense, especially illegal aliens. 424 00:25:35,319 --> 00:25:37,440 They're trying to stay under the radar. They don't want 425 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,160 to get caught because if they get caught, they may 426 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,440 get sent home. Right so they don't want to get caught. This, 427 00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:44,400 by the way, also makes it easier for people to 428 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,480 exploit them. You can have employers that pay them next 429 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,400 to nothing, put them up in housing that is terrible 430 00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:56,799 cramp you know, forty people into a home and you know, 431 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,759 basically have indentured servants, and then threaten them with deportation 432 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,480 if they try to speak up for themselves. Right, You've 433 00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:10,160 created a system that exploits these people. That's not humane. 434 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:16,839 So the other thing, though, is that any crime that 435 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:20,240 is committed by an illegal alien should not have been 436 00:26:21,559 --> 00:26:23,559 committed in the first place because they should not be here. 437 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,039 So it's not a matter of comparing an illegal alien 438 00:26:28,039 --> 00:26:32,680 population to a native born population. It's comparing the illegal 439 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,759 alien crime numbers to zero, because that's what it should be. 440 00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:43,480 It should be zero. That's it. That's the comparison. But 441 00:26:43,519 --> 00:26:46,119 they always want to make this argument that somehow or another, 442 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,960 everybody is saying that they're more violent or more you know, 443 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,119 there are more criminals in that population. I've never made 444 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,039 that argument. To me, it's irrelevant. It's like the drunk 445 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,319 driver example. Drunk drivers sitting at a stoplight and gets 446 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,839 hit from behind. You're still going to get sighted for 447 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,240 drunk driving because you should not have been on the road. 448 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,359 You're drunk. Same deal. Now, McFadden put out a statement 449 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,119 and the Sheriff's Association put out a statement. I've got 450 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,759 them all right. So spring is here a time of 451 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,559 renewal and celebrations. You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries, and the 452 00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:22,480 special days for mom and dad. Your family's making memories 453 00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:24,200 that are going to last a lifetime. 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The MECKLAMERC 471 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,319 County Sheriff's Office will consistently adhere to the law as 472 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,039 we have done in the past with the North Carolina 473 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,000 General Statue one sixty two, sixty two a b C. 474 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,119 House Bill ten, and House Bill three eighteen. Should it 475 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,480 become law. Mecklenberg Sheriff's Office will also comply with that 476 00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:50,839 law along with all judicial signed orders, indictments, and ritz 477 00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:54,960 to legally transfer someone from state custody to federal custody. 478 00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:58,480 So once again, he's very specific in this language for 479 00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:06,319 a reason because deportation ice proceedings are civil, so he 480 00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:11,160 wants he wants judges. But see that's not what detainers are. 481 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,880 They don't come from judges. That's why he always says this. 482 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,480 As always, we will honor all criminal warrants, both state 483 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,480 and federal. During each arrest. We will continue to work. Sorry. 484 00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:29,000 We will continue to ask the pertinent questions regarding citizenship status. 485 00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:32,880 Should we be unable to determine citizenship of a possible 486 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,839 undocumented person, we will contact Immigration Customs and Enforcement and 487 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,160 provide them with the necessary information. Additionally, if staff receives 488 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:47,119 a federal civil detainer accompanied by a federal civil warrant 489 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:51,680 issued by an ICE officer, we will accept both documents 490 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,119 and have a Mecklinburg County deputy present the undocumented immigrant 491 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,640 with both civil documents to a state magistrate to seek 492 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,599 probab cause for an additional forty eight hour hold after 493 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,160 they have met all the conditions for their release. With 494 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,799 that said, House Built three eighteen, like its predecessor, House 495 00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:16,519 Built ten, still fails to rectify the legal issue of 496 00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:20,759 transferring an undocumented immigrant with pending state charges to ICE 497 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,759 for civil immigration proceedings. ICE agents must obtain a judicial 498 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:32,359 writ for Mecklenberg Sheriff's office to legally transfer custody. See 499 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:38,000 this is why they are arresting them outside the courthouse. Gary. 500 00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:41,519 They're not dealing with your with your stuff. Okay, they're 501 00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:45,519 not dealing with you. You can you can play the victim 502 00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:47,519 because that's what he does. He's either the hero or 503 00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:50,799 the victim. He's playing victim, like I'm trying to do 504 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,920 all of these things and I just won't cooberate with me. No, 505 00:30:57,079 --> 00:31:02,160 he's he's very specific in this language. He says, regardless 506 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,920 of notifying ICE of an individual's status or release time, 507 00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:09,839 this still does not resolve the legal limitation on transfer. 508 00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:10,519 Speaker 2: Right. 509 00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: So you know what, just give him a call, give 510 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,039 him a heads up the forty eight hours, call them, 511 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,920 and then you don't have to worry about it. You're 512 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,519 so worried about being sued. Right, supposedly that's the cover story. 513 00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:28,599 Oh I'm so worried. I'm gonna get it sued. Even 514 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,000 though like ninety five other sheriffs around the state do 515 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,200 cooperate fully with ICE, do effectuate these transfers, and none 516 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,920 of them have been sued. Keep hearing about this potential 517 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,240 threat for litigation. Yet nobody has been sued over this stuff. 518 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,599 But I'm sure it's a totally legitimate concern. So we'll 519 00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:52,119 take that off your plate. How about that, We'll solve 520 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,359 this liability concern for you. We will just pick them 521 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,640 up outside your courthouse. But oh no, no, eh, I can't believe. 522 00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:06,039 I got people make of these arrests outside the corner too. Yeah, 523 00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:11,359 they're allowed to do that. You have no control. It's 524 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,000 almost as if he doesn't want to cooperate. I know, 525 00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:17,400 it's like crazy, but anyway. Next up here is from 526 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:23,519 the Sheriff's Association statement House Built ten, which was the 527 00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:27,400 one that was approved last year. If the jail staff 528 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,759 is unable to determine if that prisoner is a legal 529 00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:32,680 resident or citizen of the US, then the jail staff 530 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:38,160 is required to follow certain specified procedures. Okay. This was 531 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:45,960 to force sheriff's offices to identify illegal aliens in custody. 532 00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:50,440 They had to force some sheriffs to do this. By Gary, 533 00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:54,240 it is our understanding and firm belief that all North 534 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,319 Carolina sheriffs are fully complying with the legal requirements in 535 00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,400 General Statute one sixty two, Disk six two, and we 536 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,559 have seen no information or indication to the contrary. Okay. 537 00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:08,359 So the Sheriff Association says that now that the law 538 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,160 specified you have to identify everybody in the jail and 539 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,599 you have to alert ice. Now they are complying. So 540 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,119 McFadden is complying with that and by the way, I've 541 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,279 seen or heard no reports otherwise. But he is still 542 00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,319 not fully cooperating. He's not acting in good faith. He's 543 00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:31,799 trying to find ways loopholes around helping ICE deport people 544 00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:34,960 because Gary mcfatten has said he doesn't believe deportation will 545 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,839 solve the illegal immigration problem. They then go on to 546 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,640 say the Sheriff Association says, we acknowledge that Immigration and 547 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,480 Customs Enforcement would prefer that sheriffs honor the request of 548 00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:53,599 ICE to voluntarily take additional actions beyond those required by 549 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,440 state or federal law, including number one, honoring immigration detainers 550 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,599 for forty eight hours beyond the time that the prisoner 551 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,160 would otherwise be released. Right, So to start the clock 552 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,039 running at the end, not at the beginning, Gary starts 553 00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:09,159 it at the beginning, notifying ICE forty eight hours before 554 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,360 the prisoner would be released from jail. Gary doesn't make 555 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,880 that call. Some sheriffs comply with these voluntary requests from ICE, 556 00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:21,039 and others do not, Like not my fault, macfadden. In 557 00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:23,960 either case, the sheriffs are fully complying with both state 558 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,480 and federal law, since the requests from ICE are voluntary 559 00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:29,920 and are not required by state or federal law, nor 560 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,559 by court order. Once again, I'm not aware of anybody 561 00:34:33,559 --> 00:34:37,880 making these arguments that McFadden is violating the law. He 562 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,239 is violating the spirit of the law. He is acting 563 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,719 in bad faith by trying to find every which way 564 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,559 he can to not fully cooperate. When Ice asks you 565 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:50,480 to do something and you have the ability to say no, 566 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,480 and then you say no, you don't then get to say, 567 00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:57,280 but I want to cooperate because you were given an 568 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,920 opportunity to cooperate voluntarily and refre used, right, and so 569 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,599 now the state is coming back and you're like, okay, 570 00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:05,960 let's go ahead and close that little loophole for you. 571 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,719 And they go on to say, we believe all sheriffs 572 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,480 are fully complying with the current legal requirements. We are 573 00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:19,719 confident that if House Bill three eighteen is enacted into law, 574 00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:24,559 all sheriffs will comply with that law as well. We 575 00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:27,880 shall see, you know, we shall see. I again, I 576 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,760 have no evidence or have heard no reports that any 577 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,519 sheriff is violating the law the letter of the law. 578 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,239 But we'll see if Gary can find another loophole after 579 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,280 the fact. All right, that'll do it for this episode. 580 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,400 Thank you so much for listening. 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