WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:04.320 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 2 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:05.879 KFI AM six forty. 3 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:09.439 Joining me in studio is none other than Nick Polyochini. 4 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:11.039 What is up, my brother? 5 00:00:11.199 --> 00:00:11.880 What is up? 6 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:14.039 Good sir? It's lovely to see you. Lovely to be 7 00:00:14.039 --> 00:00:16.640 seen as we're wrapping up February last week. Is crazy 8 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:17.719 to think they were already. 9 00:00:17.399 --> 00:00:20.559 There already, even though it is a shorter month, right, 10 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:23.640 it feels even shorter for some reason, maybe because January 11 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:25.519 lasted seventy five days. 12 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:27.600 You are correct, and February seems to have been the 13 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.800 longest on record, even though we're going to be wrapping it. 14 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:31.199 Up this week. 15 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:37.520 So it's been busy, it's been good, and I want 16 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:40.640 to take us to as always very akin to the 17 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:44.560 old days with this week of a Nick Poliochanni. This 18 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:47.159 Friday is something big that's happening, and you and I 19 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:49.479 briefly talked about it just off air, and we kind 20 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:51.560 of we sift to save it for the air kind 21 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:52.280 of concept. 22 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:52.520 Yep. 23 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:55.079 So the thing I want to talk about is this 24 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:59.880 Friday is going to be a nationwide economic blackout, and 25 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:04.920 what that specifically means is that there is a boycott 26 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:11.959 of all major companies that is being requested, meaning Amazon, Walmart, Target, 27 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:16.040 Best Buy, McDonald's, Meta which would be Instagram and Facebook, 28 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:21.120 Ford Motor Company, Chipotle, Coca Cola, which all of these 29 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:24.400 are major brands that you can barely get around without 30 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:25.480 doing anything. 31 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:28.319 What is the reason for this economic boycott? 32 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:33.400 They are trying to specifically make their I guess you 33 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:34.760 would say people in general. 34 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:37.439 So there's a group that has come together that's called 35 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:43.640 the People's Union USA, and they organized boycott's traditionally before, 36 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:47.200 but specifically looking at retailers because they're trying to send 37 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:50.480 a message with everything that's been going on and the 38 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:53.280 thing that for me and I have gotten a lot 39 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:56.799 of feedback from social media from a lot of listeners 40 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:02.120 that KFI and elsewhere that it's specific it's a twenty 41 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:04.920 four hour time period where you're being urged to refrain 42 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:08.840 from spending money unnecessarily both online and in store with 43 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:13.759 these particular large retailers, and it is trying to make 44 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:17.439 the and it's a reference specifically to DEI with you know, 45 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:22.280 with everything that's been going on since January twentieth until now, 46 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:25.360 and so with that all being said, and it was 47 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.599 funny because I was talking to twelve off air. I 48 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:33.599 both actively and inactively or you know, passively. I haven't 49 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:36.840 been a target since the twentieth I haven't been to Walmart. 50 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:39.879 I have been Costco. But you know, we got you 51 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:42.759 got to pick and choose your retailers. But this Friday 52 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:44.639 is going to be the major And there's been small 53 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:49.439 blackouts throughout from you know, the new presidency through now, 54 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:52.479 but this is one that is really being pushed, especially 55 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:53.960 by minority groups. 56 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:55.199 Let me jump in there. 57 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:59.639 Yeah, and I talk about protests and effective protest just 58 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.400 about every day with every issue on this show. 59 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:03.639 I'm going to be consistent. 60 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:06.599 So let me just ask you what word answer, because 61 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:08.639 that's going to predicate how I'm going to respond. 62 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:09.159 Sounds great. 63 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:12.960 Is this going to be done in the hopes of 64 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:15.919 actually changing something or only creating awareness? 65 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:19.719 It is at this point creating awareness. 66 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:24.039 Specifically, the hope is to have an economic impact, to 67 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:26.159 be able to have a blip on the radar. 68 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:28.199 Let me jump in. Go ahead. You are not going 69 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:30.599 to have any economic impact. And I'll tell you what. 70 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:36.000 These major corporations measure their revenue in quarters, not a day. 71 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:37.759 In other words, if they have a down Friday and 72 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:40.800 everyone starts spending on Saturday. It's not going to make 73 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:42.840 any different and it's not even going difference, and it's 74 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:45.199 not even going to register. And I always use the 75 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:48.560 Montgomery bus boycott of nineteen fifty five as a comparison point, 76 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:51.080 which lasted three hundred and eighty one days and set 77 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:52.560 off the modern civil rights movement. 78 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.039 That's Rosa Parks. She refused to sit at the back 79 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:55.960 of the bus. 80 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:58.159 And the people in Montgomery, Alabama refused to use the 81 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:01.000 bus lines for three hundred and eighty one days. That 82 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:05.400 had an economic impact. Now, there was an old chain 83 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:07.680 letter that would float around the nineteen nineties and early 84 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:09.960 two thousands called the Big Gas Out because people were 85 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:12.479 mad about remember gas price, and they said let's not 86 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:15.199 buy gas for a single day. It did not change 87 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:18.000 a damn thing. So I say, and I asked, respectfully, 88 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:20.279 are you trying to create awareness? Are you're trying to 89 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:23.560 create economic impact? Because one day it's not going to 90 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.879 create any economic impact. What we have seen is people 91 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.120 have really laid into target and not going to target 92 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:34.040 over an extended period of time. That target is feeling it. 93 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:36.399 But if you say, for one day, we're not going 94 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:38.720 to spend that any big box retailer or we're not 95 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:40.480 going to buy over here, bye over there, But the 96 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:42.040 next day we can go back to what we were 97 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:45.319 doing before. It's not going to be felt. It's not 98 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:47.079 going to make a difference, with exception of you might 99 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:48.480 get some news coverage. 100 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:49.000 Right and I think that's it. 101 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:51.519 And again, like you've just specifically had, I mean, this 102 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:53.519 is why I come here. The thing that I like 103 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:55.519 being a part of later with mo Kelly is because 104 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:58.160 I learn as well and being able to bring in 105 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:00.600 topics like this and talk about them in it environment 106 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:03.399 with somebody who is well versed in a lot of 107 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:07.480 background information. It's really helpful because again it's going to 108 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:11.639 hopefully bring awareness and obviously not economically affect those people 109 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:15.720 that are there. I want to play and you said 110 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:19.759 target specifically, and target is a very big situation. 111 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:20.759 I guess you would say. 112 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:24.279 I was trying to figure out before I came on 113 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:28.240 the show tonight exactly how to present it because I 114 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:31.120 know I'm going up against the big guns and it 115 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:34.040 is always good to bring a little bit of I 116 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:38.240 don't know background to it. There's a TikToker not to employ, 117 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:41.079 you know, the social media platform that was shut down 118 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:45.199 and then brought back by the Illustrious Current was shut down, Yeah, 119 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.319 allegedly six hours something like that anyway. 120 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:49.199 But Amber Haley Lord. 121 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:54.079 Who is a advocate for healthcare and corporate ethic related 122 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:56.879 issues on TikTok Robin, can you play that piece of 123 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:57.759 audio for me please? 124 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:00.199 Why is everyone going after Target so hard? 125 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:02.519 A bunch of brands backed away from DEI and we 126 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:06.600 all decided to boycott Target, Walmart, Amazon, and a slew 127 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:08.959 of others. Saw this really great question where this person 128 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:10.399 was asking, why is everyone going so. 129 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:11.240 Hard about Target? 130 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:13.839 I know exactly why, because I've been doing it too. 131 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:15.920 I think a lot of people are more butt hurt 132 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:20.040 about Target because Target tricked us for so long talking 133 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:26.759 about inclusivity, supporting black brands, diversity, equity, LGBTQ, pride, stuff, 134 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:29.959 all the things. Really were loud and proud about so 135 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:31.920 many things for so many years, and it was our 136 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:34.639 happy place. We felt good being there. We felt like, 137 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:37.519 as far as capitalism goes and big box stores, that 138 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.040 we could safely spend our money there and that they 139 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:41.959 had a lot of great brands and they were supporting 140 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:45.279 And then just at the slight sign of an issue. 141 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:47.480 They just tucked tail and run. They're a big company 142 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:49.160 with a lot of money and a lot of lawyers. 143 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:51.800 Without a shadow of a doubt, they did not have 144 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:54.759 to do this. They were scared, and they were scared 145 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:57.199 of losing money, and now they're losing money, and I 146 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:00.199 encourage you guys to keep boycotting them. One big move 147 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:02.439 that we recently made because we were getting like our 148 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:06.319 pet food, like doggy diapers and dog treats and cat 149 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:09.639 treats and all those things there, We now solely get 150 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:12.360 everything from Chewi and actually we put everything on auto ships. 151 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:13.879 We don't have to make a trip to the store, 152 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:15.839 and we're getting it for less money. And Chewy is 153 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:16.519 a great company. 154 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:18.360 So that's solved. 155 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:21.199 So I think the thing and that there's a lot 156 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:23.600 of information that Amber put out there specifically, but I 157 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:26.959 think that for me this is something and as we scroll, 158 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:31.199 you know doom scroll, as it's very very popular, you 159 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:34.360 are able to find things that align depending on what 160 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:36.000 you like and what you click in social media. But 161 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:38.800 it was interesting to come across this specifically because for me, 162 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:42.879 and being so involved heavily with social media sets, it's 163 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:45.439 on set. It is something that you know, and the 164 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:47.879 jokes are always there with a meme, you know, the 165 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:50.240 thirtieth of the month, it's this color and then it 166 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:52.120 goes to a different color. For me with being a 167 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:55.800 queer person, it is the rainbow that happens for June 168 00:07:55.839 --> 00:08:01.000 every year because that's that well, because that is LGBTQ 169 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:04.480 History month. But it is always wild to me because 170 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:07.519 the thing that for me that I've always pushed on 171 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:11.519 the show period is supporting small business anyway and really 172 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:14.360 leaning into that. But it was something that we had 173 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:17.480 always had the Minnesota nice attitude with Target, and that 174 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:21.079 was the brand that allegedly really had put themselves out 175 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:23.959 there to be in support of minority groups and lean 176 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:27.920 into AAPI and to black history and to LGBTQ. So 177 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:32.519 the thing that I want to do is, you know, 178 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:34.679 again add to the awareness of it. But as I 179 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:36.879 always like to do, I like to bring things to 180 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:41.840 the show. So how can you make yourself, you know, 181 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:44.000 a part of it if you so choose, yes, go 182 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:45.080 for me. 183 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.440 It's real simple. It has to be more than a hashtag. 184 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:50.600 It has to be more than a day, and it 185 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:53.519 has to be about more than just awareness. It has 186 00:08:53.559 --> 00:08:56.240 to be about Hey, we're not going to shop at 187 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:58.720 these businesses, and this is true of any protests to 188 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:01.440 insert your cause does matter. We're not going to shop 189 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:06.639 at these locations until correct dot dot and it's open ended. 190 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:10.320 And then after a quarter of lost revenue, you may 191 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:13.759 see businesses start changing their tune because ultimately they care 192 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.600 about the American dollar and their bottom line more than 193 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:20.360 anything in the world. They will sell Girl Scout cookies 194 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.639 if that's what you're all asking for and demanded of them. 195 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:26.600 But if you think that staying home per se one 196 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.000 day is going to change their stance on any issue, 197 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.240 absolutely not. It would never happen. 198 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:37.279 Right, So let's look at how we can support other businesses. 199 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:41.360 No, I'm saying, if you want to say we shouldn't 200 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:44.559 shop here or there anymore and only shop small, which 201 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:48.080 we hear on varying levels each year, correct by all means. 202 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:52.399 But if you are sharing this with people, with them 203 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:55.240 thinking that they're going to have an impact or there 204 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:58.879 might be a change on the other side, I would 205 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.039 not want you to lie to them, because I'm telling 206 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.240 you it's not going to yield anything close to that 207 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:06.279 type of result. We all know about quote unquote the 208 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.559 fight regarding DBI. We all know that the different retailers 209 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:14.360 that you mentioned have pulled back and that has left 210 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:16.919 people feeling some kind of way. The only way that 211 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:19.039 you're going to get them to change is to feel 212 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:23.399 the same economic pressure which was placed upon them by 213 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:27.159 the federal government. And if you can't meet that same 214 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:30.440 level of pressure, and they've already had the meetings and 215 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:33.240 they've already gained plan on how long they feel that 216 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.120 people are going to be protesting or mad, and they 217 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:38.360 feel that they can outlast you. And that's why they've 218 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:41.440 made this decision at least for now, because they got 219 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:43.919 to deal with the federal government for the next four years. 220 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:46.440 Then they only have to deal with people screaming and 221 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:48.000 shouting for the next four weeks. 222 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:48.960 And that's right. 223 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:51.840 And I think that's the thing specific to this, because 224 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:55.080 if you take it even one step further, it's if 225 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:59.200 we all need these retailers, there's no question about it. Then, 226 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:01.919 as you said, trying to be able to do a 227 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:05.039 long game on this, it's real hard not to go 228 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:07.360 to Walmart and Target. It's real hard not to go 229 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:09.519 and make because the convenience of our lives, right. 230 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:11.120 You're not gonna go to Amazon. You're not gonna go 231 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:13.399 to Target. But you're not gonna go to Amazon. Correct, 232 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:14.799 you're not gonna go to Walmart. 233 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:17.440 Well, and the best part is with Amazon because people 234 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:20.279 never see it. That's the thing, because that gets delivered 235 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:22.240 to your home, so you can feel real good about 236 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:25.519 yourself because it's no one's ever seeing that, as opposed 237 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:27.360 to I'm not going to walk into a Target or Walmart. 238 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:31.240 So the idea is beyond what's coming on Friday, and 239 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:34.720 if you so choose to participate in it, that's great, 240 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.399 But it's how do you spend your money at these retailers? 241 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:38.320 Is what I'm looking at. 242 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:40.759 So I want to look at some small businesses that 243 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:43.440 are because the point is we have people. You have 244 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:45.440 people that you care about, as do I who work 245 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:48.679 at these places that need the job. So this isn't 246 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:51.519 saying you know, I understand we're all doing that walkout 247 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:55.159 to make a point or try to feel good about ourselves, 248 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:57.799 but how can we be smarter about spending those dollars? 249 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:00.960 I have some thoughts about that. Sharing when we come back, 250 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:01.519 please do. 251 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:06.000 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 252 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:07.960 KFI AM six forty. 253 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:11.480 Mo Kelly, Nick polo'chinny. We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio 254 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:14.559 app and we have a different sounding conversation tonight is 255 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:18.799 Nick polo'channey is telling us about this economic boycott in 256 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:23.440 the name of the DEI anti DEI stances taken on 257 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:28.720 by Target and other Walmart, other big box retailers, and 258 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.200 there's an economic boycott schedule for this Friday. I've taken 259 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.919 this stance. It's not going to have an economic impact. 260 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:39.279 And if you're trying to do anything beyond awareness, I 261 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.320 think you're respectfully wasting everyone's time. Everyone's aware of it, 262 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.120 but if they're not going to be pushed to the 263 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:48.799 point they being the retailers pushed to the point that 264 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:53.120 they would make a change, I don't know the purpose 265 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:53.440 of it. 266 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:55.120 And let me add one thing before I turn it 267 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:55.919 back over to you, Nick. 268 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:59.320 Sure, when you talk about awareness, part of that has 269 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:02.480 to be an edge education process of the general public. 270 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:06.480 And in terms of the DEI discussion, people for the 271 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:10.320 most part, and I know people listening right now are 272 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:15.320 misinformed as to what it is. Diversity, equity and inclusion 273 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:19.120 is not affirmative action, correct, And I hear it again 274 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:21.039 and again, and if you keep saying it, I'll tell 275 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:24.480 you you're wrong every time you say it. Think of diversity, equity, 276 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:29.799 inclusion as you will expand your reach and also where 277 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:34.679 you are looking for qualified, equally qualified individuals. Let's say 278 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:36.600 that you are pilots, and this is a real example. 279 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:39.919 Let's say you're recruiting for pilots for American airlines. You 280 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:44.759 would also have representatives which will go to the HBCUs, 281 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:48.919 the historically black colleges and universities and recruit from those 282 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:54.799 stem places and also invite them to test and become pilots. 283 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:58.960 You're not choosing people of color, or who are women, 284 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:03.440 or who are GBTQ on the status of them being 285 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:08.240 checking those boxes and they're also underqualified or less qualified. 286 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:09.720 That is a lie. 287 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:13.679 So when I say to you, awareness, there has to 288 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:16.919 be a component as far as educating people to. 289 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:20.480 What it is not it's just what you want. 290 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:22.879 Right, And I think for that specific thing to take 291 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.840 it even very close to home here at KFI. Last year, 292 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:30.039 Steve Gregory, who used to work here myself, and Jacob 293 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:34.320 Gonzales won an Edward R. More Award for the Regional 294 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:38.679 and National, one of the most Illustrious Awards within Media. 295 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:41.159 Congratulations once again, well thanks your thank you. 296 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:44.879 But the point is we literally won in the category 297 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:50.240 of DEI Diversity, Equity and Inclusion, and it had to 298 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:54.600 do with everything you've described of how educating people is 299 00:14:54.679 --> 00:15:00.000 and how what it involves outside of this box being checked, 300 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:02.879 because it affects people at the end of the day, 301 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:05.000 It affects lives at the end of the day, and 302 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:07.679 you know, it affects livelihoods at the end of the day. 303 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:12.279 So that's something that we have even done here specifically 304 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:15.360 on KFI with a two hour special and a nine 305 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.759 episode podcast series, and we're acknowledged for it. 306 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:23.159 But unfortunately it has been distorted, it has been misused, 307 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:26.519 it has been appropriated, has been used to malign people 308 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:31.080 as a slur and pejorative. We see it whenever there's 309 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:34.919 an airline almost incident or an actual incident, including today, 310 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:37.639 and they say, oh, there's another DEI incident in the 311 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:41.320 air today, making the assumption that not only the incident 312 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:46.000 was because of someone other than a white cis male, correct, 313 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:49.159 but because that someone was either a woman and that 314 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:54.120 person was responsible for that incident and was lesser qualified 315 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:57.519 and chosen instead of that white cis male, right. 316 00:15:57.519 --> 00:15:59.240 And the funnier part of that whole scenario is I 317 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:02.360 am a white sin it's mail and I'm also queer, 318 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:07.480 so I hit the DEI box. But there's you and 319 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:10.440 I walk into a business, you see a white man 320 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:15.320 and a black man. That's we've encountered it and specifically 321 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:18.120 not to see my emails, right. And I think that 322 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:22.200 it's in this moment that we have an opportunity again 323 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:24.240 to educate and bring awareness to something. 324 00:16:24.360 --> 00:16:26.039 And I agree with you, and that's why I use 325 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:28.240 this platform because I want to raise the caliber of 326 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:31.480 the conversation absolutely, and part of that is disabusing people 327 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:34.879 of their ignorant notions exactly. And when it comes to DEI, 328 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:38.840 if you want to change the tenor and direction of 329 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:42.080 that conversation, that it has to be more to me, 330 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:43.960 I agree with it. 331 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:45.200 It has to be more than. 332 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:49.000 We need to put pressure on Target and Walmart and 333 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:51.799 Amazon to say we want this. There has to be 334 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:56.720 a wider educational component so people understand not only what 335 00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:59.279 you're fighting for, but why you're fighting for it, and 336 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:02.559 also why you're against it is actually not what you 337 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:04.599 are against, in other words, what you think you're against 338 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:05.559 is not even. 339 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:06.039 What it is. 340 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:08.279 If I had a nickel for every time I had 341 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:10.559 to explain the folks that you don't know what the 342 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:12.240 frick you're talking about. 343 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:15.559 And I think that's it, because we're giving gravity and 344 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:19.119 air to something that doesn't get talked about specifically. And 345 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:24.480 the challenge is we live in the fifteen second moment anymore. 346 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:28.079 So wherever the algorithms of your social media take you, 347 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:33.319 that's the lens within your only thing you're seeing. And 348 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:36.599 that's what kills me because again, that is where I 349 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.720 have spent a lot of my time, you know, when 350 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:40.920 I was an iHeart an employee and supporting the brand 351 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:45.200 here that I was able to really see how that 352 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:50.759 curation through technology really changes the definition and really changes 353 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:51.839 the perception of something. 354 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:52.839 Let me ask you a quick question. 355 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:54.440 Sure, break, we're going to carry this over to the 356 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:57.000 next segment, but this I think is going to highlight 357 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:00.000 what I mean after the economic boycott. In other words, 358 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:04.000 there's Friday the twenty eighth, what happens on March first. 359 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:06.839 Yeah, it's again like we joked about it, but I say, 360 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:09.440 that's my point and I think that's the hardest part. 361 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:11.720 So again and we'll talk about this after the break, 362 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:14.759 but it's how do you take your dollars and how 363 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:19.599 do you better choose what you're doing, choose where you're 364 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:20.240 spending them. 365 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:22.640 Oh, I got an answer to that. It's very easy. 366 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:25.440 That has to be mapped out before you have the econom. 367 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:29.000 And you have to have done so much homework and research, 368 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:31.680 and thankfully there's a good amount of that done. 369 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:35.440 But it is because it's easier to just see the 370 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:39.759 not dismissing or just did It's easy to say, oh, 371 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:41.359 there's an economic boycott on Friday. 372 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:43.200 Sure I won't buy anything on Friday. 373 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:44.839 And they don't have to think about it beyond it, 374 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:48.160 because in their mind they've actually accomplished something. They've done something. 375 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:50.599 They put up a hashtager that they shared a post 376 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:53.119 and they didn't spend any money at Amazon, and then 377 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:55.480 they go home and feel like, see, I've contributed to 378 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:56.160 the cause, when. 379 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:59.039 Those mother fathers have not. They haven't done anything. They're lazy. 380 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:01.359 If they actually studied civil rights movement, they would know 381 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:04.559 that there's a commitment not only weeks, months, most likely 382 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:08.400 years as in plural and then not only does a 383 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:11.519 country change, but capitalism would change and you'd have the 384 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:13.960 desired result. But you know, in this country, when the 385 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:15.960 social media, they move on after a week or so. 386 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:19.480 And my point to you is Saturday is going to 387 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:22.079 come and people will have moved on because they will 388 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:24.160 have thought they would have done something, and they would 389 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:27.319 have not done anything. They would not have educated the masses, 390 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:30.480 they will not have provided any really economic pressure on 391 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.480 the entities that they want to pressure, and then nothing 392 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:36.640 has been gained. And that's what frustrates me because you 393 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:39.519 may as a group may be well intentioned, but it's 394 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:41.599 poorly executed and poorly planned. 395 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:43.680 Right, we'll have more just moment. 396 00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:45.960 It's Later with mo' kelly KFIM six forty were live 397 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:47.200 everywhere the i heeartradio app. 398 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:51.279 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 399 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:54.319 KFI AM six forty KFI. 400 00:19:54.440 --> 00:19:57.519 Mister mo' kelly and Nick Caliochinni still as we're both 401 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:00.640