WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.960 Oh, come into a Clippers Talk Live after we had 2 00:00:05.719 --> 00:00:09.320 two kind of two different postgame shows last night after 3 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:12.759 the Clippers lost by one to the Golden State Warriors, 4 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:15.439 and I thought I would just be resting my voice today, 5 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:17.679 but we had a little bit of news here. You 6 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:20.480 see it in the title. I'll get to it here 7 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:24.039 in a second, which you want to get out the particulars. 8 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:29.920 I'm Oudame Osland. This is your Clippers Talk YouTube side 9 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:32.880 channel where when there's breaking news, even if you don't 10 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:35.359 think it amounts to much, I will be here to 11 00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:40.000 talk about it as I am right now. Because there 12 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:42.359 was something regarding PJ. Tucker that just came out a 13 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:46.000 little bit ago, and I thought even on an NFL Sunday, 14 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:49.479 we could talk about it a little bit here on 15 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:55.079 a Clippers Talk Live for you again. Two postgame shows 16 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:58.240 that you can watch on the video section from last 17 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:01.719 night on YouTube, and if you guys are in here 18 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.880 on the chat, let me know that you can hear 19 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:08.640 me or not. I would appreciate that. But I saw 20 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:13.480 this just a bit ag from Justin Rousseau and it 21 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:17.920 said this, The LA Clippers released a statement regarding PJ. 22 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:24.280 Tucker quote. We've had ongoing conversations with PJ throughout the 23 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:27.840 off season, and have both decided that he won't be 24 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:31.840 with the team for the time being. PJ is a pro, 25 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:35.079 has achieved a lot in his career, and there's more 26 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:38.439 he wants to accomplish. We will continue working with PJ 27 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:43.200 and his representatives to find the best situation for him 28 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:50.719 moving forward. Sal says, Audio's PJ. I'm guessing he can 29 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:55.159 hear me. Now. If you've been listening to me throughout 30 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:58.760 this entire summer here on Clippers Talk, you will know 31 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:04.159 that probably in half the shows I did with reporters 32 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:08.759 for the Clippers, Law Murray, Justin Russo. As I mentioned earlier, Rousseau, 33 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:15.240 the guys from the lob of the Jam the podcast, 34 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:22.000 I would ask them, what do you think happens with 35 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:25.280 PJ and Bones? Are they going to be at training camp? 36 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:29.240 Are they going to show up to training camp? Well, 37 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:35.039 I've seen Bones Highland there. I've seen Bones in some 38 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:40.400 of the clips playing scrimmaging. I know he's there at 39 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:47.719 training camp. I haven't seen PJ Tucker there yet, and 40 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:51.599 that's interesting to me. I haven't seen a clip of him. 41 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:55.280 I didn't see him at Media day and I asked 42 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:59.719 Carlo Jimenez about this, who was in Hawaii now on 43 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:02.240 his way back as the Clippers have a game in 44 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:08.240 San Diego that will be on Tuesday night in their 45 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:13.159 new G League facility in Ocean Side. As Jordan Zumwalt says, wait, 46 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:18.039 why wait, why why are we doing this Clippers talk? Well, 47 00:03:18.120 --> 00:03:19.639 just a little bit of a reset for the people 48 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:22.960 getting in here. I know this was spur of the moment. 49 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:27.800 Didn't know I'd be talking about this either, But PJ. 50 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:31.960 Tucker is currently not with the team for the time 51 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:37.840 being because he and the Clippers have mutually agreed that 52 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:41.520 the thirteen year NBA veteran will be away from the 53 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:46.199 team as both sides work towards a resolution for his future. 54 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.879 It's interesting. I appreciate you guys getting in here on 55 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:55.280 Clippers Talk, if you've got questions, if you've got trade 56 00:03:55.400 --> 00:04:01.199 ideas currently, because it looks like that's where things are heading. 57 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:05.000 The Clippers have said we will continue working with PJ 58 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:09.319 and and his representative to find the best situation for 59 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:14.199 him moving forward. I wondered if this was going to 60 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.040 be an issue, if this was going to be a problem. 61 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:20.000 I've talked about it all off season. It was a problem. 62 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:24.079 After he didn't get traded the All Star break, he 63 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:28.160 was sent home, as was Bones Highland. Both those guys 64 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:34.040 basically for I don't know, insubordination, conduct, detrimental to the team, 65 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:36.879 I forget, whatever they call it. They were disgruntled, they 66 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:40.800 were unhappy that they weren't traded and moved at the deadline, 67 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:45.120 and so the Clippers sent him home. They couldn't find 68 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:48.560 trade partners for them. They tried, they couldn't. They couldn't 69 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:50.600 find anything that would be in the best interest of 70 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:55.000 the Clippers, so they sent them home. That was at 71 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:59.720 the All Star break. Now, as we are just a 72 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:03.000 couple weeks away from the season starting October twenty third, 73 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:09.879 add into it, Dome PJ. Tucker is not going to 74 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:13.360 be around the ball club. And again I didn't see 75 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:16.680 him at training camp in Hawaii in any of the pictures. 76 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:20.959 Doesn't mean he wasn't there. I thought he was. That 77 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:23.399 they had twenty one guys there and he was a 78 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:27.839 part of that. So if anyone has confirmation on that, 79 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:30.319 you can let me know. But it's really of no 80 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:34.600 consequence now because he's going to be away from the team. 81 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:38.480 If you're just coming in. The statement from the Clippers 82 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:42.000 is quote, We've had ongoing conversations with PJ throughout the 83 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:45.120 offseason and have both decided that he won't be with 84 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.920 the team for the time being. PJ is a pro 85 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.399 who has achieved a lot in his career, and there's 86 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:53.519 more he wants to accomplish. We will continue working with 87 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.560 PJ and his representative to find the best situation for 88 00:05:56.639 --> 00:06:02.000 him moving forward. This is why I'm here. Amina Sean 89 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:05.800 has said, wait, PJ wants out. PJ has wanted out, 90 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:10.279 He wanted out the All Star break. I find this 91 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:14.519 very disappointing, only because they gave him multiple chances last year. 92 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:21.560 Now he's thirty nine and he still apparently wants to 93 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:25.720 be on a contender, thinks he can contribute, even though 94 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:29.879 we saw from him last year it really wasn't working. 95 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:35.639 He wasn't taking threes anymore. His patented corner three wasn't there, 96 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:44.040 wasn't taking it, had very low confidence, and the Clippers 97 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:46.560 still gave him all the opportunities in the world. When 98 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:48.480 he first got here. I remember he played that first 99 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:55.120 game against Los Angeles Lakers. Didn't look good, but they 100 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:59.319 gave him a fair shot. They really did. They went 101 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:02.800 above and beyond on to see what PJ Tucker had left. 102 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:06.680 He started. I don't know if you guys remember this 103 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:09.439 the final game of the season, Game six, in that 104 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:12.240 playoff series against the Dallas Mavericks in a must win situation. 105 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:16.480 PJ got to start that didn't look good. It was 106 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:23.079 like a minus ten in the first half. Clippers overall 107 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:26.279 weren't very good. It wasn't just him, but he wasn't 108 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:32.319 exactly helping. And if you know me, you know that 109 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:36.120 I've actually been a big fan of PJ. I thought 110 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:38.879 he had utility when he came to this team. I 111 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:46.360 felt like PJ. Tucker in very specific situations against the 112 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.279 right opponent, the right big for a few minutes here 113 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:53.319 and there, a few minutes, he could help this team 114 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:58.079 against Jokics for a second that first contest, I think 115 00:07:58.120 --> 00:07:59.759 in Denver they threw him out there and he played 116 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:02.839 okay against him. I had seen it before with him 117 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:06.759 in Philly play. Jokics pretty well was physical with him 118 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:09.639 in just a few minutes. He did that with the 119 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:15.040 Clippers against Zion. Same thing. But that is very much 120 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:18.680 a specialist type of player. That is a guy who 121 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:25.399 could see minutes once a week during their long regular season. PJ. 122 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:30.199 Tucker still believes he's much more than that in this league. 123 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:35.000 And to be fair, the seventy six Ers were starting him. 124 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:39.799 The Philadelphia seventy six Ers were giving him twenty two 125 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:42.320 minutes a night in those first three games last season 126 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:47.799 before he was traded to the Clippers. When he was traded, 127 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:52.000 he let it be known that he didn't sign up 128 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:57.159 for this, that he was going to every news in 129 00:08:57.480 --> 00:09:03.080 media outlet to let them know that he didn't want 130 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.000 to be with the Clippers. I'm not so sure the 131 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:09.840 Clippers were trading for him. I think it was about 132 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:15.399 getting James Harden. I think that was pretty clear. And PJ. 133 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:22.559 Tucker was fined seventy five grand last season by the 134 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:26.799 NBA for expressing the desire to be traded before the 135 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:35.759 trade deadline. Remember, he was sent home. He wasn't exactly 136 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:41.200 being a good vet to the squad because it seemed 137 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.200 like Bones Highland also started to pick up on the 138 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:48.240 bad vibes with him, and he was sent home too. 139 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:50.080 He wanted to be traded. He won more playing time. 140 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:51.720 He thought he was gonna be the backup point guard. 141 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:54.279 I get it, but then they brought in James Harden. 142 00:09:54.720 --> 00:10:00.840 It changed rotations, and now the Clippers PJ. Tucker are 143 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:03.559 still trying to figure out a deal something that works 144 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:09.559 for both sides. Is that possible? Can the Clippers get 145 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:13.080 something for him? They don't want to have to use 146 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:18.399 the stretch provision I'm guessing, which means you wave a 147 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:23.360 guy and divide up his salary over three years, so 148 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:26.000 it'd be a little bit over three million per year 149 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:29.399 that the Clippers would be paying out and would count 150 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:37.039 against their cap. People are speculating if Kelly Olinok could 151 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:42.080 be a guy they could get for him. Kaleolinox probably 152 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:48.000 too good of a player. He got twelve points per 153 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:50.279 game when he was traded to Toronto last season. I 154 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:53.320 know that was somebody on the wish list for Clipper Nation. 155 00:10:54.600 --> 00:11:01.399 Would have been nice, didn't end up happening. Kelly Olinok 156 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:04.559 is known for being a bit of a stretch big, 157 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:10.519 a solid passer can pass out of the high post. 158 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:16.759 Why would they give him up for PJ. Tucker to 159 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:22.759 bring him back to Toronto? How is that an upgrade 160 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:27.559 for them? I think the salary would work, but there's 161 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:32.159 no reason for the Raptors to do that. Unfortunately, what's 162 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.399 the logic? Give me the rationale. Yeah, he's making twelve 163 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:38.480 million this season. The only thing I could see is, 164 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:40.879 and I'll use this to make a point about another 165 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:44.679 player too, is that Olynic is paid through not just 166 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:48.360 this year but next year twelve million, about almost thirteen 167 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:51.720 million this year Toronto Raptor Zoham at the age of 168 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:55.000 thirty three, and then about thirteen and a half next year, 169 00:11:55.679 --> 00:12:01.639 a twenty five to twenty sixth season, So they could 170 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:07.279 see it as getting out from that contract next season. Maybe. 171 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:12.039 I don't know. They're in kind of a weird stage 172 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:16.559 where they're rebuilding but trying to stay competitive. The Raptors. 173 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:20.720 You know, they brought Inn RJ. Barrett himid that trade 174 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:29.080 with the Knicks last season, Massiu Jerry really good GM. 175 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:32.080 But I don't know if they have a clear cut direction, 176 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:35.120 and I don't know if Kelly Olenok giving him up 177 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:37.679 for PJ. Tucker would make a lot of sense. I 178 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:39.360 just think even if they wanted to give him up 179 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.039 and get out of that second year of the contract, 180 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:45.639 they could probably get more for him. One guy would 181 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:49.360 bring up, and I don't know how realistic this is, 182 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.600 but we've talked about it this offseason. Is Grant Williams. 183 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:00.639 He's currently with the Charlotte Hornets now. He has three 184 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:04.000 years left on his deal at around thirteen million dollars. 185 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:11.639 Grant Williams similar in his attitude and toughness to a 186 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:18.240 guy like PJ. Tucker, but he's much younger. He's not 187 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:22.879 even thirty yet. He's going to be twenty six this season. 188 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:27.200 I really liked him with Boston. I don't know how 189 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:32.120 you guys felt about Grant Williams, but I was a 190 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:35.519 fan in Boston. Now they played a lot of positionless basketball, 191 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:37.559 and then he ended up signing that deal with the 192 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:41.679 Dallas Mavericks that he's on right now. I'm guessing they 193 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:45.039 signed him to the non taxpayer mid level exception. Things 194 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:50.159 didn't work out, they moved him. They made a great trade. 195 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:57.879 They brought in PJ. Washington and Grant Williams is now 196 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:00.360 a member of the Charlotte Hornets. Who don't know are 197 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:02.759 they going anywhere? Can they be a playing team this season? 198 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:07.000 If they have LaMelo, if they have a little bit 199 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:10.440 of hope, and I think they need a season where 200 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:14.759 they just show something. They have Miles Bridges, they have 201 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:18.720 some talent there, if LaMelo can stay healthy, Brandon Miller 202 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:26.320 high draft pick, we have Josh Green now. I think 203 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:33.039 he was included in that trade, But I like Grant Williams. 204 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.240 I don't know how you guys view him if he 205 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:38.840 could play power forward for the Clippers. Since that's another 206 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:42.080 conversation here with what we heard from Kawhi Leonard last 207 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:46.759 night talking about how many miles he ran and was 208 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.039 probably top five or top ten, and miles ran last 209 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:53.519 season playing the power forward position, couldn't really tell if 210 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:58.840 he was trying to angle for the Clippers bringing in 211 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:00.600 a power forward or if he he was just saying, 212 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:02.360 it is what it is, type of thing I'm going 213 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:04.919 to be playing the power forward. I didn't take it 214 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:09.039 as him complaining about it. I didn't because he was 215 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:12.720 pretty upfront when Law asked him about that question. Kin 216 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:15.679 just said, yeah, who was the power forward last year? 217 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:20.120 It was me. He did mention, though, is it beneficial 218 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:24.600 because of all the wear and tear. If he's saying 219 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:28.440 it's more physical to be playing the power forward position, 220 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.600 is that something the Clippers are looking at right now? 221 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:35.320 You have to ask yourself that people in here are 222 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:38.559 saying Jordan Zumwalt saying he's not good enough of a 223 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:44.120 player to request a trade. Honestly, that's fair. He's not. 224 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.440 He didn't prove that at all last season with the Clippers, 225 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:55.399 and I find the whole situation disappointing him not being 226 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:58.159 with the team moving forward. I thought at this point 227 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:02.159 in his career he'd be a good vet and even 228 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:05.919 though his skills had diminished, he would be Donna's hasl 229 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:12.080 maybe and you know, be a cheerleader on the bench 230 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:16.960 and helps your on guys and support guys and still 231 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:19.879 be a source of toughness like Eudonnas Haslm was with 232 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.279 Miami Heat for so long because of his reputation, the 233 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:26.759 way guys take to his teaching, and you know, he 234 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:28.759 would even get into it with guys. I think he 235 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:32.879 and Jimmy Butler had a conversation before that got really heated. 236 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:36.320 But they respect him, and I think PJ. Tucker would 237 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.600 have that respect if he wanted that role. But apparently 238 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:42.960 he thinks he can still play. Okay, great. My point 239 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:50.000 would have been this, PJ. Tucker could have not opted 240 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:53.720 into this last year of his contract. He didn't have to. 241 00:16:55.240 --> 00:17:00.600 You can say, but Adam is that realistic. You didn't 242 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:02.159 think he was going to opt into eleven and a 243 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:06.039 half million dollars or no. I thought he would of course, 244 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:11.079 But it's kind of having your cake and want to 245 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:19.480 eat it too. You want the eleven point five million 246 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:22.319 dollars that you opt into, but now you want to 247 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:26.119 dictate where you want to play for that contract as well. 248 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:32.599 That's what got me a little bit confused with PJ. Tucker, Like, 249 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:34.839 if you opt in, you don't have a say and 250 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:38.680 where you're going to play. You could have not opted 251 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:41.599 in and had been a free agent. It had gone 252 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:46.200 wherever you wanted. Now you want the Clippers to have 253 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:50.359 to send you somewhere that that can be a little 254 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.319 bit frustrating. That can be a little bit disappointing. Big 255 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:55.640 r R sixty four sos. The Clippers would probably love 256 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:57.920 to trade PG. Problem is he's just a negative asset. 257 00:17:57.960 --> 00:17:59.680 You're going to have to include something to get rid 258 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:08.079 of him. It's not a bad point. So if you're 259 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:12.599 saying that guy the most obvious player is bones, does 260 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:17.759 that sweeten the deal for anyone? Does that make someone go? Okay, well, 261 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:21.759 it'll take PJ. On it's an expiring contract to get 262 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:26.880 bones Highland. We're into that. Who's that team? And do 263 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:29.160 you still have to include a second round pick? Do 264 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:31.359 you have to try to include a first round pick? 265 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:33.960 I mean, that's something I don't think the Clippers would do. 266 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:37.039 It's a non starter. Obviously, it would depend on who 267 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:39.599 they're getting back, but you'd expect something really good in 268 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:43.559 that scenario. But they have one they can trade. They're 269 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:49.759 twenty thirty. I believe it's gonna be difficult to get 270 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:53.599 this trade done. I think it'll happen at some point, 271 00:18:54.119 --> 00:18:56.440 but I don't know how long this is gonna take. 272 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:58.480 Mark Jaggs says PJ is not good enough to be 273 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:02.160 making all these demands. Amina Sean says PJ should be 274 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:05.759 grateful that he's on a team. Miss says Haslam is 275 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:10.000 still at training camp practicing this year. He plays in practice. 276 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:15.240 I know he's kind of a player's coach. Now. He 277 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:19.000 had tenure with the Miami Heat, and that's where he 278 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:22.599 played I think his entire career and was a legacy 279 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:24.960 guy there, and it would be different for PJ. Tucker. 280 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:27.160 But the point still remains. It would have been nice 281 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:30.680 to see him adopt that veteran role and cheer on 282 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:33.599 guys and point out things from the bench that they 283 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:38.200 could do better, and it's still his toughness from the 284 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:41.440 bench mark. Jack says, might as well wave him because 285 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:46.920 he's a bad juju is affecting the team. Yeah, I 286 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:49.759 don't know how that would work with the salary CAF 287 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:52.799 if they could just wave him and pay the entire thing, 288 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:57.599 if anybody has an understanding on that, because they don't 289 00:19:57.599 --> 00:20:00.319 want to do the stretch provision. They do not want 290 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:02.480 to do the stretch provision because even though it's just 291 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:05.960 three million dollars over this year, next year, in the 292 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:08.519 year after, that's still three million more dollars on the 293 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:10.279 cap for a guy that's not even on your team. 294 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:15.240 It hurts Big R R sixty four says, exactly, A 295 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:17.799 meed he's lucky he's even in the league. He should 296 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:22.960 be grateful and be a team leader. That's not the 297 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:25.279 case apparently, I mean, and Shaan says, I'm tired of 298 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:30.160 this guy wanting. Chris Gomez says, yeah, I got you 299 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:33.160 about Olennok was thinking him or Larry Nance, both those 300 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:38.079 guys I think are unrealistic. Nobody's trading those guys for PJ. Tucker. 301 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:42.920 I like them both. Don't get me wrong. When we 302 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:47.240 look at Larry Dance Junior's contract, it's in the ballpark 303 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:52.160 money wise. It works. He's making eleven million two, but 304 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:55.000 he's in the last year of it that he's an 305 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:58.519 unrestricted free agent Atlanta. The fact is they can just 306 00:20:58.559 --> 00:21:02.319 get more for him than that they can. Larni Jr. 307 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:04.480 Is a nice player. That's a really good asset for them. 308 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:07.759 Tim Kirk said, love your interview with the great Ralph Lawler. 309 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:11.400 Do you think Ralph and Mike Smith will ever reconcile 310 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:14.720 the relationship. I'm not speaking about anybody else's relationship here. 311 00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:20.599 Tim Kirk also says PJ is not an NBA player anymore. 312 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:27.880 If he has utility, it's in very very specific parameters, 313 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:33.599 very specific. We're talking about a couple minutes here and 314 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:36.880 there against the right opponent like Jokic. Believe it or not, 315 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:40.400 he's been pretty good against him or Zion because of 316 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:44.960 his big body physicality out there. Yeah, he picks up vowels, 317 00:21:46.119 --> 00:21:49.400 So some of it is just, you know, hack a 318 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:53.720 shaft type stuff. But I think that change of pace 319 00:21:54.039 --> 00:22:00.480 could be valuable maybe for a team I'd I don't know. 320 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:03.240 It's hard for guys to come to grips with their 321 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:09.880 sports mortality and when their career is ending, it's really difficult. 322 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:13.319 Maybe Pj's having trouble with that, or maybe he does 323 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.680 have a role somewhere and he can be a productive 324 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:22.839 player still at the age of thirty nine in ten 325 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:26.799 minutes a night. I don't know. The Clippers, though, more 326 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:30.039 than gave him a shot last season, and he wasn't 327 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:33.799 taking shots for the most part, was turning down threes, 328 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:36.519 was scared to take those corner threes. It looked like 329 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:40.720 just didn't have the confidence there. And for a player 330 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:42.880 I really liked it. I think could be a championship 331 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:46.160 level role player in his prime and did win with 332 00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:49.759 the Milwaukee Bucks. Like I was happy to see the 333 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:53.119 Clippers get him in the trade deal, but then seeing 334 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:55.960 him out there, it just you could see the skills 335 00:22:55.960 --> 00:23:02.640 have diminished. He's much older. It can go quickly sometimes 336 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:05.759 that ring in Milwaukee was just a few years ago, 337 00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:12.000 but it can go quick. Gicon says, hopefully Lawrence can 338 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:15.799 get something done. We'll see big r R sixty four 339 00:23:16.440 --> 00:23:19.039 and PJ is definitely hurting his value by complaining all 340 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:22.319 the time. Other teams see they don't want that on 341 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:27.359 their roster either. Maybe like if you trade for him, 342 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:29.119 you better have a role or else he's going to 343 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:31.759 one out, I guess, because that's what we've seen with 344 00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:36.079 the Clippers, and he will make it known to those 345 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:42.039 who register and whoever is listening different publications. He complained 346 00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:47.640 to right away. With the Clippers, it was strange to 347 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:53.839 see you just got here. And I'll bring up some 348 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:59.759 of the quotes if I can. This was when they 349 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:04.240 first got him. Ah, pay Wall's killing me. I can't 350 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:10.599 get behind it right now. But he was disgrestled over 351 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:13.640 his lack of playing time, and even though he was 352 00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:16.519 given an opportunity, he didn't look good. The minutes with 353 00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:19.160 him next to a viat Zubas playing power forward were 354 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:25.279 unbelievably bad. The net rating was horrific. Amina Sean says, 355 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:28.599 Houston Tucker was different too, but PJ is washed now. 356 00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:34.160 Houston Tucker was really good, Guys, really really good. That 357 00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:37.200 was a player. That was a guy, a modern NBA 358 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:41.240 player that I would love. Luis Lemmas says, get rid 359 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:45.720 of him and sign Tres. They can't trade him to 360 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.519 an international team that Tres is on. Unfortunately, it's not 361 00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:51.799 how it works. They gotta trade him to an NBA team. 362 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:54.319 Tim Kirk says, who will get most minutes at backup 363 00:24:54.359 --> 00:25:00.839 center this year? I think it is Mobomba right now, guys. 364 00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:03.640 I did a Clippers after Dark last night. I'm trying 365 00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:05.920 to say my voice by the way, I didn't think 366 00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:08.359 I'd be doing this today, but I did a Clippers 367 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:10.200 after Dark where after we went off the air on 368 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:12.519 the radio side, and maybe I'll do this throughout the season. 369 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:15.440 We were on the Patriot AM eleven fifty programming note 370 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:17.599 when the Dodgers are on A five seventy, LA Sports 371 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:22.279 will be on the Patriot AM eleven fifty. But the 372 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:24.160 show was over on the radio side that I kept 373 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:26.799 it going called it Clippers after Dark. I talked a 374 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:29.680 lot about kai Jones. I thought he struggled last night. 375 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:32.759 I didn't want to be overly harsh with it, but 376 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:34.759 some of the comments were, so I tried to cut 377 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:39.440 some of those out. It just was, I don't know, 378 00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:44.960 uh mean spirited some of it. But I want to 379 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:48.240 be positive about a young player. Well, I know a 380 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:53.720 lot of people were really high on and the expectations 381 00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:57.960 are unrealistic to some degree. Some of the Kai Jones people, 382 00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:00.720 and look, I'm rooting for him. I want him to 383 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:04.000 get that two way contract, but I think he's got 384 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:08.319 to play in the G League right now. He needs 385 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:12.200 to develop. He just didn't look comfortable out there. Maybe 386 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:15.799 it's just not playing at this level in a while, 387 00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:19.720 even though it's just preseason. Could say the same about KPJ. 388 00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:23.480 But Kayle Jones. You know, the first time he tested 389 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:26.039 the basketball, he had his foot out of bounds. Just 390 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:29.920 the spacing wasn't there. Just everything was moving too fast 391 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:33.519 for him. So I think Mobamba is the guy right now, 392 00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:36.519 and hopefully he's available on Tuesday. He's been nursing a 393 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:38.680 knee injury. I don't think it's major. I saw him 394 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:42.200 do walk through stuff in training camp, so I'm not 395 00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:47.039 overly concerned yet. Tim Kirks says, are we giving backup 396 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:51.480 on bones yet? That Bones looked okay last night, got 397 00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:54.559 put in some tough positions. But you know, I'm a 398 00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:57.400 huge Bones Highland fan. I just believe that when he 399 00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:02.119 brought in Chris Dunn, when you brought in KPJ, that 400 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:06.480 kind of telegraphed part of what they thought about Bones, 401 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:09.240