Speaker 1: Hmm, what's up? Ding Dongs?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 3: Hello, I am Kelly Sanctimonious, blue collar bullshit Keene.
Speaker 2: I am Jazzy Donna and Henry Sextruther Dodson. I love
Speaker 2: I convince me otherwise. Oh my god, it happened. Let
Speaker 2: me tell you. I'm a cannon.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. Since we got the screeners for
Speaker 1: this episode.
Speaker 3: I've been waiting eagerly to use sanctimonious blue Collar.
Speaker 2: Waiting.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to I want to use it now.
Speaker 2: What a perfect drag of Jim. Yeah, glorious.
Speaker 3: So welcome Erica and LP Punk. Glad to see you
Speaker 3: both here. Invite your friends because if we get enough
Speaker 3: people in here, we'll.
Speaker 1: Give away a cat shirty.
Speaker 3: If if you didn't know, so, for those of you
Speaker 3: listening later, this is a live recap, so it might
Speaker 3: sound a little bit different than our typical recaps, and
Speaker 3: you know, we'll we'll take comments and and all that
Speaker 3: fun stuff, and then if anybody wants to call in
Speaker 3: at the end, we can.
Speaker 1: We can do that.
Speaker 3: But in case anybody does not know, we have some
Speaker 3: we have some exciting stuff going on right now.
Speaker 2: Yes we do.
Speaker 3: We We are giving away a cameo from David Alpay
Speaker 3: in a two weeks at this episode ten after party,
Speaker 3: So join us for that and we will go live
Speaker 3: immediately following the episode on Sunday night, not tonight tonight,
Speaker 3: we're just doing we're kind of experimenting with you know,
Speaker 3: what's a good time for people. But for episode ten,
Speaker 3: we will definitely be doing our after party right after episode,
Speaker 3: right after episode ten on Sunday night, And all you
Speaker 3: have to do to win is be present at that
Speaker 3: after party and be active in the chat, and you
Speaker 3: get an extra entry for every one of our videos
Speaker 3: that you comment on and for every one of our
Speaker 3: after parties that you attend and participate in the chat.
Speaker 3: So really exciting, and David al Pay gives great cameos.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't want to pep talk from Jade? I know?
Speaker 1: And you can you can request that too.
Speaker 3: You can request you can request different types of cameos.
Speaker 3: You can get like just a regular one, or you
Speaker 3: can get a like a happy birthday thing or a
Speaker 3: congrats or a pep talk or a roast, and you
Speaker 3: can get those from you can ask for one from
Speaker 3: David Alpay or from Jade or from David Alpay as Jade,
Speaker 3: and he has done them as Jade before, which I
Speaker 3: want a roast from Jade so badly, and like I
Speaker 3: want a pep talk and a roast from Jade. I
Speaker 3: want a pep talk from David al Pay. I don't
Speaker 3: want to roast from David al Pay. I want a
Speaker 3: pep talk from David al Pay. And I want a
Speaker 3: pep talk and a roast from Jade because that would
Speaker 3: be me.
Speaker 2: Some call me teacup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He can call me it, he can call me whatever
Speaker 1: he wants to.
Speaker 2: Sorry, what is going on over there the inside of
Speaker 2: my dinosaur cup screen? And so it's preaking up my
Speaker 2: green screen inside my cup this Christy.
Speaker 3: It looks like you had some kind of bubbling cauldron
Speaker 3: over there.
Speaker 2: Yes, my god, that's so cool. Sorry, I'm gonna play it.
Speaker 2: Let me.
Speaker 3: No, I like spark Plug too. And he never again
Speaker 3: called her spark Plug like he said, I'm gonna He said,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call you spark Plug from now on, and
Speaker 3: he never again called her spark Plug.
Speaker 1: He lied.
Speaker 3: Lied to Julie, and he lied. He lied to Julie,
Speaker 3: and he lied, to all of us. Damn you, Jade,
Speaker 3: that's okay. He will call her spark Plug when he
Speaker 3: takes back his room next season because he's trying to
Speaker 3: sober up and he kicks Jim out.
Speaker 2: Yes, I support that.
Speaker 1: Steph Daddy Jade.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, this was a phenomenal episode.
Speaker 2: I think this might be my favorite episode of the
Speaker 2: season really. Yeah, and you'll you know why, you know why,
Speaker 2: everyone knows why. Yeah, it's because of that little Henry speech, Yeah,
Speaker 2: telling Jim the words to hear. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I definitely saw some foreshadowing though, I mean there's I mean,
Speaker 3: I think it's obvious at this point that Jade is
Speaker 3: going to be moving back into the house next next season,
Speaker 3: but it seems like there was some foreshadowing that maybe
Speaker 3: maybe Henry will take his place.
Speaker 1: Like yeah at the bar, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because like you saw Jade like pick up
Speaker 3: that bottle and then he put it down, you know.
Speaker 2: And he never took a drink in that scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the first episode he like he has
Speaker 3: been drinking constantly. Yeah, and you know, and we had
Speaker 3: the the scene with Tom where he was like, you know,
Speaker 3: sober up and get that Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he didn't.
Speaker 1: Like that's the first.
Speaker 3: By the way, did you notice last week that he
Speaker 3: had an umbrella in his drink?
Speaker 2: No, yes, umbrellas.
Speaker 1: I know. I forgot to mention it.
Speaker 3: And I'm so mad that I forgot to mention it
Speaker 3: because it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, let's let's.
Speaker 1: Get into it.
Speaker 2: Let's do this thing.
Speaker 1: So this was episode three oh eight.
Speaker 3: We only have two more episodes left, and that sucks.
Speaker 2: I can't believe it.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to be without from I'm
Speaker 3: really upset about it.
Speaker 2: Went on such a journey.
Speaker 1: I know, but uh.
Speaker 3: The episode is called Thresholds. Accusations start flying and truths
Speaker 3: come to light. In the aftermath of a tragedy, Victor
Speaker 3: struggles to recover long buried memories about the town's past.
Speaker 3: Julie and Ethan search for answers about the mysterious ruins
Speaker 3: in the woods. And it's funny because, like Jazzy, Jazzy
Speaker 3: and I talk pretty much every day, and I don't
Speaker 3: even think I've told you.
Speaker 1: That that we.
Speaker 3: Got we got an exclusive, we got an exclusive sneak
Speaker 3: peak clip.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, it was the Jim and it was the
Speaker 1: Jim and Jade scene.
Speaker 3: And I posted it to our Twitter and everyone was like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, Jim's gotta go. But uh so the episode
Speaker 3: opens up with Boyd and Fatima running to the Talisman
Speaker 3: Hut at the edge of the road, and uh he
Speaker 3: asks Fatima to explain what happened, and like, is this
Speaker 3: a smart idea?
Speaker 2: Why why he takes everyone to the Talisman Hut. He's like,
Speaker 2: that is not a secret place anymore. Everyone knows about it.
Speaker 2: I know, Chris, he knows about it, Jade knows about it,
Speaker 2: Kenny knows. Everyone knows about the Talisman Hut. Like the
Speaker 2: second if if anyone had ever realized it was Fatima,
Speaker 2: that's the first place video check.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah for sure. But uh yeah. He has Fatima to.
Speaker 3: Explain what happened, and she says that as soon as
Speaker 3: she decided not to eat the rotting food, my notes
Speaker 3: keep moving around here. As soon as she decided to
Speaker 3: not eat the rotting food, she just like this pain
Speaker 3: and rage just took over. And Tillie tried to help,
Speaker 3: but she just kind of lost control of her body
Speaker 3: there and like whatever was inside her was controlling her,
Speaker 3: and she stabbed her with the shears and she said
Speaker 3: it was basically like an out of body experience, and
Speaker 3: she like it was like whatever was in her took
Speaker 3: control while she watched and boyd you know, boys just
Speaker 3: kind of listening and taking this in. And he hangs
Speaker 3: a talisman on the door and tells her that he
Speaker 3: and Ellis will be back.
Speaker 1: For her in the morning, once they have a chance
Speaker 1: to sort it out.
Speaker 3: That's kind of suck man, staying in that little tiny
Speaker 3: hut like all night.
Speaker 2: It's not even like finished, there's like holes in it.
Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna answer lpie Punk's question. And really
Speaker 2: quickly he took Sarah to the hut. He's put it
Speaker 2: on the map for Jade when Jade was planning to
Speaker 2: go out, and he's told Kenny and Jim about it
Speaker 2: when Kenny and Jim we're going to go out searching
Speaker 2: for Tabitha. It's the hut is not a secret people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely. But yeah, So.
Speaker 3: He he leaves her alone and he tells her, you know,
Speaker 3: he tells her they'll figure out a way forward tomorrow
Speaker 3: and and but you know, she starts crying that there
Speaker 3: is no way forward, but he tells her that she's
Speaker 3: family and he'll help her and he asks her about Fatima.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, asks Boyd about Tollie's body, and he says
Speaker 3: that they have to let somebody else find her and
Speaker 3: just starts sobbing, and he tells her he just needs
Speaker 3: her to be strong right now. And I know, I know,
Speaker 3: I feel terrible for what.
Speaker 2: An awful situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the opening. Then we go to the
Speaker 3: opening credits, and then we when we come back Ethan, Jim, Jade,
Speaker 3: and Tabitha are heading back into town from the settlement.
Speaker 3: And all I kept thinking during the scene is, man.
Speaker 1: Jim and Jade must have like.
Speaker 3: Been going out of their minds having to having to
Speaker 3: like spend the night together.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would have liked to have seen that. I'm sure
Speaker 3: it was just silence.
Speaker 2: Facing but to but not looking at each other. I
Speaker 2: can see that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're heading, uh, they're heading back into town
Speaker 3: and or or you know, maybe Jim got maybe Jim
Speaker 3: got so pissed off because his uh his because Jade
Speaker 3: kicked him out.
Speaker 1: Jade kicked him out and spent the night with Tabitha.
Speaker 2: He had to sleep in the Red Shirt cabin. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I hope so.
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, Jada heads to the bar and tells
Speaker 3: them he'll catch up with them later and uh as
Speaker 3: they as they head into the home that they just
Speaker 3: colonized from Kenny's family. Uh, A very upset looking Ethan
Speaker 3: runs immediately upstairs as Tabitha calls after him.
Speaker 1: Why is he so upset?
Speaker 2: Like, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I think something might have been cut out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the last time we saw them, it was
Speaker 2: just Tabitha remembering her. She was like, I was here,
Speaker 2: it was real, and that was it. Like, I don't
Speaker 2: remember anything happening with Ethan. Why he would be.
Speaker 1: Hen heard that he overheard them talking.
Speaker 3: He ever heard Tabitha and Jim talking, and he was
Speaker 3: telling her, trying to tell her that, like you know
Speaker 3: that the place is just messing with.
Speaker 1: Her and everything.
Speaker 3: And but I don't know why that would upset Ethan,
Speaker 3: Like it's not even like a nasty disagreement that they're having.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's why why it makes me feel
Speaker 1: like something might have been cut out there.
Speaker 2: That makes sense. I was wondering that.
Speaker 1: Too, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Tabitha can't stop him, but she, uh, she
Speaker 3: goes into the kitchen, like just not looking very happy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: something must have been cut out because she really, like
Speaker 3: Tabitha looked really upset with him. Ethan was something had
Speaker 3: to have been cut out. I'm certain of it.
Speaker 2: Argument. Yeah, probably with him and Jade that that got left. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because Jade splits immediately, Tabitha's pissed, Ethan's upset.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something happen, Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: And uh so back at the back at the bar, Jade,
Speaker 3: Jade goes to to pour himself to drink, but he
Speaker 3: puts it down like right away, and he uh he
Speaker 3: then hears the sound from the bedroom and he grabs
Speaker 3: the bottle and starts like moving toward the door, and
Speaker 3: it opens to reveal it a disheveled looking Henry who
Speaker 3: clearly has spent the night there.
Speaker 2: Yes, and when we had last left Henry, he was
Speaker 2: with Donna getting wasted. And then he comes out of
Speaker 2: the back bedroom ball Oh excuse me, sir, Horad party.
Speaker 2: They banged, they banged.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I I I believe it.
Speaker 2: Donna needed to relieve that stress.
Speaker 3: All right, you're a uh okay, well, if you're if
Speaker 3: you're going to cling to that belief, then I'm going
Speaker 3: to cling to the belief that that that all the
Speaker 3: tension is because Jade kicked Jim out of out of
Speaker 3: uh into the red shirt hunt hut hunt hunt and
Speaker 3: uh and he and Tavisa got it on.
Speaker 2: I like both theories. I feel more evidence, but I
Speaker 2: do like them both.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where did Danna go?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but uh, Jade, Yeah, I mean he
Speaker 3: just spent whole night there, like they must have been
Speaker 3: drinking pretty late.
Speaker 2: I'll p punk, I'll p punks. He's it, that's what's up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Jade asks Henry who the fuck he is, and he
Speaker 3: quickly explains that he's Victor's dad, Henry.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Henry admires his his crazy person boards and then pours
Speaker 3: himself a morning moonshine. Back at Caliity House, Elgin and
Speaker 3: mary Elle see somebody discovering Tilly's body. The polaroid then
Speaker 3: flashes and Elgin grabs the photo.
Speaker 1: We again don't see it right away.
Speaker 3: At the clinic, Julie knocks on the door to Randall's
Speaker 3: room and asks him to thank mary Elle and Christy
Speaker 3: for letting her spend the night if he sees them,
Speaker 3: and he's like.
Speaker 1: I don't get a thank you. That cracked me up.
Speaker 3: And and she just she rolls her eyes and smiles
Speaker 3: him and tells him thank you as well.
Speaker 1: Like he's actually Randall has been so snarky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he showed up in town, but now he's like
Speaker 3: more of a fun snarky.
Speaker 2: I really like that. We're getting the softer side of Randal. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's endearing. Can I even like, I know it's weird
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, like his snark before was malicious, but
Speaker 3: now it's like now it's kind of just it's more
Speaker 3: fun spirited, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he and Julie have a nice rapport. Yeah, older brother,
Speaker 2: little sister type of rapport.
Speaker 3: Yes, folks, Yes, yes, there's there's nothing.
Speaker 1: There's nothing else going on there.
Speaker 2: No, say, like Julie's allowed to.
Speaker 3: Crush on him as she wants, because yes she's she's
Speaker 3: a teenage girl.
Speaker 1: But that's it. He's a good older brother figure.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I actually think Randall might be Thomas.
Speaker 3: I think Randal is. I think Randal is Ginger the cow.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yep, she died and she inhabited his body.
Speaker 3: That's why he's being nicer now.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that totally makes sense. Actually, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: And and he's feeling really really bad now because he's
Speaker 3: being inhabited by Ginger. He's feeling really bad now about
Speaker 3: trying to kill Alma for food, because you know that's
Speaker 3: that's all, Yeah exactly, but he so anyway, she she
Speaker 3: rolls her eyes and and tells him thank you, and
Speaker 3: she asks if he'll go back to the ruins with her,
Speaker 3: and he tells her that she just needs to stave
Speaker 3: the fuck away from that place and there's absolutely nothing
Speaker 3: in that town that wants to help them, and Julie
Speaker 3: leaves frustrated and she just doesn't agree.
Speaker 2: I agree with Randall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, same.
Speaker 3: But at colony House, Ellis and Boyd are rehearsing your story.
Speaker 1: Ellis wants to tell the truth, but Boyd.
Speaker 3: Doesn't think it's a good idea, and Ellis is afraid
Speaker 3: that that people will.
Speaker 1: Want to put her in the box.
Speaker 3: It's like, you want to tell the truth, but you're
Speaker 3: afraid that that Fatima will end up in the box.
Speaker 1: Do you want your wife going?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: What the hell?
Speaker 2: Man? It felt like Ellis was arguing just to argue.
Speaker 2: It was strange.
Speaker 1: He's freaking out, like he's scared, he doesn't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very fair, but but yeah, Boyd insists that won't happen,
Speaker 3: and he tells Ellis to go up to their room
Speaker 3: and pack some things for Fatima, and someone comes by
Speaker 3: to grab Boyd to inspect Tilly's body. Acosta and Kenny
Speaker 3: show up at the scene, and Acosta says she's going
Speaker 3: to interview everyone in colony house. Boyd says he and
Speaker 3: Ellis will will walk the road, saying this that this
Speaker 3: could have been done by new arrivals that they aren't
Speaker 3: aware of yet. Boyd says that he knows Kenny isn't
Speaker 3: his Japiannie anymore, but Kenny just like doesn't even it,
Speaker 3: you know, acts like he doesn't even really hear him,
Speaker 3: and he just agrees to help.
Speaker 1: So he heads toward.
Speaker 3: Colony house with Acosta, who pauses to ask if if
Speaker 3: she and Boyd are good, and he just says, let's
Speaker 3: find who did this. They split up. No, you're not good.
Speaker 3: You just gotta you just gotta get shipped done.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: By the way, so I guess, uh, Samantha Brown?
Speaker 1: Is that her the actress's name?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess she didn't interview recently where somebody
Speaker 3: asked what.
Speaker 1: Her first name was yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she said she couldn't say because it was
Speaker 3: a spoiler.
Speaker 1: So yes, I have a yes, what's your guess?
Speaker 2: I think it's Abby?
Speaker 1: You think so?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I why do so?
Speaker 3: Why do you think that would be a spoiler? What
Speaker 3: do you think?
Speaker 2: I think that not that her name, not heard, that
Speaker 2: her name that she can't tell. She said she couldn't
Speaker 2: say what her first name was because there's a reason
Speaker 2: that they're keeping it secret. And I think that her
Speaker 2: first name is going to be Abby because he's already
Speaker 2: Boyd's already freaking out about Brian and Kelly showing up,
Speaker 2: and I think, like this character is already so like
Speaker 2: hard headed and in his face and challenging his authority already,
Speaker 2: that if her name is his, you know, past wife's name,
Speaker 2: it's going to completely throw him off.
Speaker 3: He's gonna like, it's gonna fuck him up. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: get what you're saying. Yeah, that's a good theory. I
Speaker 3: bet you're right. I bet you're right. That makes a
Speaker 3: lot of sense. But where was I so? Uh? Donna
Speaker 3: comes out with the blanket to cover up Tilly's body
Speaker 3: and says that they need to talk to Sarah and
Speaker 3: Boyd tells her it wasn't her, and Donna says, he
Speaker 3: doesn't know that, and she's not the only one who's
Speaker 3: going to be asking about her. And you know, she
Speaker 3: mentions that hiding from the monsters every night is one thing,
Speaker 3: but Tilly's murder is something that people are going to
Speaker 3: need to blame somebody for and if they can't figure
Speaker 3: out who did it, then people are gonna blame Sarah,
Speaker 3: whether she did it or not. And yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Boy degrees and asks Donna to meet him at the
Speaker 3: station later to talk to Sarah. Together. At the Kabana House,
Speaker 3: Sarah is attempting to voice Jasper for Victor.
Speaker 1: This cracked me up.
Speaker 3: She's like, Hi, Victor, I could tell you friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Victor is Victor is just kissed a up
Speaker 3: that she's not doing it right, and like Sarah's obviously
Speaker 3: upset that that he's yelling at her and and tells
Speaker 3: him she's doing the best that that she can and
Speaker 3: he's just freaking the fuck out.
Speaker 1: He's like screaming that, you know, she's not good enough.
Speaker 3: But then like he turns it on himself and he's
Speaker 3: like slapping himself in the face and saying he's saying
Speaker 3: you're not good enough, You're not good enough to himself,
Speaker 3: and Sarah rustles russells his arms down to try to
Speaker 3: stop him.
Speaker 1: I don't think this guy has slept in a few days.
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem that way. No, it seems like he's
Speaker 2: going through it hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he's losing it. He puts some like he
Speaker 3: puts a lot of pressure on himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: At the Matthews house, Tabitha's in the kitchen getting dinner
Speaker 3: ready when Jim walks in to say something stupid. He's
Speaker 3: ugly tells her that he knows she's thinking that she
Speaker 3: needs to save the children and the town has convinced
Speaker 3: her that she has to fix this, but it's something
Speaker 3: that will never happen.
Speaker 1: And he asks if she knows why the phone.
Speaker 3: Is off the wall, and he tells her about on
Speaker 3: Thomas calling, and he says that there's something in this
Speaker 3: town that knows things about us, and it knows what
Speaker 3: buttons to push And just then there's a knock on
Speaker 3: the door and they rush to answer it, and it's Sarah.
Speaker 3: She tells him that Victor is in her basement and
Speaker 3: in really bad shape, and she says that Victor will
Speaker 3: only speak with Tabitha, and Jim isn't happy about it,
Speaker 3: but Tabitha goes to grab her coat and leaves to
Speaker 3: go over there.
Speaker 1: Back at the.
Speaker 3: Clinic, Elgin calls out to see if anyone's there, but
Speaker 3: doesn't get an answer. He starts searching through a drawer
Speaker 3: but is startled when Randall walks up and says, if
Speaker 3: you're looking for drugs, you're looking in the wrong spot,
Speaker 3: and Elgin like looks terrified.
Speaker 2: He looks like, yeah, yeah, he does.
Speaker 3: And he said he's just looking for a band aid,
Speaker 3: and Randall's like, you better not let Christy and Mary
Speaker 3: elle can to rooting through their ship, and he asks
Speaker 3: Elgin if he had heard about Tilly, and Elgin said yeah,
Speaker 3: and Randall Randall actually apologizes for his attitude when they
Speaker 3: got to town and you know, telling he told Elgin
Speaker 3: he was right, they should have turned around, and Elgin
Speaker 3: apologizes for puking on him, and they just kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, share a smile, and then Randall leeves. Elgin
Speaker 3: pulls a blood set out of the out of supply
Speaker 3: cabinet and LP Punk commented Randall. Randall back to being
Speaker 3: a dick to Elgin in the episode, fairly acknowledging Elgin's apology,
Speaker 3: I think it's just Randal.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, he's just you know, he's I don't I.
Speaker 3: Don't think he was being a dick. He just like
Speaker 3: I mean, there was like a smile and a nod.
Speaker 3: You know, he's just not very warm and fuzzy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's as kind as he's going to get to it,
Speaker 2: you know, another dude, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Back in Sarah's basement, Victor is super relieved to see Tabitha,
Speaker 3: and Sarah kind of watches on as Victor passes Jasper
Speaker 3: to Tabitha and he insists her that since she was
Speaker 3: there when she remembered when he remembered Eloi's which, by
Speaker 3: the way, like I've gone back and watched this series
Speaker 3: so many times now, I still get goose bumps every.
Speaker 1: Time during that.
Speaker 2: Scene is incredible.
Speaker 3: Like I just, I mean, I just I get chills
Speaker 3: and goosebumps, and just like I have a I have
Speaker 3: a visceral reaction to it every single time.
Speaker 1: I say it, absolutely, but to.
Speaker 3: Like I wish that I'd been watching it live at
Speaker 3: the time, you know. Oh yeah, see everybody react to it,
Speaker 3: because that would have been kind of amazing.
Speaker 1: But uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Tabitha asks what he means Jasper to tell them,
Speaker 3: and Victor says that the secrets he needs him to
Speaker 3: tell him, the secrets that he told Christopher because they
Speaker 3: can help us, And Tabitha says, you know, Victory, he's
Speaker 3: just a doll. And he starts panicking and saying, you know,
Speaker 3: she has to be the one, and he's like just
Speaker 3: screaming and repeating and kicking things. He's like, you have
Speaker 3: to be the one, you have to be the one,
Speaker 3: and starts punching the wall and hitting his face like
Speaker 3: he's just fucking.
Speaker 1: Losing a shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Tabitha jumps up, what's up?
Speaker 2: Let's see, it's just awful, like physical he gets with
Speaker 2: himself when he gets upset. Yeah, it's really upset.
Speaker 1: I yeah, yeah, really little guy. I know.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean if you think about it, like he
Speaker 3: was alone for so many years, yeah, and so he
Speaker 3: had true he only had himself to rely on. Like yeah,
Speaker 3: so he's that's.
Speaker 1: Never going to change.
Speaker 3: She's always going to feel like he has to do everything,
Speaker 3: you know, like he's responsible for everything.
Speaker 2: Poor little Victor.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, and and poor little Victor, indeed,
Speaker 3: poor little Victor who does not deserve daily thirst threads
Speaker 3: cord if you want, okay to note little innocent ten
Speaker 3: year old Victor, because that's what he is. He's a
Speaker 3: ten year old boy.
Speaker 2: Okay, he doesn't understand.
Speaker 3: I know. But it's funny because they'll always post a
Speaker 3: picture of Scott record and what the comments are.
Speaker 2: On that Victor can get it moving no no, no, sir,
Speaker 2: oh god.
Speaker 3: And it just like if you guys haven't seen so well,
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody's seen it because it was just a
Speaker 3: unless you were at the film festival.
Speaker 1: But I forgot what film festival it was at.
Speaker 3: But he just had a he started in a short
Speaker 3: film that just premiered at at one of the well
Speaker 3: known film festivals and screenfest oh need.
Speaker 1: And it was called.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's if it's pronounced Claudia or
Speaker 3: plot Ai, I don't know, but it's he Yeah.
Speaker 1: It really if you like.
Speaker 3: I I hope that this becomes available to watch in
Speaker 3: the near future somewhere because it looks really.
Speaker 1: Interesting, but it's it's it's definitely going.
Speaker 3: To ruin people's image of sweet little little victor because
Speaker 3: he's he's basically an internet predator.
Speaker 2: No, it's like when Stanley Tucci is the Lovely Bones.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like he's like this, Uh yeah, it's like
Speaker 3: this creepy, perverted internet predator who's like spying on women.
Speaker 3: Don't like that, yeah, and telling them to take their
Speaker 3: clothes off. No, thank you, but uh so, anyway, he's
Speaker 3: hitting the wall and hitting himself, and Tabitha jumps up
Speaker 3: and forces him to stop, and she just she makes
Speaker 3: him look at her, and she calms him down and
Speaker 3: asks if he wants to draw a picture, and he
Speaker 3: said that the pictures don't work like that. The pictures
Speaker 3: were so that he didn't forget, but he never drew
Speaker 3: a picture of this, so there's no way that he
Speaker 3: can remember. And it's just gone. And Tabitha encourages him
Speaker 3: to sit and tells him over and over that he's okay,
Speaker 3: that nothing is gone, and she asks him to tell
Speaker 3: her about the doll and he said his name is
Speaker 3: Jasper and one time he heard him telling secrets to Christopher,
Speaker 3: but he can't remember, and he starts getting frustrated again,
Speaker 3: but she says they'll remember together, just like last time.
Speaker 1: Julie comes home to find her dad there.
Speaker 3: She asks how things are at the settlement and he
Speaker 3: says that's not great, and he tells her Ethan is
Speaker 3: upstairs and asks if she can keep an eye on him,
Speaker 3: and she asks where he's going, and he says he
Speaker 3: has something to take care of.
Speaker 2: He has to go tell another member of the town
Speaker 2: to leave his family alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's the only place Jim ever goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, while he also leaves his family alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't parent, you're traumatized child your daughter, just go
Speaker 2: yell at some random stranger to leave your kids alone.
Speaker 1: Yep, and you know. Julie looks justifiably annoyed.
Speaker 3: And heads upstairs to look after Ethan, who is sitting
Speaker 3: on the floor looking depressed. Julie asks if he's okay,
Speaker 3: and he says he's fine, and she asks if he
Speaker 3: wants to see something really cool, and Ethan gets excited
Speaker 3: and I'm just thinking, no, Julie.
Speaker 2: No, also, that's not that cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Back at the bar, Henry tells Jade that his wife
Speaker 3: had visions of the place and he wished he would
Speaker 3: have listened to her, and Jade does his best.
Speaker 1: Samantha from sex in the city and says Kuda would
Speaker 1: have should have.
Speaker 3: Henry asks Jade why he thinks he's so smart, because
Speaker 3: probably a lot of smart people have tried to figure
Speaker 3: this out, and Jade just says he's smarter, which, you know.
Speaker 1: The thing I like about Jade is is that.
Speaker 3: He like, he was very arrogant in the beginning, but
Speaker 3: him saying this, I don't think that's arrogance anymore. It's
Speaker 3: just him saying, like, I know them, I know I'm brilliant,
Speaker 3: and I have to, like, I have to use my intelligence.
Speaker 3: I have a responsibility to use my intelligence to get out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But Jim, being enormously predictable, storms into the bar, and
Speaker 3: I love Jade's reaction. It's like, oh, sure, by all means,
Speaker 3: come right in. And Jim tells Jade it's done, and
Speaker 3: Jade's like, uh, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 3: And Jim's like, what the fuck were you thinking dragging
Speaker 3: my wife and my child out into the woods. And
Speaker 3: he just like gets right up in Jade's face and
Speaker 3: and puts his hands on his sh shoulders.
Speaker 2: Which just immediately made me cringe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, he puts his hands on his shoulders
Speaker 3: and and he gets in his face and says, in
Speaker 3: the fashion of a Gilliad husband, that Tabitha is not
Speaker 3: in a good way right now, and Jade shouldn't be
Speaker 3: filling her head with ideas that she's some kind of
Speaker 3: chosen savior. Jade just like Jade's like shoves him aside.
Speaker 3: It's like, get your fucking hands off of me. And
Speaker 3: he's like, first of all, filling her head with ideas,
Speaker 3: what is she nine?
Speaker 2: Exactly? Good job exactly, Jane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's uh yeah. He he knows a
Speaker 3: misogynist when he sees one, and he tells that. He
Speaker 3: tells Jim that Tabitha came there and she recognized the
Speaker 3: drawings and wanted to go, And Jim calls Jade a lonely, selfish,
Speaker 3: narcissistic asshole who doesn't care about anybody but himself and
Speaker 3: his own ego.
Speaker 2: Which makes zero fucking sense, because he went down into
Speaker 2: the fucking monster hole last season to try to save Julie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not his kid, like, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was completely selfless.
Speaker 1: He did not want to go down there.
Speaker 3: He was fucking terrified, exactly, but but he went anyway.
Speaker 1: He psyched himself up to go down there.
Speaker 3: Selfish, and he says, if you want to kill yourself
Speaker 3: trying to figure out the town, be my guest. But
Speaker 3: I have a family to look out for, you know,
Speaker 3: the family that he uh, that he left behind to
Speaker 3: come deliver this, uh, this asshole speech to Jade, like
Speaker 3: instead of talking to his traumatized children.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, let's talk about your family, because out of
Speaker 3: the two of us, I'm the only one who's trying
Speaker 3: to get everybody home, and like, I just, oh my god,
Speaker 3: this this speech makes me so mad. And he tells
Speaker 3: Jim like he's getting and I forgot to mention he
Speaker 3: tells He tells Jim he's getting a little tired of
Speaker 3: this blue collar, sanctimonious bullshit, which was just such a
Speaker 3: great line, and he's like, where was I you know?
Speaker 3: He he points at at at his crazy person papers
Speaker 3: and says like this is helping people, and Jim just
Speaker 3: starts yelling and he's like, no, all this does is
Speaker 3: prove that you are the smartest prick in the room,
Speaker 3: and Jade says, who cares as well?
Speaker 1: If it gets everybody home, then who gives a shit?
Speaker 3: So fucking right, I have never related stronger to Jade
Speaker 3: than I did.
Speaker 1: In this scene.
Speaker 2: Like, absolutely, my.
Speaker 3: God, Oh my god, I cannot tell you how many
Speaker 3: conversations I've had with people that went exactly like this.
Speaker 2: Why does it matter as long as he's right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Jim is so fucking insecure it's ridiculous. Amen, He's insecure
Speaker 3: and he's jealous, yes, and he needs.
Speaker 1: To shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3: But Jade, you know, Jade says, if you want to
Speaker 3: keep your kids under lock and key, that's your business.
Speaker 3: But Tabitha is a grown woman and if he has
Speaker 3: a problem with her, he should try talking to her.
Speaker 1: And you know, Jim.
Speaker 3: Has just lost the battle of wits that he was
Speaker 3: never prepared to win and slams the bar door in
Speaker 3: Jim's face and from the barshool, Henry sarcastically says, well,
Speaker 3: well that was that was productive. Like I just I
Speaker 3: cannot tell you how much Jim pissed me off so
Speaker 3: much in this scene.
Speaker 2: This is one of his worst scenes in the season,
Speaker 2: and he's had a lot of stinkers.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I think this.
Speaker 3: Is my my next hit. This is probably like my
Speaker 3: my third least favorite Jim moment. The first thing when
Speaker 3: I roughed up Victor, the second being when he talked
Speaker 3: shit about Victor, and then this is probably right after that,
Speaker 3: like he's this whole bullshit about you know, I have
Speaker 3: a family, like you're you're a lonely, narcissistic asshole and
Speaker 3: I have a family. Oh cool, you have a family,
Speaker 3: so you're better than me. Awesome, right.
Speaker 2: I was pretty thought he was pretty nasty when he
Speaker 2: was like, Tabitha, you need to be here to parent
Speaker 2: your kids.
Speaker 1: Like I know you, I know that's your red flag. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Jim.
Speaker 3: We we defended you a lot in the past two seasons.
Speaker 3: We didn't we didn't like you very much, but we
Speaker 3: defended you as being at least a really good husband
Speaker 3: and father.
Speaker 2: And yeah, you're just bro.
Speaker 1: You just suck. Now, gotta go, you just gotta go.
Speaker 2: You're about to get from YEP.
Speaker 3: At the Talisman Hut, Ellie shows up to check on
Speaker 3: Fatima and they hug, and you know, he tells her
Speaker 3: it's okay. She tells him to please stop saying that,
Speaker 3: reminding him that she killed someone, and Elli says that
Speaker 3: they're in this together no matter what, even if they
Speaker 3: have to take the talisman and live in the woods
Speaker 3: like Daryld Dixon.
Speaker 1: They they can all move in together.
Speaker 3: You know. Fatima is afraid that she'll hurt Ellis too,
Speaker 3: but he insists she won't, which is just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know that.
Speaker 3: And he leaves her the clothes that he brought her
Speaker 3: and her lucky handkerchief, which she presses into her hand,
Speaker 3: and he tells her he loves her and that he'll
Speaker 3: be back okay. She sits there with a handkerchief holding
Speaker 3: it to her nose and breathes in and sinks to
Speaker 3: the floor. And then Elgin's girlfriend, Kimona Lady appears before her,
Speaker 3: and she looks up and screams.
Speaker 2: And help me get made over for my date with Elgin.
Speaker 1: I have a date with Elgin later. To help me
Speaker 1: do my hair.
Speaker 2: Well, you have to have a makeover, Montog please, yes,
Speaker 2: oh my god, all right. In the bathroom of Colony House,
Speaker 2: the polaroid is revealed to be a blood bag, similar
Speaker 2: to what would be gathered at a blood drive. Elgin
Speaker 2: ties a tourniquit around his arm with his belt and
Speaker 2: hesitantly and with shaking hands and searchs the IV. He
Speaker 2: begins to drain his blood into a filthy ass jar.
Speaker 2: Absolutely disgusting. What a plan. Yeah, the polaroid flashes yet again,
Speaker 2: and another photo that we don't get to see pops
Speaker 2: out over at the bar. Henry asks Jim if he
Speaker 2: minds some unsolicited advice, and Jim says sure, and Henry
Speaker 2: says my favorite words of the entire series and tells Jim, Hey,
Speaker 2: when your wife's talking, how about you occasionally shut the
Speaker 2: fuck up and listen to her?
Speaker 1: Yep, thank you, Henry, good job.
Speaker 2: I love you, Henry. Yes, Henry. Yeah. Jim, being incapable
Speaker 2: of accepting even the smallest amount of criticism, is immediately
Speaker 2: taken aback and aggressively says.
Speaker 4: Excuse me, okay, listen, listen, mister Jim Matthews, mister over
Speaker 4: defensive Jim Matthews, who gets all the red flags this season?
Speaker 1: Here's what you can do.
Speaker 2: How many red flags I have?
Speaker 3: I have six, and I'll add one more and make
Speaker 3: it seven for the seven ankouay children. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: mister James Matthews, Jimm Athy, Jimberlee, fuck all the way off,
Speaker 3: go fuck off over to fuck off Mountain and keep
Speaker 3: walking up fuck off Mountain until you can't fuck off anymore.
Speaker 2: Okay, tell like it, says, I'm.
Speaker 1: So over his little his little overly defensive.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, yes, I'm tired of him trying to get
Speaker 2: everybody's face. Locker room, bro, why are you trying to
Speaker 2: fight everybody?
Speaker 3: God, he's the worst.
Speaker 2: Henry, being a munch, tells Jim that he reminds him
Speaker 2: of himself. Forty years ago. He was certain that he
Speaker 2: could fix Miranda, but she was never broken, he tells Jim, attempting.
Speaker 2: Jim's always attempting to tightly control his family, and it
Speaker 2: may seem like it's for them, but it's really because
Speaker 2: he's scared, and it's for him. He says he's probably
Speaker 2: the only person in town who can tell him that
Speaker 2: and know for sure that it's true. Jim crosses the
Speaker 2: bar and sits next to Henry, and Henry offers him drink,
Speaker 2: but Jim says no, his father was an alcoholic. Henry
Speaker 2: says that his father was also an alcoholic, but he's
Speaker 2: still drinking. Jim tells the story of the day that
Speaker 2: Julie was born. He says that after Tabitha had fallen asleep,
Speaker 2: he walked across the street to the bar and ordered
Speaker 2: the tallest glass of whiskey he could order, and then
Speaker 2: sat and stared at it for several hours, then making decisions,
Speaker 2: the decision to be a better husband and father to
Speaker 2: his children. Which is funny that the first thing he
Speaker 2: did as a parent of Julie was walk away. Yeah,
Speaker 2: go sit somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: What the hell. Henry leans over the bar and pours
Speaker 2: Jim a large glass. Jim asks what he's doing, and
Speaker 2: Henry says he's giving him the chance to renew his vows.
Speaker 2: Jim to sit as long as he'd like. He loved
Speaker 2: the company. Henry is super, super relaxed. This guy is
Speaker 2: obviously just banged over in the woods. Julie and Ethan
Speaker 2: come to the ruins. Ethan asks what this place is
Speaker 2: and she tells him she doesn't know. She makes him
Speaker 2: promise not to tell their parents what she's about to
Speaker 2: tell him. She describes a hearing of screaming and how
Speaker 2: it won't stop, and when she saw this place with
Speaker 2: Randall yesterday, it's the first time things have gone quiet.
Speaker 2: She tells Ethan. She feels like something wants her to
Speaker 2: go in, but she's scared. She asks him what she
Speaker 2: should do. Ethan is surprised. Julie says this all reminds
Speaker 2: her of one of his like but one of Ethan's stories,
Speaker 2: So if she were one of those characters, what should
Speaker 2: she do? Ethan tells her that she's at a threshold
Speaker 2: and that it may be scary, but they're going to
Speaker 2: have to be brave. He offers to come with her. Smiling,
Speaker 2: she takes his hand and they step together into the ruins.
Speaker 2: As they walk forward, Julie's hand is suddenly empty, and
Speaker 2: she's alone in the dungeon where she was once held
Speaker 2: with mary Elle and Randall. She walks forward, clearly terrified,
Speaker 2: when suddenly she sees the three of them chain to
Speaker 2: the wall. She can hear their screaming. She falls to
Speaker 2: her knees and covers her ears, trying to block out
Speaker 2: the sound. Back in the ruins, Julie has fallen to
Speaker 2: the ground and is seizing violently, while Ethan tries to
Speaker 2: shake her awake, but with no effect. Yeah, could have,
Speaker 2: should have that's the name of this episode.
Speaker 3: By the way, Can I just interject something really quick
Speaker 3: that's totally off topic. I'm drinking a sour patch kids,
Speaker 3: Blue Raspberry Ghost because you're recording.
Speaker 1: At this time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I learned this week.
Speaker 3: I learned this week that my husband, whose name is
Speaker 3: also Jim, has never had sour patch kids ever. Never.
Speaker 2: That's bizarre.
Speaker 1: They're like my favorite candy.
Speaker 2: You gotta get on that hose. He never had them.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: They're not even in my like top twenty. I still
Speaker 2: will eat some sour patchiets. Oh, I fucking love that shit.
Speaker 2: They're so good anything sour anyway, Sorry about that. I
Speaker 2: was just like, I was just thinking about how delicious
Speaker 2: this is and all the wasted years that Jim has had.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Back in Sarah's basement, Tabatha asked Victure he remembers where
Speaker 2: he was the first time he heard Jasper talk. Victor
Speaker 2: says it was dark. It was a basement. Tabitha asks
Speaker 2: if he if he knows which basement, and Victor starts
Speaker 2: to panic again. Tabatha tries a few more questions, but
Speaker 2: nothing is breaking through Victor's memory as he starts to
Speaker 2: continually slap himself in the face. Finally, from across the room,
Speaker 2: Sarah asks was it a nice day? This stops Victor
Speaker 2: and he asks her what She asks him again, what
Speaker 2: the weather was like the day he heard Jasper talk.
Speaker 2: Victor remembers that it was sunny and he and Eloise
Speaker 2: are playing hide and seek. He remembers searching everywhere and
Speaker 2: not being able to find her, so he finally checked
Speaker 2: the church because she had never hidden there before because
Speaker 2: she was afraid of it. He suddenly realizes this is it.
Speaker 2: He saw Jasper talking to Christopher in the church.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm kind of proud of ourselves for recognizing upon
Speaker 3: the first watch that this was that they were in
Speaker 3: the church basement, because a lot of people did not
Speaker 3: get that apparently. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they hadn't been in.
Speaker 2: That set very often, but it's a very recognizable set.
Speaker 3: See, I don't I think with how dark it is,
Speaker 3: I think it's hard to tell the difference between like
Speaker 3: the church basement and the root seller and like it's
Speaker 3: it's a little difficult. So I'm kind of proud that
Speaker 3: we that we both recognized it. Yea.
Speaker 2: At Colony House, Kenny and Acosta interview the man and
Speaker 2: his partner who found Tilly's body. They are frustrated with
Speaker 2: being questioned and asked why no one has asked the
Speaker 2: one person in town who's murdered anyone yet. Acosta is
Speaker 2: surprised by this. She hasn't heard about Sarah. The woman
Speaker 2: says that they are fine answering questions, but everyone knows
Speaker 2: who did this. Kenny says they'll be talking with Sarah later,
Speaker 2: but they need to finish questioning people here first. The
Speaker 2: man interjects, didn't she murder your dad? Why the fuck
Speaker 2: are you defending her. Acosta looks at Kennys At the
Speaker 2: sheriff's station, Boyd and Ellis fight. Ellis wants to take
Speaker 2: off into the woods with Fatima and stay in a
Speaker 2: tent with a talisman, while Boyd tells the townspeople the truth.
Speaker 2: Boyd argues that that would not work. Ellis insists that
Speaker 2: they'll be safe with the talismans, but Boyd reminds him
Speaker 2: that he would not be safe from Fatima. This angers
Speaker 2: Ellis further, and he insists that Fatima would never hurt him,
Speaker 2: but Boyd reminds him that she just lost control and
Speaker 2: stabbed someone. Right then, Donna bersin's saying that many people
Speaker 2: are ready to march on Sarah's house with torches when
Speaker 2: she senses the vibe of the room and immediately knows
Speaker 2: something's off. She asks what's going on, and Boyd and
Speaker 2: ellis exchanged looks. Boyd says it wasn't Sarah, and Donna
Speaker 2: tries to reason with him, but he cuts her off,
Speaker 2: explaining that it was Fatima who killed Tilly. She looks
Speaker 2: like she just got sucked in the yeah, I said.
Speaker 2: The room falls silent as this news knocks the wind
Speaker 2: from Donna, Like, she looks like she right hit in
Speaker 2: the face. Mm hmm. Yeah, that's that's her boo, that's
Speaker 2: her little girl, Like, yeah, I was painful.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that.
Speaker 3: I'm glad that he told her though, Yeah, and I
Speaker 3: hope that I hope that she stops getting mad at
Speaker 3: him after this for like, yeah, not telling him stuff
Speaker 3: fast enough because that that that must have been really
Speaker 3: fucking hard.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean he told her immediately.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'll love to talk about this off h
Speaker 2: off camera, but I have some speculation about things that
Speaker 2: are going to happen next season that yeah, we'll talk
Speaker 2: about it later, Okay. On the road outside Colony House,
Speaker 2: Costa asks Kenny uh what the man that said about
Speaker 2: Sarah murdering his dad was true. Kenny insists that it's
Speaker 2: not that simple. Things are different now, and Voyd trusts her.
Speaker 2: Acosta begins to rant that she doesn't understand why anyone
Speaker 2: cares what Boyd thinks. When Ethan runs up to them
Speaker 2: screaming for help, he tells them Julie's on the ground
Speaker 2: and shaking and they need to help her. They all
Speaker 2: run off, following Ethan back to the ruins. Excuse me,
Speaker 2: my voice is still recovering being sick last week, oh man.
Speaker 2: Back in the dungeon, Julie is still on her knees,
Speaker 2: covering her ears, begging and begging for the screaming to stop.
Speaker 2: It does suddenly, and she looks up and she and
Speaker 2: Julian and Mary are She and Randall and Marielle are gone. Confused,
Speaker 2: she hears the voice of an old man calling behind her.
Speaker 2: You'll have to climb to see Martin chain to the wall,
Speaker 2: exactly as he was when Boyd found him at the
Speaker 2: beginning of season two.
Speaker 1: Didn't think we'd see him again, Nope.
Speaker 2: Me. I was like, oh, losing losing my shit when
Speaker 2: this scene happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hm.
Speaker 2: Uh. She hears Boyd's voice calling down from the bottom
Speaker 2: of the well. Martin tells him he'll have to wait,
Speaker 2: and then he looks at her and quick quietly says Julie.
Speaker 2: She asks how he knows her name. He needs the rope, please,
Speaker 2: Martin continues, Judy steps. Julie steps forward towards him, nervously,
Speaker 2: asking who's in the well. She picks up the rope
Speaker 2: and tosses it down, and we see Boyd trapped at
Speaker 2: the bottom of the well, exactly as he was at
Speaker 2: the beginning of season two. Julie has traveled in time.
Speaker 2: We hear Martin's voice yell down to Boyd, you have
Speaker 2: to hurry, They'll be back soon. Martin thanks Julie, and
Speaker 2: she asks again who's down there. He tells her she
Speaker 2: needs to leave and that this isn't safe for her.
Speaker 2: He tells her to go, and Julie rushes forward to leave,
Speaker 2: but then turns back to ask him another question, and
Speaker 2: he's gone chains and shackled. Terrified, Julie continues forward. She
Speaker 2: opens the door and it leads her into the monster tunnels.
Speaker 2: She turns around and the door she came through is gone.
Speaker 2: She is in the tunnels under the town. She pulls
Speaker 2: a lighter from her pocket and desperately tries to get
Speaker 2: it to work ahead of her. She hears the whispers
Speaker 2: of her mother's voice and victors from when they excuse
Speaker 2: me Jesus, from when the Matthew's house originally collapsed and
Speaker 2: they were in the tunnels. She calls out to her mom,
Speaker 2: but Tabitha can't hear her. She begins to hear the
Speaker 2: monster screaming in the distance when Acosta, Kenny, and Ethan
Speaker 2: reach her and pull her body pull her body from
Speaker 2: the ruin. She immediately snaps back to the present time,
Speaker 2: and she pulls Ethan into a huge hug. Kenny and
Speaker 2: Acosta ask if they ask if she's okay, dude.
Speaker 1: This flips everything I know.
Speaker 2: I know. It's what I really thought, that Tabitha was
Speaker 2: going to be doing time travel, and that she was
Speaker 2: going to be like coming back to from Villain different years,
Speaker 2: and that was what the bottles on the tree were
Speaker 2: going to be or like for different attimpts.
Speaker 3: That's what I've been assuming, like I've I've been assuming
Speaker 3: that the numbers in the in the bottles are like
Speaker 3: the birth years of various Tabithas, and that you know,
Speaker 3: there's one like you, one starting with two and then
Speaker 3: it's sort of feature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like that's my that's my theory anyway.
Speaker 3: But that's what the numbers and the bottles mean, that
Speaker 3: they're all of the or either the.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Would be.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the Yeah, because there's not a
Speaker 3: year recent and effort to be like the date that
Speaker 3: they arrived in from mill so it would have to.
Speaker 2: Be for years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but uh, yeah, I mean this flips everything on
Speaker 3: its head.
Speaker 1: And I have a theory about this scene.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, Jesse, do you think that I
Speaker 3: should say it or do you think it's a spoiler
Speaker 3: for or do you think it's a spoiler for future episodes?
Speaker 2: I would save it just for safety.
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, I have.
Speaker 3: I know, I have a crazy fucking theory about this scene,
Speaker 3: and I will talk about it in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Of all the people who I thought were going to
Speaker 2: be the one to throw the rope, Julie was near
Speaker 2: the bottom of my list.
Speaker 3: Yes, seriously, all right, Julie just became a very very
Speaker 3: important character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, majorly big time. Over at the Sheriff's station, Donna
Speaker 2: stares at the window, listening to the end of Boyd's story.
Speaker 2: She tells Boyd he needs to bring Fatima back. Boyd
Speaker 2: says not yet, and Donna says nothing will help unless
Speaker 2: they have a plan to resurrect Tilly. She worries what
Speaker 2: will happen when people find out. Boyd says people will understand,
Speaker 2: just like they did with Sarah, but Donna insists that
Speaker 2: people did not understand Boyd's decision with Sarah. They just
Speaker 2: accepted it because he told them to. He says, well,
Speaker 2: he'll tell them again, and Donna says it won't work
Speaker 2: this time because the people don't trust him anymore, not
Speaker 2: like they did. Ellis says that he'll take the blame.
Speaker 2: He'll say that he did it. Donna begins to cry, saying, no,
Speaker 2: that won't work. It won't be enough. It won't change
Speaker 2: the fact that it happened in the first place. It
Speaker 2: won't change that there's either something evil inside of Thotoma
Speaker 2: that's controlling her or that this place has finally broken
Speaker 2: her mind. Either way, it's only a matter of time
Speaker 2: before it happens again. Boyd insists that he and Ellis
Speaker 2: can watch her and she won't be a threat to
Speaker 2: anyone else, but Donna says that they will all. Donna
Speaker 2: says she knows that they all just want this to
Speaker 2: be okay, but if he doesn't tell everyone, then she will.
Speaker 2: She begs him not to make her do that and
Speaker 2: storms out of the office. Boyd steers after Donna a
Speaker 2: moment and then turns to the office turns to go
Speaker 2: into the office to grab some supplies. Tabitha, Sarah, and
Speaker 2: Victor head into the church basement. They creep down the
Speaker 2: stairs slowly as Victor describes what happened that day. Victor
Speaker 2: has a flashback to himself as a young boy, reaching
Speaker 2: the bottom of the stairs and seeing Christopher and Jasper
Speaker 2: sitting across from each other having a conversation. He tells
Speaker 2: Tabitha that Jasper was telling secrets and then Christopher got angry.
Speaker 2: But then his memory changes. He sees Jasper slumped over
Speaker 2: in the chair, not moving. He suddenly realizes it was
Speaker 2: never Jasper talking. It was the boy in white. He
Speaker 2: was the one telling secrets to Christopher. He said. The
Speaker 2: answers are at the end. The answers to the end
Speaker 2: are at the beginning. That it started with the children,
Speaker 2: what the others did to them. Tabitha asks what others,
Speaker 2: and he says the people that they loved. He says,
Speaker 2: the children were born in the dark, and they were
Speaker 2: murdered in the dark. Someone who loved them told them
Speaker 2: a story, and the story gave them hope. And when
Speaker 2: the children were laid on the stones, they poured their
Speaker 2: hope into the roots, and those roots became the symbol,
Speaker 2: and the symbol became the tree, the far away tree.
Speaker 2: Sarah interjects, the Boy and White told Christopher to save
Speaker 2: the children, he would have to go through the tree,
Speaker 2: and this made Christopher angry. Victor stops talking and begins
Speaker 2: to look very sad. Tabitha asks him what's happened, and
Speaker 2: he said, Christopher refused to go through the tree, so
Speaker 2: he told his mother what the Boy and White said.
Speaker 2: That's why she left us. Victor said, he's hit with
Speaker 2: the realization that his own words are what he believes
Speaker 2: cousted his mother to leave him in Eloise when they
Speaker 2: were children.
Speaker 1: Stop breaking my heart, Victor.
Speaker 2: I know that scene was incredible. Yeah, Scott, Wow, Scott
Speaker 2: McCord really deserves an Emmy nomination this year.
Speaker 1: He really does. He really does.
Speaker 3: Like I was telling somebody the other day, I like
Speaker 3: I feel I feel kind of bad for Harold Parano
Speaker 3: because like he delivered that fuck that performance that he
Speaker 3: fucking delivered in episode two, Yeah, was like nothing I've
Speaker 3: ever seen. Absolutely, and then all seasons been Scottcord.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he hasn't like Scott McCord's had the emotional like
Speaker 2: cornerstone of the season. Yeah, Harold spent more time being
Speaker 2: like furious at everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so never never forget people like Scott McCord
Speaker 3: has just been.
Speaker 1: Fucking amazing this season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, please never forget about Harold pear knows fucking mind
Speaker 3: blowing performance in episode two.
Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely, at least they can both be nominated and
Speaker 2: they don't have to compete against each other.
Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly, hear me.
Speaker 2: Emmy's yes, dominate my boys, yes.
Speaker 3: Please please, I mean, and they wouldn't be they wouldn't be.
Speaker 1: Competing anyway, because like, yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it'd be lead actor and supporting.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: At the Talisman, hut Elgin holds up his snapshot to
Speaker 2: see that this is the location it was trying to
Speaker 2: show him. He calls out for Fatima, letting him know that,
Speaker 2: letting her know that it's him. He opens the door,
Speaker 2: and she looks surprised to see him. Boyd and Ellis
Speaker 2: approached the Talisman Hut and Boyd instructs Ellis to stay
Speaker 2: about four or five hours away from town. He insists
Speaker 2: they stay off the path to the settlement so they
Speaker 2: remain undiscovered. He tells them he will leave supplies for
Speaker 2: them at the Talisman Hunt twice a week and if
Speaker 2: they need anything, to leave a note. Boyd says that
Speaker 2: if things get worse and he needs and he needs
Speaker 2: him to promise, but then he trails off, unsure of
Speaker 2: what to say. Ellis said that he knows that his
Speaker 2: dad doesn't want him to do this, but he asks
Speaker 2: that if he had the chance to run off with
Speaker 2: Abby after what she did, would he have taken it.
Speaker 2: Boyd pats Ellis's shoulder and they continue walking without him answering.
Speaker 2: They reach the hut and the door is open and
Speaker 2: Fatima is gone. They both kind of panic and start
Speaker 2: searching around, calling her name. Elgin and Fatima reach the
Speaker 2: root cellar. He tells her that Ellis is waiting for her. Inside.
Speaker 2: He tells her there's a secret room down there that
Speaker 2: no one knows about, and he helps her down the stairs.
Speaker 2: He brings her to the back in the creepy ass room,
Speaker 2: and while he's showing her around, Fatima calls out to Ellis,
Speaker 2: but there's no answer. Fatima can tell something's off and
Speaker 2: she turns to leave, saying she'll wait for him back
Speaker 2: at the Shock, but Elgin stops her, saying she can't
Speaker 2: do that. She asks him to get out of her way,
Speaker 2: but he says that he has she has to be there.
Speaker 2: He tells her this is the only place the baby
Speaker 2: will be safe. She tells him there is no baby,
Speaker 2: but he insists that there is. He hesitates for a
Speaker 2: moment and then says, it's just not yours.
Speaker 3: Okay, Adam, Like, okay, that that was a creepy ass line,
Speaker 3: but okay, she was just saying last week that she's
Speaker 3: she was insisting that she was pregnant mm hmm, and
Speaker 3: now she's saying there's no baby.
Speaker 2: I mean she knows there's nothing, that there's not a
Speaker 2: human baby in there.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine how much that must have freaked her
Speaker 3: the fuck out when he said that it's just not
Speaker 3: yours because.
Speaker 1: Is Cowboy Monster's baby.
Speaker 3: And Fatma is going to turn into him she's turning
Speaker 3: into a monster, hot Boy, and because her baby is
Speaker 3: going to turn her into a monster, and she and
Speaker 3: Cowboy she's gonna kill Ellis. She and Cowboy Monster are
Speaker 3: going to be together and fat Boy, the fat Boy
Speaker 3: ship will live on.
Speaker 2: Marry me, Cowboy Monster. We never have to be Almo,
Speaker 2: fat Boy.
Speaker 3: My ship's on this show are fat Boy, Elmono, and Jadatha.
Speaker 5: Oh you're forgetting about Elmno because gul Gin is a classic,
Speaker 5: but Elmno really takes the cake. Yeah yeah, let me
Speaker 5: find my place.
Speaker 2: It's just not yours. Bobama looks terrified and tries to
Speaker 2: push past Elgin to get out of the cellar, but
Speaker 2: once again she is rocked with pain that drops to
Speaker 2: do her knees. Elgin tells her that the baby knows
Speaker 2: she has to stay. She pleads with Elgin to get
Speaker 2: out of her way, finally pushing him aside and managing
Speaker 2: to crawl up the stairs on her hands and knees.
Speaker 2: Elgin apologizes and then grabs her around her middle and
Speaker 2: drags her back down into the cellar, and she screams
Speaker 2: for help. He insists this is for the best and
Speaker 2: forces her into the back room as she screams and
Speaker 2: pleads for help. End of episode, damn away, take my kidneys.
Speaker 3: Take Yeah, hey, man, Elgin will do anything for his woman.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll do anything.
Speaker 2: For even do that.
Speaker 3: Yes, but see, okay, see, you know I'm laughing and
Speaker 3: stuff about about fat Boy and il No. No, but
Speaker 3: I'm telling you people, Jadatha is happening. Jada Thaught is
Speaker 3: gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I feel it my bones because we.
Speaker 3: Know, I mean, we know that Jada's moving back into
Speaker 3: that house next season.
Speaker 2: We deserve Jadatha. That's the ship, we deserve them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jada is trying to quit drinking and he can't
Speaker 3: do that if he's in the bar.
Speaker 1: He's moving back to the house.
Speaker 3: And and I I've you know, I've been saying for
Speaker 3: a while now that like Jim, ever since Jim got
Speaker 3: that phone call from on Thomas and Thomas said, but
Speaker 3: they aren't your kids anymore. As soon as he said that,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, Jim's Jim's dying next season.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see Tabitha ever like cheating on Jim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't. I don't think she would do that either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that I think we're gonna lose
Speaker 3: Jim next season. And because he doesn't have a story
Speaker 3: of his own that's connected to the town.
Speaker 2: And he's not super popular with the fan base, I
Speaker 2: could see him being on the chopping block.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't have his own story that's connected to
Speaker 3: the town, and he's interfering with Jade and Tabitha's story,
Speaker 3: which is the like everything revolves around. In my opinion,
Speaker 3: everything revolves around four characters in this show, Jade, Tabitha, Ethan,
Speaker 3: and Victor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jim is getting in the way of that.
Speaker 3: And he doesn't like Victor either, you know, he's like
Speaker 3: he's interfering with everything. He's in the way. He's got
Speaker 3: to go. So like that's I I think that's gonna
Speaker 3: happen next season. And Jada thought is gonna end up
Speaker 3: being a thing. It's just gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I'm here for it.
Speaker 3: By the way, So getting back to Acosta, you said
Speaker 3: that you think that her name might be Abby mm hmm.
Speaker 3: I was actually thinking what if her name, what if
Speaker 3: her name is Christine, like because she was named after
Speaker 3: her father, Christopher.
Speaker 2: Wooo.
Speaker 1: They never found his body, No, they didn't. He might
Speaker 1: have gotten out of Frumville.
Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he might just trying to think, like what her like,
Speaker 3: what is her first name?
Speaker 2: What's the reason that he'd made a secret? It has
Speaker 2: to be something that's going to affect people.
Speaker 3: Has she has she come cross paths with Victory yet?
Speaker 2: I don't think so because if he.
Speaker 3: God now, because if Victor like might might see her
Speaker 3: name tag on her uniform and be like Acosta, that
Speaker 3: was Christopher's last name.
Speaker 2: You know, we don't know it, do we?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Interesting? Interesting and interesting interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But but I think your theory is more likely,
Speaker 3: right because like if if something like that happened, then
Speaker 3: if something like that happened, we wouldn't need like Victor's
Speaker 3: just Victor could just see her name tag and be
Speaker 3: like Acosta, that was Christopher's last name.
Speaker 1: So her name doesn't have to be Christine, you know.
Speaker 3: But like so I think Abby probably makes more sense
Speaker 3: because it's just a another way to fuck with boyd. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I'm I'm guessing it's either Abby or or
Speaker 3: Christine or Christina.
Speaker 1: I like I like that, yeah theory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so who is your uh who who's going in
Speaker 3: the box, and who's getting your pancakes? I think we
Speaker 3: both are gonna put be put the same person in
Speaker 3: the box this week.
Speaker 2: Can you guess she? I don't know. It's Jim. It's
Speaker 2: always Jim. I hate Jim. Yes, yeah, Jim is hardcore
Speaker 2: in the box for me this week. Uh yeah, worst
Speaker 2: Jim yet, yep, the worst.
Speaker 1: He fucking has to go, he has to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my pancakes I like, I like that. But my
Speaker 2: pan cakes are going to Henry for being the first
Speaker 2: character on from to tell Jim to shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Henry. A double stack of pancakes for you. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: I also Uh, Sarah and Tabitha can split a stack
Speaker 2: of pancakes for helping Victor. But my man, pancakes are
Speaker 2: all about Henry because I've been telling him to shut
Speaker 2: the fuck up since the first time I saw him
Speaker 2: on screen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll pay punk It is given pancakes to Sarah
Speaker 3: for helping to jog Victor's mother.
Speaker 1: Excellent choice.
Speaker 3: I yeah, I'm I'm also putting Jim Jim in the
Speaker 3: box and laughing about that.
Speaker 1: We were doing a recap. I think it was for
Speaker 1: like one of the first episodes, and like yeah, Jim's
Speaker 1: going in my box. I did not come out right.
Speaker 2: Just stay away from my box, yes.
Speaker 1: Please, but uh yeah, Jim's going in the box. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna get the pancakes to Jade.
Speaker 3: Because I I I just I loved everything that he
Speaker 3: said to.
Speaker 2: In this episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I loved that he called Jim out on,
Speaker 3: you know, on taking away tab with his agency game. Yes,
Speaker 3: like that was you know, that's that was a very
Speaker 3: nice feminist move on his part.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, who is he talking about your filling your
Speaker 2: wife's head with ideas? Like are you well, Kennedy? Like
Speaker 2: what's wrong with you? Leave her? Oh? I'm sorry that
Speaker 2: that got me hot, Like yeah, exchange.
Speaker 1: The thing is, like you know, and and the funny
Speaker 1: thing is is he like.
Speaker 3: He was calling him selfish and arrogant and egotistical and narcissistic.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, Jade was a total fucking.
Speaker 3: Douche when he first got it from them, but he
Speaker 3: settled down and Jim he's showing growth he has and
Speaker 3: Jim still has it out for him because of his
Speaker 3: own fucking insecurity, like he he does not like he
Speaker 3: is shot down everything that Jade has tried to do
Speaker 3: like he's he's like he tried to Jade tried to
Speaker 3: show him the journal with the symbol, and he slapped
Speaker 3: it away. You wouldn't even look him like he.
Speaker 1: He has just blown him off time and time again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jim wants to be Jim is mad that
Speaker 3: like Jade is trying to figure things out and do
Speaker 3: it without him. And and because Jade called him teacup
Speaker 3: and insulted him and you know which, which wasn't very nice.
Speaker 1: But he's but it. But it hurt his ego so badly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that he's willing to throw everybody under the bus
Speaker 3: just to hate Jade for hurting his ego, Like, because
Speaker 3: he's so insecure.
Speaker 1: Love Jade. But he's pretty high on the narcissism scale.
Speaker 2: I don't see.
Speaker 1: I don't think he is, because I think he's very
Speaker 1: self aware.
Speaker 2: Like I think he's gotten better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like every time he's every time he's
Speaker 3: been a.
Speaker 1: Every time he's been a dick, he's like corrected himself.
Speaker 2: You know the most the worst of his narcissism this
Speaker 2: season is when he went out to pick the fruit
Speaker 2: and he was like, I'm too good to be picking
Speaker 2: this fruit. Yeah, he's been trying to be a lot
Speaker 2: more helpful lately.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, And I just and and I like,
Speaker 3: I like that every time, you know, every time somebody
Speaker 3: has called him out on being a douche, he immediately
Speaker 3: like just tugs his tail between his legs and he's
Speaker 3: just like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: My default settings douche. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to talk to people. And we
Speaker 1: haven't even had to see any of that.
Speaker 3: Ye, Like, he was still a douche last season, even
Speaker 3: though he was getting better by you know, he was
Speaker 3: still being addict to Victor. But uh but yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean like, but yeah, he's Jade's been great this year.
Speaker 2: And a great season for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it really has been. And I think, like
Speaker 3: I think and Chen had a huge effect.
Speaker 1: On him for sure.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, but U but yeah, he's gonna he's gonna get
Speaker 3: my pancakes. This for this episode, you guys. The next
Speaker 3: This episode.
Speaker 1: Was so great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of mind blowing that they introduced time travel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I did not think that they were going
Speaker 1: to go down that route.
Speaker 2: We're getting an on slought of answers in the next
Speaker 2: few episodes. So I hope everyone complaining about it can
Speaker 2: zip you lips like it's coming.
Speaker 1: I know that through the I know, I know that.
Speaker 3: I know you said that this might be your favorite episode.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, it starting with eight, it just keeps
Speaker 3: getting better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's honestly, ten is probably my favorite. It's like,
Speaker 2: the finale is freaking incredible. But episode A definitely has
Speaker 2: my favorite moment of the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, episode ten is honestly, I I really I sat
Speaker 3: down and I thought about this, and I think it
Speaker 3: might actually be my second favorite TV episode.
Speaker 1: Of all time.
Speaker 3: It's really good, the first being the Six Feet Under
Speaker 3: series finale.
Speaker 1: You didn't watch Six Feet Under to do.
Speaker 2: This series good things?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a fucking masterpiece.
Speaker 2: I've heard a lot about it.
Speaker 1: Just that that that serious final and serious finales are
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that series finale was just an absolute fucking masterpiece.
Speaker 1: It was just beautiful.
Speaker 3: But I think that from season three finale might be
Speaker 3: my second favorite episode of TV ever, Like, just that
Speaker 3: fucking good. It is so fucking good. And two more weeks, guys,
Speaker 3: I know, two more weeks. I can't I cannot handle
Speaker 3: people like talking about it being boring or we're not
Speaker 3: getting answers, we get okay. In episode three, there's a
Speaker 3: major revelation right towards the end, and you think it's
Speaker 3: gonna you think that's gonna be it.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a great way to end the episode.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 3: The last fucking five seconds, three major what the fuck
Speaker 3: moments happened. Yeah, it's gonna blow your guys's minds seriously.
Speaker 3: And with that said, I want to address something really quick.
Speaker 3: I'm getting really, really, really frustrated and upset. I have
Speaker 3: been attacked viciously on social media lately, to the point
Speaker 3: that that like people were reporting me to MGM.
Speaker 1: MGM knows better.
Speaker 3: Fortunately, yeah, because you know, I mean they've they've looked
Speaker 3: into it.
Speaker 1: They know I haven't done anything wrong, but I have.
Speaker 3: If you look at our episode we did. We did
Speaker 3: a collab with the movie blog Anthony.
Speaker 1: Great guy.
Speaker 3: Checked out his channel if you haven't subscribed, really good
Speaker 3: one of my His channel is one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: Love Anthony.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's great.
Speaker 3: We did a collab with him before the season started,
Speaker 3: and this was before we got screeners, and I mentioned
Speaker 3: one of my theories during that episode and I mentioned it.
Speaker 3: My My theory was that was that Tabitha is the
Speaker 3: reincarnation of Miranda. I first started thinking that in season
Speaker 3: one with the bracelet it, but I didn't really voice it.
Speaker 3: I just kind of kept it in the back of
Speaker 3: my mind. But then in season two when Jade and
Speaker 3: Tabitha were in the bar and Jade showed Tabitha the
Speaker 3: picture of Victor or the picture of Christopher with Victor
Speaker 3: in the background, and she said, yeah, that's Victor and
Speaker 3: he said, oh wow, you picked up on that a
Speaker 3: lot faster than I did. That rang a bell in
Speaker 3: my head and I was like, she She's got to
Speaker 3: be Miranda. And so at that point I started, like,
Speaker 3: I started talking about it, and I think I mentioned
Speaker 3: it on the show before our our collab with the
Speaker 3: movie Blog, but I know that I talked about my
Speaker 3: about that theory during that gap you mentioned a.
Speaker 2: Couple of times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a couple of weeks ago, we saw the
Speaker 3: episode with the scene where you know, we're Tabitha. Tabitha
Speaker 3: saw the drawing of the totems, and we saw that
Speaker 3: dream that she had as a little girl. That to
Speaker 3: me was proof that she had been in Fromville for
Speaker 3: many lifetimes because that little girl was in eighteen hundreds clothes,
Speaker 3: you know, And.
Speaker 1: So I tweeted, I retweeted.
Speaker 3: MGM put out a tweet after the end of that episode,
Speaker 3: like commenting on that episode and the ending of that episode.
Speaker 3: It said something like that ending, what's going on? And
Speaker 3: I retweeted it, tagging MGM and said, Tabitha is the
Speaker 3: reincarnation of Miranda and we just found out that she's
Speaker 3: been there many lifetimes.
Speaker 1: And people.
Speaker 2: Have been.
Speaker 3: People have been trying to destroy our channel over it.
Speaker 3: They've been reporting our videos.
Speaker 1: Saying that I like.
Speaker 3: That I somehow knew something and then I was trying
Speaker 3: to pass off a spoiler as a theory, and it's
Speaker 3: been absolutely vicious. They've been trying to ruin us over it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's really upsetting. And these are and some of
Speaker 3: the people that are involved are the same people who
Speaker 3: have been full on stalking me for two years now,
Speaker 3: and it's really upsetting. And it's turning like they've turned
Speaker 3: people other content creators against me over this just because
Speaker 3: they don't like they're upset that I came up with
Speaker 3: this theory.
Speaker 1: And it's really infuriating.
Speaker 3: So if you guys like happened to see any of this,
Speaker 3: like any of these accusations about you know, Cyborg.
Speaker 1: Queen is like leaking spoilers.
Speaker 3: They've accused me of leaking spoilers via DM for The
Speaker 3: Walking Dead for years. I've like, I've never been aware
Speaker 3: of spoilers for The Walking Dead, like I never, like,
Speaker 3: I didn't keep up with spoiler sites or anything. And
Speaker 3: one of the people saying that actually was messaging me
Speaker 3: to try to get spoilers for the Book of Carol
Speaker 3: and I refused. I wouldn't tell her, and I think
Speaker 3: that pissed her off and that's why she's saying.
Speaker 1: But Yeah, they've reported me to.
Speaker 3: MGM and said that I've been leaking the episodes and it's.
Speaker 1: Just really infuriating.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, and there's a channel, a competing channel that.
Speaker 2: Is doing this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and unfortunately, same competing channel who impersonated us tried
Speaker 3: to pass pass themselves off as as our channel, and
Speaker 3: you know, like reported every single one of my videos,
Speaker 3: which got me shadow band. We're getting our videos reported again.
Speaker 3: If you guys see any of this happening, please please.
Speaker 1: Let us know. Send us an email.
Speaker 3: Antler Queen's podcast at gmail dot com or you can
Speaker 3: you know, you can message us on social media as well.
Speaker 3: We are at on Facebook, Instagram and threads. We are
Speaker 3: at and TikTok, we are at Cyberg Queen Media, and
Speaker 3: on x we are Cyborg Queen TV. Please let us
Speaker 3: know if you're what like, if you're seeing this stuff,
Speaker 3: because it's just the harassment is over the top and
Speaker 3: we can't we can't deal with it anymore.
Speaker 1: It's very much. It's it's way too much.
Speaker 2: I would add in just that we've also been working
Speaker 2: really hard on reporting people who are posting spoilers and
Speaker 2: both in the Facebook groups and on Twitter, and I
Speaker 2: read it trying to get spoilers taken down because this
Speaker 2: season is so good and people deserve to see it unspoiled.
Speaker 2: So it extra irritates me that we're being accused of
Speaker 2: something that we are actively doing the opposite of and
Speaker 2: trying really hard to make sure that other people don't
Speaker 2: get spoiled. Like eat a Dick. Guys, not trying to
Speaker 2: hurt our show. We just love it and we want
Speaker 2: to talk about it, and we're still going to do
Speaker 2: it even if you keep trying to take us down.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna We're not gonna let you ruin this us.
Speaker 1: Nope, nope, no no.
Speaker 3: And you know, and and the people that are doing this,
Speaker 3: if you look at their pages, you'll find out that
Speaker 3: they like to hate people a lot. That's they make
Speaker 3: a full time job out of it. We're not the
Speaker 3: only people that they do this too, but they're currently
Speaker 3: They've been obsessed with me personally for the past two
Speaker 3: years because I because I defended myself against something really
Speaker 3: terrible that they did, and they're upset that that's following
Speaker 3: them around and it's bad. Yeah, teacup and hysteria. I'm
Speaker 3: very sorry about that. Guys. We are behind with those
Speaker 3: two because it's it's been a really rough week or
Speaker 3: two with the I've been just a fucking mess because
Speaker 3: of the harassment, and like, I've been a fucking mess
Speaker 3: this week because our videos are getting reported again, which
Speaker 3: is just scaring the shit out of me because that
Speaker 3: like destroyed our channel before. I lost five hundred subscribers,
Speaker 3: which was like a third of our followers. So I've
Speaker 3: it's it's been a bad it's been a bad couple
Speaker 3: of weeks, and we're not we're very scared about the
Speaker 3: You know about the election and everything going on. It's
Speaker 3: just it hasn't been a good couple weeks for mental
Speaker 3: health for either of us. There's a reason why we're
Speaker 3: a live tonight exactly exactly. We normally would not be
Speaker 3: going live right after the episode, but we needed to
Speaker 3: get this out there, and.
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't want like from in.
Speaker 3: The Walking Dead and Yellow Jackets are our flagship shows
Speaker 3: and we will never let those laps. So we had
Speaker 3: to kind of let ourselves get behind a little bit.
Speaker 1: On Teacup in Hysteria, we have some.
Speaker 2: Episodes taped though, so they'll be come.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm actually going to upload those probably tomorrow Monday. No,
Speaker 3: they have to go up tomorrow because Monday we are
Speaker 3: posting our Hannah Jeremy interview. That was yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 3: we're posting our Handah Jeremy interview on Monday. So the
Speaker 3: so Teacup and Hysteria should go up tomorrow, Sunday or today,
Speaker 3: I guess whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, it might be later on in the evening.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: We'll see how the day goes, but they will they
Speaker 3: will get up tomorrow. If for some reason something happens
Speaker 3: and they can't because you know, my dog grew a
Speaker 3: second head and I had to run him to the vet. Sorry,
Speaker 3: Like I will let you guys know. But they should
Speaker 3: both be up tomorrow. So we're we took the week
Speaker 3: off from Hysteria just because we're behind a week, so
Speaker 3: we're you know, we're going to upload the next episode
Speaker 3: this week, and then this coming week we'll record our
Speaker 3: next episode of Hysteria, and then in a couple of
Speaker 3: weeks we're going to start up our subverance coverage.
Speaker 1: So that'll be fun.
Speaker 2: I'm excited about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also, with everything going on right now in the country,
Speaker 3: with people just being really scared and with all of
Speaker 3: the harassment that we've been experiencing, I'm really really itching
Speaker 3: to get my fan Pack initiative going, which is basically
Speaker 3: going to be an effort to bring fans content, creators, fanficriters, writers, journalists, actors,
Speaker 3: whoever wants to.
Speaker 1: Get involved that's involved with fandoms.
Speaker 3: It's going to be an organized effort for fans to
Speaker 3: come together to do good, to try to combat toxicity
Speaker 3: and fandoms and also to like to try to organize
Speaker 3: efforts to help others as well, Like you know, if
Speaker 3: there's a cast member from a show that we like
Speaker 3: that's really involved in a charity, like, we could do
Speaker 3: a foundation, or we can do a fundraiser for that charity.
Speaker 3: If there's somebody in a fantom that like really needs
Speaker 3: help financially, like we did with our friend he Knew
Speaker 3: who sadly passed away a few weeks ago, you know,
Speaker 3: we can come together and try to help that person
Speaker 3: and run a go fund me just stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know, if there's a disaster, we could do.
Speaker 3: A fundraiser, like just basically mobilizing people to.
Speaker 1: Represent fandom in a really positive.
Speaker 3: Way and to combat toxicity. And we have ways online
Speaker 3: ways to do that online as well. You know, if
Speaker 3: there's a nasty thread, we take it over by posting
Speaker 3: silly jiffs like do you watch Colbert?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Did you did you see the recent episode where he
Speaker 3: was showing the clips with the Okay, So Colbert the
Speaker 3: other day was like, you know, he would he would
Speaker 3: go to uh, he would say, like he was about
Speaker 3: show a clip of something you know, politically related, and
Speaker 3: it would go to a jiff of a puppy writing
Speaker 3: a duck.
Speaker 1: And like, you know, doing.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that, if there's a thread that's just getting
Speaker 3: really nasty, that's related to fandom doing stuff like that,
Speaker 3: taking over the thread and posting like cute and ridiculous
Speaker 3: gifts and you know, stuff like that. So it's going
Speaker 3: to be just fans coming together for good. If you
Speaker 3: are interested in getting involved in US, we need to
Speaker 3: find some people who are really good at organizing and
Speaker 3: mobilizing people, because I don't know how to get this started.
Speaker 3: Like I have all the ideas in the world, but
Speaker 3: I just don't know how to Like I'm not good
Speaker 3: when it comes to building communities. I just don't know
Speaker 3: how to do it. If this is something that you'd
Speaker 3: like to get involved with, please let me know. I'm
Speaker 3: really eager to get it started because I just want to, like,
Speaker 3: you know, create some amount of positive change.
Speaker 1: However I can. But that's you know.
Speaker 3: I'll just send us an email if that's something you're
Speaker 3: interested in, and I will stop talking about that now.
Speaker 2: But so.
Speaker 3: What so Jesse, with only two episodes to go, let's
Speaker 3: pretend like we haven't seen any we haven't seen past
Speaker 3: episode eight at all. What are your theories for how
Speaker 3: for like, what's going to happen? And over the next
Speaker 3: two episodes, h.
Speaker 2: Thodoma gives birth to twenty five crows and they eat
Speaker 2: Elgin or I'll they eat Ellis.
Speaker 1: Oh like the money gun, like the monster money gun.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I predict that Donna successfully resurrects Tilly and
Speaker 2: and the town makes Sarah their queen.
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that, uh.
Speaker 3: I do not think that Fatima is going to give
Speaker 3: birth to twenty five crows. I think that she is
Speaker 3: going to give birth to to fat Boy baby.
Speaker 2: And in kindness of Ravens.
Speaker 3: Yes, she's gonna She's gonna give birth to the fat
Speaker 3: Boy love child, and it's gonna it's gonna be really
Speaker 3: hard because she's gonna want to keep the baby because
Speaker 3: you know, she loves loves Cowboy.
Speaker 1: They're meant to be together.
Speaker 3: But but Elgin brought her down there because that's supposed
Speaker 3: to be his and Kimono Ladies baby that they wanted
Speaker 3: to adopt.
Speaker 2: It's gonna look like the baby from twy, like the
Speaker 2: little baby Ratitudey or Yeah Resume or whatever her name is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And eventually, like there's gonna be so much fighting
Speaker 3: and they're not gonna be able to None of them
Speaker 3: are going to get along over this. So Fatima and
Speaker 3: Ellis and Elgin and Kimmodal Lady and Cowboy Monster are
Speaker 3: all going to move into a house together and live
Speaker 3: as one big family polyle. Yeah, I agree. Cowboy Monster's
Speaker 3: going to change his ways. He's he's gonna, you know,
Speaker 3: he's he's gonna basically act like a human from now on.
Speaker 3: And that's yeah, and and that's what's gonna happen. And
Speaker 3: you know, and Stepdaddy Jane.
Speaker 2: And Stepdaddy Jane's that's just that's just reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I saw somebody it's taking off man stuff, Daddy Jane
Speaker 3: picking off. I saw somebody else use that term too,
Speaker 3: So you heard it here first, Yes.
Speaker 2: Kelly coined it. Yeah, I'm just taking partial credit because
Speaker 2: I sit here and look good.
Speaker 1: Yes. All right, So anything else that you want to
Speaker 1: say before we wrap up.
Speaker 2: No, I gotta go. I like falling apart, like take.
Speaker 3: Some Enatrayl and just knock out. It's two am here,
Speaker 3: so I'm a little tired. Yeah, well, but I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna fall asleep because I had my my ghost energy drink,
Speaker 3: So I don't know. But all right, guys, this is
Speaker 3: a great episode. It's only going to get better and
Speaker 3: we'll see y'all soon.
Speaker 1: Take care, bye, guys,