WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.520 The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. Hi, 2 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:04.679 this is Adrian Barbo. 3 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:07.480 You're listening to tech Talk Radio and you're gonna learn 4 00:00:07.719 --> 00:00:08.199 a lot. 5 00:00:10.679 --> 00:00:14.279 Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, 6 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:17.440 I'm Sean de Weird, and I'm justin leme. Welcome. We 7 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:20.440 are the show of course that talks about computers. 8 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:23.800 Technology and the Internet and all things video games and 9 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:24.359 stuff like that. 10 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:26.039 Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be back. 11 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:27.359 I mean it's been a couple of weeks, been on 12 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:29.000 vacation and stuff, but it has. 13 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:31.480 You were kind of busy last week with the water 14 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:34.000 park is doing some different things and you had to 15 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:34.600 be a part of that. 16 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:35.320 Yeah. 17 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:37.719 Every year when the kids all go back to school, 18 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:42.200 you know, we're still open for business, so they get 19 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:45.399 all the full time staff to basically work the water parks. 20 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:49.159 So some people are lifeguards, some people are you know, 21 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:53.520 trash pick up, some people are guest services. And I 22 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:56.079 was slinging hot dogs and French fries all week. 23 00:00:56.799 --> 00:00:59.039 How was it? Did you like it? 24 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:00.000 It's actually not too bad. 25 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:02.679 I mean it's a very small little menu. It's the 26 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:04.439 only place in the park that was open that was 27 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:06.799 selling alcohol, so about like people coming in there. But 28 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:10.519 you know, it's literally like five things to serve. And 29 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:14.280 the downside is, you know, you're on your feet all 30 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:16.640 day and some people are going to laugh at me 31 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:18.159 for that, but I'm not used to being on my 32 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:21.680 feet all day. I'm a desk jockey, you know, but 33 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:23.280 being on my feet all day, you know, it was 34 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:25.640 a little a little bit of a challenge, but it 35 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:27.799 was fun. It was a change of pace, and I 36 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:30.959 enjoyed it. So now that week is done. Now we're 37 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:36.480 into the period between well now and Labor Day because 38 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:39.040 Labor Day we close for the season. So we've got 39 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:40.760 a couple of weeks left, but we're not open during 40 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:43.840 the week. We're only open on weekends, right, So it's 41 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:46.599 actually really quiet around there during the week. 42 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:47.920 Now. It's kind of interesting. 43 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:50.239 Would you recommend, like, if a family was coming up 44 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:53.159 to Denver, you know, to do a little vacation, should 45 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:54.680 they check it out? Because I mean, it's it's like 46 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:57.599 the world's or the nation's largest or one of them, right. 47 00:01:57.439 --> 00:01:59.200 It's America's largest water park. 48 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:02.799 We get to hear your voice, right, remember I am. 49 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:04.680 The voice of water World. Yeah, thanks for coming to 50 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:06.760 water World. America's largest water park. 51 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:07.799 You do that so well. 52 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:11.800 I highly recommend it. It's fun, it's an interesting place. 53 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:16.120 It is definitely an icon of Colorado. And yeah, I 54 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:18.680 would mention if you are coming up to Denver during 55 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:21.840 the summer months, Yeah, definitely go check it out. 56 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:25.159 All right, that's good. Now we're also seeing a look 57 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:28.159 at and as Sean said, it's a first look at 58 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:30.919 your new setup after you have dealt with all this 59 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:33.800 flooding and all the ripping out of that whole thing. 60 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.360 So you if you're just listening to the radio, you're 61 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:39.560 obviously not gonna be able to picture this. But Sean 62 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:41.439 and Andy are looking at the zoom. 63 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:42.560 Which we'll put up on the website. 64 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:43.000 Yeah. 65 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:44.039 But I used to be. 66 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.199 Up against this wall over here, and so the TV 67 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:49.439 was you never would see the TV because it was 68 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:53.439 always to my right against that wall. But then my 69 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:56.479 basement flooded. It was early June. It was like the 70 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:58.800 day after Mesa and Eric went to Japan, and we 71 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:01.159 talked about that, and you know, I had an extended 72 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:03.520 absence from tech Talk because I just I had no 73 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:07.599 more studio. So it finally got redone. We've got new carpet, 74 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:10.479 we put everything back down here, and I took the 75 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:17.439 opportunity to redesign reimagine my battle station per se and 76 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:20.719 instead of it just being mine, I've also set up 77 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:22.639 so it's a two person desk and I'll have to 78 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:24.960 send Sean the picture a little bit later. He actually 79 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:27.080 I'll throw it in the chat later. But anyway, it's 80 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:32.199 a dual desk and there's two battle stations, so whenever 81 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:34.719 Eric wants to use the computer, he'll use the one 82 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.719 that I'm on right now because it's the desktop. And 83 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:40.400 if I want to game, I'll just bring my laptop 84 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:42.400 and plug it in over here at the docking station. 85 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:46.840 And I bought a new twenty four or twenty seven inch, yes, 86 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:50.360 twenty seven inch curved gaming monitor from Costco, so I 87 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:52.000 can play on that one, so he can play on this, 88 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:54.639 I can play on that, or if we so choose, 89 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:58.879 we also have his Xbox connected to that other monitor. 90 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:03.280 I've got Xbox Game Pass on this PC and we've 91 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:05.639 got the Xbox on the main TV, so we can 92 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:08.080 have up to like three people, you know, three of 93 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:11.879 his friends playing Xbox, all on their own computer, monitor 94 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:15.919 or TV. So this is like the coolest house in 95 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:17.040 the neighborhood for kids. 96 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:20.240 That is pretty cool. They did a you did a 97 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:22.279 good job setting it resetting it up, and it was 98 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:24.639 kind of cool because you had like an open kind 99 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:25.759 of an open slate, right. 100 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.439 It was just yeah, it was. It was all from 101 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:31.079 scratch basically. I mean, we're not reusing hardly anything now. 102 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:34.079 The only downside is is the monitors. The monitor mount 103 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:36.879 that I have my triple monitors set up on this 104 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:39.120 desk is not as deep as the old one, so 105 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.959 the monitors are really really close and it actually kind 106 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:45.120 of concerns me so and II because air CASTA sits 107 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:47.000 so close to be able to play. So it's like 108 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:49.120 it's like you would be sitting and looking at like 109 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:52.360 a sixty inch TV from a foot away, Like it's 110 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:53.199 just not good. 111 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:55.279 So I have to do that to read the text, 112 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:58.199 I'm old, Yeah, well, we don't want Eric to be 113 00:04:58.279 --> 00:04:59.319 like that when he's like nine. 114 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:01.519 So I bought a keyboard train and I just I 115 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:03.839 got to install it on here. But this keyboard tray 116 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:05.720 should then allow him to be able to sit back 117 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:09.199 a little bit and uh and do this. And I'll 118 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:11.959 tell Sean. The hardest part Sean was trying to figure 119 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:14.399 out where to put my microphone, because no matter where 120 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:16.920 I put it, it would bump into a monitor. So what 121 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:19.160 I'm actually doing is I have it behind the monitor, 122 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:22.160 and I'm actually going underneath the monitor and back up 123 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:24.680 the good amount to be able to come and you know, 124 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:27.040 be able to talk to you guys. The other thing 125 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:29.279 I did I made sure of is when I redesigned this, 126 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:33.959 I didn't want to see a single cable and so 127 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:37.680 I took my time and I did it very very carefully, 128 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:40.720 and I made the wires look amazing, which has since 129 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:43.000 now been destroyed because Eric's down here playing with his 130 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:46.040 friends and there's cables everywhere. But I really tried to 131 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:49.079 make it really really good with cable management, and it 132 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:51.279 looks really sweet. And like I said, I'll send a 133 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:53.319 picture here. I'll have to find it, but I'll put 134 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:55.439 a picture in chat and let you let you guys see. 135 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:57.480 You use the runners I've seen, you know, like if 136 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:00.160 you go into you know, say Walmart or Best Buy 137 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:03.360 or whatever and you buy amount, they have these these 138 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:05.600 devices that could go on the wall. You can paint them, 139 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:08.199 and they're they're very I mean they're very they look 140 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:11.800 thin and they can do hiding for the cables. 141 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:15.360 Yeah, I did some of that. I also used a 142 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:19.439 little bit of the umbilical, the umbilic record there, Sean, 143 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:21.600 look at the chat there. Yeah, I put a picture 144 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:24.040 of our battle stations in it. But I did a 145 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:26.839 little bit of it umbilical. I did a little bit 146 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:29.360 of the white stuff to to kind of like the raceway, 147 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:34.040 a lot a lot of zip ties. But yeah, it uh, 148 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:36.000 it ends up. It ended up working out pretty well 149 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:36.480 in the end. 150 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:38.000 One of the things that I've seen a lot of 151 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:41.160 people doing. Now, Sean has got the maximum use of 152 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:46.199 lighting and color in his his cast. If you if 153 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:48.279 you jump onto our website, you can actually watch the 154 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:50.399 video from this you can see what we're talking about. 155 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:54.439 And he has done something super amazing. All of a sudden, 156 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:59.079 there is a camera floating above him from behind. You've 157 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:00.399 got to tell us how you did this. 158 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:05.279 So I've always wanted a camera angle from behind me 159 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:08.480 just to show like a wide shot of what my 160 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:11.720 setup is. It's kind of messy right now, so deal 161 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:15.439 with that. But so I have my old iPhone seven 162 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:21.759 plus plugged into power, connected to my WiFi running nd 163 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:24.920 I HXCM. This is an application that's free you can 164 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:28.199 download from the app store, which pushes an NDII stream 165 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:31.480 to my home network. 166 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:34.199 Can you can you explain nd I? I don't. I don't. 167 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:35.120 I'm not familiar with that. 168 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:40.240 So NDI stands for Network Defined Interface. So NDI is 169 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.879 made by a company called new Tech, which I think 170 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:46.600 is owned by viz Art Now, which is a broadcast company. 171 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:53.800 It's a high bandwidth streaming platform like it's, it's it's 172 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:56.519 it's a streaming protocol, so much like s R, T 173 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:00.720 R T, m P those things. The benefit is that 174 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:03.800 you can put it on hardware, you can put it 175 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:08.720 on software and pull this video in across your network. 176 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.839 So all I'm running is that application on my phone, 177 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:15.759 and I'm using OBS to pull that stream into OBS, 178 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:18.199 then using the virtual camera from OBS to push it 179 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.120 to zoom wow. So and I. NDI is a I'm 180 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:23.160 going to change back to their camera. 181 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:27.560 But NDI is a. 182 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:31.480 It was very limited in terms of use in the 183 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:37.600 broadcast industry because of its nature across networks. Right, you 184 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:39.759 have to have it almost have to have a dedicated 185 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:43.799 network just for NDI, just because of its bandwidth requirements 186 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:50.000 and it's kind of interoper interoperability with other voice or 187 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:53.639 video over IP systems, so it didn't get picked up 188 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:58.000 very well. And then during COVID when everybody kind of 189 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:02.279 had to go to something to stream churches, houses of houses, 190 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:04.960 of works of churches, schools, all the stuff, NDI kind 191 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:07.440 of picked up a bunch of steam. And it's been 192 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:10.600 developed a lot on the back end and now they 193 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:13.960 have some lower bandwidth capabilities and some other things like that. 194 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:17.360 But we use it quite a bit at work. I 195 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:19.559 use it quite a bit at work to do If 196 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.240 you watch any of our Notre Dame Rugby club streams, 197 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:26.960 we're using four NDI cameras remote outdoor rated. They're mounted 198 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:31.200 outdoor at Rugby all over campus network, so they're just 199 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:34.320 plugged into a campus switch poe to the cameras, we 200 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:36.919 pull them back, We pull them back in at the TriCaster, 201 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.559 which is a video switcher that is made by new Tech, 202 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:45.519 so NDI native and brings it in and you can 203 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:47.639 switch switch the cameras, you can add graphics, You can 204 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:47.919 do all this. 205 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:50.159 When you're talking about a high bandwidth though, I mean, 206 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:51.440 what do we talk in per camera? 207 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:52.080 We talk in. 208 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:57.080 Gigabit, right, So there are a couple of different flavors, right, 209 00:09:57.159 --> 00:10:03.399 so NDI is compressed. So it's compressed. Uh, it's compressed video, right, yeah, 210 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:08.039 So it uses full they call full full NDI. They 211 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:10.799 use what the codec called speed HQ. That's the codec 212 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:15.159 they use. It's about it depends on what flavor of 213 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.039 video you're using. Ten ADP seven to twenty p, etceter. 214 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:21.200 So for a ten ADP stream at full NDI, it's 215 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:22.679 about one hundred and twenty meg per camera. 216 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:27.200 Mm okay, so if you have if you have the network, right, 217 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:30.240 So the benefit of NDI is if you have a 218 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.799 network that supports it, you can do multicast, which means 219 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:35.440 one to many, right. 220 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:39.000 If you don't, you have to do unicast, which means 221 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:42.919 one to one. Meaning if Justin pulls my camera down 222 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:45.639 and Andy pulls my camera down, it's sending two full 223 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:47.080 bandwidth streams. 224 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:49.480 To ooh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, meaning. 225 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:52.000 That would be two hundred and forty meg or x whatever. 226 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.360 Well, that's why you bring in that switcher, the and stuff. 227 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:57.279 Right, So there's a benefit to doing it either way. 228 00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:01.440 Now they've identified that as a kind of a bottleneck 229 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:05.279 and they created nd I ah x n da h 230 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:08.440 X two and da h X three and it's using 231 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:11.960 HG six four encoding h g VC encoding. So now 232 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:13.799 you're getting down to where you can put the cameras 233 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:18.039 down to four five six meg per camera at the 234 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:18.759 same quality. 235 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:20.840 Did you have to did you have to buy the 236 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:23.320 software for your smartphone to be able to run it 237 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:23.720 on there? 238 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:24.120 It's free? 239 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:27.080 So is that like the suite of products from NDI 240 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:29.000 when it comes to the software to do it? I 241 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:30.759 do believe that is the case. Isn't it? 242 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:34.000 Like you could everything that I've done to make this camera, 243 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:35.879 I'll go back to it, right, this camera, this camera, 244 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:38.840 everything I've done to make this camera, get it on Zoom. 245 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:39.440 It's free. 246 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:39.960 Wow. 247 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:43.519 The application, the nd I tool software from my computer, 248 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:46.399 the OBS is free. 249 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:48.240 Right, all of those things are free. 250 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:51.120 You can just download. They're all open source. Well and 251 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:52.480 is not open source. 252 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:55.759 But yeah, okay, but then how does NDI make money 253 00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:58.600 if they're if they're if they're like, yeah, yeah, I don't. 254 00:11:58.840 --> 00:11:59.639 You have to you have to. 255 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:03.679 There are licensed products for NDI, right, there are there 256 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:06.240 are things that new text cells that can't be licensed. 257 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:12.759 And if a vendor Panasonic, Sony, Cannon, Bird, Dog, PTS, Optics, 258 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:16.240 whoever wants to put NDI on their camera. They pay 259 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:19.600 nd I a fee. Right, it's just like H six 260 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:20.159 four right. 261 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:22.799 Every H six four device, it's just a codec. 262 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:25.480 Yeah, yeah, they pay six four. 263 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:27.440 That is a codec that you pay for. 264 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:28.799 Yeah, okay, that makes sense. 265 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.759 It's pretty amazing because even just looking at it now, 266 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:34.120 like Sean, how you have set up Like I can 267 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:37.360 imagine we talked about houses of worship and you know, 268 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:39.279 it used to be okay, they would just have one 269 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:42.159 camera on it, and then they started getting they started 270 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:46.000 getting like pretty experimental during the COVID and saying, well 271 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:48.480 we want you know, we still have you know, our 272 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:51.320 our our choral group here. So they wanted to be 273 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:53.320 able to switch to a choral group. So suddenly they 274 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:55.600 wanted to have two cameras. And then they started to 275 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:59.919 find out about tricasters and about obs or even wire 276 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:02.240 cast if they you know, want to use the telestream 277 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:05.200 product and pay for it. And then now I'm looking 278 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:07.600 at this, going this you can have a camera behind 279 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:11.279 you a minister or a preacher or priest and show 280 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:14.759 the congregation now, and I mean it's just there's so much, 281 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:18.120 so many applications that this is allowing you to do. 282 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:19.159 Yeah. 283 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:21.120 I mean there's there's some benefits, there's some there's some 284 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:24.600 positives and some negatives. Right this camera that I'm using 285 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:27.279 behind me is just on my WiFi. Wi Fi is 286 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:29.799 not ideal for this scenario. It just happens to be 287 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:31.080 what happens to work. 288 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:33.720 A little last Yeah, if I had. 289 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:36.799 One of my actual NDI cameras from work, I would 290 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:39.759 obviously hardwire to my switch, put it on my network 291 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:42.879 that way, and the latency would be sub one sub 292 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:45.879 one second. It'd be very, very very low latency. 293 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:48.679 It is pretty neat. I like it. I like the 294 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.080 idea too. This gives you that the idea why you 295 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.960 never ever want to get rid of your smartphones. You know, 296 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:57.159 you go to a place and they say, hey, you know, 297 00:13:57.200 --> 00:14:00.320 we'll trade it in and they'll give you what fifteen 298 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:01.320 twenty bucks on that. 299 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:05.679 Justin What do you think, Well, it's funny that you 300 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:06.039 mentioned that. 301 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:07.200 You are correct. 302 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:09.840 I mean that is that is the keep your old 303 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:11.320 cell phones because you never know what you want to 304 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:14.720 do with them. However, there's something interesting that just happened 305 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:16.080 that I want to talk about here in a second, 306 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:18.120 about what these use cell phones. But go ahead and 307 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:19.840 finish your thought. It just it just made me think 308 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:20.240 of something. 309 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:23.000 It just because then you have the opportunity and I think, Sean, 310 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:26.080 you're using an iPhone seven. People have thought, Okay, well, 311 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:28.279 you know it's not on an iPhone twelve. I'm not 312 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:29.879 going to be able to use it. We can't use 313 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:32.799 it for phone calls. You could still use those smartphones 314 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:34.039 connected to Wi Fi. 315 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:38.080 Yeah, and make turm into cameras or whatever. 316 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:40.600 Yeah. So again, you know, this could be something that 317 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:41.799 would be good, you. 318 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:44.320 Know, speaking of the phones. I just I was reading 319 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:47.840 about this earlier today. You know, the new Pixel nine 320 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:53.279 series came. Yeah, and I actually I will tell you 321 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:55.759 right now, I am going to be the proud new 322 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:59.039 owner of the new Pixel nine pro fold. 323 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:01.720 Oh you're you're gonna go fold wow. 324 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:02.200 Yep. 325 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:04.519 So that's coming on. That's coming on its way here soon. 326 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.120 But the point of this little story I was gonna 327 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:11.000 mention is I've been hearing about how best Buy will 328 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:15.559 give you one thousand dollars for like an old like 329 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:19.840 iPhone twelve or even an iPhone fourteen. They will give 330 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:23.720 you nine hundred and ninety nine dollars towards a trade 331 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:28.279 in or for trade in towards a Pixel nine. Now again, 332 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:30.759 this is not best Buy that's foot in this bill. 333 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:31.679 This is Google. 334 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:35.440 They're like, hey, doesn't matter. Pay everybody one thousand dollars 335 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:37.120 to trade in their phone if they get a pixel. 336 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:42.360 People have been exploiting this. They're going to these like 337 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:45.240 cell phone stores that are selling old you know, use 338 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:49.240 cell phones. They're buying old like iPhone twelves for like 339 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:53.000 two hundred bucks, turning around selling them the best buy 340 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:57.200 it for one thousand and gaining eight hundred dollars towards 341 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:00.519 a new Pixel nine. I mean that's pretty smart if 342 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:00.960 you asked me. 343 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:05.440 Yeah, And the Pixel nine has been getting some rever reviews. 344 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:08.240 You know, some people I know in the press world 345 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:11.639 have been able to get their hands on one. Press 346 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:14.000 has had a lot of harder time than some of 347 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:17.919 those that are influencers that than yeah, than those in 348 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:18.639 the actual media. 349 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:20.480 But I guess I'm not that good of an influencer. 350 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:24.279 I had to pay for mine. Thanks Andy, What made. 351 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:28.120 You decide though, that it was finally time to move up? 352 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:30.919 Because you didn't do the Pixel eight? Did you? No? 353 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:33.279 I usually no, no, no, no, no no, no, I do 354 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:35.720 I do have a Pixel eight pro. My phone is 355 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:39.039 I usually skip a generation. That's what I's what I thought. 356 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:42.159 So I've I've usually been on the odds, but now 357 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:43.759 I went last year, I was like, oh, I'm gonna 358 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:45.919 get it. You know, the Pixel eight Pro, but I 359 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:48.039 saw the Pixel nine. I saw the Pixel nine pro 360 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:52.039 fold and I'm like, one of the deciding factors me honestly, 361 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:54.840 was my eyesight. My eyesight is getting a little wit 362 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:56.840 worse as I get a little bit older, and I 363 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:59.559 have to have readers everywhere, and I thought, you know this, 364 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:02.279 and they they talked about how having that foldable screen, 365 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:04.680 the open screen will allow you to be able to 366 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:07.720 like zoom in on text a lot easier. And I thought, 367 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:09.640 you know, that looks pretty cool. And I've always been 368 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:13.200 a little bit risk adverse to or towards foldable phones 369 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:15.960 because of that center gap. But they said that they've 370 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:18.359 actually got a new technology now where it kind of 371 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:24.319 reduces that prominance of that center foldable gap. So I 372 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:27.000 don't know, I'm gonna give it a shot. I'm going 373 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:29.160 to trade in my pixel or I Pixel eight Pro. 374 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:33.119 And then I told the wife, I said, look, I'm 375 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:35.880 just gonna you know, I'll come up with the money 376 00:17:35.960 --> 00:17:40.519 somehow little bitcoin, but yeah, I should be getting my 377 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:45.319 Pixel nine pro fold. I think it's like September fourteenth 378 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.559 through the eighteenth, somewhere in that range. So I'm actually 379 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:51.319 really interested to see that. But on top of that, 380 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:54.079 because I bought it through the Google Store, I get 381 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:58.160 a three hundred and fifty dollars Google credit towards buying things, 382 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:02.480 And I was already about to spend three hundred dollars 383 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:06.039 to buy the new Google Streamer, the new Google Streaming 384 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:09.319 four K devices, like they're replacing the Google TV, the 385 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:12.440 Google Chrome casts and stuff. Now it's like a little 386 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:14.640 bit of a set top box. It's it's still pretty small, 387 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:18.640 but it's more of a set top box. Faster process 388 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.039 or more memory, more storage, and they're each like one 389 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:24.319 hundred dollars before tax. So I was like, I was 390 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:27.480 going to buy three of those already. So now that 391 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:29.480 I get the three hundred and fifty dollars store credit 392 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:33.319 by buying this, that knocks off, in essence, three hundred 393 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:36.440 and fifty bucks off my phone bill. So it ended 394 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:39.200 up coming out of pocket. 395 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:41.319 I want to say about one thousand dollars. 396 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:43.240 Do you think that you know when we first saw 397 00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:46.279 the flips and the folds come out from Samsung. Y 398 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:48.279 you know, it was kind of like, eh, you know, 399 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:50.480 people were kind of on the fence. We looked at 400 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:53.240 the fold from Samsung and we were like it was okay, 401 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:56.039