1 00:00:14,039 --> 00:00:17,879 Speaker 1: What is going on Clipper fans. It is Clips and 2 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,640 Dip the podcast. I am William Updyke, joined by Adam Oslin. 3 00:00:22,719 --> 00:00:25,839 No Charles Mockler today, but we're gonna try to try 4 00:00:25,879 --> 00:00:27,879 to soldier on. How you doing today, Adam. 5 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm good, Clippers made three straight. You came on postgame 6 00:00:32,079 --> 00:00:34,759 last night a little Clips and Double Dip on Clippers 7 00:00:34,759 --> 00:00:37,399 stock as we discussed their twenty nine point victory over 8 00:00:37,439 --> 00:00:40,640 the Brooklyn Nets. So two days off now then a 9 00:00:40,679 --> 00:00:43,240 game against the Lakers finally this season. I'm excited. 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, As you alluded to, we did talk a 11 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:48,079 little bit about that three game win streak, so we're 12 00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:50,520 not gonna we're not gonna go into that too much 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,560 on today's episode. Make sure to check out Adam's episode 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,000 if you want to see more on the if you've 15 00:00:56,039 --> 00:00:58,520 somehow missed this three game win streak, which you know 16 00:00:58,759 --> 00:01:01,479 is possible, but you got to You gotta come out 17 00:01:01,479 --> 00:01:05,439 from under the rocks sometimes. But a takeaway from that 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,480 is definitely how good Kawhi Leonard has looked. So we're 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,239 gonna lead things off, so we're talking about that, then 20 00:01:10,239 --> 00:01:13,359 we're gonna get into Clippers taken on the Lakers after 21 00:01:13,439 --> 00:01:16,040 the long break that Adam mentioned today is pretty long 22 00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:18,760 time for the Clippers. And then we're going to wrap 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,560 up with some other stuff, talk about some potential front 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,239 court help that has been sort of loosely linked to 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,000 the Clippers. We'll also talk about Charles Barkley quote, who 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,400 thinks Clippers should have not one, but two All Stars. 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:38,079 Let's lead in talking a little bit about Kawhi. We 28 00:01:38,159 --> 00:01:40,359 didn't super dig into him when we talked about this 29 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:44,920 three game win streak last night. Where are you at 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,400 with Kawhi? What have you seen so far? And how 31 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:51,760 do you where would you assess that he's at if 32 00:01:51,799 --> 00:01:53,879 you were to give it a percentage right now of 33 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:55,560 like what we know Kawhi to be. 34 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: Well after the game against Brooklyn. We're granted they won 35 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,799 by fifty nine, so a lot of these points weren't 36 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,359 necessarily consequential, But that's not even what I'm looking for 37 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:09,240 with Kawhi, or what he's looking for apparently is not 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,520 necessarily about his scoring. It's about his sad Yeah, and 39 00:02:14,439 --> 00:02:17,080 I thought he was moving so well out there in 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:22,280 that game, where I basically said postgame, I feel like 41 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,159 he can be the same version of himself that he 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,840 was last season before the swelling, and that is huge. 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,120 That's exactly what we've talked about as the hypothetical for 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,680 if the Clippers get that version of Kawhi Leonard, they 45 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:37,439 can be a contender again in the Western Conference if 46 00:02:37,479 --> 00:02:40,039 he's healthy in a seven game series against anyone, as 47 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,400 long as that version of him is still in there, 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,400 and I think it is with the jumpers, the mid 49 00:02:45,479 --> 00:02:47,560 range we saw against Brooklyn. The only thing we haven't 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,280 gotten from him so far is a dunk. But I've 51 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:53,479 never been that worried about his leaping ability because he's 52 00:02:53,479 --> 00:02:56,159 a left legged leaper and all the injuries have happened 53 00:02:56,159 --> 00:02:57,039 to his right leg. 54 00:02:57,879 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: So that's a very good point. 55 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: I think he's good, Like I'm super encouraged right now, 56 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,080 and he will have had three days off, uh since 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,120 that game and then Sunday against the Lakers, and he 58 00:03:10,319 --> 00:03:14,000 was about twenty five minutes last game. His minutes increased. 59 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,639 That was good to see. I don't know if that 60 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,240 pretends anything for the Lakers game going up even more 61 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,360 might be about the same twenty five minutes. But I 62 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,919 think I think he's ahead of schedule from where I 63 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,719 thought he could be four games in. 64 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: For me, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would agree with you 65 00:03:31,439 --> 00:03:34,840 having that. Having that minute restriction up to twenty five minutes, 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,520 I think is really significant. You know, the biggest thing 67 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:41,680 I felt like the lingering complaint from you know, fans 68 00:03:41,759 --> 00:03:45,960 and the wider, the wider sort of sphere was Kawhi 69 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,599 not into close games, which obviously that's what you want 70 00:03:49,599 --> 00:03:54,719 to see. So that that minute increase is so significant. 71 00:03:55,759 --> 00:03:59,120 What what have you thought about some of the small 72 00:03:59,159 --> 00:04:01,520 ball lineups with because that's a style of basketball we 73 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:04,840 haven't gotten to see as much. Yeah. 74 00:04:04,919 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: I'm always a fan of small ball when Kawhi is 75 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,039 healthy because he's such a good defender on the back line, 76 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,680 and when they have Batum and him out there. That 77 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,360 to me, it depends on the matchup, but that can 78 00:04:17,439 --> 00:04:20,439 be a recipe for success in limited minutes. I don't 79 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,759 want to see it for an entire quarter or anything 80 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,920 like that, but I think three four or five minutes 81 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,759 here and there, you can create a little bit of 82 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,800 a death lineup out there where you have a ton 83 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,360 of shooting and then versatility on the defensive end. I 84 00:04:34,399 --> 00:04:37,079 know it gets a bad rap sometimes, but I think 85 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:43,319 for the most part, people have been bullish on the 86 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,519 backup small ball lineups. With the small ball lineups with 87 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,519 Kawhi Leonard and some backups like Niko Batom, that it 88 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,839 gives them enough of an ability to be able to 89 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,480 have enough size out there, have enough defense out there, 90 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:02,920 and obviously it uses up the offense to an extent 91 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,680 as we wait to see if will Updyke can get 92 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,959 back in here. He started the stream and so it's 93 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,800 a little bit awkward. Okay, he's coming back of what 94 00:05:12,959 --> 00:05:19,160 second here? But yeah, I I love abast the Zoo bosses. 95 00:05:19,199 --> 00:05:23,399 Everybody knows here. I am pro big Zoo. I'm also 96 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,720 aware that he's not going to play forty eight minutes 97 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,000 per game. And I think the small ball lineups, considering 98 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,959 what the Clippers have to work with right now with 99 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:39,079 their backup bigs, are more serviceable, are better options than 100 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,040 with how Mobamba's look this season and going there, or 101 00:05:43,079 --> 00:05:45,920 with how Kai Jones has looked this season. I'd rather 102 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,120 just go small ball. Now. You can say it can 103 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,879 be problematic because Kawhi Leonard is guarding up more. Does 104 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,360 that put more of a toll on his right knee. 105 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:58,560 I don't think there's anything conclusive on that because he's 106 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,839 gotten hurt playing small forward. All these people that are saying, oh, no, 107 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,439 playing power forward contributes to his injuries, like, well, wait, 108 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,439 he towards acl playing small forward. He did his meniscus 109 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:14,279 playing small forward. I think he just obviously guys, he's 110 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:18,000 injury prone and his right knee is an issue, and 111 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:22,279 it's really not about the position. It's more about how 112 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:25,680 many miles he's running per game and just his style 113 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:30,920 of defense. Kawhi Leonard is somebody that I think he 114 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,959 only knows one way to play on that end, and 115 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,000 that's what makes him so great. I also think it 116 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,160 works against his body unfortunately, but I don't know if 117 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,560 there's a way for him to turn it off. I 118 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,959 think he has certain defensive instincts out there that take 119 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,319 over to where for better or for worse. And while 120 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,040 it's going to help you on the court with him 121 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,800 flying around like that, eventually could it lead to an injury. 122 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,800 I think that's partial reason the overall wear and tear 123 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,480 that he puts on his body because of how good 124 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,399 of a defender he is. That is one of the 125 00:07:08,439 --> 00:07:11,160 reasons that Kawhi Leonard has not been able to stay healthy. 126 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,319 Is will Updike his back on now. 127 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,639 Speaker 1: So sorry about that. Was not expecting that, was not 128 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,120 expecting the delivery, thought it would be much later after 129 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,639 we could wrap this up. But you know what, much 130 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,920 like Kawhi Leonard ahead a schedule. So what more can 131 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:28,800 you ask for? What more can you really ask for? 132 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,879 Did you talk about your favor about your favorite hypothetical 133 00:07:32,879 --> 00:07:37,279 lineup or let's start here. Uh, where do you see 134 00:07:37,839 --> 00:07:40,839 once the minutes restriction is lifted? What do you see 135 00:07:40,839 --> 00:07:42,839 as the most likely closing lineup? 136 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: Ooh, well, I hope a viatsa Zubots is still in there. 137 00:07:48,199 --> 00:07:51,240 I'm sure they will close small sometimes that they're down 138 00:07:51,279 --> 00:07:53,959 in a ball game and they're trying to, you know, 139 00:07:54,279 --> 00:07:56,600 load up on the offensive side to catch up, they 140 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:57,399 might go small. 141 00:07:57,399 --> 00:07:59,199 Speaker 1: Why not make too a part of that though? 142 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I because they're not gonna get it to him anyways. 143 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,120 She's gonna be a complete decoy. I agree with you. You're right. 144 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:10,480 They should just get him involved on the offensive end more, 145 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,399 even when they have their best offensive players out there. 146 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:16,399 Vita Zubas should be part of that party. But let's 147 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:19,160 say it's a tight ball game. Because last season Viats 148 00:08:19,279 --> 00:08:22,000 Zubas did close out much more than he had in 149 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,959 the past. So I'm gonna say Viats Zubas at the five. 150 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,120 I'll go in the opposite direction, I'll say Kawhi Leonard, 151 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:36,159 and this is my ideal closing lineup, So Zue Kawhi, 152 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,600 James Harden, Norman Pale. So we're really talking about the 153 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,879 replacement for Paul George and who that should be. Hm. 154 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,960 I think it it could be matchup dependent, just like 155 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,360 with these two guys when it comes to starting right now, 156 00:08:54,759 --> 00:08:57,279 but I think it's Chris Dunn d DJ and I 157 00:08:57,279 --> 00:08:59,639 think most of the time I'd go with Derek Jones Junior, 158 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,840 So I'd just be the starting lineup for me, honestly. 159 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,799 But Nico Batum is the other I. 160 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: Was gonna I was gonna say the only I agree 161 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,399 with you, it's it's basically there's kind of one spot 162 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,000 that's interchangeable unless you end up going small small without 163 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,639 Zoo and a Nico to me is maybe the most 164 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:22,080 interesting one. I'm not saying that it should happen, but 165 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:25,799 I can definitely see within the flow of a game, 166 00:09:26,279 --> 00:09:29,879 how how it could happen. Yeah, Like I wouldn't close 167 00:09:29,919 --> 00:09:31,039 the door on that completely. 168 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,639 Speaker 2: I think there's honestly gonna be times or people are 169 00:09:34,639 --> 00:09:39,639 gonna have a revelation come the playoffs that, oh, we 170 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,200 could just start Niko Batoum at the four against certain teams, 171 00:09:44,279 --> 00:09:48,000 Like there's your answer at power forward. Nico hasn't played 172 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:50,120 heavy minutes during the regular season, and now we can 173 00:09:50,159 --> 00:09:52,440 start him in a playoff series at the four, and 174 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,240 that's how you get Kawhi to the three. I think 175 00:09:54,279 --> 00:09:55,120 that's a real option. 176 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: And why would you like that over Derek Jones Junior 177 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,360 just because of the more assured shooting and better passing. 178 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: Or yeah, just I mean he's a better connector overall, 179 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,159 veteran savvy and he can I think he can guard 180 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,639 up a little bit better than Derek Jones Junior. Not 181 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,919 that he's back, but I mean we've seen Batoom give 182 00:10:18,039 --> 00:10:22,639 Jokic some issues here and there, like he can. His 183 00:10:22,759 --> 00:10:25,759 defense is so good. He's so tall, he's so long 184 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,320 because he's six ' nine. I mean, Derek Jones Junior 185 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,440 has that lift, so it makes it seem like he's 186 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,919 taller than six to five, but he's six five. I 187 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,559 think Nico just gives you a bigger body. I think 188 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,200 that's a real I think that's a real option come 189 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,240 to playoffs. 190 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like that. I'm not mad at that 191 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,159 at all. All right, do you have any closing thoughts 192 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,320 on Kawhi before we move on to this to what 193 00:10:48,519 --> 00:10:53,480 could be very impactful for the standings matchup against the Lakers. 194 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: No, I'm good with it. I made my piece, all right. 195 00:10:57,799 --> 00:10:59,279 Speaker 1: For those of you listening, there will be a brief 196 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,039 audio break. For those of you watching over at YouTube 197 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,200 dot com slash at Clippers podcast, there is no break, 198 00:11:05,399 --> 00:11:07,600 but anyways, we'll count out for our audio listeners. Ads 199 00:11:07,639 --> 00:11:09,279 coming up in three two one. 200 00:11:10,279 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back in It's Clips and Dip episode forty one, 201 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,279 season three. I'm out of Mosland. No chef Mockler, but 202 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,639 we got big will Updyke. We also did some double 203 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,120 dip last night on Clippers Talk after the victory over 204 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,759 the Brooklyn Nets. They made it three straight wins where 205 00:11:25,759 --> 00:11:28,960 they also held each team under one hundred points. But 206 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,600 now they have two days off. In their first game 207 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:34,159 for the Battle of Los Angeles this season against the 208 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,799 Los Angeles Lakers, and the first time since I think 209 00:11:37,879 --> 00:11:41,840 nineteen ninety nine that they're not playing each other in 210 00:11:41,879 --> 00:11:45,559 a shared building. It's not a Whollway Series anymore. The 211 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:47,799 Lakers are a true road team. The Clippers are a 212 00:11:47,799 --> 00:11:50,360 true home team at into a dome for this one, 213 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:52,799 which I think adds another wrinkle to it. And it's 214 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:56,360 kind of exciting. First time in twenty five years. 215 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: It's kind of appalling that it's taken this long end 216 00:11:59,200 --> 00:11:59,759 of the season. 217 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:02,639 Speaker 2: I don't get it. That's the weirdest thing to me. 218 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:06,919 I can't remember the last time. This may be the 219 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,240 longest it's ever taken. 220 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: They're in the Sea, it's gotta be up there. 221 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is exciting, and as you alluded to 222 00:12:16,279 --> 00:12:21,080 there with the t's, this has major playoff implications, I think, 223 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,279 because first of all, the Clippers just need a victory 224 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:27,440 against the Western Conference team because their record against the 225 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,679 West is not very good, and that's what tie breakers 226 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,320 come down to, if you tie the head to head matchup, 227 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,279 like they did against Denver this season. Also, it's the Lakers. 228 00:12:38,399 --> 00:12:41,080 It's the first time you're seeing them. They have a 229 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,919 game against Brooklyn tonight. Of course they get the Clippers 230 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,759 sloppy seconds after the Clippers beat them by fifty nine. 231 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,919 Of course, I think Brooklyn's going to play more of 232 00:12:48,919 --> 00:12:51,200 their guys liked Angelo Russell tonight, who might have a 233 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,039 revenge game in them, hopefully against the Lakers. But it 234 00:12:54,159 --> 00:12:56,759 just feels like man because of the build up and 235 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,120 waiting for this. This is a huge game on Sunday, 236 00:12:59,159 --> 00:13:00,480 Will Yeah. 237 00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't agree more. These teams are neck 238 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:06,440 and neck in the standings, Clippers with two more wins, 239 00:13:07,039 --> 00:13:09,799 but it's only you know, it's only one game separating 240 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,840 these these two and I mean Lakers are likely to 241 00:13:12,919 --> 00:13:15,720 close the gap with that game against the Nets coming up. 242 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:22,639 It's interesting looking at these two teams because it kind 243 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:24,039 of a yang and yang going on. I mean, the 244 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,879 the the Lakers are an above average offense pretty like 245 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:33,080 a below average defense, and Clippers are on the opposite 246 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,559 side of the spectrum. It's so interesting to me this. 247 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,759 You know, the pieces have moved in and out, but 248 00:13:38,799 --> 00:13:40,960 the core of this Lakers thing, like when they won 249 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,039 that championship, the identity has gone, you know, it just 250 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,759 in the complete opposite directions since then, to obviously very 251 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:53,399 mixed results. But I'm curious, Adam, what you think about 252 00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:56,240 the battle for two point range in this one and 253 00:13:56,519 --> 00:13:58,919 if the Clippers can get it going from hot the 254 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,039 Lakers don't take a lot of threes. They are twenty 255 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:07,320 seventh in the league in attempts and they are twenty 256 00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:11,440 twentieth in the league in percentage. So if the Clippers 257 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,440 get off to a tear, we see it a kind 258 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,639 of hot start quarter. I mean, is that enough to 259 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:17,840 kind of put this one away? 260 00:14:19,039 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: Well, it feels like as of late, the Clippers haven't 261 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:26,279 been as good from three as well. They're four Oh, 262 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,039 I agree, yeah, so they're fourteenth on the season from 263 00:14:30,039 --> 00:14:36,039 three at thirty six and a half percent. I think 264 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,000 this Lakers team is so unpredictable because I would say 265 00:14:41,039 --> 00:14:43,759 the Clippers have overachieved so far this season only having 266 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,120 four games from Kawhi, and the Lakers have slightly underachieved 267 00:14:48,159 --> 00:14:50,799 because they have had Anthony Davis and Lebron James a 268 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:56,360 lot and just more consistency but with healthy players, but 269 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,440 inconsistency on the court because they started off the season 270 00:14:59,519 --> 00:15:04,480 like really hot offensively, really bad defensively. Then their defense 271 00:15:04,519 --> 00:15:07,759 got better, but their offense got worse. Now it's back 272 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:11,399 to their offense is better. Last ten games. They're eighth offensively, 273 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,000 but they're twenty eighth defensively. They're very up and down 274 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,519 and unpredictable with what you're gonna get night tonight. And 275 00:15:19,559 --> 00:15:23,159 they've also had issues with just breaking like you get 276 00:15:23,679 --> 00:15:25,639 you get on top of the Lakers and they will 277 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,519 just almost quit. That's what it's felt like at times 278 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:31,360 with this team. I think Lakers fans would agree with that. 279 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:34,120 But they just had a game where they battled back 280 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,840 against the Miami Heat down twelve and a half. So 281 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:40,120 have they rided the ship. I like the move for 282 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,919 bringing Dorian Finney Smith. I think that's solid for them, 283 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,360 but they still have the overall problem when you talk 284 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:49,279 about the identity of this team with the Lakers and 285 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,840 what's gone wrong. To me, it's too many one dimensional 286 00:15:52,919 --> 00:15:54,679 players that are good on one end of the court 287 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,200 but bat on the other. Like they haven't figured out. Oh, 288 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,320 the Boston Celtics are so good because they all play 289 00:16:00,399 --> 00:16:02,919 defense and they all shoot, they don't have a ton 290 00:16:02,919 --> 00:16:03,480 of laws. 291 00:16:03,879 --> 00:16:04,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. 292 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're getting from this Lakers team 293 00:16:07,639 --> 00:16:10,360 and on a night to night basis. So yeah, the 294 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:14,120 Clippers at least, you know, for the most part this season, 295 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,120 they're gonna be great on one end on the defensive end. 296 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,559 Offensively maybe not, but defensively that seems to show up 297 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,600 every night. And as for the Lakers, I don't know 298 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:26,200 what they're doing on either end of the floor. 299 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very unpredictable team sort of Yeah, it's difficult there. 300 00:16:31,559 --> 00:16:34,200 How do you think the size sort of mismatched bodes 301 00:16:34,279 --> 00:16:36,759 for the Lakers because they get some They got some 302 00:16:36,799 --> 00:16:37,919 bigger boys over there. 303 00:16:38,759 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: This is true, Anthony Davis. I feel like the Clippers 304 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,559 have done a pretty decent job against him. There was 305 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,039 a game last season where I felt like Zoo outplayed 306 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,480 him straight up. The Lakers beat him by I think 307 00:16:49,519 --> 00:16:51,279 one point, but Zoo was really good and I had 308 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:54,120 like a twenty twenty type of game against him. If 309 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,360 you know, they won what the first eleven games of 310 00:16:57,399 --> 00:17:00,799 the tylu Era against the Lakers until last season when 311 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,240 the Lakers won the season series three games to one. 312 00:17:03,919 --> 00:17:06,720 So there was so much domination going on by the 313 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:09,319 Clippers for a while, it was like we almost didn't 314 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,559 have to worry about the Lakers and what they could 315 00:17:11,559 --> 00:17:14,559 do against the Clippers. They've had I think Lebron has 316 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:18,279 shot either his lowest field goal percentage against the Clippers 317 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:20,960 over the last five years, or at least like one 318 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,599 of his lowest field goal percentages against any team, and 319 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,599 obviously they play each other a lot, so Tyleru has 320 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,839 been good game planning against them. But then last season 321 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:33,039 it felt like the Lakers were just trying to build 322 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:37,440 a team that could beat the Clippers and the hell 323 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,000 with the rest of the league. Were at least gonna 324 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,799 find ways to beat the Clippers again, and they did. 325 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:48,720 But yeah, I wonder because Jackson Hayes' is back and 326 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:52,680 has been playing, and then JJ Reddick said the other 327 00:17:52,759 --> 00:17:56,920 day that they are going to play some big, big 328 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,640 lineups with him next to Anthony Davis. So you know, 329 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,960 Christian Woulds still not back yet, But do they try 330 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,400 that out tonight, see how it goes, and then run 331 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,160 it against the Clippers some where they have two bigs 332 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,880 in the ballgame. And we talked about the Clippers and 333 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,200 their tendency to play small. Is that gonna lead to 334 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,640 some interesting lineups out there? 335 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,799 Speaker 1: Yeah? I just don't know that that's the biggest advantage 336 00:18:23,839 --> 00:18:26,519 against this Clippers team in some ways, And yes, they 337 00:18:26,519 --> 00:18:31,079 have ways to mitigate size, but also if you just 338 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,559 go a little bit guard heavy, ken are those is 339 00:18:34,599 --> 00:18:38,480 it that advantageous to have another huge lumbering guy out there, 340 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,799 and offensively, like with a team that doesn't really shoot 341 00:18:41,799 --> 00:18:45,400 a lot of threes, what's the drawback? You know, like 342 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,839 how much is that going to hurt your hurt you 343 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:53,400 on the other end of the floor as well. One 344 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,039 thing I'm kind of curious your thoughts on this. We've 345 00:18:56,039 --> 00:18:58,119 heard James Harden sort of talk about, you know, part 346 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,960 of the reason he hasn't taken a lot of time 347 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,000 off is he feels out of rhythm. You know, he 348 00:19:04,279 --> 00:19:07,000 wants to stay in this rhythm. And we have seen 349 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,519 this team come out of breaks looking a little worse 350 00:19:10,599 --> 00:19:13,319 than they went into them. With What are you expecting 351 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,559 from James Harden in this game? And is there is 352 00:19:16,599 --> 00:19:19,599 there a chance that we're not gonna We're not gonna 353 00:19:19,599 --> 00:19:21,240 see him clicking the way that we have at points 354 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:21,960 during this season. 355 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,839 Speaker 2: And that's a good point because when he had those 356 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,279 eight days off and we were like, yeah, he's gonna 357 00:19:27,279 --> 00:19:29,920 be rejuvenated. This is awesome, And then he came back 358 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,839 against Denver and had nine turnovers and it looked like 359 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:39,119 it was rust. That's something I do worry about. But 360 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,240 I think just having Kawhi as we expected him to 361 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,200 be playing in that Lakers game will help him out. 362 00:19:46,319 --> 00:19:49,480 It looked like it has overall. When Kawhi's out there 363 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:51,759 next to him, he's turning the ball over less. Kawhi 364 00:19:51,839 --> 00:19:54,039 was bringing the ball up a ton against Brooklyn to 365 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,519 start off that game in the fifty nine point victory. 366 00:19:57,319 --> 00:20:01,039 That alone can help alleviate the pressure of James having 367 00:20:01,079 --> 00:20:05,880 to always, you know, initiate the offense, start fast, score, 368 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,880 but also distribute and get everybody else involved. It's just 369 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,759 too much at thirty five. So I hope that means 370 00:20:13,079 --> 00:20:15,960 he'll be in a decent rhythm because it's not like 371 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,680 he can, you know, he has to start fast. He 372 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,720 can ease his way into games a little bit more 373 00:20:21,839 --> 00:20:24,000 if Kauwhi is out there. I don't know what you think. 374 00:20:24,039 --> 00:20:31,759 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's something I'm concerned about. But with Kawhi, 375 00:20:31,799 --> 00:20:34,319 I mean, it's just interesting that we've had this multi 376 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,640 guard lineup and we're still talking about how there's there's 377 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,640 too much pressure on Harden to have the sort of 378 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,400 create and we talked about some of the issues with 379 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,599 the with the Lakers and the talent that they went 380 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,559 off of, and it's one of those things with our 381 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,880 guards that I feel like can also be a little 382 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,359 bit one dimensional, but like you said, Kawhi really is 383 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,720 the best sort of pressure valve for that issue. He's 384 00:20:55,759 --> 00:20:58,720 the guy that you you know, want the ball in 385 00:20:58,759 --> 00:21:01,440 his hands the most, so it makes the most sense 386 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:06,680 for him obviously to alleviate that. And I'm curious to 387 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,519 see like sort of what I mean, what the intensity 388 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,200 level of this is going to be like for for 389 00:21:13,319 --> 00:21:15,279 both of these guys. I mean, the battle the battle 390 00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:17,720 for la in the first time in like in the 391 00:21:17,759 --> 00:21:20,079 new home. I mean, it's it's kind of interesting and 392 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,839 we you know, this Clippers team a rocky bit of 393 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,599 start to their time into it Dome, what was it, 394 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,359 four straight losses, which which wasn't great, but this one, 395 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,200 I'm so curious to see the vibe and energy for 396 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,319 this one and how it elevates both guys. And I 397 00:21:38,319 --> 00:21:41,079 think that maybe the sort of it being a pressure 398 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,680 cooker is also a way to alleviate some of those 399 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,279 sort of some of the rust for hardened because I 400 00:21:47,279 --> 00:21:49,160 think it's a little easier to lock in when the 401 00:21:49,319 --> 00:21:50,559 when the lights are the brightest. 402 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: Do you think the Clippers are going to feel more 403 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,680 pressure because the home team first time taking on the 404 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,160 Lakers at Into It Dome is probably going to be 405 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,119 the loudest has been in all season long. 406 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: Everyone on the roster is going to say no, But 407 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,640 how could you not, like just like just as a 408 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,559 human being or like a worker or something. I don't know, like, 409 00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:13,119 how how could you not? I'm sure that that question 410 00:22:13,279 --> 00:22:16,880 is gonna come up at media availability, and I'm sure 411 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,960 everyone is going to say that it's just another game. 412 00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:21,240 But in the back of your mind, how could you not? 413 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,880 How could you not be thinking about that? 414 00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: Because like, I don't want to hear from Lakers fans 415 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:29,240 beach you the first time in your new home, like 416 00:22:29,319 --> 00:22:31,240 we own you at into It, don't. 417 00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: Own into it? They own into it now. 418 00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:38,279 Speaker 2: I really can't have that. So yeah, I I hope, 419 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:43,359 uh James Harden, you know, because he's had games where 420 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,759 he looks the variance in performance with him game to 421 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,160 game has been you know, pretty wide this season the 422 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:51,759 spectrum of. 423 00:22:51,799 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: How which is not like entirely new, you know, outside 424 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,160 of those MVP seasons. Like he is a high variance 425 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,599 guy and he has been a high variance guy in 426 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,240 the playoffs. And not to contradict myself when I said 427 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,319 he locks in with the lights of the brightest. I'm 428 00:23:05,319 --> 00:23:07,359 saying he locks in. I'm not always saying he right, 429 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,559 like he outperforms what he can do. But yeah, he's 430 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,079 a variance guy. 431 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: I feel like. So that means okay. So they lost 432 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,640 a game without him against the Lakers last season because 433 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,000 right after they made that trade, he was at that 434 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,960 Lakers game that was in overtime, but he wasn't playing yet. 435 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,920 He was in the locker room that Terrence Man picture 436 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:35,680 was taken. Everybody's like, oh, Terrence didn't want James Harden 437 00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:38,839 here because he's taken playing time away from him. So 438 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,559 with James Harden, they went one and two against the 439 00:23:43,599 --> 00:23:46,599 Lakers last season then because he wasn't available for the 440 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,920 first game and they played four. Like, I was trying 441 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,119 to think, what's his level of dominance against this or 442 00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:55,839 what's his level or head to head record against this 443 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,920 particular Lakers team, because he's been really good against you 444 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,319 and the Denver Nuggets. He's like sixteen and seven or 445 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,880 something like that in his career and it's just a 446 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,200 different element dimension to this Clippers team. Now against the Lakers, 447 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,079 they have James Harden. What's his track record? How well 448 00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:15,200 has he been playing. I believe overall he has struggled. 449 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,599 Last season, he did struggle against them. Their ball pressure 450 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,319 against James Harden was really good and that led to 451 00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:24,279 two of those losses. 452 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that makes sense, and that's why it's 453 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,240 going to be so much more important for us to 454 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:33,319 get whatever percentage of Kawhi we can get in those 455 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,680 twenty five minutes, because really, I mean, if you're putting 456 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,799 the pressure on Harden and you're forcing the ball out 457 00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:45,079 of his hands, it's a difficult offense already with him 458 00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:47,640 in it. So when you remove that factor, like things 459 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,480 are going to stall out really really bad. And even 460 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,359 in that win last night, we saw we saw some 461 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,680 what three minute long plus stretches with no scoring at 462 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,319 which is always brutal to watch. So yeah, Kawhi's readiness 463 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,680 is gonna is gonna be hand in hand sort of 464 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,200 with I think, I think James's performance in this. 465 00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:14,799 Speaker 2: Should we get to our player of the game, Oh 466 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,240 yes we should? 467 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: All right, this is the uh, this is the Kawhi Leonard. 468 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,279 Speaker 2: What is it? 469 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,319 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard, Norm Powell of Vitza Zubats James Harden. 470 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:25,839 Speaker 2: Uh. 471 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,039 Speaker 1: Sorry if I'm missing anyone, honorary player of the game. Basically, 472 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,279 it's named in honor of all these people because you 473 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,160 cannot choose them UH to be the player of the game. 474 00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:37,880 Why we have backed ourselves into this corner. I have 475 00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:41,920 no idea, but we continue to do it, Adam, since 476 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,119 I intro the segment, I guess you can go ahead 477 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,720 and go first. I'm probably gonna be mad. 478 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: We have like six guys we get to choose from every. 479 00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: Ye oh yeah, and whoever gets to go first is 480 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,039 really in the best spot to look smart. 481 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,079 Speaker 2: Puts even more pressure on this pick. I gotta get 482 00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:06,559 this one right, I got to, got to, got to 483 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:12,079 have it. I think I'm gonna go with Chris Dunn. 484 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:19,759 He got down a three pointer against UH against Yeah, 485 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,599 one of one, so he's turned things around. But I 486 00:26:24,759 --> 00:26:30,119 don't know if he'll be starting or DJ. For switchability purposes, 487 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,880 it's you probably want DJ against Lebron. They don't want 488 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,039 to have to have Kawhi on him the entire time, 489 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:42,319 and just his fifth game back, DJ is bigger. The 490 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,319 ball pressure from Chris Dunn is better, and I think 491 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,039 he could be better against Austin Reeves, So I don't 492 00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:51,200 know if he'll be starting or not, but I think 493 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,319 his defense is going to be key to the ball game. 494 00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:54,720 And I also just want to see him hit a 495 00:26:54,759 --> 00:26:56,720 couple of big threes, because sometimes when a guy is 496 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,559 in a funk like this, you get into a high 497 00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:03,240 intense the game, and if you perform well in that game, 498 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,680 you can go on a streak afterwards. You can turn 499 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,039 the tide with some of your numbers, you can turn 500 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:09,759 things around. 501 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,599 Speaker 1: Absolutely like all, I feel like anybody is one heater 502 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:16,799 away from really being able to pull out of whatever 503 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,519 funk it is. 504 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,279 Speaker 2: And if shooting one last game from me, if that 505 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,759 doesn't do it, buddy, if that doesn't do it, I 506 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:26,279 don't know what to tell you. I need to see 507 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:29,720 the carry over into this Lakers game. I'm going Chris Dunn. 508 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: I like it. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go out 509 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,119 of left field here, and I'm not saying they're gonna 510 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,319 be the best player in the game, but they are 511 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,240 my pick of the game, and I'm gonna go with 512 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:48,240 Terrence Man reason being one of the longest tenured Clippers. 513 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,359 I think if you're if you're looking at this from 514 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,400 a storyline perspective, he's got the most sort of the 515 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,079 most skin in the game, perhaps on this roster for 516 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,720 this matchup. I really like what we saw from him 517 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,960 last game against the Trailblazers. He just looked to me 518 00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:05,880 a little bit more decisive, a little bit more confident 519 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,079 as he has since returning, does still look a little 520 00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:11,599 tentative on the calf. I'm not gonna lie that was 521 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,960 concerning to watch at points in that in that Trailblazers game, 522 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,839 But he strikes me as a guy in this one, who, 523 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,599 you know, if things need a little bit of energy, 524 00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:23,079 if things hit a loll with that second unit, He's 525 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,519 the guy that I'm looking to to to hopefully be 526 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:28,519 able to help kind of claw help kind of claw 527 00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:31,039 out of that. And we know what a momentum guy 528 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,000 he can be. You know, sometimes when you know, when 529 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,480 there's been sort of a large swath without scoring a 530 00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:40,160 Terrence three seems to ignite, you know, can ignite the 531 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,440 offense in a way that's in the crown in general, 532 00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:45,759 you know, in a way that is definitely worth more 533 00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:48,759 than three points. So I don't know Terrence man, as 534 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,960 I said, I don't expect him to necessarily stuff the 535 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,400 box score, but I do expect him to be sort 536 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,680 of an important point of point of energy when we 537 00:28:58,759 --> 00:29:00,559 hit some of those lulls with this second unit. 538 00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:04,039 Speaker 2: I like that team. Man has had a lot of 539 00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:07,759 wins over the Lakers in his career as a Clippers. 540 00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:09,599 Speaker 1: Something to it, there's something to it. 541 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: He gets up for these games. So that's that's solid. 542 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,839 I like it. I was thinking about going with Man myself, all. 543 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,559 Speaker 1: Right, So that is gonna do it for a Lakers 544 00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:21,319 Clippers preview coming up. We're gonna talk. We're just gonna 545 00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:24,599 talk us some stuff all around the NBA. We'll talk 546 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,160 a little bit, as I mentioned up top about Charles 547 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,680 Barkley thinking there should be two All Stars for the Clippers, 548 00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:32,000 and a couple of front court names that have been 549 00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:35,240 mentioned that that could be potential trade targets. So all 550 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,720 that coming up in three two one. 551 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,359 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clips and Dip. I'm back of Ozlin 552 00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:45,559 Season three, episode forty one. 553 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: Chuck Man. I forgot to mention that on top, Chuck 554 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,640 is gonna be furious. 555 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be upset. We're gonna see him in 556 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,200 the comments section say some wild stuff later, just spamming us, 557 00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:00,359 you idiots. It's the one thing I asked for I've 558 00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,200 out of Bosa. We got will Updyke. If you missed 559 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,000 it last second, we talked about a little Clippers Lakers 560 00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:10,359 preview first of the season. But there's more going on 561 00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:13,559 on the periphery right now with this Clippers team, maybe 562 00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:18,319 than meets the I for one. Media members are actually 563 00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:24,079 giving them some love, like Sir Charles of the TNT broadcast. Now, 564 00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:26,640 if you're gonna say that's a jinx on this Clippers team, 565 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:27,599 maybe you're right. 566 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: But he didn't declare them champions. 567 00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:34,359 Speaker 2: No, that's true. He didn't get arountee they're gonna be champions. 568 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,519 But he made the case that two Clippers should be 569 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:43,079 All Stars this season. Two of the twelve Western Conference 570 00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:47,759 All Stars should be Clippers with James Harden and Norman Powell. 571 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,039 How do you feel about that? 572 00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:52,319 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I love it. I feel like it's 573 00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:55,799 gonna be. My concern with this is doesn't split the 574 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,960 vote like Norm Powell has sort of been in the 575 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:05,119 conversation all year, like with his scoring, can he crack 576 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,559 into that? And they talked about it actually a lot 577 00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:10,799 on the broadcast last night, and how you know, unfortunately 578 00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:13,240 fifty percent of the vote is the popular vote, the 579 00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:15,920 fan vote, and I don't really see him making a 580 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,039 whole lot of headway there. But what Jim Jackson and 581 00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:22,440 Brian Seman pointed out was that there is a coach vote, 582 00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:25,039 which could be something that you know, people who are 583 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,960 the people who are a little bit more tuned in 584 00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:29,720 might see him as a potential All Star, and I 585 00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:33,240 do think that that is the most likely avenue for 586 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:35,519 him to get in there. As far as both of 587 00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:37,559 these guys, I mean, it's just not going to happen. 588 00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:41,839 I'm so sorry. Remember the first year of the first 589 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,000 year of two and three, we only got one. For 590 00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:47,960 God's sakes, I mean, PG did miss I believe sixteen 591 00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:51,720 games to start the season and then sprinkled throughout some 592 00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:55,240 back to backs and stuff. But yeah, I don't see 593 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,200 it being two. If I have to choose one. That's 594 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,720 so it's really difficult for me because looking at Norm 595 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,039 and how important he's been to this team and how 596 00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:10,599 important he is to the over achieving that that that 597 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,000 we've done thus far in the season without Kawhi Leonard 598 00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:16,319 like heart. But on the other side, I'm beating myself 599 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,240 up here. Harden is the system. So it's kind of 600 00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:24,200 it's it's really difficult for me, uh. Part of me though, 601 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,880 I think also just for just for the the underdog 602 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,079 of it all, would really like to see Norm Powell 603 00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:32,839 get get an all get the All Star nod this 604 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,279 season in a Clippers uniform. So I don't think it's 605 00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:42,160 possible to get to it. Seems difficult that we might 606 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,680 even get one. But if we're getting one, I I 607 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,640 gotta give Norm Powell. I think to go ahead. 608 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, my heart says Norm. I think my head says 609 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:55,880 James Harden. 610 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: You're not wrong. 611 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: In the two games without James, Norman has really struggled, 612 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,200 and it's not I don't think it's because it's a 613 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,200 small sample size or whatever. I think it's because James 614 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,960 Harden makes life easier for everyone else, something we have 615 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:16,680 known pro long time, and it's just more difficult without him. 616 00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:20,000 I think they're more disrupted if he doesn't play than 617 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,519 if Norman Powell doesn't play. I think Norman Powell is 618 00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:26,680 more dependent on James Harden than James Harden is, and 619 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,240 the Clippers are on Norman Powell. But I love Norman Palell. 620 00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:37,519 He's just as deserving. I think it's really close, and 621 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,920 I would say this for the media members that came 622 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,880 into this season thinking the Clippers were going to be 623 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,039 a bottom four team in the Western Conference, and for 624 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:51,880 the fans who felt like that, maybe they should ask themselves, well, 625 00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:55,640 bottom five, bottom six, Maybe they should ask themselves the question, 626 00:33:57,119 --> 00:33:59,680 how are they doing this? How are the Clippers this 627 00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:03,799 good so far this season? And then reward those players 628 00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:06,640 who are most responsible for them currently being in the 629 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,920 five spot in the Western Conference and your. 630 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: Areas, you're thinking multiple All stars. 631 00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's gonna happen, but I 632 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,119 think they are deserving. I think it beats a Zoobots 633 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:18,639 is deserving of some recognition. 634 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:24,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I we talked about this. We talked 635 00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:26,519 about this briefly last night. I believe, but like it 636 00:34:26,599 --> 00:34:29,920 is like the third team all like all defensive. Is 637 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,000 that is that a possibility for Zoobots? 638 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: No, I think that's a great point. Come my god. 639 00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:36,840 He was so good against Portland in their night. Holy 640 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,679 the way he was just patrolling the paint. It was impressive, 641 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,320 Like he's been like this. But I was really keying 642 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,760 in on watching him because it just seemed like he 643 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,679 had a different attitude and energy because all the Clippers 644 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,280 did with the way they were focused in to start 645 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,440 that second half. But yeah, I think that's a great 646 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,920 point that it beats at Zoobots. You know, he's definitely 647 00:34:57,039 --> 00:34:59,440 not gonna be an All Star. Can he make an 648 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,239 All defense team? I think I think he has a 649 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,440 clear cut case. And Coach Lee was talking about this 650 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,480 before the season. That was a goal from a Visa Zubas, right, 651 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,400 so they tried to get some momentum started with that campaign. 652 00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:15,559 I hope people haven't forgotten because he's a huge reason 653 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,840 why they are the third best defense right now in 654 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,320 the NBA. 655 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,199 Speaker 1: Again well, and I would think that that would be 656 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,119 taken into account too, Like you know, this team as 657 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:29,800 this has always been, not always at various iterations since 658 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,159 the two and three era, been a good defense, been 659 00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:35,199 a top five defense before. But I don't think they've 660 00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:38,440 ever been this highly ranked. I don't think they've been 661 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,360 on this level. And Visa Zubots is an integral part 662 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,280 of that. So I would think, you know, again that 663 00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:49,719 the informed voters who you know, I'm going to give 664 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,760 them their flowers. I know how intelligent they are. That's 665 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,440 why they're going to vote for a Visa spots for 666 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:59,159 an all defensive team. But speaking of centers, everyone is 667 00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:03,719 aware of the issue at backup center for the Clippers. 668 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,599 It's something we talk about seemingly every year. But a 669 00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:11,519 couple of names have been mentioned sort of linked to 670 00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:15,880 the Clippers as some front court help, including Chris Bouchet 671 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,760 and Robert Williams the third. I'm curious your thoughts on 672 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,840 either one of these guys, and I'll just throw another 673 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,880 name in there, what about Valenciunas the If the asking 674 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,639 price is two seconds, which we've heard, would you get 675 00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:30,039 in the mix for that? Do any of these do 676 00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:32,039 anything for you as a backup center? 677 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I have to be a little 678 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,840 bit self serving, because I was upset with this report 679 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,760 earlier today and all the attention it garnered because I 680 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,639 had RTT Siegal from Clutch Points on like ten days 681 00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:48,480 ago on Clippers Talk and he brought up those two 682 00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:52,559 exact names, Robert Williams and Chris Bouchet, and nobody cared. 683 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,199 And now today he says it and everybody's like, oh wow, 684 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,519 this is crazy new information. I'm like ten days ago 685 00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:03,519 he said it. So anyways, it depends because the way 686 00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:06,960 he phrased the tweet was making everyone believe that Terrence 687 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,320 Man would have to be included. And I don't know 688 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,000 if I do Terrence Man for either of those players. 689 00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:15,840 If Robert Williams could stay healthy, yes, but he can't, 690 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,039 and he's twenty seven and has played less than two 691 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:23,000 hundred and fifty games in his career. Chris Busche is 692 00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:25,960 a good player, but he's an unrestricted free agent after 693 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,599 this season, so he could easily be a rental. And 694 00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:31,400 you're giving up Terrence Man and the three years remaining 695 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,840 on his contract after this season. That are pretty team 696 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,039 friendly for a guy who's thirty two and is likely 697 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,239 a rental when you don't even know if Kawai can 698 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:43,440 stay healthy. I don't love that. Now, Yon's Valanciunas who 699 00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:47,239 brought up if they could get him for cheap, I'm 700 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,639 good with that. He does have some downsides, like he's 701 00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:52,960 not great in the pick and roll. People think, oh, 702 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,719 he's this physical, you know, great defensive guy. He's not, in. 703 00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: Particular mind a lot of injuries. 704 00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:03,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's older too, but it's just because he's cooked 705 00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:06,000 the Clippers so many times and had his career high 706 00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:08,880 against them with seven three pointers that everybody's like, well, 707 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,480 you gotta get yonas valance shooters. Now I would. I 708 00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:14,400 would definitely love to have him for the right price. 709 00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:18,159 And if it's two seconds, or if it's PJ and 710 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,159 Bones Island in a second or something, I don't know, 711 00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:24,840 but yeah, I'd be interested. Let's say you uh. 712 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think of the three that, like 713 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,320 don Shooters is the one I'm the most interested in. 714 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,159 But again, it's just for the nostalgia factor. It's just 715 00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:35,639 for he's had some very good audition games against against 716 00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:39,119 the Clippers, much to our own detriment. And I echo 717 00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:42,679 your points. I mean, Bouche I think is interesting. It's 718 00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:46,480 definitely an upgrade over Bomba. It's it's just what the 719 00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:48,320 asking price is going to be. And no, I I 720 00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:50,039 that to me is not a trade that you give 721 00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:53,559 up an asset for Williams. I liked the idea of 722 00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:57,079 him as a backup on this team for kind of 723 00:38:57,079 --> 00:38:59,400 a while now ever since he's been out of Boston, 724 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,360 it just the availability is just too much of an issue. 725 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,559 It's just you know that, I don't know how you 726 00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:08,400 even have a conversation about adding him to your team 727 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,719 without that being you know, a major deciding factor because 728 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,440 he's not on the floor a lot. And and for 729 00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:21,760 all Mobama's deficiencies, which there are some, it's it's still 730 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,039 better to have that than nothing on the floor. I 731 00:39:24,639 --> 00:39:25,119 would say. 732 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Robert Williams to me projects as a starting level 733 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000 center if he could just stay healthy. Heah that good 734 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,920 of a rim protector and rim runner. He is a 735 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,920 great modern day prototypical archetype of what you want from 736 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,159 a center position. He just can't stay healthy. And he's 737 00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:45,599 kind of one. 738 00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:47,679 Speaker 1: Of those what ifs to me. You know, he is 739 00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:49,039 one of those what if players. 740 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,079 Speaker 2: If you could get him for cheap because of his 741 00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:54,400 injury history and because he has an extra year on 742 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,039 his deal after this season, and maybe Portland would just 743 00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:00,960 want to get out of that and you get him PJ. Tucker, 744 00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:04,199 something else to get him. Sure, if you're not giving 745 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,480 up much. But if the question is Terrence Man, I 746 00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:09,719 don't think I can do that just because you can't 747 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,000 stay healthy. 748 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree? All right, before we get 749 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,079 out of here. After this Lakers game, the Clippers have 750 00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:22,360 a back to back. The Lakers game is the start 751 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:28,119 of a four and five. Yeah, what what's your give? 752 00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,039 Me your quick prediction over the four and five. What 753 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,800 are the Clippers going in those four games? 754 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 2: So I was begging for them to win the last 755 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,199 two games. After I saw the reschedule and that four 756 00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:41,360 and five, I'm like, Okay, now you have to win 757 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,519 the next two. They did in dramatic fashion and devastating 758 00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:49,000 fashion for the opponent. H I think two and two, 759 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,079 I think just go too and two split him, find 760 00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:52,440 a way. 761 00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: But I need with the emphasis being on the with 762 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,639 the emphasis being a win over that Lakers team. 763 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's so big for the The other three 764 00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:05,519 games are against Eastern Conference teams. Yeah, this game is 765 00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:08,000 not just a rivalry game. You need to win against 766 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,039 the Western Conference. You need to win against a team 767 00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:13,320 that's close to you in the standings. It's just huge. 768 00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:16,440 It's not just you know, bragging rights from fans on 769 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,280 the line. This could be you know, you're playing three 770 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,159 more times after this, of course, but you got to 771 00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:26,519 win this season series against the Lakers, like you really do. 772 00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:28,480 That would put you in a great position to be 773 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,199 a top four seed in the West. 774 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's hugely impactful. If things went 775 00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:37,199 their absolute worst and they went one of three you know, 776 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,440 I could even stomach it a little bit if the 777 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,280 one win was a Western Conference win into a Dome, 778 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,079 not Lakers even aside, like if this was even another 779 00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:48,880 Western Conference team before, you know, before taking on three 780 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:56,320 Eastern teams, I would prefer that win. I'm feeling I'm 781 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,039 agreeing with you, though. I think two and two. I 782 00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:01,280 think two and two is very very possible, very very likely, 783 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,639 and if you're adding the Western Conference win as a 784 00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:08,559 feather in your cap and still just getting through those games, 785 00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:10,800 getting through this part of the season, so we get 786 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,559 into this All Star break and we can kind of 787 00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:17,119 come out and come out charge, and I'm happy with that. 788 00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:19,239 That being said, is there anything else you want to 789 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,079 say before before we get out of here. 790 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 2: It's kind of ridiculous that the Clippers got an extra 791 00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:27,440 back to back and the Lakers had one taken away. 792 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,480 They had a back to back taken away, the Clippers 793 00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:36,159 had one added to my knowledge. That's what I just 794 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,159 I can't believe that. 795 00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:41,039 Speaker 1: So what is the total now back to back is seventeen? 796 00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:46,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, Clippers are at seventeen. They already eleven teams had 797 00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:48,840 sixteen back to backs, including the Clippers coming into the season, 798 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,559 So it wasn't like, okay, I'll ten other teams have it, 799 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,519 but now they have the most I think unless Washington 800 00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:57,760 had one added because they were one of the teams 801 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,239 that was already at sixteen. But you know, obviously it's 802 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,639 more consequential and punitive for the Clippers because they have 803 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,039 a superstar who's not going to be playing one end 804 00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:11,280 of the back to back every time. So they got 805 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,639 this four and five and you already know coll I'm 806 00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:15,719 not playing more than two of these games coming up. 807 00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, we're going to have you close things 808 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,159 out with one thing positive. But first, just want to 809 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,960 let everybody know, let your friends know, let your family know. 810 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,840 If you want to support this show, if you want 811 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,559 to check us out, you can listen to us wherever 812 00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:31,480 you can get your podcast. If you happen to listen 813 00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:34,079 over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, leave a rating and review, 814 00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:36,760 leave a comment on Spotify. It helps us out. If 815 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,760 you want to watch us on video, you can do 816 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,239 that over at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers Podcasts. 817 00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:45,519 But you know, we appreciate you however you interact with 818 00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:47,480 the show. But before we get out of here, Adam, 819 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,280 leave the folks with something positive. 820 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 2: It looks like the Clippers have stepped on the gas 821 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,679 again after they had that lull, losing four or five 822 00:43:57,159 --> 00:43:59,840 in over a six game stretch. They were twentieth defensive 823 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,320 well over the last three games, the best defense in 824 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,760 the league by thirteen points per one hundred possessions. 825 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: Now, which is very real. There's no way you can 826 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,639 assail those numbers. 827 00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:21,280 Speaker 2: I get it Portland Brooklyn, but hey, they're taking on 828 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,119 a lot of other teams and they're not beating them 829 00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:25,320 by fifty nine points like the Clippers in Brooklyn the 830 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,960 other night. Now the Lakers win by sixty to nine 831 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:33,039 over Brooklyn. Now it sucks, but it just seems like 832 00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:35,480 this Clippers team said we have to refocus, we have 833 00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:37,920 to reset a little bit here, get back to basics, 834 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,880 which is something we were talking about a lot on here, 835 00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:43,679 and they have and then some and maybe are peaking 836 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,440 coming into this game against the Lakers where they're gonna 837 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,000 have Kawhi for it looks like at least twenty five minutes. 838 00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:53,559 So therefore there's a way to manage that to have 839 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,440 him in the fourth quarter some, I think some, so. 840 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,760 Speaker 1: I agree, five extra minutes is a big deal. 841 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so Sunday big game and the Clippers are primed 842 00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:05,519 for this one. 843 00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: It feels like, hell yeah, great note to end on 844 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,000 uh yeah, we'll catch you next time. Probably all three 845 00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:16,760 of us to Arts will be together, and who knows, 846 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,400 depending on how things go Sunday, we might have a 847 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,639 little live stream for you. I'm thinking, I'm thinking the 848 00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:24,320 move is probably gonna be right. But anyways, thank you 849 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,079 so much. It's been another episode of clips and dip. 850 00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:29,079 Let's go, Clippers.