WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.600 Let's get a drive toime Wednesday afternoon, eleven minutes past 2 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:06.639 the hour two o'clock. We do have some sunshine today 3 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:10.439 after potentially the biggest snowstorm we've had all your long 4 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:14.560 hit the area the region yesterday starting on Saint Patrick's 5 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:17.679 Day and then going throughout the night. But sunny, still 6 00:00:17.679 --> 00:00:20.039 a little bit chilly, about thirty eight degrees here in 7 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:23.399 downtown Salt Lake City, Utah. And we are high speed 8 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:25.839 heed to seventy degree weather next week. 9 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:26.920 We're almost there. 10 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:29.160 You guys thought we were through it, and you know, 11 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:31.760 march in Utah, you never know. 12 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:33.079 How are you good? 13 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:33.960 To have you long for the ride? 14 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.119 My name is Spence Checket's host this radio show. It 15 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:38.560 is called The Drive with Spence Checkets on ESPN seven 16 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:41.560 hundred ninety two ANDFM. We are proud to be part 17 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:45.280 of Utah's ESPN Radio network. Porter Larson producing the program 18 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:49.000 as always today on a jam pack Wednesday afternoon, the 19 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:54.159 day before the madness begins. We'll talk some college basketball 20 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:56.600 on the show today. We will help you fill out 21 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:59.359 your brackets. If you have not filled out brackets yet, 22 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:02.039 we are going to help you today to do just thats. 23 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:05.000 Chances are I was just outside in our canteen and 24 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:08.560 talking to my buddy Todd Nukem from X ninety six, 25 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:10.879 and Todd has never done a bracket before, but as 26 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:13.719 a result of a promo they're doing on the station, 27 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:15.799 he's going to fill a bracket out for this year. 28 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:18.359 And I'll say to you what I just said to Todd. 29 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:22.439 I watch college basketball. I like college basketball. I pay 30 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:25.680 attention to matchups and such, and it is more or 31 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:28.519 less an exercise in futility. You will not have a 32 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:31.680 perfect bracket. Such a thing does not exist. But we'll 33 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:34.599 give you the best chance possible and give you some 34 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:36.400 advice here or there and lean into some of the 35 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:40.879 local storylines. Is BYU and Utah State both are dancing. 36 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:44.439 We'll talk about those matchups coming up on the program today, 37 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:46.280 and then we'll kind of take a look at the 38 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.239 brackets and we'll get you ready. If you've never filled 39 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:51.480 out a bracket before, and you got a work email 40 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:54.000 or a family email, maybe a friend email or whatever, 41 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:56.400 and you're in a bracket challenge, that's kind of the 42 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:58.079 deal this time of year in the world of sports. 43 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:01.079 So we will help you out with your endeavor today. 44 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:04.120 Couple of play in games last night, the first four, 45 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:08.719 as they called them, great game between Alabama State and 46 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:11.719 Saint Francis. It was kind of a chaotic final play, 47 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:14.719 a full court pass that fell into the lap of 48 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:18.439 Alabama States, and they had a game winning lamp really 49 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:20.919 at the buzzer with just no time left, and so 50 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:23.319 they win and they advance on I think they're playing Duke. 51 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:27.400 Most people didn't believe North Carolina deserved to be in 52 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:31.639 the tournament. West Virginia namely the team that most people 53 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:34.879 thought should be in that spot. But North Carolina boat 54 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:39.000 raced a really good defensive basketball team right of the program. 55 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:42.280 Brian Dutcher, head coach of San Diego State, longtime assistant 56 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:46.039 coach with Michigan and of course San Diego State as well, 57 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:49.520 he is their headball coach. He believes in defense, and 58 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:53.599 that was not played last night. Carolina was on fire. 59 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:53.879 R J. 60 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:56.680 Davis the second leading scorer in North Carolina history, which 61 00:02:56.719 --> 00:02:59.560 is wild when you think about all the great basketball 62 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:04.080 players played in UNC Chapel Hill North Carolina. RJ had 63 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:06.680 twenty six last night, and Carolina got to win a 64 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:11.759 couple more playing games tonight this afternoon. First four Mount 65 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:16.439 Saint Mary's An American University, home of former nick GM 66 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:17.439 ed Tapscott. 67 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:20.039 There's a little knowledge for you. They're gonna get going 68 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:21.000 about four forty. 69 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:22.919 This is the time of year that if you're not 70 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:27.039 familiar with True TV, well you better get familiar True TV. 71 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:30.240 Both games tonight, you're gonna have Mount Saint Mary's An 72 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:32.840 American University at four forty. Then at seven to ten 73 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:36.400 it's Xavier and it's Texas. A lot of people believe 74 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.240 Texas should not be in the tournament as well, but 75 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:40.120 we'll see if they can do what Carolina did. 76 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:42.360 The real tournament gets rolling tomorrow. 77 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:45.240 East Region first round action two oh five million time 78 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:50.039 on Turner is VCU and BYU, a six to eleven 79 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.479 seed game. We'll talk about that. We'll get you ready 80 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:56.000 for that matchup. BYU remains a slight favorite, but this 81 00:03:56.120 --> 00:04:00.000 is not a easy matchup for Brigham Young coming off 82 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:03.400 a really solid season. But we'll get you ready for 83 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:06.319 that game and we'll talk some about madness. Utah State 84 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:09.080 has to wait until seven to twenty five million time 85 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:13.719 tomorrow night, also on TNT, to take on UCLA in 86 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:18.800 rupp Arena in Lexington, Kentucky. BYUS at Ballerina in Denver, Colorado. 87 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:22.199 But a lot of really fun matchups. Love the tournament. 88 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:25.079 I think it's the best individual sporting event we have 89 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:28.399 on our calendar. That's just my personal opinion. And you 90 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:30.040 never know how it's gonna go down, which makes a 91 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:31.839 lot of fun. So a lot of great games starting 92 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:35.639 tomorrow in the NCAA Tournament. Kind of a light night 93 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:40.480 last night in the world of pro basketball. Theyink only 94 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:44.000 five games last night, actually four games last night, and 95 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:47.399 tonight it will be a little bit more jam packed, 96 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:50.680 and there's actually a sneaky big game here in Salt Lake. 97 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:55.319 The race to the bottom shines on the Delta Center 98 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:58.680 tonight as Washington is in town to take on the Jazz. 99 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:03.160 Both teams have fifteen wins, Washington fifteen and fifty two. 100 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:06.199 The Jazz are fifteen and fifty four. Quick Math says 101 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:09.879 those records are really pathetic, but both teams trying to 102 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:11.600 do what they can to stay at the bottom to 103 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.399 get the best chance they have possible at drafting one 104 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.759 Cooper Flag. Speaking of Cooper Flag, he is expected to 105 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:21.600 play when Duke takes the floor, and that's going to 106 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:25.000 be on Friday. So Duke with one more day to 107 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:26.639 get a little bit of rest. They don't know their 108 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:29.560 opponent yet. They're gonna have to wait for the playing tonight. 109 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:33.319 But it is an early afternoon game for Duke in 110 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:37.720 North Carolina. You know, conspiracy theories abound, but Cooper flag 111 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:40.560 expected to play. I wouldn't be stunned if they hold 112 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:44.079 him out on that one sixteen game, because sixteens don't 113 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:44.680 beat ones. 114 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:45.720 That just doesn't happen. 115 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:48.920 But if you're a Jazz fan wondering why they are 116 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:51.720 doing what they are doing, I would consider watching Duke 117 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:54.959 basketball this year, so Washington in town to take on 118 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:57.920 the Jazz. I don't know who the Jazz will sit. 119 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.720 I don't know who they're going to play. I would 120 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.519 imagine they're gonna sit a lot of players. And their 121 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:07.079 recent answer to this is how we're going to tank 122 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:11.800 is letting Walker Kessler shoots a grip of three point shots. 123 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:13.959 Oh wait a second, we have the Jazz injury report 124 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:17.720 Lowry market. It is out for personal reasons quote unquote 125 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.399 personal reasons. Remember the Jazz were fined for sitting Lowry 126 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:24.560 last week. John Collins out, kJ Martin out, Spee, makay 127 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:28.920 Lukaut Jaden springer out Walker Kessler is available, but I 128 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:31.199 bet he doesn't play. I think they're gonna sit most 129 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:33.519 of their good players trying to lose to Washington tonight 130 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:37.720 to maintain their spot at the bottom of pro basketball. 131 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:41.560 The Minnesota Vikings are no longer in the Aaron Rodgers sweepstakes, 132 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:46.600 apparently after the Steelers made their intentions well known. Apparently 133 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.879 people are just like annoyed with Aaron Rodgers, who is 134 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:53.319 just taking his time standing on a beach. Porter sent 135 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:55.160 me a picture of Aaron Rodgers standing on a beach 136 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:57.000 in a blanket. I don't know where that was because 137 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:58.839 he's no longer the quarterback of the Jets and he's 138 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:02.680 no longer my issue. But a lot of NFL offse's news. 139 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:03.920 We'll kind of touch on some of that on the 140 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:07.399 program today. Latest with the big story in the market, 141 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:10.040 Alex Jensen hired as the head coach of the Utes, 142 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:14.079 latest rumors about him filling out his staff. Will kind 143 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:16.199 of get into some of that on the program today. 144 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:18.560 And a lot to do, a lot to do on 145 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:20.959 the program. We'll start things off today with Neil Smith. 146 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:24.439 You know, I was telling Porter before we went on air, 147 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:26.720 I was gonna watch Carolina San Diego State, and then 148 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:28.839 Carolina went up like twenty in the first half. I'm like, 149 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:31.639 you could tell that San Diego State had no answers. 150 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:34.519 So I'm like, I'm gonna watch the entire Utah Hockey 151 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:37.480 Club game last night and they got stopped. 152 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:40.480 They got stopped by Edmonton. 153 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:42.720 And it was not a close game at all, So 154 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:45.319 the Utah Hockey Club tried to tread water to stay 155 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:47.759 in the mix for that wildcard spot. 156 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:48.519 So we'll get you ready. 157 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:51.319 It was seven to one on the road at Edmonton 158 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:54.920 and Connor McDavid's a good player. 159 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:56.199 That's my breakdown today. 160 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:58.959 But Neil Smith will be our first guest, former general 161 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:00.600 manager of the New York Ranger, to break down the 162 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:02.240 world to pro hockey. Get to move over to Tim 163 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:06.279 McMahon for our NBA daily assist. Chris Comaradni will have 164 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:09.879 a Wednesday hit today instead of a Friday hit, and 165 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:11.839 it is sunny outside, so we'll see if Chris will 166 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:15.600 leave his house, and then an entire hour with Ken 167 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.839 Pomeroy and we will go over region by region to 168 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:21.639 help you guys fill out your brackets today. Neil Smith, 169 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:24.959 Tim McMahon, Chris Comraaddi, Ken Pomeroy, Me, Spence Check. Its 170 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:27.800 all of you, the great listeners. Happy Wednesday to you. 171 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:30.040 Halfway through your work week. One day closer to the weekend. 172 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:33.639 What was that picture you sent me of Aaron Rodgers. 173 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:35.279 It looked like he was just standing on a beach, 174 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:38.720 wearing a blanket. Yeah, pontificating on life, for pondering. 175 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:40.200 It just looked like he's having a moment. 176 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:41.559 Where was that. 177 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:44.320 Honestly, it looked like me on. 178 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:50.240 Like any any sort of random weekend, weekend morning on 179 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:53.759 a beach somewhere. And yeah, he looked he looked like 180 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:56.360 he was a little disheveled, which was kind of interesting 181 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:01.240 to see a millionaire star quarterback in that formula. That's 182 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.519 kind of his vibe. Now, I think Aaron Rodgers. 183 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:06.799 At what point does everybody just say we've had enough 184 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:10.080 because you can deal with the mountain if he's still 185 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:11.120 a good player. 186 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:14.320 Yeah, I said it, like I think when the Jets 187 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:15.879 were trying to sign him the first time was like 188 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:18.159 kind of when I was out on Aaron Rodgers because 189 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:21.919 I didn't think, and especially after the Achilles injury, was 190 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:25.279 really worth the risk on a guy that's now forty 191 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:29.399 plus years old playing the quarterback position at you know, 192 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:32.879 an NFL average level at best. Right now, for me, 193 00:09:32.919 --> 00:09:35.840 it's just not worth the headache. But I mean, I'm 194 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:38.600 not gonna feel bad for Aaron Rodgers. He's got plenty 195 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:42.399 to do whatever he wants to do. I'm focused on 196 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:45.840 the NCAA tournament and the madness we saw last night. 197 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:48.960 Of course, if you are wondering Spence on True TV 198 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:54.320 tonight after tournament, East Bounded Down Marathon and in Practical Jokers. 199 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:57.759 By the way, I forgot what an awesome show He's 200 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:00.159 Bounded Down is because I was flipping back and forth 201 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:03.559 and then it was interrupted by commercials. And Danny McBride 202 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:06.480 currently right now is a sewn HBO called Righteous Gemstones. 203 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:07.720 I've told you this before. 204 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:11.120 Danny McBride is one of the few creators that whatever 205 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:13.080 he does, i'm I'm given a chance. 206 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.720 And it's interesting because even though some of it is 207 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:19.879 just completely outrageous, it's all like actually just Danny McBride. 208 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:21.720 He writes it all. You know, he's part of the 209 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:24.960 directing and and producing of it all. So you do 210 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:28.559 see like a creative product from one source. It's not 211 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:30.919 like the I feel like so much of it is 212 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:35.279 commercialized streaming NBC shows. You don't really know where the 213 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:38.840 storyline's coming from, how many writers are involved. So the 214 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:44.000 story actually is like you mentioned Righteous Gemstones, It's like 215 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:47.320 seven years of a real storyline that flows together. It's 216 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:50.480 completely insane and ridiculous, but it's awesome. 217 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:54.919 Adam Scott has a cameo on He's Found and Down 218 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:57.240 as the agent that I still. If I'm in a 219 00:10:57.279 --> 00:10:59.960 bad mood, I'll pull up that scene and it is hillearo. 220 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.279 If you've never watched Eastbounding Down, make sure the kids are. 221 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:05.720 In bed, and if the significant other is a little 222 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:08.639 bit squeamish for certain language and scenes, maybe leave her 223 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:09.039 a side. 224 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.000 It's an HM side it is. 225 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:13.759 Or catch it on True TV and you got a 226 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:14.559 censored version of it. 227 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:17.639 Indeed, so following the first four, I am not going 228 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:20.159 to take your bait because I've already made my point 229 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:21.840 and you can die on the hill you've died on 230 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:25.440 you've decided to live on after the first four, which 231 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:28.039 it is labeled by, but the people in charge prior 232 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:30.679 to the terminent tomorrow, you can watch Eastbounding Down on 233 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:31.200 True TV. 234 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:34.200 Did we at least get some madness, though recop to 235 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:36.039 that the first game was awesome. It's not a great game. 236 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:38.480 Yeah, then Carolina ran away from San Diego State. All right, 237 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:41.000 we've misbehaved in the opening segment, so let's get to it. 238 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:43.759 Neil Smith as our first guest. But before we get 239 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:46.000 to Neil to talk some hockey on a Wednesday afternoon, 240 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:47.399 it's time now for your opening tip. 241 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:51.440 Welcome to the Drive with Spence Check its on Utah's 242 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:54.799 number one sports talk. Now into the studios of ESPN 243 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:57.440 seven hundred to set the scene for the show. 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I think that's probably right. 278 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:31.159 You can make an argument for a five seed. As 279 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:33.759 I've said all week, if I'm a BYU fan, I'm 280 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.840 glad they're in Denver, and I'd rather have a six 281 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:38.080 seed in Denver than a five seed in like Newark 282 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.960 or whatever. But the matchup is a little bit problematic, 283 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:44.879 and you know a lot of national people really think 284 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:48.279 BYU is built for a fun run. But BYU fans 285 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:51.200 have so much PTSD from good teams not doing well 286 00:13:51.559 --> 00:13:54.480 as recently as a year ago, then I think BYU 287 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:56.879 fans just want to see a win in the NCAA tournament. 288 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:59.399 The BYU Cougars have not won a tournament game since 289 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:02.440 two twelve, and that was a first four play in game, 290 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:04.480 and they have not advanced to the round of thirty 291 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:07.320 two since Jimmerfoerdett was making a rain every night. The 292 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:10.000 problem is VCU is very well coached. You guys know 293 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:14.039 Ryan odlemy coach Utah State, and Ryan Odum rumor to 294 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:17.720 potentially grab the Virginia job that Tony Bennett left. Mac 295 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:21.440 Max Schulge is their point guard who played at Utah State. 296 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:24.320 He's the A ten Player of the year. He averages 297 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:27.440 about fifteen points, six boards, four assists, shoots thirty nine 298 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:31.360 percent from three and is a problem as a guard. 299 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:32.879 They have three really good guards. 300 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:34.879 They have three really good guards, and they have four 301 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:39.600 upper classmen in their starting lineup and three I should 302 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:43.080 say four seniors, not upper classmen, four seniors in their 303 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:43.840 starting lineup. 304 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:45.960 They have two players that have played in an Elite 305 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:46.399 eight that. 306 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:49.799 Are grad transfers for Ryan Odum, and three of the 307 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:52.720 seniors are fifth year guys and one of the seniors 308 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:56.600 is a seventh year player. They also have three six 309 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:02.600 to ten players that oftentimes play together. And so ultimately BYU. 310 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:04.600 This is gonna sound simplistic, but I do think you 311 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:08.039 can be reductive with his matchup. BYU has to create 312 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:11.320 space on the perimeter and knock down threes. But if 313 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:14.200 they're not shooting well, and the problem with this tournament 314 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:18.080 is we see so many good teams overcome by the 315 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:21.039 moments and they just can't get it done and they 316 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:23.519 don't shoot the ball well. And if BYU doesn't shoot 317 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:26.879 it well from three, I think they're in trouble. BYU 318 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:29.759 is a three point favorite in this matchup, even though 319 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:30.879 it's a six to eleven seed. 320 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:33.080 I believe, and we'll talk to Ken about this. 321 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:36.720 VCU I think is thirty one in the net and 322 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:41.960 I think BYU is twenty five. A six team gap 323 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:44.799 in the net is not a lot for a six 324 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:47.840 to eleven seed. So I like BYU. I like the 325 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:50.600 way they've been built. I think if they can create 326 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:53.039 space on the perimeter knockdown shots, they have a shot 327 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:55.440 to go to the Sweet sixteen this year. But they've 328 00:15:55.519 --> 00:15:58.200 got to get out a very tough first round game 329 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:02.600 against a defensive minded pressure team that plays a lot 330 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:05.200 like Houston. Ryan Odom does not have the personnel Kelvin 331 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.559 Samson has, but they want to get up in you, 332 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:10.240 they want to play hard defense, they want to pressure you. 333 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:13.399 And I'll be interested to see how Yegor Demon responds 334 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:16.519 to the pressure that VCU brings, because he has not 335 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:19.360 responded to pressure well all year long. That's when Kevin 336 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:21.960 Young has had to go to down Hall and taken 337 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:22.879 Yegor Demon out. 338 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:24.240 So we'll see. 339 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:27.279 Utah State is that one of the most historic venues 340 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:31.360 in college basketball rop Arena in Lexington, Kentucky, the home 341 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:35.120 of the Kentucky Wildcats, and they welcome in a good, 342 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:38.639 not great UCLA team. It's a seven to ten matchup. 343 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.519 Ucla is a I believe a five point favorite. Don't 344 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:43.440 quote me. I'm gonna check the line during the break, 345 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:48.559 and UCLA out of the Big Ten, which still sounds weird. Ultimately, 346 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:50.840 they've got some really good wins this year. They beaton 347 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:53.679 Zaga home, but they followed out with losses in five 348 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:56.480 of their six games after that. They've got to win 349 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.879 over Wisconsin. They've got wins over Oregon, Michigan State. They 350 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:02.440 stumbled a bit down the stretch, going three and three 351 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:05.160 to finish off losing to Wisconsin in the Big Ten 352 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:09.680 championship game. Mick Cronin and Jared Calhoun they're good buddies, 353 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:12.359 according to what Mick had to say when the five 354 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:14.440 point five is the line now, thank you porter. So 355 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:18.440 UCLA five point five point favorite, so you know, Utah 356 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:21.079 stay with an opportunity once again. It's I think they're 357 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:23.200 fourth straight NCAA tournament. I think it's seven in the 358 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.480 last eight years or something. But two local teams in 359 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:29.079 the tournament. The madness gets rolling tomorrow after the final 360 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:31.720 two play in games Tonight on True TV. 361 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:35.519 This is Neil Smith, former president and GM of the 362 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:38.119 New York Rangers and the New York Islanders join me 363 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:41.519 and my co host Vic Morn for our podcast NHL 364 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:45.279 Wrap Around for all the important news and views around 365 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:46.000 the NHL. 366 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:48.400 All right, we've got Tim McMahon. 367 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.839 Stop them by the show today to drop our NBA 368 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:53.680 Daily Assists. 369 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:55.160 There's a big game tonight. 370 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:58.039 The two worst teams in pro basketball are playing here 371 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:02.720 in Salt Lake at the Delta Center, Washington, Utah. 372 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:04.160 The race for the bottom is on. 373 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:07.759 And then Chris Comraaddie from The Athletic We're gonna help 374 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.119 you fill out your brackets during the four o'clock hour, 375 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:13.200 and the great Ken Pomeroy from Kenpalm dot Com is 376 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:16.200 live in studio. But the Utah Hockey Club went up 377 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:19.480 to Edmonton last night and they got their breaks blown 378 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:22.920 off seven to one. Edmonton gets the win. The hockey 379 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.079 club trying to stay alive in that wildcard race. So 380 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:29.440 let's bring in the man that educates, entertains, informs when 381 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:31.359 it comes to the world of professional hockey, the Great 382 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:33.960 Neil Smith on a Wednesday afternoon. 383 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:35.359 Neil, Happy Wednesday, sir. 384 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:37.319 How are you happy Wednesday? 385 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:37.400 Do you? 386 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:40.599 And happy the delated Saint Patrick's Day from Monday? 387 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:44.839 Yes, indeed, Saint Patrick's Day Monday, and Neil, in case 388 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:47.400 you didn't know, birthday for your guy over here, my 389 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:48.759 birthday is Saint Patrick's Day. 390 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:52.799 Oh that's my sister's birthday. Well look at that. That's great. 391 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:57.119 Happy birthday. I know you are you your twenty six now? 392 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:01.319 Oh goodness, goodness, Neil, I'm a rapidly but you know, 393 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:03.400 like I'm not that old. So I always feel bad 394 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:05.039 when I say that I'm old. But I just turned 395 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:05.640 forty seven. 396 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:08.960 Oh my well, you're a youngster. You're a youngster. You 397 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:10.279 got a long way to go to catch me. 398 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:12.640 Well, I appreciate it. 399 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:15.720 It's but Neil, I'm old enough now to realize that 400 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.039 just like physical pain is probably part of the deal, right, 401 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:19.680 you just get up in the hip perts or whatever. 402 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:21.920 It's just kind of the deal, right, That's. 403 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:25.079 Just part of that's just part of the aging system, 404 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:30.039 is that everything seems to start working less efficiently as 405 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:30.720 we go along. 406 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:32.920 Yes, indeed, hey, before we get into kind of the 407 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:35.359 nuts and bolts of what happened last night and where 408 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:38.039 we're at with our local hockey club, I've just got 409 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:41.039 a question about Connor McDavid. And I know that people 410 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:43.680 that really know hockey know that who Connor McDavid. You 411 00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:45.640 know who Connor McDavid is and what he is in 412 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:47.720 the ecosystem. 413 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:47.720 Of pro hockey. 414 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:50.640 But I was telling my producer reporter during the break like, 415 00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:53.920 even if you don't know a sport, you always know 416 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:58.240 the guy that's different, right, And there's just something I 417 00:19:58.279 --> 00:19:59.839 don't know if it's just his speed. 418 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:01.440 I don't know if it's just his skill. 419 00:20:01.519 --> 00:20:04.519 There there's something about Connor McDavid that sets him apart 420 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:08.319 from the best players every time I watch him play. 421 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:10.480 What makes him as special as he is. 422 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:14.440 I think it's his speed. A it's his fact that 423 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:17.000 he's six over six, what he's about six ft three. 424 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:21.839 He can do things at a higher rate of speed 425 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:24.839 than some people could do it in on his shoes on. 426 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:27.759 You know, he can do things on the ice at 427 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:31.599 a very high rate of speed that people can't just 428 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:35.359 can't imagine. So I think that he embodies what people 429 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:38.880 love about hockey, and that is the speed, the physicality, 430 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:41.559 and the skill. And I think that he's able to 431 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:44.480 He's certainly not a physical player in the sense of 432 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:47.400 throwing out big body checks, but he can take whatever 433 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:49.920 physical play you want to play on him, and I 434 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:52.920 think that that's why you always notice ninety seven. If 435 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.119 you go to an Edmonton game, there's no way you're 436 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:59.880 leaving without having seen and noticed ninety seven. 437 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:00.480 In the eights. 438 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:02.839 They had one play last night. 439 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:06.960 They had a power play opportunity, and I honestly don't 440 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:10.440 know how often hockey teams run like set plays the 441 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:13.599 way basketball teams do, like a one four flat, a 442 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:16.200 pick and roll, or you know whatever it is. But 443 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:19.880 it was very intentional to get Connor McDavid the puck 444 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:22.920 as he had momentum, and the rest of the guys 445 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:25.599 looked like they were just flat footed. I mean, it 446 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:29.640 was pretty remarkable. What's your take on Edmonton overall as 447 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:32.440 a team. I mean, obviously we're prisoner of the moment 448 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:35.240 because they just stomped the hockey club seven to one. 449 00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:37.359 But I was very impressed with what I saw last 450 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:39.000 night from the Edmonton Oilers. 451 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:41.599 Well you'd have to be, because there was a beatdown. 452 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:45.440 But Edmonton is a very inconsistent team. You really don't 453 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:47.079 know what you're going to get from one night to 454 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:49.640 the next. They have the ability to do what they 455 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:51.559 did last night, and they also have the ability to 456 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:55.119 turn around and lose to a bottom feed or team 457 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:59.160 because they're for whatever reason. And last night, here's the 458 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:02.799 impressive thing about last night, and it happened to be Utah. 459 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:05.880 It could have been anybody. Anybody in that building last 460 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:09.079 night was going to get beat. The impressive thing for 461 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:14.279 Edmondson was seven goals, fourteen assists probably on those seven 462 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:18.279 goals or however many and Leon dry Title, the leading 463 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:21.359 scorer in the NHL goals wise, didn't get a point, 464 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:25.359 So that means they had contributions from all kinds of 465 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:29.720 people those to get those seven goals, but none of 466 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:32.920 them were Leon dry Sitle. Usually you'll go to you'll 467 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:35.359 watch an Oiler game and dry Title will get one 468 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:38.559 or two. I thought he might get his fiftieth last 469 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:43.839 night in Salt Lake, I'm sorry, in Edmonton against Utah, 470 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:45.880 but he wasn't able to do it. But just think 471 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:50.160 how stacked is your team when your best scorer doesn't 472 00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:51.960 get a point and you win seven to one. 473 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:54.680 Yeah, that is impressive. 474 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:59.720 I wonder so coach Tourney pulled the Melka after Correll 475 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:02.319 gave up three goals and went with Jackson. 476 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:04.839 Staberg didn't do any better. He gave up four. 477 00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:09.279 But last night was Correll's twelfth straight start in goal, 478 00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:12.480 and that's a career high. Connor ingram away from the 479 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:15.319 team dealing with some personal things as we discussed last year, 480 00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:18.519 do you think you could draw a straight line? I mean, 481 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:20.640 I just thought it was kind of ironic as the 482 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:24.079 broadcast was outlining that Vimelka had never started twelve straight before. 483 00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:26.960 Then suddenly the game starts and he just he was 484 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:29.200 up against it. There wasn't much she could do. Do 485 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:31.960 you think it's a fatigue thing? Is that a concern 486 00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:34.400 now that there are other kind of first choice guys 487 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:36.759 on the sidelines, that Vimelka looked as tired as he 488 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:37.440 did last night? 489 00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:43.599 You know, certainly could be it, because you know, that's 490 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:45.839 tough to keep playing night after night in the National 491 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:49.319 Hockey League, in today's NHL, where you're playing almost every 492 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:53.960 other day on average. So you know, it could be 493 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:56.759 that it could be a combination of him being tired 494 00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:59.440 and Edmonton also being at the top of their game 495 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:04.920 last night. You know, he played two days earlier in Vancouver, 496 00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:08.200 they fly over to Edmonton get ready for that game. 497 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:10.400 Now they've got one day off and they're going to 498 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:13.359 be two more night against Buffalo and that's just the 499 00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:15.799 way the NHL works. But it's hard when you're running 500 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:19.920 one goalie all the time. And you know, Jackson Stauber 501 00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:22.920 is a fine young guy, but he's you know, is 502 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:24.079 he ready for the show? 503 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:25.279 You know, I don't know. 504 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:27.559 He wasn't up. The only reason he's up is because 505 00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:29.799 Connor Ingram has had to take his leave of the absence. 506 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:32.920 So we'll see. I mean, Vanilka is a good goalie, 507 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:35.440 may have had an off night, or maybe coach Torny 508 00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:37.000 thought that he was having an off night, so he 509 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:39.200 better to rest him, get him out of there. A 510 00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:41.680 lot of coaches too, you know, they think they're down 511 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.960 for nothing to Edmonton and they say, look, we're not 512 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:48.400 winning this game, so I'm taking my guy out to 513 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:50.799 give him a rest. Let him wait for the Buffalo 514 00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:53.319 game now. And you see that happen a lot. 515 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.039 So where we find ourselves now? 516 00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:58.680 And I don't know, Like I was talking to a 517 00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:01.200 couple of guys with the hockey, the work on the 518 00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:05.200 broadcast side, and a gentleman who's producing games, who used 519 00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:08.400 to produce the Arizona Coyotes games, and he's been around 520 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:11.279 the NHL for about twenty years and This was about 521 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:12.599 a week and a half ago, and I said, do 522 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:14.319 you think they're gonna make it? He said, I don't 523 00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:18.079 think most people understand how hard it is to make 524 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:20.400 up even three or four points over the final fifteen 525 00:25:20.519 --> 00:25:21.400 sixteen games. 526 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:24.279 And he painted kind of a bleak. 527 00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:26.880 Picture as far as the hockey club qualifying for the 528 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.480 wild card, Neil, and where we're at now is a 529 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.599 four point gap with fourteen games left to play. Have 530 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:36.359 stranger things happened, certainly, But what's the Neil Smith? I 531 00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:39.240 guess I'll say, like handicap, the chances of us seeing 532 00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:41.240 playoff hockey here in Utah this year. 533 00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:46.240 I don't think they're very good. Because your friend was 534 00:25:46.279 --> 00:25:49.079 absolutely right. You've got to jump so many teams and 535 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:52.799 you've got to put together a string of wins, and 536 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:58.279 even then you might gain two points up. Because here's 537 00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:01.319 the thing that people have to understand. Well, it looks 538 00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:05.720 like you're only you know, four points back of Vancouver 539 00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:10.119 and Saint Louis, who are tied. Everybody's playing every night, 540 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:13.559 and everybody's getting points here and there, or teams in 541 00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:16.839 between you and that wild card spot are getting teams 542 00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:21.160 top points. Last night, A horrible thing for the Utah 543 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:25.240 Hockey Club. Happened. Everybody thought that Calgary would go down 544 00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:28.799 to the Rangers. Calgary had got killed in Toronto the 545 00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:32.359 night before. They got in at three am. They put 546 00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:35.640 their backup goalie in and they beat the Rangers. The 547 00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:39.319 Rangers had only four of their forwards had shots on 548 00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:41.960 net last night, so they put in a horrible effort. 549 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:44.880 Calgary comes away with the two points. Stuff like that 550 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:49.720 really hurts Utah's chance to jump over teams. Now, if 551 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:52.839 they put together a string of five or six teams 552 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:56.240 and then go back to five hundred after that, you know, 553 00:26:56.920 --> 00:26:59.359 then they're you know, they got a real shot. But 554 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:03.480 they at this point to hurdle over these teams who 555 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.119 are playing every night, because what will happen is you'll 556 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:09.079 win a game, say the Buffalo, and then you look 557 00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:11.319 back at the standings and you'll say, oh my god, 558 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.200 we're still four points behind. Well, the reason for that 559 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:18.519 is because Vancouver went in and beat Saint Louis on 560 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:21.960 the same night as you beat Buffalo, so they got 561 00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:24.319 two more points. You've got two more points. You're still 562 00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:27.519 the same number behind. So it's very difficult. You've got 563 00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:31.359 to put together a string of wins to make up 564 00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:32.359 some ground. 565 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:34.720 And only fourteen games left. 566 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.759 I mean, there's not a lot of opportunities now to 567 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:39.279 make up the ground. 568 00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:40.160 God Neil Good. 569 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:44.279 Let me give you the optimist side of this. They 570 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:50.799 play only eight games out of those fourteen, eight of 571 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:56.680 them are against non playoff teams, teams that currently sit 572 00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.680 in outside the playoffs eight out of their fourteen, meaning 573 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:05.240 only six of the fourteen are the battling playoff teams. 574 00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:09.319 They played Tampa Bay twice, once in Utah, once in Tampa, 575 00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:13.640 they play Florida, they play La King's, Winnipeg, and Dallas. 576 00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:16.160 That's the playoff teams that they've got to play against. 577 00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:19.000 They're going to make sure that when they get the chance, 578 00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:21.920 like with Buffalo, who's one of the weak sisters last 579 00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.240 in the East, they got to take advantage of that. 580 00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:29.079 And they have to beat Buffalo on Thursday night to 581 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.119 make up some ground that we've been talking about. 582 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:36.799 So if we just kind of exist in reality and 583 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:39.400 we just admit that it's going to be tough while 584 00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:42.240 maintaining a little bit of hope, because that's what being 585 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:45.720 a sports fan is. What would you say about what 586 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.720 this year has meant to the club, being in a 587 00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:52.400 new market, and what would you say to the fans 588 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:55.720 about the future of where we could find ourselves based 589 00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:57.720 off of the way that Bill Armstrong and his staff 590 00:28:57.759 --> 00:28:58.960 have put together this roster. 591 00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:06.000 Well, what I think is really optimistic and good or 592 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:10.279 positive for this hockey club is that they've gotten to 593 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:13.759 a new market, They've gotten settled in, they've got a 594 00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:17.599 fan base, they've got a beautiful arena. They're going to 595 00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:21.559 change the name or even leaving it the same, will 596 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.359 be changing it, if you know what I mean, because 597 00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:26.400 it's still that's still something exciting that's out there that's 598 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:28.640 going to happen in the offseason. They got a lot 599 00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:32.599 of good young talent. They're an up and coming organization. 600 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:37.359 They do have a cover that has quite a bit 601 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:40.039 of assets in it. So I think that you're seeing 602 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.920 a team, but we've talked about this from the first 603 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:47.240 day that's on the verge of getting into that group 604 00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:51.799 of playoff teams. And once you break into that, then 605 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:54.920 somebody's trying to knock you to get you out and 606 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.279 let them get in, and that's really hard, as you 607 00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:01.240 can see. But I think they've made megas Epps since 608 00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:03.880 they've gotten to Utah compared to where they were at 609 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.759 in Arizona. With Arizona, there wasn't a lot of hope. 610 00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:11.319 There wasn't a lot of money to be spent on 611 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:16.000 free agents. There was Bill Armstrong was basically operating with 612 00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:21.359 one arm, handcuffed. Now he's not. He's got a good owner, 613 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:24.079 he's got a good fan base, he's got people that 614 00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:28.480 want hockey in that city, unlike Arizona. So I think 615 00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:30.640 you're miles ahead of where you were last year. 616 00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:32.880 You know, before I said you loose, I know you 617 00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:34.759 got to get going today. I wanted you to settle 618 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:37.880 a debate that I was having with my brothers, actually, 619 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:42.759 who are hockey hockey guys? In a way that you know, 620 00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.440 I just never have been entirely. I enjoyed the sport, 621 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:47.640 loved growing up, going to ranger games and all that. 622 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.200 We were talking about the Four Nations, and you know, 623 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:51.559 we were. 624 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:54.559 Talking about the tournament because it was such a pleasant 625 00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:57.160 surprise for so many people that didn't think it was 626 00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.920 going to be anything all that entertaining. If Russia is 627 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.359 allowed in, are they the best hockey country or is 628 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:04.160 it still Canada? 629 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.759 You know, I'm Canadian, so of course I'm going to 630 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:12.480 think that it's Canada, but I think that Russia produces 631 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:16.240 a ton of great hockey players, and on any given 632 00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:19.960 year it could go either way. I think that the 633 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.559 I think that the only way you know who truly 634 00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:29.599 is the world's best team is when you have a 635 00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:33.519 full complement of countries in it, which includes Russia. But 636 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:36.240 I don't want to see them in as long as 637 00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:39.599 they're going in and trying to take over other countries 638 00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.160 and do what they've been doing in the last two years. 639 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:48.039 I just don't think that we should we should ignore that. 640 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:51.799 I think that we should, you know, say, okay, in 641 00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:54.640 our little world of hockey, you know, if you're going 642 00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:56.480 to do that, you're not part of our world. So 643 00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:01.319 but they are a tremendous breeding ground for hockey players. 644 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:04.599 Neil, where can our listeners go find the podcast before 645 00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:05.640 I set you loose. 646 00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:10.440 Anywhere anywhere on any platform NHL wrapped around. We had 647 00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.680 Paul Maurice, Stanley Cup winning coach on a couple of 648 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:17.400 weeks ago, and we're coming down the stretch here and 649 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:21.279 we're looking at everything as closely as we can and 650 00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:25.160 give you everything we can of tidbits on the NHL. 651 00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:27.400 But do you know who I'm going to dinner with tonight? 652 00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.160 Who's that? Your father? 653 00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:30.640 Oh? 654 00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:33.440 Very nice, very nice, very nice. Where you guys going 655 00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:34.559 to go in. 656 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.720 The city at Wolfgang Steakhouse and Amy k will be 657 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.359 there and ken Unos will be there. Oh, I don't 658 00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:43.079 know all those names, so that it's going to be 659 00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:45.839 a lot of fun and I'm really looking forward to that. 660 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:47.720 Oh, and you're going to Wolfgangs. He likes you more 661 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:49.640 than like he likes me. He takes me to check 662 00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:51.319 fil A when we go to dinner. So enjoy your 663 00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.880 state deal. But please tell him hello and tell everybody 664 00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:55.759 high and have a good time. 665 00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.000 Okay, thanks buddy, see you soon. 666 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.640 The Great Neil Smith Utah Club. Yeah, they got dog 667 00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:04.240 walked last night. Like I was telling Porter, I was 668 00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:08.720 gonna watch that Carolina San Diego state game, and after 669 00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:10.640 Carolina ran away with him, I'm like, all right, let's 670 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.160 check out the hockey club. And I turned it over 671 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:17.400 in time to see Edmonton put three on Vamelica in 672 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.880 the first period, and then coach Torney pulled Themelka and 673 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:25.079 decided to try his hand at the starboard kid as 674 00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.359 Connor Ingram was still on the sidelines and UH all 675 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:31.359 due respect to UH to Staburn, it didn't go better 676 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:34.039 for him at all. Jackson Starborough allowed four goals after 677 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:38.240 the Melca allowed three, and it's just gonna be tough, 678 00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:40.319 you know. Ultimately, I would love to see it happened 679 00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:43.839 playoff hockey rules. If you've never seen Stanley Cup playoff hockey, 680 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:44.559 you should check it out. 681 00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:45.359 It's a lot of fun. 682 00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:51.960 Connor McDavid, what is the what's the equivalent of a 683 00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:56.119 Connor McDavid in another sport? Like if somebody doesn't know 684 00:33:56.680 --> 00:34:00.559 the game of basketball, they could turn on the Warriors 685 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:02.640 game and tell that Steph is just different based off 686 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:04.920 the way he makes shots. I was just watching that 687 00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.400 game last night, and I don't grind on hockey tape 688 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.400 every night, but every time McDavid got the puck with 689 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:13.320 a full head of steam, it's like that dude is different. 690 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.000 It's it's hard a number one, I'm to be clear, 691 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:20.480 not Neil Smith. I haven't won a Stanley Cup, so 692 00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:22.119 my expertise not yet. 693 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:22.239 Not. 694 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.760 Yes, you never know who the Smith Entertainment group might 695 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:28.519 hire as the hockey team keeps going on. 696 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:30.280 But no, are you throwing your name in the ring. 697 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:31.880 If Bill Armstrong moves on, you want to be the 698 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:32.559 GM why not? 699 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:33.199 Why not? 700 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.880 But the name you brought up with Steph Curry and 701 00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:41.840 while he is like a similar we talked about the 702 00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:46.000 term gravity in sports and he has that. It's it's 703 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:49.159 not as much on the scoring side as it is creating, 704 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:54.239 right you You look at Wayne Gretzky and I think 705 00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:56.719 if you take out like all of Wayne Gretzky's goals, 706 00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:59.199 he still is like second all time in scoring with 707 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.760 all the assists that he he creates. And Connor McDavid 708 00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.480 has more of that than he does, say Alexandrovetchkin, who 709 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.519 just puts shots in the back of the net over 710 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.880 and over and over and over again. So it's really 711 00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:14.079 interesting to watch because he he creates for his teammates 712 00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.000 as he is at you know, every player has a 713 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:18.920 little bit of it, but the way he does it, 714 00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:21.840 you're just seeing open shots for other guys, and that 715 00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:25.079 is something that I don't know how to compare that 716 00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:29.119 in the NBA ranks, like lebron Ish, like a guy 717 00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:31.880 that has the scoring title but also kind of is 718 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:35.679 more of a passer. That's that's you know, he's not 719 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.559 sixty nine to sixty. But that's kind of the name. 720 00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:40.760 I look at a magic Johnson Lebron, a guy that 721 00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:44.199 puts up a bunch of points and somehow has the 722 00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.400 gravity to bring in the players around him. Luka Doncic 723 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:49.559 if you're looking at kind of a new era, new 724 00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:50.400 new age guy. 725 00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:51.840 It was wildly impressive. 726 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.559 Now the hockey club has a uphill climb at this point, 727 00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:59.000 as I referenced, fourteen games left to try to make 728 00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.599 up a four point gap. That doesn't sound like a lot, 729 00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:05.519 but it is coming up on Thursday. So tomorrow Buffalo's 730 00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.559 in town. Three game homestand for the hockey club, it's Buffalo, 731 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:11.320 It's Tampa Bay and then Detroit. Then a three game 732 00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:14.840 road trip following a following that, it's a four game 733 00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:16.960 homestand then they're going to finish off with three on 734 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:19.719 the road at Dallas AD Nashville and at. 735 00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:20.599 The Saint Louis Blues. 736 00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:23.760 Neil Smith joins us today courtesy of our friends at 737 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:28.119 IFA Country Stores. Now the snow will belt at some point, 738 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.599 maybe over the next couple of days. We're high speedhead 739 00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:33.320 to seventy degree weather next week. So it's time for 740 00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:36.199 you to start thinking about your lawn care. IFA Country 741 00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:38.719 Stores has everything you need to care for your lawn, 742 00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.639 no matter its size or shape. 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All right, 750 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:05.039 we will catch a break coming up on the other side. 751 00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:09.000 We will preview a massive game tonight in Salt Lake 752 00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.800 at the Delta Center, the Washington Wizards in the house to. 753 00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:14.960 Take on the Utah Jazz. 754 00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:18.039 And then we'll talk some big picture NBA with Tim McMahon, 755 00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:21.079 Chris com Ronnie makes his weekly appearance later on, and 756 00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.000 then Ken Pomeroy an Hour in studio where a guy Ken, 757 00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:26.079 We're gonna help you fill out your brackets. 758 00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:29.599 Next on the Drive, Tim McMahon dropping dimes for your 759 00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:31.039 NBA daily assists. 760 00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:39.199 Van McMahon, Van McMahon batted old Land. 761 00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:47.000 Texas flood as it gets muddy and Main Van McMahon, 762 00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:48.440 Van McMahon. 763 00:37:49.039 --> 00:38:02.960 Then, man, gonna help you fill out your brackets. Today, 764 00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:06.679 Ken Pomeroy, the legend himself Kenpalm dot Com is live 765 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.440 in studio during the four o'clock hour. 766 00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.760 We're gonna go region by region. We'll preview some of 767 00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:12.840 the local stuff and. 768 00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.280 Get Ken's reaction on the hiring of Alex Jensen, which 769 00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:19.360 became official yesterday. Excuse me on Monday, I was there. 770 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.840 Should know Chris Comaraddi from the Athletic later on. But 771 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:25.440 there is a massive game tonight here in Salt Lake 772 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.360 City at the Delta Center as Washington rolls into town 773 00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:30.760 to take on the Utah Jazz. 774 00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:32.400 Our next guest covers the. 775 00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:35.360 Jazz and the NBA as a whole, and Tim McMahon, 776 00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:38.440 if Wizards Jazz can't get you to Salt Lake, I 777 00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:39.039 don't know what to do. 778 00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:43.840 Man. Yeah, well, I would say if things go the 779 00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:47.119 Jazz is way tonight and then again in the lottery, 780 00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:48.880 I'll probably make it a lot of trips to Sulti 781 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:49.840 City next season. 782 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.360 All right, there you go, there you go. So what 783 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.360 what are we expecting? Tonight? The Jazz released the injury report. 784 00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:59.199 Lowry is out with quote personal reasons, Walker is available, 785 00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.840 John Collins out. Neither of these teams obviously want to 786 00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.920 win this basketball game. They're both stuck on fifteen wins. 787 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.840 The Jazz have two more losses than Washington. But what 788 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:11.840 sort of game are we in for here in Salt Lake? 789 00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.519 You know, it's crazy. The Wizards actually haven't been playing 790 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:19.360 terrible basketball, no sin since the trade deadline. And they 791 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:21.719 got a couple of bets in there. They got Chris Middleton, 792 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:25.480 they got Marcus Smart. How about the Wizards sweeping the 793 00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.280 season series with the Denver Nuggets. It's incredible, But like 794 00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.599 they've made up some and they were in danger of 795 00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:38.760 like historically horrendous territory, and you know, there is kind 796 00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:41.840 of this thing of like do you want to have 797 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.599 lose and just seep into every pore of the culture 798 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:49.800 of the franchise and those habits, and so they've been 799 00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:52.599 playing better basketball, but tonight, you know, obviously this is 800 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:54.639 a this is a tanka to loser type of game. 801 00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:56.960 And I don't know that it's one that I would 802 00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:01.519 purchase tickets to see. Perhaps some you know, lead pass 803 00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:07.480 drive bys just for comedic, comedic reasons, you know, listen, 804 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:12.440 I enjoy the Walker Kessler really leaning into the player 805 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:14.880 development aspect there, and maybe he can get up ten 806 00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.199 or twelve threes in nighty, get eleven in the last 807 00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:20.400 two games after I think six all season before that, 808 00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:24.519 something like that. So I enjoyed. You know, Walker Kessler 809 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:25.199 stretch five. 810 00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:29.519 That's gotta be the Jazz trolling the NBA right after 811 00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.280 they find them for city and marketing. They're like, oh, okay, 812 00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:34.000 if you're gonna find us, we're just gonna let let 813 00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:35.440 our big guys shoot threes all game. 814 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.480 Well, I controlling the NBA, I don't. I don't know 815 00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:44.920 that that's that's aggressive. What I would say about it 816 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:49.480 in all seriousness is this Walker works on his threes 817 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:53.719 every single day. He would love to be a Brook 818 00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:57.800 Lopez type of stretch five, And at this point in 819 00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:01.599 the season, I would say there's no downside and letting 820 00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:04.880 him fire away. Maybe he stumbles into something and becomes 821 00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:08.239 comfortable and it's actually a tool in his tool belt 822 00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:13.199 at some point moving forward. Certainly he's likely to do 823 00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.559 something like go one of eleven from three point range 824 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:18.400 over two games that quite frankly, are in their best 825 00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:21.159 interest to lose. So there's not a downside there, but 826 00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:23.880 it is like, it's not like, you know, the guy's 827 00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:27.119 never walked out to the three point line and fired 828 00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:29.599 one up. He does it every single day. I mean, 829 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:32.360 he's trying to develop that, so you know, give him 830 00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:35.360 a shot. Hey, I remember when the Mavericks are tanking 831 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:38.199 trying to get Luca suddenly Solid Measure. I don't know 832 00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:41.840 if you remember the most, but but Solid Measure was 833 00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:45.039 firing up some threes. And the funniest thing is there 834 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:47.039 was a total tank up to lose a game late 835 00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:50.360 in that season in Memphis, and the Mavericks will won 836 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:52.960 it because Solid Measure he got hot from three point range. 837 00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:56.039 That's a good pull. I haven't heard that name in 838 00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:59.920 a while. And you know, like Walker has a decent struke. 839 00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.519 It's not like I can remember the Jazz used to 840 00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:07.079 every preseason there would be a video on social media 841 00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:09.400 of like go Bear hitting a corner three, and they'd 842 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:10.880 be like, hey, stay tuned. I'm like, don't do that. 843 00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:13.920 Like that's not like I like, don't do that with Rudy. 844 00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.360 But Walker actually has a decent stroke, you know what 845 00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:20.519 I mean. It doesn't look like it's aesthetically unpleasing. It's 846 00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:23.880 pretty fundamentally sound. Maybe someday he can develop it to 847 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.360 a point where occasionally, when it makes sense, he'll be 848 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:27.320 able to knock one down. 849 00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:32.679 Well, you know, unfortunately, the counterpoint to that would be 850 00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:36.360 he's not a good free throw shooter. That's typically guys 851 00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:39.480 who are able to stretch their range out. It's like, hey, 852 00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:42.559 they're good free throw shooters, and then you know that 853 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:46.960 that's an indication that the three point ball is a possibility. However, 854 00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:51.039 you know, I mentioned brook Lopez. Brook Lopez was a 855 00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:54.199 prototypical back to the basket score for the first half 856 00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.440 of his career. It wasn't until Kenny Atkinson got to 857 00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:01.679 Brooklyn pretty deep into Brooks time. There was his last 858 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:05.119 season in Brooklyn. I believe that he started marching his 859 00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.079 butt out to the three point line and fining away 860 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:10.320 and then they just leaned all the way into it. 861 00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:13.079 You know. A couple of stops later for him when 862 00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:16.239 he got to Milwaukee, and now he's like the epitome 863 00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:19.840 of a rim protecting stretch five, which I mean, that's 864 00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:23.760 absolutely a new archetype of big man in the NBA. 865 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:25.840 And if you've got a guy who can protect the 866 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:28.000 rim and then you have to guard him on the 867 00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.800 three point line, Like, that's a big time weapon. I don't. 868 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:36.639 I don't think it's necessarily likely that Casper becomes that, 869 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.440 But why not, like, at least at this point of 870 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:42.360 the season, when you know you're trying to stack a 871 00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.199 lot of house as high as possible, why not lean 872 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:46.039 all the way into it? 873 00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:47.679 For sure? 874 00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:50.559 I mean, at this point, you know, try whatever you 875 00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:52.519 need to try, because we all know what time it is. 876 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.719 But since I referenced the Jazz being fined tim for 877 00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:59.519 city marketing, can you help us understand this? I mean, ultimately, 878 00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:03.360 it's it feels like teams sit players every single night 879 00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:05.280 and star players every single night. 880 00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:07.800 Like why the Jazz? Why would Larry what happened here? 881 00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:13.719 Because it was an extraordinarily aggressive tanking measure and there, 882 00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:17.119 if we're being real honest, this is three straight years 883 00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:21.119 this time that the Jazz were extraordinarily aggressive with tanking measures. 884 00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.440 I mean, that's the simplest reason. And then what was 885 00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:26.119 it like nine straight missed games? 886 00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:26.800 Correct? Yeah? 887 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.599 So I mean so look, I mean, let's just be real. 888 00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:35.599 It was pretty flavorant violation of the player participation policy, 889 00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:37.639 and so they hit them with one hundred thousand dollars fine, 890 00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:41.800 and look, if you end up with Cooper Flag, you'd 891 00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:45.559 pay ten million dollars in fines to get there. So 892 00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:52.239 I mean, it's it's not pretty, it's not fun, but 893 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.119 it is in the best interest of the Jazz to 894 00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.719 be tanking aggressively, and the league called them out on 895 00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:01.599 it because what they were doing marketing it was pretty flagrant. 896 00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:05.719 Yeah, and there's no debate as far as how, you know, 897 00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:07.719 how they were handling it. It just feels like it 898 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.679 happens across the landscape of the league. So I don't know, 899 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:12.639 I thought it was odd that they on the Jazz. 900 00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:17.840 Well, but there's been an investigation in Philly. They're investigating. 901 00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:21.559 I mean, they investigated the player participation policy violations for 902 00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:24.280 the Oklahoma City Thunder, the number one seed in the 903 00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:27.519 Western Conference for a game that they won by double 904 00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:31.280 figures because Portland despite sitting there like top six players. 905 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.880 So it's not only the Jazz. But again, I really 906 00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.679 like the real honest answer is the Jazz have been 907 00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:43.679 pretty aggressive tankers, at least late season in each of 908 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:46.039 the last three years. I mean, I don't know if 909 00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:50.079 I've told you this before, but when the Mavericks tanked 910 00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:51.920 the last couple of games a couple of years ago 911 00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:54.440 when they had that top ten protective pick and post 912 00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:57.719 Kyrie trade, like, things did not go well and they 913 00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:00.559 couldn't win, and they're at a point where, hey, they 914 00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:03.480 had a small chance of being a playing team. But 915 00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:05.880 the most likely scenario that kept their foot on the 916 00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:08.719 gas was they land the eleventh pick, which would have 917 00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:10.920 gone in New York. So they tanked. You know, I 918 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:12.800 called the league office and I'm talking to make the 919 00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.400 league office and I'm like, hey, like, are you guys 920 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.519 gonna make any kind of comments? They're going to be 921 00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:21.400 kind of punishment. And this person said, have you called 922 00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.360 me about the Jazz And my response was, has Ryan 923 00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:28.280 Smith been fined six hundred thousand recently for publicly discussing 924 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.880 tanking measures? Has that happened in the last few years? 925 00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:36.400 And so you know the Mavericks will repeat violators of 926 00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:40.159 Flagan tanking and you know had actually been fined before 927 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:42.400 and this is the first time. Then look, one hundred 928 00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:44.440 grand is a slap on the wrist. Let's just be real. 929 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:46.920 But they got slapped on the wrist. And because they've 930 00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:49.760 been very aggressive over multiple years now. 931 00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:54.039 So you referenced something with Washington, the concern of allowing, 932 00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:58.239 you know, losing to permeate throughout the culture of your organization. 933 00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:01.199 And with Washington, we're a little late for that conversation. 934 00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:04.239 I mean, my goodness, that organization. Whenever Jazz fans getting 935 00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:06.199 their feelings, I'm like, dude, you look around the league 936 00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:10.320 for a little bit, namely Washington. But I always believe 937 00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:13.360 Tim when there's a team that has leaned into simply 938 00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:18.920 losing consistently. While I understand and agree with oftentimes the approach, 939 00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:21.360 there has to be a little bit of a danger 940 00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.800 for the Kyle Philipowskis and the Isaiah Colliers and the 941 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:26.360 Cayante Georges. 942 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:28.000 Of the world to get accustomed to this. 943 00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:31.599 Now, what I will say is the past month, month 944 00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:33.440 and a half, there have been several games where the 945 00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:36.199 Jazz have been close at the end against good teams, 946 00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:39.440 which I think is valuable experience. But is there a 947 00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:42.440 danger to leaning into this when you are trying to 948 00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.039 develop young players and teaching them how to be professionals. 949 00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:48.800 Well, there absolutely is. And that's why I think that 950 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:55.320 this is an extraordinarily tough task for will Hardy because ultimately, 951 00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:00.400 like he's responsible for establishing the standards and the you 952 00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:04.760 know what's unacceptable and you know, really instilled in the 953 00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:09.519 kind of culture that he wants. And look, let's like 954 00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:13.119 that's why you know, there have been instances, for example, 955 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:17.239 where he's publicly called out the complete lack of effort 956 00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:22.639 defensively and young players have lost minutes because you know, 957 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:26.960 they haven't had the level of acceptable effort defensively. So 958 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:31.960 it's a it's a it's a really no pun intended 959 00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:35.280 to kind of a no win situation, uh for a coach. 960 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:41.519 But the challenge is you understand the organizational path right, 961 00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:44.760 and you've got to get high in talent to ever 962 00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.199 have any chance of getting that thing turned around. And 963 00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:50.639 you get what the easiest way to get there is. 964 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.639 But you just can't let bad losing habits seet in 965 00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.920 and and you know, honestly, that was a huge issue 966 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:03.880 in Houston during their three years of blatant tanking after 967 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:08.400 the James Harden trade. You know, Emiodoko was able to 968 00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:12.559 come in and fix those problems really quickly. You know, 969 00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.679 I do think that Will Hardy's got a very bright 970 00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:19.599 future as a head coach. I do think that he 971 00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:24.800 has a level of authority, uh, and and respect in 972 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:27.039 that locker rooman And you know the other thing is like, hey, 973 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.119 if these guys don't live up to those standards, they 974 00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:32.960 won't be there very long. And so if they if 975 00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:35.960 they don't respect what he's trying to, you know, the 976 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:39.119 standards he's trying to enforce, then you know they'll probably 977 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:41.079 be looking for a job somewhere else. 978 00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.800 Sarah Todd des red News Front of the Show wrote 979 00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:48.079 a piece last week that has received a lot of traction, 980 00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:49.840 and we talked about it with her on the show, 981 00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:54.360 and essentially it felt like she was talking to somebody 982 00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:57.000 at the organization, and I think she probably was. That 983 00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:00.880 has now kind of coined the term of the last 984 00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:03.679 three years were a tear down and the rebuild starts now, 985 00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:07.679 all right, Like I, you know, you and I have 986 00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:08.199 talked to that. 987 00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:10.559 I've got a pretty good idea who she takes to do. 988 00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:13.719 But go on fair enough, fair enough, And I guess 989 00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:16.599 that's a spin you can put on the situation three 990 00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:18.840 years later when you didn't handle it the right way 991 00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:21.440 from the start, is my opinion on that. But if 992 00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:24.960 the rebuild starts now, Tim, does it feel like next 993 00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:26.960 year is going to feel a lot. 994 00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:32.519 Like this year, you know what, I think that depends 995 00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:35.880 on a lot of factors. And frankly, one of those 996 00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:38.920 factors is do they win the lottery? And if so, 997 00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:42.559 the second factor would be how ready is Cooper Flag 998 00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:44.000 to make an immediate impact? 999 00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:44.840 You know? 1000 00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:51.800 Now, look, are there is there going to be like 1001 00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:54.840 some massive jump and wins next year? Are they going 1002 00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:59.000 to you know, be a sixth seed in the Western Conference? 1003 00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:04.400 I mean unlikely? But again, if if if Cooper Flag 1004 00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.519 is as good immediately as people think he might be, 1005 00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:12.559 who knows, yeah, And then like say they win the lottery, 1006 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.119 how do they approach the rest of the summer? You know, 1007 00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:18.920 are they are they aggressive to kind of get veterans 1008 00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:23.320 in there, to to put a you know, realistic competitive 1009 00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:27.679 team on the court. Stranger things have happened. The Detroit 1010 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:31.119 Business won fourteen games last year. They're in sixth place 1011 00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:33.320 in the Eastern Conference right now. So I'm not saying 1012 00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.880 it's impossible. I am saying, one, the West is a 1013 00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:39.039 lot tougher than the East, and and and two you know, 1014 00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:42.800 for the for that reason and others, it's it's pretty unlikely. 1015 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:47.239 You know, typically rebuilds our multiple year processes. 1016 00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:53.800 So interesting though, because according to what Sarah Road, let's 1017 00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:57.039 operate off the fun hypothetical that Lady Luck shines on 1018 00:51:57.199 --> 00:51:58.679 us here in Salt Lake in a way that it 1019 00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.000 hasn't so far in the jazz. 1020 00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:00.920 It's wild. 1021 00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:02.800 The Jazz have only been a lottery nine times, but 1022 00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:05.320 they've had nine chances. They've never moved up outside of 1023 00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:07.280 a trade that they've made. That's how they got d Will. 1024 00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:11.960 But if it actually goes down and Cooper Flag is 1025 00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:15.360 a jazz man, Sarah kind of pontificated on the possibility 1026 00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:18.280 of actually that being the start of the timeline for 1027 00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:20.920 what they're trying to build, meaning, do you move on 1028 00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:23.599 from Lowry now that you're gonna be able to once 1029 00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:26.840 this offseason comes down? Do you even considering move on 1030 00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:31.480 from Walker Kessler, which pontificated about in her piece for 1031 00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:34.239 the d News, like if they get the prize of 1032 00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:38.000 Cooper Flag. The tone and tenor of the piece was, Okay, 1033 00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:40.760 now we start our rebuild, and maybe we move on 1034 00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:44.400 from everyone because tim if we're honest outside of Lowry 1035 00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:45.880 and Walker, I don't know. 1036 00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:49.360 I just don't. I think there are moments good, go ahead, good. 1037 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:52.320 I would say it's fair to say you don't know. 1038 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:56.960 I think it's premature to say, you know, none of 1039 00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:59.920 these guys can be contributors to a to a competitive team. 1040 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.679 Oh sure, I wasn't saying that now, But look like 1041 00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:05.719 the Lowry thing, Hey, you've got to consider all options. 1042 00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.679 And if you're building around here, I is going to 1043 00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:13.360 be eighteen next season, so like probably unlikely that he's 1044 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:18.159 going to be able to drive winning right away. And like, 1045 00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:22.239 you know, I think you have to be open mind 1046 00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:24.800 to do all possibilities. And you have to just like 1047 00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:27.320 they did last summer with Lowry, you have to be 1048 00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:29.920 willing to listen to conversations. You know, you have to be, 1049 00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:34.559 you know, even willing to begin conversations, to initiate conversations. 1050 00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:40.559 He's not untouchable. You can't. You know, you can't win fifteen, sixteen, 1051 00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:46.159 seventeen games and consider somebody untouchable. Now, having said that, 1052 00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:52.079 I would be pretty hesitant to move Walker Kessler because 1053 00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:56.960 he's twenty three years old. He's going to be you know, 1054 00:53:57.159 --> 00:53:59.360 he's the type of guy who I think can be 1055 00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:03.960 a high, high, high quality role player on a good team. 1056 00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.599 And I think he's got at least a decade long 1057 00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:11.159 runway in front of him, And again we're basing this 1058 00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:15.559 on like they win the lottery. It's Cooper Flagg, who's 1059 00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:21.519 supposed to be just a potential, like tremendous impact defensive player, 1060 00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:26.280 like a like a andre Kirolinko type of defender. You know, 1061 00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:29.599 if you have that type of defender with one of 1062 00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:31.840 the two or three best rim protectors in the league, 1063 00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:35.880 that's this, you know, the foundation of potentially an elite 1064 00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:40.280 or an elite defense. For a long time, the asking 1065 00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:44.199 price was very high for Walker Kesterper, you know, even 1066 00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:46.119 going back to last summer when people thought the Jazz 1067 00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:47.679 might be down on him. Me, maybe he could be 1068 00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:50.119 at for a discount. And I don't see any reason 1069 00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:51.480 that would change were. 1070 00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:54.519 They ever close moving on from Walker, either last offseason 1071 00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:56.039 or prior to the trade deadline this year. 1072 00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:59.519 That to my knowledge, I've not heard. You know, I 1073 00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:02.199 know there's been a lot of teams that have inquired 1074 00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:05.880 about him. I to my knowledge, there's never been anything 1075 00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:07.639 that was a serious consideration. 1076 00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:11.079 So let me revisit what I said. And I didn't 1077 00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:12.840 mean to imply that none of these guys are ever 1078 00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:15.159 going to turn out. I just very much have questions 1079 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:17.679 about all of them. But if I removed Lowry and 1080 00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:21.360 if I removed Walker from the equation, who do you think, 1081 00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:24.000 based off of what you've seen, has a chance to 1082 00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:26.000 be here when they are good again. 1083 00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.480 Well, unfortunately, we barely have seen Taylor Hendris, and you know, 1084 00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.159 we'll see if he's even ready for training camp next year. 1085 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.920 I know they're very encouraged by the progress that he 1086 00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:41.400 made last summer after a tough rookie season for a 1087 00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:44.119 kid who was a teenager at the time. You know, 1088 00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:49.480 Isaiah Kaier has definitely had stretches of really endearing himself 1089 00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:54.400 to Will Hardy this season. You know, Kyante George is 1090 00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:57.320 in some ways it's kind of like Walker where the 1091 00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:00.920 second season has been disappointing. I think he's more of 1092 00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:05.000 a you know, of a Jordan Clarkson than he is 1093 00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:06.679 a Darren Williams. You know, I don't think he's ever 1094 00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:08.280 going to be a league or for somebody, can he 1095 00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:12.159 be a bench bucket getner. I could see that, And 1096 00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.320 then honestly, this year's rookiees like, let's let's see, let's 1097 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:17.559 see summer league. Let's see how they handle the summer. 1098 00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:21.880 I mentioned Collier, but I'm talking about like Cody Williams, Philipowski. 1099 00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:24.320 Philipowski shown a little something. I don't you know. I 1100 00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:29.480 think he's a bench player, uh if he's able to 1101 00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:32.480 carve out a long career. And then Cody Williams is like, 1102 00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:36.119 let's be honest, he's more of an idea than a 1103 00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:39.400 than a player at this point. This summer is gonna 1104 00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:40.039 be huge for him. 1105 00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:43.920 All Right, one more jazz thing then we'll move on 1106 00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:44.440 from this. 1107 00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:49.280 And like you, I don't do the you know, draft 1108 00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:52.400 grind on tape every day thing the way that people 1109 00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:54.880 do it that have it as a full time gig, 1110 00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:57.679 like your guy Jonathan Givodi or others that cover the draft. 1111 00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:00.920 But it does feel like I mean, even when wem 1112 00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:04.000 Benyama was there to be had, you had hipsters and 1113 00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:06.320 NBA media say things like well I kind of like Scoot, 1114 00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:09.199 You're like, all right, dude, whatever. But it it feels 1115 00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.239 like we've moved into a space where at the start 1116 00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:15.199 of the season you would hear Dylan Harper, you would 1117 00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:18.119 hear Ace Bailey, you'd hear vg Edge Comb. And after 1118 00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:20.760 what Cooper's done, is it safe to say that, like 1119 00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.719 wen Banyama, this is Cooper on his own level, then 1120 00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:26.639 everybody else after him based on your understanding. 1121 00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:29.920 That's my understanding. And you know, I've talked a little 1122 00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:35.159 bit to scouts and executives, and I if Cooper flags 1123 00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:37.440 not the number one pick, people throughout the league can 1124 00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:41.000 be absolutely shocked and dumbfounded. So you know, I would 1125 00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:44.280 say that would put him very much on his own level. 1126 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:48.000 You brought up the Detroit Pistons. Do you still stay 1127 00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:50.559 in contact with Dennis? With Dennis lindsay and I wonder 1128 00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:53.119 what sort of role he's played in kind of this resurgence. 1129 00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:55.360 Yeah, you know what, I'll be honest with you, I 1130 00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:59.000 have not been in touch with Dennis this season. I 1131 00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:01.320 have not. I don't get East a lot, and I 1132 00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:05.119 haven't run into him this season. But I would say 1133 00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.239 that he had his fingerprints all over a very productive 1134 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:11.199 off season for the Mavericks a couple of summers ago, 1135 00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:15.239 and you know, the Pistons made it a priority to 1136 00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:19.800 hire him With a rookie general manager in Trajan Langdon, 1137 00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:24.159 they obviously also had a very productive off season, and 1138 00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:26.199 so look, you know, you start to credit with a 1139 00:58:26.199 --> 00:58:30.840 guy who's in charge and making the decisions in Trajan Langdon. 1140 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:33.800 But Dinnis Lindsey's gotten off the good track record, and 1141 00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:37.519 this is too straight, too straight summers that he's been 1142 00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.079 part of a front office that's that's made some moves 1143 00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:44.079 that really paid immediate dividends, and you know, you got 1144 00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:46.320 to think he had something to do with it all. 1145 00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:47.320 Right before I set you loose. 1146 00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:51.760 The big news story regarding the local sports scene is 1147 00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:54.480 that it is official as of Monday afternoon, that Alex 1148 00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:58.559 Jensen is the seventeenth head coach in Utah men's basketball history. 1149 00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:00.199 The Jazz played the Tea Wolves a few I had 1150 00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.280 to go Gobert post game was asked about the higher 1151 00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:05.960 and Rudy gave a great answer. It's up online. It's 1152 00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:09.199 up on the Utah page, the Jazz page. Will Hardy 1153 00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:11.679 was asked about Alex. I mean, everybody said everything that 1154 00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:13.719 you would expect. And I know that you know Alex, 1155 00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:16.039 and this is a bit redundant because I did ask 1156 00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:18.519 you about it last week, but now that it is official, 1157 00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:21.360 as somebody who covers both the Jazz and the MAVs, 1158 00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:24.920 tell youth fans what they should know from your experience 1159 00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:25.880 about their new head coach. 1160 00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:29.360 Yeah, I didn't actually see Rudy's comments. I would be 1161 00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:33.960 interested to see those because look, I've said it before, 1162 00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:38.039 like other than Rudy Gobert, nobody deserves more credit for 1163 00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:43.239 that raw, gangleing, goofy young French guy developing into a 1164 00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:48.079 future Hall of Famer than Alex Jensen. And you know, 1165 00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:51.480 Alex I think has a great feel for player development. 1166 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:55.239 He has been a very successful head coach at the 1167 00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:59.920 G League level. I think that his style of their 1168 01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:06.239 you know, direct communication is I think it's a great approach. 1169 01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:07.519 You know. 1170 01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:10.000 I think that the recruiting stuff, like you know, his 1171 01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:12.480 hires as assistant coaches are going to be very important 1172 01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:16.639 because he's not necessarily a naturally gregarious type of guy. 1173 01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:20.840 I also think that the alumni, you know, the alumni 1174 01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:22.920 donations to the Nile Fund are going to be even 1175 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:26.480 more important than that. If Alex Jensen is a heck 1176 01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:30.840 of a coach, if he has the support, if necessary 1177 01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:34.119 to win in the in college basketball, I think he's 1178 01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:34.719 going to do so. 1179 01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:37.079 Is the all right? 1180 01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:40.400 March twenty fifth, dam the book is on its way 1181 01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:43.599 here the next little bit and so two questions where 1182 01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:44.119 can people go? 1183 01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:44.400 Get it? 1184 01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:47.599 And number two is based off of this next iteration 1185 01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:51.039 of Luca's career. Are you considering additions to this book. 1186 01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:53.440 I mean, there's a lot of Luca Tonsci's basketball left 1187 01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:54.079 in front of us. 1188 01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:58.000 Now listen, the last edition of this book, there's actually 1189 01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:01.840 eight thousand copies were printed befo or the trade, every 1190 01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:04.760 other copy, the e book, the audiobook, all those they've 1191 01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:07.159 got the last chapter that I wrote in the two 1192 01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.280 weeks after the trade, and it's it's kind of a 1193 01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:13.239 perfect and into to the story. It's his entire run, 1194 01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:16.239 all the drama, all of this function, all the chaos, 1195 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:21.199 all the success. Uh, and the shocking plot twist at 1196 01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:25.360 the end of his of his tenure with the Dallas Mavericks. Uh. 1197 01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:27.519 Will it be another Luca book? Whether there be a 1198 01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:30.320 Luca Lakers book, that's a great question to ask when 1199 01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:35.119 you have Dave mcmanhiman on. Okay, I've handed old mac 1200 01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:39.840 Tima baton, but no, I appreciate you mentioned that. As 1201 01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:41.800 far as where to get it, you know, everywhere you 1202 01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:44.519 get books. You can you know, Amazon right now, you 1203 01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:46.440 can get the you know, hey, if you want to 1204 01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:48.480 go for the Triple Crown, you can get the book, 1205 01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:50.119 you can get the audiobook, and you can get the 1206 01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:50.760 hard copy. 1207 01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:51.559 Uh. 1208 01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:54.400 You know, old school, pretty cover and all that. So 1209 01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:57.599 you know some people in Dallas are bullcott in the book. 1210 01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:01.559 It's actually pretty humorous. There's a there's a conspiracy theory 1211 01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:04.880 that I was colluding with Nico Harrison over the last 1212 01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:07.159 few years on Lukadancis out of Dallas. 1213 01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:08.920 Oh my gosh. 1214 01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:13.119 All right, well, yeah, never underestimate the creativity of the 1215 01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:14.480 angry Internet, Bob. 1216 01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:16.559 Well said, Well said, thank you, my friend. I have 1217 01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:17.599 a good week with chat soon. 1218 01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:19.559 Okay, all I appreciate your brother. 1219 01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:20.519 Hright, the great Tim McMahon. 1220 01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:23.719 Yeah, his book comes out officially on March the twenty fifth, 1221 01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:28.280 called The Wonder Boy. It's about Lukadocic. Tim stops Spot 1222 01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:30.599 today courtesy of our good friends at Bert Brothers. With 1223 01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:34.239 over thirty years of experience and nearly thirty locations, Burt 1224 01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:39.159 Brothers ase's certified technicians bring expertise and professionalism to every 1225 01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:43.199 interaction industry leading warranties and low priced tire guarantees. 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Utah not involved, 1244 01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:43.519 but they will be playing postseason basketball if they have 1245 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:47.159 accepted an invite to the inaugural College Basketball Crown in 1246 01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:50.519 Las Vegas. Utah tips off against Butler in just under 1247 01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:54.559 two weeks. On the women's side, Utah is going dancing. 1248 01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:58.679 Eight seed Utah takes on nine seed Indiana on Friday 1249 01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:01.760 at eleven thirty. Each of Gavin Peterson and the Youth's 1250 01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:04.960 tournament games will be live right here on ESPN seven 1251 01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:09.519 hundred and ninety two point one FM. Utah Jazz are 1252 01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:12.719 back in action at the Delta Center tonight seven pm 1253 01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:16.079 tip off against the fifteen and fifty two Wizards. The 1254 01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:19.639 Jazz the only team in the association behind Washington. 1255 01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:21.039 As NBA Draft. 1256 01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:24.880 Lottery watch begins in earnest and the Utah Hockey Club 1257 01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:27.280 allowed seven goals in a loss last night to the 1258 01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:31.840 Oilers at thirty twenty seven and eleven. UHC drops to 1259 01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:35.599 four points out of the Western Conference Wildcard. Now back 1260 01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:38.639 to the Delta Center for a three game homestand beginning 1261 01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:42.599 tomorrow at seven against Buffalo, fourteen games remain on their 1262 01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:46.280 NHL slate. This Hour of the Drive is brought to 1263 01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:49.639 you by IFA Country Stores. They have everything you need 1264 01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:52.519 to care for your lawn, no matter its size or shape. 1265 01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:56.519 Four plus Lawn Care program can promote healthy green grass 1266 01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:59.880 for you this summer. Consult ifased team of experts online 1267 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.760 at IFA dot co op or stop by one at 1268 01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:07.000 eighteen Utah stores. Today if A Country Stores helping to 1269 01:05:07.079 --> 01:05:11.000 grow the Things you love with your Sports Center update, 1270 01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:15.360 I importer Larsen on Utah's number one sports Talk. It's 1271 01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:19.400 ESPN seven hundred ninety two point one FM live on YouTube, 1272 01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:22.159 man at ESPN seven hundred sports dot com. 1273 01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:33.800 It sounds like a ck request, is it? 1274 01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:34.440 It is? 1275 01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:40.079 Yes, we got Lake Street Dive all right, Christopher Camarade. 1276 01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:44.440 Wednesday afternoon. It's sunny and you know, kind of nice. 1277 01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:46.199 Why aren't you sitting across from me today? 1278 01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:50.800 I have a sick kid home with me who is 1279 01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:56.440 getting to digest all of the cartoons and he knows 1280 01:05:56.599 --> 01:05:58.639 that he can milk it for as long as he can. 1281 01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:03.559 So that's where we find ourselves in this chapter of parenthood. 1282 01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:06.639 Godspeed. What's the deal with the track today? I know 1283 01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:07.320 nothing about it? 1284 01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:11.559 Well, I guess in honor of the happy gilmour Io 1285 01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:14.840 trailer going to My Happy Place. And my happy place 1286 01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.760 is jam band music in the Summertime, which is about 1287 01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:21.280 as opposite as it can get from right now. 1288 01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:25.800 Jam band music in the Yeah, jam band music in 1289 01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:28.360 the summertime. I'm with you on that seat, with you on. 1290 01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:30.400 That I know you are. I know you are, and 1291 01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:32.280 I think if you got it, Lake Street Dive saw 1292 01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:36.880 him at one of the Twilights, one of the years 1293 01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:40.199 fun jam band from Boston. I think you would dig them, man, 1294 01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:42.440 I mean, I know, I know that you can get 1295 01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:44.719 a little bit, you can get down with the jam bands. 1296 01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:48.199 I know that if you can let the guitarist riff 1297 01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.599 for a while, maybe let the trumpets go, you can 1298 01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:52.199 get into it. 1299 01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:57.400 Oh you'll find me shoes off, gummy jam band summer 1300 01:06:57.440 --> 01:06:59.320 at some point. You'll you'll find me at some point 1301 01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:01.400 this summer withes and a gummy and joined it. 1302 01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:02.000 There's no doubt. 1303 01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:03.360 One with the earth. 1304 01:07:03.719 --> 01:07:06.519 Yes, yes, well said Chris Well. Well said c K. 1305 01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:09.360 Lake Street Dive. Okay, I'll check it out. What what 1306 01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:13.480 are the kids into? When Connor was Leo's age, it 1307 01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:18.360 was Blues Clues, it was Dora, it was that dumb Barney, 1308 01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:22.960 that freaking purple dinosaur. Oh my gosh, what like None 1309 01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:26.559 of the cartoons that Connor liked were digestible for adults. 1310 01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:28.079 What's Leo into these days? 1311 01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:30.840 There's a show called Paw Patrol. 1312 01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:33.000 I've heard of Patrol. 1313 01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:35.079 Yes, And as soon as I said that, he looked 1314 01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:39.039 over at me and smiled. There's this show on PBS 1315 01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:43.280 called Wildcrats, which is cool because it's like a human 1316 01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:47.760 to cartoon show where these two guys are supposedly like 1317 01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:53.000 adventure anthropologists Indiana Jones types, and they go into the 1318 01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:56.719 world of animals in a cartoon version. So he likes 1319 01:07:56.800 --> 01:07:57.320 that as well. 1320 01:07:57.480 --> 01:07:58.840 But it is. 1321 01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:03.000 Reprehensible to say the least. I spend a lot of 1322 01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:05.000 time with my EarPods and let's just say that. 1323 01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:08.400 Yeah, they if somebody could create a cartoon, the kids 1324 01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:11.800 love that. Adults kind of latched on SpongeBob doesn't count. Like, 1325 01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:14.760 if you could create a cartoon, the kids are glued 1326 01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:16.760 to that. Adults don't want to rip their hair out. 1327 01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:18.319 I think that's a million dollar idea. 1328 01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:23.640 There's this show called Bluey out of Australia and it's 1329 01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:29.039 about an Australian shepherd and its family. And the episodes 1330 01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:31.159 are very short and it is tender and it is 1331 01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:35.119 heartwarming and it is one that actually is decent, and 1332 01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:37.560 it is the one show that my son cannot stand. 1333 01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:39.359 So the irony and that is very thick. 1334 01:08:39.479 --> 01:08:41.720 Yeah, and I'm out of the market for having children. 1335 01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:44.520 Mine's grown, so I'll never experience it. Did you ever 1336 01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:47.119 have to watch Dora the Explorer? For any reason at all. 1337 01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:49.479 I did not, but I remember hearing about it. 1338 01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:49.880 Dude. 1339 01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:53.039 It just like I can sing the Map song still 1340 01:08:53.119 --> 01:08:54.720 to this day, and it used to bother me so 1341 01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:58.239 so badly. But let's move on from that into more nonsense. 1342 01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:01.800 So Porter and I were talking earlier. NCAA tournament time 1343 01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:03.920 means we have to get familiar with True TV, and 1344 01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:08.239 True TV is airing reruns of Eastbounding Down after basketball? 1345 01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:11.159 Did you consume Eastbounding Down? 1346 01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:17.439 Maybe my favorite comedy show of all time? Oh wow, okay, yeah, yeah, 1347 01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:22.039 I mean so much so that back when streaming wasn't 1348 01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:25.319 really a thing and you had to buy episodes on 1349 01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:27.560 Apple back in the day. Do you remember this? 1350 01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:29.000 Of course, yes, of course. 1351 01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:33.000 I have them all on my phone still all these 1352 01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:37.279 years later, and travel days, like when you're on one 1353 01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:39.399 of the Delta flights that doesn't happen to have the 1354 01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:43.000 Wi Fi connector doesn't have the screens. I pull it up, man, 1355 01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:44.760 and I just sit in that. I sit in my 1356 01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:47.239 window see and I just laugh out loud, and I 1357 01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:50.760 probably look like a weirdo. But it is a show 1358 01:09:50.880 --> 01:09:55.520 that takes me to a place that just makes me happy. 1359 01:09:55.800 --> 01:09:59.680 It's brilliant and offensive and no way could be done today, 1360 01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:04.000 but man it is. It's so ironic you bring that up. 1361 01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:06.119 My buddy and I were driving home from our indoor 1362 01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:08.760 game on Monday. We were talking about Eastbound and how 1363 01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:11.520 much we loved it, and yeah, it's a great show, 1364 01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:14.760 probably my favorite comedy series of all time. 1365 01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:19.239 The Adam Scott cameo is the agent kills me every 1366 01:10:19.439 --> 01:10:24.199 single time. But Danny McBride, for me is a benefit 1367 01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:26.640 of the Dowd creator. Like, if I hear that Danny 1368 01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:29.279 McBride has done something, he's got my attention. 1369 01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:32.520 I mean, I'm with you without a doubt. 1370 01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:33.000 I think. 1371 01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:38.520 Yeah. That show also had like insane cameos beyond Adam Scott, 1372 01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:44.760 like Craig Robinson as the one eyed like villain, the antagonist, 1373 01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:50.640 the guy who Kenny took out his eye, Will Ferrell 1374 01:10:51.479 --> 01:10:56.399 Elite as the as the car salesman, Ashley Schaeffer Plums 1375 01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:01.960 mcconnag was in it. I'm trying to think who else. 1376 01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:03.840 Marilyn Manson had a cameo in it. 1377 01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:08.560 Su Dakis as his best friend Shane, who did bodysurfing 1378 01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:15.079 It's in Myrtle Beach, and Ike Baron holds like it's 1379 01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:21.159 it's it is so bad and it is so I mean, 1380 01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:25.279 like if if I know, I know, there is the 1381 01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:28.560 twenty percent of the Drive Monday to Friday two to six. 1382 01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:31.560 It gets too woke. I don't think this for for 1383 01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:34.239 your listeners. This is where we're a little anti woke 1384 01:11:34.279 --> 01:11:36.720 on me spounding down. But it's a great show. It's funny. 1385 01:11:37.159 --> 01:11:40.640 Danny McBride has carte blanche Vice Principles was amazing. I 1386 01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:42.800 don't know if you saw that. It was only two seasons, 1387 01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:47.239 but kind of. Goggins is like coming out party from 1388 01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:49.640 like a comedic point of view, and laid the groundwork 1389 01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:54.119 for maybe my favorite comedy character of all time. Uncle 1390 01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:59.000 Baby Billy and Righteous Gemstones like yes to your point, 1391 01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:02.159 got their bench league, Danny McBride can do no wrong. 1392 01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:06.520 Is Walton Goggins properly rated? It feels like he is 1393 01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:08.479 having a moment because are you watching White Lotus? He's 1394 01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:09.439 killing in White Lotus? 1395 01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:12.560 He is, and he was really good in Fallout, which 1396 01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:16.640 is a adaptation of a video game, popular video game 1397 01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:20.720 like ten years ago. But yes he is. I think 1398 01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:25.000 he's having his moment. Excuse me having his moment justified 1399 01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:26.800 I don't know if he saw Justified. He was great 1400 01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:32.760 and Justified so but baby Billy Man so good, so good. 1401 01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:36.079 The song when he's singing with like the clam on 1402 01:12:36.199 --> 01:12:39.640 his back, hallelujah. Would a payday at this fake Jesus resort? 1403 01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:42.640 I mean, I'm just yeah, we could go on for hours. 1404 01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:45.560 If you're having a bad day, just google Will Ferrell, 1405 01:12:45.640 --> 01:12:49.960 Craig Robinson, Danny McBride. He's founding down out takes. That's 1406 01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:51.560 one of the funniest things I've ever seen in. 1407 01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:54.520 My entire life. I'm not kidding. Let the boy watch, 1408 01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:56.520 Let the boy watch. 1409 01:12:57.239 --> 01:12:59.399 All right, Well, last week we did fifteen minutes on 1410 01:12:59.439 --> 01:13:02.239 Phillips Hoffman. So yeah, you never know where we're going 1411 01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:05.840 to go. But we will move on now and talk 1412 01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:09.520 a little sports. So it is official, Christopher that Alex 1413 01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:12.800 Jensen has been hired as the seventeenth head coach and 1414 01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:16.680 Utah men's basketball history. The press conference was on Monday night. 1415 01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:19.319 Did the show at the John John M. Huntsman Center 1416 01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:24.119 on Monday afternoon. Actually, let me start here. It's going 1417 01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:26.399 to get a facelift. The Huntsman Center is and it 1418 01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:30.000 could be a massive construction project. Several boxes have to 1419 01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:33.680 be checked before we're there, and I am one certainly 1420 01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:36.680 as I age that I'm prone to nostalgia and memories, 1421 01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:39.720 and walking into the Huntsman Center on Monday certainly reminded 1422 01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:42.439 me of a lot of fond days when Alex was 1423 01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:44.479 playing and I was a student at at Utah and 1424 01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:46.039 the Huntsman Center has a lot of history. 1425 01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:49.399 But I think this is probably the right move. Yeah, 1426 01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:51.279 I mean it feels like it does need a little love. 1427 01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:53.880 Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, if you look at 1428 01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:56.760 that campus, even from the time I went to school, 1429 01:13:57.079 --> 01:14:03.520 which is sixteen years ago, like it is night and day, 1430 01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:08.159 just from the like the academic facilities, like the buildings. 1431 01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:09.720 That were up there when I was there. 1432 01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:13.119 Was like, if that earthquake hits that's supposed to hit, 1433 01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:16.279 we are all done. Like we're in a building that 1434 01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:21.479 is like mad Men era built. So the fact that 1435 01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:25.800 they're going to give a facelift or you know, potentially 1436 01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:28.600 have a new place for what I would assume will 1437 01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:32.920 be called the Huntsman Center still is necessary. It's a 1438 01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:35.880 it's a cool place. It has a great history. You know, 1439 01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:39.960 the Magic Bird Final four run was here, but like 1440 01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:43.279 there hasn't been that much. There's been no Huntsman magic 1441 01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:46.359 man like like you know, Lynn Roberts teams have have 1442 01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:48.239 been fun the last couple of years, but like other 1443 01:14:48.359 --> 01:14:52.079 than that, it just really hasn't you know, obviously hasn't 1444 01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:54.000 struck the chord with the fan base for a multitude 1445 01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:58.199 of reasons. So it's a cool old building, but I 1446 01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:01.079 think it makes sense to be a to fund a 1447 01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:07.079 significant revamp on a antiquated building, even though it's cool 1448 01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:08.520 for sure. 1449 01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:12.000 And we had Doctor hill in studio yesterday, and you know. 1450 01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:13.560 Doctor hill the course hired. 1451 01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:16.279 Rick mcjerrison was around when Alex was a player, and 1452 01:15:16.880 --> 01:15:19.640 Alex reached out to doctor Hillton talked to him before 1453 01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:22.680 he decided to take the job. And this feels, Chris 1454 01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:26.239 like a hire that simply has just been given the 1455 01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:29.039 thumbs up by everybody all over the place, whatever wherever 1456 01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:32.119 your spot is in this ecosystem, if you played for 1457 01:15:32.199 --> 01:15:34.399 the school, if you're in the administration, if you cover 1458 01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:36.880 the team, or if you're a fan or whatever. Feels 1459 01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:38.760 like everybody's on board. But then of course the next 1460 01:15:38.760 --> 01:15:41.680 step is understanding how the staff is going to look. 1461 01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:44.840 But what what are the boxes that have to be checked? 1462 01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:49.239 Until you know, prior to finally seeing consistent big crowds 1463 01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:50.279 in that in that building. 1464 01:15:52.079 --> 01:15:56.439 Yeah, I would start with I mean, if we're going 1465 01:15:56.520 --> 01:16:03.000 to invert the pyramid, like one star talent, two cantilizing style, 1466 01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:07.359 play three wins, like you kind of have to have 1467 01:16:07.479 --> 01:16:11.079 an amalgamation of all those three. And obviously they can come, 1468 01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:14.239 you know in waves, like you can have star talent 1469 01:16:14.359 --> 01:16:17.359 that might underachieve for a while and blossom into something major. 1470 01:16:17.960 --> 01:16:20.239 You could be like those BYU teams that frankly, like 1471 01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:22.439 in the last decade haven't been great in the postseason, 1472 01:16:22.520 --> 01:16:25.520 but like they've played an enticing style of basketball, and 1473 01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:28.560 you know, whether it was Dave Rose or Mark Pope 1474 01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:32.640 or whomever, like they got people to want to go 1475 01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:36.000 to their games or watch their games. Utah just simply 1476 01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:39.560 hasn't had that for quite a long time. And like 1477 01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:43.720 there are other teams in college basketball across the country 1478 01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:47.159 that I figure that out. Utah, for whatever reason, amongst 1479 01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:50.239 you know, several you know, generations of coaches now in 1480 01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:52.840 the last twenty years, hasn't really been able to nail 1481 01:16:52.920 --> 01:16:55.479 that down. So I think that is one thing that 1482 01:16:55.680 --> 01:17:00.119 faces Alex like right right off the back, like he 1483 01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:02.840 has to get good players, and he has to install 1484 01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:05.720 a system where it's like I know in this you know, 1485 01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:09.399 you know, pay and space era, like that is going 1486 01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:11.520 to be you know, key for a lot. Yeah, I 1487 01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:14.960 got you, but I know that is going to be 1488 01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:17.359 paramount for a lot of teams, and it might work 1489 01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:21.399 for some teams, but like just I don't know, man 1490 01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:24.520 end up on Sports Center Top ten, like, give give 1491 01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:27.800 a casual college basketball fan a reason to tune in 1492 01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:32.000 to watch Utah play whomever who we're gonna throw out 1493 01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:35.439 there for the sake of being funny this week West Virginia, Like, like, 1494 01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:39.119 give the people a reason to tune in. And I 1495 01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:43.640 guarantee you Utah fans not only haven't really been tuning 1496 01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:46.399 in the last ten years or so, but like the 1497 01:17:46.479 --> 01:17:50.560 casuals who probably remember Utah being you know, fun way 1498 01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:54.359 back when, definitely haven't been paying attention. So that matters too. 1499 01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:56.039 When it comes to the staff. 1500 01:17:56.119 --> 01:17:59.039 We've discussed it, but it seems like every time I 1501 01:17:59.399 --> 01:18:02.720 read anything about it or hear anything from people, there 1502 01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:04.680 is this feel like, yeah, you got to just get 1503 01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:07.079 all the Utah guys. You just got to get And look, 1504 01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:10.399 I've said this probably twenty times. I'll say it again 1505 01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:13.439 for those that haven't heard. If Andrea wants to come, 1506 01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:16.920 that's the higher you make. To me, that's a no brainer. 1507 01:18:17.479 --> 01:18:19.399 And part of that is me. I'm sorry. I know 1508 01:18:19.479 --> 01:18:21.000 you want to be a gen xer, but I am. 1509 01:18:21.359 --> 01:18:23.880 And as a gen xer, you walk into a gym 1510 01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:26.520 with Andre Miller on your bench, that's cache and credibility 1511 01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:27.319 that's hard to find. 1512 01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.359 But beyond that, I think we're doing Alex maybe a. 1513 01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:33.760 Little bit of a disservice by saying, Okay, just hire 1514 01:18:33.800 --> 01:18:36.520 everybody else that wants to have the job that, once 1515 01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:39.239 upon a time may may have played at Utah. He's 1516 01:18:39.359 --> 01:18:43.520 been away from the college game, certainly for twenty years, 1517 01:18:44.039 --> 01:18:47.119 and he's been in pro basketball on a number of 1518 01:18:47.159 --> 01:18:49.800 different levels during that timeframe as well. And I'm sure 1519 01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:54.279 he has relationships and his cultivated relationships that are beyond 1520 01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:58.720 this ecosystem and this community what sort and I've been 1521 01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:00.560 and I talked to Doc Hill about this yesterday. If 1522 01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:04.319 we use the coach with model, he has coaches of 1523 01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:07.239 all different races, and he tries to balance things out 1524 01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:09.760 within state guys, out of state guys, and certainly you 1525 01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:13.479 need people that understand the just the way things work 1526 01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:16.039 around here. Sometimes I feel like that's a little bit overstated. 1527 01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:18.840 But generally speaking, as we wait to hear how Alex 1528 01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:20.960 fiells out his staff, what are you expecting to see? 1529 01:19:22.840 --> 01:19:25.000 I mean, the fact that he's coming from the league 1530 01:19:25.199 --> 01:19:28.720 probably lends to the theory that he might be willing 1531 01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:31.199 to bring some guys that he's met along the way 1532 01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:34.760 to work with him, and maybe not premier front bench 1533 01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:38.159 NBA assistants, but guys that he got to know over 1534 01:19:38.199 --> 01:19:42.640 the years, whether it was in the G League, D League, Jazz, Mavericks, whatever. 1535 01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:46.800 Alex doesn't really strike me as like the really like 1536 01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:50.960 super nostalgic type in that, like, I don't think he 1537 01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:54.760 believes that they'll only be successful if they only have 1538 01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:57.319 guys with Utah guys and like all you have to 1539 01:19:57.359 --> 01:19:59.479 do is look down in provo and I know Utah 1540 01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:02.520 fans hate hearing something like that. But like Kevin Young 1541 01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:05.199 hired a bunch of dudes who really don't have much 1542 01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:08.119 many ties to BYU at all. I mean, he hired 1543 01:20:08.159 --> 01:20:11.279 Wild Boite, who was you know, Rudy Gobert's League g 1544 01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:13.560 LEA coach back in the day, and like was like 1545 01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:17.760 coaching in Germany, so like, all you have to do 1546 01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:20.439 is find the right mix of guys and find the 1547 01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:23.000 guys who are good at recruiting and recruiting lea, it's 1548 01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:24.039 the good players period. 1549 01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:29.560 Yeah, it does, honeymoon period. Uh, you know, because we 1550 01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:30.399 do this weird thing. 1551 01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:33.359 I've talked to you about it before where sports fans 1552 01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:35.640 just seem to love you until they don't. And the 1553 01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:37.960 Donovan Mitchell example in our market is what I always 1554 01:20:38.039 --> 01:20:41.039 go to where like that dude walked on water until 1555 01:20:41.119 --> 01:20:45.000 he very much did not. And right now, everything, as 1556 01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:46.960 you like to say, as the kids like to say, 1557 01:20:47.079 --> 01:20:50.079 the vibes are high and good vibes around the program, 1558 01:20:50.399 --> 01:20:52.520 you know, and that's that's a good thing. 1559 01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:53.399 You know. 1560 01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:56.319 Me though, I'm gonna say it results over vibes. How 1561 01:20:56.359 --> 01:20:58.960 long how long does Alex get before we start doing 1562 01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:00.760 the thing where we're like, hey, maybe this wasn't the 1563 01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:01.439 right will. 1564 01:21:02.600 --> 01:21:05.279 Well, I'll start off by saying it depends on what 1565 01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:08.560 his nil budget is, because I think in this in 1566 01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:12.720 this era of college athletics, you have to take that 1567 01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:17.640 into account right off the bat. So if Alex has 1568 01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:21.960 a you know, treasure trovee of money, to go out 1569 01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:25.439 and compete then, Like, I think you are going to 1570 01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:29.439 be leaned upon to get results very quickly because money 1571 01:21:29.760 --> 01:21:32.399 gets good players now and we've seen that at BYU. 1572 01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:35.560 So what are you saying, dude, I'm on the radio. Sorry. 1573 01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:42.119 We are in an era now where you have to 1574 01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:45.439 be able to pay good players and Utah hasn't had 1575 01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:51.760 good players lately and he's going to have I mean, 1576 01:21:51.880 --> 01:21:54.439 is it is it unrealistic to say four or five 1577 01:21:54.520 --> 01:21:57.840 years like this is? This is kind of the tricky part, 1578 01:21:58.199 --> 01:22:00.720 you know, bringing home a legend of a program that 1579 01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:03.800 was representative of a heyday that's always going to be 1580 01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:06.880 measured up to. Like I'm not saying it's not going 1581 01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:09.640 to work out by all accounts. Alex is a you know, 1582 01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:11.880 a really good coach and a guy that should be 1583 01:22:11.960 --> 01:22:15.319 able to turn things around. But homecomings don't always work out. 1584 01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:17.359 I mean, like you can look as recently as you 1585 01:22:17.399 --> 01:22:19.720 know Mike Woodson at Indiana, a guy who was a 1586 01:22:19.800 --> 01:22:21.960 head coach in the NBA for a very long time, 1587 01:22:22.079 --> 01:22:24.640 and I think Mike Woodson was like a star player 1588 01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:27.760 under Bobby Knight back in the day, and like Mike 1589 01:22:27.800 --> 01:22:30.199 Woodson didn't have much success at Indiana at all. So 1590 01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:34.920 I know every example at every school is different, but 1591 01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:39.359 for me, it's going to start with how much money 1592 01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:41.960 does Alex and his staff have at their disposal and 1593 01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:44.399 what kind of players they can bring in in I say, 1594 01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:45.439 one or two years. 1595 01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:48.199 Nor of ball and grinder of tape. 1596 01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:51.279 Apparently, Chris Camaraddi on the program, good Mike Woodson knowledge 1597 01:22:51.640 --> 01:22:54.159 the example I keep coming back to. I can remember 1598 01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:58.600 when BYU hired Ty Dettner, and all of my BYU bros, 1599 01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:02.000 all my BYU family men are like, all right, Championship 1600 01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:06.279 game over tied is the man Heisman Trophy and within 1601 01:23:06.399 --> 01:23:09.079 like four games, people down there were like, he has 1602 01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:11.800 no clue what he's doing. He's never coached college football before. 1603 01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:15.079 Well, correct me if I'm wrong. I feel like Ki 1604 01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:18.880 jumped from like one a Texas private school football to 1605 01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:23.199 being BYU's offensive coordinator. I think that was I think 1606 01:23:23.239 --> 01:23:27.760 that was the jump. So yeah, I mean, I'm sure 1607 01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:30.479 if you ask Polani in retrospect, that was a learning 1608 01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:34.199 moment for him and like proof that no matter how 1609 01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:37.720 far you back, how far back you go in terms 1610 01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:42.039 of nostalgia, it doesn't always equate two results in present 1611 01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:46.159 day and but there are also you know, tons of 1612 01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:49.560 examples as well. So it's it's hard. Man. I'm always 1613 01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:52.000 going to be with you on results over vibes, and 1614 01:23:52.119 --> 01:23:54.680 I'm always going to be with you on you have 1615 01:23:54.880 --> 01:24:00.319 to understand this place, the culture here, and how to 1616 01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:04.840 get to people. And for too long, Utah has missed 1617 01:24:04.840 --> 01:24:06.800 out on some of the best and state recruits, not 1618 01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:08.640 only to be yu, I mean they were losing guys 1619 01:24:08.680 --> 01:24:12.079 to Utah States fence. I mean, like I know, Utah 1620 01:24:12.119 --> 01:24:15.119 State has, you know, as a legacy school. Guys like 1621 01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:18.319 Sam Merrill will go to Utah State because their legacies. 1622 01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:21.720 But like you got to get some in state players 1623 01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:24.800 that are really really good. I mean growing up, like 1624 01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:27.159 when I moved here, there weren't that many good high 1625 01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:30.159 school basketball players. But since I got into this job 1626 01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:33.399 thirteen years ago, there have been a lot of good 1627 01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:36.199 players come out of the state. And like we churn 1628 01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:39.880 out pro players quite often now. So it's not hard 1629 01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:43.399 to be able to set your recruiting boundary not too wide, 1630 01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:44.840 but you've got to be able to win the head 1631 01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:46.159 to heads with people in state. 1632 01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:51.359 Yeah, one hundred percent, you know, and we keep talking 1633 01:24:51.399 --> 01:24:54.000 about the majeris model where you were able to get 1634 01:24:54.199 --> 01:24:57.880 superstars like Van Horn and Andre from out of state 1635 01:24:57.960 --> 01:25:00.399 Doliak and then supplement it with the Britain John Soon's 1636 01:25:00.439 --> 01:25:02.479 the Josh Grants of the world that played here locally. 1637 01:25:03.359 --> 01:25:08.319 All right, speaking of results over vibes the Red Hot 1638 01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:12.479 Real Salt Lakes streak. As RSEL has won two of 1639 01:25:12.560 --> 01:25:15.640 their last three, they go down to Houston and get 1640 01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:19.720 a result, which they never do. My guy Diego gets 1641 01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:23.840 his first goal. Your guy Diogo also opens his bank account. Kids, 1642 01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:27.199 that's a soccer term. So it e changed in the 1643 01:25:27.479 --> 01:25:30.119 k take on RSL after a couple of decent results 1644 01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:32.399 over their past three I mean, I'm refreshing our guy 1645 01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:35.239 Tom Bogert every day to see if a nine's on 1646 01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:36.600 the way, but we continue to wait. 1647 01:25:37.239 --> 01:25:41.159 No change. RSL ran into a team whose fortunes and 1648 01:25:41.279 --> 01:25:45.359 current roster construction is much worse than their own. They 1649 01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:47.920 lost their starting goalkeeper to a torn acl like five 1650 01:25:47.960 --> 01:25:50.960 minutes into the game, so the Dynamo or downs fence. 1651 01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:54.159 But you know, credit to ourself. They won in a 1652 01:25:54.199 --> 01:25:57.479 place that historically is very difficult for them to win. 1653 01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:02.000 At Diego Luda man like I shudder to think where 1654 01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:04.319 this club would be without him, not only from an 1655 01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:06.560 on field point of view, but from a you know, 1656 01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:09.399 marketing point of view, from an excitement point of view, 1657 01:26:09.640 --> 01:26:12.960 Like eventually, we talked about this a few weeks ago 1658 01:26:13.039 --> 01:26:16.199 when I was in the studio with Trey before the 1659 01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:20.840 Conquer CAF series started, Like when not if, When Diego 1660 01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:23.359 is sold, it's going to be a huge bummer for 1661 01:26:23.439 --> 01:26:25.479 the fan base. And I think, like a fan base 1662 01:26:25.520 --> 01:26:28.359 that's already kind of on edge trying to figure out 1663 01:26:29.079 --> 01:26:32.479 what their plan is where they want to go, that 1664 01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:35.640 that to me is a very fascinating subplot to this 1665 01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:39.720 season because they simultaneously need this kid and need him 1666 01:26:39.760 --> 01:26:42.039 to star and ball out like he does and like 1667 01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:45.359 he can. But if a number comes across the desk 1668 01:26:45.479 --> 01:26:48.920 of Kurt Schmidt and those guys and you talk to 1669 01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:50.840 Diego and he wants it, you have to do it. So, 1670 01:26:51.479 --> 01:26:53.880 Like I know, you've talked about how this is an 1671 01:26:53.920 --> 01:26:57.159 odd point of like contention for you as a as 1672 01:26:57.199 --> 01:26:59.960 a fan learning that like some players just exist to lead. 1673 01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:03.560 But this is the reality of international club soccer and 1674 01:27:04.359 --> 01:27:06.760 it's going to hit ourself pretty hard here, I would 1675 01:27:06.760 --> 01:27:10.079 say in the next I don't know, I don't. I 1676 01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:12.039 think he might finish out the season, but it could 1677 01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:14.159 happen as early as summer. Last year, nobody really saw 1678 01:27:14.239 --> 01:27:16.520 andrascomas being sold to Europe in the summertime, so you 1679 01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:18.159 never know how quickly these things can move. 1680 01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:20.720 Why haven't you deleted Twitter? I mean you don't even 1681 01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:21.880 send out your work anymore. 1682 01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:27.720 It's a good place to find things to make fun 1683 01:27:27.760 --> 01:27:29.680 of people to send to my friends. 1684 01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:32.840 Yeah, and I would be sad if that threat ended. 1685 01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:35.159 I'm just wondering, like, are you you got anything in 1686 01:27:35.199 --> 01:27:38.279 the hopper? Anything cooking? Eckpieces dropping anytime soon? 1687 01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:41.920 We'll see, you know. 1688 01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:45.720 I'm just I'm still decompressing, man, I'm I'm hibernating Spence. 1689 01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:48.600 I'm I'm not down bad, but you know me, man, 1690 01:27:48.640 --> 01:27:51.600 I I need these I need these rays to come 1691 01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:55.439 out and grace my skin for several days before I 1692 01:27:55.479 --> 01:27:58.680 can really turn things around. I'm joking. I'm gonna help 1693 01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:04.640 out with some March madness on remote and we'll see. Like, 1694 01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:08.880 you know, I'm living the the plush life of taking 1695 01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:10.960 care of a sick toddler and watching Pow Patrol. So 1696 01:28:11.079 --> 01:28:12.039 that's that's my day. 1697 01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:16.159 As I was fighting through a and you know, Monday 1698 01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:18.600 was your boy's birthday, a little Saint Patti's day. So 1699 01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:23.560 I'm fighting through the hip, the shoulder, the back shoveling 1700 01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:26.239 wet snow yesterday morning. 1701 01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:28.520 I'm not gonna lie. You came to my mind, How 1702 01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:29.359 did that storm hit you? 1703 01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:30.720 Oh? 1704 01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:33.199 It hit me hard, man, Like I don't know what this. 1705 01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:37.000 I feel like this season, of all seasons, we're getting 1706 01:28:37.079 --> 01:28:40.640 like really crappy, like East Coast wet snow, like the 1707 01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:44.520 greatest snow on earth has not graced Salt Lake City 1708 01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:47.920 like one time this year. It's just been this wet, 1709 01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:50.880 sloppy snow, and it's I get. I mean, in theory, 1710 01:28:50.920 --> 01:28:52.760 I guess it's easier to just push. But you don't 1711 01:28:52.760 --> 01:28:54.239 want to lift it. You want to throw out your back. 1712 01:28:54.840 --> 01:28:57.760 I know they say like like shoveling heavy wet snow 1713 01:28:57.840 --> 01:29:00.239 is a leading cause for heart attacks and older men. 1714 01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:02.520 So like we're we're in the age now, Spence where 1715 01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:04.199 we gotta we gotta watch it a little bit, So 1716 01:29:04.279 --> 01:29:07.640 don't push yourself. I didn't push myself. Leo helped me, 1717 01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:10.399 and he's I'm probably the reason he got sick. But 1718 01:29:11.359 --> 01:29:14.159 I guess I'm looking outside right now and the snow 1719 01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:17.680 is giving way to brown brass, which is a transition 1720 01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:20.520 to to next weekend. It's going to be seventy degrees 1721 01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:23.560 and I'm sure my guy is going to be out 1722 01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:27.399 somewhere getting getting his bag. 1723 01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:30.840 Of clubs, chomping at the bit. I cannot wait to 1724 01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:32.600 get out and play. And we're gonna drag you out 1725 01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:33.760 at least couple of times this year. 1726 01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:36.319 Right, I'm ready, man, I don't think I got out 1727 01:29:36.359 --> 01:29:38.920 last year. And there's only one person not to blame, 1728 01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:41.239 and it's me. It's everyone else's fault. I hope you 1729 01:29:41.319 --> 01:29:41.520 know that. 1730 01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:44.039 Yeah, no, it always is, Christopher. I go attend to 1731 01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:45.640 your child, buddy, Thanks for the time. 1732 01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:46.439 Thanks man. 1733 01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:51.239 Foo Fighter's best songs. Possibly it's in the it's in 1734 01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:52.600 the mix, it's in the conversation. 1735 01:29:53.479 --> 01:29:55.119 I think it might be. I think it's it might 1736 01:29:55.159 --> 01:29:57.439 be my favorite food food food Fighter song. 1737 01:29:57.520 --> 01:29:59.720 Excuse me, but Ken Palmeroy is sitting across from me, 1738 01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:03.319 Foo Fighters fan, I believe, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, best 1739 01:30:03.439 --> 01:30:05.680 Food Fighters song in the mix, in the conversation. 1740 01:30:07.000 --> 01:30:09.880 Yes, that's in the conversation. Certainly, Okay, fair enough. How 1741 01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:12.560 are you Ken? I'm doing well, Spence. 1742 01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:15.279 It is your time of Year Ken Pomeroy live in 1743 01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:18.039 studio for an entire hour, So buckle up. If you've 1744 01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:20.960 not filled out your brackets, it's time to get some 1745 01:30:21.359 --> 01:30:23.920 some tips, some knowledge here and I'll take this opportunity 1746 01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:26.399 to encourage you to go to ESPN seven hundred sports 1747 01:30:26.439 --> 01:30:29.279 dot com and join our bracket challenge. You can play 1748 01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:31.880 against us the talent on air. That's where the call us. 1749 01:30:31.960 --> 01:30:34.960 That's not my term, that would be pretentious. You don't 1750 01:30:35.039 --> 01:30:38.399 fill out brackets very often, if I remember correctly. 1751 01:30:38.119 --> 01:30:40.720 Yes, yeah, I try to avoid it. I try to 1752 01:30:40.800 --> 01:30:41.159 avoid it. 1753 01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:42.760 I mean I filled out one. I do have one 1754 01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:45.560 hair spence that I filled out nice against my will, 1755 01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:51.199 but just to appease folks like you, I have a. 1756 01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:52.560 Bracket folks like me. 1757 01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:53.079 Yeah. 1758 01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:55.479 I don't exactly know what that means. That just means 1759 01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:57.640 Like when I do media appearances, people are always like, oh, 1760 01:30:57.800 --> 01:30:59.600 you got in your sweet sixteen in the South Regin 1761 01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:03.159 or whatever, and like, okay, I have I have an answer. Okay, 1762 01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:05.439 that's good for that purpose. I'm not entering a pool 1763 01:31:05.479 --> 01:31:07.159 of any type. I just want to make that clear, Okay, 1764 01:31:07.279 --> 01:31:07.760 no pool. 1765 01:31:07.960 --> 01:31:10.479 Ken Palm is not entering a pool, but coming up 1766 01:31:10.520 --> 01:31:12.439 in our second segment, we are going to talk about 1767 01:31:12.479 --> 01:31:14.239 your bracket, and I'm going to take notes because I 1768 01:31:14.279 --> 01:31:16.840 have a family bracket, i have a friend bracket, and 1769 01:31:16.920 --> 01:31:18.600 then I've got to try to win this thing again 1770 01:31:18.640 --> 01:31:20.279 at work, which I've done five straight years. 1771 01:31:20.319 --> 01:31:22.600 It's not a big deal. Wow, humble brack. 1772 01:31:23.199 --> 01:31:27.000 So North Carolina, nobody thought that they should be in, 1773 01:31:27.159 --> 01:31:29.319 right at least that's I felt like most people thought 1774 01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:31.680 that they, you know, kind of got lucky to get in. 1775 01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:34.800 West Virginia whatever. San Diego State's a good team. 1776 01:31:34.880 --> 01:31:37.600 That was not a fair fight. Are you okay with 1777 01:31:37.720 --> 01:31:40.079 Carolina getting in? I'm assuming that you know that's kind 1778 01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:40.800 of your your feeling. 1779 01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:45.279 Yeah, the the Yeah, the narrative kind of got out 1780 01:31:45.279 --> 01:31:46.840 of control of the respect to Carolina. I mean, part 1781 01:31:46.840 --> 01:31:49.720 of it is because their ad is on the is 1782 01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:52.720 the head of the basketball selection committee, so that was 1783 01:31:52.840 --> 01:31:56.279 one issue. The second issue is that the ad got 1784 01:31:56.319 --> 01:31:59.720 a bonus if their teammate the field, So that probably 1785 01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:02.000 didn't be allowed if you're on the committee, I don't 1786 01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:03.680 think it should be in your contract that if your 1787 01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:05.039 team gets in, you get a bonus. 1788 01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:07.600 It's a bad look. It's a very bad look. 1789 01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:13.079 Even though the ad Bubba Cunningham was required to not 1790 01:32:13.159 --> 01:32:16.680 be in the room for any discussions about Carolina. Nonetheless, 1791 01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:20.520 bad look, but the reality was Carolina actually did deserve. 1792 01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:21.079 To be in the tournament. 1793 01:32:21.119 --> 01:32:24.720 If you look at some of the more useful resume 1794 01:32:24.840 --> 01:32:27.560 based metrics, it was really Xavier was the team that 1795 01:32:27.840 --> 01:32:29.720 got in that shouldn't have got in. But because Xavier 1796 01:32:29.760 --> 01:32:32.640 did not have representation on the committee, nobody cared about 1797 01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:34.920 Xavier and everybody focused on Carolina. And as we saw 1798 01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:36.560 last night, I mean, that's not proof that they should 1799 01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:40.079 have been in. But obviously, at their best, Carolina is 1800 01:32:40.079 --> 01:32:41.000 a very very good team. 1801 01:32:41.439 --> 01:32:44.039 I mean I've watched I've watched them here or there 1802 01:32:44.279 --> 01:32:46.279 this year, and they've they've got some good wins. But 1803 01:32:46.399 --> 01:32:48.920 like San Diego State's a good defensive basketball team, they 1804 01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:51.439 could not do a thing against Carolina last night. 1805 01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:54.039 This is like a long running issue with Mountain West too, 1806 01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:56.000 where it's like, yeah, you think, you know, you look 1807 01:32:56.039 --> 01:32:58.279 at their profiles and you think some of these teams 1808 01:32:58.279 --> 01:33:02.000 should be more competitive than they are in these first 1809 01:33:02.079 --> 01:33:06.039 round games, and yeah, ultimately that was I mean just 1810 01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:08.920 a brutal look for the Aztecs. This was not a 1811 01:33:09.479 --> 01:33:12.359 you know, a great San Diego State team, not on 1812 01:33:12.399 --> 01:33:14.000 the level of the team you know two years ago 1813 01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:15.600 they got to the title game, but it's still a 1814 01:33:15.640 --> 01:33:15.880 team that. 1815 01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:17.319 Yeah, it was a pretty good defensive team. 1816 01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:21.079 They got Magoon gwathe Back, who is a sneaky, fringy 1817 01:33:21.239 --> 01:33:24.920 NBA prospect Rin protector type of guy, but they were 1818 01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:26.039 no match for the Tar Heels. 1819 01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:30.319 So Ken Pomeroy, who is one of the most wildly respected, 1820 01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:33.960 widely and wildly but widely respected college basketball minds in 1821 01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:36.880 the country, has his bracket sitting on the counter in 1822 01:33:36.920 --> 01:33:38.800 front of me. I feel like it's like the Holy Grail. 1823 01:33:38.960 --> 01:33:42.279 There's this like magical kind of feel around it. But 1824 01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:43.880 before we get to the bracket, which we'll do a 1825 01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:48.399 little bit later, let's start with general tips and pieces. 1826 01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:49.199 Of advice as people. 1827 01:33:49.319 --> 01:33:51.119 I know you don't love this stuff, but hey, it's 1828 01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:52.840 you know, people are going to fill out brackets, and 1829 01:33:52.920 --> 01:33:56.720 a lot of people filling out brackets now that haven't 1830 01:33:56.760 --> 01:33:59.199 watched basketball year. I told you this is the time 1831 01:33:59.199 --> 01:34:02.399 of year where I'll get text from my aunts or 1832 01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:04.840 you know, family members I haven't talked to in a while, like, hey, 1833 01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:06.399 will you fill up my bracket? I'm like just so 1834 01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:09.840 you know, it's an exercising futility. But you hear things 1835 01:34:10.039 --> 01:34:13.439 like great coaching, You hear things like great guard play, 1836 01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:17.000 you hear things like matchups whatever. Just for our listeners 1837 01:34:17.079 --> 01:34:19.560 that are about to sit down and fill out a bracket, 1838 01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:23.279 just generals, generally speaking, thirty thousand foot view pieces of advice. 1839 01:34:23.359 --> 01:34:27.319 Ken, Yeah, I wouldn't latch onto any one, you know, 1840 01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:30.319 hyper specific aspect and pretend like that's going to be 1841 01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:33.640 the key to your success. I mean, coaching, of course 1842 01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:38.680 is important, but it's not an overwhelming quality if the 1843 01:34:38.800 --> 01:34:42.119 talent isn't there. Like Bill Sell, for instance, outstanding coach, 1844 01:34:42.199 --> 01:34:44.800 maybe the best coach the last twenty five years in 1845 01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:45.479 college basketball. 1846 01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:46.760 His team is not very good this year. 1847 01:34:47.439 --> 01:34:49.880 There's nothing, no sort of magic potion he's going to 1848 01:34:49.920 --> 01:34:52.119 come up with to get that team to the final four. 1849 01:34:53.399 --> 01:34:56.920 The general idea is you want to be just kind 1850 01:34:56.920 --> 01:34:59.119 of loosely informed on how good these teams are. Like 1851 01:34:59.359 --> 01:35:01.399 then say, turn but this year really top heavy in 1852 01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:03.199 terms of the quality. You know, one, twos and three 1853 01:35:03.279 --> 01:35:06.800 seeds are all probably a better quality than they normally are, 1854 01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:10.159 so you know, picking against them, picking some sort of 1855 01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:15.239 wild upset, you know, I'm not against having fun with 1856 01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:17.640 the upsets, but if your goal is to you know, 1857 01:35:17.880 --> 01:35:20.000 stay in contention for your pool, you probably want to 1858 01:35:20.039 --> 01:35:22.399 avoid picking crazy upsets in the first round or two. 1859 01:35:22.720 --> 01:35:22.920 Well. 1860 01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:25.239 And also, and you correct me if I'm wrong, it 1861 01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:27.960 feels like the I went to the final four in 1862 01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:34.239 Indianapolis back when Florida had Noah and Horford and it 1863 01:35:34.359 --> 01:35:36.520 was UCLA with there on a Falaalow. I think George 1864 01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:39.039 Mason was the team that made it in that year 1865 01:35:39.239 --> 01:35:42.720 as a wild card cindereround, and they got smoked more 1866 01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:45.520 often than not. Elite eight final four, the cream typically 1867 01:35:45.880 --> 01:35:46.680 rises to the top. 1868 01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:49.439 Is that fair? That's correct, That's correct. But obviously you 1869 01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:50.359 do you do get upsides. 1870 01:35:50.359 --> 01:35:52.119 You know, you have the NC State situation from last 1871 01:35:52.199 --> 01:35:55.399 year where they were like just amazingly lucky to win 1872 01:35:55.479 --> 01:35:58.680 their conference tournament and then they got in in one 1873 01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:00.319 four games in a row and got to the final four. 1874 01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:04.520 This year, it seems like it's less likely for something 1875 01:36:04.640 --> 01:36:07.520 like that to happen, just because there is such heft 1876 01:36:08.119 --> 01:36:11.640 at the top of the bracket that there just won't 1877 01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:14.319 be It's gonna be very hard for these teams to 1878 01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:16.039 get knocked off early. It's not to say you're gonna 1879 01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:18.119 four one seeds in the final four. The chances of 1880 01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:21.239 that happening are even this year, are only like five percent, 1881 01:36:21.439 --> 01:36:23.640 so so not great. 1882 01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:25.640 But you're gonna see. 1883 01:36:25.680 --> 01:36:27.720 I would really be surprised if you have any teams 1884 01:36:27.760 --> 01:36:31.600 in the final four outside of the top three seeds. 1885 01:36:31.680 --> 01:36:34.960 Let's say, all right, of the four to one seeds. Okay, 1886 01:36:35.079 --> 01:36:37.600 here's your cliche media guy question of the day. You've 1887 01:36:37.640 --> 01:36:40.840 got Auburn, who's the number one overall seed. You have 1888 01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:44.520 Duke Cooper flag expected to play on Friday. Duke will 1889 01:36:44.560 --> 01:36:47.479 learn their opponent tonight as the final play in games 1890 01:36:47.560 --> 01:36:50.880 are taking place. Then you've got Houston out of the 1891 01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:53.880 Big twelve, of course. And then I told you this 1892 01:36:53.960 --> 01:36:56.520 a few weeks ago for whatever reason, And this is 1893 01:36:56.600 --> 01:36:58.920 a problem I run into when I fill out my brackets. 1894 01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:02.359 I'll watch a team randomly four or five times throughout 1895 01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:03.399 the year and they'll blow me away. 1896 01:37:03.479 --> 01:37:04.399 That was Florida this year. 1897 01:37:04.479 --> 01:37:06.960 Every time I watched a Florida game, I'm like, nobody's 1898 01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:09.399 talking about them, and they're awesome. Well, they just won 1899 01:37:09.479 --> 01:37:11.880 the tournament the best conference in America, So Florida is 1900 01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:14.399 the other one. Seed of the four to one seeds, 1901 01:37:14.760 --> 01:37:18.039 which team would you say either is most prone to 1902 01:37:18.079 --> 01:37:20.359 be upset early or is the weakest of the four 1903 01:37:20.399 --> 01:37:22.119 And why I would. 1904 01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:22.600 Go with Auburn. 1905 01:37:22.640 --> 01:37:25.199 I mean, first of all, they are the lowest rated 1906 01:37:25.239 --> 01:37:28.159 team in my ratings, so they're the number four team 1907 01:37:28.199 --> 01:37:30.479 in the country, which is still awesome obviously, but the 1908 01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:33.800 weakest of the four seeds. The second issue is that 1909 01:37:34.039 --> 01:37:36.600 potentially in their second round game, that will be matched 1910 01:37:36.640 --> 01:37:39.399 up with the Louisville team that has kind of themselves 1911 01:37:39.399 --> 01:37:41.479 been under the radar all year, was kind of badly 1912 01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:44.439 underseeded in this tournament. Probably should have been a five seed, 1913 01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:46.279 maybe a six at worse, stand up with an eight. 1914 01:37:46.600 --> 01:37:48.319 But the good news for Louisville is that they are 1915 01:37:48.359 --> 01:37:52.760 playing in Lexington, Kentucky, which is like an hour drive 1916 01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:56.359 from Louisville, and so, as you may know, Kentucky is 1917 01:37:56.399 --> 01:38:01.039 a basketball crazed state. Sure should be a pretty good 1918 01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:02.920 turnout there. I mean, Auburn will have some fans, they'll 1919 01:38:02.960 --> 01:38:06.239 travel too, but I have a feeling that Louisville will 1920 01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:07.840 have the lion's share of the fans if they do. 1921 01:38:08.239 --> 01:38:10.279 If they are able to get by Creighton in their 1922 01:38:10.319 --> 01:38:13.560 first round game and matchup with Auburn, and so that's 1923 01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:17.000 easily the toughest second round game and need these one 1924 01:38:17.039 --> 01:38:19.279 seeds will have, so that that could be a potential 1925 01:38:19.319 --> 01:38:21.239 issue for the Auburn Tigers. 1926 01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:21.960 While we're in the South. 1927 01:38:22.840 --> 01:38:26.239 Does the Committee just take a vacation during conference tournaments? 1928 01:38:26.279 --> 01:38:29.520 I mean, Michigan wins the Big Ten tournament, they beat 1929 01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:31.560 two four seeds, they beat a three seed, and. 1930 01:38:31.560 --> 01:38:32.720 They're on the five line. 1931 01:38:33.159 --> 01:38:35.880 Like, does the committee just fundamentally ignore what you do 1932 01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:36.960 in conference tournaments? 1933 01:38:37.359 --> 01:38:39.359 I think they ignore what you do on the weekend 1934 01:38:39.399 --> 01:38:40.319 in conference tournaments. 1935 01:38:40.399 --> 01:38:43.359 So yeah, I thought I found it interesting that, you know, 1936 01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:45.680 there was some complain about, you know, miss like the 1937 01:38:45.720 --> 01:38:48.199 committee not paying attention to the Big Ten Championship. I mean, 1938 01:38:48.399 --> 01:38:51.199 the Big Ten Championship game ends like fifteen minutes before 1939 01:38:51.199 --> 01:38:54.319 the selection show starts, so it's really not feasible for 1940 01:38:54.319 --> 01:38:56.399 the committee to go in and tweak a bracket based 1941 01:38:56.439 --> 01:38:58.560 on that result. I mean, the graphics are surely already 1942 01:38:58.640 --> 01:39:01.600 made for the show, and so yeah, that game doesn't count. 1943 01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:04.039 If you want that game to count, you know, play 1944 01:39:04.079 --> 01:39:06.359 your championship game on Saturday like most other conferences. 1945 01:39:07.960 --> 01:39:11.359 So there's that issue. I don't think Saturday counts very 1946 01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:11.680 much either. 1947 01:39:11.680 --> 01:39:13.880 I think the committee has admitted much in the past, 1948 01:39:13.960 --> 01:39:16.079 like it's just so complicated to put these brackets together 1949 01:39:16.119 --> 01:39:17.520 with all the rules that they have to deal with 1950 01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:20.359 that for the most part, they're going to lock things 1951 01:39:20.439 --> 01:39:24.000 in on Saturday unless you get some sort of you know, 1952 01:39:24.199 --> 01:39:27.159 non traditional team winning a conference tournament that you have 1953 01:39:27.279 --> 01:39:29.000 to slip into the tournament and then give another team 1954 01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:30.720 in that large bid and maybe another team gets knocked 1955 01:39:30.760 --> 01:39:32.479 out because of that. But barring a situation like that, 1956 01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:36.760 they're mostly gonna say, hey, Saturday morning, our bracket is 1957 01:39:36.760 --> 01:39:37.479 pretty much locked. 1958 01:39:37.800 --> 01:39:40.920 You reference Xavier grabbing a bid when you didn't think 1959 01:39:40.960 --> 01:39:43.880 they should give me. Just kick the tires on some 1960 01:39:44.319 --> 01:39:47.479 over seeded teams, underseeded teams, some teams you think. 1961 01:39:47.439 --> 01:39:49.760 The committee got wrong. Well, it's not even so much 1962 01:39:49.760 --> 01:39:52.000 that the committee got wrong. They got Louisville wrong based 1963 01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:54.399 on resume. Some of the other cases are just cases 1964 01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:57.800 where teams are fundamentally either better in the metrics or 1965 01:39:57.840 --> 01:40:00.199 worse in the metrics than their resume would indicate. So 1966 01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:02.800 a team like in Zaga is the prime example of that, 1967 01:40:03.439 --> 01:40:06.119 and it's not an unusual situation for them, But you know, 1968 01:40:06.159 --> 01:40:09.319 they get an eight seed. They're ranked ninth in my ratings. 1969 01:40:10.479 --> 01:40:13.920 You know, they struggled early in the year against some 1970 01:40:14.039 --> 01:40:15.920 of the quality opponents they played. Some of the teams 1971 01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:17.760 they beat early in the year ended up not being 1972 01:40:17.800 --> 01:40:20.079 as good as we might have thought. And then they 1973 01:40:20.119 --> 01:40:22.920 got into conference play struggled a little bit. I mean, 1974 01:40:22.920 --> 01:40:26.000 the only truly like high end quality wins you can 1975 01:40:26.039 --> 01:40:27.760 get in that leaguer agains Saint Mary's. They lost both 1976 01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:29.560 of their games in the regular season against Saint Mary's 1977 01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:31.439 and then ultimately they did beat Saint Mary's in the 1978 01:40:31.439 --> 01:40:36.319 conference tournament. But it's a team that the fundamental metrics 1979 01:40:36.479 --> 01:40:39.600 are way higher on them than the resume, so they're 1980 01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:41.600 they're more of a quality of a two or three seed. 1981 01:40:42.319 --> 01:40:44.119 But playing as an eight seed, they'll get matched up 1982 01:40:44.119 --> 01:40:45.960 with Houston in the second round if they're able to 1983 01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:49.279 get by Georgia, and you know, Houston will be favored 1984 01:40:49.319 --> 01:40:51.000 in that game, but it's a it's a pretty tough 1985 01:40:51.079 --> 01:40:53.640 test for Houston in that second game. And then the 1986 01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:55.279 flip side of that would be Memphis, who got a 1987 01:40:55.319 --> 01:40:58.079 five seed, won a ton of close games plays in 1988 01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:02.079 a weaker conference, they ranked outside the top fifty in 1989 01:41:02.119 --> 01:41:04.439 my ratings, So what are the weaker five seeds you'll 1990 01:41:04.479 --> 01:41:06.920 ever see? And then they get matched up against Colorado 1991 01:41:06.960 --> 01:41:08.760 State in the first round, who's one of the hottest 1992 01:41:08.760 --> 01:41:11.560 teams in the country. So a chance here for you know, 1993 01:41:11.560 --> 01:41:13.760 if the Mountain West is ever going to sourage some dignity, 1994 01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:16.359 certainly a chance here for Colorado State to play a 1995 01:41:16.399 --> 01:41:19.680 Memphis team who is weak and also possibly probably I 1996 01:41:19.720 --> 01:41:23.039 would say, missing their normal starting point guard in Tyree's Hunter. 1997 01:41:23.680 --> 01:41:29.560 So BYU fans and members of the BYU media, and 1998 01:41:29.720 --> 01:41:32.159 it's just the deal where we have to be upset 1999 01:41:32.199 --> 01:41:35.199 about everything, whether it's the CFP committee and football getting 2000 01:41:35.279 --> 01:41:38.319 it wrong, whether Swig closes too earlier, they run out 2001 01:41:38.359 --> 01:41:41.199 of sugar, or their basketball team doesn't have the proper seed. 2002 01:41:42.159 --> 01:41:45.000 I don't know that six is egregious. I think you 2003 01:41:45.039 --> 01:41:47.359 could make an argument for a five seed. But to me, 2004 01:41:47.600 --> 01:41:50.359 the game's in Denver. You'd rather be a six seed 2005 01:41:50.439 --> 01:41:52.680 in Denver than a five seed in like Newark or whatever. 2006 01:41:52.840 --> 01:41:55.239 So BYU fans can drive down there before we get 2007 01:41:55.279 --> 01:41:56.720 to the matchup. What do you make of the seed 2008 01:41:56.800 --> 01:41:57.680 BYU is a six? 2009 01:41:57.800 --> 01:41:58.000 Yeah? 2010 01:41:58.000 --> 01:41:59.720 I mean if you're equippling over a five or six 2011 01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:02.800 to reevaluate what's important to you in life. 2012 01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:05.560 In the end, it doesn't. It doesn't make a whole 2013 01:42:05.560 --> 01:42:06.039 lot of difference. 2014 01:42:06.039 --> 01:42:07.680 I mean, last year BYU is a six, and they 2015 01:42:07.720 --> 01:42:10.880 were a bigger favorite in their first round game than 2016 01:42:11.239 --> 01:42:14.479 you know, some four seeds were. So a lot of 2017 01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:16.359 it depends on the opponent. And the issue here is 2018 01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:20.520 that their opponent is, you know, pretty formidable. I mean 2019 01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:23.880 VCU is you know, coush by Ryan Odam. Obviously we're 2020 01:42:23.880 --> 01:42:28.479 familiar with him. It's just a really sound defensive team, 2021 01:42:28.880 --> 01:42:31.920 really good interior defense, tries to take away the three 2022 01:42:31.960 --> 01:42:36.199 point shot to some extent, so you know, they have 2023 01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:39.560 the ability to make BYU uncomfortable offensively, which is obviously 2024 01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:43.000 an issue because BYU really depends on his offense to 2025 01:42:43.039 --> 01:42:44.960 win games or defense lags behind a little bit. So 2026 01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:47.239 so the issue here is more the opponent. But I 2027 01:42:47.239 --> 01:42:49.119 would agree, like you're playing at altitude, I think that 2028 01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:51.920 is of some benefit. You're playing somewhat close to home, 2029 01:42:52.319 --> 01:42:54.000 so you're going to have, you know, undoubtedly going to 2030 01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:56.119 be more BYU fans at ball arena than there there 2031 01:42:56.119 --> 01:42:58.079 will be VCU fans. So I think some of those 2032 01:42:58.159 --> 01:43:01.399 things will help the Cougars in their first round game. 2033 01:43:01.479 --> 01:43:03.680 Are you a fan of a flavored soda from time 2034 01:43:03.760 --> 01:43:04.119 to time? 2035 01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:10.039 I'm I'm not really no, It just you know, I'm 2036 01:43:10.079 --> 01:43:11.920 at that age where you know you just can't cram 2037 01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:13.159 a bunch of sugar down your throat. 2038 01:43:13.319 --> 01:43:15.960 Sure, I'm not judging. I'm sure Swig is a porter. 2039 01:43:16.079 --> 01:43:19.000 Have you ever did you frequent Swig? Have you ever 2040 01:43:19.079 --> 01:43:20.920 tried one of the I've got their menu pulled up, 2041 01:43:20.960 --> 01:43:24.319 for instance, a Raspberry Dream is doctor Pepper raspberry pure 2042 01:43:24.520 --> 01:43:25.520 quote coconut cream. 2043 01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:28.720 That's a lot of sugar. Did you frequent swig? 2044 01:43:29.119 --> 01:43:31.520 Definitely not a frequent I don't really do the soda 2045 01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:33.880 thing in general, so the soda with more soda or 2046 01:43:33.960 --> 01:43:38.239 sugar is not my lane. But I have tried what 2047 01:43:38.359 --> 01:43:40.880 I believe is called a dirty Doctor Pepper. Ah, it's 2048 01:43:40.880 --> 01:43:41.399 pretty good. 2049 01:43:41.319 --> 01:43:43.399 All right, Okay, let's get wild on a Wednesday with 2050 01:43:43.439 --> 01:43:46.239 a dirty Doctor Pepper. But over to the matchup, Ken, Yes, 2051 01:43:46.439 --> 01:43:50.520 so as you referenced, and I'm not saying Vcus Houston 2052 01:43:50.640 --> 01:43:53.039 at all, but like when you kind of dig into 2053 01:43:53.079 --> 01:43:56.000 what they like to do defensively, they've got three six ten. Dudes, 2054 01:43:56.600 --> 01:43:58.399 they've got the A ten Player of the Year. Former 2055 01:43:58.520 --> 01:44:01.560 Utah State kid Ryan Otamav was here coaching Utah State. 2056 01:44:02.119 --> 01:44:04.399 The line moved about an hour ago by use a 2057 01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:06.640 two point five point favorite. Now it opened up at 2058 01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:08.920 three point five. The Vegas action has gone the way 2059 01:44:08.960 --> 01:44:12.479 towards VCU. Is this upset alert? How does by you 2060 01:44:12.520 --> 01:44:15.960 get this win round one? Yeah, it's not gonna be easy. 2061 01:44:16.159 --> 01:44:18.840 I mean it's it's it's gonna be uh, it's gonna 2062 01:44:18.840 --> 01:44:21.239 be a grind, you know. 2063 01:44:21.319 --> 01:44:23.880 That's the other thing with vcus that their defensive possession 2064 01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:28.439 length is tenth slowest in the country, So that will uh, 2065 01:44:29.079 --> 01:44:30.640 you know, it gives you an idea, like they just 2066 01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:33.720 forced teams to take some time to define good shots. 2067 01:44:33.800 --> 01:44:36.279 And it also leads to the fact that vc is 2068 01:44:36.319 --> 01:44:39.079 thirtieth in the country in turnover eight, so they're going 2069 01:44:39.159 --> 01:44:42.319 to force some turnovers in those long possessions. They're number 2070 01:44:42.359 --> 01:44:44.399 one in the country's shooting defense once you factor in 2071 01:44:44.479 --> 01:44:47.119 the value of threes and two's number one in the 2072 01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:49.680 country and shooting defense against a weaker schedule. So take 2073 01:44:49.760 --> 01:44:52.319 it with a slight grain of salt, but they are 2074 01:44:52.520 --> 01:44:55.439 they are not Houston. We don't want to go crazy there, 2075 01:44:55.479 --> 01:44:58.079 but they are the the A ten kind of version 2076 01:44:58.119 --> 01:45:00.880 of Houston. And yeah, I mean by He's gonna have 2077 01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:02.359 to make some shots. It's gonna make some tough shots 2078 01:45:02.399 --> 01:45:04.199 to to earn a win here. 2079 01:45:04.640 --> 01:45:07.119 Well, the reason I brought up the Houston parallel is 2080 01:45:08.359 --> 01:45:10.840 and it wasn't just Houston Iowa State, b Yu bet 2081 01:45:10.880 --> 01:45:13.760 Iowa State. But as much as there is to like 2082 01:45:13.960 --> 01:45:17.880 about jegor Demon as a pro prospect, every time they 2083 01:45:18.000 --> 01:45:21.439 face pressure, he just he can't deal with it yet 2084 01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:24.520 he's young. And then Kevin goes to Dollon down Hall 2085 01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:27.319 and look, Dollen has gone through Big twelve battles. 2086 01:45:27.359 --> 01:45:29.600 He's a vet. There's a reason Mark wantam in Kentucky. 2087 01:45:30.319 --> 01:45:35.359 But what happens if byu h is not knocking down 2088 01:45:35.399 --> 01:45:38.640 their threes and the VCU pressure gets to them, because 2089 01:45:39.079 --> 01:45:41.840 against teams that don't have elite length like VCU as 2090 01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:44.840 we've talked about, bring in foos, let him go to work. 2091 01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:48.439 But Treori's six' five, maybe and these three six ten 2092 01:45:48.520 --> 01:45:50.720 kids are gonna give them trouble with. Length If byu 2093 01:45:50.840 --> 01:45:52.760 isn't knocking down shots and the pressure is getting to, 2094 01:45:52.840 --> 01:45:53.640 Them What's what's the. 2095 01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:57.039 Answer, uh they have to they got to figure that. 2096 01:45:57.079 --> 01:45:59.800 OUT i don't know if there is an. Answer, YEAH i, 2097 01:45:59.840 --> 01:46:01.199 mean but you bring up a good. POINT i MEAN 2098 01:46:01.279 --> 01:46:05.640 vcu does have size and length of more of A 2099 01:46:05.720 --> 01:46:09.239 Power conference. TEAM i, mean they actually have this, Kid 2100 01:46:09.359 --> 01:46:12.439 bamboye who is h starts at center and he's not. 2101 01:46:12.760 --> 01:46:15.960 Much he's very limited, offensively but the brit is he the, 2102 01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:19.039 kid but he's the second best in terms of like. 2103 01:46:19.720 --> 01:46:21.680 Rate he's the second best shot blocker in the, country 2104 01:46:21.720 --> 01:46:24.560 blocks the higher percentage of opponent shots than anybody in 2105 01:46:24.600 --> 01:46:25.399 the country except for one. 2106 01:46:25.439 --> 01:46:29.520 Person and, uh and so that's you, know that's what they're. 2107 01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:34.399 Facing but, yeah They're, yeah you worry about yegor against the, 2108 01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:39.439 defense it's, aggressive enforces. Turnovers kevin's shown that he's not you, 2109 01:46:39.520 --> 01:46:41.239 know late in the season, here he's not just gonna 2110 01:46:41.279 --> 01:46:42.720 Leave yeager out there for starters. 2111 01:46:42.760 --> 01:46:45.119 Minutes he's gonna make a switch when when they need. 2112 01:46:45.199 --> 01:46:47.680 It but, uh but it it will be a. 2113 01:46:47.720 --> 01:46:49.760 Struggle BUT I i, mean hopefully they're gonna have to 2114 01:46:50.159 --> 01:46:53.479 figure out how to make shots because there's no other 2115 01:46:53.760 --> 01:46:54.439 other way around. 2116 01:46:54.479 --> 01:46:58.520 This mainly, Threes, yeah mainly. Threes mainly. Threes. 2117 01:46:58.560 --> 01:47:00.640 There, YEAH i would say they're figure out to make 2118 01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:02.479 some threes and they're going to get fewer of those 2119 01:47:02.479 --> 01:47:03.359 shots than they normally. 2120 01:47:03.479 --> 01:47:05.520 Do SO i mean that's, why you, know that's why 2121 01:47:06.439 --> 01:47:07.239 you're just talking about. 2122 01:47:07.279 --> 01:47:08.399 IT i mean you can kind of figure out why 2123 01:47:08.399 --> 01:47:11.039 the margin heres is so thin that they don't have, 2124 01:47:11.159 --> 01:47:13.439 to you, know go eighteen of thirty six from. Three 2125 01:47:13.840 --> 01:47:16.520 but if they go you, know at the dude nine 2126 01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:18.399 of twenty four or something like, that that would be really. 2127 01:47:18.439 --> 01:47:22.399 Helpful so if they advance PAST, vcu they're most likely 2128 01:47:22.479 --> 01:47:25.119 going to run Into wisconsin round two they get to 2129 01:47:25.159 --> 01:47:25.520 the sweet. 2130 01:47:25.560 --> 01:47:26.920 Sixteen what are your thoughts on that? 2131 01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:30.720 Matchup, Well, wisconsin this is not kind of your Typical 2132 01:47:30.800 --> 01:47:32.880 wisconsin team of the last twenty five. 2133 01:47:32.960 --> 01:47:35.560 Years you, Know Greg guard has really modernized their. 2134 01:47:35.640 --> 01:47:38.159 Offense they play at a much faster, pace actually faster 2135 01:47:38.319 --> 01:47:43.399 than average pace across college. Basketball so you know that 2136 01:47:43.560 --> 01:47:45.119 this is not a Bow ryan team that's going to 2137 01:47:45.159 --> 01:47:47.000 grind a game down to fifty five sixty. 2138 01:47:47.039 --> 01:47:48.880 Possessions they're going to play normal. 2139 01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:52.640 Basketball they two love to shoot the, three top twenty 2140 01:47:52.680 --> 01:47:55.760 in terms of three point. Rate they're not necessarily a 2141 01:47:55.880 --> 01:47:58.239 great team in terms of percent. Percentage but they're going 2142 01:47:58.319 --> 01:48:01.199 to have five guys out there at that shoot. Three 2143 01:48:01.319 --> 01:48:04.039 they're gonna you, know they're they're. Big stephen kraw is 2144 01:48:04.520 --> 01:48:06.800 a guy that can shoot plenty of threes and try 2145 01:48:06.840 --> 01:48:10.760 to you, know invert the offense and Enforce kVA cato 2146 01:48:10.880 --> 01:48:13.319 Or fos or whoever it is to you, know play 2147 01:48:13.359 --> 01:48:16.840 some defense on the. Perimeter so that's the challenge that 2148 01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:20.479 that by you would face in the second. Round it's you, 2149 01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:22.920 Know wisconsin went thirteen and seven In Big ten, play 2150 01:48:22.960 --> 01:48:25.079 which doesn't necessarily sound, great but The Big ten was 2151 01:48:25.119 --> 01:48:27.640 really good this, year And wisconsin did make The Big ten, 2152 01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:32.399 finals so it's a it's a very, solid solid team 2153 01:48:32.439 --> 01:48:34.640 and it's only a step up FROM. Bcu before we. 2154 01:48:34.680 --> 01:48:37.079 Catch a, break we're gonna get Into ken's bracket coming up, 2155 01:48:37.159 --> 01:48:38.920 next which is sitting across from. 2156 01:48:38.960 --> 01:48:40.920 Me are you gonna take that with? You do you 2157 01:48:40.960 --> 01:48:41.560 want to just leave it? 2158 01:48:41.720 --> 01:48:43.920 Behind And i'm gonna, actually after this because this is 2159 01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:46.560 really my last media appearance of this, Week i'm going 2160 01:48:46.600 --> 01:48:47.760 to crumple it up and throw it in the. 2161 01:48:47.800 --> 01:48:49.520 Trash will you let me crumple it up and throw 2162 01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:50.720 it in the trash if you? Want do you want the, 2163 01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:51.279 honor you can have. 2164 01:48:51.359 --> 01:48:53.520 It, okay fair, enough so let's move. On we Referenced 2165 01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:56.039 Ryan otam used to Coach Utah. State Jared calhoun is 2166 01:48:56.079 --> 01:48:58.359 their coach, now and they're back in THE Ncaa tournament 2167 01:48:58.520 --> 01:49:02.560 again and they're going to get A ucla team that 2168 01:49:02.840 --> 01:49:03.159 on the. 2169 01:49:03.439 --> 01:49:06.800 Season you, know they had to win At, oregon they Beat. 2170 01:49:06.840 --> 01:49:11.600 Gonzaga they lost four or five during conference play when 2171 01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:13.680 they got, rolling but they do have a win Against Michigan. 2172 01:49:13.800 --> 01:49:14.800 State they've got to win Over. 2173 01:49:14.880 --> 01:49:18.319 Wisconsin and it's weird to SAY ucla out of The 2174 01:49:18.399 --> 01:49:21.439 big Ten, ken but here we. Are Utah state's a 2175 01:49:21.479 --> 01:49:24.960 five point five point. Dog tell us about this, Matchup, well. 2176 01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:28.800 IT'S ucla is actually quite similar TO. VCU i, mean you, 2177 01:49:28.840 --> 01:49:32.119 know typical kind Of mick Cron an outfit. Here dependent 2178 01:49:32.359 --> 01:49:36.399 somewhat on. Defense they force a lot of. Turnovers it's 2179 01:49:36.439 --> 01:49:38.640 actually number one in kind of an obscure stat but 2180 01:49:38.720 --> 01:49:42.439 it's a non steel turnover, percentage which essentially means they 2181 01:49:42.520 --> 01:49:43.079 like to take a lot of. 2182 01:49:43.159 --> 01:49:46.399 Charges so that's something to watch for in this. 2183 01:49:46.560 --> 01:49:50.560 Game they do force opponents to take more threes than, 2184 01:49:50.640 --> 01:49:54.279 usual which could work In Utah states favor but overall 2185 01:49:54.479 --> 01:49:56.159 it's been kind of an up and down year for The. 2186 01:49:56.199 --> 01:49:59.520 Bruins never really got a whole lot of. Consistency did 2187 01:49:59.560 --> 01:50:01.159 win seven in a row in the middle Of Big ten, 2188 01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:03.840 play but struggled a little more down the, stretch got 2189 01:50:03.920 --> 01:50:07.760 bounced pretty emphatically By wisconsin in The Big ten, tournament 2190 01:50:08.119 --> 01:50:09.840 and so that's kind of the. 2191 01:50:09.920 --> 01:50:12.199 Story so it's you, know you're. 2192 01:50:12.079 --> 01:50:14.479 Facing a team that's not necessarily doesn't have the firepower 2193 01:50:14.560 --> 01:50:17.560 necessarily to run away from you, offensively but that defense 2194 01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:18.680 is going to Give Utah states in. 2195 01:50:18.720 --> 01:50:23.479 Trouble Lazaar's stafonovich former you A Ucla bruin for a 2196 01:50:23.560 --> 01:50:25.600 little bit of a local. Tie we'll catch quick. Break 2197 01:50:25.640 --> 01:50:29.319 coming up, next The Ken Pomeroy. Bracket, okay so if 2198 01:50:29.359 --> 01:50:30.840 you don't know what you're, doing you're about to fill 2199 01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:33.159 out a. Bracket ken's going to help you. Out ken 2200 01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:35.520 stops by today courtesy of our friends At Burt. Brothers 2201 01:50:36.079 --> 01:50:39.119 with over thirty years of experience in nearly thirty, Locations Burt, 2202 01:50:39.159 --> 01:50:44.000 brothers as Certified, technicians bring expertise and professionalism to every 2203 01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:47.800 interaction industry leading warranties and low price tied. Guarantees it's 2204 01:50:47.840 --> 01:50:50.760 a one stop shop for reliable repairs and, maintenance from 2205 01:50:50.880 --> 01:50:53.239 tires and alignments to fluids and, breaks offering a full 2206 01:50:53.359 --> 01:50:56.279 range of automotive services tailored to meet your. 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Decades Burt brothers doing it better since day. 2215 01:51:18.359 --> 01:51:21.439 One more information can be found online At Burt brothers dot. 2216 01:51:21.520 --> 01:51:24.520 Com Ken palm himself live in studio for another big 2217 01:51:24.560 --> 01:51:27.479 segment coming up next right here ON espn seven, Hundred. 2218 01:51:30.399 --> 01:51:31.319 We've Got Ken. 2219 01:51:31.279 --> 01:51:35.439 Pomeroy live in studio for one more big, segments and 2220 01:51:36.119 --> 01:51:41.119 it is. Time it is time for The Ken pomeroy brackets. Reveal, 2221 01:51:41.920 --> 01:51:45.039 KEN i will not go game by game by. GAME 2222 01:51:45.159 --> 01:51:47.560 i will not do that to. You, okay we can 2223 01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:50.439 do WHATEVER i, mean that's one of my favorite radio. Bits, wait, 2224 01:51:50.479 --> 01:51:51.680 wait are you willing to go game by? 2225 01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:53.880 GAME i, mean if you want to hear a bunch 2226 01:51:53.880 --> 01:51:55.199 of radios turn? Off, yeah we can do. 2227 01:51:55.279 --> 01:51:57.640 That, no, no, No first of, All Frank, laydon WHEN 2228 01:51:57.640 --> 01:51:59.319 i got into this, business he gave me some great. 2229 01:51:59.319 --> 01:52:02.079 Advice he, said just remember nobody's. 2230 01:52:02.159 --> 01:52:02.479 Listening. 2231 01:52:02.880 --> 01:52:05.880 Okay So i'm, like, thanks. Coach so the radio is 2232 01:52:05.920 --> 01:52:07.520 probably have turned. Off but, look it's that time of. 2233 01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:12.159 Year THE Ncaa tournament starts, tomorrow so let's let's let's 2234 01:52:12.159 --> 01:52:12.520 dig into. 2235 01:52:12.520 --> 01:52:13.600 It let's start in The south. 2236 01:52:13.720 --> 01:52:15.720 Region let's start in The south and we'll kind of 2237 01:52:15.760 --> 01:52:18.840 jump around a little bit where you reference To auburn 2238 01:52:19.039 --> 01:52:21.960 as the most potentially vulnerable number one, seed but they 2239 01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:26.199 are technically the number one overall. Seed SO i would 2240 01:52:26.239 --> 01:52:30.880 imagine you Have auburn And louisville, advancing, right those. Two that's, correct, Yep, 2241 01:52:31.039 --> 01:52:33.479 okay so let's jump to the next. Round who do 2242 01:52:33.520 --> 01:52:34.960 you have winning out Of auburn And. 2243 01:52:35.039 --> 01:52:37.840 Louisville i'm going With. Louisville's, yeah we're gonna take A 2244 01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:40.760 we're gonna take a chance. Here nothing more boring than 2245 01:52:40.800 --> 01:52:43.720 the chalk. Bracket, RIGHT i. Agree, so uh SO i 2246 01:52:43.880 --> 01:52:45.720 like to have a, little you, know a little spice to, 2247 01:52:45.840 --> 01:52:48.439 it and uh yeah it get spop For. LOUISVILLE i really, 2248 01:52:48.520 --> 01:52:52.119 think you, know the conference narrative gets overplayed as we 2249 01:52:52.239 --> 01:52:56.479 get into the tournament and uh my bracket is is 2250 01:52:56.600 --> 01:52:59.800 fading THE sec and step one here is Knocking auburn 2251 01:52:59.840 --> 01:53:00.640 out in the second. 2252 01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:03.640 Round, okay so there you, go upset number one on 2253 01:53:03.880 --> 01:53:07.920 The Ken palm. Bracket auburn advances Past Alabama, State louisville 2254 01:53:07.960 --> 01:53:11.000 advances Past, creighton and Then louisville Beats. 2255 01:53:11.039 --> 01:53:12.760 Auburn let's move down five. 2256 01:53:12.960 --> 01:53:16.880 Twelve there's always weird five twelve Upsets, MICHIGAN, Uc San, 2257 01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:19.520 diego then below Them TEXAS a AND M. 2258 01:53:19.800 --> 01:53:22.079 Yale how do you have those matchups playing? Out we're 2259 01:53:22.119 --> 01:53:25.159 going with the favorites in those. Games you See San 2260 01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:30.000 diego a popular upset pick, Here michigan not a huge 2261 01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:32.399 favorite in this game will be a tough win for The, 2262 01:53:32.439 --> 01:53:34.800 wolverines BUT i think they get it. Done and then 2263 01:53:35.239 --> 01:53:39.000 we'll go WITH a and m over the ivy leaguers From, 2264 01:53:39.079 --> 01:53:41.640 yale who obviously pulled off a huge upset last year 2265 01:53:41.680 --> 01:53:43.239 and Beating auburn BUT i don't think they can do 2266 01:53:43.239 --> 01:53:43.760 it two years in a. 2267 01:53:43.800 --> 01:53:45.159 ROW i was going to ask you who The nerds 2268 01:53:45.199 --> 01:53:45.680 beat last. 2269 01:53:45.720 --> 01:53:46.079 Year it Was. 2270 01:53:46.119 --> 01:53:48.279 Auburn that's, Right yale Beat. Auburn So TEXAS a AND 2271 01:53:48.479 --> 01:53:51.000 M michigan. Advance who do you have advancing out of that? 2272 01:53:51.159 --> 01:53:52.920 GAME i am going to go With. 2273 01:53:53.159 --> 01:53:57.119 Michigan, YEAH a And m's point Guard Wade taylor shoots 2274 01:53:57.159 --> 01:53:59.560 like thirty nine percent on two pointers or something like. 2275 01:53:59.600 --> 01:54:05.239 That not an ideal situation for key buckets down the. 2276 01:54:05.239 --> 01:54:07.800 Stretch so, yeah we're going With michigan and that. One 2277 01:54:07.880 --> 01:54:11.840 dusty may obviously past experience getting to a final fourth Forward. 2278 01:54:11.880 --> 01:54:16.439 Atlantic, Okay, okay moving down, Now Old, miss we'll welcome In. 2279 01:54:16.600 --> 01:54:20.039 Carolina After carolina curb STOMPED sdsu last. 2280 01:54:20.119 --> 01:54:21.520 Night what do you think of this? 2281 01:54:21.600 --> 01:54:25.640 Matchup Old Miss? Carolina, yeah we're Going. Carolina they're, upset 2282 01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:29.039 they're mad at The. Worlds they properly. Motivated i'm not 2283 01:54:29.119 --> 01:54:31.800 Sure Old miss carries that same motivation, here although they 2284 01:54:31.840 --> 01:54:35.079 are a fine team out of THE. Sec But, carolina, 2285 01:54:35.279 --> 01:54:38.279 REALLY i mean down the. Stretch you, know last three 2286 01:54:38.720 --> 01:54:42.439 weeks of the season was playing quite. Well they, WERE 2287 01:54:42.560 --> 01:54:44.359 i mean the acc is week, sure but they were 2288 01:54:45.600 --> 01:54:49.359 beating their opponents fairly, easily and then of course The 2289 01:54:49.439 --> 01:54:52.920 duke loss extremely close and an unfortunate ending. There, SO i, 2290 01:54:52.960 --> 01:54:55.159 Mean carolina really is playing much better than an eleven 2291 01:54:55.199 --> 01:54:55.560 seed at this? 2292 01:54:55.600 --> 01:54:58.840 Point AM i remembering The Iowa state? 2293 01:54:59.199 --> 01:55:03.720 Upset drake Was drake a fourteen seed that Upset Iowa 2294 01:55:03.800 --> 01:55:05.560 state WHEN i Was stay was a three seed back 2295 01:55:05.600 --> 01:55:05.720 in the. 2296 01:55:05.800 --> 01:55:06.840 Day is that ringing a bell to. 2297 01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:10.479 You it's not ringing a bell to, me, okay but, 2298 01:55:10.560 --> 01:55:12.680 anyway definitely could have happened once upon a. 2299 01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:15.000 Time Iowa state is a three seed this, year b 2300 01:55:15.119 --> 01:55:17.399 why you beat them? Twice of, Course iowa stayed out 2301 01:55:17.399 --> 01:55:20.079 of The big, twelve. LIPSCUM i know nothing about who 2302 01:55:20.119 --> 01:55:24.159 wins this. GAME i just want to report On Iowa state. Upsets, First, 2303 01:55:24.680 --> 01:55:26.840 okay in two thousand and, one they lost as a two. 2304 01:55:26.920 --> 01:55:31.640 Seed is that prior to the to the Infamous drake 2305 01:55:31.720 --> 01:55:32.520 loss that we're talking. 2306 01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:34.760 About i'm not. Sure maybe who? Did they lost To. 2307 01:55:34.840 --> 01:55:39.159 Hampton Hampton Craig Bowler jack called that, game, okay, Okay, yeah. 2308 01:55:39.079 --> 01:55:40.920 The coach like ran off the court and like that 2309 01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:45.439 one of their players like raise them. Over it seems 2310 01:55:45.439 --> 01:55:49.119 to be the most famous first round, loss and Then 2311 01:55:49.960 --> 01:55:52.199 Fred hoiberg lost as a three seed TO UA. 2312 01:55:52.319 --> 01:55:52.680 B so. 2313 01:55:54.279 --> 01:55:57.840 Some some pretty ugly first round losses, there AND i 2314 01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:00.359 was stayed as the team is really banged, up got some. 2315 01:56:00.479 --> 01:56:04.439 Injuries Taman, lipsey their starting point guard and defensive, pest 2316 01:56:04.680 --> 01:56:08.239 did not play in The big twelve, tournament but allegedly 2317 01:56:08.319 --> 01:56:08.960 we'll be back for this. 2318 01:56:09.079 --> 01:56:11.319 One Keishawn gilbert did not play as. Well he is 2319 01:56:11.439 --> 01:56:12.039 not back for this. 2320 01:56:12.159 --> 01:56:14.039 ONE i do think they have enough to get By, 2321 01:56:14.159 --> 01:56:16.800 lipscomb AND i do think they have enough to get BY. 2322 01:56:16.840 --> 01:56:20.479 Unc so you'll Take iwish stay Beating. Carolina, Right, well 2323 01:56:20.479 --> 01:56:22.159 we'll say the run For carolina comes to an. End, 2324 01:56:22.199 --> 01:56:22.760 okay there you. 2325 01:56:22.840 --> 01:56:26.439 Go marquette seven seed taking On New mexico out of 2326 01:56:26.439 --> 01:56:29.159 The Mountain. West and you've you're on the record about 2327 01:56:29.239 --> 01:56:31.760 The Mountain west failures in THE ncaa. Tournament Does New 2328 01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:33.079 mexican have a shot of the upset? 2329 01:56:33.119 --> 01:56:35.800 HERE i mean they have a, shot But marquette here 2330 01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:36.880 the clear. 2331 01:56:36.960 --> 01:56:39.399 Favorite and, yeah it's just you, know when you see 2332 01:56:39.439 --> 01:56:41.880 A Mountain west team at this, point you really better 2333 01:56:41.960 --> 01:56:45.760 have a good reason to take. Them marquette a disappointing. 2334 01:56:45.840 --> 01:56:47.680 YEAR a lot of people thought they might be something 2335 01:56:47.720 --> 01:56:51.039 like a top ten. Team never really quite. Materialized But 2336 01:56:51.239 --> 01:56:55.560 Cam jones has been outstanding number seven in The kenpalm 2337 01:56:55.680 --> 01:56:56.760 dot Com player of The year. 2338 01:56:56.880 --> 01:57:00.920 Ratings he's their go to guy and senior and a. 2339 01:57:01.039 --> 01:57:04.640 Leader And i'm gonna throw all the cliches here as 2340 01:57:04.720 --> 01:57:06.560 the Y marquette wins this. Game who was the? 2341 01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:09.159 Player Was Cooper flag the Ken Pom player of the. 2342 01:57:09.239 --> 01:57:10.239 Year he. 2343 01:57:11.439 --> 01:57:13.680 Is here's the thing about The Ken Pom player of The. 2344 01:57:13.760 --> 01:57:15.159 Year on like all the Other player of The year, 2345 01:57:15.159 --> 01:57:18.720 awards we also include THE ncaa, tournament so we really 2346 01:57:18.800 --> 01:57:20.199 haven't crowned the player of the year. 2347 01:57:20.279 --> 01:57:24.039 Yet If Cooper flagg is able to, play he'll get. 2348 01:57:24.079 --> 01:57:26.960 It but if he for some reason doesn't, Play jannibroom obviously, 2349 01:57:27.039 --> 01:57:30.159 second And auburn has a deep, run it's still possible 2350 01:57:30.199 --> 01:57:31.239 For Janny broom to overtake. 2351 01:57:31.279 --> 01:57:35.319 Him Michigan State bryant right as they, say what do they? 2352 01:57:35.399 --> 01:57:37.119 Say death taxes and Izzohen? 2353 01:57:37.199 --> 01:57:39.239 March is that the? Deal so what's kind of the? 2354 01:57:39.319 --> 01:57:40.399 Deal two? Fifteen what do you? 2355 01:57:40.479 --> 01:57:44.319 MAKE i mean not he's not a bulletproof in In 2356 01:57:45.079 --> 01:57:48.439 march and he lost a first four game TO ucla 2357 01:57:48.520 --> 01:57:51.199 in twenty, one been knocked out of the second round 2358 01:57:51.279 --> 01:57:53.560 and the second round to the last three. Years but 2359 01:57:53.760 --> 01:57:56.760 this is certainly one of his better teams PROBABLY i don't, 2360 01:57:56.760 --> 01:57:59.000 know going, since going back at least to THE covid 2361 01:57:59.079 --> 01:58:02.880 year or maybe the year. Before, yeah this is a 2362 01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:07.039 Legit final four. Threat they have been getting better as 2363 01:58:07.119 --> 01:58:10.640 the year goes. On finish the season pretty strong by 2364 01:58:10.680 --> 01:58:12.760 winning seven in a row at the end of the regular. 2365 01:58:12.880 --> 01:58:16.840 Season And Jace richardson the name to watch. Here some 2366 01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:22.000 of Of Jason richardson FORMER nba, player but he's a 2367 01:58:22.039 --> 01:58:24.479 freshman who's played really, well much better down the stretch 2368 01:58:24.479 --> 01:58:25.880 and he did in the first half of the. Season so, 2369 01:58:26.800 --> 01:58:29.399 yeah team to watch Playing bryant who is coached By 2370 01:58:29.640 --> 01:58:34.640 Phil Martelli. Junior good, knowledge there you. Go Jason richardson 2371 01:58:34.720 --> 01:58:37.359 has a college age. Kid like WHEN i heard The boozer, twins, 2372 01:58:37.479 --> 01:58:39.479 like it just makes you feel really really. 2373 01:58:39.560 --> 01:58:40.960 Old yeah. 2374 01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:42.960 EXACTLY i mean we've been we've been through that a 2375 01:58:43.039 --> 01:58:44.880 few times here the last few, years so it's kind 2376 01:58:44.920 --> 01:58:46.560 of kind of immune to that at this. 2377 01:58:46.600 --> 01:58:49.119 Point it's, true all, Right so let's finish off this 2378 01:58:49.279 --> 01:58:52.159 bracket in the sweet, sixteen you Have louisville And. 2379 01:58:52.640 --> 01:58:56.359 Michigan who wins that. Game i'm going With michigan in that. 2380 01:58:56.560 --> 01:58:59.359 Game just a little, bit a little bit stronger team 2381 01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:02.960 at this, point And louisville will not have home court 2382 01:59:03.880 --> 01:59:05.920 vibes when they get out to the second. 2383 01:59:05.960 --> 01:59:08.239 Weekend Iowa State, Michigan Michigan. 2384 01:59:08.319 --> 01:59:10.840 State excuse? Me three to two there in the sweet? 2385 01:59:10.880 --> 01:59:13.359 Sixteen who advances? Here, yeah we'll go With Michigan. State 2386 01:59:13.479 --> 01:59:15.760 it's a little, bit a little bit better. Team Iowa 2387 01:59:15.800 --> 01:59:18.560 state banged up a bit AND i think that'll be 2388 01:59:18.600 --> 01:59:21.000 the difference. There so we Have Michigan Michigan state in 2389 01:59:21.039 --> 01:59:21.399 The elite. 2390 01:59:21.439 --> 01:59:24.439 Eight yeah about? That that's pretty fun little rival. 2391 01:59:24.520 --> 01:59:30.359 Reaction we're gonna go with Tom izzo that, occurs by the, Way, 2392 01:59:30.399 --> 01:59:33.319 Spence if that, Occurs Michigan state will become the first, 2393 01:59:33.359 --> 01:59:35.760 team get, this the first team to be seated first 2394 01:59:35.840 --> 01:59:39.119 or second that was not ranked in the preseason eight. 2395 01:59:39.079 --> 01:59:41.760 P pole to make a final four of all, time 2396 01:59:41.880 --> 01:59:44.479 of all. Time that's. Wild yeah. 2397 01:59:45.199 --> 01:59:48.399 Wow, okay let's move over now to The east Where 2398 01:59:48.600 --> 01:59:51.520 duke is the number one seed and they await the 2399 01:59:51.600 --> 01:59:55.960 winner of tonight's playing. Game oh, MAN i just had 2400 01:59:56.000 --> 01:59:59.479 this coreboard. Up, Anyway Tonight's American Mount Saint Mary's american 2401 01:59:59.560 --> 02:00:02.039 wants co by former NEXT gm Ed. Tapscott there you. Go, 2402 02:00:02.119 --> 02:00:04.600 okay do we even need to discuss? This duke moves on. 2403 02:00:04.680 --> 02:00:08.479 Easily mount Say mary's coach By Donnie, lynn first year head. 2404 02:00:08.520 --> 02:00:11.760 COACH i once had breakfast with him at A panera In, Blacksburg. 2405 02:00:11.800 --> 02:00:14.039 Virginia why did you Go panero of all the? Options, 2406 02:00:14.119 --> 02:00:17.680 well it was it was on very short, notice and uh, 2407 02:00:17.840 --> 02:00:19.239 yeah it didn't have a lot of time to make it. 2408 02:00:19.319 --> 02:00:23.439 Happen but that was in like twenty. Nineteen and look 2409 02:00:23.479 --> 02:00:25.640 where he is, now Spat i'm gonna take a little. 2410 02:00:25.399 --> 02:00:25.880 Bit of credit for. 2411 02:00:25.960 --> 02:00:28.239 That, okay go to breakfast With Ken, palm you get 2412 02:00:28.279 --> 02:00:30.479 a college coaching. Job So i'm sure the breakfast was. 2413 02:00:30.520 --> 02:00:33.399 Great does he have a chance in the? Scamp not Against. Duke, 2414 02:00:33.520 --> 02:00:35.399 no he has a chance Against. AMERICAN i think he's 2415 02:00:35.399 --> 02:00:37.800 gonna pull it. Off but, Yeah duke will beat them 2416 02:00:37.880 --> 02:00:41.680 by forty two. Points For jazz fans out, there If 2417 02:00:41.800 --> 02:00:45.840 baylor advances Past Mississippi, state you will SEE. Vj edgecomb 2418 02:00:46.000 --> 02:00:49.960 take On Cooper flag two very good, prospects But Mississippi State, 2419 02:00:50.039 --> 02:00:50.840 Baylor ken who'd you? 2420 02:00:50.960 --> 02:00:52.760 Like we're gonna. 2421 02:00:53.119 --> 02:00:55.880 Close our eyes and go With baylor on that. One 2422 02:00:56.239 --> 02:00:57.119 it's a pretty even. 2423 02:00:57.199 --> 02:01:00.680 MATCHUP i think my maybe MY i guess against THE 2424 02:01:00.800 --> 02:01:05.199 sec at this point is coming into, Play baylor maybe 2425 02:01:05.279 --> 02:01:07.920 was slightly, better like higher end, talent not JUST. Vj, 2426 02:01:08.119 --> 02:01:12.880 edgecomb but nord Chado mere who previously played some meaningful 2427 02:01:13.039 --> 02:01:16.640 tournament games At. Miami he's one of their better players as. 2428 02:01:16.680 --> 02:01:17.319 Well so we'll go With. 2429 02:01:17.359 --> 02:01:21.359 Baylor five twelve out of The East region is The Oregon, 2430 02:01:21.439 --> 02:01:23.720 ducks out of The Big, ten which sounds so. Weird 2431 02:01:24.439 --> 02:01:28.439 they're taking On. Liberty liberty make this? Interesting you think they. 2432 02:01:28.479 --> 02:01:32.319 Could they've been playing well down the stretch coming out of. 2433 02:01:32.479 --> 02:01:35.479 Conference THE usa another you, know kind of mid major 2434 02:01:35.560 --> 02:01:39.079 team that has generally had success at their level and 2435 02:01:39.479 --> 02:01:41.960 made a bunch of tournaments in recent. Years and, yeah 2436 02:01:42.000 --> 02:01:44.680 it could be an interesting. Game But oregon's just kind 2437 02:01:44.680 --> 02:01:47.439 of the more talented, Team So i'm going to go with. 2438 02:01:47.479 --> 02:01:51.520 Them Arizona, akron and If arizona, wins we'll have some 2439 02:01:51.640 --> 02:01:54.720 OLD tac. Twelve but he's getting. Together of, course oregoning 2440 02:01:54.720 --> 02:01:56.319 out of The big. Ten arizona of The big twelve 2441 02:01:56.399 --> 02:01:59.279 is Wild akron thirteen, Seed arizona four. 2442 02:01:59.319 --> 02:02:01.600 Seed how do you see this one going? Down we'll 2443 02:02:01.680 --> 02:02:05.960 go With arizona in this. One did you Like Akron 2444 02:02:06.039 --> 02:02:08.840 John gross running a pretty up tempo system? There that 2445 02:02:09.239 --> 02:02:11.159 first round game should be high. SCORING i have the 2446 02:02:11.199 --> 02:02:13.520 score of. Forecast it is eighty nine to seventy, Six 2447 02:02:13.680 --> 02:02:16.680 so it might be the most high scoring game in 2448 02:02:16.760 --> 02:02:19.239 the first. Round but kind of want to See arizona 2449 02:02:19.279 --> 02:02:21.239 advance here a round or. Two they're always just never 2450 02:02:21.319 --> 02:02:22.760 know what you're going to get with. Them in a 2451 02:02:23.359 --> 02:02:26.399 team that's run By Caleb love on the, court a 2452 02:02:26.479 --> 02:02:29.600 whole lot of things could. Happen so but, yeah two 2453 02:02:29.600 --> 02:02:31.000 teams that really love to get up and down the. 2454 02:02:31.000 --> 02:02:31.199 Court. 2455 02:02:31.239 --> 02:02:33.680 There Did arizona lose in the first round last? 2456 02:02:33.760 --> 02:02:37.840 Year they lost in the second round last. YEAR i 2457 02:02:37.920 --> 02:02:39.520 want to, say did they lose in the first round 2458 02:02:39.520 --> 02:02:41.920 the year? Before they lost in the sweet sixteen last 2459 02:02:42.000 --> 02:02:42.960 year To, Clemson so. 2460 02:02:43.000 --> 02:02:44.800 It must have been the year BEFORE i picked them 2461 02:02:44.920 --> 02:02:47.039 to win the whole. Thing they lost like the first 2462 02:02:47.119 --> 02:02:49.319 or second round they lost To. Princeton, yeah that's What 2463 02:02:50.000 --> 02:02:52.520 that's what it. Was, yeah all, right that brings us 2464 02:02:53.039 --> 02:02:56.960 to the six Seeded Brigham Young cougars hailing From, Provo 2465 02:02:57.159 --> 02:02:59.920 utah taking On VCOs the eleventh. 2466 02:03:00.000 --> 02:03:02.399 Seed we've already broken this game. Down Can Kevin young 2467 02:03:02.479 --> 02:03:04.359 get it? Done, yeah you can get it. Done we'll 2468 02:03:05.079 --> 02:03:07.359 advance them on to the second. Round and you, Know 2469 02:03:07.760 --> 02:03:09.840 i'm not just saying that because there might BE byu 2470 02:03:09.920 --> 02:03:13.880 fans out. There actually kind of enjoy picking against the 2471 02:03:13.960 --> 02:03:16.279 local teams IF i. Can but but NOW i truly 2472 02:03:16.319 --> 02:03:18.720 think B yu will will take care of this one. 2473 02:03:18.760 --> 02:03:21.680 Though it is the highest rated game in terms of 2474 02:03:21.800 --> 02:03:24.840 like watchability on my site in the first. 2475 02:03:24.920 --> 02:03:27.039 Round, okay, yeah just two like good teams should be 2476 02:03:27.079 --> 02:03:27.399 a close. 2477 02:03:27.479 --> 02:03:31.239 Game so it's to, me just as someone who doesn't 2478 02:03:31.279 --> 02:03:33.520 have a stake in, This i'm really looking forward to 2479 02:03:33.560 --> 02:03:34.279 seeing how this turns. 2480 02:03:34.279 --> 02:03:37.960 Out Wisconsin montana three, Fourteen ken who we got The? 2481 02:03:38.039 --> 02:03:40.800 Griz, Really, no we're not going with oh, man that 2482 02:03:40.800 --> 02:03:42.520 would have been. Awesome it would have been. Awesome but 2483 02:03:43.159 --> 02:03:44.239 we'll go With wisconsin in this. 2484 02:03:44.319 --> 02:03:44.439 One. 2485 02:03:44.600 --> 02:03:48.520 Okay Saint mary's of course the old conference fellow bringing 2486 02:03:48.560 --> 02:03:51.399 me on seven seed taken On vanderbilt as a ten. 2487 02:03:51.479 --> 02:03:52.119 Seed who do you like? 2488 02:03:52.159 --> 02:03:52.279 Here? 2489 02:03:52.399 --> 02:03:55.119 Yeah once AGAIN i Will i'll pick against the Sec 2490 02:03:55.840 --> 02:03:58.840 Saint mary's with the eighth best defense in the, country 2491 02:03:59.640 --> 02:04:04.079 led By Augustus. Marshallonis, yes shout out To. Sarunas right 2492 02:04:04.159 --> 02:04:04.680 out out To. 2493 02:04:04.800 --> 02:04:05.439 Sirunas. 2494 02:04:06.600 --> 02:04:09.720 Yeah remember The Tai die The lithuania Tidye jerseys back 2495 02:04:09.760 --> 02:04:12.159 in the. Day all, right, absolutely, yeah all, Right So 2496 02:04:12.319 --> 02:04:16.159 Saint mary's advance is Past vandy absolutely. Yep alabama two 2497 02:04:16.279 --> 02:04:19.279 Seed Robert morris fifteen, Seed, ken you should know that 2498 02:04:19.359 --> 02:04:23.239 you are talking to A Robert morris recruit circle nineteen ninety. Six, 2499 02:04:23.399 --> 02:04:26.159 Really i've got like three letters From Robert. Morris that's. 2500 02:04:26.199 --> 02:04:28.800 Amazing that wasn't. AMAZING i, mean they're they're. Decent, now 2501 02:04:28.840 --> 02:04:30.439 it was just like a throwaway. 2502 02:04:30.720 --> 02:04:32.840 THING i wouldn't throw that. Away, well that was. 2503 02:04:32.880 --> 02:04:34.399 Kind of a LEVEL i should have tried to play 2504 02:04:34.439 --> 02:04:35.920 out instead of BELIEVING i could play it to you 2505 02:04:35.960 --> 02:04:38.960 because that didn't work. Out But alabama Two Robert morris 2506 02:04:39.000 --> 02:04:41.119 fifteen we. Got, yeah it's going to Be. Alabama but 2507 02:04:41.199 --> 02:04:43.920 shout out To Robert. Morris they back in your, DAY 2508 02:04:44.239 --> 02:04:47.000 i believe we're in The Northeast. Conference, indeed now they're 2509 02:04:47.000 --> 02:04:49.640 in The Horizon, league so you, know advanced up a 2510 02:04:49.800 --> 02:04:51.520 level and they have been up to the. 2511 02:04:51.520 --> 02:04:53.640 Task and won the league this, Year so shout out to, Them. Bud, 2512 02:04:53.760 --> 02:04:55.640 Yeah obama's the far superior outfit. 2513 02:04:55.720 --> 02:04:59.560 Here round two in The East, Seas duke And cooper 2514 02:04:59.680 --> 02:05:01.840 flat taking On baylor and Vj. 2515 02:05:02.279 --> 02:05:04.840 Edgetroum who you got, Here, KEN i Got duke winning. 2516 02:05:04.880 --> 02:05:08.119 This we're Assuming cooper's gonna be. 2517 02:05:08.239 --> 02:05:12.479 Healthy but even if, Not baylor has really struggled against 2518 02:05:12.479 --> 02:05:14.840 top flight competition this, year So duke is still gonna 2519 02:05:14.840 --> 02:05:16.159 be able To they're still gonna be able to get 2520 02:05:16.159 --> 02:05:17.560 to the second weekend if even if they don't Have 2521 02:05:17.640 --> 02:05:18.199 cooper flag this. 2522 02:05:18.279 --> 02:05:20.479 Weekend since you brought that, up do you think they 2523 02:05:20.520 --> 02:05:24.359 should even Play cooper On friday against whatever the winner 2524 02:05:24.600 --> 02:05:25.560 of this playing game. 2525 02:05:25.520 --> 02:05:27.000 Is, right it's a, yeah it's a little. 2526 02:05:27.000 --> 02:05:29.600 SUSPECT i, mean if he does, play you have to 2527 02:05:29.640 --> 02:05:32.399 think that he's like fully, healthy, Right like it's a 2528 02:05:32.399 --> 02:05:33.159 great sign if he does. 2529 02:05:33.239 --> 02:05:35.800 Play but, yeah there's really no reason to risk it 2530 02:05:36.119 --> 02:05:37.920 Against Mount Saint Mary's. 2531 02:05:37.760 --> 02:05:41.600 Oregon five Seed arizona four, seed round to two Former 2532 02:05:41.680 --> 02:05:43.359 pac twelve buddies, Here, ken who gets it? 2533 02:05:43.399 --> 02:05:49.079 Done we're gonna go with The? Wildcats were still on board. 2534 02:05:48.920 --> 02:05:51.159 With arizona just a really consistent season this year in 2535 02:05:51.159 --> 02:05:53.279 The big, twelve so we think they'll they'll get. 2536 02:05:53.119 --> 02:05:56.800 It DONE Byu advances according to our. Model here to 2537 02:05:56.920 --> 02:05:59.520 round two to take On. Wisconsin so who you Got 2538 02:05:59.680 --> 02:06:03.680 round two By? Wisconsin i'm going with The. Badgers, yeah 2539 02:06:03.880 --> 02:06:07.279 just the advantage. There you, Know wisconsin has a top 2540 02:06:07.359 --> 02:06:10.640 flight defense and bou does. Not Saint mary's seventh Seed, 2541 02:06:10.680 --> 02:06:12.600 alabama two, Seed ken who you got round? 2542 02:06:12.640 --> 02:06:15.960 To a fascinating, matchup you, know to just polar. Opposite 2543 02:06:16.039 --> 02:06:18.760 Saint mary's loves to slow it, down prevent three point, 2544 02:06:18.840 --> 02:06:23.359 shots defense, Heavy bama's speeding it up offense, heavy loves 2545 02:06:23.399 --> 02:06:26.520 to take. Threes it's gonna be a fascinating, matchup BUT 2546 02:06:26.680 --> 02:06:27.840 i do Think bama will. 2547 02:06:27.880 --> 02:06:31.880 Prevail alabama advances on all, right back up To Duke 2548 02:06:31.960 --> 02:06:36.159 arizona in the let's The sweet sixteen Matchup Duke Arizona sweet. 2549 02:06:36.159 --> 02:06:37.000 Sixteen who we Got. 2550 02:06:36.960 --> 02:06:40.279 Duke arizona and we're gonna again assume Assume Cooper flag 2551 02:06:40.439 --> 02:06:43.319 is back and if he, Is duke should have no problem. 2552 02:06:43.079 --> 02:06:47.680 Here Wisconsin Alabama sweet. Sixteen where we're Going alabama back 2553 02:06:47.760 --> 02:06:51.760 to The elite, Eight elite eight and now for the 2554 02:06:51.920 --> 02:06:54.560 final four team out of The, east the winner Of 2555 02:06:54.640 --> 02:06:55.720 Duke alabama is. 2556 02:06:56.359 --> 02:06:57.640 That's gonna be The Duke Blue. 2557 02:06:57.680 --> 02:06:59.920 Devils all, right we'll Go. Duke so we Have duke 2558 02:07:00.079 --> 02:07:02.079 out of The. East we Have Michigan state out of The. 2559 02:07:02.279 --> 02:07:05.159 South we'll move over now to The west. Region and 2560 02:07:05.279 --> 02:07:09.239 AS i referenced in our previous, segment sometimes there's a 2561 02:07:09.319 --> 02:07:11.199 year where every TIME i watch a, Team i'm, like 2562 02:07:11.279 --> 02:07:13.399 they might be the best team in basketball in college, 2563 02:07:13.439 --> 02:07:14.760 basketball that team for me Is. 2564 02:07:14.800 --> 02:07:18.439 Florida this, year we'll start With. Florida Norfolk. State, uh, 2565 02:07:18.520 --> 02:07:19.520 yeah of course that will Be. 2566 02:07:19.680 --> 02:07:22.920 Florida, okay let's just move right over to the back 2567 02:07:23.000 --> 02:07:26.039 to back national champs and a very grumpy coach on 2568 02:07:26.119 --> 02:07:27.359 the sidelines and One Dan. 2569 02:07:27.479 --> 02:07:29.680 Hurley But yukon Gets. Oklahoma where are we going? 2570 02:07:29.720 --> 02:07:29.840 Here? 2571 02:07:29.960 --> 02:07:32.319 Yeah, no, no what's talking About yukon this? Year what's the? 2572 02:07:32.399 --> 02:07:35.119 Deal they won back the back back back. Titles can 2573 02:07:35.159 --> 02:07:36.760 we give him a little little? 2574 02:07:36.760 --> 02:07:39.279 RESPECT i, mean, LOOK i mean, here you, KNOW i 2575 02:07:39.399 --> 02:07:42.920 grew up forty miles away from. Campus i'm A hurley. 2576 02:07:43.000 --> 02:07:44.920 GUY i Want yukon to. Win can they get Past? 2577 02:07:45.000 --> 02:07:46.159 Oklahoma they can get Past? 2578 02:07:46.239 --> 02:07:50.479 Oklahoma, Yeah so it has been a down year for The, 2579 02:07:50.600 --> 02:07:53.560 huskies Or Danny hurley missed on missed on some, transfers 2580 02:07:53.640 --> 02:07:55.880 and Freshman leam McNeely is kind of the leader of 2581 02:07:55.920 --> 02:07:58.760 the team and he's been pretty. Inefficient but they do 2582 02:07:58.880 --> 02:08:02.039 have enough to get By Oklahoma memphis five, Seed Colorado 2583 02:08:02.119 --> 02:08:06.479 state twelve. Seed will The Mountain West conference hate ken 2584 02:08:07.119 --> 02:08:09.600 manifest itself in this, matchup or you Think Colorado state. 2585 02:08:09.479 --> 02:08:09.800 Can get it. 2586 02:08:09.840 --> 02:08:13.000 Done we will go With Colorado. State they're ACTUALLY i 2587 02:08:13.039 --> 02:08:14.960 think a slight favorite even In. Vegas it's not even 2588 02:08:15.079 --> 02:08:17.279 like necessarily going on a limb, here but they have 2589 02:08:17.359 --> 02:08:18.800 been playing so well down the. 2590 02:08:18.840 --> 02:08:21.880 Stretch Nie, clifford player to, remember. 2591 02:08:22.359 --> 02:08:24.840 Has not appeared on any All american teams have been 2592 02:08:24.880 --> 02:08:27.680 released the last couple of, days presumably because people make 2593 02:08:27.720 --> 02:08:29.720 up their mind about like two months before the. Deadline, 2594 02:08:29.760 --> 02:08:32.039 yeah but he has been awesome down the stretch and 2595 02:08:32.159 --> 02:08:33.920 certainly one of the ten best players in the. 2596 02:08:33.960 --> 02:08:37.159 Country So Dan marley once upon a time was the 2597 02:08:37.199 --> 02:08:39.560 head coach At Grand, canyon, right that's. Correct, now for some, 2598 02:08:39.720 --> 02:08:41.640 REASON i didn't follow the news cycle AND i just 2599 02:08:41.680 --> 02:08:43.479 thought he was the head coach until like a few months. 2600 02:08:43.520 --> 02:08:46.520 Ago he very much is not But Grand canyon thirteen, 2601 02:08:46.600 --> 02:08:48.039 Seed maryland as a four. 2602 02:08:48.159 --> 02:08:48.880 Seed who we got? 2603 02:08:48.960 --> 02:08:51.359 Here we Have Bryce drew as the head, Coach Ran 2604 02:08:51.479 --> 02:08:55.199 cannon don't Forget valpo ninety eight tournament, hero but it 2605 02:08:55.239 --> 02:08:58.159 will Be. Maryland maryland one of those underseeded teams as 2606 02:08:58.199 --> 02:09:02.439 a four. Seed really tempting to pick them to come 2607 02:09:02.479 --> 02:09:03.760 out of this. REGION i don't want to spoil, it. 2608 02:09:03.800 --> 02:09:07.119 But they do win this. Game Is Kendrick lamar the? 2609 02:09:07.159 --> 02:09:07.560 Tournament? 2610 02:09:07.720 --> 02:09:10.079 No But drake is see WHAT i did their kids 2611 02:09:10.159 --> 02:09:13.439 pop culture. Reference let's move over To Missouri drake six 2612 02:09:13.479 --> 02:09:13.880 to eleven. 2613 02:09:13.960 --> 02:09:17.000 Seed drake plays at the slowest base in the, Country 2614 02:09:17.119 --> 02:09:19.199 so this is not a game THAT i would recommend 2615 02:09:19.399 --> 02:09:22.000 tuning in for unless you have money on it or. 2616 02:09:22.039 --> 02:09:28.800 Something BUT i will Squeak missouri By. Drake but this 2617 02:09:28.960 --> 02:09:31.359 is going to be a real grind and a close. 2618 02:09:31.399 --> 02:09:35.039 One another big twelve, Team Texas TECH Unc wilmington is 2619 02:09:35.079 --> 02:09:35.640 the fourteen. 2620 02:09:35.760 --> 02:09:38.000 Seed three to Fourteen, Ken what's what happens? Here? 2621 02:09:38.159 --> 02:09:40.600 Yeah Texas tech has been outstanding all, year number seven 2622 02:09:40.640 --> 02:09:43.720 in my ratings and never seems to get the. Respect 2623 02:09:45.039 --> 02:09:47.880 they do have some injury, issues a little banged up 2624 02:09:47.920 --> 02:09:50.159 at a couple of starting, positions but they will get 2625 02:09:50.199 --> 02:09:54.239 by you and see well LinkedIn number Seven, kansas number Ten, 2626 02:09:54.399 --> 02:09:57.600 Arkansas Little bill, Self John calipari action round. 2627 02:09:57.680 --> 02:09:59.079 One, wow what have you got? 2628 02:09:59.119 --> 02:10:01.520 Here else is not a uh, yeah this is not 2629 02:10:01.720 --> 02:10:04.640 like when was it two thousand and eight two eight title? 2630 02:10:04.680 --> 02:10:06.279 Game Memphis? Kansas? 2631 02:10:06.359 --> 02:10:11.880 Right so, yeah not quite on that. Level we will, 2632 02:10:12.399 --> 02:10:14.800 Again we'll go With. Kansas but these this is a 2633 02:10:14.920 --> 02:10:18.159 game that looks like it'd be looks like it'd be 2634 02:10:18.159 --> 02:10:19.840 a great one to, watch but it's just really much 2635 02:10:19.880 --> 02:10:21.479 weaker versions than these coaches are used to. 2636 02:10:21.560 --> 02:10:25.960 Coaching Rick patino has taken The johnnies back to. PROMINENCE 2637 02:10:26.000 --> 02:10:28.000 i was once upon a time A Saint john's, fan 2638 02:10:28.119 --> 02:10:30.159 back in the Old Big east days With Chris mollan and. 2639 02:10:30.279 --> 02:10:33.119 Such omaha the fifteen seed didn't do, it. 2640 02:10:33.159 --> 02:10:35.159 Didn't mean to do A Peyton manning impersonation, There But 2641 02:10:35.600 --> 02:10:37.159 Saint john's Two omaha. 2642 02:10:37.399 --> 02:10:41.640 Fifteen what happens? Here Saint john's has the best defense 2643 02:10:41.680 --> 02:10:44.600 in the. Country they've lost their four games by a 2644 02:10:44.640 --> 02:10:48.880 combined seven. Points nobody in college basketball has lost their 2645 02:10:48.920 --> 02:10:50.840 games by fewer. Points, Now Saint john' didn't play a 2646 02:10:50.840 --> 02:10:54.600 super difficult non conference, schedule but, nonetheless this team's legit 2647 02:10:54.800 --> 02:10:55.560 and they. 2648 02:10:55.640 --> 02:10:58.159 Will they will Beat omaha round of thirty two out 2649 02:10:58.199 --> 02:10:58.319 of The. 2650 02:10:58.359 --> 02:11:00.319 West according to the model that we have in front of, 2651 02:11:00.399 --> 02:11:02.239 Us florida yukon round. 2652 02:11:02.279 --> 02:11:05.439 Two what happens, Here florida will put an end to 2653 02:11:05.479 --> 02:11:06.720 the dream For Dan. 2654 02:11:06.840 --> 02:11:10.439 Hurley Can Colorado state keep The cinderella run going against 2655 02:11:10.479 --> 02:11:11.880 the number four Seed Maryland. 2656 02:11:11.920 --> 02:11:14.239 TURPINS i think in a different circumstance they. 2657 02:11:14.239 --> 02:11:16.960 Could But maryland is just a really solid team and 2658 02:11:17.199 --> 02:11:19.000 it definitely plays better than that four, seed so they'll 2659 02:11:19.000 --> 02:11:19.279 get by. 2660 02:11:19.359 --> 02:11:21.960 Him missouri sixth, Seed Texas tech three. Seed do we got? 2661 02:11:22.039 --> 02:11:26.279 Here we will go with The Red Raiders Kansas Saint 2662 02:11:26.399 --> 02:11:30.840 John's bill, Self Rick patino another heavyweight. Matchup it'll Be 2663 02:11:30.920 --> 02:11:34.520 Saint john's, Here, Okay Florida maryland for the right to 2664 02:11:34.560 --> 02:11:35.199 go to The elite. 2665 02:11:35.239 --> 02:11:39.039 Eight we'll Put florida in The ELITE. A but do 2666 02:11:39.279 --> 02:11:41.399 not if you want to Pig. Maryland there not a bad. 2667 02:11:41.479 --> 02:11:44.119 Idea Texas Tech Saint john's at the bottom of the. 2668 02:11:44.159 --> 02:11:47.399 Practice we'll go With Texas tech to upset the offensively 2669 02:11:47.560 --> 02:11:48.800 Challenge Red storm. 2670 02:11:48.760 --> 02:11:51.039 Okay and going to the final. Four out of The 2671 02:11:51.119 --> 02:11:53.760 west Region Florida Texas. Tech have we got it will 2672 02:11:53.800 --> 02:11:56.960 Be Texas tech wow or upset. Special there we. 2673 02:11:57.079 --> 02:11:57.960 GO i was waiting for. 2674 02:11:58.159 --> 02:11:58.640 One there we. 2675 02:11:58.720 --> 02:12:02.359 Go so so far we Have Michigan state out of The, 2676 02:12:02.560 --> 02:12:05.039 south we Have duke out of The, east and we 2677 02:12:05.159 --> 02:12:07.119 Have Texas tech now out of The. West our final 2678 02:12:07.239 --> 02:12:11.079 bracket portion of the racket will be The. Midwest any 2679 02:12:11.159 --> 02:12:14.640 intrigue with The Houston cougars round one or no Intrigue 2680 02:12:15.840 --> 02:12:17.640 Gonzaga georgia round. 2681 02:12:17.720 --> 02:12:19.960 One gonzaga will pull that. 2682 02:12:20.119 --> 02:12:20.720 Out all? 2683 02:12:20.800 --> 02:12:21.199 Right all? 2684 02:12:21.279 --> 02:12:24.520 Right we do not have a five to twelve upset so? 2685 02:12:24.720 --> 02:12:26.920 Far do we have one With clemson and. McNeice we 2686 02:12:27.000 --> 02:12:29.720 actually do Spence Colorado state Over. MEMPHIS i bet. Yeah 2687 02:12:30.039 --> 02:12:31.960 we do not have it With clemson over. McNeese Will 2688 02:12:32.000 --> 02:12:34.760 wade is already thinking about his next, job which appears 2689 02:12:34.760 --> 02:12:37.560 to BE Nc, State So clemson will capitalize in that. 2690 02:12:37.640 --> 02:12:40.560 DISTRACTION i win that game perdue four seed High. Points, 2691 02:12:41.039 --> 02:12:42.680 yeah as your thirteen seed we. 2692 02:12:42.680 --> 02:12:44.920 Got we will go with High. Point they are the out. 2693 02:12:45.079 --> 02:12:47.199 Number they are the top team in terms of their 2694 02:12:47.319 --> 02:12:51.560 dependence on offense in this, tournament And i'm a sucker for. 2695 02:12:51.720 --> 02:12:53.720 Offense they have the twenty fifth best offense in the. 2696 02:12:53.760 --> 02:12:55.760 Country don't ask me what their defense is. Ranked it's very, 2697 02:12:55.800 --> 02:12:57.439 bad but their offense is really. 2698 02:12:57.479 --> 02:13:00.159 Good, Okay illinois sixth seed will await the wain of 2699 02:13:00.199 --> 02:13:01.680 Tonight's Texas xavier. 2700 02:13:01.920 --> 02:13:04.960 Matchup does it? MATTER i don't think. SO i, mean, 2701 02:13:05.319 --> 02:13:05.840 YEAH i don't think. 2702 02:13:05.880 --> 02:13:06.520 So i'll go To. 2703 02:13:06.600 --> 02:13:10.399 Illinois kentucky shout Out Mark, pope FORMER byu. Coach they 2704 02:13:10.479 --> 02:13:12.279 take On troy as a fourteen. 2705 02:13:12.359 --> 02:13:13.159 Seed what goes down? 2706 02:13:13.199 --> 02:13:15.680 Here, YEAH i Think Mark pope has gotten more out 2707 02:13:15.680 --> 02:13:18.760 Of kentucky than you could have. Expected they, are Like Texas, 2708 02:13:18.800 --> 02:13:20.760 tech a little banged up heading into the tournament, here 2709 02:13:20.840 --> 02:13:22.039 but they'll obviously they'll get By. 2710 02:13:22.119 --> 02:13:26.640 TROY Ucla Utah state local. GAME ucla a five point 2711 02:13:26.720 --> 02:13:27.119 five point. 2712 02:13:27.199 --> 02:13:28.920 Favorite do The bruins get by THE AGGI i, Mean 2713 02:13:28.960 --> 02:13:31.079 i'd love to see The aggies do, it but it's 2714 02:13:31.159 --> 02:13:31.680 hard for me to. 2715 02:13:31.800 --> 02:13:34.720 Envision them getting by. This THIS ucla team. 2716 02:13:34.640 --> 02:13:38.880 Two Fifteen Tennessee, Wafford tennessee get this done pretty. Easily, Yes, 2717 02:13:39.119 --> 02:13:41.439 okay all, right let's head back up. 2718 02:13:41.520 --> 02:13:41.960 Now round. 2719 02:13:42.000 --> 02:13:45.119 Two Houston, gonzaga who you got, here should be a 2720 02:13:45.239 --> 02:13:47.479 great one in the second. Round houston has just been 2721 02:13:47.760 --> 02:13:48.359 so good this. 2722 02:13:48.520 --> 02:13:51.600 Year they've lost four Games spence and only one of 2723 02:13:51.640 --> 02:13:53.640 those was in, regulation so they've only been hot scored 2724 02:13:53.640 --> 02:13:54.600 in regulation one time all. 2725 02:13:54.680 --> 02:13:58.119 Year they've just been so. Good so, YEAH i think 2726 02:13:58.119 --> 02:13:59.319 we'll get Back gonzaga. 2727 02:13:59.199 --> 02:14:03.159 Five teen high point gets By. Purdue do they get By? 2728 02:14:03.239 --> 02:14:05.880 Clemson they do? Not Brad Brown now back to The sweet. 2729 02:14:05.920 --> 02:14:09.239 Sixteen fair Enough Illinois. Kentucky Does Mark pope keep it? 2730 02:14:09.279 --> 02:14:14.239 GOING i think so close call, here but, YEAH i 2731 02:14:14.359 --> 02:14:19.159 do believe In Mark. POPE ucla seventh seed after Beating Utah. 2732 02:14:19.199 --> 02:14:21.640 State they'll take On tennessee as a. Two what happens, Here, 2733 02:14:21.920 --> 02:14:24.760 well we're gonna Go tennessee despite the long term struggles 2734 02:14:24.800 --> 02:14:27.159 Of Rick barnes in THE Ncaa. Tournament tennessee one of 2735 02:14:27.199 --> 02:14:29.279 the best defensive teams out, there and they'll have enough 2736 02:14:29.279 --> 02:14:32.319 to get BY. Ucla Houston clemson won. Five who advances 2737 02:14:32.399 --> 02:14:35.039 to The elite. Eight we are a believer In Covien 2738 02:14:35.079 --> 02:14:39.039 samson And. Houston Kentucky tennessee three to. Two that should 2739 02:14:39.039 --> 02:14:40.159 be a good. One who you got it would be 2740 02:14:40.159 --> 02:14:42.279 a good one if it. Occurs kentucky has Beating tennessee 2741 02:14:42.359 --> 02:14:45.760 twice this, year but we Think tennessee gets revenged in 2742 02:14:45.840 --> 02:14:46.800 this situation. 2743 02:14:46.479 --> 02:14:47.079 And gets to the elit. 2744 02:14:47.159 --> 02:14:49.239 Date, okay now for the right to go to the final, 2745 02:14:49.279 --> 02:14:51.680 four it'll Be, Houston. Tennessee what goes down? 2746 02:14:51.720 --> 02:14:54.359 HERE i will go with The Houston. 2747 02:14:54.399 --> 02:14:58.600 Cougars, Okay so final four matchup number, one let's start 2748 02:14:58.720 --> 02:15:00.560 on THE i Guess i'll just say left side of the, 2749 02:15:00.600 --> 02:15:03.800 Bracket Michigan State Texas tech for the right to play 2750 02:15:03.840 --> 02:15:05.399 for The national championship In San. 2751 02:15:05.479 --> 02:15:07.840 Antonio what do we? Got we are going to go WITH. J. 2752 02:15:08.000 --> 02:15:09.960 T toppin and The Texas Tech Red. 2753 02:15:10.039 --> 02:15:13.239 Woh, Yeah, okay A Ken palm Surprise Texas tech in 2754 02:15:13.279 --> 02:15:15.399 The National championship game and they will play the winner 2755 02:15:15.439 --> 02:15:17.640 Of duke And. Houston who you got that's kind of 2756 02:15:17.680 --> 02:15:19.920 that would end up being the de facto national title. 2757 02:15:19.960 --> 02:15:23.079 GAME i THINK i just Think duke is a team of. 2758 02:15:23.119 --> 02:15:26.880 Destiny Year duke advances to take On Texas tech Your 2759 02:15:26.960 --> 02:15:28.000 National championship? 2760 02:15:28.119 --> 02:15:30.079 Game who Is ken your national? 2761 02:15:30.199 --> 02:15:34.880 Champ duke will win seventy eight sixty Eight cooper, flag 2762 02:15:35.800 --> 02:15:39.600 twenty two, points nine, boards eight, assists and two. Steals, 2763 02:15:39.880 --> 02:15:42.880 wow did you say seventy eight to sixty. Eight, yes all, 2764 02:15:42.960 --> 02:15:44.000 Right i'm writing this down right. 2765 02:15:44.079 --> 02:15:47.800 Now seventy eight to sixty, Eight duke is your national 2766 02:15:47.920 --> 02:15:50.199 champs beating The Texas Tech Red. 2767 02:15:50.960 --> 02:15:54.560 Raiders, correct that's. Correct, there you got it down all? 2768 02:15:54.640 --> 02:15:56.720 Right hopefully you were taking. 2769 02:15:56.760 --> 02:15:56.920 Notes. 2770 02:15:57.079 --> 02:15:59.840 Porter you didn't Copy ken's bracket thick by, pick did 2771 02:15:59.880 --> 02:16:00.399 you one of? 2772 02:16:00.439 --> 02:16:00.880 THEM i knew. 2773 02:16:00.920 --> 02:16:01.439 IT i knew. 2774 02:16:01.479 --> 02:16:03.399 IT i knew. It here the, sound hear the. Sound 2775 02:16:03.520 --> 02:16:05.399 there you, go it's going. Away SO i hope you 2776 02:16:05.479 --> 02:16:06.039 guys were paying. 2777 02:16:06.039 --> 02:16:08.319 Attention there really is nobody better that we could have 2778 02:16:08.399 --> 02:16:11.159 in the studio to walk you through this, exercise which 2779 02:16:11.239 --> 02:16:12.720 more often than not ends in extreme. 2780 02:16:12.800 --> 02:16:15.399 Frustrates all, Right, ken where can people go get your? 2781 02:16:15.439 --> 02:16:17.039 Work kenpom dot. 2782 02:16:17.079 --> 02:16:21.119 Com it's twenty five dollars for twelve, months so even 2783 02:16:21.159 --> 02:16:24.000 if you sign up, tonight you'll get twelve months of, 2784 02:16:24.039 --> 02:16:26.319 access so you'll basically have it for all next. Season very, 2785 02:16:26.399 --> 02:16:28.399 nice my. Friend, well great to see you enjoy the. 2786 02:16:28.479 --> 02:16:31.000 Action it's such a great, tournament and even though you 2787 02:16:31.079 --> 02:16:34.040 don't have any clue what's gonna, happen it's still fun 2788 02:16:34.079 --> 02:16:34.799 because you never know. 2789 02:16:35.360 --> 02:16:37.440 Exactly that's the whole. Point all, right my. Friend good 2790 02:16:37.440 --> 02:16:38.200 to see you all, right Thanks. 2791 02:16:38.239 --> 02:16:40.920 Bence the sun is shining here in Downtown Salt Lake 2792 02:16:40.959 --> 02:16:43.680 city To it's about forty degrees or. So expected to 2793 02:16:43.719 --> 02:16:46.360 heat up throughout the course of the rest of the 2794 02:16:46.440 --> 02:16:49.719 week and through a really nice weekend leading into some 2795 02:16:50.000 --> 02:16:51.479 seventy degree weather next. 2796 02:16:51.559 --> 02:16:54.399 Week so if you've been waiting for the warmth. 2797 02:16:54.399 --> 02:16:56.440 LIKE i, have it is on the way and it's 2798 02:16:56.440 --> 02:16:57.959 good to have you along for the. Ride The drive 2799 02:16:58.000 --> 02:17:00.760 at five is brought to you either the twenty twenty 2800 02:17:00.799 --> 02:17:03.760 Five Big Twelve Gymnastics. Championship you can watch the best 2801 02:17:03.799 --> 02:17:05.959 of the best coming up On, Saturday march the twenty 2802 02:17:06.040 --> 02:17:10.639 second After Maverick. Center gets your tickets today At maverickscenter dot. 2803 02:17:10.760 --> 02:17:13.639 Com The Utah jazz are in action. Tonight it's a, 2804 02:17:13.840 --> 02:17:17.159 massive massive, game two teams with so much at. Stake 2805 02:17:17.879 --> 02:17:22.280 The Washington wizards roll in town to take on The Utah. 2806 02:17:22.440 --> 02:17:25.239 Jazz now The jazz and The wizards are fighting for 2807 02:17:25.520 --> 02:17:28.440 the honor of being the worst team in pro. Basketball 2808 02:17:29.159 --> 02:17:32.520 wizards are fifteen and fifty. Two they're eight and twenty 2809 02:17:32.559 --> 02:17:34.799 six on the. Road The jazz are fifteen and fifty. 2810 02:17:34.840 --> 02:17:37.600 Four they're eight and twenty six at. Home so something's 2811 02:17:37.600 --> 02:17:39.760 got to give two teams with eight and twenty six 2812 02:17:39.879 --> 02:17:44.479 records in their respective. Situations tonight busy night in THE 2813 02:17:44.680 --> 02:17:46.680 nba after kind of a light night last. 2814 02:17:46.799 --> 02:17:49.719 Night of, course the madness Of march is upon. 2815 02:17:49.840 --> 02:17:54.120 Us if you Missed Ken Pomeroy live in, studio, specifically 2816 02:17:54.360 --> 02:17:58.639 the last segment we, did we went Over ken's brackets 2817 02:17:59.280 --> 02:18:00.520 And ken Me ken's. 2818 02:18:00.559 --> 02:18:03.079 Bracket ken never fills out a. 2819 02:18:03.120 --> 02:18:04.719 Bracket he was kind enough to do it for us 2820 02:18:04.799 --> 02:18:07.079 on the show, today and if you missed, it a 2821 02:18:07.120 --> 02:18:09.520 lot of good, information a lot of good. Breakdown nobody 2822 02:18:09.559 --> 02:18:13.479 pays attention to the matchups and the teams and everything in. 2823 02:18:13.600 --> 02:18:16.600 Between Like Ken, Palmer i'd encourage you to go To 2824 02:18:16.719 --> 02:18:19.360 kenpalm dot. Com i've been a subscriber Of ken's for 2825 02:18:19.360 --> 02:18:21.879 a number of. Years it's very affordable and it gives 2826 02:18:21.920 --> 02:18:24.239 you a lot of. Knowledge So ken's we'll just we'll 2827 02:18:24.319 --> 02:18:27.760 call It. Ken's we'll go over The elite eight real 2828 02:18:27.840 --> 02:18:30.559 quick in case you missed. It out of The south, 2829 02:18:30.680 --> 02:18:34.639 Region ken Has michigan And Michigan state advancing to meet 2830 02:18:34.719 --> 02:18:37.040 in The elite, eight which is pretty. Fun of, course 2831 02:18:37.120 --> 02:18:39.799 in state, rivals there in The east. Region he Has 2832 02:18:39.920 --> 02:18:43.239 duke advancing a tick On, alabama and that is predicated 2833 02:18:43.319 --> 02:18:45.879 on the health Of Cooper flag and that is still 2834 02:18:45.959 --> 02:18:47.959 somewhat in the up in the. AIR i think there 2835 02:18:48.040 --> 02:18:49.879 have been a lot of reports indicating that he will 2836 02:18:49.959 --> 02:18:53.600 play coming up On. FRIDAY i don't know that you 2837 02:18:53.680 --> 02:18:55.840 play him On friday against the winner of the play 2838 02:18:55.879 --> 02:18:57.840 in game tonight that's going on right. Now we'll update 2839 02:18:57.879 --> 02:19:00.440 you there in a. Minute it probably, them and then 2840 02:19:00.559 --> 02:19:03.159 save him for what could be a pretty difficult. Path 2841 02:19:03.680 --> 02:19:07.280 ken also Referenced auburn is the most vulnerable number one. 2842 02:19:07.399 --> 02:19:12.159 Seed upset Special Ken pomeroy style Is louisville Beating auburn 2843 02:19:12.239 --> 02:19:16.319 in round, two but he Has duke advancing Past bama 2844 02:19:16.600 --> 02:19:19.479 there in The elite eight out of these, brackets and 2845 02:19:19.559 --> 02:19:22.280 then down to The, midwest His elite aid matchup Is 2846 02:19:22.360 --> 02:19:25.840 houston And. Tennessee by the, way from a local, Flavor 2847 02:19:27.200 --> 02:19:31.520 ken HAS byu BEATING vcu and then losing To wisconsin 2848 02:19:31.719 --> 02:19:35.440 in the second, Round wisconsin Losing. Alabama so as we 2849 02:19:35.479 --> 02:19:37.639 scroll on down to The, Midwest ken Has houston And. 2850 02:19:37.680 --> 02:19:40.959 Tennessee he Has houston advancing to the final four to 2851 02:19:41.040 --> 02:19:44.159 take On duke out of The West. Region His ELITE 2852 02:19:44.159 --> 02:19:48.079 aid matchup Is florida And Texas. Tech Texas tech to 2853 02:19:48.120 --> 02:19:49.799 three seed out of The big. Twelve they're the number 2854 02:19:49.879 --> 02:19:54.079 seven seed in The kenpalm dot com, rankings and he 2855 02:19:54.200 --> 02:19:57.639 actually Has Texas tech advancing to take On Michigan state 2856 02:19:57.760 --> 02:20:00.760 in the final. Four ken believes Tex tech will Beat 2857 02:20:00.840 --> 02:20:03.600 Michigan state to advance and take On. Duke he Has 2858 02:20:03.680 --> 02:20:07.280 duke winning the national championship Over Texas tech seventy eight 2859 02:20:07.440 --> 02:20:10.200 to sixty. Eight as far as the local side of 2860 02:20:10.239 --> 02:20:13.600 things With Utah, State ken HAS ucla Beating Utah. STATE 2861 02:20:14.520 --> 02:20:18.520 ucla is a five point five point. Favorite so the 2862 02:20:18.600 --> 02:20:21.440 madness of marches. Here THE ncaa tournament is. Here it's 2863 02:20:21.520 --> 02:20:23.920 my favorite event that we have on the sporting, calendar 2864 02:20:24.760 --> 02:20:27.680 and you can get involved by logging ONTO espn seven 2865 02:20:27.760 --> 02:20:30.799 hundred sports dot com to fill out your bracket to 2866 02:20:30.840 --> 02:20:34.399 play AGAINST, us play against, me play AGAINST, oc play 2867 02:20:34.440 --> 02:20:38.719 Against porter And, james and some celebrity folks stopping by 2868 02:20:38.920 --> 02:20:42.360 as well to fill out some, brackets namely Coach Gordy 2869 02:20:42.479 --> 02:20:46.760 chiasa and. Others so if you are interested in playing with, 2870 02:20:46.959 --> 02:20:51.840 us log ONTO espn seven hundred sports dot com and join. 2871 02:20:51.920 --> 02:20:53.239 Us all, RIGHT i want you to be. Honest. 2872 02:20:53.319 --> 02:20:58.440 Porter During ken's comprehensive, breakdown were you filling out your 2873 02:20:58.479 --> 02:21:00.440 own bracket in real time based offs? 2874 02:21:00.879 --> 02:21:05.559 NEGATIVE i still haven't even filled out a single. Matchup 2875 02:21:06.200 --> 02:21:06.959 i'll wait till after the. 2876 02:21:07.040 --> 02:21:09.040 NIGHT i have something to. Admit what's that you? 2877 02:21:09.159 --> 02:21:11.920 Did, well it's not the Bracket i'm using for the, 2878 02:21:12.000 --> 02:21:16.120 station BUT i did pull up THE espn bracket in 2879 02:21:16.239 --> 02:21:18.959 front of, me AND i just filled it in with 2880 02:21:19.040 --> 02:21:21.879 every one Of ken's. Picks i'm not submitting it to 2881 02:21:22.000 --> 02:21:24.760 our work, bracket but you're submitting it. Somewhere i'm submitting 2882 02:21:24.799 --> 02:21:27.200 it ON espn dot. COM i respect that it will 2883 02:21:27.239 --> 02:21:30.680 not be the bracket that represents my picks in in 2884 02:21:30.799 --> 02:21:34.280 our in our bracket. Challenge any early hot, takes Like 2885 02:21:34.440 --> 02:21:37.120 auburn being the most susceptible number one, SEED i know 2886 02:21:37.159 --> 02:21:38.760 you're going to dig in a, night but any, early 2887 02:21:39.479 --> 02:21:40.680 any early, THOUGHTS. 2888 02:21:40.520 --> 02:21:42.879 I don't agree. There ACTUALLY i Think. 2889 02:21:42.920 --> 02:21:45.479 Auburn, well MAYBE i agree there in the fact of the, 2890 02:21:45.559 --> 02:21:49.120 schedule the route That auburn, takes BUT i ACTUALLY i 2891 02:21:49.239 --> 02:21:51.520 think that they are one of the teams That i'm 2892 02:21:51.600 --> 02:21:57.840 most confident in being a top seed going. Forward one 2893 02:21:57.920 --> 02:21:59.959 hot take that you, KNOW i don't know if it's 2894 02:22:00.040 --> 02:22:03.840 it's super hot as of last, NIGHT i don't think 2895 02:22:03.920 --> 02:22:08.040 THAT unc necessarily should have been. In you could have 2896 02:22:08.120 --> 02:22:09.120 gone back and forth on. 2897 02:22:09.239 --> 02:22:10.440 That i'm not on the. 2898 02:22:10.479 --> 02:22:13.479 Committee i'm not going to PRETEND i dove in at 2899 02:22:13.559 --> 02:22:17.120 the depth that they, did but that has no bearing 2900 02:22:17.280 --> 02:22:19.159 on what they do in the. Tournament and WHAT i 2901 02:22:19.239 --> 02:22:23.760 saw last, night the versatility that roster, has the shooting 2902 02:22:23.840 --> 02:22:26.680 that they, have that's a team that if the jumpers are, 2903 02:22:26.719 --> 02:22:30.239 falling that's a playing team spence THAT i could see 2904 02:22:30.280 --> 02:22:33.680 making a legitimate run in THE ncaa tournament just because 2905 02:22:33.719 --> 02:22:35.360 of the talent they have on the roster. 2906 02:22:35.479 --> 02:22:36.639 Man they looked really good last. 2907 02:22:36.719 --> 02:22:39.600 Night San Diego, STATE i, think according To Ken, palm 2908 02:22:39.639 --> 02:22:42.159 one of the top fifteen or twenty defensive teams in college. 2909 02:22:42.200 --> 02:22:43.319 Basketball they couldn't do. 2910 02:22:43.399 --> 02:22:47.959 Anything and AS i referenced, earlier as As carolina was 2911 02:22:48.040 --> 02:22:51.159 Running San Diego state off the, floor like all, right 2912 02:22:51.239 --> 02:22:53.639 let's check out Some Utah Hockey club, action which did 2913 02:22:53.719 --> 02:22:57.600 not go. Well The Utah Hockey club got dog walked 2914 02:22:57.840 --> 02:22:59.520 In edmonton last night at seven to. 2915 02:22:59.600 --> 02:23:02.399 One final Score Utah Hockey club. 2916 02:23:02.319 --> 02:23:05.639 Has fourteen games, LEFT i believe, thereabouts and they need 2917 02:23:05.719 --> 02:23:08.159 to make up a four point, gap AND i hate 2918 02:23:08.159 --> 02:23:10.280 to break it to, you it's probably not gonna. Happen 2919 02:23:10.760 --> 02:23:13.200 would be really fun to have playoff hockey here In 2920 02:23:13.319 --> 02:23:16.000 Salt lake during the first year of OUR nhl, experience 2921 02:23:16.120 --> 02:23:19.040 but ultimately too many games early on that you let 2922 02:23:19.079 --> 02:23:21.479 slip away at, home so many games where you led 2923 02:23:21.520 --> 02:23:24.680 going into thirty and you just couldn't. Close So Hockey 2924 02:23:24.719 --> 02:23:27.120 club got smoked last night by The oilers seven to. 2925 02:23:27.200 --> 02:23:29.040 One they're going to take on The. Sabers coming up 2926 02:23:29.200 --> 02:23:33.440 tomorrow here In Salt Lake, city The Utah. Women friend 2927 02:23:33.479 --> 02:23:37.079 of the, Program Gavin, PETERSON i don't. Forget coming up 2928 02:23:37.159 --> 02:23:40.959 On friday, morning eleven thirty, am The Utah women will 2929 02:23:41.000 --> 02:23:44.040 take On. Indiana utah is an eight, Seed indiana is 2930 02:23:44.079 --> 02:23:47.639 a nine, seed and If utah is able to advance Past, 2931 02:23:47.719 --> 02:23:52.799 indiana most Likely bard in some, crazy crazy, Upset Don 2932 02:23:52.840 --> 02:23:56.319 staley In South carolina will be the opponent round. Two of, 2933 02:23:56.399 --> 02:23:59.120 Course South carolina the reigning national champs and the best 2934 02:23:59.120 --> 02:24:02.239 team in the. Country fun conversation we have With Gavin 2935 02:24:02.280 --> 02:24:04.520 peterson when we did our show up at The Huntsman 2936 02:24:04.600 --> 02:24:08.280 center On. Monday for Your utah women's basketball, fans head 2937 02:24:08.319 --> 02:24:11.239 over TO espn dot com and check out that. INTERVIEW 2938 02:24:11.239 --> 02:24:12.680 a lot of. Fun so you can hear that game 2939 02:24:12.760 --> 02:24:15.040 here on the. Station it's eleven thirty am coming up On, 2940 02:24:15.200 --> 02:24:18.360 friday and if they're able to advance Past, indiana we'll 2941 02:24:18.360 --> 02:24:20.959 see what they can do against the best team in 2942 02:24:21.079 --> 02:24:22.360 the nation In South. 2943 02:24:22.440 --> 02:24:25.040 Carolina so a lot of basketball. 2944 02:24:24.559 --> 02:24:24.920 This time of. 2945 02:24:25.040 --> 02:24:28.159 YEAR a little bit OF nfl offseason, news The Minnesota. 2946 02:24:28.239 --> 02:24:30.360 VIKINGS i don't know why you have to announce that 2947 02:24:30.399 --> 02:24:32.559 you don't want to Sign Aaron, rodgers but apparently they're 2948 02:24:32.639 --> 02:24:36.000 out of The Aaron rodgers. Sweepstakes so a little bit 2949 02:24:36.040 --> 02:24:38.719 OF nfl offseason stuff kind of going. On but right 2950 02:24:38.799 --> 02:24:41.200 now it is the badness Of march with THE Ncaa 2951 02:24:41.479 --> 02:24:44.559 Tournament get And roll and coming up tomorrow. Morning, now 2952 02:24:44.600 --> 02:24:47.799 the final two games of The mini four team play 2953 02:24:47.879 --> 02:24:49.840 in tournament are taking place. 2954 02:24:49.920 --> 02:24:51.280 Tonight right. 2955 02:24:51.360 --> 02:24:54.079 Now Mount Saint mary's has a thirty six to twenty 2956 02:24:54.120 --> 02:24:56.120 eight lead Over American. 2957 02:24:56.440 --> 02:24:58.079 University it is On TRUE. 2958 02:24:58.120 --> 02:25:00.959 Tv stick around For eastbound And down replays after the 2959 02:25:01.000 --> 02:25:04.520 basketball tonight and Then Xavier texas will be the game 2960 02:25:04.600 --> 02:25:06.840 coming up at about seven to, ten depending on. 2961 02:25:06.879 --> 02:25:08.920 When the first game ends On TRUE. 2962 02:25:08.959 --> 02:25:11.559 Tv As ken pomp pointed, Out xavier kind of a 2963 02:25:11.639 --> 02:25:14.680 bid stealer this. Year ken doesn't believe that they were 2964 02:25:15.040 --> 02:25:17.440 worthy of making it in even in the first. Four 2965 02:25:17.559 --> 02:25:20.159 so we'll see if they can do the same Thing 2966 02:25:20.280 --> 02:25:22.840 caroltta did last night To San Diego state by taking 2967 02:25:22.879 --> 02:25:26.159 care Of xavier and advancing to the tournament which gets rolling. 2968 02:25:26.200 --> 02:25:30.680 Tomorrow NOW BYU vcu is at two five mountain, time 2969 02:25:30.760 --> 02:25:32.959 so right as we start our, SHOW byu will be 2970 02:25:33.040 --> 02:25:37.520 tipping off AGAINST vcu Ball, Aerena, Denver Colorado elevation will 2971 02:25:37.559 --> 02:25:40.879 be On Brigham young's. Side, now the line moved about 2972 02:25:40.959 --> 02:25:43.600 an hour and a half ago for the second time 2973 02:25:43.760 --> 02:25:44.440 towards the way OF. 2974 02:25:44.559 --> 02:25:47.120 Vcu line opened up minus three point. 2975 02:25:47.200 --> 02:25:50.159 Five as we sit here today at five thirteen mountain 2976 02:25:50.200 --> 02:25:53.239 time on A wednesday, AFTERNOON byu is a two point 2977 02:25:53.360 --> 02:25:56.399 five point favorite OVER vcu two. 2978 02:25:56.319 --> 02:25:57.159 To five mountain. 2979 02:25:57.239 --> 02:25:59.399 Time and then the late night game as far as 2980 02:25:59.440 --> 02:26:02.879 the local state, goes will Be Utah STATE. Ucla first 2981 02:26:02.920 --> 02:26:04.840 game right out of the gates will be interesting Because 2982 02:26:04.879 --> 02:26:06.760 louisville is a team That Ken palm told us to 2983 02:26:06.799 --> 02:26:10.239 watch out For louisville eight, Seed creighton nine seed ten 2984 02:26:10.239 --> 02:26:14.159 point fifteen ON. Cbs then it'll be High point In, Purdue, Montana, 2985 02:26:14.239 --> 02:26:20.040 WISCONSIN Siu edwardsville taking on The Houston, Cougars Alabama state 2986 02:26:20.120 --> 02:26:24.840 taking On auburn, McNeice, Clemson, Georgia, Gonzaga, Wafford, Tennessee, Arkansas. 2987 02:26:25.079 --> 02:26:28.840 Kansas That's Bill, Selph John, Calipari, Yale TEXAS a AND 2988 02:26:29.040 --> 02:26:32.799 M Drake Missoo, Omaha Saint JOHN'S Uc San, Diego, michigan 2989 02:26:32.840 --> 02:26:35.920 THEN Unc, Wilmington, texas Tex so a Jam pack day 2990 02:26:36.760 --> 02:26:39.639 of college basketball tomorrow and the show will be out 2991 02:26:39.719 --> 02:26:42.360 on the. Road, Okay so if you're looking to come 2992 02:26:42.399 --> 02:26:44.040 hang out with us and watch them, games we'll let 2993 02:26:44.079 --> 02:26:45.959 you know where we're going to be prior to us saying. 2994 02:26:45.959 --> 02:26:48.479 Goodnight right about six, o'clock The. 2995 02:26:48.559 --> 02:26:52.959 Jazz aren't action taking on The Washington, Wizards so if 2996 02:26:52.959 --> 02:26:55.639 you want to go Watch Jordan poole And Isaiah, callier 2997 02:26:55.680 --> 02:26:59.559 go ahead to. HEAD i don't, know, MAN i haven't 2998 02:26:59.600 --> 02:27:02.319 heard your. This SO i Thought tim was good on 2999 02:27:02.399 --> 02:27:04.600 this today and we've talked about. It as a result 3000 02:27:04.680 --> 02:27:07.239 of What sarah, Wrote Sarah todd front of the show 3001 02:27:08.719 --> 02:27:11.000 at the Des Reed, News so of course she covers 3002 02:27:11.040 --> 02:27:14.959 The jazz and joins us very. Consistently if The jazz 3003 02:27:15.280 --> 02:27:18.719 are able to luck in to a, little you, know 3004 02:27:19.079 --> 02:27:20.959 lottery magic in a way they've never been able to 3005 02:27:21.040 --> 02:27:23.159 luck into it. Before and let me just say we're, 3006 02:27:23.239 --> 02:27:25.920 due all. Right, So Adam, SILVER i know you listen 3007 02:27:25.920 --> 02:27:27.760 to the. Show, OKAY i know you're a big fan 3008 02:27:27.840 --> 02:27:30.760 of the sports soccer radio In Salt. Lake let's get it, done, 3009 02:27:30.799 --> 02:27:33.520 man all. Right The jazz are trying to do everything 3010 02:27:33.559 --> 02:27:34.760 they can to get top shelf. 3011 02:27:34.799 --> 02:27:35.040 Talent. 3012 02:27:35.120 --> 02:27:38.680 Here Cooper, flag for people that don't, know reclassified and 3013 02:27:38.719 --> 02:27:41.479 should be a senior in high. School, okay he will 3014 02:27:41.559 --> 02:27:46.319 be eighteen during his rookie season in THE. Nba, Okay 3015 02:27:46.719 --> 02:27:48.719 AND i don't care if You're Cooper flag Or Lebron. 3016 02:27:48.879 --> 02:27:51.319 James it's tough as an eighteen year old to really 3017 02:27:51.399 --> 02:27:56.600 dominate or do anything super. Special lebron was insanely effective 3018 02:27:56.639 --> 02:27:58.159 as a rookie and as a young kid in a 3019 02:27:58.200 --> 02:28:00.559 way that was pretty. Stunning but if The jazz were 3020 02:28:00.600 --> 02:28:02.440 able to do, that and if they get the number one, 3021 02:28:02.479 --> 02:28:04.440 pick if they Draft Cooper, flag who is eighteen years. 3022 02:28:04.479 --> 02:28:07.479 Old do they just say and according to What sarah, 3023 02:28:07.520 --> 02:28:09.520 WROTE i mean that's kind of the beginning of the, 3024 02:28:09.600 --> 02:28:13.159 Rebuild like this whole narrative, of, hey we've been tearing 3025 02:28:13.200 --> 02:28:15.319 it down so we can build it back up like. 3026 02:28:15.440 --> 02:28:17.559 That i'm, sorry that's a little silly to me and 3027 02:28:17.639 --> 02:28:19.440 kind of falls on deaf. Ears i'm not knocking On. 3028 02:28:19.559 --> 02:28:23.879 Sarah that sounds like remorse for not doing this the 3029 02:28:24.000 --> 02:28:26.840 right way starting three years, ago WHICH i talked about 3030 02:28:27.360 --> 02:28:30.200 three years, Ago like if you're Trading rudy and you're 3031 02:28:30.239 --> 02:28:32.760 Trading donovan And quinn's, Like i'm not working for this, 3032 02:28:32.879 --> 02:28:35.239 dude And Dennis lindsay leaves and you get rid Of 3033 02:28:35.360 --> 02:28:38.799 royce And bogdanovitch and, ever like that's when this. 3034 02:28:39.079 --> 02:28:40.280 Started let's not get it. 3035 02:28:40.319 --> 02:28:43.280 Twisted but if they want to further this dumb narrative like, 3036 02:28:43.319 --> 02:28:46.159 hey we've been breaking it down so we can build it. 3037 02:28:46.280 --> 02:28:49.239 Up if they Draft Cooper flag and they, Say, okay 3038 02:28:49.319 --> 02:28:53.440 now we're starting this, year might be exactly what we're 3039 02:28:53.479 --> 02:28:54.079 in for next. 3040 02:28:54.120 --> 02:28:54.280 Year. 3041 02:28:55.479 --> 02:28:58.079 YEAH i guess it just depends on how you look 3042 02:28:58.120 --> 02:29:00.360 at the, timeline how you view the. TIMELINE i don't 3043 02:29:00.399 --> 02:29:02.479 think it's linear enough to, say, hey this is when we, 3044 02:29:02.600 --> 02:29:04.879 start this is when this, starts this is the. 3045 02:29:04.879 --> 02:29:05.600 Phase that we're in. 3046 02:29:05.719 --> 02:29:09.399 HERE i think The jazz are very much keeping more 3047 02:29:09.440 --> 02:29:12.600 options open, then you, know it would be possible to 3048 02:29:13.040 --> 02:29:17.159 have that kind of linear view of the timeline of your. 3049 02:29:17.200 --> 02:29:21.559 Rebuild but like you, said when you trade basically the 3050 02:29:21.760 --> 02:29:25.399 entirety of your, roster you move on from your your 3051 02:29:25.440 --> 02:29:30.159 head coach part ways with your head coach on both. 3052 02:29:30.200 --> 02:29:36.159 Accounts you trade your cornerstone. Pieces that's a. Teardown there's no, 3053 02:29:36.440 --> 02:29:40.239 if ans or buts about. That, however that doesn't necessarily 3054 02:29:40.399 --> 02:29:44.239 mean that's the day you can start on rebuilding what 3055 02:29:44.360 --> 02:29:48.479 you think the future looks, like because that relies spence 3056 02:29:48.559 --> 02:29:52.799 on a couple of. Variables, Right that relies on how you, 3057 02:29:53.000 --> 02:29:59.040 draft how you acquire pieces through free, agency if those 3058 02:29:59.159 --> 02:30:02.559 pieces work, out if they remain. 3059 02:30:02.639 --> 02:30:02.959 Healthy. 3060 02:30:03.120 --> 02:30:05.319 Right we're seeing that right now with The, jazz where 3061 02:30:05.559 --> 02:30:08.000 there's a draft pick that they really do, like but 3062 02:30:08.079 --> 02:30:10.239 he hasn't seen the he hasn't seen the floor in four. 3063 02:30:10.319 --> 02:30:10.559 Months. 3064 02:30:10.680 --> 02:30:13.959 Right that's that's part of this situation as. Well so 3065 02:30:14.600 --> 02:30:18.040 WHILE i do believe the teardown is very much maybe 3066 02:30:18.120 --> 02:30:20.479 still in the in the, process because there are pieces 3067 02:30:20.520 --> 02:30:22.040 on this. TEAM i don't think we'll be here for 3068 02:30:22.120 --> 02:30:25.799 the long. Haul you can't say it's just starting as 3069 02:30:25.840 --> 02:30:28.159 far as the rebuild, goes because you are well into that. 3070 02:30:28.319 --> 02:30:31.559 Process my take would be that it's just a longer 3071 02:30:31.680 --> 02:30:34.760 process than most fans are comfortable. With so you have 3072 02:30:34.959 --> 02:30:38.360 to kinda get cute with how you talk about it 3073 02:30:38.520 --> 02:30:42.120 because in the reality of THE, nba unless you trade 3074 02:30:42.159 --> 02:30:44.680 for A Kawhi, leonard unless you go out and trade 3075 02:30:44.920 --> 02:30:49.639 for A Jannisana Ta kumpo or A Luka, doncic these 3076 02:30:49.719 --> 02:30:53.959 things take three four sometimes in certain markets five or six. 3077 02:30:54.079 --> 02:30:57.440 Years they don't happen. Overnight you're seeing it In okac 3078 02:30:57.920 --> 02:31:01.440 while it looks, good they're still on the, upswing they're 3079 02:31:01.440 --> 02:31:03.920 still building. There that's where The jazz want to be 3080 02:31:04.040 --> 02:31:07.520 in two or three, years not. Tomorrow and that's that's 3081 02:31:07.600 --> 02:31:09.719 kind of WHERE i see. It where you can't look 3082 02:31:09.760 --> 02:31:13.479 at this in such a linear timeline because that's just 3083 02:31:13.559 --> 02:31:15.079 not how it works in THE. Nba you strike while 3084 02:31:15.079 --> 02:31:17.399 the iron's hot and hope that you're able to do 3085 02:31:17.520 --> 02:31:19.000 so when those opportunities. 3086 02:31:19.079 --> 02:31:22.959 Arrive, yeah and you've got to count on some things 3087 02:31:23.040 --> 02:31:27.399 that are unseen to fall into, place you, know a 3088 02:31:27.520 --> 02:31:30.760 mid round lottery pick Like Donovan mitchell popping and becoming, 3089 02:31:30.799 --> 02:31:34.319 awesome Or john's, Doctor Karl malone or Go bar at 3090 02:31:34.319 --> 02:31:36.319 the end of the first. Round but the problem is 3091 02:31:36.760 --> 02:31:40.399 during this three year period where, yes you have been, 3092 02:31:40.479 --> 02:31:44.239 rebuilding it's so silly that they would believe anybody would 3093 02:31:44.319 --> 02:31:46.399 buy into this, nonsense, like, hey this has been a 3094 02:31:46.399 --> 02:31:51.959 because all the players you've drafted so far have left 3095 02:31:52.040 --> 02:31:54.559 a lot wanting. NOW i think there's some stuff to 3096 02:31:54.719 --> 02:31:57.600 like About Isaiah. Collier you can't shoot twenty five percent 3097 02:31:57.680 --> 02:31:59.159 from three if you want to be a lead guard 3098 02:31:59.200 --> 02:32:01.600 in THE. NBA i think there's some stuff to like 3099 02:32:01.639 --> 02:32:05.000 About Kyle. Philipowski but the guys you've drafted early as 3100 02:32:05.040 --> 02:32:07.360 early as you've had the opportunity to And Cody, williams 3101 02:32:07.399 --> 02:32:11.120 he has not shown. Anything AND i feel horrible For Taylor, 3102 02:32:11.120 --> 02:32:12.760 hendrick WHO i like a. Lot he just hasn't been. 3103 02:32:12.799 --> 02:32:16.040 Healthy so many questions About kyante because some nights he 3104 02:32:16.120 --> 02:32:18.840 looks like a real key, piece and another nights he 3105 02:32:19.040 --> 02:32:22.360 just looks. Lost he does not guard at. All there's 3106 02:32:22.440 --> 02:32:24.159 not a lot of effort. THERE i know he's trying to. 3107 02:32:24.239 --> 02:32:25.959 LEARN i, guess and then there are moments where the 3108 02:32:26.159 --> 02:32:29.760 shot selections, horrific the turnovers are. Bad like at least With, 3109 02:32:29.959 --> 02:32:32.440 donovan we saw some things. Early at least With, gobert 3110 02:32:32.559 --> 02:32:34.479 after one year you kind of saw some of the 3111 02:32:34.959 --> 02:32:37.479 evolution and started to see him elevate it in a 3112 02:32:37.559 --> 02:32:40.200 way that nobody saw coming. There just there isn't that 3113 02:32:40.360 --> 02:32:42.440 with this, group and outside of marketing and outside Of, 3114 02:32:42.520 --> 02:32:43.719 KESSLER i don't know what you. 3115 02:32:43.840 --> 02:32:45.239 Have so we'll. 3116 02:32:45.280 --> 02:32:46.760 SEE i, mean it's gonna be a long, game and 3117 02:32:46.840 --> 02:32:48.280 there are a lot of teams that try to do 3118 02:32:48.399 --> 02:32:50.280 this and it takes a number of years before you 3119 02:32:50.440 --> 02:32:52.719 kind of back at. It so of local interest, tonight 3120 02:32:52.840 --> 02:32:55.399 The jazz are getting, going of, course a couple of 3121 02:32:55.479 --> 02:32:57.920 play in games in THE Ncaa tournament before the tourney 3122 02:32:57.959 --> 02:33:00.479 gets rolling tomorrow And ernest. 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