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<v Speaker 1>Well, whiskey coming game, my pain, Honey, Molly, Oh Whiskey,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you leave me?

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<v Speaker 2>From power Line blog dot com and produced by Ricochet

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com. This is the Three Whiskey Happy Hour with

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<v Speaker 2>your bartenders Steve Hayward, John You and power Lines International

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<v Speaker 2>Woman of Mystery Lucretia cat Gotta giving.

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<v Speaker 1>Let that whiskey bloon where you're being in loud down

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<v Speaker 1>in loon. Well, Hi, everybody, and welcome to this very

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<v Speaker 1>special edition of the Three Whiskey Happy Hour. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>know we say that every week and it's kind of stick,

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<v Speaker 1>but in fact it's true. This week, at least, this

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<v Speaker 1>is an irregular version of the Three Whiskey Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is the three bartenders couldn't get together. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this week. We're all scattered of the

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<v Speaker 1>four wins. I was in Los Angeles for the second

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<v Speaker 1>half of the week, mostly in my role as master

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<v Speaker 1>of ceremonies for an old fashioned Dean Martin style roast

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<v Speaker 1>of Charles Kessler, the editor of the Claremont Review of Books,

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<v Speaker 1>and several other notable things. And maybe there'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>recording of that in the fullness of time. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great success, even though none of us

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<v Speaker 1>are Don Rickles. John, you said he was off for

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<v Speaker 1>a lightning fast trip to give a lecture in Zurich, Switzerland.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a cover story. He's really clandestinely

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<v Speaker 1>traveling United States to all the locations at McDonald's that

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<v Speaker 1>are serving up the McRib and stashing him away in

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<v Speaker 1>his freezer for a long winter ahead. And Lucretia is

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<v Speaker 1>also tied up with a whole lot of end of

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<v Speaker 1>semester business at her university, where she takes on way

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<v Speaker 1>too much work. However, I thought that it might be

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<v Speaker 1>in lieu of a traditional get together to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the week's news. Listeners who need their fix every week

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<v Speaker 1>might enjoy the presentations that John and Lucretian I gave

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<v Speaker 1>in Florence a few weeks ago, explaining to an Ataenian

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<v Speaker 1>audience of students and professors exactly what happened in the election,

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<v Speaker 1>and so what I'm going to share with you here

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<v Speaker 1>is our opening commentance for me and John and Lucretia,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to begin toward the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>introduction by our chief hosts, Professor of Veronica Federico of

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<v Speaker 1>the Department the Law faculty at the University of Lawrence,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you'll hear me, and then you'll hear Lucretia,

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll be a short episode. But we didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to leave you without anything to listen to this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>So without further ado, here we are almost live from Florence, Italy.

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<v Speaker 3>And last but not least, because it was our broker here,

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<v Speaker 3>meaning that it was the person built the panel and

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<v Speaker 3>broke this colleagues with us Professor John You from the

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<v Speaker 3>University of California, Berkeley as well to all of you, released.

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<v Speaker 4>Grazier ragatzirigatza.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, I think, thank you for not doing no more,

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<v Speaker 5>no more, no more Italian, although if anyone wants to

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<v Speaker 5>ask questions in Latin, I could do a good job.

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<v Speaker 4>But thank you all for coming.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>We're all here, I think because all of us share

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<v Speaker 4>a great love of Italy, and also I think we're

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<v Speaker 4>also equally puzzled or surprised as you are as to

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<v Speaker 4>the results of our elections. Just in November, all across America,

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<v Speaker 4>at all of our universities, we're having panels exactly like

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<v Speaker 4>this one, trying to figure out how did the results

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<v Speaker 4>come about? How did Trump win and Harris lose? And

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<v Speaker 4>then why was there such a majority? And what does

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<v Speaker 4>it mean for our institutions?

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<v Speaker 1>And I hope also we'll talk.

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<v Speaker 4>About what does it mean for you Italy relations. I've

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<v Speaker 4>noticed he didn't say US European Union relations in America.

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump, I think represents a return of sovereignty of

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<v Speaker 4>the nation, So he will think that way US Italy relations.

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<v Speaker 4>And as you know, he is a big fan of

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<v Speaker 4>Georgia Maloney or Prime Minister. So I think where you

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<v Speaker 4>have a lot to learn from you, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>hope during the question and answer we will have forty

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<v Speaker 4>five minutes at least for dialogue between us, So don't

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<v Speaker 4>be shy. Also, I'll tell you in the United States,

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<v Speaker 4>when students don't ask questions, the professors randomly call on

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<v Speaker 4>people and say we will ask you questions. So better

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<v Speaker 4>to volunteer and ask questions and we'll call on people.

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<v Speaker 4>Raise your hand. So we'll start with Steve Hayward right

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<v Speaker 4>to my left too, is at the University of California,

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<v Speaker 4>Berkeley and also at Pepperdine University in California.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, thank you, John. Yeah, so I've taken

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<v Speaker 1>a what I hope is a scene setting theme for

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<v Speaker 1>my brief opening remarks, and that theme is the age

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<v Speaker 1>of luke warmness is over. And I think meaning will

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<v Speaker 1>become clear as I go, but it'll be especially clear

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<v Speaker 1>in my conclusion. It happens every now and then that

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned European Union. Is it going okay? So it

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<v Speaker 1>happens every now and then that someone in Brussels, at

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<v Speaker 1>the European Commission will make a formal announcement in English

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<v Speaker 1>of a new competency, you know, a new ability. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a euphemism for a new rule or regulation, a new

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<v Speaker 1>program to deal with some problem. And most Americans, if

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<v Speaker 1>they hear these announcements, will smile at this, if not

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<v Speaker 1>laugh out loud. No American would use that phrase a

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<v Speaker 1>new competency, because most Americans they have split personalities. We Americans,

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<v Speaker 1>but we tend to think that the government is incompetent,

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<v Speaker 1>who'd say a new competency of our national government. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a famous American comedian one hundred years ago named

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<v Speaker 1>Will Rogers, and he used to say, it's no trouble

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<v Speaker 1>being a comedian when you have the whole government working

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<v Speaker 1>for you, and most of his jokes are about the

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<v Speaker 1>government and political parties and so forth. Now in America,

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<v Speaker 1>our government gets ever larger and spends more and more money,

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<v Speaker 1>and finds ways to rule over or try to affect

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<v Speaker 1>more and more things. But it's clearly failing at its

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<v Speaker 1>basic tax tasks. Our government nowadays cannot deal with crime.

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<v Speaker 1>We spend more and more on public education and get

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<v Speaker 1>worse and worse results for our students. We spend the

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<v Speaker 1>most of any country in the world on healthcare, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody hates it because you can't understand it or comprehend it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can go on on the list. Our foreign policy.

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<v Speaker 1>We are committed to defending the borders of Ukraine, but

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<v Speaker 1>somehow cannot defend our own borders. Why this is significant,

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<v Speaker 1>I think not just for the US, but for all

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<v Speaker 1>that I is repeated in other countries where surveys are taken,

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<v Speaker 1>and the trend is this Starting in the late nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>are leading opinion poll companies would ask Americans do you

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<v Speaker 1>have confidence in the national government to do the right thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time when they started in the nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>eighty percent of Americans eight zero said they had confidence

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<v Speaker 1>of the time. Today that number is at fifteen percent.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you look at the data series from the

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<v Speaker 1>late fifties to today, it's a long downward slope with

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<v Speaker 1>one exception. The only sustained reversal, the only long term

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<v Speaker 1>reversal in that trend for several years, was under President

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan in the nineteen eighties, who promised less and accomplished

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. He made government work again, ironically enough, and

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<v Speaker 1>so as I say, I've looked at surveys for other nations,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember numbers for Italy off the top of

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<v Speaker 1>my head, but I suspect there's something similar, perhaps that

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<v Speaker 1>you'd observe here in the numbers. Now. The result, the

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<v Speaker 1>response to this from around the world has been what

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<v Speaker 1>is called populism. And in America, populism is always thought

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<v Speaker 1>to be a bad thing. I like to define populism

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<v Speaker 1>is when the wrong person wins an election. That's my

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<v Speaker 1>popular definition of it. It's always criticized, attacked by you

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<v Speaker 1>might say, our establishment, our cultural elites, our universities, our

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<v Speaker 1>media and by politicians in office, because populists are always

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<v Speaker 1>a threat to whoever is ruling a country at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter which party, and so we see examples

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<v Speaker 1>around the world of very unconventional people like Javier Malay

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<v Speaker 1>and Argentina with his chainsaw, who is making dramatic changes

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<v Speaker 1>using executive authority alone. We see the president Bukeley is

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<v Speaker 1>that his name in El Salvador, whose measures have made

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<v Speaker 1>him very popular, even though they might might not stand

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<v Speaker 1>up to our standards of due process. A lot more

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<v Speaker 1>can be said about that. We're also seeing ruling parties

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<v Speaker 1>around Europe, such as in France, in Holland and elsewhere Germany,

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<v Speaker 1>trying very hard to suppress their rival candidates who are rising.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you probably know these stories better than I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I will pass over saying anything about your prime minister

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know everyone here will know more than

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<v Speaker 1>I do about that. It can make a judgment much

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<v Speaker 1>more informed than my own. But that brings us to

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<v Speaker 1>Trump against immense obstacles he achieved. I don't think this

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<v Speaker 1>is news the greatest political comeback in American history and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in global history. It's hard to think of someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's made a more dramatic comeback against the odds, and

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<v Speaker 1>his election in twenty sixteen was a shock because it

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<v Speaker 1>was unexpected, thought to be a fluke, a chance event,

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<v Speaker 1>something out of the ordinary. This time, it's not that,

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<v Speaker 1>and this selection feels different. And rather than going through

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers, I think some other panelist Ryan may talk

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about this. I'll just tell you that on American

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<v Speaker 1>social media right now, you can find thousands of people,

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<v Speaker 1>people whose opinions and politics tend toward the left, all

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<v Speaker 1>saying the same thing. I hate Donald Trump. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>stand him, and I voted for him. This has caused

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way, you'll see this reported now in

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<v Speaker 1>the regular media like the New York Times and the

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<v Speaker 1>network news broadcasts. This has proved a great shock and

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<v Speaker 1>is causing a crisis in our leading media organizations in

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<v Speaker 1>many of our universities. So I'll conclude with this, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the age of lukewarmness is over. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of voters across our political spectrum are tired of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're now willing to embrace unconventional people. I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>it that mild way. And I was drawn back in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind to the famous passage that I'm sure many

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<v Speaker 1>of you are familiar with, at least in passing from

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<v Speaker 1>Machiavelli's Chapter six, where he talks about the danger and

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<v Speaker 1>difficulty of introducing new modes and orders, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>the people well enjoy the existing order will be your enemies.

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<v Speaker 1>And the people who might benefit from it, well, they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of lukewarm. And I'll just one sentence from that

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<v Speaker 1>famous book. This lukewarmness arises partly from fear of adversaries

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<v Speaker 1>who have the law on their side. Whenever those who

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<v Speaker 1>are enemies have the opportunity to attack, they do so

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<v Speaker 1>with partisan zeal. So there's no guarantee that any of

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<v Speaker 1>these populist figures are going to succeed. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see an example of a populas figure

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<v Speaker 1>who failed miserably, you just mentioned Boris Johnson in England.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will stop there and hand it over to

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<v Speaker 1>whoever's next.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Professor Denik Versus in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you. Can you hear me? It's wonderful. So I

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<v Speaker 6>was asked to do something a little different than i'd planned,

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<v Speaker 6>but I thought about it and I believe I can

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<v Speaker 6>weave it all together. So let me talk a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit about a more concrete example of what Steve was

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<v Speaker 6>talking about, and that is realignment. If you know that term,

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<v Speaker 6>it means that our politics has shifted in some sort

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<v Speaker 6>of massive and almost across the board imperceptible ways. What

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<v Speaker 6>we saw in the election season was this feminist icon

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<v Speaker 6>Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, who was said by many

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<v Speaker 6>women are protesting even still today in the United States

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<v Speaker 6>by feminists by shaving their heads. I guess the purpose

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<v Speaker 6>for that is to make themselves unattractive to men for

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<v Speaker 6>some reason. So Donald Trump is this polarizing figure, and

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<v Speaker 6>everyone warned that only men would be voting for Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 6>and women would all rally around Kamala Harris. One of

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<v Speaker 6>her popular campaign slogans a little bit earlier on, especially

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<v Speaker 6>among little girls, was to wear a T shirt that said,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm speaking as if it was necessary for you know,

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<v Speaker 6>of a woman to have to assert herself in order

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<v Speaker 6>to be heard by men. And so we went into

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<v Speaker 6>this election being told that women women are going to

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<v Speaker 6>vote for Kamala Harris because of abortion rights. Women are

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<v Speaker 6>going to vote for Kamala Harris because she's a feminist icon.

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<v Speaker 6>Look at all of the things she has accomplished. She

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<v Speaker 6>was attorney general in California. She was a Senator from

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<v Speaker 6>identity Groverum group that Biden had promised he would pick

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<v Speaker 6>for his vice president. She's it's a little funny in

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<v Speaker 6>the United States, she's often called a black woman, but

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<v Speaker 6>she's actually Indian, an East Indian, and anyway, so she

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<v Speaker 6>was chosen for her identity as a woman and as

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<v Speaker 6>a marginalized community person, and so she was going to

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<v Speaker 6>be drawing all of these people to her. And Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 6>of course, was a sexist. He treated women terribly. He

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<v Speaker 6>was going to make abortion a crime, and on and on.

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<v Speaker 6>And what we actually saw in the election is becoming

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<v Speaker 6>more and more clear all of the time that it's

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<v Speaker 6>true enough that among a certain demographic of feminist women,

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<v Speaker 6>Kamala Harris did well. But Donald Trump had as his

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<v Speaker 6>campaign manager the first female campaign manager in history, and

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<v Speaker 6>he had a number of strong females around him in

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<v Speaker 6>his campaign, and as it turns out, many many women

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<v Speaker 6>with the exception perhaps of college educated, graduate level single

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<v Speaker 6>women actually preferred Donald Trump as well. He talked about

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<v Speaker 6>the things they cared about, how to pay for their

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<v Speaker 6>groceries and the gas in their car, and other kinds

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<v Speaker 6>of economic issues, and of course safety crimes rose for

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<v Speaker 6>a variety of different reasons under the last administration. Donald

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<v Speaker 6>Trump focused on all of these things. And I do

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<v Speaker 6>have to say that you can ask Professor U if

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<v Speaker 6>this is true. He asked me a month ago, what

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<v Speaker 6>did I predict? I said, I predict a landslide, and

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<v Speaker 6>I was right by any standards. You know, our country is,

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<v Speaker 6>as Steve talked about, fairly divided. But the interesting thing,

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<v Speaker 6>is that not only was Donald Trump always very very

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<v Speaker 6>inclusive of women in the past and in this past

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<v Speaker 6>campaign especially, but he has chosen for his nominees, both

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<v Speaker 6>those that need to be confirmed by the Senate and

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<v Speaker 6>those that he can appoint and they don't have to

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<v Speaker 6>be confirmed, a number of women, a number of women

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<v Speaker 6>who will run major agencies at the in the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 6>And there is every indication that women are coming around

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<v Speaker 6>to the idea that the identity politics of feminism is

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<v Speaker 6>no longer controlling in the United States in the way

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<v Speaker 6>that not only it was, but that the media assured

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<v Speaker 6>us was absolutely dominant. And so that I think is

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<v Speaker 6>a really interesting aspect of the outcome of this election,

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<v Speaker 6>is that perhaps the focus the obsession, even with men

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<v Speaker 6>are going to vote for Trump, women are going to

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<v Speaker 6>vote for Harris, and all that that implies, that has

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<v Speaker 6>been overcome. And let me add one last thing to that.

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<v Speaker 6>The other thing that we've seen is that the Republican

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<v Speaker 6>Party itself is no longer the party of rich white

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<v Speaker 6>country club If you know that terment know, the exclusive

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<v Speaker 6>clubs that rich white males belong to and get together

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<v Speaker 6>and drink the whiskey and smoke their cigars and plot

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<v Speaker 6>evil in the world. You know, that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 6>the perception that's given of them. But it's no longer

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<v Speaker 6>that party. It's the party of family women, it's the

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<v Speaker 6>party of Hispanic men. It's the party, more so than ever,

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<v Speaker 6>of black men. And a really surprising outcome was that

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<v Speaker 6>we were told that no black woman would ever vote

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<v Speaker 6>for Donald Trump, and it turns out that a great

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<v Speaker 6>number of them did way more than anybody expected. So

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<v Speaker 6>we saw Donald Trump who is in some ways, at

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<v Speaker 6>least if you believe the media, the most hated guy

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<v Speaker 6>that's ever been in politics winning over all of these

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<v Speaker 6>different constituencies, and it has changed American politics in ways

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<v Speaker 6>we don't even know yet how that's going to turn out.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's where I'll leave it. Thank you to him.

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<v Speaker 6>I just thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you have it for this week's abbreviated episode. However,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to do our best, since it is

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<v Speaker 1>the holiday season, to do a mid week episode, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>about Wednesday this week, where we will catch up on

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<v Speaker 1>the news and looking ahead to some things, maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>holiday and year end reflections. So don't worry. You'll have

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<v Speaker 1>the three of us with our whiskeys in hand, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>midweek whiskeys and mcribs probably hopefully midweek. But for now, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what is our sign off these days? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I need a new one, and we'll have one by

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<v Speaker 1>the next issue. But for now we can celebrate being

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<v Speaker 1>unburdened by what has been. Bye bye for this week, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>H m hm. Ricochet join the conversation.