Speaker 1: All Star Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's go from a championship backfield to your morning drive.
Speaker 2: Ham'sday.
Speaker 3: Hester and Hester got it, FLA.
Speaker 1: You're locked in to off the Bench.
Speaker 2: We control the.
Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz of Baton Rouge Studio. Here's
Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 4: YO, and welcome in to O t B here on
one A four five ESPN Baton Rouge.
Speaker 5: He Man, that sounded good.
Speaker 4: Thank you. I appreciate it. You were here in time
for the U for the what.
Speaker 5: For the U for the you Wandra. That's legit right there.
Speaker 6: I really like it.
Speaker 5: It makes me want to talk some sports that it does.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: We've got the whole gang here for the first time, Matthew, Clayton, Flynn,
Alandra Blank, Space villar Real. We've got Taylor Melman Malone
sharp hmm. Would you have guess Malone for Taylor?
Speaker 7: I would not have guessed either. I mean not even
my top like three hundred guests.
Speaker 4: Now me, neither me, neither I would have thought something more.
Speaker 7: George Yes, super White, Porge yes, Tim Timothy, Tim.
Speaker 4: These are fair guesses. Very Elandra didn't have him in
the name. We've we've covered that either.
Speaker 6: It's pretty good, Madonna.
Speaker 8: Na.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go with McLevin though, now that I've
heard that, we so we do have a very big
show planned.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 4: It is our first official show together. Although you know,
Matt and I have done a lot of radio together.
Matt's done some radio here. I don't want to say
a lot. There's a lot of Wednesdays we didn't know
where he was. He's here today. It is, as Tata said,
a new era here for OTV. We are fired up,
and look, we will get to the baseball game. We'll
get to the game tonight, but I do want to
lay out the show here kind of before we get rolling.
We're gonna have Jimbo Fisher, our former offensive coordinator of course,
head coach at Florida State, Texas A and m He's
going to join us at seven thirty.
Speaker 7: I cannot wait to talk to you.
Speaker 4: Oh really. So it was like when he was still
at Florida State.
Speaker 7: I remember it was post playing, I believe, and he
was like, Yeah, we need to get you down there
and talk some empty protections. Blah blah blah, I hadn't.
I never spoke to him after he went to A
and M. Oh, it's been a minute though, Okay, all.
Speaker 4: Right, Well I'm excited about that. See, I have caught
up with coach a bunch he hosts with us on
Tuesdays over on off campus throughout the entire football season.
And then when he was at A and M, I
had a chance to cover games and I sit there
and I talk with him, and you know, he tell
bad he'd tell bad stories about me. I tell him
how he made up six different cuss words and put
him together, and he was usually talking to you were JaMarcus,
And so I'm excited about that. We gave him seven
thirty because if you've ever listened to Jimbo talk, there's
no way in the world we could do close to
an end of an hour or a heartbreak. So he's
at seven thirty. We'll try to get out like by
seven forty nine to make sure we hit all of
our marks. We got aj Hawk joining us at eight o'clock.
Let's give Flynn around him flows he did his job
for the first time contribution because we did hanging with
hester for those years. I don't know, I really don't
remember how long that show was, but we did it
for a long time. And he brought one guest.
Speaker 7: No, uh yeah, you run Evan Mooreymore brought one guest
and a great guest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, talk to him all the time on other shows.
You brought one guest in two years. At least two
years we did that. So you're doing better A J.
Speaker 2: Hawk.
Speaker 7: I'm officially media guy now, so you are, like it
took it took me seven years to admit it.
Speaker 4: You are.
Speaker 5: Do I get credentials at games now?
Speaker 4: Yes? Get in the press box, yes, Sam, right in
a column. You can get like you can you can
not one swinging soul in that press box is gonna
believe that. We Actually, I take that back because that
they've they've like I've written things and if I can
do it, I think we both can do it. You've
written things. I have a couple too, maybe Like for
what for our website? Are you serious?
Speaker 5: You're an author?
Speaker 4: What's our website?
Speaker 5: You're a published author?
Speaker 4: What's our website?
Speaker 5: We're pushing one four or five ESPN.
Speaker 6: He doesn't know it, or he doesn't know that we
have one t p S.
Speaker 5: That's web that's not you want to.
Speaker 4: So we have we have a website, Loising Sports dot net.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: You see the truck out there when you park today?
Is that news? It is new.
Speaker 5: It's nice.
Speaker 4: So that that is our website. And you know we
cover Scene Eatson and LSU and website's ours. Yeah yeah, huh.
And you can us. You're gonna write an art for us,
write a column. You keep going back.
Speaker 5: To the column, a whole column.
Speaker 4: All right. Uh, We've got Baseball Hall of Famer Chipper
Jones joining us at nine am. And then, of course
it is Monday, so we've got Devin snow Hold the
Mayo joining us at nine point fifteen. No, this is
not a Dak Prescott jersey. This is a Jonathan Moxon jersey.
Do you think Dak Prescott won state championships in nineteen
eighty seven and eighty nine. Well Moxing didn't either, but
Bud Kilmer did.
Speaker 5: Like Kilmer, sure as heck did.
Speaker 4: So this was a look. I saved this for today
because if there's one thing that Flynn and I share together,
it is our love for varsity blues. Although, like I'm
probably gonna take it off at some point because Flynn
brought us nice new hoodies. Check this out.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, this is limited edition, limited print, short print,
very short because Jacob changed the logo after it, but
straight this will be in the to be exhibit.
Speaker 4: There's nothing that says we can't use that logo as well. Yeah,
I think I think it's as we've learned here over
the last couple of weeks, like kind of know what
ever I want, you know, in a good way, like respectfully,
with all due respect. But we're still doing it.
Speaker 7: Well, we all got these hoodies now, so we need
to pick a day where we all wear.
Speaker 5: Them together like a uniform.
Speaker 4: Okay, are we going to roll in a media day
all wearing the same hoodie?
Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 4: I actually I might have something, uh something on the
way too.
Speaker 5: I can't wait.
Speaker 4: Maybe what is it? Tell it's a surprise?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: Can I say something?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Can I say how fired up I am to be
here right now?
Speaker 6: We would love for you to.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I gotta talk, you don't, Hey, look you don't
have to add Can I tell you something?
Speaker 4: Like three hours?
Speaker 5: So funny?
Speaker 7: Well, like someone I was taught that when somebody's speaking,
you don't interrupt them.
Speaker 4: Real quick, real quick. We're in a sales meeting for
the sales team to get to know friend sure and look,
and for all of us too, like you know, all
up to get back in front of each other. And
we've got a new show and we're excited about it,
going to sell it out and do the whole deal. Uh.
I forget who was talking. But and then Matt has
a question as a forty year old man, so to
be forty year old man, he raises his hand to
get called.
Speaker 5: It was more like it was more of like it
was full hand. It was a classroom desk.
Speaker 7: So are you trying to tell all the children out there?
When you become adults you can just be rude and
interrupt people.
Speaker 4: It was an open forum kind of meeting, like where everybody.
Speaker 6: Like maybe like a little finger, like you know, it
was kind of like that.
Speaker 3: It wasn't you're talking about us bus And he's like,
all aboard to too.
Speaker 6: I don't think bus is too.
Speaker 4: Sorry, what do you want to say? You're fired to be?
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're yeah old on buses they have horns, they
have horn.
Speaker 5: Well you know, I mean it's.
Speaker 6: More like a honk.
Speaker 4: I think the wheels I wasn't gotta get a Hong Kong.
Speaker 6: That would have been amazing.
Speaker 4: If go beep beep, yeah, horn on the bus goes
beep beep beep, yeah. Yeah. I gotta look. I got
as soon to be two year old. I know all
about the wheels on the bus and the horn as well.
Speaker 7: Too, So I'm fired up to be here. Yes, I
was honestly didn't know this place opened before like eight o'clock,
So I was.
Speaker 4: I was shocked.
Speaker 7: So like, I came to the front door and I
tried to use my key and it wouldn't let me in.
Speaker 4: I had to go to the side door to let me.
Oh yeah, the front front door.
Speaker 5: I was like, well, this sucks.
Speaker 4: That doesn't open until eight.
Speaker 7: Because me being a good a good boy, first day
I got here at like six twenty six, showed up early.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you come in here, put my stuff down,
prep get ready.
Speaker 7: Yeah you know, Taylor was the only one here when
I got here, so shout out to you. But we
were talking about writing something. So when you kick off something,
we're kicking off a new show here, right, you like
to have a toast?
Speaker 4: Okay, So I wrote something.
Speaker 7: Okay, I wrote a toastground yea, yeah, yeah, background.
Speaker 4: What kind of background music do you want? Though, I
don't know, like survive. I mean I didn't write it.
You wrote the column.
Speaker 5: I mean it's real short, real short, and sweet toasting music.
Speaker 7: Toasting music. That's okay, Taylor. If you could just hum
a song in the background, that'd be great. You have
a hymnal going please Highway to Hell. Never mind on
the hymnal. All right, So everyone in the in the
studio here, if you're in your car at home super
early to work in at your office, just raise a glass,
raise a coffee cup, raise a coffee cup, raise it.
If you don't have something, just raise your hand up
and be respectful of Okay, yeah, all right, already, all right,
here's to you, here's to me. I'm so dang fired
up for the new o T B all right, first
Jordi and T Bob right and then T and Hester.
But it's our turn now, so let's freaking flester.
Speaker 4: It's actually really good. Absolutely, I'm a poet. Well done, hangover, Yes,
there's one.
Speaker 6: I was one in the wolf pack.
Speaker 8: After you said like you, Paul, You're like, all right,
I'm like's not it going.
Speaker 4: I know Flynn is going to be closer to that
movie than you think, and you will learn that over time.
What are you talking about, hangover?
Speaker 5: I'm a father and businessman.
Speaker 7: And a businessman and immediate column writer.
Speaker 4: I can't wait. If you've did you say a poem?
I I did? I did. If you're listening and you
work for Louising on sports dot net and which there
is many Flynn has put his services up.
Speaker 5: To write a column, I could even write poems.
Speaker 4: I think on your first column you should write because
if there's one thing that you know more than anything
in sports, it's not LSU. It is not the Green
Bay Packers. It is the nineteen ninety five Texas Rangers.
What you know more about them than you do teams
you've played on? And I mean that sincerely. What it's like,
It's like it's the only sports nugget that you know.
Speaker 7: I mean, so, look, so I don't know a lot
about like name stats, blah blah blah. I can tell
you mindsets. I can tell you what the players should
be feeding doing blah blah blah. I can talk the
heck out of some past protections. But now then I'm
a immediate. Guy, I'm gonna learn it. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 4: But I like the never you got a point, You've
got this space in your brain for like one. Gonzales
and me and my dad used to every single Texas
Ranger game ground up, just like you with the Brakes,
with the Brads TBS.
Speaker 7: We need to ask Chipper does he really like does
he know like what kind of boost TBS gave his
probably like his career.
Speaker 4: It's actually a good question, like.
Speaker 7: Legit because it was sure like he was the only
person played probably coast to coast, right, the only team.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean it was in the Cubs WGN. You
know they'd be on WGN. But what what the superstation
did for the Braves. No, it's it's a good point.
I mean all of those Braves during that that time
period were probably a little bit more famous because.
Speaker 5: Every a little bit they had been ton yeh.
Speaker 4: The entire Southeast with Brave fans. Rangers would have waxed
them though, yeah.
Speaker 7: Waxed them the range the other day like how they
not win like multiple worlds here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, I said they were actually built for
uh slow pitch softball championships and not actual baseball championships
with the guys that they had. That's fair. Now, if
they put a bench press out there and said, dude,
two twenty five as many times as you can, that
Ranger squad, nobody's even compete.
Speaker 5: Skills competition, they would have dominated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, real baseball games, though not great.
Speaker 5: Not bad.
Speaker 4: Close.
Speaker 8: They're also pretty close to Dallas, so they're kind of
built to disappoint.
Speaker 5: Oh, for being honest, that's probably that's a fair point.
Speaker 7: I mean, legit, but they I feel like they when
I was they always lost first round to the.
Speaker 4: Yankees every year. Yep. They had the pitching.
Speaker 7: Kenny Rogers perfect game, A buddy, it was that that game. Anyway,
No one cares. That's listening.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, they do talk about Rangers nineteen ninety five. Yeah,
there might be somebody, maybe somebody I bet George up
listening exactly should we get him on? Ye? Have you
met him? Yeah? I met him. I met him. Probably
listen and you did not get his digits?
Speaker 7: Do you think he's Probably he is probably listening. So
congrats listeners out there, you're listening with probably multiple former presidents.
Speaker 4: And on that note, all right, so obviously we're very excited.
It is a brand new show. It's no longer Flynn
for once every other week to be here for an
hour or back in the hanging with has Today's where
you did show up every week for a couple of hours.
It is every single day for three hours. I hope
I didn't intimidate you too much right there. So we're excited.
We wanted to celebrate. Great job. Flynn brought in gifts,
had a poem, was ready to go. We are ready
to go. When we come back, we'll break down what
happened over the weekend. LSU baseball as we know, they
have to play again today and we'll break it all
down when we get back here on one four five
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Speaker 1: From players to legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown L s
U Football like only champions.
Speaker 4: Can legendation in our own mind? John le Jones, are
you saying legend like you're the only one up here and.
Speaker 3: Write these Let the records state that I did not
write any of these rejoins, not.
Speaker 6: One of them.
Speaker 4: All right, great song, it's a great song.
Speaker 5: So like, what's the how do you pick your music? Themes?
Speaker 3: R and B thursdaysays, but like it's the vibe that
I feel. But then like I keep it on that
that vibe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's not gonna go like Usher to raging its
machine to h O A R like you like. I mean,
that's what I'm saying. Like, it's just it's okay, I
wasn't a shot. I'm saying. No, it's gonna be a
common theme now for the rest of the show. I mean,
our is just you know, pleasant music there, they're good.
Speaker 5: That's not like us.
Speaker 4: I just that's one of the ones that like in college,
I remember you, you know, getting out the CD buklet
and flipping and flipping and finding like a burnt oar.
Speaker 5: C not like a obviously not a bot C D.
Speaker 4: No, that thing was right.
Speaker 6: So we're going to rate his Uh, you only had
like fifteen seconds or two.
Speaker 4: I think I got maybe like on the next one.
On the next one, I'm going ahead. Let you know,
let's get Gordon. So get your mind right, because I'm
giving you longer like I gave you seven seconds there.
Now we're going to go at least twelve. Let's keep
it under ten. Let's go at least twelve. Give me
twelve twelve seconds, twelve seconds, all right, right, we need
to get a clock. We have a giant one right there,
and a Landra does a great job.
Speaker 5: Okay, get Gordon so amazing.
Speaker 4: We don't even need it, Like I just want to
blow yourself. No, you just said no, you have to
do that. You have to do that, just like we
got to talk about LSU baseball. Let's go. Last night,
they dropped the game ten to four too Little Rock. Now,
as we know, on Friday they get the victory over
Little Rock seven to nothing. On Saturday, a great game,
they take care of DBU twelve to nothing, and so
last night you're feeling good. I was like I was
in the number. The box was great, the box was ready,
like they wanted a big hit, a big moment, and
you could just feel it. And it was one of
those times that when you go there, you're just waiting
for the top to just blow off of that place,
right And unfortunately, as we all know, LSU just never
gave them that. They had the bases loaded a couple
of times, didn't do anything with it, and so you
fall to Little Rock ten to four last night. And
it was a late game. I mean I looked up
it was like in the fifth inning, top of the
fifth and it was like ten forty five, and we
had all the kids out there, and I knew that
I had work pretty soon. I was like, we got
to get out of here.
Speaker 6: Third inning was forever forever.
Speaker 3: Like I left the I left the stadium during the
bottom of the third inning, got home, took a shower,
and it was.
Speaker 6: Still the bottom of the third inning. When I got
in bed, I was like, what is happening?
Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of you know, mound visits,
a lot of walks, yeah, eleven to be exact. For
the LSU Tigers and Elandra, how many times have we
sat here over the last couple of months. And the
one thing now, I know the offense can go quiet
some but the one thing that we talked about you
couldn't do. You gotta fix, you can't have it was
the free passes by the pitching staff. And obviously the
first two games you hold them scoreless, you've done great.
But that is the one thing. And look else, she's
playing for their lives today or tonight. It's gonna be
another late game, eight pm Central time, first pitch. That's
the thing that can keep them out of a.
Speaker 3: Super regional and on I was telling you all this
before the game started. I feel like in that bottom
of the third inning, Jay kind of saw the riding
on the wall and that's why we didn't see Cowen
or Evans out there yesterday, and we're probably gonna see
him today. Maybe Evans gets to start. I don't know,
but yeah, I mean, you can't give up eleven walks,
and that's just I think it was a season high
that LSU has given up eleven walks.
Speaker 4: Now, like this isn't I'm not all the umpires. You
lost ten to four, Okay, you lost the game. The
zone was never identified by the homeplate umpire of what
it was going to be.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, so that's all you have to do,
even if it's a big zone. You just got to
tell me what the zone is. Right.
Speaker 7: I watched a lot I had baseball like on all weekend,
like different games throughout the country. I felt like most
of the games I was watching, the strike zone was
super super tight. I don't know if it's been like
that like all season, because I'm not gonna sit here
in this chair and pretend like I've been like the
biggest baseball guy, right, but we're watching Yeah, but I
do know the mindset of athletes, and I do know,
like from a thrower's perspective, like what can really happen
when stuff isn't going your way? And sometimes things snowball,
like when you're a quarterback and you're you're out there throwing,
like sometimes like the wide open guy is the hardest
person to hit because like it's a throw you're supposed
to be, yeah, and you start.
Speaker 5: To aim it.
Speaker 7: Sometimes when you throw a bunch of incomplete passes or
in or something like, your confidence goes down and you
try to guide the ball, you try to push it,
like you try to make things happen instead of just
like reacting, competing and letting the body and your practice
take over. It's the same thing on any type of thrower, kicker, swinger.
So you're pitching and things aren't going your way, you
have to have some sort of reset.
Speaker 5: But sometimes you're just you're just chasing out there, right, so.
Speaker 7: You get a couple walks, even if it wasn't you,
Even if you're in the bullpen and you know that
your guys in front of you have eight walks so far,
it's like, all right, I'm going to the mound.
Speaker 4: Do not walk. Do not walk.
Speaker 7: You never want to have that mindset right. It's like
going as a quarterback going to say, do not throw
an interception like that is a terrible way to play sports,
and that mindset translates to any sport really, so hit reset.
Yeah you got for some reason, they're playing at eight
pm tonight, so what are we doing? So like you
got hours, Like, so get your mind right, get the
confidence up, do something like it's this is where the
mindset of a championship caliber team is supposed to make
the difference between a you know, a mediocre team. Yeah,
so obviously we're not mediocre, but like it says, this
is where you you got to reset.
Speaker 5: You got to come out and be.
Speaker 4: Confident and you can't allow like I saw it in
Gosh every like anybody that covers college baseball, like on Instagram,
like shocking college baseball, You're not gonna believe what happens,
Like what And then like I'd get in the comments
and be like this is like a sixteen beating one.
I'm like, no, it's not baseball.
Speaker 6: I mean number team in the country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, four four seeds one on opening day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's baseball. And the thing about baseball is
you got a chance to come right back. It's not
like football. It's not like Damn, I gotta wait till
next Sunday. Are you kidding me? No, Let's you get
the opportunity right now. And I think having Evans and
Cowen and where you're not gonna find, like there's a
lot of teams playing today right to go to super Regional,
you're not going to find many that have those three
arms available for them today.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: Certainly the two in Evanson.
Speaker 3: Cowen right and Little Rock has played a lot of games,
yeah for sure, and they won't be yeah game.
Speaker 4: They scored forty runs in the last three days.
Speaker 6: That was crazy. To ten over Rhode Island. That was crazy.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have the pigeon advantage.
Speaker 8: My bigger concern was the fourth and fifth starters for
this team held you to four runs yesterday.
Speaker 4: That was that's not that because the speeds and and
that's we've seen that so many times now. You got
to adjust to it. It's gonna be the same today.
It's Dallas bad.
Speaker 8: This unfortunately has been the outlier for this team, not
the four runs against Little Rock.
Speaker 5: But you know, I was looking at the box.
Speaker 8: Score a little bit last night before the game. Uh,
and then this morning obviously after the game finished. Stephen
Mylam is six for eight with four RBS and four
runs scored in this regional. Like, that's a guy that
we had talked about, like, oh, you're going to get
it from Kuriel, You're hopefully going to get it from Dickens.
Speaker 6: And you can stop up to Stephen.
Speaker 8: Mylam Like Stephen Mylum six for eight, four RB i
s in the in this regional so far, that's a
guy you have to have.
Speaker 5: Like, I get it.
Speaker 8: You're pitching one and grade last night, the hitting one grade,
but like mya has been a bright spot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt about it. And look, we're gonna continue
talking baseball. If we don't have a guess, it's gonna
probably be L s U baseball today and we're gonna
break down. That's that's fair, that's teasing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you say, there's one pretty simple key to it,
all right, and we'll get to that later.
Speaker 4: But when we come back, we're going to be joined
by our former coach. It's Jim Fisher right here on
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Speaker 1: Tigers turn talkers. This is off the bench.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 4: I think our next guest would say, we've been yapping
for a long time. Very excited to welcome on to
the show our former coach, Jimbo Fisher. Coach. What's going on?
How you doing?
Speaker 9: What's up? Guys?
Speaker 4: Can you believe that I got Matthew Clayton Flynn up
before seven am?
Speaker 9: It's umbelid, That's what I said.
Speaker 2: I was worried. You said you had that early show.
I said, is he going to show up halfway through?
Speaker 9: Or what's to do?
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 7: I was an extremely accomplished sleeper in college. I think
when there's one time I slept about fifteen straight hours.
Speaker 5: Uh, Jack Richie couldn't even track it.
Speaker 9: I remember it was funny. I remember that he's say
used to sleep all the time. That's why I was.
I did that to ask for he was laughing at me.
Speaker 5: Never in meetings though. No, it was.
Speaker 2: Time when it was time to go now right, there's
no doubt about that.
Speaker 9: There's no doubt about that coach.
Speaker 4: We were talking last week with Flynn before he's are
to I think I got to ask you the question,
how did you recruit an honorable mention? All district quarterback
in the in the district that only had four teams,
and the guy was honorable mention.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you one of the funniest stories you're
ever going to hear. This is honest, God's truth. We
go and his this is how because Matt, Matt's one
of the most accomplished I mean a guy that who
he did.
Speaker 9: What he did in high school really impressed me because.
Speaker 2: If I'm not right, Matt, but your junior year you
spent time with another.
Speaker 7: Guy I did halfway through your junior year to halfway
through your junior year.
Speaker 9: After got six games, he made the decision.
Speaker 2: The kid was a great athlete because you had had
a bunch of schools come to you and say, hey,
transfer here, you don't have to put up with it,
and you got mad with all your other sports, said nope,
I'm gonna be the starting quarterback and went and won
the job.
Speaker 9: So he only played a little bit. So we we
did a.
Speaker 2: Great We searched and searched, and so I'm watching all
this film and they put this film in front of me.
I remember I got the film and I watched and
I said, I really liked it, and they said, well, Jim,
this guy he hain't hardly ever played the only started
sixt game. We need to slow down. I said, well,
there's a that's at the time when those combines the coaches.
Speaker 9: Could go to them. And there was a combine at
A and M.
Speaker 2: And Derrek Duley had that part of Houston and that there,
and there was a combine at A and M.
Speaker 9: And so Matt was going to be at that Nike combine.
I think it was not. I believe it, am I right, Matt,
that's right, all right.
Speaker 2: So we get back and I said, this guy's under
the radar, Derk, but go why this he runs? Well,
he's athletic days they don't throw it a lot because
your coach, I remember, he was.
Speaker 7: From Louisiana, two lane offensive lineman.
Speaker 9: Yep, and that's what he wanted to do, run the football.
Speaker 2: And y'all had to end up having a great team
because y'all flipped around and won a couple of state
championships after that. But anyway, so that so I said,
just go look at this guy. I just want to
This is a guy that made sneak under the radar
that just we could get in on. I when we
were on everybody in the country. But I said, I
like this guy as well as anybody. So Derek, Derek's
a young coach. Derek goes to the combine and and
Derek used to come up with some of the craziest
reasons to like a guy or not like a guy.
And so he comes back and he said, you know,
well he you know, he's not overly tall.
Speaker 9: He was about six to one at that time.
Speaker 2: I right, Mattes, that sounds and so he said he's
not really you know, but he said he moved pretty well.
But he said this is this now, he said, Jim,
but I just didn't like him, and he said.
Speaker 9: He got he had fat ankles. He said he had
fat ankle.
Speaker 2: We all, you know, most of your athletes have skinny ankles,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: He said he had fat ankles, and he was okay,
but just I said, this kind of downplayed him. And
I said, dang, that's not what you know.
Speaker 2: I said, oh, you know, of course, I said, okay, Derek,
you were there, you saw him in person. So this
was probably around March February or March, and I said,
you know, that just doesn't sound I mean, I didn't
match that. You know, later on I was you know,
I get so thorough on things. Our check, recheck, rewatch
film and go watch. I watch a player ten times
because sometimes you're in the wrong moved you get a
different impression of a guy, you know what I mean.
Or if you had something on your mind, you'll watch
a guy sometimes you evaluate or so I try to
do it multiple times to be very thorough. So I
go back and I watch the film and I said,
what Derek said don't match up with this film.
Speaker 9: I said, I love this guy. I said, there's something
about this guy.
Speaker 2: So of course then you couldn't get nick if you
went something when you went with him, if you didn't
have your is dotted and teased crawl and you took
him recruiting okay, and he went in. He was only
going in for the kill, you know what I mean.
Back then, he was going in to see the school
bang bang bang bang bang. So I got to find
a way to get him to go by this school
without knowing that it's somebody we don't like. If I
bring up in the meeting, Dary's gonna say jam about
I saw that guy and he had fat angle that conversation.
Speaker 9: Okay, so I can't.
Speaker 2: Remember how we did it, but there was another guy
in that area that was getting crew died.
Speaker 9: And I said, and we're out there.
Speaker 2: And I think Kirk Dahl was with us at the
time too, because he had the area and.
Speaker 9: The position guys.
Speaker 2: So I said, so somehow I get us to I said, Kurt,
we got to go by this school. So we go by,
and we go by Tyler, not John Tyler, because John
Tyler at that time was the school that was Earl
Campbell went to school, and then Aaron.
Speaker 9: And Ross and all those guys, and.
Speaker 2: Your district was the number one district in the state
of Texas. He had loved and John Tyler, y'all and
I who else long View, I mean, everybody whoever won
the state championship all come out of that deal.
Speaker 9: Y'all had won like two. Y'all were the lesser school.
Speaker 5: That time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I remember that. And so we go by
and and and we went in and talked to the
coach and the next looking side eyed at me. And
sometime back then I was the only one that could
say something.
Speaker 9: I used to mean.
Speaker 2: We we battled it, and I would stand up to
him every now, and it'd been in a good way.
Nick was so thorough. I don't mean that in a
bad way. So he goes, okay, I'll go watch this guy.
Speaker 9: We go in there.
Speaker 2: We talked to the coach and he said, and I said,
you know, but y'all didn't throw it a lot, so
it's hard to judge you. So I'll tell you what
I'll throw it today. You don't had a scrimmage. I
don't know if you remember this or not. We're there
in the spring. So we come in and y'all scrimmage
that day and y'all threw like twenty five passes. He
threw like twenty five passes, and the scrimmage bang bang bang,
Matt completes like twenty four of them. Yeah, he's running
around making plays and he's throwing the ball all over.
Speaker 9: And you know, Nick come over to me. He looked
at me.
Speaker 2: He says, youmo, this guy's a really good But I said,
I told you he's a really good player.
Speaker 9: He said, why didn't we do that?
Speaker 2: I said, because Derek said he had fat and he
didn't look bad at he did. You know, he wasn't
nothing special. And I'll never forget this. I'll never forget this.
He says, Get Derek on the phone. He told me,
he said, get Derek on the phone. We're stand there
watching the scrimmage. So I called Derek up. I said, hey,
Nick wants to talk to you. Nick grabbed the phone.
He said, hey, Derek, don't you ever recruit or nothing.
Don't you ever evaluate another corter. This guy looks like
on the United is running around here.
Speaker 9: He showed every ball crazy. He looking good, Derek Golton.
I get the phone back and I'm laughing like crazy.
You know how to Yeah, you get the phone back
and I'm laughing like crazy. I'm laughing like I said.
Fat Akos Huh said he wasn't a girl.
Speaker 2: Derek was laughing like crazy, and so we that we
still he can't do then there and then Matt came
to camp that summer and lit it up, and we
offered him. Matter of fact, I mean we that was
a really good recruiting year that year quarterback, I said,
but I love Mathma and he committed. He was the
first one that committed that Yearhen we signed him and
JaMarcus and but it was and he played his tail
off and no matter what, and I knew he was
gonna be a great just I don't just evaluation.
Speaker 9: We saw it.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to say we saw everything in the world,
but he did it on film. He just didn't have
a lot of opportunities in your senior year. I remember
the tragic story to you all season, y'all had one
of the best years you ever had, and you're on
the state semi finals. Yeah, all drive in a two
minute drive. I don't know who you were playing. You're
down around the ten yard line, ten fifteen yard line,
you walk, you're going in the score and win the game.
And you walked up to make a check and your
center snapped the ball about thirty yards backers like che
am I right around.
Speaker 4: I hope he's not listening right now. I hope he is.
Speaker 5: What doing is good?
Speaker 4: The ball? The quarterback?
Speaker 9: No, I know not. I mean I said it happened
to our guys.
Speaker 2: You were making a check and not a lot of
people did all the shotgun y'all, And that was a
little new for y'all too, I mean for doing. And
then because y'a were going in to win, to go
into the state championship and you lost it, and then
After that, your team won a couple of state championships
and became a great team.
Speaker 9: But Matt started that whole trend, and.
Speaker 2: This thing about it was amazing to me though you
only you split time as at junior and then only
played half the time, and he had the great scene.
Then everybody started recruiting after the senior year, of course,
and he stuck with us and the rest is history.
But it was to me it was a testament to
who you were as a person. That's the kind of
guy you wanted to play quarterback. Every time a guy
got tested or challenged, he wasn't going to back down.
And you know, I'll say that both y'all were like that.
I know why y'all are friends. In my opinion, you're
very similar people because you both weren't high, high recruited
guys earlier in your careers. You weren't the five star guys.
You turned out to be five star guys the way
you played, the way you think, and and somebody asked
me that not too long ago, and I said, you know,
the one thing about those LSU teams, we recruited really well.
Speaker 9: There had a lot of five star guys, but.
Speaker 2: We so many of our great players weren't the highly
rated guys that turned out to be just as good
or better than the five star guys and developed yourself.
You two, Corey, Webster, Blue Gay, I mean, Travis Daniels.
There was guys on those teams. I can go on
and on and on that were not highly recruited guys
that turned out to play in the NFL a long time.
And we're great player, great players in college and great
pros that also fit in with those guys. And we're
even tougher and you know, and we had a mentality
on that team, and you guys were the key to
a big part of that.
Speaker 4: To that point.
Speaker 7: Jimbo the you talked about instincts and recruiting back when
when Jake and I were coming out this day in
age in college football, he was.
Speaker 2: Playing nose guard when I went wat tractic.
Speaker 5: He's a little fat boy.
Speaker 7: Do you think like this day in age in college football,
is there less instincts in recruiting because there's so many
different services you got to recruit. You got to recruit
the players that are on your roster, and you're recruiting
other people in other colleges.
Speaker 5: Plus high school is it well.
Speaker 9: When here when here's the other thing about it. As
soon as you get one and.
Speaker 2: He starts to play now and and they and they,
if they don't go to a major school, they're going
to get I gues said, everybody else is a juco
for everybody. You're gonna go get bought and taken away
from that school. The guys that do go do a
great job of that. And it's it's it's hard to
hold on to it. And I tell you what's happened today.
Guys are picking guys and they're trying to buy guys.
I mean I say by guys as a term because
it's about the money instead of all the time and
effort that goes into evaluating that process and recruiting that.
Speaker 9: Guy with the relationship. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It is it's definitely changed, and it's a it's a
I mean far as that part of it, it's a shame.
And you know, and some of those that's why I
pity some of these other schools. And I even say this,
if you're not in the SEC or Big ten. Now
maybe Clemson, Florida State, some of these other you know,
there may be a Big twelve team or two in there,
but everybody else is a juco to SEC and Big
ten teams because they got all the money and they
can go select and pick those guys and take them
away once they do evaluate them and get them in
that process. But I do think a little bit of
that has left, in my opinion, college football, and guys
are going around not spending as much time building relationships
as they are saying, well, here's four hundred and five
hundred whatever the value. That's just the nature of the beast.
The whole world's changed. And it's a shame, it really is,
because I used to love that part of it. I
mean a lot of those guys happen to be guys
that I recruited, Randall and Corey Webster, and the Corey
Webster story is crazy. I don't know if you ever
heard that one. I was sitting there one time. I
was sitting there watching We've been There. It was January.
We just goten there in December to get the job.
And I'm sitting there watching the film and Nick said,
there's a receiver down in Saint John. I don't remember
who it was, and he says, the really.
Speaker 9: Good player watch this film. So I'm in there watching it.
Speaker 2: Somebody walked in in the staff room and off of
the staff room and talked to him, and I took
my friend because when the other team was on offense,
I would hit the fast forward button to go watch
this player, because you're watching so many and I took
my finger off the button and I'm sitting there and.
Speaker 9: Somebody said something.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to look, and I went to hit
the button and I missed it and the fast forward button.
Speaker 9: As I did.
Speaker 2: Corey ran around the corner for about fifteen yards, just
on a run. But he made two guys miss and
looked just really fluid, and I said, dang. So I
started watching it. Get down with the film. Nick says, hey,
how's that receiver. I said, he's a good player. I said,
there's a quarterback down here to Saint James.
Speaker 9: It's a heck. He said, what do you know about him?
I said, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I said, I never heard of him. Said we'll call
down there. So I called down there and I said,
they said, yeah, Corey Webster is a great player. I
said he's got one offer and I said really, I said, man,
he looked a lot better than that on film. He said,
he's going to Southern miss I said, Dad gone, So
I said, well is there?
Speaker 9: I said, does he not have enough up?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 9: Maybe great? You know, I mean that guy didn't have grades.
Does he not have grades? Now? I said, has he
been in? And then he said, now he's got you know,
he's got grades. I says, he is?
Speaker 2: He a troubled guys he get in trouble. You know,
maybe he's been in trouble and people don't character you
know all the is I went through it.
Speaker 9: I want to say, what the hell he said?
Speaker 4: I don't know?
Speaker 2: So I told her he So we go down there
and start recruiting him. And that was two weeks before
signing guys.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and signed Wow and signed him.
Speaker 2: I mean when he came at two time all Americans
played thirteen years in the leg or fourteen years and
two through three Pro.
Speaker 9: Bowls and Super super Bowls.
Speaker 2: I mean, we that's the way Randall gay, I mean,
all those guys are recruited like it was crazy.
Speaker 9: You could find guys like that. I don't know if
it's like that.
Speaker 4: Coach, Yeah, want to ask you that we got about
three minutes left. I wanted to ask you, can you
recruit that guy anymore, like do I get an offer?
Does Flynn get an offer from an LSU, from a
Florida State, from a Texas A and M. Because it
almost feels like you can't stand up on top of
the table and fight for that two star, that three
star guy, because now that the first to somebody else.
Speaker 2: I I think it got back to the coach in
Florida State had over half of our first round picks
were three starring down guys right during my time at
Florida said many great players we recruited when I was there,
half of them.
Speaker 9: Were three star guys.
Speaker 2: Then we developed guys and small guys that we thought
fit in our system and did that. We never recruited
by the stars. And I think you can if the
coach is strong enough and in his own mind to
do it. And because it's all gonna get back to
one thing. That's a guy can't produce and does he
develop on the field, you know what I mean? The
development parts the other thing. We're a guy in needs
development and he starts to get passed up a little bit,
you know what I mean? And you're going to miss
guys too, I mean coaches, we knows a lot of
guys I missed too. I mean, I'm talking about success stories.
But beyond Warner was one for us at Floridas, there
was a bunch of them, Xavier Roads. Then we're all
three starring guys in that we're all first round picks.
Speaker 9: There's a lot more of them.
Speaker 2: But to me, it depends on the program and the
coach and how much he believes in his own own system.
Speaker 4: Coach, we could sit here and actually we're gonna ask
that you come back on like later on. This is
our first show together, so we certainly wanted to have
you on. You know, obviously our relationship with you, like,
I want to have you back on here pretty soon
to tell the story about around the Horn, how you
saw it. We ran it in the Superdome, we ran
it at LSU, and JaMarcus didn't throw the football like,
oh god, oh god, was it wide open? Women?
Speaker 9: It was wide open?
Speaker 4: It was wide over. Coach, you truly are the best man.
You did so much for me, for Matt in our careers.
You played us and put us in positions when a
lot of other people probably wouldn't. So I can't thank
you enough. I enjoyed doing radio with the Over on
serious XM every Tuesday there in football season. That was
a lot of fun.
Speaker 7: And I just want to say that I would never
have been an LSU Tiger without Jimbo Fisher.
Speaker 5: Yeah like that, y'all's.
Speaker 7: Coaching stuff, Like coaches have a huge impact on individual people,
but that whole coaching stuff, the impact you had on
Louisiana because you turned a program that was not great
into one of the biggest powerhouses in the country. What
a special staff, special time that was for LSU fans
and the economic the boost that the state and the
pride factor, like you were a part of something big
and you were one of the big, big reasons for that.
And we love you and we thank you, and yeah,
we we just appreciate the time this morning.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Well, what's.
Speaker 9: The same here, guys.
Speaker 2: Like I said, you guys, I respect you guys as
much as any players I've ever coached.
Speaker 9: And I mean that because I mean what you guys
did and what you went about your business, how good
you were. It's mutual here.
Speaker 2: And it was a special time when when that thing
flipped and we started winning, were the state Louisiana boomed
off and it was as fun time as I've always
consider myself a Louisian. I always liked the people and
the people there, and it was it was such a
great place, and you guys were a huge part of it.
And my favorite guys is as good as I've ever coached.
I mean that too, And I know this sound. I
don't mean to get sentimental on all that craziness, but
it was a fun time in your life as you
look back, and were fortunate to have you guys.
Speaker 9: That's for that.
Speaker 5: Thanks for giving us coach ankle is a chance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we appreciated coaching.
Speaker 9: Bad ankles.
Speaker 4: All right, coach, have a good morning.
Speaker 9: Coach. You two guys, great to be with you.
Speaker 4: You as well. There he is Jimbo Fisher, our offensive
coordinator when we were here at LSU. Of course, win
a national championship at Florida State and let's take a break.
But we I mean, the memory on Coach Jima Fisher
is just it's I've never I've never been around somebody
that can recall moments like that, So I want to
break some of that down when we come back. It
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Speaker 7: And how many people out there can remember what they
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Speaker 7: The dude, Remember there was a bad snap in my
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Speaker 4: You were changing by the It's correct what I'm telling you.
Speaker 5: I was already committed to like I'm like, I wasn't
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Speaker 4: He has the best football memory that I've ever ever seen,
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