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<v Speaker 1>We're in we're in virtual reality, and you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>creating all these worlds that are farther and farther from

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<v Speaker 1>like real organic worlds.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about that little workshop thing I'm doing, she talks about.

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<v Speaker 1>How, yes, she she talked a lot about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And she also talked about how, you know, she struggled

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<v Speaker 2>with like realizing that like, Okay, this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>a this isn't all real like this this there is

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<v Speaker 2>an element of this being like a hologram or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>like it could be like a virtual reality. But if

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<v Speaker 2>it's real to you, then it's real, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just even if it is some sort of similation, even

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<v Speaker 2>if the simulations theory does hold true, and and lots

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<v Speaker 2>of aspects and a lot of things point to maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this is a simulation, especially if you start really practicing

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<v Speaker 2>the arts of manifestation and you start realizing how.

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<v Speaker 3>Powerful your thoughts are and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if that's all, if that stuff holds true, then

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<v Speaker 2>it is some sort of weird, manipulatable situation, some simulation. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine, But at the same time, the word real,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't we don't even really know what that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what baseline is or not. And so that's

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<v Speaker 2>where you just kind of got to go, like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>before I get to down that rabbit hole and start,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, freaking out about stuff. I feel like whatever

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<v Speaker 2>I'm experienc right now seems real to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's true. That's the same way I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like you have to hold on to that for

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<v Speaker 3>as much of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's it's nice to like to think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe that is true and fine, but like you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you were still living this reality in this consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's difference If it's as a video game and

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<v Speaker 2>this is the level I'm in right now, doesn't change

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<v Speaker 2>that I can't get out of this level and this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is where I'm at right now, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know I have to be a better Zelda character

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<v Speaker 2>and figure out how to get to the next world. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's the thing, but for right now, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got to.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay in this one yeah, complete this level first.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and all these things happening at one once one time? Whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>that is crazy? And multiple timelines.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, oh the timeline thing that's really does in my head,

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<v Speaker 2>and especially when you start thinking about the Mandela effect

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<v Speaker 2>and how okay, well maybe that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Universal line and other timelines.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it blows my mind is just wow. And and

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<v Speaker 1>fractals like how okay, I guess this goes to like

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<v Speaker 1>I just I keep seeing fractals and everything. I keep

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<v Speaker 1>seeing everything as a fractal, like the whole inner Earth

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's just a fractal of the of this body,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just a fractal of this larger universe or

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, yeah, universe, I guess, which is just

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<v Speaker 1>a fractal of something else, like these endless fractals. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like the fractal thing I totally saw when

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<v Speaker 2>I was on mushrooms, I mean. And then I also

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<v Speaker 2>like I sometimes, like last night, I actually had a

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<v Speaker 2>dream like right before I went to sleep where and

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<v Speaker 2>I used to have these dreams a lot when I

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<v Speaker 2>was little, But things like like scales of things would

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<v Speaker 2>be would almost make me nauseous, like like something would

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<v Speaker 2>go so tiny to where I could I couldn't even

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<v Speaker 2>conceive it to like so huge, and it would like

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<v Speaker 2>fluctuate back and forth, and like I mean, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>like I could be looking at this cup and in

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<v Speaker 2>my dream it could be like room down to like.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've had that same experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you have.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. That's good because I've tried to explain

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<v Speaker 3>that to somebody before and they've just been I'm what

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying. That sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>I just was thinking about it the other day. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, why does that happen sometimes? And what is

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<v Speaker 1>what is happening when that happened?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but it makes me uncomfortable, Like physically

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<v Speaker 2>I can get a little bit nauseous with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like vertigo kind of but not quite because

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<v Speaker 1>you're just like it's like Alice in Wonderland, like boom.

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<v Speaker 2>Big and then small yes, and then and then no

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<v Speaker 2>time flat yes. For me, I feel like it always

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<v Speaker 2>happens in that in between sleep and awake state, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it's like I'm heading into dreamland. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>about to fall asleep, but I'm not quite there yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm still conscious, Like that's where that's when I

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<v Speaker 2>experienced this this thing, And uh yeah, I I I

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<v Speaker 2>now kind of think of it as fractal land.

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<v Speaker 1>H I didn't think of it like that mine happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose that use may have happened between dream state

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<v Speaker 1>and waking state. But now it just it happens in

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<v Speaker 1>my regular conscious reality, like during the day when I'm awaiting.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was younger, it used to happen to me

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<v Speaker 2>and during the day all the time too, like like daydreaming.

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<v Speaker 2>I would just like kind of like start zoning out

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<v Speaker 2>and then like, uh, I could I could see, I

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<v Speaker 2>could just envision, like and and sometimes it's a feeling too,

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<v Speaker 2>like I could feel the expanse of things and then I.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel it, yes, exactly. I just was thinking about that

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<v Speaker 1>not even two days ago, within the last couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, what what exactly is happening when

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<v Speaker 1>that happens? Like what is what what's happening with either

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<v Speaker 1>dimensions or my mind? Or what exactly is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>What does this happen? And how? Yeah, and and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when it's happening, I try to figure out, like what's happening,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm very aware of it when it's happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like watch and observe it. But then

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's like no control over it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it doesn't last that long, but it's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you like it or not? Because I never

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<v Speaker 2>really have liked it. For I wouldn't say like I

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<v Speaker 2>hated it. It's just like when it comes, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to observe it why I have it, But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily like the feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the same, that's exactly the same feeling I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I yes, it's not like a dislike or like.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of observe it and I just try

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out why, and I just know it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to end, and it's just like that's it. It's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really weird feeling. It's not like, actually I

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<v Speaker 1>remember almost the first time that had happened, and it

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<v Speaker 1>happened in my adult life. This was weird, and I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of always go back to that experience. My friend's

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<v Speaker 1>father had died and I was coming back from the

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<v Speaker 1>funeral and I was sitting in my car. I was

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<v Speaker 1>probably like twenty five or something, and I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about him, and I I liked him as a person.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a very nice man, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw him and he just like floated backwards

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<v Speaker 1>into foreverness and just like expanded expanded. It wasn't really like,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't him. It was like the essence of him.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like I saw him, you know, like a

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<v Speaker 1>ghost or something, but I just like I imagined him.

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<v Speaker 1>But then all like I thought of him and then

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden that experience happened and

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<v Speaker 1>it but it was him going back and back and

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<v Speaker 1>back and back into earth, I mean like into the

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<v Speaker 1>into the sky. And it was just weird because I

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<v Speaker 1>associated it with like my feeling that I was that

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<v Speaker 1>I had of like sadness and like that I liked

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<v Speaker 1>him and like whatever that feeling was that I was having,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I associated that experience with that. So then every

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<v Speaker 1>time I have it, I'm like like I try to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out, like is there a connection to that event

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<v Speaker 1>or to that feeling of during that event, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>never that that hasn't it hasn't like revolved around that.

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<v Speaker 2>So my mine had mine started before I remember like

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, uh that it was something that like was

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<v Speaker 2>real little like my earliest memories, I used to have

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<v Speaker 2>like this weird scale thing that would go on and

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<v Speaker 2>then I also remember being able to kind of induce

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<v Speaker 2>it when I was little by I would do like

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<v Speaker 2>this whole thing where you like pressed.

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<v Speaker 3>On your eyeballs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you're laying in bed and then like like

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<v Speaker 2>you start seeing like little little stars or like kaleidoscope

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<v Speaker 2>looking stuff and I would squitch my I played with

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<v Speaker 2>that like whole thing a lot when I was really little.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to love doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then because I was like, I'm like seeing the stars,

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<v Speaker 2>do you the first saw stuff? And then sometimes like

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<v Speaker 2>that would that would make it darn? And then the

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<v Speaker 2>first time I I kind of identified.

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<v Speaker 3>It as like a some something is happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Was I watched Fantasia, the Disney movie and it should

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<v Speaker 2>and it there's a part where it shows like the strings,

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<v Speaker 2>like the vibration of what sound sounds like like this

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<v Speaker 2>is an ovo and it'll be and it would be

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<v Speaker 2>like boom, and it had like all these weird designs

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<v Speaker 2>where things would get bigger then small, like where if

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<v Speaker 2>it was loud it was expanded, and then if it

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<v Speaker 2>was silent like that. And I was like, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably the closest visualization I could get to the feeling

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<v Speaker 2>that I feel with my cell back and forth right,

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like that, So I remember when I

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<v Speaker 2>was that's so then like I don't remember the first

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<v Speaker 2>time I watched fantasos like Little Kid like five or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I remember thinking to myself, Okay, so it

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<v Speaker 2>must have something to do with sound because or like now,

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<v Speaker 2>vibration has something to do with vibration, something to do

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<v Speaker 2>with energy like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the waves or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like the waves of things.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense. Yeah, somehow your brain is like caught

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<v Speaker 1>in that wave or yeah. I don't know, but that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Yeah, I can I can see that that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good analogy or connection. Yeah, well one time,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean everything that well, first, the joej just Beenza

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<v Speaker 1>series that I was watching on Gaya has this The

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<v Speaker 1>last episode is him using a kaleidoscope and he had

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<v Speaker 1>like this kaleidoscope guy who had three generations of kaleidoscope

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<v Speaker 1>makers in his yeah, in his family. And he made

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<v Speaker 1>this kaleidoscope meditation with from this guy and then had

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<v Speaker 1>this music and there are all these like he walks

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<v Speaker 1>you through his meditation. But the thing about it was

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about how geometric figures or geometric shapes

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<v Speaker 1>helped to connect you to the like the other, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like quantum world. Yeah, and they help you

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<v Speaker 1>also to get like zoned in like your brain is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get zoned. But I was thinking about how all

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<v Speaker 1>of these shapes appear when like the building blocks like

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<v Speaker 1>of universes, like all these geometric and sacred geometry shapes appear,

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<v Speaker 1>and it relates back to this crop circle. There's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of connection. But then that him talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that made me think of how I used to also

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<v Speaker 1>do that with my eyes, because I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I used to see geometric shapes a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I was a kid. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>I used to do when I was a kid was

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<v Speaker 1>I had this this wallpaper on my closet which was

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds totally ugly, but it was kind of only

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<v Speaker 1>like these grids. And when I woke up in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>But it kind of related to this whole like geometric

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<v Speaker 1>and I just like thought of that. So it's just weird.

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<v Speaker 1>How like kids like just naturally do those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Like however you are when you're like kindergarten like five six? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I like, I like that's when I started remembering that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I I know I did that until I was

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<v Speaker 3>probably like eight or nine. I would I would do.

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<v Speaker 2>That a lot, and I uh, I always wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go further, but I would get pulled back in and

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<v Speaker 2>I before I wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Maybe maybe for whatever reason, the physical ceiling was

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I never I never went past the physical ceiling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. I've had similar expanding experiences but and being

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<v Speaker 1>where I was able to see my body. Not until

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<v Speaker 1>as I was an adult, and then I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>more like yeah exactly, and I did. I I was

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<v Speaker 1>and I could feel like the vibration as it was

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<v Speaker 1>going back in, like when I was going in and out,

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to like see my hands, but that

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<v Speaker 3>And my my left eye. Uh. Then this probably started

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, I would say often like maybe once a day,

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<v Speaker 2>I see like when I like, I'll like all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, like close my eyes and I'll look up

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<v Speaker 2>and I see, uh a bright blue spiral like oh

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<v Speaker 2>big spiral, and yeah, in the bottom of my left

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<v Speaker 2>eye and it's it's been bothering me. Like I asked

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<v Speaker 2>the optometrist about it, and like he was like what,

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<v Speaker 2>and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was, and it's not like because you're looking at your

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, and it's the same, and it's always one

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<v Speaker 3>It'll just be like and it doesn't last long.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like like I'll like close my eye, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>open my eye and there'll be like h And it's

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<v Speaker 2>not it's not my focal point.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not what I'm looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the prefer it's in my bottom pref real

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<v Speaker 2>vision and it's a bright blue spiral.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been going on for five six years now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh strange.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't want know what to do about us.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, well I had one other out of It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really an out of buddy experience. I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>told you this, but one time Petro made these like

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<v Speaker 1>crazy brownies, like special brownies, and it was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I'm making those special brownies. So he had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea. So I wound up eating it

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking let's just chill and watch a movie. Like

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes into the movie, I was like oh shit,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the most intense thing I'm about to experience,

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<v Speaker 1>And sure enough it was. It was like it was

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<v Speaker 1>totally crazy. I did not know what to do with myself.

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<v Speaker 1>So finally I was like, oh, I gotta go to bed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So I just I finally fell asleep. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was an out of body or I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>like a it was almost like that same experience like

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<v Speaker 1>a tunnel or a like this like that thing when

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<v Speaker 1>it was like what we were just talking about when

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<v Speaker 1>you go like out big and like forward, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was that and it was like I was going through

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<v Speaker 1>a tunnel of time, and all of a sudden, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like it was like flipping through pages of

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<v Speaker 1>a book and it was like later I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that was probably my Akashik records that I was going through,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was looking and then I just saw at

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<v Speaker 1>one point, I don't even know if it was me,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was something just standing there like like in India,

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<v Speaker 1>from India, goddess or god that had like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like this like all the arms going and like standing

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<v Speaker 1>in this you know, like like in a pose, like

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<v Speaker 1>in a dance position, or in a pose and then

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<v Speaker 1>like doing this dance and then it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>all this thing in the background that looked like it

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<v Speaker 1>was either from India or Egypt. And then that was

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<v Speaker 1>like the most visual that I got. But then it

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<v Speaker 1>was then that stopped, and then I was like like

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<v Speaker 1>I was going through another like going through pages of

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<v Speaker 1>a book, and then it would like come to another image.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was the only one that I remembered.

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<v Speaker 3>It was crazy, was just us, but that's the only

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<v Speaker 3>one that you stuck with you.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the only one that stuck with me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And that the fact that I was going through like time,

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<v Speaker 1>It was like I was going through all of these

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<v Speaker 1>time this time period.

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<v Speaker 2>It is interesting that, like you know, special brown or

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<v Speaker 2>marijuana does mess with your sense of time in general.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true. It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean like I did some some ones that

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<v Speaker 2>were pretty heavy, some pretty special cookies and why and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like I didn't get visuals, but it would

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<v Speaker 2>be like I don't like I'm not a big fan

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<v Speaker 2>in general of all that of marijuana just because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like the messing with my time that much. But

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is is like if I moved my hand

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<v Speaker 2>like this, like I could fill my energy body move

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<v Speaker 2>like a delay.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was any time I was moving, I could felt,

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<v Speaker 2>I could feel. So it felt like I was on

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<v Speaker 2>a psychedelic but with no visuals. So it was just

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<v Speaker 2>like like I felt like my energy body and my

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<v Speaker 2>physical body were no longer in sync.

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't connected. So like I feel like everything felt

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<v Speaker 3>weird and slow.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh my god, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>fall out of my body if I don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's I think that's one of the that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the gifts of it. You know, it's it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a totally different perception, but it could get pretty intense.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the time thing, and just like that feeling

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<v Speaker 1>of being like being yeah, just a slow motion of

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<v Speaker 1>like something having done something and then being like whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I haven't had that experience in so long. Whoa, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Well maybe I should do that I have that experience

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<v Speaker 1>again anyway. Now. I just figure. Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it's a it's definitely a medicinal plant, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a nerve for for for medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's just abused a lot for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly. That's exactly what I think. That's that's like pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much it. I think it's abused and overused. But like

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<v Speaker 1>the essence of her is, you know, just like her

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<v Speaker 1>gift to the world, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I just think it's like a thing

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<v Speaker 3>that you should have.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like mushrooms.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't take mushrooms all the time, Like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>those are very it should be special occasions.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff, right, yeah, with intention.

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<v Speaker 3>With intention, like that's the thing. But whatever teach there.

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<v Speaker 3>They can all do whatever they want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care right exactly people you know, they're just

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<v Speaker 1>experimenting to