WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:12.279 This is a studio both and production. 2 00:00:16.359 --> 00:00:19.160 Day is July twelve, twenty twelve. Time is ten oh 3 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:22.199 five am. Case number three oh six A one five 4 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:25.280 six four two. This will be a meeting with Israel Keys. 5 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:36.679 Present will be myself and TFO Jeff Bell, just us 6 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:45.520 today my coffee. 7 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:51.119 All right, Well, we have to go through all the 8 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:52.759 same we're going on. 9 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:55.439 I want to make sure, obviously, I have to take 10 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:58.520 the court round that we didn't interrupt any lawyer meeting 11 00:00:58.600 --> 00:00:59.399 or anything like that when. 12 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:00.600 Came over picking this morning. 13 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:05.040 No, okay, I'm Whenever you pred your rights, you have 14 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:07.920 the right to remain stile and understand that, yeah, anything 15 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:09.439 you say ken will be used against you in the 16 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:09.879 quarter of law. 17 00:01:09.959 --> 00:01:10.959 You understand that, yep. 18 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:12.519 You have the right to talk to a lawyer and 19 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:14.519 have him present with you while you're being questioned. 20 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:15.799 You understand that, yep. 21 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:17.680 If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will 22 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:19.959 be a point to represent you before and during any 23 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:22.640 question if you wish to understand that, Yeah, you can 24 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:25.120 decide at any time to exercise these rods and not 25 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:28.120 answer any questions or make any statements. You understand that, Yeah, 26 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:31.760 you understand each of those rights I've explained to you, Yes, Okay. 27 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:37.040 Also have to remind you that we're here to talk 28 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:39.480 about to other crimes. If we talk about anything and 29 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:41.680 nothing to do with Samantha Cone and we can't talk 30 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:43.760 about Samantha Cone, understand that. 31 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:44.040 Yep. 32 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:45.519 Okay. 33 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:50.760 You also have a stand by council, believe Rich Kirdner 34 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:52.680 and possibly Japlin Walsh. 35 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:56.319 Would you like either one of those attorneys present today? Okay? 36 00:01:57.079 --> 00:01:59.760 I think that's it you Primal Bart, do you forget anything? 37 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:04.840 You're probably no better than us. One thing I wanted 38 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:07.359 to do before we jump into anything is I messed 39 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:09.439 up the other day and I wouldn't well, I just 40 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:11.759 wasn't as thorough as I should have done. And I 41 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:13.919 want to add the bolt registration number on here or 42 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.479 I'm just gonna ask so it's clear what Bayliner we're 43 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:17.319 talking about. 44 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:38.639 And then i'll just have you initial it. M. I'm 45 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:40.719 gonna put the plate number from the trailer. 46 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:51.919 Two, today's the twelve, and then i'll just. 47 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:53.800 Have your initial buy over there. 48 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:55.599 Just that I made the addition. 49 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:03.879 With the boat. One thing I wanted to we wanted 50 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:05.000 to show you was. 51 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:11.759 A couple of pictures they had asked I know you 52 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:13.639 when we talked to you about it before, I wasn't 53 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:15.199 in here, but I think it was Jeff and Steve 54 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.479 that we're in here. You mentioned that there might be 55 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:21.039 where there might be something, some blood or something like. 56 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:22.800 I didn't know how much at was left. 57 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:24.520 I'd answer that question. 58 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:26.560 Yeah, I know, I'd taken it apart. 59 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:30.159 But if you can look at these and if you 60 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:34.039 can see just maybe looking at them, or refresh your 61 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:36.479 memory about where something might be or. 62 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:40.680 You know what what they should look. 63 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:42.439 For looking bad shape, does it. 64 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:50.240 Considers it's going to be in that ending? 65 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:50.599 Well? 66 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:54.599 Yeah, where wh where is the top end of the motor. 67 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:56.080 On this side? 68 00:03:57.240 --> 00:03:57.400 Here? 69 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:03.000 Anywhere on this side? My guess if you find anything 70 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:06.199 that's gonna be along these trim pieces, like underneath them 71 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:10.039 or something, Okay, socause it got it, you know, I 72 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:13.159 got on the fiberglass. I cleaned it, but I don't 73 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:20.040 know if I Okay, where's the top end of the moment? 74 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.319 I it probably got junk. I remember, I took it 75 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:31.000 apart figure out what was wrong with the motor, and 76 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:35.279 I think by the time I had figured out what 77 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:37.000 was wrong with that, I decided the whole motor was 78 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:39.519 gonna be scraped, so I think, yeah. 79 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:40.879 I think I just threw it away with all the 80 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:41.879 parts I took off. 81 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.079 Anything in the boat, I don't They haven't looked in 82 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:47.839 any of the stuff yet. You even know what's in here, 83 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:49.600 what's in the tote or anything. 84 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:50.600 Like that would be there. 85 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:57.240 I d the tote. I don't remember exactly what's in 86 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:00.639 the toe. Underneath the toe, there's uh removed bull floor 87 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:07.079 panel where I used to keep concrete weights and stuff, Okay, 88 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:13.480 And I would say any ropes or anything that are 89 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:16.160 in the boat, I don't know one of them is 90 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:18.639 gonna be like a tow rope for skiing, but there 91 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:21.079 were I know I had quite a few other ropes 92 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:23.480 in there as well that I would use for anchor 93 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:25.920 ropes and tying the boat open stuff. 94 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:32.720 So any tools in the boat that you remember that 95 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:35.000 would we should be looking for. 96 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:39.000 Anything else of interest is going to be in either 97 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.759 those side pockets along the sides or in the glove 98 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:48.000 box that I remember. I think there's there's a lot 99 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:49.560 of storage compartments. 100 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:51.560 All over the boat, so I don't remember what all 101 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:55.800 is that, but I know that there might be some 102 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:59.160 knives in the glove box. There might be you know, 103 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:02.480 miscellane stuff like that. I just kept with the boat 104 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:03.680 at all times. 105 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:09.519 Okay, what we can do, also, if you're interested, is 106 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:12.040 once they go through it, we'll have pictures of everything 107 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:14.360 and we can show you that stuff too, if you 108 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:15.639 if that would be helpful. 109 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:17.399 I'm sure it probably be helpful to trying to figure 110 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:19.279 out what's in all this stuff when you can't see it, 111 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:21.439 So we could do that. 112 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:24.480 Yeah, it doesn't look like anyone's been in there at 113 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:25.279 all since I. 114 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:27.199 I was surprised how good the polstery seems like it's 115 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:28.519 in pretty good condition. Still. 116 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:33.279 Yeah, well that was all brand new when I was it. 117 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:36.959 That whole boat was gutted before I rebuilt it, So. 118 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:39.519 Why didn't you So you rebuilt it? 119 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:39.920 Like? 120 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:41.920 It doesn't look like a nineteen eighty two boat to me, 121 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:42.680 That's why I was. 122 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:45.519 Well, yeah, the interior was trashed and I got it, 123 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:48.079 so it's all new seats and upholstery and everything that 124 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:51.160 makes sense. And I think I had to replace some 125 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:53.680 glass and I don't. 126 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:55.759 Know, it's the carpeting and all that stuff. 127 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:58.920 I had to replaced the carpeting a couple of times, 128 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:04.519 at least on the back section. 129 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:07.920 Is that brand new carpeting on the back section now 130 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:10.000 or is it doing something that should be looked at? 131 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:13.000 Well, you might find stuff under the carpeting, but okay, 132 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.839 there was new carpet and then I got going on it, 133 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:16.720 so got it? 134 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:25.199 Okay, all right, that will be helpful. So do you 135 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:26.600 want to copy of this? I actually the other day, 136 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:26.920 but now. 137 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:35.560 All right, we had a couple of things, a few 138 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:37.439 things you wanted to talk to you about today. I 139 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:41.680 think Jeff mentioned kind of different than what the meetings, 140 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:43.959 you know, our meetings normally are just some of it's 141 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.279 kind of follow up stuff to what you have talked 142 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:48.680 about before, just making clarification kind of stuff and just 143 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:50.920 wrapping some of that stuff up, and then. 144 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:58.839 Just a couple of new things. But Loki, nothing's. 145 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:59.360 Start with the Eagle River. 146 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:05.079 Yeah, you got more photos, just play some familiar. 147 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:15.480 Yeah, the stuff was still there. There's more pictures down there. 148 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:25.279 A few months. 149 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.040 Yeah, I'm sure you saw that big ditch right next 150 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:29.360 to there. 151 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:31.639 Did you dig that ditch or was that there? 152 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:36.440 No, that was a burn and that was my plan 153 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:38.679 was to use that cause it was already dug. 154 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:40.240 So I was gonna just have to fill it in. 155 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:43.120 Right. There was a there was a big metal plate 156 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.000 down the road that I was gonna use to cover 157 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:46.519 it once I buried it. 158 00:08:47.080 --> 00:08:50.279 Keep it from getting dug like a sheet metal. Yeah. 159 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:52.840 There was down by that other guy's driveway. There was 160 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:55.279 a big pile of trash in the woods. There was 161 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:57.600 a piece of metal that I was gonna use to throw. 162 00:08:57.399 --> 00:09:00.759 Over it and bury it. I tried to move that would. 163 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:04.039 Well, it was thin piece of metal, but there was 164 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:07.080 lots of it was buried and yeah, ship on it 165 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:12.000 that like some countertops and stuff in therea and so this, 166 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:15.279 I mean it's still there, but it's that. That was 167 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:17.960 this time frame, if I remember right from our interview, 168 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:18.279 is this. 169 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:21.679 Like the May twenty eleven time frame. 170 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:26.600 Yeah, prior to just prior to the careers, right and 171 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:29.840 so and with this thing, I guess I misunderstood when 172 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:30.960 you were talking about it earlier. 173 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:32.960 If you wouldn't mind explain it again, what was the 174 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:34.480 this was? 175 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:38.279 This was this place open, like the gates were open continuously. 176 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:40.559 There's no snow when you put. 177 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:44.679 This in at the park there, Yeah, because it's May. 178 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:46.879 Sometimes in early May it was open. 179 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:47.799 Yeah. 180 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:52.600 Was there snow on the ground, No, No, okay, and 181 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:53.120 you think it was. 182 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:57.080 No, there wasn't much snow that year, but there wasn't 183 00:09:57.120 --> 00:10:00.519 a lot of traffic there. I know I stay for 184 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:02.399 a couple of nights, but I think there was only 185 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:04.240 one or two cars that came by. 186 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:08.120 Kay And when you staked it out, have you parked 187 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:10.200 your vehicle there or perfect somewhere else? 188 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:12.159 No? 189 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:16.360 I parked a vehicle down the road by the nature center, 190 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:19.320 and then I rode my bike back down. That's why 191 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:23.120 all that stuff was stashed there ahead of time, cause 192 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:25.519 I didn't wanna have my car in the area. 193 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:30.679 How and how many days or nights or whatever did 194 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:32.159 you were? 195 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:36.639 You guys up there for two or three nights. I 196 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:39.360 didn't stay all night, just til after. 197 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:43.080 Dark, and just there wasn't but much traffic there, so 198 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:44.759 never an opportunity never arose. 199 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:53.559 Yeah, there was only one. There was only one time 200 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:56.720 that I almost did it, but there was it was 201 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:00.279 two people, and it would have been a lot of work. 202 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:05.679 I kind of changed my mind on that. 203 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:07.080 Yeah, it was. 204 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:10.120 And then during this time frame, this is also the 205 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:13.159 time frame you talked about, uh point warns off for 206 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:14.080 out in. 207 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:21.679 That Harry, right, Yeah, right after you're about the silencer. Yeah, 208 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:23.200 that was. 209 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:30.080 I think I went up Togo River after that incident because, 210 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:37.840 uh cause a lot of police started around ancor D after. 211 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:40.919 Dark, so and the and the time out of the 212 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:43.600 point warns off. How late was that when that? 213 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.000 I mean, how was it about eleven o'clock? Was about 214 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:50.399 eleven o'clock? Yeah? Okay? And you think that was mid help? 215 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:53.799 How far before you left for you left on June 216 00:11:53.879 --> 00:11:56.840 third to go to Vermont? How many days or weeks 217 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:57.960 was that before that? 218 00:11:58.639 --> 00:11:58.720 Uh? 219 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:03.320 It would have been in May some probably mid May? 220 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:06.080 And do you know for sure if it was an 221 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:07.159 APD officer or. 222 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:11.919 Was it it was two of them? 223 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:15.919 Definitely not airport police. 224 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:19.559 No, I'm pretty sure I saw the car. I think 225 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:22.759 it said it had the big it may it may 226 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:24.799 have been an airport police if their cars. 227 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:26.320 Looked the same, but I don't know. It looked like 228 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:29.039 an APN me. Do you remember what kind of car 229 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:31.159 was there other than the police car? What car would 230 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:32.000 you watch it? 231 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:35.000 It was a super station wagon? I think what color? 232 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:39.919 Navy blue or darker? 233 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:46.960 Maybe? Yeah? Are any more of these in Anchorage AIA? 234 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:52.559 No? 235 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:54.039 Okay? 236 00:12:55.879 --> 00:12:58.720 And maybe not specifically like this? Is there any underground 237 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:04.279 I know how sometimes you'd like to be about that. 238 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:11.240 Questions are not specificate. There's nothing exactly like that. Is 239 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:18.279 there a five gallon bucket? I might need those again 240 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:18.720 some day. 241 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:26.080 Studio both and is sponsored by Betterhelp. 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Sign up 268 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:57.039 and get ten percent off at betterhelp dot com slash tcb. 269 00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:01.279 That's better h e LP dot com slash tcb. 270 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:04.159 We just you know, I mean, I know, you don't. 271 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:06.120 I just don't want somebody else. 272 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:07.320 I know. 273 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:10.639 In one of our conversations, you made a comment about 274 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:14.720 how people like buried treasure and somebody somebody might find 275 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:17.600 one of those some day and think it's their lucky 276 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:20.519 day and they hit the motherlodes. 277 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:23.080 It wouldn't be their lucky day. What's in it? 278 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:30.399 Well, different things, but you know, thank money, it's not 279 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.759 it's nothing that will get them into trouble. So no 280 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:34.720 loaded guns. 281 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:41.039 No, I don't. I don't bury him loaded. Thanks, I 282 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:43.559 don't even think. I usually bury him with the magazines loaded. 283 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:46.320 I did that once and then the springs were all 284 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:47.279 screwed up after that. 285 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:57.039 We like buried treasures also, we kind of had fun 286 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:00.399 with it. So you're looking for something I'll to do 287 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:02.879 with just kind of off to ask. I mean, it's 288 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:05.600 not giving up much, but it's something for us to do. 289 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:09.559 If you told us that once before. Everybody likes a 290 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:10.360 barry treasure. 291 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:16.240 Why I started burying stuff I was a kid. 292 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:18.360 I always used to dream that I'd find buried treasuring. 293 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:20.080 Fare Well, if I can't find it, I might as 294 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:21.120 well create it. 295 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:27.559 What about outside of Anchorage? 296 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:31.279 Do you have other juice stuff like this outside of 297 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:32.759 Anchorage anywhere else in Alaska? 298 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:40.039 Oh, give us something to do. You guys have lots here. 299 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:42.720 This week is at more fun. 300 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:46.200 Actually, you just want to get out with the in 301 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:49.159 the world. The weather's so nice up here. We'd like 302 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:51.720 to spend time outside. Yeah, it is, and you should 303 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:52.679 all take a field trip. 304 00:16:54.279 --> 00:17:04.519 Although the mesquitoes were kind of bad, and. 305 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:04.799 I I. 306 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:08.799 Stuff like that. I normally don't. 307 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:11.920 I I only left that stuff there because I was 308 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:17.839 planning on using eventually. I just I normally don't like 309 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:21.920 to litter. I didn't really consider that littering, though, cause 310 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:23.799 I figured i'd be back to bring it. 311 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:24.359 Up pretty soon. 312 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:31.359 Did you go back to that spot at all after 313 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:34.359 you put it out there, like between after you left 314 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:37.200 for the couriers in June to when you got arrested, 315 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:39.039 Had you been back there to look at that stuff. 316 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:40.519 Or to move it or A yeah, I've been back 317 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:45.000 up there to make sure it was still there or 318 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:45.559 to do more. 319 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:49.519 Not well, was just looking out checking out the area. 320 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:51.319 I I could tell it was still there just by 321 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:56.240 driving by. Seems like I could see seems like a 322 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:58.960 schi Yeah, I remember I looked slowed down and looked 323 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:00.640 back in the lids and saw the lad a couple 324 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:04.759 of times. Oh, I didn't figure it would go anywhere 325 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:08.759 because it wasn't really close to the road, So. 326 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:16.480 To stake it out any more times after that? 327 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:19.000 Uh? 328 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:21.799 Not not officially. 329 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:25.400 I just uh would hang out up there for an 330 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:25.759 hour or. 331 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:27.200 Two here and there, just to see what kind of 332 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:33.119 traffic there was, any any other places around here that 333 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:34.119 you did that kind of thing. 334 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:39.400 I mean the steak out looking at trail heads or. 335 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:43.599 Whatever, knocking out to having the equipment there. 336 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:48.160 Oh yeah, well there was. I used to go up 337 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:59.960 to a Glutna quite a man. Uh yeah, the high 338 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:04.559 heads up there. Yeah, the lake and stuff. 339 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:10.160 I had. 340 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:14.640 I was planning on doing a kayak trip up there eventually. 341 00:19:17.319 --> 00:19:19.720 Did you have kayaks? Yeah? 342 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:20.440 I had a kayak. 343 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:20.680 Yeah. 344 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:23.599 Well, let's Kimberley's kayak. 345 00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:24.160 Uh. 346 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:35.440 I would use it quite often. Best thing in the 347 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:40.599 lieu of a motor boat. Actually better than a motor boat, 348 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:43.319 cause that motor boat, that Bayliner, mind, it broke down 349 00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:44.720 in the middle of the lake. That was a long 350 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:52.039 paddle to get it back to shore. Packs a lot faster, Yeah. 351 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:54.359 Especially if it's windy or you have any type of 352 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:56.640 weather with that big of a boat. 353 00:19:57.160 --> 00:19:59.680 Yeah. 354 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:06.440 So, no other buried treasures you'd like to share with us, No, 355 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:06.920 not yet. 356 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:14.559 That one wasn't bury treasure. 357 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:16.480 I was just feeling bad about leaving it out there. 358 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:17.839 You just wanted to clean that. 359 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:20.599 Yeah, it's an environmental thing. 360 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:27.240 Yeah, cause that means you don't want to give up 361 00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:29.240 the bucket in Texas. 362 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:37.160 No, but if I get close to where it's at 363 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:38.440 which is there's not a. 364 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:42.279 Tractioning device on it. 365 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:43.680 You. 366 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:45.839 Uh, No, I have a pretty good memory. 367 00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:47.119 I could play it pretty good. 368 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:52.960 Cash places. I have a good memory when I need to. 369 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:57.680 If we came close to where one was, would you 370 00:20:57.720 --> 00:20:58.359 tell us. 371 00:20:59.880 --> 00:21:00.440 I don't. 372 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:01.640 I don't know what you mean. 373 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:05.200 Like if we were able to tell you in Airy 374 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:07.000 area that we're pretty sure there's one. 375 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:10.400 In, would you tell us, well, I assume you know. 376 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:14.599 I've been kind of all over the place when I 377 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:19.119 do go places. I don't know what you consider it close? 378 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:24.359 Like state coun No, no, no, I mean just deducting 379 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:25.240 where things. 380 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:27.079 Especially just in Texas, cause we have a little more 381 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:30.480 information on specifically where you were at in Texas through 382 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:33.680 cell phone towers and those kind of things. Like when 383 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:38.880 you left to Dallas to drive to Houston after the 384 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:42.359 bank in Azelle, you didn't drive forty five straight to Houston, 385 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:50.599 and you had to do something with that money from 386 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:55.599 Bazel because when you came back, yeah, had the money 387 00:21:55.599 --> 00:22:01.480 with you, so you picked it up down there. M 388 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:03.640 didn't have it in your suitcase and get all moldy 389 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:04.559 and wet. 390 00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:07.920 Oh that's that was just the small bills. 391 00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:10.359 So the twenties are still in a bucket place. 392 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:12.359 On that route. 393 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:13.799 Small bills are a nuisance. 394 00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:19.359 People. Notice when you pull out a huge water small. 395 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:21.759 Bills, and you didn't leave it in the Dallas area 396 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:23.759 cause you weren't playing and going back there. 397 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.440 You knew your mom's gonna be going down to Wells. 398 00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:32.839 Well the money was moldy because it wasn't really I 399 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:34.359 didn't even know if I was gonna go back to 400 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:34.920 get it. 401 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:37.960