WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.240 The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. 2 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:05.000 Right, this is a Colin Moncria. Whose line is it? 3 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:07.080 Anyway you're listening to tech talk radio. 4 00:00:07.719 --> 00:00:08.880 I don't know how it works. 5 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:11.119 Oh magical shock to me. 6 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:15.519 Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm justin Lemme, 7 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:21.160 I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean Weird. Oh that was weird, 8 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:24.000 out of order. I mean we never do that. 9 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:25.879 You got to change it up once in a while, 10 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:26.920 you know, every once in a while. 11 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:27.679 Yeah. Because then. 12 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:32.039 All right, so next week you've got a Sean all. 13 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:34.159 Right, how are you guys doing? 14 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:35.439 Man good, It's good to see you. 15 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:35.960 I know you. 16 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:38.479 You had a busy week. Sean just got back from 17 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:39.560 vacation like wood. 18 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:45.159 No, we were not glamping this time, ten ten days 19 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:48.359 in the Upper Peninsula. It was not lambing it. Yes, 20 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:52.640 there were cabins, right, but okay, it was a very 21 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:53.640 limited technology. 22 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:55.679 Well, do tell tell how does it go? 23 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:57.600 It was great. We've talked about this strip before because 24 00:00:57.600 --> 00:00:59.399 we go to the same place every year. It's my 25 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:03.439 wife's family cabins that they rent, so they're her wife's 26 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:05.920 from the Escanaba, Michigan, which is part of the Peninsula 27 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:07.879 and so they rent out all the cabins of a 28 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:11.519 resort called Sunset Pines in Curtis, Michigan. There's about sixty 29 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:14.560 five people that come to this, so it's all extended. 30 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:17.280 It's her dad's side of the family. He has seven siblings. 31 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:19.920 It's a big family. But it's in a rural part 32 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:22.680 of northern Michigan. So it's one bar of cell phone 33 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:23.359 service if you're. 34 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.400 Lucky and they hell for you. 35 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:30.280 The owners do have a starlink, but it's not accessible 36 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:32.519 to people that come and stay there. You can use 37 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:35.359 the hues net, which is like garbage satellite Internet. 38 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:37.200 Wait, so the owners of this place, they make a 39 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:40.560 point of letting everybody know, yeah, we got starlink, but 40 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:41.519 you can't use it. 41 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:44.799 I mean, it's even starlink if you try to distribute 42 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:46.359 it across I mean you'd have to add a bunch 43 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:49.159 of mesh networks. It'd be not super easy to do. 44 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:51.480 But it costs, like it costs money to do. 45 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:53.799 Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you only get well starlink, you 46 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:56.359 only get a limited amount of bandwidth, you know, like 47 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:58.719 you sign up for tiers of bandwidth and if you 48 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:01.480 got what'd you say, sixty five cabins up there. 49 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:04.799 I mean, no, it's it's twelve cabins. But sixty five people. 50 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:07.480 Oh sorry, so okay, yeah, yeah, well sixty five people 51 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:08.479 that's with their own device. 52 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:10.960 Oh yeah, that's gonna eat up your band with real quick. Yeah. 53 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:12.759 So, I mean, I'm sure they could charge for it, 54 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:14.560 but you know, it's the whole point is to not 55 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:15.800 be connected on this trip. 56 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:16.039 Right. 57 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:18.840 So it's you're going fishing, you're on the beach, you're wait, 58 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:21.400 are you telling me that you can actually go somewhere 59 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:23.639 and not be connected to the internet. 60 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:24.759 How do you do that? 61 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:27.039 Whoa? I never knew it that. 62 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.240 It's fantastic. Oh my gosh, I got. 63 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:32.719 I wonder how many how many of our listeners would 64 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:36.000 ever attempt that. I mean that means, I mean you 65 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.439 have to have your smartphone with you, right, I mean 66 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:41.800 you take that technology. But how do you say, Okay, 67 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:43.680 I'm not gonna take this. I'm not gonna take that. 68 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:46.199 You still have a plex server that you take? 69 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:46.479 Right? 70 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:47.360 No, didn't take that? 71 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:49.280 Whoa? Really well I took it. 72 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:52.479 So so for the boys, right, so they nighttime, we 73 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:55.319 let them watch an episode of YouTube or something. So 74 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:58.159 I've downloaded a bunch of that onto an iPad A 75 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:00.479 and I have. I don't need it to be on. 76 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:02.520 It doesn't have internet, doesn't like Wi Fi, but it 77 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:04.319 doesn't have cell phone service on it. So it's a 78 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:06.240 handful of episodes that they could watch. We had our 79 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:07.560 phones and an iPad. 80 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:10.719 I just I'm just so flabbergasted because when I was 81 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:13.319 a kid and my parents we went camping, and Andy, 82 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:14.400 you can attest to this too. 83 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:15.879 We went camping. 84 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:19.120 First off, we didn't have smartphones back when I was 85 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:21.599 a kid when we were camping, and we didn't have TV. 86 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:24.360 So like when we went camping, it was like we 87 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:28.319 would go out and look at bugs. We would find 88 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:32.319 ant hills, and we would find sticks and try to 89 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:36.919 find the best stick and of the coolest rock. Like 90 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:40.199 this is what the world is missing nowadays, like everybody 91 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:43.919 is so into their devices. Like couple nights ago, Eric 92 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:45.919 was like, I'm bored because I told him no TV. 93 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:49.400 I'm bored. Go out and find go out and find insects. 94 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:52.919 And he's like what He's like, are we cavemen? And 95 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:57.919 I was like, oh my god, oh it is so true. 96 00:03:58.319 --> 00:03:59.080 It's so true. 97 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:02.800 To cerate your point, Like my boys like to watch YouTube. 98 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:05.719 They like to watch the fun videos that they find. 99 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:09.719 And but we will just turn music on stream Pandora 100 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:12.240 or put music on that we have around the house 101 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:15.080 and they will do puzzles, they'll rebooks, they do everything 102 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:18.879 else but watch TV. So there, it's not always on YouTube. Yeah, 103 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:21.279 back to my story. So you're lucky if you get 104 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:23.360 one bar of cell phone service there, right, So if 105 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:25.279 you want to get one, if you want to get service, 106 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:27.519 you have to drive into town, which is like six 107 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:30.800 or seven miles. And I was having issues with my phone. Right, 108 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:33.839 Caitlin was able to connect and get one bar of 109 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:36.639 service to check in with my parents because my phone 110 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:37.439 was having issues. 111 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:39.680 So, come to find out, and your phone is a 112 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:43.000 what again and iPhone thirteen ro, but you have the 113 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:44.000 iOS and I'm. 114 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.639 Running and I'm running the iOS twenty six developer beta. 115 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:49.120 So I was trying to figure out what was going 116 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:51.240 on my phone. The battery was dying super fast, like 117 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:53.839 I couldn't figure out what was going on. Even on 118 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:56.240 their crappy Wi Fi it was working very well, and 119 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:58.759 so I just did some investigation. Come to find out, 120 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:01.000 my phone just decided you no longer have a. 121 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:03.199 Sim oh oh you're kidding me. 122 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:04.680 It couldn't have. 123 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:07.800 So no longer have a SIM. No cell phone plan 124 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:09.279 was attached to my phone period. 125 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:13.600 So now were you running a physical SIM or a eSIM. 126 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:17.079 So this the story gets a little more complicated. Way 127 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:19.199 back when I bought my good back when I bought 128 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:22.079 my phone in twenty twenty two, I bought it, got 129 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:25.079 the physical sim. Two days later, it fell off the 130 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:28.040 counter at work in the bathroom, onto the toa floor 131 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:30.120 and shattered at the backlass. So they hadn't bought a 132 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:31.920 case for it yet. So I took it to back 133 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:33.600 to the Apple store because I had Apple Care, and 134 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:36.079 they said, nop, no, it's covered under Apple Care. No problem. 135 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:38.639 We don't have spare parts for the phones yet because 136 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:40.759 I just bought it was the week of release, so 137 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:42.199 I got a whole new phone. I got a whole 138 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:43.360 new iPhone thirteen. 139 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:45.680 Break a phone like within four days of it coming out. 140 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:48.720 But at that point they didn't They wouldn't activate a 141 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:51.120 new physical SIM, so they just activated an eSIM. 142 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:53.240 Cool problem solved enough, right, Yeah. 143 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:55.639 Three years later we're here, this is the problem having 144 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:59.319 because not finding the SIM whatever. Drive into town to 145 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:02.439 the public library and Curtis, Michigan, which is like smaller 146 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:07.399 than my house, and get on there really old computer 147 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:09.560 and Connective Horizon and get somebody. 148 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:11.879 And I'm just picturing the dial up sound. 149 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:21.279 As Connective Horizon, and you know, they have me check 150 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:24.079 my email and scan a QR code with my phone 151 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:26.120 and it tries to activate the sim over the Wi 152 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:30.240 Fi just sits there and spins. Doesn't do anything, So 153 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:34.519 you'd restart my phone, try it again, issued me a 154 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:37.759 new second. Doesn't work, couldn't make it work, and I 155 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:39.279 wasn't gonna. I was like, you know what, I don't 156 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:42.240 have service anyways. It doesn't matter, Like I'll just deal 157 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:43.319 with it when I drive back home. 158 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:47.600 So two days ago, you felt naked, right, you felt naked. 159 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:48.000 I didn't. 160 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:48.360 I didn't. 161 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:50.920 I really I really didn't. I really didn't. It really 162 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:52.920 didn't bother me that I was disconnected. I mean, we 163 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:54.839 had Calen's phone, so if there was an emergency, it 164 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:56.839 wasn't a big deal. So I go to the Apple 165 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.480 Store and they're like, well, you're running the developer bat 166 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:02.079 so why don't wait? Just because they ran a hardware 167 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:04.720 skin and it said there was a hardware failure whatever, whatever, 168 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:07.240 He's like, all right, let's let's restore your phone back 169 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:10.360 to iOS eighteen. Oh so they restored it back to 170 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:13.439 iOS eighteen, and now it was saying there were two 171 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:21.240 sims in it. What the two sims that we registered 172 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:24.600 with Verizon worked, But there was an issue with the 173 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:27.720 developer beta that was no longer showing the sims. 174 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:31.480 Oh no, now that there were now that there were, 175 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:34.879 Now that there were two sims on there, I could 176 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:38.480 make phone calls, but I message and text messages didn't 177 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:40.600 know where to go because there were two sims and 178 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:42.000 that they was conflicting. 179 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:44.680 Oh boy, then it was a Verizon problem. Right, So 180 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:46.360 I go over to Verizon and they're like, oh, this 181 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:50.000 is weird. Cool, let me pop out your physical SIM card. 182 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:53.160 I was like, wait, I don't have a physical SIM card. 183 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:55.800 Pops the store open. There's a physical SIM card? 184 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:56.600 Are you kidding me? 185 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:58.839 I had a physical SIM card the whole time. 186 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:01.959 Was it the the SIM from the other one? It 187 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:02.680 had to have been. 188 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:06.759 I don't know, I thought, but my phone never had 189 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:09.800 a physical SIM attached to it. It was always an SIM. 190 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:12.079 So they moved the SIM card over. 191 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:14.439 Is this some David Blaine stuff? 192 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.319 So anyway, she's the lady. Fors Is like, we have 193 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:20.199 to activate a new sim. We'll give you a new 194 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:22.879 physical sim card. It's like perfect, great, new physical sim card. Perfect, 195 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:25.680 let's do it. Solve the problem. An hour at Verizon 196 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:27.360 and it was up and running. It was fine. Update 197 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:28.839 back to the developer beta. 198 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:30.439 Run my, How would you do that? 199 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:35.480 Because my iCloud backup is in developer beta. I couldn't know. 200 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:37.960 This is why you don't do betas. 201 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:41.639 Oh so I don't have a current you know, I'm 202 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:44.159 a month in on the developer beta. I don't have 203 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:45.840 a current iOS eight team backup. 204 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:49.159 Yeah, betas back. 205 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.080 Onto the iOS twenty six beta. Can't figure out how 206 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:55.840 to restore my To get my iCloud backup, I had 207 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:58.759 to erase the phone once I moved it up to 208 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:02.399 iOS twenty six to then restore from making a new 209 00:09:02.440 --> 00:09:04.320 device and then restore from my iclub backup. 210 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:07.039 Wait, I'm sorry, hold on, we'll say you said that 211 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:12.000 they they they reverted your phone back to iOS eighteen. Correct, 212 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:17.320 that was the iOS back four years ago? No, no, no, no, 213 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:19.320 what is the current iOS right now? 214 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:20.879 iOS eighteen? 215 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:22.200 So why are you talking about? 216 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:24.679 You're on iOS twenty six that's the beta for what 217 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:26.360 that's the beta. 218 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:30.840 So iOS twenty six is going to be the new iOS. 219 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:34.519 Coming in what happened in nineteen? It went from me, 220 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:35.600 they went to fiveteen. 221 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:36.759 They went from eighteen to twenty six. 222 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:38.320 Name this is why I don't like Apple. 223 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:39.480 They pulled a Microsoft. 224 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:44.919 So I upgrade it, I restore or you know, reset 225 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:48.279 all the settings and then reimage it to my iclub 226 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:50.720 backup and everything's fuck fine because when I went to Apple, 227 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:54.200 they had said, hey, your battery is at like seventy 228 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:56.799 total seventy percent total battery life, bring it back in, 229 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:58.960 will replace the battery for free because it's covered in 230 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.639 your Apple care. I said, deployment for Monday. Went back 231 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:03.960 in Monday. They're like, oh great, everything worked out. You 232 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:06.240 were you know, glad you worked out yesterday for you? 233 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:10.080 Oh you put it back on the developer beta. We 234 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:13.679 we won't service any devices on the developer beta. We 235 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:16.679 dorade back to I was. 236 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:19.559 Eighteen, so you had to go back to eighteen again. 237 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:21.639 I had to go back to eighteen. Things the hold 238 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:22.759 up back to eighteen? 239 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:24.519 Do replace a battery? 240 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:26.360 I whatever? 241 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.080 This is why everybody, you don't do betas. 242 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:32.759 No, this is why you don't go with Apple? 243 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:36.639 Oh, come on, everybody, every company does some kind of 244 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:39.200 beta that's that gets messed up. 245 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:41.440 No, yes, this is why you don't go with Apple. 246 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:43.480 So then I had to, you know, I left the Apples. 247 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:44.759 You know, it took him in an hour to do 248 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:47.000 the battery. So I walked down the mall, which was weird. 249 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:47.759 Spend more money? 250 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:49.399 Did you buy an androids? 251 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:51.879 Yeah? Mostly empty stores, right. 252 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:54.360 Mostly empty stores. Yeah, I walked too, like an fye, 253 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.320 which was awful. It's just like cheap garbage, like pop 254 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:00.240 culture garbage. I mean, it was just it was an 255 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:01.639 interesting experience walking around the mall. 256 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:02.000 Yeah. 257 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:03.519 Got lunch at the food court, which is good. 258 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:05.799 Oh yeah, what'd you get? What'd you get there? 259 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:08.080 Which one Asian something? 260 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:08.639 I don't Yeah? 261 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:10.559 Yeah, yeah, of course that's all they have that in 262 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:13.240 the ciborrow they got to have borrow to borrow and 263 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:14.960 in a random Asian restaurant. 264 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:16.480 That's all they have at food courts anymore. 265 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:19.879 But uh so ended up coming coming home, had to 266 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:21.679 do the same thing, had to update it to iOS 267 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:25.600 twenty six. We still we okay, can we redo my 268 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:26.320 iCloud again? 269 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:29.440 Well wait a minute, couldn't you have gone. Couldn't you 270 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:32.399 have gone onto a Mac and then connect it to 271 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:33.919 your iCloud and gotten it that way. 272 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:39.759 You can't go from iOS eighteen, okay, iCloud backup, that's 273 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:42.159 in a different version. You have to go to that version. 274 00:11:42.039 --> 00:11:43.519 Of It's like on that device. 275 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.080 I had to go up to iOS twenty six Developer Beta, 276 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.720 then wipe it so it was as a new device, right, 277 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:52.320 and then restore it from my iCloud. 278 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:55.080 You know, if Tim Cook is listening to this show, 279 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:56.759 probably laughing his butt. 280 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:59.279 Off right now, probably frustrating. 281 00:11:59.320 --> 00:11:59.919 That has got to be. 282 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:03.279 That is so frust that's the same frustrations I ran 283 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:06.919 in two shone with this new laptop. All right, number one. 284 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:09.480 I mean I wanted to ask you guys. I got 285 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:12.240 a Lenovo five point thirty right. I bought it back 286 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:17.399 in twenty nineteen, and it was great. Everything was great. 287 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.360 One morning I used it, I had it on a 288 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:23.120 table and then somebody said, oh, I need a file. 289 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:25.240 Can you send me the file? So I went, got 290 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:27.159 it off that laptop, put it on a flash drive, 291 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:30.279 went to my desktop and did it that way. I 292 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:33.559 get to work and I open up and plug everything in, 293 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:36.639 I open it up wouldn't power up, couldn't figure out 294 00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:40.440 what the heck was going on. No power checked the charger. 295 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:42.360 I had a light there. I had a light that 296 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:47.639 it was charging nothing, nothing at all. So I had 297 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:49.919 to go without. I had to go without a laptop. 298 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:52.000 It was like for a whole show. It was crazy. 299 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:56.080 So I get it home and I start, you know, 300 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:58.440 reading about it, and I go ahead and I open 301 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:01.840 it up. I look, everything's connet right, it looks good. 302 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:06.440 And I read about this Novo button that Milanovos have 303 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:09.440 on the side of them, so you have a power button. 304 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:11.759 And the way that this one's designed is terrible. It's 305 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:16.279 got the keyboard up on top. It's basically a sealed keyboard, right, 306 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:18.919 it's not like the keyboard that pops through. And you've 307 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.440 got a power button. So the only way to get 308 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:27.200 to this button is by removing the motherboard this, you know, 309 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:30.399 the fan system, everything, and so I don't know it's 310 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:33.639 the button screwed up. So I press the Novo button 311 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:36.879 and a power I get a power light and it 312 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:39.919 comes on and I'm like, well, there's no message, no warning, nothing, 313 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:43.399 It's working. So I'm all happy and I think, okay, 314 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:45.919 whatever it was it's it's fixed. I shut it off. 315 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:49.120 The next day, I decided to take a look at it. 316 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:52.240 I got power up, no power, so I thought, hmm, 317 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:54.679 maybe that Novo button has something to do with it. 318 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:58.240 I pull the back off of it again and I 319 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:03.840 push that button and nothing, and I'm I'm like frustrated, sothing. 320 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:06.200 It's got to be maybe the Sea Moss battery. So 321 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.559 I go ahead and I order a Sea Moss battery. 322 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:11.399 Then I'm thinking, well, maybe it's the battery itself. You know, 323 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:14.399 it didn't feel swelling. So I ordered the battery right 324 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:17.480 that comes from I Fix It seventy dollars, so I 325 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:19.960 get that. I get that in a couple of days, 326 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:21.840 and I hook it all up and it powers up. 327 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:24.200 But it doesn't power up with a power button on top. 328 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:27.200 It powers up with the Novo button, So I think, okay, 329 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:29.559 there's something else here. And then it's when I shut 330 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:32.159 it down, right, I go to start it up again, 331 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:35.679 same thing. I have to disconnect the Sea Moss and 332 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:39.399 the battery, wait a second, reconnect it, and then power it. 333 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:41.600 Hit that Novo button and it powers up. So I 334 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:44.200 have no idea it full. Once it's powered up, it 335 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:45.559 performs great. 336 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.320 I don't know exactly in your particular case, but it 337 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:50.679 does sound like it's a failing motherboard. But I can 338 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:53.919 tell you right now, I've had the exact, almost exact 339 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:59.720 same experience with my laptop recently. So I have a 340 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:06.080 work laptop. I have an Aceus rog Strix, really nice. 341 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:07.080 You know, it's I think I. 342 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.080 Remember when you got it. It's top of the line. 343 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:13.440 It's top of the line. It's classified as a gaming laptop. 344 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:16.039 I don't necessarily use it for gaming. I use it 345 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:18.679 for a lot of photoshop, video editing things that I 346 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:20.639 have to do it where because I have to troubleshoot 347 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:24.960 a lot of other people's problems so they have a 348 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:27.679 problem with like photoshop. I have to have Photoshop so 349 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:30.240 I can figure out what's going on with it. Right anyway, 350 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.840 top of the line laptop. All of a sudden, just recently, 351 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:37.559 it was about probably about a month ago, two months ago. 352 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:40.240 Maybe I would just notice that I would shut it 353 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:41.559 down and when I would go to turn it back 354 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:46.200 on the keyboard because it's an RGB keyboard, the keyboard 355 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:50.039 would flash up and then nothing and it would just 356 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:52.639 it would it would be nothing. The black screen no 357 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:55.279 boot logo, nothing. It would just go back to being dead. 358 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:58.960 And I pressed the button again power button and then 359 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:01.960 the same thing. Or to flash up nothing, I would 360 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:05.399 have to hold down the power button for sixty seconds, 361 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:09.600 not thirty sixty, because sixty will reset the sea moss. 362 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:12.679 It like clears it almost it clears the sea mos. Yeah, 363 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:15.200 and then boom it would power up just fine. But 364 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:19.279 day and time was wrong because oh yeah, it clears 365 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:22.639 the sea moss. So I would find that it would happen. 366 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:25.879 It started happening once, then it would happen again, and 367 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:28.279 then again again again, and then again again again again 368 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:31.120 again again. It would happen more and more often as 369 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:33.799 time went on, and so I started looking up this 370 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:39.159 this this problem, and there was no concrete evidence about it. 371 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:43.080 But it does sound similar to what your problem is, Andy. 372 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:47.799 It from what I can deduce from looking at resources 373 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:52.399 using AI and also forums, it's a problem with the motherboard. 374 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:56.080 It could be problem with the CPU coming loose from 375 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:00.240 the motherboard because these computers, especially mine. I don't know 376 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:02.879 about yours, but mine was like again classified as a 377 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:06.480 gaming laptop. It had a very powerful graphics card. The 378 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:11.200 fans were always blowing like crazy. It could be overheating 379 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:16.279 and eventually melted some of the contacts of the motherboard 380 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:20.119 that could be and so I finally was like, look, 381 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:22.079 I can't. I can't do this anymore. I can't. 382 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:23.559 I have to have a. 383 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.160 Laptop that works for work. So I went to my 384 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:28.200 boss and I said, look, I know I just bought 385 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:31.039 this laptop for like nineteen hundred dollars a couple of 386 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:33.880 years ago. It's not working, and I have to have 387 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:36.279 as the IT manager. I have to have a laptop 388 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:39.599 that works. So I said, do I have your permission 389 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:41.240 to get in the laptop? And he's like, yeah, that's fine. 390 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:45.559 So I bought an HP Omen sixteen Max. You went 391 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:50.200 with an HP that surprises me a fan of HP. 392 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:51.160 Oh yeah. 393 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:54.559 But I did a lot of research on this and 394 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:56.359 I said, look, I need to stay within a certain 395 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:58.000 amount of budget because I don't have a lot of 396 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:00.920 money in my budget for work. I said, I need 397 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:04.000 to be a powerful computer. I needed to be able 398 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:06.440 to have a great graphics card for you know, doing 399 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.720 photo and video editing, just in case I need it. 400 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:11.759 But I do need it to have a good CPU. Now, 401 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:14.839