Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog.
Speaker 1: My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
Speaker 1: around out here. Did you see what it was or
Speaker 1: was it was? Standing enough? I'm out here looking through
Speaker 1: the window now and I don't see anything. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go outside. Jesus Quice, you bick Hello, hit
Speaker 1: the boddy out here? What quin? I'm out there? I
Speaker 1: thought of a bit about text nine. I don't know
Speaker 1: easy out there. Yeah, I'm walking right head.
Speaker 2: The guys from Sasquatch Recon are back, and they didn't
Speaker 2: come empty handed. In this episode, we're heading back into
Speaker 2: the field with a team that doesn't just talk about
Speaker 2: Bigfoot research. They live it. From the swampy lowlands of
Speaker 2: South Carolina to the rugged terrain of Rutherford County, North Carolina.
Speaker 2: These guys are bringing fresh encounters, hard earned experience, and
Speaker 2: moments that still don't sit right with them. What started
Speaker 2: as boots on the ground investigation quickly turned into something
Speaker 2: far more intense. Strange footprints, unexplained vocalizations, and interactions that
Speaker 2: pushed past the boundaries of what you'd expect from known wildlife.
Speaker 2: And as the evidence stacked up, so did the questions.
Speaker 2: They'll walk us through what they found, what they heard,
Speaker 2: and what they believe was watching them from just beyond
Speaker 2: the tree line. They also dive into their personal journeys
Speaker 2: into bigfoot research, the strategies they use in the field,
Speaker 2: and how some of these encounters begin to cross into
Speaker 2: the paranormal. This isn't secondhand storytelling. These are first hand
Speaker 2: experiences from people who keep going back because something out
Speaker 2: there keeps calling them back. So settle in, turn the
Speaker 2: lights down just a bit, and let's welcome back the
Speaker 2: guys from Sasquatch Recon.
Speaker 3: Approximately a year ago, we had an expedition that took
Speaker 3: place down in South Carolina at a hunting reservation. On
Speaker 3: that day, we were very fortunate because this area is
Speaker 3: a lowland area, very swampy, a lot of water, a
Speaker 3: lot of standing water a year round. However, last summer
Speaker 3: it was a very dry summer, so we were able.
Speaker 4: To access this.
Speaker 3: One area where normally you can't walk into without chest waiters.
Speaker 3: So Dwight and I took off and we start walking
Speaker 3: down through the swamp. He had his dog, Fendy with him,
Speaker 3: and they were to my left and I was to
Speaker 3: the right. As we were making a distance down through
Speaker 3: the swamp, Dwight and I separated.
Speaker 4: He was about fifty yards away from me.
Speaker 3: He dropped back behind me for a little ways and
Speaker 3: then i'd moved forward. I was specifically looking for footprints
Speaker 3: or any type of structures I could run across. I
Speaker 3: happened to run across a print. That print was the
Speaker 3: first one that I had found down in South Carolina,
Speaker 3: and I was extremely.
Speaker 4: Excited about it.
Speaker 3: So what I did was I took some red flagging
Speaker 3: tape and I flagged.
Speaker 4: A tree with it.
Speaker 3: It was still earlier in the afternoon, and I wanted
Speaker 3: to keep moving forward to see if I could find
Speaker 3: more prints or more evidence, hopefully a squatch or a
Speaker 3: dog man or something along those lines, some type of creature.
Speaker 3: I kept pressing forward. Then Dwight I could hear him.
Speaker 3: Every once in a while, we'd let out a little
Speaker 3: whoop to each other, just to let each other know
Speaker 3: our general location. I had taken my audio recorder and
Speaker 3: placed it on a stump about halfway into my walk,
Speaker 3: hoping to catch something on the audio recorder. So I
Speaker 3: leave my audio recorder on a stump and I keep
Speaker 3: pressing forward deeper in the woods. I'm going deeper, and
Speaker 3: I'm going deeper.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 3: I was walking for what felt like a good solid
Speaker 3: thirty forty five minutes. I had basically gotten to the
Speaker 3: point of where I was a long.
Speaker 4: Way from base camp. I knew that at that.
Speaker 3: Point I hadn't heard Dwight in thirty minutes. There was
Speaker 3: no interaction with me and him. Come to find out,
Speaker 3: he and Findy at that point had turned around and
Speaker 3: started going back to base camp. So I get to
Speaker 3: the end of my walk and I'm feeling solid about
Speaker 3: the footprint that I've already captured.
Speaker 4: I've got it flagged.
Speaker 3: All I've got to do is retrack my steps back
Speaker 3: to it, picked my audio recorder up if I don't
Speaker 3: get something, and then go check my track. So I'm
Speaker 3: at the end of my walk. This was when I
Speaker 3: first started researching, and I was in an environment by myself.
Speaker 3: I had seen all these other people, all these other researchers.
Speaker 3: They were doing the whoops, they were doing the calls,
Speaker 3: and I thought I'd give it a try. I figured,
Speaker 3: what the hey, I'm by myself, there's nobody around. I
Speaker 3: can make a complete fool out of myself. So I
Speaker 3: picked a branch up that was broken on the ground.
Speaker 3: It was about a good three inches in diameter. It
Speaker 3: was completely soaked. It was not a dry stick, and
Speaker 3: so I grabbed the stick. I hit the tree with it.
Speaker 3: It made just a thud, nothing loud. The sound didn't
Speaker 3: really carry. I wasn't happy with it, so I was like,
Speaker 3: screw that, I'll give it another go. So I took
Speaker 3: the tree land this time, and I hauled off and
Speaker 3: swung it as hard as I could to try to
Speaker 3: get a noise out of it. And I got a
Speaker 3: great noise out of that one. So I'm standing there
Speaker 3: and I'm happy with that result. I'm like, okay, waiting
Speaker 3: on a reply, waiting on possibly another wood knock. I
Speaker 3: hear absolutely nothing, dead quiet in the swamp. Mind you,
Speaker 3: I'm still standing there in this location, and my feet
Speaker 3: are maybe two inches in the mud. That's what I
Speaker 3: was standing in. So walking through the swamp made no noise.
Speaker 3: It was just silence. It was easy to navigate, very quiet.
Speaker 3: So as I'm standing there still beside the tree that
Speaker 3: I just did the two wood knocks on, what I
Speaker 3: did next was I said, I'm gonna let out a yell.
Speaker 3: I gave one of the kind of a reserve yell,
Speaker 3: stood there for a moment, had nothing reply back, and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, come on, I've gone this far.
Speaker 3: I've done tree knocks, I've done a yell. I'm going
Speaker 3: to do another yell. So that's when I let out
Speaker 3: the best yell, of the loudest, most vocalization that I
Speaker 3: could throw out. So I do that, nothing happens, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, that's fine, I'll just turn around and
Speaker 3: go back.
Speaker 4: That's the end of this.
Speaker 3: Just as I was about to turn around and retrace
Speaker 3: my footprints out of there, that's when I got screamed at.
Speaker 3: The scream came from the left hand side of me,
Speaker 3: and the tree was directly still to my left, and
Speaker 3: when it screamed, I completely froze. I just completely tensed up.
Speaker 4: My body was just tight. I shut my eyes and
Speaker 4: I was just standing there. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: what was that.
Speaker 3: Because I've heard Dwight call, and I've heard Dwight do
Speaker 3: hollers in the past. This was not anywhere even remotely
Speaker 3: close to what a human could let out. Matter of fact,
Speaker 3: Bob or other investigator in Sasquatch recon he probably lets
Speaker 3: out the loudest yell that I'd heard. This tripled what
Speaker 3: he could do. So once I heard it and the
Speaker 3: shock set in, I was just like, oh hell, this
Speaker 3: is not from the guys.
Speaker 4: This is from a creature.
Speaker 3: An animal of being, a something. There's something out here.
Speaker 3: It just completely floored me. So I opened my eyes
Speaker 3: up and I'm just looking straight out ahead of me
Speaker 3: and this tree is still to my left. I just
Speaker 3: said to myself, Okay, Chris, now is your time to
Speaker 3: prove to these guys that you're not scared, You're not
Speaker 3: a freeedy cat. You're not going to be talked about
Speaker 3: if you don't move forward on this sound.
Speaker 4: And that's what I did. I told myself.
Speaker 3: I said, Okay, I'm going to take two more steps
Speaker 3: and look at see if I can see what it
Speaker 3: is that made that sound that scared me so badly,
Speaker 3: and I had a firearm on me at the side.
Speaker 4: I remember doing this.
Speaker 3: I put my hand on my firearm and I said, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going to see what's out there. And I took
Speaker 3: two steps forward. And as I took two steps forward,
Speaker 3: that's when I told myself, there's no way I'm making
Speaker 3: another step towards this thing.
Speaker 4: There's no way.
Speaker 3: All I wanted to do is get back to base camp.
Speaker 3: And I turned around and did a three sixty in
Speaker 3: the mud right there and started stepping back in my
Speaker 3: footprints that I had made because I could vividly see him,
Speaker 3: and I was looking down because one of our fellow researchers,
Speaker 3: Tim Dills, I had asked him in the past. I said, man,
Speaker 3: when you saw your first bigfoot, I said, what advice
Speaker 3: would you give someone? Tim told me to drop your head,
Speaker 3: don't make eye contact, look at the direction you're wanting
Speaker 3: to travel into, and don't take your eyes off of it,
Speaker 3: and just walk slowly out of the woods. And that's
Speaker 3: exactly what I did. What I feel like happened was
Speaker 3: I was so deep in the woods by myself alone
Speaker 3: that when I did the two tree knocks that got
Speaker 3: its attention, and then when I did the yell with
Speaker 3: no reply back that after I did that second yell,
Speaker 3: apparently I upset it. It screamed at me with such
Speaker 3: a vibrating scream that it vibrated my chest, the hairs
Speaker 3: on my arms, and my neck stood up, and I
Speaker 3: was just goosebumped from head to toe. I've told this
Speaker 3: story a couple of times in a couple people that
Speaker 3: I told it to said you possibly were zapped.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what zapp was. I knew I was shocked.
Speaker 3: I knew that I was scared, and I knew that
Speaker 3: I was being honest with myself by wanting to get
Speaker 3: the hell out of there in one piece, because whatever
Speaker 3: creature this vocalization came out of it had to have volume,
Speaker 3: it had to be big, and it had to have
Speaker 3: one heck of a set of lungs on it to
Speaker 3: get that type of velocity to come through the woods
Speaker 3: or the swamp.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was basically scared shitless. So from that point I
Speaker 3: just started walking back. And as I was walking back,
Speaker 3: I walked back over and I found my audio recorder
Speaker 3: where I'd left it.
Speaker 4: I grabbed it.
Speaker 3: Then I kept walking, and I walked to the spot
Speaker 3: where I found the footprint because my flagging tape, so
Speaker 3: I knew exactly where it was at. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm going back to base camp now. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: get the guys. We're gonna come back out here and
Speaker 3: we're gonna cast this. And as I was walking, it
Speaker 3: probably was another forty five minute walk because I was
Speaker 3: moving slow. I was completely exhausted. When I came out
Speaker 3: on the long road back to our base camp. I
Speaker 3: came out maybe six seven hundred yards up the road
Speaker 3: from where I had entered, because I knew basically my direction,
Speaker 3: so I wasn't staring at my footprints.
Speaker 4: I was more concerned with just getting back.
Speaker 3: That's all I really wanted to do at that point
Speaker 3: was just get back. In the meantime, I had composed
Speaker 3: myself to where I wasn't gonna just come walking up
Speaker 3: to the guys and waving my arms and going, guys,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna believe what happened. You have no idea
Speaker 3: what happened to me or anything like that. I just said,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell them what happened, and I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: try to take it nice and cool. As soon as
Speaker 3: I walked back up to base camp, Bob and Dwight
Speaker 3: asked me. They said, to how did your walk go?
Speaker 3: And I said, I think it went really good. I said,
Speaker 3: I think I found a legitimate footprint. That's when Bob said,
Speaker 3: did you hear that scream or that yell?
Speaker 4: And I said, oh, yeah, I heard it.
Speaker 3: I said it was like thirty forty yards from me
Speaker 3: when I heard it. We caught the audio pretty good
Speaker 3: on my audio recorder, even though my audio recorder was
Speaker 3: probably a quarter mile I will guess a quarter mile
Speaker 3: from where I ended up at and it got screamed at.
Speaker 3: But from where base camp was to where it screamed
Speaker 3: at me was comfortably three quarters of a mile, I
Speaker 3: would say comfortably. And that's when Bob said, yeah, he said,
Speaker 3: I heard it all the way back here. So if
Speaker 3: that tells you anything, this was a very very loud,
Speaker 3: very dominating sound that came out of the forest. I
Speaker 3: never got to see it. Bob and I came back
Speaker 3: down a few months ago to the exact same location
Speaker 3: and we tried to recreate our steps to go back
Speaker 3: out there, and unfortunately we couldn't do so because the
Speaker 3: water level was so high, it was knee high in places,
Speaker 3: and we didn't bring chest waiters with us. We weren't
Speaker 3: anticipating that much water level to be there. We had
Speaker 3: muck boots on and that type of thing, but we
Speaker 3: were specifically going out there, or at least I was
Speaker 3: specifically going to retrace my tracks and then hopefully see
Speaker 3: some more activity or see if there's anything else going
Speaker 3: on out there. But the swamp had turned back into
Speaker 3: the swamp. But that was the scariest that I've ever
Speaker 3: been in my entire life. And I've had some scary instances,
Speaker 3: but this time was It was beyond scary for me.
Speaker 3: That's my story on that.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 2: right back after these messages.
Speaker 1: One of my.
Speaker 5: Most interesting experiences took place in a spot we called
Speaker 5: a field.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you want me the name.
Speaker 5: Exactly where that is. It's in Rutherford County in North Carolina.
Speaker 5: We had a whole lot of stuff go on at
Speaker 5: that field. Remember what we did the day before, We
Speaker 5: may have pulled an overnight or somewhere, I don't know
Speaker 5: where that was.
Speaker 6: But the next day.
Speaker 5: I'd got up in the afternoon and I had my
Speaker 5: dog's fending got it. And so back then, this was
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen, if me and you Bob pulled an overnight
Speaker 5: or usually on Saturday.
Speaker 6: Afternoons, I'd take them too. Well, a lot of times I'd.
Speaker 5: Come out of woods when it was getting dark and
Speaker 5: all that. And so I went up to the field.
Speaker 5: And previously, like I said, a lot of stuff that
Speaker 5: went on at that field.
Speaker 6: There was one time when we found a footprint where
Speaker 6: you found it.
Speaker 5: We were always hearing wooden knocks. I feel it is
Speaker 5: like wood knock Central. When we found that footprint that time,
Speaker 5: there were a couple of wood knocks. I started going
Speaker 5: in the woods. You like, going back here and sit down, listen.
Speaker 5: We heard a lot of wood knocks. So I went
Speaker 5: up to that field and it's the first time that
Speaker 5: I took Finn and.
Speaker 6: Got it up to that field.
Speaker 5: This was twenty seventeen, and we walked around the field
Speaker 5: looking for prints.
Speaker 6: It was late in the evening.
Speaker 5: Sam was still shining pretty good, but it was slowly
Speaker 5: going down, and all of a sudden, through the brush,
Speaker 5: I thought I saw something looking.
Speaker 6: At me, and I zoomed in on and I had
Speaker 6: a zoom camera. I was doing was taking pictures.
Speaker 5: I probably should have been taking video, and I took
Speaker 5: a picture through with.
Speaker 6: Them and I was zoomed. Then I say, damn, that's
Speaker 6: a face right there.
Speaker 5: I took a picture of it and it turns out good,
Speaker 5: and to this day that's one of the best daytime
Speaker 5: pictures that I ever got. So I heard a bunch
Speaker 5: of rustling around, moving around.
Speaker 6: I looked back to there.
Speaker 5: Then all I saw was darkness. I didn't see a
Speaker 5: face or anything. So I started panning around with my camera.
Speaker 5: I didn't have a tripod, so when you zoom in
Speaker 5: you don't have a trumpot, it gets kind of shaky.
Speaker 5: That's a pretty good camera overn So I started zooming
Speaker 5: in where I started hearing the noise taking pictures. So
Speaker 5: here and there I zoom in to see a face
Speaker 5: really good picked the picture, and that really got the
Speaker 5: idea from me that instead of using binoculars, because I
Speaker 5: always carve binoculars with me, as zoom camera was actually
Speaker 5: better than any binocular than I can use. So from
Speaker 5: that point forward to this day, I always have a
Speaker 5: zoom camera so I can zoom in and use that.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like binoculars. But the movement kept going around.
Speaker 5: It was on the perimeter of the field. This was
Speaker 5: before we had an experience where the cameras shut down
Speaker 5: and we saw some figures walking in the tree line.
Speaker 6: This is that same tree lawn. Well, later on that
Speaker 6: would happen.
Speaker 5: So overall, I ended up getting maybe six decent picks
Speaker 5: on a face out in the woods.
Speaker 6: And to this day, that's something that every once in.
Speaker 5: A while I think about again, I think back on,
Speaker 5: and probably at least four to five times a year
Speaker 5: I go up there and take the dog. I just
Speaker 5: got one dog now, and just do try to reenact
Speaker 5: that and see if that day happens again, because if
Speaker 5: it happens again, I think I handled the whole situation
Speaker 5: a whole lot better than when I handled it that day. Now,
Speaker 5: as it turns out, this may have been Yeah, this
Speaker 5: was before we had taken some people up there, some
Speaker 5: other folks that are squatchers, and they got I don't
Speaker 5: know if it's a thermal head. I think that may
Speaker 5: have been using your thermal and we got a hit
Speaker 5: in a.
Speaker 6: Corner in the side of over there.
Speaker 5: Later on we took another gap there that we known
Speaker 5: for years.
Speaker 6: You got to hit.
Speaker 5: He heard something over in that same area and you shined
Speaker 5: at your thermoll over there. I pointed your thermoll over
Speaker 5: there and got a hit. That's pretty decent. And so
Speaker 5: that area has had so much happen, and in that
Speaker 5: one little corner there's always something.
Speaker 6: There was a hurricane blowing through it one time.
Speaker 5: I can't remember the name of the hurricane, but it
Speaker 5: blew a canopy up in the air and blew it
Speaker 5: right on the corner, and we went over there and
Speaker 5: got it. While we were picking it up, something was
Speaker 5: just moving around. Yeah, the wind and everything was blowing,
Speaker 5: but you heard it stopping around, moving around in that
Speaker 5: same corner. Then right after that, we went back to
Speaker 5: the treeline area and we smelled that pissy smell, one
Speaker 5: of the few times I've actually gotten a whiff of
Speaker 5: that pissy riding the.
Speaker 6: Egg so foraric type smell.
Speaker 5: And so that whole field area has got stuff going
Speaker 5: on there. So every once in a while, take the
Speaker 5: dog and just go back go around that tree line,
Speaker 5: hoping that day come out again where I.
Speaker 6: Can get some more pictures. Yeah, but that's that one
Speaker 6: story I always think about and I.
Speaker 5: Don't think I've told it too often. I'm not a
Speaker 5: good storyteller. And you talk a lot about stuff that
Speaker 5: happens and stuff.
Speaker 6: We went through.
Speaker 5: That's one thing with men my dogs that happened and
Speaker 5: the dogs they didn't really act peculiar and they would
Speaker 5: sniffed the air a little bit and get a little
Speaker 5: bit excited.
Speaker 6: They didn't really act. They didn't go off of that
Speaker 6: crazy that day.
Speaker 5: But I was going crazy trying to take pictures of
Speaker 5: everything that was right around that field.
Speaker 6: So that is going to really active area. Yeah, but
Speaker 6: we spent a lot of time.
Speaker 5: I think that we went there maybe fifteen to twenty
Speaker 5: straight times.
Speaker 6: We heard at least three would we heard at least.
Speaker 5: Three good wood knucks every dog one time and one
Speaker 5: time we went.
Speaker 6: Up there, and we went up there late.
Speaker 5: We sat up and there was some going that we
Speaker 5: didn't know exactly where he was, but turns out he
Speaker 5: was up in the corner. We heard some wood knucks
Speaker 5: or some things going on. This guy walked out. We
Speaker 5: saw him when he walked down. We were like, okay,
Speaker 5: that's the guy. The vehicles down there by the road
Speaker 5: close to where we park, So this guy walked out
Speaker 5: and we thought he.
Speaker 6: Was gonna lead.
Speaker 5: They say, he walks back up maybe I don't know.
Speaker 5: Fifteen twenty minutes later he put all this stuff up.
Speaker 5: So he talks to us, and while he's talking to us,
Speaker 5: there's a loud wood knight like a babe roof would
Speaker 5: not go out, and he looks back in that area.
Speaker 6: He said, what's that?
Speaker 5: He's I've been hearing a lot of things go on
Speaker 5: while I was sitting there.
Speaker 6: He said, but what's that right there? What does that?
Speaker 6: The wind ain't blowing. The men Bob just looked at
Speaker 6: each other and didn't really say too much.
Speaker 5: I can't remember everything you said, but later on when
Speaker 5: he left, that was just a second.
Speaker 6: He was actually from the same city that we were from.
Speaker 6: I should have got his name whenever didn't get his name.
Speaker 5: But that whole area, that whole field is really a
Speaker 5: special place where had to take Tim up there one day.
Speaker 7: Oh, definitely trail your side of the first time me
Speaker 7: and you. I took you up to that culder and
Speaker 7: we went up on the hill.
Speaker 5: Oh with the airport lug And so that's the same
Speaker 5: field area we had been going there.
Speaker 6: For a while.
Speaker 5: So a couple of times we had said, why don't
Speaker 5: we get on that hill behind the field, because you
Speaker 5: could look down on the field see everything that's going on,
Speaker 5: and we might get a better view two of the
Speaker 5: mountains across because occasionally there will been some like weird
Speaker 5: light school and I don't know if there's meteors or whatever.
Speaker 6: And so we decided one day, hey, we're gonna do that.
Speaker 5: We're gonna go up the field. So we packed all
Speaker 5: our stuff up. I packed my stuff up and maybe
Speaker 5: two depel banks.
Speaker 6: Bob had some banks.
Speaker 5: And so we started out, went from the road, went
Speaker 5: across the field, went into the woods. There's no trails
Speaker 5: right there, so it's just thick foldinge. So we hit
Speaker 5: one old forest service road or really on the road,
Speaker 5: but all for service, maybe a logging trail, and then we.
Speaker 6: Start to go up.
Speaker 5: We walk over I don't know, maybe fifteen mounds of
Speaker 5: bear poop, bear turns, bear patties on the yard.
Speaker 6: And we keep going up and we rest every once
Speaker 6: in a while, we kept bowling downs.
Speaker 5: We made it up like a quarter of the way
Speaker 5: and there's another and I swear this place, this whole
Speaker 5: area's game lands.
Speaker 6: But you walk through the woods, you're going to find
Speaker 6: a fire road, an old logging road. You're just gonna
Speaker 6: find one out there.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's been over and over again that I've
Speaker 5: just traced through the woods off trail.
Speaker 6: There really ain't no trails there.
Speaker 5: Starting to be honest with just all gamelands and just
Speaker 5: find another.
Speaker 6: Over rown forest road.
Speaker 5: And so we passed that and keep going up. Byly,
Speaker 5: we're just warm out and tired. It's definitely on an
Speaker 5: incline like this right here, so if you misstap, you're
Speaker 5: gonna roll a good little ways. So we dig out
Speaker 5: a spot to set the chair.
Speaker 6: So I'm setting like in one spot, bottoms like over
Speaker 6: in the corner.
Speaker 5: We got two little flat spunk and we had one
Speaker 5: of our best nights ever as far as wood Knocks go,
Speaker 5: I'm thinking it's like seventeen eighteen wood Knocks. On the night,
Speaker 5: we saw some lights across the way.
Speaker 6: I saw a light that went up above the.
Speaker 5: Mountain into the clouds, into the sky. It broke the
Speaker 5: line of the mountain and then went right back down,
Speaker 5: just like a brown mountain light situation. We saw a
Speaker 5: satellite that the whole scene is clear up through the
Speaker 5: stars and everything. So we saw what was satellites, what
Speaker 5: was planes the same time, these wood knocks keep going,
Speaker 5: so then we hear again little drops behind us.
Speaker 6: Something's coming up behind us. At one point in time,
Speaker 6: something came up behind.
Speaker 5: Bob, and Bob stood up, turned around and said, that's it.
Speaker 5: Don't you get any closer. I know you're right there.
Speaker 5: I don't know what you are. You need to go on.
Speaker 6: And I was sitting the third want you, Maddie.
Speaker 5: And then maybe twenty minutes later, so I feel like
Speaker 5: something's right up on my butt, right behind me again.
Speaker 5: The mountain's going up. It's all thick foliage. There's a
Speaker 5: lot of treefall.
Speaker 6: You can't see nothing.
Speaker 5: I'm surprised we made it that high up the mountain,
Speaker 5: just walking straight up there toting all the damn airport
Speaker 5: look is that we were toeing up.
Speaker 6: But I feel like someone's behind me.
Speaker 5: So I'm standing up, taking this few steps back, and
Speaker 5: I don't say nothing.
Speaker 6: Bob's like, what's wrong. I'm like, what's behind me now?
Speaker 5: And so I just wait until I think whatever it
Speaker 5: is moves off, and then I set back down again.
Speaker 5: But I've roll That was one of the best nights
Speaker 5: we ever had. In some of the pictures we really
Speaker 5: didn't get I don't.
Speaker 6: Think a lot of video out of that. It was
Speaker 6: really difficult to move around because.
Speaker 5: Again it got dark, and if you make one wrong step,
Speaker 5: you definitely didn't want to fall asleep.
Speaker 6: We were by looking at each other and say, hey,
Speaker 6: don't follow us.
Speaker 5: So because you fall asleep and you lean down, you're
Speaker 5: gonna be rolling down the mountain. You ain't gonna have
Speaker 5: no bullet in your head and falling down the mountain,
Speaker 5: You're gonna be rolling down the mountain all on your own.
Speaker 7: So talking to my sold wherever it is, we're gonna
Speaker 7: have to fight because we can't.
Speaker 5: Run now, you can't running ut And so we stayed
Speaker 5: there all night long. We were there when the sun
Speaker 5: was going down, We were there when the sun came up,
Speaker 5: and across the way in the mountain, lying the mountain ridge,
Speaker 5: we saw a light in the middle of it. As
Speaker 5: time went on and the sun's coming up, we ended
Speaker 5: up realizing there had to be somebody carrying.
Speaker 6: A light or a land more likely a lannern by the.
Speaker 5: Way it was moving around like someone was holding a
Speaker 5: bright ass landern and at one point in time it
Speaker 5: stops and it goes up and down like almost like
Speaker 5: there's siglung to us that they seek us there.
Speaker 6: And then it goes through and disappears.
Speaker 5: And this is as the sun coming up, and I
Speaker 5: don't really know at that point.
Speaker 6: You could see enough.
Speaker 5: I don't really know who would have such a bright
Speaker 5: ass almost like a gas lander like the one that
Speaker 5: you had that propane lanner, and it was just bright as.
Speaker 6: Hell, And that was weird.
Speaker 5: That was really I've often thrown It was at Elvis
Speaker 5: peddling this three wheeler a front of those old fire roads.
Speaker 6: And he had his little winny dog, his flag, and
Speaker 6: he had a landern hanging on the three wheelers. I
Speaker 6: don't know.
Speaker 5: That was weird right there, but then that could be
Speaker 5: your story. But then right after that we had it out.
Speaker 5: We went up straight back down, me and Bob. We
Speaker 5: both failed out several times. My arms were dead. We
Speaker 5: made it back to the van and we went home,
Speaker 5: and I think we both slept all day and we
Speaker 5: hit each other up that evening, like around seven or eight,
Speaker 5: were like I'm just getting up, Like me too, I'm
Speaker 5: just getting up. But that was a pretty special night
Speaker 5: one I always remember if if for anything else, a
Speaker 5: lot went on, but the trouble we had just to
Speaker 5: get up to that point.
Speaker 6: We were just at that point in time.
Speaker 5: We were just in the middle of going every weekend
Speaker 5: really into it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we could both walk a country.
Speaker 5: Mile at that point in time, and that was just
Speaker 5: to get to that point. We've always talked about going back,
Speaker 5: but we've never gotten back up there again. There's got
Speaker 5: to be an easier way to get over there.
Speaker 6: If there is, I don't really know it.
Speaker 5: And you know what, I really don't know exactly what's
Speaker 5: on the top of that little hill because there's ridges
Speaker 5: behind it. I don't know if that hill leads to
Speaker 5: that ridge that we walk before, or I don't know
Speaker 5: if it's down below it. It's hard to tell. There's
Speaker 5: so much denseness in there.
Speaker 6: So I'm often wondered.
Speaker 5: That's on one of my little bucket list things as
Speaker 5: far as what we've done to go back there and
Speaker 5: maybe make it to the top and see what's up there.
Speaker 5: But in terms of hearing wood knocks and hearing movement around,
Speaker 5: and then realizing that if you're up at that point
Speaker 5: you can see anything that comes in out again, that's
Speaker 5: a one way in to get back to that road
Speaker 5: where the church is at the end, and then that's
Speaker 5: one way out. I don't know how many miles it is,
Speaker 5: but it's still several miles. I don't know, Man, it
Speaker 5: ain't as long as some others, but it maybe eight
Speaker 5: or nine miles, seven to eight miles something like that.
Speaker 5: And you can just see if you're up there, you
Speaker 5: can see everything. So I don't know if a lot
Speaker 5: of times wood knocks signaling who's coming in and who's
Speaker 5: in there, somebody's in there and who's leaving. But that's
Speaker 5: a great tactical point to.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see we're right
Speaker 2: back after these messages.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we're right in there now.
Speaker 5: I'll look up at that heel and I wonder if
Speaker 5: something sitting up there watching.
Speaker 4: Us right now exactly exactly Tim.
Speaker 6: I thought we was just gonna walk up on this
Speaker 6: one with him, big dead good lord. I didn't know
Speaker 6: it was like that. The hill. You can see over
Speaker 6: the field, but it don't look that downing. But then
Speaker 6: when you get on it, damn, I mean it's just
Speaker 6: the ridge all over again.
Speaker 7: The family was carrying chairs and all kinds of I
Speaker 7: was carrying three double bags at least one chair.
Speaker 6: You were carrying more than I was, I think, because.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I was carrying a tuber, but
Speaker 5: I know you were carrying a cook.
Speaker 6: We had all kind of struff.
Speaker 5: But when we got when we dug our spot out,
Speaker 5: when we finally gave up clown and dug or spot,
Speaker 5: we had everything we needed.
Speaker 6: But hell, it was just nice to sit down in
Speaker 6: the damn chair.
Speaker 5: At that point in time, I really wasn't looking to
Speaker 5: work a camera, so I was just looking to sit there.
Speaker 6: And this did not fall off the bout.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was like we had to dig out spots
Speaker 7: to sit the chair.
Speaker 6: I did those a little bit, not long.
Speaker 7: I thought I had to kept waking myself up because
Speaker 7: I was like ship, I rolled forward.
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna stop caring collar.
Speaker 5: That's one night I didn't doze. I know I'm the
Speaker 5: king dozer, but that night I didn't those. One damn
Speaker 5: time I was one.
Speaker 6: Away, we heard a bunch of them. It was like
Speaker 6: insane what not?
Speaker 4: All around?
Speaker 5: Yeah, like three sixty wouldn't I I don't know. I
Speaker 5: think that they knew that we were up there. They
Speaker 5: didn't exactly know where we were at, and they were
Speaker 5: just going back and forth, and you just got the
Speaker 5: vibe that they were concerned about where we were at.
Speaker 6: So you're just getting there high Green.
Speaker 8: We had it.
Speaker 6: You're right on that. Seriously.
Speaker 7: I stood up at one time. I'm thinking I'm fighting.
Speaker 7: I don't know what I'm probably lose. But that was
Speaker 7: something big behind him. Might been a bear, no going
Speaker 7: to run training back.
Speaker 6: I was hollering. So I was like, whatever it did,
Speaker 6: we just hope it wasn't a cat.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I remember we were talking about you. We'd
Speaker 5: rather be a squatch than a cat.
Speaker 6: Yeah, b than a camp Yeah for that bugger. He
Speaker 6: prom more likely running. They're just curious.
Speaker 5: A cat just might jump on you and take you
Speaker 5: down the mountain and take you out one.
Speaker 6: Of your phone. We did have the fall. We packed
Speaker 6: up and I fell probably four or five times, like.
Speaker 4: On my butt.
Speaker 6: Yeah, just fell on my boat. And number I've never
Speaker 6: been something glad and getting the car in my life.
Speaker 5: Oh, you talk about sitting down in the van and
Speaker 5: how good it felt just to sit down. It felt
Speaker 5: good just sitting there. I paid fifty dollars for that
Speaker 5: seat I felt good.
Speaker 6: Lord, you want to tell us real quick about how
Speaker 6: you how I got into Squatches? Yeah, I ain't got
Speaker 6: into Squatch.
Speaker 5: I was what probably you'd call a fan boy for
Speaker 5: a long time, just interested in it.
Speaker 6: From the seventies bigfoot craze.
Speaker 5: I remember being a kid and watching all these documentaries.
Speaker 6: And then the.
Speaker 5: Funny thing is, years later, when YouTube came about, I
Speaker 5: looked up a lot of these old episodes that I
Speaker 5: hadn't seen in a long time that someone.
Speaker 6: Would post on YouTube.
Speaker 5: And I think that's the great thing about YouTube is
Speaker 5: you can look back on all these old documentaries and.
Speaker 6: We'd kind of relive that.
Speaker 5: But the big thing that stands out to me is
Speaker 5: I'm a kid and Grover Krantz comes on talking about
Speaker 5: the Cripplefoots tracks. He talks about hell, he shows one
Speaker 5: print that looks really good. Then he shows his other
Speaker 5: print that looks all distorted. So he starts talking about it,
Speaker 5: and he said, if someone hoaxed this right here.
Speaker 6: Then they gotta know about anatomy in.
Speaker 5: Bowl structure, because this isn't just a giant reproduction of
Speaker 5: a human foot that's crippled. The bones are set farther
Speaker 5: bank that are broken, and those bones are what you
Speaker 5: would need to support an eight hundred pound creature. So
Speaker 5: even though I'm a kid, I'm comprehending all that.
Speaker 6: Maybe I don't know seven or eight at that time
Speaker 6: that I.
Speaker 5: See that, that just really sticks in my mind. Of course,
Speaker 5: the Patterson Giveling film got so many people into it.
Speaker 5: Especially when you're young and you see that, you're either
Speaker 5: gonna make up your mine right away as either fake
Speaker 5: or you're gonna believe it.
Speaker 6: Of course I believe that, and Dad looked like a
Speaker 6: real creature to me.
Speaker 5: But Gruver Krantz talking about the cripple foot is what
Speaker 5: got me hooked. Then from that, anything with big fot
Speaker 5: on and I watched it, and I just's all mysteries
Speaker 5: had big Foot on. Yeah, I was gonna watch that
Speaker 5: if it didn't have Bigfit in it. I wasn't gonna
Speaker 5: watch Robber Stacked. I'd be in the bedroom and my
Speaker 5: would be watching us all Mysteries. A lot of times
Speaker 5: that my mom would be like, hey, do why they
Speaker 5: got a segment on big Fitts. I'd come out of
Speaker 5: the bedroom and sit there and watch the TV. Anything
Speaker 5: about Bigfoot. I was into now hiking and camping a
Speaker 5: whole lot in my later twenties early thirties, then fell
Speaker 5: off of it for a little while. I always have
Speaker 5: big fit on my own when I was out there,
Speaker 5: but I wasn't technically quote unquote squatching, just going camping.
Speaker 5: But I always had thought about Bigfoot when I was
Speaker 5: out there. And then you go too fast forward all
Speaker 5: the way to like two thoy thirteen fourteen, when Survivor.
Speaker 6: Man Bigfit came on. That's your latest big fit thing.
Speaker 6: I was jacked up for it.
Speaker 5: There's a good show, we're good program, not cutting anybody down.
Speaker 6: So I ain't gonna get int the details.
Speaker 5: About that, but I was disappointed in in the end.
Speaker 5: And that's when I started thinking, why don't I do
Speaker 5: my own research? Because when I was a kid growing up,
Speaker 5: it's all about the Siberia, the Himalayas.
Speaker 6: And the Pacific Northwest. That's the whole spin.
Speaker 5: John Gray, Peter Burn, Roger Patterson, all those guys from
Speaker 5: the Pacific Northwest. Even Peter Burn who search versaskwatch or
Speaker 5: the yetting Himalayas, he gave that up and he went
Speaker 5: to the Pacific Northwest. And so that's where you really think
Speaker 5: if you're gonna hunt big fot when you're in America.
Speaker 6: You going to the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 5: Then of the course of time you become aware with
Speaker 5: the Appalachia Mountain Chain in sightings that have been over here,
Speaker 5: it's no different than over here, and you've got a
Speaker 5: lot of wooded area. If these creatures exist, then they're
Speaker 5: going to be over here too. So there's many accounts
Speaker 5: that I really believe happened in this area in the
Speaker 5: Appalachia Mountain Chain. Even below that, of course, we had
Speaker 5: the Knobby big Foot, and I really believed some of
Speaker 5: those accounts.
Speaker 6: Some I didn't, but some I did so at that
Speaker 6: point time, being.
Speaker 5: Frustrated with where research is going in there, realizing that
Speaker 5: if it's on TV EI, they're trying to make a buck,
Speaker 5: they're trying to get rating, so trying to do this
Speaker 5: and that, and people that don't know about Bigfoot, they're
Speaker 5: gonna get into it.
Speaker 6: They're gonna hear what other people say. It's gonna influence them.
Speaker 5: And I saw a whole lot in that particular TV
Speaker 5: show where the lead gun, who's a good survivor gun,
Speaker 5: he was influenced by one other people were thinking, and
Speaker 5: you got to keeping up in mine, to what's going on.
Speaker 5: So anyway, it wasn't that show's fault, but I had
Speaker 5: just grown to a point and it was building where
Speaker 5: I was frustrated with it and decided to go out
Speaker 5: and do my own thing.
Speaker 6: And that's what got me into research, and I hooked
Speaker 6: up with you.
Speaker 5: You showed me the booksnail camera that wasn't that much money.
Speaker 6: I got that.
Speaker 5: I got some interesting things on that, some interesting things happen,
Speaker 5: and then I went down that rabbit hole and now
Speaker 5: I got two thermals. I don't know, maybe fifteen trail cameras.
Speaker 5: I've probably got six of them out right now. I'm
Speaker 5: losing them right and left. Just lost one today. The
Speaker 5: strap's there, the camera's gone, So does someone steal it?
Speaker 6: It is in a pretty remote spot. Did something grab it?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I've got some interesting things on trail cameras with people
Speaker 5: say don't use trail cameras.
Speaker 6: All these researchers say, don't use a trail camera.
Speaker 5: But I've gotten a lot of interesting things, and I've
Speaker 5: learned a whole lot using trail cams.
Speaker 6: But we also have thermals.
Speaker 5: I think between all of us, I mean, between me
Speaker 5: and you and Tim, I think at this point in
Speaker 5: time we got a lot about.
Speaker 6: Four or five thermals between us.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about getting another one, but now I'm in
Speaker 5: that rabbit hole, and really, as a researcher today, I
Speaker 5: think the biggest thing that you can do is use thermals.
Speaker 5: But also you still need to go out during the
Speaker 5: day as well. You need to mix up your whole
Speaker 5: research scheme. Don't be scared to try try different things.
Speaker 5: That's where we're at right now. We're thinking about how
Speaker 5: can we do different experiments and different things. You can
Speaker 5: always pick an area or even the area and pick
Speaker 5: a spot in.
Speaker 6: The area and try different things.
Speaker 5: But what really got me into it was just getting
Speaker 5: hooked as a kid, and that just ended up getting.
Speaker 6: Me to this point.
Speaker 5: We can do something like this again, but talk about
Speaker 5: a different experience. And you get to a point where
Speaker 5: you got so much primo stuff. You put all your
Speaker 5: primo stuff together and you got a great documentary.
Speaker 7: Oh man, we got some much awesome stuff.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you this story. I have a high
Speaker 6: witness here.
Speaker 7: We drove it to the field at South Mountain night
Speaker 7: in the bank and it's like this and it's around
Speaker 7: the curtains mountains.
Speaker 6: When you get all that really good, it's almost like
Speaker 6: being around your aut right. So we come around and
Speaker 6: it's pretty narrow round. It's pretty much one leg.
Speaker 7: If you meet somebody, hope you meet in a good
Speaker 7: place where you can both get back.
Speaker 6: So that's how narratives. And then there's this good little
Speaker 6: grain that goes up to work with heart. So I stopped.
Speaker 6: I'm backing him. I get out of the truck. I
Speaker 6: get to the back door and Leg's talking to somebody.
Speaker 7: So I get around the.
Speaker 6: Edge of the van. This is bizarre, but I'll promise
Speaker 6: you this is the truth. You can't even make this
Speaker 6: sh You know. There's a dude that looks like a
Speaker 6: sixty five year old Elvis Presley on a three wheel bicycle.
Speaker 6: What's one of them flags? Yeah, and he's got a
Speaker 6: docs and on a rope leader behind him coming the
Speaker 6: same way we does, can't And he's got jet black car.
Speaker 6: This is an old dude. He's got jet black and
Speaker 6: he's got big sideburns just like Elvis. Yeah, he's got
Speaker 6: the whole Elvis dude going on.
Speaker 9: Thinking about it was Youngewood I had to meet him somewhere.
Speaker 5: And he don't say a word. He just smiles and
Speaker 5: he is kind. It's almost like he's on a parade float. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and his legs is moving, but you're not here in
Speaker 5: the gravel popping or anything. He's like he's on a
Speaker 5: parade float. And I was surprised about it at the time.
Speaker 5: And he just seemed to go by so quickly and
Speaker 5: he was gone, Yeah, Bob got a glimpse of him,
Speaker 5: and we're like.
Speaker 6: I was like, why don't Finny come from? I'm like,
Speaker 6: I didn't see him when we were driving on the road.
Speaker 6: He would have been on the side of the road.
Speaker 6: He had to have been. Yeah, he ain't over here
Speaker 6: in the woods.
Speaker 7: And there ain't no way that old man peddled that
Speaker 7: three wheel bicycle with a dog behind him with legs.
Speaker 6: No I canna keep up with you? Yeah, nothing, Tim
Speaker 6: We come out backed up.
Speaker 7: I get out and look around back by how I
Speaker 7: get to the back doors of van.
Speaker 6: Dwake's hawking somebody. I'm like, is he talking to his
Speaker 6: Is he talking to him?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 6: Clear about the van?
Speaker 7: And there's other us on the throm.
Speaker 5: Like, I don't know, you know all that look I
Speaker 5: thought about no way, No dang, no way. I thought
Speaker 5: about that a whole line of I've often wondered now,
Speaker 5: and I don't really believe in the woo it's parked.
Speaker 5: I mean to tell me, I've often thought, now, is
Speaker 5: that some kind of time traveler or something?
Speaker 6: It's just crazy. It's just if you were a time traveler,
Speaker 6: then what would you be interested in doing.
Speaker 5: If you were just a time traveler. The world that
Speaker 5: you lived in, it's pretty much gone.
Speaker 6: You don't have all this no more than you're in
Speaker 6: the future.
Speaker 5: You probably put a premium on Okay, let me walk
Speaker 5: down a dirt road like this, because there's no more
Speaker 5: woods anymore. The woods is all gone. The beauty of
Speaker 5: the earth is all gone. So if you could travel
Speaker 5: back in time, and you'd pay anything just to walk
Speaker 5: this little stretch of woods and then get za back
Speaker 5: by your time, I don't know, man, or like you said,
Speaker 5: some people you said, well, I ain't gonna not remain.
Speaker 5: But you said that that group you hung out with
Speaker 5: might have told you that was some kind of alien.
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, in blind.
Speaker 9: The thinking about it is even in Bible Times it
Speaker 9: talks about Portal Jacob's Ladder, shame, the ladder down to
Speaker 9: the Earth and the angels ascending and descending on it.
Speaker 6: There's portals.
Speaker 9: They have to be portals for the angels to travel
Speaker 9: from outside.
Speaker 6: Of this universe. Well, it gives me about the Bible too.
Speaker 5: It always talks about people that are out of place
Speaker 5: where they're at. One of the stories, the townspeople are
Speaker 5: demanding to see what Maybe I don't know if it's
Speaker 5: the nephile them or what the name was in the Bible,
Speaker 5: but they were demanding to see these people. They wanted
Speaker 5: to know them. And of course people interpret that in
Speaker 5: a lot of different ways. But there were people that
Speaker 5: were almost being sheltered by the big wigs of the
Speaker 5: city at the time that didn't really belong there, So
Speaker 5: who were they?
Speaker 9: Just like the story of Shaw the Gomark, when the
Speaker 9: angels come down to destroy the city and the city
Speaker 9: was so wicked that they went to Lot's house to
Speaker 9: get Lot and his family because they was the only
Speaker 9: ones to get them out, and they still tried to
Speaker 9: get through the door to them, even though they had
Speaker 9: been struggled blindness. Their hearts was so hard and so
Speaker 9: corrupt that they're trying to get through the door to
Speaker 9: them even though they're just struggle with blindness.
Speaker 6: Ain't fancy. I'm just simple, I'm just me. I don't
Speaker 6: one understand this. I need a simple explanation.
Speaker 9: So everything that think of what's outside that we know about,
Speaker 9: we know there's millions of galaxies and stuff like it
Speaker 9: in our universe, So.
Speaker 6: They has to be portals.
Speaker 9: They have to be portals from those beings to get
Speaker 9: from one to the other. These last days, everybody's hollering, Aden,
Speaker 9: there's the dayliens that build all this with their technology
Speaker 9: and all that stuff. So seeing stuff like, honestly, I
Speaker 9: don't surprise me because there's.
Speaker 6: Stuff that comes up.
Speaker 9: I've seen people just uppear on side of the road
Speaker 9: on the dish cab.
Speaker 6: They'll be gone buying.
Speaker 9: All of a sudden somebody standing there that wasn't our
Speaker 9: two seconds ago.
Speaker 6: Well that was the weirdest one for us. Love day
Speaker 6: I brought hope.
Speaker 8: They say, you don't gotta go home, but you can't
Speaker 8: stay and I don't want to be alone. World up it.
Speaker 10: Chid this chart, that chart everything can you ride back?
Speaker 10: Ride back? And the joy for me? Joy stay right there,
Speaker 10: come it right away, still states Stills still stay inside,
Speaker 10: side inside in st st state, stills still games, and
Speaker 10: still stills US States, says MS