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into all the k nooks and crandits of the world

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of BWA sports says. The college football season begins to

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wind down. We're getting into bowl season, We're getting into

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the offseason.

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Speaker 4: Talk.

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Speaker 3: Are we mentally, emotionally, spiritually, temperar Are we just jumping

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right into the basketball season now?

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Speaker 2: Are we saying, hey, bat.

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Speaker 3: Football's done, We're good and now we're just transitioning into

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the basketball season. We're gonna discuss that and much more.

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What are still some of the topics of hoard to

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the BYU college football fan base, the Cougar fan base

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out there. Maybe it's roster attention, Maybe it's senior balls,

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Maybe it's you know, draft evaluations, Maybe it's the transfer portal.

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What is it that's keeping you bought into BYU? The

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Bowl game, obviously with Georgia Tech, would have been better,

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would have been great with a grand would have been

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wonderful had Notre Dame decided to play the game. Rather

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than being the fighting Irish, they became the quitting Irish,

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and that I would have kept us maybe a little

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bit more bought in. But I think there are some

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out there in Cougar Country that are moving on to

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BYU basketball Top ten team that just knocked down the

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knocked off the Clemson Tigers in MSG. Their only loss

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is to potentially the national champion of college basketball ukhon

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and coach Hurley. They are very talented, they are very robust,

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they are very well resourced.

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Speaker 2: And they got the coops.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, because BYU is a second half team rather than

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being a first and second half team. To discuss this, though,

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Where are you at mentally right now as a bou fan?

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Are you putting the football season to bed? You're like, ah, yeah,

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the bowl game, that's fine, That's okay, Pop Tard's Bowl,

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you know whatever, and you've moved on one hundred percent

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to basketball.

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Speaker 4: Not no, not one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: But I think ending the regular season the way it

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did and getting snubbed out of the college football Playoff,

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I think it makes it a little bit easier to

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focus more of our attention on a basketball at this point. Obviously,

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there's still some recency bias as well, because we're just

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getting off that like electric win against Clemson. So I

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think that's not helping, you know, my my football cravings

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right now.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, you got to think about it this way.

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Speaker 5: We have a fantastic basketball team, so what's not excited

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to be? You know, I'm super excited about the basketball season,

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But what's going to happen is the Bowl Game's gonna

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sneak up on me all of a sudden. It's this

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nice little treat at the end of December.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, the twenty seventh in Orlando, right after Christmas exactly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm I'm thrilled for that too. I actually

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went to the Georgia Tech b Why you played Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 4: I think it was early two thousands.

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Speaker 6: I'm like.

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Speaker 3: Four.

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Speaker 4: It was a Gary Croton game. I remember that.

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Speaker 2: I want to say it was two thousand and four.

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Speaker 5: So I went to that game, and my my friend

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in high school was actually the cousin of the punt

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returner on Georgia Tech's team. But that was actually a

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fantastic game. Really enjoyed going to Georgia Tech. We went

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to a lot of away games when I was a kid,

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and that was one of them.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand and four, No, two thousand and three.

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Speaker 4: That sounds about reason open in two.

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Speaker 3: Thousand and three. It was on the road August twenty eight,

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two thousand and three. I think that was the Dan

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Coates game.

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Speaker 4: Uh your Dan Coats Yeah, tight end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tight end. Yeah, he had a great game.

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Speaker 5: I think he had a fantastic game. I'm trying to

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remember who the quarterback was back then. That was like

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kind of John Beck was was it?

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Speaker 6: John?

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Speaker 3: A young young quarterback, young talented quarterback and the ace

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Arizona Go Toros?

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Speaker 2: Is that where he went to Mason Mountain View, baby.

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Speaker 3: And everyone's wonder like why they were so good and

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like in that day and age, like they had like

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five thousand students and it was like it was like

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sophomore it was like ten through twelfth grade, so they

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didn't have a freshman class, but they had like five

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thousand kids there. It wasn't that much, but you know

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what I mean, they're like, oh, well, no, wonder, they're

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so freaking good. They have all the talent just aggregated

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and ten through twelfth anyways, Yeah, you can tell I'm

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a little bit better because I was on the west side,

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northwest side in Glendale, Arizona, and we didn't have that.

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Speaker 2: We had two thousand students there.

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Speaker 3: We were five ayes well, but nine through twelve, so

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and the freshman classes are typically a little bit bigger

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at any rate. Yes, two thousand and three was the

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last time that BYU and Georgia Tech played, and be

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all you got to win twenty four to thirteen, ladies

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and gentlemen, boys and girls.

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Speaker 2: That was a great game, great game for the coops.

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Speaker 3: If I if I do remember accurately, I'll have to

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pull up the stat sheet. But I want to say

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Dan coachs had himself a day was oh wait, no,

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Speaker 2: That was not in a way setting was it.

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Speaker 5: At home or a way that would have been in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: So then that would have been early two two thousand

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Speaker 4: Then yeah, I want to say that it was like

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a dominie or something like that. Maybe not.

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Speaker 3: Now you got me searching it anyway, I know you're

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still hanging up, like, what are some of the topics

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that are keeping BYU fans dialed into BYU football right now?

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Speaker 5: You know, you start this time of year, you start

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seeing some of the players tweeting out that they're looking

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for other opportunities to transfer portal stuff. We've fared really

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well obviously in the transfer portal over the past couple

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of years, and I think that's probably gonna be a

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trend that we see for a while. But it's obviously

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like transfer portal type stuff, there's always a couple of

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surprises out there. Yeah, you mentioned it earlier, like Senior

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Bowl invites and stuff like that. We're already seeing some

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of those trickle in as well.

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Speaker 3: Jack Kelly getting a nice invite, Austin Lay who's also

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getting an invite to a Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hopefully we're see in a few more players that

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are deserving of it to to get some invites as well.

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Obviously the stuff leading up to the actual game itself. Uh,

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Georgia Tech is not like a they're not a pushover.

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a triple option team. I don't even know if they're

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running that anymore, I don't think so. Okay, well, so

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it'll be interesting to like really catch up on Georgia Tech,

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like who they are as a team, because I mean

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when it comes to to football. So just better acquainting

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myself with with the football team. So those are a

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Speaker 4: What players are gonna play in that game.

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Speaker 5: You know, obviously Bear had an injury during the Big

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twelve conference championship game.

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Speaker 4: So just like you know, following that whole thing.

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Speaker 5: I know, Aaron Roderck came out and talked a little

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bit about that, either yesterday or the day before.

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Speaker 3: So you're gonna play, Yeah, to play, He's gonna play.

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He'll be fine. Oh that's that's what he said. Yeah,

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that's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that we broach you mentioned Aaron Roderick.

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yesterday for Aaron Roderick haters. He has recruited coach developed

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these Quarterbackszach Wilson, Jared hall Keton slows all three in

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the NFL right now. Actually Jared is maybe out of

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the NFL now. I think he's still trying to get

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into another camp this offseason. Jake Redsloff is with Tulane,

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He's gonna be in the CFP. Let his team to

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eleven and two season. Bear Bachmeyer, you know, at what

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point do you give him credit for what he's done

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as not only a quarterbacks coach but a coordinator. And

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right now, if you look at sp plus offensive efficiency

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last year was thirty six, this year it's twenty third

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Speaker 4: To do that with a freshman is incredible.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right, especially a fresh a true freshman who wasn't

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Speaker 4: I think that you have to do it now.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why there are there's such a and

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who knows if it's just like the vocal minority or whatever,

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but I know that there is some animosity out there,

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some some ill feelings towards Aaron Roderick. And I mean,

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our record shows that, like we know how to win.

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And maybe it's because we don't start off games super fast, right,

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and we don't pile on the points or anything like that,

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but we win games, which in my mind trump's everything else.

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It's like, I couldn't care less if we're scoring a

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million points. If we're we end up losing those games.

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So maybe that's it. I'm honestly not sure what it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my follow up to this, and look, I don't

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history that that the majority of fans were completely happy

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with and didn't want fired. Like when I asked the

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there is no consensus. Like you get the old, the old,

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the Blue Hairs, they're gonna say Doug Scoville. You know,

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Doug Shuy he was there for like two years early

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this offense. And the swamp were at do we de

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We Warren and I'm like, Broll, you can't go with.

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Speaker 2: Doug Scoville and Dewey Warren.

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Speaker 3: Come on, it's like the seventies, Like no, but that

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before it all started. I'm like, yeah, well, no one

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had VHS tapes, like, no one knew what was going on,

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No one had scout scouting on area.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they did something innovator, but.

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Speaker 3: No one knew what was gonna go on until you

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played them because they didn't have freaking any video living

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in the seventies. You know, no one's no one's sharing

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tape and scouted. Anyway, we innovated and it came to

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pass it like, I just don't think you can say

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Dunk Scolville. I'm not letting you have Doug Scolville. I'm sorry,

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I'm sorry, I'm not gonna have it. So then you

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kind of move on to like Norm Chow and I'm like, no.

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not like Norm Chow and they were happy to see

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him go and not become the next head coach of BYU.

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Speaker 2: They were happy.

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Speaker 3: And what happened with Norm you know, when Norm knew

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that he wasn't gonna be in the next head coach,

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he went off to USC and became a national champion

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OC with the Trojans.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to know an interesting fact about Norm Chow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I do.

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Speaker 5: He was in my ward in North Carolina, so I

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grew up in Raleigh, who are like the Rawley area.

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it was during Chuck Amato's tenure there and he was

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in my ward, so as a deacon, I was literally

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passing him the Sacrament at various points throughout my life.

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Speaker 2: I love it crazy, Yeah, nineteen ninety nine, He that's right.

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Speaker 3: He from BYU in nineteen ninety eight, went to NC

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State in two thousand and then from from that he

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jumped to USC from two thousand and one to two

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thousand and four.

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Speaker 4: He Yeah, he had a very short stint there, but yeah,

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he was.

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Speaker 3: And then he became the offensive coordinator for the Tennessee

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Titans oh five toh seven, came back to UCLA eight

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to twenty ten, at Utah in twenty eleven, and then

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Hawaii as the head coach twenty twelve to twenty fifteen,

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and then he kind of rolled rode off into the

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sunset with.

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Speaker 2: Like but by fans wanted him fired.

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Speaker 3: I don't care what anyone said, no one, not everyone

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was completely happy. It's the same thing that's happening with

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Roderick in my opinion, like.

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Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, a nice little Knight's little.

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Speaker 3: Loc but not good enough what they're doing right now.

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And I've seen the commentary. Many of them are saying, no,

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we don't want him fired. But what they're asking for

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is they want another analyst, the senior analyst, to help

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him out.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of the new the new thing.

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Speaker 3: It's not fired because they can't because you look at

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his resume, like, ah, we can't, we can't fire him.

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Speaker 2: But they're not fully happy with the offense. They just

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want to see the jump.

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Speaker 3: So you look at the quarterback development, the quarterback recruiting,

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you look at the.

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Speaker 2: Offensive efficientcy metric. They have to at least.

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Speaker 3: Abide by the objective data metrics, and they're like, Okay,

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he doesn't deserve to be fired by way. He's going

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to live it into the last two seasons. But he's

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lacking something. So they've converted over to senior analysts. Well,

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who's that senior analyst that you're going to bring in

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that would be akin to Gary Anderson on the defensive

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side of the ball. And that's the debate I'm having

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with BYU fans right now. It's like, Okay, well, who's

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that senior analyst that Aaron Roderick loves and trust and

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has rapport with that he will listen to in order

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to fill whatever void of weakness that he currently has

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in his play calling ability.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think the answer is we have no

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idea who that individual is, right, I mean, well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, everyone has ideas, sure, but.

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Speaker 3: People will say Max Hall, some people will say John Beck,

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some people will say Ty Demmer. If you're a former

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quarterback that's coaching anywhere, they're gonna say that guy, right,

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that's the low hanging fruit. It's, uh, why not bring

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back Robbie Bosco as a player.

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Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, they may whatever.

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Speaker 3: It's typically a quarterback that's the low hanging fruit, okay,

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or someone that's LDS or has ties to b YU

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that's you know, semi retired or retire. That's what Gary

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Anderson is. So if you're gonna go pick somebody up,

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someone that's been a head coach, someone that's been a

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coordinator on the offensive side of the ball, shoot, you

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may have to bring Norm Chow out of retirement.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what he's doing right now, no idea.

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How old is Norm? Norm is?

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, so he's gotta be okay, So he's not.

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Speaker 2: He's seventy nine, So it's not gonna be Norm unfortunately

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for you guys.

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Speaker 4: Probably probably not gonna be normal.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully he's enjoying for Andy Reid.

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Speaker 3: That's a home for they're hoping for and Andy have

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a I know Ronald's over here, like you know, it's like, no,

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you will not you know, because he's a big Kansas

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City Chiefs fan. But we were talking about, like the

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idealic situation for b Way fans is like Kansas City's

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left out of the playoffs. There's a there's a there's

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an uproar, there's a firing, and then and he's like,

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you know what, screw it, I'm going back to my

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alma model.

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Speaker 2: Lets go win a Natty and I'll be a senior analyst.

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I'll help him recruit. Like, I don't know if it's

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gonna happen, guys, I don't know, but we do have

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a lot of money. How much is Andy making ten

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mill ten million year?

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Speaker 5: I think I saw a graphic recently that he's one

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of the highest paid coaches in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: He's making twenty million antally.

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Speaker 4: That's that's just from State Farm.

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Speaker 2: I'm tell you, like I'll talk. I hope I really

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do no offense. Andy.

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Speaker 3: I hope you get fired and you can go you

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can become a senior analyst and be why you so

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that you can you can lead us to a natty.

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Like that's the situation. I'm just saying like if any look,

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you got enough money, now you're gonna have You're gonna

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have a payout. You get fired because you don't miss

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the playoffs one time and you're one of the greatest

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NFL coaches all time, and you're like, you know what,

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Screw the NFL. I'll be a senior analyst. I have

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enough money. Now it's time to give back to the

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Lord's University. As Elder Oaks and Elder Holland stated in

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their podcast, this just about.

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Speaker 2: A month ago. Did you know that?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 4: I did?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did for the fiftieth anniversary. See this is

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Right's a event. He listens and all the stuff. So

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that's the idea. But who is it, you know what

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I mean? Who's that senior analyst that's gonna booy up

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a rod to elite play calling ability.

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Speaker 5: And here's the thing is, I don't disagree with the

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idea of like bolstering like our coaching stuff and having

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more eyes on on things like strategy and and game

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prep and all.

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Speaker 4: That kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: I think to some degree, the more the merrier, I mean,

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obviously there gets a point where there's like law of

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diminishing returns. But I don't disagree with that, But at

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the same time, you have to give credit where credit's due,

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and Aaron Roderick has has done a really good job.

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I mean we're talking about like not only have we

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done that in the past two years, but we've also

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joined a conference we have and we have one I

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mean at a historic clip, right, Like when we talk

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about these you asked earlier about like who is that

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that oc that like you can point to.

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Speaker 3: And in these Robertanie it Jeff Grimes, isn't it?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Arod obviously, isn't it the Norm Chow?

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Speaker 3: Maybe possibly, but even that, like he was a hiss

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and a byword for some uh. And so they go

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back to the past. It's the idea. And this is

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what I bring up in our culture. And the Jews

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are the same as the Mormons. We worship the are

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kaik profits the former ones. Like you get far away

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enough from the memory, you know, you don't remember any

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bad You're like, oh, yeah, it was Doug Skulville. You know,

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you gotta go way back, that's what you have to do.

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And then like you you idolize that the individual that

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was there sixty years.

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Speaker 2: Ago, like oh, he was the perfect oh see, who's

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the best. But at the time the prophet is never

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accepted in his own land.

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Speaker 4: That's that's probably.

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Speaker 3: Norm Chall leaves and you're like, man, no, you know what,

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Norm Chall was good. Robert and I leaves, He goes

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to Virginia, takes his team to an Orange Bowl, you know,

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and then ends up at NC State too. That was

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kind of interesting as a coordinator. Now he's retired from

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Doctor and I. But like, as they get away, then

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you're more grateful for them because you're like, oh, maybe

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maybe isn't so bad. Maybe, But at the time they

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were like, get him out, we're just so bad. Run

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run past draw or whatever it is that they talk

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about the like, oh, the draw, play the draw, play

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down and he's going to do the draw playing.

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Speaker 4: With a NYE.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what they played.

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Speaker 4: They say, It's just it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeahs past draw, it was what it was.

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Speaker 5: I think they say, yep, yeah, I think I think

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this all stems from just kind of the culture of

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the BYU fans, right, like, we have such high expectations

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for our team, and it's it's because we've seen so

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much success over the year at any level that we're

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playing at whether that's in the Whack or the Mountain

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West or Independent now in the Big twelve, like, we

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fully expect our teams to play well. Yeah, and I'm

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I'm fortunate in that, Like I have very few years

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during my fandom where we've had a poor team.

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Speaker 3: Since nineteen seventy two, you average, as a BYUVN you

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win eight games a season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean we are spoiled rotten.

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Speaker 3: We even during Independence, we're winning eight games on average

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a season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and it's pretty incredible.

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Speaker 3: Were off not we're going bowl games. So twenty seventeen

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go to a bowl game, and then your first year

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the Big twelve, twenty and twenty three didn't go to

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a bowl game. Before that, it was two thousand and four.

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You didn't go to a bowl game for two thousand two,

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two thousand and three, two thousand and four.

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Speaker 2: Prior to that.

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Speaker 3: Man, I think you went to bowl games every single

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year almost from like seventy four to two thousand and one.

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I think you had I think you had consecutive bowl games.

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I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 2: I think you had. From seventy four to two thousand

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and I think you went to bowl games every single season, yeah. So,

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I mean, you think of that and.

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Speaker 3: Like eight wins a season, you go to bowl games

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every year minus like four times since nineteen seventy four,

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You're like, I'm a little bit spot.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm a little bit in toitle. Maybe you know. Anyway,

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to your point, you've been blessed as a BA fan.

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Speaker 5: Talk to an Indiana fan, Talk to a Vanderbilt fan.

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Talk to some of these teams that are now just

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having success in recent years, but for decades they stunk,

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you know what I mean, And we are spoiled. That's

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not to say that we don't, like I was so

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bummed when we found out that we weren't going to

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the College Football Playoff. But at the same time, that

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doesn't take away from the fact that we this season

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was truly magical considering what we thought the season was

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going to become.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I'll correct myself because it was a different era. Right, So,

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just because you're bowl eligible doesn't mean you're going to

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a bowl game. You missed out since n from nineteen

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seventy four to two thousand and one, Okay, you missed

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out on five bowl opportunities, right, so five out of

473
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those years, only five years and then from from two

474
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thousand and five to present day, there's only been two years,

475
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so sixth what is that?

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Speaker 2: Seven times? Is that right? Seven times? No? No, No,

477
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I'm not very good at math. Yeah, yes, I think

478
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seven times.

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Speaker 3: Since nineteen seventy two, you haven't gone to a bowl

480
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game some fifty years.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's blessed.

482
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Speaker 3: And you're winning eight games this season, right, yeah, pretty impressive.

483
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So I guess, uh, I guess we've addressed a couple

484
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of questions. Okay, we've we've were somewhat transitioned over to hoop,

485
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but we're still intrigued by football. For roster attrition, senior bowls,

486
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getting prepped for the bowl game, you have the opportunity

487
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to beat the top twenty five team. Do very rarely

488
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in any in bowl history do you have an opportunity

489
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to win and compete against a top twenty five team. Okay,

490
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and traditionally in bowl games, By the way, when BYU plays,

491
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do you know what they're they're they're winning percentages in

492
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bowl games since nineteen seventy.

493
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Speaker 4: Four, zero idea. But I assuem probably pretty high.

494
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Speaker 2: Forty percent.

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Speaker 5: Oh really less than I would have thought forty percent.

496
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Speaker 2: Man in bowl games.

497
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Speaker 3: Forty five now, sorry, forty one bowls they win forty

498
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five percent of the time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so eighteen and twenty two and one.

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess we're gonna find out how good of

501
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an OCU Roderk is.

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Speaker 2: Huh yeah, no, one hundred percent.

503
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna see, uh, you know what he can

504
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do with some prep and U versus I mean, look

505
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versus anyone not named Texas Tech.

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Speaker 2: He's actually done pretty well this year.

507
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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely so.

508
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Speaker 2: And Texas Tech very well could be the best defense

509
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in college football.

510
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's it's I mean, it's up there a.

511
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Speaker 2: They're giving up eleven points a game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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in former b YU great quarterback. We got Steve Clements

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on the Live Steve. How you living, Buddy?

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Speaker 6: I'm good, Ben. How are you my friend?

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm doing fantastic living the dream man number one?

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Speaker 2: How's the fam? How's work? How's life?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Life of glorious? FAM's great? Getting ready for Christmas? All

603
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the things that go around, all the madness and the

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method to the madness and everything above all of the above.

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That's good, man, really good, Love.

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Speaker 3: It man, Blessings on blessings. How would you describe this?

607
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BYU Cougar football season? Right eleven and two, you're only

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two losses or to the number four team in the country.

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That number four team could be the national champion at

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the end of the year. You're going to the Orlando

611
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Pop Tarts Bowl and taking on a top twenty five opponent.

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Speaker 2: In Georgia Tech. How would you describe this season?

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Speaker 6: I believe I predicted. I believe it was nine and four.

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So for me individually, it was a success, and I

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think generally speaking, in my opinion, it's a it's a success.

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I think what what is happening in the last three

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years is there's now a pattern of consistency, and now

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with that comes expectations, and you're always going to have

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unrealistic expectations from the fan base, whatever school you're cheering for,

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whatever NFL team or sports team or whatever. There's always

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going to be that sect of fans that are very

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unrealistic in the expectations. And that's fine, that's great. That's

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what makes sports great too, because a fan is a

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is short for fanatic, right, that's kind of That's a

625
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great thing about sports and following a team and getting

626
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behind someone and supporting them almost till death to his part.

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It's in some facets of that. I don't go to

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that extreme, but for me, it was a success for

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many of the things you just outlined. Our two losses

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are from you know, a lot of pundits could be

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a national champion twenty twenty six. When it's all said

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and done, they have a extraordinary defense. They're also building

633
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a program of consistency. Jack was not even when the

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leech was there, and Mahomes and you know, they started

635
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to be on the radar, but still they were, you know,

636
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their best string of victories or when loss records were

637
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probably nine and three and eight and four, and they

638
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were never in the national picture ever, at least in football.

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And so there's a lot of up and comers, and

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I think BYU is now is returning to that pattern

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of consistency over the last couple of years. And sure

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expectations are going to be a little bit hard, but

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our expectations aren't going to be any higher than the

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head coach himself, or a Rod or Jay Hill themselves,

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or the players themselves. So I mean, that's it's not

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gonna be anything foreign to those guys because they're they're

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not competing against teams a lot of times, they're competing

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against themselves. And how can they can better themselves? Klania,

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how can he better himself as a head football coach

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and a leader of b YU football. And so we

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always have. I mean, if you're you're done it the

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right way. These these realistic expectations that are also measurable.

653
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So in sport you measure success or failure really by

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wins and losses, and sometimes that's very unfair in sports.

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That's why we keep score. There's a winner and there's

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a loser. Unts your plays off, then there could be

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a tie. But I digress. And so for me long answer,

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short answer, yes, absolutely a success.

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Speaker 2: So an overachieving success.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like from your your your evaluation, right, an

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overachieving success. Going eleven and two, you predicted nine and

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four correct, Okay, even though it was the better throwing

663
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right handed Tim Tebo that was leading BYU to glorin victory,

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you said nine and four, right.

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Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. You know what you know and

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you don't know what you don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: So for those b YU fans that are a little

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troubled by the offense still, they feel like, hey, we're

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missing something offensively, A rod is missing something offensive.

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Speaker 2: This is what I'm getting back, right.

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Speaker 3: They they're very happy about the defense, very happy about

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special teams.

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Speaker 2: Overall the last couple of years, they feel like there's.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of a void, a little bit of need,

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a much needed improvement somewhere, and they want an analyst

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to come in and support a rod.

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Speaker 2: What's your reaction to that?

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Speaker 3: When you hear those commentaries, those evaluation from fans, I mean,

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I mean, I'm getting hit up about it, right, They're like, hey,

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why not get an analyst like Gary Anderson that on

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the office side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're saying.

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Speaker 6: Your reaction, right, boy, offense is very very difficult to

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call to manage, to coordinate.

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Speaker 3: And everybody knows you were how long did you coach?

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How long did you play college ball?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: And then how how many years did you coach and

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coordinate on the offense side of the ball, And for like,

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you know, give me a litt little bit of the

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resume so that we know what we're talking about here

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when we're where we're talking ball here and coordinating on

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the offense side of the ball.

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Speaker 6: Well, I always played I on the offense side of

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the wall, playing quarterback my entire life.

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Speaker 3: All Americans coming out of high school in Texas, Okay,

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all American went to UT right and then transferred to BYU.

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Speaker 6: Correct, there's two plays in high school when I was

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a sophomore, and once I got in on defense, we're

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beating the team fifty six to nothing. One of our

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safeties goes down and right next I'm standing right next

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to the defensive corderor I got my helmet off, like

704
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,920
I'm done for the game this second half and we're

705
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,639
whooping these dudes, and he's looking around he needs a

706
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:38,719
sub right now, Clement's go in. Well, I'm a sophomore, okay.

707
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,159
And Dad was never he was my coach, and he

708
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,800
would never allow me to play defense ever, because if

709
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,000
he loses me, you don't just lose, you know, a

710
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:56,119
really good quarterback, you lose a second position on defense too, Right,

711
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,800
So I couldn't hold, I couldn't pond. I could do

712
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:04,239
anything but throw the freaking pigskin because people are going

713
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,320
to take cheap shots, and so I did that. I

714
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,960
had the same philosophy or my quarterbacks when I coached

715
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,639
in high school. So I coached in high school. After that,

716
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,039
I'm still coaching. So it's been thirty years and outside

717
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:21,719
of the last couple of years on the fifth grade

718
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,880
B team team, I've coached offense. I was a defensive

719
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:32,920
coordinator for this fifth grade team last year. But yeah,

720
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:36,159
the majority ninety five percent of my coaching career was

721
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,360
on the offensive side, and so I get it, like

722
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:42,239
I understand it.

723
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: Okay, So when you hear that, that's the feedback that

724
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,280
I'm getting right now, your reaction to it, and you

725
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,599
were saying how difficult it is.

726
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:57,039
Speaker 6: So I will say I was at the game in

727
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:04,320
Cowboys Stadium and I was frustrated. Uh, I yelled for

728
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,480
the first time. I haven't. I don't typically yell in

729
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:15,199
person at a game because until well, you really think

730
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:18,440
they can hear you. It's like yelling, you know, through

731
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,440
the TV. But some way somewhere in your brain you're like, yeah,

732
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:26,039
they're gonna they're gonna hear this one. They might not

733
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:30,880
hear everybody else, but watch, they're gonna hear this, and

734
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,719
they're gonna change and they're gonna do what I want

735
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,440
them to do. I was frustrated we were not throwing

736
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,400
the ball down the field vertically. In the West Coast offense,

737
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,719
we learned to stretch. We're not just stretching horizontally. You

738
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,360
stretch vertically too. Even if a receiver is at thirty

739
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,760
yards down the field. And you throw it at fifty,

740
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:54,800
the dB has to least at some point go I

741
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,599
may need to take it a half a step back

742
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,360
because there is a threat. There is a potential for

743
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,079
us to go down the field and having an explosive

744
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:09,880
play over the top of me. And I was very

745
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,800
frustrated that we didn't push the ball vertically down the field,

746
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,480
except really for the one time we had to pass

747
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,239
interference call and got us fifteen yards but against the

748
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,159
Chase Roberts, I believe. But other than that, it was

749
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:30,760
we were going east and west with our program, you know,

750
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:34,760
and that was yeah, I was. I was frustrated with it,

751
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:39,760
and I probably I think what a wader was probably

752
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,880
trying to do, or trying to wear out the defensive

753
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,599
line and run them east and west back and forth.

754
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:54,639
That's a conjecture on my part because again it's really

755
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:57,480
really hard. But at the same time, yeah, I was

756
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:00,800
highly frustrated. I think we should had thrown the ball

757
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:08,239
generally more throughout the year, as Bear progressed in the

758
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:15,280
throw game than we did. He is extremely accurate and

759
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,360
way more accurate than I probably gave him credit for.

760
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:21,079
But only seeing him, you know, just before the season

761
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,239
in practice, like, yeah, he can throw it too. You

762
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,440
hear about the running and you see the legs and

763
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,320
the backside, and you're like, Okay, he's gonna be a dude.

764
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,000
But yeah, there's he's gonna be a better throwing Tim Peele.

765
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,000
He's way better throwing than Tim Deepot. But I thought

766
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:39,639
coming into the season, yeah he's a little bit better.

767
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,239
No no, no, no, no, he's way better. And I think

768
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,719
it at some point, hopefully this next year or maybe

769
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,440
even this or bowl game, we just cut him loose

770
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:55,239
and give him fifty six attempts and go, okay, let's go,

771
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:58,679
let's get ready for next year. We're gonna we're gonna

772
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,320
throw the crap out of the ball bowl game, last

773
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,119
game of the year. Let's let's take the training wheels

774
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:05,719
off and let's go.

775
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,079
Speaker 2: Okay.

776
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: So that being said, it sounds like you're open to

777
00:39:09,079 --> 00:39:11,760
a senior analyst coming into UH maybe aid.

778
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 2: And support a rod. How difficult is that though?

779
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 3: To have someone in here, you gotta trust them, at

780
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,519
a senior analyst that you really trust, that you have

781
00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:25,000
great rapport with. Right like that, that's not you know, confrontational,

782
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,079
and that is.

783
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: UH on the team.

784
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: You know, what I mean, they're an analyst, right, who's

785
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:33,920
the who's the perfect who's the perfect analyst? The senior

786
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,199
analyst to be right there next to a rod in

787
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,559
the booth, helping him call plays, telling.

788
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: Them, Hey, let's push the ball downfield.

789
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 3: I think we can get We have a few wide

790
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,400
shoes that can win on the outside.

791
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: Let's go.

792
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:57,559
Speaker 6: Oh, I'll do it. Let's I mean, why not, let's go.

793
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,840
I don't know. That's a good question, I I I

794
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,159
haven't thought about that until you just said it. As

795
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:12,039
far as bringing an analysis analyst in on that side

796
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:14,760
of the ball, yeah, I know, coach Anderson's on the

797
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,159
defensive side of the ball. Wow, I don't know. I

798
00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:24,079
have to really think about someone with that type of

799
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:28,440
experience that, like you said, has those qualities. It's it's

800
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,719
not one that's gonna go.

801
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,639
Speaker 2: You know the reason why I'm here a buck for

802
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,559
his job.

803
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: And analyst that's in his he's in the twilight of

804
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,360
his career. He's been a head coach, he's been a DC,

805
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,719
he's like a part time senior analyst, and he's got

806
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,559
great rapport with Jay Hill, right, Like it is really

807
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:51,280
good balance in all that. Uh, you know, we've seen

808
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,000
Sark be an offensive analyst at Alabama when he was

809
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:57,840
kind of coming off of you know, it felt like

810
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:03,360
Nick Saban was the guy to bring in like head

811
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,519
coaches that had fallen from Grace, that had coordinating ability,

812
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:09,719
and then he'd pay him a nice salary to be

813
00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:13,280
around one of the best programs, if not the best

814
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,440
program at the time. So like, you could do something

815
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:19,920
like that, Uh, there's no doubt about it. Or you

816
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,519
can bring in someone like Gary. I don't know what

817
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:25,320
the answer is, but I'm just id eighty here, this

818
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,039
is ah, this is radio right.

819
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,039
Speaker 2: Let me let me take a step back here.

820
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: Who's the greatest offensive coordinator in BYU football history, Steve

821
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,119
And how many fans wanted him fired? What percentage of

822
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:39,679
fans wanted him fired even when he was at his.

823
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 6: Peace that yeah, well that's norm shout.

824
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: And about half of them want him fired.

825
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 6: Well, I was one of them, and I played because

826
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,440
and and and but I will I will always say this,

827
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:02,519
even though there was something said and represented that didn't

828
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:08,079
necessarily come true when I was there playing, I have

829
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,559
never ever denied the fact that I think he was

830
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:19,480
the greatest offensive line in football in that era because

831
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:26,599
his ability to really adjust on the fly, not just

832
00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:28,840
have a great game plan, but adjust on the fly.

833
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:35,760
And he didn't coach the quarterbacks, he didn't coach the receivers,

834
00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:42,360
he didn't coach alignment. He coached every single position down

835
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,760
to how to break on a curl route or I mean,

836
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:54,800
he was so smart at every position and knew exactly

837
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,960
what everybody needed to do and how to get there

838
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:03,400
and the techniques that was required to get there. Man,

839
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,920
when you have one of your philosophies is well, I

840
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,880
think the biggest fillot, the one that stands out the most,

841
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:13,000
is I want somebody to who makes plays. I don't

842
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:19,239
care what they look like. I don't care how tall, short, fast, slow, whatever.

843
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:23,800
Can you make plays? Period? Now you would take specifically

844
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:30,559
to the receivers. He would say the I'm gonna get

845
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:32,280
this right. Dredge is gonna kill me if I don't

846
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:39,400
get this right. The difficult catches a routine. The impossible

847
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,039
catches just take a little bit more time. So there

848
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:46,719
was really no room for error with his philosophy, especially

849
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,800
with receivers. I mean, he was a mini perfectionist, and

850
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:57,199
he was really really good at what he did. A master,

851
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:03,519
I think of it. Even though we had our differences

852
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:06,760
as far as playing time and whatever else, I'm not

853
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:13,280
denying the fact that the man was a freaking genius.

854
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,440
And a lot of what Leech learned was from obviously

855
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,960
BYU and Norm was there so and learned from those

856
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:29,760
guys as well. I don't know what he's doing, but

857
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,480
I know he's been retired for quite some time.

858
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:35,199
Speaker 2: He's seventy nineties alost eighty enormous.

859
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:38,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, and I think he got more into the

860
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:41,559
you know, when he went pro there the latter part

861
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:45,199
of his career, he was already gearing his offense towards

862
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:50,119
that more of a run dominating offense that he had

863
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:53,719
kind of moved away from, you know, the fifty two

864
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,800
to fifty two tig in San Diego State, the Aztecs

865
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,719
back in the day in the early nineties, in those

866
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,880
type of games that we had, and they're in the

867
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,679
early nineties when I was playing there. But uh, yeah,

868
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:18,599
I don't have to think about a name as far

869
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:22,679
as that's concerned. Now you look at Starky's in I

870
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,519
don't think he's the one that's ever going to give

871
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:27,000
that up. Like if they were bringing analysis in there.

872
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,519
What he did early at ut he brought an analyst in,

873
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,360
but it was Gary Patterson had TCU. Well, he's a

874
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,920
defensive guy. As an offensive coach, that was more for

875
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,360
the defensive side, and so I don't know if he'd

876
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,440
even you know, want analyst around. I mean, if if

877
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,599
it was somebody like Kiffin or somebody, But that's not

878
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:56,840
happening anytime soon. So I don't know. That's that's actually

879
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,280
that's a really good question on who. I don't think

880
00:45:59,280 --> 00:45:59,639
about that.

881
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:02,599
Speaker 3: Hey, Mat well, hey search pond and pranod and prep

882
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,679
prep you for it. But at just had a little

883
00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:08,719
ideation session with you here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network.

884
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,880
Steve Plemmet's former BWE quarterback here on your on your.

885
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: Cougar Sports show.

886
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,199
Speaker 3: Last thing before we let you go, Steve, If b

887
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:21,760
YU wins, okay, Like does your satisfaction and how you

888
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,719
view this season is some of it determined about how

889
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,599
bo you finishes this season at the bowl game. You

890
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:29,199
got to get a win for this to be like

891
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,159
one of the best seasons in BWA football history.

892
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 6: No, uh huh, I don't, I really don't. I think

893
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:43,639
I think we got shrew not being in the playoffs

894
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:50,920
right now, and so once that happened, it was and

895
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,159
I still think, again that's tongue in cheek. I'm still

896
00:46:54,280 --> 00:47:00,239
I still think we had a successful season overall. I

897
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:05,159
think we had a successful season even before we played

898
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:12,039
the championship game, regardless of the outcome, but especially now,

899
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:18,599
both games are just a man, those are those are

900
00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:22,440
tough because after a season like this and it's it's

901
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:25,920
really good, and then it's like you kind of fall

902
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,239
off the cliff and psychologically and mentally and we're almost there,

903
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,559
and then we have to rely on a group of

904
00:47:33,159 --> 00:47:36,000
you know, people to decide whether we're in this college

905
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,760
football playoffs or not. And and really not based on

906
00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:43,719
resume per se, because I mean, we had one of

907
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:50,639
the better resumes in those you know latter six teams

908
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,280
that made it. Uh maybe not the first six or

909
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,480
seven there it is, but you know the latter part

910
00:47:58,519 --> 00:48:04,719
of seven, eight through twelve. But we got punished for

911
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,840
playing in a championship game Alabama did not, and then

912
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,239
our record spoke for itself, and yeah, we just we

913
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,719
got the raw end of the deal. But I, at

914
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,000
least in my mind, I think I thought it was

915
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,039
already a success before that, so nothing's gonna change my

916
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:28,440
mind anything that happens from here on out.

917
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,119
Speaker 3: So let's go Steve Clemens, Ladies and gentlemen. Steve always

918
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:35,559
appreciate our time together. Thanks for hopping on. We'll catch

919
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:37,800
up you again soon. Thanks for another keeping up with

920
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:38,559
the Cougar segment.

921
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 6: Hi, brother, take care man.

922
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,559
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