Speaker 1: For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female
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Speaker 1: and a commitment to her crack. With daughter Samantha Stumpo
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Speaker 1: Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails.
Speaker 2: And welcome to Cindy Stumpbo Tough as Nails on WBZ
Speaker 2: News Radio and I'm in the studio with who Samantha
Speaker 2: and who's in the studio coming through on whatever this
Speaker 2: is called all this technology crap? Brother Nelson, do you
Speaker 2: have a less name?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 7: Okay, you know your name sounds like a car.
Speaker 3: It sounds like car.
Speaker 5: What kind of car? It can only it can only
Speaker 5: be three options though, so Rose Royce, the Lamborghini, and
Speaker 5: the belly which one.
Speaker 2: We don't get either.
Speaker 5: It can be like.
Speaker 2: Sounds it sounds like a car out of Nigeria, right,
Speaker 2: you know what it kind.
Speaker 5: Of does, right, like a Pega.
Speaker 2: Yeah, coming out of Nigeria. Okay, listen, what are we
Speaker 2: talking about right now?
Speaker 3: We're talking about chatter. We're talking about chatter social?
Speaker 2: What is chatter social? You know, there's a whole country
Speaker 2: out there that does not understand social audio. You do
Speaker 2: you understand that? I think there's a plane that flies
Speaker 2: around Texas and maybe in Florida. Otherwise Boston and many
Speaker 2: of the states don't even know what social audio is.
Speaker 2: So you're here to educate them.
Speaker 3: So one hundercent social audio.
Speaker 5: Well, we're we're creating We're creating a platform that that
Speaker 5: we call social audio visual right real time experiences with
Speaker 5: both audio and visual and essentially using that as a
Speaker 5: way to make social networking more social, right, I mean
Speaker 5: you think about like your experiences on Instagram or Twitter.
Speaker 5: You know, you're liking pictures or you're retweeting tweets. You're
Speaker 5: not necessarily getting to connect with people. You're not necessarily
Speaker 5: getting to know people understand people.
Speaker 2: So I can kind of break it down a little bit.
Speaker 2: So when I want to debate somebody in politics or whatever,
Speaker 2: we can go live together on a screen and actually
Speaker 2: look at each other in the eyes and go at
Speaker 2: it instead of looking like trolls going at it on
Speaker 2: a Twitter feed or an Instagram right, Like, I get
Speaker 2: to look you in the eyes. You get to look
Speaker 2: me in the eyes, which is I think personally that's
Speaker 2: the fun part. But before we get more into social audio,
Speaker 2: explain to the listeners who you are, how this started,
Speaker 2: Who's the CEO, who's the founder? Bring us to light here?
Speaker 5: Well, you know Nelson and Pega. I'm twenty eight years old,
Speaker 5: started off as a real estate investor. About eight years
Speaker 5: ago when I was twenty, I think.
Speaker 2: Or your baby ahead, I can't even Matthew.
Speaker 5: Four years ago called Clubhouse, and this was a platform
Speaker 5: that essentially.
Speaker 3: Pushed the rise of social.
Speaker 5: Audio, and on this platform, I ended up just falling
Speaker 5: in love with the concept of using your voice to
Speaker 5: connect with people, using your voice to market your product, right,
Speaker 5: using your voice to be more social. Right, and you know, a.
Speaker 2: Few months into but I couldn't well, you couldn't through COVID,
Speaker 2: right because everybody was stranded. So that was a perfect launch,
Speaker 2: perfect time for them, because I don't know. I worked
Speaker 2: every day. We're essential you worked every day. I still
Speaker 2: see social audio for me. For me, if I don't
Speaker 2: want to run out or I can't sleep at midnight,
Speaker 2: let's say and raise sound asleep to do He's off
Speaker 2: in neving. I can always jump into a room and
Speaker 2: hang out a bunch of people. I might like them,
Speaker 2: I might not like them. I might debate them. I
Speaker 2: might it might be a great conversation. It could be
Speaker 2: six women in a room together and we have the
Speaker 2: most awesome conversation. It could be three hundred people in
Speaker 2: a room together. It could be a thousand people. It
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's like you're never alone, if that makes
Speaker 2: any sense. Like, if you don't want to be alone,
Speaker 2: you don't have to be loan. You can be with
Speaker 2: your kids, your husband and your wife, blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and sometimes you just need a break. And I just
Speaker 2: find it's another way of Sometimes I always say this,
Speaker 2: it's easier to talk to strangers than talk to people
Speaker 2: that you know in your everyday life, which is very weird.
Speaker 7: That's how therapists make money.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, then.
Speaker 5: She's absolutely correct though. It's like again, and it's something new,
Speaker 5: it's something fresh, and majority of people on a planet
Speaker 5: don't know about it, right, I mean, just imagine how
Speaker 5: many people are listening to us right now in their cars,
Speaker 5: right on a radio station.
Speaker 3: Well, think of.
Speaker 5: You being able to do that and being able to pause,
Speaker 5: raise your hand and join this conversation in real time
Speaker 5: as opposed to just listen. Right.
Speaker 3: Think about watching.
Speaker 5: Your favorite podcast like we all do on YouTube, or
Speaker 5: watching our favorite streamers or just gamers or whatever, and
Speaker 5: being able to again in real time interact with both
Speaker 5: your voice and the option of going on camera. Right.
Speaker 5: It takes social experiences to the next level and allows
Speaker 5: for true connection. Right, Like you think about like the
Speaker 5: friends of my life right now, all my best friends
Speaker 5: I met from social audio, Jonathan Baning, Cindy Stumpo. I mean,
Speaker 5: the list goes on and on and on social audio, right,
Speaker 5: because again we're able to use the most authentic take
Speaker 5: part of our selves as human beings, our voices, to
Speaker 5: really get to know one another.
Speaker 3: Right, and yeah, I mean it's unlike anything I've.
Speaker 5: Ever seen in the world. Right, and chatter is building
Speaker 5: on top of that framework and adding it to the
Speaker 5: various elements of social media that we're currently used to today, right, podcasting, gaming,
Speaker 5: short form videos, right, just all those various elements that
Speaker 5: were already used to Okay, so just throwing that social
Speaker 5: audio compona.
Speaker 2: I still want to bring you back twenty eight years old.
Speaker 2: You decided. I think I know how it went. The
Speaker 2: other app will call it. We don't have to give
Speaker 2: them any advertising the other app. Right, It's like when
Speaker 2: I'm on I can't hold up this because I'm giving
Speaker 2: them a free advertising. Anyways, with that being said, you
Speaker 2: learned how to be a great, great moderator. Right. No
Speaker 2: one can moderate the way you can. And I've been
Speaker 2: in a ton of rooms. No one can live up
Speaker 2: a crowd. You can dismantle people. You bring them up.
Speaker 2: You're throwing them all over the place like rag dolls. Right,
Speaker 2: But that's what makes it fun. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: everybody's followers got removed. That was the start of it,
Speaker 2: and you were like, We're like, well, well, what's going
Speaker 2: on here. Everybody built up fifty sixty seventy thousand followers, boom,
Speaker 2: all taken away. They changed their whole concept, and you said,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go out, I'm going to do this,
Speaker 2: I'm going to do this better than them. And that's
Speaker 2: how it actually.
Speaker 3: Started, right absolutely, so absolutely.
Speaker 2: As a guy that's just not getting into the tech world,
Speaker 2: the difference is you're a guy that's actually been using
Speaker 2: this app close to five years now. You see everything.
Speaker 2: You see what people like, you see what people don't like.
Speaker 2: You have learned actually from the outside in instead of
Speaker 2: learning from the inside out. Right, So that's what makes
Speaker 2: you good at what you're building here, because you know
Speaker 2: what people want and you know what people don't want. Heck, guys,
Speaker 2: we don't understand. They don't understand what the people looking
Speaker 2: for you do. And I think that's going to be
Speaker 2: the game changer here that you went from the outside
Speaker 2: in and not the inside out as form in this company.
Speaker 5: Absolutely and you know, I can say the same thing
Speaker 5: for everyone on our team as well, right, all of us,
Speaker 5: all of us. I mean, think about it, our cto Heraine.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's been a million Marathon community member for years. Right,
Speaker 5: he was among one of the first private beta testers
Speaker 5: on Chatter. Right. You look at Kim Green, our marketing director.
Speaker 5: She's been a million Marathon member for a long time,
Speaker 5: even through to when.
Speaker 3: We migrated over to Twitter. You look at the whole team.
Speaker 5: You're talking about a team of individuals that are power
Speaker 5: social audio users and have identified all the various flaws
Speaker 5: in regards to how everyone else has done it. And
Speaker 5: we're coming at this from that user perspective, right, that
Speaker 5: perspective of individuals that use an application every single day
Speaker 5: and know everything there is to know about it, right,
Speaker 5: And it's the first time it's ever been done right,
Speaker 5: users coming together to build out a product the right
Speaker 5: way for the masses. And Yeah, I think I think.
Speaker 5: I think the history books are gonna.
Speaker 2: All that thought, all that thought, we gonna go to break. Okay,
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Speaker 5: Let's get down, Let's get down to business. Give you
Speaker 5: one more night, one more night to get this. We've
Speaker 5: had a million million nights just like this. So let's
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Speaker 2: Let's get down and welcome back to Sidney Stubbo Toughest
Speaker 2: Nails on WBZ, and I'm in the studio to night
Speaker 2: with Samantha and.
Speaker 7: Nel your actual child and your adopted child.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I got like, come on man, I
Speaker 2: got shy, I got kid, I got Freddy. I don't
Speaker 2: know and all I know, I'm a psychiatrist over there,
Speaker 2: but I personally in the last close to it will
Speaker 2: be four years November. I've made a lot of great
Speaker 2: friends on there. I really have like women that I
Speaker 2: talked to, guys I talked to as friends. But there's
Speaker 2: Yvonne on there, There's ann on there. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: so many I can keep naming. Danielle oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: No like that. I'll call and talk to them as women,
Speaker 2: right that I would never have known Jonathan Daphney. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've all got together in Florida, We've all socialized. I
Speaker 2: mean it's a different experience, and the demographics of us
Speaker 2: all age differently, and we just all grove together. This
Speaker 2: is the crazy part. Right, you're twenty eight, you're younger
Speaker 2: than Chad, so, but you're hanging out with forty year olds,
Speaker 2: fifty year olds and sixty year olds. Right, So it's
Speaker 2: just a different It's nothing like I've ever seen before.
Speaker 2: I never thought that would exist, And now I thought,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go meet people in Florida that I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I that they're on my Instagram or
Speaker 2: they're on my you know, Twitter, or they're on my LinkedIn. Right, Well,
Speaker 2: LinkedIn's a little different because it's business.
Speaker 7: But I've heard you say time and time again, how
Speaker 7: much you want.
Speaker 2: To go into your mic. You hear about your micro
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 7: To see myself and do this. I've heard you save
Speaker 7: time and time again. How much you learn from this app?
Speaker 2: Thousand percent? You learn human nature. That's what I've learned. Right,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to learn a lot about my business,
Speaker 2: let's say with real estate guys, right, but I learned
Speaker 2: such more important things. I learned human nature. I learned
Speaker 2: how to work around multiple personalities in a room. Nelson,
Speaker 2: you're running rooms with thousands of people a million marathon,
Speaker 2: mean you know now you're going to learn how to
Speaker 2: groove with people. And here's the big one. If you
Speaker 2: don't know how to groove with people on social audio,
Speaker 2: how are you going to do it in the real world.
Speaker 2: So it's a great it's a great learning experience to
Speaker 2: come on, especially for the younger generation that's a little
Speaker 2: shy or whatever. If you can come on there and
Speaker 2: start to talk to people, and whether it's debating or
Speaker 2: whether it's a casual conversation, it starts to break you
Speaker 2: out of your shell. Because if you can't do it
Speaker 2: on there, you can't do it in real life. That's
Speaker 2: my feeling. So I think it's a really good stepping stool,
Speaker 2: a stepping stone for younger people to get more comfortable
Speaker 2: with public speaking. Too.
Speaker 7: I think it makes people you.
Speaker 2: Got a peepe you gotta do people, and it's gotta
Speaker 2: do peep. I think, Okay, what are we three?
Speaker 7: Naturally vulnerable and want to be vulnerable, whereas most people
Speaker 7: in the real world don't like to be vulnerable like that.
Speaker 2: So you think the app makes people a little bit
Speaker 2: more vulnerable.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like how many times you said, like I've had
Speaker 7: a bad day when I come on the app and
Speaker 7: talk about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, So it gives me my moment after work
Speaker 2: an eighteen hour a day, come home, have dinner with Ray,
Speaker 2: spend some time with Ray. And you know my time
Speaker 2: is like nine nine thirty to come on, right.
Speaker 7: But it only takes you to say that for everybody
Speaker 7: else that if they're feeling that, to say that.
Speaker 2: Too, correct, So they're not alone, right, So everybody, Look,
Speaker 2: that's how I see social audio is it's all walks
Speaker 2: of life, right. We all come from different countries that
Speaker 2: come on there, we all have different background of religion, race,
Speaker 2: and then you're going to end up with your own
Speaker 2: like minded people. You're not going to you know, you
Speaker 2: have a thing called an algorithm and you're in beta
Speaker 2: testing right now. So take that from there. Let's talk
Speaker 2: about the beta testing and the algorithm and explain to
Speaker 2: people like if there's certain rooms you don't want to see,
Speaker 2: you will not be seeing those rooms.
Speaker 5: No, absolutely, I mean just everything Cindy said is just factual, right,
Speaker 5: And I mean you usually call you think about like
Speaker 5: the rinds of the internet before before the Internet, where
Speaker 5: you going to network with people? Where are you going
Speaker 5: to meet people? Right? It's I mean you don't have
Speaker 5: the Internet, right, so.
Speaker 7: You're limited to your.
Speaker 5: An immediate ecosystem. I think someone's got to go. You're
Speaker 5: you're limited to your immediate network of people that you
Speaker 5: meet on a day.
Speaker 3: To day or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 5: The Internet broadens that horizon, right, Chatter, social audio, visual,
Speaker 5: I mean expands it significantly. And now it's like, you know,
Speaker 5: going to the bar to talk to twenty people, but
Speaker 5: it's like now you're talking to twenty people in different
Speaker 5: parts of the world, right, who have similar likes and
Speaker 5: interest with you. You're a finance guy, is a finance person.
Speaker 5: I'm in Boston, this one's in La that.
Speaker 3: One's in Dubai, blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: And these people meet, they meet in real life, they
Speaker 5: do business with each other. I mean, I was just
Speaker 5: looking on Donovan's Instagram the other day. Him and Adam
Speaker 5: Elish are now boyfriend girlfriend. He lives in DC, she
Speaker 5: lives in Toronto. They met on chatter. Now he was
Speaker 5: in Toronto last weekend, right, Like this stuff is crazy again.
Speaker 5: Real time authentic connections on the Internet can only be.
Speaker 3: Done on social audio, point blank period.
Speaker 5: Right. You cannot connect with anybody by liking their photos.
Speaker 5: Those two would not be boyfriend girlfriend by liking their
Speaker 5: photos commenting, oh you look hot.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't work like that, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's no, okay, no, we think it's some creepy
Speaker 2: dude that's saying you look cut right, So that don't
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 5: Right on, well, on shatter. If the person's creepy, first
Speaker 5: of all, they're going to say out creepy. Second of all,
Speaker 5: they can.
Speaker 2: Go on camera and then they're gonna look creepy, and
Speaker 2: then we'll figure out you're creepy, and then you need
Speaker 2: to get a camera because you're too creepy for us.
Speaker 5: Right, like, beta, So we started we started beta what
Speaker 5: June first, We had about thirty days of private beta
Speaker 5: with about one thousand users. We started public beta July eleventh,
Speaker 5: so it's about twelve weeks right now, and we're over
Speaker 5: thirty two thousand users already, right and you know, again
Speaker 5: beta again.
Speaker 2: How many okay, but how many waiting to get in
Speaker 2: on the app? Right now? We have we had thirty
Speaker 2: two thousand active users, and how many are we holding
Speaker 2: back from letting in right now that you're holding back?
Speaker 5: So thirty two thousand total users okay, about sixteen thousand
Speaker 5: in the app with invites and the rest of them
Speaker 5: are waiting.
Speaker 3: To get an invite to get into the app, and.
Speaker 2: That's what's your reason for holding them back? Sorry, what's
Speaker 2: the reason for not just letting the floodgates open and
Speaker 2: let everybody in? Because right now, it's all by invitation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, Because like we're startup, right, and we're
Speaker 3: growing much faster than the average startup. Right, you need
Speaker 3: to have funding, and you need to have a large
Speaker 3: team in order to be able to manage all of
Speaker 3: these things and all these users.
Speaker 5: I mean you look at Facebook and Instagram. These guys
Speaker 5: have like thousands of people on their development team. Right.
Speaker 5: We need to be able to scale to that point,
Speaker 5: and we need to be able to control our growth
Speaker 5: so we can focus on making a platform faster, making
Speaker 5: a platform feel better, less bugs, less glitches, and then
Speaker 5: when we get to a point where we feel comfortable
Speaker 5: with the performance of the platform, then we open it
Speaker 5: up to everybody else. As we raise funding, then we
Speaker 5: speed it up and market and just you know, blow
Speaker 5: this thing up and really bring bring bring it to
Speaker 5: the world's attention.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 2: Now, if I remember, right, we we I don't mean me,
Speaker 2: but we're talking about we because you're in the studio
Speaker 2: right now. You we're going to wait till after January
Speaker 2: to launch it. And then you were on it and
Speaker 2: you were just playing around with grand cardon a few people,
Speaker 2: and he said to you, listen, what are you hiding
Speaker 2: this from the world for? Bring it out? So you
Speaker 2: brought out earlier than planned. And I got to be honest,
Speaker 2: for how fast you brought this out. From from the
Speaker 2: time you started this to the time that you exposed
Speaker 2: it to us in beta testing, you were how many
Speaker 2: months into this?
Speaker 5: Oh my god Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: Maybe nine months.
Speaker 2: That's nine fast.
Speaker 4: That was fast.
Speaker 3: Sorry, twelve month October.
Speaker 2: Is where do you go?
Speaker 7: Where do you go?
Speaker 2: Nelson?
Speaker 5: You're there right here.
Speaker 2: We disappeared, but we're in a studio where I get
Speaker 2: a lot of finger movements, like I'm supposed to understand
Speaker 2: all the finger movements. Andrew again, when you do that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, hilarious.
Speaker 5: I think, Andrew, give me out with it.
Speaker 2: But what go ahead? You're good to go?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's it's just it's just crazy.
Speaker 5: You know, this thing start off as a joke, you know,
Speaker 5: literally start off as a joke, and a in a
Speaker 5: in a room on another app right and people on
Speaker 5: the stage. I mean there was probably like I don't
Speaker 5: know a thousand people in that room, and a bunch
Speaker 5: of people from the community were like, Nelson, why don't
Speaker 5: you just go build a platform, Why don't you just
Speaker 5: go build a platform? And we were all just laughing
Speaker 5: it off. And you know, that night I couldn't go
Speaker 5: to sleep, so thank.
Speaker 2: You, no you go, I'm sorry, but I have us
Speaker 2: because you'll run my clock real fast and go back
Speaker 2: to break. Here's my ques. So we're on Instagram live
Speaker 2: right now, so Andrew's got everything going. I want people
Speaker 2: on Instagram to understand they're on live right now, but
Speaker 2: they could be on social. They could be in chat
Speaker 2: of social and be literally talking right So when we're
Speaker 2: live on Saday nights in the studio and we're not
Speaker 2: pre taping, they can join the conversation. I can leave
Speaker 2: the studio and come right on and speak to them
Speaker 2: on chatter and carry on my conversation.
Speaker 5: Under I mean, right now, there's like I don't know
Speaker 5: sixty some people in a chatter room that can literally
Speaker 5: unmute their mic right now and join this.
Speaker 2: And I want them to do that. We're gonna do that.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna go for a break and I'm on
Speaker 2: that two seconds. Give me, give me a second to
Speaker 2: get out. You're listening to Cindy Stumpo Samantha Stumpo on
Speaker 2: What Sammy w V the news radio Temper and we'll
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Speaker 2: Back and welcome to Cindy Stumpo, Tapess Nails on WBZ
Speaker 2: News Radio. And I'm in here. I'm in the studio
Speaker 2: with your daughter and her name is Sammy and we're
Speaker 2: talking to Nelson. Nelson. Let's go and asked and asked
Speaker 2: us a question? Asked?
Speaker 4: Asked?
Speaker 2: Asked? I said, as for a minute, I don't say act. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's get that straight. I say, asked no ends of
Speaker 2: the day. Okay. I've been hanging out with them for
Speaker 2: too long. Okay, And asked a question. Funniest story between
Speaker 2: you and I in the last four years?
Speaker 5: Wow, funny story. It had to be sometime that you
Speaker 5: cussed me out to be it has.
Speaker 7: To be when you text her on a Sunday saying,
Speaker 7: who are you cussing out today? Because it's not me.
Speaker 2: No, no tuning up. That's always says. He says, what
Speaker 2: gets up your ass on a Sunday morning?
Speaker 7: Can't say that word?
Speaker 2: Yes I can, and that you just tune up? Everybody
Speaker 2: like why are you coming after me? And what do
Speaker 2: I say?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, She's just like Sundays are the days where I
Speaker 5: have the most time because I'm busy during the week,
Speaker 5: so Sundays that's when I can think of process and
Speaker 5: cuts you out. That's what she says.
Speaker 3: Ridiculous. I don't get it, Like it just doesn't make
Speaker 3: any sense.
Speaker 2: You know it does.
Speaker 7: You're not her child, and I deal with that my
Speaker 7: whole life thirty seven years.
Speaker 2: So they all get it. So if you get it
Speaker 2: really bad, then I kind of go easier with Samantha
Speaker 2: and Chad. If they get it bad, I go easier
Speaker 2: with you. Then I throw Sear in the mix and
Speaker 2: she gets it.
Speaker 7: Imagine going out the night before and then waking.
Speaker 2: Up to that because I do it because I love
Speaker 2: you guys, and I just want you all to realize
Speaker 2: you're young and that you don't know as much as me,
Speaker 2: and I just want you to be really good human beings.
Speaker 2: That's what really comes down to cool absolutely. I care
Speaker 2: about raising good human beings and Nelson falls with that category. Okay,
Speaker 2: now that we're past that, and yes that's our Sunday
Speaker 2: mornings more often than less. So go ahead, keep going
Speaker 2: with you what you're talking about. So what is your
Speaker 2: future for this company? And I know I've asked you
Speaker 2: hold on, I know I'll asked you, come on else
Speaker 2: if it's worth a couple of billion, never gonna sell.
Speaker 2: And you keep telling me no, I will, I will
Speaker 2: not sell nothing, no, not, Well then you're not in
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to say like I'll let go of
Speaker 5: some stock. Of course, you know, bring in some cash,
Speaker 5: but no, I'm not gonna I'm not going to sell.
Speaker 5: Like this is this is truly my passion. Like I
Speaker 5: can work on anything chatter related for hours and hours
Speaker 5: on end without going to bed. I mean, you've been
Speaker 5: on some calls and be like two two three the boarding.
Speaker 2: One morning you want to get on calls my phone
Speaker 2: stack and then I'll be in a room. Right, let's say,
Speaker 2: go start a room or go do this and go
Speaker 2: do this And he's like, Mama, get out of that room.
Speaker 2: Now I need to talk to you, dude. I'm in
Speaker 2: the room. I'm not leaving the room. Get so by
Speaker 2: the time you get out the room now it's one
Speaker 2: third in the morning, and he wants to have a
Speaker 2: three hour conversation because he's going to stay up to
Speaker 2: talk to London.
Speaker 7: Where do you think he learned that from me?
Speaker 3: That's a good question.
Speaker 2: I like that, Sammy. What you always say, money doesn't sleep.
Speaker 5: No, but no, but seriously, I don't see myself selling
Speaker 5: this company, and I.
Speaker 3: Truly believe in it. Never say never, No, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to.
Speaker 5: I truly believe, I act, truly believe this will be
Speaker 5: This will be the next evolution of social media, point
Speaker 5: blank period. Connecting with people with your voice of course,
Speaker 5: having all the video components that everyone's used to and
Speaker 5: bridging both of those things together. I think that will
Speaker 5: change social media, point blank period. And there's definitely a
Speaker 5: space for it, and we will be the front runners
Speaker 5: of that space.
Speaker 2: And please let everybody know that you've been self funding
Speaker 2: this from day one, and this is very expensive to sell.
Speaker 2: Fun you got no VC guys behind you right now,
Speaker 2: you have no investors behind you right now, zero zero checks.
Speaker 2: So he are twenty years old. It's a lot of
Speaker 2: mental stress, you're working around the clock, had a baby,
Speaker 2: right is there ever? And the greatest thing about Nelson
Speaker 2: is I say it all the time. He's got a
Speaker 2: heart and in life that's all you need, buddy, is
Speaker 2: a heart.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I know when you get sense of I know, look
Speaker 2: at competitors gonna come at you. People are gonna hate
Speaker 2: on you. Welcome to the real world of success. Period.
Speaker 2: But you know what, what people don't understand and they'll
Speaker 2: never understand the hard work, tenacity, the nights that you
Speaker 2: go to sleep alone in your own head and you're thinking,
Speaker 2: you're thinking, you might have a wife next to you
Speaker 2: to talk to, but you're still alone in your own brain.
Speaker 2: And then one day you're gonna wake up and everything
Speaker 2: I've told you and for the last four years, it'll
Speaker 2: resonate little by little by little. Right, So just stay
Speaker 2: with this saying that my father said to me when
Speaker 2: I was twenty years old, exactly your age. Actually, come
Speaker 2: to think of it, Cindy, when they stop talking about you,
Speaker 2: you're a nobody. So until then you're a somebody. So
Speaker 2: you got to learn to take those hits and we
Speaker 2: got to learn to brush it off. Right. Sometimes I
Speaker 2: personality is really hard. As you saw me on a
Speaker 2: group text of that guy going after his jugular and
Speaker 2: you came in and you were like, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 2: what's going on here? Right? It's usually any of that
Speaker 2: comes in right behind me. Right. So he handled it
Speaker 2: really well and I didn't handle it well at all.
Speaker 2: So but that's just what it is. People that care
Speaker 2: about your app, people that care about you are going
Speaker 2: to stay supportive. People that jealous of you and unkind
Speaker 2: let the algorithm drop them down to it. They need
Speaker 2: to be dropped down, superiod. That's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Good content, good content providers. People that are rocking it,
Speaker 2: they're going to build their rooms, and people that aren't
Speaker 2: are not going to build. So just touch upon that.
Speaker 2: But I just want you to know you're twenty years old.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's hard to take the hits out there at
Speaker 2: twenty eight.
Speaker 5: No, absolutely, absolutely, And you know, I mean this isn't
Speaker 5: something that I've been used to like my whole life,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean earlier when I was a kid,
Speaker 5: I mean I was an introvert. I didn't become an
Speaker 5: extrovert until you know, i'd be a content creator.
Speaker 7: I didn't know all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on the.
Speaker 5: Other platform, I truly was. I was an introvert, you know,
Speaker 5: and you know, get into my extrovert phase and creating
Speaker 5: all this content with thousands and thousands of people, and
Speaker 5: then and then you start getting the hits, right, you know,
Speaker 5: people saying things about you, people coming after you.
Speaker 3: People discrediting you.
Speaker 5: You start seeing that side of things which I never
Speaker 5: thought about before.
Speaker 3: And it's it's just a learning process for me.
Speaker 5: Right. Every time I go through something like that, it
Speaker 5: it makes me tougher and the next time I go
Speaker 5: through something similar, just you know, not as effective as
Speaker 5: I was initially.
Speaker 2: But if I had to give you, I'll give you
Speaker 2: one to ten from you being a ten ultrasense of
Speaker 2: you're now a seven, we're going to get you to
Speaker 2: or three. That's the college.
Speaker 5: I agree with that. I agree with that. I'll say
Speaker 5: I was a ten maybe two years ago, I was
Speaker 5: a ten. Now I'm like a seven. I agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to get down too. But you know,
Speaker 2: we brought you up the other day because we're talking
Speaker 2: about things parents say to their kids. Yeah, to make
Speaker 2: them be hungry, you know, and have a burning desire
Speaker 2: to be successful.
Speaker 7: A little bit scary right, And what is it, Sam,
Speaker 7: to scare your kid a little bit?
Speaker 2: Scare your kid a little bit, you know, not beat
Speaker 2: them up? But so I asked it yesterday. So Sam
Speaker 2: said to a friend of Oz, what made you do this?
Speaker 2: He said, he's thirty and he's opening up his eighth
Speaker 2: company right now is franchise. Sam said, what made you
Speaker 2: be this successful at thirty years old? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: He said, I don't know. My father's all tell me
Speaker 2: he's going to break my fingers and run me over.
Speaker 2: But the point was.
Speaker 7: Why did I have to break my fingers first and
Speaker 7: then run me over?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 2: Did he just run me over? Was he going to
Speaker 2: break my fingers for? And then we said, well, we
Speaker 2: have a friend that his parents use to tell him,
Speaker 2: if you don't get an education, Niger, you're going to
Speaker 2: go work at McDonald's, right and seam over right. And
Speaker 2: I used to tell Sammy, I'm dropping you off from
Speaker 2: Broadway Review and you're going to get a job at okay,
Speaker 2: and it really not such a great deia, right.
Speaker 7: So I'm going to get you a job there, leave
Speaker 7: you there and you figure out how to get home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Okay, how to get back home to you know,
Speaker 2: pretty Newton, Massachusetts over there chest un hind insight.
Speaker 7: I don't know why I believed her, because she didn't
Speaker 7: even let me like take the tyr drive a car
Speaker 7: without talking to her every which way.
Speaker 2: But you do believe, so in your brain, you're like,
Speaker 2: in Nigeria, I'm gonna get out here again education and
Speaker 2: I'm not ever gonna work for McDonald's.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: That was just that everybody's got a scary thought. We
Speaker 2: should all put those things into our kids. We're going
Speaker 2: to do. I don't know we're gonna send you?
Speaker 7: What was your plan?
Speaker 2: And then I asked, I asked, Nelson, what are you
Speaker 2: gonna tell your kids one day, because I'm gonna bring
Speaker 2: them to Nigeria. What are you say?
Speaker 5: They're gonna go see their great grandma she's still.
Speaker 3: There by the way, yeah grandma.
Speaker 2: Oh no, your great grandmother? Right, Okay, but but your
Speaker 2: parents go back there and you say, what send them
Speaker 2: to Nigeria? They have no a C what else?
Speaker 5: Listen, it's it's it's it's a it's a harder life,
Speaker 5: and I feel like it makes you tougher, right, having
Speaker 5: that experience.
Speaker 3: Okay, right, go ahead.
Speaker 2: The way I'm going with this is that young kids
Speaker 2: not kids' kids. But you have an area for younger kids.
Speaker 2: But when you stop bringing on eighteen nineteen year olds.
Speaker 2: Christina is great, right, she's only now. She's been on
Speaker 2: social media for four years. She's learned so much, so
Speaker 2: much on there, and she had a great mentor. But
Speaker 2: we need younger people to come in and listen to
Speaker 2: the older people to grab those values. That's what you did, Nelson,
Speaker 2: in the last four or five years. You've been hanging
Speaker 2: out with people older and wiser and listening. There in
Speaker 2: lies the difference of most people. When you start on
Speaker 2: the other app. We won't use the word you are
Speaker 2: only twenty four years old. Period. Oh wow, you're twenty four.
Speaker 2: But we're going to break call that thought. I'm sitty
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Speaker 1: I don't need no negative run high frequency.
Speaker 5: I'm talking.
Speaker 2: And welcome back to Cindy Stumbo Toughest Nails on WBZ
Speaker 2: News Radio, and I'm Cindy.
Speaker 7: I'm Samantha, and I'm Nelson Pecker.
Speaker 2: Okay, take it from there. I got a fan that's
Speaker 2: outside that they can let them and tell them to
Speaker 2: let her tell let her in for a picture. Please.
Speaker 5: You have a fan outside your studio right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's related to somebody in the studio. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this happens a lot. Don't want to tell you about.
Speaker 2: But she's a young girl. So Andrew let her in
Speaker 2: to grab a picture while you guys are talking, I'm
Speaker 2: multitask here. Okay, go ahead. Do you want me asking
Speaker 2: now the question or you want to take it from here, Nelson,
Speaker 2: because every time you're in my studio, you feel like
Speaker 2: was the guy that walked by I would blonde here.
Speaker 2: Andrew's a guy went that way. He's got a girl.
Speaker 2: He wants to bring it. Go ahead, I'm doing three
Speaker 2: things that once. Dude, I know men can't do this,
Speaker 2: but women can. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Is this the last scene?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in the last scene of your movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're in the last episode. Good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, guys, very simply listen, man chatter social,
Speaker 5: I mean, everything that we've talked about, right, and if
Speaker 5: it's if there's anything that interests you, go check it
Speaker 5: out right, go to the app store, go to the
Speaker 5: play store.
Speaker 2: Well, let's explain that to people. Some people don't understand that.
Speaker 2: How do they get in?
Speaker 5: Okay, so you're gonna need an invite? Okay, but fear not.
Speaker 5: All you need to do download Chatter Social from the
Speaker 5: app or the play store and just message us on
Speaker 5: Twitter or Instagram if you need an invite and you
Speaker 5: don't have one, I'm gonna give Cindy a bunch of
Speaker 5: invites to give out.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm in thirty Okay, I'm in thirty two states. Right,
Speaker 2: you understand that. Can't there be a thing in there
Speaker 2: called Cindy.
Speaker 3: Called Ross Ross Ross Fross will hook come up?
Speaker 2: Oh my producer, the producers, I don't know two d
Speaker 2: chows out of here. This is gonna be an easier
Speaker 2: like I'm friends with Cindy. Heard you on the radio.
Speaker 2: Bah bah bah, there's gonna be something. And by the way,
Speaker 2: you need to know where your people coming in from.
Speaker 2: Did you come from Google, did you come from this?
Speaker 2: Did you come from that? Did you come from Twitter?
Speaker 2: You should actually know we're new people coming in from
Speaker 2: so you need to set that up somehow.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely, but yeah, guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can download it any of the stores and
Speaker 5: to get an invite. If you don't know anyone that's
Speaker 5: in the app, just messages on Instagram and Google at
Speaker 5: Chatter underscore us and somebody will be able to get
Speaker 5: you an invite. But if you want to jump on
Speaker 5: there now and have conversations with me and a bunch
Speaker 5: of other people like Cindy on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nightly, I'm nightly. I'm not doing nightly. I'm too
Speaker 2: busy running three hundred guys during the day.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, But then it depends, right, because you know
Speaker 5: you have that room that you like to visit every night,
Speaker 5: you know that debate the news, you know, Jonathan Bang
Speaker 5: and stuff.
Speaker 2: So I have my favorite rooms. We all have our
Speaker 2: favorite rooms.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I like to debate Jonathan because I like to like
Speaker 2: really go at him high and he goes like like,
Speaker 2: but again, at the end of the day we are friends.
Speaker 2: And then I like my Freddie room and I like
Speaker 2: my Porscha Bell's room. I like my rooms. There certain
Speaker 2: rooms I go to. I love chat. So there's rooms
Speaker 2: that I will go to that I know I'm comfortable
Speaker 2: and I like the people in them, and Again, that's
Speaker 2: figuring out where you have like minded people with you, right,
Speaker 2: So when you have that, like Ramona's room, I used
Speaker 2: to love her on the other app, right, I don't
Speaker 2: see Ramona doing as much, so she's like in the
Speaker 2: middle of like transferring over from the other app to
Speaker 2: this app. But yeah, when you're with like minded people
Speaker 2: that you like, I know your generation calls it mindset.
Speaker 2: What's those two words I really hate?
Speaker 7: Manifest Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Let me I'm manifesting right now. I'm twenty two years old. Again,
Speaker 2: I'm younger than Nelson. Did it happen?
Speaker 7: It's kind of like what my networking does, but you've
Speaker 7: done it on a larger scale, right, So you all
Speaker 7: genuinely care about each other and want to help each other.
Speaker 2: Definitely, there's a lot of us that actually really do
Speaker 2: care about each other. Like yesterday, I'm telling Sammy, you
Speaker 2: need to send five hundred dollars to Reel. She's oh,
Speaker 2: I tried, okay, And then Ian's texting me her information
Speaker 2: and sam can't find it. And Ian is in the
Speaker 2: whole Harry Kane nightmare over there, right, So she needs donations.
Speaker 2: But that's what happens. You get to know people on there,
Speaker 2: and you want to help them. She's stuck, she's stranded,
Speaker 2: She's trying to get out. Ian's sending me the information.
Speaker 2: Sammy's yelling a scream and I can't find this person. Well,
Speaker 2: what do you want me to do? She goes by
Speaker 2: reel real what I don't know?
Speaker 7: And I screen recorded, I typed it every which way.
Speaker 2: And then Ian's sending me messages. Okay, Samila's gonna shoot
Speaker 2: both of us, right like, you can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is, Nelson, how many people on
Speaker 2: the other app do you think you, all of us
Speaker 2: throughout the years gave away in money to help people.
Speaker 2: Everybody gets that. By the way, God, I can't remember.
Speaker 5: I could talk about the biggest one. The biggest one
Speaker 5: ever did this was.
Speaker 3: A lady, Shanquilla Robinson.
Speaker 5: I believe, a young lady. She got killed in Mexico
Speaker 5: and we all happen to be in a room where
Speaker 5: we're running our daily, our nightly show. And I think
Speaker 5: somebody came up on a stage and brought it up
Speaker 5: or something, and in that room live. I mean, we
Speaker 5: literally all contributed to the gofundmeate. And I think at
Speaker 5: thirty minutes, we raised over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: And I think that was the day that Cindy came in.
Speaker 5: I made you put in like what eight thousand.
Speaker 2: And I got the phone call in Florida, Hey, need
Speaker 2: you get in this room. I'm like, I'm get in
Speaker 2: this room. Okay, jump in the room. Cost me eight
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to jump into a room, right, can make it?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Because it's like, I mean that right there that night,
Speaker 5: that night showed me the power of this space.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, just imagine that a thousand people that
Speaker 3: the world, that was all over the world. But that
Speaker 3: was the biggest together.
Speaker 2: Okay, but that might have been the biggest and one
Speaker 2: sum lump sum. But how many seven nights before Christmas?
Speaker 2: Twelve nights before Christmas we gave away money this that
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been hundreds of thousand dollars and no
Speaker 2: one even recognized that. No one even took on the
Speaker 2: other app said hey, thank you. The families did, but
Speaker 2: the people that own that app they never once thank
Speaker 2: you for that, which to me is insane. Okay, most
Speaker 2: people that raise one hundred and fifty thousand for something
Speaker 2: they want public you know, oh the newspapers to pick
Speaker 2: it up. We just did it. To do it. No,
Speaker 2: you got like little credit for that, but you did it.
Speaker 2: You weren't even looking for the credit. Most people that
Speaker 2: donate they want the limelight after they donate or do
Speaker 2: something like that. And again, I mean, we've helped a
Speaker 2: lot of people after we could confirm that they need
Speaker 2: the help we did. This was years Nelson doing this.
Speaker 2: I think you're why can't I remember better than you?
Speaker 2: That's a problem.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of mean, come on, it's a lot
Speaker 5: of nights, yeah, and it's a lot of memories.
Speaker 2: Did a lot of last minute gofunding accounts a lot.
Speaker 2: Ask Jonathan, he'll remember he can remember everything absolutely absolutely. Again,
Speaker 2: the power of social audio the power because if we
Speaker 2: didn't hear Reel's voice and real time and she'd just
Speaker 2: be another whatever. But then real time talking face to face,
Speaker 2: you get to know people. Now you've got that empathy
Speaker 2: to want to help people, right, and everybody falls on
Speaker 2: some type of hard times and there'll always be the
Speaker 2: givers out there and they'll always be the takers. You're
Speaker 2: never gonna stop. And there are people that even people
Speaker 2: if you remember that night, they were giving five dollars
Speaker 2: ten dollars, right, because they could give what they could
Speaker 2: afford to give. Period. Doesn't make my eight thousand any
Speaker 2: different than somebody gives ten dollars. They're giving what they
Speaker 2: can give, and that's what makes it great. Had some
Speaker 2: really great communities.
Speaker 5: By the way, again, it's fostering authentic connections, right, And
Speaker 5: the only way you could do that is with the
Speaker 5: most authentic tool. Each of us, as human beings, possess
Speaker 5: our voices, right, that's literally the most authentic tool we have,
Speaker 5: you know. And yeah, just so many amazing things have happened,
Speaker 5: and so many more amazing things will happen in the
Speaker 5: future as we continue to grow this platform, Chatter social,
Speaker 5: so many many many more memories will be made, will
Speaker 5: be created, and so many more friendships, so many more relationships, right,
Speaker 5: And yeah, I'm here for it.
Speaker 2: And absolutely I heard like a couple weeks ago, I
Speaker 2: think I heard it from Freddy. He said Sammy came
Speaker 2: into an astrology room with something and she woke it
Speaker 2: up like she was like, did you enjoy that room? Sammy?
Speaker 2: Of course, because you like astrology, I do, right, chat,
Speaker 2: he should be absolutely doing golf rooms on Chatter absolutely
Speaker 2: on thousand percent. Kid's amateur pro. There's no one on
Speaker 2: there doing anything with golf. And Sammy hr likes her.
Speaker 2: You know, real estate obviously that she does, but her
Speaker 2: hobby is astrology, so people love that, you know. And
Speaker 2: she's like, I go to sleep at nine o'clock. I
Speaker 2: got to wake up. I gotta be at hot yoga
Speaker 2: at four o'clock in the morning. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: She's so set in the way.
Speaker 5: Okay, So that's why she doesn't join us at night.
Speaker 5: She goes to sleep at nine o'clock.
Speaker 7: Because if I, if I miss my will to fall asleep,
Speaker 7: then my heart's racing and I'm like, it's like another
Speaker 7: exercise for me, and then I can't sleep because she runs.
Speaker 2: Her life off that oop whoop, whoop. There it goes, whoop,
Speaker 2: there it goes. Anything else you want to tell us
Speaker 2: in twenty seconds before you go for break that you love.
Speaker 5: Ladies, gentleman, download Chatter, Social app store, Place Door.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to say that last fifty seconds.
Speaker 5: I thought you said it was fifty seconds.
Speaker 2: Fifty seconds, No, no, no, now you just go Now you
Speaker 2: just ate your time up. Now you gonna go for
Speaker 2: breaking you back. You're listening to City Stumpo.
Speaker 7: And Manleson on w b ZERS.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back on the move and it's a
Speaker 2: City Stumpo Toughest Nails. I like to thank Nelson Pega
Speaker 2: for coming on the show. Nelson, you got forty seconds
Speaker 2: and leave me five seconds to get out.
Speaker 5: No, yes, go ahead, Gallo Chatter social as a p
Speaker 5: get an invite either tag me Cindy Chatter messages on Instagram.
Speaker 5: Twitter will be able to get you an invite. Yeah,
Speaker 5: jump jump on chatter, especially if you're going to meet
Speaker 5: and connect and hang out with people like us on
Speaker 5: a daily, nightly, weekly, whatever basis. Right, it's a brand
Speaker 5: new experience and yeah, I'm pretty sure you guys will
Speaker 5: be amazed with what you find.
Speaker 2: I love you, I love you too, Ma, Sabe, Sam
Speaker 2: May Figure, everybody have a great, safe weekend and we'll
Speaker 2: see you next week. This is Cindy Stumpo Toughest Nails
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