WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.960 For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female 2 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:06.599 homebuilder with a passion for design, a mastery of detail, 3 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:09.640 and a commitment to her crack. With daughter Samantha Stumpo 4 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:11.400 by her side, I don't need my whole. 5 00:00:11.199 --> 00:00:12.960 Family on a date with me. That's a good note. 6 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:13.919 It's goddamn weird. 7 00:00:14.039 --> 00:00:14.240 See. 8 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:18.120 Stumpo Development is the only second generation female construction company 9 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:18.800 in the country. 10 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:23.640 You're crazy, You're a wacko, You're insane. I mean, it just. 11 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:24.519 Doesn't end together. 12 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:28.399 Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world of construction, 13 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:31.440 real estate, development, design and more. 14 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:32.200 Unpredictable. 15 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:33.920 Every time I think I know what you want, you'd 16 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:34.520 switch it out. 17 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:36.159 But that's what makes your houses. 18 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:36.359 All your day. 19 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:39.439 Discuss anything that happens between the roof and the foundation. 20 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:42.640 Nothing is off limits. You truly do care about everybody. 21 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:44.280 She can yell at, you can scream, but when you 22 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:46.880 get her alone, she's the best person on the planet. 23 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:56.560 Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails. 24 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:56.399 And welcome to Cindy Stumpbo Tough as Nails on WBZ 25 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:59.920 News Radio and I'm in the studio with who Samantha 26 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:02.880 and who's in the studio coming through on whatever this 27 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:07.439 is called all this technology crap? Brother Nelson, do you 28 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:08.079 have a less name? 29 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:08.760 Oh? 30 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:12.560 Okay, you know your name sounds like a car. 31 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:13.599 It sounds like car. 32 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:16.959 What kind of car? It can only it can only 33 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:19.239 be three options though, so Rose Royce, the Lamborghini, and 34 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:20.280 the belly which one. 35 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:20.840 We don't get either. 36 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:21.760 It can be like. 37 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:26.480 Sounds it sounds like a car out of Nigeria, right, 38 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:28.159 you know what it kind. 39 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:29.599 Of does, right, like a Pega. 40 00:01:29.519 --> 00:01:36.079 Yeah, coming out of Nigeria. Okay, listen, what are we 41 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:37.000 talking about right now? 42 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:40.200 We're talking about chatter. We're talking about chatter social? 43 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:43.000 What is chatter social? You know, there's a whole country 44 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:46.879 out there that does not understand social audio. You do 45 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:49.799 you understand that? I think there's a plane that flies 46 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:55.680 around Texas and maybe in Florida. Otherwise Boston and many 47 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:57.680 of the states don't even know what social audio is. 48 00:01:58.000 --> 00:01:59.480 So you're here to educate them. 49 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.599 So one hundercent social audio. 50 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:08.319 Well, we're we're creating We're creating a platform that that 51 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:12.599 we call social audio visual right real time experiences with 52 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:17.080 both audio and visual and essentially using that as a 53 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:21.680 way to make social networking more social, right, I mean 54 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:24.080 you think about like your experiences on Instagram or Twitter. 55 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:27.280 You know, you're liking pictures or you're retweeting tweets. You're 56 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:29.479 not necessarily getting to connect with people. You're not necessarily 57 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:31.719 getting to know people understand people. 58 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:33.719 So I can kind of break it down a little bit. 59 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:37.120 So when I want to debate somebody in politics or whatever, 60 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:40.120 we can go live together on a screen and actually 61 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:42.240 look at each other in the eyes and go at 62 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:45.719 it instead of looking like trolls going at it on 63 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:49.479 a Twitter feed or an Instagram right, Like, I get 64 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:51.000 to look you in the eyes. You get to look 65 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:53.199 me in the eyes, which is I think personally that's 66 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:56.000 the fun part. But before we get more into social audio, 67 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:59.680 explain to the listeners who you are, how this started, 68 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:03.199 Who's the CEO, who's the founder? Bring us to light here? 69 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:07.280 Well, you know Nelson and Pega. I'm twenty eight years old, 70 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:11.560 started off as a real estate investor. About eight years 71 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:13.599 ago when I was twenty, I think. 72 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:20.120 Or your baby ahead, I can't even Matthew. 73 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:26.240 Four years ago called Clubhouse, and this was a platform 74 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:27.360 that essentially. 75 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:30.159 Pushed the rise of social. 76 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:33.400 Audio, and on this platform, I ended up just falling 77 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:36.199 in love with the concept of using your voice to 78 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:39.879 connect with people, using your voice to market your product, right, 79 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:44.840 using your voice to be more social. Right, and you know, a. 80 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:49.319 Few months into but I couldn't well, you couldn't through COVID, 81 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:53.960 right because everybody was stranded. So that was a perfect launch, 82 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:57.039 perfect time for them, because I don't know. I worked 83 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:01.120 every day. We're essential you worked every day. I still 84 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:05.800 see social audio for me. For me, if I don't 85 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:08.759 want to run out or I can't sleep at midnight, 86 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:11.240 let's say and raise sound asleep to do He's off 87 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:14.080 in neving. I can always jump into a room and 88 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:16.800 hang out a bunch of people. I might like them, 89 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:19.040 I might not like them. I might debate them. I 90 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:21.439 might it might be a great conversation. It could be 91 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:23.720 six women in a room together and we have the 92 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:26.199 most awesome conversation. It could be three hundred people in 93 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:28.839 a room together. It could be a thousand people. It 94 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:32.240 doesn't matter. It's like you're never alone, if that makes 95 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:34.680 any sense. Like, if you don't want to be alone, 96 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:37.240 you don't have to be loan. You can be with 97 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:39.879 your kids, your husband and your wife, blah blah blah, 98 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:42.600 and sometimes you just need a break. And I just 99 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:46.399 find it's another way of Sometimes I always say this, 100 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:49.920 it's easier to talk to strangers than talk to people 101 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:53.040 that you know in your everyday life, which is very weird. 102 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:55.360 That's how therapists make money. 103 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:56.800 Okay, Well, then. 104 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:01.319 She's absolutely correct though. It's like again, and it's something new, 105 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:04.240 it's something fresh, and majority of people on a planet 106 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:06.560 don't know about it, right, I mean, just imagine how 107 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:09.160 many people are listening to us right now in their cars, 108 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:10.319 right on a radio station. 109 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:11.959 Well, think of. 110 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:15.279 You being able to do that and being able to pause, 111 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.399 raise your hand and join this conversation in real time 112 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:21.600 as opposed to just listen. Right. 113 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:23.600 Think about watching. 114 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:26.000 Your favorite podcast like we all do on YouTube, or 115 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:30.879 watching our favorite streamers or just gamers or whatever, and 116 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:35.319 being able to again in real time interact with both 117 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:38.720 your voice and the option of going on camera. Right. 118 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:44.040 It takes social experiences to the next level and allows 119 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:46.399 for true connection. Right, Like you think about like the 120 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:48.560 friends of my life right now, all my best friends 121 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:53.000 I met from social audio, Jonathan Baning, Cindy Stumpo. I mean, 122 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:55.720 the list goes on and on and on social audio, right, 123 00:05:55.720 --> 00:06:00.279 because again we're able to use the most authentic take 124 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:04.360 part of our selves as human beings, our voices, to 125 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:06.000 really get to know one another. 126 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:09.439 Right, and yeah, I mean it's unlike anything I've. 127 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:12.079 Ever seen in the world. Right, and chatter is building 128 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:15.079 on top of that framework and adding it to the 129 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:20.160 various elements of social media that we're currently used to today, right, podcasting, gaming, 130 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:25.399 short form videos, right, just all those various elements that 131 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:28.160 were already used to Okay, so just throwing that social 132 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:29.160 audio compona. 133 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:31.560 I still want to bring you back twenty eight years old. 134 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:35.079 You decided. I think I know how it went. The 135 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:37.079 other app will call it. We don't have to give 136 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:40.000 them any advertising the other app. Right, It's like when 137 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:42.079 I'm on I can't hold up this because I'm giving 138 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:45.639 them a free advertising. Anyways, with that being said, you 139 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:50.600 learned how to be a great, great moderator. Right. No 140 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:52.759 one can moderate the way you can. And I've been 141 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:54.959 in a ton of rooms. No one can live up 142 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:57.839 a crowd. You can dismantle people. You bring them up. 143 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:00.240 You're throwing them all over the place like rag dolls. Right, 144 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:04.360 But that's what makes it fun. So all of a sudden, 145 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:08.560 everybody's followers got removed. That was the start of it, 146 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:10.360 and you were like, We're like, well, well, what's going 147 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:14.079 on here. Everybody built up fifty sixty seventy thousand followers, boom, 148 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:17.720 all taken away. They changed their whole concept, and you said, 149 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:19.720 I'm going to go out, I'm going to do this, 150 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:22.399 I'm going to do this better than them. And that's 151 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:23.240 how it actually. 152 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:26.639 Started, right absolutely, so absolutely. 153 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:30.519 As a guy that's just not getting into the tech world, 154 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:34.079 the difference is you're a guy that's actually been using 155 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:38.120 this app close to five years now. You see everything. 156 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.560 You see what people like, you see what people don't like. 157 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:45.879 You have learned actually from the outside in instead of 158 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:50.079 learning from the inside out. Right, So that's what makes 159 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.680 you good at what you're building here, because you know 160 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:59.439 what people want and you know what people don't want. Heck, guys, 161 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:04.000 we don't understand. They don't understand what the people looking 162 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:05.800 for you do. And I think that's going to be 163 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:09.120 the game changer here that you went from the outside 164 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:12.160 in and not the inside out as form in this company. 165 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:15.600 Absolutely and you know, I can say the same thing 166 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:19.279 for everyone on our team as well, right, all of us, 167 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:22.399 all of us. I mean, think about it, our cto Heraine. 168 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:27.079 I mean, he's been a million Marathon community member for years. Right, 169 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:29.800 he was among one of the first private beta testers 170 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:33.120 on Chatter. Right. You look at Kim Green, our marketing director. 171 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:35.720 She's been a million Marathon member for a long time, 172 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:37.559 even through to when. 173 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:40.039 We migrated over to Twitter. You look at the whole team. 174 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:43.440 You're talking about a team of individuals that are power 175 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:48.440 social audio users and have identified all the various flaws 176 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:51.120 in regards to how everyone else has done it. And 177 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:55.480 we're coming at this from that user perspective, right, that 178 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:59.720 perspective of individuals that use an application every single day 179 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:02.399 and know everything there is to know about it, right, 180 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:06.000 And it's the first time it's ever been done right, 181 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:09.080 users coming together to build out a product the right 182 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.000 way for the masses. And Yeah, I think I think. 183 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:14.600 I think the history books are gonna. 184 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:17.639 All that thought, all that thought, we gonna go to break. Okay, 185 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:20.559 you listen to Cindy Stubbow Toughest Nails on WBZ. We'll 186 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:21.159 be right back. 187 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:24.679 Sponsored by floor in Decor, National Lumber and Village Bank. 188 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:34.240 Let's get down, Let's get down to business. Give you 189 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:37.799 one more night, one more night to get this. We've 190 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:42.559 had a million million nights just like this. So let's 191 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:43.120 get down. 192 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:46.200 Let's get down and welcome back to Sidney Stubbo Toughest 193 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:49.639 Nails on WBZ, and I'm in the studio to night 194 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:50.679 with Samantha and. 195 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.559 Nel your actual child and your adopted child. 196 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:56.679 Oh my god, I got like, come on man, I 197 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:59.639 got shy, I got kid, I got Freddy. I don't 198 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:02.240 know and all I know, I'm a psychiatrist over there, 199 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:06.840 but I personally in the last close to it will 200 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:08.879 be four years November. I've made a lot of great 201 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:11.879 friends on there. I really have like women that I 202 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:16.279 talked to, guys I talked to as friends. But there's 203 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:19.279 Yvonne on there, There's ann on there. I mean, there's 204 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:24.440 so many I can keep naming. Danielle oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 205 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:27.840 No like that. I'll call and talk to them as women, 206 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:34.440 right that I would never have known Jonathan Daphney. I mean, 207 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:37.320 we've all got together in Florida, We've all socialized. I 208 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:41.720 mean it's a different experience, and the demographics of us 209 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:44.879 all age differently, and we just all grove together. This 210 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:47.399 is the crazy part. Right, you're twenty eight, you're younger 211 00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:52.320 than Chad, so, but you're hanging out with forty year olds, 212 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:54.960 fifty year olds and sixty year olds. Right, So it's 213 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:58.919 just a different It's nothing like I've ever seen before. 214 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:01.120 I never thought that would exist, And now I thought, 215 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:04.799 I'm going to go meet people in Florida that I 216 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:07.759 don't know, but I that they're on my Instagram or 217 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.120 they're on my you know, Twitter, or they're on my LinkedIn. Right, Well, 218 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:12.759 LinkedIn's a little different because it's business. 219 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:14.799 But I've heard you say time and time again, how 220 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:15.639 much you want. 221 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:17.879 To go into your mic. You hear about your micro 222 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:18.559 I have. 223 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.799 To see myself and do this. I've heard you save 224 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:23.279 time and time again. How much you learn from this app? 225 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:27.200 Thousand percent? You learn human nature. That's what I've learned. Right, 226 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:29.879 I'm not going to learn a lot about my business, 227 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:34.399 let's say with real estate guys, right, but I learned 228 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:37.919 such more important things. I learned human nature. I learned 229 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:41.159 how to work around multiple personalities in a room. Nelson, 230 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:43.679 you're running rooms with thousands of people a million marathon, 231 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:46.799 mean you know now you're going to learn how to 232 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:49.919 groove with people. And here's the big one. If you 233 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:52.799 don't know how to groove with people on social audio, 234 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:54.440 how are you going to do it in the real world. 235 00:11:55.240 --> 00:11:57.519 So it's a great it's a great learning experience to 236 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:01.440 come on, especially for the younger generation that's a little 237 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:04.240 shy or whatever. If you can come on there and 238 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:07.159 start to talk to people, and whether it's debating or 239 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:10.399 whether it's a casual conversation, it starts to break you 240 00:12:10.399 --> 00:12:12.600 out of your shell. Because if you can't do it 241 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:14.720 on there, you can't do it in real life. That's 242 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:17.559 my feeling. So I think it's a really good stepping stool, 243 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:22.080 a stepping stone for younger people to get more comfortable 244 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:23.159 with public speaking. Too. 245 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:25.559 I think it makes people you. 246 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:28.279 Got a peepe you gotta do people, and it's gotta 247 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:30.000 do peep. I think, Okay, what are we three? 248 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:33.960 Naturally vulnerable and want to be vulnerable, whereas most people 249 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:36.240 in the real world don't like to be vulnerable like that. 250 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:38.240 So you think the app makes people a little bit 251 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:38.879 more vulnerable. 252 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:40.799 Yeah, Like how many times you said, like I've had 253 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:42.000 a bad day when I come on the app and 254 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:42.799 talk about that. 255 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:45.960 Yeah, absolutely, So it gives me my moment after work 256 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:48.279 an eighteen hour a day, come home, have dinner with Ray, 257 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.120 spend some time with Ray. And you know my time 258 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:52.919 is like nine nine thirty to come on, right. 259 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:55.279 But it only takes you to say that for everybody 260 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:57.120 else that if they're feeling that, to say that. 261 00:12:57.039 --> 00:13:01.240 Too, correct, So they're not alone, right, So everybody, Look, 262 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:04.320 that's how I see social audio is it's all walks 263 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:07.159 of life, right. We all come from different countries that 264 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:11.120 come on there, we all have different background of religion, race, 265 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:14.279 and then you're going to end up with your own 266 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:17.759 like minded people. You're not going to you know, you 267 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:19.799 have a thing called an algorithm and you're in beta 268 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:22.600 testing right now. So take that from there. Let's talk 269 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:27.039 about the beta testing and the algorithm and explain to 270 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:30.080 people like if there's certain rooms you don't want to see, 271 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:31.879 you will not be seeing those rooms. 272 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:37.480 No, absolutely, I mean just everything Cindy said is just factual, right, 273 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:43.000 And I mean you usually call you think about like 274 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:46.039 the rinds of the internet before before the Internet, where 275 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:47.879 you going to network with people? Where are you going 276 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:50.799 to meet people? Right? It's I mean you don't have 277 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:51.600 the Internet, right, so. 278 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:54.080 You're limited to your. 279 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:56.519 An immediate ecosystem. I think someone's got to go. You're 280 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:59.720 you're limited to your immediate network of people that you 281 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:01.039 meet on a day. 282 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:02.080 To day or whatever the case may be. 283 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:07.200 The Internet broadens that horizon, right, Chatter, social audio, visual, 284 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:10.720 I mean expands it significantly. And now it's like, you know, 285 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:13.399 going to the bar to talk to twenty people, but 286 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:15.399 it's like now you're talking to twenty people in different 287 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:18.799 parts of the world, right, who have similar likes and 288 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:22.200 interest with you. You're a finance guy, is a finance person. 289 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.759 I'm in Boston, this one's in La that. 290 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:26.720 One's in Dubai, blah blah blah. 291 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:29.480 And these people meet, they meet in real life, they 292 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:31.639 do business with each other. I mean, I was just 293 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:34.399 looking on Donovan's Instagram the other day. Him and Adam 294 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:37.240 Elish are now boyfriend girlfriend. He lives in DC, she 295 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:40.000 lives in Toronto. They met on chatter. Now he was 296 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:43.679 in Toronto last weekend, right, Like this stuff is crazy again. 297 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:49.440 Real time authentic connections on the Internet can only be. 298 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:52.519 Done on social audio, point blank period. 299 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.200 Right. You cannot connect with anybody by liking their photos. 300 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:59.080 Those two would not be boyfriend girlfriend by liking their 301 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:00.720 photos commenting, oh you look hot. 302 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:03.360 It just doesn't work like that, you know. 303 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:05.600 So it's no, okay, no, we think it's some creepy 304 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:08.159 dude that's saying you look cut right, So that don't 305 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:08.440 like that? 306 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:12.200 Right on, well, on shatter. If the person's creepy, first 307 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:13.799 of all, they're going to say out creepy. Second of all, 308 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:14.159 they can. 309 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:16.039 Go on camera and then they're gonna look creepy, and 310 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:18.720 then we'll figure out you're creepy, and then you need 311 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:20.600 to get a camera because you're too creepy for us. 312 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:23.519 Right, like, beta, So we started we started beta what 313 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:27.799 June first, We had about thirty days of private beta 314 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:32.639 with about one thousand users. We started public beta July eleventh, 315 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:35.360 so it's about twelve weeks right now, and we're over 316 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.360 thirty two thousand users already, right and you know, again 317 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:40.240 beta again. 318 00:15:40.159 --> 00:15:42.879 How many okay, but how many waiting to get in 319 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:45.519 on the app? Right now? We have we had thirty 320 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:49.639 two thousand active users, and how many are we holding 321 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:51.799 back from letting in right now that you're holding back? 322 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:56.600 So thirty two thousand total users okay, about sixteen thousand 323 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:59.320 in the app with invites and the rest of them 324 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:00.240 are waiting. 325 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.799 To get an invite to get into the app, and. 326 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:06.919 That's what's your reason for holding them back? Sorry, what's 327 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:09.200 the reason for not just letting the floodgates open and 328 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:12.639 let everybody in? Because right now, it's all by invitation. 329 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:17.480 Yeah, of course, Because like we're startup, right, and we're 330 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:21.360 growing much faster than the average startup. Right, you need 331 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:23.720 to have funding, and you need to have a large 332 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:25.639 team in order to be able to manage all of 333 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:27.000 these things and all these users. 334 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:29.519 I mean you look at Facebook and Instagram. These guys 335 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:31.960 have like thousands of people on their development team. Right. 336 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:34.159 We need to be able to scale to that point, 337 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:36.399 and we need to be able to control our growth 338 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:40.120 so we can focus on making a platform faster, making 339 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:43.480 a platform feel better, less bugs, less glitches, and then 340 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:45.679 when we get to a point where we feel comfortable 341 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:48.559 with the performance of the platform, then we open it 342 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:51.879 up to everybody else. As we raise funding, then we 343 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:55.320 speed it up and market and just you know, blow 344 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:58.279 this thing up and really bring bring bring it to 345 00:16:58.320 --> 00:16:59.080 the world's attention. 346 00:16:59.360 --> 00:16:59.759 For sure. 347 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:02.639 Now, if I remember, right, we we I don't mean me, 348 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:04.960 but we're talking about we because you're in the studio 349 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:08.759 right now. You we're going to wait till after January 350 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:11.480 to launch it. And then you were on it and 351 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:14.160 you were just playing around with grand cardon a few people, 352 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:17.480 and he said to you, listen, what are you hiding 353 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:19.960 this from the world for? Bring it out? So you 354 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:23.519 brought out earlier than planned. And I got to be honest, 355 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.599 for how fast you brought this out. From from the 356 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:29.440 time you started this to the time that you exposed 357 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:32.279 it to us in beta testing, you were how many 358 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:32.880 months into this? 359 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:36.640 Oh my god Jesus Christ. 360 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:38.519 Maybe nine months. 361 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:40.279 That's nine fast. 362 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:41.039 That was fast. 363 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.359 Sorry, twelve month October. 364 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:44.519 Is where do you go? 365 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:45.160 Where do you go? 366 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:46.200 Nelson? 367 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:47.880 You're there right here. 368 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:50.480 We disappeared, but we're in a studio where I get 369 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:52.799 a lot of finger movements, like I'm supposed to understand 370 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:55.720 all the finger movements. Andrew again, when you do that? 371 00:17:56.920 --> 00:17:58.799 Yeah, I know, hilarious. 372 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:00.119 I think, Andrew, give me out with it. 373 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:04.160 But what go ahead? You're good to go? 374 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:04.519 Okay? 375 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:06.759 Yeah, man, it's it's just it's just crazy. 376 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:09.160 You know, this thing start off as a joke, you know, 377 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:12.720 literally start off as a joke, and a in a 378 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:16.400 in a room on another app right and people on 379 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:17.799 the stage. I mean there was probably like I don't 380 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:20.279 know a thousand people in that room, and a bunch 381 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:22.039 of people from the community were like, Nelson, why don't 382 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:23.799 you just go build a platform, Why don't you just 383 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:26.119 go build a platform? And we were all just laughing 384 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:28.920 it off. And you know, that night I couldn't go 385 00:18:28.920 --> 00:18:30.079 to sleep, so thank. 386 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:34.160 You, no you go, I'm sorry, but I have us 387 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:36.720 because you'll run my clock real fast and go back 388 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:39.960 to break. Here's my ques. So we're on Instagram live 389 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:43.440 right now, so Andrew's got everything going. I want people 390 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:46.799 on Instagram to understand they're on live right now, but 391 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:49.279 they could be on social. They could be in chat 392 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:53.319 of social and be literally talking right So when we're 393 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:55.640 live on Saday nights in the studio and we're not 394 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:58.720 pre taping, they can join the conversation. I can leave 395 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:01.839 the studio and come right on and speak to them 396 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:04.920 on chatter and carry on my conversation. 397 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:08.880 Under I mean, right now, there's like I don't know 398 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:12.319 sixty some people in a chatter room that can literally 399 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:14.400 unmute their mic right now and join this. 400 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:16.039 And I want them to do that. We're gonna do that. 401 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:17.880