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<v Speaker 1>Hold you is bot it show die?

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<v Speaker 2>People say good money to see this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>When they go out to a theater, they want clod sodas,

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<v Speaker 3>hot popcorn and no monsters in the protection.

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<v Speaker 1>Booth, everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring, Turn it off?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you sure you want to do this thru shoes?

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<v Speaker 4>You want to break and through still highly regulated equipment.

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<v Speaker 2>This could be an already taken out.

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<v Speaker 5>There should be in and out in thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the rock and House space station and Bace

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<v Speaker 4>gives me any creeps, But the hues is I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>The fuck was I YoY?

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<v Speaker 1>Stop playing around now, just get out?

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<v Speaker 2>No playing around the CEA in the water.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>There's something in the mom Is this something in a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking war?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Run all right?

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<v Speaker 3>M hm.

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<v Speaker 2>No where else?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever comes once they said together, just go.

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<v Speaker 3>Ev F three two.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Projection Booth with a special crossover with

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<v Speaker 2>both the Culture Cast and Midnight Viewing. On this special episode,

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about Alien Romulus, directed by Fetti Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and written by Alvarez as well as Rodo. Sayah, Gwest,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my best guest on that one. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>sequel to Alien, a prequel to Aliens, prequel to Alien three,

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<v Speaker 2>prequel to Alien four, five, six, and seven. There's all

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<v Speaker 2>the Alien stuff in here, which was pretty surprising for me,

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<v Speaker 2>a brand new movie. Excited to talk about this one

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<v Speaker 2>with you guys. Tell me what were your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>Alien Romulus.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do pre spoilers in any of this conversation, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll talk all about the spoilery bullshit. I look,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I am a little younger than both of y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Alien is a franchise that I not was raised to

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<v Speaker 1>care about, but I was still of an age and

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<v Speaker 1>of a time and of a place to catch Alien

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<v Speaker 1>and see Alien when Alien was still a thing that

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<v Speaker 1>people were talking about. It's not that I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>people are not talking about Alien right now, far from it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just if an Alien sequel comes out ten years

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<v Speaker 1>from now, will it have the turnout that this one did?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the question, because there are going to be less

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<v Speaker 1>and less people unless they continue to make good Alien

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<v Speaker 1>movies that are inherently invested in the franchise. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that Prometheus and Covenant are maybe when I'm alluding

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<v Speaker 1>to because this movie is also a sequel to those movies.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on top of everything else. I enjoyed it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it has its pretty glaring issues, but I think, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I think my one word summary is it's the best

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<v Speaker 1>Alien movie I've ever seen in theaters. But that's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty low barred across in a lot of ways. Then alone,

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<v Speaker 1>what about you.

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<v Speaker 5>I love Alien Isolation the video game. It is so

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<v Speaker 5>much fun and so scary and is so evocative of

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<v Speaker 5>the original Alien, and this movie is very evocative of

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<v Speaker 5>the video game. I think if Fede Alva is a

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<v Speaker 5>fan of that game obviously, and a lot of the

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<v Speaker 5>dispine work is just built right.

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<v Speaker 2>In the whole scenes and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>I really was excited for an Alien movie for the

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<v Speaker 5>first time, and I don't know how many years, twenty

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<v Speaker 5>years more, and all I took away from it ultimately

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<v Speaker 5>was I really wanted to go play Alien Isolation.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, which is a drag. Look.

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<v Speaker 5>The movie has a lot of good points, but ultimately

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<v Speaker 5>where this movie breaks down for me on a very

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<v Speaker 5>fundamental level is there's not one interesting character and there

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<v Speaker 5>is not one charming actor in this entire movie. It

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<v Speaker 5>is akin to watching cut scenes from a video game, honestly,

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<v Speaker 5>and no disrespect to these actors, but they're all miscast,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're all cast too young. I was disappointed by

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<v Speaker 5>this movie. I'm gonna watch it again, probably just because

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a Mascus, but it does look beautiful, and I

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<v Speaker 5>love feed Alvarez, but this ain't no Evil Dead remake.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I was shocked at the poor quality here by you.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Mike White. Tell me everything you know about Navro

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<v Speaker 2>played by Eileen Wu. She's got short hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I know that they ruined the entire scene that

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<v Speaker 1>her character has in the movie in the trailers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Oh with the X ray machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, they ruined that in the trailer. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I know because that's all her character is

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<v Speaker 1>used for in the movie as well. If you watch

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer for this movie, you see what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They just what's an alien movie? It's gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>chess purster, no shit movie, No fucking way, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be an alien movie without a fucking chests person pount.

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<v Speaker 1>On one hand, the things that are guaranteed to be

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<v Speaker 1>in an alien movie at this point, chessbursters are one

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if this is an alien movie,

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<v Speaker 2>this is more of a face hugger movie. Hundreds and

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of face huggers in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like hundreds of beavers, but with face huggers instead.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would rather watch hundreds of beavers any day

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<v Speaker 2>of the week. Were over Alien Rodney List. I really

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<v Speaker 2>felt betrayed by this movie because it starts off very

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<v Speaker 2>strong for me. I was really enjoying the scenes of

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<v Speaker 2>Kaylee Spainey and David Johnson. I think his portrayal of Andy.

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<v Speaker 2>I really liked that portrayal. I don't know how he

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<v Speaker 2>does that with his face where he makes himself look

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<v Speaker 2>sad and confused all the time. I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do that, but I don't know. I don't think my

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<v Speaker 2>forehead moves nearly as much, and I haven't even had

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<v Speaker 2>my botox this week. It's so by the numbers after

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<v Speaker 2>a while, and then just all of the fan service,

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<v Speaker 2>with all of the lines and just the even the

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<v Speaker 2>movie just starts off looking almost exactly like Aliens with

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<v Speaker 2>the salvage ship, but instead of rescuing Rip, they're rescuing

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<v Speaker 2>the alien who, which was very tough for me to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no c was going on in the first

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<v Speaker 2>little bit when they pulled in this thing, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>is that an egg? What is it? And they're cutting

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<v Speaker 2>through and I'm just like, I don't know what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so dimly lit. And there were times on the

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<v Speaker 2>spaceship where I'm like, are there lights still operational? Can

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<v Speaker 2>you turn on some lights? Because I'd really like to

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<v Speaker 2>see that. Like even in the station on LV four

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six, where you know the colonists are all dead,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot more lighting in that colony, even though

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<v Speaker 2>it's completely desolated than there is on this space station,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't understand again why it's called Alien Romulus

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<v Speaker 2>because the ship is the Romulus and the remiss. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's cool. And I think that's the whole

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<v Speaker 2>motivator of this movie. Is it's cool. It's gonna look cool,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be cool if we make this reference. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>make this reference. And Yeah, I'm excited to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>spoilers because there's one that happens, and that for me

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<v Speaker 2>is the turning point of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, is that the one thing that we're just waiting

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<v Speaker 1>with baited breath to talk about because it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>someone just coming up to you at the playground and

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<v Speaker 1>punching you in the face repeatedly and saying this doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>hurt at all. Right, it's fine, Ian Home as it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're in spoiler terrace.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's no fucking way to avoid this at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>But from here on out spoilers because yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Danced around for a while.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot going on in this movie that troubling

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<v Speaker 5>beyond the Ian Home fucking cam Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But the ian Home thing is it's the bridge too

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<v Speaker 1>far for me. And it happened so early on in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, and it happened so frequently in the movie

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<v Speaker 1>that look, Peter Cushing in Rogue one was one thing

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<v Speaker 1>and it was literally one thing, one or two scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>If that it was not was it two?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there were more than two scenes that Oh got

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<v Speaker 2>that movie when the credits started rolling. And by the way, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing after the end credits. Don't bother to wait

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<v Speaker 2>around like I did. I took the bullet for you.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as the credits started to roll. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>this was like Rogue one. And then Alien Romulus came

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<v Speaker 2>in and said, oh, you think that looked horrific? And

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<v Speaker 2>just living in the Uncanny Valley. Here hold my beer,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm gonna make this worse than Princess Leah and

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<v Speaker 2>Graham Moth Tarkin all in one with whatever the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>they were doing with Ian Holme.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, he's a robot, see in an alien In the

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<v Speaker 1>alien universe, we always have to have a robot movie.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a robot. David Johnson is a robot. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to see the ghoulish specter of Ian Holme

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<v Speaker 1>dragged out and paraded around over and Oh, it's happened

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<v Speaker 1>so much that he's not just a cameo. He's essentially

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<v Speaker 1>the main villain of the movie, which again, that makes

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<v Speaker 1>it more of a Prometheus movie than it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>anything else, because Prometheus an Alien Covenant are pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>just about the robots, which, honestly, you know, the dude's

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<v Speaker 1>over read letter media. I think they really laid into

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<v Speaker 1>Prometheus a long time ago. And I think Prometheus had

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<v Speaker 1>Govenant are better movies than Romulus, because at least they're

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<v Speaker 1>movies that are different, but Alien Romulus the fan service

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that they did is more of an affront to

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<v Speaker 1>me personally than the missteps and problems that Prometheus and

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<v Speaker 1>Covenant are just making and Prometheus less so than Covenant,

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<v Speaker 1>but Prometheus is at least a movie that's different than

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. This is just Alien with some Aliens, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of Alien three at the beginning, and then, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, you guys like Resurrection, We're gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>you something that is Resurrection levels of insanity in the

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<v Speaker 1>last ten minutes in this movie. Hold let me one

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<v Speaker 1>up the wildest thing in Alien in the entire Aliens

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<v Speaker 1>franchise with something so beyond that it's that's another thing

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about. I'm sure, But Father Malone,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to let you speak broadly about this, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's more than just the I at Holme problem. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, let me address the home problem. I admired the

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<v Speaker 5>daring in trying if they had built an animatronic and

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<v Speaker 5>not done any CGI at all, and had a fucked

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<v Speaker 5>up animatronic that wasas and crazy because they could do

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<v Speaker 5>it now, they could deprint something that's Ian fucking home,

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<v Speaker 5>and that they could put mechanisms in it to do

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<v Speaker 5>every little facial twitch and whatever. Had they pulled that off,

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<v Speaker 5>I think I would have been okay. But because they

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<v Speaker 5>kept doing photo realistic deep fake Ian Home where again

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<v Speaker 5>it's to me, it's what's funny is when he's in

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<v Speaker 5>the scene with the other characters, it's not as bad

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<v Speaker 5>for me as when they cut to him on a

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<v Speaker 5>video screen like advising them, because when they ever they

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<v Speaker 5>do that, it really feels like a cut scene for

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<v Speaker 5>a video game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's googlish. At that point, it totally reminded me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a big video gamer. Even me as a non gamer,

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<v Speaker 2>when he would show up on screens, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>is this like the Red Queen in Resident Evil where

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<v Speaker 2>she would show up on screens and be like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>from Portal Adjacent and Father Alone. Alien Isolation is yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Alien Isolation is still the best sequel to Alien that's

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<v Speaker 2>ever come out, similarly to the way that Ghostbusters video

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<v Speaker 2>because this is people making it that understand what the

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't feel hamfisted, because they have plenty of time

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<v Speaker 2>to It's so much easier to do fan service in

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<v Speaker 2>a video game because you don't have to hang a

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<v Speaker 2>lantern on it constantly because it's just there, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>to it over and over again, Oh my god, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>no one in the test screenings think that this was

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<v Speaker 2>too much. I don't know who they're screening these movies for,

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<v Speaker 2>have said, take this out of the movie, do something

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<v Speaker 2>with this, do anything but this, because it's so distracting

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<v Speaker 2>and it gets in the way of the movie doing

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<v Speaker 5>Let me double down at my opening statement. The Ian

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<v Speaker 5>softened had we had adults in roles here and had

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<v Speaker 5>we had charming actors. I like Kayley Spanney as well.

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<v Speaker 5>I enjoy her work, but she is not Ellen Ripley,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're making her Ellen Ripley here, and it's a

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<v Speaker 5>big mistake shouldering this movie on her is I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not a good idea. But then the entire cast,

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<v Speaker 5>other than Andy the Android, by the way, they break

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<v Speaker 5>the cycle here. If you go through the Alien movies there,

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<v Speaker 5>the androids have been named alphabetically, So there's Ash and

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<v Speaker 5>then Bishop and then Call and then David, then and

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<v Speaker 2>And then you've got Rook. Now Ash's Rook. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>called Tongle put together back in twenty eighteen for a

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<v Speaker 2>fortieth anniversary of Alien. So in twenty nineteen they released

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<v Speaker 2>a series of six films that were written by fans,

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<v Speaker 2>shot by fans, made by fans. I believe, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they probably took some of these fan

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<v Speaker 2>ideas and made them into a full length movie. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking to see if the co writer is listed on

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<v Speaker 2>any of these because this just feels like a big

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<v Speaker 2>fucking fan film, just feels like, oh, we'll a service

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<v Speaker 2>to everything. We'll even mix in some of this commeanant

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<v Speaker 2>Prometheus horseshit that we have with this black oil which

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<v Speaker 2>I saw in X Files twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>How dare you bring up x Files in this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a much better usage of black oil than this

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<v Speaker 1>could have ever begun to. But that's what they fucking

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<v Speaker 1>copied there totally as anyone who's watched the X Files,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't that happen in Prometheus? And now it's does anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in this audience fucking care that they're connecting it to Prometheus?

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<v Speaker 5>Who did Ridley Scott? And they did that for him?

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<v Speaker 5>I guarantee you for those every Prometheus references and go

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<v Speaker 5>see we're connecting it all And it's okay. He's happy.

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<v Speaker 5>We can make the rest of our movie. But the

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<v Speaker 5>problem is, Chris, as you said, that Alien Isolation video

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<v Speaker 5>game is the best sequel to the Alien franchise that

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<v Speaker 5>we never got, and why didn't they just make that

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<v Speaker 5>the Alien Isolation. The plot line in that is Amanda

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<v Speaker 5>Ripley went looking for mom and ended up on this

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<v Speaker 5>space station that is overrun with any alliens and you're

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<v Speaker 5>playing as Amanda Ripley like it's a natural.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because the game already exists.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know, is there a rights issue where like

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<v Speaker 5>they want to make their own shit or something like,

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<v Speaker 5>and Fee Alvarez wanted to do an original, but then

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<v Speaker 5>he pulls so heavily from the fucking game, even to

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<v Speaker 5>the point if I don't know if you noticed, Chris,

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<v Speaker 5>but this anytime there's a saved portion in the game,

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<v Speaker 5>it's one of the intercom things on the wall, and

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<v Speaker 5>every time you save the game, some shit's about to

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<v Speaker 5>go down, And he does that in the movie. He'll

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<v Speaker 5>close up the fuck in intercom and then suddenly swarm

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<v Speaker 5>of face huggers. So he's drawing inspiration from the game. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>just make the game into the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because this whole thing of the Ghostbusters,

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<v Speaker 1>Afterlife and the Star Wars force awakens of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, this is the way these movies are made now,

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<v Speaker 1>which is we got to have all this fan service

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<v Speaker 1>nonsense that in the universe. Why would he say, get

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<v Speaker 1>away from her, you bitch? It makes no sense. This

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<v Speaker 1>movie's being played straight. This movie's being played straight forward.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no fourth wall breaking, there's none of that. Why

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<v Speaker 1>would he say that this that hasn't even happened yet,

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<v Speaker 1>We're still thirty years removed from that happening. Because this

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<v Speaker 1>is only twenty years after Alien, which means it's still

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven years before Ripley gets found because she's in

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<v Speaker 1>space for fifty seven years? Did she say it because

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<v Speaker 1>he said it? I don't fucking understand. I prefer artificial person.

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<v Speaker 1>That line makes sense, It makes perfect sense. I get

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<v Speaker 1>that entirely, because that's that makes more sense than get

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<v Speaker 1>away from her, you bitch. But it's just with the

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<v Speaker 1>Ian holme of it all and everything else. Fan service

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<v Speaker 1>needs to have a point within the construct of the

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<v Speaker 1>movie itself. Otherwise it's just out there for the fans.

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<v Speaker 1>And are you sacrificing telling an interesting story just to

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<v Speaker 1>have bullshit on screen that's already been on screen before? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how you get Ghostbusters. Afterlife with a CGI,

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<v Speaker 1>Harold Ramis running around. I don't understand putting fan service

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<v Speaker 1>before engaging storytelling, or to your point, Father Malone, engaging

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<v Speaker 1>in creative character development, because nobody but Andy in this

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<v Speaker 1>movie is an interesting character period.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a Friday the thirteenth movie in the Alien universe.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a bunch of teenagers going off to the scary

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<v Speaker 5>place and then oh no aliens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking of Evil Dead and like you, the remake,

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<v Speaker 2>which I am not a fan of. I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>the second Evil remake, however you want to put that in,

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought was Fetti Albarez, but found out that

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<v Speaker 2>it's not. I like that one. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>actually pretty good and was like, oh, this is really

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<v Speaker 2>nice and gross. So when the one character who's pregnant,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all you need to know about her because that's

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<v Speaker 2>all she is, just a pregnant person. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, she somehow the alien is going to get

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<v Speaker 2>in there and we're going to have that moments Dawn

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<v Speaker 2>of the Dead remake where the corpse baby comes out

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<v Speaker 2>of the woman. We're going to get that somehow or

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<v Speaker 2>like an alien baby in this case, how are we

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<v Speaker 2>going to do that? Because I'm just like trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what the alien life cycle and all this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where the black goo comes in. I'm just like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how we're going to do that. Don't put that

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<v Speaker 2>in your system. Okay, I won't put.

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<v Speaker 3>It right in.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the alien life cycle, which I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty familiar with. I guess I missed the wall

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<v Speaker 2>vagina part. Didn't know that was a thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually liked that. I thought that was so fucking

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<v Speaker 5>gieger like. And just because we haven't seen one of

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<v Speaker 5>the life cycles doesn't mean it didn't exist. Ultimately, these

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<v Speaker 5>are genetic clones. There's no queen here. These have all

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<v Speaker 5>been harvested from the genetic contents of the original alien

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<v Speaker 5>yet big Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>B Hayden's son, the Big Chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, look, we got it.

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<v Speaker 5>Movie starts with a salvage ship finding them remains in

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<v Speaker 5>this stromo. It's great, right, It's like John's two when

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<v Speaker 5>they find the orca at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like my favorite film in the Jurassic World franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joking because that's how Falling That's literally how Fallen

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<v Speaker 1>Kingdom opens. They go to Jurassic World to get a

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<v Speaker 1>dinosaur tooth, and then the entire movie is based off

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<v Speaker 1>of that, like legacy sequel block checked again, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not bad here, but it's they've done it a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of times.

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<v Speaker 5>No, because this is integrable to the plot at least,

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<v Speaker 5>except Ripley had escaped in the Narcissus and was so

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<v Speaker 5>far away from that thing whendn't explode it, and then

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<v Speaker 5>shot the thing with a harpoon and then blasted with

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<v Speaker 5>the engine, which meant that alien was tumbling on through

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<v Speaker 5>space forever and ever, they were never.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to find that.

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<v Speaker 5>As much as I liked seeing him and thinking like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>all the villains in this are going to be from

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<v Speaker 5>that guy from the original movie, Okay, that's cool. And

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<v Speaker 5>I did like the mirroring of aliens in that case,

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<v Speaker 5>like a crew went out and found Ripley, but before that,

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<v Speaker 5>a crew went out and found the alien, because that's

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<v Speaker 5>more important.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. Plot wise, also reminded me of Superman

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<v Speaker 2>Returns where he goes out and I think they cut

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<v Speaker 2>this out of the movie, or maybe they didn't, where

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<v Speaker 2>he goes out to find Krypton and sees that it

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<v Speaker 2>is exploded. But yeah, I agree with you, that alien

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<v Speaker 2>corpse would have been so far away from the Nostromo

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make sense where it is. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to quibble about the physics of that, because, like you say,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know certain things, like I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>get into other than my one thing about the wall

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<v Speaker 2>Vagina too much about that because I remember Harry Dean Stanton,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, picking up the skin of the first one

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<v Speaker 2>in the first movie, and so we know that it sheds,

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<v Speaker 2>we know that it grows. We never really see that

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<v Speaker 2>middle part of its life cycle before becomes a parent,

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<v Speaker 2>but before it becomes a real alien. And yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>for all intents the purposes, a male alien, So calling

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<v Speaker 2>it a bitch doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's none of that gravitas as far as Ripley

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<v Speaker 2>protecting Newt and having this other mother who has destroyed

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<v Speaker 2>this entire planet of LV four twenty six and all

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<v Speaker 2>of these people that Ripley knows. Yeah, how well written

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<v Speaker 2>is aliens that you hear about characters like Drake and

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<v Speaker 2>a pohone and all of these guys in that intro,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas with this one, Yeah, a bunch of dead meat

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<v Speaker 2>teenagers who I don't know and I don't care to know,

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't tell me anything about them.

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<v Speaker 1>That one guy has a really heavy British accent. There's

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<v Speaker 1>something in the wah eh oh, shut the fuck up?

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<v Speaker 1>How many times have I heard that in the trailers?

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<v Speaker 5>Now, speaking of fan service, would you guys like some cornbread?

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<v Speaker 5>Don't mind my drinking birding scene? I was like, Oh no,

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<v Speaker 5>we're not gonna be doing this the whole time, are we?

420
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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

421
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<v Speaker 1>We are. Here's the thing, though, it's an interesting question

422
00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:36.079
<v Speaker 1>how much of the fan service is him and how

423
00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:39.519
<v Speaker 1>much of the fan service is just studio meddling. Is

424
00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that a thing that we could say Disney wanted in

425
00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Home in the movie, like Disney wanted all that shit

426
00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:49.759
<v Speaker 1>Fetti Afarez made and wrote with roto psygaiis the Evil

427
00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Dead remake, which Milege is going to very clearly between

428
00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:55.079
<v Speaker 1>the three of us, it's a better movie than this movie,

429
00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't beach over the head with the fucking

430
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<v Speaker 1>fan service like this movie does. Wonder if some of

431
00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:03.720
<v Speaker 1>this is just the Disney of it all, which ooy,

432
00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't that be fucking fun because I would echo Deadpool

433
00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and Wolverine. That movie's problems. A lot of it comes

434
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:13.279
<v Speaker 1>from what I believe to be meddling of a studio

435
00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:16.640
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't really understand what they have and never has,

436
00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:18.799
<v Speaker 1>which is why they didn't own it up until the

437
00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:21.960
<v Speaker 1>last couple of years. And now that they do their meddling,

438
00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:24.559
<v Speaker 1>maybe getting in the way of these things actually having

439
00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:27.079
<v Speaker 1>a soul of their own as opposed to feeling corporatey

440
00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and soulless, which is the way Deadpool and Wolverine felt

441
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:34.039
<v Speaker 1>at times. And this feels really like that. This feels

442
00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:39.279
<v Speaker 1>like a fan film with a massive budget. Guys liked Alien, right,

443
00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:41.920
<v Speaker 1>You like Ian Holme. You like the Newborn in Resurrection.

444
00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:43.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who liked the Newborn and Resurrection.

445
00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:46.839
<v Speaker 2>I like the Newborn. I like Resurrection a lot, and

446
00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I like it a lot more. I think

447
00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.799
<v Speaker 2>I like Resurrection. To me, is in all of the

448
00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:55.000
<v Speaker 2>movies that we've been talking about, other than Aliens. I

449
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:56.480
<v Speaker 2>think that's one of my favorites.

450
00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like it's Aliens esque. It's pretty much

451
00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:03.319
<v Speaker 1>just other Aliens, but with space pirates as opposed to

452
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.079
<v Speaker 1>colonial marines. I'm with you. I was being flipping about

453
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the Newborn, but the Newborn is actually the first interesting

454
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>thing they did in three movies, is what it felt like.

455
00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:14.559
<v Speaker 1>Aliens is great, but Aliens sets that standard Alien three

456
00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>is Alien three, and I don't want to draw the

457
00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:20.279
<v Speaker 1>ire of the Alien three fan base, but Resurrection has

458
00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:22.359
<v Speaker 1>an interesting, weird fucking thing at the end of it,

459
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>like this movie does. It was done better in Resurrection

460
00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:28.079
<v Speaker 1>and here it's just it's like a mix of It's

461
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:30.680
<v Speaker 1>like mixing everything into a way. It's like going to

462
00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:32.720
<v Speaker 1>a soda fountain and getting all the things in the

463
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:34.799
<v Speaker 1>cup and being like, this is gonna taste good. No,

464
00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:36.759
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a lot. And none of this was

465
00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:39.519
<v Speaker 1>really fine tuned and calibrated to be in the same

466
00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:43.000
<v Speaker 1>thing together. And that's apparent when Alien and Prometheus are

467
00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:45.200
<v Speaker 1>existing on the same screen together and one of those

468
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:48.559
<v Speaker 1>things definitely fucking doesn't feel like the other, that being

469
00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>everything from Prometheus. When they go into that lab, I

470
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:53.880
<v Speaker 1>was just like, oh God, here we go. This is

471
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>where the movie does the thing right, this is where

472
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.759
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do the thing with the Prometheus stuff. Telegraph everything.

473
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you movie please?

474
00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:03.720
<v Speaker 5>Well, there's nothing to telegraph, because it's almost just the

475
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.759
<v Speaker 5>greatest hits of the previous Alien movies. I will say this,

476
00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:10.279
<v Speaker 5>I liked the Newborn here better than I like it

477
00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:13.319
<v Speaker 5>from Resurrection, just because I think it was creepier here

478
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:17.880
<v Speaker 5>and better executed because the man in the suit in

479
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:22.599
<v Speaker 5>that thing, it's so poorly articulated. The Newborn in Resurrection, like,

480
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.920
<v Speaker 5>I almost wish that had been CG instead. But there

481
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.119
<v Speaker 5>are some things that I like in this movie. I

482
00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:31.759
<v Speaker 5>like that newborn scene here. I like the even though

483
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:35.559
<v Speaker 5>that character is pregnant, she follows two stories two and

484
00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:38.119
<v Speaker 5>to a point where I actually thought the character was

485
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:40.519
<v Speaker 5>dead when she fell that far. I went, oh, man,

486
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:42.519
<v Speaker 5>that's that's top that she died that way in an

487
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:46.000
<v Speaker 5>alien movie. But so I like that sequence. I like

488
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:51.000
<v Speaker 5>when they show the aliens doing intelligent things, like there's

489
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:53.720
<v Speaker 5>a scene where we first encountered the adult alien with

490
00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:57.160
<v Speaker 5>that girl, where it's chasing her and she wants to

491
00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 5>be let in through the airlock and the android won't

492
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.359
<v Speaker 5>let it in because he can see the alien sitting

493
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:04.480
<v Speaker 5>there because it wants it to open. It wants them

494
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:07.720
<v Speaker 5>to open the door. And just moments like that are great.

495
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.680
<v Speaker 5>I wish there had been a movie like that, a

496
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:13.599
<v Speaker 5>cat and mouse game with an alien instead of the

497
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:16.079
<v Speaker 5>greatest hits of everything that came before. I also do

498
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 5>like these zero G acid blood sequence.

499
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.680
<v Speaker 2>That was nice. That was a nice kind of show

500
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.279
<v Speaker 2>piece that they had, and it was nice that they

501
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:28.160
<v Speaker 2>built it up earlier in the film, and I kept thinking, Okay,

502
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>that's going to come back later on, but I wasn't

503
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.640
<v Speaker 2>sure how they would have it. So when it was

504
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:35.599
<v Speaker 2>with the acid blood, I was like, okay, yeah, that works.

505
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:38.279
<v Speaker 2>The way that she uses the gun to propel herself

506
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 2>around was pretty cool as well.

507
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.240
<v Speaker 5>And speaking of acid blood, I like their treatment of

508
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:45.599
<v Speaker 5>the acid blood in the first film, Like a drop

509
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.319
<v Speaker 5>of it goes through three decks of their ship. They're

510
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 5>word it's going to breach the hull. And then in

511
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.920
<v Speaker 5>each successive things, people are getting sprayed with it and

512
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 5>they're like, oh, I'll be okay, just wipe it off,

513
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:58.119
<v Speaker 5>and and here it's corrosive as goddamn hell. I love

514
00:27:58.200 --> 00:27:59.200
<v Speaker 5>that aspect of it.

515
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Packson gets showered in a fair amount of it in

516
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Aliens and he's fine, but Drake, on the other hand,

517
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>gets a face full of it and is dead.

518
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:08.759
<v Speaker 2>I think you mean Hicks, sir House.

519
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I want to go back to the thing about

520
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:14.319
<v Speaker 1>the characters, because I watched Aliens last night and that

521
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 1>movie takes forty five minutes to get going so good.

522
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love the length, and when you're

523
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.880
<v Speaker 2>watching the director's cut, it's almost an hour before those

524
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:25.279
<v Speaker 2>aliens ever show up.

525
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>And it's and exactly so. That was the version I

526
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:29.519
<v Speaker 1>watched last night, the two hour and thirty four minute version,

527
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>And the movie spends so much time getting its legs

528
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:36.599
<v Speaker 1>underneath it to make sure that you care about everything

529
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:39.759
<v Speaker 1>that's about to be happening through the characters that they've introduced,

530
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>be it the guy loading the missiles onto the ships,

531
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>to the woman who's the pilot of the little aircraft

532
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:48.799
<v Speaker 1>carrier thing or the little ship that goes down from

533
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the Sulaco like all of that. They spend all the

534
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>time and effort, and this movie's an hour two hours long,

535
00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and it does nothing with any of the characters we've mentioned.

536
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Kaylee Spanny, she's in a better movie. This is the

537
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>best movie I've seen her in this year that she's

538
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 1>been in. That's not hard given that the last thing

539
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:09.839
<v Speaker 1>that we talked about, the Three of Us a civil War,

540
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:12.519
<v Speaker 1>and she was in that, and she was completely under

541
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:14.319
<v Speaker 1>used in that movie. Not that she didn't need to

542
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>be in it, but she wasn't given much to do.

543
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the point in a lot of

544
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 1>ways of that movie. Here. I think she's fine, But

545
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I think this movie does have a horror movie problem,

546
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>which is there are characters on screen and they're gonna die.

547
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:30.519
<v Speaker 1>You know that. You just don't know how many are

548
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:32.839
<v Speaker 1>going to be left at the end, and I think

549
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:34.839
<v Speaker 1>they picked the right number. I think this is a

550
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>again two people, one human and one one android or

551
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:42.119
<v Speaker 1>artificial person. But all the other characters are completely worthless.

552
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying the actors didn't do a good job.

553
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I think the actors are fine. It's that the writing

554
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 1>does not help any of this rible.

555
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:53.200
<v Speaker 5>It's not just any one thing. It's the writing, it's

556
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 5>the performances, it's the choice to make them all fucking

557
00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 5>twenty years old. I care about every member of the

558
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:01.839
<v Speaker 5>crew of than A stra I care about every member

559
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:02.839
<v Speaker 5>of the crew of the Silaca.

560
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:04.279
<v Speaker 2>We got to talk about those shares.

561
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, It's surprising how little character development is in

562
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:12.319
<v Speaker 1>this movie, given that this movie is two hours long.

563
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:14.440
<v Speaker 5>But it does just feel what even for a story,

564
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.319
<v Speaker 5>is the fucking beginning of the movie solo that remember

565
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.920
<v Speaker 5>that it's the same can begin. We've got to get

566
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.400
<v Speaker 5>off this horrid planet where we never see the sun. Wait,

567
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.440
<v Speaker 5>they're changing my credits. I have to stay another seven years.

568
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:28.319
<v Speaker 5>They have a ship. Leave, just leave.

569
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:30.799
<v Speaker 2>That was the thing I kept wondering about. I'm like,

570
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>is the next closest planet really that far away?

571
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Is a really?

572
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:39.359
<v Speaker 2>What is it nine years in a cryo chamber away?

573
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Or can you just hop, skip and a jump to

574
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:43.799
<v Speaker 2>someplace where you can see the sun and maybe there's

575
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:45.559
<v Speaker 2>another M class planet around here.

576
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Come on, guys, You've got a spaceship on a planet, though,

577
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and they can leave, and they never explain why they don't.

578
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:54.079
<v Speaker 2>And that whole thing of them being on this mining planet.

579
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, man, I'd rather be watching Outland. I

580
00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>really like that movie so much better than this, even

581
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>with the Ian Holmes stuff versus the Grand Moth tark

582
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:08.720
<v Speaker 2>and I was really reminded of just the unnecessary rogue one.

583
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 2>It's funny that and Or got his own show, because

584
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 2>I was like, and Or, I barely remember that guy.

585
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.599
<v Speaker 2>He's nothing. He's got his robot companion, who I find

586
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.559
<v Speaker 2>to be more charming than him. And when they finally

587
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>brought out a show of and Or, I was like, Okay,

588
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.319
<v Speaker 2>this is great now I finally get to know this character,

589
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.599
<v Speaker 2>even though he's the least interesting character in the entire show.

590
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>It's really more still in Stars Guard Show. For me.

591
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't Yeah, I didn't know any of those people.

592
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 2>I just knew Donnie Yenne because he's an actor other

593
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.119
<v Speaker 2>than Ian Holme and our main character. I don't know

594
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:43.799
<v Speaker 2>any of these actors. Nothing to latch onto as far

595
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:46.720
<v Speaker 2>as even bringing things from other movies. At least with

596
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>that horrific sequel to Pacific Rim at least I got

597
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 2>some characters that I remember. Though. They bring in John

598
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Boyega and her and I'm just like, and what's eastwood

599
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Son's name? Scott, I'm like, these are all just zero charisma.

600
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:05.359
<v Speaker 2>He's zero charisma. The other two are not boy yea

601
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:08.200
<v Speaker 2>ga I love, but he's not given anything to do either.

602
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Scott Eastwood is proto Glenn Powell somehow. Glenn Powell is

603
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.640
<v Speaker 1>a much more charismatic guy. And his dad's not Clint Eastwood,

604
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.279
<v Speaker 1>which is pretty fucked up but also amusing at the

605
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>same time. All the characters I fall them alone. Again,

606
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I think we differ on what the feelings are on

607
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 1>why they're not great, But I think the feeling. The

608
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>sentiment is still the same. This has like a prequel

609
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>problem with the characters. They just they don't want to

610
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 1>do anything interesting with them for whatever reason. I'd die

611
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>because they're not aliens. The aliens are what you're writing

612
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:39.559
<v Speaker 1>this movie for fuck's sake, I get it. And then

613
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:41.359
<v Speaker 1>the face hugger. None of us have ever gotten a

614
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:43.519
<v Speaker 1>chance to write that in a script that anybody's gonna

615
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:45.519
<v Speaker 1>do anything with. And if we did, probably be just

616
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:48.039
<v Speaker 1>as excited to talk about and write for the aliens

617
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>than I would be for the humans. I'm not a

618
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:51.799
<v Speaker 1>fucking idiot anymore than either one of you guys are.

619
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>We're writing an alien movie, probably gonna want to focus

620
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>on the aliens. However, that's not how this works, because

621
00:32:57.759 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>that's not how this fucking franchise has really ever worked.

622
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 1>When it's but that's at its best, even in Prometheus,

623
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Numi Rapas's character is better written than all the characters

624
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.319
<v Speaker 1>in this movie. And in Prometheus, it actually does a

625
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:12.039
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a trick with that movie because you

626
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>actually care about some of the characters in that movie

627
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>because they give you a little bit of time with

628
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:18.799
<v Speaker 1>them and Sam. Similarly to Covenant, it takes a while

629
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:21.039
<v Speaker 1>for those movies to get going. This movie, on the

630
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>other hand, is a horror movie for twenty somethings and

631
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:27.759
<v Speaker 1>their parents to go see together. Because that's the thing

632
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>all the articles and information I've been reading is my

633
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>parents went and saw Aliens together, and so we're gonna

634
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 1>go see this movie all of us now, and at

635
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:36.799
<v Speaker 1>the cool I'm glad that can be a shared experience

636
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 1>and that people's generational things that people have shared with

637
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:41.559
<v Speaker 1>their kids can now be a thing that we all

638
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:44.599
<v Speaker 1>go see an alien movie in theaters together. However, I

639
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.599
<v Speaker 1>wish there was more to this as opposed to just alien.

640
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>It's alien. That's not enough, but for some people it's

641
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be. And I'm not saying that those people's

642
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:56.359
<v Speaker 1>opinions are lesser, better, worse than mine. It's just my

643
00:33:56.559 --> 00:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>bar here with alien movies. Alien as a franchise, it's

644
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:04.039
<v Speaker 1>probably pretty high because this is a franchise that I

645
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.759
<v Speaker 1>have been watching since I was like thirteen, and that's

646
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 1>not for nothing. Twenty one years now. For y'all, it's

647
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:13.039
<v Speaker 1>a little bit longer than that. But this has been

648
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.119
<v Speaker 1>a franchise that's been part of our lives for a while.

649
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting listening a father Malone rattle off the names

650
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>of the goddamn ships here. So he's as invested as

651
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you and I are. Mike, I know you're invested as well.

652
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:24.360
<v Speaker 1>And at this point, it's like you got to do

653
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.280
<v Speaker 1>more for people like us on top of being able

654
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.760
<v Speaker 1>to make a movie for everybody, and people like us,

655
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I think at some point are just going to go.

656
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>You can't just keep doing the same thing over and

657
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 1>over again with the fan service that we've seen in

658
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>all these other fan service movies, because Alien doesn't need it.

659
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.679
<v Speaker 1>Alien at its best was not about trotting out the

660
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>old lines and having people say them knew that aren't

661
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.079
<v Speaker 1>to the original actors. That was never a thing in

662
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.039
<v Speaker 1>this franchise. The point of this franchise is very different.

663
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Point of this franchise is all over the place in

664
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:57.639
<v Speaker 1>terms of what movie you're watching or what source material

665
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.639
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing. But this movie just wanted to take a

666
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.599
<v Speaker 1>horror movie and put an alien in it, which is fine.

667
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 1>That's just not enough for me at least.

668
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think about the movie Prey that didn't get

669
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:12.559
<v Speaker 2>a theatrical run, right, it was just dumped right to

670
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Hulu and that was supposed to be this too. This

671
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:17.239
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be dumped to Hulu, and I remember

672
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:18.800
<v Speaker 2>with Pray, I was like, Wow, what do you like

673
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:21.760
<v Speaker 2>tossing that in on the big screen. I don't think

674
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I would have said that for this one. The thing

675
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:25.880
<v Speaker 2>that I liked about Prey was that they had like

676
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 2>that little nod with the gun at the end. You're like, oh,

677
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 2>that's the same gun that Danny Glover had and Predator two.

678
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:34.559
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty cool. And of course there's other little hints

679
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:38.639
<v Speaker 2>of things, but way better than the Predator where you got, oh,

680
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:40.960
<v Speaker 2>get to those choppers and I'm just like, oh god,

681
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>this is so embarrassing. Had they taken this idea because

682
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:49.480
<v Speaker 2>the First Alien is very much a horror movie with

683
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.039
<v Speaker 2>an alien and it conquered the Earth type of thing

684
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>or what was the terror beond it terror beyond space

685
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:57.639
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. It was like, Okay, cool, Yeah, that's great,

686
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:01.000
<v Speaker 2>take it. But please, if you go with the fan service,

687
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:04.400
<v Speaker 2>just have these guys running into another ship or like

688
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:10.079
<v Speaker 2>another alien rather than this particular high end to Ripley

689
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:12.719
<v Speaker 2>and her story just said it someplace else, and that's

690
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 2>what the comic books, the old Dark Horse comics used

691
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.440
<v Speaker 2>to do. They had a whole new characters that they

692
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:20.840
<v Speaker 2>had and they were great. Those were awesome comic books.

693
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I really recommend those, and I think they could have

694
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 2>learned something from this where they don't have to just

695
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>be so slavish to all of the old stuff and

696
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>just keep giving us these nods, because for me, every

697
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:34.440
<v Speaker 2>time they do it just takes me out of it.

698
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:39.159
<v Speaker 5>They should just adapt those comics into a fucking theories already, or.

699
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>The books or the fucking multitude of books that they've

700
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>written all the a. You can go to Half Prize

701
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Books right now and pick up five or six Alien

702
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>books for fifty cents that are better written than this

703
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>movie is. And I get it. It's a two hundred

704
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 1>page book and it's not a two hour movie and

705
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:54.480
<v Speaker 1>all the time blah blah blah. You know what, that's

706
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.039
<v Speaker 1>not a fucking excuse, because we have mentioned already Alien

707
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and Aliens and even Prometheus actually do some character development

708
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that's worth talking about.

709
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:06.480
<v Speaker 5>You can get audio books of Alien if you don't

710
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 5>want to read them, and they've got some audio dramas

711
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:09.920
<v Speaker 5>that are really fucking good.

712
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Alien is a franchise that has so much extended universe

713
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:18.440
<v Speaker 1>material that's still cannon until Disney doesn't want to be anymore.

714
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:21.639
<v Speaker 1>Probably at this point there's so much that they could

715
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.519
<v Speaker 1>have drawn from that. They just were like, not Alien

716
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and aliens. That's it the alien base movies. Nobody has

717
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.079
<v Speaker 1>read Alien whatever the fuck X Y and Z book,

718
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.119
<v Speaker 1>just rip that off, even to your point for them

719
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>like isolations, you would have thought enough removed, And clearly

720
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.079
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways it is from the mainstream

721
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.119
<v Speaker 1>to rip that off without getting lambasted for it in

722
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:41.760
<v Speaker 1>every review for the movie.

723
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 5>You know what'd be a good link between Alien and

724
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.719
<v Speaker 5>Aliens Alan Ripley's daughter trying to find her.

725
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 2>So I had a real problem with Alien three in

726
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:56.559
<v Speaker 2>the idea of and this was more in the grips

727
00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:59.239
<v Speaker 2>that were rejected for Alien three, but it still ended

728
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:02.480
<v Speaker 2>up being an Ali three. This whole idea of if

729
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.119
<v Speaker 2>an alien just states in something that's not a human,

730
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:09.119
<v Speaker 2>it takes on the properties of that creature, which to

731
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:11.679
<v Speaker 2>me just doesn't make any sense. It's that whole idea

732
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:16.760
<v Speaker 2>of if an alien embeds a baby inside of a rhino,

733
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:18.840
<v Speaker 2>it's going to come out with like armor plating in

734
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:21.400
<v Speaker 2>a forlorn and that just doesn't make sense as far

735
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:25.400
<v Speaker 2>as the DNA of the alien itself. It's cool Kenner

736
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Toys mite it does, but it makes sense with the

737
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 2>black goo with the black oil, like that kind of

738
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:35.719
<v Speaker 2>makes sense. But where, oh, where is that mouse alien

739
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.800
<v Speaker 2>in this movie? That's what I was waiting for. Once

740
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:42.320
<v Speaker 2>you see that mouse explode in that video footage, I'm

741
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.440
<v Speaker 2>waiting for that mouse alily to come out. Yeah, where

742
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:45.840
<v Speaker 2>was it?

743
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:48.000
<v Speaker 5>It was just what we got was like a cocoon

744
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:50.320
<v Speaker 5>kind of a thing, and then no payoff, and then

745
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 5>we get another cocoon later saying if you see a cocoon,

746
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 5>there's something in there.

747
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:54.760
<v Speaker 2>It's coming for you.

748
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:58.199
<v Speaker 1>And again the Prometheus of it all, we have a

749
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:02.079
<v Speaker 1>direct homage to Prometheus with the pregnant woman at the

750
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:03.800
<v Speaker 1>end of the movie, because that's I've got to assume

751
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're referencing with her laying the alien egg,

752
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.159
<v Speaker 1>which is very similar to what happens to Numi Rapas

753
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and the third act of that movie where she has

754
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:13.719
<v Speaker 1>the emergency C section and she has the thing taken

755
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:15.679
<v Speaker 1>out of her and I'm a lot of wiggling on

756
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:18.119
<v Speaker 1>the arm like it's just that again, like they're even

757
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the thing in this movie that kind of feels somewhat

758
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:24.199
<v Speaker 1>unique and original is ultimately a poor fact simile of

759
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.159
<v Speaker 1>a thing you've already done elsewhere two movies ago, two

760
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:32.320
<v Speaker 1>movies ago, even, not three, not Alien, two goddamn movies ago.

761
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.119
<v Speaker 1>And how do I know this because at least got

762
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 1>directed the goddamn thing and he produced the fucking movie.

763
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:39.159
<v Speaker 1>And to your point, father Malone, if it's not Fox meddling,

764
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:41.559
<v Speaker 1>it's Ridley Scott going, I'm producing this, so you better

765
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>have this shit in here.

766
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:46.440
<v Speaker 5>Oh, it absolutely is, because here's I haven't said anything

767
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:48.880
<v Speaker 5>about Prometheus or that other fucking Covenant.

768
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:50.960
<v Speaker 2>What was it that you're right, Covenant?

769
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:54.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I fucking hate those movies, like I hate this

770
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:57.000
<v Speaker 5>whole what I love about the Aliens, and I will

771
00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:59.719
<v Speaker 5>continue to ignore those movies. I love the idea that

772
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:02.079
<v Speaker 5>we you know, where they're from, there's a planet of

773
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.119
<v Speaker 5>them somewhere and they are the apex predator of the

774
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.719
<v Speaker 5>universe and don't go there, and all of the love

775
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:13.760
<v Speaker 5>Craftian kind of connotations involved with them, and instead Ridley sconsin, No,

776
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:17.159
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna do this like bullshit nineteen sixties concept of

777
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:21.239
<v Speaker 5>space seeding, you know, like a Chariots of the gods man, Like,

778
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:23.239
<v Speaker 5>that's what you came up with. And by the way,

779
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.360
<v Speaker 5>you didn't really come up with it either by come

780
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 5>up with stolen.

781
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Things you did it.

782
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:28.840
<v Speaker 5>No, he didn't come up with any of that. He

783
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 5>didn't come up with anything very angry, and either he

784
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:34.440
<v Speaker 5>direct one movie, like, why is he charting the course

785
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:36.400
<v Speaker 5>for the rest of these films? And why is he

786
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:39.760
<v Speaker 5>charting their mythology? He's a fucking hired gun man. He

787
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:41.639
<v Speaker 5>was a fucking shoe salesman before this.

788
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Dan O'Bannon is turning over in his grave base.

789
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:47.559
<v Speaker 5>Now Dan O'Bannon is going, where's my check?

790
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Motherfucker?

791
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:50.920
<v Speaker 1>That's on point for mister O'Bannon. But it was nice

792
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:52.079
<v Speaker 1>seeing his name on screen.

793
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it always is.

794
00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:55.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, always always is. But at the same time, I

795
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>could just sit and think to myself, what would he

796
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>think about this movie? Kim and Ron Shoes said, really

797
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:03.920
<v Speaker 1>nailed it with that first movie, so hardcore, and then

798
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to watch this movie just again succeed in what it

799
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>could succeed at, but ultimately, in my mind flail a

800
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:12.079
<v Speaker 1>lot of the time because some of the things that

801
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:14.840
<v Speaker 1>happen in this movie are flailing in a way that's

802
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:18.280
<v Speaker 1>like flailing upward for people, clearly because we are I

803
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:20.039
<v Speaker 1>would say that I might be the most positive of

804
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.159
<v Speaker 1>the three of us on the movie, but we are

805
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>in a minority here of finding this movie to be

806
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:28.159
<v Speaker 1>not as great, because most everybody I've talked to and

807
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:31.280
<v Speaker 1>or seen online is enjoyed this movie a lot more

808
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:33.800
<v Speaker 1>than either of us. Either three of us did, which

809
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:38.159
<v Speaker 1>is not surprising. But at the same time, I wonder

810
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:43.079
<v Speaker 1>the amount of experience and exposure and yearning and wanting

811
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 1>that people who have seen these movies, even within the

812
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:48.639
<v Speaker 1>mainstream media and critics, are watching it and have a

813
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:50.519
<v Speaker 1>frame of reference for the other things outside of just

814
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw Aliens once and I know that line is

815
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 1>in Aliens. This to your point, father alone, this world

816
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that was created is so deep and interesting and it

817
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:00.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to be exc like. The parts of it

818
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>that are deep and interesting are not the parts that

819
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>need to be explained. Those are the things that to

820
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.079
<v Speaker 1>your point, I never asked, where the fuck did the

821
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.280
<v Speaker 1>alien come from? Why does anyone care? It's the whole

822
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>prequelization of shit. Thanks to George Lucas and Friends and

823
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Indiana Jones, the last Crusade. Oh, how did Harris and

824
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:18.199
<v Speaker 1>Vord get that scar on his chin? How did he

825
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>get his hat? How did he get his whip? That's

826
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.280
<v Speaker 1>five minutes five to ten minutes of that movie. And

827
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 1>that's the perfect prequel version of anything I think I've

828
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>ever seen because it's connected to a movie, it's not

829
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:32.159
<v Speaker 1>the whole goddamn movie, And that's This entire movie is

830
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:35.320
<v Speaker 1>just more of like, where did the alien come from?

831
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.079
<v Speaker 1>It's weird that I haven't fucking cared this whole time

832
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:41.559
<v Speaker 1>movie that didn't really care. Prometheus and Covenant. The parts

833
00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of those movies that I have enjoyed are Michael Fassbender's performance,

834
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:48.320
<v Speaker 1>because he's great in those movies. That's really not up

835
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:50.639
<v Speaker 1>for debate in terms of those movies. That's the quality

836
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>at the center of those movies is his performance and

837
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the way he interacts with the other people. But the

838
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:56.679
<v Speaker 1>alien of it all in those movies. I didn't want

839
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to know where Hannibal Lecter came from. I don't want

840
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to know Darth Vader's backstory. I don't want to know

841
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:03.320
<v Speaker 1>any of this shit because it doesn't fucking matter, and

842
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>for the longest time, nobody else thought it did. I

843
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:07.119
<v Speaker 1>do you like Boba Fett.

844
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to show you where Boba Fett came from.

845
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:11.599
<v Speaker 2>He was a little kid and his father died and

846
00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:12.639
<v Speaker 2>he was really shad.

847
00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Such a cool idea for a movie.

848
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Please.

849
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 5>Pat always loved all the mystery of the space Jockey

850
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:21.840
<v Speaker 5>and the eggs and was he transporting them?

851
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Was he trying to get rid of them? Who set

852
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:25.639
<v Speaker 2>up that beacon? Was it him? Who is that guy?

853
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Is he an elephant? Yeah?

854
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

855
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:31.800
<v Speaker 5>It's just mystery upon mystery, and I'm fucking totally cool

856
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:32.199
<v Speaker 5>with that.

857
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:36.280
<v Speaker 2>How does Rook work without that thing that they give

858
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:37.559
<v Speaker 2>to Andy?

859
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:41.480
<v Speaker 5>That's a good question that they probably don't have an answer.

860
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>For Space Magic.

861
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.679
<v Speaker 2>I like that whole transformation of Andy when they put

862
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:49.440
<v Speaker 2>that new chip in, and I like when he looks

863
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 2>up at the sky and his eyes go white and

864
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.400
<v Speaker 2>his hands are tremoring, and I'm just like, that's a

865
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:56.880
<v Speaker 2>really cool moment for me. There's some there are some

866
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:01.440
<v Speaker 2>good moments into this in this But otherwise, and does

867
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 2>it say tilts on his eyeballs when it goes up

868
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:05.679
<v Speaker 2>as well? That's what it reminded me of.

869
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Warning.

870
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But things like the creature design for the baby alien, Like,

871
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.239
<v Speaker 2>I tend to agree with you, Father Malone. That looks

872
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.519
<v Speaker 2>a little cooler than the skull faced alien that we

873
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:20.599
<v Speaker 2>had in Resurrection. It reminds me a lot of the

874
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:23.840
<v Speaker 2>aliens that were in Close Encounters of the third kind,

875
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.760
<v Speaker 2>like that last wave of them that come out that

876
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:30.159
<v Speaker 2>are so tall and spin ly. And there's a silhouette

877
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:32.000
<v Speaker 2>where I was just like, Oh, that reminds me of that.

878
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:34.400
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty cool. But then I'm like, oh, and it's

879
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 2>got the engineer's face from Covenant and Prometheus. Fuck me.

880
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was when the reveal happened at the end

881
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.360
<v Speaker 1>of the movie, I said, audibly, along with several other

882
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:48.559
<v Speaker 1>people in the theaters, what the fuck? Because it was

883
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I disagree with y'all. It was a worse design than

884
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Resurrection because it is a full CGI creature that anytime

885
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:58.840
<v Speaker 1>they cut to it, it looks like CGI and there

886
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:01.519
<v Speaker 1>I will be that one time right now and go.

887
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 1>This was where practical effects would have helped because it

888
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.159
<v Speaker 1>was already low lighting. Anyways, Guys, like you're in a

889
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.480
<v Speaker 1>dark hold of a ship like this, I get it,

890
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Like you can do more with CGI than you can

891
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:14.519
<v Speaker 1>do practically. I appreciate it, and I know that there

892
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:18.840
<v Speaker 1>is a gentleman who plays the hybrid in this movie,

893
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>so there is a person in a suit, but it's

894
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>also a lot of it. That's Cgi.

895
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.159
<v Speaker 5>That's the thing, Like that would have solved mean Home

896
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:28.599
<v Speaker 5>problem too. It's we're not misusing his image or anything.

897
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 5>We're using that character based on his look and then

898
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:33.679
<v Speaker 5>to sound alike like I would have bought a fucking

899
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:38.079
<v Speaker 5>if you've ever seen any of the animatronics at Disneyland,

900
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.320
<v Speaker 5>like fucking malfunction, it's fantastic, Like they could have done

901
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:46.119
<v Speaker 5>a lot with that within a share or Rook May Rook.

902
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:49.920
<v Speaker 2>As soon as Rook came on screen, I was very

903
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:53.440
<v Speaker 2>audibly upset. I was just like, no, just because it

904
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:56.320
<v Speaker 2>just looked so bad with the way that his head moves,

905
00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:59.840
<v Speaker 2>because I understand his head's down on his chest, do

906
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the whole like Bishop from Alien three thing where he's

907
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:06.159
<v Speaker 2>half the half there, half not. He did such a

908
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.239
<v Speaker 2>better job with Bishop with the way that they did that.

909
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:11.519
<v Speaker 2>And I understand that Lance Hendrickson was still a relatively

910
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:15.199
<v Speaker 2>young man and still alive, whereas with Ian Holme it's

911
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.519
<v Speaker 2>been gone for a few years. But do you know

912
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 2>what this opens up. We can now redo the habbit

913
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:24.400
<v Speaker 2>with Ian Holme as Bill bo Baggins. This is gonna

914
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:25.159
<v Speaker 2>be fantastic.

915
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Christ don't put that out into the fucking universe, Mike,

916
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Why would you do such a fucking I'm gonna show

917
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:38.320
<v Speaker 1>up on Rings of Power. Yeah, that's what I'm worried about, man,

918
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>And there he is. There's Bill bow walking around no no.

919
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:45.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh, just on Canny to beat the band.

920
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:49.000
<v Speaker 5>There's a research ship from Whaling New Twny and it

921
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:51.920
<v Speaker 5>is filled with the aliens. And if there's one thing

922
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.519
<v Speaker 5>Whaling New Tunny wants more than anything in the world,

923
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:59.000
<v Speaker 5>that's these aliens. And somehow it's just derelict hanging out

924
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:03.559
<v Speaker 5>above mining colony. They haven't come to get it. There's

925
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:06.679
<v Speaker 5>a dynamic that they could have explored. The Whalen Utani

926
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.079
<v Speaker 5>on the way kind of thinks something that they needed

927
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:11.760
<v Speaker 5>there other than rods to power their ship to get

928
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:14.039
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, maybe a plot or something.

929
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Where was the opposing force coming to get the aliens,

930
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>because that's a thing that was never really been explored

931
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:20.920
<v Speaker 1>in any of us. We have it a little bit

932
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:23.719
<v Speaker 1>at the end Alien three, not really in Resurrection because

933
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:26.519
<v Speaker 1>again this kind of rips off Resurrection that it's taking

934
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:28.760
<v Speaker 1>place on the space station where they were fucking around

935
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.880
<v Speaker 1>with the alien DNA. But Resurrection does it better because

936
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Resurrection shows us where the mutant aliens are hanging out

937
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and where the mutant Sigourney Weaver clones are. In this movie,

938
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's just perfect. It's still perfect. Everything's fine.

939
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:43.639
<v Speaker 1>The alien got loose and killed everybody, but it still

940
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:44.320
<v Speaker 1>looks normal.

941
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:49.239
<v Speaker 2>What why Rook should have been all about trying to

942
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:51.159
<v Speaker 2>figure out a way to get those aliens back to

943
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.519
<v Speaker 2>whaling Utani? And yeah, if there's power on the ship,

944
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:57.840
<v Speaker 2>and you see power on quite a few times, why

945
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:00.119
<v Speaker 2>don't we go ahead and just pilot the ship this

946
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.239
<v Speaker 2>whole rodmulus remiss thing or whatever. He can crawl around

947
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:06.480
<v Speaker 2>with his arms. We see that too. Why does he

948
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.239
<v Speaker 2>try to commandeer at the ship and take off with

949
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:11.559
<v Speaker 2>some of the face huggers in tow. They're gonna leave

950
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:12.519
<v Speaker 2>him alone.

951
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:14.519
<v Speaker 1>Because they don't care. And I don't know why they

952
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:17.639
<v Speaker 1>don't care. Because you have these franchises and you have

953
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:20.320
<v Speaker 1>these opportunities to do something with them, and you're spending money.

954
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.199
<v Speaker 1>You spend eighty million dollars.

955
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:22.280
<v Speaker 2>On this movie.

956
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.840
<v Speaker 1>It's not nothing that the significant amount of money, at

957
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:28.039
<v Speaker 1>least to me, at least the way I look at

958
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:29.880
<v Speaker 1>the world. Only eighty million dollars a lot of money

959
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.199
<v Speaker 1>to spend. And this is the best that you can

960
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:35.519
<v Speaker 1>do is just playing the discordant tones of Alien over

961
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and over again, Bob, just like playing it on a

962
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:39.280
<v Speaker 1>piano and being like this is a new song, Like, no,

963
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:42.119
<v Speaker 1>we've heard this before. Don't try to lie to us,

964
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:44.679
<v Speaker 1>don't try to put one over on me. Because here's

965
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the other thing. At the end of this movie, the

966
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:49.440
<v Speaker 1>story's over, thankfully. That's the one saving grace in all

967
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 1>of this is I don't they're what universe do we

968
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>need to see anymore with these characters? Oh, we don't,

969
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:55.119
<v Speaker 1>And that's good.

970
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:58.079
<v Speaker 2>You can do like andor and now do a prequel

971
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:02.320
<v Speaker 2>with Rain and Andy on the early days of.

972
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>This No wrong, God, No, we want to know why

973
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Andy the android is called that, and why is she

974
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.239
<v Speaker 1>called Rain? Just found out in the rain.

975
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the whole idea of them living on this

976
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:20.719
<v Speaker 2>shitthole planet and just being stuck in this never ending

977
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:23.039
<v Speaker 2>cycle and trying to break away from this. This is

978
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:27.079
<v Speaker 2>stuff I can relate to as an American. I'm like, okay,

979
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.639
<v Speaker 2>I get this whole thing. We're gonna keep moving the goalposts, Sanya.

980
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:33.519
<v Speaker 2>Pretty soon they're gonna raise a fucking retirement age and

981
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:35.400
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna change this role in that role. And it's

982
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.840
<v Speaker 2>just okay, I get it, and I get this so well.

983
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 2>But then once they make the decision, oh there's a

984
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:41.639
<v Speaker 2>ship up there, we're going to go up to the ship.

985
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 2>It's okay, cool boom. Five minutes later, we're off and

986
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:46.960
<v Speaker 2>that's it. And they just take off and like you said,

987
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:49.760
<v Speaker 2>it's okay, go someplace else. Then, you know, I don't

988
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:55.039
<v Speaker 2>get why you're so stuck on going to this space station. Okay, great,

989
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:57.840
<v Speaker 2>if it doesn't work out with these cryo tubes, you

990
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.239
<v Speaker 2>know what, they got enough power for three years. Let's

991
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:04.039
<v Speaker 2>go someplace that's three years close. I'm being a horrible person.

992
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm being awful.

993
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:08.840
<v Speaker 1>That's not what the script allowed them to do. That's

994
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>not how the script was written, Mike. That's someone said,

995
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:16.039
<v Speaker 1>let's just make this alien again. Let's just have them

996
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:18.320
<v Speaker 1>on a space station and have aliens running around, and

997
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the scariest part of the movie being the face huggers,

998
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:22.800
<v Speaker 1>because that is the most compelling part of this movie

999
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:25.760
<v Speaker 1>is that sequence that was in the trailer where they're

1000
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.880
<v Speaker 1>in the cryo room and there are quote something in

1001
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 1>the water and those things are the face huggers, And

1002
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that is the best scene in this entire movie. It

1003
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:39.639
<v Speaker 1>really is. It's compelling, it's different. There are some stakes,

1004
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:42.119
<v Speaker 1>there are some components going on, because there's the android

1005
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:44.039
<v Speaker 1>in there who's rebooting, and then there's the two other

1006
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:46.800
<v Speaker 1>guys whose names you couldn't get me to remember even

1007
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 1>if I tried. And yeah, and on top of everything else,

1008
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:51.599
<v Speaker 1>let's mention something else, something we haven't really talked about

1009
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:54.440
<v Speaker 1>alluded to it that the characters are fodder. Are there

1010
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:57.000
<v Speaker 1>any good death scenes in this movie, even with the

1011
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 1>usage of the way the aliens work other than is

1012
00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:02.039
<v Speaker 1>the chest burster scene in this movie good? Is a

1013
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.079
<v Speaker 1>question I want to ask, because I don't think it is.

1014
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:06.920
<v Speaker 1>They showed the entire thing in the trailer, and the

1015
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:08.280
<v Speaker 1>only thing they didn't show in the trailer is the

1016
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.119
<v Speaker 1>shot of the alien popping out of her chest, and

1017
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.679
<v Speaker 1>then when you see it, thoroughly underwhelming in a way

1018
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that I was not expecting. Given the guy who directed

1019
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:18.800
<v Speaker 1>this fucking movie and wrote it is the guy who

1020
00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:21.239
<v Speaker 1>had blood raining from the skies, like it's a fucking

1021
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Slayer song and evil dead, okay, and this is just

1022
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a little, just hatch of the alien popping out. What

1023
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:28.800
<v Speaker 1>in the fuck man for? Really, it's a waste of

1024
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:31.400
<v Speaker 1>time because then when we have the alien doing alien things,

1025
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:33.559
<v Speaker 1>there's not a big enough cast to see people getting

1026
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:36.400
<v Speaker 1>fucking oviscerated anyways, And we get a quick shot of

1027
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 1>one of the two guys getting murdered by an alien,

1028
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.159
<v Speaker 1>and it's like the movies rated PG. Thirteen and it

1029
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:44.199
<v Speaker 1>doesn't even want to show you what's happening with any

1030
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.400
<v Speaker 1>amount of detail, which, again not saying I need to

1031
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:48.920
<v Speaker 1>see guys heads exploding or anything, but the movies rated

1032
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>are you're clearly aware that you can do essentially whatever

1033
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:54.039
<v Speaker 1>the fuck you want. You're not, so I just don't

1034
00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:56.480
<v Speaker 1>understand why you're not, is probably what I'm getting at.

1035
00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Here's how excited for the movie I was.

1036
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 5>I avoided every tra I somehow managed to avoid yet

1037
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:06.079
<v Speaker 5>every piece of media. So with the axtray thing, when

1038
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:07.800
<v Speaker 5>she first picks it up, I was like, Wow, that's cool.

1039
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.119
<v Speaker 5>Well that's a cool piece of tech, and didn't think

1040
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:12.800
<v Speaker 5>it was gonna pay off, So that actually worked for me.

1041
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.679
<v Speaker 5>But when the little alien bursts out, yeah, I think

1042
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:19.039
<v Speaker 5>Alvarez was just trying to be different than the John

1043
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:23.559
<v Speaker 5>hurt one, and boy he existed. He succeeded. Talk about phallic.

1044
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, that was the most phallic chest burster I've

1045
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:32.000
<v Speaker 2>ever seen in my life. I know, there's basically a

1046
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:35.920
<v Speaker 2>foreskin out of a chest burster, but you get to see that,

1047
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:39.719
<v Speaker 2>you get to see the blue veins. I'm just like, Wow, Okay,

1048
00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:42.960
<v Speaker 2>we're just not hiding it anymore now, why I should it?

1049
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:46.599
<v Speaker 1>I like Zeppenises, I like to make every sing phallic.

1050
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Thanks hr.

1051
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:51.800
<v Speaker 5>But I will say about that chess burster scene, I

1052
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:54.840
<v Speaker 5>like the dynamics of what was going on in it

1053
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:58.199
<v Speaker 5>with the shuttle and then like slowly crashing. In fact,

1054
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:01.360
<v Speaker 5>one thing I really liked in the movie was all

1055
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:03.400
<v Speaker 5>of the space stuff, all of the ships and all

1056
00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:06.639
<v Speaker 5>of it all felt heavy. There was gravity to it all,

1057
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:10.519
<v Speaker 5>and it all felt very realistic and very of that universe.

1058
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:13.519
<v Speaker 5>So I think they succeeded one hundred percent there and

1059
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:14.800
<v Speaker 5>including in that sequence.

1060
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:18.480
<v Speaker 1>The influence of Ron Cobbs still looms large in this franchise,

1061
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:21.199
<v Speaker 1>thank god, because yeah, then while they may not be

1062
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:23.920
<v Speaker 1>kit bashing anymore with the ways that they're designing things,

1063
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:27.159
<v Speaker 1>they're kit bashing in three D rendering. Because yeah, everything

1064
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:31.199
<v Speaker 1>feels That's the thing about this movie. Everything feels proper alien.

1065
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Everything really does. Everything looks like alien, feels like alien.

1066
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:40.719
<v Speaker 1>It's just poorly executed. But it's a It's a beautiful movie.

1067
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Eighty million dollars produced by Disney. Oh your movie doesn't

1068
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:46.000
<v Speaker 1>look good. That's a bigger problem at this point, because

1069
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:48.880
<v Speaker 1>where did the money go? At least if we can see,

1070
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the visual effects look pretty good, the set design looks

1071
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:54.559
<v Speaker 1>pretty great, the production design and the costume design is great. Okay,

1072
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:57.199
<v Speaker 1>I can concede that there's a fair amount of money

1073
00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:00.400
<v Speaker 1>going into that. But again, a movie looking nice in

1074
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:03.159
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four that the big budget studio movie. I'm

1075
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:07.159
<v Speaker 1>sure Borderlands looked fine. Clearly wasn't a good movie and execution,

1076
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure it looked fine. But again, low of

1077
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:12.639
<v Speaker 1>low bars to cross.

1078
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:15.519
<v Speaker 5>Here's the other thing I like that, and this tying

1079
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:18.599
<v Speaker 5>back into what I said earlier about showing the aliens

1080
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:21.760
<v Speaker 5>and how intelligent they are. There's a scene where the

1081
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:25.400
<v Speaker 5>Android has given each of the characters new pulse rifles.

1082
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:29.199
<v Speaker 5>These are before the pulse rifles that the colonial Marines

1083
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:31.440
<v Speaker 5>will have fifty years from now. So now NERD's have

1084
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:33.679
<v Speaker 5>a whole new model. They have to go three D print.

1085
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:36.199
<v Speaker 5>But anyway, it gives them their guns and tells them

1086
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.440
<v Speaker 5>don't use them because they have acid blood and they'll

1087
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:40.639
<v Speaker 5>kill kill us all. And they say why do you

1088
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:42.440
<v Speaker 5>give them to us? And he says, I think they'll

1089
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:45.760
<v Speaker 5>think that it is a deterrent. And it is so

1090
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:48.639
<v Speaker 5>that one scene where there's like a group of full

1091
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:51.159
<v Speaker 5>grown aliens coming around the corner, climbing on the wall

1092
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:53.199
<v Speaker 5>and she holds up the gun and they all pause.

1093
00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:58.119
<v Speaker 5>That scene somehow that the image of them like pausing

1094
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:00.199
<v Speaker 5>and waiting, and I don't know, I thought that was

1095
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:05.039
<v Speaker 5>really evocative, like really like worthy of the rest of

1096
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:07.639
<v Speaker 5>the series of movies, like the things with the actual

1097
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:10.760
<v Speaker 5>adult alien in this movie, like I've knocked my socks off,

1098
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:12.599
<v Speaker 5>it's just everything else hanging on.

1099
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:13.239
<v Speaker 2>It is bad.

1100
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:15.280
<v Speaker 5>But I will say this because I think I did

1101
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:18.920
<v Speaker 5>like this movie more than you, Because I will never

1102
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.199
<v Speaker 5>watch Prometheus or Covenant again, and I will watch this again,

1103
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:24.679
<v Speaker 5>at least for what we're what we were just talking

1104
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:28.119
<v Speaker 5>about the production design and like spending two hours in

1105
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:28.679
<v Speaker 5>this world.

1106
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I will watch it again.

1107
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I can't argue that.

1108
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the performance that Andy Gibbs is enough

1109
00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:38.840
<v Speaker 2>to possibly bring me back. And there's a few things.

1110
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I thought. It was interesting that we're trying to fight

1111
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Aliens with cold rather than fire, which again takes me

1112
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:49.239
<v Speaker 2>back to Alien Resurrection with the little bread dwarf machine

1113
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.000
<v Speaker 2>that he's got where it sprays them with the cold stuff,

1114
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.079
<v Speaker 2>and then what she tries to use it again later on

1115
00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:59.920
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't work, Like, Okay, great, I thought we were

1116
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.039
<v Speaker 2>going to have instead of flamethrowers, we're going to have

1117
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:07.159
<v Speaker 2>ice throwers or prayo fuel, which apparently is very cold.

1118
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:09.039
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, all right, great.

1119
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:11.199
<v Speaker 1>You know in space no one can hear you.

1120
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:15.000
<v Speaker 2>There are some interesting things in this film, but I

1121
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:17.239
<v Speaker 2>don't think it's enough for me. It's more interesting and

1122
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:20.920
<v Speaker 2>more enjoyable. And I actually for all of my complaints

1123
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:23.960
<v Speaker 2>about not knowing these characters, when you get to Covenant,

1124
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:27.760
<v Speaker 2>other than David, I don't know any of those people whatsoever.

1125
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like hard pressed to even remember. I think what

1126
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:34.800
<v Speaker 2>doctor Manhattan was one of the scientists and Danny McBride

1127
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.920
<v Speaker 2>and then poor James Franco just gets all the scenes

1128
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:40.920
<v Speaker 2>cut out. It's otherwise I'm just left with the lady

1129
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:46.039
<v Speaker 2>with the dark hair, and yeah, that's all about I remember.

1130
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Or Katharine Waterston was just in big franchise movies there

1131
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:50.920
<v Speaker 1>for a while and they were not good because she

1132
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:53.960
<v Speaker 1>was also the female lead in those Fantastic Beast movies

1133
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:56.679
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, oh man, I feel so bad for you.

1134
00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Sam Waterston's daughter is just getting She's like the female

1135
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Idris Elba. Can you be in something good that the

1136
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:05.039
<v Speaker 1>big budget thing as opposed to just being good in

1137
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:06.960
<v Speaker 1>all the non big budget stuff you're in.

1138
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:12.639
<v Speaker 5>Because he's Shaw, we want to love you. Stop picking

1139
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:13.960
<v Speaker 5>these franchises.

1140
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:15.239
<v Speaker 1>What is wrong with you?

1141
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm rewatching the slot slight version and just even in

1142
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:24.119
<v Speaker 2>that shitty video quality, that Ian Holmes ness of it

1143
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:27.159
<v Speaker 2>is just it really disturbs me. I don't tend to

1144
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.880
<v Speaker 2>just focus on just how bad CG can get, but

1145
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:34.119
<v Speaker 2>this just really hurts to watch.

1146
00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:38.519
<v Speaker 1>Remember those sales commercials with Humphrey Bogart. Oh god, yeah,

1147
00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:41.400
<v Speaker 1>remember that's where this all started. That was like the

1148
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:44.199
<v Speaker 1>initial onus behind this is like, can we have dead

1149
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>people sell rings, and now can we have dead people

1150
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:50.480
<v Speaker 1>be in movies and pay some dude like sag Minimum.

1151
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.400
<v Speaker 1>He's into the work of a real actor, because that's

1152
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:58.199
<v Speaker 1>the thing. Daniel Betts does the voice for Ian Holmes character,

1153
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:02.320
<v Speaker 1>because there's someone doing an Ian Holmes impersonation. He's great.

1154
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 1>It's just sad that there's all this other stuff surrounding

1155
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:08.840
<v Speaker 1>it because I just, yeah, I don't under would it

1156
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:10.679
<v Speaker 1>would not It have been enough to just have the

1157
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:12.559
<v Speaker 1>voice of Ian Holme coming out of a robot that

1158
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.280
<v Speaker 1>looks different and the people that get it just be like, oh, okay,

1159
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:16.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like an Ian Holme thing as it was, just

1160
00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:20.039
<v Speaker 1>like it is Ian home on the screen. Please acknowledge.

1161
00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:22.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. Please stop forcing this down my

1162
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:25.480
<v Speaker 1>throat like a fucking face hugger's too, don't do it.

1163
00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:29.000
<v Speaker 2>And had they moved on to another model, because that's

1164
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:32.440
<v Speaker 2>the thing with Alien three, the whole thing of Bishop

1165
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:36.199
<v Speaker 2>coming back and it's oh, is this actually Bishop? No,

1166
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:38.440
<v Speaker 2>it can't be Bishop. So who is this guy? Is

1167
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:41.199
<v Speaker 2>this the guy that Bishop was based on? Or is

1168
00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:44.559
<v Speaker 2>this another android that look or sorry, artificial person that

1169
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:47.679
<v Speaker 2>looks like Bishop? And I like that they leave it

1170
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:49.559
<v Speaker 2>a little bit vague there, but then in this one

1171
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:52.519
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh no, they just have models and they

1172
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:55.960
<v Speaker 2>all look alike. Like, so we're doing a little Picard

1173
00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:57.360
<v Speaker 2>season one thing here.

1174
00:58:57.440 --> 00:58:59.320
<v Speaker 1>And isn't Father Malone birkt me if I'm wrong. That's

1175
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:01.599
<v Speaker 1>in Isolation. All the robots look the same, all the

1176
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:02.719
<v Speaker 1>synthetics look the same.

1177
00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:04.239
<v Speaker 2>I was just thinking that.

1178
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Actually it's like a plastic like a plastic burn mask

1179
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:09.800
<v Speaker 1>just over a robot body. It's just it's literally the

1180
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 1>CPR dummies.

1181
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:15.559
<v Speaker 5>Crash to the dummies basically. Yeah, yeah, and they're horrifying.

1182
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fucking they're more scary that. Here's the thing, Alien Isolation.

1183
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:22.679
<v Speaker 1>It's a great Alien game, but the fucking robots are

1184
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:24.639
<v Speaker 1>more horrifying than the alien is. They kill you in

1185
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:27.440
<v Speaker 1>two hits. Whack you twice and you're dead.

1186
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:31.480
<v Speaker 5>No disagree. I think they are very scary. But there

1187
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:34.159
<v Speaker 5>is nothing made me more frightened of the other than

1188
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:36.920
<v Speaker 5>the original movie of the Alien than playing that game.

1189
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.920
<v Speaker 5>You hear it coming, man, they just hied and you

1190
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:43.320
<v Speaker 5>pray because it knows you're that. It's really scary.

1191
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:46.119
<v Speaker 1>Hiding in the lockers and watching it walking around in

1192
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the room and you can move back in the locker

1193
00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:51.480
<v Speaker 1>too to pull yourself back away from it. Yeah, video

1194
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:54.000
<v Speaker 1>games are the superior art form for certain things. They

1195
00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:56.760
<v Speaker 1>just are. And with this Alien kind of is made

1196
00:59:57.519 --> 00:59:59.760
<v Speaker 1>for that kind of story to be interacted with in

1197
00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a way that is more closely tied to the person

1198
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:06.480
<v Speaker 1>having the experience is interacting with the alien directly. And

1199
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what Alien as a franchise because always wanted is

1200
01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:10.840
<v Speaker 1>to put you in the shoes of the people there,

1201
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:13.840
<v Speaker 1>and by having it be just a spaceship with a

1202
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:16.400
<v Speaker 1>small amount of people, you can make that feel like

1203
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:19.159
<v Speaker 1>anywhere else other than space where you couldn't run away.

1204
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 1>An Alien isolation captures that in a way that yeah,

1205
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:24.880
<v Speaker 1>like we've already alluded to, nothing else really ever has,

1206
01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and now this is the first thing that's tried to

1207
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:31.000
<v Speaker 1>even and it fails. It really fails in terms of

1208
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:35.800
<v Speaker 1>just being a worthwhile sequel to Alien. It just ends

1209
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:40.159
<v Speaker 1>up being a sequel to everything, not specifically Alien, which

1210
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:43.360
<v Speaker 1>is fine, but nobody asked for that. That was a

1211
01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:46.480
<v Speaker 1>choice that was made specifically by the writers and directors

1212
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and producers of the film.

1213
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:51.000
<v Speaker 5>Okay, here's what I'm asking for. Here are my two ideas.

1214
01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:54.440
<v Speaker 5>If anyone from the franchise is listening, make these movies.

1215
01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:57.119
<v Speaker 5>I would like to see a movie made from the

1216
01:00:57.159 --> 01:00:58.320
<v Speaker 5>alien point of view.

1217
01:00:58.559 --> 01:00:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, in a violent nature.

1218
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:04.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Like I'd like to, yes exactly, like where days

1219
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:07.760
<v Speaker 5>we see how horrible we are to them. Like, I'd

1220
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:10.639
<v Speaker 5>like that movie. I would also like a Predator style movie.

1221
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:12.599
<v Speaker 5>You want to do it on a space station, put

1222
01:01:12.599 --> 01:01:15.000
<v Speaker 5>it wherever you want. I want to see one person

1223
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:19.440
<v Speaker 5>against an alien. They're hunting each other for the entire movie,

1224
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:21.679
<v Speaker 5>like the stuff I was talking about then, I like

1225
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:23.079
<v Speaker 5>in the movie every time we get to see them

1226
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:26.199
<v Speaker 5>like plotting and scheming and like being more than just

1227
01:01:26.239 --> 01:01:28.280
<v Speaker 5>the sort of beast that they look like. I'd like

1228
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:31.519
<v Speaker 5>to see that like throughout a movie, like setting traps

1229
01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:33.519
<v Speaker 5>and doing shit. That could be really fun.

1230
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:37.679
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, the alien comes up and opens up its mouth

1231
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:39.400
<v Speaker 2>and the second side of Jaws is there, and the

1232
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:41.159
<v Speaker 2>guy just goes clever. Girl.

1233
01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about this last night with Ryan from

1234
01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Someone's Favorite Productions, Like where does this go from here?

1235
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I think is ultimately like the final question to answer here,

1236
01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the kind of big thing to think about, because, like

1237
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I alluded to the way this movie ends, there's no

1238
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:56.840
<v Speaker 1>reason to return to these characters. There's nothing there. There's

1239
01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:59.599
<v Speaker 1>no cliff and there's no overt cliffhanger like at the

1240
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:02.079
<v Speaker 1>end of Covenant, which is clearly never going to be

1241
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:05.480
<v Speaker 1>resolved at this which is perfectly fine. But this movie

1242
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:07.920
<v Speaker 1>just ends and it's they're not drifting out through space

1243
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:11.719
<v Speaker 1>like alien or Aliens. It's just they're going to Yuvanga

1244
01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:14.440
<v Speaker 1>or wherever the fuck they're going, and they'll get there

1245
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and they'll be fine and whatever. I don't care about

1246
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:18.719
<v Speaker 1>their story, So where does it go from here? There?

1247
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:22.360
<v Speaker 1>My mind goes immediately too. They're just gonna make aliens again,

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01:02:23.079 --> 01:02:24.239
<v Speaker 1>and like, why haven't they?

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01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Apparently they're supposed to make something called Alien Earth after.

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01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:30.440
<v Speaker 1>They showed a preview for that, and in my theater,

1251
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:32.840
<v Speaker 1>actually I wanted to ask you guys about that. So

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01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:35.119
<v Speaker 1>there was it was like a three or four second

1253
01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:38.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe ten at the most teaser, and it was the

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01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:41.119
<v Speaker 1>shot of the Earth being reflected on something. And then

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01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you realize as it's moving, the thing is moving up,

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01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that it's actually the reflection of the Earth on the

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01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:48.079
<v Speaker 1>top of the alien's carapace, like on the top of

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01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:50.400
<v Speaker 1>his head, and it moves up and he goes and

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01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:53.599
<v Speaker 1>it's Alien Earth somewhere twenty twenty five, and that's a

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01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Hulu thing. But and now they're finally taking the Aliens

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01:02:57.119 --> 01:02:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to Earth.

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01:02:58.199 --> 01:02:59.880
<v Speaker 5>Is this the end of that series?

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01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:00.159
<v Speaker 3>That?

1264
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:01.880
<v Speaker 5>What's the Noah Hawley is doing?

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01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:02.199
<v Speaker 2>No?

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01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:04.480
<v Speaker 1>That is that that? I believe that is the series?

1267
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Who cares?

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01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:08.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to watch it because it's like an alien universe.

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01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:12.480
<v Speaker 5>He actually knows it's not going to be the Earth

1270
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:14.239
<v Speaker 5>war that we want. It's not going to be the

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01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:15.280
<v Speaker 5>dark Horse comics.

1272
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:19.280
<v Speaker 2>No No, And they've been promising that since Alien three.

1273
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.039
<v Speaker 2>When they first had the posters for Alien three, it said,

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01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:25.360
<v Speaker 2>this time it's hiding in the most terrifying place of

1275
01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:28.559
<v Speaker 2>all I don't find I've said this many times before.

1276
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:31.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't find Sigourney Weaver's stomach to be that terrifying.

1277
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:33.599
<v Speaker 2>I figure it was going to be Earth, and they

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01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:35.960
<v Speaker 2>even had it was tied in with the poster or

1279
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:38.880
<v Speaker 2>with the really early teaser preview, and it was, oh,

1280
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:41.360
<v Speaker 2>this is going to be fantastic. And they've been on

1281
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Earth with Alien versus Predator and Alien what was it

1282
01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:50.400
<v Speaker 2>versus Predator requiem? That position nobody saw because it was

1283
01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:51.320
<v Speaker 2>so dark.

1284
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:51.840
<v Speaker 1>And not lit.

1285
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:54.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right. I went to the theater. I can't

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01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:58.000
<v Speaker 2>say I saw the movie, but yeah, it was. Oh god,

1287
01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:01.280
<v Speaker 2>that was awful. I really liked the first Alien Versus

1288
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Predator and that was cool that it was all isolated

1289
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:06.760
<v Speaker 2>and a little bit like the thing that we're doing

1290
01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:08.159
<v Speaker 2>this down in Antarctica.

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01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, this is guys, that's its

1292
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:13.119
<v Speaker 1>own fucking timeline too. By the way, that exists separate

1293
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:17.119
<v Speaker 1>from Alien and Predator. That is not They're not cannon either.

1294
01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Alien and AVP Requiem are their own things, separate from

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01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:22.199
<v Speaker 1>everything on top of everything else.

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01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:25.119
<v Speaker 2>And I'm okay with that. The thing that was getting

1297
01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:28.239
<v Speaker 2>me was this hole, we need to explain what Whalen

1298
01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:31.559
<v Speaker 2>and Utani are and that we have. Oh, mister Whalen's

1299
01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:34.519
<v Speaker 2>joining us. Oh, bring that box to mister Utani. I

1300
01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:36.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't give a shit, guys, just get

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01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:37.719
<v Speaker 2>the fuck on with it.

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01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:41.199
<v Speaker 1>I wonder why they've never done another colonial Marines thing,

1303
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Like why they've never just gone down that road of

1304
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:47.679
<v Speaker 1>all the things. Just get a bunch of semi charismatic

1305
01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:50.400
<v Speaker 1>actors together, throw them into an Alien's esque setting, and

1306
01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:52.840
<v Speaker 1>just have the radio silence guys who did those Scream

1307
01:04:52.920 --> 01:04:55.800
<v Speaker 1>sequels and Abigail, have them do it. It'll be they

1308
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:58.400
<v Speaker 1>know how to work and write for the ensemble cast

1309
01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:00.760
<v Speaker 1>of people, clearly, and they could do it. And look,

1310
01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:03.519
<v Speaker 1>they actually have a sense of fun to what they

1311
01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:05.519
<v Speaker 1>do as opposed to it being just grim dark and series.

1312
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying Alien Romulus was grim darkin series, but

1313
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:10.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to be Alien, it's not trying to be Aliens.

1314
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:12.679
<v Speaker 1>There's not necessarily the sense of fun that you get

1315
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:15.280
<v Speaker 1>from Aliens, which is I think a action and fun

1316
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:17.920
<v Speaker 1>movie in a lot of ways that almost nothing else

1317
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:20.400
<v Speaker 1>in the franchise ever gets to because everything else is

1318
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:22.079
<v Speaker 1>doing its own thing or trying to just be a

1319
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:24.719
<v Speaker 1>horror movie. I think that's where this needs to go.

1320
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Take that and just do the Aliens thing again. Why not?

1321
01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:30.199
<v Speaker 1>What's the worst that can happen? You get a entertaining

1322
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:34.679
<v Speaker 1>action movie with semi charismatic actors or really charismatic actors

1323
01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:36.639
<v Speaker 1>fighting aliens for two hours. I mean it worked for

1324
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:38.639
<v Speaker 1>James Cameron. You're telling me someone hasn't thought in the

1325
01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:41.320
<v Speaker 1>last forty years to just do that again. I don't

1326
01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:43.360
<v Speaker 1>get it. Alien, But why do we need to redo

1327
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Alien why not just redo aliens? Is there not more

1328
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:49.320
<v Speaker 1>room with that to do more? No, okay, we'll just

1329
01:05:49.599 --> 01:05:51.599
<v Speaker 1>have them shooting aliens a little bit in this movie

1330
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:54.639
<v Speaker 1>that's evocative of aliens, not really, but in the scheme

1331
01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:57.119
<v Speaker 1>of this movie versus Alien. Yes, they have guns in

1332
01:05:57.159 --> 01:06:00.000
<v Speaker 1>this movie. They're shooting aliens. That never happens in Alien

1333
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:02.239
<v Speaker 1>and he literally goes, what does he say, He's rig

1334
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:04.400
<v Speaker 1>up some of those incinerators, which that line always made

1335
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:06.079
<v Speaker 1>me think these aren't even a thing that they're ever

1336
01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:08.920
<v Speaker 1>using for anything other than a technical purpose. It's not

1337
01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:10.079
<v Speaker 1>to defend themselves.

1338
01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:12.800
<v Speaker 2>So oh yeah, they're in a cargo ship. They don't

1339
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:14.320
<v Speaker 2>need yippins exactly.

1340
01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:17.880
<v Speaker 1>It's okay. Aliens is such a fun movie because now

1341
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:21.159
<v Speaker 1>the Aliens are the ones that are outmatched, until you

1342
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:24.360
<v Speaker 1>realize that's not the case so clearly. But that's because

1343
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:27.719
<v Speaker 1>James Cameron actually took a right instead of going left.

1344
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:30.320
<v Speaker 1>And I want someone to do that with this franchise

1345
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:33.119
<v Speaker 1>at this point, because it's not that the Aliens aren't scary,

1346
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:36.199
<v Speaker 1>far from it, but the Alien has been scary in

1347
01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:39.199
<v Speaker 1>other things so successfully you don't think anyone else can

1348
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:41.960
<v Speaker 1>do it as well. I mean clearly with something this

1349
01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:45.320
<v Speaker 1>they tried and think. Sure, it's scary, it's entertaining, but

1350
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the original Alien will never be matched in actually being

1351
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:53.760
<v Speaker 1>unsettling and creepy and disturbing and creating a sense of

1352
01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:55.920
<v Speaker 1>dread throughout the movie that can't be escaped because you're

1353
01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:59.440
<v Speaker 1>on a fucking space station cargo ship. However, whatever it is.

1354
01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:01.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but this one could have gotten there had it

1355
01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:04.239
<v Speaker 5>not been saddled with all of the worst characters and

1356
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:06.760
<v Speaker 5>all of the sort of bullshit fan service and all

1357
01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:08.079
<v Speaker 5>that kind of nonsense.

1358
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Just as close as it's gotten since Alien.

1359
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:11.480
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to take a right turn as well. But

1360
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:13.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't think we need to make Aliens again. I

1361
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:16.599
<v Speaker 5>want them to do something interesting that we haven't seen before.

1362
01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:20.039
<v Speaker 5>Stop fucking echoing all of the shit from the past.

1363
01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:22.119
<v Speaker 5>We've been there already, Do something new.

1364
01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I have an idea here. What if Kaylee, Spanny and

1365
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Andy there was a face hugger on board, and let's

1366
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:33.440
<v Speaker 1>say that they crashed on a wood planet. Okay, and

1367
01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:36.320
<v Speaker 1>let's say that the face hugger got Kaye Spanny. How

1368
01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:38.199
<v Speaker 1>would you feel about that? Father Along two close to

1369
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Alien three, I.

1370
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Would you know? What I would ask.

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01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:45.800
<v Speaker 5>Everything after aliens doesn't make any sense to me, because

1372
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:49.559
<v Speaker 5>how does an alien get on the fucking Silaca.

1373
01:07:49.639 --> 01:07:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Magic plot armor an egg?

1374
01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:55.519
<v Speaker 5>Don't they show eggs falling over with the wood flames

1375
01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:57.840
<v Speaker 5>covering and stuff. How did they get there? The Queen,

1376
01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:00.960
<v Speaker 5>we say here, tear away from her Ova pod and

1377
01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:03.920
<v Speaker 5>come running after Ripley and then gets on the ship.

1378
01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Where did the fucking eggs come from?

1379
01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I wish I knew you would think that, of all

1380
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the things Ripley would do, she would make sure there's

1381
01:08:11.559 --> 01:08:15.840
<v Speaker 2>no goddamn aliens on that ship. Before they have motion trackers.

1382
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:17.000
<v Speaker 2>They would just walk around the ship.

1383
01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:20.560
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, smart characters acting stupid is a great way

1384
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:22.760
<v Speaker 1>to get your sequel to a movie rolling in the

1385
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:23.479
<v Speaker 1>wrong direction.

1386
01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:26.119
<v Speaker 2>That's this movie too. When they're trying to go through.

1387
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:28.000
<v Speaker 2>First off, it cracks me up that we're still using

1388
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:31.399
<v Speaker 2>fahrenheit in space here. That's fantastic to get the room

1389
01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:34.760
<v Speaker 2>up to ninety eight point six fahrenheit walk through this

1390
01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:37.600
<v Speaker 2>thing and then have your fucking radio on. And that

1391
01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:41.439
<v Speaker 2>doesn't immediately trigger because they're like, oh, they're attracted to sound,

1392
01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:44.079
<v Speaker 2>but really more it's the heat. So I'm like, oh,

1393
01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:46.720
<v Speaker 2>but yet he's just basically having a conversation with the

1394
01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:50.039
<v Speaker 2>pregnant lady the whole and I'm like, shut the fuck

1395
01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:51.680
<v Speaker 2>up and get out of there, you idiot.

1396
01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:54.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I thought just her through this speaker would be

1397
01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:57.439
<v Speaker 5>enough to trigger them speak. It would be him going

1398
01:08:57.479 --> 01:09:02.760
<v Speaker 5>please stop that scene. It should have been successfully, it

1399
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:05.920
<v Speaker 5>was not for me. Were the trek through face hugger hollow?

1400
01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was basically when they swim under the ship,

1401
01:09:10.119 --> 01:09:12.159
<v Speaker 2>not the Betty, I can't Betty was the ship that

1402
01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:15.239
<v Speaker 2>they came in on, but in Alien Resurrection, when they

1403
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:18.119
<v Speaker 2>go underneath and they're in the cafeteria coming up on

1404
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:20.199
<v Speaker 2>the other side, I'm like, oh, this is like that,

1405
01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:22.560
<v Speaker 2>like we have to go through this impossible area and

1406
01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:25.600
<v Speaker 2>we don't know what's gonna happen. But no, we'll fuck

1407
01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:26.159
<v Speaker 2>that up too.

1408
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Look it's gonna it's gonna check enough boxes for enough

1409
01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:30.039
<v Speaker 1>people and we are not.

1410
01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I've seen people like oh I'm going to

1411
01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:38.039
<v Speaker 2>see it for a third time today. I'm like, wow, okay, great.

1412
01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:42.119
<v Speaker 5>If we can get a Colonial Marines television series, it's

1413
01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:45.319
<v Speaker 5>like maybe just a limited show. I'm sure those Marines

1414
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:47.239
<v Speaker 5>font more than Aliens. They seem to have a history

1415
01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:50.000
<v Speaker 5>with aliens prior to the xeno More, I feel like

1416
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:53.199
<v Speaker 5>they were clearly unprepared for it, but it doesn't mean

1417
01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:55.119
<v Speaker 5>that they haven't tangled with other things.

1418
01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is this gonna be another bug hunt? You know?

1419
01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:00.560
<v Speaker 2>And then they've got that what is it art Arcturian

1420
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:03.960
<v Speaker 2>pussy that they're after? Doesn't matter if it's Arturian.

1421
01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man or woman apparently. Yeah. I think about that

1422
01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:09.800
<v Speaker 1>because I like, like, you've clearly alluded to an aliens

1423
01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:11.640
<v Speaker 1>in that in the hangar scene, they're like, it's another

1424
01:10:11.640 --> 01:10:13.840
<v Speaker 1>bug hunt. There might be a xenomorph, Okay, so they

1425
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:18.000
<v Speaker 1>know there's some awareness the term xenomorph. These guys don't

1426
01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:19.520
<v Speaker 1>just go a lot when they hear it. They're a

1427
01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:23.479
<v Speaker 1>little nonplussed, it would seem so, but again, xenomorphos Again.

1428
01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:25.960
<v Speaker 1>That's the other thing about this franchise that immediately, like

1429
01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:28.159
<v Speaker 1>when people are talking about it, like the xenomorph actually

1430
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:31.399
<v Speaker 1>is not the alien. That's just that's just the name

1431
01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.319
<v Speaker 1>that they're giving broadly to aliens in this series in general.

1432
01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:37.279
<v Speaker 1>The Xenomorph's not actually the name of the alien at all.

1433
01:10:37.359 --> 01:10:40.319
<v Speaker 1>It never has been. I think the one time it's

1434
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:43.960
<v Speaker 1>used in the entire original four movies. Is in aliens

1435
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.640
<v Speaker 1>when they say xenomorph because I guess James Cameron's like,

1436
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:49.840
<v Speaker 1>we have to say zeno more for whatever reason. But

1437
01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:52.399
<v Speaker 1>xenomorph is not the name of the alien. That's never

1438
01:10:52.439 --> 01:10:55.720
<v Speaker 1>been actually the name. That's just what they're talking about

1439
01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:58.479
<v Speaker 1>in that scene. But all aliens broadly in the Alien

1440
01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:00.399
<v Speaker 1>universe are zenomorphs because it's.

1441
01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:03.239
<v Speaker 5>That's because the alien was really selfish and he said,

1442
01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:07.319
<v Speaker 5>I'll just tank that alien. That's mine. Now, if you

1443
01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:09.920
<v Speaker 5>refer to an alien, you're talking about me, and you

1444
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:11.600
<v Speaker 5>know what, He's right, that's.

1445
01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:14.640
<v Speaker 2>That whole thing. Baby Yoda is not actually a Yoda.

1446
01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Yoda is a is something, but we don't know what

1447
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:21.319
<v Speaker 2>he is, and so that's not a baby Yoda. Come on, guys,

1448
01:11:21.439 --> 01:11:24.960
<v Speaker 2>it really makes me mad. Come on, just call him Grogu.

1449
01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Don't dead name Brogu. Wow here I am nepicking. I

1450
01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:30.920
<v Speaker 2>just feel like such an asshole.

1451
01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I hope we get more alien stuff. We clearly are,

1452
01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:40.079
<v Speaker 1>but maybe not this maybe not alien again, right? I

1453
01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:43.119
<v Speaker 1>just Predator has had, like all these movies have had

1454
01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:45.640
<v Speaker 1>so many missteps at this point. We have we haven't

1455
01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:48.199
<v Speaker 1>mentioned the one franchise that this does get compared to

1456
01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:50.199
<v Speaker 1>and I think now it's broken away from being compared

1457
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:52.439
<v Speaker 1>to it. But there was a time where this franchise

1458
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:55.199
<v Speaker 1>was compared to Terminator in the same breath.

1459
01:11:55.800 --> 01:11:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, has fought Aliens in the comics.

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01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:01.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they sure have. And I believe at one point

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01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:04.199
<v Speaker 1>the Terminator and the Alien and the Predator squared off

1462
01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:04.720
<v Speaker 1>with each other.

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01:12:05.439 --> 01:12:08.720
<v Speaker 5>Are you saying one is better than another? What are

1464
01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:10.119
<v Speaker 5>you saying one franchise is better?

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01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:12.199
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm saying that. But I think that Alien is

1466
01:12:12.279 --> 01:12:14.960
<v Speaker 1>as broken free from the problems that Terminator now has

1467
01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:17.840
<v Speaker 1>more than ever. But I don't think that's a broken

1468
01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:20.279
<v Speaker 1>free maybe a couple degrees, but I still think they're

1469
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:23.039
<v Speaker 1>still spinning in gravity about to slam into the same plan.

1470
01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:25.199
<v Speaker 1>I think Terminator is just a lot further along with

1471
01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:29.560
<v Speaker 1>how bad everything has been since Terminator two and how

1472
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:32.199
<v Speaker 1>many Terminator movies since you said it yourself, father, I'm like,

1473
01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:36.159
<v Speaker 1>since Aliens, none of this really has mattered in any

1474
01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:38.920
<v Speaker 1>substantive way to the point where they retcon the beginning

1475
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:40.600
<v Speaker 1>of Alien three. I don't know if you guys know

1476
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:43.319
<v Speaker 1>about that, but in the Alien Colonial Marines game, which

1477
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:47.439
<v Speaker 1>is Cannon, yeah, kicks, is still alive. Oh yeah, yeah,

1478
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:48.840
<v Speaker 1>like that's.

1479
01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Books Hicks and Newton are still alive.

1480
01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, it's Oh you mean the characters from Aliens,

1481
01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the second best movie in this franchise, they didn't deserve

1482
01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:57.319
<v Speaker 1>to die off screen? Really?

1483
01:12:57.520 --> 01:13:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? That is all such Hill and Geiler stuff. Walter Hill,

1484
01:13:01.640 --> 01:13:04.319
<v Speaker 2>I love a lot of his work, but him and

1485
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Aliens do not go together. Like, every while I was

1486
01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:10.680
<v Speaker 2>doing my research on Alien three, every bad decision was

1487
01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:11.840
<v Speaker 2>coming right from those two.

1488
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Geiler is such a fucking dick, and he tried so

1489
01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:17.760
<v Speaker 1>hard to make sure Dan O'Bannon didn't get a fucking credit.

1490
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:21.039
<v Speaker 1>And every time I see him on those documentaries that

1491
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I watch every now and then about this franchise, it

1492
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:25.920
<v Speaker 1>makes me so angry that they gave him any amount

1493
01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:27.279
<v Speaker 1>of screen time and he can just sit there and

1494
01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:29.720
<v Speaker 1>talk about this franchise like he has anything to do

1495
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:32.760
<v Speaker 1>with it other than being a fucking parasitic fish on

1496
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:34.880
<v Speaker 1>the side of a shark or whale, just hanging on

1497
01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:37.640
<v Speaker 1>while everybody else is going for a ride. Because yeah,

1498
01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:40.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. So much of this is just attributed

1499
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to idiots who have no idea what doing. But they

1500
01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:45.279
<v Speaker 1>were successful in other avenues. So they get to say

1501
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:47.119
<v Speaker 1>they have their saying that the fuck this shit.

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01:13:47.159 --> 01:13:49.640
<v Speaker 5>Come on, Look, there were a lot of contributors to

1503
01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:53.199
<v Speaker 5>that first Alien movie and what made it successful and

1504
01:13:53.399 --> 01:13:55.760
<v Speaker 5>to their credit, and I think it's Walter Hill more

1505
01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:59.239
<v Speaker 5>than Dave Geiler. He made it more, working class made it.

1506
01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:02.720
<v Speaker 5>They're like basically space starkers and give me my shares.

1507
01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:05.720
<v Speaker 5>Let's talk about the bonus situation that came from them,

1508
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:09.439
<v Speaker 5>and I appreciate that, but the rest of it's fucking

1509
01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:13.159
<v Speaker 5>obanon except for the chest burster. That's wrong. Let's choose it.

1510
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:16.760
<v Speaker 5>But then the next movie is a singular vision because

1511
01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:19.680
<v Speaker 5>Cameron writes and directs it. And then everything after that

1512
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:22.640
<v Speaker 5>is just stumbling and falling down because nobody has shown

1513
01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:24.880
<v Speaker 5>up and gone, here's what the movie needs to be.

1514
01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:27.680
<v Speaker 5>And then and them said, and them saying, okay, go

1515
01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:29.399
<v Speaker 5>ahead and do that. It's all my committee.

1516
01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Now the committee has spoken, and I guess they wanted

1517
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:34.239
<v Speaker 1>fan service until there's nothing else.

1518
01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:36.680
<v Speaker 2>If she don't like the comb bread either.

1519
01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Now me either, None of us do. God, but that

1520
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:43.279
<v Speaker 1>dipper bird, guys, I'm glad I saw it again in

1521
01:14:43.359 --> 01:14:46.039
<v Speaker 1>this series. I was wondering where it was this whole time.

1522
01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:47.880
<v Speaker 5>I think it's worth the watch. I don't think you

1523
01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:49.680
<v Speaker 5>should go out to theaters and see it. It's no

1524
01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:52.399
<v Speaker 5>worse than a couple of the other Alien movies. What's

1525
01:14:52.439 --> 01:14:55.720
<v Speaker 5>been passing for the movies. In my estimation, Hey.

1526
01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:57.479
<v Speaker 2>I would say, when it shows up on Hulu, go

1527
01:14:57.479 --> 01:14:59.359
<v Speaker 2>ahead and watch it the way it was intended to

1528
01:14:59.399 --> 01:14:59.880
<v Speaker 2>be watched.

1529
01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Watch it dumped on Hulu where it deserved to be. Yeah,

1530
01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm in agreement with y'all. I think if this is

1531
01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:09.840
<v Speaker 1>something you're really passionate and motivated about, if you're a

1532
01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:12.760
<v Speaker 1>fan of the Alien franchise, I think it might I

1533
01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:14.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think you're gonna be fifty to fifty.

1534
01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:15.840
<v Speaker 1>You might either be able to overlook some of the

1535
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:18.359
<v Speaker 1>stuff and really appreciate it. Because I have close friends

1536
01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that are big fans of the franchise that really enjoyed it,

1537
01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:23.840
<v Speaker 1>And then there's people like ourselves who are equally as

1538
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:26.279
<v Speaker 1>big fans of the franchise that did not enjoy it.

1539
01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Because it's not that we wanted something different, it's that

1540
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:30.479
<v Speaker 1>the movie should have known better than to do some

1541
01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of the things that just don't need to be trotted

1542
01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:35.439
<v Speaker 1>out again. At this point, in me at this point

1543
01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:37.399
<v Speaker 1>in the history of the franchise, because we've had It's

1544
01:15:37.399 --> 01:15:40.439
<v Speaker 1>not like Ghostbusters, where there's thirty years between the movies.

1545
01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:43.479
<v Speaker 1>There was an Alien movie that came out five years ago. Like,

1546
01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:47.199
<v Speaker 1>why are we doing SEQL legacy sequel baiting and fan

1547
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:50.159
<v Speaker 1>service shit when Alien movies have actually been coming out.

1548
01:15:50.239 --> 01:15:52.399
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make any sense. This is a sequel to Alien,

1549
01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:55.039
<v Speaker 1>is what this wants to be, and that's what it is.

1550
01:15:55.079 --> 01:15:56.800
<v Speaker 1>And in a lot of ways, it being a legacy

1551
01:15:56.840 --> 01:16:01.000
<v Speaker 1>sequel to Alien is the big overriding problem with this movie.

1552
01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:03.760
<v Speaker 1>If it had not been an a Alien legacy sequel,

1553
01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:06.079
<v Speaker 1>I think we would have enjoyed this movie a lot

1554
01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:07.960
<v Speaker 1>more because it would have been giving itself a lot

1555
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.520
<v Speaker 1>more room to do interesting things with And instead it

1556
01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:13.520
<v Speaker 1>just wants to be an Alien sequel, which is fine.

1557
01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I just I didn't want that.

1558
01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:18.039
<v Speaker 5>I think what we got here. I think you're right,

1559
01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:20.800
<v Speaker 5>both of you about the sort of the studio meddling.

1560
01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:24.560
<v Speaker 5>The more I think about it now, I think in

1561
01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:28.000
<v Speaker 5>it somewhere in between dealing with a studio that really

1562
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:30.520
<v Speaker 5>wants a hard reboot of this series and wants to

1563
01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:32.960
<v Speaker 5>bring back all the fans because they're trying to put

1564
01:16:33.039 --> 01:16:36.720
<v Speaker 5>distance between them and the fucking previous two Ridley Scott movies,

1565
01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:38.640
<v Speaker 5>like you have them on one side, and on the

1566
01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:41.600
<v Speaker 5>other side you have Ridley Scott, So like, how do

1567
01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:45.720
<v Speaker 5>you satisfy both those masters? And like, in that light,

1568
01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:48.520
<v Speaker 5>this is a tremendous success. But I would like to

1569
01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:51.600
<v Speaker 5>have seen what Fede Alvarez would have done without any

1570
01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:55.800
<v Speaker 5>fealty to either side. Just take the characters, take or

1571
01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:57.920
<v Speaker 5>take the alien, and then do whatever the hell you

1572
01:16:57.920 --> 01:16:59.640
<v Speaker 5>want with it. I want to see that movie very

1573
01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:00.319
<v Speaker 5>very much.

1574
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:03.640
<v Speaker 1>That's called twenty fourteen's Evil Dead. It really is. The

1575
01:17:03.680 --> 01:17:06.560
<v Speaker 1>amount of fan service in that movie is negligible at best.

1576
01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:09.720
<v Speaker 1>There's an ecronomicon and that's about it, and there's a

1577
01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:12.319
<v Speaker 1>cabin in the woods and that's about it. Right allsova.

1578
01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:15.680
<v Speaker 2>But to be fair, I had a post credit sequence

1579
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:17.920
<v Speaker 2>that was the only part of the movie I enjoyed.

1580
01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:20.319
<v Speaker 1>With ash at the end you mean, yeah.

1581
01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sorry, I'm not a big fan of that movie.

1582
01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:25.159
<v Speaker 1>I get it. I understand the original Evil Dead is

1583
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:27.960
<v Speaker 1>say I love it, I'm with you, I like I'm

1584
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:29.319
<v Speaker 1>with Father Malone. I like it a lot, But I

1585
01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:32.239
<v Speaker 1>can understand where someone like yourself, Mike, who's a fan

1586
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:35.119
<v Speaker 1>of the franchise as a whole. Similarly to this, either

1587
01:17:35.159 --> 01:17:36.720
<v Speaker 1>you're either gonna like it or you're not. There's not

1588
01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:39.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a lot of middle ground there, And I

1589
01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:42.119
<v Speaker 1>am with Father Malone. I like twenty fourteen's Evil Dead,

1590
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:44.760
<v Speaker 1>but it is the right way to do a legacy

1591
01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:48.760
<v Speaker 1>sequel without any of the fan baiting and nostalgic bullshit,

1592
01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:52.560
<v Speaker 1>because again, they didn't have they didn't have Bruce Campbell

1593
01:17:52.600 --> 01:17:55.359
<v Speaker 1>walk in stage right and be like, hey, everybody, it's me.

1594
01:17:55.680 --> 01:17:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm ash remember. Oh no, then that's the right way

1595
01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:01.520
<v Speaker 1>to do it. But that movis came at the very end.

1596
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:04.239
<v Speaker 2>He's just out of my way. I've handled these dead

1597
01:18:04.279 --> 01:18:05.319
<v Speaker 2>dits before.

1598
01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Just like Ghostbusters Afterlife, they just show up in the

1599
01:18:08.039 --> 01:18:10.079
<v Speaker 1>last frame of the movie to save the day. M

1600
01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:12.479
<v Speaker 1>hm great, I'm good.

1601
01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, I wanted to thank my co host on this

1602
01:18:14.399 --> 01:18:18.000
<v Speaker 2>episode this week where we are talking about alien rhyme miulss. So,

1603
01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:20.840
<v Speaker 2>mister Christashu, please tell us what are you up to

1604
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:21.640
<v Speaker 2>these days, sir?

1605
01:18:22.079 --> 01:18:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I am doing audio diversions over at weirdingwaymedia dot com. Well,

1606
01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the Culture Cast is in its tenth year, It's been

1607
01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:29.920
<v Speaker 1>a hell of a year for me personally, and I

1608
01:18:29.960 --> 01:18:31.680
<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to uphold my end of the bargain

1609
01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:33.600
<v Speaker 1>in terms of posting all the time. But that's okay.

1610
01:18:33.840 --> 01:18:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes life happens. But for the most part, Yeah, weirding

1611
01:18:36.359 --> 01:18:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Way Media is where you can find everything that I

1612
01:18:38.039 --> 01:18:40.560
<v Speaker 1>work on, other than one place, which is over at Patreon,

1613
01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:43.399
<v Speaker 1>where you can find ranking on Bond at the ten

1614
01:18:43.479 --> 01:18:45.760
<v Speaker 1>dollars level on Mike Patreon. In mine, which is once

1615
01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:48.359
<v Speaker 1>a month, we talk about James Bond movies and Father Malone.

1616
01:18:48.359 --> 01:18:50.199
<v Speaker 1>You're coming up on an episode here pretty quick. Two

1617
01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:52.319
<v Speaker 1>episodes from now, we're going to be talking about Live

1618
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:54.279
<v Speaker 1>and Let Die. So if that gives you an idea

1619
01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:56.479
<v Speaker 1>as to where we are on the Bond franchise run,

1620
01:18:57.159 --> 01:18:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that'll give you an idea of what you can expect

1621
01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:01.920
<v Speaker 1>when you go on over to our perspective patreons. So

1622
01:19:02.199 --> 01:19:04.680
<v Speaker 1>what about you, Father alone? What can people find and

1623
01:19:04.760 --> 01:19:06.239
<v Speaker 1>what can find it? Where can they find it?

1624
01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:10.239
<v Speaker 5>Mike, y'all, it's Weirdwaymedia dot com. Check out Midnight Viewing.

1625
01:19:10.840 --> 01:19:12.920
<v Speaker 5>That's my show over there. That is a twice a

1626
01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:16.359
<v Speaker 5>week show. Mondays is Father Malone's weekly round up where

1627
01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:21.520
<v Speaker 5>I do current and streaming titles and every Friday alternates

1628
01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:23.960
<v Speaker 5>between the horror anthology podcast, which I do with these

1629
01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:26.640
<v Speaker 5>two gentlemen. Right now, we're looking at Tales from the

1630
01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:29.680
<v Speaker 5>dark Side. In fact, this Friday we're starting off season

1631
01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:31.960
<v Speaker 5>two of Tales from the dark Side. And the other

1632
01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:34.359
<v Speaker 5>show is Anthologies Attack, which I do with co host

1633
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:38.039
<v Speaker 5>Antonio Lapour, where we look at anthologies of every variety.

1634
01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:40.399
<v Speaker 5>We just did pulp fiction and I actually don't know

1635
01:19:40.399 --> 01:19:42.560
<v Speaker 5>what we're doing next, but you can find us there.

1636
01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:45.039
<v Speaker 5>Find the midnight viewing. Oh go to if you go

1637
01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:48.239
<v Speaker 5>to patreon dot com slash fallom alone, you can subscribe

1638
01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:50.399
<v Speaker 5>or support me or whatever you want to do.

1639
01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:54.520
<v Speaker 1>The Madman that is Father Alone podcasting twice a week now,

1640
01:19:54.720 --> 01:19:56.319
<v Speaker 1>Holy fuck for a what?

1641
01:19:56.800 --> 01:19:57.359
<v Speaker 5>Wow?

1642
01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I thought I was busy, but apparently not.

1643
01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Apparently you're the one throwing down the gauntlet now.

1644
01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:06.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, god he good lord dude. Twice a week. It's

1645
01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:09.079
<v Speaker 1>a bit bit much, but kudos to you for making

1646
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:09.439
<v Speaker 1>it work.

1647
01:20:10.039 --> 01:21:07.399
<v Speaker 5>I'm very tired.

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01:21:38.920 --> 01:22:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Une