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<v Speaker 1>My Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Welcome to this Friday

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon in the Tri State rech Baseball get back out

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<v Speaker 1>of tonight in New York against the Metropolitans. Coverage begins

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<v Speaker 1>about six oh five tonight the last time. I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>my duty as a great American watching bright Barts and

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<v Speaker 1>other left wing websites, and I'm getting text from friends

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<v Speaker 1>of mine in Covington saying, you can't believe what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>on the suspension bridge. And so I tried to get

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<v Speaker 1>some video Facebook, et cetera. Couldn't locate a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I find out at ten o'clock news at all

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<v Speaker 1>Hell broke loose there was a protest. There were two

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<v Speaker 1>dueling protests yesterday. One was the July seventeenth issue relative

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<v Speaker 1>to a twenty first relative to the death of John Lewis.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one was the free the E Mom, Free

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<v Speaker 1>the e Mom that's in the Butler County jail. And

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<v Speaker 1>so at one point the one freeing the emon said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let the people of Kentucky know what our viewpoint is.

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<v Speaker 1>So they marched from from the riverbanks in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the suspension bridge, and they marched over the bridge in

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<v Speaker 1>mass some one to two hundred people singing we shall overcome,

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<v Speaker 1>mainly white old females who listen to NPR and a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of younger females with purple hair, and they discover

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<v Speaker 1>that the laws in Covington shutting down public thoroughfares are

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<v Speaker 1>not quite the same as shutting down thoroughfares in the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Cincinnati. Joining you and I now is Rob Sanders,

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<v Speaker 1>Kent County Prosecutor. First of all, if you can, Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>tell us what happened last night about between eight and

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<v Speaker 1>nine pm on the suspension bridge with these well intended

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<v Speaker 1>NPR listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Willie, I think you said it best when you said

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<v Speaker 2>all hell broke close, apparently because I don't know who

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<v Speaker 2>this emam is. I don't know that he's ever even

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<v Speaker 2>set foot in Kentucky, or what this protest about the

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<v Speaker 2>Butler County Jail and our good friend Sheriff Jones out there,

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<v Speaker 2>what that has to do with us on the south

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<v Speaker 2>side of the river or the Covington riverfront, or the

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<v Speaker 2>Covington police or anything that these protesters tried to involve

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<v Speaker 2>in their demonstration. But what I do know is that

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<v Speaker 2>they were blocking down or blocking all of the traffic

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<v Speaker 2>lanes on the suspension bridge, which of course is a

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<v Speaker 2>state route. It's Kentucky seventeen. It's a highly traveled roadway.

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<v Speaker 2>This was not in the middle of the night, of

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<v Speaker 2>the cover of darkness or anything like that. This is

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<v Speaker 2>while people were up and about and still doing business

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to get back and forth across the Ohio River,

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<v Speaker 2>and here they're trying to shut it down, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>is some form of civil disobedience. But part of the

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<v Speaker 2>problem with civil disobedience is when you start breaking laws.

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<v Speaker 2>At least in Kentucky, we enforce those laws. And so

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen people, at least fifteen people that I'm aware of,

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<v Speaker 2>were arrested and charged with an array of offenses for

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<v Speaker 2>everything from assaulting police officers to criminal mischief, to trespass,

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<v Speaker 2>to failure to disperse to rioting, which is a felony

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<v Speaker 2>in Kentucky Willia. It carries a possible risen sentence of

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<v Speaker 2>one to five years. And they sent me the arrest

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<v Speaker 2>citations today. And I'm sure this will shock you, but

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<v Speaker 2>out of the fifteen people that are charged with riot

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<v Speaker 2>first degree felony, only thirteen, or I should say only

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<v Speaker 2>two were from Kentucky. The other thirteen were from Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>or Indiana. We've got one from Rising Sun, Indiana, twelve

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<v Speaker 2>from Ohio, everywhere, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple more Cincinnatis, Brooksville, Ohio, wherever that is, another Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>and Cleveland Heights, Ohio, which I assume is in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's an awfully long way.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, two people drive all the way down from

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland to Cincinnati just to come march around Covington and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to shut down.

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<v Speaker 3>Our bridges just to get arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very expensive form of protests when you have

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<v Speaker 2>to go out and hire yourself criminal defense attorneys to

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<v Speaker 2>defend you on a felony riot charge and hope that

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<v Speaker 2>they keep you out of prison. It seems to me

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<v Speaker 2>that it would have been much more advisable to just

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<v Speaker 2>hold the protest on the sidewalk him, march around, protest

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<v Speaker 2>all you want, shout whatever it is you want, hold

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<v Speaker 2>your signs, wave them around. That's fine, you can do

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. We believe in the First Amendments, but

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<v Speaker 2>we don't believe in shutting down bridges all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I understand from media accounts there were injuries

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<v Speaker 1>to the police in northern Kentucky, which is a different

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<v Speaker 1>part of the tri State than the city of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea of fighting with cops on bridges, it can

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<v Speaker 1>be extremely dangerous. What damages injuries, if any, did the

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<v Speaker 2>Fortunately, Willie, I believe the injuries to the police officers

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<v Speaker 2>were minor. I think we've got some cuts and bruises

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<v Speaker 2>and scrapes. I do see some photographs of some bloody elbows,

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<v Speaker 2>bloody knees, bloody hands, but minor injuries. Fortunately, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>aware of any offer or that was seriously injured, nor

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<v Speaker 2>am I aware of any protester that was seriously injured.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, when you're doing this stuff on a bridge,

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<v Speaker 2>it really raises the level or the intensity of the confrontation. Because,

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<v Speaker 2>as you well know, as we've discussed many times, the

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<v Speaker 2>only Covington police officer to die in the line of

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<v Speaker 2>duty in my lifetime, thank god, there was only one.

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<v Speaker 2>But the one was Michael Parton, who of course fell

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<v Speaker 2>from a bridge to his death in January fourth, some

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six years ago, I believe, but that's still fresh

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<v Speaker 2>in the minds of I think all the police in

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<v Speaker 2>northern Kentucky, and they're very aware of how dangerous it

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<v Speaker 2>is to be pursuing criminals, are dealing with criminals, they're

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<v Speaker 2>tussling or otherwise fighting with criminals on a bridge because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know, if you watched the videos,

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<v Speaker 2>some of those cops aren't that big. They're just they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>They're doing a heck of a job dealing with some

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<v Speaker 2>people that are much larger than they are. But some

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<v Speaker 2>of these cops, you know, they got to be concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about whether or not they're going to be tossed over

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<v Speaker 2>the bridge. I know, I've seen video of at least

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<v Speaker 2>one guy hugging the bridge rail for dear life, and

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<v Speaker 2>the police are having to deal with him right there

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<v Speaker 2>over top of the water. I know that there was

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<v Speaker 2>police gear that went missing in the struggles. There were

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<v Speaker 2>personal property of police officers, watches and things of that

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<v Speaker 2>nature that were lost or damaged or destroyed.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of that stuff is believed.

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<v Speaker 2>To have fallen in the river during struggles with these protesters.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's understandably a very tense situation for police

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<v Speaker 2>officers when they're so many stories up above the Ohio River,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think anybody can reasonably assume that they

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<v Speaker 2>will survive a fall from that height, much less into

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<v Speaker 2>the water. And there's no reason that anybody should be

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<v Speaker 2>up there protesting, much less fighting with the police above

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<v Speaker 2>the water. It seems I don't know what it is

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<v Speaker 2>about that suspension bridge, Willie, but first we got people

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<v Speaker 2>hanging banners from it and forcing our police and our

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<v Speaker 2>firemen to go up there and take those down and

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<v Speaker 2>deal with them. And now we got people, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to engage in riots up there. So I've had

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<v Speaker 2>enough with the bridges and the crimes on the bridges

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<v Speaker 2>and people fighting with the police on the bridges. They

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<v Speaker 2>need to find a better place to hold their protests,

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<v Speaker 2>preferably on the north side of the.

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<v Speaker 1>River, you know, Rob Sanders. On Channel five, they had

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<v Speaker 1>this older white woman. She was in her seven is.

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<v Speaker 1>She was skinny. Most of the protesters are morbidly obese,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's a different issue. Looked like the marshmallow manner,

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<v Speaker 1>and this one woman had to weigh three hundred pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>But this particular one was saying, you know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just exercising my rights and a coming to police

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<v Speaker 4>officer picked me up and slammed me to the pavement,

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<v Speaker 4>took away my dignity. And all I'm doing is trying

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<v Speaker 4>to exercise my rights and coming to police wouldn't let

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<v Speaker 4>me do it?

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<v Speaker 1>What you're coming to her.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, she's in the middle of the road, Willie.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you have a right to protest, you have

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<v Speaker 2>a right to freedom of speech, but you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a right to shut down our bridges. And that's everything

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<v Speaker 2>that I've seen so far, at least started in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the roadway with the Comington police trying to

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<v Speaker 2>clear the roadway so that people can get.

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<v Speaker 3>Across the bridges. It's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>It's dangerous for the protesters, it's dangerous for the motorists,

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<v Speaker 2>it's dangerous for the police.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just not.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that should have been happening in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm disappointed that anybody felt it necessary to

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<v Speaker 2>provoke this confrontation, which is what I believe these protesters

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<v Speaker 2>were intentionally doing, is trying to provoke a confrontation with police.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only thing that can result from shutting down

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<v Speaker 2>a bridge on a state route, and I think you

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<v Speaker 2>would get the result no matter which bridge you try

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<v Speaker 2>and shut down, but certainly one is highly traveled as

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<v Speaker 2>the Suspension bridge with all those.

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<v Speaker 3>Holes in it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, anybody that's walked across the river to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the Reds game, or and go to the Bengals game,

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<v Speaker 2>or coming back over to visit one of our fine

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<v Speaker 2>establishments on the south side of the river, Willie, which

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<v Speaker 2>I know you like to frequent and hang out at.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody who's walked.

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<v Speaker 2>Across that bridge knows that there's all sorts of gaps

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<v Speaker 2>and holes in that bridge. And then the last thing

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<v Speaker 2>any police officer wants to be doing is rolling around

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<v Speaker 2>in tussling with unruly and uncooperative disobeion the criminals up

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<v Speaker 2>there not following police lawful orders to disperse and get

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<v Speaker 2>out of the roadway.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what happened. Lieutenant pack Cayton, who I know well,

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<v Speaker 1>was on the air Channel nine last night saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we've issued two or three paper citations and basically those

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be dismissed. As soon as they get

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<v Speaker 1>to a court in Hambling County, they'll be dismissed. The

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<v Speaker 1>protesters have regularly gone to I seventy five in the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Cincinnati to shut down I seventy five, and

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<v Speaker 1>when that happens, guess what. Nothing happens. After the George

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd riots, nothing happened. In twenty oh one, the riots,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing happened. All the charges are dismissed. Do you look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to dismissing the charges in Covington, Kentucky?

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<v Speaker 3>No, Willie. You know it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotten the number of different emails already, mostly from

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<v Speaker 2>news outlets, asking me if I plan to dismiss the charges,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, obviously, you folks don't pay much attention

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<v Speaker 2>to crime in Kenton County because we're going to collect

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<v Speaker 2>the evidence.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to review the evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>I have over fifty eight body camera videos just from

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<v Speaker 2>the Covington officers alone. William, that's before we start adding

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<v Speaker 2>in all the other police agencies from Kenton and Campbell Counties.

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<v Speaker 2>It responded, we pretty much stripped two counties of all

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<v Speaker 2>of our police coverage for the all call of the

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<v Speaker 2>officer needs assistants to get down to the bridge and

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<v Speaker 2>help get this situation under control. It's a whole another

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<v Speaker 2>issue about stripping police detective from other law abiding citizens

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<v Speaker 2>all across two counties. But nevertheless, know we plan to

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<v Speaker 2>collect the evidence, review all the body camera videos. If

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<v Speaker 2>we have a case, we have charges that we can

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<v Speaker 2>prove the criminal accident anyone committed, they will be prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 2>It's how we do business over here. It's how I

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<v Speaker 2>think every citizen has a right to expect that the

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<v Speaker 2>conduct themselves and upholding the law and enforcing the law

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<v Speaker 2>that has been.

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<v Speaker 3>Duly passed by our legislatures.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why people live in a community that

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I look at the demographics. I look at the population.

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<v Speaker 1>If you take Boone, Kenton, and Campbell County, the population

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<v Speaker 1>is about a little less than three hundred thousand, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the population of the city of Cincinnati, and Hamilton

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<v Speaker 1>County is going to completely woke to the left. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have three communities northern Kentucky about the size of

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<v Speaker 1>the city. If you add in the communities in southeast

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana and those that border Hamilton County, which would be

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<v Speaker 1>Claremont County and Warren County. In Butler County, you have

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<v Speaker 1>this little enclave in the middle where the law doesn't apply,

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<v Speaker 1>in which there's lax law enforcement, we lease down the

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<v Speaker 1>city streets, open air smoking, marijuana, non enforcement of curfew

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<v Speaker 1>laws for teenagers, non enforcement of truancy laws. Twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the kids at CPS don't show up for

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<v Speaker 1>little island floating in the middle of a sea of red.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't think of another city in America where

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<v Speaker 1>on one side of the river you have woke progressivism.

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<v Speaker 1>You have in the city of Cincinnati, a sanctuary city

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<v Speaker 1>in which the law doesn't apply, the police are demoralized,

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<v Speaker 1>the school stink. In the city of Cincinnati, there's massive

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<v Speaker 1>lawlessness ignored. And you go a quarter of a mile

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<v Speaker 1>away the Ohio River, and all of a sudden you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the land of Rob Sanders Kenton County. You're in

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<v Speaker 1>the land of Butler County, or Claremont County or Warren County,

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<v Speaker 1>David Foreignschell, or Southeast Indiana. God help you if you're

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<v Speaker 1>caught with marijuana in Dearborn, Indiana. It's a serious matter.

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<v Speaker 1>So what advice would you provide to the activists, to

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<v Speaker 1>the progressives, to the city beat crowd, to the NPR crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>to the Purple hair and nosering crowd. When it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to committing crime, should you stay in the city of

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<v Speaker 3>It surely seems like a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Will you know, when you start across those bridges and

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<v Speaker 2>you see the big sign and says welcome to the Bluegrass,

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<v Speaker 2>they should know that. I don't even know that you

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<v Speaker 2>caught the old fashioned way. We do things the common

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<v Speaker 2>sense way. We just enforced the laws that we have

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<v Speaker 2>on the books, and we expect everybody that's wandered into

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<v Speaker 2>Artists State to do the same thing, to abide by

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<v Speaker 2>those laws that are on the books. We're not asking

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<v Speaker 2>anybody to do anything special except just behave yourselves. What

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<v Speaker 2>they choose to do on the north side of the river,

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<v Speaker 2>that's their business. But if once you come on the bridge,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look down and you're over top the water,

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<v Speaker 2>chances are you were now in Kentucky and you can

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<v Speaker 2>count on being prosecuted for any criminal offense that you

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<v Speaker 2>can fit commit. Novel concept, I'm sure. But you know

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I will mention Willy that was really alarming

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<v Speaker 2>about this is so this protest, from what I'm told,

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<v Speaker 2>started with a much smaller group of people coming across

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<v Speaker 3>And when the.

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<v Speaker 2>Police showed up to tell them to get on the sidewalk,

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<v Speaker 2>because they weren't there to arrest everybody right off the bat,

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<v Speaker 2>they were there to tell them to get on the sidewalk,

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<v Speaker 2>that group of people people started radioing back to a

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<v Speaker 2>larger group still on the Cincinnati side and radio to

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<v Speaker 2>them and say, you know, I guess we've done it,

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<v Speaker 2>or the police are here, that's what we're looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but it's like, hey, the police are here.

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<v Speaker 2>So instead of all those people going, well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going over there because they've already got the police to

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<v Speaker 2>show up and so I don't want any part of

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<v Speaker 2>that now, they came running in and created a much

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<v Speaker 2>bigger problem, adding to the problem with dozens, if not

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of more people on the bridge blocking the trafficking,

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<v Speaker 2>and only escalated the situation. But the coordination between those

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<v Speaker 2>people that claim that they're just exercising their rights to

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<v Speaker 2>and breaking the laws especially problematic, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably a big contributing factor as to why the Comington

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<v Speaker 2>police chose to go with a riot charge is because

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<v Speaker 2>of that coordination. In Kentucky, it only takes five people

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<v Speaker 2>to be involved in criminal conduct for it to be

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<v Speaker 2>a riot. But when you have that coordination between dozens

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<v Speaker 2>or hundreds of people breaking the law, that creates a

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<v Speaker 2>very serious, very dangerous situation for police officers. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we trust them, we asked them, and we trust them

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<v Speaker 2>to uphold the law, enforce and keep our community safe.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the kind of community that.

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<v Speaker 2>We enjoy on the south side of the river, and

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<v Speaker 2>when people put their lives at risk, we take that

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<v Speaker 1>And lastly, Rob Sanders, I would imagine the dozens of

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<v Speaker 1>Covington and Kentucky police that came to assist offerser of

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<v Speaker 1>needs assistants get here. Now, there were many communities in

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<v Speaker 1>And I can specifically recall in the late nineteen nineties

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<v Speaker 1>that the body of Officer Michael Parton was not located

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<v Speaker 1>for many weeks because it was the river was very cold,

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky and elsewhere that this officer was pursuing someone who

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<v Speaker 1>should not have been on the bridge, and that he

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<v Speaker 1>and his body wasn't located for a long period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Just exacerbate at the conflicts for someone who thinks this

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<v Speaker 1>emom needs special protection and special protests. Do it in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>the charges will be dismissed. You can walk on I

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five with impunity, smoke your pot, do what you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do, do the wheelies around Fountain Square, no big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it in Covington doesn't apply. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be and if these charges indicated, an

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<v Speaker 1>indictment is necessary. These fifteen or so people are facing

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<v Speaker 1>hard time in prison, not a paper charge dismissed by

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<v Speaker 1>a liberal magistrate. Well, Rob Sanders, thank you. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens down the road. Are these individuals out on bond,

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<v Speaker 1>you know? Are they bonded out yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Willie, they all just appeared in our district court

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<v Speaker 2>for arraignment at eight thirty this morning, and at that

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<v Speaker 2>time the judge would have set bond.

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<v Speaker 3>For each one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Each one of them's cases are individual and they get

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<v Speaker 2>individual bond reviews, so every one of them's got a

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<v Speaker 2>different bond amount. I'm going to wait probably a couple

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<v Speaker 2>see how many of them actually we're able to post

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<v Speaker 2>that bond. So right now, it's just I haven't taken

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<v Speaker 2>the time to get on the website and look up

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<v Speaker 2>all fifteen defendants to see who's in and who's out.

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<v Speaker 2>But I suspect that there will probably be several who

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<v Speaker 1>All right, good, well, the message is sent, do your

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<v Speaker 1>crimes in Cincinnati, not much consequence. Do your crimes in Covington,

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<v Speaker 1>A big consequence message has been sent. Hopefully the NPR crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>the old white women from Hyde Park that want to

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<v Speaker 1>feel as if their miserable lives have importance. Hopefully the

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<v Speaker 1>message will be received. Commit your crimes in Cincinnati, don't

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<v Speaker 1>commit them in Covington. My hometown. Rob Sanders, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Ron, my pleasure, WILLI and Hay about every

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<v Speaker 3>Is hiring right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So if any of those good officers on the north

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<v Speaker 2>side of the river retired to work in someplace that

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<v Speaker 2>just calls for written tickets and dismissed cases, come on

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<v Speaker 2>over here, put your applications in.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd be happy to have more good officers.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless America. Rob Sanders, thank you very much. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>continue with more. There's a lot of new sheriff in town.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the old sheriff. The idea that a liberal, progressive

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<v Speaker 1>woke sanctuary city. It's a quarter of a mile from

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement across the river. You're warned. Bill Cunningham, News

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