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Speaker 2: Thank you, Love you, Blain.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk some college football in this segment with a

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Speaker 2: Let's get out to the Hotline.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in Jake Crane to the show from the Crane

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and Company, Jake.

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Speaker 2: How you live it?

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Speaker 6: Oh Man doing fantastic Actually got out of Nashville and

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fled to a little bit of a better place because, man,

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Speaker 2: So then, what have you been doing with like the show?

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Speaker 3: Obviously, you know recently for people don't know, you were

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up with Daily Wire before. ON three just picked up

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your show and you guys have been broadcasting from where

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through this process?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know ON three has a elite studio

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that's almost done, so we'll be doing it out of

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But we've really kind of been doing just our remote setup,

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waiting on that to get done. And then obviously the

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power goes out where we're at in Nashville, so I

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had to drive three hours south. I'm gonna be doing

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the show here for the next couple days, but we'll

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week and a half and we're fired up about it.

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Speaker 3: Love it man, Well, appreciate all that you do. I

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want to just kind of level set here. College football

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season is done right. We got a national champion Indiana,

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one of the best stories ever, comebacks, breakthroughs, underestimated stories

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in college football history. How would you describe the twenty

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twenty five season in the state of college football right now?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think the state of college football is two

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things can be true at once. That's the way I

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put it. Obviously, the popularity of the sport when you

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look at the viewership numbers including the National Championship game,

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are through the roof. But let's be honest, I think

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the only thing that could kill the love for college

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football is an asteroid are the aliens, So it's kind

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of hard to screw that up. But you know, at

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some point, and again I'm not an anti nil person.

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I'm not an anti having the ability to transfer person,

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but it's gotten to the point I think where it's

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out of control in that there's no guidelines, there's no

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real precedent, and you know, I feel like I'm basically

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capitulating to the fact that they've got to be employees,

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to fix this, because they're not two sided contracts. There's

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really no consequence for one party on the contract, and

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you can't really in a financial agreement if they are

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not employees and it's an employment agreement. So as much

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as it makes me nervous and as much as I

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wish we weren't to this point, I don't want to

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let perfect get in the way of better. They need

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to go ahead and be made employees so they can

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go through the same type of contract situation that we

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reached that point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, it's hard because the the fact that

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Indiana won the national championship right would speak to and

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that that Miami at ten seed made it to the

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national championship as well in the expanded playoff format, who

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hasn't won a national championship in a long time.

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Speaker 2: In the coming out of the ACC would let lead

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some people to believe, hey, this is good for the sport.

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Speaker 3: We are in a better state now than we've ever

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been because the college football called cabal, the cartel no

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longer reigns uh with with power right and uh corruption right,

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limiting the little guy, uh, the outsider from getting into

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the big boys club.

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Speaker 2: But on the other hand, there is a lot of chaos.

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Speaker 3: There is a lot of of craziness that's going on

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that it goes unchecked, and so, uh, there's definitely chaos.

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But also having the the underdo story of Indiana, I

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mean that has to make you optimistic about the future.

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Speaker 6: Right well, I mean from a parody standpoint, you're you're

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getting the parody. I mean, we had two group of

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five teams make a twelve team playoff, which I've got

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problems with. But the parody argument is, and I look,

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the South think that football is ours. I love football enough.

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I want it to be everybody's. I want people to

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love it like we love it in the South, on

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the West Coast and in the North and these other places.

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I want that and you can achieve that through parody.

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So that part of it I've got absolutely no problem with.

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I actually encourage it. But as far as as the

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nil stuff we were talking about, that's a total mess.

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I will say though. As crazy as the nil stuff

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and the transfer portal is what's even crazier is everybody

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keeps arguing about the number of teams that should be

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in the postseason. And I get it, but that's not

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even the biggest problem. The way we pick the teams

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is a disaster. So it's like if there's a car

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wreck and somebody who's got a broken hand and to

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collapse lungs, you don't work on the broken hand first.

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some reason we're not taking care of that. People just

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they talk about it during the season and then forget

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about it. The way we pick teams is asinom to

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the point where people are making fun of Notre Name

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because Notre Dame got a piece of paper sign that said,

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if we finish in the top twelve, we should make

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the twelve team playoffs. Well that's how it should be

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for everybody. What are we doing, Like, I don't understand

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how it's crazy we don't do that.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot to really evaluate in the selection process.

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you know, how much it should should it be based

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off of analytics, almost like a BCS algorithmic structure, and

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how much of it should be human nature committee based

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voting and decision making.

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Speaker 6: So, and I'm going to try not to be too

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long winded here, but I think I fixed it. To

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be honest, I think what we need to have is

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you need to have half objective, and I've got a

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formula for that. It's pretty easy and half subjective on

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the objective part. And we can argue about the variables

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that go into strength of schedule and strength of record.

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But let's say that you take strength of and I'm

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no mathematician, believe me, ben ask any teacher I ever had.

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Once they start putting letters in it, I'm screwed. But

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you take strength of schedule plus strength of record and

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you divide it by the number of games you played,

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and the lower number that it gets spit out the better.

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Like in golf. That does two things. It gives you

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a formula that we all know that, the coaches know that,

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the ads know that, the commissioners know, so you know

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out of schedule. The second thing it does it incentivizes

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playing in the conference championship game because you don't have

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to be goodwill hunting to figure out that if you

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divide something by thirteen, it's going to be less than

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if you divide it by twelve, therefore making your objective

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ranking higher regardless of what happens in that game. The

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second thing we need to do is have a committee,

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but not a committee made up of people that are

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getting paid currently by institutions that are eligible for the postseason.

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That you cannot. That's a conflict of interest. So the

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last year for being honest, because Bubba Cunningham's ahead of

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the committee. You cannot be getting paid by a school

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that is eligible and be on the committee. So you

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pick whoever you want, but you can't be affiliated with that.

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They have a ranking that is made public and in

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the meetings and the ranking reveals are live streamed. You

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take one through fourteen because fourteen teams should make the playoff.

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then there's our twelve team tournament. We can rock and roll.

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But whatever ranking you have by your name, so BYU

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is nine, that is nine. And remember the lower the

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number the better. So the higher you are ranked and aggregate,

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the better you are ranked, the lower your number will be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know, would you have rather had the expansion

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to like sixteen, or did you like the fact that

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gonna go to twenty four. And what wordes me is

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everybody talks about watering down the regular season, but they

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talk about it in the wrong way because you can't

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advocate for player safety and then add seven playoff games like,

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you just can't do that. So if you go past sixteen,

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now we're talking about having to eliminate a regular season game,

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and their reasoning will be, well, we played eleven games

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I don't want that. I like the twelve game regular

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College Football segment brought to you by Dental Pros of

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Utah Dentalprosiutah dot Com. I want to ask you because

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Indiana obviously one of the most underrated teams in the

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ap Pole era, meaning you know, look they I mean,

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they've been one of the worst P four teams in

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college football playoff history, college football history. I was looking

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at some of the data here though, in the last

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six years, the teams that started outside of the Ape

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Pole and entered and State fixated in the top twenty

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five at the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: You know, who are they and why are they underrated?

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Speaker 3: BYU is the number one most underrated team in the

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modern era and even in the ap pole era if

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you go back, why is it that BYU is always

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starting outside of the top twenty five but ends up

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inside the twenty five at the end of the season.

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top ten and wins in the last fifty years, and

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the top ten in wins. They had eleven in twenty twenty, ten,

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in twenty twenty one, eight in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: They had a dip in twenty twenty three. First year Big.

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Speaker 3: Twelve, they went five and seven. Then they had eleven

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and twelve the last two seasons. Why is it that

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Speaker 6: Do you think, well, you know, the ap poles it's

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it's a joke. Half the people in there couldn't wouldn't

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know a football if you see what Adam that happened.

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But way too many people and the wrong people vote

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in the ap pole, so that polls disasters. Thank god,

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it has no technical bearing. Even though I think the

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rankings look at the apeople because they marror themselves a lot.

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That's what worries me. The problem I think when it

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comes to BYU is not enough national people are people

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that love this sport because I know BYU fans and

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the State of Utah y'all are nuts about But I

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got so much respect, and I would say this if

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I didn't come on the show. I've got a ton

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of respect for the State of Utah's love for and

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knowledge of football. But again, nationally, even though BYU's got

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a ton of tradition, I don't think they get the

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same brand bump Man, I don't. I think BYU has

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to prove it before anybody believes, as opposed to other teams.

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People just believe without them having to prove it. That's

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what I think the problem lies in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're spot on in that regard, And

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would you include in your algorithm your subjective and algorithmic methodology.

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Would you include the A people into the subjective or

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the objective component?

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Speaker 2: Because it is a metric, right, it isn't ranking.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you'd have to put it in the subjective,

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but I'd put it in the stupid subjective part of subjective.

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Speaker 2: I love it, man, crazy.

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Speaker 6: Joch like me, I was an I coached high school

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for one year as a substitute teacher. That you think

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I knew half the stuff they were telling the seniors

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in high school? Like you didn't need me teaching the

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class like some of these people. We don't need you

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teaching the class. We just need you to show up

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to the class and shut up and listen and maybe

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we'll ask you something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. Hey, best way to support you

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how you do it?

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Speaker 3: And in on the platforms, like let's promote you a

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little bit for those that are tuning into our show

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Speaker 6: Yeah, man, Well, you know we talk about a BYU.

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To be honest, the Big twelve stuff doesn't do great

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in the algorithm compared to the SEC in the Big ten.

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And I want to help change that. Want to help

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change that. That's why we taught Big twelve stuff. But look,

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Speaker 3: Love it well, you do, great word Jake and your crew,

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And congratulations on the move to ON three. Was that

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a long time coming? How did this all come about? Man,

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let's highlight that as well.

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Speaker 6: Man, you know, we were happy at the Daily Wire.

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It's just, you know, it's kind of a natural evolution

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for a sports show to be at a sports media company.

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We were kind of on an island a little bit

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over there, but we had watched ON three. We knew

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some people over there and they had shown a lot

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of interest in us, and it kind of blossom from

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there and it's it's been great so far. We're just

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ready to get in that new studio.

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Speaker 3: Hey Man, excited for your congratulations. Love talking ball with you. Well,

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who's your way too early team or top maybe top

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four teams to win the national championship next year?

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Speaker 6: Jake, Well, I tell you it's hard not to put

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LSU in there after what they got and you can look.

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I don't like the way Lane does a lot of stuff,

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But when I like my offense being a run by

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a guy like Lane Kiffin, like I like the chef

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at my restaurant to be overweight, I need him to

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really love what he's doing. So yeah, yeah, so I

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would put LSU in there. You're gonna have some of

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the same teams. I'm interesting to see with Indiana if

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the culture can continue with bringing in higher profile guys.

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I want to see that. It's hard for me not

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to believe in Signetti though. You know, I Ohio State's

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gonna be tough, dude. I mean, they're gonna be really,

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really good. They just reload, and I would say, looking

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at the sec outside of LSU, I'm really George is

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gonna come back with a vengeance now, and they're I

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think they're gonna be even better upfront defensively than they were.

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So those are the four I put in there.

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Speaker 3: Love that breakdown, Jake, We salute you, We appreciate you man.

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Thanks for joining us once again.

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Speaker 6: Hey, thank you guys for having me.

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