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Speaker 2: Let's get out to the Hotline.
Speaker 3: Welcome in Jake Crane to the show from the Crane
and Company, Jake.
Speaker 2: How you live it?
Speaker 6: Oh Man doing fantastic Actually got out of Nashville and
fled to a little bit of a better place because, man,
I don't think we're gonna have power for another week,
so I had had to get out of there.
Speaker 2: So then, what have you been doing with like the show?
Speaker 3: Obviously, you know recently for people don't know, you were
up with Daily Wire before. ON three just picked up
your show and you guys have been broadcasting from where
through this process?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know ON three has a elite studio
that's almost done, so we'll be doing it out of
there here in probably about a week and a half.
But we've really kind of been doing just our remote setup,
waiting on that to get done. And then obviously the
power goes out where we're at in Nashville, so I
had to drive three hours south. I'm gonna be doing
the show here for the next couple days, but we'll
be in the brand new studio here in about a
week and a half and we're fired up about it.
Speaker 3: Love it man, Well, appreciate all that you do. I
want to just kind of level set here. College football
season is done right. We got a national champion Indiana,
one of the best stories ever, comebacks, breakthroughs, underestimated stories
in college football history. How would you describe the twenty
twenty five season in the state of college football right now?
Speaker 6: Well, I think the state of college football is two
things can be true at once. That's the way I
put it. Obviously, the popularity of the sport when you
look at the viewership numbers including the National Championship game,
are through the roof. But let's be honest, I think
the only thing that could kill the love for college
football is an asteroid are the aliens, So it's kind
of hard to screw that up. But you know, at
some point, and again I'm not an anti nil person.
I'm not an anti having the ability to transfer person,
but it's gotten to the point I think where it's
out of control in that there's no guidelines, there's no
real precedent, and you know, I feel like I'm basically
capitulating to the fact that they've got to be employees,
Like that's the only way. I don't see another way
to fix this, because they're not two sided contracts. There's
really no consequence for one party on the contract, and
you can't really in a financial agreement if they are
not employees and it's an employment agreement. So as much
as it makes me nervous and as much as I
wish we weren't to this point, I don't want to
let perfect get in the way of better. They need
to go ahead and be made employees so they can
go through the same type of contract situation that we
go through here in the real world. I just think
reached that point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, it's hard because the the fact that
Indiana won the national championship right would speak to and
that that Miami at ten seed made it to the
national championship as well in the expanded playoff format, who
hasn't won a national championship in a long time.
Speaker 2: In the coming out of the ACC would let lead
some people to believe, hey, this is good for the sport.
Speaker 3: We are in a better state now than we've ever
been because the college football called cabal, the cartel no
longer reigns uh with with power right and uh corruption right,
limiting the little guy, uh, the outsider from getting into
the big boys club.
Speaker 2: But on the other hand, there is a lot of chaos.
Speaker 3: There is a lot of of craziness that's going on
that it goes unchecked, and so, uh, there's definitely chaos.
But also having the the underdo story of Indiana, I
mean that has to make you optimistic about the future.
Speaker 6: Right well, I mean from a parody standpoint, you're you're
getting the parody. I mean, we had two group of
five teams make a twelve team playoff, which I've got
problems with. But the parody argument is, and I look,
I am from the South. A lot of people in
the South think that football is ours. I love football enough.
I want it to be everybody's. I want people to
love it like we love it in the South, on
the West Coast and in the North and these other places.
I want that and you can achieve that through parody.
So that part of it I've got absolutely no problem with.
I actually encourage it. But as far as as the
nil stuff we were talking about, that's a total mess.
I will say though. As crazy as the nil stuff
and the transfer portal is what's even crazier is everybody
keeps arguing about the number of teams that should be
in the postseason. And I get it, but that's not
even the biggest problem. The way we pick the teams
is a disaster. So it's like if there's a car
wreck and somebody who's got a broken hand and to
collapse lungs, you don't work on the broken hand first.
You take care of the most catastrophic injury. And for
some reason we're not taking care of that. People just
they talk about it during the season and then forget
about it. The way we pick teams is asinom to
the point where people are making fun of Notre Name
because Notre Dame got a piece of paper sign that said,
if we finish in the top twelve, we should make
the twelve team playoffs. Well that's how it should be
for everybody. What are we doing, Like, I don't understand
how it's crazy we don't do that.
Speaker 3: There's a lot to really evaluate in the selection process.
There's objective to the points, there's subjective committee points like
you know, how much it should should it be based
off of analytics, almost like a BCS algorithmic structure, and
how much of it should be human nature committee based
voting and decision making.
Speaker 6: So, and I'm going to try not to be too
long winded here, but I think I fixed it. To
be honest, I think what we need to have is
you need to have half objective, and I've got a
formula for that. It's pretty easy and half subjective on
the objective part. And we can argue about the variables
that go into strength of schedule and strength of record.
But let's say that you take strength of and I'm
no mathematician, believe me, ben ask any teacher I ever had.
Once they start putting letters in it, I'm screwed. But
you take strength of schedule plus strength of record and
you divide it by the number of games you played,
and the lower number that it gets spit out the better.
Like in golf. That does two things. It gives you
a formula that we all know that, the coaches know that,
the ads know that, the commissioners know, so you know
out of schedule. The second thing it does it incentivizes
playing in the conference championship game because you don't have
to be goodwill hunting to figure out that if you
divide something by thirteen, it's going to be less than
if you divide it by twelve, therefore making your objective
ranking higher regardless of what happens in that game. The
second thing we need to do is have a committee,
but not a committee made up of people that are
getting paid currently by institutions that are eligible for the postseason.
That you cannot. That's a conflict of interest. So the
only reason North Carolina got into the men's basketball tournament
last year for being honest, because Bubba Cunningham's ahead of
the committee. You cannot be getting paid by a school
that is eligible and be on the committee. So you
pick whoever you want, but you can't be affiliated with that.
They have a ranking that is made public and in
the meetings and the ranking reveals are live streamed. You
take one through fourteen because fourteen teams should make the playoff.
Eleven should play fourteen, twelve should play thirteen. Plug those,
then there's our twelve team tournament. We can rock and roll.
But whatever ranking you have by your name, so BYU
is nine, that is nine. And remember the lower the
number the better. So the higher you are ranked and aggregate,
the better you are ranked, the lower your number will be.
So if we just did that, I think we can
fix it. But we're too stupid to do that.
Speaker 3: Hey, you know, would you have rather had the expansion
to like sixteen, or did you like the fact that
the committee essentially voted to keep it at twelve.
Speaker 6: I'm I know that when we go to sixteen, we're
gonna go to twenty four. And what wordes me is
everybody talks about watering down the regular season, but they
talk about it in the wrong way because you can't
advocate for player safety and then add seven playoff games like,
you just can't do that. So if you go past sixteen,
now we're talking about having to eliminate a regular season game,
and their reasoning will be, well, we played eleven games
for fifty, so we're really going back to the north.
I don't want that. I like the twelve game regular
season schedule. I think anything past sixteen, which we're gonna
go to eventually, is going to start eating in to
the amount of regular season games that are played. And
that's what worries me.
Speaker 3: Jay Crane here on your Utah ESPN or Radio Newculo
College Football segment brought to you by Dental Pros of
Utah Dentalprosiutah dot Com. I want to ask you because
Indiana obviously one of the most underrated teams in the
ap Pole era, meaning you know, look they I mean,
they've been one of the worst P four teams in
college football playoff history, college football history. I was looking
at some of the data here though, in the last
six years, the teams that started outside of the Ape
Pole and entered and State fixated in the top twenty
five at the end of the season.
Speaker 2: You know, who are they and why are they underrated?
Speaker 3: BYU is the number one most underrated team in the
modern era and even in the ap pole era if
you go back, why is it that BYU is always
starting outside of the top twenty five but ends up
inside the twenty five at the end of the season.
I mean because BYU top fifty and wins are sorry,
top ten and wins in the last fifty years, and
I believe over the last six years are also in
the top ten in wins. They had eleven in twenty twenty, ten,
in twenty twenty one, eight in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: They had a dip in twenty twenty three. First year Big.
Speaker 3: Twelve, they went five and seven. Then they had eleven
and twelve the last two seasons. Why is it that
they're underrated?
Speaker 6: Do you think, well, you know, the ap poles it's
it's a joke. Half the people in there couldn't wouldn't
know a football if you see what Adam that happened.
But way too many people and the wrong people vote
in the ap pole, so that polls disasters. Thank god,
it has no technical bearing. Even though I think the
rankings look at the apeople because they marror themselves a lot.
That's what worries me. The problem I think when it
comes to BYU is not enough national people are people
that love this sport because I know BYU fans and
the State of Utah y'all are nuts about But I
got so much respect, and I would say this if
I didn't come on the show. I've got a ton
of respect for the State of Utah's love for and
knowledge of football. But again, nationally, even though BYU's got
a ton of tradition, I don't think they get the
same brand bump Man, I don't. I think BYU has
to prove it before anybody believes, as opposed to other teams.
People just believe without them having to prove it. That's
what I think the problem lies in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're spot on in that regard, And
would you include in your algorithm your subjective and algorithmic methodology.
Would you include the A people into the subjective or
the objective component?
Speaker 2: Because it is a metric, right, it isn't ranking.
Speaker 6: I mean, you'd have to put it in the subjective,
but I'd put it in the stupid subjective part of subjective.
Speaker 2: I love it, man, crazy.
Speaker 6: Joch like me, I was an I coached high school
for one year as a substitute teacher. That you think
I knew half the stuff they were telling the seniors
in high school? Like you didn't need me teaching the
class like some of these people. We don't need you
teaching the class. We just need you to show up
to the class and shut up and listen and maybe
we'll ask you something.
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little bit for those that are tuning into our show
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Speaker 6: Yeah, man, Well, you know we talk about a BYU.
To be honest, the Big twelve stuff doesn't do great
in the algorithm compared to the SEC in the Big ten.
And I want to help change that. Want to help
change that. That's why we taught Big twelve stuff. But look,
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Speaker 3: Love it well, you do, great word Jake and your crew,
And congratulations on the move to ON three. Was that
a long time coming? How did this all come about? Man,
let's highlight that as well.
Speaker 6: Man, you know, we were happy at the Daily Wire.
It's just, you know, it's kind of a natural evolution
for a sports show to be at a sports media company.
We were kind of on an island a little bit
over there, but we had watched ON three. We knew
some people over there and they had shown a lot
of interest in us, and it kind of blossom from
there and it's it's been great so far. We're just
ready to get in that new studio.
Speaker 3: Hey Man, excited for your congratulations. Love talking ball with you. Well,
who's your way too early team or top maybe top
four teams to win the national championship next year?
Speaker 6: Jake, Well, I tell you it's hard not to put
LSU in there after what they got and you can look.
I don't like the way Lane does a lot of stuff,
But when I like my offense being a run by
a guy like Lane Kiffin, like I like the chef
at my restaurant to be overweight, I need him to
really love what he's doing. So yeah, yeah, so I
would put LSU in there. You're gonna have some of
the same teams. I'm interesting to see with Indiana if
the culture can continue with bringing in higher profile guys.
I want to see that. It's hard for me not
to believe in Signetti though. You know, I Ohio State's
gonna be tough, dude. I mean, they're gonna be really,
really good. They just reload, and I would say, looking
at the sec outside of LSU, I'm really George is
gonna come back with a vengeance now, and they're I
think they're gonna be even better upfront defensively than they were.
So those are the four I put in there.
Speaker 3: Love that breakdown, Jake, We salute you, We appreciate you man.
Thanks for joining us once again.
Speaker 6: Hey, thank you guys for having me.
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