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There we go. Hey, how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Today's help my brother?

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Speaker 1: It's been too long, you know, it's been too long,

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been too long, man, Outside of creating music, What have

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you been up to?

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Speaker 2: Man? You know, I'm just doing to do right grinding.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the fun part about life. When you can

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say been doing it. That means you're in control. You're

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the one signing the stage. That's got to be quite fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know the deal with Sony and all that

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when we talked last time. So I decided to just

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start my own little label and release it myself and

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just kind of do my own gig.

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Speaker 1: You know, I do love that. See see, that's to

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me is what it's all about, because you know, you

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walk and talk with the everyday average person and you

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live that life. Now here comes this record company and

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they don't walk your life. How are they supposed to

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understand what you're doing?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: And I've now that you're in control saying yes, I

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feel it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I finally got my master's and my publishing back,

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and so I've been releasing a lot of new stuff

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as well as uh, well you remember.

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Speaker 2: Covid hit when we were doing Boxcard Junkie. Yes, Sony

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was in control of So no, it's it's nice to

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have that power back.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's you know, I mean, it's still challenging

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as independent now because you don't have the funding from

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the labels. But at the same time, it's cool that

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you know that you have creative control and all that.

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Speaker 1: So then what was it like to sit down and

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start bringing to life Hobo Nation?

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Speaker 2: Oh man? That started a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: It just been a passion of mine because there was

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a time that I was I was out there, you know,

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I write about that, sing about that, and met a

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lot of great people out there. So I just wanted

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to get this vision going, you know, and still working

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on it. But yeah, man, I think good things are

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going to come.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's there's a great vibration that comes from it

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in the way that not only have I always been

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inspired by the Hobo, but the thing is is that

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that you you speak the language and then so that

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we can all understand what their lifestyle is and that

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for men, any many of them, it is a choice

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to be doing what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Right, and uh, you know, I always say, the way

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things are going, there's not a lot of us that

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aren't one pay check away, you know, you know, so

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it's a real thing, and it's you know, for a

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lot of them, it's it's surely not a choice, you know,

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and people should you know, uh, you know, speak for them,

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I think.

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Speaker 1: See, and that to me that you're calling because when

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you listen to any of your music, you can feel

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something from it. I mean, I mean, for instance, like

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you just recently posted a quote here and it says,

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when your soul outgrows the situation, the universe creates an

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exit that speaks, and that that also says a lot

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about your music. It speaks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's true, but yeahhere.

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Speaker 1: Does it come from is it? Are you are you meditating?

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Are you? Are you taking long walks? Where does music

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start with you? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man, three o'clock in the morning, keeping me awake?

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Speaker 3: You know, you got to have a no, no pad

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but by the dresser.

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Speaker 2: But no, but seriously, Uh, you know, it's just always

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been in me and uh.

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Speaker 3: Ever since I was a kid. And but yeah, I

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mean I try to you know, I try to keep grounding.

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Speaker 2: You know. Living by the ocean helps.

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Speaker 1: I love that kind of a sound the ocean each night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very, very blessed in that sense for sure.

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Speaker 1: One of the songs that's coming out is Still. I Know.

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What I love about this song is the strong roll

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in and then it eases right into you know, the blues.

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I can feel some blues and stuff in there, but

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you're really bringing a theatrical vibe to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's because it's an emotional song, you know, and

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it should it should convey that. I think, you know,

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because there's a lot of heartfelt lyrics and a lot

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of a lot of sleepless nights and a lot of

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empty mornings that came into that song. You know, I

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write everything I live. I just don't write songs, right,

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you know, Nashville or whatever, and nothing against them, but

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you know, I just don't sit down and write a song.

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It's it's truly channeling or from the heart or spirit

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or whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 1: You know, please do that move. There's more with Brandon

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Reid Allen coming up next. The name of the EP

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is Hobonation. The name of the song still I know

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you are back with Brandon Reid Allen. Do you think

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songs sometimes, when when you write like that, are really

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like short stories because or would we call it this

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short short story? Because a song like can be over

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with in two minutes and forty five seconds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 3: I think the art of it is is simplicity, which

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is harder than.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: You hear certain bands that just go crazy with our

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pigios and all this stuff, and it's great, it's complex

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and it's you know, masterful, But I think simplicity, honestly

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is one of the most difficult things to put.

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Speaker 2: In a couple of.

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Speaker 3: Minutes, you know, a few minutes, you know, and tell

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the whole story, you know, like for instance, shadow Man, that's.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole life in two minutes. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: See I always look at things like that and go, oh,

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that's our way of just hitting repeats, and then we

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hit repeating and live it all over again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So when when you're putting together the music are you

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are you engineering it as well? And if so, does

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that make you a more of a perfectionist now that

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you're in one hundred percent control?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm perfectionists to to default, and I think most

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most musicians are.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't. Well, I would hope, you know.

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Speaker 3: But but a lot of times, and I've said this before,

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I'm a writer downer. I just hear it. And sometimes

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a song can take thirty minutes. You just hear it

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in the middle of you know, three o'clock in the

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morning or something like empty Chair and that's how that came.

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And then but then other ones like hey mama, that

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took nine months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's just I always wait for it

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to come.

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Speaker 3: I don't rush the song, you know, I don't you

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know how a lot of people you got to finish

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the song, you got to do this, you got to

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do that really quick, and I let it finish yourself.

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And sometimes I've noticed songs I've written years ago will

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end up being in my bridge in a new song

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and just writtle you know.

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Speaker 1: I love that stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you just don't know, you know, like I

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just wrote one called Home.

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Speaker 2: And that bridge was five years old.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you know, but I never knew, you know, I

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didn't know what to do with it, and it worked

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out perfectly, you know with the song. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of that song, Hey Mama, that video for that,

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I'd like to know where you film those wide open

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fields because I got a vibe that it was somewhere

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near Montana, maybe Wyoming, Texas, Texas. I'll give you that, Okay,

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I'll give you that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the Texas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's wide open country though, dude.

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Speaker 3: Oh I know, I know, which is funny because it

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was Houston, which is nothing but pavement, you know, but

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you go a little you know, outside of town and

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then it's it's all open country. Just it's beautiful, you know,

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big skies and everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And you also included, as you know,

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acoustic guitar in the bar. I thought that was very

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level head. It didn't very real when it comes to

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authentic musicians that it does start in those bars.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, you want to know. The funny party about

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that was in the video. You see the.

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Speaker 3: Little dog, yeah, in the car, so nobody knew. They

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thought I was busking. They didn't know I was filming

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a video. So no, this is the cool part. So

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what happened was We're like, so we want to do

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the open field, but we got to get down to

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the city. So I said, hey, take me to a bypass,

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you know, and somebody, some little sweet lady even gave

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me a dollar.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, because they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Really see the cameras. They didn't know that, you know,

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I was filming a video. They just thought that I

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was busking, you know. And it was super cool. And

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then I went into that little place you're talking about,

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and that's how I got to know all the employees

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and let me go back and that's cool the kitchen

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and flip burgers with them and sing songs.

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Speaker 2: For them and you know, and they just loved it.

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It was really super cool. It was a very community

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kind of thing. It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Wow. See right there. It brings us to that point of,

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you know, every music project brings you something brand new

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to discover. So even that story right there is something

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brand new to discover and you did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was super cool, man, it was you know.

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Speaker 3: That little lady gave me, you know, that little and

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she was like eighty, She rolled her rounded down and

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gave me a dollar.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, it just shows human kindness.

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Speaker 3: And then how they let me in their venues to

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film and let me cook and stuff and just listen

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to the music.

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Speaker 2: And it was, you know, just like I said, very

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very cool.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Where can people go to find out more about you,

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more about Hobo Nation and everything else that you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Oh, they just google me Brandon Reid, Alan ri E

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I d Alan or Facebook or I'm not really huge

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on TikTok stuff. I know that's the thing. I'm working

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on that. But and I've got an imaging agent by

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the way, Rachel Ryder, and she's, uh, she's handled a

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lot of stuff for me. So I was blessed to

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meet her in Florida because I was in Nashville a

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year ago and then I decided to go to Florida

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and to go up the coast, and uh, now I'm

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in North Carolina just you know, doing that thing beach.

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Speaker 1: Now now what part of North Carolina are you in.

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Speaker 2: I'm on an island which is chippy.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, I'm north Top Cell Beach, Wilmington, you know

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whommy Yeah yeah, okay, so I'm just about an hour

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north of Wilmington. And uh, it's a cool little island.

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Speaker 2: But you get you know, you got one bridge to

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Speaker 1: Over North Carolina. That's North Carolina. That's usome.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, the weather's crazy. Yeah, it's beautiful then and

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a but it's really cool scene.

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Speaker 1: You know. Wow, Well, man, you got to come back

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to this show anytime in the future. The door is

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always going to be open for you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: And I want to give a shout out to Beach

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Star Entertainment too for hooking this up and hooking up

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the gigs. And you know, she's got a lot of

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great artists.

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Speaker 2: You make sure you check her out.

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Speaker 1: Excellent man, be brilliant today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sir, you too, Brother,