Speaker 1: W LW. Good Evening, Gary Jeff Walker on this February third,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, parkening back sixty six years as we
Speaker 1: start tonight's show, and the show's pack got lots of
Speaker 1: great stuff, but we're going to start with American history
Speaker 1: on the radio and the day the music died, the day.
Speaker 2: When you say goodbye, the day when you made me come.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a lot.
Speaker 4: The day that.
Speaker 1: Was quite a day for fans of Buddy Holly, the
Speaker 1: Big Bopper, Richie Vallens, and tonight we open up with
Speaker 1: an archived internet broadcast from KYSD nine to ninety AM
Speaker 1: and Wichita Falls, Kansas by a guy named Snuff Garrett,
Speaker 1: who went on was a good friend of Buddy holly'spack
Speaker 1: in Lubbock, Texas, but went on to be an incredible
Speaker 1: hit making record producer for years for Share, Sonny and Share,
Speaker 1: and I mean so many that I can't even mention.
Speaker 1: But he decided to do an on air tribute that
Speaker 1: night after the plane had crashed carrying those legendary three performers.
Speaker 1: And here's a little bit of that, including with Buddy's
Speaker 1: manager Norman Petty and also the drummer for the Crickets,
Speaker 1: Jerry Allison snuff Garrett remembering Buddy, Holly Patty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is stuff Garrett and can't Buddy and which talkball?
Speaker 5: Fine, thank you, And I don't know I never met
Speaker 5: you personally, but everyone knew in the recording industry is
Speaker 5: the miker and founder of the Crickets, Buddy in the point.
Speaker 4: And of course you've had a lot of it.
Speaker 6: You had a lot to do with that coup, you know,
Speaker 6: Thank you very Buddy was a great guy, and he
Speaker 6: was probably one of the finest young talent.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 5: And he started out, you know, you know, not doing
Speaker 5: too much around the love, just uh trying like twenty
Speaker 5: eight thousand other boys did.
Speaker 4: And he was lucky enough to make it, of course,
Speaker 4: with your help. Uh what uh h have you gotten
Speaker 4: any other word on on uh? What what's happened up there?
Speaker 7: What's not the only thing I have received? Uh a
Speaker 7: college point from Indiana, Uh from one of.
Speaker 8: Our radio stations plants up there after he said that, uh.
Speaker 7: The only thing he had heard was that the plane
Speaker 7: what a private plan that uh the three other fellas
Speaker 7: have a pilots. So there was poor as far as
Speaker 7: we cat gatted.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there wy uh Richie Allen's and the Big bober
Speaker 5: Ride and Buddy and I believe the pilots, Yeah, the
Speaker 5: pilot too.
Speaker 9: Huh.
Speaker 5: Uh, well, Buddy had been playing he played a shott
Speaker 5: there last night and he's did I see and uh
Speaker 5: and there's only his way to the next time.
Speaker 4: Uh, let's see. Uh No, how long has blood he
Speaker 4: been married?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 7: Well, let see, Uh he's taught me off guard.
Speaker 4: I I out very long now, it's about about four months.
Speaker 7: I probably four or.
Speaker 4: Five or four or five months and.
Speaker 5: Uh his words, his wife in New York, see New York, she's.
Speaker 4: In New York.
Speaker 7: I'm I'm I'm certainly sorry about it.
Speaker 5: And uh and uh I'm I'm I'm very sorry that.
Speaker 10: You don't bother you like that.
Speaker 7: Well, uh, things like that happened or the nothing and
Speaker 7: we could.
Speaker 4: Be to a cl room princestan.
Speaker 7: Well, wonder why anything like it do happen?
Speaker 6: Notssarily, of course, there's always bound to be a reason somewhere.
Speaker 4: Uh n none does does. But he have many more
Speaker 4: records McCanns, and he have.
Speaker 8: Two more uh that we did in New York.
Speaker 7: You know, he usually why you or nobody Taul ankus
Speaker 7: uh tall.
Speaker 6: Al ideas, right, who'll have two of us who have
Speaker 6: done at the same time, and that I have uh
Speaker 6: whole probably something here at mccam here at quote, I say, uh,
Speaker 6: he was supposed to go and put up.
Speaker 7: A station for next week. Oh uh you know Iver,
Speaker 7: the one that we been there and the one that
Speaker 7: I have here, the only one that we player. I say,
Speaker 7: well he uh.
Speaker 4: Uh, I I guess uh you'll you'll well you putting
Speaker 4: most of those out.
Speaker 8: I hope you will some of those out.
Speaker 4: The last all he had record there?
Speaker 7: What you like to raf? Hey? I? Uh, what you
Speaker 7: we he talk about?
Speaker 11: What to comment all?
Speaker 8: I said, Uh, but uh, I'm sure that he just
Speaker 8: get to.
Speaker 7: The ridicu New York over there.
Speaker 11: Weld good.
Speaker 10: Oh uh, mister Paty, thank you very much for talking
Speaker 10: to us, I said, I appreciate it.
Speaker 7: Thank you for calling.
Speaker 8: Oh right, good up now.
Speaker 4: Sorrman Petty, the manager of uh Buddy Holly in the.
Speaker 9: Cricket Buddy thought a million dollars with a Norman Petty
Speaker 9: because he owed him everything in the world to getting started.
Speaker 9: Norman took care of all of his money and uh
Speaker 9: everything he made, uh decided what to do with his money.
Speaker 9: He invested, and he was he wasn't gonna let him
Speaker 9: be an overnight sensash.
Speaker 4: And then you know, uh, a lot of the guys
Speaker 4: that they have two or three hit records and uh
Speaker 4: maybe even one, they make a fortune all of it,
Speaker 4: and uh pretty soon it's all gone again. But Norman
Speaker 4: wasn't gonna let that happened to buddy.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 4: But he had his money invested in in in different
Speaker 4: firms and things like uh uh uh record shops he
Speaker 4: was joining about. He called me one day and uh
Speaker 4: he talked about record shops and and uh what he
Speaker 4: wanted to do with some of his money. And uh,
Speaker 4: you know, he he wasn't gonna be uh here today
Speaker 4: gone tomorrow. He liked the feeling the money, and he
Speaker 4: was gonna make sure he's happy. And uh, there's more
Speaker 4: of the guys who think they had like that, you know,
Speaker 4: than he had a lot of the look like it.
Speaker 4: But uh, I think one of the greatest stories in
Speaker 4: the world is how the Crickets wrote That'll be to day.
Speaker 7: But he's best friend in high school.
Speaker 4: Well, Jerry Allison us as a drummer for the Crickets,
Speaker 4: and you'll hear Jerry in a little while. Jerry and
Speaker 4: Buddy's you know.
Speaker 9: We're real good friends in high school.
Speaker 4: And all through high school and and uh they lived
Speaker 4: in a lot together, and uh, the families are real
Speaker 4: good friends. And Jerry uh would like to write songs,
Speaker 4: you know, and he had a girl in California and uh.
Speaker 3: He uh he wrote a song one day far and uh,
Speaker 3: of course you've already heard it, Peggy Sue. Jerry wrote
Speaker 3: Peggy Sue, and then Buddy helped him out with it
Speaker 3: and they changed it up and became a million seller
Speaker 3: that were to be forgotten.
Speaker 4: And uh, not too long ago, I think you remember
Speaker 4: when uh we had Buddy Holly day here at cas
Speaker 4: why He Radio, and Buddy and the guys came down
Speaker 4: after their uh last trip in New York and they.
Speaker 10: Were on he had Sullivant Show.
Speaker 4: They came down and did their TV show that this
Speaker 4: last summer, and uh, we're going down for a couple
Speaker 4: of days, and and uh he was married two days
Speaker 4: before that the peg, he said, So you know, I
Speaker 4: sort of a vicious circle there. And uh, speaking of
Speaker 4: I I asked known him about uh uh about Buddy
Speaker 4: being married.
Speaker 7: And I only met his wife one time.
Speaker 4: She's realnicee Uh, but he's then twenty two years of age.
Speaker 4: He he he left uh by of you know, he
Speaker 4: got married six.
Speaker 11: Months and uh his wife, she was living in New York.
Speaker 4: They were married last August fifteenth. And her name is
Speaker 4: uh Maria Elena Santiago. She's a receptionist and uh uh
Speaker 4: but he told her to stop working and everything. He
Speaker 4: wanted her to stop working because he had another money
Speaker 4: to support him, and uh she told him no, she
Speaker 4: wanted to keep on working, you know, since uh, you
Speaker 4: know when they he's on the road so much and
Speaker 4: everything that uh she might as well keep working. And
Speaker 4: she was in the business does you're working? So the
Speaker 4: music company in New York, which uh published a lot
Speaker 4: of Buddies is and uh uh after six months it
Speaker 4: it's all gone the whole time. And uh, but one
Speaker 4: that was good to you a while ago, when uh
Speaker 4: the first big year they had, Uh, Jerry and Buddy
Speaker 4: went to see a a show called The Searchers with
Speaker 4: John Wayne. Remember a cowboy picture called The Searchers starring
Speaker 4: John Wayne. All the way through it, somebody say, yuh say, uh,
Speaker 4: but you know I'm going to kid here. John Wayne,
Speaker 4: and he'd say that'll be the day. Everything was, that'll
Speaker 4: be the day.
Speaker 8: That'll be the day.
Speaker 4: So they left the show and uh, Jerry said, let's
Speaker 4: write a song called That'll be the day. And they did,
Speaker 4: and uh, hey, that's pretty clever. Buddy uh wrote a
Speaker 4: lot of songs and uh uh you know a sort
Speaker 4: of trade. I like Paul Acker. He's recorded Pollack at
Speaker 4: team this time and uh uh he he They talught
Speaker 4: very much of each other because you know on the
Speaker 4: road that he depended on each other and everything. This
Speaker 4: is Jerry Allison, uh, who was Buddy's drummer and his
Speaker 4: very very closest friend.
Speaker 8: We talked to, uh Jerry.
Speaker 4: Uh, I guess it's been about uh an hour and
Speaker 4: a half ago. Jerry, hell us, ma'am, how you do it?
Speaker 12: Man?
Speaker 1: Well listen?
Speaker 4: Well hear about Buddy while to go on very shorty Gary.
Speaker 3: I was Offrey shocked man and uh listen Jerer, What
Speaker 3: to listen?
Speaker 4: Jerer?
Speaker 2: What to listen?
Speaker 1: Ger?
Speaker 4: What t listen? Ger? Very shorty hearing? I was Offrey
Speaker 4: shocked man and uh listen Jerier?
Speaker 3: What just listen?
Speaker 4: Ger? What the heary? He say over here? He came
Speaker 4: to the here and started.
Speaker 8: Uh over there when he's going where, Well they'll be
Speaker 8: in outside to live there here in the south, you know,
Speaker 8: and let him live up there, and so uh we
Speaker 8: walt with him at uh we're in love. Get the
Speaker 8: time it happened.
Speaker 4: The alder to you will still play his cricket smell
Speaker 4: no one.
Speaker 8: I don't know what would this now?
Speaker 4: You don't know yet? I sure do. Well, Uh, I'm
Speaker 4: I'm very short of hear Gerry, Hey listen, what about
Speaker 4: uh uh? What about his wife? Have you have you
Speaker 4: talked to her?
Speaker 13: Uh?
Speaker 4: She's in New York.
Speaker 8: Yes, now she wasn't wall him on the road.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 8: Uh I had a talk with her, but she's coming
Speaker 8: down here to love a h believe he is as
Speaker 8: have they said?
Speaker 4: The teen Yeah, uh never had a pat him send
Speaker 4: a chair. I guess his mother and daddy. Uh never
Speaker 4: had a pat him send a chat. I guess his
Speaker 4: mother and daddy. Uh No the Hannah pay him send
Speaker 4: pretty badny Yah. I know he was just getting started
Speaker 4: good that time. Everything he just began to go his
Speaker 4: way and everything, well do hear him? I'm sorry here, sirh.
Speaker 8: Well, I was thinking that for everybody. Sure is sad
Speaker 8: about the whole fang.
Speaker 14: Okay, okay, that was Jolie Allison one one that chirpin
Speaker 14: as great as you'll ever hear, boy, and he and Buddy.
Speaker 4: Were a very good friend. That was a big boppa
Speaker 4: right there. And uh shinned to the lace and putty
Speaker 4: face and the ponytail hanging down, which is saying all
Speaker 4: across the red, white and bluey not too many months ago,
Speaker 4: and uh the big Boppa brought it in the baby.
Speaker 4: Uh this is a tribute to Buddy Holly and uh
Speaker 4: was not taking any shids or anything, but Buddy is
Speaker 4: is uh one of the best friends I've ever had,
Speaker 4: and uh he he's the greatest guy in the world.
Speaker 4: And uh he was killed this morning, uh early this
Speaker 4: morning or last night in a in a plane crash
Speaker 4: in uh Mason City, Iowa. And along with him the
Speaker 4: big boppers there and also Richie Fallen. If there's anything
Speaker 4: a Buddies you wanna hear, I think we had just
Speaker 4: about everything.
Speaker 9: I heard.
Speaker 4: There's anything in particular, Buddies you wanna hear, because uh,
Speaker 4: We're gonna go on here and you know till they
Speaker 4: put us.
Speaker 8: Off over these cause.
Speaker 4: I I s didn't listen to him. A lot of
Speaker 4: these albums are scratched there because I play 'em one
Speaker 4: million times at home, and uh I I didn't.
Speaker 11: I didn't, I didn't.
Speaker 4: I don't ever play play high records because because I
Speaker 4: play 'em because he's a friend of mine too. But
Speaker 4: but I play because they're good, and uh, they're good
Speaker 4: rock and roll. So if you got something, my buddies
Speaker 4: you wanna hear, you call seventy two three or seven
Speaker 4: nine and one and all player, you know that song?
Speaker 4: And all I can say cause this is to him,
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, do it now? It's a song
Speaker 4: that uh uh, this showed the what what they call
Speaker 4: him rock and roll versatility. One thing about Buddy no
Speaker 4: one else could record his songs. And I've heard people
Speaker 4: say it since he said it, and people are here
Speaker 4: in town.
Speaker 9: And because nobody nobody could sing like Buddy, he sounds
Speaker 9: like he's crime, sound like a little girl.
Speaker 4: Crying a lot of times, you know. And all that
Speaker 4: and then among the guys is kind of a joke.
Speaker 15: Because you know, they kid him about it, and he
Speaker 15: took a good nature, but they should. They showed on
Speaker 15: one side of Buddy that you know that no one
Speaker 15: else could copy Buddy how I'm Gonna.
Speaker 1: Love You, cood Boy, and a lot of people loved
Speaker 1: Buddy Holly the day the music died. It's February third.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we switched gears. Ada Wooshner from Northern
Speaker 1: Kentucky's March for Life, which is coming up in just
Speaker 1: a moment, as promised the conversation with the Dea. Wooshner
Speaker 1: is the executive director for Kentucky Right to Life, a
Speaker 1: former representative in the Commonwealth, the elected official law woman
Speaker 1: is She says, I just imagine a with six guns
Speaker 1: on each side of a holsters and when she said
Speaker 1: law woman, but this is coming up, and I think
Speaker 1: it's so crucial for people who believe in the sanctity
Speaker 1: of life. Regardless of your religious persuasion or your convictions.
Speaker 1: I think it's very vitally important, this outward public display
Speaker 1: of people who are in it for life, all human life.
Speaker 1: Ada Wishner, welcome to the show for a few minutes.
Speaker 1: How are you.
Speaker 16: I'm great, Thank you for having me on today.
Speaker 1: Now. The reason I believe that the March for Life
Speaker 1: and events like it are so crucially important, and the
Speaker 1: turnout is also the more the merrier, as we say
Speaker 1: more the better is because we are not going to
Speaker 1: change things in this country vis a vis abortion and
Speaker 1: the sanctity of life by legislation or by the courts.
Speaker 1: It's only going to change by changing people's hearts and minds,
Speaker 1: and at a very grassroots, basic level. I believe now.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that the other efforts that have been
Speaker 1: undertaken are wrong or I just think they miss the
Speaker 1: point sometimes with what really has to change if we're
Speaker 1: going to save babies and save human beings. Would you
Speaker 1: like to speak to that for a moment.
Speaker 16: You're exactly right.
Speaker 13: I mean as a former lawmaker, even when I was
Speaker 13: a lawmaker, I would often say, we could ban abortion tomorrow,
Speaker 13: but there'll still be a scared, frightened, confused young woman,
Speaker 13: a culture that has been impacted from all these years
Speaker 13: where abortion was legal. And so here we are, you know,
Speaker 13: fifty two years after Row, we've had a Dobbs decision
Speaker 13: that's returned to the States. But what we've learned is
Speaker 13: this base see human right, this basic right to life,
Speaker 13: has to be It's almost like we have to teach
Speaker 13: it again.
Speaker 16: We have to learn it.
Speaker 13: We have to learn to joyfully embrace the dignity of
Speaker 13: every human person. And so that's why the marches continue.
Speaker 13: The march in Washington we're having We've always had a gathering,
Speaker 13: even when I was in the legislature of kentuckt your
Speaker 13: Rights to Life. It's always had a gathering at the
Speaker 13: capitol every year. But that's grown, and so we had
Speaker 13: a huge march last year, it's growing this year. And
Speaker 13: so again it's because we you know, we're we want
Speaker 13: to inspire others, especially this next generation, which really, uh,
Speaker 13: they're unbelievable, are the youth to embrace life, to embrace
Speaker 13: the dignity of every life. And so as we watch
Speaker 13: pro lifers come to the Capitol in Washington, now they're
Speaker 13: coming to their own state capitals.
Speaker 16: If you think about it.
Speaker 13: This is is the largest human rights demonstration that we
Speaker 13: can have when we gather together to celebrate the value
Speaker 13: and dignity and sanctity of every life. And that is
Speaker 13: the lesson that has to be lost loss. It's something
Speaker 13: that's been lost in our culture. But we have to
Speaker 13: work at changing hearts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the March for Life. Let's get down to
Speaker 1: the barebone specifics of when these events occur. There is
Speaker 1: a march for life here in northern Kentucky, Is there not, Well.
Speaker 13: It's going to be in Frankfort. Yes, it is Frankfort
Speaker 13: at the Capitol. And as I took a bus, because
Speaker 13: in that building is the seat of government. It is
Speaker 13: all three branches of government. It is the governor, the
Speaker 13: administrative branch, it is the lawmakers, and it is the
Speaker 13: judicial branch, all in one building. And we will stand
Speaker 13: before that building gathered together, bearing witness to the value
Speaker 13: and dignity of it every night. And so we're having
Speaker 13: our march on February twelfth, Wednesday, February the twelfth, and
Speaker 13: it's you know, it's a day that we that we
Speaker 13: will walk and march with hope, inspiring change and really
Speaker 13: to change.
Speaker 16: Hearts and save lives.
Speaker 1: So it's a week from this Wednesday, just like nine
Speaker 1: days away. What time? What time are people gathering there?
Speaker 16: Well, there are a couple things.
Speaker 13: There's opportunities if people want to go to church that morning,
Speaker 13: there will be a massive Good Shepherd at nine thirty.
Speaker 13: I know there's bus loads coming from northern Kentucky, Louisville, Owensboro,
Speaker 13: all over the state. A lot of young people will
Speaker 13: be at that mass that's nine thirty at Good Shepherd,
Speaker 13: and then they'll break, have some lunch and do some things,
Speaker 13: and then we'll gather begin together with a pre concert
Speaker 13: at the Capitol around eleven thirty and start gathering there,
Speaker 13: and then we will kick off at noon the rally
Speaker 13: and then and.
Speaker 16: We'll well, actually, what we'll do is we'll.
Speaker 13: Rally on this stuff with some great speakers, a lot
Speaker 13: of witnesses that have a story just that that gives
Speaker 13: value to life different circumstances, from adoption to being conceived
Speaker 13: and an act of violence, but their life had value
Speaker 13: to a mama bear hearing a diagnosis and standing for
Speaker 13: the life or her child, all bearing witness. And at
Speaker 13: that point we will then depart from the Capitol and
Speaker 13: head down Capitol Avenue. There's this kind of a two
Speaker 13: part march, so there will be the march, and then
Speaker 13: after we get to about second Street, school buses will
Speaker 13: pick up the students.
Speaker 16: The people will make the turn and.
Speaker 13: We will gather again at the gates of the Frankfort Cemetery.
Speaker 13: They'll be parking there. Then the Frankfort, Kentucky Cemetery, wherein
Speaker 13: that cemetery is the Kentucky Memorial.
Speaker 16: For the Unborn.
Speaker 13: So we'll gather there and at around one point five
Speaker 13: and we'll walk prayerfectly to the memorial, or there'll be
Speaker 13: a short prayer service in memory of all children who
Speaker 13: have lost their lives, whether through miscarriage are through abortion.
Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing you mentioned and I started at
Speaker 1: the beginning of this idea by saying, you know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what religious persuasion you are, or if you
Speaker 1: have religion or spirituality in your life, or whether you
Speaker 1: just go on a scientific I'm kind of both. I mean,
Speaker 1: I believe God created that life that's in the womb,
Speaker 1: and it is sacred for that reason, we are all
Speaker 1: made in the image of God. But also scientifically, if
Speaker 1: there's a heartbeat, if you can see fingers, if the
Speaker 1: ultrasounds don't lie, that is a living human being. It's
Speaker 1: not a collection of cells. So but the point I
Speaker 1: was going to make is, I just saw a survey
Speaker 1: that's out. It says gen Z and you're talking about
Speaker 1: how important the next generation is, or younger peeople are
Speaker 1: in this equation of rooting this awful atrocity out of
Speaker 1: our society. Sixty two percent of those gen zers actually
Speaker 1: are They say they are spiritual. They know there's a
Speaker 1: higher power, and that was the highest among baby boomers
Speaker 1: Gen X. So there is hope for our future.
Speaker 13: And they're an abundant blessing in that generation. And when
Speaker 13: I talk to them that they're inspiring to be with.
Speaker 16: You know, we do a scholarship for young people.
Speaker 13: There will be busses of young folks and the next
Speaker 13: generation and young families coming, and they are inspiring because
Speaker 13: they're the hope in the future of this nation. Of
Speaker 13: this are towns and cities and commonwealth. And when you've got,
Speaker 13: as you said, that percentage that are spiritual, and if
Speaker 13: we listen to them, that's where we grow from it.
Speaker 13: And so what you said to is our faith in God.
Speaker 13: If God is truth, created an image and likeness of God.
Speaker 13: So a lot of times we have a lot of
Speaker 13: you know, my background is I'm a nurse in biology
Speaker 13: and I'm a bioethosist, and a lot of times we
Speaker 13: ask a lot of complicated questions about peop believe this.
Speaker 13: What about this procedure? Because it's pretty simple. Do you
Speaker 13: believe you're creating the image and likeness of God?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Adia Wishner. Thank you so much for your time tonight.
Speaker 1: We're out unfortunately. Okay, Next Wednesday, February twelfth, at the
Speaker 1: state capital of Kentucky, Frankfort, Kentucky, the Kentucky March for Life.
Speaker 1: It's wonderful if you'd like to know more. Is there
Speaker 1: a place where people can go real quickly?
Speaker 13: Yes, they can go to ky marchflife dot org all
Speaker 13: spelled out or call our office five two eight nine.
Speaker 11: Nine.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you so much, Adia, and God bless you.
Speaker 1: All right, it's the nightcap and there is a whole
Speaker 1: lot more left to go. Seven hundred WLW one two
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Speaker 1: is coming up at fret Board Brewery and to talk
Speaker 1: about that. David Kale and Robert Jackson welcome, gentlemen. How
Speaker 1: are you doing.
Speaker 11: Hey, I'm great, I bless I'm above ground.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, me too, better than I deserve. That's
Speaker 1: how I'm I'm doing. So let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about this year's Autism Rocks lineup and the date and
Speaker 1: where it is, and you guys were with us. This
Speaker 1: is your second bite at the night Cap Apple talking
Speaker 1: about this. So let's continue the conversation in a new year.
Speaker 1: First off, for you, David Kale, how long you've been
Speaker 1: involved with Autism Rocks.
Speaker 17: Well, we started Autism Rocks back in twenty ten, was
Speaker 17: the first one.
Speaker 18: This will be our sixteenth.
Speaker 17: It was after we had had a benefit from my
Speaker 17: son Parker, who was diagnosed with autism back in two
Speaker 17: thousand and eight, and the event was so successful we
Speaker 17: decided to continue to do it to try to help
Speaker 17: other causes here in the Tri State area.
Speaker 1: Sure, and how is your son doing? If I can ask, Well.
Speaker 18: He's going to be twenty years old in just a
Speaker 18: few weeks. He's doing well.
Speaker 17: He still has some challenges due to his diagnosis.
Speaker 18: But he's a happy person, loved life.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's all any of us can hope for
Speaker 1: for ourselves or for our kids. Now, Robert Jackson, tell
Speaker 1: me about your involvement with Autism Rocks.
Speaker 19: Well, I got a phone call from a friend, Howie Kneel,
Speaker 19: and he said he had a friend that I had
Speaker 19: a son with Autism, which is Dave Kale, would I,
Speaker 19: you know, like, you know, join in? And I said, well,
Speaker 19: I'll see what I can do. And there's been a
Speaker 19: relationship ever since then, and that was what sixteen years ago.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, that's fantastic. Tell me about the venue for
Speaker 1: this year's event. Now, this is coming up Sunday, February sixteenth,
Speaker 1: so the Sunday after the Super Bowl, starting about noon
Speaker 1: or so. Tell me about where you're doing this, guys.
Speaker 18: It's at Fretboard Brewing.
Speaker 17: It's at the Blue Ash location at fifty eight.
Speaker 18: Hundred Creek Road.
Speaker 1: All right, fantastic, our second year doing there. And I
Speaker 1: see you've got a star stellar lineup here for Autism.
Speaker 1: Rocks formerly Cincinnati Red's Pitcher now incredible rock star Bronson
Speaker 1: Arroyo will be there starting at noon. He's lading things
Speaker 1: off right, that is correct.
Speaker 17: And then we reached over because the Boots of Collins
Speaker 17: Foundation has been doing so much for us in the
Speaker 17: past few years, I reached over to them and said, hey,
Speaker 17: would you like to take one of the artists from
Speaker 17: your stable and have them play for us this year
Speaker 17: at Autis and Rocks. So they chose a young man
Speaker 17: by the name of Manny Pemberton.
Speaker 18: He's going to follow Bronson, all.
Speaker 1: Right, fantastic. Also on the lineup stays in Vegas. What
Speaker 1: are they all about?
Speaker 18: My family connection there.
Speaker 17: My cousin is married to Ryan Clark, who is the
Speaker 17: drummer for them, and I went to him and said, hey,
Speaker 17: would you you think that your band would like to play.
Speaker 17: They're known here in Cincinnati as a corporate band, and
Speaker 17: they're very, very well established, and I think everybody's really
Speaker 17: gonna like him.
Speaker 1: Robert Any comments, No, I.
Speaker 11: Go and listen.
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, I get to meet new musicians.
Speaker 11: And I've seen some people that I've heard, you know
Speaker 11: back in the.
Speaker 19: Bengal days, like Oh, Dave, what's the fourth guy?
Speaker 6: Sif Guy?
Speaker 18: Oh Dangerous Jim.
Speaker 1: Dangerous Jim and the Slims have been around this town forever.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows Dangerous Jim.
Speaker 10: Yep heard him when he was young and I was
Speaker 10: young and had hair.
Speaker 1: And then the finale Jet Pack Academy at four PM.
Speaker 17: That's correct, that's Shaggy from another station that you know.
Speaker 17: He's part of that band, and that's how we reached
Speaker 17: the connection was getting to know him.
Speaker 18: And he plays drums. I believe in that band.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know Jeff Nagel. He's a great guy. He's full, wonderful.
Speaker 1: Well go yeah, all right, So if people want to
Speaker 1: get tickets real quickly, let's go through that. We how
Speaker 1: do we get tickets for Autism Rocks.
Speaker 17: Well, until this coming Saturday. There is a link on
Speaker 17: Sincy tickets and it's on our website and it's on
Speaker 17: our social media pages. And you will save five dollars
Speaker 17: off the door if you get your tickets in advance,
Speaker 17: but that sight only goes through the weekend. Once we
Speaker 17: hit the weekend, then everything else will be done at
Speaker 17: the door. It'll be fifteen dollars in advance, twenty dollars
Speaker 17: a day after the work.
Speaker 1: All right, fantastic Autism Rocks sixteen Sunday, February sixteenth, a
Speaker 1: week from this coming Sunday, the week after the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Fret Board Brewing Company and Blue Ash gentlemen, thank you
Speaker 1: so much and I wish you great success with the event.
Speaker 11: Hey, Jay, Gary, can I throw one more comment out there?
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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, gentlemen, rock On, Thank you.
Speaker 1: It's the nightcap and we're not done yet.
Speaker 20: U l W.
Speaker 1: As we turn the page here, not like Tim Tim
Speaker 1: Waalzer his wife turning the page, but as we turn
Speaker 1: the page in the program, the author of Unprecedented Assault,
Speaker 1: How Big Government Unleashed America's Socialists left a former congressional
Speaker 1: political analyst and policy advisor. He'd spent over three decades
Speaker 1: in and around DC politics. Poor guy, and now he's
Speaker 1: got to deal with me for a few minutes tonight.
Speaker 10: J T.
Speaker 1: Young joins us. JT. Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 10: Thank you so much for having me Gary.
Speaker 11: So much going on today.
Speaker 1: Oh I know, you know it didn't take long for
Speaker 1: Claudia Shine in Mexico to say, yeah, you know those
Speaker 1: twenty five percent tariffs, we don't really need to do that,
Speaker 1: Dewey Donald, and yeah you want the ten thousand troops
Speaker 1: back at the border on our side to kind of
Speaker 1: stem the flow of immigration, kind of like the first
Speaker 1: time you were in office. Okay, I think we can
Speaker 1: do that. You want to stop the flow of fentanyl
Speaker 1: into your country from ours, we can talk about that.
Speaker 1: Let's put a pause on those tariffs. And that's exactly
Speaker 1: what happened, right And.
Speaker 10: You know, I would bet in her case that she
Speaker 10: may well never say it publicly, but actually have welcomed
Speaker 10: the threat so that it allowed her to do what
Speaker 10: Mexico should have been doing in the first play. And
Speaker 10: I'm sure they would like to have control of their border.
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, everything we get here is certainly
Speaker 10: horrible of what we're getting, certainly with the fentanyl and
Speaker 10: illegal immigrant. But she's got her own problems with this too,
Speaker 10: and I think being able to go my hands the time,
Speaker 10: I mean, you see what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 11: He's gonna do it.
Speaker 1: He gave he gave her political cover in her country
Speaker 1: among her supporters. It'll be interesting to see how Canada falls.
Speaker 1: I you know, Trudeau is leaving, he's already said he's
Speaker 1: stepping down. It'll depend on who the next Prime minister
Speaker 1: is to see how that shakes out. But wonder of
Speaker 1: wonders with Columbia. That didn't take long, did it. People
Speaker 1: forget that Donald Trump wrote the book The Art of
Speaker 1: the Deal. That's that's what this has all been about
Speaker 1: the entire time, right, Yeah.
Speaker 10: I know, you're absolutely right, And you know, Justin Trudeau
Speaker 10: is the Joe Biden of the North. He's basically got
Speaker 10: pushed out by his own party. So uh you know,
Speaker 10: to you to your point, Yeah, America has the largest
Speaker 10: economy in the world, with the envy of the world,
Speaker 10: uh and Trump is willing to use that uh too
Speaker 10: to advance his policy initiatives. And I would think, you know,
Speaker 10: most Americans will will sit back and say, yeah, you know,
Speaker 10: I would rather him be using this threat of paraps
Speaker 10: than sending US troops into Mexico or or you know,
Speaker 10: a much more aggressive action. I think, you know, he's
Speaker 10: using a tool that's there, and you know, as you've
Speaker 10: already said, I think he's he's wielding it with some
Speaker 10: dexterity here, yeah, and he's getting and he's getting what
Speaker 10: he wants in virtually instantaneously.
Speaker 1: It's amazing just the warp speed at which he has
Speaker 1: been moving in his short time in office. JT Uh
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: to about his his appointees or his people he's nominated
Speaker 1: for cabinet positions that are still unsettled, the rf K Juniors,
Speaker 1: the Tulci Gabbards, the cash But tell I don't all
Speaker 1: of these people, whether you like them or agree with
Speaker 1: everything they say or stand for or not, are part
Speaker 1: of this what Greg Guttfeld called it a band of
Speaker 1: pirates that Trump has assembled, And I think that they're
Speaker 1: all They're all facing the fire that Donald Trump had faced,
Speaker 1: especially his first time in office, because he was there
Speaker 1: to disrupt and to upset the apple cart. And that's
Speaker 1: what these three people are are aiming to do if
Speaker 1: they get into these positions of power. Let's read the
Speaker 1: political Tea Leaves just for a moment, since she spent
Speaker 1: so much time around DC and the politics of it.
Speaker 18: J T.
Speaker 1: Young, RFK Jor Do you think ultimately he is confirmed?
Speaker 11: I do think he will be at some point.
Speaker 10: It comes down to counting heads and how many people
Speaker 10: will it be unanimous? No, I mean on the Republican side,
Speaker 10: and I'm sure none of these are going to get
Speaker 10: Democrat support, But.
Speaker 11: I think the.
Speaker 10: Prevailing feeling has always been for every president, which is
Speaker 10: these appointments are staff that we glorify them, we give
Speaker 10: them titles, they have buildings that technically they run, but
Speaker 10: at the end of the day, they're the president's staff.
Speaker 10: And never have they been more of the staff to
Speaker 10: a president than they will be to Donald Trump. And
Speaker 10: I think the feeling has always been on Capitol Hill
Speaker 10: that the president is allowed to have his own crew
Speaker 10: in place. And I think it kind of comes down
Speaker 10: to that, and most Republics are going to go if
Speaker 10: this is who he wants, that's that's that's his choice,
Speaker 10: and he deserves to have his people in place to
Speaker 10: carry out his agenda.
Speaker 1: Your comments on Tulci Gabbard, another member potentially of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's staff, I mean, what, personally, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about Tulci Gabbard and some of her stands on it
Speaker 1: passed on Edward Snowden and other issues.
Speaker 10: Well, I certainly don't agree on things that have been
Speaker 10: attributed to her. You know, I have not been in
Speaker 10: private meetings. I haven't heard her say, well, this was
Speaker 10: taken out of context. I didn't say that, and I
Speaker 10: can appreciate, you know, however she wants or however, she
Speaker 10: is explaining that, and certainly, as you mentioned on Eric Snowden,
Speaker 10: I don't support I don't support him, but you know
Speaker 10: what she's saying and how she's answering it. Has she
Speaker 10: been able to alleviate people's concerns? And yeah, are people
Speaker 10: allowed to change their positions over time?
Speaker 11: Yes? I think so.
Speaker 10: You know, you just have to convince us that you
Speaker 10: have in fact done that and seem sincere and reasons
Speaker 10: in how you're doing it. So I think again that
Speaker 10: most people are going to be willing to give her
Speaker 10: the benefit of the doubt. She would be the one
Speaker 10: I'm the most concerned about of the three.
Speaker 1: Kay, all right, Cash Betel uh, you know, he picked
Speaker 1: him up and knocked him down at his uh at
Speaker 1: the questioning I've seen so far, and he A lot
Speaker 1: of people are really worried about cash Betel becoming the
Speaker 1: head of the FBI because he has promised to get
Speaker 1: to the bottom of all of the weaponization of that
Speaker 1: organization and get it back to being a law enforcement
Speaker 1: organization and not uh, you know, a political tip of
Speaker 1: the spear for you know, even though you know they
Speaker 1: brought up his enemies list that he said he was
Speaker 1: putting together. But again, you saw the enemy's list of
Speaker 1: the FBI under Joe Biden and under Obama, and now
Speaker 1: you're seeing it on the other side. So there are
Speaker 1: a lot of very very nervous people within that organization,
Speaker 1: are there not?
Speaker 11: Yeah? And I think they should think.
Speaker 10: I mean, I think since there are, and they should
Speaker 10: legitimately be for what has transpired.
Speaker 11: In that organization.
Speaker 10: I agree, and the American people have a right to know.
Speaker 10: There have been some extremely questionable things that had the
Speaker 10: FBI has been used to pursue. And I think Donald
Speaker 10: Trump would be at the start of this list, and
Speaker 10: most Americans in the same place, which is the rank
Speaker 10: and file boots on the ground. FBI agents are people
Speaker 10: who put their lives on the line to protect America's interests.
Speaker 10: The question has been and I think will continue to
Speaker 10: be until legitimately I answered, who were the decision makers
Speaker 10: and explain to us how some of these decisions were
Speaker 10: made That seemed to be just what you were saying,
Speaker 10: an overt weaponization of the FBI for political purposes, and
Speaker 10: that that is dangerous and that's dangerous for anyone using it.
Speaker 11: And I think those questions, but.
Speaker 1: Jat didn't we we already know that when we saw
Speaker 1: the text from Peter Strock and Susan Page, didn't we
Speaker 1: know that an insurance policy against him and all of
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so, it's.
Speaker 10: Been clear for years, doright, And I think we need
Speaker 10: to have these thoroughly investigated, give us a give us
Speaker 10: a blue ribbon reading of what happened, why it happened,
Speaker 10: who was involved. I think again, you know, Joe Biden
Speaker 10: can tipe it, pardon everyone he.
Speaker 11: Wants to pardon.
Speaker 10: That should not stop investigations. And Americans have the right
Speaker 10: to know. And the best way to ensure things like
Speaker 10: this don't happen again is to have found out how
Speaker 10: they happened, if they happen.
Speaker 11: In the first place.
Speaker 10: And I think again that you're voicing what a lot
Speaker 10: of Americans feel, which is they don't have faith in
Speaker 10: their government. They don't have trust in the FBI. I mean,
Speaker 10: you and I probably grew up watching all of those
Speaker 10: shows where you know, FBI agents were at the top
Speaker 10: of the cream of the crop.
Speaker 21: In the FB.
Speaker 10: And you know we need it to be there. It
Speaker 10: should be there, and the agents who do the hard,
Speaker 10: dangerous work of the FBI I'm convinced they are there.
Speaker 10: They need to have their leaders ship exonerated and if
Speaker 10: necessarily replaced. Yeah, my people who are doing a non
Speaker 10: political law enforcement job.
Speaker 1: JT. Young, thank you so much for your time again,
Speaker 1: my friend, and I hopefully we will we will be
Speaker 1: able to do this again real soon.
Speaker 10: I look forward to it.
Speaker 11: Gary, enjoy it every time we.
Speaker 1: Talk, all right?
Speaker 11: J T.
Speaker 1: Young on the Nightcap and we roll on now from Florida.
Speaker 1: He's in Florida, of all places, and still finds time
Speaker 1: to talk to little old me Doomsday Dave patter our
Speaker 1: it guy, the tech guru, joins us with some more
Speaker 1: things that you should be absolutely frightened to death of tonight,
Speaker 1: including this. I saw this headline, Dave. And by the way,
Speaker 1: good evening. How are you.
Speaker 10: I'm good, Garry caff Always a pleasure to be here,
Speaker 10: even though I'm in Florida and apparently they're a pair
Speaker 10: in this building. I'm been down, as you can hear
Speaker 10: in the background.
Speaker 1: Well, that would be something to be definitely frighten full of,
Speaker 1: right there, Dave.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm a little worried this thing might collapse.
Speaker 18: I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if anything happens to you while we're doing this,
Speaker 1: remember I have the exclusive I appreciate that.
Speaker 10: That's all you all you man.
Speaker 11: Thanks, you have my guarantee on the scoop here.
Speaker 1: AI will supercharge cyber weapons within two years. Experts worn
Speaker 1: first and foremost, What are super What are what are
Speaker 1: cyber weapons?
Speaker 10: Well, Gary, Jeff, anyone that's been following AI has been
Speaker 10: worried about this for some time because you know, as
Speaker 10: it progresses, and I just want to rely on people.
Speaker 10: There's a lot of hypes that hyperbole out there when
Speaker 10: you read anything about AI. You know, some of the
Speaker 10: bloom is already off the road there, and you've got
Speaker 10: different types of AI. Some of it's that chat Ett
Speaker 10: type stuff and others are purpose built. But the confer
Speaker 10: here that they're raising, and it's been a concern for
Speaker 10: some time, is that as these tools get better and
Speaker 10: better and better, whether it's things like voice cloning, deep
Speaker 10: fake videos, or it's just the ability to run opposite
Speaker 10: scale because you know, human beings have to sleep eventually, right,
Speaker 10: So if I can spin up a data center that's
Speaker 10: got a bunch of AI agents in it that are
Speaker 10: running around the clock doing various in the various things,
Speaker 10: whether it's trying to scan your network and find the vulnerability,
Speaker 10: don't exploit, or it's trying to call your CFO and
Speaker 10: pretend to be your CEO because they captured the ce
Speaker 10: CEO's voice from a voicemail.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 10: It's it's as these tools get better and they create
Speaker 10: more convincing content, whether it's text or video or audio,
Speaker 10: and then you couple it at scale, because again, I
Speaker 10: can run these things twenty four by seven by three
Speaker 10: sixty five. They don't take a break, they don't call
Speaker 10: it sick. You know, as they improve both in their
Speaker 10: ability to create legitimate, appearing content and to run faster,
Speaker 10: you know, it does certainly create the specter of just
Speaker 10: NonStop attacks. Now Ideally, as a business, as an agency,
Speaker 10: as an entity of any type, you'd be using similar
Speaker 10: tools to try to defend against these things. And that's
Speaker 10: where you get into this this weird space of AI
Speaker 10: against AI. And you know where does that all go?
Speaker 10: I don't know. I'm not really going to sleep over
Speaker 10: at this point. I'll tell it again. I think a
Speaker 10: lot of this stuff is super overhyped, but I do
Speaker 10: think it's a risk. And as if technology progresses. You know,
Speaker 10: you're only going to see more and more of these
Speaker 10: sorts of attacks, especially the social engineering stuff with deep
Speaker 10: sake voice cloning and deep sake idiots. I mean that's
Speaker 10: already on your eyes.
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned at the top here, Dave, that humans
Speaker 1: have to sleep. I guess that means our president is
Speaker 1: Ai because he never seves to stop.
Speaker 11: I'm with you on that.
Speaker 10: He doesn't seem to stop stop to sleep. It's pretty incredible.
Speaker 10: But the pace of things they're.
Speaker 1: Doing, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 1: Chinese hackers use broad telco access to geolocate millions of
Speaker 1: Americans and record phone calls. They may be recording this
Speaker 1: phone call right now, Dave, for all we know.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm surprised they haven't cut a softiet Carriac deats
Speaker 10: since we seem to get on the topic of the
Speaker 10: PRC and the CCP on a regular basis. And you know,
Speaker 10: I think this story is really disturbing. And you know,
Speaker 10: no matter your view of the current administration or the
Speaker 10: previous administration, you've had government officials warning about the Chinese
Speaker 10: Communist Party and their infiltration into our infrastructure for a
Speaker 10: long time. You know, they're stealing trade secrets, they're stealing
Speaker 10: military secrets, They're stealing anything and everything they can get
Speaker 10: their hands on, because you know, why would you want
Speaker 10: to make giant investments in research and development that you
Speaker 10: can just steal the information you need from an American
Speaker 10: company sure, or steal the military secrets. You know, notice
Speaker 10: all of their new aircraft looks incredibly similar to ours.
Speaker 10: I don't think that's a coincidence. So when you see
Speaker 10: these things like this infiltration in the infrastructure, and I
Speaker 10: would point out, you know, if you can completely compromise
Speaker 10: the telecom network, which is what you know has been
Speaker 10: said for some time now, at least nine of the
Speaker 10: major telecom companies AT and TP Mobile, etcetera, had been compromised.
Speaker 10: And as far as I can tell, I haven't seen
Speaker 10: anyone saying that they're you know, they're confident that they
Speaker 10: have completely eliminated this infiltration. Okay, unless you're using encryption,
Speaker 10: which ironically the FBI has now come out and said
Speaker 10: is a good thing, despite fighting it for years, if
Speaker 10: not decades, it's a good thing because of this infiltration.
Speaker 10: I mean, anything you're sending through there that's not into
Speaker 10: D encrypted could potentially be captured and compromised. So, yeah,
Speaker 10: your location because your phone is constantly tracking you, right,
Speaker 10: it has to in order for it to do its job.
Speaker 10: You've got apps on there that are collecting data, including
Speaker 10: your location in many cases. So yeah, I mean, we're
Speaker 10: basically giving our number one adversary in the world all
Speaker 10: kinds of sensitive data about us, where we go, what
Speaker 10: we do, who we talk to, what we say. And
Speaker 10: you know, even if you're not concerned about that as
Speaker 10: an individual, think about what that means for the government.
Speaker 10: Think about what that means for military contractors or anyone
Speaker 10: dealing with any kind of sense and information. I know, well,
Speaker 10: we're amount of time, But did you have to seek Gary, Jeff,
Speaker 10: I don't think I sent you this article. It's recently
Speaker 10: been exposed and I think it's contact, but I might
Speaker 10: be wrong. I'm not in front of a computer. They
Speaker 10: make devices, and then now they've found backdoors in the
Speaker 10: medical devices that are potentially leaking your data to China,
Speaker 10: because of course these things were made in China. So
Speaker 10: you know, what could someone do with that? Well, would
Speaker 10: it be good to know that you might have a
Speaker 10: heart arrhythmia?
Speaker 11: Maybe?
Speaker 10: Again, I'm not I'm not a scientist. I'm not a doctor,
Speaker 10: but it just goes to show you that we've got
Speaker 10: to stop. Whether it's TikTok red note tamu fill in
Speaker 10: the blank, if it came from China, you should be
Speaker 10: suspect of it because they are not our friends. And
Speaker 10: we just see time and time again, whether it's you know,
Speaker 10: for infiltration and critical infrastructure like water plants, telecom, medical
Speaker 10: devices or whatever, it's a real problem. And I mean
Speaker 10: I lose a lot more sleep about this than AI
Speaker 10: super weapons at this point because it's happening, and we
Speaker 10: know it's happening here right right now.
Speaker 1: You mentioned about the planes, the Chinese planes that look
Speaker 1: exactly like ours, and this is basically stolen technology through
Speaker 1: these different routes they have to hack and to uh,
Speaker 1: you know, look in and listen in on everything we're doing.
Speaker 1: Is that where is that where the deep seek Ai
Speaker 1: came from? From China? They took our technology and they
Speaker 1: just did it cheaper. Is that the deal?
Speaker 10: Well, you know, even that is now starting to come
Speaker 10: under fire in terms of the original reporting on that.
Speaker 10: I don't know that you can ever believe anything they're
Speaker 10: telling you from China, but essentially, yes, assuming that any
Speaker 10: part of that story is true. So when that hit
Speaker 10: the news, you know, a cat took all the oxygen
Speaker 10: out of everything related to AI. Because the initial reporting
Speaker 10: was they built something that is roughly of equal capability
Speaker 10: to the best stuff from America like chat GPT, for
Speaker 10: a lot less money. It takes a lot less electricity,
Speaker 10: it takes a lot less powerful and expensive hardware to
Speaker 10: run it. Now again there's more information is coming out.
Speaker 10: It appears that much of that may not be true.
Speaker 10: And while it may be roughly equivalent in the capability,
Speaker 10: the uh the financial aspects of it, and they did
Speaker 10: it with a lot less power.
Speaker 11: Now it does.
Speaker 10: Appear they did They kind of took the the same
Speaker 10: idea we've been used and perhaps extracted a lot of
Speaker 10: the same data, and then just took an innovative approach
Speaker 10: to make this work the way that it does. So
Speaker 10: I'm not knocking that it is somewhat alarming that they've
Speaker 10: moved this far this fast, but I'm not sure Again,
Speaker 10: as more and more information comes out that it's really
Speaker 10: all that they cracked it up to be, and that
Speaker 10: you know, there's either some misunderstanding or some perhaps not
Speaker 10: truthful reporting on it. So I think it bears watching.
Speaker 10: And it's certainly not good that they might be that
Speaker 10: close to us in terms of capabilities when you think
Speaker 10: about it from like the weapon perspective. But I'm not
Speaker 10: sure it's all true.
Speaker 1: All right, well, I mean, build a better mouse trap.
Speaker 1: That's always the mantra, and we'll find out who can
Speaker 1: build the better mouse trap. I guess over time. Gmail
Speaker 1: now has confirmed a hack for a large number of
Speaker 1: people who if you use Gmail, it has been confirmed
Speaker 1: that there was an AI hack. And if you can
Speaker 1: just spend like a minute talking about that, that'd be great.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know, we don't have much time. Saw this
Speaker 10: hit the highlights. You know, anytime you're using one of
Speaker 10: these free mail platforms, first off, you should turn on
Speaker 10: all of the security capabilities they offer. That's going to vary,
Speaker 10: and then you just have to be increasingly skeptical, Gary
Speaker 10: Jeff because of where we started. Right as AI gets better,
Speaker 10: it's really easy to clone someone's voice. I cannot stress
Speaker 10: enough how easy it.
Speaker 18: Is to do this.
Speaker 10: It doesn't take any kind of skill or technical process whatsoever.
Speaker 10: There are free tools that will allow you to close
Speaker 10: someone's voice. All you need is a sample. So if
Speaker 10: I call your phone and you have a voicemail greeting
Speaker 10: I'm you in less than fifteen minutes, I promise you
Speaker 10: I can clone your voice. I've done it many times
Speaker 10: to show people this is real. And you know, now
Speaker 10: we're moving into a realm of video, possible real time audio.
Speaker 10: So you know, a lot of that femail scam you're
Speaker 10: talking about there involve people using legitimate email or Google
Speaker 10: services to cover their tracks and make it seem legitimate
Speaker 10: and get around some of the security capabilities. So, folks,
Speaker 10: you just got to be super skeptical. You've got to
Speaker 10: understand that virtually anything you get in digital form, especially
Speaker 10: if it's dancing, to do anything even remotely unusual or
Speaker 10: send money or anything, you should just stop dead in
Speaker 10: your tracks and verify out of band. You know, go
Speaker 10: to the source from a phone number you can verify
Speaker 10: or an email address you can verify. Is these scams
Speaker 10: are going to get worse before they get better, and really,
Speaker 10: awareness of skepticism of by far your best defenses at
Speaker 10: this point.
Speaker 1: Well, enjoy the rest of your construction vacation in Florida,
Speaker 1: dare Hatter.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Gary, Jeff, we'll talk to you real soon. Dave Hatter
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Speaker 1: Her name is Elena Barbara, a leading advocate for parental
Speaker 1: rights and anti grooming, a Christian mom, author and documentary filmmaker.
Speaker 1: And it's been a wonderful new world with Donald Trump
Speaker 1: so far. Elena, what do you think about some of
Speaker 1: these executive orders? Especially there are only two genders that
Speaker 1: the government will recognize, male and female. Apparently science finally
Speaker 1: caught up with the federal government. But any comments in
Speaker 1: all of this. Donald Trump has stopped federal support funding
Speaker 1: for gender affirming care for children, i e. Mutilation and
Speaker 1: adhering to some kind of mental illness. But your thoughts
Speaker 1: on any of this would be welcome. How are you good?
Speaker 12: Thanks for having me Gary.
Speaker 16: I am overjoyed.
Speaker 22: This one, I'm going to admit actually brought me to
Speaker 22: tears because I've been paying such close attention to this
Speaker 22: and seeing how this gender ideology is destroying children's lives
Speaker 22: now and their futures. So to have a president who
Speaker 22: is standing up as the most powerful person on earth
Speaker 22: to protect children is absolutely mind blowing after what we've
Speaker 22: seen the last few years, where we had the person
Speaker 22: in that position doing their best to harm children on
Speaker 22: part us. It's absolutely fantastic, not only for the children
Speaker 22: of today, but for their futures and the future of
Speaker 22: the country because what we're doing is we're like messing
Speaker 22: with their minds, messing with their bodies. The aftermath of
Speaker 22: this is going to already be enormous from all the
Speaker 22: children we've damaged in five, ten, twenty years. I mean,
Speaker 22: the mental health crisis we're going to have is going
Speaker 22: to make today's mental health crisis look like nothing.
Speaker 12: So it's ending. At least the damage is ending now.
Speaker 12: It's amazing.
Speaker 1: You talk about the surgical mutilation. That's one thing, but
Speaker 1: another thing is the introduction of all, you know, all
Speaker 1: these hormones to stop what naturally happens to any young
Speaker 1: body at that age. I remember being a teenager, I
Speaker 1: remember being not quite sure of a lot of things.
Speaker 1: You know, at ten, eleven, twelve years old, it all
Speaker 1: became much clearer when the testosterone kicked in. I could,
Speaker 1: you know, realize what I was intended to be as
Speaker 1: a human being, and there's been this denial of that
Speaker 1: by some people. I don't know if some of these
Speaker 1: parents who insist that their child must go through this,
Speaker 1: if they really love their children, you know, I would
Speaker 1: hope that they love their children. But they've been they've
Speaker 1: bought into this fad of transgender fluidity that the nation's
Speaker 1: been under the spell of for the last four or
Speaker 1: five years. And it really kicked in oddly enough or
Speaker 1: not not so oddly enough during the Biden administration. Right,
Speaker 1: what's going through parents' heads and they say, you know,
Speaker 1: I really think my little boy is a girl actually
Speaker 1: because of the way he acts. I mean, do they
Speaker 1: not remember the way they were when they were young?
Speaker 12: So that's exact.
Speaker 16: I mean, that's a great point.
Speaker 22: I mean, any normal parent would just look at their
Speaker 22: child and say, yeah, puberty is weird.
Speaker 12: We all went through it.
Speaker 22: Every adult on the planet went through it. Felt the
Speaker 22: same way, as you trust me, we're going to get
Speaker 22: through this and you're going.
Speaker 9: To be okay.
Speaker 7: That's it.
Speaker 16: That's all that really needs to be said.
Speaker 11: I mean.
Speaker 22: So instead, though, what they did was they created and
Speaker 22: it's referenced as junk science in the Executive Order they
Speaker 22: created and published junk science. And because sadly, the American
Speaker 22: education system has failed us, so many people read this
Speaker 22: junk science and believe it or they don't even bother
Speaker 22: to dig into it whatsoever. So an organization called the
Speaker 22: World Professional Association for Transgender Health put out all this
Speaker 22: information again junk science about transgenderism, and it is all
Speaker 22: brand new. It is all completely unfounded in reality, some
Speaker 22: of it is lies. And they held back information that
Speaker 22: they knew, and they told parents, this is really real
Speaker 22: what your child is going through, and we can help them.
Speaker 22: And if you you know, if you don't help your
Speaker 22: child to transition, that your kid's going to kill themselves.
Speaker 22: I mean, it's just this crazy extortion to get you
Speaker 22: to believe that your child is born in the wrong body.
Speaker 22: I don't know how anybody brought in but they did,
Speaker 22: and I think because they said, you know, it's quote
Speaker 22: unquote science. And some people anything conservatives are against, they'll.
Speaker 12: Before it doesn't matter how vile it is. They just
Speaker 12: want to be against us.
Speaker 1: I was talking with my wife the other the other
Speaker 1: day about this, when seeing how this paradigm has shifted
Speaker 1: now back to common sense and to what God intended
Speaker 1: thanks to President Trump and executive orders and this push,
Speaker 1: and you know, people voted, among other things, for this
Speaker 1: to happen in our country right now. And I said,
Speaker 1: I looked at her. This was about two years ago.
Speaker 1: I said, it's a fad, and it's a dangerous fad.
Speaker 1: I said, it's a more dangerous fad than the viral
Speaker 1: tide pods, for sure. It's it's just a fad or
Speaker 1: a fetish. And you cover this in the documentary American Groom,
Speaker 1: or tell folks about that documentary a little bit at Elena.
Speaker 22: So it's a documentary that I made that is about
Speaker 22: the sexualization of our children.
Speaker 16: In American schools.
Speaker 22: And right from pre K, we're telling children that you know,
Speaker 22: that they that they should be thinking about how they
Speaker 22: feel about their genitals, that they may be, you know,
Speaker 22: in the wrong body, that their parents may have gotten
Speaker 22: their gender wrong and confusing their minds. And then as
Speaker 22: they get older, we're introducing more and more sexual content,
Speaker 22: to the point of in middle schools and even in
Speaker 22: some elementary schools you can find the most erotic triple
Speaker 22: ax content that you have ever imagined in our public schools.
Speaker 22: And so we're sextualizing our kids in our media, in
Speaker 22: our music, on the internet, and now it's happening in schools.
Speaker 22: And you know, when people find out about it, they
Speaker 22: tend to deny it. But I lay it out in
Speaker 22: the film and explained how this happens and how damaging
Speaker 22: it is. And after they see the film then they say, okay,
Speaker 22: tell me Moore and what can I do? So they
Speaker 22: can watch the film for free at American grumorfilm dot com.
Speaker 1: You say, in thirty nine states it's perfectly legal to
Speaker 1: show your kids unbelievably hardcore porn in school. Where is
Speaker 1: that happening, Well.
Speaker 12: It's in three quarters of states right now.
Speaker 22: And the reason for that is these laws went into
Speaker 22: place in the fifties, sixties, and seventies. They're called obscenity
Speaker 22: exemption statutes. So if you show porn to a child
Speaker 22: at the mall or a coffee shop, you could leave
Speaker 22: in handcuffs and be charged with a crime. But if
Speaker 22: you show that same child that same porn within the
Speaker 22: confines of a school or a library, you will be
Speaker 22: exempted from criminal prosecution because you can say it was
Speaker 22: educational and it doesn't matter how vulgar the porn.
Speaker 12: It doesn't matter how young the child.
Speaker 1: Wow, I had no idea that that was. But again,
Speaker 1: it's these statutes going back to the what do you
Speaker 1: think that's what those statutes originally were intended to do?
Speaker 23: Well?
Speaker 1: Find it hard to believe in the fifties and sixties
Speaker 1: or was that where the indoctrination began.
Speaker 22: Well, the people that funded the model legal code for
Speaker 22: the statutes with the Rockefeller Foundation. The Rockefeller Foundation also
Speaker 22: funded al for Kinsey, who did this wonky sexual studies
Speaker 22: where he determined that children are sexual from birth and
Speaker 22: there's nothing wrong with sexualizing a child no matter how
Speaker 22: I mean, up from infancy. So yes, I do believe
Speaker 22: that was their ultimate goal.
Speaker 24: The way they sold it was to say, hey, we
Speaker 24: need to tell kids a little bit more about sex
Speaker 24: ed and we just don't want teachers getting in trouble.
Speaker 24: So it was devious, but I do believe that ultimately
Speaker 24: the goal was to normalize sex with children, because that's
Speaker 24: where the philosophy started with the Kinsey studies.
Speaker 1: Well, I think some of the part of that too,
Speaker 1: was that maybe parents weren't comfortable talking to their kids
Speaker 1: about sex and those things as they grew older and
Speaker 1: they just figured that they were going to take the
Speaker 1: parents place. You know, like Joe Biden says, for eight
Speaker 1: hours a day, those kids are ours, They're not yours, wrong,
Speaker 1: Joe American Groomerfilm dot com is where you can see it,
Speaker 1: and I recommend it. Good stuff, in depth research and
Speaker 1: the truth telling in there. Elena Barbera, the base mother,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for the few minutes tonight. Keep
Speaker 1: up the good fight and we will talk again.
Speaker 22: Soon, I hope, thank you anytime.
Speaker 1: All right, you bet it's the nightcap and we're not
Speaker 1: finished yet. Seven hundred WI my heart, it's song.
Speaker 11: Let me sing for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fly me to the moon, but just get to
Speaker 1: me my destination safely. That's all I ask. In the
Speaker 1: wake of a terrible week for commercial and medical aviation
Speaker 1: in our country last week, to say the least, I
Speaker 1: got my own aviation expert, a guy with twenty six
Speaker 1: years experience as a pilot, a commercial airlines pilot, and
Speaker 1: he's aviation. It's been his whole life. He co owns
Speaker 1: a plane with some buddies and he's now our guest
Speaker 1: tonight to discuss a little bit about what goes on
Speaker 1: in the air and on the ground, and especially specifically
Speaker 1: at Washington National Reagan National Airport in Washington, DC, where
Speaker 1: the horrible occurrence happened last week of the commercial airliner
Speaker 1: colliding with an army helicopter, sixty seven lives lost. And man,
Speaker 1: it's a busy airport. He's flown in there numerous times
Speaker 1: to talk about that and some other aspects of this topic.
Speaker 1: Ken Carly joins us Ken, good evening.
Speaker 25: Putting and Garret Jef, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 1: Doing fantastic. I'm glad. I'm glad we're out of January
Speaker 1: and into February. I'm looking forward to more sixty degree
Speaker 1: days like we had today, although I heard it's going
Speaker 1: to zoom back down to the bottom at the tail
Speaker 1: end of this week. Anyway, let's get to the subject
Speaker 1: at hand. You told me the other day when we
Speaker 1: were talking that you flew into Reagan National many times,
Speaker 1: me about that airport and about the short porch as
Speaker 1: they say, and all of the traffic that's.
Speaker 25: There, well, pilots, pilots like lots of concrete. Okay, the
Speaker 25: longer the runway, the better.
Speaker 18: Okay.
Speaker 25: I'd to hand me a two mile runway anytime. Unfortunately,
Speaker 25: an airport like that that's landlocked. I can recall the
Speaker 25: first time I went in there. I was I was
Speaker 25: the third pilot on seven twenty seven, many many years ago,
Speaker 25: and we did the river visual approach coming down the
Speaker 25: Potomac from the north, and it basically followed the river
Speaker 25: on when you have visual queues, there's actually lights on
Speaker 25: the bridges approaching, but they want you over the suner
Speaker 25: of the runway so that you know, the noise minimal.
Speaker 25: But when I saw the gyrations that you had to
Speaker 25: make to get in there and land, you know, a
Speaker 25: late turn if anybody's been in their landing south, a
Speaker 25: late turn right kind of around the Pentagon there to
Speaker 25: land south at at Washington National or Reagan. It's just
Speaker 25: you know, it was a little over a mile a runway,
Speaker 25: but it doesn't look that much. And of course with
Speaker 25: water at both ends, it's just not It's never been
Speaker 25: a real comfortable place. I think you get used to it,
Speaker 25: but it's not your first choice as to where you
Speaker 25: like going, much much like New York's LaGuardia is with
Speaker 25: you know, water on three sides.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So now, yeah, the introduction, the introduction of the military aircraft,
Speaker 1: the helicopter there, And did it make any sense to
Speaker 1: you that the helicopter apparently was at three or four
Speaker 1: hundred feet when the ceiling for that particular area is
Speaker 1: two hundred feet, that that is an unusual occurrence. And
Speaker 1: did you have to deal with any military aircraft while
Speaker 1: you were trying to land in that short porch at
Speaker 1: Reagan National.
Speaker 25: Well, you'd always see them passing up and down the
Speaker 25: river or maybe over the land, because there's obviously Coast
Speaker 25: Guard working there, Navy, Army, I mean Secret Service. There's
Speaker 25: constant air traffic around that area, and that's only increased
Speaker 25: since I retired, so I think you always saw it.
Speaker 25: But the interesting part about this when you land to
Speaker 25: the north there, like they were using arrivals to the north.
Speaker 25: They call that the Mount Vernon visual approach because the
Speaker 25: PLI is very similar, very close to the Woodrow Wilson
Speaker 25: Bridge and right near Mount Vernon, but the river on
Speaker 25: to the south of the airport's pretty straight, so you
Speaker 25: generally make a fairly straight in approach. The odd thing
Speaker 25: to me was this airplane was landing on runway three
Speaker 25: to three, which, if you don't know anything about runway numbering,
Speaker 25: it's the number on the runway is.
Speaker 18: The magnetic heading.
Speaker 25: So if you're landing on runway one, you're landing ten
Speaker 25: degrees just off the north in this case three three
Speaker 25: points to the northwest three hundred and thirty degrees. So
Speaker 25: they what they do is they use that runway three
Speaker 25: to three as a kind of an overflow if because
Speaker 25: runway one one nine at at Reagan is the busiest
Speaker 25: runway in the world, it's always got an airplane either
Speaker 25: to party on it or landing. And what happens is
Speaker 25: is that you you generally UH if they if the
Speaker 25: rivals start getting too close together and they can't get
Speaker 25: a departure out, they'll ask someone, hey, do you want
Speaker 25: to can you land for on three to three four
Speaker 25: US And that was a very rare occurrence. I don't
Speaker 25: think the larger jets don't do that, but some of
Speaker 25: the commuters and and some of the fixed wing UH
Speaker 25: propeller airplanes would do that. But the odd thing was
Speaker 25: is that they kind of acted that night of the
Speaker 25: accident like this was a normal procedure, and maybe it
Speaker 25: is more normal now. But you have to break off
Speaker 25: to the right and get near the shore on the
Speaker 25: other side of the Potomac and that's where a lot
Speaker 25: of that helicopter traffic is going north and south. So
Speaker 25: we never did that in the larger aircraft, but I
Speaker 25: can see where the commuters are probably asked to.
Speaker 18: Do that quite a bit.
Speaker 25: Just as a pilots hate to turn down controllers as
Speaker 25: long as you can turn them down and say no,
Speaker 25: I don't want to do that, but typically you want
Speaker 25: to all work together and if it's not an unsafe operation,
Speaker 25: you'll do it. But no way to tell this was
Speaker 25: going to turn out the way it did obviously.
Speaker 1: Well, we got about a minute left. Ken talking to
Speaker 1: Ken Carly a lifetime a career pilot, commercial Airlines pilot
Speaker 1: and he also flew commuters. But Ken, with about a
Speaker 1: minute left, just give me your thoughts, your first thoughts
Speaker 1: about what happened in Philadelphia with the med jet crashing
Speaker 1: into that neighborhood and a big fireball, and did you
Speaker 1: have any feelings there about what might have happened.
Speaker 25: Well, it's one of a couple things. To have a
Speaker 25: projectile come down like it did. There had to be
Speaker 25: some structural issues. It had to be some part of
Speaker 25: the aircraft maybe come off, and that can be due
Speaker 25: to extreme stresses on the airplane. Possibly could have been
Speaker 25: a maintenance issue that was left unresolved, but I think
Speaker 25: really it just it it was a loss of control.
Speaker 25: This wasn't something you know, you just when you have
Speaker 25: something come down that fas it's either stalled because of
Speaker 25: a problem on the airplane itself, one of the tail
Speaker 25: or a wing or you know, but typically it's a
Speaker 25: loss of control. And that's definitely they just got to
Speaker 25: figure out what caused that loss of control for them
Speaker 25: because it wasn't recoverable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's nothing to suggest that anything the faery
Speaker 1: has happened aboard the plane. Yet it doesn't sound like it.
Speaker 25: I mean, there was some speculation about some oxygen. I
Speaker 25: mean I did know about an accident way back that
Speaker 25: had an oxygen bottle explode because they were faring an
Speaker 25: airplane smoking and there was a leak and it caused
Speaker 25: an explosion. Well, I don't think I don't think this
Speaker 25: was a case. They certainly weren't smoking in an airplane
Speaker 25: with a metal patient on board, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Listen, thank you for your time, and we'll see at
Speaker 1: the bar.
Speaker 25: All right, No problem, Gary, Jeff, anytime, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Ken Carly on the Nightcap. As we continue one
Speaker 1: of the January sixth release Ease is on the way.
Speaker 1: Next on seven hundred WLW, George mass Gil It was
Speaker 1: the president of something called Reach exclamation Point exclamation Point United,
Speaker 1: a nonprofit launching a national campaign to hopefully dramatically reduce
Speaker 1: overdose deests and improve the access and quality of treatment
Speaker 1: for those fighting the disease of addiction. As we all know,
Speaker 1: and the President has made very clear, President Trump, that
Speaker 1: this is one of the priorities of his new administration,
Speaker 1: is stopping the flow of fentanyl. But what about those
Speaker 1: who have already succumbed to the addiction, died from ventanyl overdoses.
Speaker 1: There has got to be something to help the hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of Americans out of this miserable pit of
Speaker 1: despair that they have been plunged into because of addiction.
Speaker 1: An addiction is not new. We have alcohol addiction, we
Speaker 1: have all kinds of drug addiction. But the fentanyl crisis
Speaker 1: has become increasingly deadly and deadlier than anything we've seen
Speaker 1: in quite a while. To speak to that again, the
Speaker 1: president of Reach United, George Massingil, joins us to talk
Speaker 1: about some possible Solutions. George, welcome to the program. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you could say take some time out to get
Speaker 1: your message out on this and.
Speaker 11: Hello, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you having me on the show, and
Speaker 2: I appreciate you your introduction. And you're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 2: We have a major epidemic on our hands. I've been
Speaker 2: working in treatment industry for thirty seven years, and I
Speaker 2: don't think we could even imagine today what we imagine
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, what it would be like. I looked
Speaker 2: at a statistic about nineteen ninety one, we had four
Speaker 2: thousand overdose debts in the United States of America. We've
Speaker 2: had over one hundred thousand consecutively for nine years, not
Speaker 2: almost ten years. We've had a million young men and
Speaker 2: women die from fentanyl overdose in the last seven years.
Speaker 2: So you're talking about an epidemic beyond and I call
Speaker 2: it a pandemic because we've not really figured out how
Speaker 2: to stop it. We claim we slowed it down a
Speaker 2: little bit. I saw some statistics come out and that
Speaker 2: may be a little bit true. We've also lost one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand this last year that are out of the
Speaker 2: mix now, so I'm not sure how much we've slowed
Speaker 2: it down, but uh, we have a really drastic problem
Speaker 2: on our hands, more than I think the general public
Speaker 2: really even knows. I know we talk about it, but uh,
Speaker 2: you know, we're we're losing at a rapid rate young
Speaker 2: men and women under thirty years old who would be
Speaker 2: entering the workforce and are entering our service to fight
Speaker 2: for our country, and they're all dying. We are, we're
Speaker 2: losing them.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a hold. It's a whole generation.
Speaker 2: It's a generation. We're losing a generation. We we honestly,
Speaker 2: that's a great way to put it. I mean, when
Speaker 2: you when you think about three hundred individuals, A plane
Speaker 2: seven thirty seven plane slams the ground every day, seven
Speaker 2: days a week, and that three hundred people die seven
Speaker 2: days a week. And we've not even started to be
Speaker 2: able to stop that. We may have, we've still got
Speaker 2: a plane crash and every day maybe it's two hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy nine people a day.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it is a terrible, terrible situation.
Speaker 1: No, no consolation there, George. Let's talk about the new administration,
Speaker 1: and not that anybody's going to be able to come
Speaker 1: in and snap their fingers and stop this. But as
Speaker 1: far as stopping the flow of the poison coming into
Speaker 1: the country, is that at least just to start, do
Speaker 1: you think I do.
Speaker 2: I'm really glad to hear what the President's doing. I
Speaker 2: think it's fantastic. I think we have to we have
Speaker 2: to attack it that way at the border, both both borders,
Speaker 2: and that will help. I think absolutely. I think we
Speaker 2: have to. We have to launch an initiative at the
Speaker 2: mail with the mail as well, and use some technology.
Speaker 2: And I've heard that being kicked around that that hasn't
Speaker 2: come to the media yet, but that that there's a
Speaker 2: way to use AI and and our mail system and
Speaker 2: target potential places that they're dropping it now because we know,
Speaker 2: you know, we know, uh, you know places and overdoses
Speaker 2: are high and arrest are high. So the real quick
Speaker 2: answer is, yes, the President is making some bold steps
Speaker 2: on that front, and I think it will help. I
Speaker 2: think we have to do a lot more, but I
Speaker 2: think that helps.
Speaker 1: How is a reach United suggesting that we help those
Speaker 1: who are already suffering with the disease of addiction, especially
Speaker 1: of fentanyl. You're you're looking at a focus plan to
Speaker 1: allocate twenty five percent of opioid settlement to life saving
Speaker 1: initiatives that could save lives. Tell me about how this
Speaker 1: would work, George.
Speaker 2: We have a very focused approach at twenty five and
Speaker 2: we announced that Jerome Adams that's on our advisory committee
Speaker 2: was Trump's surgeon general in the last cycle. Jerome is
Speaker 2: on our team.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We made an announcement with Jerome a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: ago on DC. We are suggesting, begging, pleading, hopefully encouraging
Speaker 2: over the opio debatement dollars, the billions that have been
Speaker 2: one on the backs of the kids that have died.
Speaker 2: Let's take twenty five percent of that and spend that
Speaker 2: on putting overdose reversal drugs NARCAN, the locks on op
Speaker 2: the patagans drugs out into common areas where people can
Speaker 2: get those, like convenience stores. We just launched a project
Speaker 2: in Tennessee where we put out vending machine and then
Speaker 2: we're putting up billboards with the members of the Titans
Speaker 2: football team holding up a the locks on box saying,
Speaker 2: you know, please carrying the locks on. So we have
Speaker 2: a very focused approach that is saying, let's use twenty
Speaker 2: five percent of that money and let's flood this country
Speaker 2: with the locks on products overdose reversal drugs hop fee
Speaker 2: that can save lives until the death rate drops by
Speaker 2: twenty five percent, So until it gets down to sixty
Speaker 2: seventy thousand. Let's focus our money there before we do
Speaker 2: anything else, because we know that if someone is dying
Speaker 2: that we could squirt the locks on in their nose
Speaker 2: and save them. That's a terrible thing. And we think
Speaker 2: right now across the country that you know, we have
Speaker 2: a lot of fantastic people putting the locks on in
Speaker 2: health department, and there's a lot of people doing a
Speaker 2: lot of good work.
Speaker 11: But if I walk.
Speaker 2: Into a restaurant in town and say how many folks
Speaker 2: in here are carrying overdose reversal drugs, I'd say twenty
Speaker 2: I would say fifty percent doesn't even know what it is.
Speaker 2: So we have to change that narrative immediately and let
Speaker 2: folks know that you should. If you're a soccer mom
Speaker 2: carrying the lock Sohong, if you're a pastor carrying the
Speaker 2: lock song, if you're whatever, carrying the lockshoun. So that's
Speaker 2: our focus right now, primarily with Reach and twenty five
Speaker 2: is to get that message out and work with states
Speaker 2: and counties and cities to make that happen.
Speaker 1: Well. Saving lives is certainly the main thing, George, but
Speaker 1: preventing the addiction in the first place said, the role
Speaker 1: that pharmaceutical companies played, the role i e. The opioid settlements,
Speaker 1: the role that doctors played and hospital played in stoking
Speaker 1: the fire of this. I mean, has everyone fully been
Speaker 1: held to account for what they did?
Speaker 2: That's a hard question. It probably not, probably not. I
Speaker 2: think that that that that there's an attempt to do that,
Speaker 2: and that will go on, I think, And you know, well,
Speaker 2: you have to look at the situation was so ripe,
Speaker 2: and you're right, the pharmaceutical companies led the charge, which
Speaker 2: they do as you know in most cases, to the
Speaker 2: problems we have. You know, we're a medicine driven society.
Speaker 2: We're not really a pure society. We are through medicine
Speaker 2: at it because it makes people money. Yes, So when
Speaker 2: you look at that and you have a society that
Speaker 2: you think about it, you know we don't communicate. Well,
Speaker 2: we have the perfect storm going on. In the last
Speaker 2: fifteen years, we've lost the communication ability of families talking
Speaker 2: to each other, of just community has went away. For
Speaker 2: the most part, and we're all in this world of
Speaker 2: internet and da da da da dah.
Speaker 11: So when you do that and.
Speaker 2: Then you introduce a drug that addicts people immediately, you
Speaker 2: have the perfect storm. So, you know, has everybody been
Speaker 2: held accountable as they should to kill off a million people?
Speaker 2: Probably not, you know what I mean. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: we're not talking about a minor. Somebody didn't say what
Speaker 2: they ought to say. I really feel like, and you know,
Speaker 2: we talk a lot about this that you know, China
Speaker 2: now is sending fentanyl. I mean, that's the primary manufacturer
Speaker 2: of fentanyl, you know, And.
Speaker 25: And and we're we're at war with that.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you really think about it, it's an
Speaker 2: act of war to kill three hundred people a day.
Speaker 2: You know, you killing three hundred people a day in
Speaker 2: a country. So we have a lot I say that
Speaker 2: to say, there's a lot of people to hold accountable.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of countries to hold accountable. We're heading
Speaker 2: in that direction. I think we have an administration that
Speaker 2: uh and there's a lot there. I mean the president
Speaker 2: you have, but I think there's a lot of other
Speaker 2: people going into office right now that understand this.
Speaker 11: And we'll begin to put those pieces in place.
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Speaker 1: It's the nightcap on seven hundred WLW. One of many
Speaker 1: conversations that I have had with a J six defendant.
Speaker 1: And January sixth, twenty twenty one, as we all know,
Speaker 1: unless you've been living under a rock for the last
Speaker 1: ten years, protesters gathered at the US Capitol. They came
Speaker 1: first to hear Donald Trump at the Ellipse and he
Speaker 1: asked them, too, peacefully go to the Capitol and let
Speaker 1: your feelings be known about the twenty twenty election. And
Speaker 1: it was just it was another Trump rally that happened
Speaker 1: at the Capitol just before Joe Biden was going to
Speaker 1: eventually take office. And there are many people who were
Speaker 1: not happy about that event and how the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: election turned out. In fact, in the years since, in
Speaker 1: a court of law in Pennsylvania. A judge agreed that
Speaker 1: the election in that state was in fact illegal and
Speaker 1: the votes in Pennsylvania and been stolen. That's a matter
Speaker 1: of fact. I've talked to the lawyer on this program tonight.
Speaker 1: A J six defendant who was incarcerated was freed with
Speaker 1: a stroke of a pen by President Donald J. Trump
Speaker 1: on his first day in office. It took a while,
Speaker 1: but finally got out of the gulag, out of prison,
Speaker 1: and she is here to speak with us tonight. She
Speaker 1: is a mother of eight, a grandma, and someone who
Speaker 1: was patriotically and peacefully up to a point protesting at
Speaker 1: the Capitol on that day, and now she is finally
Speaker 1: out of the huscal. Rachel Powell joins us. Rachel, good evening,
Speaker 1: and thank you for being on the show.
Speaker 23: Thanks for having me. So good to hear our stories
Speaker 23: told finally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I want to know a little bit about
Speaker 1: your story. Tell me from beginning from you decide and
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to Washington. You're gonna hear President Trump.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go to the capital. Take me through that day, okay,
Speaker 1: and what you've done? All right?
Speaker 12: Sure?
Speaker 23: Well for me, it really starts.
Speaker 20: Before that day, I had gone to many protests because
Speaker 20: in my state of Pennsylvania, when COVID hit, they were
Speaker 20: telling us who's essential and who's not essential, and so
Speaker 20: I just was not okay with what was happening in
Speaker 20: our country. And so I've been going to protest and
Speaker 20: I believe in an election fraud for years. When Trump
Speaker 20: had that election stolen, to me, that wasn't surprising because
Speaker 20: I know that there's been problems with the voting machines
Speaker 20: for years, and so when he wanted us to go
Speaker 20: to DC, it was kind of like, finally, let's we're
Speaker 20: going to talk about the election fraud and these and
Speaker 20: these issues. You know, we're getting it's out in the
Speaker 20: open that there's these problems. But with Trump, it was
Speaker 20: so in our faith that everybody thought. Everybody saw the
Speaker 20: election problems that year. And so I went to DC
Speaker 20: and I could barely see Trump. He was like a
Speaker 20: little blip on a screen because I was way back
Speaker 20: at the Washington Monument, could barely hear him speak.
Speaker 12: And I went to the Capital ahead of most.
Speaker 20: People just because I couldn't hear him, I couldn't see him,
Speaker 20: So why not just head up to the Capitol, and
Speaker 20: I've been to f protest in DC.
Speaker 12: It's pretty normal.
Speaker 20: You go walk up the street, you walk around the Capitol,
Speaker 20: shouldn't be anything out of the ordinary. Usually we do
Speaker 20: some chance and we meet like minded people, and it's
Speaker 20: a lot of protests have a festive atmosphere, and so
Speaker 20: that's what I thought January sixth would me. But I
Speaker 20: get to the Capitol, there's still a barricade up around
Speaker 20: the capitol. It's a public side walk, and I was
Speaker 20: on the west side, which is considered the violent side
Speaker 20: of the Capitol, and the.
Speaker 23: Police were up on the balcony and they were just
Speaker 23: shooting down into the crowd of people not very long
Speaker 23: after I got there, and we were so confused, like
Speaker 23: why are they shooting us?
Speaker 20: And I know that they're supposed to be rubber bullets,
Speaker 20: but in those temperatures, it was like shooting rocks at us,
Speaker 20: and they're shooting down into the crowd. The guy near me,
Speaker 20: his name's Joshua Black. He got shot in his space,
Speaker 20: so I could look at a hole through his cheek,
Speaker 20: and then of course the pepper spray started and the tears.
Speaker 12: Well, uh, what do they called him?
Speaker 20: Flash bangs started and it just became very violent, and.
Speaker 12: That was so unexpected.
Speaker 1: Rachel, stop, stop just for a second. Why were the
Speaker 1: Capitol police shooting you? What? What was the crowd doing
Speaker 1: that deserved to have rubber bullets and flash flash bangs
Speaker 1: in their face? What were you doing when they were shooting?
Speaker 20: Well, that's what makes it so confusing, because we weren't
Speaker 20: doing anything out of the ordinary. We were standing on
Speaker 20: a public sidewalk holding signs. You know, we weren't doing
Speaker 20: anything violent. I didn't see anybody at that time trying
Speaker 20: to cause any trouble whatsoever, and so we were all
Speaker 20: very confused, and a lot of I saw grown men asking,
Speaker 20: you know, please and yelling at the.
Speaker 12: Police stop, please stop.
Speaker 20: We love you, you know. It was just very confusing.
Speaker 20: And at other protests, if something starts to get a
Speaker 20: little out of control, the police usually diffused the situation,
Speaker 20: and I've seen that done at other protests, but this
Speaker 20: was the opposite.
Speaker 12: It was being insided.
Speaker 20: And when we when the protesters were met with violence, Unfortunately,
Speaker 20: some of us became violent. But I don't believe that
Speaker 20: was the intention that day. I don't think that was
Speaker 20: supposed to happen. I just I just don't believe it,
Speaker 20: because if we went there with the intention to be
Speaker 20: insurrectionists and that's how the day went, we would be
Speaker 20: the worst insurrectionist ever. I mean, everybody's unarmed, you know,
Speaker 20: we show up for an insurrection with signs and d shirts.
Speaker 20: You know, it just doesn't make any sense. So yeah,
Speaker 20: I don't. I can't tell you why they were shooting
Speaker 20: us and acting the way that they were from the beginning.
Speaker 1: Well, what it's just very very much confuses me because
Speaker 1: you listen to the other side of the story, the
Speaker 1: weaponized DOJ side of the story, the FBI side of
Speaker 1: the story. Rachel and this mob was looking was out
Speaker 1: for blood, and all the lawmakers were in fear for
Speaker 1: their lives, and they were perpetrating violence against the Capitol police,
Speaker 1: and that's why the Capitol police responded the way they did.
Speaker 1: You're painting an entirely different picture for me. Although you
Speaker 1: did admit that some in your crowd they responded to
Speaker 1: the violence that was being incited with violence, and that happens.
Speaker 1: It's kind of human nature to do that. But why
Speaker 1: are they continuing to lie about a majority of the
Speaker 1: January sixth defendants as they continue to do to this
Speaker 1: very day. There and there are lawmakers and there are
Speaker 1: officials in law enforcement, particularly the FBI, that are insisting
Speaker 1: they didn't have informants or undercover agents in the crowd
Speaker 1: inciting the violence. Did you see anyone that looked like
Speaker 1: they really weren't part of your crowd, but they were
Speaker 1: in the middle of that crowd and they were the
Speaker 1: more violent ones. Did you see anyone in that crowd
Speaker 1: trying to incite the rest of you to violence?
Speaker 12: Rachel No, I didn't.
Speaker 20: I didn't see anybody that seemed out of the ordinary,
Speaker 20: But then the whole day was out of the ordinary,
Speaker 20: so it was just, you know, my understanding is when
Speaker 20: people were getting attacked some January sixth, people tried to
Speaker 20: stop those attacks, and when the barricades were being kidding
Speaker 20: just like the police were pushing the barricades on us,
Speaker 20: and when they kept doing that, it was protesters that
Speaker 20: removed those barricades.
Speaker 12: But we I didn't see.
Speaker 20: Anybody that was like, oh, I'm going to hurt the police,
Speaker 20: or let's attack the police. I didn't hear anybody saying
Speaker 20: let's take them down or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Do you think if if Donald Trump had been able
Speaker 1: to as he requested. He offered Nancy Pelosi and Chuck
Speaker 1: Schumer Uh the National Guard there, and he said it
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have taken too many to control, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever rebel rousers there were in the crowd that stormed
Speaker 1: the Capitol and Uh allegedly committed the violent acts. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like if there'd been National Guard there aiding
Speaker 1: the Capitol police, that a lot of this would not
Speaker 1: have occurred at all?
Speaker 20: Okay, I don't know if the Capitol police were doing
Speaker 20: it on purpose or if they're just not trained well.
Speaker 23: But I feel like if there was anybody trained.
Speaker 20: Well, and maybe that would have been with the National Guard,
Speaker 20: the day would have gone completely different. If the police
Speaker 20: just weren't shooting us from the beginning, and they would
Speaker 20: have just let us stand on the public side and
Speaker 20: can't and you know, meet each other at the end
Speaker 20: of the day, we would have all just gone home,
Speaker 20: just like at every other rally. And so, yeah, the
Speaker 20: National Guard probably would have made a difference, because I
Speaker 20: would assume that they're strained to handle the situation better.
Speaker 20: I don't understand why they weren't brought in in the
Speaker 20: first place, and that's one of those big questions, you know,
Speaker 20: why didn't been there and why didn't Pelosi bring them in?
Speaker 20: Because it was offered for help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Donald Trump offered the extra security through the National Guard,
Speaker 1: and it was up to Pelosi and maryel Bowser to
Speaker 1: decide whether they would accept or reject that, and they
Speaker 1: rejected it, and it kind of makes you question their reasoning.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if you can hang on just
Speaker 1: a second, I'm going to take a quick break and
Speaker 1: come back, because I want to hear about your time
Speaker 1: in the DC gulog and what they did to you
Speaker 1: as far as you know, the whole rit of Habeas
Speaker 1: corpus thing, and your ability to communicate with your attorneys,
Speaker 1: and all the other horror stories that I have heard
Speaker 1: from other J six ers. Rachel Powell is our guest.
Speaker 1: She's free now, free at last, Free at last, Thank
Speaker 1: God Almighty, She's free at last. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: with more in a moment. On seven hundred, WLW pardoned
Speaker 1: January sixth defendant Rachel Powell, who was on on January sixth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, in our nation's capital. She was one
Speaker 1: of the many who were scooped up by the Feds
Speaker 1: and accused of I don't know, parading and whatever other
Speaker 1: charge they could come up. Nobody was charged with insurrection,
Speaker 1: even though that's what we continue to hear happened on
Speaker 1: that day. Rachel Powell, you weren't in You say you
Speaker 1: weren't incarcerated in d What did you get arrested for? First?
Speaker 20: Okay, well, I've owned it this whole time. I did
Speaker 20: break the window on January six I was up at
Speaker 20: the tunnel when Roseanne boil And died and the whole
Speaker 20: situation was out of control. It was a six hundred
Speaker 20: dollars window, which is actually a misdemeanor charge because the
Speaker 20: windows less than a thousand dollars. But I didn't just
Speaker 20: get property destruction. I ended up with three felonies, one
Speaker 20: of which the Supreme Court said later on, you can't
Speaker 20: use against these January sixth people. And then I had
Speaker 20: six misdemeanors, so there were you know, civil disorder charges,
Speaker 20: and I mean, really, I should have been responsible for
Speaker 20: that window. I'm sorry for the window. I'm sorry for
Speaker 20: going places I shouldn't have been, but it was still
Speaker 20: blown out of proportion, and they ended up giving me
Speaker 20: almost a five year setence.
Speaker 1: Why did you break the window? Rachel?
Speaker 20: Well, I had just seen Roseanne boil and die while
Speaker 20: I heard die, and once I got to the bottom
Speaker 20: of the pile, she was just laying there and I
Speaker 20: thought I could give a CPR, but the police are
Speaker 20: probably just going to come out of this hallway and
Speaker 20: kill me too. And we had all heard that somebody
Speaker 20: had been shot at the Capitol. Who was now we
Speaker 20: know is Ashley bab It. Then we didn't know who
Speaker 20: she was. We just knew somebody was dead. And I
Speaker 20: went and I broke a window to see the layout
Speaker 20: of this other room that was beside us so people
Speaker 20: could fill it. And that's what happened. I didn't go
Speaker 20: there that day with the intended of, Oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 20: bus this capital up, but unfortunately I did. And yeah,
Speaker 20: so that got me almost five years for a sentence
Speaker 20: after a three year strict house arrest where I couldn't
Speaker 20: even go in the yard, couldn't take my kids for
Speaker 20: part of their medical appointments, couldn't go to the grocery store.
Speaker 12: A lot of the time.
Speaker 20: They decided I couldn't even go out to work for
Speaker 20: part of it.
Speaker 12: So for that three years that didn't.
Speaker 20: Count towards my time served at all, and then I
Speaker 20: had an almost five year prison setence given to me
Speaker 20: on top of that.
Speaker 1: All right, so where did they stick you?
Speaker 20: Yeah, I self surrendered to the SFF Hazleton, which is
Speaker 20: in Bruceton Mills, West Virginia. It is a terrible, awful
Speaker 20: it's it's the worst female prison in the United States.
Speaker 18: I see.
Speaker 1: I didn't get my Prisons monthly magazine, so I don't
Speaker 1: know there was a ranking, but it was the worst.
Speaker 1: You say it's the worst women's prison, and that's notorious
Speaker 1: for that, correct.
Speaker 12: That's correct.
Speaker 20: If you did an Internet search on it, you would
Speaker 20: see it's right at the top for the men's facilities
Speaker 20: for being near the top for the worst, but for
Speaker 20: women it is the worst. It's supposed to be a
Speaker 20: women's low, which I should have been in a camp,
Speaker 20: not in a in any kind of higher security prison,
Speaker 20: but they put me in a higher security prison because
Speaker 20: they considered me a domestic terrorist. And the facility is
Speaker 20: supposed to be just women's but it's not just a
Speaker 20: women's facility there. There are biological meal inmates there, which
Speaker 20: I guess they're finally removing. But I reports the house
Speaker 20: with them for a full year, and they're not just male,
Speaker 20: but they're all sex offenders that were there. You know,
Speaker 20: people that you just would never want to house with
Speaker 20: as a female, and they're You're locked in the cell
Speaker 20: most of your time, at least eleven to twelve hours
Speaker 20: a day, sometimes for days on end, where you have
Speaker 20: to share a toilet and the small space.
Speaker 12: With another human being. You're never alone.
Speaker 20: And on top of that, you know, there was basically
Speaker 20: no medical care. The roofs leaps terribly, so we had
Speaker 20: to catch the water coming in in garbage cans and
Speaker 20: it would run down the walls and set the fire
Speaker 20: alarms off. The water in multiple buildings of hot water
Speaker 20: didn't exist, wasn't a thing, so in the winter before
Speaker 20: I left Hazleton, we had cold showers there. And in
Speaker 20: visiting my family, they would come to see me almost weekly.
Speaker 20: My family, they're just amazing, And that prison was about
Speaker 20: three hours from home for my family, so my kids
Speaker 20: would come see me at least once a month, and
Speaker 20: then family and friends would rotate through there. And the
Speaker 20: prison didn't want me having visitors. They told me at
Speaker 20: the beginning, don't have your family come visit you here.
Speaker 12: But when they would.
Speaker 20: Come, each time I got an extra unnecessary stritzer which
Speaker 20: was done totally improper, they would refuse to give me
Speaker 20: a lunch. So if my family came to see me,
Speaker 20: forget it.
Speaker 12: I'm not going to I'm not getting lunch that day.
Speaker 20: And I could keep going on and on, but you know,
Speaker 20: you get the point of how terrible that prison was.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a it's a psychological kind of torture. There's
Speaker 1: no question about it. It's not just punishment. It is Uh,
Speaker 1: it's torture, period but plain and simple, that's what it's.
Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like to me. Were you denied
Speaker 1: access to your attorneys? What what happened when you would
Speaker 1: go to court? And uh, were they given evidence or
Speaker 1: I mean, what happened there?
Speaker 20: Well, I had to deal with that while I was
Speaker 20: on house wrecks, so I would have to travel out
Speaker 20: to DC for my hearings or do them on zoom
Speaker 20: from the house I was staying in. But they so
Speaker 20: I had access to my lawyers, but I didn't get
Speaker 20: my discovery, you know, the evidence against me until about
Speaker 20: cheeks before my trial. And it was this huge jump
Speaker 20: of evidence which was impossible to sort through, and so
Speaker 20: I felt very ill prepared to take my bench trial.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, well, I mean, are you starting to get back?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you let me ask you this? Are
Speaker 1: you upset? Are you? Do you feel regret about going
Speaker 1: to the Capitol on January sixth to exercise your First
Speaker 1: Amendment rights to readdress grievances with the government.
Speaker 20: Okay, well, I have huge regrets for my accents that date.
Speaker 20: I wish I could go back and change things, but
Speaker 20: I can't. That being said, I don't have any regrets
Speaker 20: as an American going to protests and rallies because America,
Speaker 20: do we even have an America. If we don't have
Speaker 20: a fair and free election, we don't. It controls every
Speaker 20: aspect of our life. So I think it's really important
Speaker 20: for Americans to be heard, especially on that subject, and
Speaker 20: for protests to get be able to keep happening without
Speaker 20: having to worry about long prison sentences. Because this is America,
Speaker 20: you know, this is not a third world country. And
Speaker 20: I'm just I'm so sad for what happened on that day.
Speaker 20: It just really shows where country has.
Speaker 12: Gone to and it's sad. So that's that's how I feel.
Speaker 12: About that.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like do you feel like we're on
Speaker 1: the right track again with the President Trump cleaning things out.
Speaker 20: The next four years are going to be maggnificent.
Speaker 12: He is already cleaning up and it's going to be great.
Speaker 1: All right, Rachel Paulla. I appreciate you telling your story
Speaker 1: with us tonight, and I'm so glad that you're out
Speaker 1: and the rest of the people that got pardon simply
Speaker 1: for you know, exercising their constitutional guaranteed rights of freedom
Speaker 1: of expression, freedom of speech, and the ability to assemble
Speaker 1: and air your grievances that you have with the government, because,
Speaker 1: after all, in this country, supposedly the government belongs to us.
Speaker 1: We don't belong to the government. All right, Rach, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Take care, God bless Rachel Powell j
Speaker 1: sixer now freed. Freed again on seven hundred wlw Uary third,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five with an old friend we welcome back.
Speaker 1: Have talked to him before, always enjoyed our conversations. He
Speaker 1: knows probably more than I do, which is always good.
Speaker 1: When you're a talk show host, you want to have
Speaker 1: people that are smarter than you on the air with you.
Speaker 1: Kenneth repose it joins us and Ken give me your
Speaker 1: give me your official stats. Where do you come from
Speaker 1: and what do you do? Yees?
Speaker 21: So I am a analyst with the Coalition for a
Speaker 21: Prosperous America and prior to that, I was a staff
Speaker 21: reporter for the Wall Street Journal in Brazil, and then
Speaker 21: after that I worked for Forbes covering the bricks and
Speaker 21: other emerging markets like Mexico for about eleven years. I
Speaker 21: left there in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Where is the bricks movement now? Is that still a
Speaker 1: real threat to the American dollar?
Speaker 21: I wouldn't say it's a threat to the American dollar,
Speaker 21: but I would say that the bricks movement as a
Speaker 21: group of large emerging ecmpanies, that's definitely growing.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 21: And let me tell you what you mentioned, the bricks dollar, right,
Speaker 21: So we're talking about tariffs and so on. So that's
Speaker 21: the news over the last two weeks with Trump. So
Speaker 21: you know, Trump had said that, you know, if the
Speaker 21: bricks are going to move away from the dollar, then
Speaker 21: they're going to be hit with one hundred percent tariffs.
Speaker 12: Right.
Speaker 21: Yeah, Now, the bricks only wanted to move, only discuss
Speaker 21: moving away from the dollar because they have seen what
Speaker 21: the US has done under the Biden government with their
Speaker 21: partner nations. They upstate basically froze well not basically, but
Speaker 21: they froze Russian Central Bank money that's never been done before,
Speaker 21: at least not in our lifetime. They think might have
Speaker 21: been done like during the Revolutionary War, but has it
Speaker 21: with the Bank of England. But it hasn't been done
Speaker 21: in our lifetimes. So all these countries you have to imagine,
Speaker 21: are saying, you know, if you're Brazil, you would think
Speaker 21: I'm one felled tree in the Amazon away from being
Speaker 21: sanctioned from by Europe and the United States for climate change.
Speaker 21: Or if you're African nation, you're thinking I'm one band
Speaker 21: pride parade away from not being able to get US aid. Okay,
Speaker 21: So you know, these are countries that have said that
Speaker 21: have said to each other in their you know, in
Speaker 21: their bricks meetings which they have once a year, is
Speaker 21: we're going to figure out a way to diversify away
Speaker 21: from the dollar, because if all of a sudden we
Speaker 21: find ourselves sanctioned, then we can't use the dollar for trade.
Speaker 18: It's going to be very disruptive for us. So we
Speaker 18: have to.
Speaker 21: Prepare for that. And that's why that talk of you know,
Speaker 21: the dollar no longer being in the reserve currency. That's
Speaker 21: where it stems from. Stems from the weaponization of the
Speaker 21: dollar as a sanctioned instrument that's never been used in
Speaker 21: the way that it's been used.
Speaker 1: Right well, and talk about the heavy handedness of using
Speaker 1: the dollar and tariffs. Donald Trump has made it clear.
Speaker 1: I mean he campaigned on this. You know, that's the
Speaker 1: one thing. I've been a Trump supporter for a long time.
Speaker 1: I've voted for the man three times now to be
Speaker 1: president of these United States of America. I And it
Speaker 1: was the same in the first term, even though he
Speaker 1: didn't know his way around the machine in Washington and
Speaker 1: got blindsided by all the persecution and everything that happened
Speaker 1: in his first term. But he has routinely, i mean
Speaker 1: religiously tried to do everything once he got into office
Speaker 1: that he campaigned on, and one of those things was
Speaker 1: bringing down prices and tariffs and charging other countries the
Speaker 1: tax so American's tax burden would be less and alone behold.
Speaker 1: You know, he signed the executive order and tariffs on
Speaker 1: Mexico and Canada at twenty five percent, on China, further
Speaker 1: tariffs on Chinese products, and and and and we're seeing
Speaker 1: all kinds of different results. But you know, the Democrats
Speaker 1: are going nuts because they're saying this tariffs are attacks
Speaker 1: on the consumer in America and it's going to cost
Speaker 1: us even more to buy eggs and gas and at
Speaker 1: all your i mean your comments on that.
Speaker 21: Okay, Well, first of all, these are comments from political
Speaker 21: operatives who exist to do one thing and one thing only,
Speaker 21: and that is belittle and you know, make nonsensical the
Speaker 21: thoughts of the opposition in this case Trump and his
Speaker 21: and his policies and his supporters as well. So they're
Speaker 21: out there like Chuck Schumer, he's going to be laughing
Speaker 21: about how haha, your corona's going to.
Speaker 10: Cost more money, ha ha.
Speaker 21: Avocados are going to cost more money, ha ha. Your
Speaker 21: super Bowl party.
Speaker 10: Is going to be so stupid ha ha.
Speaker 4: Lou.
Speaker 21: That's that's you know, that's what's going on. You almost
Speaker 21: see it in their face. They're gonna smirk when they
Speaker 21: when they're telling you that, you say, it's it's sophomorek really,
Speaker 21: and it's irrelevant because guess what. The tariffs on Mexico,
Speaker 21: the TAFT threat has already been removed, so your corona
Speaker 21: and your avocado is not going to cost more money.
Speaker 11: And let's not.
Speaker 21: Forget that California also has avocados, and we also make
Speaker 21: beer in this country.
Speaker 10: You don't need to get a corner if.
Speaker 21: You don't want to. And you know, if it costs
Speaker 21: twenty cents more than hey, if you can't afford that,
Speaker 21: well maybe you should just be drinking milk or water.
Speaker 1: Upper Midle I don't know. I don't know, Kenneth. Upper
Speaker 1: Midwest States get sixty percent of their gas from Canada,
Speaker 1: and that tariff there, that twenty five percent tariff on
Speaker 1: Canada would definitely EFFI effect prices at the pump, which,
Speaker 1: as you know, everybody knows, prices at the pump affect
Speaker 1: the price of everything else because it has to be delivered.
Speaker 21: So sure, absolutely absolutely. And now that tariff, if I
Speaker 21: remember correctly, was it was going to be a ten
Speaker 21: percent tariff. But let me say something that's very important
Speaker 21: here that a lot of people don't understand. It's very important.
Speaker 21: The tariff on Trump okay, the tasks on Mexico and
Speaker 21: Canada okay, and the ten percent additional tasks on China.
Speaker 21: These were what I called the help of brother out terriffs, right,
Speaker 21: These are tariff threats that are designed to exact concessions
Speaker 21: from another country, and the concession was we are putting
Speaker 21: these tariffs. We're using these emergency tariffs because we have
Speaker 21: a national security issue. We have a border crisis at
Speaker 21: most of the southern border, but growing in the northern border,
Speaker 21: and we have a fatanel crisis that has turned iconic
Speaker 21: American cities, parts of iconic American cities like San Francisco
Speaker 21: and Philly into sci fi dystopias. If you guys are
Speaker 21: not willing to help us fight this, if you're not
Speaker 21: willing to help us, because the previous government didn't care
Speaker 21: about it, but we do. And if you're not willing
Speaker 21: to help us, We're going to hit you with these tariffs.
Speaker 18: That's it.
Speaker 21: Yeah, Okay, So all Mexico and Can't has to do
Speaker 21: is say we are willing to help you. And we
Speaker 21: have seen because of meetings between the two sides, at
Speaker 21: least between Mexico the United States, already that Claudia Shinebaum,
Speaker 21: the President of Mexico, has said we will help you.
Speaker 21: And it makes sense that she would say that because
Speaker 21: Claudia Shinbaum did exactly what the previous government wanted her
Speaker 21: or wanted Amlo, you know, overdoor. The previous government wanted
Speaker 21: them to do, which was, let those caravans sail in,
Speaker 21: Let the people rattle the cages and rattle the fences
Speaker 21: at the border and barge in through customs, Let the
Speaker 21: customs Asians just sit there like the Keystone cops, and
Speaker 21: put them on a bus to go to the Roosevelt
Speaker 21: Hotel in New York City so they could go do
Speaker 21: whatever it is they're going to do, like it's Black Friday,
Speaker 21: the day after Thanksgiving and they're shopping for you know,
Speaker 21: a big screen tell exactly. So Trump is saying we're
Speaker 21: not going to do that anymore, and Mexico has said, okay.
Speaker 10: We agree, we're not.
Speaker 21: We're on your team. And because of that reason, Trump
Speaker 21: has already put a pause on those tariffs. Traffs have
Speaker 21: not even gone into.
Speaker 1: Effect yet Canada a one month pause. He's supposed to.
Speaker 1: He was to talk to Trudeau a second time today.
Speaker 1: I know he spoke with him earlier in the day,
Speaker 1: and I don't think the situation in Canada will be
Speaker 1: as easy because we really don't know who the next
Speaker 1: prime minister of that country is going to be Trudeau
Speaker 1: was on his way out. He's already announced he's stepping down.
Speaker 1: So you're not going to be dealing with Trudeau. You
Speaker 1: might be dealing with a friendlier prime minister in Canada
Speaker 1: because there is a large conservative movement in that country
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 21: Correct Or the worst case scenario, you could be dealing
Speaker 21: with Christia Freeland, who would be She's a Davos girl.
Speaker 21: She would be terrible for the Trump administration. The New
Speaker 21: York Times would love her. They would see her as
Speaker 21: the president of the Americas.
Speaker 10: Actually so, but we.
Speaker 21: Do not know. So Again, I want to just say
Speaker 21: to your listeners, is that the most important thing to
Speaker 21: understand what Trump with tariffs is this what we saw
Speaker 21: with Columbia, with Mexico and with Canada. This is a
Speaker 21: threat to exact conceps. If I'm asking you to do something,
Speaker 21: help a brother out. If I'm asking to help me
Speaker 21: out and you don't do it, okay, I'm gonna punish
Speaker 21: you because this is this is just not right. If
Speaker 21: you do do it, the punishment is removed, and then
Speaker 21: the other tasks, as you auted to earlier, would be
Speaker 21: what's called the revenue taft to collect revenues. You could
Speaker 21: cut taxes in the United States, especially the Tax Cutting
Speaker 21: Jobs Act, which expires next year or maybe even the
Speaker 21: end of this year. Or to punish countries and sectors
Speaker 21: that overproduce and dump product in the United States, as
Speaker 21: in the case in China or as a case in
Speaker 21: Global Steel, for example, you would go after those sectors.
Speaker 21: So that's that's Those are the three prong strategy approach
Speaker 21: of Trump.
Speaker 18: With Terras, We're.
Speaker 1: Talking with Kenneth Proposa on the Night Camp and ken
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a just a quick break and we'll
Speaker 1: come back and finish up, because I'm gonna hit you
Speaker 1: with some stuff that I just heard today on the
Speaker 1: news about the h the green News scam and another
Speaker 1: another another domino just fell today. Uh it's the nightcap
Speaker 1: on seven hundred w lws stick around today. And I
Speaker 1: can't remember the name of the company that got all
Speaker 1: of the tax breaks and the grants from yours and
Speaker 1: my tax money during the Obama era, all in the
Speaker 1: way of sustainable green energy, you know, when the push
Speaker 1: really really started. But it reminded me so much of
Speaker 1: another Obama era boondoggle that was Celindra, where he granted
Speaker 1: half a billion dollars to this company, which of course
Speaker 1: eventually ran out of money and went bankrupt, leaving all
Speaker 1: of us on the hook for that half billion. You
Speaker 1: wonder how you get to You wonder how you get
Speaker 1: to thirty six trillion. It's a half billion at a time.
Speaker 1: And that's what's been going on. Well, this new they
Speaker 1: had a big mirror. What it was was data. These
Speaker 1: mirrors not solar panels, but mirrors installed in the Mojave
Speaker 1: Desert in California that supposedly was going to be a
Speaker 1: boon for energy producing and you know, more efficient and
Speaker 1: economically friendly, and Californians were made to buy their energy
Speaker 1: by the state, made to buy their energy from this company,
Speaker 1: and it was five times higher than they were paying
Speaker 1: before for their electricity. They had giant mirrors out in
Speaker 1: the desert that would they would retain the sunlight and
Speaker 1: shoot it to towers that boiled water and produced electricity.
Speaker 1: Was that they called it to a bird killer, just
Speaker 1: like wind farms. It was a bird killer because the
Speaker 1: sun that the heat coming off these mirrors from the
Speaker 1: direct sunlight as birds flew over, was just incinerating them
Speaker 1: in the air well apparently this company that was doing
Speaker 1: this has said that they're shutting down and they just
Speaker 1: can't make any money and they're losing money, of course,
Speaker 1: even though they were the golden ticket to a new
Speaker 1: age and energy another Obama era bust. So any comments
Speaker 1: on that and situations like that can wow.
Speaker 21: Yes, I did not hear about that, and I wish
Speaker 21: I did it because I have a comment, a better comment,
Speaker 21: But I.
Speaker 10: Could tell you something from a bigger picture.
Speaker 21: So let's say you're Obama and I don't remember the
Speaker 21: cylinder story too much, but you're giving a billion dollars
Speaker 21: a year to Solindra at this company to make solar
Speaker 21: panels and solar right, Yeah, that's what you're going to do.
Speaker 21: You could because you want American solar. Okay, that's that's
Speaker 21: a good idea.
Speaker 18: You want American made solar.
Speaker 21: Okay, Fine, we're gonna help you out, but you don't
Speaker 21: put tariffs on anything. So you forget that most of
Speaker 21: the solar supply chain and most of your solar competitors
Speaker 21: are in China, and they are just going to produce
Speaker 21: so many solar panels and solar cells and these things.
Speaker 11: It's like a.
Speaker 21: Global commodity like like soybeans, that they're going to drive
Speaker 21: the price down. So if you're a big utility company,
Speaker 21: right like let's say, however, your big utility provider is
Speaker 21: in a in your neck of the woods, we build
Speaker 21: a solar farm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have Duke Energy in this area.
Speaker 21: Yeah, so do Duke says we're gonna build a solar
Speaker 21: farm because the government's gonna.
Speaker 10: Help us out.
Speaker 21: Well, I could buy these solar panels from Solindra for
Speaker 21: five dollars, but I could buy these from.
Speaker 1: Asia for a dollar.
Speaker 21: What do you think Duke Energy is gonna do? So
Speaker 21: you cannot have a situation where you're subsidizing a company
Speaker 21: like Solindro or x y z Cord that's making solar
Speaker 21: and you're not protecting that market from your main competitor
Speaker 21: who's gonna underprice.
Speaker 1: You all day long.
Speaker 21: So the thing with the thing what we saw with
Speaker 21: the Inflation Reduction Act, for example, which is which is interesting,
Speaker 21: was another attempt to do what Obama tried to do.
Speaker 21: We're gonna give tax incentives to companies that produce soling.
Speaker 21: I think because we don't want fossil fuels, we want
Speaker 21: to go solar, and we want American made solar. Well,
Speaker 21: the interesting thing with the Inflation Reduction Act and and
Speaker 21: and UH insensitivizing domestic solar is that again mostly all
Speaker 21: the solar produces in the world are Chinese. So the
Speaker 21: Chinese is saying, Okay, we're gonna avoid those, you know,
Speaker 21: some of these solo tafts, so we're gonna move to
Speaker 21: the United States. Then we're gonna make solar factors. And
Speaker 21: I state.
Speaker 10: So a lot of the Inflation of Reduction Act.
Speaker 21: Tax incentives which you get a tax break for producing
Speaker 21: for making solar. Right, so you made one thousand dollars
Speaker 21: worth of solar, you can write thousand dollars off your taxes.
Speaker 21: Let's say that's the simplest terms of explaining it to
Speaker 21: you to your listeners. A lot of the companies who
Speaker 21: are benefiting from the Inflation and Reduction Act, oddly enough,
Speaker 21: well not oddly enough, other Chinese solar companies that come
Speaker 21: in here. So it's it's a crazy story. It's a
Speaker 21: mixed up policy with the energy policy that force people
Speaker 21: into renewables when it's driving up energy costs and you
Speaker 21: are not doing as much as you can to block
Speaker 21: you know, uh, the entrance of lower priced Chinese solar.
Speaker 21: If you want to have a domestic sol it would
Speaker 21: be like us saying, okay, we love oil or we
Speaker 21: don't like oil because we don't like O pack. But
Speaker 21: at least OPEK is you know, six seven nations, right, Okay,
Speaker 21: But now you're saying, we're not going to do OPEC.
Speaker 21: We're not gonna do oil and gas anymore, We're just
Speaker 21: going to do solar.
Speaker 10: But solar is one nation.
Speaker 21: It's China, and China dominates the entire solar market. So
Speaker 21: if you want to build an American solar American solar companies,
Speaker 21: you have to come up with some sort of protective measures,
Speaker 21: including things like tax incentives. But you have to combine
Speaker 21: the two. Otherwise you're want to end up with a
Speaker 21: solindro because they're just not going to be able to compete.
Speaker 21: They're not gonna make ends meet because the ultimate buyer,
Speaker 21: like a DO Energy's going to say, I could buy
Speaker 21: from China for half the price, I'm not going to
Speaker 21: buy from you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Kenneth, this is the whole thing. And the
Speaker 1: problem with solar and wind is that sometimes the sun
Speaker 1: doesn't shine, sometimes the wind doesn't blow, that oil and
Speaker 1: that natural gas is in the ground, it is ready,
Speaker 1: it is ripe for the picking. Donald Trump insists he
Speaker 1: was going to do everything he could to drill baby drill,
Speaker 1: frack baby frack and get us back on track as
Speaker 1: the dominant energy leader in the world again. We won't
Speaker 1: need to worry about OPEK. Really seriously, we have enough
Speaker 1: natural resources in this country. And it's clean energy without
Speaker 1: being you know, green energy. It's clean energy because the
Speaker 1: technologies come so far, especially liquid natural gas, that we
Speaker 1: don't we really don't have to rely on Canada or
Speaker 1: Venezuela or Opex Saudi Arabia at all if we just
Speaker 1: untaped the wealth of resources we have in this country.
Speaker 1: And that's what Donald Trump is targeting to do.
Speaker 21: Well, yes, and exactly. And the more supply you have
Speaker 21: in the United States as well, that sort of impacts
Speaker 21: the global oil pasture. Unfortunately, oil is a global commodity, right,
Speaker 21: so we produce too much oil. That's the problem. If
Speaker 21: America produces too much oil, then unless the Saudis or
Speaker 21: the Iraqis decide, or the Venezuela decides, they're going to
Speaker 21: produce less than the soil than the oil price falls,
Speaker 21: which is great for you and I at the gas pump.
Speaker 21: But then for the big oil company say hey, look
Speaker 21: I can't have twenty dollars barrel oil. I'm not going
Speaker 21: to make any money. Your everything sort of goes in balance.
Speaker 1: You know, you got you got to play that game
Speaker 1: of balancing it just right. But yeah, more American produced
Speaker 1: energy I think would be welcomed by most people in
Speaker 1: this country.
Speaker 21: Kenneth, absolutely, and less less you know, imported solar or
Speaker 21: imported from your wind. And again, if you want to
Speaker 21: have solar and wind, that's fine, I think. So if
Speaker 21: you had solar on your house and a big Tesla
Speaker 21: batter in your basement, you could electrify your house with
Speaker 21: solar from your rooftop. Then that might be when you
Speaker 21: become an independent prow producer yourself, that might be a great,
Speaker 21: a great solution. But when it's like a big solar
Speaker 21: farm taking up one hundred acres of former farmland down
Speaker 21: for my house, which actually is the thing, and wind
Speaker 21: turbines on the horizon line of my beach by the dozens,
Speaker 21: which is actually a thing now, and my energy bill
Speaker 21: has gone my electric bill has gone up thirty three percent,
Speaker 21: which is also a thing because Matthewsts decided they're going
Speaker 21: to mandate solar and win. Sixty percent of your electricity
Speaker 21: have to come from that tenders and no one supports that.
Speaker 1: Well, it might be a good time to move, Kenneth.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. Brother, as al
Speaker 1: was Kenneth reposa on the nightcap. As we close things out,
Speaker 1: how about our star spangled banner to honor America. We'll
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