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Good Evening, Gary Jeff Walker on this February third, 2 00:00:04.919 --> 00:00:10.000 twenty twenty five, parkening back sixty six years as we 3 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:12.359 start tonight's show, and the show's pack got lots of 4 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:15.599 great stuff, but we're going to start with American history 5 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:24.039 on the radio and the day the music died, the day. 6 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:29.679 When you say goodbye, the day when you made me come. 7 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:33.520 You know, it's a lot. 8 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:37.119 The day that. 9 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:40.799 Was quite a day for fans of Buddy Holly, the 10 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:44.960 Big Bopper, Richie Vallens, and tonight we open up with 11 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:51.240 an archived internet broadcast from KYSD nine to ninety AM 12 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:54.719 and Wichita Falls, Kansas by a guy named Snuff Garrett, 13 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:57.399 who went on was a good friend of Buddy holly'spack 14 00:00:57.439 --> 00:01:00.719 in Lubbock, Texas, but went on to be an incredible 15 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:04.879 hit making record producer for years for Share, Sonny and Share, 16 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:07.400 and I mean so many that I can't even mention. 17 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:11.879 But he decided to do an on air tribute that 18 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:18.560 night after the plane had crashed carrying those legendary three performers. 19 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:22.120 And here's a little bit of that, including with Buddy's 20 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:25.680 manager Norman Petty and also the drummer for the Crickets, 21 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:31.040 Jerry Allison snuff Garrett remembering Buddy, Holly Patty. 22 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:34.760 Yeah, this is stuff Garrett and can't Buddy and which talkball? 23 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:39.120 Fine, thank you, And I don't know I never met 24 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:43.159 you personally, but everyone knew in the recording industry is 25 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:45.439 the miker and founder of the Crickets, Buddy in the point. 26 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:48.280 And of course you've had a lot of it. 27 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:50.159 You had a lot to do with that coup, you know, 28 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:53.519 Thank you very Buddy was a great guy, and he 29 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:55.959 was probably one of the finest young talent. 30 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:57.239 That's true. 31 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:01.000 And he started out, you know, you know, not doing 32 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:03.599 too much around the love, just uh trying like twenty 33 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:04.680 eight thousand other boys did. 34 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:06.439 And he was lucky enough to make it, of course, 35 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:09.439 with your help. Uh what uh h have you gotten 36 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:12.080 any other word on on uh? What what's happened up there? 37 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:14.280 What's not the only thing I have received? Uh a 38 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:17.400 college point from Indiana, Uh from one of. 39 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:20.960 Our radio stations plants up there after he said that, uh. 40 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:22.840 The only thing he had heard was that the plane 41 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:25.919 what a private plan that uh the three other fellas 42 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:29.360 have a pilots. So there was poor as far as 43 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:30.560 we cat gatted. 44 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:33.479 Yeah, there wy uh Richie Allen's and the Big bober 45 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:36.199 Ride and Buddy and I believe the pilots, Yeah, the 46 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:36.759 pilot too. 47 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:37.560 Huh. 48 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:39.800 Uh, well, Buddy had been playing he played a shott 49 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:42.599 there last night and he's did I see and uh 50 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:44.120 and there's only his way to the next time. 51 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:46.879 Uh, let's see. Uh No, how long has blood he 52 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:47.319 been married? 53 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:47.479 Now? 54 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:52.319 Well, let see, Uh he's taught me off guard. 55 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.280 I I out very long now, it's about about four months. 56 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:56.240 I probably four or. 57 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:58.159 Five or four or five months and. 58 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.960 Uh his words, his wife in New York, see New York, she's. 59 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:01.319 In New York. 60 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:04.319 I'm I'm I'm certainly sorry about it. 61 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:08.800 And uh and uh I'm I'm I'm very sorry that. 62 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:10.360 You don't bother you like that. 63 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:14.360 Well, uh, things like that happened or the nothing and 64 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:15.000 we could. 65 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:16.680 Be to a cl room princestan. 66 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:18.919 Well, wonder why anything like it do happen? 67 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:21.759 Notssarily, of course, there's always bound to be a reason somewhere. 68 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:24.719 Uh n none does does. But he have many more 69 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:27.159 records McCanns, and he have. 70 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:30.000 Two more uh that we did in New York. 71 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:32.840 You know, he usually why you or nobody Taul ankus 72 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:33.520 uh tall. 73 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:35.800 Al ideas, right, who'll have two of us who have 74 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:38.719 done at the same time, and that I have uh 75 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:43.159 whole probably something here at mccam here at quote, I say, uh, 76 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:44.520 he was supposed to go and put up. 77 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:47.439 A station for next week. Oh uh you know Iver, 78 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:49.800 the one that we been there and the one that 79 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.120 I have here, the only one that we player. I say, 80 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:53.639 well he uh. 81 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:56.240 Uh, I I guess uh you'll you'll well you putting 82 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:56.879 most of those out. 83 00:03:56.919 --> 00:03:58.879 I hope you will some of those out. 84 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:00.960 The last all he had record there? 85 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:04.400 What you like to raf? Hey? I? Uh, what you 86 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:05.240 we he talk about? 87 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:06.039 What to comment all? 88 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:09.240 I said, Uh, but uh, I'm sure that he just 89 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:09.840 get to. 90 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:11.080 The ridicu New York over there. 91 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:12.520 Weld good. 92 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:15.199 Oh uh, mister Paty, thank you very much for talking 93 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:16.360 to us, I said, I appreciate it. 94 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:17.240 Thank you for calling. 95 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:19.000 Oh right, good up now. 96 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:21.800 Sorrman Petty, the manager of uh Buddy Holly in the. 97 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:25.519 Cricket Buddy thought a million dollars with a Norman Petty 98 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:27.800 because he owed him everything in the world to getting started. 99 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:30.000 Norman took care of all of his money and uh 100 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:32.800 everything he made, uh decided what to do with his money. 101 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:35.399 He invested, and he was he wasn't gonna let him 102 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:36.959 be an overnight sensash. 103 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:39.759 And then you know, uh, a lot of the guys 104 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:41.920 that they have two or three hit records and uh 105 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:43.759 maybe even one, they make a fortune all of it, 106 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:46.759 and uh pretty soon it's all gone again. But Norman 107 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:48.120 wasn't gonna let that happened to buddy. 108 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:48.720 Uh. 109 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:51.240 But he had his money invested in in in different 110 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:54.519 firms and things like uh uh uh record shops he 111 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:56.319 was joining about. He called me one day and uh 112 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:58.800 he talked about record shops and and uh what he 113 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.199 wanted to do with some of his money. And uh, 114 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:04.560 you know, he he wasn't gonna be uh here today 115 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:06.399 gone tomorrow. He liked the feeling the money, and he 116 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:08.720 was gonna make sure he's happy. And uh, there's more 117 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:10.000 of the guys who think they had like that, you know, 118 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:11.199 than he had a lot of the look like it. 119 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:14.839 But uh, I think one of the greatest stories in 120 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:17.680 the world is how the Crickets wrote That'll be to day. 121 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:19.560 But he's best friend in high school. 122 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:22.839 Well, Jerry Allison us as a drummer for the Crickets, 123 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:27.560 and you'll hear Jerry in a little while. Jerry and 124 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:28.160 Buddy's you know. 125 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:29.879 We're real good friends in high school. 126 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:31.720 And all through high school and and uh they lived 127 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:34.079 in a lot together, and uh, the families are real 128 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:37.680 good friends. And Jerry uh would like to write songs, 129 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:41.879 you know, and he had a girl in California and uh. 130 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:45.800 He uh he wrote a song one day far and uh, 131 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:48.720 of course you've already heard it, Peggy Sue. Jerry wrote 132 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:50.680 Peggy Sue, and then Buddy helped him out with it 133 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.120 and they changed it up and became a million seller 134 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:54.240 that were to be forgotten. 135 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:56.519 And uh, not too long ago, I think you remember 136 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:58.720 when uh we had Buddy Holly day here at cas 137 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:00.879 why He Radio, and Buddy and the guys came down 138 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.240 after their uh last trip in New York and they. 139 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:04.120 Were on he had Sullivant Show. 140 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.319 They came down and did their TV show that this 141 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:09.279 last summer, and uh, we're going down for a couple 142 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:11.839 of days, and and uh he was married two days 143 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:13.759 before that the peg, he said, So you know, I 144 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:17.120 sort of a vicious circle there. And uh, speaking of 145 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:20.959 I I asked known him about uh uh about Buddy 146 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:22.759 being married. 147 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:24.360 And I only met his wife one time. 148 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:27.720 She's realnicee Uh, but he's then twenty two years of age. 149 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.600 He he he left uh by of you know, he 150 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:31.480 got married six. 151 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:35.800 Months and uh his wife, she was living in New York. 152 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:39.360 They were married last August fifteenth. And her name is 153 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:43.920 uh Maria Elena Santiago. She's a receptionist and uh uh 154 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.639 but he told her to stop working and everything. He 155 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:48.600 wanted her to stop working because he had another money 156 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:50.959 to support him, and uh she told him no, she 157 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.399 wanted to keep on working, you know, since uh, you 158 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:55.720 know when they he's on the road so much and 159 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:58.120 everything that uh she might as well keep working. And 160 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:00.040 she was in the business does you're working? So the 161 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:02.399 music company in New York, which uh published a lot 162 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:06.920 of Buddies is and uh uh after six months it 163 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:11.279 it's all gone the whole time. And uh, but one 164 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:13.240 that was good to you a while ago, when uh 165 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:16.759 the first big year they had, Uh, Jerry and Buddy 166 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:18.839 went to see a a show called The Searchers with 167 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:22.680 John Wayne. Remember a cowboy picture called The Searchers starring 168 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.240 John Wayne. All the way through it, somebody say, yuh say, uh, 169 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:26.839 but you know I'm going to kid here. John Wayne, 170 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.199 and he'd say that'll be the day. Everything was, that'll 171 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:29.759 be the day. 172 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:30.360 That'll be the day. 173 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:32.759 So they left the show and uh, Jerry said, let's 174 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.480 write a song called That'll be the day. And they did, 175 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:41.360 and uh, hey, that's pretty clever. Buddy uh wrote a 176 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:43.199 lot of songs and uh uh you know a sort 177 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:45.519 of trade. I like Paul Acker. He's recorded Pollack at 178 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.639 team this time and uh uh he he They talught 179 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:50.079 very much of each other because you know on the 180 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:52.399 road that he depended on each other and everything. This 181 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:54.879 is Jerry Allison, uh, who was Buddy's drummer and his 182 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:56.439 very very closest friend. 183 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:58.560 We talked to, uh Jerry. 184 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:00.600 Uh, I guess it's been about uh an hour and 185 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:03.240 a half ago. Jerry, hell us, ma'am, how you do it? 186 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:03.480 Man? 187 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:04.160 Well listen? 188 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:06.600 Well hear about Buddy while to go on very shorty Gary. 189 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:10.839 I was Offrey shocked man and uh listen Jerer, What 190 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:12.040 to listen? 191 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:12.319 Jerer? 192 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:13.839 What to listen? 193 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:14.120 Ger? 194 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:18.279 What t listen? Ger? Very shorty hearing? I was Offrey 195 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:21.240 shocked man and uh listen Jerier? 196 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:22.720 What just listen? 197 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:26.639 Ger? What the heary? He say over here? He came 198 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:27.839 to the here and started. 199 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.560 Uh over there when he's going where, Well they'll be 200 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:32.320 in outside to live there here in the south, you know, 201 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:35.519 and let him live up there, and so uh we 202 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:38.759 walt with him at uh we're in love. Get the 203 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:39.399 time it happened. 204 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:41.639 The alder to you will still play his cricket smell 205 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:42.000 no one. 206 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:43.480 I don't know what would this now? 207 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:47.679 You don't know yet? I sure do. Well, Uh, I'm 208 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:50.279 I'm very short of hear Gerry, Hey listen, what about 209 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:52.759 uh uh? What about his wife? Have you have you 210 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:53.399 talked to her? 211 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:54.039 Uh? 212 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:55.000 She's in New York. 213 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:56.679 Yes, now she wasn't wall him on the road. 214 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:56.960 Now. 215 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:59.120 Uh I had a talk with her, but she's coming 216 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:01.600 down here to love a h believe he is as 217 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:02.120 have they said? 218 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:04.639 The teen Yeah, uh never had a pat him send 219 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:07.200 a chair. I guess his mother and daddy. Uh never 220 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:09.480 had a pat him send a chat. I guess his 221 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:11.759 mother and daddy. Uh No the Hannah pay him send 222 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:14.240 pretty badny Yah. I know he was just getting started 223 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:16.799 good that time. Everything he just began to go his 224 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.039 way and everything, well do hear him? I'm sorry here, sirh. 225 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:22.879 Well, I was thinking that for everybody. Sure is sad 226 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:23.720 about the whole fang. 227 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:30.519 Okay, okay, that was Jolie Allison one one that chirpin 228 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:36.000 as great as you'll ever hear, boy, and he and Buddy. 229 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:37.679 Were a very good friend. That was a big boppa 230 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:39.759 right there. And uh shinned to the lace and putty 231 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:42.639 face and the ponytail hanging down, which is saying all 232 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:44.720 across the red, white and bluey not too many months ago, 233 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:47.600 and uh the big Boppa brought it in the baby. 234 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:51.519 Uh this is a tribute to Buddy Holly and uh 235 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.279 was not taking any shids or anything, but Buddy is 236 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:56.600 is uh one of the best friends I've ever had, 237 00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:59.759 and uh he he's the greatest guy in the world. 238 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:04.600 And uh he was killed this morning, uh early this 239 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:08.039 morning or last night in a in a plane crash 240 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:12.000 in uh Mason City, Iowa. And along with him the 241 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:16.320 big boppers there and also Richie Fallen. If there's anything 242 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:17.960 a Buddies you wanna hear, I think we had just 243 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:18.639 about everything. 244 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:18.960 I heard. 245 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:22.440 There's anything in particular, Buddies you wanna hear, because uh, 246 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:24.279 We're gonna go on here and you know till they 247 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:24.759 put us. 248 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:26.360 Off over these cause. 249 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:29.039 I I s didn't listen to him. A lot of 250 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:30.879 these albums are scratched there because I play 'em one 251 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:34.000 million times at home, and uh I I didn't. 252 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:34.799 I didn't, I didn't. 253 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:38.000 I don't ever play play high records because because I 254 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.039 play 'em because he's a friend of mine too. But 255 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:42.480 but I play because they're good, and uh, they're good 256 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:44.320 rock and roll. So if you got something, my buddies 257 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:46.679 you wanna hear, you call seventy two three or seven 258 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:49.720 nine and one and all player, you know that song? 259 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:52.799 And all I can say cause this is to him, 260 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:56.080 and uh, you know, do it now? It's a song 261 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:59.200 that uh uh, this showed the what what they call 262 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:03.240 him rock and roll versatility. One thing about Buddy no 263 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:05.360 one else could record his songs. And I've heard people 264 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:07.919 say it since he said it, and people are here 265 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:08.320 in town. 266 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:13.120 And because nobody nobody could sing like Buddy, he sounds 267 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:14.840 like he's crime, sound like a little girl. 268 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:16.919 Crying a lot of times, you know. And all that 269 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.120 and then among the guys is kind of a joke. 270 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:22.120 Because you know, they kid him about it, and he 271 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:25.559 took a good nature, but they should. They showed on 272 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:28.279 one side of Buddy that you know that no one 273 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:30.320 else could copy Buddy how I'm Gonna. 274 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:32.360 Love You, cood Boy, and a lot of people loved 275 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:35.799 Buddy Holly the day the music died. It's February third. 276 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:39.639 Coming up next, we switched gears. Ada Wooshner from Northern 277 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.960 Kentucky's March for Life, which is coming up in just 278 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:48.519 a moment, as promised the conversation with the Dea. Wooshner 279 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:51.879 is the executive director for Kentucky Right to Life, a 280 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:57.399 former representative in the Commonwealth, the elected official law woman 281 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:02.519 is She says, I just imagine a with six guns 282 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:04.639 on each side of a holsters and when she said 283 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:09.519 law woman, but this is coming up, and I think 284 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:12.639 it's so crucial for people who believe in the sanctity 285 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:20.759 of life. Regardless of your religious persuasion or your convictions. 286 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:25.559 I think it's very vitally important, this outward public display 287 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:30.679 of people who are in it for life, all human life. 288 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:33.320 Ada Wishner, welcome to the show for a few minutes. 289 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:33.759 How are you. 290 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:36.919 I'm great, Thank you for having me on today. 291 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:39.519 Now. The reason I believe that the March for Life 292 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:42.919 and events like it are so crucially important, and the 293 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:48.120 turnout is also the more the merrier, as we say 294 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:54.440 more the better is because we are not going to 295 00:12:54.639 --> 00:13:00.279 change things in this country vis a vis abortion and 296 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:04.559 the sanctity of life by legislation or by the courts. 297 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:08.720 It's only going to change by changing people's hearts and minds, 298 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:13.720 and at a very grassroots, basic level. I believe now. 299 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:15.919 It doesn't mean that the other efforts that have been 300 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:21.080 undertaken are wrong or I just think they miss the 301 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:25.120 point sometimes with what really has to change if we're 302 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:28.919 going to save babies and save human beings. Would you 303 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:30.480 like to speak to that for a moment. 304 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:32.360 You're exactly right. 305 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:35.039 I mean as a former lawmaker, even when I was 306 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:38.879 a lawmaker, I would often say, we could ban abortion tomorrow, 307 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.000 but there'll still be a scared, frightened, confused young woman, 308 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.840 a culture that has been impacted from all these years 309 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:51.080 where abortion was legal. And so here we are, you know, 310 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:54.200 fifty two years after Row, we've had a Dobbs decision 311 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:58.799 that's returned to the States. But what we've learned is 312 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:04.320 this base see human right, this basic right to life, 313 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:06.879 has to be It's almost like we have to teach 314 00:14:06.919 --> 00:14:07.279 it again. 315 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:08.080 We have to learn it. 316 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:12.639 We have to learn to joyfully embrace the dignity of 317 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:16.120 every human person. And so that's why the marches continue. 318 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:20.480 The march in Washington we're having We've always had a gathering, 319 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.200 even when I was in the legislature of kentuckt your 320 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:26.159 Rights to Life. It's always had a gathering at the 321 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:30.480 capitol every year. But that's grown, and so we had 322 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:34.039 a huge march last year, it's growing this year. And 323 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:38.360 so again it's because we you know, we're we want 324 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:43.120 to inspire others, especially this next generation, which really, uh, 325 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:48.080 they're unbelievable, are the youth to embrace life, to embrace 326 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:52.879 the dignity of every life. And so as we watch 327 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.240 pro lifers come to the Capitol in Washington, now they're 328 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:57.919 coming to their own state capitals. 329 00:14:58.480 --> 00:14:59.519 If you think about it. 330 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:04.200 This is is the largest human rights demonstration that we 331 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:09.360 can have when we gather together to celebrate the value 332 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:13.200 and dignity and sanctity of every life. And that is 333 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:16.200 the lesson that has to be lost loss. It's something 334 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:18.720 that's been lost in our culture. But we have to 335 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:20.279 work at changing hearts. 336 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.519 Yeah, and the March for Life. Let's get down to 337 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:29.639 the barebone specifics of when these events occur. There is 338 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:34.240 a march for life here in northern Kentucky, Is there not, Well. 339 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:38.200 It's going to be in Frankfort. Yes, it is Frankfort 340 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:40.480 at the Capitol. And as I took a bus, because 341 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:44.399 in that building is the seat of government. It is 342 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:47.440 all three branches of government. It is the governor, the 343 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:51.919 administrative branch, it is the lawmakers, and it is the 344 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.840 judicial branch, all in one building. And we will stand 345 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.799 before that building gathered together, bearing witness to the value 346 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:02.080 and dignity of it every night. And so we're having 347 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:06.240 our march on February twelfth, Wednesday, February the twelfth, and 348 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:08.240 it's you know, it's a day that we that we 349 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:12.320 will walk and march with hope, inspiring change and really 350 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:13.399 to change. 351 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:14.240 Hearts and save lives. 352 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:18.000 So it's a week from this Wednesday, just like nine 353 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:22.240 days away. What time? What time are people gathering there? 354 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:25.039 Well, there are a couple things. 355 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:28.440 There's opportunities if people want to go to church that morning, 356 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:31.159 there will be a massive Good Shepherd at nine thirty. 357 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:34.960 I know there's bus loads coming from northern Kentucky, Louisville, Owensboro, 358 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:38.120 all over the state. A lot of young people will 359 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:40.600 be at that mass that's nine thirty at Good Shepherd, 360 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:44.080 and then they'll break, have some lunch and do some things, 361 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:47.519 and then we'll gather begin together with a pre concert 362 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:54.120 at the Capitol around eleven thirty and start gathering there, 363 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:59.000 and then we will kick off at noon the rally 364 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:00.279 and then and. 365 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:02.639 We'll well, actually, what we'll do is we'll. 366 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:05.599 Rally on this stuff with some great speakers, a lot 367 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:09.759 of witnesses that have a story just that that gives 368 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:14.519 value to life different circumstances, from adoption to being conceived 369 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:16.960 and an act of violence, but their life had value 370 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:21.480 to a mama bear hearing a diagnosis and standing for 371 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:24.039 the life or her child, all bearing witness. And at 372 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:26.640 that point we will then depart from the Capitol and 373 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:30.960 head down Capitol Avenue. There's this kind of a two 374 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:34.119 part march, so there will be the march, and then 375 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:37.160 after we get to about second Street, school buses will 376 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:38.160 pick up the students. 377 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:40.000 The people will make the turn and. 378 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:44.839 We will gather again at the gates of the Frankfort Cemetery. 379 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:49.519 They'll be parking there. Then the Frankfort, Kentucky Cemetery, wherein 380 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:52.480 that cemetery is the Kentucky Memorial. 381 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:53.039 For the Unborn. 382 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:57.960 So we'll gather there and at around one point five 383 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:01.160 and we'll walk prayerfectly to the memorial, or there'll be 384 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:05.160 a short prayer service in memory of all children who 385 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:09.599 have lost their lives, whether through miscarriage are through abortion. 386 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:13.279 You know, it's amazing you mentioned and I started at 387 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:15.839 the beginning of this idea by saying, you know, it 388 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:20.000 doesn't matter what religious persuasion you are, or if you 389 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:23.400 have religion or spirituality in your life, or whether you 390 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:26.480 just go on a scientific I'm kind of both. I mean, 391 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:29.279 I believe God created that life that's in the womb, 392 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:32.799 and it is sacred for that reason, we are all 393 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:36.680 made in the image of God. But also scientifically, if 394 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:41.279 there's a heartbeat, if you can see fingers, if the 395 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:46.039 ultrasounds don't lie, that is a living human being. It's 396 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:49.640 not a collection of cells. So but the point I 397 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:52.240 was going to make is, I just saw a survey 398 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:56.839 that's out. It says gen Z and you're talking about 399 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.480 how important the next generation is, or younger peeople are 400 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:06.559 in this equation of rooting this awful atrocity out of 401 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:13.839 our society. Sixty two percent of those gen zers actually 402 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:18.440 are They say they are spiritual. They know there's a 403 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:22.119 higher power, and that was the highest among baby boomers 404 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.400 Gen X. So there is hope for our future. 405 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:30.039 And they're an abundant blessing in that generation. And when 406 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:34.079 I talk to them that they're inspiring to be with. 407 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:36.079 You know, we do a scholarship for young people. 408 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:39.720 There will be busses of young folks and the next 409 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:44.279 generation and young families coming, and they are inspiring because 410 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:46.920 they're the hope in the future of this nation. Of 411 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:51.880 this are towns and cities and commonwealth. And when you've got, 412 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:56.000 as you said, that percentage that are spiritual, and if 413 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:59.400 we listen to them, that's where we grow from it. 414 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:02.319 And so what you said to is our faith in God. 415 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:06.160 If God is truth, created an image and likeness of God. 416 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:07.720 So a lot of times we have a lot of 417 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:11.759 you know, my background is I'm a nurse in biology 418 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:14.200 and I'm a bioethosist, and a lot of times we 419 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:16.680 ask a lot of complicated questions about peop believe this. 420 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:20.440 What about this procedure? Because it's pretty simple. Do you 421 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:22.480 believe you're creating the image and likeness of God? 422 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:26.240 Yeah? Adia Wishner. Thank you so much for your time tonight. 423 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:31.559 We're out unfortunately. Okay, Next Wednesday, February twelfth, at the 424 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:37.240 state capital of Kentucky, Frankfort, Kentucky, the Kentucky March for Life. 425 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:40.400 It's wonderful if you'd like to know more. Is there 426 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:42.279 a place where people can go real quickly? 427 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:47.680 Yes, they can go to ky marchflife dot org all 428 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:50.319 spelled out or call our office five two eight nine. 429 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:52.039 Nine. 430 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:55.759 All right, thank you so much, Adia, and God bless you. 431 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:59.160 All right, it's the nightcap and there is a whole 432 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:17.519 lot more left to go. Seven hundred WLW one two 433 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:24.039 three four. Yeah, it's rock and roll. And as a 434 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:26.799 matter of fact, rock and roll can be used for 435 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:31.759 really good purposes, believe it or not. And this is 436 00:21:31.799 --> 00:21:36.599 another occasion where that is the truth. Autism Rocks sixteen 437 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:40.240 is coming up at fret Board Brewery and to talk 438 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:44.960 about that. David Kale and Robert Jackson welcome, gentlemen. How 439 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:45.440 are you doing. 440 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:51.880 Hey, I'm great, I bless I'm above ground. 441 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:55.160 Yes, I agree, me too, better than I deserve. That's 442 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:59.519 how I'm I'm doing. So let's talk a little bit 443 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:03.920 about this year's Autism Rocks lineup and the date and 444 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:07.200 where it is, and you guys were with us. This 445 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:09.839 is your second bite at the night Cap Apple talking 446 00:22:09.880 --> 00:22:14.759 about this. So let's continue the conversation in a new year. 447 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:18.839 First off, for you, David Kale, how long you've been 448 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:20.279 involved with Autism Rocks. 449 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:26.240 Well, we started Autism Rocks back in twenty ten, was 450 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:26.960 the first one. 451 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:28.359 This will be our sixteenth. 452 00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:31.640 It was after we had had a benefit from my 453 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:35.599 son Parker, who was diagnosed with autism back in two 454 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:38.920 thousand and eight, and the event was so successful we 455 00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:41.440 decided to continue to do it to try to help 456 00:22:42.039 --> 00:22:44.200 other causes here in the Tri State area. 457 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:50.119 Sure, and how is your son doing? If I can ask, Well. 458 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:52.039 He's going to be twenty years old in just a 459 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:54.160 few weeks. He's doing well. 460 00:22:55.680 --> 00:23:00.440 He still has some challenges due to his diagnosis. 461 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:02.640 But he's a happy person, loved life. 462 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:05.240 That's good. That's all any of us can hope for 463 00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:08.599 for ourselves or for our kids. Now, Robert Jackson, tell 464 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:11.599 me about your involvement with Autism Rocks. 465 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:15.200 Well, I got a phone call from a friend, Howie Kneel, 466 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:17.039 and he said he had a friend that I had 467 00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:20.359 a son with Autism, which is Dave Kale, would I, 468 00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:24.440 you know, like, you know, join in? And I said, well, 469 00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:27.119 I'll see what I can do. And there's been a 470 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:30.200 relationship ever since then, and that was what sixteen years ago. 471 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:34.480 Yes, sir, that's fantastic. Tell me about the venue for 472 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:40.000 this year's event. Now, this is coming up Sunday, February sixteenth, 473 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:44.680 so the Sunday after the Super Bowl, starting about noon 474 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:49.359 or so. Tell me about where you're doing this, guys. 475 00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:52.720 It's at Fretboard Brewing. 476 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:55.880 It's at the Blue Ash location at fifty eight. 477 00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:57.079 Hundred Creek Road. 478 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:01.680 All right, fantastic, our second year doing there. And I 479 00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:05.920 see you've got a star stellar lineup here for Autism. 480 00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:15.920 Rocks formerly Cincinnati Red's Pitcher now incredible rock star Bronson 481 00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:18.680 Arroyo will be there starting at noon. He's lading things 482 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:22.240 off right, that is correct. 483 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:25.680 And then we reached over because the Boots of Collins 484 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:28.000 Foundation has been doing so much for us in the 485 00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:30.960 past few years, I reached over to them and said, hey, 486 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:32.759 would you like to take one of the artists from 487 00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:36.319 your stable and have them play for us this year 488 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:38.680 at Autis and Rocks. So they chose a young man 489 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:40.960 by the name of Manny Pemberton. 490 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:43.039 He's going to follow Bronson, all. 491 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:48.680 Right, fantastic. Also on the lineup stays in Vegas. What 492 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:49.480 are they all about? 493 00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:54.240 My family connection there. 494 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:57.279 My cousin is married to Ryan Clark, who is the 495 00:24:57.319 --> 00:24:59.559 drummer for them, and I went to him and said, hey, 496 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:01.559 would you you think that your band would like to play. 497 00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:04.920 They're known here in Cincinnati as a corporate band, and 498 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:08.359 they're very, very well established, and I think everybody's really 499 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:09.039 gonna like him. 500 00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:12.920 Robert Any comments, No, I. 501 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:13.640 Go and listen. 502 00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:16.640 I mean, you know, I get to meet new musicians. 503 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:18.400 And I've seen some people that I've heard, you know 504 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:19.640 back in the. 505 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:23.319 Bengal days, like Oh, Dave, what's the fourth guy? 506 00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:23.920 Sif Guy? 507 00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:26.160 Oh Dangerous Jim. 508 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:29.559 Dangerous Jim and the Slims have been around this town forever. 509 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:31.759 Everybody knows Dangerous Jim. 510 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:34.880 Yep heard him when he was young and I was 511 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:35.640 young and had hair. 512 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:42.480 And then the finale Jet Pack Academy at four PM. 513 00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:49.079 That's correct, that's Shaggy from another station that you know. 514 00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:51.519 He's part of that band, and that's how we reached 515 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:53.759 the connection was getting to know him. 516 00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:56.039 And he plays drums. I believe in that band. 517 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:00.000 Yeah, I know Jeff Nagel. He's a great guy. He's full, wonderful. 518 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:02.559 Well go yeah, all right, So if people want to 519 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:05.759 get tickets real quickly, let's go through that. We how 520 00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:10.319 do we get tickets for Autism Rocks. 521 00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:13.039 Well, until this coming Saturday. There is a link on 522 00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:15.920 Sincy tickets and it's on our website and it's on 523 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:20.000 our social media pages. And you will save five dollars 524 00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:22.279 off the door if you get your tickets in advance, 525 00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:25.519 but that sight only goes through the weekend. Once we 526 00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:28.200 hit the weekend, then everything else will be done at 527 00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:30.799 the door. It'll be fifteen dollars in advance, twenty dollars 528 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:31.640 a day after the work. 529 00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:38.000 All right, fantastic Autism Rocks sixteen Sunday, February sixteenth, a 530 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:41.640 week from this coming Sunday, the week after the Super Bowl. 531 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.160 Fret Board Brewing Company and Blue Ash gentlemen, thank you 532 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:47.400 so much and I wish you great success with the event. 533 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:51.720 Hey, Jay, Gary, can I throw one more comment out there? 534 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:55.839 Want to thanks some people Jacqueline and Fernando Cruz who 535 00:26:55.880 --> 00:27:01.000 are our sponsors for the event. Mercy Health Disable American veterans, 536 00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:05.039 see am Mockby Ready Eagles, DMG Companies, coll Orring Veterans, 537 00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:08.400 Voodo Kings and State Representative Gene Schmidt. They're all our 538 00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:10.759 sponsors to make this possible for us, and we thank 539 00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:11.519 them so much. 540 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.519 Well, thank you so much, gentlemen, rock On, Thank you. 541 00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:18.400 It's the nightcap and we're not done yet. 542 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:19.799 U l W. 543 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:25.599 As we turn the page here, not like Tim Tim 544 00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:28.480 Waalzer his wife turning the page, but as we turn 545 00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:31.960 the page in the program, the author of Unprecedented Assault, 546 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:36.279 How Big Government Unleashed America's Socialists left a former congressional 547 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:40.559 political analyst and policy advisor. He'd spent over three decades 548 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:44.359 in and around DC politics. Poor guy, and now he's 549 00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:46.640 got to deal with me for a few minutes tonight. 550 00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:47.079 J T. 551 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:50.359 Young joins us. JT. Welcome back to the show. 552 00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:53.559 Thank you so much for having me Gary. 553 00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:55.000 So much going on today. 554 00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:58.920 Oh I know, you know it didn't take long for 555 00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:02.640 Claudia Shine in Mexico to say, yeah, you know those 556 00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:05.920 twenty five percent tariffs, we don't really need to do that, 557 00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:10.880 Dewey Donald, and yeah you want the ten thousand troops 558 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.160 back at the border on our side to kind of 559 00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:16.079 stem the flow of immigration, kind of like the first 560 00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.319 time you were in office. Okay, I think we can 561 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.000 do that. You want to stop the flow of fentanyl 562 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:25.000 into your country from ours, we can talk about that. 563 00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:29.680 Let's put a pause on those tariffs. And that's exactly 564 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:31.960 what happened, right And. 565 00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:37.000 You know, I would bet in her case that she 566 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.000 may well never say it publicly, but actually have welcomed 567 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.599 the threat so that it allowed her to do what 568 00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:47.200 Mexico should have been doing in the first play. And 569 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.880 I'm sure they would like to have control of their border. 570 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:55.680 I mean, you know, everything we get here is certainly 571 00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:59.000 horrible of what we're getting, certainly with the fentanyl and 572 00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:03.279 illegal immigrant. But she's got her own problems with this too, 573 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.480 and I think being able to go my hands the time, 574 00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:08.960 I mean, you see what I'm dealing with. 575 00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:09.880 He's gonna do it. 576 00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:13.640 He gave he gave her political cover in her country 577 00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:17.720 among her supporters. It'll be interesting to see how Canada falls. 578 00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:23.319 I you know, Trudeau is leaving, he's already said he's 579 00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:26.680 stepping down. It'll depend on who the next Prime minister 580 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.440 is to see how that shakes out. But wonder of 581 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:36.039 wonders with Columbia. That didn't take long, did it. People 582 00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:39.440 forget that Donald Trump wrote the book The Art of 583 00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.559 the Deal. That's that's what this has all been about 584 00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.960 the entire time, right, Yeah. 585 00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.880 I know, you're absolutely right, And you know, Justin Trudeau 586 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.400 is the Joe Biden of the North. He's basically got 587 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:56.279 pushed out by his own party. So uh you know, 588 00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:01.440 to you to your point, Yeah, America has the largest 589 00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:04.480 economy in the world, with the envy of the world, 590 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:09.000 uh and Trump is willing to use that uh too 591 00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:13.839 to advance his policy initiatives. And I would think, you know, 592 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:19.720 most Americans will will sit back and say, yeah, you know, 593 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:23.880 I would rather him be using this threat of paraps 594 00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:29.240 than sending US troops into Mexico or or you know, 595 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.880 a much more aggressive action. I think, you know, he's 596 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.039 using a tool that's there, and you know, as you've 597 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:42.160 already said, I think he's he's wielding it with some 598 00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:45.599 dexterity here, yeah, and he's getting and he's getting what 599 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.599 he wants in virtually instantaneously. 600 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.000 It's amazing just the warp speed at which he has 601 00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:56.160 been moving in his short time in office. JT Uh 602 00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:58.480 I wanted to ask you. I wanted to ask you 603 00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:03.680 to about his his appointees or his people he's nominated 604 00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:06.680 for cabinet positions that are still unsettled, the rf K Juniors, 605 00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:12.720 the Tulci Gabbards, the cash But tell I don't all 606 00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:16.440 of these people, whether you like them or agree with 607 00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:21.279 everything they say or stand for or not, are part 608 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:24.480 of this what Greg Guttfeld called it a band of 609 00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:29.920 pirates that Trump has assembled, And I think that they're 610 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.599 all They're all facing the fire that Donald Trump had faced, 611 00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:38.319 especially his first time in office, because he was there 612 00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.359 to disrupt and to upset the apple cart. And that's 613 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.480 what these three people are are aiming to do if 614 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.240 they get into these positions of power. Let's read the 615 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:50.559 political Tea Leaves just for a moment, since she spent 616 00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:54.079 so much time around DC and the politics of it. 617 00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:55.359 J T. 618 00:31:55.519 --> 00:32:01.119 Young, RFK Jor Do you think ultimately he is confirmed? 619 00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:07.160 I do think he will be at some point. 620 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:11.279 It comes down to counting heads and how many people 621 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:16.680 will it be unanimous? No, I mean on the Republican side, 622 00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:19.480 and I'm sure none of these are going to get 623 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.559 Democrat support, But. 624 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.000 I think the. 625 00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:30.240 Prevailing feeling has always been for every president, which is 626 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:35.599 these appointments are staff that we glorify them, we give 627 00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:39.480 them titles, they have buildings that technically they run, but 628 00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:42.119 at the end of the day, they're the president's staff. 629 00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.319 And never have they been more of the staff to 630 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:48.079 a president than they will be to Donald Trump. And 631 00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.160 I think the feeling has always been on Capitol Hill 632 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:55.720 that the president is allowed to have his own crew 633 00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:58.640 in place. And I think it kind of comes down 634 00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.839 to that, and most Republics are going to go if 635 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:06.319 this is who he wants, that's that's that's his choice, 636 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:10.319 and he deserves to have his people in place to 637 00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:11.519 carry out his agenda. 638 00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:15.759 Your comments on Tulci Gabbard, another member potentially of Donald 639 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.200 Trump's staff, I mean, what, personally, how do you feel 640 00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:21.920 about Tulci Gabbard and some of her stands on it 641 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.759 passed on Edward Snowden and other issues. 642 00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:28.839 Well, I certainly don't agree on things that have been 643 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:30.960 attributed to her. You know, I have not been in 644 00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:34.160 private meetings. I haven't heard her say, well, this was 645 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:36.640 taken out of context. I didn't say that, and I 646 00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:41.960 can appreciate, you know, however she wants or however, she 647 00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:46.920 is explaining that, and certainly, as you mentioned on Eric Snowden, 648 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:53.519 I don't support I don't support him, but you know 649 00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.480 what she's saying and how she's answering it. Has she 650 00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:03.240 been able to alleviate people's concerns? And yeah, are people 651 00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:06.480 allowed to change their positions over time? 652 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:07.440 Yes? I think so. 653 00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:09.719 You know, you just have to convince us that you 654 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:16.119 have in fact done that and seem sincere and reasons 655 00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.280 in how you're doing it. So I think again that 656 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.519 most people are going to be willing to give her 657 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.239 the benefit of the doubt. She would be the one 658 00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:27.280 I'm the most concerned about of the three. 659 00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.119 Kay, all right, Cash Betel uh, you know, he picked 660 00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:33.840 him up and knocked him down at his uh at 661 00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:38.480 the questioning I've seen so far, and he A lot 662 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:41.599 of people are really worried about cash Betel becoming the 663 00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:45.679 head of the FBI because he has promised to get 664 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.159 to the bottom of all of the weaponization of that 665 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:52.199 organization and get it back to being a law enforcement 666 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:56.559 organization and not uh, you know, a political tip of 667 00:34:56.599 --> 00:35:00.880 the spear for you know, even though you know they 668 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:04.920 brought up his enemies list that he said he was 669 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:11.480 putting together. But again, you saw the enemy's list of 670 00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:15.880 the FBI under Joe Biden and under Obama, and now 671 00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:18.400 you're seeing it on the other side. So there are 672 00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.480 a lot of very very nervous people within that organization, 673 00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:21.960 are there not? 674 00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:24.440 Yeah? And I think they should think. 675 00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:28.079 I mean, I think since there are, and they should 676 00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:32.000 legitimately be for what has transpired. 677 00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:32.440 In that organization. 678 00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.599 I agree, and the American people have a right to know. 679 00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:41.599 There have been some extremely questionable things that had the 680 00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:45.880 FBI has been used to pursue. And I think Donald 681 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:48.000 Trump would be at the start of this list, and 682 00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:52.559 most Americans in the same place, which is the rank 683 00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:57.159 and file boots on the ground. FBI agents are people 684 00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:01.239 who put their lives on the line to protect America's interests. 685 00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:05.519 The question has been and I think will continue to 686 00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:09.800 be until legitimately I answered, who were the decision makers 687 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:14.000 and explain to us how some of these decisions were 688 00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:17.000 made That seemed to be just what you were saying, 689 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:22.000 an overt weaponization of the FBI for political purposes, and 690 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:27.280 that that is dangerous and that's dangerous for anyone using it. 691 00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:29.360 And I think those questions, but. 692 00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:32.000 Jat didn't we we already know that when we saw 693 00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:35.320 the text from Peter Strock and Susan Page, didn't we 694 00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:39.079 know that an insurance policy against him and all of 695 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:41.480 I mean, it's just so, it's. 696 00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:45.840 Been clear for years, doright, And I think we need 697 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:51.119 to have these thoroughly investigated, give us a give us 698 00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:55.800 a blue ribbon reading of what happened, why it happened, 699 00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:59.280 who was involved. I think again, you know, Joe Biden 700 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:01.519 can tipe it, pardon everyone he. 701 00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:02.400 Wants to pardon. 702 00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:07.039 That should not stop investigations. And Americans have the right 703 00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:11.079 to know. And the best way to ensure things like 704 00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:14.719 this don't happen again is to have found out how 705 00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.639 they happened, if they happen. 706 00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:17.719 In the first place. 707 00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:22.320 And I think again that you're voicing what a lot 708 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:26.320 of Americans feel, which is they don't have faith in 709 00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:30.119 their government. They don't have trust in the FBI. I mean, 710 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:33.440 you and I probably grew up watching all of those 711 00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:38.000 shows where you know, FBI agents were at the top 712 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:39.639 of the cream of the crop. 713 00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:43.960 In the FB. 714 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:49.679 And you know we need it to be there. It 715 00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:53.199 should be there, and the agents who do the hard, 716 00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:58.440 dangerous work of the FBI I'm convinced they are there. 717 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:02.599 They need to have their leaders ship exonerated and if 718 00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:09.000 necessarily replaced. Yeah, my people who are doing a non 719 00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:10.920 political law enforcement job. 720 00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:14.079 JT. Young, thank you so much for your time again, 721 00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:16.719 my friend, and I hopefully we will we will be 722 00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:18.079 able to do this again real soon. 723 00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:20.119 I look forward to it. 724 00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:21.719 Gary, enjoy it every time we. 725 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:22.679 Talk, all right? 726 00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:23.039 J T. 727 00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:28.199 Young on the Nightcap and we roll on now from Florida. 728 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.719 He's in Florida, of all places, and still finds time 729 00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:36.800 to talk to little old me Doomsday Dave patter our 730 00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:41.199 it guy, the tech guru, joins us with some more 731 00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:44.519 things that you should be absolutely frightened to death of tonight, 732 00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:47.880 including this. I saw this headline, Dave. And by the way, 733 00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:49.079 good evening. How are you. 734 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:52.360 I'm good, Garry caff Always a pleasure to be here, 735 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.760 even though I'm in Florida and apparently they're a pair 736 00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:56.400 in this building. I'm been down, as you can hear 737 00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:57.039 in the background. 738 00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.360 Well, that would be something to be definitely frighten full of, 739 00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:01.400 right there, Dave. 740 00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:04.000 Yeah, I'm a little worried this thing might collapse. 741 00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:04.880 I don't know what they're doing. 742 00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:09.920 Okay, Well, if anything happens to you while we're doing this, 743 00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:14.440 remember I have the exclusive I appreciate that. 744 00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:15.960 That's all you all you man. 745 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.960 Thanks, you have my guarantee on the scoop here. 746 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:24.800 AI will supercharge cyber weapons within two years. Experts worn 747 00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:29.360 first and foremost, What are super What are what are 748 00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:30.719 cyber weapons? 749 00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.119 Well, Gary, Jeff, anyone that's been following AI has been 750 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:37.400 worried about this for some time because you know, as 751 00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:39.719 it progresses, and I just want to rely on people. 752 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.679 There's a lot of hypes that hyperbole out there when 753 00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:43.679 you read anything about AI. You know, some of the 754 00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:46.480 bloom is already off the road there, and you've got 755 00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:48.880 different types of AI. Some of it's that chat Ett 756 00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:51.800 type stuff and others are purpose built. But the confer 757 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.079 here that they're raising, and it's been a concern for 758 00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:56.760 some time, is that as these tools get better and 759 00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:59.239 better and better, whether it's things like voice cloning, deep 760 00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:03.400 fake videos, or it's just the ability to run opposite 761 00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:06.559 scale because you know, human beings have to sleep eventually, right, 762 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:09.360 So if I can spin up a data center that's 763 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:11.119 got a bunch of AI agents in it that are 764 00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:14.239 running around the clock doing various in the various things, 765 00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.679 whether it's trying to scan your network and find the vulnerability, 766 00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:20.159 don't exploit, or it's trying to call your CFO and 767 00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:23.880 pretend to be your CEO because they captured the ce 768 00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:25.840 CEO's voice from a voicemail. 769 00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:26.760 You know. 770 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:30.320 It's it's as these tools get better and they create 771 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:33.639 more convincing content, whether it's text or video or audio, 772 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:36.440 and then you couple it at scale, because again, I 773 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:38.559 can run these things twenty four by seven by three 774 00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:40.480 sixty five. They don't take a break, they don't call 775 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.800 it sick. You know, as they improve both in their 776 00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:49.440 ability to create legitimate, appearing content and to run faster, 777 00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:54.880 you know, it does certainly create the specter of just 778 00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:58.880 NonStop attacks. Now Ideally, as a business, as an agency, 779 00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:01.880 as an entity of any type, you'd be using similar 780 00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:03.960 tools to try to defend against these things. And that's 781 00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:06.840 where you get into this this weird space of AI 782 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.599 against AI. And you know where does that all go? 783 00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:11.440 I don't know. I'm not really going to sleep over 784 00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:13.159 at this point. I'll tell it again. I think a 785 00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.840 lot of this stuff is super overhyped, but I do 786 00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.039 think it's a risk. And as if technology progresses. You know, 787 00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:20.719 you're only going to see more and more of these 788 00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:23.559 sorts of attacks, especially the social engineering stuff with deep 789 00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:26.119 sake voice cloning and deep sake idiots. I mean that's 790 00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:26.960 already on your eyes. 791 00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:29.559 Well, you mentioned at the top here, Dave, that humans 792 00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.639 have to sleep. I guess that means our president is 793 00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:35.920 Ai because he never seves to stop. 794 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:38.519 I'm with you on that. 795 00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:42.239 He doesn't seem to stop stop to sleep. It's pretty incredible. 796 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:43.679 But the pace of things they're. 797 00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:44.880 Doing, yeah, no doubt. 798 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:45.400 Uh. 799 00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:50.400 Chinese hackers use broad telco access to geolocate millions of 800 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:54.480 Americans and record phone calls. They may be recording this 801 00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.039 phone call right now, Dave, for all we know. 802 00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:00.960 Yeah, I'm surprised they haven't cut a softiet Carriac deats 803 00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:02.880 since we seem to get on the topic of the 804 00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:06.159 PRC and the CCP on a regular basis. And you know, 805 00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.760 I think this story is really disturbing. And you know, 806 00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:11.239 no matter your view of the current administration or the 807 00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:15.440 previous administration, you've had government officials warning about the Chinese 808 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:18.639 Communist Party and their infiltration into our infrastructure for a 809 00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:21.519 long time. You know, they're stealing trade secrets, they're stealing 810 00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:24.719 military secrets, They're stealing anything and everything they can get 811 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:26.679 their hands on, because you know, why would you want 812 00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:29.079 to make giant investments in research and development that you 813 00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.360 can just steal the information you need from an American 814 00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:34.280 company sure, or steal the military secrets. You know, notice 815 00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.320 all of their new aircraft looks incredibly similar to ours. 816 00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:40.199 I don't think that's a coincidence. So when you see 817 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:43.239 these things like this infiltration in the infrastructure, and I 818 00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:46.639 would point out, you know, if you can completely compromise 819 00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:49.280 the telecom network, which is what you know has been 820 00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:51.599 said for some time now, at least nine of the 821 00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:56.280 major telecom companies AT and TP Mobile, etcetera, had been compromised. 822 00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:58.559 And as far as I can tell, I haven't seen 823 00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.480 anyone saying that they're you know, they're confident that they 824 00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:06.599 have completely eliminated this infiltration. Okay, unless you're using encryption, 825 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.239 which ironically the FBI has now come out and said 826 00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:11.800 is a good thing, despite fighting it for years, if 827 00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:14.920 not decades, it's a good thing because of this infiltration. 828 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.239 I mean, anything you're sending through there that's not into 829 00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:21.199 D encrypted could potentially be captured and compromised. So, yeah, 830 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.960 your location because your phone is constantly tracking you, right, 831 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:25.960 it has to in order for it to do its job. 832 00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:29.000 You've got apps on there that are collecting data, including 833 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.960 your location in many cases. So yeah, I mean, we're 834 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.880 basically giving our number one adversary in the world all 835 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:37.239 kinds of sensitive data about us, where we go, what 836 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.679 we do, who we talk to, what we say. And 837 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:41.679 you know, even if you're not concerned about that as 838 00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:44.599 an individual, think about what that means for the government. 839 00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:47.880 Think about what that means for military contractors or anyone 840 00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:50.119 dealing with any kind of sense and information. I know, well, 841 00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:52.159 we're amount of time, But did you have to seek Gary, Jeff, 842 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:54.840 I don't think I sent you this article. It's recently 843 00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:57.039 been exposed and I think it's contact, but I might 844 00:43:57.079 --> 00:43:59.559 be wrong. I'm not in front of a computer. They 845 00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:03.119 make devices, and then now they've found backdoors in the 846 00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:06.199 medical devices that are potentially leaking your data to China, 847 00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:08.840 because of course these things were made in China. So 848 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:11.360 you know, what could someone do with that? Well, would 849 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:12.760 it be good to know that you might have a 850 00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:13.480 heart arrhythmia? 851 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:14.400 Maybe? 852 00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:17.199 Again, I'm not I'm not a scientist. I'm not a doctor, 853 00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:19.800 but it just goes to show you that we've got 854 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.039 to stop. Whether it's TikTok red note tamu fill in 855 00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:25.360 the blank, if it came from China, you should be 856 00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:28.239 suspect of it because they are not our friends. And 857 00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.079 we just see time and time again, whether it's you know, 858 00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:35.840 for infiltration and critical infrastructure like water plants, telecom, medical 859 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:38.400 devices or whatever, it's a real problem. And I mean 860 00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:40.559 I lose a lot more sleep about this than AI 861 00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:43.679 super weapons at this point because it's happening, and we 862 00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.480 know it's happening here right right now. 863 00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.719 You mentioned about the planes, the Chinese planes that look 864 00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:54.960 exactly like ours, and this is basically stolen technology through 865 00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:59.000 these different routes they have to hack and to uh, 866 00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:03.039 you know, look in and listen in on everything we're doing. 867 00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:06.880 Is that where is that where the deep seek Ai 868 00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:10.159 came from? From China? They took our technology and they 869 00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:11.880 just did it cheaper. Is that the deal? 870 00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:15.719 Well, you know, even that is now starting to come 871 00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:18.000 under fire in terms of the original reporting on that. 872 00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:19.960 I don't know that you can ever believe anything they're 873 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:24.079 telling you from China, but essentially, yes, assuming that any 874 00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:26.039 part of that story is true. So when that hit 875 00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:28.079 the news, you know, a cat took all the oxygen 876 00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:31.599 out of everything related to AI. Because the initial reporting 877 00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:35.320 was they built something that is roughly of equal capability 878 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.519 to the best stuff from America like chat GPT, for 879 00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:40.960 a lot less money. It takes a lot less electricity, 880 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:43.239 it takes a lot less powerful and expensive hardware to 881 00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:46.159 run it. Now again there's more information is coming out. 882 00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:48.079 It appears that much of that may not be true. 883 00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:50.840 And while it may be roughly equivalent in the capability, 884 00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.880 the uh the financial aspects of it, and they did 885 00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:55.840 it with a lot less power. 886 00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:56.440 Now it does. 887 00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:59.000 Appear they did They kind of took the the same 888 00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:01.519 idea we've been used and perhaps extracted a lot of 889 00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:04.719 the same data, and then just took an innovative approach 890 00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:06.320 to make this work the way that it does. So 891 00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.840 I'm not knocking that it is somewhat alarming that they've 892 00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:14.079 moved this far this fast, but I'm not sure Again, 893 00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.320 as more and more information comes out that it's really 894 00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:18.199 all that they cracked it up to be, and that 895 00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:21.559 you know, there's either some misunderstanding or some perhaps not 896 00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:24.639 truthful reporting on it. So I think it bears watching. 897 00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:26.840 And it's certainly not good that they might be that 898 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.119 close to us in terms of capabilities when you think 899 00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:31.880 about it from like the weapon perspective. But I'm not 900 00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:32.840 sure it's all true. 901 00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:35.800 All right, well, I mean, build a better mouse trap. 902 00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:40.280 That's always the mantra, and we'll find out who can 903 00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:44.880 build the better mouse trap. I guess over time. Gmail 904 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:50.119 now has confirmed a hack for a large number of 905 00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:53.880 people who if you use Gmail, it has been confirmed 906 00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:56.159 that there was an AI hack. And if you can 907 00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:59.159 just spend like a minute talking about that, that'd be great. 908 00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:02.199 Yeah, I know, we don't have much time. Saw this 909 00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:04.440 hit the highlights. You know, anytime you're using one of 910 00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:06.840 these free mail platforms, first off, you should turn on 911 00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.960 all of the security capabilities they offer. That's going to vary, 912 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:12.679 and then you just have to be increasingly skeptical, Gary 913 00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.400 Jeff because of where we started. Right as AI gets better, 914 00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:18.079 it's really easy to clone someone's voice. I cannot stress 915 00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:19.519 enough how easy it. 916 00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:19.920 Is to do this. 917 00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:23.519 It doesn't take any kind of skill or technical process whatsoever. 918 00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:25.239 There are free tools that will allow you to close 919 00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:28.320 someone's voice. All you need is a sample. So if 920 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.599 I call your phone and you have a voicemail greeting 921 00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:33.119 I'm you in less than fifteen minutes, I promise you 922 00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:35.000 I can clone your voice. I've done it many times 923 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.440 to show people this is real. And you know, now 924 00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:41.119 we're moving into a realm of video, possible real time audio. 925 00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:44.199 So you know, a lot of that femail scam you're 926 00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:48.000 talking about there involve people using legitimate email or Google 927 00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:50.800 services to cover their tracks and make it seem legitimate 928 00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:53.920 and get around some of the security capabilities. So, folks, 929 00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:56.119 you just got to be super skeptical. You've got to 930 00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:59.199 understand that virtually anything you get in digital form, especially 931 00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.760 if it's dancing, to do anything even remotely unusual or 932 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:03.840 send money or anything, you should just stop dead in 933 00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:06.320 your tracks and verify out of band. You know, go 934 00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.079 to the source from a phone number you can verify 935 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:11.840 or an email address you can verify. Is these scams 936 00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:13.960 are going to get worse before they get better, and really, 937 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.760 awareness of skepticism of by far your best defenses at 938 00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:17.159 this point. 939 00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:21.440 Well, enjoy the rest of your construction vacation in Florida, 940 00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:22.079 dare Hatter. 941 00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:24.119 Yeah, and I appreciate that. 942 00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:27.119 Gary, Jeff, we'll talk to you real soon. Dave Hatter 943 00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:30.440 with us from Intrust on the latest things for you 944 00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:34.039 to be deeply concerned about on the Nightcaf. We continue 945 00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.760 in moments on seven hundred WLW. Mother on the Night Calf. 946 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:41.519 Her name is Elena Barbara, a leading advocate for parental 947 00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:46.559 rights and anti grooming, a Christian mom, author and documentary filmmaker. 948 00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:50.960 And it's been a wonderful new world with Donald Trump 949 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:54.519 so far. Elena, what do you think about some of 950 00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:58.599 these executive orders? Especially there are only two genders that 951 00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:03.719 the government will recognize, male and female. Apparently science finally 952 00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:08.519 caught up with the federal government. But any comments in 953 00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:12.880 all of this. Donald Trump has stopped federal support funding 954 00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:18.480 for gender affirming care for children, i e. Mutilation and 955 00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:22.679 adhering to some kind of mental illness. But your thoughts 956 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:26.440 on any of this would be welcome. How are you good? 957 00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:27.559 Thanks for having me Gary. 958 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:29.000 I am overjoyed. 959 00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.639 This one, I'm going to admit actually brought me to 960 00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:34.239 tears because I've been paying such close attention to this 961 00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:39.039 and seeing how this gender ideology is destroying children's lives 962 00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:43.760 now and their futures. So to have a president who 963 00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:47.840 is standing up as the most powerful person on earth 964 00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:53.000 to protect children is absolutely mind blowing after what we've 965 00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:56.000 seen the last few years, where we had the person 966 00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:59.599 in that position doing their best to harm children on 967 00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:04.519 part us. It's absolutely fantastic, not only for the children 968 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:06.840 of today, but for their futures and the future of 969 00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:11.719 the country because what we're doing is we're like messing 970 00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:16.000 with their minds, messing with their bodies. The aftermath of 971 00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:18.840 this is going to already be enormous from all the 972 00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:21.400 children we've damaged in five, ten, twenty years. I mean, 973 00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.320 the mental health crisis we're going to have is going 974 00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:26.000 to make today's mental health crisis look like nothing. 975 00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:29.480 So it's ending. At least the damage is ending now. 976 00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:30.119 It's amazing. 977 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:33.559 You talk about the surgical mutilation. That's one thing, but 978 00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:37.599 another thing is the introduction of all, you know, all 979 00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:43.159 these hormones to stop what naturally happens to any young 980 00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:47.760 body at that age. I remember being a teenager, I 981 00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:51.599 remember being not quite sure of a lot of things. 982 00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:54.880 You know, at ten, eleven, twelve years old, it all 983 00:50:54.920 --> 00:51:00.360 became much clearer when the testosterone kicked in. I could, 984 00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.320 you know, realize what I was intended to be as 985 00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:08.679 a human being, and there's been this denial of that 986 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:12.840 by some people. I don't know if some of these 987 00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:16.760 parents who insist that their child must go through this, 988 00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:20.519 if they really love their children, you know, I would 989 00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:24.159 hope that they love their children. But they've been they've 990 00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:29.800 bought into this fad of transgender fluidity that the nation's 991 00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:31.880 been under the spell of for the last four or 992 00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:35.760 five years. And it really kicked in oddly enough or 993 00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:41.360 not not so oddly enough during the Biden administration. Right, 994 00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:44.760 what's going through parents' heads and they say, you know, 995 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:48.000 I really think my little boy is a girl actually 996 00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:50.400 because of the way he acts. I mean, do they 997 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:53.239 not remember the way they were when they were young? 998 00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:56.480 So that's exact. 999 00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:57.639 I mean, that's a great point. 1000 00:51:57.719 --> 00:51:59.760 I mean, any normal parent would just look at their 1001 00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:01.880 child and say, yeah, puberty is weird. 1002 00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:03.119 We all went through it. 1003 00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:06.199 Every adult on the planet went through it. Felt the 1004 00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.960 same way, as you trust me, we're going to get 1005 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:09.679 through this and you're going. 1006 00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:10.039 To be okay. 1007 00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:10.400 That's it. 1008 00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:12.239 That's all that really needs to be said. 1009 00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:12.800 I mean. 1010 00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:17.960 So instead, though, what they did was they created and 1011 00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:21.920 it's referenced as junk science in the Executive Order they 1012 00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:26.639 created and published junk science. And because sadly, the American 1013 00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.920 education system has failed us, so many people read this 1014 00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:33.480 junk science and believe it or they don't even bother 1015 00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:37.280 to dig into it whatsoever. So an organization called the 1016 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:42.280 World Professional Association for Transgender Health put out all this 1017 00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:48.719 information again junk science about transgenderism, and it is all 1018 00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:53.239 brand new. It is all completely unfounded in reality, some 1019 00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:56.119 of it is lies. And they held back information that 1020 00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:59.800 they knew, and they told parents, this is really real 1021 00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:03.320 what your child is going through, and we can help them. 1022 00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:05.679 And if you you know, if you don't help your 1023 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:08.880 child to transition, that your kid's going to kill themselves. 1024 00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:13.840 I mean, it's just this crazy extortion to get you 1025 00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.559 to believe that your child is born in the wrong body. 1026 00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:19.800 I don't know how anybody brought in but they did, 1027 00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:23.679 and I think because they said, you know, it's quote 1028 00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:30.079 unquote science. And some people anything conservatives are against, they'll. 1029 00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:32.800 Before it doesn't matter how vile it is. They just 1030 00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:34.360 want to be against us. 1031 00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:36.599 I was talking with my wife the other the other 1032 00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:41.159 day about this, when seeing how this paradigm has shifted 1033 00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:45.239 now back to common sense and to what God intended 1034 00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:48.880 thanks to President Trump and executive orders and this push, 1035 00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:53.039 and you know, people voted, among other things, for this 1036 00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:59.199 to happen in our country right now. And I said, 1037 00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:01.360 I looked at her. This was about two years ago. 1038 00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:04.320 I said, it's a fad, and it's a dangerous fad. 1039 00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.760 I said, it's a more dangerous fad than the viral 1040 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:12.239 tide pods, for sure. It's it's just a fad or 1041 00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:16.440 a fetish. And you cover this in the documentary American Groom, 1042 00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:20.480 or tell folks about that documentary a little bit at Elena. 1043 00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:23.440 So it's a documentary that I made that is about 1044 00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:26.199 the sexualization of our children. 1045 00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:27.360 In American schools. 1046 00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:31.760 And right from pre K, we're telling children that you know, 1047 00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.599 that they that they should be thinking about how they 1048 00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:37.280 feel about their genitals, that they may be, you know, 1049 00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:39.519 in the wrong body, that their parents may have gotten 1050 00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:42.800 their gender wrong and confusing their minds. And then as 1051 00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:46.920 they get older, we're introducing more and more sexual content, 1052 00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:49.280 to the point of in middle schools and even in 1053 00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:53.400 some elementary schools you can find the most erotic triple 1054 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:58.360 ax content that you have ever imagined in our public schools. 1055 00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:02.079 And so we're sextualizing our kids in our media, in 1056 00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:06.039 our music, on the internet, and now it's happening in schools. 1057 00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:09.559 And you know, when people find out about it, they 1058 00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:13.679 tend to deny it. But I lay it out in 1059 00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:17.360 the film and explained how this happens and how damaging 1060 00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:20.480 it is. And after they see the film then they say, okay, 1061 00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.199 tell me Moore and what can I do? So they 1062 00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:27.000 can watch the film for free at American grumorfilm dot com. 1063 00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:31.079 You say, in thirty nine states it's perfectly legal to 1064 00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:40.280 show your kids unbelievably hardcore porn in school. Where is 1065 00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:43.239 that happening, Well. 1066 00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:44.760 It's in three quarters of states right now. 1067 00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:49.079 And the reason for that is these laws went into 1068 00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:52.440 place in the fifties, sixties, and seventies. They're called obscenity 1069 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.559 exemption statutes. So if you show porn to a child 1070 00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:57.800 at the mall or a coffee shop, you could leave 1071 00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:00.280 in handcuffs and be charged with a crime. But if 1072 00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:04.159 you show that same child that same porn within the 1073 00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.280 confines of a school or a library, you will be 1074 00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:10.599 exempted from criminal prosecution because you can say it was 1075 00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.840 educational and it doesn't matter how vulgar the porn. 1076 00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:15.519 It doesn't matter how young the child. 1077 00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:20.760 Wow, I had no idea that that was. But again, 1078 00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:24.719 it's these statutes going back to the what do you 1079 00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:27.840 think that's what those statutes originally were intended to do? 1080 00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:29.880 Well? 1081 00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:32.199 Find it hard to believe in the fifties and sixties 1082 00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:34.400 or was that where the indoctrination began. 1083 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:40.280 Well, the people that funded the model legal code for 1084 00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:43.920 the statutes with the Rockefeller Foundation. The Rockefeller Foundation also 1085 00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:48.920 funded al for Kinsey, who did this wonky sexual studies 1086 00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:52.159 where he determined that children are sexual from birth and 1087 00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:54.880 there's nothing wrong with sexualizing a child no matter how 1088 00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:59.000 I mean, up from infancy. So yes, I do believe 1089 00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:00.320 that was their ultimate goal. 1090 00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:02.800 The way they sold it was to say, hey, we 1091 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:04.960 need to tell kids a little bit more about sex 1092 00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:07.119 ed and we just don't want teachers getting in trouble. 1093 00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:10.719 So it was devious, but I do believe that ultimately 1094 00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:15.199 the goal was to normalize sex with children, because that's 1095 00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:17.679 where the philosophy started with the Kinsey studies. 1096 00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:20.639 Well, I think some of the part of that too, 1097 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:26.199 was that maybe parents weren't comfortable talking to their kids 1098 00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:30.239 about sex and those things as they grew older and 1099 00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:33.679 they just figured that they were going to take the 1100 00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:37.440 parents place. You know, like Joe Biden says, for eight 1101 00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:41.400 hours a day, those kids are ours, They're not yours, wrong, 1102 00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:46.920 Joe American Groomerfilm dot com is where you can see it, 1103 00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:53.480 and I recommend it. Good stuff, in depth research and 1104 00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:58.079 the truth telling in there. Elena Barbera, the base mother, 1105 00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:00.880 thank you so much for the few minutes tonight. Keep 1106 00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.000 up the good fight and we will talk again. 1107 00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:07.360 Soon, I hope, thank you anytime. 1108 00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:10.280 All right, you bet it's the nightcap and we're not 1109 00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:17.880 finished yet. Seven hundred WI my heart, it's song. 1110 00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:21.280 Let me sing for them. 1111 00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.280 Yeah, fly me to the moon, but just get to 1112 00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:28.199 me my destination safely. That's all I ask. In the 1113 00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:33.519 wake of a terrible week for commercial and medical aviation 1114 00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:38.199 in our country last week, to say the least, I 1115 00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:41.360 got my own aviation expert, a guy with twenty six 1116 00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:46.400 years experience as a pilot, a commercial airlines pilot, and 1117 00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:51.000 he's aviation. It's been his whole life. He co owns 1118 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:53.840 a plane with some buddies and he's now our guest 1119 00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:57.840 tonight to discuss a little bit about what goes on 1120 00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:02.119 in the air and on the ground, and especially specifically 1121 00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:07.199 at Washington National Reagan National Airport in Washington, DC, where 1122 00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:12.000 the horrible occurrence happened last week of the commercial airliner 1123 00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:19.840 colliding with an army helicopter, sixty seven lives lost. And man, 1124 00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:24.280 it's a busy airport. He's flown in there numerous times 1125 00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:28.599 to talk about that and some other aspects of this topic. 1126 00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:31.599 Ken Carly joins us Ken, good evening. 1127 00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:34.679 Putting and Garret Jef, how are you doing tonight? 1128 00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:39.760 Doing fantastic. I'm glad. I'm glad we're out of January 1129 00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:42.840 and into February. I'm looking forward to more sixty degree 1130 00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:45.800 days like we had today, although I heard it's going 1131 00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:48.760 to zoom back down to the bottom at the tail 1132 00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:52.440 end of this week. Anyway, let's get to the subject 1133 00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.679 at hand. You told me the other day when we 1134 00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:59.519 were talking that you flew into Reagan National many times, 1135 00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:04.599 me about that airport and about the short porch as 1136 01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:07.480 they say, and all of the traffic that's. 1137 01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:14.800 There, well, pilots, pilots like lots of concrete. Okay, the 1138 01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:16.159 longer the runway, the better. 1139 01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:16.920 Okay. 1140 01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:22.599 I'd to hand me a two mile runway anytime. Unfortunately, 1141 01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:25.440 an airport like that that's landlocked. I can recall the 1142 01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:27.880 first time I went in there. I was I was 1143 01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:30.840 the third pilot on seven twenty seven, many many years ago, 1144 01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:34.519 and we did the river visual approach coming down the 1145 01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:39.079 Potomac from the north, and it basically followed the river 1146 01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:42.360 on when you have visual queues, there's actually lights on 1147 01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:45.559 the bridges approaching, but they want you over the suner 1148 01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:48.760 of the runway so that you know, the noise minimal. 1149 01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:52.360 But when I saw the gyrations that you had to 1150 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:56.480 make to get in there and land, you know, a 1151 01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:59.000 late turn if anybody's been in their landing south, a 1152 01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:03.360 late turn right kind of around the Pentagon there to 1153 01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:09.159 land south at at Washington National or Reagan. It's just 1154 01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:11.960 you know, it was a little over a mile a runway, 1155 01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:15.360 but it doesn't look that much. And of course with 1156 01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:20.039 water at both ends, it's just not It's never been 1157 01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:22.519 a real comfortable place. I think you get used to it, 1158 01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:25.360 but it's not your first choice as to where you 1159 01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:28.960 like going, much much like New York's LaGuardia is with 1160 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:31.320 you know, water on three sides. 1161 01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:31.840 Yeah. 1162 01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:39.079 So now, yeah, the introduction, the introduction of the military aircraft, 1163 01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:43.480 the helicopter there, And did it make any sense to 1164 01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:48.039 you that the helicopter apparently was at three or four 1165 01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:51.000 hundred feet when the ceiling for that particular area is 1166 01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:53.679 two hundred feet, that that is an unusual occurrence. And 1167 01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:56.320 did you have to deal with any military aircraft while 1168 01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:59.119 you were trying to land in that short porch at 1169 01:01:59.119 --> 01:01:59.960 Reagan National. 1170 01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:03.920 Well, you'd always see them passing up and down the 1171 01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:07.159 river or maybe over the land, because there's obviously Coast 1172 01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:12.599 Guard working there, Navy, Army, I mean Secret Service. There's 1173 01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:16.119 constant air traffic around that area, and that's only increased 1174 01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:20.440 since I retired, so I think you always saw it. 1175 01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:24.519 But the interesting part about this when you land to 1176 01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:28.000 the north there, like they were using arrivals to the north. 1177 01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:30.320 They call that the Mount Vernon visual approach because the 1178 01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:33.960 PLI is very similar, very close to the Woodrow Wilson 1179 01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:37.840 Bridge and right near Mount Vernon, but the river on 1180 01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:40.559 to the south of the airport's pretty straight, so you 1181 01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:44.119 generally make a fairly straight in approach. The odd thing 1182 01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:47.679 to me was this airplane was landing on runway three 1183 01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:51.440 to three, which, if you don't know anything about runway numbering, 1184 01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:53.320 it's the number on the runway is. 1185 01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:54.239 The magnetic heading. 1186 01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:57.960 So if you're landing on runway one, you're landing ten 1187 01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:01.199 degrees just off the north in this case three three 1188 01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:04.360 points to the northwest three hundred and thirty degrees. So 1189 01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:06.920 they what they do is they use that runway three 1190 01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:11.639 to three as a kind of an overflow if because 1191 01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:15.719 runway one one nine at at Reagan is the busiest 1192 01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:19.400 runway in the world, it's always got an airplane either 1193 01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:23.440 to party on it or landing. And what happens is 1194 01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.400 is that you you generally UH if they if the 1195 01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:29.480 rivals start getting too close together and they can't get 1196 01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:31.440 a departure out, they'll ask someone, hey, do you want 1197 01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:33.079 to can you land for on three to three four 1198 01:03:33.159 --> 01:03:36.400 US And that was a very rare occurrence. I don't 1199 01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:38.599 think the larger jets don't do that, but some of 1200 01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:42.840 the commuters and and some of the fixed wing UH 1201 01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:46.679 propeller airplanes would do that. But the odd thing was 1202 01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:49.159 is that they kind of acted that night of the 1203 01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:51.360 accident like this was a normal procedure, and maybe it 1204 01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:54.599 is more normal now. But you have to break off 1205 01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:56.840 to the right and get near the shore on the 1206 01:03:56.880 --> 01:03:59.440 other side of the Potomac and that's where a lot 1207 01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:03.320 of that helicopter traffic is going north and south. So 1208 01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:07.480 we never did that in the larger aircraft, but I 1209 01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:09.599 can see where the commuters are probably asked to. 1210 01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:10.360 Do that quite a bit. 1211 01:04:10.519 --> 01:04:14.320 Just as a pilots hate to turn down controllers as 1212 01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:16.000 long as you can turn them down and say no, 1213 01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:18.559 I don't want to do that, but typically you want 1214 01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:21.719 to all work together and if it's not an unsafe operation, 1215 01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:25.960 you'll do it. But no way to tell this was 1216 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:27.519 going to turn out the way it did obviously. 1217 01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:29.760 Well, we got about a minute left. Ken talking to 1218 01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:35.519 Ken Carly a lifetime a career pilot, commercial Airlines pilot 1219 01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:40.519 and he also flew commuters. But Ken, with about a 1220 01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:43.800 minute left, just give me your thoughts, your first thoughts 1221 01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:47.320 about what happened in Philadelphia with the med jet crashing 1222 01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:52.639 into that neighborhood and a big fireball, and did you 1223 01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:55.719 have any feelings there about what might have happened. 1224 01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:00.760 Well, it's one of a couple things. To have a 1225 01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:03.880 projectile come down like it did. There had to be 1226 01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:08.760 some structural issues. It had to be some part of 1227 01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:11.559 the aircraft maybe come off, and that can be due 1228 01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:17.679 to extreme stresses on the airplane. Possibly could have been 1229 01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:22.320 a maintenance issue that was left unresolved, but I think 1230 01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:25.920 really it just it it was a loss of control. 1231 01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:30.480 This wasn't something you know, you just when you have 1232 01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:33.880 something come down that fas it's either stalled because of 1233 01:05:34.559 --> 01:05:37.639 a problem on the airplane itself, one of the tail 1234 01:05:37.840 --> 01:05:41.199 or a wing or you know, but typically it's a 1235 01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:44.280 loss of control. And that's definitely they just got to 1236 01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:46.519 figure out what caused that loss of control for them 1237 01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:47.760 because it wasn't recoverable. 1238 01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:51.599 Yeah, and there's nothing to suggest that anything the faery 1239 01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:56.480 has happened aboard the plane. Yet it doesn't sound like it. 1240 01:05:56.519 --> 01:06:00.800 I mean, there was some speculation about some oxygen. I 1241 01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:03.199 mean I did know about an accident way back that 1242 01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:07.280 had an oxygen bottle explode because they were faring an 1243 01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:09.920 airplane smoking and there was a leak and it caused 1244 01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:13.000 an explosion. Well, I don't think I don't think this 1245 01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.320 was a case. They certainly weren't smoking in an airplane 1246 01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:18.679 with a metal patient on board, no doubt about it. 1247 01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:21.360 Listen, thank you for your time, and we'll see at 1248 01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:21.639 the bar. 1249 01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:25.719 All right, No problem, Gary, Jeff, anytime, all. 1250 01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:29.400 Right, Ken Carly on the Nightcap. As we continue one 1251 01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:32.800 of the January sixth release Ease is on the way. 1252 01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:38.400 Next on seven hundred WLW, George mass Gil It was 1253 01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:43.760 the president of something called Reach exclamation Point exclamation Point United, 1254 01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:48.800 a nonprofit launching a national campaign to hopefully dramatically reduce 1255 01:06:48.840 --> 01:06:51.920 overdose deests and improve the access and quality of treatment 1256 01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:55.239 for those fighting the disease of addiction. As we all know, 1257 01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:58.840 and the President has made very clear, President Trump, that 1258 01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:02.599 this is one of the priorities of his new administration, 1259 01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:07.039 is stopping the flow of fentanyl. But what about those 1260 01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:11.920 who have already succumbed to the addiction, died from ventanyl overdoses. 1261 01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:15.159 There has got to be something to help the hundreds 1262 01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:20.079 of thousands of Americans out of this miserable pit of 1263 01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:24.159 despair that they have been plunged into because of addiction. 1264 01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:27.760 An addiction is not new. We have alcohol addiction, we 1265 01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:31.760 have all kinds of drug addiction. But the fentanyl crisis 1266 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:38.199 has become increasingly deadly and deadlier than anything we've seen 1267 01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:40.559 in quite a while. To speak to that again, the 1268 01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:44.119 president of Reach United, George Massingil, joins us to talk 1269 01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:47.920 about some possible Solutions. George, welcome to the program. I'm 1270 01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:50.639 glad you could say take some time out to get 1271 01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:53.800 your message out on this and. 1272 01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:56.920 Hello, thank you so much. 1273 01:07:57.400 --> 01:08:00.440 I really appreciate you having me on the show, and 1274 01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:05.880 I appreciate you your introduction. And you're one hundred percent right. 1275 01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:10.039 We have a major epidemic on our hands. I've been 1276 01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:15.519 working in treatment industry for thirty seven years, and I 1277 01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:20.720 don't think we could even imagine today what we imagine 1278 01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:22.960 twenty years ago, what it would be like. I looked 1279 01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:29.239 at a statistic about nineteen ninety one, we had four 1280 01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:34.000 thousand overdose debts in the United States of America. We've 1281 01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:38.560 had over one hundred thousand consecutively for nine years, not 1282 01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:42.159 almost ten years. We've had a million young men and 1283 01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:45.680 women die from fentanyl overdose in the last seven years. 1284 01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:51.920 So you're talking about an epidemic beyond and I call 1285 01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:56.119 it a pandemic because we've not really figured out how 1286 01:08:56.159 --> 01:09:00.319 to stop it. We claim we slowed it down a 1287 01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:03.680 little bit. I saw some statistics come out and that 1288 01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:06.199 may be a little bit true. We've also lost one 1289 01:09:06.279 --> 01:09:09.239 hundred thousand this last year that are out of the 1290 01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:11.439 mix now, so I'm not sure how much we've slowed 1291 01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:16.079 it down, but uh, we have a really drastic problem 1292 01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:21.680 on our hands, more than I think the general public 1293 01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:25.039 really even knows. I know we talk about it, but uh, 1294 01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:30.239 you know, we're we're losing at a rapid rate young 1295 01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:32.800 men and women under thirty years old who would be 1296 01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:37.199 entering the workforce and are entering our service to fight 1297 01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:41.399 for our country, and they're all dying. We are, we're 1298 01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:42.079 losing them. 1299 01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:44.720 It's a it's a it's a hold. It's a whole generation. 1300 01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:49.760 It's a generation. We're losing a generation. We we honestly, 1301 01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:53.239 that's a great way to put it. I mean, when 1302 01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:57.720 you when you think about three hundred individuals, A plane 1303 01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:03.520 seven thirty seven plane slams the ground every day, seven 1304 01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:07.600 days a week, and that three hundred people die seven 1305 01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:11.600 days a week. And we've not even started to be 1306 01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:15.039 able to stop that. We may have, we've still got 1307 01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:17.840 a plane crash and every day maybe it's two hundred 1308 01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:20.359 and seventy nine people a day. 1309 01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:24.119 Yeah, it is a terrible, terrible situation. 1310 01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:29.840 No, no consolation there, George. Let's talk about the new administration, 1311 01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:32.760 and not that anybody's going to be able to come 1312 01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:36.439 in and snap their fingers and stop this. But as 1313 01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:40.000 far as stopping the flow of the poison coming into 1314 01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:44.439 the country, is that at least just to start, do 1315 01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:46.479 you think I do. 1316 01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:49.399 I'm really glad to hear what the President's doing. I 1317 01:10:49.399 --> 01:10:52.680 think it's fantastic. I think we have to we have 1318 01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:57.000 to attack it that way at the border, both both borders, 1319 01:10:57.159 --> 01:11:01.239 and that will help. I think absolutely. I think we 1320 01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:04.319 have to. We have to launch an initiative at the 1321 01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:08.399 mail with the mail as well, and use some technology. 1322 01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:11.319 And I've heard that being kicked around that that hasn't 1323 01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:14.840 come to the media yet, but that that there's a 1324 01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:18.279 way to use AI and and our mail system and 1325 01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:22.840 target potential places that they're dropping it now because we know, 1326 01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:27.159 you know, we know, uh, you know places and overdoses 1327 01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:32.000 are high and arrest are high. So the real quick 1328 01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:35.560 answer is, yes, the President is making some bold steps 1329 01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:38.319 on that front, and I think it will help. I 1330 01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:39.800 think we have to do a lot more, but I 1331 01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:40.600 think that helps. 1332 01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:46.760 How is a reach United suggesting that we help those 1333 01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:51.159 who are already suffering with the disease of addiction, especially 1334 01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:56.720 of fentanyl. You're you're looking at a focus plan to 1335 01:11:56.760 --> 01:12:01.359 allocate twenty five percent of opioid settlement to life saving 1336 01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:06.239 initiatives that could save lives. Tell me about how this 1337 01:12:06.279 --> 01:12:07.399 would work, George. 1338 01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:12.000 We have a very focused approach at twenty five and 1339 01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:15.720 we announced that Jerome Adams that's on our advisory committee 1340 01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:19.880 was Trump's surgeon general in the last cycle. Jerome is 1341 01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:20.640 on our team. 1342 01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:21.159 Yeah. 1343 01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:23.880 We made an announcement with Jerome a couple of weeks 1344 01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:30.880 ago on DC. We are suggesting, begging, pleading, hopefully encouraging 1345 01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:35.399 over the opio debatement dollars, the billions that have been 1346 01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:37.720 one on the backs of the kids that have died. 1347 01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:42.079 Let's take twenty five percent of that and spend that 1348 01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:47.399 on putting overdose reversal drugs NARCAN, the locks on op 1349 01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:53.399 the patagans drugs out into common areas where people can 1350 01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:57.720 get those, like convenience stores. We just launched a project 1351 01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:01.039 in Tennessee where we put out vending machine and then 1352 01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:04.600 we're putting up billboards with the members of the Titans 1353 01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:09.199 football team holding up a the locks on box saying, 1354 01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:12.119 you know, please carrying the locks on. So we have 1355 01:13:12.159 --> 01:13:16.760 a very focused approach that is saying, let's use twenty 1356 01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:20.800 five percent of that money and let's flood this country 1357 01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:26.399 with the locks on products overdose reversal drugs hop fee 1358 01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:30.520 that can save lives until the death rate drops by 1359 01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:34.279 twenty five percent, So until it gets down to sixty 1360 01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:39.720 seventy thousand. Let's focus our money there before we do 1361 01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:44.159 anything else, because we know that if someone is dying 1362 01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:47.680 that we could squirt the locks on in their nose 1363 01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:52.319 and save them. That's a terrible thing. And we think 1364 01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:55.479 right now across the country that you know, we have 1365 01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:59.119 a lot of fantastic people putting the locks on in 1366 01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:01.479 health department, and there's a lot of people doing a 1367 01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:02.199 lot of good work. 1368 01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:03.720 But if I walk. 1369 01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:08.479 Into a restaurant in town and say how many folks 1370 01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:12.239 in here are carrying overdose reversal drugs, I'd say twenty 1371 01:14:13.239 --> 01:14:16.840 I would say fifty percent doesn't even know what it is. 1372 01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:21.560 So we have to change that narrative immediately and let 1373 01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:24.039 folks know that you should. If you're a soccer mom 1374 01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:26.840 carrying the lock Sohong, if you're a pastor carrying the 1375 01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:30.319 lock song, if you're whatever, carrying the lockshoun. So that's 1376 01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:34.399 our focus right now, primarily with Reach and twenty five 1377 01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:37.640 is to get that message out and work with states 1378 01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:40.760 and counties and cities to make that happen. 1379 01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:44.960 Well. Saving lives is certainly the main thing, George, but 1380 01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:49.640 preventing the addiction in the first place said, the role 1381 01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:54.800 that pharmaceutical companies played, the role i e. The opioid settlements, 1382 01:14:55.760 --> 01:15:01.920 the role that doctors played and hospital played in stoking 1383 01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:06.000 the fire of this. I mean, has everyone fully been 1384 01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:07.800 held to account for what they did? 1385 01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:15.760 That's a hard question. It probably not, probably not. I 1386 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:19.960 think that that that that there's an attempt to do that, 1387 01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:23.399 and that will go on, I think, And you know, well, 1388 01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:28.159 you have to look at the situation was so ripe, 1389 01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:33.239 and you're right, the pharmaceutical companies led the charge, which 1390 01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:36.159 they do as you know in most cases, to the 1391 01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:39.399 problems we have. You know, we're a medicine driven society. 1392 01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:43.840 We're not really a pure society. We are through medicine 1393 01:15:43.880 --> 01:15:47.159 at it because it makes people money. Yes, So when 1394 01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:49.920 you look at that and you have a society that 1395 01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:53.880 you think about it, you know we don't communicate. Well, 1396 01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:56.520 we have the perfect storm going on. In the last 1397 01:15:56.800 --> 01:16:01.960 fifteen years, we've lost the communication ability of families talking 1398 01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:06.079 to each other, of just community has went away. For 1399 01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:09.119 the most part, and we're all in this world of 1400 01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:11.399 internet and da da da da dah. 1401 01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:13.560 So when you do that and. 1402 01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:18.760 Then you introduce a drug that addicts people immediately, you 1403 01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:22.520 have the perfect storm. So, you know, has everybody been 1404 01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:25.960 held accountable as they should to kill off a million people? 1405 01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:29.199 Probably not, you know what I mean. I mean, you know, 1406 01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:36.159 we're not talking about a minor. Somebody didn't say what 1407 01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:40.119 they ought to say. I really feel like, and you know, 1408 01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:43.079 we talk a lot about this that you know, China 1409 01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:46.720 now is sending fentanyl. I mean, that's the primary manufacturer 1410 01:16:46.720 --> 01:16:49.199 of fentanyl, you know, And. 1411 01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:51.720 And and we're we're at war with that. 1412 01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:54.920 I mean, when you really think about it, it's an 1413 01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:59.000 act of war to kill three hundred people a day. 1414 01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:02.760 You know, you killing three hundred people a day in 1415 01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:05.600 a country. So we have a lot I say that 1416 01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:09.319 to say, there's a lot of people to hold accountable. 1417 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:13.479 There's a lot of countries to hold accountable. We're heading 1418 01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:17.079 in that direction. I think we have an administration that 1419 01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:20.199 uh and there's a lot there. I mean the president 1420 01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:21.920 you have, but I think there's a lot of other 1421 01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:25.439 people going into office right now that understand this. 1422 01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:27.840 And we'll begin to put those pieces in place. 1423 01:17:27.920 --> 01:17:31.079 I feel George massing Gil, thank you so much. Unfortunately, 1424 01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:32.920 our time is up for now, but I plan on 1425 01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:36.760 checking back in with you soon. Reach United is the 1426 01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:41.880 name of the group, and thank you so much, God 1427 01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:42.239 bless you. 1428 01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:43.319 Thank you. 1429 01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:45.479 You can tell your folks to go to our website 1430 01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:49.720 dreach team dot com dreach team dot com to learn more. 1431 01:17:49.880 --> 01:17:52.319 All right, thank you so much, George, God bless you. 1432 01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:58.840 It's the nightcap on seven hundred WLW. One of many 1433 01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:03.680 conversations that I have had with a J six defendant. 1434 01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:07.079 And January sixth, twenty twenty one, as we all know, 1435 01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:09.760 unless you've been living under a rock for the last 1436 01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:15.680 ten years, protesters gathered at the US Capitol. They came 1437 01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:19.359 first to hear Donald Trump at the Ellipse and he 1438 01:18:19.479 --> 01:18:25.560 asked them, too, peacefully go to the Capitol and let 1439 01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:29.159 your feelings be known about the twenty twenty election. And 1440 01:18:29.239 --> 01:18:32.720 it was just it was another Trump rally that happened 1441 01:18:33.800 --> 01:18:37.319 at the Capitol just before Joe Biden was going to 1442 01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:40.520 eventually take office. And there are many people who were 1443 01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:44.680 not happy about that event and how the twenty twenty 1444 01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:48.680 election turned out. In fact, in the years since, in 1445 01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:52.600 a court of law in Pennsylvania. A judge agreed that 1446 01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:57.079 the election in that state was in fact illegal and 1447 01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:01.960 the votes in Pennsylvania and been stolen. That's a matter 1448 01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:06.000 of fact. I've talked to the lawyer on this program tonight. 1449 01:19:06.920 --> 01:19:12.720 A J six defendant who was incarcerated was freed with 1450 01:19:12.840 --> 01:19:16.039 a stroke of a pen by President Donald J. Trump 1451 01:19:16.960 --> 01:19:19.880 on his first day in office. It took a while, 1452 01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:22.680 but finally got out of the gulag, out of prison, 1453 01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:25.960 and she is here to speak with us tonight. She 1454 01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:30.479 is a mother of eight, a grandma, and someone who 1455 01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:35.359 was patriotically and peacefully up to a point protesting at 1456 01:19:35.359 --> 01:19:38.960 the Capitol on that day, and now she is finally 1457 01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:44.079 out of the huscal. Rachel Powell joins us. Rachel, good evening, 1458 01:19:44.079 --> 01:19:46.479 and thank you for being on the show. 1459 01:19:47.319 --> 01:19:51.359 Thanks for having me. So good to hear our stories 1460 01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:52.279 told finally. 1461 01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:55.760 Yeah, so I want to know a little bit about 1462 01:19:55.800 --> 01:20:00.039 your story. Tell me from beginning from you decide and 1463 01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:02.720 you're gonna go to Washington. You're gonna hear President Trump. 1464 01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:09.199 You're gonna go to the capital. Take me through that day, okay, 1465 01:20:10.039 --> 01:20:11.960 and what you've done? All right? 1466 01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:13.560 Sure? 1467 01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:17.520 Well for me, it really starts. 1468 01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:22.319 Before that day, I had gone to many protests because 1469 01:20:22.359 --> 01:20:25.039 in my state of Pennsylvania, when COVID hit, they were 1470 01:20:25.079 --> 01:20:27.560 telling us who's essential and who's not essential, and so 1471 01:20:28.479 --> 01:20:32.319 I just was not okay with what was happening in 1472 01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:36.479 our country. And so I've been going to protest and 1473 01:20:37.119 --> 01:20:41.720 I believe in an election fraud for years. When Trump 1474 01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:45.239 had that election stolen, to me, that wasn't surprising because 1475 01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:48.119 I know that there's been problems with the voting machines 1476 01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:52.039 for years, and so when he wanted us to go 1477 01:20:52.079 --> 01:20:54.920 to DC, it was kind of like, finally, let's we're 1478 01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:57.319 going to talk about the election fraud and these and 1479 01:20:57.359 --> 01:21:00.640 these issues. You know, we're getting it's out in the 1480 01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:03.439 open that there's these problems. But with Trump, it was 1481 01:21:03.520 --> 01:21:07.560 so in our faith that everybody thought. Everybody saw the 1482 01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:13.119 election problems that year. And so I went to DC 1483 01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:16.920 and I could barely see Trump. He was like a 1484 01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:19.279 little blip on a screen because I was way back 1485 01:21:19.319 --> 01:21:22.439 at the Washington Monument, could barely hear him speak. 1486 01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:26.039 And I went to the Capital ahead of most. 1487 01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:28.880 People just because I couldn't hear him, I couldn't see him, 1488 01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:30.960 So why not just head up to the Capitol, and 1489 01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:32.720 I've been to f protest in DC. 1490 01:21:33.119 --> 01:21:33.920 It's pretty normal. 1491 01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:36.359 You go walk up the street, you walk around the Capitol, 1492 01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:41.800 shouldn't be anything out of the ordinary. Usually we do 1493 01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:46.319 some chance and we meet like minded people, and it's 1494 01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:50.560 a lot of protests have a festive atmosphere, and so 1495 01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:54.319 that's what I thought January sixth would me. But I 1496 01:21:54.359 --> 01:21:58.079 get to the Capitol, there's still a barricade up around 1497 01:21:58.079 --> 01:22:02.039 the capitol. It's a public side walk, and I was 1498 01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:04.600 on the west side, which is considered the violent side 1499 01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:07.079 of the Capitol, and the. 1500 01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:09.279 Police were up on the balcony and they were just 1501 01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:12.239 shooting down into the crowd of people not very long 1502 01:22:12.279 --> 01:22:15.079 after I got there, and we were so confused, like 1503 01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:17.600 why are they shooting us? 1504 01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:20.039 And I know that they're supposed to be rubber bullets, 1505 01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:24.199 but in those temperatures, it was like shooting rocks at us, 1506 01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:27.479 and they're shooting down into the crowd. The guy near me, 1507 01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:30.640 his name's Joshua Black. He got shot in his space, 1508 01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:33.439 so I could look at a hole through his cheek, 1509 01:22:34.239 --> 01:22:38.439 and then of course the pepper spray started and the tears. 1510 01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:40.399 Well, uh, what do they called him? 1511 01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:45.319 Flash bangs started and it just became very violent, and. 1512 01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:46.600 That was so unexpected. 1513 01:22:47.399 --> 01:22:50.640 Rachel, stop, stop just for a second. Why were the 1514 01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:53.800 Capitol police shooting you? What? What was the crowd doing 1515 01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:58.800 that deserved to have rubber bullets and flash flash bangs 1516 01:22:59.039 --> 01:23:01.960 in their face? What were you doing when they were shooting? 1517 01:23:03.439 --> 01:23:06.159 Well, that's what makes it so confusing, because we weren't 1518 01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:09.079 doing anything out of the ordinary. We were standing on 1519 01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:14.079 a public sidewalk holding signs. You know, we weren't doing 1520 01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:18.680 anything violent. I didn't see anybody at that time trying 1521 01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:23.199 to cause any trouble whatsoever, and so we were all 1522 01:23:23.319 --> 01:23:27.199 very confused, and a lot of I saw grown men asking, 1523 01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:29.199 you know, please and yelling at the. 1524 01:23:29.159 --> 01:23:30.600 Police stop, please stop. 1525 01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:35.199 We love you, you know. It was just very confusing. 1526 01:23:35.319 --> 01:23:37.800 And at other protests, if something starts to get a 1527 01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:43.359 little out of control, the police usually diffused the situation, 1528 01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:46.000 and I've seen that done at other protests, but this 1529 01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:47.279 was the opposite. 1530 01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:50.560 It was being insided. 1531 01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:56.960 And when we when the protesters were met with violence, Unfortunately, 1532 01:23:57.199 --> 01:24:01.399 some of us became violent. But I don't believe that 1533 01:24:01.560 --> 01:24:03.960 was the intention that day. I don't think that was 1534 01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:07.039 supposed to happen. I just I just don't believe it, 1535 01:24:07.119 --> 01:24:09.840 because if we went there with the intention to be 1536 01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:12.720 insurrectionists and that's how the day went, we would be 1537 01:24:12.760 --> 01:24:17.239 the worst insurrectionist ever. I mean, everybody's unarmed, you know, 1538 01:24:18.520 --> 01:24:22.800 we show up for an insurrection with signs and d shirts. 1539 01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:27.880 You know, it just doesn't make any sense. So yeah, 1540 01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:30.479 I don't. I can't tell you why they were shooting 1541 01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:33.239 us and acting the way that they were from the beginning. 1542 01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:40.079 Well, what it's just very very much confuses me because 1543 01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:43.199 you listen to the other side of the story, the 1544 01:24:43.239 --> 01:24:47.000 weaponized DOJ side of the story, the FBI side of 1545 01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:52.399 the story. Rachel and this mob was looking was out 1546 01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:56.239 for blood, and all the lawmakers were in fear for 1547 01:24:56.319 --> 01:25:01.079 their lives, and they were perpetrating violence against the Capitol police, 1548 01:25:01.079 --> 01:25:04.359 and that's why the Capitol police responded the way they did. 1549 01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:08.199 You're painting an entirely different picture for me. Although you 1550 01:25:08.239 --> 01:25:12.720 did admit that some in your crowd they responded to 1551 01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:18.000 the violence that was being incited with violence, and that happens. 1552 01:25:18.039 --> 01:25:24.199 It's kind of human nature to do that. But why 1553 01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:29.359 are they continuing to lie about a majority of the 1554 01:25:29.479 --> 01:25:33.199 January sixth defendants as they continue to do to this 1555 01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:38.880 very day. There and there are lawmakers and there are 1556 01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:45.079 officials in law enforcement, particularly the FBI, that are insisting 1557 01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:49.119 they didn't have informants or undercover agents in the crowd 1558 01:25:49.199 --> 01:25:55.600 inciting the violence. Did you see anyone that looked like 1559 01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:58.319 they really weren't part of your crowd, but they were 1560 01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:00.680 in the middle of that crowd and they were the 1561 01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:04.720 more violent ones. Did you see anyone in that crowd 1562 01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:07.119 trying to incite the rest of you to violence? 1563 01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:10.920 Rachel No, I didn't. 1564 01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:14.720 I didn't see anybody that seemed out of the ordinary, 1565 01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:17.399 But then the whole day was out of the ordinary, 1566 01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:24.920 so it was just, you know, my understanding is when 1567 01:26:25.079 --> 01:26:30.199 people were getting attacked some January sixth, people tried to 1568 01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:35.159 stop those attacks, and when the barricades were being kidding 1569 01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:38.239 just like the police were pushing the barricades on us, 1570 01:26:38.520 --> 01:26:42.640 and when they kept doing that, it was protesters that 1571 01:26:42.760 --> 01:26:44.439 removed those barricades. 1572 01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:49.720 But we I didn't see. 1573 01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:53.039 Anybody that was like, oh, I'm going to hurt the police, 1574 01:26:53.159 --> 01:26:55.920 or let's attack the police. I didn't hear anybody saying 1575 01:26:56.279 --> 01:26:59.399 let's take them down or anything like that. 1576 01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:04.119 Do you think if if Donald Trump had been able 1577 01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:09.159 to as he requested. He offered Nancy Pelosi and Chuck 1578 01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:12.840 Schumer Uh the National Guard there, and he said it 1579 01:27:12.840 --> 01:27:16.119 probably wouldn't have taken too many to control, you know, 1580 01:27:16.159 --> 01:27:19.319 whatever rebel rousers there were in the crowd that stormed 1581 01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:26.000 the Capitol and Uh allegedly committed the violent acts. Do 1582 01:27:26.079 --> 01:27:30.960 you feel like if there'd been National Guard there aiding 1583 01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:33.079 the Capitol police, that a lot of this would not 1584 01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:33.880 have occurred at all? 1585 01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:39.319 Okay, I don't know if the Capitol police were doing 1586 01:27:39.399 --> 01:27:42.800 it on purpose or if they're just not trained well. 1587 01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:46.640 But I feel like if there was anybody trained. 1588 01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:50.159 Well, and maybe that would have been with the National Guard, 1589 01:27:51.439 --> 01:27:54.640 the day would have gone completely different. If the police 1590 01:27:54.680 --> 01:27:58.159 just weren't shooting us from the beginning, and they would 1591 01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:01.119 have just let us stand on the public side and 1592 01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:05.560 can't and you know, meet each other at the end 1593 01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:07.399 of the day, we would have all just gone home, 1594 01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:11.800 just like at every other rally. And so, yeah, the 1595 01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:15.279 National Guard probably would have made a difference, because I 1596 01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:20.079 would assume that they're strained to handle the situation better. 1597 01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:22.720 I don't understand why they weren't brought in in the 1598 01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:25.479 first place, and that's one of those big questions, you know, 1599 01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:30.880 why didn't been there and why didn't Pelosi bring them in? 1600 01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:32.439 Because it was offered for help. 1601 01:28:33.439 --> 01:28:37.760 Yeah, Donald Trump offered the extra security through the National Guard, 1602 01:28:38.399 --> 01:28:42.560 and it was up to Pelosi and maryel Bowser to 1603 01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:45.880 decide whether they would accept or reject that, and they 1604 01:28:45.920 --> 01:28:51.359 rejected it, and it kind of makes you question their reasoning. 1605 01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:53.239 I'll tell you what, if you can hang on just 1606 01:28:53.279 --> 01:28:54.880 a second, I'm going to take a quick break and 1607 01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:57.840 come back, because I want to hear about your time 1608 01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:01.399 in the DC gulog and what they did to you 1609 01:29:02.479 --> 01:29:06.760 as far as you know, the whole rit of Habeas 1610 01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:11.680 corpus thing, and your ability to communicate with your attorneys, 1611 01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:13.760 and all the other horror stories that I have heard 1612 01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:17.079 from other J six ers. Rachel Powell is our guest. 1613 01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:22.039 She's free now, free at last, Free at last, Thank 1614 01:29:22.119 --> 01:29:25.439 God Almighty, She's free at last. We'll be right back 1615 01:29:25.479 --> 01:29:29.359 with more in a moment. On seven hundred, WLW pardoned 1616 01:29:29.640 --> 01:29:36.239 January sixth defendant Rachel Powell, who was on on January sixth, 1617 01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:38.560 twenty twenty one, in our nation's capital. She was one 1618 01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:41.079 of the many who were scooped up by the Feds 1619 01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:46.279 and accused of I don't know, parading and whatever other 1620 01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:49.600 charge they could come up. Nobody was charged with insurrection, 1621 01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:53.680 even though that's what we continue to hear happened on 1622 01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:58.520 that day. Rachel Powell, you weren't in You say you 1623 01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:02.199 weren't incarcerated in d What did you get arrested for? First? 1624 01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:08.399 Okay, well, I've owned it this whole time. I did 1625 01:30:08.439 --> 01:30:12.359 break the window on January six I was up at 1626 01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:14.760 the tunnel when Roseanne boil And died and the whole 1627 01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:17.600 situation was out of control. It was a six hundred 1628 01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:20.760 dollars window, which is actually a misdemeanor charge because the 1629 01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:23.760 windows less than a thousand dollars. But I didn't just 1630 01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:28.359 get property destruction. I ended up with three felonies, one 1631 01:30:28.399 --> 01:30:31.600 of which the Supreme Court said later on, you can't 1632 01:30:31.680 --> 01:30:35.079 use against these January sixth people. And then I had 1633 01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:39.119 six misdemeanors, so there were you know, civil disorder charges, 1634 01:30:39.399 --> 01:30:42.359 and I mean, really, I should have been responsible for 1635 01:30:42.399 --> 01:30:44.600 that window. I'm sorry for the window. I'm sorry for 1636 01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:47.880 going places I shouldn't have been, but it was still 1637 01:30:48.119 --> 01:30:50.680 blown out of proportion, and they ended up giving me 1638 01:30:50.920 --> 01:30:52.560 almost a five year setence. 1639 01:30:53.079 --> 01:30:54.920 Why did you break the window? Rachel? 1640 01:30:56.560 --> 01:30:59.600 Well, I had just seen Roseanne boil and die while 1641 01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:02.560 I heard die, and once I got to the bottom 1642 01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:04.640 of the pile, she was just laying there and I 1643 01:31:04.680 --> 01:31:08.920 thought I could give a CPR, but the police are 1644 01:31:09.039 --> 01:31:11.439 probably just going to come out of this hallway and 1645 01:31:11.560 --> 01:31:15.760 kill me too. And we had all heard that somebody 1646 01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:18.840 had been shot at the Capitol. Who was now we 1647 01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:20.880 know is Ashley bab It. Then we didn't know who 1648 01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:24.840 she was. We just knew somebody was dead. And I 1649 01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:27.239 went and I broke a window to see the layout 1650 01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:29.960 of this other room that was beside us so people 1651 01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:35.119 could fill it. And that's what happened. I didn't go 1652 01:31:35.159 --> 01:31:36.920 there that day with the intended of, Oh, I'm gonna 1653 01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:42.720 bus this capital up, but unfortunately I did. And yeah, 1654 01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:45.720 so that got me almost five years for a sentence 1655 01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:49.520 after a three year strict house arrest where I couldn't 1656 01:31:49.520 --> 01:31:51.720 even go in the yard, couldn't take my kids for 1657 01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:55.399 part of their medical appointments, couldn't go to the grocery store. 1658 01:31:55.720 --> 01:31:56.479 A lot of the time. 1659 01:31:56.520 --> 01:31:59.359 They decided I couldn't even go out to work for 1660 01:31:59.439 --> 01:32:00.079 part of it. 1661 01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:03.399 So for that three years that didn't. 1662 01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:05.600 Count towards my time served at all, and then I 1663 01:32:05.640 --> 01:32:08.319 had an almost five year prison setence given to me 1664 01:32:08.760 --> 01:32:09.439 on top of that. 1665 01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:13.039 All right, so where did they stick you? 1666 01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:21.600 Yeah, I self surrendered to the SFF Hazleton, which is 1667 01:32:21.600 --> 01:32:26.000 in Bruceton Mills, West Virginia. It is a terrible, awful 1668 01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:31.359 it's it's the worst female prison in the United States. 1669 01:32:33.399 --> 01:32:34.359 I see. 1670 01:32:34.399 --> 01:32:37.359 I didn't get my Prisons monthly magazine, so I don't 1671 01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:39.479 know there was a ranking, but it was the worst. 1672 01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:42.920 You say it's the worst women's prison, and that's notorious 1673 01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:44.119 for that, correct. 1674 01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:45.640 That's correct. 1675 01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:48.720 If you did an Internet search on it, you would 1676 01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:52.159 see it's right at the top for the men's facilities 1677 01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:54.319 for being near the top for the worst, but for 1678 01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:57.399 women it is the worst. It's supposed to be a 1679 01:32:57.439 --> 01:33:00.640 women's low, which I should have been in a camp, 1680 01:33:01.199 --> 01:33:04.399 not in a in any kind of higher security prison, 1681 01:33:04.439 --> 01:33:06.600 but they put me in a higher security prison because 1682 01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:13.720 they considered me a domestic terrorist. And the facility is 1683 01:33:13.720 --> 01:33:16.600 supposed to be just women's but it's not just a 1684 01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:20.479 women's facility there. There are biological meal inmates there, which 1685 01:33:20.479 --> 01:33:24.000 I guess they're finally removing. But I reports the house 1686 01:33:24.039 --> 01:33:27.319 with them for a full year, and they're not just male, 1687 01:33:27.840 --> 01:33:31.680 but they're all sex offenders that were there. You know, 1688 01:33:31.800 --> 01:33:34.359 people that you just would never want to house with 1689 01:33:34.479 --> 01:33:38.319 as a female, and they're You're locked in the cell 1690 01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:42.000 most of your time, at least eleven to twelve hours 1691 01:33:42.079 --> 01:33:44.560 a day, sometimes for days on end, where you have 1692 01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:49.680 to share a toilet and the small space. 1693 01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:51.680 With another human being. You're never alone. 1694 01:33:52.439 --> 01:33:56.039 And on top of that, you know, there was basically 1695 01:33:56.039 --> 01:34:02.239 no medical care. The roofs leaps terribly, so we had 1696 01:34:02.279 --> 01:34:05.600 to catch the water coming in in garbage cans and 1697 01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:07.520 it would run down the walls and set the fire 1698 01:34:07.560 --> 01:34:11.039 alarms off. The water in multiple buildings of hot water 1699 01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:15.079 didn't exist, wasn't a thing, so in the winter before 1700 01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:19.960 I left Hazleton, we had cold showers there. And in 1701 01:34:20.079 --> 01:34:23.960 visiting my family, they would come to see me almost weekly. 1702 01:34:24.039 --> 01:34:28.159 My family, they're just amazing, And that prison was about 1703 01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:30.600 three hours from home for my family, so my kids 1704 01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:32.279 would come see me at least once a month, and 1705 01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:35.119 then family and friends would rotate through there. And the 1706 01:34:35.159 --> 01:34:37.840 prison didn't want me having visitors. They told me at 1707 01:34:37.880 --> 01:34:40.319 the beginning, don't have your family come visit you here. 1708 01:34:40.880 --> 01:34:41.720 But when they would. 1709 01:34:41.560 --> 01:34:46.560 Come, each time I got an extra unnecessary stritzer which 1710 01:34:46.680 --> 01:34:50.880 was done totally improper, they would refuse to give me 1711 01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:52.680 a lunch. So if my family came to see me, 1712 01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:53.640 forget it. 1713 01:34:53.800 --> 01:34:57.239 I'm not going to I'm not getting lunch that day. 1714 01:34:58.199 --> 01:35:00.399 And I could keep going on and on, but you know, 1715 01:35:00.479 --> 01:35:03.960 you get the point of how terrible that prison was. 1716 01:35:04.840 --> 01:35:07.960 Oh, it's a it's a psychological kind of torture. There's 1717 01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:12.119 no question about it. It's not just punishment. It is Uh, 1718 01:35:12.319 --> 01:35:15.079 it's torture, period but plain and simple, that's what it's. 1719 01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:17.279 That's what it sounds like to me. Were you denied 1720 01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:20.159 access to your attorneys? What what happened when you would 1721 01:35:20.199 --> 01:35:24.159 go to court? And uh, were they given evidence or 1722 01:35:24.319 --> 01:35:26.000 I mean, what happened there? 1723 01:35:27.640 --> 01:35:29.680 Well, I had to deal with that while I was 1724 01:35:29.720 --> 01:35:32.760 on house wrecks, so I would have to travel out 1725 01:35:32.760 --> 01:35:35.159 to DC for my hearings or do them on zoom 1726 01:35:35.199 --> 01:35:38.840 from the house I was staying in. But they so 1727 01:35:38.960 --> 01:35:42.319 I had access to my lawyers, but I didn't get 1728 01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:46.640 my discovery, you know, the evidence against me until about 1729 01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:49.920 cheeks before my trial. And it was this huge jump 1730 01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:53.279 of evidence which was impossible to sort through, and so 1731 01:35:53.399 --> 01:35:58.279 I felt very ill prepared to take my bench trial. 1732 01:35:59.720 --> 01:36:05.079 Sure, sure, well, I mean, are you starting to get back? 1733 01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:09.159 Are you? Are you let me ask you this? Are 1734 01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:14.479 you upset? Are you? Do you feel regret about going 1735 01:36:14.680 --> 01:36:17.560 to the Capitol on January sixth to exercise your First 1736 01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:20.840 Amendment rights to readdress grievances with the government. 1737 01:36:22.960 --> 01:36:27.600 Okay, well, I have huge regrets for my accents that date. 1738 01:36:27.800 --> 01:36:31.079 I wish I could go back and change things, but 1739 01:36:31.159 --> 01:36:36.239 I can't. That being said, I don't have any regrets 1740 01:36:36.279 --> 01:36:42.039 as an American going to protests and rallies because America, 1741 01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:45.319 do we even have an America. If we don't have 1742 01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:49.159 a fair and free election, we don't. It controls every 1743 01:36:49.239 --> 01:36:53.359 aspect of our life. So I think it's really important 1744 01:36:53.840 --> 01:36:58.520 for Americans to be heard, especially on that subject, and 1745 01:36:58.640 --> 01:37:01.520 for protests to get be able to keep happening without 1746 01:37:01.880 --> 01:37:06.680 having to worry about long prison sentences. Because this is America, 1747 01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:09.079 you know, this is not a third world country. And 1748 01:37:11.600 --> 01:37:14.279 I'm just I'm so sad for what happened on that day. 1749 01:37:16.680 --> 01:37:18.880 It just really shows where country has. 1750 01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:22.479 Gone to and it's sad. So that's that's how I feel. 1751 01:37:23.359 --> 01:37:23.840 About that. 1752 01:37:24.079 --> 01:37:25.520 Do you feel like do you feel like we're on 1753 01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:29.399 the right track again with the President Trump cleaning things out. 1754 01:37:31.039 --> 01:37:34.840 The next four years are going to be maggnificent. 1755 01:37:36.319 --> 01:37:39.760 He is already cleaning up and it's going to be great. 1756 01:37:40.520 --> 01:37:43.920 All right, Rachel Paulla. I appreciate you telling your story 1757 01:37:43.960 --> 01:37:47.319 with us tonight, and I'm so glad that you're out 1758 01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:51.880 and the rest of the people that got pardon simply 1759 01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:57.319 for you know, exercising their constitutional guaranteed rights of freedom 1760 01:37:57.359 --> 01:38:00.800 of expression, freedom of speech, and the ability to assemble 1761 01:38:01.279 --> 01:38:05.159 and air your grievances that you have with the government, because, 1762 01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:10.920 after all, in this country, supposedly the government belongs to us. 1763 01:38:11.359 --> 01:38:16.119 We don't belong to the government. All right, Rach, thank 1764 01:38:16.159 --> 01:38:20.640 you so much. Take care, God bless Rachel Powell j 1765 01:38:20.880 --> 01:38:27.760 sixer now freed. Freed again on seven hundred wlw Uary third, 1766 01:38:27.840 --> 01:38:31.319 twenty twenty five with an old friend we welcome back. 1767 01:38:31.399 --> 01:38:35.319 Have talked to him before, always enjoyed our conversations. He 1768 01:38:35.479 --> 01:38:39.279 knows probably more than I do, which is always good. 1769 01:38:39.560 --> 01:38:41.439 When you're a talk show host, you want to have 1770 01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:43.399 people that are smarter than you on the air with you. 1771 01:38:43.800 --> 01:38:46.800 Kenneth repose it joins us and Ken give me your 1772 01:38:47.399 --> 01:38:50.039 give me your official stats. Where do you come from 1773 01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:52.279 and what do you do? Yees? 1774 01:38:52.439 --> 01:38:54.840 So I am a analyst with the Coalition for a 1775 01:38:54.880 --> 01:38:57.800 Prosperous America and prior to that, I was a staff 1776 01:38:58.119 --> 01:39:00.439 reporter for the Wall Street Journal in Brazil, and then 1777 01:39:01.039 --> 01:39:04.399 after that I worked for Forbes covering the bricks and 1778 01:39:04.560 --> 01:39:07.439 other emerging markets like Mexico for about eleven years. I 1779 01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:08.840 left there in twenty twenty. 1780 01:39:09.239 --> 01:39:12.359 Where is the bricks movement now? Is that still a 1781 01:39:12.479 --> 01:39:14.800 real threat to the American dollar? 1782 01:39:16.439 --> 01:39:18.880 I wouldn't say it's a threat to the American dollar, 1783 01:39:19.199 --> 01:39:21.479 but I would say that the bricks movement as a 1784 01:39:21.479 --> 01:39:26.159 group of large emerging ecmpanies, that's definitely growing. 1785 01:39:26.439 --> 01:39:26.560 Right. 1786 01:39:26.600 --> 01:39:28.680 And let me tell you what you mentioned, the bricks dollar, right, 1787 01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:31.159 So we're talking about tariffs and so on. So that's 1788 01:39:31.159 --> 01:39:33.039 the news over the last two weeks with Trump. So 1789 01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:35.039 you know, Trump had said that, you know, if the 1790 01:39:35.119 --> 01:39:38.079 bricks are going to move away from the dollar, then 1791 01:39:38.479 --> 01:39:40.520 they're going to be hit with one hundred percent tariffs. 1792 01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:41.159 Right. 1793 01:39:41.520 --> 01:39:44.600 Yeah, Now, the bricks only wanted to move, only discuss 1794 01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:48.479 moving away from the dollar because they have seen what 1795 01:39:48.680 --> 01:39:52.319 the US has done under the Biden government with their 1796 01:39:52.399 --> 01:39:57.279 partner nations. They upstate basically froze well not basically, but 1797 01:39:57.359 --> 01:40:01.399 they froze Russian Central Bank money that's never been done before, 1798 01:40:01.439 --> 01:40:04.000 at least not in our lifetime. They think might have 1799 01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:06.600 been done like during the Revolutionary War, but has it 1800 01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:08.119 with the Bank of England. But it hasn't been done 1801 01:40:08.159 --> 01:40:11.239 in our lifetimes. So all these countries you have to imagine, 1802 01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:13.640 are saying, you know, if you're Brazil, you would think 1803 01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:17.079 I'm one felled tree in the Amazon away from being 1804 01:40:17.119 --> 01:40:20.439 sanctioned from by Europe and the United States for climate change. 1805 01:40:20.920 --> 01:40:23.640 Or if you're African nation, you're thinking I'm one band 1806 01:40:23.800 --> 01:40:28.800 pride parade away from not being able to get US aid. Okay, 1807 01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:31.159 So you know, these are countries that have said that 1808 01:40:31.239 --> 01:40:34.359 have said to each other in their you know, in 1809 01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:36.800 their bricks meetings which they have once a year, is 1810 01:40:37.039 --> 01:40:40.079 we're going to figure out a way to diversify away 1811 01:40:40.079 --> 01:40:42.239 from the dollar, because if all of a sudden we 1812 01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:45.560 find ourselves sanctioned, then we can't use the dollar for trade. 1813 01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:47.800 It's going to be very disruptive for us. So we 1814 01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:48.279 have to. 1815 01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:51.479 Prepare for that. And that's why that talk of you know, 1816 01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:53.840 the dollar no longer being in the reserve currency. That's 1817 01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:57.000 where it stems from. Stems from the weaponization of the 1818 01:40:57.079 --> 01:41:00.560 dollar as a sanctioned instrument that's never been used in 1819 01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:02.000 the way that it's been used. 1820 01:41:02.279 --> 01:41:07.079 Right well, and talk about the heavy handedness of using 1821 01:41:07.119 --> 01:41:11.319 the dollar and tariffs. Donald Trump has made it clear. 1822 01:41:11.359 --> 01:41:14.560 I mean he campaigned on this. You know, that's the 1823 01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:17.760 one thing. I've been a Trump supporter for a long time. 1824 01:41:17.800 --> 01:41:20.000 I've voted for the man three times now to be 1825 01:41:20.079 --> 01:41:24.680 president of these United States of America. I And it 1826 01:41:24.720 --> 01:41:26.680 was the same in the first term, even though he 1827 01:41:26.720 --> 01:41:30.560 didn't know his way around the machine in Washington and 1828 01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:34.640 got blindsided by all the persecution and everything that happened 1829 01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:40.640 in his first term. But he has routinely, i mean 1830 01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:45.560 religiously tried to do everything once he got into office 1831 01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:48.479 that he campaigned on, and one of those things was 1832 01:41:48.520 --> 01:41:55.800 bringing down prices and tariffs and charging other countries the 1833 01:41:55.960 --> 01:42:00.560 tax so American's tax burden would be less and alone behold. 1834 01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:04.640 You know, he signed the executive order and tariffs on 1835 01:42:04.760 --> 01:42:08.960 Mexico and Canada at twenty five percent, on China, further 1836 01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:15.279 tariffs on Chinese products, and and and and we're seeing 1837 01:42:15.319 --> 01:42:19.199 all kinds of different results. But you know, the Democrats 1838 01:42:19.199 --> 01:42:22.560 are going nuts because they're saying this tariffs are attacks 1839 01:42:22.640 --> 01:42:25.560 on the consumer in America and it's going to cost 1840 01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:29.520 us even more to buy eggs and gas and at 1841 01:42:29.560 --> 01:42:31.760 all your i mean your comments on that. 1842 01:42:32.680 --> 01:42:35.520 Okay, Well, first of all, these are comments from political 1843 01:42:35.520 --> 01:42:38.439 operatives who exist to do one thing and one thing only, 1844 01:42:38.479 --> 01:42:42.279 and that is belittle and you know, make nonsensical the 1845 01:42:42.319 --> 01:42:45.000 thoughts of the opposition in this case Trump and his 1846 01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:48.000 and his policies and his supporters as well. So they're 1847 01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:51.039 out there like Chuck Schumer, he's going to be laughing 1848 01:42:51.079 --> 01:42:53.239 about how haha, your corona's going to. 1849 01:42:53.239 --> 01:42:54.399 Cost more money, ha ha. 1850 01:42:54.960 --> 01:42:57.479 Avocados are going to cost more money, ha ha. Your 1851 01:42:57.520 --> 01:42:58.560 super Bowl party. 1852 01:42:58.399 --> 01:42:59.600 Is going to be so stupid ha ha. 1853 01:42:59.800 --> 01:42:59.920 Lou. 1854 01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:02.800 That's that's you know, that's what's going on. You almost 1855 01:43:02.960 --> 01:43:04.800 see it in their face. They're gonna smirk when they 1856 01:43:04.880 --> 01:43:07.760 when they're telling you that, you say, it's it's sophomorek really, 1857 01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:11.000 and it's irrelevant because guess what. The tariffs on Mexico, 1858 01:43:11.079 --> 01:43:13.560 the TAFT threat has already been removed, so your corona 1859 01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:15.520 and your avocado is not going to cost more money. 1860 01:43:15.520 --> 01:43:16.000 And let's not. 1861 01:43:15.920 --> 01:43:19.279 Forget that California also has avocados, and we also make 1862 01:43:19.359 --> 01:43:20.119 beer in this country. 1863 01:43:20.119 --> 01:43:21.199 You don't need to get a corner if. 1864 01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:23.039 You don't want to. And you know, if it costs 1865 01:43:23.079 --> 01:43:25.199 twenty cents more than hey, if you can't afford that, 1866 01:43:25.239 --> 01:43:27.640 well maybe you should just be drinking milk or water. 1867 01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:30.079 Upper Midle I don't know. I don't know, Kenneth. Upper 1868 01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:34.479 Midwest States get sixty percent of their gas from Canada, 1869 01:43:35.079 --> 01:43:38.359 and that tariff there, that twenty five percent tariff on 1870 01:43:38.479 --> 01:43:42.199 Canada would definitely EFFI effect prices at the pump, which, 1871 01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:45.600 as you know, everybody knows, prices at the pump affect 1872 01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:48.479 the price of everything else because it has to be delivered. 1873 01:43:48.880 --> 01:43:53.159 So sure, absolutely absolutely. And now that tariff, if I 1874 01:43:53.199 --> 01:43:55.680 remember correctly, was it was going to be a ten 1875 01:43:55.720 --> 01:43:58.520 percent tariff. But let me say something that's very important 1876 01:43:58.560 --> 01:44:01.239 here that a lot of people don't understand. It's very important. 1877 01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:06.439 The tariff on Trump okay, the tasks on Mexico and 1878 01:44:06.520 --> 01:44:09.479 Canada okay, and the ten percent additional tasks on China. 1879 01:44:09.840 --> 01:44:13.560 These were what I called the help of brother out terriffs, right, 1880 01:44:13.640 --> 01:44:17.800 These are tariff threats that are designed to exact concessions 1881 01:44:17.800 --> 01:44:21.560 from another country, and the concession was we are putting 1882 01:44:21.560 --> 01:44:24.079 these tariffs. We're using these emergency tariffs because we have 1883 01:44:24.119 --> 01:44:27.479 a national security issue. We have a border crisis at 1884 01:44:27.640 --> 01:44:30.359 most of the southern border, but growing in the northern border, 1885 01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:32.680 and we have a fatanel crisis that has turned iconic 1886 01:44:32.720 --> 01:44:35.720 American cities, parts of iconic American cities like San Francisco 1887 01:44:35.800 --> 01:44:40.319 and Philly into sci fi dystopias. If you guys are 1888 01:44:40.319 --> 01:44:42.239 not willing to help us fight this, if you're not 1889 01:44:42.279 --> 01:44:45.279 willing to help us, because the previous government didn't care 1890 01:44:45.279 --> 01:44:47.159 about it, but we do. And if you're not willing 1891 01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:49.119 to help us, We're going to hit you with these tariffs. 1892 01:44:50.039 --> 01:44:50.560 That's it. 1893 01:44:50.840 --> 01:44:53.640 Yeah, Okay, So all Mexico and Can't has to do 1894 01:44:53.680 --> 01:44:55.920 is say we are willing to help you. And we 1895 01:44:56.039 --> 01:44:59.000 have seen because of meetings between the two sides, at 1896 01:44:59.079 --> 01:45:02.760 least between Mexico the United States, already that Claudia Shinebaum, 1897 01:45:02.840 --> 01:45:05.479 the President of Mexico, has said we will help you. 1898 01:45:05.760 --> 01:45:07.800 And it makes sense that she would say that because 1899 01:45:07.960 --> 01:45:12.399 Claudia Shinbaum did exactly what the previous government wanted her 1900 01:45:12.720 --> 01:45:16.279 or wanted Amlo, you know, overdoor. The previous government wanted 1901 01:45:16.520 --> 01:45:19.880 them to do, which was, let those caravans sail in, 1902 01:45:20.600 --> 01:45:24.000 Let the people rattle the cages and rattle the fences 1903 01:45:24.039 --> 01:45:27.600 at the border and barge in through customs, Let the 1904 01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:30.159 customs Asians just sit there like the Keystone cops, and 1905 01:45:30.199 --> 01:45:32.439 put them on a bus to go to the Roosevelt 1906 01:45:32.439 --> 01:45:34.880 Hotel in New York City so they could go do 1907 01:45:34.960 --> 01:45:37.359 whatever it is they're going to do, like it's Black Friday, 1908 01:45:37.520 --> 01:45:39.560 the day after Thanksgiving and they're shopping for you know, 1909 01:45:39.600 --> 01:45:43.039 a big screen tell exactly. So Trump is saying we're 1910 01:45:43.079 --> 01:45:46.199 not going to do that anymore, and Mexico has said, okay. 1911 01:45:45.920 --> 01:45:46.720 We agree, we're not. 1912 01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:50.640 We're on your team. And because of that reason, Trump 1913 01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:54.000 has already put a pause on those tariffs. Traffs have 1914 01:45:54.079 --> 01:45:55.039 not even gone into. 1915 01:45:54.920 --> 01:45:59.479 Effect yet Canada a one month pause. He's supposed to. 1916 01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:02.720 He was to talk to Trudeau a second time today. 1917 01:46:02.800 --> 01:46:05.359 I know he spoke with him earlier in the day, 1918 01:46:06.079 --> 01:46:09.520 and I don't think the situation in Canada will be 1919 01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:14.720 as easy because we really don't know who the next 1920 01:46:14.760 --> 01:46:17.399 prime minister of that country is going to be Trudeau 1921 01:46:17.479 --> 01:46:19.920 was on his way out. He's already announced he's stepping down. 1922 01:46:20.399 --> 01:46:22.399 So you're not going to be dealing with Trudeau. You 1923 01:46:22.479 --> 01:46:25.800 might be dealing with a friendlier prime minister in Canada 1924 01:46:25.880 --> 01:46:29.319 because there is a large conservative movement in that country 1925 01:46:29.399 --> 01:46:31.520 right now. 1926 01:46:31.560 --> 01:46:34.079 Correct Or the worst case scenario, you could be dealing 1927 01:46:34.079 --> 01:46:37.640 with Christia Freeland, who would be She's a Davos girl. 1928 01:46:37.760 --> 01:46:41.520 She would be terrible for the Trump administration. The New 1929 01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:43.520 York Times would love her. They would see her as 1930 01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:44.800 the president of the Americas. 1931 01:46:44.840 --> 01:46:46.600 Actually so, but we. 1932 01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:49.439 Do not know. So Again, I want to just say 1933 01:46:49.479 --> 01:46:51.840 to your listeners, is that the most important thing to 1934 01:46:51.920 --> 01:46:55.680 understand what Trump with tariffs is this what we saw 1935 01:46:55.720 --> 01:46:58.720 with Columbia, with Mexico and with Canada. This is a 1936 01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:02.039 threat to exact conceps. If I'm asking you to do something, 1937 01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:03.920 help a brother out. If I'm asking to help me 1938 01:47:03.960 --> 01:47:06.439 out and you don't do it, okay, I'm gonna punish 1939 01:47:06.479 --> 01:47:08.840 you because this is this is just not right. If 1940 01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:11.840 you do do it, the punishment is removed, and then 1941 01:47:11.880 --> 01:47:14.439 the other tasks, as you auted to earlier, would be 1942 01:47:14.479 --> 01:47:16.800 what's called the revenue taft to collect revenues. You could 1943 01:47:16.840 --> 01:47:19.199 cut taxes in the United States, especially the Tax Cutting 1944 01:47:19.239 --> 01:47:21.880 Jobs Act, which expires next year or maybe even the 1945 01:47:21.960 --> 01:47:25.159 end of this year. Or to punish countries and sectors 1946 01:47:25.520 --> 01:47:28.680 that overproduce and dump product in the United States, as 1947 01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:30.319 in the case in China or as a case in 1948 01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:33.159 Global Steel, for example, you would go after those sectors. 1949 01:47:33.239 --> 01:47:35.439 So that's that's Those are the three prong strategy approach 1950 01:47:35.439 --> 01:47:35.720 of Trump. 1951 01:47:35.760 --> 01:47:36.720 With Terras, We're. 1952 01:47:36.520 --> 01:47:39.319 Talking with Kenneth Proposa on the Night Camp and ken 1953 01:47:39.319 --> 01:47:42.079 I'm gonna take a just a quick break and we'll 1954 01:47:42.079 --> 01:47:44.359 come back and finish up, because I'm gonna hit you 1955 01:47:44.399 --> 01:47:46.199 with some stuff that I just heard today on the 1956 01:47:46.199 --> 01:47:50.760 news about the h the green News scam and another 1957 01:47:51.239 --> 01:47:56.399 another another domino just fell today. Uh it's the nightcap 1958 01:47:56.520 --> 01:48:00.720 on seven hundred w lws stick around today. And I 1959 01:48:00.760 --> 01:48:04.000 can't remember the name of the company that got all 1960 01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:08.600 of the tax breaks and the grants from yours and 1961 01:48:08.680 --> 01:48:12.159 my tax money during the Obama era, all in the 1962 01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:16.039 way of sustainable green energy, you know, when the push 1963 01:48:16.119 --> 01:48:18.920 really really started. But it reminded me so much of 1964 01:48:18.960 --> 01:48:24.000 another Obama era boondoggle that was Celindra, where he granted 1965 01:48:24.279 --> 01:48:27.239 half a billion dollars to this company, which of course 1966 01:48:27.880 --> 01:48:31.960 eventually ran out of money and went bankrupt, leaving all 1967 01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:34.800 of us on the hook for that half billion. You 1968 01:48:34.840 --> 01:48:36.720 wonder how you get to You wonder how you get 1969 01:48:36.720 --> 01:48:39.720 to thirty six trillion. It's a half billion at a time. 1970 01:48:40.960 --> 01:48:44.159 And that's what's been going on. Well, this new they 1971 01:48:44.159 --> 01:48:48.760 had a big mirror. What it was was data. These 1972 01:48:48.880 --> 01:48:52.279 mirrors not solar panels, but mirrors installed in the Mojave 1973 01:48:52.479 --> 01:48:56.680 Desert in California that supposedly was going to be a 1974 01:48:56.920 --> 01:49:01.720 boon for energy producing and you know, more efficient and 1975 01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:08.119 economically friendly, and Californians were made to buy their energy 1976 01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:11.960 by the state, made to buy their energy from this company, 1977 01:49:12.239 --> 01:49:14.600 and it was five times higher than they were paying 1978 01:49:14.640 --> 01:49:18.239 before for their electricity. They had giant mirrors out in 1979 01:49:18.239 --> 01:49:22.760 the desert that would they would retain the sunlight and 1980 01:49:22.800 --> 01:49:26.800 shoot it to towers that boiled water and produced electricity. 1981 01:49:27.399 --> 01:49:31.399 Was that they called it to a bird killer, just 1982 01:49:31.520 --> 01:49:34.800 like wind farms. It was a bird killer because the 1983 01:49:34.840 --> 01:49:37.600 sun that the heat coming off these mirrors from the 1984 01:49:37.640 --> 01:49:42.199 direct sunlight as birds flew over, was just incinerating them 1985 01:49:42.279 --> 01:49:46.439 in the air well apparently this company that was doing 1986 01:49:46.479 --> 01:49:51.199 this has said that they're shutting down and they just 1987 01:49:51.239 --> 01:49:54.920 can't make any money and they're losing money, of course, 1988 01:49:55.159 --> 01:49:58.039 even though they were the golden ticket to a new 1989 01:49:58.119 --> 01:50:05.079 age and energy another Obama era bust. So any comments 1990 01:50:05.159 --> 01:50:08.479 on that and situations like that can wow. 1991 01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:10.760 Yes, I did not hear about that, and I wish 1992 01:50:10.840 --> 01:50:12.920 I did it because I have a comment, a better comment, 1993 01:50:12.960 --> 01:50:13.119 But I. 1994 01:50:13.119 --> 01:50:14.680 Could tell you something from a bigger picture. 1995 01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:18.800 So let's say you're Obama and I don't remember the 1996 01:50:18.800 --> 01:50:21.159 cylinder story too much, but you're giving a billion dollars 1997 01:50:21.199 --> 01:50:23.479 a year to Solindra at this company to make solar 1998 01:50:23.520 --> 01:50:26.159 panels and solar right, Yeah, that's what you're going to do. 1999 01:50:26.359 --> 01:50:29.600 You could because you want American solar. Okay, that's that's 2000 01:50:29.600 --> 01:50:30.119 a good idea. 2001 01:50:30.119 --> 01:50:31.479 You want American made solar. 2002 01:50:31.560 --> 01:50:34.399 Okay, Fine, we're gonna help you out, but you don't 2003 01:50:34.439 --> 01:50:39.039 put tariffs on anything. So you forget that most of 2004 01:50:39.079 --> 01:50:41.880 the solar supply chain and most of your solar competitors 2005 01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:45.640 are in China, and they are just going to produce 2006 01:50:46.039 --> 01:50:48.600 so many solar panels and solar cells and these things. 2007 01:50:48.640 --> 01:50:49.119 It's like a. 2008 01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:52.079 Global commodity like like soybeans, that they're going to drive 2009 01:50:52.159 --> 01:50:55.720 the price down. So if you're a big utility company, 2010 01:50:56.039 --> 01:50:59.479 right like let's say, however, your big utility provider is 2011 01:50:59.560 --> 01:51:02.119 in a in your neck of the woods, we build 2012 01:51:02.119 --> 01:51:02.680 a solar farm. 2013 01:51:02.720 --> 01:51:04.960 Yeah, we have Duke Energy in this area. 2014 01:51:05.039 --> 01:51:06.960 Yeah, so do Duke says we're gonna build a solar 2015 01:51:06.960 --> 01:51:08.319 farm because the government's gonna. 2016 01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:08.520 Help us out. 2017 01:51:08.560 --> 01:51:11.479 Well, I could buy these solar panels from Solindra for 2018 01:51:11.640 --> 01:51:14.239 five dollars, but I could buy these from. 2019 01:51:14.079 --> 01:51:15.319 Asia for a dollar. 2020 01:51:16.039 --> 01:51:19.079 What do you think Duke Energy is gonna do? So 2021 01:51:19.239 --> 01:51:23.239 you cannot have a situation where you're subsidizing a company 2022 01:51:23.279 --> 01:51:25.760 like Solindro or x y z Cord that's making solar 2023 01:51:25.920 --> 01:51:29.239 and you're not protecting that market from your main competitor 2024 01:51:29.520 --> 01:51:31.319 who's gonna underprice. 2025 01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:32.000 You all day long. 2026 01:51:32.560 --> 01:51:35.079 So the thing with the thing what we saw with 2027 01:51:35.159 --> 01:51:37.960 the Inflation Reduction Act, for example, which is which is interesting, 2028 01:51:38.079 --> 01:51:42.079 was another attempt to do what Obama tried to do. 2029 01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:44.760 We're gonna give tax incentives to companies that produce soling. 2030 01:51:44.840 --> 01:51:47.000 I think because we don't want fossil fuels, we want 2031 01:51:47.000 --> 01:51:50.279 to go solar, and we want American made solar. Well, 2032 01:51:50.319 --> 01:51:53.680 the interesting thing with the Inflation Reduction Act and and 2033 01:51:53.680 --> 01:51:59.039 and UH insensitivizing domestic solar is that again mostly all 2034 01:51:59.039 --> 01:52:01.319 the solar produces in the world are Chinese. So the 2035 01:52:01.399 --> 01:52:03.399 Chinese is saying, Okay, we're gonna avoid those, you know, 2036 01:52:03.439 --> 01:52:05.439 some of these solo tafts, so we're gonna move to 2037 01:52:05.479 --> 01:52:08.119 the United States. Then we're gonna make solar factors. And 2038 01:52:08.199 --> 01:52:08.439 I state. 2039 01:52:08.560 --> 01:52:10.880 So a lot of the Inflation of Reduction Act. 2040 01:52:11.119 --> 01:52:13.840 Tax incentives which you get a tax break for producing 2041 01:52:13.920 --> 01:52:15.960 for making solar. Right, so you made one thousand dollars 2042 01:52:15.960 --> 01:52:18.119 worth of solar, you can write thousand dollars off your taxes. 2043 01:52:18.199 --> 01:52:20.479 Let's say that's the simplest terms of explaining it to 2044 01:52:20.479 --> 01:52:23.760 you to your listeners. A lot of the companies who 2045 01:52:23.760 --> 01:52:27.680 are benefiting from the Inflation and Reduction Act, oddly enough, 2046 01:52:27.720 --> 01:52:31.640 well not oddly enough, other Chinese solar companies that come 2047 01:52:31.680 --> 01:52:35.760 in here. So it's it's a crazy story. It's a 2048 01:52:36.479 --> 01:52:40.039 mixed up policy with the energy policy that force people 2049 01:52:40.079 --> 01:52:44.479 into renewables when it's driving up energy costs and you 2050 01:52:44.560 --> 01:52:47.560 are not doing as much as you can to block 2051 01:52:48.600 --> 01:52:51.880 you know, uh, the entrance of lower priced Chinese solar. 2052 01:52:52.039 --> 01:52:53.760 If you want to have a domestic sol it would 2053 01:52:53.760 --> 01:52:57.720 be like us saying, okay, we love oil or we 2054 01:52:57.760 --> 01:52:59.640 don't like oil because we don't like O pack. But 2055 01:52:59.640 --> 01:53:02.920 at least OPEK is you know, six seven nations, right, Okay, 2056 01:53:03.439 --> 01:53:05.319 But now you're saying, we're not going to do OPEC. 2057 01:53:05.319 --> 01:53:07.239 We're not gonna do oil and gas anymore, We're just 2058 01:53:07.279 --> 01:53:08.119 going to do solar. 2059 01:53:08.399 --> 01:53:09.680 But solar is one nation. 2060 01:53:09.800 --> 01:53:12.319 It's China, and China dominates the entire solar market. So 2061 01:53:12.439 --> 01:53:15.560 if you want to build an American solar American solar companies, 2062 01:53:16.359 --> 01:53:19.159 you have to come up with some sort of protective measures, 2063 01:53:19.159 --> 01:53:22.119 including things like tax incentives. But you have to combine 2064 01:53:22.119 --> 01:53:23.760 the two. Otherwise you're want to end up with a 2065 01:53:23.760 --> 01:53:26.279 solindro because they're just not going to be able to compete. 2066 01:53:26.279 --> 01:53:28.039 They're not gonna make ends meet because the ultimate buyer, 2067 01:53:28.079 --> 01:53:29.560 like a DO Energy's going to say, I could buy 2068 01:53:29.560 --> 01:53:30.960 from China for half the price, I'm not going to 2069 01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:31.399 buy from you. 2070 01:53:31.920 --> 01:53:34.560 Yeah. Well, Kenneth, this is the whole thing. And the 2071 01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:37.760 problem with solar and wind is that sometimes the sun 2072 01:53:37.800 --> 01:53:41.479 doesn't shine, sometimes the wind doesn't blow, that oil and 2073 01:53:41.479 --> 01:53:44.520 that natural gas is in the ground, it is ready, 2074 01:53:44.520 --> 01:53:47.399 it is ripe for the picking. Donald Trump insists he 2075 01:53:47.479 --> 01:53:51.199 was going to do everything he could to drill baby drill, 2076 01:53:51.359 --> 01:53:55.000 frack baby frack and get us back on track as 2077 01:53:55.039 --> 01:53:58.239 the dominant energy leader in the world again. We won't 2078 01:53:58.279 --> 01:54:02.880 need to worry about OPEK. Really seriously, we have enough 2079 01:54:03.479 --> 01:54:10.239 natural resources in this country. And it's clean energy without 2080 01:54:10.399 --> 01:54:15.600 being you know, green energy. It's clean energy because the 2081 01:54:15.600 --> 01:54:21.560 technologies come so far, especially liquid natural gas, that we 2082 01:54:21.600 --> 01:54:24.359 don't we really don't have to rely on Canada or 2083 01:54:24.560 --> 01:54:28.920 Venezuela or Opex Saudi Arabia at all if we just 2084 01:54:29.159 --> 01:54:33.520 untaped the wealth of resources we have in this country. 2085 01:54:33.560 --> 01:54:36.039 And that's what Donald Trump is targeting to do. 2086 01:54:37.960 --> 01:54:40.840 Well, yes, and exactly. And the more supply you have 2087 01:54:40.920 --> 01:54:43.720 in the United States as well, that sort of impacts 2088 01:54:43.800 --> 01:54:48.039 the global oil pasture. Unfortunately, oil is a global commodity, right, 2089 01:54:48.079 --> 01:54:50.840 so we produce too much oil. That's the problem. If 2090 01:54:50.880 --> 01:54:54.680 America produces too much oil, then unless the Saudis or 2091 01:54:54.680 --> 01:54:56.920 the Iraqis decide, or the Venezuela decides, they're going to 2092 01:54:56.920 --> 01:54:59.720 produce less than the soil than the oil price falls, 2093 01:54:59.760 --> 01:55:01.560 which is great for you and I at the gas pump. 2094 01:55:01.680 --> 01:55:03.359 But then for the big oil company say hey, look 2095 01:55:03.399 --> 01:55:05.399 I can't have twenty dollars barrel oil. I'm not going 2096 01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:08.279 to make any money. Your everything sort of goes in balance. 2097 01:55:08.319 --> 01:55:10.680 You know, you got you got to play that game 2098 01:55:10.680 --> 01:55:15.159 of balancing it just right. But yeah, more American produced 2099 01:55:15.359 --> 01:55:18.960 energy I think would be welcomed by most people in 2100 01:55:18.960 --> 01:55:20.000 this country. 2101 01:55:19.680 --> 01:55:24.800 Kenneth, absolutely, and less less you know, imported solar or 2102 01:55:25.279 --> 01:55:27.880 imported from your wind. And again, if you want to 2103 01:55:27.920 --> 01:55:29.680 have solar and wind, that's fine, I think. So if 2104 01:55:29.680 --> 01:55:31.399 you had solar on your house and a big Tesla 2105 01:55:31.439 --> 01:55:33.399 batter in your basement, you could electrify your house with 2106 01:55:33.520 --> 01:55:36.199 solar from your rooftop. Then that might be when you 2107 01:55:36.279 --> 01:55:39.399 become an independent prow producer yourself, that might be a great, 2108 01:55:39.720 --> 01:55:42.239 a great solution. But when it's like a big solar 2109 01:55:42.279 --> 01:55:45.800 farm taking up one hundred acres of former farmland down 2110 01:55:46.039 --> 01:55:49.279 for my house, which actually is the thing, and wind 2111 01:55:49.279 --> 01:55:53.319 turbines on the horizon line of my beach by the dozens, 2112 01:55:53.359 --> 01:55:57.239 which is actually a thing now, and my energy bill 2113 01:55:57.279 --> 01:55:59.680 has gone my electric bill has gone up thirty three percent, 2114 01:55:59.680 --> 01:56:02.640 which is also a thing because Matthewsts decided they're going 2115 01:56:02.720 --> 01:56:05.439 to mandate solar and win. Sixty percent of your electricity 2116 01:56:05.439 --> 01:56:08.359 have to come from that tenders and no one supports that. 2117 01:56:09.039 --> 01:56:12.119 Well, it might be a good time to move, Kenneth. 2118 01:56:12.159 --> 01:56:14.520 Thank you so much for your time. Brother, as al 2119 01:56:14.680 --> 01:56:18.800 was Kenneth reposa on the nightcap. As we close things out, 2120 01:56:19.239 --> 01:56:23.239 how about our star spangled banner to honor America. We'll 2121 01:56:23.239 --> 01:56:25.800 do that now on seven hundred WLW