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get out tell the hotline. Welcome in, my good friend.

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He's an entrepreneur, obviously co founder president of Vivid. He's

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also been a part of the OI athletics for a

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long time. He's part of the athletic director circle both

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at BYU and for UVU Basketball. Welcome in, Keith Now

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listen to the show Keith, How the heck are you?

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And also former co host. He has coast with me

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a few times on the show, Keith, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Buddy?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 2: Then, how are you doing fantastic? I appreciate you spending

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some time with me. I know you're spending some time

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with your wonderful daughter right now as a girl dad,

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so I appreciate you spend a little bit of time

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with us. Look, hey, the university, if you broke this

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this I don't know what you'd call it, maybe private

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equity ceiling here. Many people had flirted with private equity.

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Many athletic departments have evaluated allowing some sort of influx

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of cast coming in and outsourcing or rather biprecating their

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university their athletic department and creating a for profit entity

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and allowing these private investment, these private equity firms to

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come in and buy portions of their athletic department.

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Speaker 3: But Utah decided to go forth with it.

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Speaker 2: Was that a surprise to you and give me kind

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of like your overall view of private equity and sports

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your opinion.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, and this is just my opinion, right,

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but I think Utah's in Utah's in a difficult spot.

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And if you remember this last legislature, there was a

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lot of cuts to higher education, and the University of

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Utah is the largest benefactor of money from the legislature

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and they got a big cut. So right now, the

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kind of like the table stakes in college sports, especially

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at the powerpoard level, is are you going to have

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a full reb share? Right If you don't have a

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full rev share, it's like you're not even in the game.

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And you saw that in Kelowney's negotiation. It was, Hey,

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we're going to have a full reb share and we're

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going to have an IL on top of it. And

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so I'm sure that the people there at the University

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of Utah sitting there saying, hey, we're getting all this

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funding cut, right, We're going to have to we're cutting

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all these you know programs out there, and then we're

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going to go ask for more money for athletics. And

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so I think they're in a situation there where they

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were like, we have to do something different. And you know,

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my experience with private equity is they don't really take

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a lot of chances. They kind of understand what they're

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getting into. And you remember Peter Pilling at BYU. He

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came into BYU through IMG, and IMG had this model

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back then that hey, we can do marketing for you

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better than you can and you're not going to have

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all the expenses of this marketing, right, so you don't

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have to have a marketing department. You hire us, will

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pay you a million dollars for that, right, and once

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we've recouped a couple of million dollars, then we'll share

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with you going forward. And they were very successful doing that,

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and then the universities realized, Hey, there's a lot more

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money out here for us to go and get. And

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so I think that this is just kind of a

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little bit of a twist on that. And when I

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you know, I've read the same articles you've read. No

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one really knows exactly what's going on, but it seems

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to me what they did was they went and took

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the revenue generating assets within the University of Utah, which

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are ticket sales, sponsorships, events, you know, any marketing collateral

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that they can go out there and sell, and it

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looks like even fundraising. And they basically said, we're going

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to take these assets and we're going to put them

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in this new entity, and that new entity is going

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to be funded by this outro capital and we're going

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to get a piece of that capital. And I'm betting

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that they're going to use that piece of cap to

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right now make it so they have a full rep

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share and also to probably go and invest money in

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the assets there can they can actually produce revenue in

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the NFL, it's all about new stadiums and luxury boxes

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and all that type of stuff. I'm sure it's going

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to be the same thing here and have it done

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with people that have a for profit motive, like how

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do we grow this? How do we make more money?

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And within universities, it's usually not that type of a person, right,

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they won't work at a university. And so to me,

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that's what's happened here. And the bet that the University

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of Utah is making is that these people can grow

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this faster than they could and that the money that

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the private equity cas you know, so, so if it's

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worth two hundred million dollars today, let's just say that

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in five to seven years, it'll be worth six or

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seven hundred million dollars and that will only be because

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the revenue is so much greater. But to me, this

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is more about how do we how do we get

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capital that we can no longer get from the legislature,

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and how do we make sure that we can you know,

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fund a full rep share because right now, if you

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can't fund the full REP share, good good luck and recruiting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what can we take away from the five hundred

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million dollar amount? If we pull up US Department of

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Education numbers? Now I don't know how accurate these p

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and ls are from the universities that they distribute to

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the university or to the US Department of Education.

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Speaker 3: But let's say, like the.

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Speaker 2: Athletic department of the University of Utah, with all their

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student fees, their TV money, all those things that you

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just mentioned, the profitable elements of the athletic department comes

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up to like one hundred.

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Speaker 3: And fifty million, let's say.

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Speaker 2: And that may be higher than what it actually is,

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because I think BYU in twenty twenty three did about

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one thirty with out having the TV money that Utah

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has been benefiting of for over the last thirteen years.

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actually generate. And that's not obviously probably because we all

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know that these athletic.

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Speaker 3: Departments run in the red.

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Speaker 2: So you take the five hundred million dollars, you say, Okay,

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well they they in twenty twenty three they did one

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hundred and fifty million. What do we make of that? Like,

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when you see those numbers, what do you think.

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Speaker 4: About Well, first of all, I mean, p I don't

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believe that they went and put five hundred million dollars

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into a capital investment of five hundred million dollars on

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one hundred and fifty million dollars revenue, right, and that

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they're a minority partner. That makes sense? Like that That

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math doesn't make sense to me, is right?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: Okay? So and some private odd about that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, private equity will make sense. Okay. And so if

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you went and said, hey, we're going to have like

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this entity, Okay, let's say let's say they have one

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hundred and fifty million dollars in revenue, They're going to

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have limited expenses, right because they don't have to pay

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for anything other than the salaries and costs to make

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that money. This money, you know, their P and L

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is only going to be people that are out there

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selling sponsorships, raising money, managing the tickets. Right, They're not

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going to have to do They're not going to have

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to pay for the athletic department. People who think that

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somehow this is going to come in and they're going

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to cover all the costs of that athletic department. That's

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that's they're going to go out and grow that one

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hundred and fifty million dollars and no pride costs them.

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I see, I see that entity being very, very profitable,

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right because you're getting all of the revenue and none

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of the real costs that it costs to deliver that product.

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they came in and they bought you know, so we

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have easy math here. Let's just say they came in

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and bought twenty percent or twenty five percent. Let's say

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they've come in and bought twenty five percent of this thing,

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and they go out and this year they bring in

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one hundred and sixty million dollars of revenue, and the

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costs to generate that were twenty million dollars. So now

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there's one hundred and forty million dollars of revenue there.

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They're going to get twenty five percent of that, so

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that's thirty five million, and the university is going to

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get one hundred and five million. You say, well, why

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would the university do that? Well, the university does that

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because they got an influx to capital right now, you

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know that they can use. And then the goal is

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that in a couple of years now it's doing two

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hundred and fifty million dollars in revenue. Right now, two

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hundred and fifty million dollars in revenue will cost twenty million,

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So you got two hundred and thirty million and now

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twenty five you know, seventy five percent of that is

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more than they were getting before, and they still got

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the capital that came in. That's the only way this

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thing makes sense to me, because private equity. I've never

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seen a private equity deal that does not have some

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sort of a preferred return in it for the private

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equity people. And you know that sometimes that preferred return

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is in cash, sometimes it accumulates. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: And hopefully, like when we did private equity at visn't

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the guys the preferred didn't matter. They did so well

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on it that we all just split the profits according

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to the waterfall. So I don't Again, I view this

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as someone's trying to grow a revenue and they can't

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do it right. They don't have their fertise the people

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they don't have, and they also don't have the capital right,

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someone that someone brought them cash that shall solved their

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short term issues and and the hopes are in the

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and and they will grow it better than a university,

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where university's just they're inefficient, right, they're they're not for profit, right,

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they're they're they're they're they're bureaucratic and tenured and all

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that time. None of that works in the business world, right,

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like like like do you want do you want Todd

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Peterson running it or do you want some guy who's

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you know, never had the You want an aggressive guy

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like Todd in there getting it done so and and

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and I really do I think that I think that. Uh,

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I'm not saying I if I was in their shoes,

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given the constraints I think they have, which is the

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legislature's not giving us any more money. In fact, they're

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taking money away. Could you imagine being ramble up there

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saying we're gonna, hey, we just canceled these hundred programs

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over here that all of you professors like, and and

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you know, we took sixty million dollars out of the budget,

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and we're going to give twenty five million dollars to

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the football program. I mean, there'd be anarchy up there,

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so they can't go to their owner. Their donor base

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I mean, you always hear the names you always hear

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Speaker 5: Yea.

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Speaker 4: So it's not the young, vibrant donor base that BYU has.

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went to Utah but are now kind of BYU fans.

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think this is just the way they had to do

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it to compete because, in my opinion, if you don't

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have full revshare right now, that's gonna be tough in recruiting.

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Because BYU and Texas Tech, not only do they have

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full rev share, they have another fifteen million dollars on

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top of that, and that's a different.

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Speaker 3: Game, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: For those that you know, I was seeing some quotes about,

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you know, the this type of influx of cash from

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private equity is akin to a payday loan. How accurate

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is that? When Michigan board chairman Mark Burns, I don't

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know what his background is, says that that some of

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these these these proposals maybe from private equity firms or

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a can do a payday loan? Is an accurate depiction,

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is that a little bit off off beat.

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Speaker 4: I think that that's an in their accurate production because

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that means that they payday loans means you're taking advantage

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of someone, right. I think what they mean by private

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equity being payday loans or if they're trying to say

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that type of thing is number one. Usually they get

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really good returns like payday loans do. But I think

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it's it's uh because you think like you're going to

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give a lot away. Does that make sense? Like at

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the end of this, if they've grown this thing, and

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then the U has to know these like, oh, they

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only gave us so much money and now they you know,

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quadrupled this. And then the other thing that maybe is

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is is they have so much downside protection. Usually, like

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typically private equity deals go one of a few ways, right,

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Either it goes really well and everybody loves it, or

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they load them up with debt and the private equity

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guys might have made a little bit of money and

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then the company is saddled with debt and they go bankrupt.

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But typically the private equity guys kind of lock in

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and in this situation, they've it's probably a pretty nice

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little deal for them. They have limited downside and they

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have the ability to have quite a bit of upside.

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And if they make this work, what private equity really

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likes to do is go duplicate it like they love that.

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There'll be these these thesises out there or these you know,

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we're going to roll up you know there. For a

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while it was or we're going to roll up movie theaters,

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or we're going to roll up you know, car washes

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or what they Once someone does something, then they all

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hopp oh, I'm going to go do that because what

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they're good at doing is leveraging money. Their inventory is money, right,

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That's what they have and expertise. These guys will say,

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we have this expertise in athletics, in marketing and all that,

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and so that's what they that's what they have to sell.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: They don't have widgets, they don't have players, they don't

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have any of that type of stuff. What they have

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is money and and smart people, and that's what they're

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going to come in and and but this is going

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to have to grow. What I'd really love to see

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is what the downside protection is. There's rumors out there

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that there's a put call, which means that the private

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equity company can put it to the university you taught

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to buy it to buy their share out, or the

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university can call it and buy that. I'd love to

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see what the terms of that are because that would

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tell you really how much risk the private equity firm's taken.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, explain put call a little bit more, if you could,

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Forrest Keith, because I've heard the same thing, kind of

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this five to seventy year mark of a put call mechanism,

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and I don't think everyone understands that.

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Speaker 4: So it's just simply that you have a predetermined amount

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that you can as a private equity firm. You can

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go to him and say, I'm going to put this

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to you. You have to buy my share back. I'm

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going to put it to you, and this is the price.

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And usually the price is a formula, right, and both

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both sides have to be sophisticated. And then on the

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other side of the university Utah has a call which

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means we can go to you over a period of

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time and we can buy it back from you at

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a price. So typically the put price is less than

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the call price. That makes sense. So the private equity

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firm could put it to you. And I don't know

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if there's a guaranteed return in that, if it's below

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what they paid for, if it's a if it's a

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formula or whatever. But you would have to have something

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like that as a private equity firm, because private equity

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firms are funded by a fund, right, So they go

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raise a fund of money and then they invest that

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money from that fund and it's ill liquid for a while.

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But the idea is that five, seven, ten years they've

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sold all the assets of that fund and return the

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money to the investors in that fund. So private equity

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can't be tied up in things into perpetuity, and this

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would be something you'd be tied up, you know, if

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you're just a normal investor in an athletic department. It's

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not like there's a market out there. I mean, maybe

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you could go sell it to someone else, but I

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don't think a private equity firm would do that because

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it's not their capital.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: They have investors capital, and they have to they have to,

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you know, provide sound business decisions, and they just can't

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go out and just say, oh, we think this is

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cool and we're gonna go put this money in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Keith Nellison here on ESPN the Fan. He's a

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co founder and president of vivint and obviously entrepreneur. You're

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CEO of New Vee. You've been a part of the

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athletics world for a long time as well. So I

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really I've enjoyed this conversation because of your expertise too.

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I mean, Otro Capital is sports media and that's their specialty.

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It's operator driven apparently and led and so they have,

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as you mentioned, very smart people that have been in

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this world for a long time, and they have a

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lot of funds. They had to have vetted this and said, hey,

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there's this is an undervalued entity because it's been run

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inefficiently in a bloated, you know, archaic manner, and so

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they see an opportunity to make a lot of money

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off of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean they're they

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private equity. Those guys are paid to go get returns, right,

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that's their job, and they make a lot of money

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if they go and get big returns for people. And

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so yeah, I have no doubt. But that's why I

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think a lot of this money is going to be

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invested into I'm just going to call it collateral that

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they can sell. Right, the easiest thing to say is

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we're going to make We're going to go in and

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we're going to invest one hundred million dollars in new

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luxury boxes that we can then go and sell for

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all this money, or we're going to invest money in

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or through our network of marketing people, we can sell

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more you know, advertisements and this and that. Or maybe

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it's it's underbound. I mean when vividt.

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Speaker 5: First, I was gone.

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Speaker 4: But when they went and named the Delta Center, I

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thought it was crazy, right, the amount of money they

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were paying to do that, you know, the Viviant Smart

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Home Arena, I thought man ended up being tremendous. For

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vivit huge, huge, It gave them national brand recognition and

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for the guys out there knocking it, it was a

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big deal. So you know, there are they know what

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the collateral is, they know what the market is for that,

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and they must have seen that. But I think they

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also saw probably someone that needed this capital. If you

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don't go to private equity, if you don't need capital,

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or you know a lot of us go to private

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equity because we want to take some chips off the table, right,

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we don't want.

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Speaker 2: To knocking on the University of Utah's door. Utah went

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knocking on Otro's door, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: It might have been both, right, but they needed someone

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that needed the capital because they're sponsoring organization. Again, I

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think the legislature is a big deal of this. I

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think the amount of money that was pulled out of

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higher education, and I just don't think that that the

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President Randall can go and say, hey, hey again, we

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just cut all these great liberal arts things. The professors

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were going crazy, you know, there was all that DEI

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stuff with Trump and blah blah blah blah blah, and

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then we're going to go ask the legislature for all

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this money put to put into athletics. And I just

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think there's been.

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Speaker 3: Amusiizing everything else. So you're taking football out of the equation.

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Speaker 2: How how are these other these these not for profit

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school government university governed entity sports, right, Like, how how

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are they going to survive when you don't have the

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subsidization of a football revenue being split and waterfall down

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into those other other teams and sports.

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Speaker 4: You know, Ben, that's the big catch twenty two in

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the NCAA, right, is because the way they calculate things,

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you know, with Title nine and stuff. If you have football,

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you have to have all these other things, right, and

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you can't cut those other things that don't generate money

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unless you're cutting just men's programs, because then you're out

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of compliance with Title nine. Right. So so this is

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a this is and then now they got to come

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up with twenty million dollars, you know, or at least

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whatever the amount of money is they have to fund,

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you know. And I've had this conversation before, and I

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don't want your fans to get mad at me. And

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I'm a girl dad, So I'm saying this as a

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place the heart of it. But there are only two

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sports that matter in the revenue and the business of

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college athletics, and it's men's basketball and men's football. Everything

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else is you know, they are there on the coattails

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of that from a monetary perspective, and football is definitely

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but I mean, I mean, hell, who would have thought

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that Ohio State was running a thirty something million dollar deficit?

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I mean, you would think that that it must be

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just amazing. And you know, I think there is a

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difference in inn alumnized basis. I've been amazed and I

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believe it's the new president that he allows athletics to

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be a heart I'm talking about it b YU. He

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allows athletics to be a part of the fundraising. Now

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it used to not be, not even close. And I

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think that with NIL now being legal and all of that,

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the donor base was actually happy to do it right

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in the past there and there's been money in sports forever.

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I've been out on the recruiting trail with coaches, I've

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been to AA tournaments. Anyone who thinks that there's not

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money out there is just has their head in this end.

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Now it became legal and all of a sudden, BYU

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has plenty and uh and I just I just think

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that that that's and b YU always had to function profitably,

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you know what I mean, And so I think right

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now b YU has a huge advantage. They're a profit,

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profit centered business that has always operated that way, and

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now they can go out and tap these bigger markets.

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And and I think that you have I'm going to

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call them like dynamic donor bases. I put BYU in there,

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I'd probably put like Notre Dame in there, and then

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you have the Texas schools, which is just a whole

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different It's a whole whole different animal. Like, I've spent

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a lot of time in Texas. I do quarter horse racing.

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We breed in race and a lot of Texas people

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Texas money, and the money down there is just different.

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There are people that are worth hundreds of millions of dollars,

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aren't giving ten percent to their church, and they love

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the Texas tech Raiders. I mean, I had ten guys

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they're like, hey, I got a box for the game.

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You coming down? Like no, I'm going to be with

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my daughter, right, But the money in Texas is just stupid.

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And everybody's going to be trying to catch up with

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those three schools down there, I can promise you that.

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And they're gonna sell. They're going to sell part of

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their program to do it. They're going to sell their

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future revenues to try to keep up with this. You know,

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just wild wild West and those boys in Texas they're wildcatters, right,

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they're oil well drillers. They love the wild wild dress

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and risk, that's right, that's right. They take risk and

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they love it. And then some of those families they

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haven't even spent the money from the nineties. It just

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pumps out every day. Every day, it just comes out.

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Speaker 2: So generational impact. Ronald's in my area. He's getting me

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to go to break. But I have one last thought

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for you. Is there any possibility like in that discovery

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mode that a private equity firm such as Ultra Capital.

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I imagine this is a well respected firm in this in

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this industry. Maybe it's a new age, new era industry,

477
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that discovery.

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Speaker 3: That that auditing.

479
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Speaker 2: Like there's no way that a university could have like

480
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creative accounting to cook the books and fool you or

481
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something like that. Right about it's revenue generation and like

482
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it's top line revenue, right, Like, that's not that's an

483
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impossibility in all this correct.

484
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, especially if we're just talking about the

485
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revenue coming into athletic program right, it's cash, right, It's

486
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not it's not. Yeah, I couldn't see, you know, there's

487
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not like deferred revenue and all that type of crap.

488
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There isn't all of you know, I don't know how

489
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like luxury box leases and all that type of stuff work,

490
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But I think it's a pretty seasonal type of a business.

491
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Right you have your season tickets, you have your game

492
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day tickets, you have your revenue from from the you know,

493
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most of the media revenue comes through the conference, right,

494
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you have your Bowl games, you have your NCAA tournament.

495
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So most of that revenue is pretty easily seen. And

496
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I couldn't see much cooking of the books. I think

497
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it's mostly cash. I think it looks a lot more

498
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like you and mice checking account than it does a sophisticated,

499
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you know, SAFS based business that could be doing or

500
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as we hear all the time out there with these

501
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,920
AI companies, that that sounds a lot like, hey, you

502
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buy from me, I buy me and the money never shared.

503
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,119
I'm pretty sure that this is this is not that way,

504
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And in fact, they like those businesses. They like businesses

505
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:13,480
that are cash transparency, right, yeah, and it's cash. They're investors.

506
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I mean, at the end of the day, us as investors,

507
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,200
we'll get these things from private equity firms. You're up

508
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,440
twenty two percent. I'm like, well, it doesn't matter until

509
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the end. In the end, I gave you one thousand

510
00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:25,759
dollars and how much did you give me back at

511
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:27,799
the end, and how long was it out there? And

512
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that'll determine my return. So they like those businesses in

513
00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:33,880
private equity at all. At the end of the day,

514
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at some point in time has to turn into cash.

515
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Or the only time it's not cash is if it

516
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turns into public market stock. They invested in company, the

517
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company went public, and they distributed the shares to the

518
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to the investors. And usually even in that they sell

519
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the shares and distribute the money because they want their money.

520
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:56,640
They want every little dime they can get.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I never understood that the tech startup Balloon

522
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Pop propped up valuation.

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Speaker 3: See the one hundred billion dollar value. I'm like, man,

524
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where's what's going on.

525
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's venture capital. Yeah, venture capital is different than

526
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private capital. This private equity capital. They don't take that.

527
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They don't take that risk. They want those returns, but

528
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they don't take that.

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Speaker 5: That's safe, take that risk.

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Speaker 3: Keith love it.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you man, Thanks for spending some time in educating

532
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us on all these facets. We appreciate you. Thanks for

533
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hopping on. I'll catch up with against soon.

534
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Speaker 6: Brother, All right, take care, there you go.

535
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Speaker 3: That's Keith Nellison. Appreciate him. Former. He was a co

536
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founder and president of Vivid.

537
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Speaker 2: Also, he's part of the BAU Athletic Director Circle as

538
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well as VU Basketball Donor circle as well.

539
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Speaker 3: He's been in the finance and.

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Speaker 2: Entrepreneurship world the tech world here he was a former

541
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CEO and owner operator Believe of.

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Speaker 3: New v as well. So great insight, great knowledge.

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Speaker 2: He's been at those in those board meetings and was

544
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able to give us a lot of detail on this

545
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private equity deal at the University of Utah.

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history in my opinion, especially when you consider the totality

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of rushing yards, receiving yards, touchdowns, yards per carry and

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you look at the strength of schedule, what by Who's

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been up against this season, and it's truly a monumental season.

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working for your money. Let's talk about stats with the

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star of the show today. We got BYU running back

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RB one.

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Speaker 3: LJ. Martin on the line, LJ. How thatck are you? Buddy?

605
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Thanks for joining us.

606
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Speaker 5: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, always a blessing talking ball with you, LJ. Look,

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I know when you got to BYU, you probably had

609
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a vision of what you know, you wanted to accomplish,

610
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and what you've ultimately accomplished up to this up to

611
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this point has been tremendous. What did you envision for

612
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yourself from a productivity standpoint when you arrived in Provo?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I just I always had a dream

614
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of just you know, trying to be the best running

615
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back I can be, and you know, just giving myself

616
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,000
myself a shying of going to the NFL. So, you know,

617
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coming down to Provo, I just wanted to be the

618
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best player I could be. I didn't know what that

619
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was gonna entail or what it was going to turn

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out to be, but it's worked out pretty good so far,

621
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and I'm glad with what I've been able to do.

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Speaker 2: Man, you passed up a legendary Cougar this season. In

623
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,000
this last game versus Texas Tech, you passed up Luke

624
00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:50,680
Staley for total rushing yards in a season. You passed

625
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up Jamal Williams as well. From his two thousand and

626
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thirteen season, Jamal, I believe in twenty thirteen eight he

627
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had approximately, you know, right around that twelve hundred and

628
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thirteen hundred yard mark. What does it mean to be

629
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considered one of the great BYU running backs in BYU

630
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football history, surpassing the likes of Luke in a single

631
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season and Jamal in a single season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's amazing. I mean you I came in,

633
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you know, kind of like looking at those guys and

634
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you know, hoping to be like them and just to

635
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,039
be in the conversation with them, just to he would

636
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be mentioned like alongside their name. It's pretty awesome, man,

637
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It's just a blessing.

638
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Speaker 3: Well, you also passed up your coach. I don't know

639
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if you know this.

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Speaker 2: In two thousand and seven, Harvey Unga had two hundred

641
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and forty four carries and one two hundred and seventy

642
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,079
two yards. He also had thirteen rushing touchdowns in OH seven.

643
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He was our bell cow back back in my day

644
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over twenty essentially twenty years ago, you're sitting at just

645
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around thirteen hundred yards.

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Speaker 3: We have two hundred and seventeen.

647
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Speaker 2: So you had less carries two hundred and seventeen yards

648
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and you have eleven touchdowns. Now get you got to Eclipse,

649
00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:00,839
you need at least two more three more touchdowns to

650
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end the season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be a tough one, but it's pretty

652
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cool to be able to I'll do my coach. You know,

653
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he kind of taught me all this tricks. I guess

654
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that's a little hag, but you know it's cool. And

655
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you know, he always It's funny because when I first

656
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came in, he was like, yeah, you're gonna be good.

657
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You're gonna be really good. You're gonna better than me,

658
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you know, and I hear this stuff, and you know,

659
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you just kind of go about it. I didn't really

660
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believe it at the time. Then, you know, like just

661
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to have a season like I did and uh be

662
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you know, like pass him in rushing and stuff like that,

663
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it's pretty awesome. But it's not everything. You know, he's

664
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just trying to win the games and just trying to

665
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continue to be as great as I can be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. What type of impact have has Harvey had on you?

667
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Speaker 2: Has there been like a nugget some sort of teaching,

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a mentality that has given you a competitive advantage in

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order to surpass your your coach a little bit in

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that in that single season rushing total.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's done a lot for me. I mean,

672
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he he pretty much. I didn't know a whole lot

673
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of football. So when I first got out here, you know,

674
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I just knew when you get the ball, you got

675
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to score, you know, And you know, I was able

676
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to read some stuff, but he really took time to

677
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help me, like read defenses, understand what they're trying to

678
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do and how I'm how things are probably going to

679
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,519
play out. So I'm just being around them more and

680
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just learning learning the game through them. It's just helped

681
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me a lot. And you know, it just kind of

682
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opened my eyes and I feel like you really saw

683
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this year.

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Speaker 3: LJ.

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Speaker 2: Martin on the line that says, let's talk about stat segment. Currently, statistically,

686
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he's uh, he's got the seventh best single season single

687
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season as a running back or quarterback, and then in totality,

688
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he's top ten in rushing yards in BYU football history.

689
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So pretty impressive work, LJ. And it's it's awesome to

690
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see you know your progress not only as a as

691
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a runner, but as a receiver. You got targeted a

692
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,079
lot in that Texas Tech game. You got a lot

693
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of touches running the ball and then also receiving the ball.

694
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And I know that you skill set has always been

695
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:05,280
has been pretty diverse, but it's it's fun to watch

696
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,960
kind of that that whole package come together. Your pass pro,

697
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,519
your pass catching, off tackle inside the tackle box. What

698
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:14,280
does it mean to you to be an all purpose

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a complete back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it means a lot to me. You know,

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I just want to be a complete football player, you know,

702
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so that just comes to blocking, running routes, receiving, just

703
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:29,679
doing everything. So just be able to have the opportunity

704
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to have a coach a Roddy call plays for me,

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to be able to catch in the past game and

706
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running the ball and touch the ball as many times

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as I can. I mean, it's it's really awesome, man.

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You know, I've been able to make it the most

709
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of it so far.

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Speaker 2: How tough was that Texas Tech defensive front? Obviously you've

711
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:50,159
had a tremendous amount of success this season. Tech has

712
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built a little bit different. How does the Tech defensive

713
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,719
front compare to other defensive fronts that you faced over.

714
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Speaker 5: Your career, probably the best I've seen, you know, and

715
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,840
they're just really good. I mean, they're really active. They

716
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,400
got guys that can move up front, and I felt

717
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,639
like we did we did a pretty good job this

718
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,639
last time we played, and we did a decent job.

719
00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:16,639
But you know, they did make things harder for us.

720
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:20,480
You know, it was they got back there sometimes. You know,

721
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:22,880
it was a little bit more competitive in the fact

722
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,679
that they got us a couple of times, but we

723
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:28,880
were getting them too. Just you know, we couldn't. We

724
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,760
just weren't able to get them more than they got

725
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,599
us unfortunately that time. But you know, they were a

726
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:35,840
really good d line and you know a lot of

727
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,639
these guys are gonna play on Sunday, so shout out

728
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:39,360
to them.

729
00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:42,039
Speaker 2: Did you try to convince a Rod to give you

730
00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:45,599
a few more like wild cougar direct snaps going forward,

731
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,679
you know, as you as you finish off.

732
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:53,159
Speaker 5: This season, Yeah, I don't want to do a little

733
00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:56,760
bit more wildcat direct snaps, you know, just and for

734
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,480
him to allow me to throw the ball. That's was

735
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:00,519
something we've been trying to talk of out, you know,

736
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:04,159
because I did play quarterback in middle school in freshman

737
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,920
year of high school, so you're.

738
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: A point guard too, you know how to distribute that

739
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,760
that ball, that rock exactly.

740
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,559
Speaker 5: I was like, we could just go four words and

741
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,280
there's nothing there. I could just take off. So, you know,

742
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,400
I've been trying to convince him. So we'll see, we'll

743
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,800
see if we'll be able to get it done.

744
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:26,159
Speaker 2: But you know, keep fighting that good fight. It's okay

745
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:28,599
to get in the coaches here and let them know

746
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:31,480
you're you're confident and you can help. You can help

747
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:33,000
move the sticks and make place for him.

748
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,519
Speaker 3: We got LJ.

749
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: Martin on the L like Cougar Sports, ESPN the fan. Look,

750
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,719
this is a new era, right We're getting towards the

751
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,280
end of the year when transfer portal and n I

752
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:44,199
L and the bowl games and championship they all converge

753
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,559
right into one and it could be pretty stressful. How

754
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:50,840
have you been able to navigate the new nil world

755
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,400
with this new found resources? Uh, you know, newfound success.

756
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:57,239
It can be a little bit overwhelmed. Who have you

757
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,679
leaned on? How have you navigated the new nil world?

758
00:38:59,719 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: Else?

759
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I lean on my parents, you know, just listening

760
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:06,199
to my dad and my mom and just you know,

761
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,159
they kind of told me to not not make things

762
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:11,119
about money, you know, like, of course you want to

763
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:13,360
get what you deserve and stuff like that. But and

764
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,039
then I'll be all, you know, it's it's about like

765
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:19,199
what you want to accomplish, and for me, being in

766
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,480
the NFL, that's what I want to accomplish. So the

767
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:24,159
end result can't be can't just be money. And you know,

768
00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:26,360
I got to continue to work hard and just be

769
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,239
at the best place that develops me. And that's why

770
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,239
I've been at here at BYU for so long, because

771
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,559
they do a great job of developing players and just

772
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:36,079
making things easy and it's been real fun.

773
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: It can be a little bit overwhelming to have, you know,

774
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:42,559
newfound funds though, And it sounds like you've discussed it

775
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:46,239
with mom and dad and and uh and discuss Hey,

776
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,440
how do we want to navigate this.

777
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:48,639
Speaker 3: It's not all about money.

778
00:39:48,679 --> 00:39:52,599
Speaker 2: You want what's fair for you obviously, but uh, you know,

779
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:55,800
when you got this new money in your bank account,

780
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,000
how did you navigate that? Did you just put it?

781
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,880
You're putting it in savings? You just say, hey, my

782
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:01,400
and dad, what are you guys thinking we should do?

783
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:01,679
Speaker 3: With this.

784
00:40:03,679 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, we started investing a little bit, you know, we

785
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,880
just put it like in a S and P five

786
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,920
hundred fund, I believe. Yeah, and just did that for now,

787
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,880
you know, because I'm not I'm not too far into

788
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,760
that investing stuff. And my parents their work, they know

789
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:20,639
a little bit of stuff about investing, so we're not

790
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,679
too big into it. But we just did that for now,

791
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,719
and you know, just trying to save as much as

792
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,239
you can because I mean, you know, this is a

793
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,280
great opportunity to make some money and set you over

794
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:29,920
for the long run.

795
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, no doubt about it.

796
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: Let's welcome into the show, NFLPA short of my financial planner,

797
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,599
Blaine Anderson.

798
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Speaker 3: He's on the line as well.

799
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Speaker 2: Blaine, You've consulted with a lot of student athletes over

800
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,360
the years about how to invest in, where to invest?

801
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,920
What are some of the common questions that student athletes

802
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,199
pose to you in those kind of those consultative evaluations

803
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:54,960
of how to invest, where to invest, why to invest?

804
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:57,199
Speaker 4: Yeah?

805
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 6: Well, thanks man, it's the pleasure of being on and

806
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,159
listen into the conversation here with LJ. When it comes

807
00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:06,320
to some of those early steps, a lot of it

808
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,760
is just putting together a plan, being intentional and thinking

809
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,400
about tomorrow. I think it's neat to hear what LJ

810
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,000
had to say. As far as you know, it's not

811
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:18,920
all about money. We that have been in the business world,

812
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,679
that have worked know that it's a byproduct of good

813
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,800
hard work, but it is something that oftentimes is necessary

814
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,480
to help us get by, to provide opportunities for those

815
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:32,119
around us, and to certainly free up time. And so

816
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,039
one of the things we talk about most is just

817
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:38,400
planning for tomorrow, starting to understand the power of compound interest,

818
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,239
the importance of spending less than you make, and even

819
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,840
if you can sacrifice a little bit now that it

820
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,280
can provide tremendous long term benefits. And one of the

821
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,679
things that we emphasize a lot is we talk about

822
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:53,880
the difference between a let's say, a rich person versus

823
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:57,159
a wealthy person. And a rich person can work hard

824
00:41:57,199 --> 00:41:59,920
to make money. A wealthy person works hard to have

825
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,920
that money work for them, and so that's where we

826
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,639
want to get to and that's what we're trying to accomplish.

827
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:07,960
And then, of course, as you know, it's just combining

828
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:11,440
tax and investment and state planning and all those things

829
00:42:11,519 --> 00:42:15,239
under the certified financial Planning umbrella that put together a

830
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,159
comprehensive plan. So it's neat to work with younger folks,

831
00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:22,679
but people that are thinking about tomorrow and whether you

832
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,679
know the old saying the best time to invest was

833
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,400
twenty years ago, the next best time is now. And

834
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,599
so it's just applying many of the principles around finance

835
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:33,159
and investing, and these guys all do a great job

836
00:42:33,199 --> 00:42:35,280
of it. It's neat to see.

837
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,119
Speaker 3: You know, we got LJ.

838
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Speaker 2: Martin on the line as well as Blaine Anderson Banterwealth

839
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Batterwealth dot Com Blaine this season. When you watch LJ run,

840
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,880
when you've been watching them run and catch and do

841
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,280
his master his craft on the football field for BYU,

842
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,639
what stands out to you? How would you describe LJ

843
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,719
as a as a running back at BYU?

844
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: What do you like about his game?

845
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,159
Speaker 2: Do you have maybe a highlight of particular play that

846
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:01,599
you just just say you lean on You're like, man,

847
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:05,119
I'll remember that. That's like emblazing in my mind as

848
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:05,480
a fan.

849
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Speaker 5: Yeah, a few things.

850
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Speaker 6: First of all, I like even or LJ mentioned it

851
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,760
about just being a football player. That's what's cool. I think,

852
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,840
especially out of the running back position. That's what you

853
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,079
need as a football player. And even hearing you guys

854
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:25,159
talk about his relationship and mentorship that's come from Harvey.

855
00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:29,199
In knowing Harvey and as a friend, I know that

856
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,079
the greatest compliment you can give a coach or a

857
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:35,840
teacher is that they teach their students or their players

858
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,920
to go on and be better than they are or

859
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,360
than they were. And hearing Harvey say that early on

860
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,639
that LJ was going to be and is doing more

861
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:46,119
than he did, I think as a true compliment to Harvey.

862
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:48,840
They actually remind me a lot of each other with

863
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,760
their playing styles. I remember watching Harvey and he was

864
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,199
one of my favorite running backs to watch because of

865
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,280
his power style running. He always lowered the shoulder and

866
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,039
always fell forward. That's something that we've seen with LJ

867
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,519
when it comes to maybe even some plays. It must

868
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,360
have been that UCF game, that final game of the season,

869
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,039
where LJ just grinded play in and play out. I

870
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:15,679
think he was probably, at least what they were saying,

871
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,840
banged up a little bit, but he certainly didn't show

872
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,920
that on the field, And so that'll be something I'll

873
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,960
always remember about watching LJ and his style of play.

874
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that speaking of let's talk about stats, that

875
00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:32,239
was probably one of the best single game performances from

876
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,079
a running back or quarterback running the football in BYU

877
00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:39,440
football history. I put it as a top five performance

878
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,239
from a from a rushing output standpoint.

879
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:42,519
Speaker 3: LJ.

880
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: Let's rever back to you, like, what do you recall

881
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,400
that that UCF game, because I think, look, you look

882
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,800
at the opponent, you look at you know, the kind

883
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,280
of the situation. I also look at like the Cincinnati game,

884
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:54,840
Like I kind of look at that one as like

885
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,320
the LJ.

886
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: Martin game on the road where.

887
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: You kind of had to had to put it, put

888
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,599
them to be the team on your back a little bit.

889
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,280
What's been your favorite game, your single game performance that

890
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,960
you you lean on, bink, Hey, that was my favorite

891
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:07,440
game all.

892
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 5: Time right now, I'll probably say that since an Eddy one.

893
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:13,719
Just looking back at that, you know, it's pretty cool

894
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,400
just to be able to carry the ball that many times,

895
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,760
and you know, we kind of got into that four

896
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,800
mini mode and we were able to finish it off

897
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,320
with the touchdown, and you know, everyone knows we're gonna

898
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,960
run the ball. And though I was still able to

899
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,320
get pushed and they were creating holes and I was

900
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,119
able to run physical and still get yards. And you know,

901
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:31,119
that just shows like what we were able to do

902
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:34,400
as offense this year. And it's that was probably probably

903
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,400
my favorite one by far. And you know, just just

904
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,360
going out there having fun, just touching the ball that

905
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,800
many times, just playing football. I mean, it's it's that's

906
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,679
my that's my favorite game by far. I would say, yeah, it.

907
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: Might be of tyler ils year two thirty two carries

908
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,000
two hundred twenty two yards six point nine yards per carry,

909
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,039
two touchdowns. You had three receptions forty four yards and

910
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:57,719
then a handful of pass pro reps as well a

911
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,320
lot of contact that game. You took house or was

912
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,360
the body after that game?

913
00:46:03,039 --> 00:46:05,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was pretty tired. We were we were

914
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:07,159
coming back home from the flight. Started cramping on the

915
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:09,599
plane and uh, you know, so I had to get

916
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:11,119
some foods and you yeah, it was it was a

917
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,039
it was a struggle for a plane ride, but you

918
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:14,679
know it was.

919
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 3: It was fun.

920
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 5: I wouldn't want to play any other way, you know,

921
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:20,239
just I mean it's football, you know, just being able

922
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,119
to touch the ball that many times, just out there

923
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:25,159
having fun with the guys and yeah, you're just out

924
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:27,199
there with the guys and they're feeling it and you're

925
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,039
feeling it and we're just all out there having fun.

926
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:29,920
It was a really fun time.

927
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:32,679
Speaker 2: Have you had you know, apart from Harvey obviously being

928
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,599
a key mentor where his Jamal Williams come back, Tyler

929
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:38,199
as year. You know, these uh these running backs that

930
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,920
have had success in the NFL recently, have they you know,

931
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,800
mentored you at all? Have you have you developed a

932
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,960
relationship with those guys at all?

933
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:46,159
Speaker 4: Yeah?

934
00:46:46,199 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 5: I thought to Tyler someone when he first when I

935
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,519
first got out here, he kind of just him here

936
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:53,599
and hearing him talk about Harvey and what he thought

937
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:56,280
of him, you know, it kind of made me maybe

938
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,440
a believer and you know, wanted to come out here.

939
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:02,039
And then as well. Jamal well he came back up recently.

940
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,960
Uh so he probably he's been a lot around a

941
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,880
lot more this year and uh, you know, just talking

942
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,880
to him, he's always on this year. He's been on

943
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,559
the sideline a little bit, you know, just giving me

944
00:47:12,599 --> 00:47:14,880
tips and pointers. So he's been helping out a ton too.

945
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,480
So yeah, just those two guys and you know, they've

946
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,760
just been doing a great job and just kind of

947
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,400
giving me little tidbits and uh, just little pieces of

948
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,360
knowledge so I could be a better running back.

949
00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the what's the best words of advice you've

950
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gotten from Tyler or Jamal that stood out to you

951
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in this process over the last couple of years.

952
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Speaker 5: I would say, just being consistent in the work and

953
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,960
just enjoying it, you know, just enjoying your time, just

954
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,079
playing football, just making it fun, you know, because I

955
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:45,119
feel like now people try to make it the job.

956
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,239
You know, they try to make it where you get

957
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,639
money out of it. But you know, if you just

958
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:51,599
go out there and have fun with it and uh,

959
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,239
just enjoy yourself, like everything else will come, you know. Honestly,

960
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,119
that advice great advice.

961
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Speaker 3: H L J.

962
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Speaker 2: Martin here on ESPN the Fan, talking stats, talking his

963
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,400
his season. Now, you got a bowl game, the the

964
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Pop Tarts Bowl in ORLANDA. What's what's your mindset like

965
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,519
preparing for the bowl game? Do you plan on playing

966
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:16,800
in the bowl game for BYU?

967
00:48:18,039 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, still trying to get some stuff figured out, but yeah,

968
00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:24,679
I mean right now, you know, we just got to prepare.

969
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,440
We got to whoever's usually whoever's the most excited to

970
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,880
be there is going to be the one who wins,

971
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so you know, it's it's another opportunity to play another game,

972
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:34,559
get a twelfth win, So we're really excited. You know,

973
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,840
it's a blessing. I mean, I remember two years ago,

974
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,559
we didn't we weren't even in a bowl game. You know,

975
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:42,639
our season was done pretty quick. So you know, it's

976
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:44,320
just a blessing to even be in a bowl game

977
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,519
and just going out there having fun and making the

978
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:48,519
most out of it. It will be a lot of fun.

979
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

980
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 2: How special is it to have back to back eleven

981
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,400
and two seasons with an opportunity to get twelve wins

982
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,360
for you and your teammates?

983
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, that's amazing, especially after my first year here.

984
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,480
You know, he's just you know, you believe, but for

985
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,880
it to actually happen, it's like, it's pretty amazing. You know,

986
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,360
just to be able to be consistent two years in

987
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,239
a row and we have back to back scenes like that,

988
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,559
it means a lot, and you know, we just can't

989
00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:17,559
be happy with the result, but you know, they just

990
00:49:17,639 --> 00:49:20,719
kind of use this motivation, you know, and it'll give

991
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,840
the other guys motivation going in next year. You just

992
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,559
you know, wanted to wanting to sustain that that standard.

993
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, LJ. Martin ladies and gentlemen ology.

994
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 2: I know you're still kind of navigating figuring stuff out.

995
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,719
Let me let me put a theoretical out there. The

996
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,679
dream is to go to the NFL. And we all

997
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,760
know you're an NFL running back. There's been many that

998
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,559
have said, hey, he could. He's a top five running back,

999
00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:44,320
he's a top ten running back, he's a top three

1000
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,199
running back in college football. You're the Big twelve offensive

1001
00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:51,360
player of the year. What's going to go into maybe

1002
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,480
the decision to either take your talents in the NFL

1003
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,599
or to come back. And you know, let's say the donors, Hey,

1004
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:03,239
we want to you know, we want you to come back,

1005
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,440
and they're gonna be aggressive and trying to retain you,

1006
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:08,239
et cetera. What is that process gonna be like for

1007
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,440
you to maybe, you know, make the right decisions for

1008
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:11,239
you and your family.

1009
00:50:12,199 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of praying, but it's

1010
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,480
also just gonna be you know, I always just you know,

1011
00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:19,639
when you think of getting drafted to NFL, you always

1012
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:23,480
think of, you know, just don't you know, being in

1013
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:26,079
the Green room and you know, go into that first

1014
00:50:26,199 --> 00:50:28,559
round or like you know, just being there and you know,

1015
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:30,679
being an early tick. You know, so it kind of

1016
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,719
just depends when I land. So, like you know, I've

1017
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:38,599
been saying if I'm if I'm like, it just kind

1018
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:41,199
of depends where, yeah, I'm projected. You know, if I

1019
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,599
could go like day three, I mean, shoot, I might

1020
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:48,159
just you know, like just come back next year and

1021
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,199
you know and try to up my draft stock and

1022
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,079
try to get it as high as possible. But if

1023
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:55,280
it's pretty high like right now, and you know where

1024
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,480
it's like yeah, you could go day two for sure,

1025
00:50:57,519 --> 00:51:00,199
then you know it's something I think about where it's like, yeah,

1026
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:00,800
I'm gonna go.

1027
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1028
00:51:01,519 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1029
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,639
Speaker 5: So yeah, it just it just kind of depends. I

1030
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:08,880
just want to give myself the best opportunity to go

1031
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,400
out there and just you know, fulfill my dream. So

1032
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,840
that's coming back next year, and you know, if I'm

1033
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,840
hearing like I could help my draft stuff for next

1034
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,239
year if I come back another year and uh, you know,

1035
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,519
I can really improve it, and they're talking about I

1036
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:26,519
could be go go early. You know, I'll definitely consider

1037
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:29,639
coming back a lot more. And yeah, so just things

1038
00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:32,360
you got to think of just wondering. So yeah, it's

1039
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,599
gonna be a lot of praying and just listening to

1040
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,440
others what they gotta.

1041
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 3: Say, No doubt about it.

1042
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,119
Speaker 2: Take it all in. As you've mentioned, you're enjoying the process.

1043
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,599
You're enjoying the journey and Uh, you got great people

1044
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:49,599
around you to support you, advise you, and consult with you.

1045
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,960
So lean on those people that you trust and love

1046
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,280
the most. Man, it's been awesome watching you run uh

1047
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,239
and tote for Tuddies Man, one of the best running

1048
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,280
backs to ever come through BYU. We appreciate you hopping

1049
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,159
on for let's talk about STAT segment.

1050
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,199
Speaker 5: LJ oh, Yeah, thank you for having me.

1051
00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:09,559
Speaker 2: All right, we'll let LJ go as well as Blaine Anderson.

1052
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:12,000
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