Speaker 1: There's a lady we know been a friend of the
show for a while. Name is Stasio Kresnik, and I
just was going through what do we.
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Speaker 1: Today is the day of the law Lord has made
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Speaker 2: Stacy O.
Speaker 1: Grizznik joins, thisss been a while since we've had you
in the show. It's good to see you again. I
wish it was under different circumstances. Welcome back, can you Yeah,
you should be able to talk now, Stacy.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 4: Oh hi, how are you doing good?
Speaker 2: It's good to see your face.
Speaker 1: And again I wish it was under different circumstances. A
lot of people are new to the cast and therefore
new to your story. You took your husband Ryan to
the hospital and he had some specific orders and some
limits that you both stayed at in the hospital. Let's
talk about what happened.
Speaker 4: Well to kind of like recap it.
Speaker 5: My husband went into the hospital. He's forty one years old,
healthy male, had a bacterial lung infection when he went in,
and instead they changed it over to a COVID protocol
and a COVID situation gave him rem de severe against
our consent, shut down his kidneys, try to hide it.
They ended up putting him on a ventilator while he
had a ninety eight percent oxygen level. The doctor had
told me that he was going to vent Ryan with
or without his consent. I told him that was illegal.
He slammed the.
Speaker 4: Phone down on me, and then two hours or.
Speaker 5: A couple hours later, he called me back and said
he had vented him two hours ago and we come
to find out that was a lie. He actually had
not vented him yet because he told me Ryan's oxygen
dropped to forty percent, he was turning blue and told
him to just do it. And all of that was
a lie. And it ended up Ryan was still alert,
texting people that they were bringing him up a sedative
to help him feel better. He didn't know that two
rounds of xanax and two rounds of presidex would cause
him to go heavily sedation and to quit breathing. So
his oxygen dropped from nine from ninety eight percent to
the fifties.
Speaker 2: And that dropped oxygen so they could inuate him.
Speaker 4: Yep, and they had.
Speaker 5: Doctor told me it dropped a forty percent and so
it didn't quite reach to the level he thought he would,
but it got to the fifties and they intubated him.
And wait, do we go over what we discovered about
that event. But in the end they I had a
doctor fight to try to save him. And when they
actually gave him so much feentanyl to try to stop
this doctor from saving his life because a doctor had
tried to fight to save him, gave him I vermected
he he improved, and as he was improving, they took
it away from him, and in the end they overdosed
him with fentanyl. He was given over eighteen or one
eight hundred micrograms of fentanyl over the course of three hours,
when a normal max is one hundred micrograms every four hours.
Speaker 4: So they made sure that he did not wake back up.
Speaker 2: Medical murder.
Speaker 5: I see it, yes, oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. Uh you know,
he he ended up being put So I don't know
if you want me to go over the.
Speaker 2: Things we're talking.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the whole thing, because a lot of
people haven't heard this, and some people who have don't
know the new details, you know, So no, let's just
go through it.
Speaker 2: Says to take your time, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So what we had just now discovered within this year
from having his medical records reviewed by a medical legal
we had found out that not only had Marigo brad
my bird not only if.
Speaker 4: Not only did we have a not only did his oxygen.
Speaker 5: Was normal when they when they put him on those
drugs to vent him, they had known that it had
a known cuff leak, so it had a it had
a cup leak, so it was leaking oxygen. Not given
a medequate oxygen and it would also the and have
all his mouth secretions go into his lungs to cause
aspiration pneumonia.
Speaker 2: Wow, so they do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they knew it.
Speaker 2: They knew this, They knew it.
Speaker 5: They actually documented it. A nurse had documented that his
lung that his vent had a known cuff leak. Uh,
and yet nobody changed that out and instead, so that's
gonna allow all his mouth secretions to enter his lungs.
Caused aspiration pneumonia. They left that, and it was caused
inadequate oxygen. So that's going to cause his organs and everything.
Speaker 4: Else to shut down.
Speaker 5: So thirty four days out of forty four days there
he was left on a faulty ventilator system. And they
also knew at the time that they vented him, uh,
that he had a bed store and this bed store
was a level four bedstore to the bone, causing sepstress
in his body untreated nobody. I actually had just learned
about the bed store the last week of his life
through a nurse that pointed out out to me, so
that this is very serious, this is fatal, and uh,
nobody had told me about it prior. Nobody treated, it
won't care was never called. And on day four, on
this faulty ventilator system, hospice had came in and go
Hospice came in and said, uh, discharge plan pinko, it
will pass in the hospital. And then that's uh, they
just had put him on hospice care without our knowledge,
without our consent. So the whole time they're telling me
they're fighting for him to get better. And it makes
sense now because when I asked that nurse, what is
he on that's going to help him get off of
this and help him improve, she said, well, nothing, but
it's all we're allowed.
Speaker 4: To give him. And she said, if I fight for him,
I'll lose my job.
Speaker 1: I think I remember this, you said, didn't you say
to her? You know you're killing my husband? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I said, are we going to let a health you
forty one year old man just die? Is that what
you're telling me? And she said it's not right. I know,
but if I fight for him, I'll lose my job.
Speaker 1: Sometimes there's worse things than losing your job, like losing
your soul.
Speaker 2: She'll not murder. And you've got some lawyers.
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about that and how much this just made this worse,
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Speaker 1: So, Stacy, you had this interaction with this good doctor,
and remember you've called him the good doctor.
Speaker 2: So this is a bit of this.
Speaker 1: So set this up for us before we play the
clips so people have this context. Sure.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah.
Speaker 5: So when I was fighting for my husband and his
rights in the hospital, I was contacting any doctor I
could find and try to reach out see who could
break this protocol. And we found out through patient relations
there is nothing in the protocol that says or in
the policy that they can't break protocol and can't try.
Speaker 4: Something else for the patient.
Speaker 5: So this doctor that you're gonna hear actually tried ivermectin
on my spouse and gave him a proper dose steroid
and because he had such inflammation in his lungs and
his oxygen went from the low sixties to one hundred
percent less than twenty four hours, and he was making
improvements and strides to come off the event that they
had him on and he was on it for I
think around three weeks at that time, so he started
to improve and they took it away from him other doctors,
and it became a battle in the hospital where Ryan's
rights start stop, where the doctors then can.
Speaker 4: Override our rights.
Speaker 5: Because all the doctors stressed over and over that they
have to follow basically this cookie cutter medicine. Every patient
is treated the same, no individual patient care. And so
like what I've come to learn is that they they
pretty much tried to stick with anything that the Cares
Act was going to compensate them for, and if the
patient needed anything outside of that, that's their cost. So
it was the hospital pretty much had this, you can
tell it. It seems they have this great idea to well,
we'll just give them only what the Cares Act will cover,
and if even if they need the other part to
survive while they die, and we show that we just
treated with a recommended treatment plan, Well, the prep BAT
gives us immunity to not be held accountable. Uh so,
and then they just pray no one finds out about
mistreatment or breaking standard of care, which would been Ryan's
case with the bed sore, with the faulty event. That's
what gives a way to hold them accountable. So sadly,
if they had if there was no faulty event and
there was no bed sore, no mistreatment, no violation of
his rights, and somebody went in and they said, okay,
just treat me with what that protocol is that prep
BAT gave them immunity to harm if they died while
they followed that protocol. It just does not protect breaking
standard of care or intentional harm. Uh So, But this
doctor h was up against a lot of people. There
was only one other doctor, the chief of staff, working
beside him, and and they're against everyone else was just
against him doing anything that might jeopardize their jobs.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, And by the way, that's just reminder of
be of a place clip. There was a lot of
money involved in all of this. And say Sy's correct,
But the CARES Act and the PREP Act, there's money
for changing it from viral pneumonia to COVID the minute
that happened. They got money when they put him in
the hospital. They got money when they PCR tested him.
They got money when they put him on remdem severe.
They got money when they vented him. They got money
when they were sedating him. I understand it. They get money.
He dies as a COVID case, they get money. And
there's many states where if the person died from quote
from COVID, and you know this case, it's clear to
me and my judgment your husband was murdered. That states
where they can call it a COVID death life insurance
doesn't have to pay. So here's this interaction with this
gentleman you call the good doctor.
Speaker 6: Why he would want would want to change something that
was working. It doesn't make any sense to me. I
thought we're all working together to make a patient uh survive,
you know they live, and now he's making it a
personal battle. This is a bigger battle. Now you know,
this is not just about Brian. This is about uh
patient care and the air of COVID. You know, you
know bass medicine. I mean, you couldn't do anything. You
couldn't step out a line. Uh just cooking cutter medicine
and to go along with the program thing. I'm either
actually leave or got rid of you or you you know,
you had to walk. And I don't know who he's accountable,
So he should be accountable to Ryan and you just
stop to stare right, you know you're you're going to
kill him? I mean I didn't. I wouldn't say that
if I didn't believe it. So I don't know if
if that was his intention, I don't know. I don't
know what to say. Bryan, got uh uh you bringing
or you know, I'm just doing all the things to
be dead.
Speaker 4: My god, what did they do to him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they killed him my judgment. Yeah, So it
was that doctor and another doctor, say the chief of staff,
the chief of staff.
Speaker 5: Couldn't stop this, no, no, you know, and the chief
of staff at the at the end after that conversation.
Speaker 4: Uh, they had gotten the idea.
Speaker 5: To try to make that doctor behead of icu U
starting that Monday, January third.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: It was like a last ditch effort to try to
save him against the other ones just following unlawful orders.
Speaker 4: So they that was the plan.
Speaker 5: Will make him be ahead of the ICU and it
will be his choice what caer Ryan gets. Well, that
night before somebody had put in the orders to up
Ryan's fentanyl and me dazzlelamb like substantially. So a max
dose of fetanyl for somebody who might be in a
motorcycle accident broken had to tow in severe pain would
be like one hundred micrograms of fetanyl every four.
Speaker 4: Hours four to six hours.
Speaker 5: Ryan was given five hundred micrograms in the hour, then
six hundred the next hour, then seven hundred and seventy
five micrograms in the next hour. For over one thousand,
eight hundred micrograms of fetanyl and over three hour window.
He was also put on medazolam in high dosage, like
way higher than what they even used on death row inmates,
and also on profofall. So it was like they were
fed up, we're not playing, We're stopping this, and so
they got him out quicker, like the nurse's aid had
told me they did to Room seventeen that they had
got them out quicker when they were fighting for their
rights to break the protocol. And I stay in touch
with the Room seventeen, so we we know that they
were forcing death onto patients. I mean it's clear, it's
night and day and enough to the point that after
I was speaking out, I got the years of a
sheriff and two criminal prosecutors who heard my story and
said this needs to be criminally investigated right away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the criminal investigation might be very very important,
is very very important, because you came on our program
with a lawyer and former Feds from Medical Freedom.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that what they were calling themselves They.
Speaker 5: Actually called well, they were calling themselves declared Truth declared that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was their group.
Speaker 5: But they were associated with a former Fed's Freedom Foundation.
Speaker 4: Okay, they were like associate with that.
Speaker 1: All right, So they heard your story and the lawyers
got in touch and they were just filled with fire
to fight for you, and they went around the country.
They got on my program. We helped to raise money.
And if you gave money to that, I'm about to
issue an apology I didn't know and Stacy didn't know,
and talk about this lawyer and what's going on and
this this has to be spiritual, and I'm look, I
don't believe any longer. There's in my judgment, there's nothing
our government won't do to us, like nothing. So part
of me wonders if this wasn't a setup to make
sure that this happens to your case. Because of all
the people I've talked to, talked to Scott Shara and
other people who've been through this, you had the most evidence.
You have a lot of conversations in audio form. There's
no question that people knew what they were doing and
that there were other doctors trying to stop it. So
I think your case had to be tanked. So let's
talk about what happened.
Speaker 5: Okay, So yeah, after I came on actually your program,
the an attorney heard my story in the state of California,
and he reached out it. I got my phone number,
got my information, left his phone number. I called him
after getting his number, and he started the conversation with
can I just stop you and just pray with you
on the phone. I feel called by God to take
on these cases, you know, and I just.
Speaker 4: Feel this pulling to do the right thing. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 5: And he was saying, like everything I was praying for
God to lead me to the right team to tackle
the situation.
Speaker 4: And while I.
Speaker 5: Had another assurning that I was ready to actually sign
on with, I loved that one for then the one
in California, because I felt like God was redirecting me
from everything he said that fit things. I was praying,
this shows how bad the enemy can work. So I
trusted and went with him. And you know, he was
on contingency, but he did take some money up front
for covering filing fees, and he took some money from
various widows. He asked if there was more people in
my state that were needing help, and you know, basically
connect them both. So he ended up taking on several
cases and a few of them in Michigan, and he
ended up taking money from some widows, never filing their
cases at all, letting hum believe that everything was fine,
and by the time they found out that it wasn't,
it was kind of oops, my bad.
Speaker 4: I messed up.
Speaker 5: I forgot no money refunded, and other statue of limitations
were done asked for, like me and another one in Michigan.
Her name is Loriie. We actually ended up having our
cases filed, but he filed the day of our statues
being up, and we never saw a hearing. We were
never told when there was a hearing. I actually found
out about my last hearing that was taking place by
looking it up online and found out that it was
like the next day. As I found out about it,
his assistant had told me I could watch it. It was
being streamed on YouTube, but I would have to log
in under an alias name and email to listen to
my own hearing, So that was already some weird red flags.
Speaker 4: I didn't know why.
Speaker 5: That didn't make sense to me, but time was of
the essence and it was starting, so I.
Speaker 4: Just did it.
Speaker 5: So I created a name and fake email and set
up to go watch my hearing. Everything get dismissed without prejudice,
and was understanding why because we never got to know
any of our We never saw the complaint, we never
saw any hearings.
Speaker 4: We had no idea why.
Speaker 5: He just told us that the judge was very liberal
and hard to deal with and you can't win Michigan
left it all on the court's fault, and then said
that we weren't allowed to contact our Michigan representative attorney
and ask him any questions about our case, that we
were not to bother him, we weren't to compare notes
with each other, and how much we paid I know.
He said that we were paying money because we needed
to have some skin in the game. Apparently losing our
spouses in a horrific way was not enough, so that
was why we had to give money so that we
had something in it.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 5: Come afterwards, I asked him, I said, you know, we
asked for my you know, how long do we have
to refile? Told us we don't. He doesn't know. We
have to ask a Michigan attorney. And when I said, okay,
well I need all my records back. Can I get
my transcripts so we know exactly where the courts left off.
I need my medical records, which were all sent digitally
to them, and I had to send it through a
former FEDS group. I don't know why it couldn't be
sent directly to him, but it had to go through
for FED. So that was another thing. So we sent
my records there and nobody would give me my records back.
Speaker 4: So afterwards he said that.
Speaker 5: He wasn't allowed to send them back because he was
denied pearl Hawk to work out of state and told
us that it would make him look bad and he
didn't want those transcripts out there.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: Told us he would send them to a new attorney.
If we could find a new attorney, he would send
our stuff to the new attorney. However, he also told
us all in a recorded zoom that that he would
discourage any new attorneys from taking on our cases and
tell them not to that God is now telling him
to back away from all this, and that God would
want us to back away and not fight it the
same way.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: But I think there's correct me. If I'm wrong, I
think the judge or you found, at least in the
filings that he did do that bizarre filings. I think
the judge had commentary in some mistake.
Speaker 2: I think when we.
Speaker 1: Visited earlier, you said that. So let's talk through that.
And Stacy has an organization, Ryan's Fight for Truth. There's
also a gift said and go. There's a link in
the show notes. She needs help. There's a criminal case
to be investigated here. And people have heard this and said, look,
this sounds like a criminal It does sound like a
criminal offense to me, and it would be fantastic if
this could actually be put into where it belongs, which
is criminal law. The same thing would have been true
in Scott SHA's case. He's filed an appeal. A bizarre
decision in that case and that jury. I am at
a loss as to how the jury reached what it did,
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Speaker 2: So this lawyer who filed this paperwork.
Speaker 1: He wasn't really, it seems filing a paperwork on your behalf.
It almost seems like what he filed was a kind
of copy and paste from a lawsuit completely disconnected from yours.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So after we had gotten and I read the transcripts,
and the first thing that caught my attention was the
judge and Laurie's case had made the comment that they
had never seen a reason to deny someone pro hoc
except for today, Like this was the first time all
their years on the bench, the first time they've seen
a reason to deny someone pro hoc. So I was like,
what in the world happened? I got my uh copy
of the complaint.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: It read like a lawsuit against Pfizer or Gilead for
rem de Severe, and the prep Act would cover something
like that. They know that he knows that going into it,
And I was like, why is it all about rem
de Severe?
Speaker 4: The whole dire thing is.
Speaker 5: Severe and so comparing it, we know that you know
that the people from former FADS had actually helped my
complaint and our complaints and they were filing a class
action lawsuit against REMD Severe and so and trying they
were in the process of trying all that, and so
it looks as though it was just a flat out
copy paste from their fight, their battle and then marked
it as mine as some of my doctor's names. Actually
some of Lori's doctors were in my complaint. Uh, but
we had.
Speaker 4: It was just so sloppy.
Speaker 5: It literally the doctors that we were had in the
complaint had nothing to do with the REUMDA severe that
they were fighting, So of course it would make sense
for like the judge to be so confused by it.
The defense team wanted to laugh it basically out of
the courtroom, going, we don't even know what.
Speaker 4: To do with this.
Speaker 5: We never seen nothing like this before, so it was
like a clear non attempt to actually fight this.
Speaker 4: But the appearance of the fight was there.
Speaker 5: And so now by the time I had rushed back
to the first attorney who wanted the case, I went
back there. That's where we did a medical legal review
because the other one never had We never had a
medical review down in my records, never found anything of
those everything I was going to look for and look
into because I knew something was wrong, never done that.
They had never even asked for any of my evidence
before even filing, so they never even seen it.
Speaker 4: What were they filing on?
Speaker 5: And so nothing was ever medically properly medically reviewed, and
so it left me kind of in.
Speaker 4: The dark to start all over.
Speaker 5: So once I over one thousand dollars later to go
get all my records myself, get it, wait on everything
to come in. That took months, and by the time
I was able to ready to file again, we find
that I can't file medical malpractice because that statue is gone.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: And again this guy waited until the last day. Yeah,
so there's nothing at that point that could be done,
I mean at the times of So then you get
contacted by you said some law enforcement people, yep, yeah,
and so what's the what's their view of this?
Speaker 5: Well, the two that I had taught to, they said
that they believed that this well, for my husband's case,
they believed that it is medical battery, uh, negligent homicide,
medical kidnapping, and probably federal fraud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and are they willing to invest to gate that
as long enforcement officers.
Speaker 5: Uh, we're in the process of that. Okay, we're in
the process of the early stages.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they seem willing.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, yep. So we're in the early stages.
And so I'm like looking anyone that can help advance that.
I know one had suggested said that this might have
to go to the Attorney General's DUS because of it
be what the situation is with some of it. So,
but anything that can be handled locally, obviously that would
be beneficial.
Speaker 1: But then in the case it is attorney right, this
doesn't seem well A I do wonder because I think
this way now, given what they're willing to do to us,
if he was sent in to just destroy the case
and to poison the waters. And on the other hand
this he made money from this? Yeah, do you have
any idea how much money he got?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I know that there was thousands taken
collected from a lot of people. I do know that
that one of the people was referenced as the millionaire
in Texas that was one of their clients. And I
do know from talking to them that they paid significantly
more upfront. So I imagine that's someone he kept around
the longest because that was the one that had a
lot of money to work with. I don't know the
status of their case and where things are at, but
I do know every single other case has been dismissed,
every single one. All of us had the same exact complaint.
It was copy and paste, just like cookie cutter medicine
in the hospital. We're all on that same protocol, so
the same Yeah, it was the same generic complaint. And
the clients that he had in his own state. They
actually I was on the phone with two of them
when they had found out their hearing was the next day.
They were told through a zoom meeting three months back
that it was canceled. I mean that it was, you know, dismissed,
and so they thought it was all done same thing.
Never had a hearing. That the attendant didn't know, so
they took him for his word. While I was on
the phone with them, when they asked me how I
found out about when my hearing was, I said it
was online through the courts. That's how I found out.
So they went to go check to see if they
could get their transcripts if they were just you know, online,
And while doing that, they found out they had a
hearing the next day. They were like, what, like, it's
They even called up a friend that works in the courts.
Speaker 4: She works there.
Speaker 5: It's like, look at this and tell me if I'm
reading this wrong, because it says I have a hearing
the next day. And we were told in a meeting
three months back that everything's already been dismissed. So she
came on, looked at I was on the phone with
them and they said, yeah, there's a hearing tomorrow. So
she had the plan for them to write a letter
and give it to the bailiff to handle the judge
and say, hey, we haven't We've been kept out in
the dark for this whole time, no information, and we
didn't know, and we didn't give a chance to even
have our voices heard in court. And by then it
was just too late. They couldn't let the judge see
it beforehand because it would have been like a biased
thing sway a decision, so they they couldn't. But he
told them to fight it afterwards and told him that
he thinks it's in the wrong court anyway that it
should be a criminal case as well, and that was
coming from their judge.
Speaker 2: The judge said that he thinks it should be a
criminal case.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, wow, so yeah, I mean, they said, but
it was like it was in the wrong court system,
that this should be bigger, even like a federal federal offense.
So they uh, they they even had some of them
had grievances against them from fines that they didn't know about,
so they had fees ranked up in the courts because
their attorney never told them they had any fees.
Speaker 4: So this is how bad this is.
Speaker 5: I mean, everybody was given all this money and we
were collecting their you know, having a school across the
country or country ofble states and telling our stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're speaking everywhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah. The time when I was meeting with you, we
were getting ready to go into Texas. They had me
fly to Texas.
Speaker 4: To tell my story.
Speaker 5: And when I got to the airport, my flight was canceled.
They pretend they didn't know, you know how that happened.
Told me to read buy my ticket. So I had
to read buy my ticket during the time when all
my money was tied up in probate, buy my ticket.
Speaker 4: To get there and never saw that money again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the That's what I'm curious about is how
much money they collected on that front. As you guys
are going around the country and I know that, you
know my friend and our common friends got Shara. You
know he has appealed his case. He has a book
coming out. I can't talk much about it. I have
a pre print. No, I just learned about it. I
probably shouldn't have said that, got Yeah, well I probably should.
Speaker 2: Have said that.
Speaker 1: But then again, at least it's a little bit of
free promotion on this. The closing question for you in
a second, it's kind of a tough question. I'll run
this by you second, Stacey, And again a link to
the gifts send goes below.
Speaker 2: And this is an efforts.
Speaker 1: I mean, we want to go after this attorney, right
in addition to making sure that if we can get
a criminal investigation in this, we want a criminal investigation,
an investigation. We don't want to let the fight go
because in my judgment, Ryan was medically murdered. But I
have a tough question for you about that. In a second, Okay,
did you get a chance yet to go watch?
Speaker 2: Thank you? Doctor? Fauci.
Speaker 1: The more I think about that film and the conclusions
it's reached, the more I understand why no one wants
to talk about it. Jenner first, the director. He is
an award winning director. He's got a long history. He
worked with some of the most powerful people in Hollywood
to put this together. I didn't know that until I
chat with him. Some of the biggest names in Hollywood
backed this thing. And the conclusion they came out with is,
you want to talk rigged game. A guy Tony.
Speaker 2: Fauci for forty years.
Speaker 1: Is responsible, in their estimation, for in his labs, the
labs used to run, is responsible for all the pandemics
during that time. That's the that's their analysis, create the problem,
charge people for the cure. So much worse than that, though.
They contend that we are the victims of Chinese spies
working against us in a bioterror race, but inconveniently not
Chinese spies, spies for the Chinese Commist Party working against us,
But inconveniently they're American citizens with a lot of power
who are also working against the Chinese government as double
agents for us. We're in a bio terror race with
the Chinese Commonist Party.
Speaker 2: In fact, she.
Speaker 1: Knew these things and hid these things. So it's an
extraordinary movie that actually takes The movie is a movie
within a movie. You're watching them make the movie, and
what's cool about that is you're watching them ract lifetime
to research and then watching Jenner go through the halls
of Congress to try to get someone.
Speaker 2: To actually look.
Speaker 1: At the evidence that Fauci is a psychopathic killer. And
it's very frustrating but very illuminating. It's called Thank You,
Doctor Fauci. You canstrum it right now at angel dot
com slash Herman. That's Angel dot com slash Herman. Don't
just stream the movie. Become a member of the guild
and you get to vote for more movies like this
to be made. Angel dot com slash Herman. Here's a
tough question, Stacey. Do you wish that you had ridden
heard over this guy and then all over him and
looking at every piece of paperwork and double checking it
and basically acting as your own attorney.
Speaker 2: With an attorney.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I definitely regret trusting him, that's for sure,
because it ruined my chance to be heard and bring
my evidence to the court.
Speaker 1: And look at the YouTube channel, by the way, for
the evidence and tell me that this wouldn't have gone
to court.
Speaker 2: Just go look at her.
Speaker 1: There's a link to Stacy's YouTube channel. You go look
at this and tell me that a judge wouldn't have
fun a way to get this like heard, sorry Stacey?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because I mean they they documented that he
refused the vent, that that was documented, and yet they
set him up.
Speaker 4: For it and then it was faulty. It was a
faulty event. They knew it. I mean, you're causing more
harm than what he went in for.
Speaker 1: So do you wish that you'd take in say, no,
I need to see what day am I going to
see the complaint?
Speaker 2: When will I get to review it for accuracy?
Speaker 1: Do you wish that you had really, as I said,
just you know, managed this guy written hurt on top
of the process.
Speaker 6: Oh me.
Speaker 5: Hindsight, Yeah, but at the time, you know, you're trusting
that an attorney knows what they're doing.
Speaker 4: And it's the same thing like you know, you.
Speaker 5: Trust that doctors are medically trained and that you would
know you know that you would have right still in
the hospital.
Speaker 4: So everything is hindsight. But even then, even if I
was on top of him.
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I'm taking him his word, like did
you I there's emails where I'm asking him, hey, did
you file an intent to sue? Notice in Michigan we
need an intent to sue and he says yes. Yet
you see in our transcript that he didn't do that
properly either, anythough he told me it was done. So,
I mean, there was like a lot of times when
I was even talking to Scott Shara and even saying,
because Scott Sara almost got the same attorney too, except
for I refer the first one to him that he
knows his attorney was the first one I was gonna
go with.
Speaker 4: So I I.
Speaker 5: Was talking to Scott and I just said, you know,
I don't know, am I just is it paranoia?
Speaker 4: Or am I doing? Is he doing everything right? But
we were stuck. You know at that point you're gotting
neck deep in it. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 5: And you're trusting his word that he's saying, yes, everything
is fine, we're good, We're all great. You know, this
is beautiful complaint and YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 4: In your year, you.
Speaker 5: Believe Okay, yeah, they got this, especially someone who comes
in the name of God and acting like you know,
they were doing God's work and God's mission and were
staying that to a bunch of Christians who are gonna,
you know, be receptive to that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's like it was target targeted.
Speaker 1: So what do you hope to do against this attorney?
I mean, disbarments, you know, criminal complaints. What do you
intend to do against this guy?
Speaker 5: Well, I think there should be some accountability for what
was taken from Ryan, and not even just Ryan, but
all the widows. And if I can be that voice
for all the widows that were affected, and some of them,
I mean not all of them are widows. Some of
them lost parents or lost other people, but just the
vast majority were widows or widowers. And so if there
can be some justice to hold accountability for what was stolen,
because it was we were revictimized twice. Not only do
we trust medical people, but then we trusted a law
firm to represent us and have our voices have a
chance to be heard.
Speaker 4: Nothing is a guarantee when we.
Speaker 5: Know that, but damn it, try try for us and
actually put an effort in there to have our voices heard,
because had all this evidence been brought forward into a court.
Speaker 4: Who knows where it.
Speaker 5: Could have went, you know, from there much so instead
of having us have to start all over again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5: Just like we were just money to the hospital. It
feels like we were just money to that law firm.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so if they are, I know there are lawyers
watching and are listening, and you know how to get
a bar complaint, please help Stacy with that. I know
this guy violated professional code of ethics and in canon
of ethics.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 1: And if you know a way to get that in
front of the licensing boards and the bar associations, I
ask you to do that. I know the bar Association's
body in on the on the Fausci protocols. I know that,
but they can't all be okay with actions like this.
If you're in law enforcement and you're in Stacey, State
of Michigan, and you concur that this is criminal, look,
donate some time if it's If it's not money, it
might be that your time is more valuable and help
her get this actually heard in front of a jury
and seen in front of a jury. Because the massive
amounts of evidence you can see at her YouTube channel.
Speaker 2: So Stacy again.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry this has happened to you again, and I
appreciate you getting with us. And I want to just
apologize to people who donated to help this case. Not
because I don't believe in Stacy, I do, but because
of what this law firm peers to have done, according
to Stacy, and I feel bad for that.
Speaker 2: I feel bad for that. So, Stacy, I.
Speaker 5: Was gonna say, all the money that was raised was
told to go to the widows.
Speaker 4: And now she.
Speaker 5: Listening to the second time I've been on your show
with them, Damon mentioned it. We haven't talked about how
that money was to go to the victims, but when
everything was done with our case, we were just told
that money was all gone and we don't know where
that money went.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I have a guess as to where it went. Well, Stacy,
God be with you. You're a brave warrior. And I
know God has Ryan in his embrace and he walks
with Jesus, and in that I know you guys will
be reunited.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you coming on, Stacy.
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you to the Perth. This is the Todd Herman Show.
Speaker 1: Please go be well, be strong, be kind, and please
make every effort to walk in the light of Christ,
and I know I intend to give my wife, my
beloved wife, a special hugger to get home.
Speaker 2: Given this content of the show today