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show for a while. Name is Stasio Kresnik, and I

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just was going through what do we.

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Speaker 1: And I'll check off with throw when she thinks of this.

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But I think we're gonna talk with someone who's a

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Fauci protocol widow, and she refuses to give up a

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fight for justice and there's a massive change in her case.

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folks are new what happens, and then what happened, and

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then what we need to have happened. We'll talk about

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dot com and it's God almighty.

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Speaker 3: But Todd Herman show is one disapproved by big pharma

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technocrats and Tyran's everywhere from the high mountains of Free America.

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Here's the Emerald City Exime Todd Herman.

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Speaker 1: Today is the day of the law Lord has made

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in These are the times through which God has decided

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we shall live.

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Speaker 2: Stacy O.

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Speaker 1: Grizznik joins, thisss been a while since we've had you

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in the show. It's good to see you again. I

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wish it was under different circumstances. Welcome back, can you Yeah,

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you should be able to talk now, Stacy.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 4: Oh hi, how are you doing good?

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Speaker 2: It's good to see your face.

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Speaker 1: And again I wish it was under different circumstances. A

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lot of people are new to the cast and therefore

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new to your story. You took your husband Ryan to

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the hospital and he had some specific orders and some

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limits that you both stayed at in the hospital. Let's

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talk about what happened.

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Speaker 4: Well to kind of like recap it.

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Speaker 5: My husband went into the hospital. He's forty one years old,

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healthy male, had a bacterial lung infection when he went in,

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and instead they changed it over to a COVID protocol

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and a COVID situation gave him rem de severe against

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our consent, shut down his kidneys, try to hide it.

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They ended up putting him on a ventilator while he

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had a ninety eight percent oxygen level. The doctor had

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told me that he was going to vent Ryan with

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or without his consent. I told him that was illegal.

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He slammed the.

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Speaker 4: Phone down on me, and then two hours or.

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Speaker 5: A couple hours later, he called me back and said

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he had vented him two hours ago and we come

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to find out that was a lie. He actually had

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not vented him yet because he told me Ryan's oxygen

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dropped to forty percent, he was turning blue and told

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him to just do it. And all of that was

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a lie. And it ended up Ryan was still alert,

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texting people that they were bringing him up a sedative

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to help him feel better. He didn't know that two

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rounds of xanax and two rounds of presidex would cause

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him to go heavily sedation and to quit breathing. So

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his oxygen dropped from nine from ninety eight percent to

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the fifties.

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Speaker 2: And that dropped oxygen so they could inuate him.

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Speaker 4: Yep, and they had.

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Speaker 5: Doctor told me it dropped a forty percent and so

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it didn't quite reach to the level he thought he would,

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but it got to the fifties and they intubated him.

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that event. But in the end they I had a

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doctor fight to try to save him. And when they

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actually gave him so much feentanyl to try to stop

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this doctor from saving his life because a doctor had

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tried to fight to save him, gave him I vermected

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he he improved, and as he was improving, they took

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it away from him, and in the end they overdosed

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him with fentanyl. He was given over eighteen or one

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eight hundred micrograms of fentanyl over the course of three hours,

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when a normal max is one hundred micrograms every four hours.

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Speaker 4: So they made sure that he did not wake back up.

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Speaker 2: Medical murder.

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Speaker 5: I see it, yes, oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. Uh you know,

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he he ended up being put So I don't know

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if you want me to go over the.

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Speaker 2: Things we're talking.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the whole thing, because a lot of

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people haven't heard this, and some people who have don't

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know the new details, you know, So no, let's just

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Speaker 2: Says to take your time, okay.

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Speaker 5: So what we had just now discovered within this year

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from having his medical records reviewed by a medical legal

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we had found out that not only had Marigo brad

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Speaker 4: Not only did we have a not only did his oxygen.

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Speaker 5: Was normal when they when they put him on those

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drugs to vent him, they had known that it had

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a known cuff leak, so it had a it had

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a cup leak, so it was leaking oxygen. Not given

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a medequate oxygen and it would also the and have

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all his mouth secretions go into his lungs to cause

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aspiration pneumonia.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so they do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they knew it.

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lung that his vent had a known cuff leak. Uh,

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and yet nobody changed that out and instead, so that's

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gonna allow all his mouth secretions to enter his lungs.

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inadequate oxygen. So that's going to cause his organs and everything.

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he was left on a faulty ventilator system. And they

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also knew at the time that they vented him, uh,

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that he had a bed store and this bed store

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was a level four bedstore to the bone, causing sepstress

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in his body untreated nobody. I actually had just learned

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about the bed store the last week of his life

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through a nurse that pointed out out to me, so

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that this is very serious, this is fatal, and uh,

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nobody had told me about it prior. Nobody treated, it

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won't care was never called. And on day four, on

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this faulty ventilator system, hospice had came in and go

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will pass in the hospital. And then that's uh, they

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just had put him on hospice care without our knowledge,

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without our consent. So the whole time they're telling me

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they're fighting for him to get better. And it makes

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he on that's going to help him get off of

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this and help him improve, she said, well, nothing, but

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it's all we're allowed.

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Speaker 1: I think I remember this, you said, didn't you say

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to her? You know you're killing my husband? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I said, are we going to let a health you

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forty one year old man just die? Is that what

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you're telling me? And she said it's not right. I know,

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but if I fight for him, I'll lose my job.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes there's worse things than losing your job, like losing

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Speaker 2: She'll not murder. And you've got some lawyers.

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Speaker 1: To help you, help you, quote help you or talk

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about that and how much this just made this worse,

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and we'll get to that as well as we talk

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with you through this. I want to, in a second

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fee to see an interaction that Stacy has in vide

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because Stacey is a ton of evidence at her YouTube channel.

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There's also a gift send go, and we're gonna tell

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You know, people would look sometimes at in the follows

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of Christ and even look at people who were disabled,

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and they would say, Lord, you know, Rabbi, who's sinned this?

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This this person or their parents that they're in this condition.

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And Jesus taught that look, wait, wait, wait, neither of

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their parents sinned. This is done for the glory of

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God and the testing of mercy, for the opportunity for

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you to extend mercy and kindness for the or disabled paraphrase,

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and will always be here with us. So we have

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a decision as a society how to do this. And

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on a very personal basis, my friend John who runs

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Alan soaps for his kids for the time being, because

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John is going to the Eternal Reward of Christ sometime

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next year spring probably summer, John will breathe his last

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He's passing on the company to his wife, teaching her

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and I run it. Alan Soaps proves that there are

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people who are disabled like Alan, who is effectively nonverbal.

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effectively Well, he's been through eighteen operations.

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Speaker 2: He's fourteen.

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Speaker 1: So now the soap company is not about sympathy. It's

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not a charity. It's a company found that on selling

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you the best soap in the world, made in the

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Midwest by a family of three generations of soap making expertise,

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made with fragrances. You can only get there with the

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purpose of selling you the best soap in the world.

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not just their sons. Before this terrible news about John,

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we were employing other people. So we have a decision

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to make support this soap company or soap companies that

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are just made with chemicals and exploitation. Go to Alan

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Soaps dot com slash todd. You get ten percent off

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all of their products there, it's Alan Soaps dot.

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Speaker 2: Com slash Todd.

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Speaker 1: So, Stacy, you had this interaction with this good doctor,

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Speaker 1: So set this up for us before we play the

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Speaker 5: So when I was fighting for my husband and his

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break this protocol. And we found out through patient relations

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there is nothing in the protocol that says or in

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the policy that they can't break protocol and can't try.

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Speaker 5: So this doctor that you're gonna hear actually tried ivermectin

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to improve and they took it away from him other doctors,

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and it became a battle in the hospital where Ryan's

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patient needed anything outside of that, that's their cost. So

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it was the hospital pretty much had this, you can

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we'll just give them only what the Cares Act will cover,

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survive while they die, and we show that we just

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treated with a recommended treatment plan, Well, the prep BAT

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gives us immunity to not be held accountable. Uh so,

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and then they just pray no one finds out about

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mistreatment or breaking standard of care, which would been Ryan's

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case with the bed sore, with the faulty event. That's

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standard of care or intentional harm. Uh So, But this

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beside him, and and they're against everyone else was just

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money involved in all of this. And say Sy's correct,

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But the CARES Act and the PREP Act, there's money

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for changing it from viral pneumonia to COVID the minute

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that happened. They got money when they put him in

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the hospital. They got money when they PCR tested him.

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They got money when they put him on remdem severe.

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They got money when they vented him. They got money

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when they were sedating him. I understand it. They get money.

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He dies as a COVID case, they get money. And

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there's many states where if the person died from quote

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from COVID, and you know this case, it's clear to

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me and my judgment your husband was murdered. That states

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where they can call it a COVID death life insurance

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doesn't have to pay. So here's this interaction with this

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gentleman you call the good doctor.

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Speaker 6: Why he would want would want to change something that

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was working. It doesn't make any sense to me. I

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thought we're all working together to make a patient uh survive,

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you know they live, and now he's making it a

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personal battle. This is a bigger battle. Now you know,

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this is not just about Brian. This is about uh

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patient care and the air of COVID. You know, you

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know bass medicine. I mean, you couldn't do anything. You

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couldn't step out a line. Uh just cooking cutter medicine

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and to go along with the program thing. I'm either

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actually leave or got rid of you or you you know,

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you had to walk. And I don't know who he's accountable,

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So he should be accountable to Ryan and you just

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stop to stare right, you know you're you're going to

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kill him? I mean I didn't. I wouldn't say that

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if I didn't believe it. So I don't know if

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if that was his intention, I don't know. I don't

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know what to say. Bryan, got uh uh you bringing

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or you know, I'm just doing all the things to

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be dead.

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Speaker 4: My god, what did they do to him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they killed him my judgment. Yeah, So it

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was that doctor and another doctor, say the chief of staff,

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the chief of staff.

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Speaker 5: Couldn't stop this, no, no, you know, and the chief

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of staff at the at the end after that conversation.

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Speaker 4: Uh, they had gotten the idea.

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Speaker 5: To try to make that doctor behead of icu U

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starting that Monday, January third.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: It was like a last ditch effort to try to

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save him against the other ones just following unlawful orders.

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Speaker 4: So they that was the plan.

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Speaker 5: Will make him be ahead of the ICU and it

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will be his choice what caer Ryan gets. Well, that

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night before somebody had put in the orders to up

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Ryan's fentanyl and me dazzlelamb like substantially. So a max

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dose of fetanyl for somebody who might be in a

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motorcycle accident broken had to tow in severe pain would

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be like one hundred micrograms of fetanyl every four.

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Speaker 4: Hours four to six hours.

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Speaker 5: Ryan was given five hundred micrograms in the hour, then

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six hundred the next hour, then seven hundred and seventy

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five micrograms in the next hour. For over one thousand,

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eight hundred micrograms of fetanyl and over three hour window.

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way higher than what they even used on death row inmates,

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and also on profofall. So it was like they were

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fed up, we're not playing, We're stopping this, and so

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they got him out quicker, like the nurse's aid had

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told me they did to Room seventeen that they had

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got them out quicker when they were fighting for their

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rights to break the protocol. And I stay in touch

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with the Room seventeen, so we we know that they

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were forcing death onto patients. I mean it's clear, it's

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night and day and enough to the point that after

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I was speaking out, I got the years of a

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sheriff and two criminal prosecutors who heard my story and

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said this needs to be criminally investigated right away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the criminal investigation might be very very important,

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is very very important, because you came on our program

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with a lawyer and former Feds from Medical Freedom.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't that what they were calling themselves They.

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Speaker 5: Actually called well, they were calling themselves declared Truth declared that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was their group.

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Speaker 5: But they were associated with a former Fed's Freedom Foundation.

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Speaker 4: Okay, they were like associate with that.

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Speaker 1: All right, So they heard your story and the lawyers

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got in touch and they were just filled with fire

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to fight for you, and they went around the country.

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They got on my program. We helped to raise money.

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And if you gave money to that, I'm about to

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issue an apology I didn't know and Stacy didn't know,

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and talk about this lawyer and what's going on and

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this this has to be spiritual, and I'm look, I

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don't believe any longer. There's in my judgment, there's nothing

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our government won't do to us, like nothing. So part

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of me wonders if this wasn't a setup to make

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sure that this happens to your case. Because of all

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the people I've talked to, talked to Scott Shara and

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other people who've been through this, you had the most evidence.

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You have a lot of conversations in audio form. There's

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no question that people knew what they were doing and

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that there were other doctors trying to stop it. So

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I think your case had to be tanked. So let's

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talk about what happened.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So yeah, after I came on actually your program,

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the an attorney heard my story in the state of California,

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and he reached out it. I got my phone number,

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got my information, left his phone number. I called him

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after getting his number, and he started the conversation with

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can I just stop you and just pray with you

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on the phone. I feel called by God to take

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on these cases, you know, and I just.

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Speaker 4: Feel this pulling to do the right thing. YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 5: And he was saying, like everything I was praying for

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God to lead me to the right team to tackle

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the situation.

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Speaker 4: And while I.

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Speaker 5: Had another assurning that I was ready to actually sign

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on with, I loved that one for then the one

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in California, because I felt like God was redirecting me

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from everything he said that fit things. I was praying,

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this shows how bad the enemy can work. So I

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trusted and went with him. And you know, he was

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on contingency, but he did take some money up front

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for covering filing fees, and he took some money from

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various widows. He asked if there was more people in

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my state that were needing help, and you know, basically

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connect them both. So he ended up taking on several

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cases and a few of them in Michigan, and he

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ended up taking money from some widows, never filing their

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cases at all, letting hum believe that everything was fine,

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and by the time they found out that it wasn't,

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it was kind of oops, my bad.

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Speaker 4: I messed up.

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Speaker 5: I forgot no money refunded, and other statue of limitations

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were done asked for, like me and another one in Michigan.

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Her name is Loriie. We actually ended up having our

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cases filed, but he filed the day of our statues

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being up, and we never saw a hearing. We were

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never told when there was a hearing. I actually found

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out about my last hearing that was taking place by

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looking it up online and found out that it was

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like the next day. As I found out about it,

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his assistant had told me I could watch it. It was

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being streamed on YouTube, but I would have to log

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in under an alias name and email to listen to

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my own hearing, So that was already some weird red flags.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know why.

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Speaker 5: That didn't make sense to me, but time was of

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the essence and it was starting, so I.

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Speaker 4: Just did it.

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Speaker 5: So I created a name and fake email and set

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up to go watch my hearing. Everything get dismissed without prejudice,

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and was understanding why because we never got to know

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any of our We never saw the complaint, we never

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saw any hearings.

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Speaker 4: We had no idea why.

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Speaker 5: He just told us that the judge was very liberal

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and hard to deal with and you can't win Michigan

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left it all on the court's fault, and then said

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that we weren't allowed to contact our Michigan representative attorney

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and ask him any questions about our case, that we

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were not to bother him, we weren't to compare notes

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with each other, and how much we paid I know.

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He said that we were paying money because we needed

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to have some skin in the game. Apparently losing our

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spouses in a horrific way was not enough, so that

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was why we had to give money so that we

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had something in it.

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Speaker 4: And then.

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Speaker 5: Come afterwards, I asked him, I said, you know, we

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asked for my you know, how long do we have

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to refile? Told us we don't. He doesn't know. We

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have to ask a Michigan attorney. And when I said, okay,

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well I need all my records back. Can I get

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my transcripts so we know exactly where the courts left off.

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I need my medical records, which were all sent digitally

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to them, and I had to send it through a

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former FEDS group. I don't know why it couldn't be

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sent directly to him, but it had to go through

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for FED. So that was another thing. So we sent

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my records there and nobody would give me my records back.

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Speaker 4: So afterwards he said that.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't allowed to send them back because he was

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denied pearl Hawk to work out of state and told

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us that it would make him look bad and he

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didn't want those transcripts out there.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Told us he would send them to a new attorney.

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If we could find a new attorney, he would send

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our stuff to the new attorney. However, he also told

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us all in a recorded zoom that that he would

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discourage any new attorneys from taking on our cases and

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tell them not to that God is now telling him

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to back away from all this, and that God would

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want us to back away and not fight it the

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same way.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: But I think there's correct me. If I'm wrong, I

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think the judge or you found, at least in the

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filings that he did do that bizarre filings. I think

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the judge had commentary in some mistake.

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Speaker 2: I think when we.

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Speaker 1: Visited earlier, you said that. So let's talk through that.

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And Stacy has an organization, Ryan's Fight for Truth. There's

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also a gift said and go. There's a link in

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the show notes. She needs help. There's a criminal case

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to be investigated here. And people have heard this and said, look,

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this sounds like a criminal It does sound like a

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criminal offense to me, and it would be fantastic if

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this could actually be put into where it belongs, which

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is criminal law. The same thing would have been true

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in Scott SHA's case. He's filed an appeal. A bizarre

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decision in that case and that jury. I am at

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a loss as to how the jury reached what it did,

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although the judge was very aggressively against Scott in that case,

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and that's now on record. So we'll talk about this

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with Stacy or Grosnikire just a second. My friend Tim

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kruk Shank is the founder and CEO of Bone Frog Coffee.

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He lost plenty of people in the battlefield.

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Speaker 2: He was a medic.

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Speaker 1: He was there to save lives, didn't always work out,

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and then he lost his wife, a fifteen year battle

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with cancer where Tim kept her alive for about ten

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of those years because the doctors gave her a very

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short time span and Tim refused to give up. She

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got to see her daughters get into call her, She

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got to see things. She got to take one last

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trip to Disney World because she promised her young kid

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she would. She flew across the country. It just about

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killed her, but she lived. Tim has created a very

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special bone Frog bag. It's called Sisterhood. It's a tribute

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to the wives of Navy seals and on the bottom

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of the bag there's a write up a tribute to

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his beloved wife, Liz. This is a lamenta coffee from

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the Terazou region of Costa Rica. It's super clean, high altitude,

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one of the brightest bright citrus flavors. Fural notes as

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this little chocolate finish to it. This is arguably the

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top one half of one percent of all coffees and

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it is dedicated to Liz. And when you purchase this,

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you will be giving money.

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Speaker 2: Proceeds. Ten percent of proceeds.

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Speaker 1: To the gold Star Wives go to Bonefrog Coffee dot

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Speaker 2: So this lawyer who filed this paperwork.

486
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Speaker 1: He wasn't really, it seems filing a paperwork on your behalf.

487
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,599
It almost seems like what he filed was a kind

488
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of copy and paste from a lawsuit completely disconnected from yours.

489
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Speaker 5: Yeah. So after we had gotten and I read the transcripts,

490
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and the first thing that caught my attention was the

491
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,640
judge and Laurie's case had made the comment that they

492
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had never seen a reason to deny someone pro hoc

493
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except for today, Like this was the first time all

494
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their years on the bench, the first time they've seen

495
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a reason to deny someone pro hoc. So I was like,

496
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what in the world happened? I got my uh copy

497
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of the complaint.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: It read like a lawsuit against Pfizer or Gilead for

500
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rem de Severe, and the prep Act would cover something

501
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like that. They know that he knows that going into it,

502
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And I was like, why is it all about rem

503
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de Severe?

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Speaker 4: The whole dire thing is.

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Speaker 5: Severe and so comparing it, we know that you know

506
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that the people from former FADS had actually helped my

507
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complaint and our complaints and they were filing a class

508
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action lawsuit against REMD Severe and so and trying they

509
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were in the process of trying all that, and so

510
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it looks as though it was just a flat out

511
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copy paste from their fight, their battle and then marked

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it as mine as some of my doctor's names. Actually

513
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some of Lori's doctors were in my complaint. Uh, but

514
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we had.

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Speaker 4: It was just so sloppy.

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Speaker 5: It literally the doctors that we were had in the

517
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complaint had nothing to do with the REUMDA severe that

518
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they were fighting, So of course it would make sense

519
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for like the judge to be so confused by it.

520
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The defense team wanted to laugh it basically out of

521
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the courtroom, going, we don't even know what.

522
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Speaker 4: To do with this.

523
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Speaker 5: We never seen nothing like this before, so it was

524
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like a clear non attempt to actually fight this.

525
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Speaker 4: But the appearance of the fight was there.

526
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Speaker 5: And so now by the time I had rushed back

527
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to the first attorney who wanted the case, I went

528
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back there. That's where we did a medical legal review

529
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because the other one never had We never had a

530
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medical review down in my records, never found anything of

531
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those everything I was going to look for and look

532
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into because I knew something was wrong, never done that.

533
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They had never even asked for any of my evidence

534
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before even filing, so they never even seen it.

535
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Speaker 4: What were they filing on?

536
00:27:54,839 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 5: And so nothing was ever medically properly medically reviewed, and

537
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so it left me kind of in.

538
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Speaker 4: The dark to start all over.

539
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: So once I over one thousand dollars later to go

540
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get all my records myself, get it, wait on everything

541
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to come in. That took months, and by the time

542
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I was able to ready to file again, we find

543
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that I can't file medical malpractice because that statue is gone.

544
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Speaker 3: Wow.

545
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Speaker 1: And again this guy waited until the last day. Yeah,

546
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so there's nothing at that point that could be done,

547
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I mean at the times of So then you get

548
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contacted by you said some law enforcement people, yep, yeah,

549
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and so what's the what's their view of this?

550
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Speaker 5: Well, the two that I had taught to, they said

551
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that they believed that this well, for my husband's case,

552
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:52,599
they believed that it is medical battery, uh, negligent homicide,

553
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:56,640
medical kidnapping, and probably federal fraud.

554
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and are they willing to invest to gate that

555
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as long enforcement officers.

556
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Speaker 5: Uh, we're in the process of that. Okay, we're in

557
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the process of the early stages.

558
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Speaker 2: Okay, so they seem willing.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, yep. So we're in the early stages.

560
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And so I'm like looking anyone that can help advance that.

561
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I know one had suggested said that this might have

562
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to go to the Attorney General's DUS because of it

563
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be what the situation is with some of it. So,

564
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but anything that can be handled locally, obviously that would

565
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be beneficial.

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Speaker 1: But then in the case it is attorney right, this

567
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doesn't seem well A I do wonder because I think

568
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this way now, given what they're willing to do to us,

569
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if he was sent in to just destroy the case

570
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and to poison the waters. And on the other hand

571
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this he made money from this? Yeah, do you have

572
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any idea how much money he got?

573
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean I know that there was thousands taken

574
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collected from a lot of people. I do know that

575
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that one of the people was referenced as the millionaire

576
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in Texas that was one of their clients. And I

577
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do know from talking to them that they paid significantly

578
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more upfront. So I imagine that's someone he kept around

579
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the longest because that was the one that had a

580
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lot of money to work with. I don't know the

581
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status of their case and where things are at, but

582
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I do know every single other case has been dismissed,

583
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every single one. All of us had the same exact complaint.

584
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It was copy and paste, just like cookie cutter medicine

585
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,519
in the hospital. We're all on that same protocol, so

586
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,680
the same Yeah, it was the same generic complaint. And

587
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,640
the clients that he had in his own state. They

588
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actually I was on the phone with two of them

589
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when they had found out their hearing was the next day.

590
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They were told through a zoom meeting three months back

591
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that it was canceled. I mean that it was, you know, dismissed,

592
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and so they thought it was all done same thing.

593
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Never had a hearing. That the attendant didn't know, so

594
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they took him for his word. While I was on

595
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the phone with them, when they asked me how I

596
00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:17,240
found out about when my hearing was, I said it

597
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was online through the courts. That's how I found out.

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So they went to go check to see if they

599
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could get their transcripts if they were just you know, online,

600
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And while doing that, they found out they had a

601
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hearing the next day. They were like, what, like, it's

602
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They even called up a friend that works in the courts.

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Speaker 4: She works there.

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Speaker 5: It's like, look at this and tell me if I'm

605
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:38,480
reading this wrong, because it says I have a hearing

606
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the next day. And we were told in a meeting

607
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three months back that everything's already been dismissed. So she

608
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,319
came on, looked at I was on the phone with

609
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them and they said, yeah, there's a hearing tomorrow. So

610
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she had the plan for them to write a letter

611
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and give it to the bailiff to handle the judge

612
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and say, hey, we haven't We've been kept out in

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the dark for this whole time, no information, and we

614
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didn't know, and we didn't give a chance to even

615
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have our voices heard in court. And by then it

616
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was just too late. They couldn't let the judge see

617
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it beforehand because it would have been like a biased

618
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thing sway a decision, so they they couldn't. But he

619
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told them to fight it afterwards and told him that

620
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he thinks it's in the wrong court anyway that it

621
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should be a criminal case as well, and that was

622
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coming from their judge.

623
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Speaker 2: The judge said that he thinks it should be a

624
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criminal case.

625
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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, wow, so yeah, I mean, they said, but

626
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,240
it was like it was in the wrong court system,

627
00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:35,480
that this should be bigger, even like a federal federal offense.

628
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So they uh, they they even had some of them

629
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had grievances against them from fines that they didn't know about,

630
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so they had fees ranked up in the courts because

631
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their attorney never told them they had any fees.

632
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Speaker 4: So this is how bad this is.

633
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,039
Speaker 5: I mean, everybody was given all this money and we

634
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:57,799
were collecting their you know, having a school across the

635
00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:02,400
country or country ofble states and telling our stories.

636
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're speaking everywhere.

637
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 5: Yeah. The time when I was meeting with you, we

638
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,279
were getting ready to go into Texas. They had me

639
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,839
fly to Texas.

640
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Speaker 4: To tell my story.

641
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 5: And when I got to the airport, my flight was canceled.

642
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,440
They pretend they didn't know, you know how that happened.

643
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,720
Told me to read buy my ticket. So I had

644
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,480
to read buy my ticket during the time when all

645
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:24,759
my money was tied up in probate, buy my ticket.

646
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: To get there and never saw that money again.

647
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the That's what I'm curious about is how

648
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:32,839
much money they collected on that front. As you guys

649
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:34,240
are going around the country and I know that, you

650
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:37,480
know my friend and our common friends got Shara. You

651
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:41,119
know he has appealed his case. He has a book

652
00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:44,119
coming out. I can't talk much about it. I have

653
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:47,480
a pre print. No, I just learned about it. I

654
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:50,680
probably shouldn't have said that, got Yeah, well I probably should.

655
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:50,799
Speaker 2: Have said that.

656
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:52,759
Speaker 1: But then again, at least it's a little bit of

657
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,960
free promotion on this. The closing question for you in

658
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,680
a second, it's kind of a tough question. I'll run

659
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,400
this by you second, Stacey, And again a link to

660
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the gifts send goes below.

661
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:03,519
Speaker 2: And this is an efforts.

662
00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:05,799
Speaker 1: I mean, we want to go after this attorney, right

663
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,960
in addition to making sure that if we can get

664
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,639
a criminal investigation in this, we want a criminal investigation,

665
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,679
an investigation. We don't want to let the fight go

666
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,320
because in my judgment, Ryan was medically murdered. But I

667
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,599
have a tough question for you about that. In a second, Okay,

668
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,639
did you get a chance yet to go watch?

669
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: Thank you? Doctor? Fauci.

670
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: The more I think about that film and the conclusions

671
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:34,199
it's reached, the more I understand why no one wants

672
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:39,360
to talk about it. Jenner first, the director. He is

673
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an award winning director. He's got a long history. He

674
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worked with some of the most powerful people in Hollywood

675
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,079
to put this together. I didn't know that until I

676
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,800
chat with him. Some of the biggest names in Hollywood

677
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,880
backed this thing. And the conclusion they came out with is,

678
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,760
you want to talk rigged game. A guy Tony.

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Speaker 2: Fauci for forty years.

680
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: Is responsible, in their estimation, for in his labs, the

681
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,320
labs used to run, is responsible for all the pandemics

682
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,639
during that time. That's the that's their analysis, create the problem,

683
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,400
charge people for the cure. So much worse than that, though.

684
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,480
They contend that we are the victims of Chinese spies

685
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,599
working against us in a bioterror race, but inconveniently not

686
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:31,719
Chinese spies, spies for the Chinese Commist Party working against us,

687
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But inconveniently they're American citizens with a lot of power

688
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,000
who are also working against the Chinese government as double

689
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agents for us. We're in a bio terror race with

690
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the Chinese Commonist Party.

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Speaker 2: In fact, she.

692
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Speaker 1: Knew these things and hid these things. So it's an

693
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:52,440
extraordinary movie that actually takes The movie is a movie

694
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,559
within a movie. You're watching them make the movie, and

695
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:57,119
what's cool about that is you're watching them ract lifetime

696
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,559
to research and then watching Jenner go through the halls

697
00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:03,760
of Congress to try to get someone.

698
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: To actually look.

699
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:09,039
Speaker 1: At the evidence that Fauci is a psychopathic killer. And

700
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:12,480
it's very frustrating but very illuminating. It's called Thank You,

701
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,599
Doctor Fauci. You canstrum it right now at angel dot

702
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:18,719
com slash Herman. That's Angel dot com slash Herman. Don't

703
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,719
just stream the movie. Become a member of the guild

704
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,880
and you get to vote for more movies like this

705
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,559
to be made. Angel dot com slash Herman. Here's a

706
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:28,920
tough question, Stacey. Do you wish that you had ridden

707
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,119
heard over this guy and then all over him and

708
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:35,199
looking at every piece of paperwork and double checking it

709
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,559
and basically acting as your own attorney.

710
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Speaker 2: With an attorney.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I definitely regret trusting him, that's for sure,

712
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,719
because it ruined my chance to be heard and bring

713
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,000
my evidence to the court.

714
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: And look at the YouTube channel, by the way, for

715
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,639
the evidence and tell me that this wouldn't have gone

716
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:52,000
to court.

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00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,119
Speaker 2: Just go look at her.

718
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: There's a link to Stacy's YouTube channel. You go look

719
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,400
at this and tell me that a judge wouldn't have

720
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,840
fun a way to get this like heard, sorry Stacey?

721
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because I mean they they documented that he

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refused the vent, that that was documented, and yet they

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set him up.

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Speaker 4: For it and then it was faulty. It was a

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faulty event. They knew it. I mean, you're causing more

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harm than what he went in for.

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Speaker 1: So do you wish that you'd take in say, no,

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I need to see what day am I going to

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see the complaint?

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Speaker 2: When will I get to review it for accuracy?

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Speaker 1: Do you wish that you had really, as I said,

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just you know, managed this guy written hurt on top

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of the process.

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Speaker 6: Oh me.

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Speaker 5: Hindsight, Yeah, but at the time, you know, you're trusting

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that an attorney knows what they're doing.

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Speaker 4: And it's the same thing like you know, you.

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Speaker 5: Trust that doctors are medically trained and that you would

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know you know that you would have right still in

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the hospital.

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Speaker 4: So everything is hindsight. But even then, even if I

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was on top of him.

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Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I'm taking him his word, like did

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you I there's emails where I'm asking him, hey, did

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you file an intent to sue? Notice in Michigan we

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need an intent to sue and he says yes. Yet

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you see in our transcript that he didn't do that

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properly either, anythough he told me it was done. So,

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I mean, there was like a lot of times when

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I was even talking to Scott Shara and even saying,

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because Scott Sara almost got the same attorney too, except

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for I refer the first one to him that he

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knows his attorney was the first one I was gonna

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go with.

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Speaker 4: So I I.

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Speaker 5: Was talking to Scott and I just said, you know,

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I don't know, am I just is it paranoia?

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Speaker 4: Or am I doing? Is he doing everything right? But

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we were stuck. You know at that point you're gotting

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neck deep in it. What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 5: And you're trusting his word that he's saying, yes, everything

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is fine, we're good, We're all great. You know, this

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is beautiful complaint and YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 4: In your year, you.

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Speaker 5: Believe Okay, yeah, they got this, especially someone who comes

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in the name of God and acting like you know,

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they were doing God's work and God's mission and were

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staying that to a bunch of Christians who are gonna,

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you know, be receptive to that.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's like it was target targeted.

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Speaker 1: So what do you hope to do against this attorney?

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I mean, disbarments, you know, criminal complaints. What do you

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intend to do against this guy?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think there should be some accountability for what

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was taken from Ryan, and not even just Ryan, but

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all the widows. And if I can be that voice

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for all the widows that were affected, and some of them,

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I mean not all of them are widows. Some of

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them lost parents or lost other people, but just the

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vast majority were widows or widowers. And so if there

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can be some justice to hold accountability for what was stolen,

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because it was we were revictimized twice. Not only do

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we trust medical people, but then we trusted a law

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firm to represent us and have our voices have a

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chance to be heard.

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Speaker 4: Nothing is a guarantee when we.

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Speaker 5: Know that, but damn it, try try for us and

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actually put an effort in there to have our voices heard,

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because had all this evidence been brought forward into a court.

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Speaker 4: Who knows where it.

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Speaker 5: Could have went, you know, from there much so instead

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of having us have to start all over again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Just like we were just money to the hospital. It

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feels like we were just money to that law firm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so if they are, I know there are lawyers

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watching and are listening, and you know how to get

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a bar complaint, please help Stacy with that. I know

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this guy violated professional code of ethics and in canon

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of ethics.

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Speaker 2: I know that.

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Speaker 1: And if you know a way to get that in

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front of the licensing boards and the bar associations, I

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ask you to do that. I know the bar Association's

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body in on the on the Fausci protocols. I know that,

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but they can't all be okay with actions like this.

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If you're in law enforcement and you're in Stacey, State

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of Michigan, and you concur that this is criminal, look,

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donate some time if it's If it's not money, it

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might be that your time is more valuable and help

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her get this actually heard in front of a jury

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and seen in front of a jury. Because the massive

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amounts of evidence you can see at her YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: So Stacy again.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry this has happened to you again, and I

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appreciate you getting with us. And I want to just

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apologize to people who donated to help this case. Not

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because I don't believe in Stacy, I do, but because

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of what this law firm peers to have done, according

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to Stacy, and I feel bad for that.

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for that. So, Stacy, I.

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Speaker 5: Was gonna say, all the money that was raised was

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told to go to the widows.

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Speaker 4: And now she.

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Speaker 5: Listening to the second time I've been on your show

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with them, Damon mentioned it. We haven't talked about how

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that money was to go to the victims, but when

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everything was done with our case, we were just told

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that money was all gone and we don't know where

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that money went.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I have a guess as to where it went. Well, Stacy,

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God be with you. You're a brave warrior. And I

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know God has Ryan in his embrace and he walks

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with Jesus, and in that I know you guys will

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be reunited.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you coming on, Stacy.

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Speaker 5: Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to the Perth. This is the Todd Herman Show.

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Speaker 1: Please go be well, be strong, be kind, and please

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make every effort to walk in the light of Christ,

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and I know I intend to give my wife, my

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beloved wife, a special hugger to get home.

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Speaker 2: Given this content of the show today