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Speaker 2: Guy, Billy Cunningham, the great American. What a consequential few
Speaker 2: days it's been, and I think the next few days
Speaker 2: might even be better. I call them the four horsemen
Speaker 2: of the Apocalypse. Good things happening in this country. Number one,
Speaker 2: of course, the Olympic are coming here next year in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. We have the World Cup coming next year
Speaker 2: or shall I say this year, all over the country.
Speaker 2: And then we have an American pope, which is almost impossible.
Speaker 2: Then we have Donald Trump in charge of the presidency
Speaker 2: instead of Kamala Harris. You take the Pope and Trump
Speaker 2: and the World Cup and the Olympics, make America great again.
Speaker 2: There it is for all who have eyes to see
Speaker 2: and ears to hear. It's happening. And I know at
Speaker 2: this point the Left is trying to hijack the papacy
Speaker 2: of Leo the fourteenth. There's Pete Rose's number again, fourteen,
Speaker 2: Leo the fourteenth, and eye for one will have none
Speaker 2: of it. If you want to see something spectacular, I
Speaker 2: saw it on X Shall I say Twitter? This last
Speaker 2: couple of days, you know, there's some dispute. The Cubs
Speaker 2: wanted to claim the new Pope their own by putting
Speaker 2: a little billboard up saying a fan of the Chicago Cubs.
Speaker 2: And then someone took the time to go back to
Speaker 2: the twenty oh five World Series between the White Sox
Speaker 2: and at that point in the National League, the Houston Astronomicals.
Speaker 2: They were in the National League twenty years ago, and
Speaker 2: they had one of those shots as a Fox or
Speaker 2: the rest of them are apt to do in between pitches,
Speaker 2: and they simply want to get a fan reaction at
Speaker 2: this case at Kimiski Park. And if you google Leo
Speaker 2: the fourteenth World Series, Kmisky Park, there is the Pope
Speaker 2: in twenty oh five, some twenty years ago in the
Speaker 2: stands at Komisky Park with his brother and his nephew
Speaker 2: cheering on the Chicago White Sox, who, by the way,
Speaker 2: in twenty oh five they did win the World Series
Speaker 2: because the future pope was in the house. Incredible, a
Speaker 2: future pope, Robert Francis Prevost, who was born in nineteen
Speaker 2: fifty five, is now the Pope, and everyone said he fits.
Speaker 2: He check marks every requirement of the papacy, including age
Speaker 2: sixty nine years old. Believe it or not, that's somewhat
Speaker 2: young for a pope. For the first time in my life,
Speaker 2: a pope is younger than me. Never had that happen before.
Speaker 2: Maybe we're getting younger pope, so I'm getting older one
Speaker 2: of the other. And so we had that happening nineteen
Speaker 2: fifty five. He spent most of his young adult life
Speaker 2: in and around Chicago or Philadelphia. He's a great fan
Speaker 2: by the way of the Philadelphia Eagles. And who won
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl in February, That'd be the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2: He attends a White Sox game. Who wins the World
Speaker 2: Series in twenty oh five, that'd be the Chicago White Sox,
Speaker 2: and good lord, do they need help now. He goes
Speaker 2: from high school, where he was a mathematic genius on
Speaker 2: the Villanova the home of the Wildcats. They may never
Speaker 2: lose another game by the way the Wildcats. Villanova's won
Speaker 2: what three national titles Villanova. Everywhere this guy goes, great
Speaker 2: things occur and received a master in theology eighty four
Speaker 2: when he was not quite thirty years old, it received
Speaker 2: a doctorate in canon law, and then from that point
Speaker 2: on he wanted to be a missionary. He saw himself
Speaker 2: as helping the poorest among the poor. And at that point,
Speaker 2: when he was twenty nine thirty years old, guess what
Speaker 2: a few people that's seen him as a future pope.
Speaker 2: Believe it or not. There's this school teacher when he
Speaker 2: was six years old that looked at Bob and said,
Speaker 2: that boy right there is going to be a pope
Speaker 2: six years old. Nonetheless, so he spends most of the
Speaker 2: next fifteen to sixteen years in and around Peru as
Speaker 2: a bishop among the poorest of the poor. He then
Speaker 2: goes up the ladder of be classical of success in Rome.
Speaker 2: Then in twenty twenty three, Francis elevates him to be
Speaker 2: a cardinal. And they've been friends for a long time,
Speaker 2: one from Argentina, one from Peru, and one couldnot imagine
Speaker 2: a more unlikely fate then to have this white Sox
Speaker 2: fan cheering on the White Sox and twenty oh five.
Speaker 2: Google it, it's there. I'm watching it. Unbelievable. It's one
Speaker 2: of those three or four second cuts. They wanted a
Speaker 2: happy white Sox fan, and they happened to Fox Sports.
Speaker 2: Happens to put the camera on Robert Francis Prevost, also
Speaker 2: known as Leo the Fourteenth. Unbelievable. Could not be happier.
Speaker 2: And we'll see what happens the next twenty to thirty years.
Speaker 2: He's going to be in the papacy for a long
Speaker 2: long time. And right now the left is trying to
Speaker 2: claim him as their own by talking about a tweet
Speaker 2: that someone in his name put out a few months
Speaker 2: back against JD. Vance, who, by the ways of practicing
Speaker 2: Roman Catholic, and I mean a real practicing Roman Catholic
Speaker 2: who attends my church. He converted to my church in
Speaker 2: Madeira St. Saint Gertrude's, but not the so called Joe Biden,
Speaker 2: a devout Roman Catholic, not exactly. And he had one
Speaker 2: quote to JD that said, quote, JD Vance is wrong.
Speaker 2: Jesus does not ask us to rank our love for others.
Speaker 2: And it's absurd to take that comment and make it
Speaker 2: a woke pope, which is even some like Lord Luma
Speaker 2: Lumer on the right ones to do Orthodox Catholics. So
Speaker 2: he's going to be happy to learn that this pope
Speaker 2: is strongly pro life, and he's pro family, and he
Speaker 2: spent a good chunk of his life in a capitalistic society.
Speaker 2: He recognizes that everyone's lifted as the tide rises, and
Speaker 2: he has an American orientation no pope has ever had.
Speaker 2: In fact, we've had a pope to speak English since
Speaker 2: Justinian about a thousand years ago. And that's the it'll be.
Speaker 2: It'll be incredible when he comes back to America. At
Speaker 2: some point. He was invited there by the President of
Speaker 2: Villanova yesterday when they exchanged emails, invited him to be
Speaker 2: the graduation speaker. He said he's not sure he can
Speaker 2: do that. I also would note that on Friday, Uh,
Speaker 2: he's one of three boys. He's the youngest of the three.
Speaker 2: One of his brothers was conducting an interview on on
Speaker 2: w g N TV and Uh, he was on a
Speaker 2: tablet and as he's conducting the interview, the phone, the
Speaker 2: phone number indicates brother Bob is calling. That that Bob
Speaker 2: that on on Friday was the Pope. So so his
Speaker 2: older brother. So I better take this call and he
Speaker 2: answers the call and it was the Pope. And the
Speaker 2: first thing he said, uh to his brother Bob, was hey, Bobby, Uh,
Speaker 2: you're on the air right now. And the Pope said
Speaker 2: what he said, Yeah, I'm conducting an interview right now.
Speaker 2: He said, I'll call you later. I assume the call
Speaker 2: was made later. And uh, unbelievable that number one and
Speaker 2: the same timeframe. The Olympics are here, the World Cup
Speaker 2: is here, the Pope is from here, and Donald Trump's
Speaker 2: in the house. I guess tomorrow flying to the Middle East.
Speaker 2: And one thing this Pope did say, quote the promotion
Speaker 2: of gender ideology is confusing because it seeks great genders
Speaker 2: that do not exist. That's the Pope in his own words.
Speaker 2: So I think we have a pope who is not liberal,
Speaker 2: not conservative, but he's religious. And also Leo the fourteenth
Speaker 2: seems to be a Republican. You said, what, well, you
Speaker 2: voted absentee, took a registered Republican ballot out of Illinois
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, which was during the Obama years. Took
Speaker 2: another Republican a sample ballot in the primary in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 2: registered a Republican. The Pope registered also in twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: as a Republican, and he voted by absentee in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four and if anything, he appears to be more
Speaker 2: of a Bush Republican than a Trump Republican. But let's
Speaker 2: face it, I don't think too many of the popes
Speaker 2: are concerned about politics whatsoever. If some progressives wanted France's
Speaker 2: Part two, they're going to be disappointed, don't be fooled.
Speaker 2: And it's because the left demand's power, the left demand's influence,
Speaker 2: the left demand's money, and their masters are deceiving people.
Speaker 2: It looks like practicing Roman Catholics have a pope in
Speaker 2: Little of the fourteenth that we can rally around. But
Speaker 2: whether you have a good pope or a bad pope,
Speaker 2: and let's face it, it's up to you whether a
Speaker 2: pope is spectacular like John Paul the Second or not
Speaker 2: so spectacular. Your eternal salvation is in your hands, not
Speaker 2: in someone else's. He said, a lot of problems going on,
Speaker 2: not the least of which is financial. The Wall Street
Speaker 2: Journal has an article about eight months ago in which
Speaker 2: it pointed out what dire financial condition the Vatican is in,
Speaker 2: and I read the article thinking, oh my gosh Leo
Speaker 2: the fourteenth has serious problems. Headline is next Pope faces
Speaker 2: financial mess. France has struggled with the cleanup and was unsuccessful.
Speaker 2: And this article details the terrible financial struggles of the
Speaker 2: Catholic Church, with the church's annual budget tripling in Pope
Speaker 2: Francis's twelve year reign, spent three hundred percent more money
Speaker 2: in those twelve years, and the pension fund in the
Speaker 2: Vatican is two billion euros unfunded. And there have been
Speaker 2: unusual financial practices in the Vatican, including seemingly the theft
Speaker 2: of a half million dollars out of a Vatican bank
Speaker 2: account stored and one of those involved stored the cash
Speaker 2: in a shopping bag. According to this article, the bank
Speaker 2: account to another concealed the funds from a senior Vatican
Speaker 2: auditing official, Cardinal George pell. Money laundering using the Vatican
Speaker 2: Bank has become ramped to the point where europe financial
Speaker 2: watchdogs are going to blacklist the Vatican Bank, and so
Speaker 2: France has brought in an outside consultant, Deloitte. I used
Speaker 2: to be Tooche. I'm not sure they're Tooche anymore. They're Deloitte,
Speaker 2: and they investigated that millions of dollars in Shenanigan's Half
Speaker 2: Millionaire Half Millionaire. Someone broke into the consultant's office, Deloitte's
Speaker 2: office and unscrewed the base of his computer, destroying a
Speaker 2: lot of public records. Archbishops have been convicted of financial
Speaker 2: fraud under Pope Francis, and has been convicted of fraud embezzlement.
Speaker 2: He's appealing it. And that guy is still a cardinal,
Speaker 2: but he couldn't vote. He was over the age of eighty.
Speaker 2: And so this pope is serious problems, but also with
Speaker 2: serious problems go serious opportunities. I'm proud tonight as I've
Speaker 2: ever been to be a practicing Roman Catholic and to
Speaker 2: have one of our own. In a sense, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure he's going to get along completely with Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: but it not required. Trump is of this world, and
Speaker 2: Leo the fourteenth prepares us for the next. We'll see
Speaker 2: what happens down the road now. Secondly, and we have
Speaker 2: three lines available as I speak, I'll take many calls
Speaker 2: tonight at eight six six six four seven seven three
Speaker 2: three seven. Secondly, Donald Trump posted about six pm tonight
Speaker 2: to be exact at six twenty two pm Eastern time, tonight,
Speaker 2: a bombshell announcement said, for many years, the world has
Speaker 2: wondered why prescriptive drugs and pharmaceuticals in America are so
Speaker 2: much higher in price they were in other nations, sometimes
Speaker 2: five to ten times greater here than in every other
Speaker 2: nation on the face of the earth. And he's going
Speaker 2: to order therefore, I'm pleased to announce the tomorrow morning,
Speaker 2: which is nine am tomorrow morning, in the White House,
Speaker 2: I'll be signing one of the most consequential executive orders
Speaker 2: in our country's history. I will demand that prescription drug
Speaker 2: and pharmaceutical prices be reduced by anywhere between thirty to
Speaker 2: eighty percent, and they will rise throughout the world in
Speaker 2: order to equalize the money, bring fairness to America. And
Speaker 2: this will save American citizens and taxpayers trillions of dollars
Speaker 2: every year away we go. I hope this works. I
Speaker 2: hope this will happen in a sense. But here's another factor.
Speaker 2: The reason the prices here are so high is because
Speaker 2: we bear the expense of research and development of new drugs,
Speaker 2: and the other world takes advantage of us. Once the
Speaker 2: drugs have been approved by the FDA as being safe
Speaker 2: and effective, then the rest of the world picks them
Speaker 2: up at pennies on the dollar. We pay everything now.
Speaker 2: I had on a pharmaceutical expert a couple of years
Speaker 2: ago from Lily, a great pharmaceutical company. It takes at
Speaker 2: least five hundred million dollars of research and development for
Speaker 2: each drug they try, five hundred million, and then one
Speaker 2: of every six or seven actually work, they're safe and effective.
Speaker 2: So five hundred million plus five hundred million plus five
Speaker 2: hundred million at them up. So the one drug that
Speaker 2: is safe and effective after R and D is done
Speaker 2: has to bear on its shoulders literally billions of dollars
Speaker 2: of research and development that the pharmaceutical companies and others
Speaker 2: put into the hopper to get to the point of
Speaker 2: having an effective drug. No other country bears the price
Speaker 2: they poach off us and the American consumer. Then, and
Speaker 2: the pharmaceutical companies to stay in business have got to collect,
Speaker 2: recollect and put in their pricing structure all the cost
Speaker 2: of all the research and development, all the employees, all
Speaker 2: the buildings, all the benefits, and mainly its research and
Speaker 2: development costs. That's got to go into one drug that
Speaker 2: works and has to bear the price of all the drugs,
Speaker 2: the billions of dollars spent of drugs that were not
Speaker 2: safe or not effective, as the American consumer pays that price,
Speaker 2: is that fair? Absolutely not. The Trumpster in about eleven
Speaker 2: hours is going to say the price of these drugs
Speaker 2: will equalize and rise throughout the world. Our country will
Speaker 2: finally be treated fairly, and our citizens healthcare costs will
Speaker 2: be reduced by numbers no one ever thought of. Now,
Speaker 2: what's going to be the first thing that happens about
Speaker 2: nine o two am tomorrow morning Eastern time. Lawsuits. The
Speaker 2: pharmaceutical companies will file lawsuits, others saying a president cannot
Speaker 2: fix prices. And I get that point, but why we
Speaker 2: bear the expense, all the expense and the rest of
Speaker 2: the world doesn't is despicable and it's wrong. Just one
Speaker 2: little thing I hope the Trumpster can do tomorrow. Let
Speaker 2: the lawsuits commence in a way we go. Let's take
Speaker 2: short break and set up tonight's BAK show. I want
Speaker 2: to get your feelings first of all, about the election,
Speaker 2: the selection of Leo the fourteenth, a White Sox fan
Speaker 2: and a Philadelphia Eagles fan. Wherever he goes, good things
Speaker 2: happen to teams around him. It's unbelievable. I wish in
Speaker 2: a sense he could become a fan of the Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be great? But nonetheless, when he attend a
Speaker 2: White Sox game to win the World Series, when he
Speaker 2: goes to Eagles games at Villanova, eventually they win a
Speaker 2: few Super Bowls. Now he's pope and as human as
Speaker 2: he can be, and I could not be more pleased.
Speaker 2: Want to get your reaction to this, but also to
Speaker 2: what the President is going to do tomorrow. Also, what's
Speaker 2: happening now in the Middle East. What's happening with a
Speaker 2: Moss allegedly an American hostage the last American hostage, guy
Speaker 2: named Dan Alexander's going to be released sometime soon, maybe
Speaker 2: tonight or tomorrow. A Moss, a bunch of killers allegedly
Speaker 2: going to release nineteen year old Eaton Alexander. He's been
Speaker 2: locked up five hundred and eighty one days, tortured repeatedly,
Speaker 2: supposedly going to be released soon as a gesture of
Speaker 2: good will. They're an evil death cult, and the only
Speaker 2: way to deal with that has arranged the meeting between
Speaker 2: them and those seventy two virgins. Let's continue with more
Speaker 2: eight six six six four seven, seven three three seven.
Speaker 2: Bill Cunningham, the Great American, with you every Sunday night.
Speaker 2: I Bellie cunning Him, the Great American. Let's continue full
Speaker 2: lines of course eight six six six four seven seven
Speaker 2: three three seven. Big things happening, A lot of work
Speaker 2: to be done, today's lot. I got up this morning,
Speaker 2: went to Massa yesterday at four point thirty, had just joy,
Speaker 2: just happiness.
Speaker 3: The guy.
Speaker 2: We have the right pope at the right time. He
Speaker 2: gave an interview about two or three years ago in
Speaker 2: which he said, look, God knows who the next pope is.
Speaker 2: It is our job to hear his call. We don't
Speaker 2: pick the pope. It is revealed to us and then
Speaker 2: we act accordingly. And each time, at least in my lifetime,
Speaker 2: we've had the right pope at the right time. He said,
Speaker 2: which John Paul the second was needed from Poland, and
Speaker 2: after that Benediction was needed from Germany. Then he said,
Speaker 2: after that Francis was needed from Argentina. And at that
Speaker 2: point he wasn't the pope. In fact that I'm not
Speaker 2: sure even was a cardinal at that point. He was
Speaker 2: just elevated. About a year and a half ago by
Speaker 2: Francis to that particular post sixty nine years old. He's
Speaker 2: likely has a twenty year run in this when he
Speaker 2: comes to America. I've been told that he's going to
Speaker 2: have to wait because he speaks English, he speaks Spanish,
Speaker 2: he speaks speaks Portuguese, he speaks French, and he speaks Italian,
Speaker 2: and he can read Latin and Chinese. So as a consequence,
Speaker 2: he checks every box that you like a pope to
Speaker 2: be able to communicate with. He's the first English speaking pope.
Speaker 2: And over a thousand years we had a guy named
Speaker 2: Justinian a thousand years ago from England. I assume he
Speaker 2: spoke English. Probably we wouldn't understand it today, but he
Speaker 2: spoke English. So this is spectacular. It's unbelievable. Well, let's
Speaker 2: continue with more and later on with talk about a
Speaker 2: guest or two we have coming up in including the
Speaker 2: Great Yuri Kaufman about his analysis of the President's trip
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday to the Middle East, and
Speaker 2: will there be big pow wow involving Israel and amass
Speaker 2: and or Iran. We will see ten twenty nine go
Speaker 2: cunning into Great American with you and all great Americans
Speaker 2: every Sunday night.
Speaker 4: To the world.
Speaker 2: Who uses American prescriptive drugs and diagnostic tools and techniques
Speaker 2: bear the cost of their development?
Speaker 5: On?
Speaker 2: Yes, how do we make that system happen? Number one?
Speaker 2: Could it cause the literal bankruptcy of America's drug and
Speaker 2: pharmaceutical companies? I don't know yet. He announced this at
Speaker 2: six fifteen pm to night at nine o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 2: is going to order that the cost of these drugs
Speaker 2: go down by many, many times, by eighty ninety percent.
Speaker 2: And the cost structure of whether it's Wyeth or lily
Speaker 2: whatever is based upon returning your investment, and that the
Speaker 2: one successful drug's got to bear the price the cost
Speaker 2: of all the failures. That costs hundreds of millions of
Speaker 2: dollars per failed drug. I'd take two or three drugs,
Speaker 2: would like to pay a lot less. Absolutely so. I
Speaker 2: think those who use them in Europe and South America
Speaker 2: and which abanned Korea, Yes, they should pay their fair share. Now,
Speaker 2: how do you make them do it? Only the Trumps
Speaker 2: that can make this happen. Let's continue now, we'll take
Speaker 2: some calls, talk about what's coming up later, including I've
Speaker 2: had a lot of requests for this guest. I hit
Speaker 2: them on about two or three years ago. Mark Meckler,
Speaker 2: which is the State con the State Convention guy Article
Speaker 2: five that says in the constitution that if two thirds
Speaker 2: of the state's elect to have a brand new constitutional convention,
Speaker 2: if two thirds of the state call for one, it's
Speaker 2: gonna happen. So I want to get to Mark Meckler's
Speaker 2: why it's required. I know it's gaining steam. Then also
Speaker 2: later on we have doctor MASSELLI do no harm. I
Speaker 2: may pick up with him the idea of what do
Speaker 2: we do with pharmaceutical expenses that are so much less now?
Speaker 2: If Trump is successful, of course, the first thing is
Speaker 2: going to happen is the pharmaceutical companies will be in
Speaker 2: front of a Obama federal judge that issues an injunction.
Speaker 2: Here we go. So, I don't know, can the president
Speaker 2: fix the price of drugs? I'm talking about pharmaceutical drugs
Speaker 2: developed by private businesses. What they cost, structure, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know everyone should bear the costs of these miracle drugs,
Speaker 2: and right now only we're bearing the cost 's continue
Speaker 2: with more. Once again, the number of call is eight
Speaker 2: sixty six six four seven seven three three seven, And
Speaker 2: let's go to Bill and Quincy, Massachusetts. And Bill in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: How you doing, Yeah, go ahead, you're very pig thank
Speaker 2: you tell you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we should have Elon go to the Vatican, goes
Speaker 4: What do.
Speaker 2: You think, Well, you know, certainly he's had measure impacts
Speaker 2: here in the country. To watch the interview he and
Speaker 2: his team, if done with Hannity and with Jesse Waters,
Speaker 2: is fabulous to look at these guys donating their time
Speaker 2: without any taxpayer expense, just save hundreds of billions of dollars.
Speaker 2: Even sixty minutes Tonight picked up on it that there's
Speaker 2: criminal gangs in China and Iran and in North Korea
Speaker 2: that built the taxpayer out of billions of dollars of
Speaker 2: every year. And yes, we need something in Vatican City
Speaker 2: is no different than any other organization. I read somewhere
Speaker 2: that's seventy percent of us given an opportunity wi steal money,
Speaker 2: we would count me in the category that would not
Speaker 2: steal money. But I would hope the religious and the
Speaker 2: Vatican have a different calling. But it looks like at
Speaker 2: leaks like a sieve, and I hope Leo can get
Speaker 2: control of it.
Speaker 3: Yes, and that pull tracks is a lot for it.
Speaker 4: He spent so much money, man and sorrows, and those
Speaker 4: people are sat in the sea up government.
Speaker 2: GEO keeps track of government spending. And in March of
Speaker 2: last year, in April of last year, in each month
Speaker 2: we borrowed as taxpayers about about two hundred billion dollars
Speaker 2: a month. Uh, well, we borrow about two trillion dollars.
Speaker 2: March and April was bad, and the last March in April,
Speaker 2: thank God of Joe Biden. And this March, instead of
Speaker 2: two hundred billion being borrowed, the number was thirty seven billion.
Speaker 2: And they're trying to figure out why, how come the
Speaker 2: government is running more lean? How come this is the
Speaker 2: cost and they don't know if it's going to remain
Speaker 2: because you might recall the Trumpster had all these buyout packages,
Speaker 2: and so I don't know. In April was the same
Speaker 2: low number. Of course, we borrow every year about two
Speaker 2: trillion dollars. And so far in the first what h February, March,
Speaker 2: in April, the first three full months of the Trump administration,
Speaker 2: there might have been one hundred billion dollars barred total
Speaker 2: for all three months instead of six hundred billion now
Speaker 2: how long are that we can continue? I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's more news tonight as I sit here that AMASA
Speaker 2: has announced again than eaton Alexander, the nineteen year old
Speaker 2: American citizen as a gesture of goodwill, having been tortured
Speaker 2: for five hundred and eighty one days. It's going to
Speaker 2: be released imminently. So right now in the Middle East,
Speaker 2: it's approximately five thirty nine am, So maybe by the
Speaker 2: time I get off there, he'll be released. We'll see
Speaker 2: what happens. Let's continue now with Patrick in North Carolina,
Speaker 2: the home of the tar Heels, that a lot of.
Speaker 4: People are not understanding that there are like usaid. I've
Speaker 4: got a letter from Eric Smith, Senator in Missouri, and
Speaker 4: it's signed by five other senators including Ted Cruz, Josh Howley,
Speaker 4: Marshall Blackburn, and two others, and it was an attack.
Speaker 4: It was sent to the president of the American Bar Association,
Speaker 4: and it was a scathing, long letter with all the
Speaker 4: receipts because it was found out that, you know, people
Speaker 4: wonder why why the judicial is so corrupt? Why is
Speaker 4: the theme that everything gets past happens to help attorneys
Speaker 4: and protect judges and so forth? Well, it turns out
Speaker 4: USAID has been funding the American Bar Association to the
Speaker 4: tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, including Title four D,
Speaker 4: which is I think four point six billion dollars of
Speaker 4: Title four D was going back to state and a
Speaker 4: lot of that money found its way into the pensions
Speaker 4: of disre court judges who were creating a massive child
Speaker 4: support system, destroying American families and destroying children's lives. And
Speaker 4: it's just not a story that's being told enough, and billions,
Speaker 4: billions of dollars of being spent to protect basically, it's
Speaker 4: another it's just a larger cash for kids, kids for
Speaker 4: cash debacle that was going on in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Patrick accurate. It was a government funded of the Democratic
Speaker 2: liberal elites to keep them in power. And whether it's
Speaker 2: the ABA or the AM, I have an expert coming
Speaker 2: up later tonight, Doctor Kurt Masselli talks about what the
Speaker 2: AM does when it comes to discrimination, when it comes
Speaker 2: to DEI and the ABA has been funded largely by
Speaker 2: small contributions of weed lawyers, but largely through USAID and
Speaker 2: mechanisms such as the two billion dollars given to Stacy
Speaker 2: Abrams and Georgia to assist homes getting insulation and refrigerators,
Speaker 2: and she simply spends the money on cars, travel, five
Speaker 2: Star travel, whatever it is. And it's a funding mechanism
Speaker 2: the taxpayers have done to elect Democrats and that's been broken.
Speaker 2: And I look forward. I would hope Patrick that the
Speaker 2: media and maybe Dan Bongino and others in the FBI
Speaker 2: would indict these individuals for wirefraud, massive lawlessness, and if
Speaker 2: the ABA is brought down as an attorney, that's okay
Speaker 2: with me. They're a left wing radical organization. And I
Speaker 2: would point out the last two weeks, Justices Jackson and
Speaker 2: Soda Mayor have spoken before bar groups encouraging them to
Speaker 2: be more proactive ensuing the Trump administration. Is that the
Speaker 2: role of a Supreme Court justice to be in front
Speaker 2: of lawyer groups encouraging lawsuits that they're going to rule on.
Speaker 4: No, I don't get that. You know what's interesting because
Speaker 4: in the county in North Carolina that I'm in when
Speaker 4: I went and pulled the lever for Donald Trump in
Speaker 4: the last election, there were I've got a particular case
Speaker 4: on and there were five of the judges, five of
Speaker 4: the liberal Democrat judges that have been involved in my case.
Speaker 4: It's a horrifically corrupt case. They were all on the
Speaker 4: ballot of all of the district court judges that I
Speaker 4: could potentially elect. All of them were a part of
Speaker 4: this except for one. There were zero, get this, there
Speaker 4: were zero people running against these liberal Democrats. There wasn't
Speaker 4: even a lever to pull. Nobody listed other than liberal
Speaker 4: Democrats getting put back in power.
Speaker 2: Patrick. The ABA is rife with left wing radical politics,
Speaker 2: and the funding mechanisms has been the taxpayer. It's not
Speaker 2: the dues, and it's the taxpayer funding the American bar
Speaker 2: and the American Medical Association. And as I said before,
Speaker 2: if we go back the other direction in four years
Speaker 2: and I don't know who's governor Pritzer is going to
Speaker 2: be the president or Gavin Newsom, we can't go ying
Speaker 2: and yang back because all that money is going to
Speaker 2: flow back into these liberal groups. To keep the Democrats
Speaker 2: in power. We need eight to twelve years. We need jd. Vance,
Speaker 2: Marco Rubio, somebody after the Trump start to carry this forward.
Speaker 2: It can't go back the other direction. Otherwise we go
Speaker 2: back and forth and they're going to double their money
Speaker 2: to the ABA and double their money to interest groups,
Speaker 2: to have kickbacks to the Democratic Party, and it's illegal.
Speaker 2: And I hope FBI director. I hope Dan Bongino, I
Speaker 2: hope Pam Bondy, I kind of hope. I hope they
Speaker 2: pursue these things. I have hope. All I have right now,
Speaker 2: all I have Patrick now is hope. That's all I
Speaker 2: have is hope.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I barely have that. It's about judicial accountability, and
Speaker 4: unfortunately there is none. Right we know there's no judicial accountability.
Speaker 4: So right now it's just a rogue. It's a rogue
Speaker 4: part of our government. And I don't know how it
Speaker 4: gets pulled on her control apart from exposure. Exposure, But
Speaker 4: that's part of the reason I'm calling in. It's like
Speaker 4: the exposure of what is going on, even at local levels.
Speaker 4: People don't know that. I mean, it's right now, over half,
Speaker 4: over half of America's children we're living in a country
Speaker 4: what three hundred and thirty million were Over half of
Speaker 4: our children do not live with their biological father. And Philislaffley,
Speaker 4: you know, the great Phillis Slaffley, one of our best
Speaker 4: female politicians we've ever had. Back in the eighties or nineties,
Speaker 4: she said, if title four D and all this stuff
Speaker 4: goes through. She she goes, we will create a fatherless America.
Speaker 4: And she was spot on. And now her I think
Speaker 4: the person that runs her organization is a Trump, a
Speaker 4: top Trump policymaker. So we've got a little bit of
Speaker 4: hope in that, and that there's some people at there,
Speaker 4: at the very top of the food chain that knows
Speaker 4: just how bad it is.
Speaker 2: Patrick. I've asked teachers this, if you're in the public
Speaker 2: school system, how often do you have a conference, a
Speaker 2: parent teacher conference in which no parents show up or
Speaker 2: if father shows up? Extremely rare? And I said to
Speaker 2: this twenty eight year teachers in a union, teachers union,
Speaker 2: I said, well, what are the odds of a first
Speaker 2: grader being living in the home of that person's male
Speaker 2: or female mother and father. The mother and father were
Speaker 2: married when they had the child. The mother and father
Speaker 2: have been together the entire eighteen years of grade school
Speaker 2: and middle school and high school. They've never had one.
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen anymore that we don't have intact families,
Speaker 2: and families are the foundation of democracy, passing on the
Speaker 2: requirements and skills, especially with boys boys without fathers. In fact,
Speaker 2: you go to prisons. Great majority there have no family structure,
Speaker 2: no fathers. Great majority have worthless high school certificates that
Speaker 2: mean nothing. The great majority live in the world that
Speaker 2: you and I would not even recognize. Now, how do
Speaker 2: you change that? It took us about forty years to
Speaker 2: get here, It will take us forty years to get out.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how how we do it. If
Speaker 2: we elect Democrats up and down the ladder, and if
Speaker 2: the ABA continually is encouraging by Supreme Court Justices Jackson
Speaker 2: and Soda Mayor who decide cases to keep suing to
Speaker 2: stop the implementation of these policies, these eos by Donald
Speaker 2: Trump would go back the other direction with Gavin Nissim
Speaker 2: or Pritzer or god forbid, Kamala Harris or Tim Waltz
Speaker 2: as the president in twenty twenty eight. We're done because
Speaker 2: I said in twenty four we can't. We can't live
Speaker 2: like this, can't do it.
Speaker 4: There's two things that I think that can be done.
Speaker 4: That it's grassroots, but it's you know, this government is
Speaker 4: you know, we the people, right, and so this government
Speaker 4: by the people for the people. If if there was
Speaker 4: legislation number one, if there was legislation produced that defined
Speaker 4: domestic child trafficking, right, which is with these courts and
Speaker 4: and cps and and all of these you know, child
Speaker 4: protective agencies, they are awful, right, the vast majority of them.
Speaker 4: But if there was a domestic child trafficking legal definition,
Speaker 4: that would allow people to actually hold some of these
Speaker 4: people accountable. Because now there's this legal definition, and while
Speaker 4: they're and here's the thing, domestic child trafficking, why does
Speaker 4: the larger global trafficking go so unnoticed? People just kind
Speaker 4: of like, Okay, yeah, it's kind of going on or something.
Speaker 4: If you don't care about the child they got trafficked
Speaker 4: in our court system that was across the street from you,
Speaker 4: you're not going to care about some kid and Honduras
Speaker 4: that you're never going to meet, right, So they're tied together,
Speaker 4: the money is tied together, the whole the whole issue
Speaker 4: of just demoralizing and devaluing our children, which is the
Speaker 4: it's the vast it's it's the greatest national treasure we have.
Speaker 4: But but when that's taken away, when that when that
Speaker 4: foundational truth is taken away of how important the children are,
Speaker 4: then you'll just watch them get away with their what
Speaker 4: they're getting away with. And the second piece of legislation
Speaker 4: that I'm pushing for would be a piece of legislation
Speaker 4: for the alienated abused children that when they become of
Speaker 4: a certain age, they've got a legal pathway of both
Speaker 4: lawsuits and criminal charges against the attorneys, against the judges,
Speaker 4: against court resources, and even the alienating parent. And that
Speaker 4: kind of firepower, because there's kids growing up everywhere in
Speaker 4: America today that they want their parents. And we've got
Speaker 4: fourteen fifteen thousand peer reviewed studies that prove that kids
Speaker 4: with two parents just do better. Eighty percent of incarcerations
Speaker 4: involve a single mom, household eighty percent, eighty percent.
Speaker 2: We can't continue, Wait, you can't keep doing the same
Speaker 2: thing anticipating a different result. And now we've got to run.
Speaker 2: Great call, great take Patrick, thank you. Let's continue with
Speaker 2: more and if a line becomes available. Eight sixty six
Speaker 2: six four seven seven three three seven Bill Cunningham with
Speaker 2: you Every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham, The Great American,
Speaker 2: Great Night, Great Night in America, the Olympics, the World Cup,
Speaker 2: coming Donald Trump in office, going to the Middle East.
Speaker 2: Piece is about to break out everywhere, including I guess
Speaker 2: there's a face to face meeting between the leaders of
Speaker 2: Ukraine and Russia Zelenski and Putin on Thursday that Trump
Speaker 2: is headquartering. That looks like India Pakistan ha quit fighting
Speaker 2: because of Donald Trump. And maybe the American ostg and
Speaker 2: Alexander will be released sometime tonight or tomorrow plus tomorrow
Speaker 2: morning at nine am. The President is going to demand
Speaker 2: that the pharmaceutical companies grossly lower the cost of their
Speaker 2: pharmaceuticals and require the rest of the world to help
Speaker 2: help us pay for him. Then you're going to get
Speaker 2: the new Cutter. Supposedly is going to give Donald Trump
Speaker 2: a brand new air Force one is seven forty seven
Speaker 2: eight hundred that's going to be used in service to
Speaker 2: the presidency. And we have an American pope, which is unbelievable, unlikely.
Speaker 2: Google Chicago White Sox twenty oh five Pope Leo if
Speaker 2: Fox Sports had a shot of him in the stands
Speaker 2: cheering on the White Sox in twenty oh five when
Speaker 2: he was simply a priest working in Peru, And here
Speaker 2: he is in a White Sox cheering on the White
Speaker 2: Sox that beat the Houston Astronomicals at that point Houston
Speaker 2: was in the National League, and he's also a fan
Speaker 2: of the Philadelphia Eagles, and they won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: and Villanova's won a few national titles. We have a
Speaker 2: pope from the Big East. For God's sakes. Oh no,
Speaker 2: I think make America great again. Think it's happening right now.
Speaker 2: Would you agree with me? It's happening right now. But
Speaker 2: the media wants to find the two things that might
Speaker 2: be questionable and the thousand things that are right, just
Speaker 2: the opposite one a Democrats. It's in office. They talk
Speaker 2: about the two things that are that are right and
Speaker 2: the thousand things that are wrong. They ignore those things.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump should should have approval rating right now around
Speaker 2: seventy five percent, especially if he pulls off peace in India, Pakistan,
Speaker 2: the Middle East, Ukraine? Are you kidding me? So let's
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Speaker 2: and also later on as the Great Yuri Kaufman about
Speaker 2: what's going to happen this week in the Middle East,
Speaker 2: and whether Hamas really wants peace and Iran really wants peace.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. But we'll see Phil cunning and
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Speaker 2: You know, my last guest talked about the ABA. I
Speaker 2: would also reference the AMA and what they've done. In
Speaker 2: about thirty minutes or so, Doctor Kurt Marcelli's going to
Speaker 2: be here about the UH Do No Harm dot Org,
Speaker 2: his website that talks about what it takes to get
Speaker 2: into medical school today. I know the same thing's true
Speaker 2: about law school. You have to harbor certain political beliefs.
Speaker 2: You have to sing the company song and play the
Speaker 2: company too, and otherwise you can't get in. If you
Speaker 2: get in, you won't get graage. There's certain political things
Speaker 2: you have to believe in. And the indoctrination happening is
Speaker 2: I speak by the Aba them is truly unbelievable and
Speaker 2: it's not well covered, but we're going to cover it tonight.
Speaker 2: Also later on is the course a Uri Kaufman, an
Speaker 2: expert on the Middle East, about what's going to happen
Speaker 2: this week with hamas it appears they're going to release
Speaker 2: the last American hostage. But of course I believe it
Speaker 2: when I see it. Let's continue in your calls. We
Speaker 2: have Mark and Monroe Michigan, and then Bethany and Detroit
Speaker 2: and so many others and Mark and Monroe, Wisconsin. I'm sorry, Mark,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Mark, how are you?
Speaker 5: I'm fine. How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2: Great night to be an American? Give me a full report.
Speaker 5: Okay, here we go. I think, first of all, it's
Speaker 5: interesting to note that not only Pope Leo was a
Speaker 5: white Sox fan, but so was h Rock Hussein Obama.
Speaker 2: Great point. I'll give the popa pass. I won't give
Speaker 2: up Obama pass on anything. But the guy was born
Speaker 2: on the South side of Chicago, and so if you're
Speaker 2: on the south side of Chicago. You know, you're a
Speaker 2: white Sox fan the north side the Cubs. But he's
Speaker 2: also a Philadelphia Eagles fan and they win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: What can I say?
Speaker 5: Illanosa quite an interesting scenario. But my main point is
Speaker 5: is I getting over to Dean Bongino.
Speaker 2: I love that guy.
Speaker 5: I think he is so much dirt on the whole
Speaker 5: J six situation and including Kamala Harris in that whole
Speaker 5: uh Parkside pipe bomb scenario. I'm just I'm just waiting
Speaker 5: for them to finally expose that thing because I think
Speaker 5: it's so detrimental into what's coming down the pike. Because
Speaker 5: if they don't, if they don't expose it, somebody like
Speaker 5: Ed Martin I think has already lost a major position
Speaker 5: because it didn't come to the forefront. So my concern
Speaker 5: is if they don't Again, I know there's a lot
Speaker 5: of work behind it, but there may be even more
Speaker 5: people like you know, Ed Martin that will be you know,
Speaker 5: short changed if all this stuff doesn't come to the forefront.
Speaker 2: Mark the other thing, Leticia James is a crook changed
Speaker 2: the Attorney General of the State of New York. What
Speaker 2: she's done with mortgage fraud is unbelievab well, she wants
Speaker 2: to make it a racial issue when instead it's a
Speaker 2: behavioral issue. And unfortunately for her, I think there's those
Speaker 2: in the Apartment of Justice that will believe in the
Speaker 2: old saying no one's above the law, including Letitia James,
Speaker 2: who would be tried not in New York City but
Speaker 2: rather in northern New York, which is a Republican area.
Speaker 2: So politics shouldn't play a part. And it's a paperwork case.
Speaker 2: This is what you signed, this is what you attested
Speaker 2: to under oath, and this is the lie that you told.
Speaker 2: And you can't play the race card. Is that your signature?
Speaker 2: How many dollars did you rip off the taxpayer? And
Speaker 2: you lied under oath when you said you were resident
Speaker 2: in Virginia. And whether or not you're guilty or not
Speaker 2: guilty is a document's case and not testimony. And look
Speaker 2: at the hell she put Donald Trump through. I think
Speaker 2: it's one of the reasons he's got elected. Most of
Speaker 2: the American people figured it out what the Democrats were
Speaker 2: doing to their opposition, and they couldn't take it anymore.
Speaker 2: So it boomeranged on her. But I look forward to
Speaker 2: Stacy Abrams. I look forward to Letitia James. I look
Speaker 2: forward to Fanny Willis and Nathan Wade. I look forward
Speaker 2: to maybe Smith a special prosecute. I look forward to
Speaker 2: all of it coming out. And I trust Dan Bonngino.
Speaker 2: If a year from now we know nothing about Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 2: a year from now, we know nothing about the indictment
Speaker 2: of Fanny Willis and Nathan Wade and nothing happens with
Speaker 2: THETISA James, I'd be profoundly disappointed, wouldn't you be?
Speaker 5: Absolutely And again, all those people you just mentioned, not
Speaker 5: to mention the one ma Sean he was he was
Speaker 5: touching Bundle and all that, and uh, you know Jack
Speaker 5: Jack Smith, I mean, all these guys are that criminal.
Speaker 5: And I really hope that they, uh you know, drop
Speaker 5: the hammer on these guys, because again, our whole future
Speaker 5: is uh, you know, waiting for that kind of a
Speaker 5: swing and uh what's coming down the pike. I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, if if we can do that, it would
Speaker 5: make all the difference in the world.
Speaker 2: Remember the Democrats said, no one's above the law. I
Speaker 2: guess unless you're a congressman and you want to invade
Speaker 2: an ice center in Newark, New Jersey, which is a
Speaker 2: hell hole. Newark, New Jersey, has been run by Democrats
Speaker 2: for decades. Look at the status of that country, that city.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. And they want to distract you from their
Speaker 2: failure of policy and somehow indicate that they don't have
Speaker 2: access to an ice center. All they got to do
Speaker 2: is request permission, it will be granted. You got the
Speaker 2: mayor of Newark. They guy name is Barama something like that.
Speaker 2: He's a crook and what he wants to do is
Speaker 2: become the next governor of New Jersey, which is again
Speaker 2: completely unbelievable that would happen. And I just hope these
Speaker 2: good were early on a little more than one hundred days,
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty days. And let's see what happens
Speaker 2: by this time. By next year, we should have numerous
Speaker 2: indictments and felons. After all, no one's above the law,
Speaker 2: right mark, No one's above the law, including Democrats.
Speaker 5: Well how about Chuck Schumer. That guy is always coming
Speaker 5: to the forefront belly ache about justice. And this guy
Speaker 5: can get scott free, you know, and you know, accusing
Speaker 5: Supreme Court judges and gets out scott free from all that.
Speaker 2: Well, how about Nancy Pelosi who out invested. Warren Buffett
Speaker 2: just step down as CEO of Berkshire Hathaway. I mean, Nancy,
Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi is brilliant when it comes to investing. She
Speaker 2: went in worth a little bit, comes our worth three
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars. And I don't care if you're a
Speaker 2: Republican named Mitch McConnell or if you're a Democrat like
Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi. That's called influence peddling, is insider trading, and
Speaker 2: it's illegal.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I guess if you live in, you know,
Speaker 5: a gated community and you're isolated from reality, you you know,
Speaker 5: even like with that idiot, but there's so money. I
Speaker 5: always pick one.
Speaker 2: Adam shift How about that guy, Senator Senator Adam to
Speaker 2: the House of Representatives, and Adam Shiftless is the conscious
Speaker 2: of the US Senate and the people of California. They
Speaker 2: voted for these guys. I mean, you get the government
Speaker 2: you deserve.
Speaker 5: Well, how about Corey Booker. He could stay up twenty
Speaker 5: five hours and just flabor his brains out and come
Speaker 5: up with nothing.
Speaker 2: And just a hell hole. It's a garbage dump. That's
Speaker 2: what Democrats have done. And the worst job they do,
Speaker 2: the more they get advanced. Well, we got to run.
Speaker 2: Thanks for your call. Let's continue now with let's go
Speaker 2: to Bethany and Detroit, Michigan. Bethany and Detroit, Welcome to
Speaker 2: the Bill Cunningham, Joew Bethany. How are you and give
Speaker 2: me a full report?
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm very well.
Speaker 7: And then that's what I want to bring up of
Speaker 7: where you're talking about the problems arising with the prices
Speaker 7: on drugs. Right, sir, I'm eighty six years old. I
Speaker 7: elder sit for three eighties who are biologically older than
Speaker 7: me but chronologically younger. Right, I here are my mom prayers.
Speaker 7: I've been to care there. I'm very, very familiar with
Speaker 7: sick people and so, in my opinion, based on fact
Speaker 7: and experience, one of the biggest scams going is medical
Speaker 7: care right now. If people would just listen to the
Speaker 7: other thing that Hippocrates said besides do no harm, did
Speaker 7: you know he also said food is medicine, and medicine
Speaker 7: is food and I can't here, Yeah, my three medical problems.
Speaker 7: I take care for food. I'm not going to go
Speaker 7: into detail because of me practicing medicine of our license,
Speaker 7: but doubt age related macular degeneration, and blood pressure.
Speaker 6: I got there.
Speaker 7: I'm all well under control, just with food, if we would.
Speaker 6: The biggest scam.
Speaker 7: Going, the biggest right now, and it's throughout the United
Speaker 7: States except for a few of us that are under
Speaker 7: the scam. Doctors prescribe medicine because as far as insurance,
Speaker 7: as long as you're on a prescription, they can have
Speaker 7: you every ninety days and bill you and then make
Speaker 7: your sick and give you that way. It's just disgusting,
Speaker 7: and I don't know when people are going to catch
Speaker 7: on to it.
Speaker 2: Well, bething, I'm glad you called in because tomorrow morning
Speaker 2: at nine o'clock, allegedly Donald Trump's going to do something
Speaker 2: incredibly great for the American people, which is to force
Speaker 2: the rest of the world to share and the creation
Speaker 2: of these fabulous treatments pharmaceutical drugs. And we shouldn't bear
Speaker 2: the entire price and cost. I can't tell well. Every year,
Speaker 2: the government GAO tells us, which is the Government Accounting
Speaker 2: Office of the House, between two hundred and fifty to
Speaker 2: five hundred billion dollars every year is wasted through waste, fraud,
Speaker 2: and abuse and neglect. It's an incredible amount of money.
Speaker 2: And we have the first president ever that is putting
Speaker 2: the cheese on the cracker and is going to try
Speaker 2: to find and hold those accountable, and no one ever
Speaker 2: did that before. Hell, the federal budget's gone up forty
Speaker 2: four percent since the year twenty twenty, and that there
Speaker 2: were a forty percent increase in employees in the federal government.
Speaker 2: And he's cracking that egg wide open. You can't make
Speaker 2: an omelet without cracking a few eggs, and the Trumpster's
Speaker 2: doing it and he's catching hell from everywhere. But you
Speaker 2: know the fact that food is medicine, and medicine is food.
Speaker 2: And I think Robert Kennedy Junior, the head of Health
Speaker 2: and Human Services, along with the Mega Movement for Mothers,
Speaker 2: who are saying, we can't take this anymore. We have
Speaker 2: to find out what's being done to our kids. And
Speaker 2: largely because of food stamps, et cetera. We're paying for
Speaker 2: the introduction and the body of food stuffs that injures
Speaker 2: those who and the e cards that we pay for.
Speaker 2: It's an incredible thing and we got to stop it.
Speaker 6: Yes, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 7: That's why I wanted to get to you, because the
Speaker 7: main thing I like about your program is you listen
Speaker 7: to both sides.
Speaker 6: I knew you wouldn't hang up on me.
Speaker 7: I tried calling one other program once and I got into.
Speaker 6: It part way into where I was going, and he
Speaker 6: just hung up. And then he commented on the air
Speaker 6: that you know there are cooks out there. Well, I'm
Speaker 6: not a kook. I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: At my age and taking no medication. My blood pressure
Speaker 7: hangs in around the one twenties over seventy two's, and
Speaker 7: like I said, I maybe six and I'm working full time.
Speaker 6: At three jobs.
Speaker 2: Great, God bless you. Thanks for listening. And by the way,
Speaker 2: before we before we move on here on the other side,
Speaker 2: I'm going to play for you a two minute cut
Speaker 2: that I gave to my producer, Danny boy Gleason of
Speaker 2: Donald Trump in nineteen eighty eight. You may recall Oprah Winfrey,
Speaker 2: who thinks she can't select for you presidents aunt her
Speaker 2: endorsement is the kiss of death, kind of like the
Speaker 2: Obamas of the Clinton's endorsements are kisses of death. And
Speaker 2: now I'm gonna play for you a two minute cut
Speaker 2: that Donald Trump was on Oprah as she was starting
Speaker 2: off on TV at that moment, and Donald Trump in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight described the problems in this country. And
Speaker 2: on the other side here we're going to play it
Speaker 2: for you. It's an incredible insight. That was what thirty
Speaker 2: thirty seven years ago, and that Donald Trump in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty eight is no different than the Donald Trump in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Let's continue with more twenty minutes after
Speaker 2: the hour. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. You
Speaker 2: may recall in nineteen eighty eight, the second Reagan term
Speaker 2: was concluding. The eight race had up been put together
Speaker 2: completely at that point, but Bush forty one would get
Speaker 2: the nomination. On the other side, Jesse Jackson and Michael Dukaka,
Speaker 2: we're having at it. And a businessman, a billionaire businessman
Speaker 2: from New York, appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show. His
Speaker 2: name was Donald Trump in nineteen eighty eight. So this
Speaker 2: was about what thirty thirty seven years ago. It's about
Speaker 2: two minutes long. See if you see a connection between
Speaker 2: the consistency of Donald Trump with Oprah in nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: eight and then today Danny Gleason hit it.
Speaker 8: What would you do.
Speaker 9: Differently, Donald, I'd make our allies forgetting about the enemies.
Speaker 9: The enemies you can't talk to so easily. I'd make
Speaker 9: our allies pay their fair share. We're a debtor nation.
Speaker 9: Something's going to happen over the next number of years
Speaker 9: with this country because you can't keep going on losing
Speaker 9: two hundred billion. And yet we let Japan come in
Speaker 9: and dump everything right into our markets and everything. It's
Speaker 9: not free trade. If you ever go to Japan right
Speaker 9: now and try to sell something, forget about it. Open,
Speaker 9: just forget about it. It's almost impossible. They don't have
Speaker 9: laws against it. They just make it impossible. They come
Speaker 9: over here, they sell their cars, their VCRs. They knock
Speaker 9: the hell out of our companies. And hey, I have
Speaker 9: tremendous respect for the Japanese people. I mean, you can
Speaker 9: respect somebody that's beating the hell out of you, But
Speaker 9: they are beating the hell out of this country Kuwait.
Speaker 9: They live like kings. The poorest person in Kuwait they
Speaker 9: live like kings. And yet they're not paying We make
Speaker 9: it possible for them to sell their oil. Why aren't
Speaker 9: they paying us twenty five percent of what they're making.
Speaker 9: It's a joke.
Speaker 2: This sounds like political presidential talk to me. And I
Speaker 2: know people have talked to you about whether or not
Speaker 2: you want to run?
Speaker 10: Would you ever?
Speaker 9: Probably not, But I do get tired of seeing the
Speaker 9: country reports.
Speaker 2: Why would you not?
Speaker 9: I just don't think I really have the inclination to
Speaker 9: do it. I love what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: I really like it also doesn't pay as well.
Speaker 9: But you know, I just probably wouldn't do it open.
Speaker 9: I probably wouldn't, but I do get tired of seeing
Speaker 9: what's happening with this country, And if it got so bad,
Speaker 9: I would never want to rule it out totally because
Speaker 9: I really am tired of seeing what's happening with this country,
Speaker 9: how we're really making other people live like kings and
Speaker 9: we're not.
Speaker 2: What do you think of this year's presidential race the
Speaker 2: way it's shaping.
Speaker 9: Up, Well, it's going to be very interesting. I think
Speaker 9: I think that probably George Bush has an advantage in
Speaker 9: terms of election. I think that probably people would say
Speaker 9: that he's got like that little edge in terms of
Speaker 9: the incumbency, et cetera, et cetera. But I think Jesse
Speaker 9: Jackson's done himself very proud. I think Michael Ducacus has
Speaker 9: done one hell of a job, and George Bush has
Speaker 9: done a hell of a job. You know, they all
Speaker 9: went in there sort of as semi underdogs, including George Bush,
Speaker 9: and they've all come out. I think people that are
Speaker 9: around all three of those candidates can be very proud
Speaker 9: of the jobs they've done.
Speaker 2: You've said, though, that if you did run for president,
Speaker 2: you believe you'd win.
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know. I think i'd win. I tell
Speaker 9: you what, I wouldn't go in to lose. I've never
Speaker 9: gone into losing my life, and if I did decide
Speaker 9: to do it, I think I'd be inclined. I would
Speaker 9: say that I would have a hell of a chance
Speaker 9: of winning because I think people I don't know how
Speaker 9: your audience fees, but I think people are tired of
Speaker 9: seeing the United States ripped off. And I can't promise
Speaker 9: you everything, but I can tell you one thing. This
Speaker 9: country would make one hell of a lot of money
Speaker 9: from those people that for twenty five years have taken advantage.
Speaker 9: It wouldn't be the way it's been, Believe me.
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty eight, Donald Trump with Oprah saying the same
Speaker 2: stuff he said thirty seven years ago. Today getting ripped
Speaker 2: off by the world pharmaceutical price since tomorrow morning going
Speaker 2: to go down. He's going to be in the Middle
Speaker 2: East Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Indian Pakistan stop fighting. Ukraine
Speaker 2: is going to meet head eyeball to eyeballs, the Olynski
Speaker 2: and Putin together and there may be peace in the
Speaker 2: Middle East, Ian Alexander or the American hostage may be released.
Speaker 2: And that was COVID. That was nineteen eighty eight with
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. He was worried about deficit spending then, which
Speaker 2: was about two hundred billion dollars a year, and now
Speaker 2: it's two trillion. It's gone up ten times, and it's worse,
Speaker 2: and they're ripping off of the rest of the world.
Speaker 2: And there was reporting earlier today that China and America
Speaker 2: with Secretary of Bassett has a deal in the works.
Speaker 2: That is going to be more on it tomorrow. But
Speaker 2: at three pm hour time Eastern time, head of the
Speaker 2: Chinese Polytbureau whatever they're communists, for God's sakes, it's going
Speaker 2: to issue a statement and looks as if they're making
Speaker 2: serious progress on working out a deal with a communist
Speaker 2: red China to ripping us off, as every country's done
Speaker 2: throughout the world for as long as I've been alive.
Speaker 2: We give them complete protection, We allow their products to
Speaker 2: be sold here, but we can't sell our products there.
Speaker 2: And Donald Trump is mercilessully attacked by Democrats in the
Speaker 2: media for speaking the truth. He started with this thirty
Speaker 2: seven years ago, and like he said, I don't think
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run for president, but if I do, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get elected. And Donna Brazil this morning with George
Speaker 2: Stephanopolos Sunday morning, had a lucid comment, which is rare
Speaker 2: for her. She said, the reason we nominated Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: is that we figured she's a black female, she's gonna
Speaker 2: win because the American people aren't going to vote for
Speaker 2: a felon. That was Donna Brazil. Well, we didn't. We
Speaker 2: saw through the crap the Democrats. Donald Trump is a
Speaker 2: great man. He's not a felon except by democratic jargon.
Speaker 2: So they put up a weak candidate after Joe Biden,
Speaker 2: according to Donna Brazil, to get her in office as
Speaker 2: a weak female African American, because they could manipulate her
Speaker 2: for their better fit and keep the game alive of
Speaker 2: having the government fund democratic activities. How about that, Donna
Speaker 2: Brazil said, we had a weak candidate because American people,
Speaker 2: we're going to vote for a felon. Well, he's not
Speaker 2: a felon. He's a great American. We voted for him.
Speaker 2: Let's continue with more up next to doctor Kurt Mascelli
Speaker 2: of Do No Harm, what the medical schools are doing?
Speaker 2: There are doctors and more. Bill cunning and the Great
Speaker 2: American with you and all great Americans. Every Sunday night,
Speaker 2: the Presidents signed numerous eos executive orders dismantling demanding accrediting
Speaker 2: bodies to stop imposing DEI requirements on schools, whether it's
Speaker 2: Yale or Harvard, or UCLA or University of Cincinnati, also
Speaker 2: medical schools, and also the American Bar Association, a very
Speaker 2: liberal organization, wants to use DEI as far as the
Speaker 2: eye can see. But doctor Kurt Mascelli is the medical
Speaker 2: director at Do No Harm, and Do No Harm has
Speaker 2: been leading voice exposing medical crediting bodies for putting politics
Speaker 2: ahead of patients. And doctor Masseli. Welcome to the Bill
Speaker 2: Cunningham Show. And first of all, let's go over the
Speaker 2: last several decades, there's been numerous attempts by the US
Speaker 2: Supreme Court to get racism out of schools, out of
Speaker 2: the workplace, out of schools, but that has largely been
Speaker 2: accomplished in my view, and so liberals, not happy with
Speaker 2: equal and playing grounds, want to change this argument, which
Speaker 2: is DEI. So first of all, tell the American people
Speaker 2: what is DU What is DEI? Then we'll talk about
Speaker 2: critical race theory. What is it?
Speaker 11: In essence, absolutely so, diversity, equity inclusion. DEI unfortunately, really
Speaker 11: has been this effort to promote discrimination and actions within
Speaker 11: universities and systems throughout our country that has really put
Speaker 11: people into positions based on their identity, whether their race
Speaker 11: or gender, whatever it might be. And it really looks
Speaker 11: at us in a very Unamerican way by putting us
Speaker 11: into groups oppressor and oppressed, in creating this dynamic that
Speaker 11: causes tremendous strife and struggle. And we've seen it. We've
Speaker 11: seen it whether through accreditation agencies, through schools where discriminatory
Speaker 11: practices are put in place, and we've lost sight of
Speaker 11: the importance of merit and of quality that really needs
Speaker 11: to be at the heart and soul of what we
Speaker 11: do and what is made America a great country.
Speaker 2: And doctor Marceli, Liberals and mainly ninety nine percent democrats
Speaker 2: control this process. If you're at Harvard or Yale or UCLA,
Speaker 2: University of Chicago, any of the so called top colleges
Speaker 2: are all dominated by liberals. I would also think that
Speaker 2: the great majority of labor unions are dominated by liberals,
Speaker 2: the great majority of the captains of industry are dominated
Speaker 2: by liberals, the great majority of big city mayors are
Speaker 2: dominated by liberal Democrats. So isn't it somewhat odd that
Speaker 2: those who on surface oppose race discrimination employ it. Isn't
Speaker 2: that somewhat peculiar?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 11: I think it really gets to the heart and soul
Speaker 11: of where we need to focus on and focusing on
Speaker 11: who we are as Americans and really not getting into
Speaker 11: conversations that do put us in different categories and that
Speaker 11: separate us and divide us. And I think it's so
Speaker 11: important that we as Americans, as students, as educators, as
Speaker 11: consumers are very much aware of that and know the
Speaker 11: importance of the merit and the quality that we see
Speaker 11: and really not to let these un American principles take hold.
Speaker 11: I mean, that's what we're doing at Do No Harm.
Speaker 11: That's what we're doing when we focus on the medical
Speaker 11: space and healthcare. We know that Americans want healthcare to
Speaker 11: be excellent. When you're in that journey. When you're in
Speaker 11: that er, you want the very best doctor before you,
Speaker 11: the very best nurse, the very best caretakers who can
Speaker 11: make sure that you're going to be well, your family's
Speaker 11: going to be well. And we don't want things like
Speaker 11: immutable characteristics and really this sort of divisive dynamic taking place.
Speaker 11: We want it to be really an approach that looks
Speaker 11: at the patient and looks at what can be done
Speaker 11: that's best for them. So, yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 11: work that we need to do, and we're encouraged by
Speaker 11: really tackling this issue of the politics with an administration
Speaker 11: that's willing to look at all sorts of various avenues
Speaker 11: to make our country into a much better state. And
Speaker 11: really those values that we're founded upon, that meritocracy that
Speaker 11: is at our fundamental base.
Speaker 2: Meritocracy is terribly important to doctor Masseli. Before we get
Speaker 2: to medical school, I see that Harvard has now changed.
Speaker 2: They had a chief Officer of a Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.
Speaker 2: They had a Chief DEI Officer. They had about sixty
Speaker 2: employees hired at Harvard in the Department of DEI. Then
Speaker 2: now I've changed the name because they're catching too much
Speaker 2: flock and they kind of call it the Director of
Speaker 2: Community Involvement, And so I would anticipate the goal now
Speaker 2: will be to eliminate DEI in principle, but not in practice.
Speaker 2: Have you noticed that little bit of a subtle change.
Speaker 11: You're certainly onto something, and you're absolutely right. I mean, unfortunately,
Speaker 11: it's DEI as an entity as a principle that needs
Speaker 11: to be eliminated because of the discrimination, because of the divisiveness.
Speaker 11: That is the idea that needs to go away. And
Speaker 11: we've seen other schools do this as well. If you
Speaker 11: look at schools that have changed the names of their department,
Speaker 11: and they might not be a quote unquote DEI department,
Speaker 11: but as you say, something very different. But if they're
Speaker 11: doing the same things, then it's just as problematic. And unfortunately,
Speaker 11: many of these institutions over the past decade plus have
Speaker 11: actually embedded DEI very much into their organizational base. And
Speaker 11: we sought the University of Michigan throughout that system, and
Speaker 11: I think there are almost a thousand different employees that
Speaker 11: were related to DEI in some way, shape or form,
Speaker 11: and maybe not all of them are full time or such,
Speaker 11: but nonetheless, it's a tremendous dei infrastructure that's built in
Speaker 11: place and really does need to be dismantled in order
Speaker 11: for us to make sure that the meritocracy is what's
Speaker 11: driving the day and not ideology and not division.
Speaker 2: So you're saying, in one public University of Michigan, the
Speaker 2: home of the Wolverines, they have about a thousand employees
Speaker 2: hired to root out discrimination at Michigan by practicing it.
Speaker 2: It's kind of and you also have something on your
Speaker 2: website implicit bias training for Michigan healthcare professionals. When you
Speaker 2: can't find discrimination, and these thousand individuals at Michigan University
Speaker 2: have got to be spending every day trying to find discrimination.
Speaker 2: They got to located. Maybe they should look at the
Speaker 2: football team that the main players in the football team
Speaker 2: are seventy percent black. Because it's a meritocracy. I don't
Speaker 2: care if there are one hundred percent one hundred percent black,
Speaker 2: as long as it's a meritocracy. But if you don't
Speaker 2: find discrimination in your organization, you have to change to
Speaker 2: something called implicit bias. Explain what that is?
Speaker 11: Sure, that's you know that implicit bias idea is that
Speaker 11: we harbor these biases within ourselves that we don't even
Speaker 11: necessarily know about. Right, they're implicit, not explicit, but what
Speaker 11: we harbor them towards people of different color, different sex,
Speaker 11: different religion, whatever it might be. And that of the
Speaker 11: consequence of those implicit biases, we are essentially doing bad
Speaker 11: things to other people. And I think it's a terrible
Speaker 11: concept because it accuses somebody of practicing racism or sexism
Speaker 11: or or whatever it might be, as opposed to really
Speaker 11: looking at who they are as an individual and who
Speaker 11: that person is. And I, you know, I think for
Speaker 11: each and every one of us, it's so important to
Speaker 11: recognize that the implicit bias idea has been so baked
Speaker 11: into critical race theory and so baked into fostering more
Speaker 11: division exclusion. We need to look past that. We need
Speaker 11: to look to again the individual, who is that person
Speaker 11: that stands before us. I know that we see that
Speaker 11: implicit bias training, whether as a mandatatory factor and licensure
Speaker 11: in certain states again such as Michigan, but we also
Speaker 11: see it in some of the actual certification statements that
Speaker 11: physicians must sign on too, and so you know, the
Speaker 11: American Board of Emergency Medicine, for instance, requires physicians, if
Speaker 11: they're going to participate in the board certification process, to
Speaker 11: acknowledge their implicit and explicit biases. And you know, again
Speaker 11: that really and present a charge on somebody that already
Speaker 11: going into things. They're doing things in the wrong way.
Speaker 11: They're doing things because of racism, structural racism, of all
Speaker 11: these different ideas, and that doesn't judge people based on
Speaker 11: the individual and who they are and how they're performing.
Speaker 11: Especially in an emergency department situation where people are coming
Speaker 11: in at critical moments in their life, the last thing
Speaker 11: that we're thinking about is the race of the individual.
Speaker 11: The first thing we're thinking about of how do we
Speaker 11: save this person, how do we help them immediately? And
Speaker 11: so it really becomes very wearing on the medical profession
Speaker 11: of medical field. And frankly, we've seen people decide not
Speaker 11: to renew their lives or not to participate. And you know,
Speaker 11: we need more healthcare providers to provide good quality care,
Speaker 11: not less. And it's training such as that that unfortunately
Speaker 11: drive people away because of the ideology that they impart.
Speaker 2: Great point, doctor cart Masseli. So you're saying, if a
Speaker 2: young Bill Cunningham wanted to go to medical school, I'd
Speaker 2: have to first certify then I'm a racist. I have
Speaker 2: to certify that I understand that I need implicit biased training.
Speaker 2: I have to say that I need training on critical
Speaker 2: race theory. I have to certify that I'm I'm an
Speaker 2: anti racism advocate. So to get into medical school, I
Speaker 2: have to certify that I'm a racist. To become a doctor.
Speaker 8: All.
Speaker 11: You know, for medical schools, there is a process that
Speaker 11: has folks fill out an application, and oftentimes those applications
Speaker 11: are very much related to the diversity initiative that someone
Speaker 11: has taken. It's a little bit later that often comes
Speaker 11: out the demands for implicit bias, and you know, it
Speaker 11: depends on the school. With some schools it might be
Speaker 11: the first week where folks are learning about anti racism
Speaker 11: and healthcare and trankly the first week of orientation if anything,
Speaker 11: should be about the practice of medicine, the hippocratic oath,
Speaker 11: the values of what brings us there. But unfortunately the
Speaker 11: ideology is there. And necessarily what I was speaking to
Speaker 11: was the board certification, so is as one actually is
Speaker 11: now an independently practicing position. Unfortunately, some board requirements have
Speaker 11: made folks acknowledge their implicit bias or as we said,
Speaker 11: some licenses in order to be an unpracticing position. It
Speaker 11: really I mean, you're right, much of it does start
Speaker 11: in the medical school and even the application process, and
Speaker 11: unfortunately it just sometimes gets worse along the way. And
Speaker 11: that's what an organization like to no harm. I mean,
Speaker 11: that's what we we're really combating, is to look at
Speaker 11: these elements of DEI that have been so destructive and
Speaker 11: so divisive, looking to find ways of focusing on quality,
Speaker 11: focusing on merits, focusing on the things that really matter
Speaker 11: to folks when they're in that healthcare environment.
Speaker 2: Well, can a black person be racist? If if I'm
Speaker 2: a black gay man and I'm applying, do I have
Speaker 2: to certify that I'm a racist and have anti gay biases?
Speaker 2: Is this only for a white Christian males? Or does
Speaker 2: a black person have to certify that they're they're not
Speaker 2: a racist? They need to certify they have have to
Speaker 2: certify that I have biases as a black person, therefore
Speaker 2: I need to be cured of my biases. Does it
Speaker 2: only apply to one gender, one race or everybody?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 11: The these application questions are open for everybody to to
Speaker 11: state their experience with diversity, equity, inclusion and such, and
Speaker 11: so it really does leave it open to everyone to
Speaker 11: offer their thoughts about those things. But again, is that
Speaker 11: really part and parcel to what an emission process should
Speaker 11: entail And shouldn't we be looking at the grades and
Speaker 11: the test performance. And additionally, it's certainly fair to understand
Speaker 11: the quickular activities and the things that someone has done
Speaker 11: the course of their life. But when we lose when
Speaker 11: we focus unfortunately on race and division, we lose sight
Speaker 11: of those elements that look towards qualifications. And one of
Speaker 11: the things that that we do know is that students
Speaker 11: who do better on the MCAP, the emission test for
Speaker 11: medical school, tend to perform better in medical school. We
Speaker 11: know that students who do better in medical school tend
Speaker 11: to perform better in residency training as a physician. And
Speaker 11: we know that resident physicians who pass the board exams,
Speaker 11: for instance, will actually have better outcomes in terms of
Speaker 11: mortality and re admissions for Medicare benefitiary. So we know
Speaker 11: there is a chain of connection there that merit does matter.
Speaker 11: It matters to how that physician is going to perform
Speaker 11: and how they're going to function. And again, I think
Speaker 11: it's each and every one of us who wants the
Speaker 11: very best provider before us when we're in that critical
Speaker 11: situation and need really life saving care, or any care
Speaker 11: for that matter, no matter what it may be.
Speaker 2: Doctor Masseli, I read a story in the Wall Street
Speaker 2: Journal that this industry and it's an industry of DEI
Speaker 2: and anti racism and critical race theory as practiced by
Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of employees. This is a huge business
Speaker 2: and this business will not be given up by those
Speaker 2: engaged in it lightly. They are completely believing that racism
Speaker 2: is hiding everywhere in American society, that critical race theory
Speaker 2: attributes all nations problems to racism, no matter what it is,
Speaker 2: that all of us have an anti race, have a
Speaker 2: racism bias. We have to learn what anti racism is.
Speaker 2: We have to learn about gender affirming care, we have
Speaker 2: to learn about the ad biases. President, each of us,
Speaker 2: do you understand that this effort of yours and others
Speaker 2: is going to take a long time before the eight
Speaker 2: billion dollars and there's hundreds of thousands working in this industry.
Speaker 2: They're not easily going to give up their work. You
Speaker 2: understand it's about money, It's not about making better doctors
Speaker 2: or better lawyers or better cops. It's about making money.
Speaker 2: And the industry wants to make money. When the issue
Speaker 2: is what's causing this difficulty or how to solve it.
Speaker 2: It's always about money, is it not, And that this industry.
Speaker 2: If there's a thousand people at the University of Michigan
Speaker 2: involved in this kind of crap, and that's just one
Speaker 2: of thousands of examples, those involved in this industry of
Speaker 2: racism will not quickly give up their business, correct.
Speaker 11: I think that's what we have to really be watchful for. So,
Speaker 11: for instance, University of Michigan has said, I think maybe
Speaker 11: a few weeks ago, that they will begin dismantling the
Speaker 11: DEI initiatives, and we need to follow that. We need
Speaker 11: to make sure that when organizations institutions say they're going
Speaker 11: to dismantle change things, that they truly rid themselves of
Speaker 11: those DEI principles that are discriminatory and that really hurt
Speaker 11: the meritocracy. It is very much ingrained in many institutions,
Speaker 11: many schools, and I think it's really calls to the
Speaker 11: importance of organizations like Do No Harm that are that
Speaker 11: are membership organizations and are focused on getting identity politics
Speaker 11: out of the medical profession and certainly for other organizations,
Speaker 11: you know, out of getting into out of their professional
Speaker 11: areas as well. It is going to take effort, it's
Speaker 11: going to take time, and it's going to take people
Speaker 11: speaking up, you know. For Do No Harm, we have
Speaker 11: a tipline. We welcome people to come to our website
Speaker 11: do No Harmmedicine dot org so they can provide information
Speaker 11: as to what might be going on at their school
Speaker 11: or at their organization, their healthcare provider, hospital or such
Speaker 11: whereby they where those organizations if they're not you know,
Speaker 11: really following principles really meritocracy, but still lead to DEI.
Speaker 11: We're curious to hear about that. We want to be
Speaker 11: able to shine a light upon it because our belief
Speaker 11: is that if we can shine light upon this, we
Speaker 11: can make America where and we can really cause action
Speaker 11: to take place, because folk will realize that we need
Speaker 11: to restore and return to those principles that again focus
Speaker 11: on enhancing quality, on improving outcomes. And for medicine, it
Speaker 11: certainly relates to trust as well and the importance of
Speaker 11: having integrity and really believing in the medical system and
Speaker 11: having confidence that it will provide for you throughout throughout
Speaker 11: your lifetime.
Speaker 2: You know, doctor Missellie, a lot of work ahead of you.
Speaker 2: And the liberals are hoping that Trump leaves office in
Speaker 2: about three and a half to four years. He's going
Speaker 2: to leave office, and they just hold on, rename DEI,
Speaker 2: rename discrimination, that we employ, change the name, and just
Speaker 2: way through or four years, we'll get maybe someone like
Speaker 2: Governor Pritzer or maybe Kamala Harris will be the next
Speaker 2: president and we're back in business again, beating the dead
Speaker 2: horse of racism for personal benefit, lots of money. And
Speaker 2: I would know that Michelle Obama and or podcast recently
Speaker 2: said that racism is everywhere and that way to fight
Speaker 2: against it, and that's a big industry. It's a lie
Speaker 2: that all of us have implicit advices of one type
Speaker 2: or another. But it's not intrinsic, it is not incorrigible.
Speaker 2: It doesn't what we live in. The most are racially
Speaker 2: free organization America and the history of the world. I'm
Speaker 2: proud to be in America and I'm proud of what
Speaker 2: we've done. And the liberals who must be fun that
Speaker 2: must be identified, and it's going to take more than
Speaker 2: four years of Donald Trump. It's going to take a
Speaker 2: long time. As we took us thirty years to get here,
Speaker 2: may take us thirty years to get out. But the
Speaker 2: longest journey begins with the first step. Do no Harmmedicine
Speaker 2: dot Org. Doctor Curt Masseli, good luck to you, and
Speaker 2: God bless you, and God bless America. Thank you very much, Doc.
Speaker 11: Appreciate Bill. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: God bless America. Let's continue with more fund an organization.
Speaker 2: You get more of it when you fund these groups
Speaker 2: that DEI all over colleges, universities, police departments, municipal governments,
Speaker 2: the US military and the National Guard. Fund all these groups,
Speaker 2: you get more of it. So they keep looking for
Speaker 2: racism when it doesn't exist to justify their job. Go
Speaker 2: Cunningham the Great American. Live with you every Sunday Night
Speaker 2: by Billy Cunningham the Great American. Imagine this. You have
Speaker 2: a doctrination program underway in the most elite medical schools
Speaker 2: that demand adherence through a particular political viewpoint. Otherwise you
Speaker 2: can't get in. And if you can't, if you do
Speaker 2: get in, you don't get grades in medical school. And
Speaker 2: if you get grades. You won't be credentialed or get
Speaker 2: your choice based upon your political viewpoint. Do no harm.
Speaker 2: Check it out the website, Do No Harm, and doctor
Speaker 2: Kurt Masseli laid it out pretty clearly how much trouble
Speaker 2: we're in, and we're in serious difficulty. You can imagine
Speaker 2: if the shoe was on the other foot, and really
Speaker 2: right wing conservative viewpoints are demanded of our medical colleges universities,
Speaker 2: how big the outcry would be. Let's continue with more
Speaker 2: coming up. Next is is Jeri Kaufman. He's got to
Speaker 2: book out American Intofada Israel because of war and the
Speaker 2: new anti Semitism. This is extremely important because beginning Tuesday,
Speaker 2: Wednesday and Thursday, our great President's going to fly to
Speaker 2: cutter and the UAE and Saudi Arabia and the rumors
Speaker 2: it might be something to do with Israel also to
Speaker 2: try to get the piece accord underway. And it looks
Speaker 2: as if there's peace breaking out all over the world.
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Speaker 2: By Billy Cunningham, the Great America. And two or three
Speaker 2: months ago we had on Yuri Kaufman, who's written a
Speaker 2: book called American Intavada, Israel, the Gaza War and the
Speaker 2: New Anti Semitism, and he was such a fabulous guest.
Speaker 2: So much is going on this week, and I guess
Speaker 2: next week, and the President's going to the Middle East,
Speaker 2: I guess the cutter and you into Saudi Arabia on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 2: See what comes of that. There's rumors he may head
Speaker 2: to Israel at some point. I don't know, but piece
Speaker 2: is breaking out everywhere. And now I'm told that by
Speaker 2: Ambassador wit Cough so to speak, that Iran is ready
Speaker 2: to make a deal. I believe that when hell phrase
Speaker 2: is over and we have complete splits on American campuses.
Speaker 2: Today most of the graduations have taken place, and I
Speaker 2: kind of have two eyes, and I like to see
Speaker 2: what goes on before I say, boy, this is wonderful
Speaker 2: what's happening in the world. But Uri Kaufman, welcome again
Speaker 2: to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, let's
Speaker 2: deal first with what's happening in Gaza. And it appears
Speaker 2: the President's going to be in the Middle East in
Speaker 2: two or three days from now to try to work
Speaker 2: out situation. Are you encouraged, discouraged or you kind of
Speaker 2: have a wait and see attitude about what's happening.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm gonna go wait and see. It is a
Speaker 10: lot going on in a very short period of time.
Speaker 10: Things have a way of changing very quickly. People have
Speaker 10: a way of planting stories that are frankly false. There's
Speaker 10: actually a bit of a scandal going on right now
Speaker 10: in Israel. It's called cut our Gates, as in Watergate,
Speaker 10: only with Cutter, because it turned out that Cutter was
Speaker 10: paying people to plant stories in Israeli media that were
Speaker 10: completely false, and one of them was actually dangerous. One
Speaker 10: of the stories they planted was that Egypt was massing
Speaker 10: an army on Israel's border, perhaps with hostile intent. None
Speaker 10: of it was true. Why they would do something so
Speaker 10: crazy is beyond me. But the point is there's a
Speaker 10: lot of information flying around in Israel right now, and
Speaker 10: it's really hard to say what's true and what's false.
Speaker 10: I will say this though, Ambassador Huckabee probably one of
Speaker 10: the finest ambassadors we have working for us right now.
Speaker 10: Obviously an outstanding governor, was a major candidate for president,
Speaker 10: came in second place back in eighty one eight states
Speaker 10: in the primaries, lost to John McCain. No shame in that.
Speaker 10: And he said there's no break at all between President
Speaker 10: Trump and Minison at you.
Speaker 6: So I'll go with that.
Speaker 10: He's reliable as they come.
Speaker 2: And in a free, open society, of course, Cuttergate is available.
Speaker 2: And what the media and this country plays up loudly
Speaker 2: is the fact that there's part of Israeli society that
Speaker 2: thinks the Israeli armies should get the hell out of Gaza,
Speaker 2: give it back over to Hamas, get the hostages home.
Speaker 2: It's a great thing that the last American osage is
Speaker 2: going to be released soon, if not been released already,
Speaker 2: and eating Alexander, and that's a good thing. But so
Speaker 2: you're saying from Israeli media, and I was there a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. I loved my visit to israel
Speaker 2: I love what I was seeing as a practicing Roman Catholic,
Speaker 2: I love the new Pope, etc. However, you take it
Speaker 2: with a grain of salt. If there was an Israeli
Speaker 2: real public relation pool about whether or not ten thousand
Speaker 2: more of the IDF reserves should be called up to
Speaker 2: have the final solutions, so to speak, in Gaza, to
Speaker 2: clean it out of a moss, what would the vote
Speaker 2: be to the great majority of Israeli's No, what's at
Speaker 2: stake here?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 10: Absolutely? Now understand Israel's a democracy, and what happened in
Speaker 10: America in World War Two, where the public rallied completely
Speaker 10: behind a war effort for the entire duration of the war.
Speaker 10: That was a one off. Every war that America has
Speaker 10: ever fought in its history had its anti war faction,
Speaker 10: had its controversy, whether it was the Civil War, the
Speaker 10: Revolutionary War. I mean, imagine protesting against George Washington. Well,
Speaker 10: there was a faction that did. I don't have to
Speaker 10: tell you what went on during Vietnam a career. That's
Speaker 10: the typical. In a democracy, people are going to have
Speaker 10: different points of view. Israel is no different from us.
Speaker 10: Now what the people who are anti war, though, are
Speaker 10: saying is downright silly. What they're saying is as follows.
Speaker 10: They're not saying they want to leave the Moss in power.
Speaker 10: They understand what that means. It means go home and
Speaker 10: prepare the eight nine year olds for the next nine
Speaker 10: October seventh attack. What the people are saying is simply this,
Speaker 10: let's get the hostages back a ceasefire agreement, and then
Speaker 10: we'll wait for Hamas to make one little misstep and
Speaker 10: violate the ceasefire, and then we'll go in and destroy Hamas.
Speaker 10: Now that logic is downright ridiculous, Benjamin, and youo heard
Speaker 10: it from his head of the shin Bet, and he
Speaker 10: frankly blew up and he said, you're an idiot. And
Speaker 10: he's right. It's a ridiculous thing to think that the
Speaker 10: international community is going to sit back and let Israel
Speaker 10: do something like that. Kamas has said the only way
Speaker 10: they will agree to such a ceasefire is if it
Speaker 10: is guaranteed by America, Russia, Turkey, the European Union, China,
Speaker 10: a UN Security Council resolution. I mean the idea that
Speaker 10: is that would just be able over some infraction to
Speaker 10: ignore that and go back in the later is just
Speaker 10: flat out ridiculous. So I would take all this with
Speaker 10: a grain of salt. The Israeli public is solidly.
Speaker 6: Behind the war goals.
Speaker 10: Kamas has simply got to go Otherwise, we're just going
Speaker 10: to be doing this again and again and again forever.
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't know to your Kaufman that repeatedly there's
Speaker 2: been Palestinians themselves that have said even they can't take
Speaker 2: a moss anymore. And when someone surfaces, they're beheaded. And
Speaker 2: the Palestinian Arab suffering is caused by Hamas and by
Speaker 2: Iran indirectly. It's not about to Hamas about building schools
Speaker 2: and hospitals and bridges and factories. It's not about infrastructure,
Speaker 2: not about creating jobs or nurturing a culture, or volunteerism
Speaker 2: or advancing education. It's all about using the billions and
Speaker 2: billions of dollars given to the so called Gaza over
Speaker 2: the past several years, beginning at least twenty oh five,
Speaker 2: twenty years when Israeli pulled out. It's all about one thing,
Speaker 2: which is killing the jew wherever they might be located,
Speaker 2: in killing Americans. And that's not going to change, which
Speaker 2: brings me to my second part. Right now, we're told
Speaker 2: that Iran is on the verge of peace and it's
Speaker 2: going to get rid of their nuclear bomb nuclear missile technology.
Speaker 2: I believe that when health freeze is over, and I
Speaker 2: hope we're not suckered into Iran once again to believing
Speaker 2: they want piece. They don't need nuclear power in Iran
Speaker 2: for electricity. They have the cheapest electricity right now in
Speaker 2: the Middle East, it's almost free. They want to get
Speaker 2: these nuclear centrifugus up to weapons great, and they want
Speaker 2: to use it and marry it with a missile and
Speaker 2: destroy Israel. Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 10: Well, you're one hundred percent right, And you know the
Speaker 10: proof is really very simple. The administration is said, if Iran,
Speaker 10: for some bizarre reason, wants a civilian nuclear program, they
Speaker 10: can have a civilian nuclear program. Did like twenty countries
Speaker 10: that do. And the way it's done is real simple.
Speaker 10: They import the nuclear fuel into those countries. It's at
Speaker 10: a three and a half percent enrichment level, which is
Speaker 10: well below what you can use in a weapon. You
Speaker 10: can use it for civilian purposes, you can use it
Speaker 10: in a power plant, you can use it for nuclear medicine,
Speaker 10: but you can't use it at three and a half
Speaker 10: percent for a bomb for that and you close it
Speaker 10: to ninety percent. So what they do is they import
Speaker 10: the three and a half percent enriched uranium into those countries,
Speaker 10: then they take back the spent fuel. It's a great system.
Speaker 10: It's been around for decades. It works really well. It's
Speaker 10: been offered to Iran, and of course Iron keeps saying, well, no,
Speaker 10: we don't want that, we want to enrich your rangeum. Well,
Speaker 10: the minute they say they want to enrich ranium is
Speaker 10: only one reason why anyone would want to do that.
Speaker 10: So it's pretty obvious. You know where they're where they're pointed,
Speaker 10: and you know this is not a normal country like
Speaker 10: a Russia, like a China that.
Speaker 2: Could be deterred these guys.
Speaker 10: If we've learned one thing from the October seven attack,
Speaker 10: it's that they don't think the way we do. And
Speaker 10: their leaders have been saying outwardly, look why, you know,
Speaker 10: raise our kids, educate them. We don't want that. We
Speaker 10: just want to kill the Jews. We just want to
Speaker 10: create a caliphate. And that is what Ayatolakomaimi said when
Speaker 10: he was alive. He used to say the revolution was
Speaker 10: not about water, the price of watermelons. But by that
Speaker 10: he meant, my job is not to produce a better
Speaker 10: economy job the things that you and I take for
Speaker 10: granted from our government, He said, Our job is to
Speaker 10: spread Islam, radical Islam. A.
Speaker 2: Our job is to.
Speaker 10: Create a calisate. Having a nuclear weapon and hands like
Speaker 10: that makes a very very dangerous world, and not just
Speaker 10: for Israel, but really for everybody. I could just go
Speaker 10: back to Gaza for a second. I would just point
Speaker 10: out one thing. They constantly go on television, people who
Speaker 10: are sympathetic to the Palestinians or the Palestinians themselves, and
Speaker 10: they talk about the suffering in Gaza, and I have
Speaker 10: to say, all of it is true, and all of
Speaker 10: it is heartbreaking. But there's a real, real simple response.
Speaker 10: If it's so terrible, why don't you just make peace?
Speaker 10: Why don't you just recognize israel so called right to exist?
Speaker 10: Why don't you just agree to the two states solution,
Speaker 10: which Israel and Benjamin and you know, agreed two decades ago.
Speaker 10: And you know, I watch other media, and particular liberal media,
Speaker 10: legacy media, and this goes on and on and on,
Speaker 10: and they go on and on about how they're suffering,
Speaker 10: and it never even occurs to anybody. Just ask that
Speaker 10: simple question, Well, if it's so terrible, why don't you
Speaker 10: just end it? Why don't you just sign a peace treaty?
Speaker 10: What is stopping you? The thing to always remember is
Speaker 10: Israel is not waging war against Gaza. Gaza is waging
Speaker 10: war against Israel. That's the core problem.
Speaker 2: Jerry Kaufman. This could end tomorrow the next day. Surrender
Speaker 2: Hamas is lost, put down your weapons, invite the Israelis in,
Speaker 2: release the hostages, and let's talk about reconstruction, whatever that
Speaker 2: might be. But whether it's Hamas or Hesbla, Boko Haram,
Speaker 2: just Taliban, just is whatever term you want to use.
Speaker 2: It's a culture of death. It's not a culture of life.
Speaker 2: Even the German Nazi soldiers wanted to live, the Russian
Speaker 2: soldiers after World War Two, they wanted to live. But
Speaker 2: the goal of these Islamic extreme groups is to die.
Speaker 2: Their purpose is not to build schools and a nurture
Speaker 2: and culture or like. They're channeling their fury against Israel.
Speaker 2: And they've been given the opportunity countless times and they've
Speaker 2: balked every time. Using the billions in order to reward suicide,
Speaker 2: giving stipends and naming streets and parks after those who
Speaker 2: murder innocent men, women and children, and they indoctrinate their
Speaker 2: own children with the hatred, hatred of the jew in
Speaker 2: the Western culture. And this isn't a way to build
Speaker 2: a nation, it's a way. It's a suicide cult. And
Speaker 2: our media and those ridiculous students at Columbia and at
Speaker 2: Harvard and Yale and all over the country and the
Speaker 2: University of Washington, they're paid for, their bought and paid
Speaker 2: for and e I don't like it here, get the
Speaker 2: hell out. But the point is it's a culture of death.
Speaker 2: And until Iran and Hamas says, you know, we're done,
Speaker 2: we're not going to build any more bombs and missiles.
Speaker 2: All this aid we're going to use to feed our
Speaker 2: own people. Those responsible in gosp for the suffering of
Speaker 2: those millions of Goslins, about two million is Hamas and
Speaker 2: Iran they're the ones responsible.
Speaker 6: Oh absolutely.
Speaker 10: And you know, we're in a unique moment. We're in
Speaker 10: a moment now where there's been this hideous war. It's
Speaker 10: gone on for about a year and a half. Israel
Speaker 10: is very very very close to getting rid of Kamas.
Speaker 10: We're already seeing protests in Gaza. We're seeing murdering its
Speaker 10: own people to stay in power. They've been shooting people
Speaker 10: in the streets. There was one guy, a prominent guy,
Speaker 10: who was caught on camera. They caught him, they tortured
Speaker 10: him to death. The family then retaliated against Kamas, so
Speaker 10: they killed two Kamas guys. So you know things are
Speaker 10: happening there where Hamas is already is grip on power
Speaker 10: is starting to teeter. And now think of it this way.
Speaker 10: Imagine we're closing in on Berlin. We've had this horrible,
Speaker 10: hideous war, we're about to win, and then someone says, well,
Speaker 10: all we need to stop because of the innocent German
Speaker 10: civilians and all the suffering. So let's have a ceasefire.
Speaker 10: Let's leave the Nazis in power. We know they're going
Speaker 10: to reconstant, you know they're going to attack us again,
Speaker 10: but you know we can't finish the job because of
Speaker 10: the innocent German civilians and all the suffering they've been
Speaker 10: It's ridiculous. This logic has never been employed in any
Speaker 10: conflict in the history of the world against anyone.
Speaker 4: Except for Israel.
Speaker 10: And so the question I think that, I say, the
Speaker 10: people in legacy media propagating this have to ask themselves
Speaker 10: is why is real different? Why is this the only
Speaker 10: war in the history of the world where Country A
Speaker 10: invades Country B and when Country B is about to win,
Speaker 10: We thought you got to stop because you know the
Speaker 10: people of Country A are suffering when they could just
Speaker 10: sign a peace treaty. There's just no reason for any
Speaker 10: of this to go on. And all it does is
Speaker 10: leave the Islamo Nazis in power, leave Clamas in power,
Speaker 10: and prepare us for the next round. It's really just
Speaker 10: a sad, sad story.
Speaker 2: Can you address yourself briefly to what's happening on college campuses?
Speaker 2: Graduation proceedings are happening everywhere. I think Columbia is having
Speaker 2: one in a couple of days here they may have
Speaker 2: to shut it down. What's happening to the several thousand
Speaker 2: seemingly students the University of Washington or Columbia University of
Speaker 2: Chicago that are hamas chapters and they're in a sense
Speaker 2: permitted to run wild. Who's paying him? Do they believe
Speaker 2: the crap coming out of their mouth? That stinks? What
Speaker 2: is happening to college campuses, Yuri Kaufman.
Speaker 4: It's a good question.
Speaker 10: So a guy named Mark Kotlakov looked at this, and
Speaker 10: what he found was this is more a phenomenon of
Speaker 10: elite universities than ordinary universities like the one I went to.
Speaker 10: I went to a city college at night. They don't
Speaker 10: have any trouble there. It's primarily a problem of our
Speaker 10: elite colleges of Harvard of Columbia, places like that. Some
Speaker 10: say it's because Qatar has poured billions of dollars into
Speaker 10: those universities and they've used that money to indoctrinate students.
Speaker 10: I myself am not a big fan of that theory.
Speaker 10: I mean, I think that certainly is a problem, and
Speaker 10: I think that's something we ought to look at, and
Speaker 10: whether we want to allow that to go on. I
Speaker 10: think it just has more to do with the fact
Speaker 10: that these are schools that, look, they tilt left. We
Speaker 10: all know that, and I think we're in a moment
Speaker 10: culturally where Look, as I've said, many times, let's just
Speaker 10: do a simple thought experiment. Let's assume argument's sake, every
Speaker 10: fact of the October seven attack happened exactly the way
Speaker 10: it did. Let's just change one fact, so just to
Speaker 10: go a little quick recap, twelve hundred people murdered, many
Speaker 10: many women raped. It enjoyed universal support among the public.
Speaker 10: The Palestinian public regularly refer to Jews, apes and pigs.
Speaker 10: You don't believe me, go on Google type and US
Speaker 10: apes and pigs. And then one final fact, the Biden
Speaker 10: administration budgeted billions of dollars for GOZA. But what they
Speaker 10: would turn the innocent civilians. Okay, let's assume all that happened,
Speaker 10: but the attackers were Germans or Ukrainians or white South Africa.
Speaker 10: The words white people who said Jews are apes and
Speaker 10: six do you really think Biden would have given them billion?
Speaker 10: And now let's hold the thought for a moment again,
Speaker 10: stay with me on this thought experiment, in this parallel universe. Again,
Speaker 10: white supremacists, not Arab supremacists, right, but they murdered twelve
Speaker 10: hundred black people, and they rape black women and it
Speaker 10: enjoys universal support. And then a Republican administration says we're
Speaker 10: going to give billions of dollars of a to the
Speaker 10: innocent whites, premises civilians. There one's the premissts who say
Speaker 10: at blacks or apes and pigs, they'd be riding in
Speaker 10: the streets. In other words, what we have here is
Speaker 10: a classic case of cognitive dissonance in the elite universities.
Speaker 10: They've been indoctrinated to fight for people of color in
Speaker 10: every circumstance. Now the problem is that makes no sense
Speaker 10: in this fact pattern with Israel and the Palestinians. So
Speaker 10: then they change the facts to fit the narrative. And
Speaker 10: that is why right after the October seven attack, Barack
Speaker 10: Obama tweeted that we have.
Speaker 6: To face facts.
Speaker 10: There's unclean hands on both sides because it was he
Speaker 10: termed the unbearable occupation. Well, there was no occupation. Israeli
Speaker 10: withdrawn eighteen years before.
Speaker 4: Just made it up.
Speaker 10: The New York Times makes up stuff about Israel all
Speaker 10: the time. It all falls into the same narrative because
Speaker 10: they want to back people of color against what they
Speaker 10: perceive as a white group of privilege, the Jews, and
Speaker 10: so they change facts to fit that narrative.
Speaker 2: Well, highly educated, generally white females, I think on a
Speaker 2: Columbia eighty percent, we're highly educated white females that are
Speaker 2: at the forefront of this too. I guess they make
Speaker 2: their miserrabel lives seem relevant. But the name of the
Speaker 2: book is American Intofada, Israel, the Gaza War and the
Speaker 2: new anti Semitism. I didn't think Columbia University itself in
Speaker 2: New York City would ever be declared to be anti Semitic,
Speaker 2: but clearly it is. It's elite universities, not the trade schools.
Speaker 2: That's not the case, not everage universities, the elite telling
Speaker 2: us how to behave, how to think. Once again, you're
Speaker 2: a coffin. Let's keep the lines of communication open. You're
Speaker 2: a great American. And thanks for coming on the Bill
Speaker 2: Cunningham Show. And the truth will set us all free.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Yuri, it will.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 10: It's always just so great to be here.
Speaker 2: God bless you. Thank you. Let's continue with more. There
Speaker 2: it is, and this week's going to be consequential. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. And thank God we have the
Speaker 2: right guy in the White House right now. Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 2: the Great American with you every Sunday night by Billy
Speaker 2: counting in the Great American every few months. I want
Speaker 2: to hear from Yuri Kaufman. You can't rely upon the
Speaker 2: mainstream media for any accuracy when it comes to Israel.
Speaker 2: They are about the only country in the world that, when
Speaker 2: they're facing an existential threat of their destruction, is not
Speaker 2: permitted to win. They've never been permitted to win any
Speaker 2: of the five or six wars because the media and
Speaker 2: the UN jumps in and says, you can't win. All
Speaker 2: that would take for this war to end, and thank god,
Speaker 2: the one American hostage is being released. Eaton Alexander is
Speaker 2: for the amaster recognized reality, actually lay down their weapons
Speaker 2: and have unconditional surrender. We lost you one. Come and
Speaker 2: save our own people that we're destroying, and the hostages
Speaker 2: are all gone. But they can't do that because they're
Speaker 2: a culture of death, not a culture of life. Israel
Speaker 2: is a participatory, functioning Western style democratic nation with large
Speaker 2: numbers of Arab and Muslims, not just in their society
Speaker 2: but in their kanesset. They're part of the government functioning.
Speaker 2: Look what Hamas in Iran has done to Gaza. And
Speaker 2: one comes away with one thought is that Israel must win.
Speaker 2: And all Hamas has to do is sign a peace treaty,
Speaker 2: put down their weapons, release the hostages. The war's over.
Speaker 2: Let's continue with more coming up next as Mark Meckler
Speaker 2: of the Constitutional Convention of the States. Bill Cunningham, the
Speaker 2: Great American, With you and all of the great Americans
Speaker 2: every Sunday Night, by Billy Cunningham, the Great American. The
Speaker 2: wisdom our founding fathers is apparent to all that can see.
Speaker 2: And in seventeen eighty seven and Philadelphia, the founding fathers
Speaker 2: got together and draft the United States Constitution provided for
Speaker 2: an amendment process. I think there's twenty seven currently in
Speaker 2: which citizens can amend it by doing a couple things
Speaker 2: such as two thirds of the House, two thirds of
Speaker 2: the Senate, three force of the states. They had Article
Speaker 2: five also in the United States Constitution from seventeen eighty seven,
Speaker 2: which said that Article five says that they can be
Speaker 2: a convention of the States. So instead of the process
Speaker 2: of amendment going through the Congress, it goes directly to
Speaker 2: the people. And one of the gentlemen in charge of
Speaker 2: this effort to have a Convention of the States is
Speaker 2: the honorable Mark Meckler. He's President of Citizens for Self
Speaker 2: Governance and Convention of the State's Action. And Mark Meckler,
Speaker 2: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show. Just in a
Speaker 2: general way, explain to the American people what is Article
Speaker 2: five of the US Constitution and how it might be
Speaker 2: applied today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you described the first part of Article five,
Speaker 3: which is where two thirds of both houses can gather
Speaker 3: together in Congress and propose an amendment, and then that
Speaker 3: amendment becomes a suggestion to the states, and it takes
Speaker 3: three quarters of the states or thirty eight states to ratify.
Speaker 3: There's a second method in the Constitution which says when
Speaker 3: two thirds of the states want to gather in convention,
Speaker 3: they can pass resolutions through their legislatures, no governor's signature required,
Speaker 3: just legislatures, and they can request together in convention to
Speaker 3: propose the men to the Constitution, same exact process. If
Speaker 3: they can get a majority of states to agree on
Speaker 3: a proposed amendment, then those amendments go out to the
Speaker 3: states for ratification, and it takes thirty eight states to
Speaker 3: ratify an amendment to the US Constitution.
Speaker 2: So how far along in the process are we sitting
Speaker 2: here in April of twenty twenty five you started many
Speaker 2: years ago, how many have signed up and how many
Speaker 2: more to go?
Speaker 3: So we are well over halfway We've got nineteen states
Speaker 3: that have done and I'm hoping for a couple more
Speaker 3: this year, including Ohio, So that would take us to
Speaker 3: twenty one, and that would leave us thirteen states. Shy
Speaker 3: of calling the first ever Convention of States in the
Speaker 3: history of the country.
Speaker 2: And what would be argued, Some have said this will
Speaker 2: be a disaster because it will open up everything and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you'll have more fighting, arguing and screaming,
Speaker 2: And then others say it's required. From my perspective, mark
Speaker 2: as a great American, the budget deficits and term limits
Speaker 2: for the House in the Senate are critical. Those two
Speaker 2: things explain our current fiscal situation that the convention this
Speaker 2: date might help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. Look, there's only three things
Speaker 3: that you can be discussed. One is anything that would
Speaker 3: impost term limits on DC and that includes Congress but
Speaker 3: also other federal officials like the Deep States staffers and bureaucrats.
Speaker 3: Second is anything that would impose fiscal restraints. And you
Speaker 3: mentioned the budget. We are going to have to balance
Speaker 3: that budget. That's not going to happen from Washington, DC.
Speaker 3: We're going to have to impose those restraints. And finally
Speaker 3: is the limitations on the scope of power and jurisdiction
Speaker 3: of the federal government, telling them things like so you
Speaker 3: may not be involved in education, or energy, or healthcare
Speaker 3: or the environment. These are things that were never intended
Speaker 3: for the federal government. That's power that's been usurped from
Speaker 3: the states, and we in the states are going to
Speaker 3: have to take that power back.
Speaker 2: And so if this thing of convention actually occurs, it
Speaker 2: is limited. You don't open up the whole thing. What
Speaker 2: you do is limited to only these three items, which
Speaker 2: I think most of the American people agree with, I
Speaker 2: would think correct. In otherwords, it wouldn't be unlimited about
Speaker 2: all these other extraneous matters.
Speaker 3: No, it's absolutely not unlimited.
Speaker 5: Unlimited.
Speaker 3: In fact, you can't get the convention until you have
Speaker 3: a supermajority of states that agree on those limitations in advance.
Speaker 3: And so this idea that somehow it could get completely
Speaker 3: out of control where you go into convention with the
Speaker 3: supermajority that agree these are the only things we can
Speaker 3: talk about. Anything outside of that would be outside the
Speaker 3: jurisdiction of the convention and can't even be discussed. And
Speaker 3: even if it were, remember, anything that comes out of
Speaker 3: convention is still just a suggestion and it has to
Speaker 3: be ratified by thirty eight states. So this idea of
Speaker 3: what they call, quot unquote a runaway convention is just crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a it's one of those canards that not
Speaker 2: based in reality, but it's a shout down those and
Speaker 2: you'd have to have blue states signing on to this thing.
Speaker 2: We don't have. Sadly, at this point two thirds of
Speaker 2: the states that have Democrats and the legislature. Why would
Speaker 2: the Democrats who are benefiting from the system currently want
Speaker 2: to sign on with the Republicans. Well, what's the argument
Speaker 2: for Democrat legislatures to sign on?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Travel around the country. I'm in Democrat legislatures all the time,
Speaker 3: and I talk to Democrats right now. They're especially interested
Speaker 3: in this because I say, do you like the idea
Speaker 3: of Donald Trump or a conservative Supreme Court or Republican
Speaker 3: Congress telling you what to do? Or do you want
Speaker 3: to have your own power in your own state? You know,
Speaker 3: first of all, I make sure i'm at least arms
Speaker 3: distance away because I don't want to get punched by
Speaker 3: a Democrat.
Speaker 2: But I follow a Democrat.
Speaker 3: But they hate the idea of Republican singing control in DC,
Speaker 3: and they like the idea res storing their own state sovereignty.
Speaker 3: For example, California. While it's very leftist, it doesn't want
Speaker 3: to hear from President Trump. He doesn't want to hear
Speaker 3: from the Supreme Court telling them what to do. This
Speaker 3: is truly bipartisan. The only thing that does is give
Speaker 3: power back to the states, and that means a state
Speaker 3: like Illinois is going to get its power in a
Speaker 3: state like Texas or Ohio going to get their power back,
Speaker 3: So it is not a partisan issue.
Speaker 2: Talk about the fiscal circumstance in America. Even though most
Speaker 2: of us in talk radio kind of enjoy the presidency
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump, we still have a thirty six trillion
Speaker 2: national debt, We still have one hundred trillion dollars or
Speaker 2: more and unfunded liabilities. We still have a yearly deficit
Speaker 2: of two trillion dollars, and it looks it's insoluble unless
Speaker 2: there's buy into the idea that we can't live like this,
Speaker 2: we can't live on a credit card. And in the
Speaker 2: next five years we're going to be close to fifty
Speaker 2: trillion dollars in deficits accumulated deficits, which means the interest
Speaker 2: on that will be close to two trillion dollars a year,
Speaker 2: which is unsustainable. And so just describe the physical health
Speaker 2: of this nation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think you've nailed it in one of
Speaker 3: the things that I want to make sure people are
Speaker 3: realistic about. God blessed Donald Trump and everything this is
Speaker 3: administration is trying to do. We're big supporters, but we
Speaker 3: also are realists. We understand that every single administration in
Speaker 3: the history of the United States, that includes Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan, and George Washington, with the only exception being
Speaker 3: Calvin Coolidge, every administration has grown the size of the
Speaker 3: scope of the federal government. And so we can't expect Washington,
Speaker 3: d c. To turn this ship around on its own.
Speaker 3: It's also contrary to human nature. It is very difficult
Speaker 3: to cut a dollar from the federal government because there's
Speaker 3: a constituency for every dollar. We're seeing this in just
Speaker 3: this absolute blowout from the deep state right now fighting
Speaker 3: back against Donald Trump. If we're going to do it,
Speaker 3: we're going to have to do it. They're not going
Speaker 3: to do it for us. And we can do this
Speaker 3: through a convention of faith. And by the way, if
Speaker 3: you if you tell folks who are in Congress book
Speaker 3: now you have a constitutional obligation to balance the budget,
Speaker 3: you can't do it by raising taxes or fees. Then
Speaker 3: they're going to do it, and they can tell they're
Speaker 3: consituency with no choice.
Speaker 2: As far as the unfinded liabilities, which are promises made
Speaker 2: by the government and the future, that number is north
Speaker 2: of one hundred trillion dollars. I look at some of
Speaker 2: the staggering numbers, and your eyes glaze over that. I
Speaker 2: think many Americans are mathematically challenged, and that a trillion
Speaker 2: dollars used to be a huge amount of money, and
Speaker 2: now it's become almost irrelevant. A billionaire and a billionaire
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. And our debt is funded by one of
Speaker 2: three reasons. One would be by grossly increasing taxes, which
Speaker 2: American people don't want. That two is to grossly cut
Speaker 2: federal spending and a lot of Americans don't like that,
Speaker 2: but I do. And the third reason is to print
Speaker 2: more money. Why is each of those three undesirable?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, first of all, taxes, we are already
Speaker 3: heavily burdened on taxes, especially the most productive people in
Speaker 3: the country. And when you tax, and especially when you
Speaker 3: tax income, you get less of whatever it is you taxed.
Speaker 3: In other words, if you tax people's incomes and tax
Speaker 3: it more and more heavily, you're going to get less
Speaker 3: and less income. That's just the nature of taxation. And
Speaker 3: we can only tax so much. In fact, if you
Speaker 3: were to not just tax, but seize the wealth of
Speaker 3: the richest one percent in America, it might, though I'm
Speaker 3: not quite sure, cover our deficit for a single year,
Speaker 3: and there just isn't enough money in the country to
Speaker 3: tax our way out of it. So that's a really
Speaker 3: important thing for people to understand that we get the
Speaker 3: thing of sort of eat the rich and tax the
Speaker 3: rich into the ground. Well, it's not going to solve
Speaker 3: our fiscal wlows. When we talk about unfunded liabilities. I
Speaker 3: think this is the giant elephant in the room that
Speaker 3: most people don't talk about. There is so much money
Speaker 3: that we've committed to and it is unsustainable, and there are,
Speaker 3: by the way, relatively simple fixes for this. We could
Speaker 3: push back the retirement age a few years. You know,
Speaker 3: when we set the retirement age, it was believed that
Speaker 3: the life expectancy in the United States of America was
Speaker 3: roughly sixty two to sixty five years, meaning most people
Speaker 3: would not collect Social Security for a very long time. Now,
Speaker 3: for a mail it's around eighty one years. So we've
Speaker 3: extended this out and we have less people paying the system.
Speaker 3: Mas is mass that's just unsustainable over the long haul.
Speaker 2: Another issue, of course, is term limits. We have it
Speaker 2: for the president. It would have been wise in the
Speaker 2: nineteen fifties to include the Congress. There's been proposals in
Speaker 2: the past for the Congress to cut off their own
Speaker 2: lifeline of money. It's amazing that Nancy Pelosi or Mitch
Speaker 2: McConnell can go into Congress worth nothing, they come out
Speaker 2: worth five hundred million dollars. It's incredible to watch that.
Speaker 2: And they do it because the favors being handed thither
Speaker 2: and fro, and so the Congress itself, Democrat or Republican,
Speaker 2: they never will vote to term limit themselves because that's
Speaker 2: the source of their money in the court, the source
Speaker 2: of the funding of their life. And am I correct
Speaker 2: to say Mark Meckler that there have been numerous attempts
Speaker 2: by generally conservative Republicans to limit the term limits, to
Speaker 2: make it eight years or twelve years, just pick some number,
Speaker 2: but the Congress themselves will never do this by themselves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's absolutely correct. In fact right now, Okay, the
Speaker 3: biggest champion of term limits in the United States government
Speaker 3: is Ted Cruz from my home state of Texas. He
Speaker 3: proposed the term limit still year. It never even gets
Speaker 3: a hearing, let alone getting voted on. It never makes
Speaker 3: it through committee, It never makes it to committee, and
Speaker 3: I would argue it never will and it never will
Speaker 3: because Republican or Democrat, most legislators are not willing to
Speaker 3: limit their own terms. That's human nature again, So if
Speaker 3: we want that done, we're going to have to impose
Speaker 3: this discipline bill. I like to use the example of
Speaker 3: you know, if you've ever raised teenagers, the idea that
Speaker 3: you would let your teenagers decide how much money the
Speaker 3: household spends, how much money they get to spend of
Speaker 3: your money, whether they can drink alcohol one year away,
Speaker 3: how long they can take your car and stay out
Speaker 3: all the rules for themselves. There's not going to be
Speaker 3: very many rules, and it's going to be a disaster.
Speaker 3: There's going to be chaos. We the American people, are
Speaker 3: the parents. We're in charge of our government. We're supposed
Speaker 3: to be sovereign. Unless we impose these controls on Congress
Speaker 3: and the president and our government, generally, the government's going
Speaker 3: to be out of control.
Speaker 2: I just got a text from the story and it
Speaker 2: told me that there was an effort when FDR went
Speaker 2: out of office, and he was in office elected four times,
Speaker 2: Democrats and Republicans said enough is enough, and they tried
Speaker 2: like crazy to include the Congress in that amendment to
Speaker 2: the Constitution, and the Congress itself would not vote it.
Speaker 2: It takes two thirds of the House, two thirds of
Speaker 2: the Senate, three fourths of the states, and the Congress
Speaker 2: itself would not vote to post the same rules on
Speaker 2: them they imposed upon the presidency. And I'm confident that
Speaker 2: if Barack Hussein Obama was that had the ability to
Speaker 2: run for a third or fourth term, he would have
Speaker 2: done it. Of course, when Biden was in office, that
Speaker 2: was Obama's third term, nonetheless, but it would go on
Speaker 2: forever and never stop. There was wisdom and keeping it
Speaker 2: to eight years, and there's great wisdom and keeping it
Speaker 2: to twelve years at the maximum, maybe eight years when
Speaker 2: it comes to the Congress. Lastly, the bureaucracy itself, the
Speaker 2: so called fourth Estate they're not dependent upon Republican Democrats.
Speaker 2: They're there forever And as I understand that your proposal
Speaker 2: Convention of the States would include that the bureaucracy itself,
Speaker 2: the agencies that essentially run the government.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's important. I call this the fauci
Speaker 3: of them, and nobody should ever sit in a position
Speaker 3: of power like that for the forty years in the
Speaker 3: federal government, completely unaccountable to the American people, unaccountable frankly
Speaker 3: even to Congress or the President. I see a lot
Speaker 3: of this in Washington, DC right now. We're seeing this
Speaker 3: deep state raise its ugly head. It's been around forever,
Speaker 3: it's going to continue to be around. And if we
Speaker 3: were to do term moments on Congress and not term
Speaker 3: moments on the bureaucracy, I think that would make things
Speaker 3: much worse.
Speaker 2: In fact, they'd be more powerful now. The leaking out
Speaker 2: of the Department of Defense, the chief of staff, others
Speaker 2: being fired because they're leaking constantly to the New York Times, etc.
Speaker 2: And it's constant leaking. And if these individuals understand that
Speaker 2: I'm here for eight to twelve years and I'm going
Speaker 2: to lose my power over the economy, over the environment,
Speaker 2: over the tax system. After eight to twelve years and
Speaker 2: have to go back into the fields and work, it
Speaker 2: would change their attitude completely. So I think it's wise
Speaker 2: to say you've got to include the fourth estate. Those
Speaker 2: working in the bureaucracy. Without that, they would have more power.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, they would have more power. Bill, I would
Speaker 3: add in one more and this is immensely popular with
Speaker 3: the American people. If you collect a paycheck from the
Speaker 3: federal government in any department, in any capacity, collected, appointed,
Speaker 3: or just as a job, then you should be prohibited
Speaker 3: forever from lobbying the federal government in any way.
Speaker 2: What about the federal judiciary? What about judges that we
Speaker 2: need forty hours?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need term limits there. To look at the
Speaker 3: time of the founding, when we said that that they
Speaker 3: have life terms, that term was never used. It doesn't
Speaker 3: say life terms. Everybody thinks it's for life. It says
Speaker 3: on good behavior. And back then, by the way, it
Speaker 3: was considered poor behavior. If he's freer in public, that
Speaker 3: would literally be enough to cause you to be removed
Speaker 3: from the bench. We never expected people to sit on
Speaker 3: bench thirty forty years when started. Average life expectancy for
Speaker 3: a male with fifty four years of age. Average appointment
Speaker 3: age was forty eight, and so we effected five or
Speaker 3: six years on the bench. I think we definitely need
Speaker 3: term limits for the federal bench.
Speaker 2: Otherwise they could not have anticipated in seventeen eighty seven
Speaker 2: that you're going to have judges on the bench into
Speaker 2: their eighties and beyond. And this thinking. They never conceived
Speaker 2: that no very.
Speaker 3: Few people lived that old back then, so they never
Speaker 3: conceived of that. They never conceived that anybody would want
Speaker 3: to do that. And so there are certain things that
Speaker 3: the framers just didn't foresee. Because the future changed, life
Speaker 3: expectancy changed, they could not have known these things. So
Speaker 3: we also, by the way, if you look at every
Speaker 3: study that's ever been done in the federal judiciary, it
Speaker 3: says that federal judges become more amenable to a large
Speaker 3: administrative state the longer they're on the bench. Again, human nature,
Speaker 3: they are part of that apparatus. Their offices are funded
Speaker 3: by the federal government, their staffs are funded by the
Speaker 3: federal government, so of course they become more and more
Speaker 3: friendly to the government over time.
Speaker 2: Generally speaking, Mark Meckler, how can the average American get involved?
Speaker 2: What is your website if any.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Convention of State dot com. Sign the petition, click
Speaker 3: the take action tab and you can follow me on
Speaker 3: x at Mark Meckler.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the website. But nineteen states have approved that.
Speaker 2: Ohio is ready to go. If a fake Ramaswami or
Speaker 2: David Yost, either one becomes the governor, both favorite Convention
Speaker 2: in the States, etc. It's going to happen, and it's
Speaker 2: getting closer. And all I can say is good luck.
Speaker 2: I have hope for Donald Trump to do it, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. It takes the people to arise. Mark Meckler,
Speaker 2: once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bill, God bless and God bless America. Thank
Speaker 2: you very much. Mark Meckler. Right there, it is how
Speaker 2: you can take governance in your own hands and do
Speaker 2: what's correct for the American people. We can't live like this.
Speaker 2: We can't live on a credit card. Republican and Democrats,
Speaker 2: We've been living on too many credit cards and it's
Speaker 2: got to stop. Bill Cunningham, the Grand American, live with
Speaker 2: you every Sunday night. My Billy cunning I'm the Grand American.
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening tonight. This week's going to be extremely consequential.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow morning at nine am, and what about seven or
Speaker 2: eight hours from now, you're going to have the President
Speaker 2: issue in order saying that the rest of the world
Speaker 2: is going to start paying for our legal pharmaceutical and
Speaker 2: drug pricing. We not pay for it all. The President
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday is going to be in
Speaker 2: cutter UAE in Saudi Arabia. We have the so called
Speaker 2: agreement that Hamas any moment's going to release Eaton Alexander,
Speaker 2: the only American hostage held and tortured by this murderous
Speaker 2: death cult known as Hamas, and then also will have Iran,
Speaker 2: allegedly on the customer making some sort of a deal.
Speaker 2: I'll believe that when I see it, because Iran is
Speaker 2: also controlled by a death cult who want to kill
Speaker 2: rather than live with anyone. And so, my gosh, and
Speaker 2: I want to wish nothing but the best for the
Speaker 2: new Pope Leo the fourteenth. If you have time, google
Speaker 2: Leo fourteenth World Series Chicago White Sox. There's a great
Speaker 2: clip of the future Pope. At that point, he was
Speaker 2: a dutiful priest in the stands at Comiskey Park, cheering
Speaker 2: on the White Sox to beat up on the Houston
Speaker 2: Astronomicals at that point in the National League. And he
Speaker 2: also is a great fan of the Philadelphia Eagles that
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl. So here we are and heading
Speaker 2: toward the mid of twenty twenty five. Number one, the
Speaker 2: Olympics are coming to Los Angeles. Number two, the World
Speaker 2: Cup coming to America. Number three, Donald Trump is in office.
Speaker 2: Number four, we have an American Pope. Those are the
Speaker 2: four heads right there. The Olympics, World Cup, the Pope,
Speaker 2: and Donald Trump make America great again. Believe me, it's happening.
Speaker 2: Bill cunning and the Great American with you every Sunday night.