Speaker 1: Hi, this is Christina and Carmen. This is the Spooky Tells.
The podcast for all things is Spooky, true Crime, hunted Places, smiths,
legends in Latin America. This month only spooky, only as
spooky because we're in costume. So yeah, only scary stories
this month. Today I'm going to be telling you about
theras and specifically because I want to talk about Thecabras
attacking Chile in the year two thousand, because I didn't
know that happened neither. But before we do that, a
listener story and if you want to send us your
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get us their stories is in the show notes. Carmen,
go ahead, alrighty, So this listener story is from Christy
Kruz and I love the alliteration. Me too. Hello, my
Spooky sisters. I really enjoy listening to your podcasts and
I would love to share a story of my own.
My name is Christy and back in nineteen ninety nine,
when I was just a kid, my family and I
lived near Fresno, California. It was me and my parents,
my brother, and mytha, who all lived under the same roof,
which is convenient for my parents because they love to
go out dancing Friday or Saturday nights, and they would
often ask my THEA to look after us. On these nights.
My THEA would spoil us with junk food and late
night movies until we fell asleep before my parents would
come home for the night. Sounds amazing, That sounds so fun.
My brother and I slept in the same room, on
the same bed, and on the opposite side was my
Thea's bed, with whom we also shared the room. Now,
there being three people in one room, two of them
literal children and the third person being in their late teens,
meant that the room was usually littered with dirty clothes
or clothes that just had n't been put away. It
had been exactly one of these party nights when in
the middle of it I woke up. I was laying
on my side when I noticed movement near the closet.
The room was dark except for the hall light coming
from below the door. So it took me a while
for my eyes to focus on what I was seeing.
It was a pair of pants. They were up and moving,
as if someone was actually wearing them. I saw shirts
and other pants up and moving in the same way.
They were just iron flat, but moving like they were
being worn by invisible people. It's hard to explain just
how surreal it seemed like it was in the middle
of a mall with bodies moving about their own business.
I was sitting up by this time, and I shook
my brother awake too. It took him a minute to
grasp what was happening, just like me. We didn't move,
and we didn't speak for another minute. Just watch these clothes, however,
around our room. Then, all at once, all of the
bodies of clothes turned to face us and floated slowly
toward toward us. And what the fuck? No, no, it
sounds like a horrifying scene from Fantasia. Suddenly, my brother
whipped off the covers, grabbed my arm, and pulled us
out of the bed. We raced to the bedroom door,
shot out, and quickly closed the door behind us. We
stopped to look back. I felt like we had escaped them.
You can't open the doors without hands right, but they
didn't need to open the door. The clothes flatly slid
out from underneath the door gap and continued towards us.
We bolted again, this time headed for our parents' room.
We raced in and climbed into their bed. Terrified. We
pleaded for them to wake up and turned on the lights,
but it took a while to come up from their sleep.
The clothes had begun peeking into the room. Finally, my
mother reached over and turned on the bedside lamp. Lighte
flooded the room, and all at once, the clothes dropped
to the floor, right where they had been hovering. My
parents hadn't seen anything. They were confused and asked us
what we were doing. My brother and I tried to explain,
but they said that clothes were always on the floor,
and why hadn't my thea been woking up By all this,
It was brushed off as a nightmare, and we were
only brought back to our bedroom. A year or two later,
we moved to Texas, except for my Thea, who went
off to a different state. As I grew up, my
mom noticed how much I was interested in watching or
learning about ghosts. She said, I was just like my thea,
but warned me not to play with Wuiji boards. She
said that idea. I used to mess with them back
when we lived in California. Well, then that might have
explained the nightmare. It's an old memory that both my
brother and I share, except he'swears he woke up first.
I love that. What a silly thing. Now, I woke
you up, bitch right, It's like, no, I woke up first? No, nah,
And then they just end by saying thank you for
reading my spookito and I look forward to your future episodes.
Oh that was crazy. Yeah, it feels like a fever dream.
I shared fever dream though. I don't like it. But yeah, like,
why didn't the wake up? Maybe because she did cause it?
She was the cause. Yeah, I don't like it, but
I love this story. I wouldn't like it if it
happened to me. I mean no, yeah, it'd be weird.
It reminds us of that picture our mom sent us
where there was a shirt that was talked about that
I don't think we have. Yeah, but our mom she
sent us videos and pictures. No, it was the day
she was particularly sad, you know, grieving about her dad
or grandpa being passed away and the shirt. I don't know.
I don't know at what point she noticed or she
saw it stand up, but it was like standing straight up. Yeah.
She even called us, like video chatted and like moved
the phone around to show that nothing was holding this up.
And it's like if someone was either holding it up
or like I mean, because it wasn't the full shape
of someone wearing it, but the shirt was standing basically
on the bed, so like nothing was going still flat.
Yeah yeah, but it was like, uh, it was so weird.
I showed my husband and he's all like, maybe it
starts straight, and I was like, my mom doesn't start
your clothes. Yeah, she doesn't use starch. Yeah, because if
it was starch, that would explain it. But again she
has no starch the house, which is wild, and there's
no explanation like what makes a shirt just stand up?
And there's there was other clothes I think on the
bed and that was the only one. That was the
only one, and like that, yes, like that all day
and then eventually her husband was like, all right, you
can like rest now, and then then she like he
was gonna touch it to like drop it. Himself and
it just fell after that. Yeah, like, I'm sorry, but nothing,
And it can't be fake because our mom is technologically inept. Yeah,
she doesn't know how to do that. She doesn't know
her Apple ID like the tiktoks. She can dance, but
she cannot remember her Apple. Yeah, she's a ten, but
she doesn't know how to log into Facebook. No, I
think she does, but I think if she weren't to
log out, she would ask us for help to log
back in. No, you're right, Yeah, you're right anyway. Yeah, wow,
that was crazy. Onto the Chupacabras. The chupac Cabras, that's
what we're talking about today. I already said it's because
I read randomly this tiny little head line. We're now
searching stories about the Chilean military fighting with the Chacabras
in two thousand and I was like, military, mm hmm.
But before we get to that, let's talk about the Chupacabras.
Contrary to what a lot of people believe, this is
not a Mexican legend. It did not originate in Mexico
because yeah, a lot of people think that. Yeah, I
used to think that same, Like another Mexican fave of ours,
La Yourona. The chupacabra does transcend borders. It is international.
There's stories all over Latin America, the US, Spain, the Philippines, China, Russia. Damn.
There have been chupacabra like stories for a long long time,
though even before the nineteen nineties. There's a vampire like
cryptive that sucks blood of animals called the Vambido de Moca.
I think I've talked about it on Patreon. I honestly
can't remember. If I haven't, I meant to, but that
was like a vampire type creature. But yeah, just bloodsucking
cryptids or entities have been around for a very long time.
But the actual chupacabras as we know it today has
its origins in Puerto Rico, and sightings were reported for
the very first time in nineteen eighty five, and descriptions
of the chupacabra change depending on location. In most of
Latin America, it is described as a well, Actually, before
I get into the description, what do you think it
looks like? Kerman? I've always pictured it like it's kind
of like a were wolf looking thing where it has
the option to stand on two legs but can also
run on four lengths or for whatever, and like Harry,
like a dog, like like werewolf, but uglier, you know,
like like monsterish looking maybe like a flea in Mangi looking,
you know, and more not like a wearable face or
dog face. But I've always pretty suit more like well,
like I said, more monster looking like alien or something. Okay,
interesting you have you have kind of combined both of
the different descriptions. I did listen to your first episode. Wait,
I already did a chupuk Autras episode. Didn't you almost
certain that I've never really checked. Well, no, because I'm
pretty sure. But now I'm wondering if I did. I
feel like you did because I remember you saying it
was from Puerto Rico, not from Mexico. Oh you know
what I think we did. There was an episode where
we did sightings of the Chupakada. Not really. You don't
remember this, no, oh my god? Hold on? Oh and
the suka ya yes, oh wow, huh I don't remember
talking about this. Well, hopefully I don't repeat any information back. Well,
I'm literally repeating what you said. Well, I'm wondering what
I even said in that episode. I don't do well,
I don't know when I shard on out already, but
so some of it may be repeated information. But descriptions
of the Chupakaa change depending on location, and most of
Latin America is described as a reptile alien like bean
green or gray, about the size of a small bear,
with a spiny back. These spiky things go from the
back of the head all the way to the tail,
and yes it has a tail. But in most of
the Southwest US described more like a dog MAINGI black again,
the size of like a big dog or a wolf
or something like that. I personally thought of it as
an alien like creature more than a dog, but both
descriptions are super common. In both descriptions, it has sharp
nails and like sharp vampire fings. Sometimes it has wings
as well. In both forms, the alien or the dog form,
it has wings and as many of our listeners already know,
but the name literally translates to goat sucker, chupa cabra
or cabras. Yeah. Also, some people say chewpac cabra and
other people say chewpac cabras. Both are not wrong. I've
heard both. Yeah, Yeah, it's just I personally think it
would be chepa cabras because it's sucking more than one goat.
I agree, Yeah, that's my take on it. Yeah, both
of them are right. What is wrong is writing latupa
cara because it's always ed cara, like Spanish is gendered
and it's just that's what it is, ra or cameras,
but not latupa cara. Did we want write it however
you want? Like it doesn't matter to me. Are people
like people are about it? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I mean
I see both. Yeah, okay. So in March nineteen ninety five,
eight sheep were discovered dead in Puerto Rico. All eight
were found to have three puncture wounds in the chest
area and to have been completely drained of blood, and
reports like these spread all over the island mainly and
began in two towns, Motobi's and Kobe's, both in like
the north central part of Puerto Rico, very green and mountainous,
And then a few months later, in August nineteen ninety five,
a woman named Madeleine Dolentino reported having seen the chupa cabras.
By this point in time, one hundred and fifty farm
animals and pets had been killed in Canovanas, where she's from,
but more all over and Madeleine's account is thought of
as the first sighting ever of the Chupacabras. So she
was in her house in Canovanas. It was in the
middle of August, and her mom came to wake her
up from a nap. She wanted her to come to
the window to look at what she had just seen.
So they went over together and they stared at the
window and they saw a creature jumping around in their yard.
It was about three feet tall. This later changes to
four to five feet tall, but her account, her first
account said three feet three feet tall, standing on two legs,
with dark eyes that protruded like they stick out. These
eyes spread to the sides, stink classic green alien eyes.
Its arms were drawn back like it was ready to attack,
and these arms that were ready to attack were long.
Each hand was made up of three skinny fingers. It
was covered in short hair like fur and had spikes
running down its back, and she and her mom watched
they jump away like a kangaroo, so like on its
hind legs. Over the next few weeks, thirty other people
in Kanovanas claimed to have seen the chupacabra swooping down
from the sky and jumping from treetop to treetop. Then
that November, on the nineteenth, there was another attack. This
time dozens of turkeys, rabbits, goats, cats, dogs, horses and
cows were dead damn And there was nothing to explain it,
just mysterious markings, like the other chupacabra attacks, the three
triangle shaped puncture marks. Also in November, a man and
saw the creature inside of his house. He claimed that
the chupacabras. So this creature had huge red eyes with
hairy arms, and it jumped through the window in his
kid's room, and it tore apart a teddy bear and
then jumped back out the window. Why wouldn't he do that?
He thought the bear was food. I don't know why.
I don't know. It all happened in seconds. And when
the man ran in the room, he saw the tupacabras
was already gone, and it had left behind a puddle
of slime, a single piece of rotten me on the windowsill.
Where do you meet from? I don't know, weird. Maybe
it was just sitting in his mouth and he was like,
and he just left it on the window sill. It
accidentally fell out of his mouth as he was running away. No, no,
he set it down. He's like, this is yeah, lamarking
is territory. He barfed it up right then and there. No,
that's weird. I don't know. I don't know where you
pulled it out of your ass, I guess. The following month,
a man named Missiel and These, a twenty five year
old college student, saw the chupacabras on his balcony before
it hopped away again like a kangaroo. As the sightings grew,
more details about what it looked like began to surface.
Its gray hair resembles that of a kangaroo or wolf.
It has three toed feet, red eyes, something's black, smells
like a wet dog, and leaves behind the smell of sulver. Sulver.
Then it didn't just attack farm animals in the dead
of night. Now there were reports of it attacking people,
ripping screens off windows, and attacking dogs at family picnics,
And damn, it's just terrorizing Puerto Rico. By the end
of nineteen ninety five, over one thousand animal deaths in
Puerto Rico were attributed to the chupacabras. How many deaths?
One thousand, oh one thousand animal deaths? Okay, yeah, but
sightings slowed down as the following year started. But that
was just in Puerto Rico. Everywhere else, animals and attacks
were just beginning in Nayar Eat and I want to
say this was ninety six or ninety seven, I can't remember,
but in Nayari, Mexico, over a dozen farm animals were
found dead, and of course the chupacaba was blamed, though
nobody saw it at that time, and then just reports
blew up and Aroobio not helped. They spread thesteria pagranda, Oh,
hysteria propaganda. I know it's said a weird yeah, wrong, Varian.
You weren't even gonna like correct it. No, I wasn't. No,
you were like what wow, Yeah, I don't care. I'm dying.
I'm gonna speak right when I'm tired. That's true, Correctly,
I don't speak correctly. Okay. Reports spread all over Mexico,
all of Central America, South America again, Russia, China, the US,
and once reports left Latin America, the alien like description
morphed into one that was more doglight, with possibly the
first dog like description coming from Bexar County, Texas in
two thousand and four. Interesting. Yeah, before it was just
that alien looking like reptilian description thing. So Devin McNally
was a farmer in Elmendorff when he encountered the strangest
thing he would ever see ever. He heard something outside.
When he looked through the window, he saw a doglike creature,
hairless but with like fangs, spikes on his back, and
it was chewing on a tree outside of his mobile home.
He ran outside with his shotgun and shot it dead,
and they never kept the body, so later he would
be like, oh, I regret not keeping it, like to
show to prove that's what he saw. And it's unclear
if he was the one who said it was a
chupakauda or if someone else did someone said it. It
spread like wildfire, and soon there was reports all over
Texas all describing a hairless, black like dog thing. Huge
things think like an evil shutdance quickly, you know, like
the dog the hairless mix like a bigger one and
just like more gross. Those are not a gross to
be they're just like ugly, an ugly version of that.
In two thousand and seven. Another person, a woman named
Phyllis Canyon, who owns a ranch in Querto Texas, also
claimed to have seen the chupac cabras. She said it
was about forty pounds with big ears, large fangs, hairless,
and it was like grayish blue. And before she saw it,
a bunch of our chickens had been dying, and she
was like, what is killing my chickens? None of them
have any blood left, and they all have these three
like bite marks on their necks, Like what's happening? And
so they attributed it to the chupac cabras, and reports
like that all over the state were coming out and
that this is where that Meiji dog like description comes from.
There's even a video that came out from Guero, Texas
from does an A. It went viral. People claimed it
was a Chepa cabras, but the show Faked or Fake
Paranormal Files determined that it was either a Mengi coyote
or a wolf or a coyote wolf hybrid, which I'm like, what,
that's a thing that's crazier than the chupacabras. Cool wolf.
Cool I was trying to go wyoa combine. It okay.
I was like, I don't know whatever. I was also
like everyone's working. I think you're starting, and so yeah,
that's a little bit about the chupacabras in Puerto Rico
and which I don't remember saying anything about. And so
I really this was all I remember. The Puerto Rico thing.
I think I remember some of those sightings and the descriptions. Wow, yeah, okay,
I really don't that's crazy. So yeah, that was that.
Let's talk about one strange signing from two thousand that
happened in Chile. So if any of the other things
were not new, this should be. No. Yeah, this I
don't know about, okay. So everything in Chile seemed to
have started after this night in took Capel. On the
night of April fourteenth, two thousand, the people that took
Cappell saw strange lights moving across the sky. The lights
came out of the clouds and then disappeared into the trees,
and some of the more curious townspeople went over to
where they had seen these lights the next morning, but
they saw nothing except dried vegetation that looked like it
had been flattened, like something landed on it. They were
not sure where to think of this. But in less
than two weeks after this weird thing, they saw weirder
things started happening around the country. So farm worker jose
Ismael Piinon was ready to call her night after a
long ass day. It was already eight pm and he
had checked with the other workers and they all said
that the farm animals were where they were supposed to be,
like put wave in the barn or behind the gate
or whatever, right wear. And when he looked, he was like, okay, well,
then tell me why there's a missing bull. I call bull. Yes,
And then he was like, I guess I gotta do
it myself. Like if you want somebody done right, you
have to do it yourself, you know that thing they say.
So he walked past the fields and spotted the bull.
It was right around it stopped to graze on some grass,
clearly having a great time, and he's like, you sent
up a bit. You were there the whole time. I
want to go home. So he started walking towards it,
but then he saw that the bull seemed to be
frozen in fear, suddenly out of nowhere, and wondering what
could be scaring the ball, he looked in the same
direction as it, and that's when he saw a bipedal
creature with large, pointy fings. It seemed like a big
monkey to him. It had black fingernails, large golden, luminous eyes,
and dark leathery wings on its back. Wow. And you
know what kind of these descriptions also made me think
kind of like a the Mothman. Yeah right, and you
know what, there was a lot of mothman stories from Chile.
Oh aa. It also makes me think of a gargoyle.
Oh yeah, yeah too. Yeah, and there was also a
strong musty odor. He ran back as fast as he could.
He's like nahna, nah nah, And he ran back and
released the hounds. He released the dogs hoping they would
scare off whatever this was. And the next morning one
of the dogs returned Oh no, with the blood stained neck,
but alive, and whatever it was seemed to have left.
But that same morning there were there were reports of
dead sheep on two nearby farms, and they, like the
other sightings, were drains of blood and had punctures on
their necks. Over the next month, reports continued. On May third,
two thousand, at one three am, Professor Leonard Romero Cascillo
was sleeping in her apartment in La in Concepcion when
she was suddenly woken up by the barking of some
dogs puppies that were living with her well in the
back of her house, and she also had a large,
fierce mastiff, and so they were all barking, and she
looked at what they could possibly be barking at. They
were all cowered, including her giant mastiff that shouldn't be
scared of many things. So they were all cowered against
the wall, barking, crying, seeking help, I guess, And she
saw what appeared to be a huge man, standing more
than two meters so six feet eight inches tall, and
the shoulder blades were split as if it had wings.
She woke her husband up, thinking, oh, my god, it's
like a person out there to man to man with wings.
He was like, I'm not getting up, I'm tired, I'm sleeping.
But then when she returned to the window, it was gone. Oh.
The next day her kids went out to buy some
groceries and they used a shortcut that went behind their building.
When they returned home and used this shortcut, they said
they had seen a dead dog in the alleyway. She
told her husband to go check, and this time he did,
and he said that it was a wooly beige colored
dog lying on the ground with two puncture marks in
the neck. The two puncture wounds were apparently the size
of a big pin and they were separated like there's
five centimeters between them, so like two things, basically the
space of two things. The body of this dog was
completely bloodless and light as a feather. And so they
attributed this to the Chupacabras, a team of carabineros, so
like the military or not the military. The police arrived
at the where all this took place. Yeah, they don't
have a good rap, especially during the Pinochet regime. That's
when I learned about them. Same anyway, a team of
caribintos doing their normal job to percaba duties. Yes, they
went and they took custody of this dog. They put
it in a large plastic bag and then they ordered
the family to remain silent so that they wouldn't panic
the town. Leanna was like, no, I'm scared. I have
young kids. I'm afraid that thing will come back, and
so I don't know word of the spread. Of course,
they took the dead dog to their like forensic lab
or whatever, and it was autop seed by pathologists. But
I don't know what became of that autopsyed like that
was never any support. But that same day there was
a reports of thirty five dead birds on a ranch
twelve kilometers away from where this happened. The family that
saw the thing, and this was in Pukon, on the
road leading to the village of Gaburuga. And yeah, same
description as before, puncture wounds, no blood in any of
these dead animals, but the estime, they have like cuts
all over their bodies, which I think other descriptions lack.
So that's interesting. Yeah, different, but it was attributed to
the Chupacapas either way. Then a few days after that,
in Santa Elena, the Godao, at eleven pm so thirty
three year old Alexandro Carnales was returning back to his
home after guarding his rabbit pens. As he took a
shortcut through an unlit alley, he felt something fall on
his back. He struggled with this thing that fell on
him and he managed to shine a flashlight on him
and he was stunned when he saw the man was
eight short, Yes, a short ape like creature with large
pointy things, black fingernails, large golden luminous eyes, and dark
leathery wings on its back. Interesting because other descriptions say
it's tall, yes, yeah, so like the one before said
it was tall, and now it's in Chile. Reports of
it is that is sure that it's ape like, yeah,
but in other places it was like not ape like,
so yeah, I don't know anyway. He also smelled like
a strong musty odor. During this the creature quickly ran
away disappeared into the darkness. He was screaming like crazy.
Other people found him screaming in a state of shock,
and they found deep scratches on his back, well all
of his body. But yeah, this would be then the
first chupacara attack of a person then in Tocopilla and
Los Arenales Erraza, Chile. This is now May twenty six
of that same year, two thousand, So it was nighttime.
Local residents heard strange howling and screeching noises in the area.
And at the same time that they heard that screeching,
there was a bunch of domesticated rabbits that were found
dead and again completely empty of blood. No blood in them.
And then someone else on Magayanis Street saw a strange
humanoid with bright with large, bright yellowish eyes that apparently
had like a hypnotic effect on him, which has not
been reported. It's like the first description of that. Yeah,
and another person saw a similar thing standing on top
of some rocks. The next night, a young couple was
parked in an isolated area making out. Hm, what else
do people do when they're parked in isolated areas? When suddenly, uh,
a humanoid figure covered with hair and large luminoe reddish
yellowish eyes, different piers but always a little bits okay,
always yeah, always bright eyes, okay, bushy tail. It appeared
in front of the vehicle and the woman and the
couple apparently received a telepathic message from what this chebucas. Okay, Now,
this is like I've never heard of this, but it
kind of lines up with the hypnotic effect a little bit, right.
This must be some evolved honestly, because it wasn't doing
this in Puerto Rico. It gets strong Mexico as it
goes to more and more countries, you know what, you
know what I think? So anyway, it was telling her
to open the car door and step outside, and she
was like okay, she was getting ready to open the door,
when suddenly she realized what she was doing and then panics.
They attempted to start the vehicle to leave, but like
they couldn't move, they were just frozen. Eventually they were
able to move and drive away, and the thing never
like attacked the car, like jumped on the car. And
but just this whole being frozen is weird, Yeah, a
little trippy. I don't like that suddenly has these powers.
So when did that happen? He's not allowed to do that.
And so by now federal law enforcement had no choice
but to get involved. They began to show up whenever
reports were being made, like earlier with that professor, how
they showed up and took the dog and then were like,
don't tell anybody, but she told everybody right, same thing.
So then May May turned into June and the attacks
did not stop. And now in June, in ba Chile,
when he heard his dogs barking like crazy, a security guard,
Louis Alberto Kalibar, grabbed a flashlight and a knife and
went out there to investigate, like why are they barking?
And suddenly the dogs became very very still, as if
frozen in fear. When he you know, flashed around his
flashlight or whatever you do with flashlights, he saw a
thing that was dark green that ran very quickly from
like tree to tree, and he felt a numbness overcome
his body. He dropped the flashlight and the knife because
he was not just numb but cold and dumb, like
something was making him do this. Okay, that's new. Also, right,
I don't like this like Diseney powers as they evolved. Yeah, yeah,
it's horrible. He managed to run back into his security
shack and the dogs ran with him, and they hit
with him. Good. Good. They were shaking in fear, and
he described the creature as having large, flopping ears, fluid
in nature, without a bone structure. Okay, that's different too.
Then gave it the appearance of a flexible mass that
moved around like a kangaroo, but without bones, like like
a noodlely wavy kangaroo. Yeah yeah, interesting, And it moved
around silently, and it was about one point thirty meters
in height. When is that one? Oh, this would match
with the previous descriptions. That's four feet. I was right,
I know a little bit a little bit. Yeah, I don't,
I don't. You were right, you were right? Four feet
and what three inches? Yeah? So four feet three inches tall.
And when he first saw it, it appears to have
been crouching down behind a bush. And then it's just
started moving around and I jumping from place to place.
But when he saw it behind the bush, it seemed
to have twist its body and never looked straight at him.
That's weird. Yeah, he didn't describe the weird order other
people describe. He also said he wasn't scared. He felt
no fear, but okay, like CROs in, like please, Okay,
he's just trying to break The encounter lasted about five minutes,
and it was about nine meters. They love their meters.
Let me check what that is feet? Thirty feet? Oh,
I'm just kidding. And then and he said the creature
was about nine meters or thirty feet away from him.
Thirty feet Yeah, I just guessed that right. Oh my god.
Oh oh I thought you looked it up. Bill. Oh shit, dude, dude,
twenty nine point six. Oh my god. If I have
a math wizard, who okay, miss genius over there? So yeah,
almost thirty feet away Carlon was right. He also said
it was it had like greenish hair that was five
to six centimeters. Also, yeah, although there are description descriptions
that would be greenish. Yeah. And even though he said
he wasn't scared or he felt no fear, he shared
his pants. No, but after the encounter he went to
see a doctor and he had lost about twenty pounds.
I mean, how could you not be scared, like it's
completely normal to be scared. Yeah, no, for sure. And so,
like I said earlier, the National Police became involved in
these investigations, but that wasn't enough either. And now and
now the military was also investigating and looking for this
thing or things plural could be more than one. Yeah,
I have to be this judson, mm hmm. And so
there are accounts of this for more than one person.
I just wrote down the one from reporter Marcille Campos Masa.
But there's other accounts that tell almost the same thing. Okay,
But sometime in June, a platoon of soldiers were deployed
to capture the Chupacabras. The unit. Uh huh, No, you're
gonna say something else, Okay, I just imagine being on
that like detail or that like mission, Like I would
have been like, I had to look for what? What
now you want me to do? What? The unit was
searching the desert near a mine north of Kalama, and
if you recall, Kalama was one of the sightings I
just shared. And so when they were in the mind,
they allegedly encountered three chupacabras. They opened fire on the creatures,
and during the attempt to capture them, one soldier died,
but they did it. They captured one male, one female,
and one nile. Yes not the baby. And the Chilean
military has never discussed this matter. But according to not
just this reporter, there's more reports. Again, this is just
the only one I wrote down. There was more. There's
more to comanats, there's more to this. Oh yeah, more
to this, yes, yes. Two days after this occurrence, another
soldier saw a short, hairy creature that could jump a
great distance and then he saw it soar like it
jumped up and sore because it had like a pair
of wings. That was girl that I went on since
they found them all, yeah, I was like, what do
you mean? I forgot there was a family of involved. Wow, No,
it just like flew past me like theras, I like
that and like that. Anyway, the soldier ran back to
the commanding officers to tell him what he had seen,
and then another patrol was sent out to search for
this creature. And then this squad came across eggs in
a pit. Eggs I was picturing like a mammal. Yeah,
apparently it lays eggs. They took these eggs back to
the base, and at the same time that this happened,
another squad that was also patrolling got into a firefight
with another chupac camera. This is oh, sorry, there was.
So they killed two in this occurrence, and then they
captured a third one. So this is which is a
whole family, extended family of chupacavras. So they killed two
and they captured a third one and they took it
back to their base. So now allegedly they have four
chupac cameras and eggs in their custody. But apparently NASA
was also interested, and allegedly, a couple of days after
the capture of these chupacabras and the eggs to Boeing
seven to seven sorry seven six seven cargo planes landed
at the Santiago Arturo Merino Benitez Airport, and these containers
inside these cargo planes were marked or there was containers
inside the cargo planes that were marked with like a
NASA logo, and then it had top secret now him
I just said. And then from this airport, a team
exited this cargo plane and they entered a helicopter and
then went to the base, and the local airport was
shut down. Like there's reports of people being angry about
the airport being shut down, like they're like, what the fuck,
I can catch my plane exactly, And it was never
confirmed why I was shut down, but people think now
that it has to do with NASA. They died on
the base, yes, and taking the chupacabras the eggs. I
will add here that the other reports of this happening
don't say anything about eggs. The one I'm sharing is
the only one that mentions my eggs. So that's what
they differ. Okay, residents of Kalama and Iraq communities blamed. Well,
after all this happened, the residents of Kalama and basically
all of Chile began to blame NASA for the apparitions
and attacks. Why because they believed some residents believe that
the Chupacabras was a result of a diabolical genetic experiment
gone wrong, done by NASA or some other US agency. Oh,
because it came to get them. Yeah, oh yeah. One
respected Chilean architect who was quoted saying the following, But
I don't know his name because the thing I read
didn't have is just some respected architect. Yeah, he said,
quote the Gringos had at least three genetic experiments run
away from them, and quote I don't know how he
knew that, but yeah, that's when he said insider information.
And you know what, I believe him. No, No, I
don't know. I don't know. So speaking of this like
someone believing that it was the US who created the chupakara.
People have said this about Puerto Rico too, because there
was a military base not far from where Madeline first
reported seeing it. So some people believe this theory of
it me having been an experiment gone wrong. I think
it makes sense to have that theory, honestly, after all
the things that they've done. I mean, we learned last
episode that they faked legends and myths to scare away
yeah communists, and so yeah, nothing is far fetch anymore.
And for those that do believe this theory, they're not
swayed when NASA is like, no, this isn't true because
if it were, if they were, if it did happen,
why would they tell us, right, Like, why would they
admit or not admit? Like you know, so either way
it doesn't like help them, right either way they believe
the conspiracy. Yes, yes, so that's one theory on the CHUPACABRAA.
Now we're going into theories of what the chupacara is.
Those are the sightings of Chile and that was the
Chile attack. Anything to say before we go into the theories. No, okay, well,
I want to say, now that was interesting. I didn't
know any of that happened in Chile, Like obviously we
knew about the chupacada, but I didn't know about it
being in all these other places or it being in
Chile specifically. Okay, So that was one deebuccan theory of
the chupacabada or one theory explaining the chupac cava that
it is an experiment gone wrong by the US Sometimes
the agency changes, but like in Chile, it was NASA
sometimes it's the military. So another debunking theory. There's a
book called Track in the Chupacabada, The Vampire Beast in Fact,
fiction or Folklore by Benjamin Radford, and this provides a
ton of us that basically says all the attacks reported
in Puerto Rico, and like the US or just coyote attacks,
none of the animals that had been said to have
their blood gone actually had their blood gone. Yeah, it
was still there. It's just that sometimes when like things die,
people die, animals die, the blood pools at the bottom
and makes this effect of their not being any And
that's what he's explaining this ass and one thing that
he was the one who I think first wrote down.
He went and talked to Madeline, the person who saw
the first sighting, and he discovered that she had just
seen the nineteen ninety five movie Species. Oh, I've heard
of this from the last episode, which I don't remember sharing.
I don't. I mean, I could be get confused, because
I remember I listened to the other tub episodes, but
that basically people watched this movie and then they completed
like the things, they watched this movie. Yeah, yeah, she
watched this movie and when you look outside by side pictures.
I'll put some description video. Yeah, it looks pretty pretty
like they both have spikes running along their back, a
long face, bipedal, long skinny fingers, white alien eyes, like, yeah,
this looks like it for sure. And yeah, she had
just seen the movie before she saw what she saw. Yeah,
she just cared from the movie and then spread this rumor.
Yeah something, that's that's another way that this has been debunked. Yeah,
and then there's another theory. Well, okay, so that that
explains Porto Rico and almost all of that in America,
that that's it looks like that creature from a species.
The other one from the Texas signings and US signings
where it looks more like a dog that has been
explained to us, like literally it's the coyote, coyote wolf
or a hybrid of the two creatures. So that's how
that was debunked. There's another thing out there that the
chupacabras is real, but it's actually an alien and there
there is a ton of reports of sightings that have
also like been preceded by a UFO sighting, which would
be the case in Chile as well, Like people saw
a weird light and then all the attacks happened. And
that's not the only place, Like in El Yunke, the
Junke area of Puerto Rico, there's a bunch of alien sightings.
But there was also in the nineteen nineties a bunch
of chupacabra sightings in the same area, and a lot
of times people saw like what they consider a ufo
before the chupacabra allegedly attacked something. So yeah, those are
the explanations, and yeah, that was the chupras. I guess
two point zero because apparently we already talked about it.
I can't maybe you don't remember this. I think you
should go back and listen to them. And I think
I don't even want to because I don't know what
I already said. But I think ause MJ must have
done the other notes. Yeah, and I don't know what
she and I since I didn't do them. Well, they
remember these things when I work on them, and I
didn't do those notes. So I literally thought this was
all new note Yeah, that part is you. Yeah, it
was need for sure. I know that the alien thing
I remembered from them. Yeah, well let us know. And
I'm sorry, no, I don't know how much I repeatd Okay,
so well, what theory do you believe? Well, the part
of me that believes in the paranormal wants to believe.
The alien part, the logical part of me that is
a little less, but it's there. It would be that
she did c species and saw something. Yeah, that could
have been something else, but she saw the creature from
species in whatever that night. That's what I either one
of those. Yeah. I sometimes I feel like people want
to force everything to be an alien. So I don't
like that theory, true, Okay, I think that if it's
not real, then it's the main g coyote theory. Okay, okay.
The other one I would choose if I hadn't a
ready chosen the experiment. Yes, yeah, yeah, sorry you know. Yeah,
soone should write not me because I can't write, soone
should write that. Yeah. And really in the end that
Chaka all he needed was love and like a Frankenstein retelling.
But it's the experiment. What Yes, Yeah, I love that. Okay,
that was our topic. We will take a break and
come back with spooky recommendations, and we're back. Do you
have any spooky recommendations? I don't think, so, oh my god,
what are you reading. Well, I've been the I finished Junie.
I've been reading the Border Patrol Book. I even took
a break from the Possession of a Madias. Also, we
have both finished the Bewitch. Oh yeah, should we send
out discussion questions for it? Maybe? Yeah? Okay, okay, let
me see what have we finished anything else? Yeah? So
I've been reading the Border Patrol History book and I'm
currently Oh okay, I did finish a horror book. I
was like, I know, I listened to something else after
Juni I just finished listening will not finish. A few
days ago, I finished listening to Ringshout by P. Jolly
Clark and it's a shore it's like a novella. So
audiobook is only five hours and thirty six minutes. Oh,
I didn't know that. And yeah, I don't know how
long actually is, but novellas tend to be pretty short. Yeah,
but yeah, it's like I found it because now I
think I saw I like some social media like it's
like if you liked Sinners, you will like these books.
And that's where I first seen it. But let me
just read the description real quick. In America, Demons were
White Hooks in nineteen fifteen, The Birth of a Nation
cast a spell across the Marria, swelling the clans rings
and drinking deep from the darkest thoughts of white folk.
All across the nation, they write, spreading fear and violence
among the vulnerable. They plan to bring hell to Earth,
but even ku Kluxes can die. Standing in their way
is Marie Burdeaux and her fellow resistance fighters, a foul
Mouse sharpshooter and a Harlem hell fighter orange with a blade,
bullet and bomb. They hunt their hunters and send the
clans demons straight to Hell. But something awful brewing in Macon. Macon,
I don't know, and I did the last time. Yeah,
and the war on Hell is poto heat up. Can
Marie sample clan before it ends the world. So it's
like historical fiction horror fantasy type where yeah, the KKK
they're like demons or monsters, and the ku Kluxes are
like KKK members who have turned into these like demon
monster things, so they're like even worse than normal AKK members. Wow,
that's yeah. And yeah, they're basically they're like KKK or
Kukluks hunters. And it was interesting, I was entertaining. I
will say I might have. Well, the audio book was
good because the narrator is really good to like a
different accents and doing different voices for the characters. But
sometimes when too much is going on, I have a
hard time following and not to rewind audiobooks, like I
think some people have an ear for audiobooks. I have
to try really hard with audiobooks, like it was reading, well,
that's me with audiobooks then, and so I feel like
and almost with everything, I'm like, oh, I wish I
would have read it, But who was the time to
read a books? You know what I mean? Yeah, listening
is so much faster. Plus I like to listen when
I'm walking whatever doing other stuff. So I don't know,
it was good. It was really good. I has seen
some people that are like, oh, but depicting the KKK
as the monsters takes away from their you know, like
the actual movement, And I'm like, it's a horror book.
Shut up, what's a historical fiction horror book? Right? And
they don't. They still talk about the realities of the KIK.
They're not saying like, oh, they're just monsters, So it's okay.
That they act all like this because they're not, you
know what I mean? They still they talk about the racism,
they talk about like everything in the book. So it's
not like excusing the hands monsters. To me, that's not
how I took it. No, I agree, I haven't read it,
but I feel like as human beings here in twenty
twenty five, we should know how horrible they are already
with now having to be like, well, we need to
talk about how really horrible they are instead of making
them actual monsters. And it's like were wed? No, I mean, yeah,
how do you not know by now? And I like
the tie in with the birth of a nation like
casting a spell over, because we know the birth of
the nation re revived, right, and so it was like
a tie in with these horror and fantastical aspects that
I just I don't know. I really like that. Yeah,
And I don't know. I love a speculative fiction take
on a real life thing, and that's what this is
because it doesn't minimize then take away. To me, No,
it's another few another what am I looking for? A yeah,
another way to talk about these things. Yeah, but then
you get to change the narrative and the story and
maybe make it into something. Yeah else and so yeah,
I don't see that. I don't see that at all.
I thought it was really good. I think you're like
it and people would enjoy it all right. Still, I
still have yet to request it, so I need to
do it before the whole list gets even longer. I
can't believe you get that many holds. Yeah, it's great.
I have a spooky recommendation I was trying to think of.
I had two or not. Well, one is not spooky,
but it is a thriller crime type book that I'm
still reading. But so far it's so good. I can't
imagine that. I'm not going to recommend it. But Razor
Blade tears By s A Cosby. I've heard good things
about it. I might almost done with it now. I
started it yesterday and that's like literally all I've been
listening to do. It's so good. I'm not gonna say
anything else because I'm going to give it its own
little section on the next recommendation. But I have been
reading that and I've been loving it. And then my
actual spooky recommendation, I would recommend it to a certain person,
not to everyone. If you like a bleak slow burn.
I was like what I'm looking for. If you like
a bleak slow burn, that is just like terrible and
there's nothing good at the end. Yeah, but I might
be too slow for you. Oh it might be like
you're going to be like nothing happened, but to a
movie nothing happened, but everything happened. Yes, it's a movie.
It's called Someone's Okay. I there is a US version
of this. I want to say, it's US version. We
are what we are. It's really yeah, US version. It
was like a re make, which some people say it's better,
some people say it's worse. I haven't seen it, so
I don't know. It's almost look at I is set in.
I want to say, it's to that Mexico and there's
cannibalism involved. Okay. Basically, a family loses the father and
now that the father is gone, they have to scramble
to figure out who is in charge of the family
because they have to do this ritual that involves cannibalism
or there or they will die or they think they
will die. Oh that's what these kids have been told. Damn.
And the ritual does involve cannibalism. Oh, and you just
go through this movie following this family trying to figure
it out. But it's bleak. It's bleak because it's like
obviously like like even like Ringshow horror is used as
a tool to comment things that have happened or society,
and it's a great tool for that. It's a great
way to do that, one might say, the best way
to do that. One would agree, yes, And so this
movie is using this premise to talk about the like
underbelly of society, the poor, the homeless, sex workers, the
corruption of the police within Mexico, and how when these
things are left ignored, they're just gonna like eat each
other alive quite literally because of the cannibalism aspects in
the movie. You see what it did there. So yeah,
that part of it was interesting. I wouldn't say it
was like perfect, Like no movie. I mean some movies
are like Sinners. To me, Sinners is the five out
of five. I would rate this one like a three
point five out of five. But it's worth watching. It
was It's again if you're okay with the bleak slowness
of the movie, because it takes a while for things
to start going, which I'm okay with. But like I
think that like using it. Like Wessa, I don't think
you would like this movie, but said I was dumb again,
you know what I feel like. I like a slow
burn in books more than movies because I can't sit
there watching for some reason. I don't know that one
was so slow, though You're right, maybe I wouldn't like. Yeah,
I don't. I don't think you would like this, but
someone out there might, which is why I'm like, I
have to mention that it is very slow and bleak.
But but yeah it was. I was like, wow, that
was good when I was done, So yeah, wow. I've
been trying to check out way more Mexim Mexican see that.
I've literally only been renting Mexican horror, so noise, I've
got a list going. Next, I'm going to check out
The Untamed. But yeah, that's my speaker recommendation so much
lokay I and I will make a separate video about it, okay. Yeah.
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