Speaker 1: Callaroga Shark Media find they own Johnny Mack with your
Speaker 1: daily comedy news. The media has changed so much. John Mulaney,
Speaker 1: as part of his press tour, I mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: he did CBS this morning, and I'm like, that just
Speaker 1: seems weird to me. But we live so long that
Speaker 1: it also seems weird to me that John Mulaney did
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone, like in nineteen eighty five. Ooh, John Mulaney's
Speaker 1: on the cover of Rolling Stone. Let me see what
Speaker 1: he's up to. Ooh, a Van Hagar article I'll read that.
Speaker 1: Can't believe David ly Roth quit the band shocking Anyway,
Speaker 1: mullany talk to Rolling Stone. They tell us it's the
Speaker 1: Last Word column where pop culture icons reflect on their work,
Speaker 1: success and the lessons they've learned along the way. Okay,
Speaker 1: John said, please feel free to include literally anything we discussed,
Speaker 1: because it'll be far more interesting than anything about my career.
Speaker 1: They asked John what are the important rules that he
Speaker 1: lives by. His answer, never planned more than three months
Speaker 1: in the future. Live by, not work by dony crackers
Speaker 1: or anything like that. In bed, even if you keep
Speaker 1: the plate run under your chin, they'll on up at
Speaker 1: your feet and an easy one. But nobody knows nothing.
Speaker 1: No one's an expert. We have a complete inability to
Speaker 1: ever discuss scenarios that actually will happen, and we're off
Speaker 1: on the wrong thread. He told an example one of
Speaker 1: my first agents we had to call in two thousand
Speaker 1: and five with ABC. They were hearing pitches from comedians
Speaker 1: that were twenty three years old, and I asked him
Speaker 1: what kind of shows do they want? And he paused
Speaker 1: and said, oh, they want hits. That really stuck with me, like,
Speaker 1: oh right, they just want whatever would work, and they
Speaker 1: want the thing that no one else would do that
Speaker 1: it seems like it won't work, but that works. I
Speaker 1: used to laugh. When I was younger, people would be
Speaker 1: like's your girlfriend pretty? I'd be like, what kind of
Speaker 1: question is that? No? All I can get is trolls.
Speaker 1: I'm lucky I even have this one. Me'laney said. The
Speaker 1: horse being a loose in a hospital joke was about Trump,
Speaker 1: but it's more about a joke about how we're not
Speaker 1: good at predicting anything. Seven minutes before nine to eleven,
Speaker 1: we're all looking for Chondra Levy. We're just not really
Speaker 1: on it. We've never been on it. I guess they
Speaker 1: were these psychics back in the day that would make
Speaker 1: their New Year's predictions some of them won't contrue, but
Speaker 1: that's probably not true either. Best advice John mulaney ever received,
Speaker 1: my dad told me, if you're on the phone with
Speaker 1: someone in a business conversation you don't like what they're
Speaker 1: saying or how they're counting, just say nothing. Silence makes
Speaker 1: people crazy. They'll pause waiting for you to talk. You won't.
Speaker 1: Then they'll continue to talk and they'll go are you
Speaker 1: still there? And you go, uh huh, and then they'll
Speaker 1: start talking again. He goes, they'll probably walk back everything
Speaker 1: they said, or meet you with the terms you wanted,
Speaker 1: or they might even go above what you wanted because
Speaker 1: they're so uncomfortable. John admits to trying that in his
Speaker 1: career and it working. Worst advice John Mullenie ever get.
Speaker 1: I won't name them, but in twenty fifteen, an extremely
Speaker 1: powerful person in Hollywood was telling me that I always
Speaker 1: have to own all my IP which is not possible.
Speaker 1: The guy's looking at me and he goes, I know
Speaker 1: people were famous, not rich, and they're miserable. And I
Speaker 1: know people were rich and not famous and I John
Speaker 1: Mulaney say, and they're happy, and he goes, no, they're miserable.
Speaker 1: And he looks at me and goes, you need both.
Speaker 1: You need to be rich and famous. It was like
Speaker 1: a parody of meeting this person. I was like, is
Speaker 1: this a cut scene from The Devil's Advocate? Good question
Speaker 1: here from Rolling Stone? What advice would you give to
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight John mullaney, who's auditioning for SNL
Speaker 1: and working on his first special, The advice as soon
Speaker 1: as you're ready to leave SNL, stay one more year.
Speaker 1: I wish I had. I didn't realize that when you
Speaker 1: feel burnt out, that's not the moment to make a
Speaker 1: decision like that. In terms of other stuff. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of twists in terms of my life after that,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if the advice would have stuck.
Speaker 1: Funny answer here, what do you wish somebody would have
Speaker 1: told you about being a celebrity growing up? Mulaney said.
Speaker 1: I would have said to my child's self, it's exactly
Speaker 1: like you picture it. And I would have said to
Speaker 1: my twenty year old self, it's exactly like you picture it.
Speaker 1: Best and worst parts of success. Melleney said, The best
Speaker 1: part's easy, it's what you think. The worst part is
Speaker 1: your instincts were rewarded, but your instincts aren't always right, John,
Speaker 1: do you get imposter syndrome? No, listen. One of my
Speaker 1: problems is not that I don't feel really at home
Speaker 1: doing entertainment. I have other problems. Then they talked about
Speaker 1: the infamous rehab skipping ahead and have you heard of
Speaker 1: Chekhov's Gun? This is Chehov's podcast. Mulaney said, I like
Speaker 1: David Lee Roth's bluegrass albums of covers, which is called
Speaker 1: Strman with the Devil from two thousand and six. I'm
Speaker 1: embarrassed to say it's kind of in my shuffle. Terry
Speaker 1: Gros said Bill Burr on her NPR podcast, Good question
Speaker 1: build us. This special market change in your public or
Speaker 1: private self the topic, and I've been talking about this
Speaker 1: all week, kind of the new Bill Berber said, it's
Speaker 1: something I've kind of been going towards. But like most
Speaker 1: people that get on stage, they sort of watch what
Speaker 1: you do and then think this little sliver of you
Speaker 1: is what you are or whatever, like the Rolling Stone
Speaker 1: thing saying that I was the King of Rage comedy,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's in rolling Stones, so everybody listens
Speaker 1: to it. So then I think I'm just walking around
Speaker 1: just fearus all the time. It's two dimensional. I'll jump
Speaker 1: in there. I've been in the podcasting industry getting a
Speaker 1: fair amount of attention in the first quarter because I
Speaker 1: have the sub stack and it's free and link in
Speaker 1: the show notes, and I've been, as I call it,
Speaker 1: throwing fastballs on the substack. I'm commenting on the podcasting
Speaker 1: industry and I'm just throwing heat, nothing but heat, and
Speaker 1: people are paying attention. And then, as I wrote in
Speaker 1: the substack, when you go, hey, look at me, you
Speaker 1: can't be upset that people are looking at you. However,
Speaker 1: then I get invited on podcasts about podcasting, and the
Speaker 1: first thing I say is I'm glad we're here to
Speaker 1: have a new onance conversation, so you can hear the
Speaker 1: tone of voice. And don't think I'm walking around kicking
Speaker 1: garbage cans all day going. I can't believe everybody's making
Speaker 1: video podcast girl, I'm not like that at all. So
Speaker 1: I totally hear what Burr is saying about your public persona,
Speaker 1: including Johnny Mack, who is ninety nine percent John McDermott,
Speaker 1: I'll explain. Johnny Mack clearly doesn't like Adam Sandler movies, right,
Speaker 1: John McDermott also doesn't like Adam Sandler movies. But I
Speaker 1: don't walk around going all day. I can't leave Netflix,
Speaker 1: cave Adam Sandler another deal, Like, I just don't care
Speaker 1: and I move on with my life. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's a podcast. I'm trying to be entertaining, so maybe
Speaker 1: I ramp it up a little bit. Back to Burr,
Speaker 1: there's also part of me that really hates the fact
Speaker 1: that I've been so angry and had a temper and stuff.
Speaker 1: It was never something I wanted to be and something
Speaker 1: I grew up with, and you know, you think to yourself,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I'm not gonna be this person
Speaker 1: because they're making me feel bad as a kid, and
Speaker 1: then you grow up and you end up. It's a
Speaker 1: weird thing. Gross asked, who's the person who told you
Speaker 1: was your wife a therapist? Burr said, everybody in my life,
Speaker 1: everybody people reviewing my act, my wife. You know, like,
Speaker 1: you can only argue point for so long when one
Speaker 1: hundred people in the row are going like, nah, you're
Speaker 1: pretty angry. Good Stuff. I haven't been able to live
Speaker 1: to that one yet, but it's definitely in my cue.
Speaker 1: Good show in Los Angeles tonight is a benefit concert
Speaker 1: called Let's Get Laid, Get It Elaid, Yes Well, combined
Speaker 1: stand up comedy and live music. It's at the United
Speaker 1: Theater Weird Now, Margaret Show, Bob the Drag Queen Al Jardine.
Speaker 1: As I've joked before, I assume it's the Beach Boys,
Speaker 1: Al Jardine and not some comedian off my radar. Alex Edelman,
Speaker 1: Chris Fleming, Eric Idol, Maria Bamford, Mark Prosch, and Neil
Speaker 1: Hamburger will make appearances. Other guests include Paul Schaeffer, Peter Asher, Puddles,
Speaker 1: Pity Party, Reggie Watts, Rufus Wainwright, and Tim Heidecker. That
Speaker 1: is a great, great lineup a night of music and
Speaker 1: comedy for La wildfire relief. Proceeds will benefit firefighters who
Speaker 1: battled the various fighters as well as those who've been displaced.
Speaker 1: The Houston Press caught up with Tom Papa and asked
Speaker 1: Tom about growing up in New Jersey. And this is
Speaker 1: such a stereotypical New Jersey question that I love that
Speaker 1: the Houston people asked it, Tom Papa. Being from New Jersey,
Speaker 1: how much was Bruce Springsteen's chef in your face? Tom
Speaker 1: Papa said, didn't feel shoved, does so much as it
Speaker 1: was a presence like everything else. You had the skyline
Speaker 1: of New York in the distance, the Jersey Shore waiting
Speaker 1: down south, and Springsteen was the soundtrack everywhere he went.
Speaker 1: When I was in high school, he was hitting the
Speaker 1: peak of his fame, so it was kind of cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pop is my age, so yeah, born in the USA. Big.
Speaker 1: Then Springsteen had the Lost Years that the big reunion
Speaker 1: in two thousand. I know, I personally won tour, saw
Speaker 1: twelve shows. You drive up and down the Garden State
Speaker 1: Parkway in the summer listening to Bruce, it just sounds right, Absolutely,
Speaker 1: Papa says, New Jersey's always been a punchline. I always
Speaker 1: said the reason I was a comedian is you had
Speaker 1: a good sense of humor about yourself being from New Jersey.
Speaker 1: What music is Tom Papa listening to? He says he
Speaker 1: still listens to Arim and Prince, but he's left Culture
Speaker 1: Club and Duran Duran in the eighties. Dude, Deuran Duran
Speaker 1: is fantastic. Tom put On Rio and Hungry Like the Wolf.
Speaker 1: Come on, those are bangers, as the kids say. Tom
Speaker 1: also loves Ren DMC and Public Enemy, but says, now,
Speaker 1: I guess jazz is the thing I listen to that now,
Speaker 1: But I would hope that the young Tom would understand
Speaker 1: that someday he understand jazz. Kevin Hart has revealed that
Speaker 1: he's traded in jeans for all bands, all slacks after
Speaker 1: turning forty years old. He was on with Jennifer Hudson
Speaker 1: and he said, I'm over forty. I feel like a
Speaker 1: good pant is necessary. Jeans aren't the same. Jean's hurt
Speaker 1: and are not comfortable. Sam Morel talked about the Error's
Speaker 1: tour to w AMC. He's on a bus. Sam says
Speaker 1: it's a pretty efficient way to travel because you see
Speaker 1: what happens with airplanes now and just the stress of
Speaker 1: misflights and all that. You eliminate that, so that's nice.
Speaker 1: When my daughter was in school in Chicago, I used
Speaker 1: to drive from New Jersey to Chicago. People thought I
Speaker 1: was insane, and I'm like, dude, by the time I
Speaker 1: got to the airport and the delays and all that,
Speaker 1: I'm halfway there anyway, and that's when I would catch
Speaker 1: up on my podcast. I would like to drive Chicago
Speaker 1: right now. I could listen to Bill Burr with Torry Gross.
Speaker 1: Sam talked about the country at this particular moment in
Speaker 1: Times and Your Letters to Sam Morrel. He said, I mean,
Speaker 1: you see how toxic everything is on the internet, and
Speaker 1: now bad everything is on the news, now mean and
Speaker 1: racist everyone is on Twitter. And then you go into
Speaker 1: like a cafe and you're like, I think it's all right.
Speaker 1: You know, it's confusing because you just go around things
Speaker 1: seem to be okay, but you know things are tough
Speaker 1: from short Old Phil Wang is going to host the
Speaker 1: BAFTA Games Awards for the second year in a row.
Speaker 1: Video games we're talking about here. Phil said, I'm so
Speaker 1: thrilled to be returning as host of this year's BAFTA
Speaker 1: Games Awards. Last year's show with such an uplifting celebration
Speaker 1: of this incredible industry. Blah blah blah. I played games
Speaker 1: all my life, and these awards feel like my opportunity
Speaker 1: to think the people who made them. Because of games,
Speaker 1: I never had time to learn the guitar well enough
Speaker 1: to play at house parties, and I think that is
Speaker 1: a public service thank you games. C two E two
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five announce their comedy track. C two E
Speaker 1: two will be in Chicago April eleventh, of thirteenth. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'll do one of those twelve hour drives. Who knows.
Speaker 1: Paton Oswalt's will be on the main stage Friday, April eleventh,
Speaker 1: eight p m. Also doing an appearance Second Cities Live
Speaker 1: Improv Group. That's exciting. And that's your comedy news for today.
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