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much for your support. So last hour we were talking

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a little bit about the perception of safety in uptown

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and crime and that sort of stuff as it related

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to the tying in of the transportation plan, mass transit

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and all of that into center city and one of

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the things like I'm going to move off of the

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transit stuff. But one thing to keep in mind that

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the City of Charlotte created Vision Plans Charlotte twenty ten

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Charlotte twenty twenty right where they put all these bright

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and shiny things all over the uptown area. And the

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whole point was to create, as Pat McCrory said in

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one famous and often used SoundBite on WBT years ago,

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synergy like you've never seen before. The idea was you

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pack all of these attractions around the convention center, and

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that's how you would lure things like the DNC. Like

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that was a huge thing. Like they really wanted to

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get the Democrat National Committee here or convention rather, and

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they did when Obama won in twenty twelve, right because

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in two thousand and eight Obama was in Colorado where

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he did like the whole Greek Parthenon re construction whatever.

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And then they did hold the DNC here in twenty twelve,

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and then of course we were supposed to have the

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RNC in twenty twenty, but then Governor Cooper can't that

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because he hates Trump. No, I'm kidding. It was over

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COVID technically over COVID, and there were a lot of

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people that were very mad about it because you know,

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Orange Man Hitler. So that was the idea. But part

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of that is also that you have what's called central

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Business district or whatever. Essentially it operates like a like

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a tax syncrome in finance district or a tiff. You

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have extra money that is collected via property taxes inside

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the central business district, and then that money is used

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to fund things inside the core center city area. And

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part of that was always for, you know, an increase

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presence of law enforcement. And then Democrats lost their minds

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and began this, you know, defund the police rhetoric and

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started placating the radical hearts of their base. And when

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you do that this I always say, I always say this,

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there is a fine line between chaos and order in

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a society, and when people have a perception of chaos,

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they will avoid those chaotic environments unless they want to

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participate in the chaos, in which case then you get

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more of it. So that line I think got crossed

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about five or six years ago. It probably started with

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the shooting of Keith Lamont Scott when everybody was like

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he was reading a book, like actually no, he was

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smoking weed with a gun at a bus stop and

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cobs told him to get out of the car. And

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then he gets out of the car with the gun,

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points to the cops and they shoot and kill him.

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They're like, hey, he's racist cops killing black men. It

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was actually a black officer that shot him, but that

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didn't matter. They protested, Yeah, they tore stuff up. That

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was before Saint George Floyd. So you know that perception matters,

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and when people now perceive Uptown to be chaotic and dangerous,

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they stay away. That was supposed to be part of

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your end of the bargain gov CO. The social compact

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is you maintain order, and if you're not going to

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maintain order, then the compact is scrapped. Okay, then there's

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no more mutual agreement you have. Your primary job is

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to provide security. That's the primary job. To try to

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prevent stuff from happening, yes, but also then to meet

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out the justice when people violate the social norms that

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are codified in law, and if they violate these norms,

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they're supposed to suffer punishment. And when people don't suffer punishment,

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they continue to violate the norms or the laws. And

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then people who do not wish to be victim stay

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away from those areas where they are more likely to

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be victimized, at least in their perception if not in reality.

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I mentioned the crime stats. I don't have the Charlotte

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crime stats. It's not important for the purpose of this

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story right now. But we have to rely on local

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law enforcement to provide us with accurate data on the

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actual state of crime and law enforcement we have to

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be able to measure this stuff to know whether our

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perceptions are true. I cannot fight against a perception of

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insecurity in uptown if you don't give me good data. Right,

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I'm not accusing this c MPDIA of not giving good data.

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It's just this is just in general, we have to

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have the data. We have to have the data for

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all the judges. Every judge, we need to know how

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many people come before them in their courtroom and what

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are the nature of the charges, how many people are

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they letting go? What is the average sentences for certain crimes? Like,

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all of this stuff can be collected and can be produced,

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and that would be the way to have an informed

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citizenry so we know, oh my gosh, we have a

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judge that keeps releasing people. For example, a twenty eight

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year old man who was caught on video attacking two

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pro life activists outside of a planned parenthood clinic in

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Baltimore was sentenced to a year of home detention and

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three years probation. He blinded an eighty four year old man,

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He knocked out a seventy three year old man because

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they were outside of a planned Parenthood clinic silently praying.

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He attacked them and Baltimore Circuit Judge Yvette Bryant rebuffed

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prosecutor's calls for a ten year sentence against Patrick Bryce,

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who is twenty eight years old. He was found guilty

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of two counts of second degree assault and reckless endangerment,

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and she gave him a slap on the wrist, not

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even a slap on the rest. One year of home detention,

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three years of probation. He also has to do some

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anger management classes. So there's that. Regarding the stats up

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in DC, a police commander there is under investigation for

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allegedly making changes to crime statistics in his district. This

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is what in the TV show The Wire they referred

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to as juice in the stats. They would puff up

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stats for arrests as an indication that they're getting tough

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on crime, even though they're making arrests for you know,

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ridiculous little things, or arresting people for no reason, but

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they just need the arrest numbers. The Metropolitan Police Department

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confirmed that Michael Pulliam was placed on paid administrative leave

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back in May. That happened just a week after Pulliam

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had filed an equal employment opportunity complaint against an assistant

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police chief is superior and the Police Union is accusing

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the department of deliberately falsifying crime data. Deliberately falsifying it.

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The union claims police supervisors in the department manipulate crime

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data to make it appear that violent crime has fallen

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considerably compared to last year. So how are we supposed

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to have confidence in whatever strategies you're employing, whatever effort

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you think are working. You want us to believe are working.

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But people look around and say this, that doesn't seem

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like it's working. Whatever they're doing, right, You can't defend.

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So this is a story from Nbcwashington dot com. So

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the local NBC affiliate up there talking about how the

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DC Police commander a commander has been suspended and accused

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of changing the crime stats, and the union says that

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supervisors in the department manipulate crime data to make it

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appear violent crime has fallen considerably compared to last year. Uh.

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Michael Pulliam, Commander Pullium, the former commander of the third District,

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was placed on leave with pay and told that he

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was under investigation for questionable changes to crime data. This

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according to five law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation.

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That came about a week though after he filed a

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complaint against his boss, Executive Assistant Chief of Police Andre Wright.

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So there's some other stuff going on here, okay, Because

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Pullium has a wife who also works for the police department,

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and she got transferred by the police chief, Pamela Smith.

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She got transferred from Youth Division over to the seventh District,

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working the midnight shift, and apparently Pullium, the husband, Commander Pulliam,

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was told by Executive Assistant Chief of Police Andre Wright,

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to go move his wife's stuff to her new location

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claar out her office and bring it over to the

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other place. Apparently that that is at the heart of

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the initial fight that he filed a complaint over and

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then he's announced to be under investigation. So is this retaliation, Like, oh,

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we know that you change those stats, but the union

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is saying, yeah, this is coming from the top. You're

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telling everybody to do this. Here's what the union said,

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the Fraternal Order of Police chairman Greg Pemberton. When our

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members respond to the scene of a felony offense where

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there is a victim reporting that a felony occurred, inevitably

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there will be a lieutenant or a captain that shows

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up on the scene and directs those members to take

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a report for a lesser offense. So instead of taking

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a report for a shooting or a stabbing or a carjacking,

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they will tell the officer to take a report for

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a theft or injured person to the hospital, or even

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a felony assault, which is not the same type of classification.

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So they're manipulating, they're falsifying the stats. The police department's

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command staff is focusing on two categories to drive the

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numbers down. Those two categories are armed with a dangerous

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weapon and injured person to the hospital. Felony assault is

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not a category of crime that's listed on the department's

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daily crime stats. What does that mean? Well, if I

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show up someplace and some guys shot, well, I can

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classify that as a felony assault and as and when

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I do that, it doesn't show up in their daily stats.

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It's also not something that's a requirement of the FBI's

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uniform Crime Reporting program. The it was a uniform they

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called the UCS I think is something like that or

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the UCR Uniform Crime Report. And this used to be

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sort of the the gold standard. Everybody you know would

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put their stats, report their stats to the FBI, and

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then you would do and they still do, but now

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you have some major cities that they don't report anymore.

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They've they quit sending data to the FBI, and which

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I don't think they should be allowed to do. I

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think every I think everybody should be reporting their crime

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stats and they should be that they should be classifying

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them the same way. But I remember doing these stories

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and Charlotte would come out as a, you know, a

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deadly city and in the amount of homicides and rapes

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and violent attacks and stuff per one hundred thousand people.

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And when we would show up on the list, because

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then there was like some I forget what who it was,

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it was like a it was it congressional quarterly or something.

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They would take the UCR stats and they would rank

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most dangerous and safest cities. And of course when Charlotte

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made the list of most dangerous cities, the Charlotte city

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leaders were very upset because we are building a synergistic

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uptown entertainment zone that is a world class city people, right,

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So they were very upset. I remember they brought out

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the former police chief, Darryl Stevens, he was chief at

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the time. They had city leaders and stuff, and they're like,

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you shouldn't be using this as a comparison, but why

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not shouldn't we though, well, every city is different with

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different challenges and blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah it doesn't.

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If I'm one of one hundred thousand people and I'm

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in Charlotte, am I more or less likely to be

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murdered in another city of one hundred thousand people that

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is a lower crime rate? Right, Like, that's yes, you

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can make those comparisons. They didn't like the comparison once

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it was made, landing them in the most dangerous city category,

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and that's why they were like, we have lots of

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different influences and things going on in our community that

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others aren't having to deal with whatever, And they never

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would tell you what that is. So By listing these

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things as felony assault, it avoids both the Metropolitan Police

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Department and the FBI from reporting it as a part

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one or a felony offense. The union has been gathering

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evidence for some time now by looking at reports and

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taking talking with officers all over the city. Pemberton said

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from the FOP, what we've heard through our members and

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through members of management that we're willing to talk with

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the union is that this is a directive from the

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command staff. They want to make sure that these classific

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the classifications of these reports are adjusted over time to

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make sure that the overall crime stats stay down, and

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that this is deliberately done. DC crime data shows violent

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crime was down twenty eight percent. Your falsification efforts are working.

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Pemberton called those numbers preposterous. Now, the police chief, Pamela Smith,

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put out a statement. Here's what she said. The Metropolitan

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Police Department is committed to upholding the trust and the

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confidence of the public. Any irregularity in crime data brought

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to my attention will be addressed immediately. Okay, well, are

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you aware of data that's been brought to you? Has

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any of this's been brought to your attention yet or

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are you saying that if in the future you get

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some attention or you get some data that that then

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you will then you will address it. She doesn't really say,

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any official reclassifying criminal offenses outside the guidelines set in

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our policy. Any allegation of this behavior will be dealt

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with through our internal processes, which will ensure those members

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are held accountable. Don't know if that'll be a personnel

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record so they won't have to release the information. That

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would be my bet though. And by the way, all

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of this comes on the heels of the attack on

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Big Balls. That was the doge guy, remember one of

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those coders, and he went by the online moniker of

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Big Balls. It's like, you know, the kinds you see

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at the beach. Those I'm I'm assuming Yeah. He apparently

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was severely beaten after his girlfriend was There was an

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attempted carjacking of her by a bunch of teenagers fourteen,

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fifteen and sixteen years old in DC, and Elon saw

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it because he was a doge guy. Elon saw it,

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tweeted it out, Trump saw it, commented on it, and

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then Trump started saying maybe we need to federalize DC

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take it over because if they are unable to control

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I'm not so sure that's actually going to do the job.

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Pete mail from Thomas Pete. Yes, the downtown problem in

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Charlotte has ebbed and flowed ever since we moved to

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town in nineteen seventy nine. It's always been the struggle

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for Charlotte not to become another Atlanta while trying to

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keep the uptown area viable. We solved our problem in

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twenty fourteen when we moved out of Charlotte and into

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South Carolina. Now if we want, we enjoy the best

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of the area without paying all of the higher extra

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taxes for it. Now looking back, yes, Charlotte has become

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another but smaller Atlanta. Yeah. I mean that's and that's

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always been the challenge for you know, these cities is

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that people come in from outside. They don't pay to

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build the stuff, to maintain the stuff, or anything like that.

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The locals are paying the freight for all of that.

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And that's why you get places like in Asheville, there

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was one Democrat on the city council that was always

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trying to it was always trying to get a commuter

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tax for people that commute into Ashville, so we could

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tax them when they come in here. It's like, but

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they're working here for a business. You're collecting taxes on

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the business every which way till Sunday. So like, But anyway,

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let me shift gears real quick. You know, Jasmine Crockett

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is jazzy, as I've heard her referred to. She is

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a congresswoman from Texas. She has positioned herself as an

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unfiltered critic of President Trump. She called Texas Governor Greg

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Abbott wheels, and she then said it's not because he's

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in a wheelchair, but she has used it to refer

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to him many times, so it's obviously because he's in

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a wheelchair. Anyway, it's earned her regular TV appearances and

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an enthusiastic online following. Among the worst people, I would say,

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but congressional aids to her tell The New York Post

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that the Dallas Democrat is just as rude and mean

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to her own staff. The liberal loudmouth has rocketed to

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fame since taking office in January twenty twenty three. Three

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sources who have worked with or four Crockets say she

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is rarely present when TV cameras are not rolling and

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that she terrorizes staff When she does come into work.

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She's not often found at her government provided suite in

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the Longworth House office building, with one insider saying she

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prefers to work from her nearby luxury apartment building. Sometimes

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for weeks on end. She's laying around in her apartment,

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won't come into the office, and is really just indifferent

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to staff and will scream at them. The former aide

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said she's never in the office and is very disengaged.

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She does her bs that goes viral and then freaks

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out over the most random things. She seems completely stable right.

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is widely known that she's not nice to staff and

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is just not a really dedicated member focused on constituents.

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member of Congress. A third source who has worked with

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Crockett described her as quote all diva know wow, which

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I acknowledge. I don't know what that means, but they've

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said the same about me. She prefers to have a

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staff member drive her the short distance to her office.

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When she does come into the office, she has them

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come pick her up, but they can't pick her up

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in their own car, which is the norm. And it's

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a way, you say money, because every congressional office gets

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a bunch of money to operate, you know, Rand Paul

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every year makes a point of returning the money back

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to the US taxpayers, right back to the government, saying

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I didn't use all the money. I think they get

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like two million a year to run their offices. So no, no,

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She takes full advantage of this. She has the staff

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rent a car, usually an escalade because of course has

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to be an escalade or an upscale similar make and

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then they go and pick her up, and then she

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waits for them to open the door for her. She

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made one of her aides cry at one point. And

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when they put out an ad, they posted a job

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listing for her team. It was shared among a large

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group of black Democratic women, and not a single one

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wanted the gig because they knew, they knew what it's

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like to work for her, and they were like, no,

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thank you. One said quote. Truly, the only person that

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she thinks about and cares about is herself. She is

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more focused on get me on the view, get me

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on this late night talk show, which well, then at

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least she's consistent, you know, wanting to get on sinking ships.

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That's at least there is that. All right. If you're

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listening to this show, you know I try to keep

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make the media landscape more transparent. So, Brett, you're doing well.

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Speaker 2: I'm really I'm very well.

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Speaker 1: You're never not well.

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Speaker 2: That's really true, it is I'm an optimist.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I can't see in your brain at

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all times. I'll take your word for that. I will

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just say Brett is like ninety nine percent of the

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time always telling people things are fantastic.

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Speaker 2: It is everything is fantasic. Look, we are so lucky.

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Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: I'm not kidding it.

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Speaker 2: We're super lucky.

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Speaker 1: I do agree with that.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things also, I feel like if

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if you have gratitude, like if you're grateful, yes, like

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you reckon yes, when you are blessed, when you've got

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something good and you just take a moment to say,

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this is a good thing. I'm I'm grateful for this

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thing or these people or this experience. I feel like

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people are happier when they recognize things to be grateful for.

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Oh yeah, I think that that may be the secret

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to life.

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Speaker 2: Are you a dweller, Like do you dwell?

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Speaker 1: I have a dwelling, But do you dwell.

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Speaker 2: When like, something doesn't go right, I mean, you do

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dwell on it.

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Speaker 1: For I'm not a ruminator.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't ruminate. That's very bad in psychological terms. People

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who ruminate, they dwell, like you're saying, they dwell on stuff.

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I don't do that unless it's something that's unresolved. If

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I've done something and I've hurt somebody, I did something bad, yeah, right,

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then it's like I will. But then it's like, but

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that forces me to try to fix it.

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Speaker 2: You're a people pleaser, not really, you don't like people more.

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Speaker 1: That's that's more real.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I yeah, And I'm grateful for the

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way I am. So let me. Have you heard this

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story out of Carrie, North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Carrie North Carolina, but I

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don't I don't know the city.

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Speaker 1: You know, So you know Carrie North Carolina, you knows what.

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Speaker 2: She's very nice?

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know what? Carrie stands for.

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Speaker 2: Justice in the American one, No Carrie.

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Speaker 1: According to the locals, Carrie suburb of Raleigh's up in

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Wake County, Oh Boy, and it's called a it's called

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Carrie stands for it's an acronym, and it stands for

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Containment Area for relocated Yankees.

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Speaker 2: So now I totally believe that, right. I try to

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stay out of Raleigh at every possible same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, same, I just don't like going up there. Yeah. Same.

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So there's a Wendy's in Carrie. Yeah, and have you

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heard of this show on Netflix called Wednesday from the

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Adams Family. You know one of the characters. I know

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that character, the character, right, Well, apparently there's Netflix spin

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off or something that they're doing. They're promoting the show Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: That sounds over.

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Speaker 1: That sounds all right, And so the Adams Family spooky,

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kind of kooky, right, all of that. So they've got

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displays that are going up in the Wendy's and very

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much like Halloween.

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Speaker 2: Halloween. Oh okay, right right?

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Speaker 1: What makes it? Kind of makes sense? Right?

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Speaker 2: Witch rushing the season? But yes, I'm great.

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Speaker 1: I have cobwebs and that's right, and a noose? Whoa

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you see where this is going?

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Speaker 2: No? I don't really. I just went you when you

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drop noos, I go whoa hold on?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no good?

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Speaker 1: It is raising concerns. Yes, the choice to display a

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noose did not sit well for some customers and civil

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rights organizations who say it's a form of disturbing symbolism

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rooted in a racist past.

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Speaker 2: Well, wow, I listen, people are going to you know,

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take it as they take it. You know. That's that's

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the that's why I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Watch that show, The Wednesday Show.

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Speaker 2: It's like a sci fi thing, right, It's like a

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it's like.

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Speaker 1: The Monster yea, the Adams Family.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, I got, I got, I got. I'm

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not gonna I'm not gonna wreck your I'm not gonna

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harsher buzs. But go ahead, no do it. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even this is pregaming. We're working on getting

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the butts.

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Speaker 2: I watched accidentally show last night that was really magnificent,

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which was it's called The Penguin Lessons on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: Okay, is it about penguins.

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Speaker 2: There's a penguin involved, and it's about like Buenos Airis

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in the seventies and the disappearances and the penguins. No

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that the penguin is just a it's a metaphor. Yeah,

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it's a metaphor.

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Speaker 1: It's like a mascot. Yes, is that the official mascot.

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Speaker 2: It's the Penguin Lessons. It's really good.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, it's it's really a show, like it's a show,

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not a documentary or something.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's a it's a drama. It's a drama.

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It's a drama with some laughter with it a little bit.

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But it's really cool.

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Speaker 1: What's it on Netflix?

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Speaker 2: And it's called The Penguin Lessons? And Sherry was watching

509
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it and then I, you know, when you're like, then

510
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you sort of look out and you go, well, this

511
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is kind of interesting, right, I wouldn't watch that normally?

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Speaker 1: Right? Do you sit down to watch a show like

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or so let me say, do you sit down not

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to watch a show? Like, if you have a show

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that you're watching, you'll sit down and watch it, but like,

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do you sit down and actively look for programs like

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scroll through to find a program?

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Speaker 2: I don't. I rely I rely on, say my beautiful wife,

519
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because I don't have the temperature or tenor to sit

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there and look at a show.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I will watch, like I might watch like nine episodes

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of a show and there's like thirteen of them, right,

524
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and I at some point I just fall off. Yeah, yeah,

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and I never even know how it ends.

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Speaker 1: That was Yellowstone I was a big fan of Yellowstone,

527
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so are we? And then it got weirder and weirder

528
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and more and more unbelievable. And then the last season

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they split into like two seasons.

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Speaker 2: I never saw it. Yeah, so I never saw the

531
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,640
end of them.

532
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Speaker 1: Me neither, because they did the it's like, here's our

533
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final season or whatever, and they gave us like six

534
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,519
episodes and then they're like mid season finale, Like when

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did they start doing a mid season finale? And then

536
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they don't like that, right, and then you make us

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wait for like two years.

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Speaker 2: That was two years, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm like, well, I'm out. I don't remember all

540
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,400
of this stuff, right, I'm not going back and rewatching it, right,

541
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not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. And I feel comfortable just

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bailing on a show.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Once. I'm like, I'm like, okay, whatever, this has been

546
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:44,880
kind of good.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's another one for me. You ever watched

548
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:49,240
The Blacklist? James Spader?

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Speaker 2: I think I saw like two episodes of that.

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Speaker 1: Premise fantastic, yeah, right. Premise was guy who's like this

551
00:32:56,759 --> 00:33:00,279
international arms dealer, kind of criminal guy, and he goes

552
00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:02,279
and he's like I'm gonna turn myself in to work

553
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:06,279
with the this FBI profiler whatever, and he has he

554
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:10,240
knows all the bad guys all around the world. But

555
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:12,480
here's the deal, Like, you know, you don't come after

556
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:14,400
me on this stuff, and I'll work with you and

557
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,400
get you these these big guys. And of course he's

558
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got his own motivation is to eliminate competition, take out

559
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people that want to take him out whatever. Spoiler alert,

560
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it ends up the profiler that he demanded to work

561
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with turns out to be his daughter.

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Speaker 2: Whoa.

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Speaker 1: And when it's just like and you can see it

564
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,039
coming a mile away for like three or four seasons,

565
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,359
and then he finally puts it together and I'm like,

566
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,119
this is a criminal mastermind. He can't even figure this out. Yeah,

567
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,079
she's a profiler and she couldn't figure it out. I

568
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,839
figured it out three years ago.

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Speaker 2: There's only really been one show that I watched like

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the whole thing through. I was Longmyer. I liked Long Mind.

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Speaker 1: Christie likes that that was a great show. All right,

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that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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for listening. I could not do the show without yours

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00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,759
support and the support of the businesses that advertise on

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become a patron at my Patreon page or go to

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thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening,

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and don't break anything while I'm gone.

