Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
Speaker 1: six forty And this is KFI.
Speaker 2: Bill Handle here on Monday morning, September twenty three.
Speaker 3: And some of the stories we are.
Speaker 2: Looking at, well paper or plastic right and here in
Speaker 2: California and new law kicks in saying those double strength
Speaker 2: plastic bags they quote recyclable bags at the supermarket gone
Speaker 2: because they're not recyclable and people don't use them recyclable,
Speaker 2: believe they throw.
Speaker 3: Them away, they go into landfills. So done.
Speaker 2: Okay, a story about the wildfires. And I know you've
Speaker 2: heard about wildfires. We've talked about how dangerous they are,
Speaker 2: but I want to dive into it a little bit
Speaker 2: and give you a little bit of science. Here the
Speaker 2: full the first weekend of September, the Line fire, twenty
Speaker 2: thousand acres in size three percent contained a resid in
Speaker 2: San Bernardino County. On the news describe the sky looking
Speaker 2: exactly like a nuclear warhead had been set off. And
Speaker 2: at that point, okay, twenty eight thousand acres in the
Speaker 2: line fire already released more energy than a dozen atomic bombs.
Speaker 2: And just like nuclear blasts can create their own weather,
Speaker 2: so can wildfires.
Speaker 3: When they're big enough. There are four main.
Speaker 2: Compounds that come out of one of these wildfires. First
Speaker 2: of all, carbon dioxide, right that long term carbon dioxide,
Speaker 2: global climate change, that really doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Short term, that doesn't really affect us.
Speaker 2: Short term smoke, Oh yeah, that's toxic ingredients, carbon monoxide, methane, benzene,
Speaker 2: a bunch of others. Then there is heat, which is
Speaker 2: kind of obvious, but it's important. And then there is
Speaker 2: water vapor, which usually you don't think of being connected.
Speaker 2: And putting all that together, man, you've got a mess
Speaker 2: on your hands. A plume of smoke, which is the
Speaker 2: most dangerous to your health, can extend hundreds even thousands
Speaker 2: of miles.
Speaker 3: The smoke block scatter sunlight.
Speaker 2: That's how you get the run the red sun effect,
Speaker 2: and that actually is dangerous to us because that means
Speaker 2: we have a lot of smoke.
Speaker 3: We're breathing a lot of smoke.
Speaker 2: The next byproduct is heat, again obvious, but look what
Speaker 2: happens with heat. Okay, the air rises, right, Hot air
Speaker 2: goes up and cold air comes in to fill the vacuum.
Speaker 2: So what happens when you blow on a fire. It
Speaker 2: heats up. It's like bellows when you start a fire
Speaker 2: in the fireplace and you start with a little kindling
Speaker 2: and you blow on it to bring oxygen, so it
Speaker 2: really heats up.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what happens in a big, big way, right.
Speaker 2: The heat rises, the cold air comes in, or colder
Speaker 2: air comes in at the bottom, more oxygen. It gets hotter,
Speaker 2: and then that heat rises and more oxygen comes in,
Speaker 2: and it.
Speaker 3: Is a circle.
Speaker 2: And it is horrible, and that can produce what's called
Speaker 2: the firestorm. And that's when the winds surrounding the fire
Speaker 2: directed inwards and it has a feedback effect and there
Speaker 2: it's oxygen coming in stoking the fire. More oxygen coming in,
Speaker 2: stoking the fire, and it keeps on going until it's its.
Speaker 3: Own weather system. Oh man, when it goes the other way.
Speaker 2: By the way, when the fire comes in and it's
Speaker 2: spinning out, that means embers are flying out, and for
Speaker 2: miles away, the hot embers cause more fires, and firestorms
Speaker 2: can create so much heat the firefighters can't get near it.
Speaker 3: So during World War Two we saw what that did.
Speaker 2: When you had carpet bombing Dresden, Germany, Japan. The damage
Speaker 2: much more from the fires than the initial bombing. It
Speaker 2: was those fires that cause most of the damage.
Speaker 3: Then you have water vapor.
Speaker 2: And here's what happens with water vapor, and this I
Speaker 2: didn't know until I read this. You have the water
Speaker 2: vapor released by combustion, because any vapor is cooked away.
Speaker 3: And it goes into the atmosphere.
Speaker 2: So now you have smoke particles in the air produced
Speaker 2: by the fire, and then something called condensation nuclei form,
Speaker 2: vapor forms around these, and now there are droplets, and
Speaker 2: what you have are hot storms, and those storms can
Speaker 2: create lightning. That's why you see lightning at some of
Speaker 2: these fires. You go, how is that possible? We had
Speaker 2: fires that were happening with lightning. It was one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifteen degrees outside. That doesn't make any sense. Well, again,
Speaker 2: it's its own weather. Now, the good news is these
Speaker 2: water droplets actually end up falling and they help with
Speaker 2: the fire, but not enough to overcome the heat the smoke,
Speaker 2: especially when a fire is going crazy and spreading like well,
Speaker 2: wildfire and fires, as we know, when they're going up
Speaker 2: a hill are about five times more dangerous in that
Speaker 2: they are quicker, they are more intense, and.
Speaker 3: It is just the god awful mess.
Speaker 2: Now we don't have too many firestorms here in southern California.
Speaker 2: Because I guess there is a silver lining on that
Speaker 2: cloud is because we have a lot of narrow cares,
Speaker 2: we have strong prevailing winds and those actually help with
Speaker 2: these firestorms.
Speaker 3: But it is not fun. And by the way, since we.
Speaker 2: Have climate change, it's going to get worse, and that's
Speaker 2: really problematic. More smoke, more firestorms, more weather events.
Speaker 3: None of that is good news. And can you stop it? No,
Speaker 3: you can't stop.
Speaker 2: Fires from being ignited. That just is impossible. There are
Speaker 2: too many arsonists out there. There are too many accidental
Speaker 2: fires started when you have catalytic converters and mufflers that
Speaker 2: go crazy on the side of the road and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden brush starts burning up. You have too
Speaker 2: many accidental fires. And the fires now are far more dangerous.
Speaker 2: So is there an answer, Yes, long term climate change,
Speaker 2: but it's not going to happen in our lifetimes.
Speaker 3: So here is the bottom line.
Speaker 2: What I suggest you do to save your home is
Speaker 2: get tons and tons.
Speaker 3: Of fire insurance.
Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, you can't get fire insurance. I forgot,
Speaker 2: So let me give you a takeaway. Your house is
Speaker 2: going to burn you are going to die.
Speaker 3: Okay. Now, deep fakes.
Speaker 2: Deep fakes are all about deep faking on the Internet
Speaker 2: and creating these scenarios that, frankly depending on how good
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 3: Making stuff up on the Internet.
Speaker 2: There's some new laws that have just been passed dealing
Speaker 2: with the election cycle coming up and holding these major
Speaker 2: platforms accountable.
Speaker 3: So let me give you some examples.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump shared deep fakes of Taylor Swift and the Swifties,
Speaker 2: implying that they supported him. There was one image that
Speaker 2: basically Rift and follow the old military recruitment posters Swift
Speaker 2: pointing to you and a caption saying, Taylor Swift wants
Speaker 2: you to vote for Donald Trump. Remember those wants you
Speaker 2: to sign up Uncle Sam pointing at you during World
Speaker 2: War Two. That was sort of a takeoff on that.
Speaker 2: Now that to me is almost parody. I don't think
Speaker 2: that something like that is a problem. I really don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, does anybody think Taylor Swift actually did that?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. There are some subtle ones that.
Speaker 2: I think can do some real damage, but I think
Speaker 2: people are overreacting as to what is going on with
Speaker 2: these deep fakes.
Speaker 3: Then you had another one, but by the way.
Speaker 2: That one almost immediately led to Swift publicly endorsing Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: although she was going to any way just a question
Speaker 2: of time. There was an AI generated image from the
Speaker 2: Trump campaign where Trump is surrounded by black people to
Speaker 2: demonstrate his support among black voters. So, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't even know why anybody complains about them, because you
Speaker 2: can legitimately get any group, under any circumstance, on any
Speaker 2: venue supporting you. Right, you can't get what Trump can't
Speaker 2: get fifteen twenty black supporters. Kamala Harris can't get a
Speaker 2: bunch of white supremacs saying that you know, she supports
Speaker 2: them or they support her. Although I don't know what
Speaker 2: she would do that, but that's easy to do to
Speaker 2: do that. And then another image that Trump shared on X.
Speaker 2: He reposted that, and that is Harris speaking at the
Speaker 2: DNC surrounded by communist flags. Now, come on, do you
Speaker 2: really think that's going to affect people?
Speaker 3: Are people that stupid?
Speaker 2: Must targeted Newsome by the way, in a post on
Speaker 2: x implying that based on the signing of this bill,
Speaker 2: Newsom signed a law to.
Speaker 3: Make parity illegal.
Speaker 2: And parity is always legal because paroity no one really believes.
Speaker 2: And most of these deep fakes are so patently ridiculous
Speaker 2: and non believable. My favorite one, and this was not
Speaker 2: AI generated deep fakes.
Speaker 3: This happened to be in.
Speaker 2: A cartoon in Penthouse and I think it was Jerry Folwell,
Speaker 2: there was a cartoon of him leaving an outhouse us
Speaker 2: having sex with his mother.
Speaker 3: A little offensive, don't you think? And he sued. He
Speaker 3: sued for defamation.
Speaker 2: And what the court held was and he was asked this,
Speaker 2: by the way, by the defense Penthouse defense, do you
Speaker 2: think anybody actually believes that you've had sex with your
Speaker 2: mother in an outhouse? Well, no, that's ridiculous. Therefore, where's
Speaker 2: the defamation? Do you really believe that? At the DNC
Speaker 2: when Kamalis spoke that there were Commonist flags that were
Speaker 2: flying around the stage, do you really believe that? Well no,
Speaker 2: not really so the big the examples are pretty blatant parody.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you could stop that. Well, what
Speaker 3: about Bill? If this is just covering AI.
Speaker 4: You know, I've been doing photo retouching and modification and
Speaker 4: things like that since I used to do it by
Speaker 4: hand without computers. If I generated something in Photoshop, that's
Speaker 4: a parody.
Speaker 3: How is that any different.
Speaker 2: Because I think it's a question of publication. I think
Speaker 2: the Internet and what you can do with AI is
Speaker 2: so much more extensive and immediate and much more massive
Speaker 2: that there's a genuine fear. We are frightened while AI
Speaker 2: is going to be the future. I think people are
Speaker 2: legitimately frightened of what AI can do.
Speaker 3: And this is here's an example.
Speaker 2: And by the way, this bill is only having to
Speaker 2: do with the election cycle. It's not across the board.
Speaker 2: It's that AI AI generated deep fakes. And by the way,
Speaker 2: some are so subtle that you really don't know that
Speaker 2: they're AI, and they just are meant to.
Speaker 3: Mo the needle a little bit. I have four fingers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well those yeah, but people but here's people don't
Speaker 2: notice for fingers, they don't notice it and they do
Speaker 2: their job. So it's so it's not done well, all right,
Speaker 2: So AI has to be tweaked a little bit, so
Speaker 2: people have five fingers. But there is very sophisticated propaganda
Speaker 2: and it really is coming in from Iran, from Russia,
Speaker 2: meant to simply influence. I think that's the real fear,
Speaker 2: not communist flags flying at the DNC.
Speaker 3: I don't think that is a big issue.
Speaker 2: And now it is time for do they have a
Speaker 2: case with Wayne and me? And i'n't talked about the
Speaker 2: rules in a while, so let me set this up.
Speaker 2: Wayne does research on cases that are either pinning or
Speaker 2: have been decided, usually by the appeals court, and it
Speaker 2: is the case of first impression. I have no idea
Speaker 2: what the case is about, having generally not heard about
Speaker 2: it as you are hearing it for the first time.
Speaker 3: So Wayne Resnik, let's start.
Speaker 5: Okay, Now, in the unlikely event that your daughter Barbara
Speaker 5: is listening, Barbara go away. You don't want to hear
Speaker 5: this case because it involves one of your heroes, Brett
Speaker 5: Farv and Bill. You remember the controversy over Brett Farvin
Speaker 5: the use of some charitable monies and government assistance monies
Speaker 5: for untoward purpose, not untoward purposes, but unauthorized purposes, such
Speaker 5: as building a volleyball stadium at the University of Southern Mississippi.
Speaker 2: Remember that was in there where his daughter went and
Speaker 2: she was on the volleyball team, and he built that
Speaker 2: stadium with.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say allegedly only because he has been very
Speaker 5: litigious and I don't want to get sued with some
Speaker 5: COVID era assistance funds temporary assist for needy family funds
Speaker 5: that came into Mississippi and ended up some of it
Speaker 5: to being used on this stadium.
Speaker 1: So anyway, and.
Speaker 5: There was another incident where he was involved in a
Speaker 5: charity and the apparently there was money for speaking that
Speaker 5: he didn't do, which he paid all of that back
Speaker 5: before Mississippi sued him for any of the financial stuff.
Speaker 5: In any event, he is a football great, would we agree, absolutely?
Speaker 1: And also a football great. Uh Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 5: Who is also a Super Bowl winner and all of that,
Speaker 5: who of course is on a show with Skip Bayliss
Speaker 5: called Undisputed, where he said talking about this situation after
Speaker 5: an article was published in Mississippi Today summarizing the situation,
Speaker 5: said one the problem I have with this situation, You've
Speaker 5: got to be a sorry mofo to steal from the
Speaker 5: lowest of the low because that assistance money was meant
Speaker 5: to go for poor people. Also, Brett Farv is taking
Speaker 5: from the underserved, and Brett Favre stole money from people
Speaker 5: that really needed that money. Brett Farv sued Shannon Sharp
Speaker 5: for defamation saying, you are damaging my reputation, you are
Speaker 5: accusing me of crimes, and I want a lot of
Speaker 5: money from you, and I want you to shut up.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: The lower court said, you know what, those statements are
Speaker 5: just hyperbole. They're rhetorical hyperbole, and they're protected by the
Speaker 5: First Amendment. And mister Brett farv. You have no case.
Speaker 5: And mister Brett Farb wasn't happy with that decision, so
Speaker 5: he took it up to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Speaker 5: What say you, does he have a case against Shannon Sharp?
Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask.
Speaker 2: Just for a moment, I think you said it, but
Speaker 2: I want you to RepA and that is he paid
Speaker 2: all the money back and it ended.
Speaker 3: The case disappear. As far as the authorities were concerned.
Speaker 1: Well, there were never any criminal charges.
Speaker 5: There were never any criminal It was a civil lawsuit
Speaker 5: by the Mississippi Department of Human Services.
Speaker 1: Okay, the use of this assistance.
Speaker 3: Money, Okay, what happened to that case that got resolved?
Speaker 1: He paid a bunch of money.
Speaker 3: Back, Okay, So that's fine, all right.
Speaker 1: At the time, Just so you understand, at the time,
Speaker 1: this was.
Speaker 3: A live case, Okay, that was going on from the state.
Speaker 2: Okay, So with that, if he mentioned, if the commentators
Speaker 2: the football player, as a matter of facts, that he
Speaker 2: stole money, he took money.
Speaker 3: That is used for underdeserved people.
Speaker 2: Although there's a defense that you can always use a
Speaker 2: volleyball net for fishing, and you can. There's there's a
Speaker 2: whole world of that, but that's in a different direction.
Speaker 2: And the accusation of criminal activity and the accusation of
Speaker 2: beyond that underserved people. Even though bet Brett Favre is
Speaker 2: a public figure, of which the rules are, it's much
Speaker 2: harder for public figures to argue defamation. I think enough
Speaker 2: was there where defamation does fly, especially the fact that
Speaker 2: he's a thief, the fact that he's a criminal. I mean,
Speaker 2: there was a I don't think you can say that
Speaker 2: and get away and argue First Amendment. Well, the court
Speaker 2: went the other way, is what you're saying. The court
Speaker 2: went the other way and doubled down.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: First of all, First of all, they specifically said that
Speaker 5: when Shannon Sharp said Brett Favre stole money from people
Speaker 5: that really needed that money, the court said that was
Speaker 5: rhetorical hyperbole because no reasonable person would believe that Shannon
Speaker 5: Sharp was saying that Brett Farv went into the houses
Speaker 5: of poor people and took things from them.
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, well you can't. So the only way
Speaker 2: you can steal is to go into houses. You cannot
Speaker 2: steal institutionally. You can't steal money from programs that are
Speaker 2: used to help the poor.
Speaker 3: That is insane for the court to say that.
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing.
Speaker 5: They also said, whether or not it's hyperbole, is not
Speaker 5: really where we're gonna come down anyway, because we're gonna
Speaker 5: say everything he said was based on what was in
Speaker 5: the Mississippi Today article.
Speaker 1: He was relying on publicly reported.
Speaker 5: Information informing his statements and opinions. He did not bring
Speaker 5: his own alleged information about Brett Farv into the situation.
Speaker 5: He did not say or intimate that he had special
Speaker 5: secret information that was causing him to say what he said.
Speaker 5: He was relying on the article, and apparently if you
Speaker 5: rely on an article and say a lot of stuff,
Speaker 5: you have more protection than if you're just talking based
Speaker 5: on nothing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I just don't I don't get it.
Speaker 2: I really don't get it, truly, because I'm sorry, my
Speaker 2: phone is going off.
Speaker 3: I didn't turn on silent okay.
Speaker 2: So therefore, if an article comes out in whatever publication
Speaker 2: arguing that you Wayne have engaged in inappropriate sexual conduct,
Speaker 2: I can say as a fact, Wayne has sex with goats.
Speaker 3: Factually, that's what.
Speaker 1: The article said.
Speaker 2: If the article did say that, Let's say the article
Speaker 2: accuses you, say, there's an investigation. There is a someone
Speaker 2: assuing you for having sex with their goat, okay, and
Speaker 2: you have ruined the value of their champion goat because
Speaker 2: you have stook the goat?
Speaker 3: All right? Can I then? Am I not allowed to sue?
Speaker 5: Come on, I'll give me if you read that article
Speaker 5: and then you came on the air and said, oh,
Speaker 5: that pervert.
Speaker 3: Well I understand. Had he said said had you.
Speaker 5: Would be protected probably that's a great writer of the article.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't necessary?
Speaker 2: That is that's insanity because of you take an allegation
Speaker 2: and you make it fact just because.
Speaker 3: You read it. Now, if he had.
Speaker 2: Said, uh, Brett Favara was accused of this, that's very
Speaker 2: different than he is a pervert or he is a thief.
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna that side. Don't know where the
Speaker 2: court went. Let's take a break. Sex with goats, okay?
Speaker 2: Wayne should be ashamed of yourself.
Speaker 1: Sorry, all right.
Speaker 3: We finish up.
Speaker 2: With Wayne Resnik on a Monday, as we always do do.
Speaker 3: They have a case.
Speaker 5: Guy goes to a fair at the high school. He
Speaker 5: is part of the camera club in the town and
Speaker 5: he's got a new lens and he wants to try
Speaker 5: it out. So he climbs up on one of the
Speaker 5: slides and he takes a few pictures of this ride
Speaker 5: they have that has a big mural on it. Two
Speaker 5: minutes total of the amount of time that he was
Speaker 5: taking pictures.
Speaker 1: And then he's just walking around the.
Speaker 5: Fair when a cop comes up to him and says,
Speaker 5: what's your name? And he says why, And the next
Speaker 5: thing you know, he's on the ground being handcuffed, other
Speaker 5: cops coming over to help subdue him, although he didn't
Speaker 5: he wasn't really subdued because he wasn't.
Speaker 1: Fighting, and was ultimately.
Speaker 5: Arrested for resisting arrest. So he assumes the cop and says,
Speaker 5: excuse me, you have prist of all, you had no
Speaker 5: reason to even come up to me, and number two,
Speaker 5: you can't arrest me for asking why.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: The cop says, hey, here in this is in Louisiana.
Speaker 5: Here in Louisiana, you have to identify yourself to a
Speaker 5: police officer. You don't have to give them a piece
Speaker 5: of identification, but you have to identify yourself.
Speaker 1: So when you.
Speaker 5: Said why, that's like refusing to identify yourself.
Speaker 1: And then his lawyers say, oh, you only have.
Speaker 5: To identify yourself after you've been arrested. And I said
Speaker 5: why before you arrested me? So number one, that doesn't work.
Speaker 5: Number two saying why is not refusing to identify myself.
Speaker 5: I would like to sue the But Jesus out of you,
Speaker 5: does this guy have a case against this cop?
Speaker 2: Oh? I have a couple of questions. Number one or
Speaker 2: a statement. Number one, this is Louise and I immediately
Speaker 2: start saying, this is Louisiana. Number two and I just
Speaker 2: this is just a sidebar. But maybe you know that
Speaker 2: is his name?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 5: No, it's Michael Holmes. Both it's an abbit in Costello routine.
Speaker 3: Yes, so the.
Speaker 1: Judge, yes, he's very good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to argue, and this again, I questioned Louisiana.
Speaker 3: I am going to argue.
Speaker 2: That a cop can't just arbitrarily come up to someone
Speaker 2: and just say, what's your name? Was there a complaint.
Speaker 2: Did the cops say that he thought he was photographing
Speaker 2: inappropriately even if he wasn't, But just going up to
Speaker 2: someone and saying, what's your name? I don't think cuts it.
Speaker 2: Number two asking why that, I don't think that's that's
Speaker 2: a refusal. I think the word why. All the cop
Speaker 2: has to say it to him is because and give
Speaker 2: him almost any reason or say uh no, that would
Speaker 2: be it. I think he I think the cop has
Speaker 2: to say, here is the reason why, and by the way,
Speaker 2: why you're you know, I like the way you're dressed today,
Speaker 2: and so I don't I gotta tell you, I don't
Speaker 2: see it other than it's Louisiana.
Speaker 3: That That is what I'm.
Speaker 2: Thinking, is that it's the fifth district you know of
Speaker 2: of appeal.
Speaker 3: So you know, there's my answer. I don't think I
Speaker 3: think he has a case.
Speaker 5: Yes, as crazy as you thought the court was in
Speaker 5: the first case, you will love you will find the
Speaker 5: court to be imminently sensible.
Speaker 1: In this case. He's got a big, fat, juicy case.
Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, We'll do this again next next week,
Speaker 2: as we always do, Yes, sir, in case say thirty
Speaker 2: that's it, guys, we are done again. We start tomorrow
Speaker 2: morning five am with wake up call Neil, Neil and
Speaker 2: I jump aboard until nine and Cono and and are
Speaker 2: Cono and an. This is kf I Am six forty
Speaker 2: Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3: You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.
Speaker 2: Catch my Show Monday through Friday, six am to nine am,
Speaker 2: and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app