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Speaker 1: Let's all start to it. You want to present some

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Speaker 2: This is what we have been waiting for.

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Speaker 1: The hype is off the bench the bitch. Now here's

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Jacob Hester.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in our number two, a Wednesday edition of Off

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the Bench. Taylor Sharp here with you, sitting in for

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Jacob Hester here today tomorrow. Jake will be back on Friday.

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Jake actually gonna send us back some interviews from the

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SEC spring meetings, probably this afternoon. We will play them

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during tomorrow's show. LSU Coaches, you know that that sort

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of thing. Well, we'll have that for you all tomorrow

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and then Jake ultimately we'll be back on Friday. Right now,

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we want to look at a little bit of New

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Orleans Saints because we're having Raster Jackson on at nine

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am to talk some OTAs. But Ross, obviously he does

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Locked on Saints now writes for us here at luisianasports

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dot Net. He put out a thing yesterday, this article

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talking about OTAs and some veterans returning for the Saints

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that are actually battling for roster spots, and the one

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he mentioned yesterday was none other than former LSU running

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back Clyde Edwardsilaire. He says, look, there weren't a ton

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of bright spots late in the twenty twenty four season

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for the Saints, but one of those players that was

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a pretty good bright spot was Ben Ruge Naive. Clyde

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Edwards Hilaire, he said, the oellowsh Tiger was given a

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chance to play for his home state Saints. Now he

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was re signed this offseason after having you know, a

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decent finish, about as good as you could behind that

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offensive line on that offense a year ago. And he'll

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battle for a spot in this running back room. And

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when ross breaks down, why Clyde Edwards Hilaire has a

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solid chance, He talks. Look, aside from Alvin Kamara, Clyde

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Dwardshilaire is the most experienced player in this position room.

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He's going into a sixth NFL season. If you remember,

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Clyde was a twenty twenty first round pick for the

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Kansas City Chiefs, the very last pick in the first round.

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Chiefs Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes. They know a little bit

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about offense, and you know, however you feel about Clyde

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Oderson Hilaire's career at this point, they selected Clyde at

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running back over guys like Jonathan Taylor, JK.

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Speaker 3: I mean there were that was a really solid running

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back class. Clyde Edwards Hilior was his first running back

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to go. That's what the Kansas City Chiefs thought of him.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to offense, he was a solid pass

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blocker so far in his NFL career. He's been able

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to catch the ball out of the backfield. He could

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be a three down contributor in the right scheme. He's

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got flexibility to his game, He's got the maturity just mentioned.

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He's the second most experienced guy in this backfield now

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going into his sixth NFL season. And look, you know,

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Clyde Sadden up and down NFL career, had a pretty

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good rookie year, had a lot of injuries to deal with.

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year late in the season.

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Speaker 4: With the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 3: But look, when you look at the depth of this

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running back room, you can obviously pencil in Alvin Kamara

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is RB one. You no longer have Jordan Mint, So

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really your returners from a year ago, Alvin Kamara, Clyd Edwards,

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Dlaire and Kendre Miller, who has shown no ability to

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stay healthy. And look, even when Kindre has been healthy,

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I mean, he's been a solid player, but just look

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at look at what he's done in two years. He

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has eighty carries, three hundred and four yards, two touchdowns.

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That's that's it. All that came in fourteen games over

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Speaker 4: Two starts.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's not getting it done. It's you

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he hasn't exactly lit up the statue.

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Speaker 4: The young guys are exciting. Though.

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Speaker 3: You were able to get Devin Neil in the sixth

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round of this NFL Draft. We had talked about it

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a lot on this show about you know, the deepest

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positions going into this twenty twenty five NFL Draft. My

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answer was always pretty steady the running back position. I mean,

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look at what Cam Skataboo did in the college football

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plaoff like any other year, that guy's a top two

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round pick. What's got to be good round four. You

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time leading rusher for the Kansas Jayhawks. You'll look at

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what Devin Neil did in college in his four year career,

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seven hundred and sixty carries, four three hundred and forty

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three yards, forty nine rushing touchdowns. Oh and that's on

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a five point seven yards per carry average.

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Speaker 5: That's real production right there.

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Speaker 4: That's real production right there.

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Speaker 3: Also seven hundred yards receiving in four years, so we

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can catch the ball out of the backfield eighty eight

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point six yards per game. And that's one of Kansas

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offense that wasn't exactly great. I mean at times teams

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for two seasons. Devin Neil was that offense and he

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was incredible three years in a row twenty twenty two,

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one thousand ninety yards, nine touchdowns, twenty twenty three, twelve

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eighty sixteen touchdowns. What does he do with that, he

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follows it up the exact same sixteen touchdowns again in

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twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: I think Devin Neil is the real deal.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a guy that's five to eleven, he's

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Speaker 4: He has the size to play right away. I like

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Speaker 3: I mean I think the longer OTAs goes on offseason workout,

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you know, when you get into preseason camp, Devin Neil

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is going to continue to rise up that board. I

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don't think there's any question that he is going to

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pass up Kendre Miller. I'm not even sure Kendre Miller

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makes this team because don't sleep on Marcus Yarns, the

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undrafted free agent, the rookie out of Delaware.

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Speaker 4: You know, we we've.

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Speaker 3: Seen Delaware in the past produce from an f players,

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none bigger than Joe Flacco, of course, who's won a

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Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Devin Neil.

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Speaker 3: I mean Marc Descharn's five to eleven, hovering around two

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hundred pounds, very similar to.

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Speaker 4: Devin Neil. But you look at what he.

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Speaker 3: Did last season at Delaware for the Blue Hens. He

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led the team with eight hundred and forty four rushing

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yards and six touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: But he also had two.

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Speaker 3: Hundred and ninety seven yards receiving and five touchdowns. He's

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a guy that doesn't have a lot of tread on

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the tire. He has the ability to catch the ball

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out at the backfield. Could he potentially be a third

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down slash pass catching back now? I know in his career,

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Alvin Kamara has been that every down back on third

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Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara has been that guy.

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Speaker 3: But Kamara's not getting any younger, and you're going to

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need somebody to spell Alvin Kamara to give Kamara a breather.

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I think on early downs it's Devin Neil, no question

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about it. He is that pure runner running back that

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you need. But if you need a guy out of

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the back, I mean Marcus Yarns did a really nice

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job at catching the ball out of the backfield in college.

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and forty four yards rushing to ninety seven receiving in

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twenty twenty three was even better nine hundred and thirty

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nine yards rushing fifteen touchdowns, also three hundred yards receiving

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out of the backfield This is a guy that he

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Speaker 4: All purpose back. He can do a little bit of

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Speaker 3: If Marcus Yarns can pass, block as well as get

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out of the backfield and catch passes, Marcus Yarns is

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going to make this team.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: We're going to see how he performs in preseason, what

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the rest of the offseason looks like, what the OTAs

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Speaker 4: When Ross hops on with us at.

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Speaker 3: Nine am, I'm gonna ask him about Devin Neil and

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Marcus Yarns. I'm not sure Kendre Miller makes this team

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because I don't know about you guys. I trust Clyde

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utit Layer more than I do Kendre Miller. I'm sure

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Clyde edit z Layer has had injury concerns, but we've

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only seen what he can do. He's been productive, He's

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played in big time games with the Kansas City Chiefs.

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just laid it out. Fourteen games in two years, three

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hundred yards rushing, two touchdowns. That is what Kendre Miller

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has given you as a New Orleans sink. And that's

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a guy who's a third round draft pick. Keep in mind,

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this coaching staff did not draft Kendre Miller. What they

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did do was draft Devin Neil, and they signed Marcus

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Speaker 4: Hilaire. Kendre Miller is still in his rookie deal.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those things where it's like you brought

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in Clyde Yarns, Devin Neil, Kendre Miller was just kind

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of here when he got here. Me and Jordan Jordan

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Miller or Jordan Mims makes this team. They already got

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rid of Jordan Mimes. They're already one down. Like, do

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you think Kendre Miller makes this team because I don't.

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Speaker 5: All right, so outside looking in, obviously not, because there

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is zero production of Kendre Miller. And you've been you've

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been wanting this so bad, not only for him to

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be on the field, but you've been looking for that

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guy to take that pressure off ak Like that was

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the whole point of Kendrem Miller was to come in

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and to believe. Yeah, literally just to relieviate the press

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in and be the guy. So I think the only

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universe that there's a way that Kenjre Miller makes this

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roster the first preseason game, he has to go off

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Speaker 4: Four yard or somebody like Neil or Clyde.

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Speaker 5: I know, somebody gets hurt, you know, injuries, you know,

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feel like the only way that Kendre Miller can really

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save himself on this Saints team this year is that

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either the first two preseason games he has to explode,

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like I'm talking like a fifty yard run, like something

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that the coach is like, oh, we can't teach this,

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Speaker 4: That you saw, something that the other guys don't have,

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Speaker 5: Like the burst and pop you've seen at TCU. Only

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way possible other than that, I think his bag's already packed.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of exactly what I was getting at with

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these other two guys, right, You're talking about something that

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the other guys don't have. Yeah, Marcus jon can catch

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the ball out of the backfield, at least in college,

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probably better than anybody you currently have on your team.

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Devin Neil, He's got the explosiveness out of the back here.

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Speaker 5: He got production.

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Speaker 3: You saw the yards per carry in college. You saw

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the production. Clyde former first round pick, he had production

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in college, which, like Kendre Miller's behind the eight ball

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on all three of those players. Like, right now, you

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have five running backs on the roster. I'm putting Kendre

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Miller fifth. You got Kamara and Clyde, Edwards Hilayer who

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have been there, they're veterans. You got Devin Neil who's

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going to make this team. And I think if Marcus

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Yarns outperforms Kendre Miller in preseason camp, like this staff

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Speaker 4: And then look, we always.

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Speaker 3: Criticized Dennis Allen for pretty much everything in rightfullysa. I

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it was a whole lot of knot that he never

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gave anything. The only time Dennis Allen ever got fired

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up was when he was criticizing Kendre Miller. I mean,

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clips here over and over of Dennis Allen being asked, hey,

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whin's Kendre Miller being healthy? And Dennis Allen's answer was

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pretty much quite so.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We don't really know what's wrong with it. So this

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is more than just an injury thing. It kind of

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seems like a miscommunication between him and the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 5: Hey didn't Dennis Island. Wasn't Dennis Island when I was like,

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you can't make the team in the tub or something

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like that about.

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Speaker 4: Dre Miller's Yeah, he never threw his players.

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Speaker 5: Under the bus ever. Ever, well, unless you unless you

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score on the Falcons.

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Speaker 4: Used to score the Falcons, but he did the Kendre Miller.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the only buy That tells me a

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lot about Kidre Miller. No, look, I don't know Kendre Miller.

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I'm not in that front office. kN Dre might be

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a great teammate. Dennis Allen didn't think he was. And

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now you bring in a new staff of these offensive

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minded guys. I mean, look at look at your offensive staff.

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Doug Nussmeyer, Kellen Moore is your offense. You're the facto

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offensive coordinator is also your head coach. Like these guys

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no offense, they know how to score points. If Kendre

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Miller's not producing in the preseason, Kendre Miller's not gonna

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make this team.

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Speaker 5: But you know the scariest thing though, that really goes

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back to your your main point. You're talking about who

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drafted him. Dennis Island drafted this man to under the bus. Yeah,

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that's the biggest red flag. It don't get a bigger record,

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a bigger reflag.

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Speaker 3: And that's after two years because you know what they say,

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it shouldn't be this way. But the higher draft pick

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you are, the longer legal lea you have. Kin Trey

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Miller's a third round pick literally, and Dennis Allen was

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done with him halfway through his second season.

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Speaker 4: That's scary, and it's because he has started two games.

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He's only played in fourteen.

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Speaker 3: He's averaging three point eight yards per carry, three hundred

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and four yards rushing in two touchdowns. That is what

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third round pick Kendre Miller has given.

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Speaker 5: You in two seasons.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying the guy's not talented. I think he is.

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We saw it at TCU.

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Speaker 3: But there's some sort of disconnect, whether it's injuries, whether

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it's a learning curve in the NFL, there is something.

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And if Kendre Miller doesn't get it together, he's going

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to get passed by Devin Neil. He's going to get

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passed back Glader Jelaire, and he's going to get passed

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by Marcus Arns and he's not going to make this team.

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Speaker 4: Now, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Really, you have Alvin Kamara and a giant question mark

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behind that, but I actually like the depth behind Alvin Kamara.

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If these guys could stay healthy, all right, we're gonna

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take a time out and we get back.

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Speaker 4: Stuart Mandel.

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Speaker 3: The athletic put out the top twenty five college football

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program since two thousand and it is just an incredibly

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bias list. We'll get into that next here on Off

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Off the Bench.

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Speaker 7: Today and welcome.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: In nour number two Wednesday edition of Off the Bench,

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Taylor Sharp here with you in for Jacob Pastor, Lundraville

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Real Jordan Kitchens along for the ride as well. Stuart

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Mandell of The Athletic put out a list on Twitter

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of his top twenty five college football programs. It's the

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year two thousand and When I look at this list,

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the first two words I thought of were recency bias.

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Speaker 1: I just.

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Speaker 4: I can't get behind this list.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: You know, you look at it, it's top twenty five,

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So sixteen through twenty five doesn't really matter. I don't

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care about that as much the top ten. If you

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want to go top ten, by the way, first off,

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Notre Dame at thirteen over Miami and Auburn. Now you

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can argue that a bunch of different ways. Miami and

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Auburn have the titles. Notre Dame, as I like to

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point out, hadn't really won anything since the eighties, but

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they have been a more consistent program in terms of

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getting to big Bowl games and getting to playoffs. Miami

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and Auburn haven't really done that in a number of years.

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So whatever you're splitting hairs there. If you want to

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look at reaching the pinnacle with titles, you go Miami Auburn.

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If you want to go consistency, Eugo, Notre Dame, I'm

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good with that. Florida State twelve, Michigan eleven, eh, whatever.

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I think Texas, USC, and Florida should all be ahead

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of Oregon. But again, Oregon has been more consistent, And

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this is why I go with recency bias.

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Speaker 4: They've been better off late.

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Speaker 3: But this list is not the best college football programs

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of the last ten years. It's the best since two thousand,

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USC has titles. Since two thousand, Texas has a title.

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Now Texas hasn't done anything since then. Now they've made

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back to back playoff appearances, haven't won a championship. I mean,

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since Vin Sjong walked off the field in the Rose

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Bowl against USC, Texas has zero titles. They got the

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same number that I do. Florida won two in three

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years with Urban Meyer. We remember that six and eight.

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Oregan hasn't done those things. But again, they haven't had

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the fall off that the Texas that a USC, that

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of Florida has.

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Speaker 4: So I think you're splitting hairs it.

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Speaker 3: Clemson at six, I'm fine with they have multiple titles,

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but that's really only been the last ten years or so.

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It is really when when Clemson started getting good. He

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has LSU at five. I'm okay with LSU at five

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for the most part. I mean, I think that's okay.

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In the past couple of years, LSU's been a little disappointing.

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I mean, hew, LSU's own fan base will tell you

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that you do have Georgia over LSU, which I can't

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get behind again. I'm gonna go back to recency bias. Recently,

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the last ten or so years, george has been dominant. Hell,

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they've probably been the premier program in college football. This

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list is since two thousand. LSU has three titles and

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it played for a fourth. Georgia only has two, and

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even when LSU's had down years, it hasn't been super down,

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not like a Texas, A Florida or USC.

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Speaker 4: At number three, though, that's where.

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Speaker 3: This list gets really really dicey, here's the Oklahoma Sooners

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at number three. Oklahoma won a title in the year

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two thousand and that's it now. They played for one

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in two thousand and eight against Florida. And if you

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want to go back to the argument of well consistency,

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they've made multiple BCS Bowls, they've played for a national championship,

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So Oklahoma has gotten there. They've done what they've needed

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to do in the regular season. They just haven't been

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able to get over the hump. If you want to

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have Oklahoma in the top five, that's fine. I think

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the argument could be made for Oklahoma to be in

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the top five because they've been a consistent program since

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two thousand. Problem is, I can't put them over Georgia

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and LSU, both of which have multiple titles.

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Speaker 4: Oklahoma has not.

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma has the Heisman's that's fine. If Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray,

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Jalen Hurts finished second. Caleb Williams was there ultimately won

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the Heisman at USC, but he was there as well.

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But you're not ranking these programs based on quarterback play.

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Sam Bradford won the Heisman, Andrey Jones was there. He

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was a good quarterback. But are you just ranking this

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on Oh well, these teams had a bunch of quarterbacks

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that were drafted really high and they won Heisman trophies.

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I think you have to dive a little bit more

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into that. And I'm about to do something that I

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never thought i would do, and that has defend the

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University of Alabama because on Stuart Mandel's list, the number

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one college football program since the year two thousand is

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the Ohio State Buckeyes. How in the hell are the

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Alabama Crimson Tide not the number one team on this list?

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Speaker 4: Get it?

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Speaker 3: Ohio State's consistent a lot like Oklahoma, but they have

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the titles to back it up as well. Ohio State

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three titles since two two thousand and two, twenty fourteen,

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twenty twenty four, Alabama six of them. Oh nine, twenty eleven,

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twenty twelve, twenty fifteen, twenty seventeen, twenty twenty. Part of

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the reason we hate Alabama Nick Saban so much in

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these parts is because they beat you every year.

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Speaker 4: They beat everybody every year.

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Speaker 3: They were the pinnacle of college football for ten seasons,

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and I get it up. Until Saban got there in

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two thousand and seven, they weren't great, but two thousand

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and seven to twenty twenty five, that's a big enough

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sample size. I don't really care what they did before

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two thousand and seven. I mean, you just go look

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at Nick Saban year by year. Saban played in four

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straight College Football Playoff National championship games. He wins it

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in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, he loses. That was the

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Hunter Renfro play Deshaun Watson to Hunter Renfro at the

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last second for Clemson's first national title. He wins in

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twenty seventeen, and then again Clemson in twenty eighteen gets

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them again, that's four straight national championship games. Also, they

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win in twenty twenty as they beat Ohio State, and

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then they lose in twenty twenty one. Oh, don't forget

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the three BCS national championships that Nick Saban has. I

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am no fan of Alabama. I'll never get up here

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and defend them again. This is one of those that

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I'm hoping Stuart Mandel put out just for clicks. I mean, hell,

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I'm talking about it right here. But you cannot have

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the University of Alabama anywhere other than number one.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look at what Nick Saban has done.

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Speaker 3: There is a reason he is considered the greatest coach

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in the history of college football. Sure, iiO State won

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the national championship last year. I think they're in a

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better spot to win one this year than they are

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the University of Alabama. But this is not the best

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programs in the last five to ten years. It's the

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best sense of the year two thousand and Nobody touches

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the Alabama Crimson Tide. With seven national championships, ten national

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championship appearances in a twenty five year period, three BCS titles,

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three College Football Playoff titles. They've done it in every format, BCS,

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four team playoff, you name it. Last year was the

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first year of the twelve team and they got left out.

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But Alabama is always competitive every year. I mean, we

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called last year a down year for Alabama because they

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lost three regular season games, and it is because that's

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how absurd Nick Saban was. Nick Saban's first year in Alabama,

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they weren't great. They were seven and six. Saban went

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ten to three in twenty ten. Since that time, he

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never lost more than two games in a season. Ever,

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twenty ten was time until this past season that Alabama

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had three losses in the regular season. You're not going

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to find a more consistent program than that. And again,

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going back to the LSU factor, I'm putting LSU over Oklahoma.

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I'm putting Georgia over Oklahoma. LSU has won three national titles.

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They've played for a fourth against Alabama in twenty eleven.

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And then if you want to throw the Heismans in there,

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you have two Heisman Trophy winners Joe Burrow Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 4: I don't get this.

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping this is just one of those clickbait things,

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and Stuart Mandel is not serious.

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Speaker 4: Because I have a big problem with this.

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Speaker 3: I mean to have Ohio State number one with three

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national titles, and yet they've been there. They've been consistent,

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they haven't really had a drop off, whether it was

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from Urban Meyer, they go straight into Ryan Day, he

473
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finally gets through, he wins the title.

474
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Speaker 4: But they've been a consistent team.

475
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Speaker 3: If you want to talk about most consistent teams since

476
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two thousand, sure maybe Ohio State has an argument. You

477
00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:03,440
cannot tell me under any circumstances, there is Ohio State

478
00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:06,759
a better college football program than Alabama in any decade

479
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,720
in any era, much less since twenty to twenty twenty five,

480
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when Alabama has six national types.

481
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Speaker 4: No way about.

482
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Speaker 3: If you want to know the rest of the list,

483
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I mean, the bottom of it doesn't really matter. But

484
00:23:17,279 --> 00:23:18,720
we can just go through the rest. I gave you

485
00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:21,640
the top fifteen. We can run through sixteen to twenty five.

486
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,559
Here real quick, Wisconsin sixteen, Penn State seventeen, Virginia Tech eighteen,

487
00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:30,000
TCU nineteen, Boise State twenty, and then the bottom five

488
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,160
Okie State twenty one, Utah twenty two, I what twenty three,

489
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Washington twenty four, Michigan State twenty five, I really care

490
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,079
about the bottom of that list. Sure, they're all consistent

491
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programs that have hovered around eight and four every year.

492
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I mean, that's that's kind of what you get to

493
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sixteen to twenty five.

494
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Speaker 4: I'm good with it.

495
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Speaker 3: I'm really good with this list until you get to

496
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Oregon at seven. I could drop them a few spots,

497
00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:56,319
but that's up five. Having Oklahoma at three over Georgia

498
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,400
and LSU, I don't understand, and then having Ohios one

499
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,240
over Alabama is an outrage. I don't I don't know

500
00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:05,440
how you can do that in good conscience.

501
00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 4: All right, Look, we're gonna take a quick time out.

502
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We get back.

503
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Speaker 3: The NBA playoffs have been really entertaining both teams, the

504
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,799
Indiana Pacers and the Oklahoma City Thunder a three to

505
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,279
one lead Eastern Conference Western Conference. Me and Jordan are

506
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:19,559
gonna chop that up a little bit when we get

507
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back here. On Off the bench.

508
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Speaker 2: Off the bench, go to get Gordon dot com.

509
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510
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511
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can see what they can do for you cases they

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can handle for you in the courtroom.

513
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Speaker 2: Like a full list is on the home page.

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518
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see right there the numbers tallying up and what they've

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521
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east to west, everywhere in between. Does that matter where

522
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you're listening to us in state of Louisiana, we are

523
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talking to you. So you can go to the website

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Gidgordon dot com. You can go to any major social

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media that handle's going to be at Get Gordon, so Instagram, Facebook,

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x whatever it might be.

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Speaker 6: So three one eight, two, two, five nine eight five

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about eighty eight, eighty eight, eighty eight, get Gordon and

531
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get it done.

532
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Off the Bench.

533
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Speaker 4: Welcome back.

534
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: In hour number two, Wednesday edition of OTB, we just

535
00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:58,880
got into a big Emmanuel McCrone discussion during break Alandra

536
00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:01,599
filling me in. I remember you talking about this a

537
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,039
long time ago, and then I guess it was the

538
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,359
slap that brought it up because you mentioned it a

539
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,880
little bit yesterday when somebody asked about the Macron title fight,

540
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,119
and then Victoria asked me. She goes, this was last night,

541
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,599
like right before about to go to bed. She's like, hey,

542
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,240
do you do you know about this situation? Like it

543
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,960
is so funny. A Landra mentioned this exact same thing

544
00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:22,839
two day. I was like, the first time I had

545
00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:24,920
heard about it in a while. So I guess the

546
00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:27,319
slap herd around the world is gaining a little bit

547
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:27,720
of attraction.

548
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 8: I think, so something that I've been trying to tell

549
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,279
people about for a while now is starting to like

550
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,200
slowly come out. And I just hope everybody goes down

551
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,559
the same rabbit hole I did, because it's a great one.

552
00:26:43,799 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 4: Well, I couldn't remember, like I remembered a long time

553
00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:49,400
ago that you had, like I was trying to tell

554
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,799
you about it. Yeah, Okay.

555
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 8: Sometimes I come in here and I probably look like

556
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,279
Charlie on Always Sunny when he's.

557
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 4: Like got all the yeah strings together.

558
00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like I feel like sometimes I come in here

559
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,400
and I just tell y'all crazy stuff that like rabbit

560
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,359
holes that I go down, And when T Bob was here,

561
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,920
he was so dismissive about it, and he thinks I'm insane,

562
00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:16,799
But I mean, eventually it all comes out. So what

563
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,440
do they say, what's done in the dark.

564
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: Always comes to the light or whatever. Yeah, I don't

565
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,079
know where you're going. Yeah, I think it was the

566
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,480
saying it's something like that, something in the dark comes

567
00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:29,599
to the light. That's That's what I know now because

568
00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:31,279
I remember it a long time ago. You were telling

569
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,279
us about like, oh, well, there's a rumor that, you know,

570
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,400
Brigitte's not who she says she is, and then this,

571
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:38,039
this and this, and then I kind of forgot about

572
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:41,240
who it was. I remember the conversation, and then you

573
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,079
brought up McCrone yesterday, and then last night Victoria goes, oh, yeah,

574
00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:46,319
there's a rumor that like it's not really her and

575
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,880
this and this. I was like, oh wait a minute,

576
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,880
now I remembered the conversation that you and I had

577
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,559
a long time ago.

578
00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 8: Like the worst part of this that has nothing to

579
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,160
do with like the I wouldn't even call it a

580
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,680
conspiracy theory, that has nothing to do with whether Brigitte

581
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:05,279
is a man or not that it has nothing to

582
00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:10,960
do with that. Regardless of whatever, she was forty, she

583
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:16,680
was his teacher, and they say they say that she

584
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,359
was forty and he was seventeen, but really he was

585
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,160
fourteen when they first started like interacting and knowing each

586
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,240
other because she was like his teacher and he was

587
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:32,000
in theater and she saw him doing a play and

588
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,960
she just thought he was so well read and all

589
00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:37,920
this stuff. And that's just weird to me. You're an

590
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:44,240
older teacher and you're trying to get with a student.

591
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Speaker 4: How old are they now?

592
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Speaker 8: I don't know, but that that's what let me see.

593
00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:51,599
How long I mean, they're both like this is a

594
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:55,880
while ago, Yeah, they're so. Bridgie is alleged, Well she's

595
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,160
seventy two, Okay, so they've been together for a while

596
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and he's forty seven.

597
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Speaker 2: Okay.

598
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Speaker 8: Yeah, And all I'm gonna say is this, this is

599
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,799
the last thing I'm gonna say about this, because I

600
00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:09,440
feel like I'm sounding real crazy and this is probably

601
00:29:09,519 --> 00:29:12,319
not something like this is probably like something we probably

602
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:15,279
shouldn't have like brought on the air. But you can't

603
00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:23,440
find any childhood photos of Regie machrome, Okay, And I

604
00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:23,880
just think.

605
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:25,799
Speaker 3: That maybe maybe it's just a secretive. Maybe she just

606
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,359
kept to herself. Flandra, I mean it doesn't always. No,

607
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,400
I'm kidding. This is sketchy. The more I hear about it, Like,

608
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,079
I'm as much of a conspiracy theorist as a landre Is.

609
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,599
I am normally a conspiracy theorist denier. I'm kind of

610
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,559
on board with this. I mean, I'm kind of like,

611
00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:42,960
where where the hell was Brigie? Like, she didn't she

612
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:44,319
didn't take class pictures.

613
00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:46,519
Speaker 4: She not that damn old. They took those when you

614
00:29:46,599 --> 00:29:47,480
were when you were younger, I.

615
00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:50,119
Speaker 8: Mean seven like photos of the rest of her family.

616
00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: Oh see, that's even sketchy, but just not in the

617
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,400
family photos. Not so she was always taking a picture.

618
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Speaker 8: So they do have like a couple where they're saying

619
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,920
it's Bridgie, but it looks nothing like Brigie.

620
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you could find a random little girl and.

621
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, but it's like two photos that they show of

622
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:13,559
her when she was younger. But I don't know, we

623
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,480
have a y'all do the deep dive. Yeah, I mean,

624
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,319
you know, it's it's been a pretty good Wednesday.

625
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: We opened the show.

626
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: We opened the show talk about Jordan's bathroom situation, which

627
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:25,039
directly leads to, uh, did he get into a fight

628
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:27,000
with a coach with a kettlebell? And now we're talking

629
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,359
about some inappropriate teacher student relationship that may or may

630
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,079
not have even occurred, because we're not even sure this

631
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:33,799
is a real person.

632
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 5: So that's that's called peak morning radio. You know something.

633
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: The good news is if Brigitte's not real, then she's

634
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,559
not in trouble for the student teacher relationship.

635
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 8: She has tried to Oh my god, y'all got me started,

636
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,400
because she she's tried to sue multiple people for defamation. Yeah,

637
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,640
and none of it it's about like small details, like

638
00:30:57,799 --> 00:30:59,839
none of it is actually about the subject.

639
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,759
Speaker 4: So it's like, I'm not denying this.

640
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: I'm denying this one little small part that you that

641
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,680
you mentioned or failed demand.

642
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: I can tell you more.

643
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,799
Speaker 8: During the break, but it's I feel like I'm unlike

644
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:11,440
unhinged right now.

645
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:15,839
Speaker 3: I can I can feel that all right, before we

646
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,319
gotta break Jordan real quick. Eastern Conference, Western Conference Pacers

647
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,480
Thunder both up three to one. Are those series over?

648
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 5: Uh uh okay, Minnesota? It might be because okay, see

649
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,359
This is the best way I had explained. Okay see,

650
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:35,279
okay see is like a boa constrictor. Like they're like

651
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:37,599
a python. They just squeeze the life out of you.

652
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:39,160
Like it feels like, I mean, they have the best

653
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,000
defense in the NBA. It feels like you're in the

654
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:42,960
game and then you look up and he's going to

655
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,160
twenty to two run or something like that. So, okay, see,

656
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:48,720
it might be over. Uh maybe that I can I

657
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:50,640
can see the Knicks getting one more, but there's I

658
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:52,160
think both series are over. I think it will be

659
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,039
okay see in the Pacers. I can see the Knicks

660
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:55,680
getting one more because they got to go back to

661
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,839
New York. I can see that. Okay. I mean Minnesota

662
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,640
is just like they uns Anthony Lewis pops off, which

663
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,960
I highly doubt will happen. With the defense, They're just

664
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,039
getting the life squeezed out of them. So yeah, I

665
00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:07,519
think both series are officially over.

666
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,119
Speaker 3: How much of the game last night and I'm like,

667
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,559
oh man, you know this is a must win for

668
00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:12,519
the Knicks because the Pacers will go up three to one.

669
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:14,000
It's hard to come back. Those a must win for

670
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:16,720
the Pacers. Yeah, because they won voted their games in

671
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:19,079
New York. New York wins the first one in Indiana.

672
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:22,160
If New York would have tied that series up last night,

673
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:24,160
go back to the home court would have been back

674
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,279
to New York. They would have went back to the Garden,

675
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,680
tied all the advantages, nicked. That was a must win

676
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:32,559
for the Paceries last night more than anything. One more

677
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,759
question before you gotta break is, however many bench warmers

678
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,519
or Hayden ass haters voted Tyrese Haliburton is the most

679
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:43,960
overrated player in the NBA. Is that the biggest slip

680
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,160
of the NBA season so far?

681
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 5: I mean it's up there. I mean it's up there

682
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,960
because it turned him into a whole nother animal. Like

683
00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:59,920
Halliburton was good, but this this shows you that he's

684
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:01,799
able to take that next step.

685
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:02,599
Speaker 2: Like he was.

686
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say he was. Caliburn was around you know,

687
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,759
maybe nine ten talking about point guard. I'm not talking

688
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:10,480
about like probably around nine to ten before the playoffs started.

689
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:13,839
Now he's in the discussion where it's like, yo, it's Haliburton.

690
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 4: See the best point guard in that lague.

691
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 5: Best guard in the NBA. Yeah, So that it kind

692
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,000
of was like the juice that you know, game a

693
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:19,599
little bit of juice.

694
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 7: He needed that.

695
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 5: Everybody needs a little bit of hate. Everybody needs a

696
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,200
little bit hate.

697
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 7: Man.

698
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: Look, I've been on this, this Haliburn thing for a

699
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:27,039
while just because like people act like all the Pacers

700
00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:28,839
came out of nowhere. This team was in the conference

701
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,279
finals the last year. Like sure they got manhandled by

702
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:34,240
the Celtics. Celtics kind of did that to everybody, Like

703
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:36,599
this team was in the conference finals a year ago.

704
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,279
This is not the first time we've seen this from

705
00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:40,640
tyre Celibert now, to Jordan's point, like he's at another

706
00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:43,279
level now, like maybe to this level, this is the

707
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:45,200
first time we've seen it. But you know, I wanted

708
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,160
to bring up these numbers to tell you just how

709
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,960
overrated Tyrese Halliburton is in NBA history. They're the players

710
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,640
that have posted a thirty ten fifteen triple double in

711
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:01,839
the postseason, Oscar Robertson, Nicola Jokich, Tyresellabert the player to

712
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,160
do that without a single turnover, only Tyrese Halibert. He

713
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:08,159
had thirty two points, twelve rebounds, fifteen assists and no

714
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,599
turnovers and played over forty minutes for thirty thirty eight

715
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:12,400
minutes is what he played.

716
00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:15,119
Speaker 5: It was special, like it it felt like you were

717
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:16,880
watching somebody in that flow state.

718
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: It's it's one of the most perfect playoff performances I've

719
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,519
ever seen. And it's it's hard to say that.

720
00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 5: Over fifteen zero turnovers. You can't explain that in it

721
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,800
not one mistake, you didn't mess up one time.

722
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you can mention it. It's hard to say,

723
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,480
like quiet second half with thirty two points, but it was.

724
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,599
He had twenty eight and nine at halftime, Tyrey's Helibert

725
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:40,880
and Damn near out a triple double at halftime of

726
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,239
a must win Game four.

727
00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 4: I mean, that's how big he was. And there was

728
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:45,519
a stout on the broadcast.

729
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:47,559
Speaker 3: I will correct it if I find out it was wrong,

730
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,760
but I believe whoever was calling the game said they're

731
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,280
thirty thirty plus point fifteen assist games in the playoff

732
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:02,840
or yeah, have only been done by three players in

733
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,840
NBA history. Terre's Halliburton has five of them already and

734
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,000
he's twenty four years old.

735
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 5: It's crazy.

736
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: It's just you you look, he's the he's the first

737
00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:13,800
player in Pacers history with multiple playoff triple doubles.

738
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,519
Speaker 5: But I'll be honest, what's holding him back. I'm not

739
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:19,039
even gonna say like this is his fault. It's just

740
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:20,159
because he plays for the Pacers.

741
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:20,519
Speaker 2: That's it.

742
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 5: Like if he played for any.

743
00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 4: Other dude, if he was with the LA Lakers or

744
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:25,719
the New York Nags.

745
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, the conversation with his name would be oh man,

746
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,840
they went to the conference finals. Like you said, he

747
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,559
went to the COMSS finals last year. But just because

748
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:33,239
of the Paces, Nobody's like, oh, they can't do it again.

749
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,480
It's the Paces who cares like but.

750
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:36,199
Speaker 3: And then so many people are like, oh, this team

751
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,960
came out of nowhere, know what they did, and they

752
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,440
really didn't like they should have been. They should have

753
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,360
been one of your favorites coming into the playoffs. Yeah,

754
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,400
it was more than just Haliburton, Like Pascal.

755
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:47,119
Speaker 4: Sea, how comes a monster? Miles Turner's really good down low.

756
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:50,119
Speaker 5: Say Nimron, I mean Niece Smith went god mode again.

757
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 3: We were talking about TJ McConnell during break like, he's

758
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,920
one of the best backup point guards in the league easily,

759
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:57,760
Like this team's deep bendic Matheren had twenty points off

760
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,599
the bench last.

761
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 5: Nink about this though. You have Halliburton who's running at

762
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,320
his pace. The Pacers play with like so you have

763
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,599
Halliburton that's controlling the pace like this super fast, they

764
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:09,119
up and down. He comes out the game. Here comes TJ. McConnell.

765
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,679
Speaker 1: No kind of.

766
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 9: He's a lot smaller like Halliburton six. But they the

767
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,159
same way, same thing, They do, the exact same thing,

768
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,079
just energy. It's hard, man, it's I'm gonn tell you.

769
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:21,199
Let me take this before we wrap up. It's super hard.

770
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 5: The problem with the Knicks is I think they would

771
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,519
have matched a way better if the Celtics made it

772
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:27,880
this far. It's the Pacers are so deep and they

773
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,480
go so fast. The Knicks are running.

774
00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 4: They play five guys, that's what they do.

775
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 5: Like it's dude, you got guys to sub it in

776
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,960
and out fresh. It's like, what can you do?

777
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:39,639
Speaker 4: I mean, the Pacers have a nine man rotation the Knicks.

778
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 5: Sometimes that's crazy.

779
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 3: All right, look, we're gonna take a time out. Just

780
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,039
wanted to get a little playoff talk in. There's there

781
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:49,039
was a hell of a basketball game last night between

782
00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:50,840
the Pacers and the Knicks. We're gonna take a time

783
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,199
out here, we come back, Bryce Coon if twenty four

784
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to seven sports is gonna hop on tug a little

785
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LSU crewdon that's coming up here on off the bench,

786
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Off the bench.

787
00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: Are you good?

788
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789
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803
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do have some time left, right, You still got about

804
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a week left and they're going to announce a winner

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to It's the Bench, Welcome back in, Welcome

808
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back in final segment. I re number two here on

809
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a Wednesday edition of Off the Bench. Let's go out

810
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,679
to the phone lines right now. Bryce Coon covers LSU

811
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,000
for two four seven Sports. Bryce, how are you this morning?

812
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 10: Dude? Well, man, I appreciate you having me on.

813
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, thanks for the time. We talk a little

814
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,320
recruiting here last week. Kind of the big news at

815
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,360
the beginning of last week was Bo Bentley narrowing his

816
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:46,679
choices down to LSU in Oklahoma. Appears to be a

817
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,679
two headed battle for his services, and you had a

818
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,880
nice write up on him. Just kind of give me

819
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,000
your thoughts on Bo Bentley as a prospect, Like, if

820
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:56,760
the Tigers do land in what would they beginning?

821
00:38:58,199 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, No, I think you know you can go with

822
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:02,079
far to really kind of look at what our national

823
00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:04,719
scouting team has done, and you know, just even watching

824
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,840
the film you can kind of see it. I think

825
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,639
LSU fans will get a better glimpse of it now

826
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:10,920
that he's in the SEC, but that college comp right

827
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,199
now is John the Pier. And I think when you

828
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,480
got to have a guy that you kind of look

829
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,960
at some of the stats and the tier has put

830
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:18,960
up at the college level so far, I mean, a

831
00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:21,199
great year last year out West, and we'll see what

832
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,280
he could do in Norman. But and just the guy

833
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,960
that can I wouldn't say a true true dual threat,

834
00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:27,880
but really a player that can just hit you in

835
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,719
a multitude of ways. And so you know, there's a

836
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,039
lot of I would say, I guess qualms. Some people

837
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:36,880
have some gripes to have about Garrettnsmeyer's game if you

838
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,239
want to about the man the unwillingness or inability to

839
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,920
run the football. Bo Bentley is the guy that I

840
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,280
think that you know, he's not afraid to tuck it

841
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,599
and pick up some yardage there, He's willing to do it.

842
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:49,679
He's not the pure runner that a guy like Jaye

843
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,840
Daniels obviously is, but there just can hit you in

844
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,719
different ways than I think the biggest part about it

845
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,039
is just the precision and accuracy that he has showcased

846
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:01,679
at all three levels, not just in the shorten the intermediate,

847
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,559
but kind of the deep ball there as well in

848
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:05,480
the high school level. And that's something that Joe Sloan

849
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:07,400
like when you go out to these camps, especially in

850
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,199
the summer when they host the top quarterbacks each year,

851
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:13,039
that's something that just on immediately puts these guys in

852
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,000
the test, like, Hey, we are going to make sure

853
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,039
you can obviously throw the five yard out route, We're

854
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:18,679
going to make sure that you can throw the ten

855
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,239
to fifteen, but then I want to see how you

856
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,920
can throw the twenty to twenty five plus yard throw

857
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,480
as well. And so you know, Bentley checks those boxes

858
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:27,880
the prospect and let's Taydler, you mean you followed it

859
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,519
long enough, you know as well as I do. They're

860
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:32,000
far from a finished product, and you know, our ranking

861
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:34,000
system tries to do a pretty good job of these things.

862
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:36,800
But I think in terms of Bentley, you kind of

863
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,440
have the willingness to run the football and kind of

864
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:42,639
be that dual threat attack. But also, man, he can

865
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,800
throw the ball. He's got some really good accuracy in

866
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,719
some really good touch, especially in that intermediate to long

867
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,440
passing games.

868
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:50,639
Speaker 3: What do you think the Tygers stand with Bentley? Like

869
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,480
you know, LSU Oklahoma, like you think anybody has the

870
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:54,119
lead right now.

871
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 10: Well, you know, it's kind of been why they reported that.

872
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,039
You know, Bentley is the guy that grew up Oklahoma fan,

873
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,800
and you know, I think that that definitely plays into

874
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,480
it a little bit of course, Like I mean, did

875
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,880
you playing for the hometown team? Looks LSU fans and

876
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,960
evens US in the media we always talk about, you know,

877
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:13,960
the pride for some of these kids in the state

878
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:15,920
to be able to play and put on for the

879
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,719
home state team. That obviously kind of makes sense when

880
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,079
you talk about Bentley and his favorite school growing up

881
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:24,559
being Oklahoma. But I'm very hard for us, and they

882
00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:27,519
talked with some people, you know, when it was kind

883
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:30,960
of the top three was Georgia, Oklahoma, LSU, and Georgia

884
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,760
obviously secured the commitment of five star Jhurtis. It was

885
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,000
one of those things where Palmer's they really kind of

886
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:40,599
felt like it was Georgia versus LSU, and Oklahoma was

887
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:43,719
still there, but maybe Oklahoma was in that Tier two

888
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,599
category and was a one A, one B situation. You know,

889
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,039
I don't think Joe, Sloana them have done anything for

890
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:51,440
me right now to not think that they're in the lead.

891
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,440
I think this is something that you know and all

892
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:57,360
obviously with the announcement of his commitment date kind of

893
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,119
being right after that ov to Oklahoma here in the

894
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:02,639
next couple of weeks, it's something that's going to wrap

895
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,760
up quickly. So I think heading into this weekend, you've

896
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,199
got a really good opportunity to kind of iron out

897
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,679
some things, iron out some details that you like. Because

898
00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:14,079
from all from talking with sources, he likes what Joe

899
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:16,639
Sloan and s LSU offense is about. They like what

900
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,679
he's about. There's not much of getting to know each

901
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,199
other more at this point. It's really kind of you

902
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,000
know the play and the purpose to pitch making sure

903
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:26,280
you hit on all those right marks.

904
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 4: This weekend, there's a few more for you here.

905
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:32,079
Speaker 3: Tristan Keyes currently committed the five star wide receiver, but

906
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:33,400
he's still taking his visits.

907
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:33,559
Speaker 7: Now.

908
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:35,519
Speaker 3: We see guys do this all the time, But I mean,

909
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:37,480
what's the confidence level right now that LS you can

910
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:37,880
keep him?

911
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:39,199
Speaker 5: Yeah.

912
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 10: I went out to Hattie berg to about a week

913
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,599
and a half ago and sat down with his new

914
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,400
head coach, sat down with his offensive coordinator who's coached

915
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,480
him since he was in the eighth grade and even

916
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:50,400
sat down with Tristan for for a little bit, and

917
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,840
I think the feeling that I got away from it is, look,

918
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,320
I mean, this kid is a top rated receiver in

919
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,840
the country and he's going to enjoy the process. And look, Taylor,

920
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,480
I don't know about you, but you and I probably

921
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,960
weren't as beneficial to be able to enjoy things like that.

922
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:04,840
So go and enjoy it. Take the visit, you know,

923
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,199
and ginger fighting and guiding that OV season is. And

924
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,719
I think the big thing for dis recruitment is, you know,

925
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,880
every single person I talked to up and around that school,

926
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,320
from whether it was coaches, even a couple of teachers

927
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,599
as well, was that LSU has just made their presence

928
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,519
knows so well, and they've just consistently been around the school.

929
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:28,920
They've been around trust in his family, and they've been

930
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,039
around the coaching man who just to get to know

931
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:33,199
him more. And you know, and this day and age,

932
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:35,360
when you talk about a number one receiver, I think

933
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,400
the immediate reaction is when you see he sets up

934
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,360
a visit to their school, is like, Okay, the money

935
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,840
being thrown around, and that's that's a piece of the puzzle.

936
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,960
For sure when you have that high of a rank

937
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:46,079
and you're that type of player. But you know, just

938
00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:49,239
talking with Keys, like the big message that LSU has

939
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,199
hit home with him is we can offer you opportunities

940
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,639
to help yourself, to help your family now. But this

941
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,960
is a place where you can come and you cannot

942
00:43:57,079 --> 00:43:59,119
just get the you know, the first NFL check. But

943
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we're we're getting guys that you know, we're developing and

944
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they're getting that big second NFL contract and that's kind

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of the big piece of the puzzle. So look, it

946
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doesn't hurt when you have, you know, obviously the track

947
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record that LSU does, even as recently as as Brian

948
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Thomas Junior and league neighbors, who are you know, just

949
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lived on fire last year. So I think heading into

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the kind of you know where he's going to take

951
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some more visits, I still feel comfortable saying LSU, you know,

952
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is winning the battle. That's kind of how I talk

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about recruiting. Now, you got to win the war. They've

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won the initial battle. I still think that they're leading,

955
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and you know the relationship with Courts has hankin just

956
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from even talking with Keys, like it's much more than

957
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just the bad. So I think it's just it would

958
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be really surprising, which I know LSU has unfortunately seen

959
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a lot of surprising stuff not go their way at

960
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times in the recruiting world. But it would just be

961
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really surprising with the work that they've done, was not

962
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just him, but his family and everyone around him, for

963
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him to kind of flip through the cracks. And I said, truly, Taylor,

964
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I think LSU would have to miss up somewhere and

965
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I just don't see that happening.

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Speaker 2: Rush.

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Speaker 3: Your Tiger fans really appreciate that. Bryce, we were up

968
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against a heart break. But real quick, before we get

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you out of here, where can people see more of

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your stuff?

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Speaker 10: Of course? Man, no, go twenty four to seven. Come

972
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join us. It's a great time. We've obviously got Obcason

973
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kicking off this weekend. As we were talking, I'm working

974
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on a big piece kind of previous, a couple of

975
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targets that are coming in this weekend college baseball. Obviously

976
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we've got the region this weekend. But yeah, man, it's

977
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a fun time. Come join the crowd for what's going

978
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to be a really fentful months of June on the

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recruiting space. But Taylor I appreciate it time man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Bryce, thanks for hopping on with us. That

981
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right there was Bryce Coon covers LSU for twenty four

982
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seven sports over there at go to for seven. That's

983
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going to wrap up our number two here on a

984
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Wednesday of OTB. We've had a jam pack show so

985
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far and it's gonna continue an hour three top of

986
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the hour nine am Rawster Jackson locked on Saints Louisiana

987
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Sports dot Net. He's gonna hop on give us a

988
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little update from OTAs. We're gonna talk some SEC Spring

989
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meetings as that's currently going on, which is actually where

990
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Capestor is. Then Doug Thompson's gonna hop one talk some

991
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LSU baseball, and then we will close this thing out

992
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with Ask the Bench to stay tuned. We got a

993
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JAMP backed one number three. I got a lot more

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coming up for you here on a Wednesday edition of

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Off the Bench.

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