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<v Speaker 1>Today. It all happens.

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<v Speaker 2>We may not have a result for Wednesday, Thursday or Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>but nonetheless it happens on a week from today. Joining

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<v Speaker 2>you and I now is Frank Lrose, who is the

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio Secretary of State. He's in charge of all eighty

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<v Speaker 2>eight county elections. And Frank LaRose, welcome again to the

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, I had on

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday Sherry Poland, the excellent executive director of the Hamley

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<v Speaker 2>County Board of Elections. She gave us some numbers, So

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<v Speaker 2>can you give the American people some numbers about from

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<v Speaker 2>the Secretary of State's perspective, how many have voted by

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<v Speaker 2>mail at this point a week out, how many have

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<v Speaker 2>walked in? How many ballots are out there not yet

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<v Speaker 2>return I need all that information.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a full report.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sir, and you're right. Sherry is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best in the business. We're honored to have her. And

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, in Ohio, we will give you the

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<v Speaker 3>results on election night. We brew a pot of coffee

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<v Speaker 3>and stay up late and do our work avail. All

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<v Speaker 3>this information is available on our website as well, which

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<v Speaker 3>is ohiosos dot gov slash data we've got an all

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<v Speaker 3>new data dashboard. And so what this tells us is

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<v Speaker 3>that at this point, as of our last update several

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<v Speaker 3>hours ago, one point one million Ohioans have requested an

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<v Speaker 3>AST ballot, about seven hundred thousand have returned their asketee ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>That means sixty five percent of people that have requested

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<v Speaker 3>their ballot have actually sent it back in. So if

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<v Speaker 3>if it's sitting on your dashboard or sitting on your

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<v Speaker 3>kitchen table, make sure to get it in the mail.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got to get postmarked by next Monday, but no

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<v Speaker 3>reason to wait. Early in person voting has been strong

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<v Speaker 3>as well. Nine hundred and forty one thousand Ohioans have

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<v Speaker 3>taken advantage of early voting. And so when you combine

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<v Speaker 3>early in absentee voting one point six to eight million Ohioans,

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<v Speaker 3>one point six to eight million Ohiolands have already voted.

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<v Speaker 3>But Lilly, here's the number that I think is really

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<v Speaker 3>interesting as well. Republicans are outpacing Democrats in both early

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<v Speaker 3>and absentee voting by by a lot. Right, five hundred thousand,

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred and fifteen thousand Republicans have already voted early.

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<v Speaker 3>Only three hundred and forty nine thousand Democrats have. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not the way it used to be. It

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<v Speaker 3>used to be if Republicans were not trailing by too

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<v Speaker 3>much when the polls opens on election day, we felt

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good about it. The fact that Republicans are leading

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats by this number in early voting, I think says

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<v Speaker 3>a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying that at this point, this Tuesday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>and they got another week to go, that grossly more

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans have early voted than Democrats, and that's quite unusual,

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, that's registered Republicans, so that means

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be the only way to be a

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<v Speaker 3>registered Republican means you vote in the primaries, or a

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<v Speaker 3>registered Democrat for that matter. And so of course there's

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<v Speaker 3>a large number of what we call unaffiliated voters that

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<v Speaker 3>just don't vote in spring primaries, so they don't show

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<v Speaker 3>up with a partisan affiliation. But among registered Republicans it

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<v Speaker 3>is one data metric. But among registered Republicans we are

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<v Speaker 3>outpacing registered Democrats by well over one hundred thousand votes

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So if one point seven million approximately have already voted

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<v Speaker 2>either returned, there are ballots, which is about seven hundred thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>and then those who vote in person, the numbers about

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<v Speaker 2>one point seven million. By the end of business today,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll probably be right out one point seven million. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you extrapolate from that by Monday close of business how

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<v Speaker 2>many Ohiglands would have voted early, either in person or

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<v Speaker 2>buy the mail.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I'm not gonna hazard a guess on that, because invariably,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm a little low, then the mainstream media says

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<v Speaker 3>he's predicting low turnout. And if I'm a little high,

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<v Speaker 3>then people say, oh, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say this, the numbers are really strong. They're

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<v Speaker 3>on par with what we've seen in past elections, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're on pace to have another record breaking election.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say this too. Regardless, the boards of elections are ready.

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<v Speaker 3>If people decide to wait and come on Tuesday, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>be ready for that. If we have a large turnout

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<v Speaker 3>this weekend, for example, there may be lines. You got

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<v Speaker 3>to be smart about this. If you decide to show

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<v Speaker 3>up on Saturday afternoon to the early voting center, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the highest traffic time, so you're probably gonna wait line.

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<v Speaker 3>If you go on Thursday afternoon, at three pm. You're

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<v Speaker 3>not likely to see lines at the early voting location then,

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<v Speaker 3>So again, whatever you do, we'll be ready to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that you have an honest vote and that it's

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<v Speaker 3>convenient in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's talk gross numbers. I like to deal with facts.

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<v Speaker 2>Some deal with hyperbole. I deal with facts. There's about

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<v Speaker 2>twelve million Ohioans alive right now, about twelve million, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would assume there's about three million underage of eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully they're not voting. So this election is similar to

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<v Speaker 2>what happened in twenty twenty or a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going to be in your guestimation, the total turnout,

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<v Speaker 2>the total number of votes casting this election is approximately what.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, again, that's not a number that I like to pardicularly,

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<v Speaker 3>but i'd saying I'll say this. We set a record

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty, the all time highest turnout election, by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, an election where in Ohio Republicans did very well.

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<v Speaker 3>So don't let anybody say that high turnout benefits the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>When Ohio and show up in large numbers, actually usually

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<v Speaker 3>votes well for Republicans. But we set a record in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty, we may break that record this.

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<v Speaker 1>Year, which is what what's the record?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, gosh, have like seventy seventy five something?

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<v Speaker 3>That was it was, it was something in that in

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<v Speaker 3>that area.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's talk about lawsuits. I see in Virginia, Glenn

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<v Speaker 2>Youngkin is being sued. They were about eighteen hundred to

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<v Speaker 2>persons living in Virginia who self identified as not able

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<v Speaker 2>to vote because they're not citizens. There's a federal law

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<v Speaker 2>that says to vote, you have to be a US citizen. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>in Virginia, he said, well, I got seventeen hundred so

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<v Speaker 2>called human beings living in Virginia who admit they're not citizens.

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore I'm taking them off the voter rolls. The federal

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<v Speaker 2>government sued the governor, saying, wait a minute, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>do that. You can't take off non citizens from voter rules.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me in Ohio what's happening in that regard.

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<v Speaker 3>So in Ohio we have been working to remove non

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<v Speaker 3>citizens as well. It hasn't gotten as much attention because

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<v Speaker 3>they haven't sued US. I think that's probably because the

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<v Speaker 3>way that we structured it in Ohio was narrowly crafted

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that we could remove non citizens from

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<v Speaker 3>the voter roles without at the same time getting into

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<v Speaker 3>the crosshairs of DJ Here's how we've done it. We

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<v Speaker 3>do it on an individual basis. When we first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>we work to prevent non citizens from ever becoming register,

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<v Speaker 3>but if they do get registered within a week or two,

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<v Speaker 3>we have removed them because we check the voter rules

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<v Speaker 3>on the front end. As new registrations come in, we

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<v Speaker 3>verify them against the Ohio BMV database, against the single

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<v Speaker 3>federal database they let us choose. I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>access to the other ones, and if we flag them

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<v Speaker 3>as a non citizen, we do further investigation, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we individually investigate those and instruct the boards on a

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<v Speaker 3>one on one basis to remove them from the rules.

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<v Speaker 3>Since just the last couple of months, I've removed over

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<v Speaker 3>seven hundred non citizens from the voter rules. And so

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<v Speaker 3>when Democrats say that there's no such thing as non

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<v Speaker 3>citizens attempting to register to vote, that's hogwash. We found it.

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<v Speaker 3>Seven hundred out of twelve million is a relatively small number.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're not going to just allow that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>crime to accer in Ohio. We're going to identify it,

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<v Speaker 3>remove them from the rules, and we been doing it

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<v Speaker 3>in a way that I'm confident is consistent, although DJ

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<v Speaker 3>is definitely sneaking around, sniffing around, if you will, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 3>and trying to find me messing up so that they

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<v Speaker 3>can file a lawsuit here as well. We're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to give them that pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would the DOJ not agree with you that non

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<v Speaker 2>citizens shouldn't vote? So when you take them off, how

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<v Speaker 2>come for Genuoue sued and you weren't sued.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I'll give you their public argument. They say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you may be accidentally ensnaring a small number that have

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<v Speaker 3>recently become naturalized. Of course, we have safeguards in place

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that that doesn't happen. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if one were a skeptic, they could say, perhaps that

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<v Speaker 3>the same administration that has left our southern border completely

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<v Speaker 3>unguarded and has resulted in a really national embarrassment and disaster,

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<v Speaker 3>this invasion that's occurring on our southern border, one might

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<v Speaker 3>draw the conclusion that folks in the Biden Harris administration

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<v Speaker 3>want those people to vote. You know, that's a wild thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's entirely possible. Idea, We're not going to allow

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<v Speaker 3>that to happen in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>And so at this point you're not been sued yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're looking over your shoulder to find some reason

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<v Speaker 2>to sue you.

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<v Speaker 1>But is the statement accurate?

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<v Speaker 2>If I would say this, non citizens in America cannot

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<v Speaker 2>legally vote, is that accurate?

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<v Speaker 3>That's correct, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>So why wouldn't the federal government join with you and

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<v Speaker 2>making sure your data who can vote is shared with

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<v Speaker 2>you so that you get them off get them off

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<v Speaker 2>their roles.

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<v Speaker 1>Why doesn't that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Some things defy logic, Willy. I mean, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been working to try to get access to better

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<v Speaker 3>data from the federal government, and they have blocked me

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<v Speaker 3>at every turn. For months now. I've been asking them

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<v Speaker 3>for access to the other three databases. Typical federal government.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't just have one database for non citizens, It's

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<v Speaker 3>spread across four. They've only given me access to one

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<v Speaker 3>of those databases, which is of course therefore incomplete. When

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<v Speaker 3>I've been asking for months and months, they have stonewalled

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<v Speaker 3>and ignored us. When we finally got our congressional delegation involved,

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<v Speaker 3>my friend, Congressman Jim Jordan got involved and we were

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<v Speaker 3>able to finally rattle their cage enough that they answered

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<v Speaker 3>us and they said no, we will not let you

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<v Speaker 3>access these databases. And so I had no choice but

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<v Speaker 3>to file a lawsuit against DHS. That's what we did

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<v Speaker 3>last week to get them to cough up this data

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<v Speaker 3>which federal law says they must provide us.

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<v Speaker 2>And they want to slow roll this until maybe Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>of next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Well one with guess. But here's the thing. This is

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<v Speaker 3>important regardless of whether we get the access to this

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<v Speaker 3>before or after this election, because after the election, we

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<v Speaker 3>go into enforcement mode and we want to look at

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<v Speaker 3>the voter rules and if somebody has attempted to cast

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<v Speaker 3>a ballot on behalf of a deceased Ohio and we

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<v Speaker 3>want to make sure they face justice for it. If

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<v Speaker 3>somebody's attempted to vote in Ohio and in another state,

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<v Speaker 3>we want to catch them. And if a non citizen

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<v Speaker 3>has in fact attempted to or even cast a ballot

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<v Speaker 3>in Ohio, we need to detect that so we can

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<v Speaker 3>turn that over to county prosecutors and to the Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>Attorney General. Because when a law is not enforced, Lily,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not a law, it's suggestion. And we will make

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<v Speaker 3>sure even if it's small numbers that people face justice

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<v Speaker 3>for those kinds of elections crimes.

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<v Speaker 2>And when this issue arises, I hear Mary Garland or

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<v Speaker 2>hear Kamala Harris talk about voter intimidation, that by you

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<v Speaker 2>enforcing the law, you're intimidating voters. Can you respond to

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<v Speaker 2>the voter intimidation argument.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I tell you who I intend to intimidate. I

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<v Speaker 3>intend to I want to intimidate those who are attempting

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<v Speaker 3>to break our law. And so if you are a

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<v Speaker 3>non citizen and you're thinking about trying to cast a vote,

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to be intimidated. If you are somebody

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<v Speaker 3>who is planning to cast a ballot on or try

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<v Speaker 3>to cast a ballot on behalf of a deceased person,

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to be intimidated. And the Left and

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<v Speaker 3>all of their handwringing about this is well, it's really nonsense.

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<v Speaker 3>Ohioan's no. Americans know that it's easy to vote. My

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<v Speaker 3>job is to also make sure that it's hard to cheat.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's move on quickly to State Issue one. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>briefly describe to the American people what is State Issue

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<v Speaker 2>one and what.

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<v Speaker 1>It does it say and what doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It say yes. So. Issue one is a thirteen thousand

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<v Speaker 3>word constitutional amendment that is being paid for by out

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<v Speaker 3>of state special interests to the tune of over thirty

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars. Eighty five percent of those dollars come from Washington,

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<v Speaker 3>New York, California. And we even believe that six million

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<v Speaker 3>of those dollars have come from a Swiss billionaire, literally,

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<v Speaker 3>a guy from Switzerland that wants to tell us how

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<v Speaker 3>our district line should be drawn. This thing, beyond being complex,

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<v Speaker 3>takes away the power from the voters. It puts the

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<v Speaker 3>power into the hand of fifteen unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats. And

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<v Speaker 3>here's the kicker willing. You cannot fire these people. You

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<v Speaker 3>cannot remove them from their job, even for malfeasance, for

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<v Speaker 3>committing a crime. Nothing can take their ability to draw

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<v Speaker 3>these lines away from them once they're appointed to it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're not even allowed to talk to them. I

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<v Speaker 3>think this is a clear First Amendment violation. But the

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<v Speaker 3>amendment literally says that if you discuss redistricting with one

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<v Speaker 3>of these members of the redistricting Commission, that you violated

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<v Speaker 3>the Law's crazy. So if you sit next to them

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<v Speaker 3>in church and you have a comment to make you're

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<v Speaker 3>not allowed to talk to them about the work that

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<v Speaker 3>they do, that they're being paid for to do by

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<v Speaker 3>the taxpayers. What they're really required to do under Issue

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<v Speaker 3>one is to jerrymander the state to draw a certain

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<v Speaker 3>number of democratic districts that they preconceive as their formula.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is really bad news for Ohio, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's why we've been very clear about this. And that's why,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, also we drafted very honest, very blunt,

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<v Speaker 3>but very honest language that's on the ballot. It has

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<v Speaker 3>been approved as truthful by the Ohio Supreme Court. And

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<v Speaker 3>so if you read the few hundred words on your

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<v Speaker 3>ballots that describe what this thing does, I think you'll

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<v Speaker 3>arrive at the same conclusion I have.

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<v Speaker 2>All the polling indicates is going to be a yes

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<v Speaker 2>vote because citizens respond, the term jerry mandering is used.

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<v Speaker 2>The citizens respond, but stated briefly. They're seven members of

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<v Speaker 2>the Reapportionment Board. They are the governor, the Secretary State,

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<v Speaker 2>and the auditor, and two from the House, two from

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<v Speaker 2>the Senate that we as lowly citizens actually vote for.

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<v Speaker 2>We decide who's on the Reapporcement poard. This amendment would say,

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<v Speaker 2>no more voting. You don't get to vote anymore. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be retired appellate judges like my wife,

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<v Speaker 2>for example. If you won't take it, but nonetheless retired

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<v Speaker 2>to pellate judges in Ohio will appoint five Republicans, five Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>They then appoint five independence fifteen get together that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't vote for, and they will draw. You can't fire,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't fire them. You can't fire, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>let them go.

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<v Speaker 3>Did Trump as a smart executive, has said in the

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<v Speaker 3>past that if you can't fire somebody, they don't actually

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<v Speaker 3>work for you. And that's the problem with these unelected,

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<v Speaker 3>unaccountable bureaucrats. You cannot bounce them from their jobs, no

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<v Speaker 3>matter how bad of a job they do. If you

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<v Speaker 3>don't like the way the governor and the auditor and

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<v Speaker 3>I and the two members of the House and the

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<v Speaker 3>two members of send, if you don't like the way

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<v Speaker 3>we draw district lines, you can fire us. And guess what,

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<v Speaker 3>Ohioans didn't do that In twenty twenty one, we drew

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<v Speaker 3>new district lines and I got more votes than any

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<v Speaker 3>secretary's has ever gotten in history. So people must like

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<v Speaker 3>the work that we do in totality and decided to

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<v Speaker 3>keep us around.

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<v Speaker 1>But at least we vote.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I love you politically, that's great. But if

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Bender is a left winger from Green Township and

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<v Speaker 2>he says, I've had it with Frank LeRose, I've had

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<v Speaker 2>it with Mike Dwaine. I want those guys gone. They

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<v Speaker 2>got the opportunity to say I'm voting against that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>If this thing passes, the voting is done, democracy dies

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<v Speaker 2>in darkness and because of Swiss billionaires and a slick

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<v Speaker 2>commercial run by a defroct Supreme Court justice named Ren O'Connor,

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<v Speaker 2>who's as an effective ad but it's wrong. But nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 2>if citizens are led to believe that democracy is alive

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<v Speaker 2>by not voting, you can vote yes on Issue one

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<v Speaker 2>and the voting is done, and then it becomes it's

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<v Speaker 2>in the constitution and away we go and God help

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<v Speaker 2>us all. Well, Frank, we got a run. But thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for calling in today this afternoon, and we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But I often say we get the government we deserve,

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<v Speaker 2>and at times that concerns me greatly.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Vote no in state Issue one because if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to vote in the future for the members of this board.

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<v Speaker 1>Vote no.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't want to vote anymore, vote yes. Democracy

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<v Speaker 2>will live in darkness. But Frank la Russ, once again,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we'll check in next week as things are hot and heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank.

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<v Speaker 3>You Frank, Thank you, sir. God bless and.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless America.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's continue with more, very simple six million dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>TV ads to convince Ohio ones it is time to

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<v Speaker 2>quit voting.

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<v Speaker 1>What and maybe it's working. I hope not. Let's continue.

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