WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:01.639 Oh that's are. 2 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:47.159 Hello and welcome to the show. 3 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:51.320 This is the Cult of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan, 4 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:55.119 I'm Jagram. Tonight is the Cult member live show tonight. 5 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:59.960 Baby, go ahead, let's do this live thing, y'all. Fuck 6 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:00.759 you will do it live. 7 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:03.640 Yes, yes, it's called it's called for. I would say 8 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:08.760 that we had a great conversation earlier with Stellium seven man. 9 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:12.439 That guy, holy shit, we've had him on several times before. 10 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:13.359 He was the one. 11 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:15.719 He was one of the guys that was saying, uh 12 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:21.239 that a lot of older rocks are like, I don't know, 13 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:23.640 giant animal parts or something. 14 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:26.719 No, he thinks they're human hearts from back in the 15 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:29.400 day that like got petrified. And my question has always 16 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:32.799 been for why just the heart, Like if it's a 17 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:36.519 if it's enough to cook and petrify a muscle grouping 18 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.280 or an organ or something, why just the hearts? 19 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:43.760 But like Jacob, don't believe shit, so you know, you're 20 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:46.159 you're more of a tougher cookie to crack, which I 21 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:48.799 get it. I'm actually happy that we have that over here, 22 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:51.319 like because I'm the one I believe everything, you know, 23 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:53.920 Like I'm just like, oh shit, all right, I can 24 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:56.879 see it. I can see it, you know, but you 25 00:01:57.040 --> 00:01:59.159 need you know. I'm the head in the clouds, hear 26 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:00.519 the feet on the ground. That's that's what this show 27 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:01.000 is all about. 28 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:03.840 Baby, this is our dichotomy. But with that being said, 29 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:07.200 our boy from Stelliam seven, what I didn't know about 30 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:11.800 him is that he is the first confirmed arrest and 31 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:16.479 imprisonment ever done for hacking computer hacking. 32 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:20.599 Yeah, the Blue what Mike Wilgerson back in the uh 33 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:23.159 what was it in the eighties, I believe maybe early 34 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:27.120 nineties something like that. Yeah, he Yeah, that show is 35 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:28.919 going to be coming out, dude, And it's actually a 36 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:32.199 weird synchronicity. That show is actually coming out on Friday, 37 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:38.400 and that will be the fortieth anniversary since he got arrested. 38 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:41.520 I mean, for real, he did nothing with that for 39 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:43.879 the record, Like he didn't go in and defraud a 40 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:47.719 major corporation or steal from a bank. He basically was 41 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:50.159 just fucking around and the fact that he was able 42 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:53.560 to successfully hack into a couple of big servers was 43 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:56.560 enough to get him imprisoned. But like, he didn't do 44 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:59.159 anything the farious and he even showed everything. It's like, yo, 45 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:01.479 I I was just doing this and this, and then 46 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:03.800 even the media was like this kid went on a 47 00:03:03.919 --> 00:03:08.439 digital joy ride and it's like and hurt. Who whom 48 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:11.759 was the afflicted party from his antics? Not one? 49 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:15.360 But yeah, it's funny because in the uh, in the 50 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:19.080 newspaper it kept on saying, cracker jack hack, you know, 51 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:21.840 just just got just got cracked or something like that. 52 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.520 And it was like, man, newspapers back in the day 53 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:25.439 really were different. 54 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:29.000 Fucking nineteen years old and you're just kind of dicking 55 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:31.879 off with your computer, your old doss system and shit, 56 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:34.080 and next thing you know, you're getting a knock on 57 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:36.400 the door saying, you know, you've been served and you're 58 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:40.680 getting sentenced to time because you you were just dicking off. 59 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:42.879 Like it wasn't It wasn't even like you could see 60 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.479 digital like printouts. There wasn't even pictures on the internet 61 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:49.439 at this time. You ever seen Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Yeah, 62 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:52.479 of course, you remember the very beginning of the movie 63 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:55.159 where he's on his computer and he changed his absentee 64 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:57.639 record from like nine to like two. 65 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:01.879 Yeah, yeah, yeah that. It was fucking that, Yeah, he did. 66 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:03.599 He wasn't trying to gain anything out of it. It 67 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:05.080 was just a see if I can. 68 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:09.240 Yeah, but yeah, very conversation. 69 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:12.639 That guy is a very interesting man like he I 70 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:15.280 believe he lives in Spain and he travels all over 71 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:17.959 Europe and South America and stuff like that. At all 72 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:21.199 these like conspiracy conferences and stuff, I'm like, dude, what 73 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:23.279 are we doing with our life? We should be doing 74 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:26.040 shit like that. But kids, you know, yeah. 75 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:29.240 I was a kids and responsibilities and shit. Listen, when 76 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:31.959 I get to be his age, hopefully I would just 77 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:35.000 be in that manner, just going wherever the wind takes me. 78 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:37.160 But as of now, I got I got duties. 79 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:41.040 Well, speaking of duties, man, I'm looking around and I 80 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:45.480 don't see Timothy, unfortunately, because that was gonna be a 81 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:49.720 fun conversation, okauz we ad we didn't get into a 82 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:51.360 lot of the ship that was going on in the 83 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:52.240 chat Timothy. 84 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:55.199 Last week, where are you at, buddy? It's Halloween month, baby, 85 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:59.839 let's get let's get spooky. Okay, Yeah, apparently last week 86 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:02.680 in the chat, we didn't even see it. I like 87 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:07.000 went back and looked for it. But somebody out of nowhere, 88 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:09.800 no one asked for this, No why I was talking 89 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:13.920 about this, whatsoever? Somebody decided I think slavery is a 90 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:17.319 good thing. Changed my mind. And at first it was like, Okay, 91 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:21.319 perhaps somebody's just kind of kicking the hornet's nest just 92 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:24.480 for the lulls, you know, being not just then now 93 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:28.720 right right, just you know, maybe this person's doing it 94 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:32.519 to be an asshole and like it's it's mint in jest. 95 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:36.920 But boy, and that the chat read very differently. Apparently 96 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:40.639 this was this was not the way, and uh, you know, hey, 97 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:43.759 maybe maybe that's why he's not here. Maybe it's a 98 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:47.759 work scheduled thing. Maybe the cult members kind of scared 99 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:50.519 him away. I don't know. I just saw the chat 100 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:54.000 saying where's Pickle Yo. We do not know Jamie has 101 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:57.319 fallen off the grid and and we don't know what 102 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.480 the fuck is up with him. Something doesn't necessarily had 103 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:01.680 to have happened to him. 104 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:04.000 Maybe he just moved on. Maybe he's got some shit 105 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:06.600 going on his life. I mean, you know, I mean 106 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:11.079 people go through shit, and not even suggesting that he's 107 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.120 actually even going through something. Maybe he just found like 108 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:15.480 a I don't know, maybe a better podcast to listen 109 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:16.519 to or something I don't know. 110 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:19.199 Or I mean, maybe he's got a new work schedule 111 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:21.759 there he's working Tuesday nights. Like I don't know, but 112 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:26.240 to our understanding, nothing negative has happened to him. But yeah, 113 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:27.759 he hasn't been on the live in a few weeks. 114 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:31.439 Jamie Jameo, I know you're listening, bro, come back to 115 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:35.399 the cult man Rick it is. Yeah. 116 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:37.759 But getting over to the chat, I yeah, it's it's 117 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:39.120 starting to get a little wild in the chat, so 118 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:41.279 we got to catch up to it. Rose Chaos said, Yo, 119 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:42.680 fam whatever. 120 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:46.439 Rose, what up? Rose? You're here every Tuesday. I love it. 121 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:48.959 Most of you guys are, and that's why it turns 122 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:51.759 into like, that's why it's such a beautiful like family 123 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:54.639 that we've created over here, because it's like a tradition. 124 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:57.399 Everybody in the know kind of meets up at the 125 00:06:57.439 --> 00:06:59.600 same place at the same day on the same time. 126 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:00.360 It's all awesome. 127 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:03.959 Yeah, dude. I also, uh just went back and caught 128 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:06.720 up on the chat. I let the Patreon chat get 129 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:08.480 away from me for a couple of days. My apologies. 130 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:10.160 I'll know, I don't really check it over the weekends, 131 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:13.199 but uh, I didn't answer anything yesterday I should have, 132 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:15.439 so I went back and answered everything this evening. Bro. 133 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:19.600 I think we now confirmed have our youngest cult member, Homeboy, 134 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:23.920 just turned nineteen and he lives in England. Oh, I 135 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:25.920 was expecting a little younger. How old a spirit animal? 136 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:29.040 What are you like? Twenty one? Twenty two? What old 137 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:29.279 is he? 138 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:31.079 I turned twenty seven in June? 139 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.079 Bubble, d you look like a child. 140 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:35.439 I'm sure you still get You're gonna get carted until 141 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:36.519 you turn sixty. 142 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:37.920 Probably, dude, I. 143 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:40.160 Shoot you not. 144 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:44.279 I shaved off and I look like I'm in like 145 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:49.560 a a about a hit nineteen. It's not me joking that. 146 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:52.680 That's me having a goat. I get id'd even by 147 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:56.519 my uncle, who everything. He's the sheriff, he's a Sam 148 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:58.720 needs an idea, But motherfucker. 149 00:07:59.160 --> 00:07:59.319 Yeah. 150 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.399 Well, I mean it's not necessarily a bad thing, you know. 151 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:05.680 It just means you're gonna age slower gracefully. Yeah, each 152 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:08.279 I find wine, but that's a good thing. But you know, Sam, 153 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:09.560 he's got them Asian jeans. 154 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:13.319 But because our program is not meant for children, right, 155 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:15.480 and I don't know, we may have a thirteen year 156 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:18.040 old cult member out there. I fucking hope not. All right, 157 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.319 if you're that young listening to us, we need to 158 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:21.120 talk to your parents. 159 00:08:21.319 --> 00:08:26.800 But no, look, there is no proper age to open 160 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:27.879 up that third eye, sir. 161 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:30.839 Some of the things we talk about are definitely not 162 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:33.320 for uh, for the youths. 163 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:36.720 I mean, so that's probably not a good idea. 164 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:37.240 You know. 165 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:41.440 You know, apparently Wu Tang Clan was for the children, 166 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:45.360 but the cult conspiracy we're for the adults. That that 167 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:49.000 should go without saying. But as of this moment, our 168 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:53.360 youngest confirmed cult member nineteen years old from I think 169 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:56.799 he said, Lincolnshire, England. So it's pretty cool to hear 170 00:08:56.879 --> 00:08:59.000 from like people from across the pond and I see 171 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:02.200 you Joe from the other pond across that way, which 172 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:04.080 this is cool. I like this. I like how our 173 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:06.840 community is growing and including so many different people from 174 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:09.240 so many different walks of life. The shit's badass. Yeah, 175 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:11.399 don't believe nothing. You had your hand up. 176 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:14.000 I don't know if you're telling me to believe everything 177 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:15.000 with that double negative. 178 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:17.039 Not sure. 179 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.120 I will say that. My one child is like tries 180 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.200 constantly to listen to this every Tuesday, is like lurking, 181 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:31.639 and I'm like, no, this isn't that for you all? Yeah, 182 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:34.279 I'm like no, no, no, you're eleven, go away. 183 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:36.840 I don't even let my own kids listen to this. 184 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:39.480 And even so, my oldest he asked me if he 185 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:41.799 could listen to my Cajun Nights show that I shoot 186 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:43.759 every Wednesday night. Go check it out on Patreon, you know. 187 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:47.559 But I was like so at first, Yeah, I don't 188 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:50.559 have a problem with it. The first episode that he 189 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:53.679 started watching, within five minutes, we're talking about child sex 190 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:57.879 trafficking rings, and it's like, never fucking mind, new new. Now, 191 00:09:57.919 --> 00:09:59.639 I don't need him to be unaware of the world 192 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:02.039 he's living in. Yes, but at the same time, there's 193 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:05.440 a way to present some very negative concepts to your 194 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.200 child on a podcast as you're you know, talking about 195 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:11.159 it in this manner is not the way that I 196 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:14.120 personally want to tell my kids about the evil of 197 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:17.799 this world. So it's like, yeah, yeah, never mind, Okay, Nope, 198 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:19.200 probably not a good idea. 199 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:23.480 Yeah, my nieces and nephew and my daughter, they every 200 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:25.960 time I go over there, well not my daughter, but 201 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:28.759 everybody over there on my sister's side, every time I 202 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.159 go over there, open up that third eye, they just 203 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:31.799 like scream it. 204 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:35.759 It's hilarious. Oh dude. It depends on which group of 205 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:39.000 my family members I'm around. Some of them don't understand 206 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:42.159 like the podcasting game or how long we've been doing this. 207 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:44.080 So some of them that are kind of out of 208 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:46.519 the loop on it, like, so, uh, how's your little 209 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.279 podcast going? And I'm like, my little podcast is uh 210 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.000 becoming my career and it's doing very well. And then 211 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.440 other family members are like super into it and they're like, bro, 212 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:58.799 tell me everything. What's the latest. What have you been 213 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:01.480 looking into what? I'm like, Bro, it's Tuesday and by 214 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:03.639 now I've looked into five different things and it's not 215 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:06.440 even lunchtime yet, Like it's very difficult for me to 216 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:08.679 answer that question, man. And then next thing you know, 217 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:11.000 I'm at a Thanksgiving gathering and somebody asked me what 218 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:13.519 adrenochrome is and I'm like, fux see I did. I 219 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:15.840 don't want to do this at a family get together. 220 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:17.600 But now I'll be that kid, not. 221 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:20.200 That's my job. 222 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:23.039 I am that uncle sitting across the table at the 223 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:27.440 Thanksgiving gathering. That's just ruining it for everybody else. They 224 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.679 know better than to ask me questions. I'll say that much. 225 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:34.480 Oh yeah, dude, So Joe said, good afternoon, Raven Lee said, 226 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:37.919 hey everyone, Spirit Animals said about to win a one 227 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:40.559 v two me versus my brother and his friend. It's 228 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:42.480 nine to nothing on Rocket League. It's been a minute 229 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:43.759 since I played in Rocket League. 230 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:46.480 Class Rocket League is That's that's what's up. 231 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:49.559 I just discourage whenever I see everybody flying, I'm like, 232 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:50.600 I can't do that. 233 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:53.080 I mean, you just set the game parameters to where 234 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:56.320 there's no rockets. It's more fun with them. But I 235 00:11:56.320 --> 00:11:58.120 will say that you can't keep it basic if you 236 00:11:58.159 --> 00:11:59.679 want to go that way. It's like it is the 237 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:02.960 new version of uh one v one in Rust. You 238 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:03.480 remember that. 239 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:06.759 It reminds me kind of like of twisted Metal. 240 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:10.240 Actually, okay, okay, but it's just like, you know, if 241 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:11.840 you have a disagreement with your buddy, it's like, you 242 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:14.879 know what, meet me and Rust, motherfucker. And it was 243 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:17.440 this one map that was like way too small to 244 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.159 have any kind of real like you know, team death 245 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:21.960 match that was worth the fuck, But one v one 246 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:25.720 on Rust that's where we draw the line on whose 247 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:29.279 man and whose child? In this conversation, Rocket League is 248 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:31.200 becoming that and I'm fucking here for it. 249 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:34.200 Yeah, it's pop culture now, spirit Adam, We'll go ahead. 250 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:39.200 Sir, So I'm not that great at as. I only 251 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:42.440 have like five hundred and seventy hours in the game. 252 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:43.679 What the fuck? 253 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:47.799 Yeah, but that's over the spen of like two years. 254 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:50.519 So I'm not that great at it. Well, I'm good 255 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:54.960 enough where I can fuck up my buddy, who who's 256 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:59.000 my brother? He no, lies it a lot. He's that 257 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:02.600 like diamond and we do threes. He got me doing 258 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:07.600 a tournament last night. I was, yeah, I was doing 259 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:11.240 But I'm a I'm definitely a solos player. 260 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:12.200 It's fun. 261 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:15.480 Get me, Yeah, it's fun. 262 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:19.360 But my son fucking trounces me in anything video game, 263 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:22.159 which is cool in one sense, but another sense. I 264 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:24.600 just introduced him to Double oh seven Golden Eye and 265 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:26.360 he's like, wait, well, how do you do this? And 266 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:30.159 it's like, ah, yes, let me teach you the old ways. 267 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:35.559 Dude, drop the mind in the hate stat Yeah, I 268 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:38.279 actually still have that. I still have my sixty four, 269 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:42.720 my grandmother's and all uh I had. I had the 270 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:47.600 Donkey Kong Island three D and Don Kong went around 271 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:49.639 with a banana gun. 272 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.519 Oh yeah, bringing it all the way. They just don't 273 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:53.679 make games like they used to. 274 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:56.240 They don't have the passion. 275 00:13:57.120 --> 00:13:59.399 Right, we'll see e A just got bought out by 276 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:01.360 the Saudis, so it's very possible that we're going to 277 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:04.279 see some unhinged video games come out. So maybe we can. 278 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:07.000 Get another version of Madden since we've had the same 279 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.799 fucking one for twenty years. You know, it's like the iPhone. 280 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:11.600 They just don't know how to make it better anymore. 281 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:14.279 Let's just bring back NFL Blitz and quit playing with 282 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:15.639 the dumb shit Due Union. 283 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:23.440 Yeah with that, the Big d said that too, Pop 284 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:24.639 goes the weasel said, what's up. 285 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:30.080 Beautiful people, Tony coming in with the smoke? I love it, dude. 286 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:32.799 Good evening, nephelim are still fake. 287 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.080 Send your hate to me, not to Jonathan ah shit 288 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:38.639 coming from He's. 289 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:41.720 Here for all the smoke. How dare you? You didn't 290 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:45.200 even read the Bible, Tony. You're not even a believer, Tony. 291 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:48.320 You don't deserve to have an opinion on this, Tony. 292 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:52.799 That's all. Tony might be the one of the most 293 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:56.480 stirring of the pot Christians I've ever met in my life. Like, 294 00:14:57.440 --> 00:14:59.440 and I'm not saying that in a demeaning way. Everybody's 295 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:01.559 inside of their onions and you know, I respect Tony's 296 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:04.399 opinion immensely, but like, yeah, most of the Book of 297 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:07.200 Genesis is probably just bullshit, and it's like break whoa 298 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:08.200 how bro? 299 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:08.440 What? 300 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:15.120 But here's a white hat, right, Yes, Tony is here 301 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:18.120 just collecting the smoke like it's fucking pokemon. I swear 302 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:21.279 to God, dude, I love it. Uh, Joelle, what to 303 00:15:21.360 --> 00:15:23.559 do my dude, dude? 304 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:25.639 I just want to say about that about last week 305 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:30.039 the guy that came on here and straight up started saying, 306 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:31.919 you have no right to talk about the Bible because 307 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.559 you haven't read it. He was so strong and firm 308 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:38.080 in his beliefs, and he was really strong and firmanent 309 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:41.120 his beliefs about the slavery too, apparently, but look how 310 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:43.080 bad fast he backtracked about that. 311 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:45.480 So how can you take his beliefs. 312 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:45.960 On his faith? 313 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:49.600 So how can we take that? I think's thelation? 314 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:53.039 If he within an hour he was like, no, never mind, 315 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:55.080 I changed my mind on slavery. Won't Maybe we can 316 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:56.559 lean his mind, but the butt. 317 00:15:57.320 --> 00:16:01.639 But even still, the indentered servitude conversation, like look, okay, yes, 318 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:04.960 there is a clear difference between slavery and indentured servants, 319 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:08.840 but keeping even Biblically speaking, you could beat the shit 320 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:12.159 out of your indentured servants and rape them and all 321 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:14.399 of the things. They were your slave, but it had 322 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:17.840 an end date. That was the only fucking difference. And then, oh, 323 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:20.480 you couldn't hit them more than forty times because that 324 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:23.000 was reserved only for animals. You know, that's facts. But 325 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:24.879 you could beat the fuck out of them thirty nine 326 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:28.039 times for an offense, and then thirty nine more times 327 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:31.600 for a separate offense, and thirty times more. It didn't 328 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:35.799 make it that much of a difference. It was like anyway, it's. 329 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:38.240 You know what I'm saying, Like I'm not I'm not 330 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:41.240 saying anything about like people are religious that are religious 331 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:46.080 in general. I'm just saying him, see, hey, I'm so 332 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:49.080 offended that you is what I believe in, and you 333 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:51.200 shoul gonna say this about what I believe in. But 334 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:53.639 then once he was serious about slavery thing, and then 335 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:56.879 I'll look at her backtrack, he was like, nevermind, guy, sorry, 336 00:16:56.960 --> 00:16:58.600 I believe in slavery anymore. 337 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:03.159 Like all right, yeah, listen, y'all, that's not how Christians 338 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:06.039 are supposed to take the book. I feel like I 339 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:10.359 shouldn't have to say that, but fucking hell. Yeah. 340 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:13.839 Yeah, everybody's cool with slavery until they are one, and 341 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:14.759 then they're against it. 342 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:15.240 You know. 343 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:17.720 It's one of those things. 344 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:20.359 I'm for the record, I'm a Christian who's not cool 345 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:22.480 with slavery, and I've never been one. I just were 346 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:24.400 all clear on the same page here. I don't think 347 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:26.880 we need to like I didn't actually think we needed 348 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:29.599 to have that conversation in twenty twenty five, but for 349 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:32.759 fuck's sake, here we are. But the internet, we're all clear. 350 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:37.160 Yeah, one ring to rule them all what to. 351 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:41.079 Do, just just so weird clear. He's just like I 352 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:45.119 actually screenshoted it. He says that biblical time, slavery was 353 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:48.359 a good thing and that going into slavery to buy 354 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:50.839 a house he would do for his family at any point. 355 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:54.519 He also goes on to talk about how you know slavery, 356 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:58.880 the slaves shouldn't be murdered, but if the slave steals 357 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:02.799 from their master, including digital servitudes, then they should have 358 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:07.480 their hands cut off. Like he tripled tripled down on. 359 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:12.319 As I explained to him what it meant, he was like, No, 360 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:15.839 slavery is a good thing. So like good old Timothay 361 00:18:16.359 --> 00:18:18.799 when you're ready to have that fight. I'm here for 362 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:20.440 you in every capacity. 363 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:23.200 Oh my god, bringing the receipts, you know. 364 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:25.839 And I I mean, look, I don't like to talk 365 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:28.880 shit about behind people's back or anything like that. 366 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:30.559 But it was kind of warranted. 367 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.440 We we forgot to mention I don't want to say 368 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:35.079 we forgot to mention it. I didn't know that that 369 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:38.039 was going on, so that's why we decided to just 370 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:38.759 glaze over it. 371 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:39.480 And that was on me. 372 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:43.160 I mean, he deserved all the smoke. But he's he's 373 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:44.960 a young guy. What is he twenty four or something 374 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:49.359 like that. I don't know anymore. I thought Samuel was thirteen. 375 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:49.400 So. 376 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:55.079 No, I don't know how what he was. And again, Timothy, 377 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:57.880 I'm sure you're gonna be listening to this tomorrow or whenever. 378 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:00.000 You might even jump in this later on this evening. 379 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:05.000 I don't know. Boot I'm hoping that now, because you 380 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:07.039 tripled the fuck down, I'm hoping that you've seen the 381 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:09.079 error of your ways and in the past week you've 382 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:11.279 done a fair amount of research and soul searching, and 383 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:14.720 that you will come back with a whole different outlook 384 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:19.359 and perspective. But yeah, you brought that one onto yourself, 385 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:20.880 big dog. I don't know what to tell you. 386 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:24.480 He probably can't cancel his Patreon membership already. 387 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:27.240 Not no, he still has it, I know that much. 388 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:33.079 But like you gotta understand that's Can you imagine somebody 389 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:35.920 saying that, like you know, Lynch mobs were actually a 390 00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:38.960 really good thing that protected the nbel himself. Change my mind. 391 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:43.000 It's like whoa, whoa, All right, so you're just you're 392 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:47.200 you're wanting heat, you're wanting smoke, and then immediately after 393 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:49.200 that be like, okay, maybe they weren't good, but Jim 394 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:53.400 Crow laws were cool, but anyway, moving on, It's like no, no, no, no, no, motherfucker, no, 395 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:56.480 you brought this on yourself. Don't get mad when the 396 00:19:56.519 --> 00:19:57.759 world comes down on you. 397 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:01.559 But ye, all right, Dougie my blunkin sir, what it do? 398 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:04.480 Man, Jonathan, I got some meat for you. 399 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:06.960 Let's go, baby. You've been attacking. 400 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:10.119 Santa Claus on the last few episodes. You called him fat, 401 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:13.279 he said he didn't exist, well, he eats his cookies. 402 00:20:13.559 --> 00:20:15.559 This is terrible, I believe in Santa. 403 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:19.079 I'm sorry to break it to you, brother, but no, 404 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:23.359 sh all I was trying to say is that he's like, 405 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:27.880 you know, an eggregre basically right, like a tulpa. 406 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:30.119 And he's real because we believe in him. 407 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:31.279 That's what I'm saying. 408 00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:34.200 I think that everybody that believes in something makes it real. 409 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:36.799 I'm not even trying to diminish it. That was That's 410 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:39.640 kind of my magical mind how it goes about it. 411 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:42.559 You're getting cold for Christmas. You were pretty rude on him, 412 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:45.359 and you attacked I keep pulling asleep on these things 413 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.359 because of the time difference. You attacked Jacob on that 414 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:52.720 uh Noah's Ark episode. Oh yeah, he gotta protect my man. 415 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:54.480 I'm glad you apologized. 416 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:57.000 Yeah, you know what that. I didn't mean that apology. 417 00:20:57.039 --> 00:20:58.000 I take it all the way back. 418 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:02.559 Oh no, but we believed it though, Jonathan, we believed it. 419 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:06.880 Do you believe so it happened exactly? It's true to 420 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:07.680 your heart, sir. 421 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:14.160 You have me cracking up so bad about like the 422 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:18.359 mama dog eating the down syndrome pups. All I kept 423 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:22.559 thinking about was if someone had incest and you know, 424 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:24.680 like with their sister, would the sister have to eat 425 00:21:24.680 --> 00:21:26.359 the down syndrome babies. 426 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:29.880 Probably automatically ones? Oh my goodness. 427 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:32.519 That was a great episode, by the way, Thank you 428 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:33.200 appreciate it. 429 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:37.160 Dude, that ship there. I didn't know that about dogs 430 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:39.519 realistically until a couple of years ago. I was looking 431 00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:42.920 into breeding my dog and my dad, who bred amstaffs, 432 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:45.599 which are like second cousins to pippules. He told me that. 433 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:47.599 He's like, listen, don't get freaked out whenever you come 434 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:50.759 home and find this. Around that time, my neighbor had 435 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:53.559 bred a litter of bully pits, and they came home 436 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:56.680 and there was like three out of the seven were gone, 437 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:58.799 and there was like a couple of rib cages and 438 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:01.200 a leg left, and it was like a whole thing. 439 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:03.519 And I'm like, oh, oh, for real, for real, and 440 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:05.920 like it's like, no, no, dear, We'll even eat their 441 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:08.480 babies if something's fucked up with the kid. Like that's 442 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:10.599 how this goes in the in the world of nature. 443 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:13.319 And I'm like, oh, so humans are the only ones 444 00:22:13.359 --> 00:22:16.599 that like coddle like that? Interesting? Okay, cool. 445 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:19.960 I do have one more thing for Jonathan. If you 446 00:22:20.039 --> 00:22:24.480 notice the round earth in the background, sir, yeah. 447 00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:24.880 Yeah, I'm aware. 448 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:27.279 And as a matter of fact, let me do you 449 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:28.279 one better baby. 450 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:31.799 Oh go fellow globe tart up. Look at that. What 451 00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:34.200 is this the roundness? 452 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:37.880 Yeah, that's the desktop, and I don't know. Oh yeah, 453 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:39.160 it's kind of just a regular one. 454 00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:41.359 But Dougie, you're in Philly, correct. 455 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:44.680 I'm right outside of Philly, like about forty five minutes 456 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:45.559 to an hour away. 457 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:48.119 Fuck yeah, dude, I look forward to meeting you in 458 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:50.839 November when I make my way that way. 459 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:54.720 Yeah, keep in touch absolutely, fuck yeah yeah, and then 460 00:22:54.720 --> 00:23:00.200 we can talk about the round earth. I believe in it. 461 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:04.359 It is, Jacob. It's really sorry, Jath No, that's okay. 462 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:06.519 I mean, hey, I'm okay with people poking fun at me. 463 00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:07.240 That's only right. 464 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:10.079 Poke fun at everybody else's beliefs. 465 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:12.880 It's a fun thing in my head. It's a globe. 466 00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:15.799 No, that thing is flat, dude. That thing is flat. 467 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:18.200 I can see over the curve and. 468 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:24.839 Quite globular. Spirit animal, go ahead, sir. 469 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:27.799 Yeah sorry. 470 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:31.599 I was just thinking about the episode that y'all y'all 471 00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:34.000 did about the Katars and all, and how they were 472 00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:37.240 treated at like lepers, and then how the lepers were 473 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:39.880 really outcast and they really shouldn't have been able to 474 00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:41.319 do anything. 475 00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:44.240 No, it wasn't the Cathars. It was what was it 476 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:45.279 the could go, could go? 477 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:51.240 Yeah, I'm sorry. Anyway, he was about the lepers. Do 478 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:56.599 y'all not remember King Baldwin of Jerusalem, the letter King? 479 00:23:58.319 --> 00:23:59.680 Yeah, he got it. 480 00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:04.079 Yeah, after he had had like one of the most 481 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:07.559 successful victories against Saladin on the ball. 482 00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:10.519 Had to wait until he died. 483 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:14.799 It's mind blowing that a kid that young who had like, yeah, 484 00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:17.279 he had a background and he was brought up to 485 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:19.440 be a military leader in this way. I get that. 486 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:23.960 But even still, Saladin was one of the greatest generals 487 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:28.640 in history, almost bar none. And I mean, yeah, you 488 00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:30.640 can make the argument that Scipio was better, and you 489 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.400 can make the argument that Julius Caesar was better. There 490 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:35.319 have been some that were better. I understand that, but 491 00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:38.839 especially of the Middle Ages, Saladin was s tier as 492 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:42.440 far as generals go. And he was getting fucking dunked 493 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:47.000 on by a twenty one year old leper. It's mind blowing. 494 00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:49.119 But they actually had an immense respect for each other. 495 00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:52.720 So I was imagine if you had like like regular 496 00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:57.359 like today's day and age commentary on those battles that 497 00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:00.279 were going on back in the day, you know, like, oh, 498 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:04.039 here he goes, he is getting t bag for the wind, 499 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:06.200 you know, just like dumb ship like that. 500 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:12.720 We need Logan and Pat mcfe as the commentators. 501 00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:16.720 Yes, that'd be dope, Yes, it would be white boy, wizard. 502 00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:19.279 Girl. 503 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:21.119 What up, little girl. 504 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:23.960 I just wanted to say, how much of trust m 505 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.200 like our poor Jacob here. You know, he loves his 506 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:32.119 Bible on the truths, but in my opinion, that Bible 507 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.480 says for unless we live in a snow bloat and. 508 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:35.039 He's just like. 509 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:38.559 Just trips me out. 510 00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:40.079 I'm still not sold one way. 511 00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:45.680 But why dividing the waters from the waters? 512 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:49.160 How do you explain that, Jacob? Like, just forget the firmament. 513 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:51.440 But what is what are the waters that are dividing 514 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:53.599 from the waters? I mean, are we saying that space 515 00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:56.680 is water up like actual water, not fluid like a gas. 516 00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:01.000 I mean like it's said water. Okay, I understand. And 517 00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:05.759 we're also talking about the dudes writing this in I mean, 518 00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:08.359 arguably Moses was the first person to put pen to 519 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:10.599 paper to write the Torah, which is where that is 520 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:12.680 talked about with the firmament and the separation of the 521 00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:14.319 waters and these things the Book of Genesis. 522 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:17.039 Yeah, but it's not through their interpretation. It's literally messages 523 00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:17.960 from God, is it not. 524 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:22.480 I do believe that yes, no, no, no, I believe 525 00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:24.759 that it's divinely inspired word from the Lord. Yes, I'm 526 00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.160 with you one hundred percent. That being said, I don't 527 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:31.200 believe that that is the all encompassing explanation to everything. Ever, 528 00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:34.920 Like the Bible tells us nothing about the rings around Saturn, 529 00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:37.880 so clearly there's no rings around Saturn. No, no, it's 530 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:39.960 just not important enough to make it to the book. 531 00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:42.880 Well yeah, but I mean we're not really too concerned 532 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:44.720 about Saturn. Talking about Earth here, I think that's a 533 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:46.599 little bit more important than the rings around Saturn. 534 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.839 It is, and I'm making an example. Right. They don't 535 00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:51.839 tell us every single thing there is to know about 536 00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:55.480 every single thing. He's giving us the bare bones answer 537 00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:59.599 of here A plus B equal C. And if you 538 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:01.799 want to go deeper into it, you totally can. But 539 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:05.039 as far as being biblical, there's only certain things that 540 00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:07.000 really need to be spoken of and certain things that 541 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.359 aren't really that important. There is somewhere around two hundred 542 00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:13.160 verses out of like was over seventy thousand. I think 543 00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:14.640 we looked it up once upon a time. It's been 544 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.279 a minute, so forgive me, but there's like two hundred 545 00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:20.960 verses that bring up things that might suggest a flat 546 00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:24.559 earth as opposed to everything else in the book that 547 00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:25.799 tells us how important it is. 548 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.920 It's like less than less than one hundredth that's a 549 00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:31.039 weird way of putting it. Though somebody tells you something 550 00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:33.599 two hundred times, you're just like, man, it's only two 551 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:35.119 hundred times they told. 552 00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:38.079 Us, but it's not direct two hundred times. There's like 553 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.720 something about the angels being scattered to the four corners 554 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.359 of the Earth. Okay, that's a thing, and like see 555 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:46.799 flat Earth confirmed. It's like, so that could not have 556 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:49.680 meant north, southeast, and west. That's not at all. It 557 00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:54.000 was talking about corners on a flat, square surface. That's 558 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:56.279 what we're saying. But then that goes against the flat 559 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:58.799 earth narrative of it being a disc because there's no 560 00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:02.200 corners on a disc, and it's it's not important enough 561 00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.319 for us to really spend that much time in I'm 562 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.200 gonna be. You look at the word for firmament, and 563 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:09.839 it also could be matrix, which is like the embryotic 564 00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:14.680 sack that a baby comes out of. Firmament also means horizon, 565 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:16.920 So the blue water is on the ground and the 566 00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:19.519 blue sky. They put a horizon between the two to 567 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.000 separate them. Yeah, that makes sense to me. So, but 568 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.799 the sky is not water though? Does water not come 569 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:27.160 from the sky, Well, it. 570 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.160 Comes from the clouds, but it's said to be the firmament, 571 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.640 is something there holding back the waters that are above it. 572 00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:39.119 I am personally of the belief that space might be 573 00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:41.599 something more hook in to a fluid. And again, I 574 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:43.440 don't know, dude, I wasn't there when it was rac 575 00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:45.000 It's kind of weird though. 576 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.480 Literally he's getting this message literally, as I mean, if 577 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.920 we're to believe what it says literally from God. So 578 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:54.680 that's where it's like confusing to me because it's like, 579 00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:58.240 is God dumbing it down or was yes? You know, uh, 580 00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.559 what's his name like? To dumbed down? 581 00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:05.079 To really interpret it? I don't know. I believe that 582 00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:08.119 God dumbed things down the same way. Like I've used 583 00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:09.880 this example of a million times. How do you explain 584 00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:11.759 to a six year old where babies come from? You 585 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:14.759 don't lie to them, you tell them truth, You don't 586 00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.799 tell them all of the truth. You dumb it down 587 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:20.160 and you let it be that. Yeah, I don't think 588 00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:21.119 that it takes what it is. 589 00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:24.160 I don't think that it takes a genius to like 590 00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:26.359 accept that there may be stars in the sky. 591 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:29.039 Though, well, it talks about the stars and it says 592 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:31.440 to mark your calendars and seasons by the stars in 593 00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:34.279 the sky. So like that, You're right, that's talked about. 594 00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:36.319 So why was you start with the water though? Like 595 00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:38.440 you could have said anything else. Could have said empty space, 596 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.000 could have said, you know, a vacuum, could have said 597 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.079 you know, oh it's it's nothing this and you're just 598 00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:43.799 inside of a dream. 599 00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:46.960 I don't know, but like just water. That's to the 600 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.559 person writing this in fourteen hundred and fifteen hundred BC, 601 00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:53.920 give or take, how would they have understood that a 602 00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.400 vacuum was not something that they understood at that point. 603 00:29:57.200 --> 00:29:59.799 Neither is the emptiness of space, or even if you 604 00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:01.839 were to say there's only air to a certain point 605 00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:03.559 and then there's no air, that would have not made 606 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.119 any kind of contextual sense to them. Hell, humans only 607 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:09.039 started flying one hundred and fifty years ago, give or take. 608 00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:12.519 Like that's this would have been outside of the realm 609 00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.720 of anything that they would have been able to conceptually 610 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.880 understand by the way, I'm actually in agreeance with you. 611 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.799 I don't think that the Bible tells anybody about what 612 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.559 the shape of the earth is. I think that it's 613 00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:26.720 all symbolic, so I don't think they should take any 614 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:28.039 of it literally. And if I don't think that you 615 00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:30.559 should take any of it literally, then the corners, in 616 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.039 my opinion, probably would mean the four Cardinal Directions, right, Like, 617 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:36.240 that's just that that just makes the most amount of 618 00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:39.039 sense unless they were talking about the four elements, you know, 619 00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:40.559 that's the only thing that I can think of, but 620 00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:44.039 probably the four Directions, Ashton, your thoughts there. 621 00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:49.440 Uh. I was gonna touch on a few other things 622 00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.200 that there is an episode maybe back in December on 623 00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.000 the Live where I explained what I thought the flat 624 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:58.039 Earth was, but I don't want to get into it again. 625 00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:01.279 I was just gonna go back onto the uh, the 626 00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:04.440 Cago episode. So Jonathan, you you know a little bit 627 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.319 of Portuguese, right, A little bit? 628 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:09.039 I I mean, I I know cuss words. 629 00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:13.240 Yeah, So ship is co goo that's right? 630 00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:13.599 Yeah? 631 00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:15.599 Yeah yeah, Actually my ex told me about. 632 00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:17.960 The whole episode. I was just waiting for you guys 633 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:20.680 to make that connection. I was like, damn, because my 634 00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.599 Portuguese coworker used to call my buddy, like one of 635 00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:27.319 my best friends cacal because he just they. 636 00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:31.440 Say that in Spanish too, from what I heard. But yeah, yeah, 637 00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:34.480 like a fun dude, a fun cuss word or a 638 00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:39.440 cuss phrase. I guess is if you would say a 639 00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:43.640 or no is like you scared me or something like that. 640 00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:46.279 Damn it. There's another one that it was on the 641 00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:46.599 tip of. 642 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:54.440 Yeah, there's there's a couple of fun ones out there, 643 00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:57.200 like my son, my son, he's we're trying to raise 644 00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.599 my son to be like by trilingual actually, but uh, 645 00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:05.279 to to say give me a kiss, we say debajil 646 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.480 and that's like I always say dibajel popeye, which is 647 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:11.079 give daddy a kiss, you know. Yeah, but just fun 648 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:11.680 things like that. 649 00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:14.400 Yeah, the could go. Uh, there was a couple of 650 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.480 different variants of their title. Could go is the one 651 00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.400 that you will most likely find when looking for records 652 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.880 and things. But yeah, if you that could have been 653 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:26.640 just a moniker to call them shit by different groups, 654 00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:30.720 that is absolutely a possibility. It's it was an. 655 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:35.079 Interesting episode, but the last few are pretty good. 656 00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:35.319 Uh. 657 00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:37.920 I Like, I was listening to the new one today 658 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.720 and the football analogy. That was like, that was great. 659 00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.000 That was a perfect way to spin that. 660 00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:45.960 You know, appreciate it. Man, that literally came right off 661 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:47.680 the dome. But I was like, all right, how could 662 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:50.119 I put this in a way that I know Jonathan 663 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.839 will be able to figuratively and possibly literally take the 664 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:54.640 ball and run with it. And I was like, you 665 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:56.000 know what this is? I forget what that was in 666 00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:59.079 reference to now. It was in reference to everybody feeling 667 00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.039 like they're the MVP of every single play, but in reality, 668 00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:03.839 they all have to do their part in order to 669 00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:07.160 get the overall job done. That's right. Yeah. 670 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:12.079 One last thing, uh, I was speaking on the last 671 00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:16.000 few episodes. Uh. I listened to two of them today, 672 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:21.079 the UH the other one with the the UH, the 673 00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.880 spirit whatever that guy's name is, like Peter. 674 00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:28.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 675 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:28.519 Uh. 676 00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.880 I think you guys are both right and that uggres 677 00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:35.200 are real where you can manifest your own sort of 678 00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:38.640 thought forms that exist outside of you. But also I 679 00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:42.359 think Jacob's right too, where there's thought forms that exist 680 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.880 outside of you that are demonic or angelic and you 681 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.680 really don't have control over them even if you make 682 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:51.599 communication with them. 683 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:52.359 That's fair. 684 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:55.240 I mean, it's anything's possible. There's no like these things 685 00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.599 almost like require a certain level of faith because you're 686 00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:02.559 talking about the unseen, the untestable, like the there's no 687 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.400 way of getting absolute truth on it outside of just 688 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.159 having a certain belief and letting that belief kind of 689 00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:12.119 shape your perception of reality. You know, at least that's 690 00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.760 what I'm coming to understand, because you ask, you ask somebody. 691 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.719 You know it's a it's a demon, or you know, 692 00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:21.480 it's a ghost, it's a spirit, it's a whatever. Like 693 00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:23.599 everybody has like their own thing. Some people don't even 694 00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:25.400 believe in any of that. They only believe in what's 695 00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:27.840 right in front of them, So to them, it doesn't exist, 696 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.480 you know. So it's weird about how perception does shape reality, 697 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:34.760 which is actually like what I'm most interested in, you know, 698 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.599 Like how crazy is it that, you know, whenever you 699 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:41.360 start looking at something, like really shift your attention towards 700 00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:44.039 something and you start seeing it all the time, or 701 00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:47.039 maybe you know, like I remember whenever, dude, one of 702 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:50.159 my first conspiracies ever was like I dove super hard 703 00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.960 into flat Earth, right and whenever I it like clicked 704 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:54.760 in my mind. After a little while because I was 705 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.320 like super obsessed with it. When it clicked in my mind, 706 00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:01.239 I literally walked outside and I was like, holy shit, 707 00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:05.440 Like my mind clicked into flat Earth mode. So now 708 00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:07.840 I'm looking at all of the Earth as flat and 709 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.920 if nothing else. It's it's a very like crazy paradigm shift. 710 00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:14.960 Like it's you know, just changing your perspective on certain things. 711 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:16.400 Man, it really does. 712 00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:21.039 It's It's quite the thing because most people never change 713 00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:21.679 their perspective. 714 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:22.199 You know. 715 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.800 Most people just believe that they're inherently right about everything 716 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:27.280 that everybody else is wrong and I have the right perception. 717 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.199 It's only when people become open minded that they're able 718 00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.199 to see these paradigm shifts and these perspective shifts, and 719 00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.519 they're able to look at the world in a different way. 720 00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:39.400 You're able to be sympathetic and empathetic towards other people 721 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:42.800 for believing certain things and stuff like that. You know, 722 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.199 It's it's it's fun, dude, It's a it's a trip 723 00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:45.639 full on. 724 00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:49.679 That's totally true, man. I mean, like, I don't follow 725 00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:52.199 any sort of religion or god, even though I grew 726 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:56.440 up Witholicism. I mean, I just know that that thing 727 00:35:56.519 --> 00:36:00.280 is showing me every aspect of I manifested this way 728 00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:03.000 here for these people. I manifested this way here for 729 00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:05.360 these people. But it's all the same damn thing, just 730 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:10.280 manifesting differently for whoever needs it. It's it's I am 731 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:12.280 who I am, and I will be who I will be. 732 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.199 And what that means to me is it manifest as 733 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:20.960 it's required to for what it's required to do for whoever. 734 00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.519 Dude, And you know what's here's a here's a weird synchronicity. 735 00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:29.880 So fun fact, this is episode nine and twenty two. Okay, 736 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:33.000 that number probably doesn't mean much to anybody, except it 737 00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:36.119 is like, followed me for forever, right, like, And I 738 00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.000 was telling Jacob about it one time. Where do we 739 00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:41.000 go on a road trip? Oh, up to South Carolina? 740 00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:44.440 Right and oh yeah, that for the Carolina carnage where 741 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.159 you uh you squired for me at the fucking Boohurt 742 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:48.360 comp That was fucking dope. 743 00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:51.360 Yeah, it was fun. But we left like super early. 744 00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:53.079 It was like, I don't know, was it like late 745 00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:54.519 at night or early in the morning. It was like 746 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:57.280 three in the morning or something like that. And and 747 00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.280 I was telling Jacob, and you know, me and him, 748 00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.840 we were always over at Christy Shop, right, that's when 749 00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:05.599 we were shooting in person all the time. And when 750 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:07.800 he came to pick me up in order for us 751 00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.159 to go on this road trip, I was like, bro, 752 00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:13.159 I'm telling you, I cannot stop fucking seeing this number. 753 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:16.400 It is like haunting me, this nine twenty two. Everywhere 754 00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:18.199 I turn, if I look at a billboard, if I 755 00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:20.639 see a phone number, if I see anything it look 756 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.559 could literally be like a number on a page or 757 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:24.320 something like that. 758 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:27.079 It's just always catching me, you know. 759 00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:29.039 And Jacob's like, I don't know, man, you know he 760 00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:32.239 don't believe in that shit, and legit, I shit you not. 761 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:33.480 We get in the car. 762 00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:35.400 It is three o'clock in the morning, there are no 763 00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:38.360 cars on the road except for one, and that one 764 00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.599 car had a nine to twenty two license plate. Five 765 00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:43.480 minutes after I told him about it, I was like, bro, 766 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:44.880 I'm telling you, I'm not full of shit. 767 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:45.679 I'm seeing it all the time. 768 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:48.079 You're seeing it right here too, Like what a weird 769 00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:49.840 coincidence that was, though, Jacob, wasn't it? 770 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:52.800 Yeah? I remember that. I was thinking, like, Okay, I 771 00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:54.920 don't really know what to tell you. There is a 772 00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:58.639 possibility that is a coincidence, but also you did you 773 00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:00.920 did just tell me that this number follows you? 774 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.599 I mean, fuck told you, like not even five minutes 775 00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.880 before we saw it. So yeah, anyway, shout out two 776 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:07.559 episode nine. 777 00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:11.800 I listened to an older meta episode. I think you 778 00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:17.639 were interviewing Lord Byron with Sean and he had mentioned 779 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:20.920 something about the Quran having nineteen, and I was like, damn, nineteen, 780 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:25.360 that's followed me forever. It's followed me for like ten 781 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:28.159 years at least now, And so I looked into that 782 00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:29.960 a little bit. There's not a whole lot on it, 783 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.400 but I'd be interested to hear more about it. 784 00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:36.639 Yeah, I mean it's fun looking into number symbolism and everything. 785 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:38.840 You know, usually one is the first step. It's the 786 00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:42.239 first thing. It's the thing that is firstborn or whatever. 787 00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.239 You can't create with one. It just represents a single dot, 788 00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.400 right Like, it's not even a line yet. You need 789 00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:49.440 two to create a line and three to create the 790 00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.880 triangle and so on. But like, and then once you 791 00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:56.280 get up to nine, it is it's almost finished, right Like, 792 00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:59.239 if you're looking at numerology, it's all about like one 793 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.159 through ten, and then you know, you can look into 794 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:03.679 master numbers eleven, twenty two, thirty three, whatever. But like 795 00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:07.639 most numerology is just from one to ten, and ten 796 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:11.800 doesn't even necessarily count. Ten represents two things. It represents 797 00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:14.400 the end and the beginning. So anybody out there that's 798 00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:17.400 just looking and trying to find symbolism of certain numbers, 799 00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:18.719 you can see it in it. 800 00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:20.559 The occult is they pay. 801 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.719 Attention to this, And this is why I pay attention 802 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.079 to it, because I'm like, dude, if they're using it, 803 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:27.039 I want to know what to look for, you know. 804 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.000 So nine means like you're almost done, you're almost there 805 00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.400 kind of thing, and one is like you're starting over. 806 00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:35.000 So I don't know if that helps at all. 807 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:38.239 But that's a relatively new thing too. Like the Mayans 808 00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:40.360 they use just base twenty, like we haven't used base 809 00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:44.960 ten forever. Babylonians and Sumerians I think they used base sixty. 810 00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:47.119 It's either one of them. 811 00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:50.920 But yeah, yeah, it's a numbers are weird. 812 00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:56.440 Hours seconds at three hundred and sixty degrees in the circle. 813 00:39:56.760 --> 00:40:00.239 They use base sixty to do that. All right, that's 814 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.599 all I got. I'll leave it be there. 815 00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:05.320 Yeah, all right, did Luke said? 816 00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.039 I just Luke said, I just want to make a 817 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.760 clarification on what Jonathan said. You can come in here 818 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:13.199 and talk shit about us, but do not ever disrespect 819 00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:14.519 a beard unforgivable. 820 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:19.159 I must agree and concur with my boy Lucathan at 821 00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:22.679 this time. The man speaks facts. Good stuff there. 822 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:27.840 Luca spirit Animal posted his that ass weapon. 823 00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:28.760 On Rocket League. Very nice. 824 00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:32.719 Damn to be Alive said, Yo, what up? Fellas to 825 00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:35.880 be Alive? Joel said, bro, I want to hear the 826 00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:39.559 stuff you found found out about Paul. Yeah, I think 827 00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:41.519 we agreed that we're going to do that on Meta 828 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:47.320 because I just my goal is not entirely to like 829 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:50.960 get everybody to hate me. That's like I want. I like, 830 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:52.440 That's genuinely not my goal. 831 00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:55.519 So I should have mentioned this too. As far as 832 00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:58.559 the Polishtian, I think is what they were called, you 833 00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.880 know that it was actually a set right. Yeah, very 834 00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:05.079 similar to the Cathars, who were more of the Gnostic beliefs. 835 00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:05.719 Mm hmm. 836 00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:09.039 Well those were, you know, the followers of Paul. It's 837 00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:12.039 not necessarily the same shit that went in the Bible 838 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:12.559 about Paul. 839 00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.119 No, not at all exactly. They were using a lot 840 00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:18.280 of Gnostic texts that they believed came from Paul, and 841 00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:21.039 so it was a whole other thing which we could 842 00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:23.880 have that conversation one day. I feel like, as at 843 00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:26.000 least at this time, we probably need to take a 844 00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:29.639 hard pause on the quote unquote debunking of biblical things. 845 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.079 But I'm still down to have that conversation on the cult, 846 00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:35.880 and I would like to bring on a pastor and 847 00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:38.360 a biblical scholar to talk about these things, as well 848 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.400 as somebody who is on the opposite side of it, 849 00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:43.719 that is saying that people that claimed that their Christians 850 00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.039 are actually just following Paul, not Jesus. I think that's 851 00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:48.199 a fascinating conversation, I'll tell you what, because I think 852 00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:49.960 that there would be a lot of talking over in 853 00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:50.440 that sense. 854 00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.280 It would be interesting to have somebody on to represent 855 00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:56.360 the validity of why Paul is in the Bible, and 856 00:41:56.440 --> 00:42:00.360 then another separate episode of somebody saying it doesn't belong 857 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:03.119 in the Bible, and then we make them clash, you 858 00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:04.519 know what I'm saying, Like, I want to get like 859 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:06.920 full stories on each side as to why. 860 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.880 Okay, I mean maybe wait, we'll definitely we're gonna put 861 00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:13.239 a pin in that one for now. Uh. You know, 862 00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.519 behay in the future, I could see us doing that 863 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:18.199 episode one hundred percent. Yeah, dude. 864 00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:22.320 But a Cathar episode's coming up, so so that's gonna 865 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:24.360 be a fun one. And I'm not gonna even really 866 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:27.800 get too far into their beliefs and the Gnostic stuff, 867 00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:30.119 and I'm it's basically just gonna be about the Cathar 868 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.480 genocide basically. 869 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:34.840 But you can't separate that from their beliefs because that's 870 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:36.079 why that happened. 871 00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:41.239 Yeah, it's why it happened, but that's not a good 872 00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:42.719 reason why it happened. 873 00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:46.320 I can't wait for the episode, honesee. I was literally 874 00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:48.280 just doing a little more research into them because I've 875 00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:51.480 looked into the Cathars before. It's an interesting minute. 876 00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:55.519 It's an interesting thing because it depends on what angle 877 00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:57.920 are you reading it from, because if you hear it 878 00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.320 from the Catholic angle, they feel righteous and justified. And 879 00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.039 I mean, Saint whatever the fuck his name was, I 880 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:09.159 came it was a weird name, is like justified like 881 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:12.400 for being that guy that took care of the Cathars 882 00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:16.159 and no mention of how many thousands of lives were killed. 883 00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:18.440 But then you hear it from the Cathar side right, Like, 884 00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:20.519 I went to this full on it. It's a website 885 00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.760 called Cathar dot info, one of the most awesome websites 886 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:27.280 I've ever visited in my life, Like, so full of knowledge, 887 00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:30.360 and it seems like a different story. 888 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:32.599 So I don't know. Maybe we'll present both of them 889 00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:35.440 and just get it from both angles. Did you know 890 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.679 that there is actually in the last few decades, there's 891 00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:41.559 been a pretty solid debate going on if the Catar 892 00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.960 has ever actually existed at all. Yeah, I'm sure there 893 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:48.840 is no no, hear me out, because if you look 894 00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:51.960 at the time and place, there is a possibility. And 895 00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.000 I'm not saying that I believe this personally, I do 896 00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.800 believe that there was a Cathar genocide the took place. However, 897 00:43:56.840 --> 00:44:00.119 there are scholars out there that are saying that the 898 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.360 Catholic Church created a boogeyman to scare people back into 899 00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:08.880 attending church, and they made up this entire thing about Cathars, 900 00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:11.480 all of the sources about them. It's very similar to 901 00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:14.840 how the druids. Right, we know that Druids existed. We 902 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:18.280 have no records from the Druids because that's not how 903 00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:21.199 they do All of our well, because they didn't write 904 00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:23.559 things down. All we have as far as the Druids, 905 00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:27.480 are a few scant sources from Rome. When it comes 906 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:31.599 to the Cathars, we have no Cathar like quote unquote 907 00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:37.079 legitimate Cathar liturgy. We have mostly stories about them written 908 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.840 by the Catholics who hated this group. And it's like 909 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:42.039 you got to take every single claim with a massive 910 00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:44.400 grain assault. Then we have some books that they claim 911 00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:46.480 we're a part of their literature and a part of 912 00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.599 their like their religious beliefs, but most of those were 913 00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.800 written about one hundreds of years after the crusade took place. 914 00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.719 And it's like, okay, well is this first person, is 915 00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:59.000 this third person? Is this? It's it's very very interesting 916 00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:00.599 to look at. And again I'm not saying that I 917 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.800 agree that Cathars weren't a thing. I believe that that 918 00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:06.119 genocide took place one hundred percent. But this is one 919 00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:08.880 of those times where history was written by the victors, 920 00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:11.639 and whatever you think you know about a group typically 921 00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:14.079 comes from the people that decided what you would hear 922 00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:14.760 about the group. 923 00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:18.840 Interesting that you just said it that way. It was 924 00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:22.920 written hundreds of years after it actually happened. How can 925 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:24.519 we verify its truth? 926 00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:27.960 No, no, no, I'm saying that as far as they're 927 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.400 like their Holy Book if you want to call it that, right, like, uh, 928 00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:33.360 the Secret Supper for instance. 929 00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.239 Yeah, that's an interesting read. By the way, I didn't 930 00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.320 even get all the way through it, but wow, that's crazy. 931 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:41.280 And if you read it, then you'll understand why the 932 00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:43.519 Catholic Church came after them as hard as they did. 933 00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:46.639 Like it was completely heretical, but. 934 00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:51.159 Good enough reason to dude, Literally, this is I And 935 00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:52.639 I can't remember the name of the king. I'm not 936 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:56.119 super I didn't, you know, do the research literally rate 937 00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:57.199 before the show, but I. 938 00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:59.880 Know that was Pope Innocent the third No, no, it's king. 939 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:02.079 I can't remember which king it was, but it was 940 00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:04.639 a king that was like basically go in there and 941 00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:06.960 kill them all and let God decide which ones are 942 00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.519 Cathars and which ones are Catholics, right, because they were 943 00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:15.280 going in into like villages and just killing everybody, men, women, children, 944 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.559 didn't matter if you were Cathar or not. Like, we're 945 00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:20.840 taking out this entire fucking village and so like, that's 946 00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.159 that's beyond genocide to me. 947 00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:28.400 But there really wasn't many children, because again they were very, 948 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:32.559 very very Gnostic, and the Gnostics believed that sex was evil. 949 00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:35.159 Children were the ultimate evil. As a matter of fact, 950 00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.880 there was a direct quote from one Cathar woman who 951 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:41.000 was pregnant and one of her Cathar women friends was like, 952 00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:42.840 you need to pray to God that he removes that 953 00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.920 demon from your belly before it ever breathes there. Yeah, 954 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:47.239 they hated children. 955 00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:49.599 Well, they didn't necessarily hate children. I think that's probably 956 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.880 coming from a Catholic point of view. But from what 957 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.280 I found is that they believe that just incarnating as 958 00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:59.400 a human was inherently evil, right, and so they believe 959 00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:02.280 that they did and believe in like they they actually said, 960 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.119 if you're going to have sex, like, just don't do 961 00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.960 it to like procreate. Don't don't do it to procreate, 962 00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:11.519 right like, because they didn't want to bring another soul 963 00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:13.960 and trap another soul into a human body. 964 00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:16.320 And you know they wanted the even married couples to 965 00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:17.119 not have sex. 966 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:21.599 Well, it's debated on I mean, I know we can 967 00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:23.320 get into it on the cast Bar episode. 968 00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:25.400 I'm fucking pumped, dude, And I'll tell you what. 969 00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:29.159 Doing a little bit of that research, they were talking 970 00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:32.039 mad shit about the Catholics and one of the crazy things. 971 00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.320 And I'm sure you'd probably already know this that uh, 972 00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:39.039 and I'm sure it's no longer a talking point, but 973 00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.719 at least back then, the Catholic Church was pushing that 974 00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:46.239 it was it was more of a sin to masturbate 975 00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:47.719 than it was to rape somebody. 976 00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:52.960 Do you know? That depends on which which scholar you're 977 00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:55.880 talking about. Some of them absolutely believe that. And then 978 00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:59.920 I think it was Martin Luther himself that was basically like, look, 979 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.159 masturbation is a sin, and we can agree to that, 980 00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:04.559 but also, if you don't tell these people how to, like, 981 00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.719 a dude is gonna come okay, and either he's gonna 982 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:11.599 do it into a woman or into his shirt okay, now, 983 00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.760 realistically which one's gonna have worse effects? And it was like, 984 00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:20.320 I mean, all right, that's fucked up. Though no, no, 985 00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:23.599 I'm definitely agreeing that masturbation is definitely not as bad 986 00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:29.039 or worse than raping someone. That's fucking insane. But I mean, yeah, 987 00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.320 day and Age wild shit. 988 00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:38.800 Samuel, go ahead, sir, Okay, that's fucked up. You don't 989 00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:40.079 got to do that to somebody. 990 00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:40.599 But my. 991 00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:42.599 Dad. 992 00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:44.599 One of the one of the things he would always 993 00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:45.840 like to each, Well. 994 00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:47.039 I just blown up. 995 00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:51.239 My dad always says, is it is better to put 996 00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:53.400 your seat into the belly of a whod than it 997 00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:54.800 is to spit it on the ground. 998 00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:59.360 No, it's not. That's actually a myth. That's not even 999 00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:03.000 in the Bible. It goes back to a very specific 1000 00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:05.400 instance where this dude was. 1001 00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:09.679 He was supposed to give his father children because his 1002 00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:12.360 brother died, and he was supposed to take his brother's 1003 00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:16.639 widow as his new wife because at that point a woman, 1004 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.239 it would it would doing not just just on hoba, 1005 00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:22.440 on the family if he did not do such. 1006 00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.119 So wait, he pulled out and came on the ground 1007 00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:26.679 and he was punished. 1008 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.599 Forge does it literally say better in the belly of 1009 00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:31.840 a whore? Though like in the Bible, legit like word 1010 00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:32.159 for word. 1011 00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:35.519 Well, I'll look up their actual. 1012 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:37.880 I remember us looking this up and it wasn't in there, 1013 00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:39.440 Like did we look this up a couple of years 1014 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:41.519 ago when we were still over at Christie's because Christy 1015 00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:42.400 was giving you shit for that. 1016 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:43.159 I remember that. 1017 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.599 Let me see that that was like that was like 1018 00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:50.559 some other writing, and people like confuse it with the 1019 00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:53.639 Bible or something like that. The phrase better to spill 1020 00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:55.920 your seed in the belly of a whore is not 1021 00:49:56.280 --> 00:50:00.480 a Bible verse, but a misquote or urban legend that 1022 00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:04.199 may stem from the misinterpretation of Genesis thirty eight, p. 1023 00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:07.679 Nine. The actual verse describes oon I was gonna say, 1024 00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:09.639 oh ma on my bad spilling his seat on the 1025 00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:12.880 ground to avoid giving offspring to his deceased brother's widow, 1026 00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:15.519 which was a wicked act in God's eyes because the 1027 00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:20.159 refusal he refused to fulfill the duty of a Leverett marriage. 1028 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:23.280 The misquoted phrase incorrectly implies that the act of spilling 1029 00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:26.559 seed is worse than impregnating a prostitute, when the original 1030 00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:28.519 passage condemns spilling. 1031 00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:33.280 Seed for lack of purpose, not the act itself. So, 1032 00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:35.599 but not exactly that quote. I mean, it may not 1033 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.599 implies it, but not that quote. 1034 00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:40.440 It's basically saying, though, yeah, spilling your seat on the ground, 1035 00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:43.800 like just coming without purpose of creating a life is 1036 00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.599 a sin. But of course people have taken that and 1037 00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:48.599 misquoted it to be other things, which that's the thing. 1038 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:50.360 It's like saying better in the belly of a whore 1039 00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:52.760 than on the ground, because at least there's some sort 1040 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:54.840 of a purpose to the one rather than the wasting 1041 00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:56.480 of the other, which is interesting. 1042 00:50:56.840 --> 00:51:00.599 It is interesting though, how you know, and this isn't me. 1043 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.400 I know that everybody is imperfect and we're all sinners 1044 00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:08.079 and dada. But it's interesting how people will cherry pick 1045 00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:10.119 and choose, like which is more of a sin than 1046 00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:14.159 than another than another thing? Right, Like alisexuality is a sin. 1047 00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:15.760 It's like it's only talked about like one time. I 1048 00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:19.119 think at the Bible maybe twice. But fasturbating onto the 1049 00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.679 floor is clearly okay, you know what I'm saying. 1050 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:25.719 Like, it's just about more than just a couple of times. 1051 00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:29.039 It's not like a massive talking point, but it is 1052 00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:30.960 definitely mentioned in the Old and New Test. 1053 00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:34.199 It's only mentioned two hundred times. How big of a 1054 00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:36.639 deal is it? Actually, it's a very good point. It's 1055 00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:37.800 a very good counter argument. 1056 00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.360 But to that point, also, the shape of the earth 1057 00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:44.320 versus a cardinal sin, I feel like, are two different conversations. 1058 00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:48.360 Just me. But yeah, I mean it's it's not like 1059 00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:50.719 a thing that people need to base their entire religious 1060 00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:57.679 belief upon, like the homosexuality thing cardinal sin. I mean, 1061 00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:00.639 I use that term loosely, sir, I'm not actually saying 1062 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:03.039 it's listed as a cardinal sin. And maybe I don't know, 1063 00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:06.199 but my point is I'm not saying that that is 1064 00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:08.159 something that you should like. Is the one thing that 1065 00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:10.519 keeps you from being a Christian is because they don't 1066 00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:14.039 like the gays. It's like, look, I disagree with homosexuality, 1067 00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:16.039 but not for any religious reason. I disagree with it 1068 00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:18.559 for scientific reasons, no, just me personally. 1069 00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:20.840 Sure, sure, but you know, whenever you got and I've 1070 00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:24.760 seen countless videos of people and you know, and say 1071 00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:27.519 what you want, but there are you know, gay and 1072 00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:31.320 trans priests and pastors and all that kind of shit, 1073 00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:35.280 and they're saying that, if ever, I will never bow down. Meanwhile, 1074 00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.079 the guy that's probably saying it probably beats his meat 1075 00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:37.960 six times a day. 1076 00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:38.400 Right. 1077 00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:42.039 It's like, so it's it's a bit contradictory at that point. 1078 00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.079 No, it's very contradictory. And I'm gonna try to give 1079 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:50.360 a comparison here, because again, before I say this, please 1080 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:53.679 do not think that Jacob is casting judgment on anyone. Okay, 1081 00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:58.079 because for instance, a openly gay person is openly living 1082 00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.880 in sin. Now, yes, every single human being alive today 1083 00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:04.280 is living in sin. But there's a difference between uh, 1084 00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:06.559 you know, living in sin and you're trying to work 1085 00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:08.599 on it and be better today than you were yesterday 1086 00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:10.880 and these kind of things and being openly loud and 1087 00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:14.480 proud about your sinful nature. Okay, these are two different conversations. Now, 1088 00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:17.960 this being said for a pastor to be openly gay 1089 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:21.280 and wearing like a rainbow stole as they're giving their sermon, 1090 00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:24.400 and shit, that's I wish I could find a decent 1091 00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:27.119 comparison that if we're going off of, like if a 1092 00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:29.599 sin is a sin as a sin, can you imagine 1093 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:35.159 if somebody was a professional thief, like not Robin Hood, shit, 1094 00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.719 I mean, like an actual professional bank robber who goes 1095 00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:41.559 up on and is also a pastor, and he goes 1096 00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:44.599 to church and preaches openly about how much money he's 1097 00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:48.840 stealing while he's preaching to people about being just and 1098 00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:54.000 moral Joe, Okay, but he's stealing things under the table. 1099 00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:56.679 I'm talking about like somebody gay wearing a rainbow stole 1100 00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:59.400 would be equivalent to a bank robber who just got 1101 00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:02.239 done sticking up a bank yesterday is talking about it 1102 00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:05.719 to his congregation. While giving a sermon. It's like, so what, 1103 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:08.840 it's better if you do it in the dark, then 1104 00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:12.280 if it's in it's not. It's not better. There's no 1105 00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:14.000 better or worse on this. The sin is the sin 1106 00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:16.719 is a sin. All I'm saying is that being open 1107 00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:19.079 about that thing that you are taught, like that being 1108 00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:21.119 openly gay and trying to give a sermon to a 1109 00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:24.639 group of people is a complete insult to the book. 1110 00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:28.239 The same way that if you were openly being a convict, 1111 00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:32.159 like openly committing acts of violence on people, and then 1112 00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:34.360 going and preaching a sermon, I would say it's equally 1113 00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:35.800 a slap in the face of the Bible. 1114 00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:38.280 But isn't it understood that everybody's a sinner and nobody 1115 00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:39.119 can live up to it. 1116 00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:43.199 So I understand, But but you're not supposed to live 1117 00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:47.760 being proud of your sin. I mean, that's that's crazy. 1118 00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:50.199 I don't know. I know, you should be trying to 1119 00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:53.239 leave your simple nature behind you and turning towards the 1120 00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:55.880 righteousness of God. You shouldn't be living in sin and 1121 00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:56.599 being proud of it. 1122 00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:58.760 How many people you know actually do that? Though, like 1123 00:54:58.800 --> 00:54:59.440 on some real. 1124 00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:01.679 Shit, that's beside the point. If you're gonna try to 1125 00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:04.440 lead a congregation, then you better at least do your 1126 00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:08.000 best to live up to the expectations. You're gonna fall short. 1127 00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:10.760 Everybody falls short. Everybody's a sinner, and I understand that. 1128 00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:13.559 But there's a difference between falling short and owning it 1129 00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:17.760 and being loud and proud about how sinful you are. 1130 00:55:18.039 --> 00:55:22.519 These are different conversations. I don't know. I mean, it's 1131 00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:26.760 you know, not my not my shit, but uh, spirit 1132 00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:30.000 animal as you light up the the ja over there, sir. 1133 00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:34.960 Jay, no doll is a blunt wow nice. 1134 00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:38.679 I don't typically bull joints, but when I do, it's 1135 00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:39.719 typically my ankle. 1136 00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:40.440 Oh. 1137 00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:48.480 But no, just thinking about the the cagos I kind 1138 00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:52.920 of made me think of like I saw the the 1139 00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.079 the thing down there, how it broke down and where 1140 00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:55.840 it said excre me. 1141 00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:58.519 I couldn't help, but thinking was it like a way 1142 00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:01.199 of them saying like a fun way of saying that cargo? 1143 00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:02.519 Did it involve in a cargo? 1144 00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:06.119 Because they could have been sawis bitan just since you 1145 00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:08.079 just things to be used. 1146 00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:15.000 No, no, no, cago c ag o t A lot 1147 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:17.840 of times you'll hear people say it's cagat. But in 1148 00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:20.280 the French language, you don't pronounce the last letter, so 1149 00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:21.280 that's why it's could go. 1150 00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:25.639 I oh see, I thought it was like cg O 1151 00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:28.000 my dumb ass can't spell my talk. 1152 00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:31.239 Well that's how it's that's how it's pronounced. But again 1153 00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:35.039 in the Spanish it was ag o t e s 1154 00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.599 a goats or something like gott or something like that, 1155 00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.960 which it was all kind of you know, this group 1156 00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:43.239 calls them this, this group calls them this, but it 1157 00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:46.480 was all the same, genetically, the same group of people 1158 00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:50.360 that for whatever reason, people in southern France just decided 1159 00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:53.800 fuck these people in particular. And like it's pretty crazy 1160 00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:57.039 because there's really no difference that anybody can find to 1161 00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:00.519 say that these people were actually different. But uh yeah, 1162 00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:02.400 the story about old boy getting his hand cut off 1163 00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:07.079 or using the wrong holy water, that is absolutely a 1164 00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:09.559 factual story. And when I was in France, I saw 1165 00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:12.880 multiple cathedrals with the small little door on the side 1166 00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:14.280 of it for the cago. 1167 00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:19.760 So with that being said, oh no, don't they know 1168 00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:23.559 that Jesus himself said he who was out sind made 1169 00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:28.159 for cassa firs stone. And I don't know about you, 1170 00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:30.920 but I think God probably would still strike a man 1171 00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:35.599 of the cloth for despecating his holy worship. 1172 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:37.679 I mean the man Jesus. 1173 00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:41.679 Jesus constantly made a bull whip and drove the Pharisees 1174 00:57:41.719 --> 00:57:42.400 out in the temple. 1175 00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:45.800 That was for greed. But no, I'm with you on this. 1176 00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:48.639 I uh, I don't think that that was a good 1177 00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:52.159 thing to do, to treat any of God's children in 1178 00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:54.960 such a despicable manner. But that's also why we wanted 1179 00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:57.719 to do an episode on it, is because like that 1180 00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:02.960 was literally racism for res sake. There was no reason 1181 00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:06.280 for them to be ostracized in the manner that they did. 1182 00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:09.880 And there was all these different possible myths and rumors 1183 00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:12.039 as to why they were so hated. None of them 1184 00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:15.000 were backed by anything other than hearsay, and over the 1185 00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:17.920 course of a few hundred years, it was just understood, Yeah, 1186 00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:20.480 fuck those people. Why because granddad said so, and his 1187 00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.559 granddad before him, And it's like, sure, I guess fuck. 1188 00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:28.159 Them, Okay, so I can understand down that line. But 1189 00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:32.639 I my thing is the like, were they You said 1190 00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:35.119 it was racism for racism, but that you couldn't tell 1191 00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:39.199 them any different from any other Frenchies. So what were 1192 00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:42.119 they like descendants of the Moors, because he's what the 1193 00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:43.239 Moors all throughout you have. 1194 00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:47.159 Also they there's a couple of different theories. Some suggest 1195 00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:50.119 that they were the descendants of the Moorish invaders to Spain. 1196 00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:55.920 Some suggest that they were basically half bred Gypsies. Some 1197 00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:59.480 suggest that they were actually all descendant from a carpenter's 1198 00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:03.639 guild that were ostracized because they did piss poor work 1199 00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:05.400 at one point in time. And then the myths about 1200 00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:07.920 them creating the Cross of Christ or them creating building 1201 00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:10.760 the Temple of Solomon, that like that's the thing. It's 1202 00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:16.079 like there's all these possibilities, but there's nothing actual factual 1203 00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:19.039 to say that. And again there are could go grave 1204 00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:21.719 sites that have been exhoomed, there have been DNA tests 1205 00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:24.159 that have been done on their bones. There is no 1206 00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:27.440 Moorish ancestry, there is no Jewish ancestry, there is no 1207 00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.280 Gypsy ancestry at all about. 1208 00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:33.000 Uh Flannis, Like could they have been a band of 1209 00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:33.840 like Ganghis Khan. 1210 00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:38.239 There's everything within this shows that they were one hundred 1211 00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:42.840 percent French. No dissemination on a race type of thing. 1212 00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:45.480 When I'm saying racism, I'm basically saying it's the whole 1213 00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:48.440 us versus them thing, just to have us versus them, 1214 00:59:48.639 --> 00:59:51.000 it's the it's the haves and the have nots, just 1215 00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:52.400 to have someone to shit on. 1216 00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:55.320 At that point, it would be that would be tribalism, 1217 00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:57.400 not racism, tribalism, but either. 1218 01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:03.880 Yeah, same with like the Hutus and the Tutsis right 1219 01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:07.400 in Rwanda. Looking at them, you would not know the 1220 01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:12.239 difference between either of them. They look identical, they worship identical, 1221 01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:14.960 they speak the same language if I'm not mistaken. But 1222 01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:19.239 because this person has this little letter on their identification card, 1223 01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:23.840 they're different and fuck them it sure all right, tribalism 1224 01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:25.480 for the sake of tribalism. 1225 01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:25.960 You know. 1226 01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:30.199 Doctor Seuss dided a book over tribalism at sash racism. 1227 01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:33.639 Oh it was the butter war with the side that 1228 01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:36.239 had butter side up and butter side down. It was 1229 01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:39.960 literally could when you just you just. 1230 01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:43.360 Made me think of that, Yeah, doctor Seuss wrote there 1231 01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:45.679 was a picture I know of where it was like 1232 01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:50.000 straight up like taking black people using a hard R 1233 01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:53.000 inward on the sign and these people throwing them into 1234 01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:55.960 fires and shit. Doctor Seuss, who was a Jew, was 1235 01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:59.519 all about bringing awareness about the Holocaust, was not shy 1236 01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:03.199 about his hatred for African Americans. I get that that 1237 01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:05.639 was crazy and you look it up now, like, yo, 1238 01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:08.800 doctor Seuss was actually a racist piece of shit? 1239 01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:10.199 What? 1240 01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:13.719 Oh dude, up shit, hold on, I'll look I'll find 1241 01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:19.679 the image I got you. This is mind blowing, Uh, Dougie, 1242 01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:20.280 Go ahead, sir. 1243 01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:24.920 So, I want to take us back to your favorite place, 1244 01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:30.280 Jonathan Church. So would you rather listen to a sermon 1245 01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:34.079 from an openly gay reverend or priest? Or would you 1246 01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:36.800 rather sit and listen to Kenneth Copeland? 1247 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:38.280 Oh, I would. 1248 01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:42.159 Rather listen to nine thousand trainies. No, I'm just kidding. 1249 01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:46.039 Uh No, it's I I honestly really don't care. Like 1250 01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:48.199 I'm first of all, I'm probably not going to be 1251 01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:50.719 going to sit in on a church, not necessarily because 1252 01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:53.119 I would hate it, or that I would burn in 1253 01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:57.000 hell or anything like that. It's just that, you know, 1254 01:01:57.079 --> 01:01:59.519 a lot of the times I'm I like going. I 1255 01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:01.199 used to like going to church because I felt like 1256 01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:04.239 I was learning something. But the last few times that 1257 01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:07.199 I went, I felt like I wasn't really much that 1258 01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:09.840 I was learning. And I now I know that, you know, 1259 01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:13.039 church isn't entirely just about learning. It's about worshiping and 1260 01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:15.719 praying and being with the masses. I get all that, 1261 01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:19.000 but I was going strictly to try and be a sponge. 1262 01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.679 Maybe to have it interpreted a little bit different to me, 1263 01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:24.639 but yeah, I don't care. I mean, I think that 1264 01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:26.800 if the message resonates, who gives a shit? If who 1265 01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:29.480 gives a shit, who's saying it? That's that's what I think, 1266 01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:32.400 you know, And most of the time, Kenneth Copeland, I 1267 01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:35.039 I don't know if there's a single word that that 1268 01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:39.079 man could utter that could possibly resonate with anything about 1269 01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:39.719 what I believe. 1270 01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:43.079 I'm with you on this, so anyway, Yeah, on screen 1271 01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:47.440 right now is some of the racist ass artwork done 1272 01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:50.480 by doctor Seuss. We're not going to read what the 1273 01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.280 sign says. It's a Google search way for anybody that's curious. 1274 01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:58.320 But it's not like this was, uh, this was an 1275 01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:01.639 unknown thing. You know, everybody wants to learn about the 1276 01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:06.320 Lorax and the Grinch who stole Christmas and all these things. 1277 01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:11.440 But yeah, no, he was. He was absolutely racist as 1278 01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:15.880 the fuck. Here he is making fun of your brethren, actually, Samuel, 1279 01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:22.039 but yeah, he's making a joke about all the Asian 1280 01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:25.880 immigrants to California and they're handing them dynamite for it, 1281 01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:33.559 you know, walking along the road, it says, waiting for 1282 01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:37.639 the signal from home as the Japanese with the TNT 1283 01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:42.199 Honorable fifth Column and things. Yeah, he was. Doctor Seuss 1284 01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.480 was kind of a raging piece of shit, to be honest. 1285 01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:46.840 Then. 1286 01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:52.000 I mean, that was probably in the fifties, I'm guessing right, fifties, sixties. 1287 01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:56.760 Probably the forties because Japan attacked Paul Harbor and there 1288 01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:00.920 was a family that did get Japanese family on one 1289 01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:04.119 of the Hawaiian islands that did get executed because they 1290 01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:06.280 helped a down Japanese pilot. 1291 01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:10.199 Yep, it's very factual information. But yeah, anyway, just so 1292 01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:13.320 we're all clear, doctor Seuss wasn't the kind hero that 1293 01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:15.599 everybody makes him out to be. That's for goddamn sure. 1294 01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:16.599 I know. 1295 01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:22.079 Actually, oh, there's there's arguments. I've been listening about it 1296 01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:26.079 because of the over the Japanese thing. If that didn't happen, 1297 01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:28.519 it was probably a high likelihood that there. 1298 01:04:28.440 --> 01:04:31.480 Wouldn't have been a Japanese intermament camps. 1299 01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:36.360 Yeah, yeah, which also then the fuck what was it? 1300 01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:39.440 Is it one hundred and forty fourth Infantry Battalion that 1301 01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:44.599 was comprised of only Japanese descendants that in the army, 1302 01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:47.159 And they didn't send them to the Pacific Theater. They 1303 01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:51.719 sent them to the European Theater. And those dudes they 1304 01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:55.800 took names. They fucking left blood trails for what they 1305 01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:58.039 did because they were trying to prove to the world. Yeah, 1306 01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:00.239 we happen to be Japanese, but we're not supported of 1307 01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:03.679 this shit where Americans first, And yeah, you can look 1308 01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:06.960 at their battlefield records. They took tons of losses, but 1309 01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:15.280 they had some brazenly, insanely valorous charges into enemy territory. 1310 01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.960 But anyway, anyway, wild things, just getting back over the 1311 01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:21.280 chat because we were falling behind here. White boy Wizard said, 1312 01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:23.239 all the way back, what up, you lovely folks? 1313 01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:24.679 What up? 1314 01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:27.440 Ali Kat said, what's up you beautiful souls? 1315 01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:27.760 Man? 1316 01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:30.199 What a different sentiment. And we still somehow take both 1317 01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:30.840 of those to heart. 1318 01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:33.960 We do, we do? They both give me the warming bussies. 1319 01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:38.920 Ashton said, you got to nurture the inner child to 1320 01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:42.519 enter heaven. Most adults are spiritually dead read Matthew eighteen three. 1321 01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:46.400 And I'll just I pulled it up just out of curiosity, 1322 01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.760 but I remember reading this. Matthew eighteen three states that 1323 01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:52.480 unless you change and become like little children, you will 1324 01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:54.199 never enter the Kingdom of Heaven. 1325 01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:57.440 Yeah. That was in reference to Jesus was teaching and 1326 01:05:57.480 --> 01:05:59.199 some kids ran up to come see him in the 1327 01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:01.880 ap We're basically telling these kids a fuck off, and 1328 01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:04.039 He's like, no, no, no, Let the kids in because 1329 01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:05.800 if you don't start learning it at their age, you'll 1330 01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:08.679 never understand it. You all need to have the mind 1331 01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:11.920 of a child when trying to understand the father. 1332 01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:19.440 Yeah, dirty, Sanchez said, missed you all dirty? Same same uh, 1333 01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:22.519 White boy Wizard said, bro I told my nephews at 1334 01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:26.239 Christmas that Israel was being a piece of shit. Far 1335 01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:29.400 forward or fast forward to now they're headed down the 1336 01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:34.960 rabbit holes now, proud uncle, fuck yeah man, nice one 1337 01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:37.599 ring to rule them all. Shared a post that says 1338 01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:42.639 from eighteen to nine, Iraq shocking new law sparks global outrage. 1339 01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:46.320 Parliament just approved amendments allowing girls as young as nine 1340 01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:50.719 to be married. This decision overturns decades of progress under 1341 01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:54.159 the nineteen fifty nine Personal Status Law, which had protected 1342 01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:57.440 women's rights and set the legal marriage at eighteen. This 1343 01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:00.280 move is being condemned worldwide as a major said back 1344 01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:04.639 for women and children's rights human rights. Human rights groups 1345 01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:07.519 warned that it that it opens the door to abuse 1346 01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:11.960 and strips away critical protections like divorce and inheritance. What 1347 01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:15.199 was once seen as a model for women's equality in 1348 01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:17.320 the Middle East is now at risk of being erased. 1349 01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:22.119 Wow. Nine, Yeah, Iraq just made that a new national 1350 01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:25.320 law that you can I can't have a father. You 1351 01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:28.719 can marry off your daughter at nine years old, but 1352 01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:30.679 I have a nine year old daughter. Yeah, I can't say. 1353 01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.000 I'll be goddamned No, dude, I mean do it. My 1354 01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:35.480 daughter's thirteen. I'll be damned with that. 1355 01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:40.599 It's disgusting and uh yeah, but that's that's just their culture, 1356 01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:43.880 you know, that's that's just that's okay with them. I mean, hell, 1357 01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:47.679 their prophet, pretty Donna his name married was a six 1358 01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:49.719 year old and then waited till she was nine or 1359 01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:52.079 I'm getting the ages a little confused here before he 1360 01:07:52.239 --> 01:07:54.360 actually ended up fucking her. He was a giant to 1361 01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:57.159 understood that she was playing with dolls at the time 1362 01:07:57.239 --> 01:08:03.199 when he consummated the fucking marriage dude, gross, it's disgusting, 1363 01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:04.320 good spirit animal. 1364 01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:08.039 So she was six years old and he read it 1365 01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:11.199 till she was nine before he sucked it. Okay, well, yeah, 1366 01:08:11.559 --> 01:08:14.119 there there is no chance in hell that some bitch 1367 01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:19.000 is in heaven. He even said that if I if 1368 01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:22.439 I blasphemed him and did any revelations of scripture that 1369 01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:25.720 did not come from Allah's lips, may he severn my order. 1370 01:08:26.039 --> 01:08:27.479 Guess how that little fucker died. 1371 01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:30.800 It's fucking great, I know. So. 1372 01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:32.319 Yeah. 1373 01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:37.119 Also, whenever an angel says, hey, uh, be not afraid 1374 01:08:37.479 --> 01:08:42.399 and everything, they too, because hey, they are fucking scary looking. 1375 01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:43.079 Okay. 1376 01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:47.920 And he but Muhammad was prophesied to come about well 1377 01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:51.399 before he was one. He said, if anyone shall teach 1378 01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:55.319 the gospels that we have not revealed to you, do 1379 01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:57.840 not trust him, for even an a the devil shall 1380 01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:00.479 masquerade as an angel of the light. And opposed to 1381 01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:05.239 the angel that showed itself to Mohammad in the caves, 1382 01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:08.520 his name was Angel Jibil, which well, I butchered that 1383 01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:13.239 but which it is Arabic for gable wheel, and he 1384 01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:18.359 possessed Mohammed tossed that bitch around the cave like Batista 1385 01:09:19.039 --> 01:09:23.399 and he Mohammed ran away, ran to Aisha, Uh cried 1386 01:09:23.479 --> 01:09:28.880 on her tunic, and he contemplated suicide because for because 1387 01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:34.439 and then Uh Lucifer came to him and Uh made 1388 01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:38.079 him possessed him to painfully write out the Qur'an, which 1389 01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:42.720 Mohammad was illiterate, and half the shit that's in it 1390 01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:43.960 makes no goddamn sense. 1391 01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:49.439 Yeah. Again, I just not trying to shit on anybody's 1392 01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:51.960 personal religious beliefs. So I get mind, shit on a 1393 01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:54.319 good bit from time time doesn't feel good. I get that. 1394 01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:57.760 But you know, it doesn't take much critical thinking to 1395 01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:01.399 look at the backstory and be like, huh, this kind 1396 01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:04.479 of doesn't check out. You know, I don't know. I 1397 01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:06.520 know people are gonna be like, wow, Jacob, you really 1398 01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:08.960 said that. Yeah, no, I did. I did because I 1399 01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:11.279 believe that the Bible is one hundred percent truth, and 1400 01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:13.239 you can look into it. You could see when it 1401 01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:15.920 was written, the time, place and audience, the context, all 1402 01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:18.199 these things. You could try to do that with the Quran, 1403 01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:20.199 and the more you do it, the more disgusting and 1404 01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:23.119 wrong and bad it gets. That's what I'm saying. 1405 01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:27.039 It's very clear, except whenever somebody tries to challenge those beliefs, 1406 01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:29.800 and then they get shut on, ship on and shut up, 1407 01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:32.920 and you know, haggled and all the fun things. 1408 01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:39.399 I'll let, I'll let. I'll debate you anytime about about Christianity. 1409 01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:40.840 I love having conversations. 1410 01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:45.960 I have a daily conversation with voice between Judaism and Christianity. 1411 01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:47.039 That sh it's awesome. 1412 01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:50.800 Yeah, I can say I do how you question things, 1413 01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:53.560 it doesn't really offend me because it doesn't shake my 1414 01:10:54.039 --> 01:10:55.039 belief in Jesus. 1415 01:10:56.960 --> 01:11:00.560 That's yeah, that's not what I'm trying to do at all. Like, 1416 01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:02.239 I know, some people kind of took it that way 1417 01:11:02.319 --> 01:11:05.600 that I'm like, see, you're you know, you're wrong for 1418 01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:07.840 believing it. I'm just saying, you know, I was kind 1419 01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:10.119 of just bringing up some points that was like, man, 1420 01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:13.560 like this is kind of taking a giant leap of 1421 01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:16.119 faith by believing it, and so I was just trying 1422 01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:18.560 to point to it being a myth. The myth doesn't 1423 01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:20.880 like if something is mythological, at least to me, I 1424 01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:23.439 look at everything as mythological, Like it doesn't mean that 1425 01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:25.960 nothing exists to me and nothing's real and there is 1426 01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:28.640 no God or anything. Just by looking at something mythological 1427 01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:30.199 that that was kind of my point. 1428 01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:35.239 The premise of a myth would be that it's not real. Yeah, 1429 01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:39.000 but what's the message? But a myth means that it's 1430 01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:41.000 not real. You can get a you can get a 1431 01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:44.640 message from reading a fictitious book. That doesn't make the 1432 01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:51.960 fictitious story real. Jonah and the Well, which I am 1433 01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:53.720 of the belief. As a matter of fact, there's actually 1434 01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:57.560 a secular source to talk about the dude who came 1435 01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:00.359 in smelling like fish, who we would now know to 1436 01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:03.560 be Jonah, who the way he got to where he 1437 01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:07.319 was going makes no fucking sense. But yeah, hold on, dude, 1438 01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:10.119 how long? How long was he supposed to be in 1439 01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:13.319 that whales mouth? It's been a minute since I looked 1440 01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:15.960 at the story. I'll look it up. I want to 1441 01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:17.640 say three days, but I don't want to misspeak. As 1442 01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:19.720 a matter of fact, just hold that thought. But what's 1443 01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:20.119 your point? 1444 01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:24.199 My point is is that it sounds ridiculous as a 1445 01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:28.199 real story, and what can you garner from the deeper 1446 01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:31.840 underlying message is what I was trying to say, Like 1447 01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:34.760 Jesus spoke in parables for a reason, like you were 1448 01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:37.600 like almost never meant to take him literal, right. 1449 01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:40.560 Like three days and three nights. And also what do 1450 01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:41.359 you mean by that? 1451 01:12:42.119 --> 01:12:45.479 I'm saying most of Jesus sayings are kind of parables 1452 01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:49.439 and not to be taken literal, right is it not 1453 01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:50.880 understood if. 1454 01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:53.439 You're supposed to take literal? But as a matter of fact, 1455 01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:55.640 hold on, I want to look up. I just snapped 1456 01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:57.319 this picture of a story as far as like dude 1457 01:12:57.359 --> 01:13:00.239 surviving in whales and things like that. Have you ever 1458 01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:03.880 heard of the story of James Bartley? I can't say 1459 01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:08.760 it half. Imagine being swallowed alive by a colossal sea creature, 1460 01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:12.920 engulfed in total darkness, submerged in the living furnace of acid, 1461 01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:16.840 mucus and crushing pressure. Then, after hours of unimaginable terror, 1462 01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:19.640 you emerge alive, breathing, blinded by the light, and you 1463 01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:21.439 are no longer just a man. You are a legend. 1464 01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:24.720 In eighteen ninety one, aboard the British whaling ship Star 1465 01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:27.640 of the East, near the Falkland Islands, a crew set 1466 01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:30.640 out after a giant sperm whale. Amid the chaos of 1467 01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:33.039 the hunt, a young sailor named James Bartley fell into 1468 01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:35.520 the sea and vanished. His crewmates believed that he had 1469 01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:39.119 drowned or worse, been swallowed whole by the whale. Hours passed, 1470 01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:41.600 and the crew eventually harpooned the whale and hauled its 1471 01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:45.199 massive body aboard the harvest to harvest's valuable oil. But 1472 01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:47.920 with they found inside shocked them to their core. Within 1473 01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:51.039 the stomach of the beast, they discovered Bartley, still alive, 1474 01:13:52.239 --> 01:13:56.159 unconscious and coated in layers of digestive slime. For nearly 1475 01:13:56.279 --> 01:13:59.880 two days. James Bartley had survived entombed in the bell 1476 01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:03.479 of this beast. When he regained consciousness, he described a 1477 01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:07.520 suffocating world of heat, stench, and pitch darkness, walls pressing 1478 01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:10.279 in every breath of struggle. His skin had been permanently 1479 01:14:10.319 --> 01:14:13.199 scarred the whale's stomach acids, and he would never fully recover, 1480 01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:16.479 But he became known as the modern Jonah, a living 1481 01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:19.199 witness to the terrifying power of nature and the fragility 1482 01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:22.319 of man. This tale remains etched in maritime lore as 1483 01:14:22.319 --> 01:14:25.159 both miracle and mystery. A man swallowed by the sea 1484 01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:28.640 itself and return so once again. Even in modern Ish times. 1485 01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:31.520 They're talking the eighteen hundreds. Homeboy gets swallowed by a 1486 01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:35.319 whale and survives for two days inside of the whale 1487 01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:41.119 and then gets recovered. So once again, yes, 'tis possible. 1488 01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:43.399 Well, I mean, you're kind of changing your tone on that. 1489 01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:44.079 Over the years. 1490 01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:45.680 You used to always say that it was a parable, 1491 01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:47.720 and you're only just now coming around to the fact 1492 01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:50.239 that it's a believable story. And I think that you're 1493 01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:53.319 only really having that point of view just to combat me. 1494 01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:54.279 But that's totally fine. 1495 01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:57.159 No, I have always said that, like, yes, could that 1496 01:14:57.279 --> 01:15:01.279 be a real story and God made some miraculous shit happen? Yeah? Absolutely, 1497 01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:05.159 could that also be a parable? Sure it could be. 1498 01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:09.680 But again this proves that at least it's possible to 1499 01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:12.720 have that exact thing happened, swallowed by a whale and 1500 01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:15.680 then spat up later still alive. How could you survive 1501 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:17.880 in a fish for that long? That's crazy. They did 1502 01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:21.880 it in the eighteen hundreds, so you know, I was 1503 01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:25.279 not entirely as long as your boy. You're right, it 1504 01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:28.479 was two days, not three. Bro, Come on here, I 1505 01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:31.640 don't know how much life survived. I don't know how 1506 01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:33.000 much longer he could have survived. 1507 01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:35.359 I don't know how much longer. It said that it 1508 01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:37.600 was like caving in on him. He couldn't have lasted 1509 01:15:37.640 --> 01:15:39.279 longer than that, right, didn't isn't that what it was 1510 01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:39.760 alluding to? 1511 01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:42.399 Yes? But also that was a sperm whale. I have 1512 01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:46.520 no idea the breed of whale that swallowed Jonah. And 1513 01:15:46.680 --> 01:15:50.239 again it's very miraculous that that's even a biblical story. 1514 01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:52.760 But my point is that, yes, there is at least 1515 01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:55.079 some credence to say that that is a possible thing 1516 01:15:55.159 --> 01:15:58.319 that realistically took place, not in a parable or a metaphor, 1517 01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:00.399 but physically in real life. Right. 1518 01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:03.119 But my point, my point about all that is that 1519 01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:06.800 now you're saying that Jesus never spoke in parables because 1520 01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:10.680 he was only speaking about truths because all parables you're 1521 01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:13.600 not supposed to take it literally, right, Like, So, like, 1522 01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:16.319 I don't understand what you're trying to say now, because 1523 01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:19.479 like what part are we not supposed to Are you 1524 01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:22.000 supposed to literally take all of it literal? Like how 1525 01:16:22.039 --> 01:16:26.039 do you know which parts to take literal? Yes, that's sam. 1526 01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:29.880 I feel like I'm not understanding your question. Brother, I'm 1527 01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:32.800 gonna be honest with you. So, Jesus preached in parables 1528 01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:36.079 for a reason. There was there was a very specific 1529 01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:38.560 reason why he did this instead of just giving people 1530 01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:41.520 outright boom boom boom, here's what you do. He told 1531 01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:44.359 stories of how to apply the will of God to 1532 01:16:44.479 --> 01:16:45.239 your life. 1533 01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:49.279 Right, and and the Gnostics spoke but nothing in parables. 1534 01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:51.239 And they're said to be heretical craziness. 1535 01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:54.800 No, no, no, their heretical craziness is because they literally 1536 01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:58.319 said that Jesus wasn't real. It was the spirit of Jesus, 1537 01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:01.800 and that he wasn't a physical in which goes against 1538 01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:04.039 the shroud of touring being real, which we did a 1539 01:17:04.039 --> 01:17:06.840 whole episode so on how real that is. It might 1540 01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:09.119 not be bro If that's not real, then it is 1541 01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:12.119 the best forgery known to man, to them to the 1542 01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:13.439 tune of the correct pollen. 1543 01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:16.159 And we're talking about we're talking about literally, this is 1544 01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:19.119 another conversation of the God of the gaps, like this 1545 01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:21.680 is well, because we can't explain it now, then it 1546 01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:24.119 must be God right, like people have been doing that 1547 01:17:24.279 --> 01:17:28.239 literally for centuries until people have found out how to 1548 01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:30.600 do it. It's like, what what happens whenever they figure 1549 01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:33.159 out how to do it? What I mean, what are 1550 01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:33.800 you saying about that? 1551 01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:37.800 There's no way that they would have known in the allegedly. 1552 01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:39.479 If it's a forgery, then it came about in the 1553 01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:42.800 fifteen hundreds. There is no way of knowing in the 1554 01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:45.359 fifteen hundreds that, oh, wait, wait for this forgery. We 1555 01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:50.439 need to go get some flowers from Jerusalem and make 1556 01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:53.319 sure that we sprinkle that pollen on this cloth to 1557 01:17:53.399 --> 01:17:55.279 make sure that somebody in the future will have a 1558 01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:57.720 thing called a laboratory and they'll break. 1559 01:17:57.560 --> 01:17:58.119 It down and do this. 1560 01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:00.640 There's no way that they would have had that change 1561 01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:03.079 to make that forgery that correct. That thing changed so 1562 01:18:03.239 --> 01:18:06.720 many hands, I know, and that's my point. There's a 1563 01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:08.760 chain of custody that you could track all the way 1564 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:12.800 to the original church in Antioch. Like it. The chain 1565 01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:15.239 of custody lines up. There's no way that that's a fake. 1566 01:18:15.319 --> 01:18:17.079 I don't even want to be the guy that says 1567 01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:18.039 all of this is wrong. 1568 01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:20.920 I'm not. It's not my religion. I'm not. I'm not 1569 01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:22.319 being that guy anymore. I'm not. 1570 01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:25.560 Don't even ask me about anything religious or Christian anymore. 1571 01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:28.319 I don't even want to go there because now I'm 1572 01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:30.439 I don't like being the bad guy. I don't want 1573 01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:32.800 to be that like. I already got enough shit from 1574 01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:35.800 people's you know, not everybody you know. Of course, there 1575 01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:37.840 are some people that actually really fucked with those episodes 1576 01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:41.119 and everything, and I thank you guys, but there, Yeah, 1577 01:18:41.159 --> 01:18:45.680 I don't want to be the adversary, the satan, if 1578 01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:47.680 you will, I'm not. That's not the role I want 1579 01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:47.960 to play. 1580 01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:51.079 No, but even you during the Shroud of Touring conversation, 1581 01:18:51.800 --> 01:18:54.199 you were talking about how real it is you're changing 1582 01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:56.600 your tune now and it seems just to combat meat. 1583 01:18:56.640 --> 01:18:58.520 You just accused me of doing this a few minutes ago. 1584 01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:01.520 I mean, I think that it's only right to evolve 1585 01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:03.760 your understanding. And even then, whenever I was doing the 1586 01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:05.680 whole Shroud of torn thing, I was bringing up other 1587 01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:06.439 examples of it. 1588 01:19:08.479 --> 01:19:09.760 What do you mean examples? 1589 01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:14.279 What was it Homegirl in fucking Mexico or Spain or 1590 01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:16.560 some shit that kept on seeing the stains pop up 1591 01:19:16.600 --> 01:19:17.960 on their on their cement floor. 1592 01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:21.119 Right, Yeah, that's not the same as the Shroud of Touring. Dude. 1593 01:19:21.359 --> 01:19:23.560 There was that case of those girls that saw the 1594 01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:27.159 Blessed Mother Mary once upon a time, and they got 1595 01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:29.399 seen as like local heroes because of it, and they 1596 01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:31.439 got seen as like prophets and shit. It was like, bro, 1597 01:19:32.560 --> 01:19:36.199 that's not the same as an actual physical cloth that 1598 01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:38.159 Jesus war to his tomb. 1599 01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:41.800 Maybe I don't know. I die like I'm just saying 1600 01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:43.399 I don't know what I don't know. I can't say 1601 01:19:43.439 --> 01:19:45.439 that I absolutely know that the shroud of torn is 1602 01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:47.720 a is a real thing. I'm just saying, I'm I'm 1603 01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:49.399 open for it being either way. 1604 01:19:50.039 --> 01:19:52.520 But can you at least acknowledge as far as Joan 1605 01:19:52.600 --> 01:19:55.000 and the Whale goes that the story I just read 1606 01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:58.279 at least gives a little bit of credence to the 1607 01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:02.640 possibility that that physically he could have happened. Sure, Yeah, 1608 01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:05.520 two days in the whale and survived three days. And 1609 01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:07.039 I don't even know if it was like if they 1610 01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:09.159 would have waited one more hour, if he would have died. 1611 01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:12.199 I don't know that. I don't know how long a 1612 01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:14.800 person can physically live inside the belly of a whale. 1613 01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:17.119 But this guy successfully could do it for two Jonah 1614 01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:18.880 allegedly did it for three. I feel like it's not 1615 01:20:19.039 --> 01:20:19.840 that far of a stress. 1616 01:20:19.880 --> 01:20:22.640 But do you see like how you like, Christians are 1617 01:20:22.680 --> 01:20:25.279 geared to win the argument either way, which is frustrating 1618 01:20:25.560 --> 01:20:29.159 because it's either it's It's not that silly it could 1619 01:20:29.199 --> 01:20:31.960 have happened, and look, here's an example of him almost 1620 01:20:32.039 --> 01:20:34.079 getting there. But then you bring up the flood and 1621 01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:35.760 it's like, well, dude, you just gotta have faith. That's 1622 01:20:35.800 --> 01:20:37.600 the only way. Like there's no other way. You just 1623 01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:39.680 gotta have faith. And it's like you there is no 1624 01:20:39.880 --> 01:20:44.720 disproving like that's and that's kind of like the pickle 1625 01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:47.079 that I'm in. That's why I said, I'm distancing myself 1626 01:20:47.079 --> 01:20:50.439 from it because you can't convince somebody who has been convinced. 1627 01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:53.239 So quit trying to disprove it and acknowledge it to 1628 01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:56.199 be true. It's so much easier this way. No, No, 1629 01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:58.479 come on, like you're trying to disprove the one plug 1630 01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:01.039 equals two so hard, And it's like, brother, I promise you, 1631 01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:02.880 it's a lot easier if you accept it as a 1632 01:21:02.920 --> 01:21:03.520 true statement. 1633 01:21:03.560 --> 01:21:06.560 I don't want to be subject to the hypnosis. 1634 01:21:07.039 --> 01:21:09.000 That's not me. You don't have to. In fact, you 1635 01:21:09.079 --> 01:21:11.800 should think critically about every step of it. That's the point. 1636 01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:16.119 I agree, Yeah, And that's people don't like that. You 1637 01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:18.880 should any Christian out there that just does that and 1638 01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:21.760 doesn't think critically. He gave you a book, you think 1639 01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:24.920 he didn't want you to analyze it. You should analyze it. 1640 01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:28.960 That's the point. Dig deeper, find context, find true meaning, 1641 01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:33.359 find original translations, go against certain narratives to try to 1642 01:21:33.399 --> 01:21:36.479 push against and find the truth. That's the whole point. 1643 01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:36.920 You know. 1644 01:21:37.159 --> 01:21:39.640 And I will say this, dude, And I know, and 1645 01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:43.720 this is another thing, because you know, it's seen as 1646 01:21:43.960 --> 01:21:47.560 a good act and a pious act for you to 1647 01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:50.399 kind of push your religion onto other people because you 1648 01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:52.840 believe that it will save that person. Right, So I 1649 01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:55.800 know that it comes from a very kind place in 1650 01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:57.840 your heart. But I will say it's pretty it's pretty 1651 01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:02.239 aggravating actually, like I don't know, it's like it's almost 1652 01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:04.560 conceited in a way, is kind of the way that 1653 01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:06.680 I look at it, because you're saying, to be you, 1654 01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:09.720 poor thing, you just don't get it, let me help 1655 01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:10.079 you with it. 1656 01:22:10.199 --> 01:22:13.600 And in that way, it's almost like, I don't know, 1657 01:22:13.840 --> 01:22:16.439 I don't like that. If that's how I come across, 1658 01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:18.960 then I apologize. It's never meant to be that way 1659 01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:22.159 of belittling anyone or making someone feel like they're dumb 1660 01:22:22.279 --> 01:22:24.800 for not believing it. Not at all. But if you 1661 01:22:24.880 --> 01:22:27.920 have questions about why I believe what I believe or 1662 01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:30.880 why the book might say certain things like, then let's 1663 01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:34.399 open the conversation and let's let's have that discussion, right, 1664 01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:35.600 And I mean at the end of it, if we 1665 01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:37.279 agree to disagree, then that's just what it is. 1666 01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:40.800 But you know, you understand though, like how if a 1667 01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:44.920 lot of that can if from a perspective, a lot 1668 01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:47.279 of those stories can be debunked, then it has to 1669 01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:50.760 it falls under the term of conspiracy. 1670 01:22:51.079 --> 01:22:51.199 Right. 1671 01:22:52.680 --> 01:22:55.079 But again, I don't believe that there's book stories that 1672 01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:57.640 can be debunked. There are some things that are questionable, 1673 01:22:58.000 --> 01:22:59.359 and I will give you that, and there are certain 1674 01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:02.800 things that are more raculous that defy all logic or understanding. 1675 01:23:03.159 --> 01:23:05.920 I agree with that as well, But that doesn't take 1676 01:23:05.960 --> 01:23:06.840 away from truth. 1677 01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:07.840 Right. 1678 01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:10.600 The truth is you know, it's like the apple of 1679 01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:13.079 the individual, you know what I mean, It's like it's 1680 01:23:13.439 --> 01:23:16.279 it's your truth. It's I don't know if it's the truth. 1681 01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:17.840 I mean not to say, like who am I to 1682 01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:19.880 say what the truth is? What I'm saying is is 1683 01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:21.760 that that is what you have accepted as truth. 1684 01:23:22.359 --> 01:23:24.000 But see, I disagree with that too, and we've had 1685 01:23:24.039 --> 01:23:27.840 this conversation. I don't believe in like subjective truths. I 1686 01:23:27.960 --> 01:23:31.279 believe in objective truths. It's like basketball. You can't if 1687 01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:33.159 you believe the ball went in the hoop, then it did. 1688 01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:35.600 I disagree with that. It either did or did not 1689 01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:38.199 go in the hoop both. You can't have one or 1690 01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:40.800 the other. And like there's no I'm not saying, oh, 1691 01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:43.640 it didn't go in the hoop, so you're an evil. No, no, no, 1692 01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:45.119 or it went in the hoop, so oh you're just 1693 01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:48.119 so righteous. Look that's a perspective thing, and I get that, 1694 01:23:48.840 --> 01:23:52.039 but you can't like take away from it being a 1695 01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:53.520 one or a zero on this. 1696 01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:58.720 But you already said that, like you already like you're saying, 1697 01:23:58.720 --> 01:24:00.720 it can't be subjective or up or it has to 1698 01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:02.000 be objective, like. 1699 01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:05.920 The ball went in the hoop or it didn't. Now 1700 01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:07.600 you could feel how you want to feel about it, 1701 01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:10.439 whether your team won, and that was the winning basket, 1702 01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:12.920 so you saw that as an inherent good, or that 1703 01:24:13.119 --> 01:24:15.119 basket made your team loose, so you saw it as 1704 01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:17.800 an inherent not good. Either way, the ball did or 1705 01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:19.560 did not go in the hoop. And that's a fact. 1706 01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:22.079 That's the truth that can't be changed based off of opinion. 1707 01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:26.079 Is it an objective truth that the entire world flooded 1708 01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:29.159 and a guy lived to be a thousand years old, 1709 01:24:29.199 --> 01:24:31.119 and he spent one hundred of those years building a 1710 01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:32.399 boat to prepare for it, and. 1711 01:24:32.479 --> 01:24:35.359 Then lived on that boat for over a year, and 1712 01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:38.359 you know all the animals and all that right, Like 1713 01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:41.880 that is you're telling me right now, you can stand there, 1714 01:24:42.079 --> 01:24:46.159 tell me, no, it's like that cannot be an objective truth. 1715 01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:47.720 You understand that. I believe that it is. 1716 01:24:47.840 --> 01:24:52.319 Yes, there's no proof, like that's the the whole brainwashing 1717 01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:55.399 of the whole thing, like that cannot be an objective truth, 1718 01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:56.319 it's impossible. 1719 01:24:56.840 --> 01:24:58.720 And then the whole thing about him living that long. 1720 01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:01.000 It's not like Noah is the the only person in 1721 01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:04.399 history that lived that long. There is tons of example, 1722 01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:10.119 secular examples Egyptian, uh Samerian, Mesopotamian, all having dudes that 1723 01:25:10.239 --> 01:25:14.000 lived thousands of years. It's not like that's a crazy 1724 01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:17.000 thing that no other culture has ever spoken about. So, 1725 01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:19.439 I mean, yeah, I personally think that that is a truth. 1726 01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:22.880 I understand why somebody would disagree with that, And I 1727 01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:25.319 don't think that you're dumb for disagreeing with it or 1728 01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:27.600 and I don't look down on anybody for disagreeing. 1729 01:25:27.800 --> 01:25:30.279 Let me just clarify real quick, and this is the 1730 01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:34.439 definition of an objective truth, just so we're all. We're 1731 01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:37.960 not confusing definitions here, because I don't think you get it. 1732 01:25:38.439 --> 01:25:43.159 An objective truth refers to facts or realities that are true, 1733 01:25:43.319 --> 01:25:46.439 regardless of individual beliefs or perceptions. 1734 01:25:46.760 --> 01:25:50.800 Meaning I just said that's what I literally said. The 1735 01:25:50.840 --> 01:25:53.479 basketball went in the hoop or it didn't, and then 1736 01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:55.520 you can feel whatever way you want about it, but 1737 01:25:55.600 --> 01:25:57.159 it doesn't change if it did or didn't go in 1738 01:25:57.199 --> 01:25:59.520 the hoop. Brother, Listen, you didn't even hear me finish it. 1739 01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:03.199 Meaning they can be verified and are consistent wait for 1740 01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:05.159 it for everyone. 1741 01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:06.479 Hmm. 1742 01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:10.720 So therefore, it cannot be an objective truth. Not everybody 1743 01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:13.520 agrees with it, it's not obvious to everybody. It can't 1744 01:26:13.560 --> 01:26:14.640 be objective. 1745 01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:18.079 Okay, fair, But I have a yes, I believe it 1746 01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:20.640 is a fact that Noah did go on the arc 1747 01:26:20.720 --> 01:26:23.119 and live that long. Hell, I know Christians, Tony one 1748 01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:24.920 of them, as a matter of fact, who doesn't believe 1749 01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:27.560 that that story actually happened. And that's why I'll think 1750 01:26:27.640 --> 01:26:31.119 I don't look down on him for thinking that Tony 1751 01:26:31.279 --> 01:26:34.159 has lived his life to construct his own opinions and 1752 01:26:34.239 --> 01:26:36.680 beliefs based off of it, and still finds truth within 1753 01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:38.960 the Bible, even if the Book of Genesis has some 1754 01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:40.760 stuff in it that he doesn't exactly get down with. 1755 01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:43.119 And that's fine. That is a hymn thing. 1756 01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:46.680 Just so we are clear an objective truth as the 1757 01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:49.239 synonym the synonym that you were trying to make as 1758 01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:50.880 a ball went in the hole or it didn't go 1759 01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:53.920 in the hole. Can we can Can you say out 1760 01:26:53.960 --> 01:26:58.439 loud that the biblical flood and Noah's ark is not 1761 01:26:58.920 --> 01:26:59.880 an objective truth? 1762 01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:04.680 Just yes or no? Okay, let me answer that question 1763 01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:08.520 with a question. All right, can you give me a 1764 01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:10.479 tree falls in the woods and no one's around to 1765 01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:12.920 hear it, Is it an objective truth that it made noise? 1766 01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:14.920 No? 1767 01:27:16.039 --> 01:27:20.199 It is. It is a guarantee that the tree made 1768 01:27:20.319 --> 01:27:22.119 noise even if no one was around to hear it. 1769 01:27:22.359 --> 01:27:25.680 But it depends, actually, because some people would say that 1770 01:27:25.920 --> 01:27:29.800 in you know, certain things need to be observed, sir. 1771 01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:32.119 That's what quantum physics is all about. 1772 01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:35.159 And I'm of the belief that whether somebody's around to 1773 01:27:35.239 --> 01:27:37.920 observe it or not, if a thing happened and you know, 1774 01:27:38.199 --> 01:27:40.920 that it was a loud thing. It doesn't matter if 1775 01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:41.960 somebody's around to hear it. 1776 01:27:42.279 --> 01:27:44.520 Yes, same with just remember like you just said it, 1777 01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:47.399 you're of the belief, so it's not a factual thing. 1778 01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:50.439 It's dude, Yes, a tree falling in the woods is 1779 01:27:50.520 --> 01:27:52.840 gonna make noise regardless if someone's around to hear it. 1780 01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:55.640 That's not even a belief, that's a fact. Okay, je 1781 01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:57.199 What does that have to do with the rice in 1782 01:27:57.319 --> 01:28:00.640 China at the price of tea in China? But okay, 1783 01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:02.800 So that's that's what I'm saying. As far as the 1784 01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:06.239 Noah thing goes, I understand why that is a crazy 1785 01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:09.319 story and why people would disagree with it and find 1786 01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:12.239 some faults within it. I get it. So not objective, right, 1787 01:28:13.079 --> 01:28:15.600 I believe it is an objective truth. Now we're just 1788 01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:18.840 changing we're just changing definitions now. So this do you 1789 01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:19.880 understand my frustration? 1790 01:28:20.479 --> 01:28:20.960 Like this is? 1791 01:28:21.159 --> 01:28:25.800 This is my frustration is whenever people say these crazy, astronomical, 1792 01:28:26.279 --> 01:28:30.880 miraculous things are objective truths, and yet I'm the crazy one. 1793 01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:34.079 That's that's where I'm the crazy one for saying. 1794 01:28:33.880 --> 01:28:37.119 That You're not crazy for asking questions. 1795 01:28:37.199 --> 01:28:40.000 Dude, No, no, no, I'm crazy for my beliefs, but like, 1796 01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:43.399 because Christians belief in objective truths. 1797 01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:47.439 That's what it's the frustration when your beliefs and this 1798 01:28:47.600 --> 01:28:51.159 is gonna this is gonna be in Cindy Heary. Now, No, 1799 01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:53.720 I'm gonna reword how I'm about to say that, because 1800 01:28:53.720 --> 01:28:58.560 that's that's gonna piss people all when the beliefs that 1801 01:28:58.720 --> 01:29:02.159 you hold to be true are based in feelings more 1802 01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:06.279 than reality. Yeah, I would say that that's a that's 1803 01:29:06.279 --> 01:29:08.920 a dynamic thing, that's a you thing, not just you jonk. 1804 01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:12.359 I'm saying like to the individual, if you believe that 1805 01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:15.439 certain things are true and those truths are only tied 1806 01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:18.319 to your feelings on the matter rather than the facts 1807 01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:20.199 of the matter, then yeah, that's a problem. 1808 01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:23.680 Well, and this is you know, kind of the argument 1809 01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:27.560 of the gnostics is that certain things will resonate because 1810 01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:30.359 it's not necessarily that you're seeing and learning something for 1811 01:29:30.399 --> 01:29:33.880 the first time. It's the gnostic idea is that you 1812 01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:37.920 are remembering. So it's a completely different ideology. And I 1813 01:29:38.039 --> 01:29:41.720 understand that, like the Gnostic understanding is not objective, and 1814 01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:44.600 I'm here to say that I'm not gnostic, but like 1815 01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:47.319 I vibe more with the gnostic stuff than I do 1816 01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:48.239 the literal stuff. 1817 01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:51.800 But you look at their creation story that they held 1818 01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:54.640 to be true. They hailed this to be a fact. 1819 01:29:54.920 --> 01:29:57.880 They didn't hold it to be a metaphor. I'm not gnostic. 1820 01:29:58.359 --> 01:30:00.479 So no, no, no, I'm not saying I'm saying the 1821 01:30:00.520 --> 01:30:04.319 Gnostics the one they themselves what they got down with. 1822 01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:06.720 And yes, we could talk about them with the children 1823 01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:10.279 or the sex or you know, the types of lifestyles 1824 01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:12.800 that they lived and how they basically just took little 1825 01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:14.399 bits of this and little bits of that and made 1826 01:30:14.439 --> 01:30:16.640 it their own thing. It was based off of their 1827 01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:19.640 feelings rather than the facts of the situation. So that's 1828 01:30:19.680 --> 01:30:20.199 a problem. 1829 01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:25.359 I'm, like I said, I'm impartial to it. I'm not gnostic. 1830 01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:28.039 I don't declare myself to be of anything. 1831 01:30:28.239 --> 01:30:30.359 But that's the point. I mean. 1832 01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:33.039 The point is is that just because somebody has some 1833 01:30:33.159 --> 01:30:36.479 crazy beliefs doesn't mean just because somebody has different beliefs 1834 01:30:36.720 --> 01:30:39.239 than you does not mean that it gives you the 1835 01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:41.439 right to go and murder them in God's name. 1836 01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:43.479 And that was the argument that I was bringing up 1837 01:30:43.479 --> 01:30:45.920 for the Cathars. Yeah, no, I agree, I agree that 1838 01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:48.680 you shouldn't kill somebody for their beliefs, especially in a 1839 01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:52.000 genocidal way. That's disgusting and that goes against the entire 1840 01:30:52.079 --> 01:30:54.279 premise of the book that you claim, not you, that 1841 01:30:54.399 --> 01:30:58.159 the Catholic Church claims that they held nearest and dearest. 1842 01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:02.119 But yeah, again, I cannot wait for the cathar episode. 1843 01:31:02.479 --> 01:31:04.119 It is going to be dope. All right. 1844 01:31:04.199 --> 01:31:07.319 We got a line of people waiting Ashton your thoughts there. 1845 01:31:09.159 --> 01:31:11.039 So the first thing I was gonna say, I just 1846 01:31:11.119 --> 01:31:13.880 want to skip over this quickly. Pretty sure when you 1847 01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:17.439 guys were talking about Aisha, Muhammad's wife, I'm pretty sure 1848 01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:23.920 her name is equivalent in Islam as Muhammad. For woman's names, 1849 01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:28.520 like women, female babies, they get named Ayisha just as 1850 01:31:28.600 --> 01:31:32.000 much as Muhamad. Correct me if I'm wrong. But as 1851 01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:34.479 far what I really wanted to say was, after you 1852 01:31:34.520 --> 01:31:39.319 guys went on that long one day, was I think religion, 1853 01:31:39.520 --> 01:31:45.479 as far as Western Abrahamic faiths go, it's an existential 1854 01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:49.159 pacifier for certain groups of people. I mean, I had 1855 01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:52.920 spiritual experiences in all three where I was shown like, oh, 1856 01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:55.880 that's why I'm not a believer in Judaism, That's why 1857 01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:58.359 I'm not a believer in Islam. That's why I'm more 1858 01:31:58.399 --> 01:32:01.800 aligned with the Christian even though I was raising it. 1859 01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:05.760 But now I'm looking into kashmir Shaivism, which is a 1860 01:32:05.920 --> 01:32:10.039 branch of Hinduism that I really resonate with. So I mean, 1861 01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:12.319 you can look at them all. They're all valid in 1862 01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:16.319 their own ways, but you don't have them in it. 1863 01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:20.000 I don't even know. It's more of a mystic branch. 1864 01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:22.800 And what I was also going to say was, even 1865 01:32:22.840 --> 01:32:29.640 though religion is more of an existential pacifier, they all 1866 01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:35.600 have mysticism within them. Judaism has Kabbalism, Christianity has gnosticism, 1867 01:32:35.800 --> 01:32:40.520 and Islam has Sufism, which I align more with those 1868 01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:42.560 three than religion. 1869 01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:43.239 Shot. 1870 01:32:44.479 --> 01:32:46.479 That's yeah, That's that's all I had on you. 1871 01:32:46.560 --> 01:32:47.439 Guys rant there. 1872 01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:52.680 But I mean Religi for me, religion bad, mysticism good. 1873 01:32:53.399 --> 01:32:55.159 And look, I think the moral of the story is 1874 01:32:55.560 --> 01:32:58.800 is that I don't think that anybody should have any 1875 01:32:58.920 --> 01:33:02.920 problem with with other people believing different from you. 1876 01:33:03.279 --> 01:33:05.640 The main issue, the main issue, I don't have a 1877 01:33:05.720 --> 01:33:06.600 problem with anyone. 1878 01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:11.399 The main issue is is whenever crazy people that believe 1879 01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:15.000 in crazy things are calling other crazy people believing another 1880 01:33:15.079 --> 01:33:18.239 crazy things crazy, right, Like, I give you an example, 1881 01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:21.840 I grew up my brother was a he was a 1882 01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:24.039 bit of a chubby one, okay, like he was a 1883 01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:27.600 chunky one. And his and my best friend, which was 1884 01:33:28.239 --> 01:33:31.600 my best friend's sister growing up. Her name was Lindsey, 1885 01:33:31.720 --> 01:33:33.399 not the Docks or anything like that, but anyway, she 1886 01:33:33.520 --> 01:33:36.079 was also a little chunky, right, And they used to 1887 01:33:36.279 --> 01:33:40.039 always call each other fatty all the time. Get away 1888 01:33:40.079 --> 01:33:41.920 from me, fatty, get out of here, fat ass. And 1889 01:33:41.960 --> 01:33:44.720 it was always hilarious to me because it's like, bro, 1890 01:33:44.960 --> 01:33:48.079 both of you can like lay off of the snacks, 1891 01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:50.880 both of you can afford to fast for a couple 1892 01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:53.479 of days, right, Like, neither one of you have the 1893 01:33:53.640 --> 01:33:56.359 right to call anybody fat, you know. 1894 01:33:56.520 --> 01:33:58.279 And that's that's kind of where I'm coming from. 1895 01:33:58.399 --> 01:34:01.039 When when you have certain relige, just people saying that 1896 01:34:01.159 --> 01:34:04.359 other religious beliefs are crazy, when it's like, man, look 1897 01:34:04.399 --> 01:34:06.640 at the mirror of what you believe, like you have 1898 01:34:06.800 --> 01:34:09.159 no right to be saying that anybody's crazy. And that 1899 01:34:09.399 --> 01:34:10.239 was my entire point. 1900 01:34:12.399 --> 01:34:17.600 Yeah, I mean, what who killed the mystics the religions themselves? Did? 1901 01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:21.640 I mean, these mystics were heretics and all eyes and 1902 01:34:23.439 --> 01:34:28.279 I wouldn't say cobblists, they're more just occulted. But Sufi's 1903 01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:32.680 were killed. Gnostics were killed in both Christianity and Islam. 1904 01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:36.680 I mean huch. It also kills me about the Kabbalists, 1905 01:34:36.720 --> 01:34:38.920 and I agree with you that they are occultists, and 1906 01:34:39.279 --> 01:34:44.399 they were of the Judaic religion. That being said, Deuteronomy 1907 01:34:44.520 --> 01:34:49.680 eighteen literally talks about occult practices. And that's tora. That's 1908 01:34:49.720 --> 01:34:52.720 not Christian, that is Jewish. I'll read it real quick. 1909 01:34:52.760 --> 01:34:56.000 Occult practice. Deuteronomy eighteen, verse nine. When you enter the 1910 01:34:56.079 --> 01:34:57.640 land of the Lord your God is giving you, do 1911 01:34:57.760 --> 01:35:02.000 not learn to imitate or the detestable ways of the nations. There. 1912 01:35:02.399 --> 01:35:04.960 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their 1913 01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:08.359 son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, 1914 01:35:08.479 --> 01:35:12.319 interprets omens, engages in witchcraft or cast spells, or who 1915 01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:16.119 is a medium or spiraitists, or who consults with the dead. 1916 01:35:16.399 --> 01:35:18.760 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord. 1917 01:35:19.159 --> 01:35:21.680 Because of these same detestable practices, the Lord your God 1918 01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:24.239 will drive out those nations before you. You must be 1919 01:35:24.319 --> 01:35:27.399 blameless before the Lord your God. Now that is Deuteronomy, 1920 01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:30.680 that's Old Testament that's tora. So why in the fuck 1921 01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:33.319 do the Jews do the cobb bal a thing which 1922 01:35:33.479 --> 01:35:36.760 is Jewish occultism when their own torra says not to 1923 01:35:36.840 --> 01:35:38.880 fuck with the occult It makes no sense to me, 1924 01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:41.439 bro And I'm not saying that to shit on Judaism. 1925 01:35:41.520 --> 01:35:43.840 I'm saying that just in general, it makes no sense. 1926 01:35:43.920 --> 01:35:45.840 To be fair, I don't think so. 1927 01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:47.800 And we've talked about this before about how kind of 1928 01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:51.319 like Secret Society seemed to be not so much of 1929 01:35:51.399 --> 01:35:52.279 a big thing anymore. 1930 01:35:52.359 --> 01:35:54.079 They're starting to lose a lot of their members. 1931 01:35:54.119 --> 01:35:55.760 And I can't say so much for the Kabalists, but 1932 01:35:55.840 --> 01:35:59.000 for the Freemasons, they seem to be running out right. 1933 01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:01.920 Which they are Cobblis, but yes, continue right right. 1934 01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:04.600 And my point is is that everything is available on 1935 01:36:04.680 --> 01:36:08.199 the internet nowadays, Like you can find all of the teachings, 1936 01:36:08.239 --> 01:36:10.079 you can find the Gnostic teachings, you can find the 1937 01:36:10.159 --> 01:36:13.279 Kabbalist teachings, you can find the the Sufi teachings. 1938 01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:16.399 All of these, all of them, like, it is all 1939 01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:17.359 available on the internet. 1940 01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:20.520 So to even call anything a cult anymore, I don't 1941 01:36:20.520 --> 01:36:24.279 even know if that's the correct term, because something that 1942 01:36:24.439 --> 01:36:26.600 is a cult is covered like you can't get to 1943 01:36:26.720 --> 01:36:28.239 that information, like it's. 1944 01:36:28.800 --> 01:36:32.920 Covered two hundred years ago. The Internet made things uncovered, right, 1945 01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:36.880 That's that's what I'm saying. Like now, right now, every 1946 01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:42.479 single like secret society, brotherhood teaching, you can, everybody can 1947 01:36:42.520 --> 01:36:42.840 find it. 1948 01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:45.760 Like it's not a secret anymore. So to even call 1949 01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:48.279 it a secret society, like, yeah, maybe whenever the book 1950 01:36:48.359 --> 01:36:50.239 was written, it was all secret societies and it was 1951 01:36:50.279 --> 01:36:53.640 all hidden, and yeah, they were probably going wrong according 1952 01:36:53.720 --> 01:36:57.279 to the Bible, oh, especially according to the Old Testament, right, 1953 01:36:57.319 --> 01:37:01.960 but like nowadays, I mean, if you don't understand Cobbalism 1954 01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:03.840 and you're looking at it like it's evil, it's like 1955 01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:07.359 you have access to go and look at what it says, 1956 01:37:07.880 --> 01:37:10.159 like it's it's not a secret anymore. 1957 01:37:10.800 --> 01:37:12.680 I mean even in the New Testament it talks about 1958 01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:15.359 let the secret societies, if it's done in the dark, 1959 01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:17.520 let it be brought to light, like it's it's shitting 1960 01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:20.199 on the secret societies and the cults, and it has 1961 01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:24.520 been drawn to light exactly, but it's that's the reason 1962 01:37:24.560 --> 01:37:25.840 for it being brought to light was so that it 1963 01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:28.560 could be judged by the public, and that that's the 1964 01:37:28.600 --> 01:37:30.840 whole point. So I mean to your point, Yeah, I 1965 01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:34.359 guess calling it still a cult meaning hidden, I guess 1966 01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:36.720 that is like a bit of a misnomer these days. 1967 01:37:36.720 --> 01:37:38.439 But if it wasn't for the invention of the internet, 1968 01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:41.319 that wouldn't be true either. That's more of a recent 1969 01:37:41.399 --> 01:37:41.760 thing now. 1970 01:37:41.800 --> 01:37:45.199 That doesn't necessarily mean that, like, like you know, Freemasons 1971 01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:48.880 are still practicing in buildings without windows, right, like, so 1972 01:37:49.039 --> 01:37:51.600 it's still not out in the open. But I mean, 1973 01:37:52.439 --> 01:37:55.039 I don't know, is a your bedtime prayer isn't not 1974 01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:55.439 in the open? 1975 01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:55.640 Is that? 1976 01:37:55.920 --> 01:37:56.479 Is that a cult? 1977 01:37:57.119 --> 01:37:57.279 You know? 1978 01:37:57.560 --> 01:38:01.640 I mean, oh, I see what you're saying. I mean 1979 01:38:01.720 --> 01:38:04.319 it could be. Personally, I wouldn't mind if my prayers 1980 01:38:04.399 --> 01:38:07.279 like made it to the world. But I get no, 1981 01:38:07.399 --> 01:38:09.359 because I guess that there's something that is really weighing 1982 01:38:09.399 --> 01:38:11.239 on my heart that's like a super personal thing. I 1983 01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:13.640 don't want that to be brought to the public's eye. 1984 01:38:13.880 --> 01:38:16.239 Ye objectively, you know. 1985 01:38:16.439 --> 01:38:23.720 Yeah, uh, it isn't. King Solomon completely contradictory to that 1986 01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:25.960 passage in Deuteronomy. 1987 01:38:25.760 --> 01:38:29.520 Which is why he lost his seat of power, you're correct, 1988 01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:31.600 which is why in the last few years of his 1989 01:38:31.720 --> 01:38:33.119 life he got built. 1990 01:38:33.920 --> 01:38:36.279 And he I mean, the Lord let him do all 1991 01:38:36.319 --> 01:38:38.600 that stuff. So essentially he's just a tool of the 1992 01:38:38.680 --> 01:38:41.239 Lord in order to work out the Lord's plan. 1993 01:38:41.359 --> 01:38:46.760 In that sense, everybody has free will, and even the 1994 01:38:46.840 --> 01:38:49.920 heroes of the Bible. Fuck. David was seen as one 1995 01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:53.079 of the greatest heroes of Bible, and they have so 1996 01:38:53.359 --> 01:38:57.239 many examples of him fucking up. Like, yeah, nobody's perfect 1997 01:38:57.279 --> 01:38:59.720 and I get that. But also Solomon was putting the 1998 01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:03.800 position of power for a reason. Even after God told 1999 01:39:03.880 --> 01:39:06.199 his people that you don't need a king, they still 2000 01:39:06.359 --> 01:39:08.119 was like, oh, we need a king, but bae ba. 2001 01:39:08.479 --> 01:39:10.680 So they show Solomon and he did well for years 2002 01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:13.439 in your years, and then he lost his goddamn mind 2003 01:39:13.479 --> 01:39:15.319 and was cursed because of it. It's like, yeah, he 2004 01:39:15.479 --> 01:39:18.880 contradicted the word of God and paid the price for it. 2005 01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:24.119 You know what's really slept on my bed. 2006 01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:32.399 Replacements for ice cubes as frozen strawberries, slept on big times. 2007 01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:37.239 I'll end it, Dougie Blumkin. 2008 01:39:37.720 --> 01:39:40.239 You know you never just you can't outrun the blunkin dude. 2009 01:39:42.840 --> 01:39:45.279 First of all, Jonathan, you need to take four deep 2010 01:39:45.319 --> 01:39:49.680 breaths and say goosed fra bah balm down, brother, You're 2011 01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:52.720 gonna have a stroke. Jacob. He might be possessed or 2012 01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:54.680 he could have rabies. It kind of it's hard to 2013 01:39:54.760 --> 01:39:57.479 tell right now. Could be both, dude, it could be both. 2014 01:39:57.920 --> 01:40:03.119 Now to reignite your your flame, Jonathan. Before when you 2015 01:40:03.199 --> 01:40:05.680 guys were talking about the moose Lambs and the nine 2016 01:40:05.800 --> 01:40:08.640 year old, it made me think about how old was 2017 01:40:08.720 --> 01:40:12.079 the Virgin Mary, and she was supposed to be like 2018 01:40:12.159 --> 01:40:15.760 a preteen, I think, between preteen and early teens. 2019 01:40:16.880 --> 01:40:20.000 I thought she was thirteen, thirteen, fourteen, something like that, 2020 01:40:20.119 --> 01:40:23.079 which is marrying age for that tribe in that time 2021 01:40:23.119 --> 01:40:23.479 and age. 2022 01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:26.439 That's a little bit young. I mean, at least it's 2023 01:40:26.479 --> 01:40:29.039 older than nine. But I feel like that's pretty young. 2024 01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:32.199 I agree. But in the Jewish religion, keep in mind, 2025 01:40:32.279 --> 01:40:35.239 bar Mitzva's happened at thirteen, you're seen as an adult 2026 01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:38.600 at thirteen. Interestational thing. 2027 01:40:39.159 --> 01:40:42.479 Interestingly enough, I feel like all the depictions of Mary 2028 01:40:42.600 --> 01:40:45.880 that I see, she's always an adult though. I mean, 2029 01:40:45.960 --> 01:40:48.840 when Jesus was crucified, she was an adult, but they 2030 01:40:48.960 --> 01:40:52.279 never show her as like a child, probably for a reason. 2031 01:40:53.039 --> 01:40:55.319 I mean, I just it says Mary was likely to 2032 01:40:55.399 --> 01:40:59.680 be around twelve to fourteen years old. So although you know, 2033 01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:03.520 and I guess, fuck it. If we're burning shit down, let's. 2034 01:41:03.319 --> 01:41:03.760 Burn it down. 2035 01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:11.399 Who's fraba? I think that that people are celebrating the 2036 01:41:11.439 --> 01:41:12.800 wrong Mary personally. 2037 01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:18.319 They think they should be celebrating which Mary, the one 2038 01:41:18.359 --> 01:41:22.600 that is considered a whoror Okay, Mary Magdalene wasn't a whore, 2039 01:41:22.680 --> 01:41:26.840 for the record, that's a misnomer. She was possessed by demons. 2040 01:41:27.119 --> 01:41:29.199 She wasn't the whore with the whole cast the First 2041 01:41:29.239 --> 01:41:30.039 Stone conversation. 2042 01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:33.239 It's interesting how like that story changed because if you 2043 01:41:33.720 --> 01:41:35.199 I don't know, and this is the this is the 2044 01:41:35.800 --> 01:41:38.399 hard part about it. It's like, who do you believe 2045 01:41:38.600 --> 01:41:41.319 as far as what is really true about who was 2046 01:41:41.439 --> 01:41:44.479 Jesus actually the closest to because there are some sex 2047 01:41:44.600 --> 01:41:46.960 that will say that Jesus and Mary were like fucking 2048 01:41:47.079 --> 01:41:49.520 super intertwined that you had, you know, some of his 2049 01:41:49.640 --> 01:41:51.760 apostles were like super jealous of them. They were like, 2050 01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:54.359 why are you like talking to her about that? Like 2051 01:41:54.439 --> 01:41:56.920 you need to be teaching us. And it was understood, 2052 01:41:57.039 --> 01:42:00.800 at least from from my perspective, that like Mary knew 2053 01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:05.960 more than his homies, right, the ones that had backed 2054 01:42:06.039 --> 01:42:09.279 him up then the entire way, And so for the 2055 01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:12.079 Catholic Church and everybody else afterward, and even in the Bible, 2056 01:42:12.119 --> 01:42:13.800 for it to call it a whore, or for them 2057 01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:16.680 to call her a whore is like, man, like, what 2058 01:42:16.840 --> 01:42:18.239 narrative they're really trying to push there. 2059 01:42:18.920 --> 01:42:22.319 So if you read the Bible that talks about Mary Magdalen, 2060 01:42:22.359 --> 01:42:25.600 if you look at these sections, never one time in 2061 01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:29.279 the Bible was she mentioned to be a whore. She 2062 01:42:29.479 --> 01:42:33.159 gets misrepresented as the one that the people brought up 2063 01:42:33.159 --> 01:42:34.720 and said, look, we caught this woman in the act 2064 01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:37.039 of adultery, we should stone her, and everybody's like, that's 2065 01:42:37.079 --> 01:42:41.720 Mary Magdalene. It's it's not though, right. Mary Magdalene was 2066 01:42:41.760 --> 01:42:45.600 possessed by demons in Copernaum, if I'm not mistaken, and 2067 01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:48.800 even Nicodemus had an attempt to try to relieve her 2068 01:42:48.880 --> 01:42:52.439 of her demonic possession and failed. Jesus took the demons 2069 01:42:52.479 --> 01:42:55.880 from her, and she became one of his most devout disciples. 2070 01:42:55.920 --> 01:42:59.760 Now that being said, wasn't even at the Last Supper. 2071 01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:03.239 So yes, her and Jesus were super close as well 2072 01:43:03.319 --> 01:43:06.800 as him with all of his other disciples. But the apostles, 2073 01:43:07.199 --> 01:43:11.119 the twelve that were at the Last Supper, Mary wasn't 2074 01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:12.359 a part of that. As a matter of fact, she 2075 01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:16.720 and his mom and the sisters of Lazarus were all 2076 01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:19.760 asked to leave the city prior to him being arrested. 2077 01:43:20.279 --> 01:43:23.279 There's a reason for this. So again, we shouldn't be 2078 01:43:23.680 --> 01:43:27.840 worshiping either Mary. Now, I will say this, I think 2079 01:43:27.880 --> 01:43:32.000 that the Protestants should be a lot more kind in 2080 01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:36.159 the veneration of the Virgin Mary. Just speaking, I don't 2081 01:43:36.199 --> 01:43:38.079 believe that we should pray to her. I think that 2082 01:43:38.199 --> 01:43:42.319 that is a form of I was gonna say polygamy. 2083 01:43:42.399 --> 01:43:46.079 That's not the word. Uh well, idolatry. I was gonna 2084 01:43:46.079 --> 01:43:47.239 say polytheism. 2085 01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:47.840 Right. 2086 01:43:47.920 --> 01:43:50.479 I don't believe that we should be praying to angels. 2087 01:43:50.520 --> 01:43:52.600 I don't believe that we should be praying to Mary. 2088 01:43:52.720 --> 01:43:56.199 I don't believe that we should be praying to Since personally, 2089 01:43:56.439 --> 01:43:58.760 just of my opinion, based off of my research into 2090 01:43:58.840 --> 01:44:01.920 the Holy Book, we should be worshiping God in Jesus. 2091 01:44:02.039 --> 01:44:04.199 We should not be We should hold these people in 2092 01:44:04.319 --> 01:44:08.840 high respect and in high regard. Yes, and the Virgin Mother, 2093 01:44:09.039 --> 01:44:10.840 we shouldn't be taking her just oh well, you know, 2094 01:44:10.920 --> 01:44:13.720 she just did a thing. Her womb is literally the 2095 01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:16.800 arc of the New Covenant, like we should be throwing 2096 01:44:16.880 --> 01:44:19.960 some mad respect on her name, and for some reason 2097 01:44:20.039 --> 01:44:22.479 the Protestants just fucking cast her aside, like oh, well, 2098 01:44:22.520 --> 01:44:24.079 you know, she did a thing, but she's not important, 2099 01:44:24.119 --> 01:44:26.560 Like no, no, no, Without her, we wouldn't have gotten Jesus, dude, 2100 01:44:27.159 --> 01:44:27.960 Like do you want to hear? 2101 01:44:28.239 --> 01:44:30.800 Like a really interesting way of looking at that. And 2102 01:44:31.279 --> 01:44:33.399 this is just the Gnostic way of looking at it, 2103 01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:39.039 so don't fry me. The idea that Jesus's mother was 2104 01:44:39.479 --> 01:44:43.840 a virgin. They believe that that actually stems from Jesus 2105 01:44:44.159 --> 01:44:47.159 was born again because he was baptized, right, and therefore 2106 01:44:47.439 --> 01:44:50.479 like he was, that he was brought into the world 2107 01:44:50.640 --> 01:44:54.000 without sex. Like that's the literally how they interpret it, 2108 01:44:54.319 --> 01:44:56.960 is that you're brought into the world without sex, without 2109 01:44:57.039 --> 01:45:00.600 all of that disgusting behavior or whatever, right, and so 2110 01:45:01.279 --> 01:45:05.079 in essence, the mother would be a virgin because he's 2111 01:45:05.119 --> 01:45:07.760 born again without without procreation. 2112 01:45:08.640 --> 01:45:11.159 But then they also thought that baptism and water was 2113 01:45:11.279 --> 01:45:15.960 evil because water is physical and everything physical was created 2114 01:45:15.960 --> 01:45:22.520 by the demiurge, I mean, right, disagree with it? Huh? 2115 01:45:22.640 --> 01:45:25.600 I can't wholeheartedly disagree with it, I can't. 2116 01:45:26.039 --> 01:45:30.239 I think that's ridiculous. Not just even because it's water baptism. 2117 01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:33.680 You're basically saying everything in the physical world is inherently 2118 01:45:33.800 --> 01:45:35.159 evil because it's physical. 2119 01:45:35.359 --> 01:45:39.880 It's a they believe, like like the Platonists believe, is 2120 01:45:39.960 --> 01:45:42.840 that this is the farthest emanation from the true source, 2121 01:45:43.159 --> 01:45:46.479 which I mean even God would say that, like, yeah, 2122 01:45:46.600 --> 01:45:48.680 this is not the place, This is not Heaven, like 2123 01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:52.119 this is this is a this is nothing compared to 2124 01:45:52.239 --> 01:45:54.479 what you're going to get in heaven. The idea would 2125 01:45:54.520 --> 01:45:57.520 be that everything in heaven is perfect, everything down here 2126 01:45:57.680 --> 01:46:01.399 is is imperfect. So by that kind a standard, I mean, 2127 01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:06.319 this would be the lesser of all realities. And so 2128 01:46:06.359 --> 01:46:08.560 if you're looking at it as the lesser of all realities, 2129 01:46:08.640 --> 01:46:13.079 then then I guess everything around here is sinful in 2130 01:46:13.199 --> 01:46:13.680 that sense. 2131 01:46:14.279 --> 01:46:16.680 I wouldn't say that this is all imperfect, dude. I'm 2132 01:46:16.680 --> 01:46:19.520 saying that, Yeah, people might be imperfect, but that doesn't 2133 01:46:19.520 --> 01:46:22.439 make the earth imperfect, that doesn't make the mountains imperfect, 2134 01:46:22.520 --> 01:46:24.000 that doesn't make the ocean imperfect. 2135 01:46:24.479 --> 01:46:26.600 Well, I mean, it's to say that the entire of 2136 01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:31.279 all physical creation is imperfect because it is a it's 2137 01:46:31.399 --> 01:46:32.840 like great value Heaven. 2138 01:46:33.840 --> 01:46:36.720 No, I don't believe that this is Heaven by any means. 2139 01:46:36.760 --> 01:46:38.439 But I also don't think this is the furthest thing 2140 01:46:38.520 --> 01:46:42.479 from heaven. What would be the longest huh, what. 2141 01:46:42.560 --> 01:46:45.920 Would be the furthest like physical reality from heaven? 2142 01:46:46.720 --> 01:46:50.600 Hell? Well, that's not a physical reality, no, but I 2143 01:46:50.640 --> 01:46:53.119 do believe it's a place, right like Heaven is not 2144 01:46:53.199 --> 01:46:55.680 a physical reality, right, But I do believe it is 2145 01:46:55.720 --> 01:47:00.039 a place where though well where Indeed, Jonathan. 2146 01:47:00.159 --> 01:47:04.199 Norwegian there's a town called Hell in Noway? 2147 01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:07.239 I mean yes, And I've passed through a couple of 2148 01:47:07.359 --> 01:47:10.039 heavens that are the city of a couple of times 2149 01:47:10.079 --> 01:47:12.479 in my life too. But that doesn't that's a side tangent. 2150 01:47:12.760 --> 01:47:15.279 What I'm saying is that, yeah, this Earth is physical. 2151 01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:18.479 It is not Heaven. It is certainly not Hell. I 2152 01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:20.720 think that this would be the place where we get 2153 01:47:20.760 --> 01:47:22.800 to decide where we go to after the fact I 2154 01:47:22.880 --> 01:47:24.920 think we all came from I think source. 2155 01:47:25.079 --> 01:47:28.399 The idea is is that there is no actual proof 2156 01:47:28.600 --> 01:47:31.279 of Hell, and if you were trying to describe what 2157 01:47:31.560 --> 01:47:34.560 Hell would be, this would be the closest thing to 2158 01:47:34.800 --> 01:47:38.439 reality that you would be able to describe as Hell. Also, conversely, 2159 01:47:38.479 --> 01:47:40.439 it's the closest thing we can describe to as heaven, 2160 01:47:40.479 --> 01:47:42.640 because there is no physical proof of that either. So 2161 01:47:42.960 --> 01:47:45.960 as far as we know, this is the only emanation, right, 2162 01:47:46.039 --> 01:47:47.720 like if you're just looking at it kind of objectively 2163 01:47:47.880 --> 01:47:48.079 like that. 2164 01:47:48.760 --> 01:47:50.680 Right, and there's something to be said for that. But 2165 01:47:50.800 --> 01:47:54.960 that with that being said, this can't be both. It 2166 01:47:55.079 --> 01:47:58.039 can't be this. This is hell and we're all going 2167 01:47:58.119 --> 01:48:00.319 to die and go to heaven, and it's also can't 2168 01:48:00.319 --> 01:48:03.399 be heaven because there's so much imperfection around us. So 2169 01:48:04.239 --> 01:48:06.920 that's my point. All evidence would lead to this not 2170 01:48:07.119 --> 01:48:09.600 being either or. But I am still of the belief 2171 01:48:09.640 --> 01:48:12.880 that those two places do exist. Yeah, maybe, I mean 2172 01:48:13.159 --> 01:48:15.239 you have to take it on a you know, it's 2173 01:48:15.319 --> 01:48:18.039 on faith, of course. You know, there's never been any 2174 01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:20.800 kind of physical proof for heaven or hell. But that's 2175 01:48:20.840 --> 01:48:22.640 why I like to look at it from a philosophical 2176 01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:25.800 point that I think that this place can be heaven 2177 01:48:25.960 --> 01:48:29.119 or hell no matter like, depending on it's through the 2178 01:48:29.199 --> 01:48:32.159 perspective of the individual, you know, like if you're having 2179 01:48:32.199 --> 01:48:35.680 a terrible day and God forbids something horrible happens, like 2180 01:48:36.640 --> 01:48:40.680 you're living in hell. Anybody who's ever like witnessed depression, 2181 01:48:40.720 --> 01:48:42.720 which I feel like just about every human has gone 2182 01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:45.520 through some form of depression, right, Like that is hell? 2183 01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:46.039 Right? 2184 01:48:46.119 --> 01:48:49.760 And and conversely like whenever, I mean, you can't say no, 2185 01:48:49.960 --> 01:48:53.159 because there's no physical proof of Hell outside of just 2186 01:48:53.439 --> 01:48:55.399 a belief and faith. What I'm trying to say is 2187 01:48:55.479 --> 01:48:59.520 is that if if this place is kind of a 2188 01:48:59.800 --> 01:49:03.079 co of the two, it would make sense that people have, 2189 01:49:03.600 --> 01:49:06.159 you know, kind of lived through heaven and Hell before. 2190 01:49:06.960 --> 01:49:10.039 Dude. Even that being said, even when you are dealing 2191 01:49:10.119 --> 01:49:13.039 with the deepest type of depression and you are absolutely 2192 01:49:13.520 --> 01:49:15.560 you would say I am living in Hell right now, 2193 01:49:16.319 --> 01:49:18.800 there is still beauty to be found everywhere. There is 2194 01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:21.880 still God's presence around you. I believe that Hell is 2195 01:49:21.920 --> 01:49:25.680 a place where God's presence does not exist. And I 2196 01:49:25.720 --> 01:49:28.319 don't believe that depression means that you're out of God's grace. 2197 01:49:28.720 --> 01:49:31.760 That's belief I'm talking about, like what's in reality, right, 2198 01:49:31.840 --> 01:49:34.359 And in reality, like even when you are going through 2199 01:49:34.439 --> 01:49:37.640 what some might call hell, there is still a way out. 2200 01:49:38.680 --> 01:49:40.920 Hell is not a place there's a way out of allegedly, 2201 01:49:41.119 --> 01:49:45.680 no proof of that. Okay, that's the I mean, dare 2202 01:49:45.760 --> 01:49:47.520 I say the forbidden word, the myth? 2203 01:49:50.399 --> 01:49:53.159 But anyway, Look, we are really slacking on these episodes, dude, 2204 01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:58.039 on these episodes. On the comments. Damn, we've been going 2205 01:49:58.079 --> 01:50:00.479 on some tangents tonight. Sorry about that, everybody. Hopefully it's 2206 01:50:00.520 --> 01:50:01.439 not boring to you. 2207 01:50:02.520 --> 01:50:06.239 Doug says, referencing episode nine to eleven. Please remember to 2208 01:50:06.279 --> 01:50:11.279 each your twarded children first, and for the record, whenever 2209 01:50:11.359 --> 01:50:15.000 I said that about Greta Thumberg, Okay, I have a 2210 01:50:15.079 --> 01:50:17.920 lot of people in my in my close vicinity that 2211 01:50:18.079 --> 01:50:21.079 are autistic. Fuck, I was an infantry marine. Okay. If 2212 01:50:21.119 --> 01:50:25.039 I offended somebody by saying something negative towards the ass 2213 01:50:25.159 --> 01:50:30.520 Berger's autism spectrum group, please understand that it was satire. Okay, 2214 01:50:30.680 --> 01:50:33.359 But yeah, I still think that she's fucking retarded. 2215 01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:39.479 Yeah you mean like nineties retarded. Yeah, yeah, like nineties gay, 2216 01:50:39.600 --> 01:50:40.720 nineties retarded, that whole thing. 2217 01:50:41.039 --> 01:50:45.479 Her parents are probably cousins. Yeah, well, I don't think 2218 01:50:45.520 --> 01:50:47.439 that that is anything to do with an Asperger's I 2219 01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:49.760 think that that just happens to be a side tangent fact. 2220 01:50:49.840 --> 01:50:51.039 But I could be so wrong. 2221 01:50:51.239 --> 01:50:58.159 I haven't looked at yougt No, he took alcohol, Yeah, 2222 01:50:58.239 --> 01:50:59.439 fucked up her. 2223 01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:03.279 Gretat Thumberg's mom should be the poster child for Chiland all. 2224 01:51:03.439 --> 01:51:06.680 Oh Jesus, you know, and like, how do you apologize 2225 01:51:06.760 --> 01:51:09.319 and then like continue Like that doesn't make. 2226 01:51:09.199 --> 01:51:11.920 Any sense because fuck Greta anyway. 2227 01:51:11.640 --> 01:51:15.640 No, Ashton said, madd In two thousand and five is 2228 01:51:15.680 --> 01:51:17.239 the goat. I agree, that was one of the best 2229 01:51:17.279 --> 01:51:20.640 of all time. Midnight Kong said, it's okay to be 2230 01:51:20.720 --> 01:51:21.560 that crazy uncle. 2231 01:51:21.640 --> 01:51:24.439 We all have one. Fuck yeah, and I'm proud that 2232 01:51:24.520 --> 01:51:28.720 I'm my family's crazy uncle. Yeah. Same here. Ummmmm. 2233 01:51:29.479 --> 01:51:32.239 Just scrolling down, Alex had said, now that Jonathan is 2234 01:51:32.279 --> 01:51:34.079 on the West coast, y'all doing a meetup on this 2235 01:51:34.199 --> 01:51:34.920 side of the country. 2236 01:51:36.359 --> 01:51:37.159 I'm not opposed to it. 2237 01:51:37.359 --> 01:51:39.520 I mean, yeah, I'd be interested. 2238 01:51:39.640 --> 01:51:40.560 Actually, uh, we were. 2239 01:51:41.039 --> 01:51:42.760 There's a couple of people that I was playing on 2240 01:51:43.439 --> 01:51:46.640 getting together and meeting up with in Sedona, So that 2241 01:51:46.680 --> 01:51:48.920 would be a fun little thing. Maybe we can get 2242 01:51:49.079 --> 01:51:51.680 like a little airbnbs type situation and. 2243 01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:54.119 Little ce five experienced dog. 2244 01:51:54.479 --> 01:51:56.359 Just fucking overdose on mushrooms all night. 2245 01:51:56.439 --> 01:51:56.640 Dude. 2246 01:51:56.960 --> 01:52:00.199 Let's go fuck a little little group dmt sessh see 2247 01:52:00.239 --> 01:52:02.079 the orbs bring Nick out for the fuck of it. 2248 01:52:02.199 --> 01:52:02.880 This sounds great. 2249 01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:06.239 I want to turn into Terrence McKenna for a night. Yeah, 2250 01:52:06.359 --> 01:52:08.560 Oh the love of God, they're just gonna get weirder 2251 01:52:08.680 --> 01:52:13.680 and weirder. Pop Goes the Weasel said, we are all slaves. 2252 01:52:13.720 --> 01:52:16.920 I agree. Also, Pop Goes the Weasel love your beautiful 2253 01:52:16.960 --> 01:52:19.399 badass shirt, just towing it out. Yeah. 2254 01:52:20.079 --> 01:52:20.159 Uh. 2255 01:52:20.399 --> 01:52:22.520 Spirit Animal said, just because I grow facial hair like 2256 01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:23.960 a thirteen year old, don't mean. 2257 01:52:23.960 --> 01:52:27.720 I am hey. Look, just take the boyish good looks 2258 01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:29.520 for as long as they would do you justice. 2259 01:52:32.279 --> 01:52:35.039 Consude that I am louis the spitting image of my 2260 01:52:35.760 --> 01:52:37.039 uh Asian grandfather. 2261 01:52:38.079 --> 01:52:40.920 I'm gonna be boyish good looks well into my sixties. 2262 01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:44.600 So bless Spirit Animal is our Bobby Lee. 2263 01:52:45.920 --> 01:52:50.000 Oh god, hey, they did say they were looking for 2264 01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:51.640 Confederate Asian and. 2265 01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:52.960 I am a Southern boy. 2266 01:52:53.239 --> 01:52:53.720 Oh god. 2267 01:52:53.880 --> 01:52:58.239 Oh yep, Tony a joke, I know, I know. 2268 01:52:58.600 --> 01:53:01.239 Tony said, sure, the Bible and Karan assume the earth 2269 01:53:01.359 --> 01:53:03.600 is flat. That is just what they believed at the time. 2270 01:53:03.680 --> 01:53:04.399 And they were wrong. 2271 01:53:05.800 --> 01:53:09.640 Yeah, which is what they believed at the time, So 2272 01:53:09.960 --> 01:53:11.760 it's not that crazy to say that. It would be 2273 01:53:11.800 --> 01:53:13.239 in the Bible if you're to take it literal. 2274 01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:16.439 I mean again, you could go back to the ancient 2275 01:53:16.560 --> 01:53:19.000 sources and they were arguing whether the Earth was round 2276 01:53:19.159 --> 01:53:23.680 or flat in the BC era. That's been an argument 2277 01:53:23.760 --> 01:53:24.880 for a long time. 2278 01:53:25.239 --> 01:53:28.640 So I mean, hey, you know, anytime somebody says era, 2279 01:53:28.800 --> 01:53:32.560 I just think of Jmac from Trailer Park Boys every time. 2280 01:53:32.920 --> 01:53:36.640 Okay, he's ancient Greece was arguing over this. Ancient Egypt 2281 01:53:36.800 --> 01:53:39.279 was arguing over this, Ancient Rome was arguing over this. 2282 01:53:39.479 --> 01:53:41.479 It's just one of those things. 2283 01:53:42.880 --> 01:53:46.159 Tony said, there is no firmament. Water evaporates from the ocean, 2284 01:53:46.239 --> 01:53:49.199 then condenses and falls. God didn't say the Earth is flat. 2285 01:53:49.279 --> 01:53:52.479 People speaking on his behalf or pretending to did say 2286 01:53:52.479 --> 01:53:53.319 the Earth was flat. 2287 01:53:53.680 --> 01:53:54.079 Agreed. 2288 01:53:55.800 --> 01:53:58.880 Doug said, everyone looking for pickle. There's a Christmas game. 2289 01:53:58.960 --> 01:54:01.520 My family didn't play. Uh didn't play it, but I 2290 01:54:01.720 --> 01:54:03.960 know some people that hide a pickle in a tree. 2291 01:54:04.039 --> 01:54:05.840 We need to find pickle as anyone ever checked the 2292 01:54:05.840 --> 01:54:08.800 evergreen trees. Dude, Yeah, I played the pickle game too. 2293 01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:11.399 It's a fun one. Oh we never did that. 2294 01:54:11.680 --> 01:54:12.119 We have a. 2295 01:54:13.600 --> 01:54:15.800 My family's got a different kind of tradition. There's a 2296 01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:20.720 there's a rubber dog shit that gets regifted every year, 2297 01:54:21.079 --> 01:54:22.439 and it's like a big thing. There's like a whole 2298 01:54:22.479 --> 01:54:25.319 shadow box that's been made and it's just it's rubber 2299 01:54:25.359 --> 01:54:27.279 dog poop, you know what I mean. And it's it's 2300 01:54:27.560 --> 01:54:30.880 so stupid. But it's like, who's gonna get that this year? 2301 01:54:31.039 --> 01:54:32.880 And you get they started off as like a secret 2302 01:54:32.920 --> 01:54:35.399 Santa type of gift, and now it's just become like 2303 01:54:35.560 --> 01:54:38.319 a thing to just get bestowed upon you and next 2304 01:54:38.399 --> 01:54:39.600 year you have to wrap it and give it to 2305 01:54:39.680 --> 01:54:41.079 somebody else. And it's that kind of thing. 2306 01:54:41.640 --> 01:54:45.079 Yeah, Doug said Jonathan. Forget the four Elements. We love 2307 01:54:45.119 --> 01:54:46.439 the Fifth Element, but. 2308 01:54:47.920 --> 01:54:49.640 I do love the Fifth Element. That's one of the 2309 01:54:49.680 --> 01:54:50.680 greatest movies of all time. 2310 01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:53.279 Yes, it is, although the fifth Element would be the best. 2311 01:54:53.319 --> 01:54:56.800 It is the ether or love according to the movie. 2312 01:54:57.800 --> 01:54:58.199 I guess so. 2313 01:54:58.920 --> 01:55:03.319 Popco's The Weasel said, we are teaching grandsons Spanish and German. 2314 01:55:03.399 --> 01:55:05.600 He is pretty good at sign language and becoming good 2315 01:55:05.680 --> 01:55:08.279 in Spanish. He is two, so he mixes the language 2316 01:55:08.279 --> 01:55:11.079 and I have to decipher. Yeah, same thing with my son. Yeah, 2317 01:55:11.279 --> 01:55:13.920 I have to try and decipher. I'm like, man, I like, 2318 01:55:14.039 --> 01:55:16.960 he's he's like better versed in Portuguese than I am. 2319 01:55:17.119 --> 01:55:19.920 And he's only three, you know, Like, I'm like, man. 2320 01:55:19.960 --> 01:55:23.640 Like how it's so crazy, how little ones are just 2321 01:55:24.319 --> 01:55:27.840 so easy to just be a sponge to information. 2322 01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:29.520 We get old and stuck in our ways and we 2323 01:55:29.560 --> 01:55:30.079 don't know shit. 2324 01:55:30.159 --> 01:55:32.720 We're like, how do you know that? You know? Yeah, 2325 01:55:33.520 --> 01:55:35.840 it's it's impressive, it really is. But that's thing whenever 2326 01:55:35.880 --> 01:55:38.359 you're if you're teaching your child to be bilingual, you 2327 01:55:38.399 --> 01:55:39.960 can kind of keep up with them for a little bit. 2328 01:55:40.039 --> 01:55:42.600 If you are also bilingual, y'all start doing that tri 2329 01:55:42.720 --> 01:55:46.680 linguist shit. Bro that good luck and all the blessings 2330 01:55:46.720 --> 01:55:50.439 to y'all on your endeavors. I could not imagine trying 2331 01:55:50.439 --> 01:55:52.279 to teach a kid three languages, because you know they're 2332 01:55:52.319 --> 01:55:54.399 gonna just mix and mash the shit, and you're like, fuck, 2333 01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:57.439 I gotta sit for ten minutes to decipher a two 2334 01:55:57.560 --> 01:55:59.880 minute conversation I just had with this kid with the 2335 01:56:00.359 --> 01:56:03.039 trying to tell him, dude, it's like my my son. 2336 01:56:03.119 --> 01:56:05.079 So he has his mom that speaks to him only 2337 01:56:05.119 --> 01:56:07.039 in Portuguese because she's trying to get him to learn 2338 01:56:07.079 --> 01:56:09.840 it right, and I obviously only speak to him in English. 2339 01:56:10.039 --> 01:56:13.479 But then his his nanny speaks Spanish and well, and 2340 01:56:13.800 --> 01:56:16.439 meanwhile his mom also knows how to speak Spanish and 2341 01:56:16.479 --> 01:56:18.159 interpret it and all that stuff. So she knows all 2342 01:56:18.199 --> 01:56:20.600 three you know, his mom knows all three languages. I 2343 01:56:21.760 --> 01:56:23.840 know a couple lot of each. But what's your uh, 2344 01:56:24.279 --> 01:56:26.520 what's your experience there? Pop goes a weasel. 2345 01:56:28.359 --> 01:56:31.279 Well, I mean most part. He's used a lot of 2346 01:56:31.359 --> 01:56:33.840 sign language, I guess because I'm very animated, and we've 2347 01:56:33.880 --> 01:56:36.000 taught him a sign language, so he does real well 2348 01:56:36.039 --> 01:56:38.760 with that. And when we're teaching Spanish, you know, he 2349 01:56:38.880 --> 01:56:41.800 knows all his numbers, but he'll start counting to ten 2350 01:56:41.840 --> 01:56:42.600 and he'll start. 2351 01:56:42.479 --> 01:56:45.319 Going a little dulls. It is like, dude, really really, 2352 01:56:45.560 --> 01:56:46.359 you know, and. 2353 01:56:46.479 --> 01:56:49.439 We're trying to teaching certain words and he made throw 2354 01:56:49.680 --> 01:56:52.399 a German mix in there. He'll use his hands and 2355 01:56:52.720 --> 01:56:56.159 he'll start speaking English. You know, they're still very broken sentences, 2356 01:56:56.279 --> 01:56:59.880 so decidering what he's saying in English, it's very difficult 2357 01:56:59.880 --> 01:57:04.800 to begin with. But uh yeah, three languages is hard. 2358 01:57:04.880 --> 01:57:07.399 But he's he's doing so well, and he's a spun 2359 01:57:07.520 --> 01:57:08.479 she's a smart little guy. 2360 01:57:09.000 --> 01:57:10.760 Oh yeah, I feel like you're gonna be good with 2361 01:57:10.880 --> 01:57:13.720 it until those German signs and hand signals get a 2362 01:57:13.880 --> 01:57:21.640 little too Hey, hey, little man, let's let's come over 2363 01:57:21.680 --> 01:57:23.640 here and watch some Bluey you know what I'm. 2364 01:57:23.720 --> 01:57:25.880 Yeah, Yeah, that's a savor by the way, he's bluey. 2365 01:57:26.399 --> 01:57:31.399 Fuck yeah. But yeah, for trying to teach your children 2366 01:57:31.439 --> 01:57:35.479 to be tri lingual, that is quite an undertaking, mad respect. Yeah. 2367 01:57:35.520 --> 01:57:37.720 What I have found though is that, uh, you know, 2368 01:57:37.840 --> 01:57:39.840 they'll pick up on it, but if you don't stick 2369 01:57:39.960 --> 01:57:42.279 with it, you know, they they forget it real easy, 2370 01:57:42.479 --> 01:57:46.359 you know. And so that's what my my son's mom. 2371 01:57:46.720 --> 01:57:48.720 She has a brother who's like way younger than him, 2372 01:57:48.880 --> 01:57:51.479 or way way younger than her, right she he's only 2373 01:57:51.680 --> 01:57:55.600 I think, like nine or ten somewhere in there, and 2374 01:57:56.079 --> 01:57:59.319 he grew up like his parents would only speak Portuguese, 2375 01:57:59.439 --> 01:58:02.640 and then going into the school system, obviously you're going 2376 01:58:02.680 --> 01:58:04.279 to learn a lot of English and everything, and then 2377 01:58:04.600 --> 01:58:06.840 his mom and his parents, you know, just wouldn't wasn't 2378 01:58:06.880 --> 01:58:09.079 keeping up with it. Now he he barely speaks at all. 2379 01:58:09.079 --> 01:58:11.720 He doesn't even remember the words that he used to 2380 01:58:12.159 --> 01:58:14.560 say like regularly. So it's something that you got to 2381 01:58:14.640 --> 01:58:17.119 keep up with regularly until a certain age. And honestly, 2382 01:58:17.159 --> 01:58:18.840 I don't even think until a certain age. I think 2383 01:58:18.920 --> 01:58:22.479 just always because you know, even even my ex like 2384 01:58:22.640 --> 01:58:26.439 if she's not around Portuguese speaking people. She's like, she'll 2385 01:58:26.520 --> 01:58:28.279 listen to something. She's like, man, I can't remember what 2386 01:58:28.359 --> 01:58:30.119 that means anymore, and it's like. 2387 01:58:30.159 --> 01:58:31.880 You don't use that, you lose it. That is a fact. 2388 01:58:31.960 --> 01:58:32.039 Ye. 2389 01:58:32.960 --> 01:58:36.279 The other grandparents are purely Spanish speaking, so they you know, 2390 01:58:36.359 --> 01:58:38.760 they'll they'll teach from the Spanish side of things. So 2391 01:58:38.880 --> 01:58:42.560 it's a lot easier with at least two languages, you know. 2392 01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:45.119 The third one is just you know, he'll probably lose 2393 01:58:45.199 --> 01:58:45.520 that one. 2394 01:58:45.880 --> 01:58:50.239 Yeah, it's cool though, Dougie. Let's go blunking. 2395 01:58:50.760 --> 01:58:52.159 Yeah, let's go blunking. 2396 01:58:52.640 --> 01:58:55.560 Did you guys ever reconnect with that guy from the 2397 01:58:55.960 --> 01:58:58.439 last live show that? Yeah, it was like nine to eleven. 2398 01:58:59.359 --> 01:59:02.439 God is in for everybody hold their hold on to 2399 01:59:02.520 --> 01:59:04.520 your horses for that one, because we will have him 2400 01:59:04.560 --> 01:59:06.319 on for an episode very soon. 2401 01:59:06.800 --> 01:59:10.920 So yes, and I'm probably just going to get really 2402 01:59:11.000 --> 01:59:13.079 big for that episode because I don't think I'm gonna 2403 01:59:13.119 --> 01:59:16.319 have to say many words because my god, some people 2404 01:59:16.600 --> 01:59:18.960 just got that motor on them, which I'm happy, you know, like, 2405 01:59:19.680 --> 01:59:20.319 give him the mic. 2406 01:59:20.399 --> 01:59:23.479 He can say everything that he wants to makes our 2407 01:59:23.560 --> 01:59:25.479 job easier, that's for damn sure it do. 2408 01:59:25.840 --> 01:59:30.159 Yeah, So a spirit animals, said, actual paintings from the Renaissance. 2409 01:59:30.239 --> 01:59:31.479 Okay, that's what those pictures were. 2410 01:59:32.199 --> 01:59:32.279 Ye. 2411 01:59:32.439 --> 01:59:34.960 Interesting, man, they were so beautiful. And get back then 2412 01:59:35.159 --> 01:59:37.239 like with their paintings. Man, like the depth on. 2413 01:59:37.359 --> 01:59:40.000 Them too, they did. 2414 01:59:40.039 --> 01:59:51.560 Indeed, I don't, Doug said, thank you, chat gbt oh pie, kaka, 2415 01:59:52.000 --> 01:59:57.960 kiko filth excrement. Oh I see cago and kaka are 2416 01:59:58.079 --> 02:00:02.439 basically the same thing, is yeah, And that's that's at 2417 02:00:02.520 --> 02:00:04.319 least one of the theories as to where the term 2418 02:00:04.560 --> 02:00:07.000 for couldgo even came from is because it was like 2419 02:00:07.119 --> 02:00:10.159 a misnomer of a misnomer of basically calling them shit. 2420 02:00:10.720 --> 02:00:11.920 So it's very possible. 2421 02:00:13.960 --> 02:00:15.960 Doug said, I had to chat you be t this 2422 02:00:16.199 --> 02:00:20.159 and this is the explanation the orch the Orthodox Christian iconography, 2423 02:00:20.279 --> 02:00:24.079 which I am Greek Orthodox, very interesting. The two objects 2424 02:00:24.159 --> 02:00:27.199 explained they represent the sun and the moon personified as 2425 02:00:27.239 --> 02:00:35.359 celestial witnesses to Christ's Christ's crucifixion. The iconograph iconographic motif 2426 02:00:35.800 --> 02:00:40.119 is very common in Byzantine and early Christian art. The 2427 02:00:40.239 --> 02:00:41.760 sun to the left the moon to the right are 2428 02:00:41.800 --> 02:00:45.479 often depicted as faces within radiance spheres or wing like 2429 02:00:46.279 --> 02:00:52.840 mend Mendorlas. There inclusion reflects Biblical verses such as Luke 2430 02:00:52.920 --> 02:00:57.239 twenty three to forty four, where the sun darkens during 2431 02:00:57.279 --> 02:01:01.600 the crucifixion. The bearded and youthful face his symbolize cosmic 2432 02:01:01.680 --> 02:01:04.760 participation in the passion, not extraterrestrial craft. 2433 02:01:05.479 --> 02:01:08.840 Oh indeed, which also, Dougie, I did not know that 2434 02:01:09.039 --> 02:01:12.760 you were a Greek Orthodox. I'm very curious you're familiar 2435 02:01:12.800 --> 02:01:16.279 with Jay Dyer. Yeah, uh No, I. 2436 02:01:16.319 --> 02:01:17.319 Don't know Jayder. 2437 02:01:17.439 --> 02:01:20.960 I like him, I do. Indeed, he is seen as 2438 02:01:21.000 --> 02:01:24.319 an orthro Bro. He's a content creator who is very, 2439 02:01:24.520 --> 02:01:28.960 very unapologetically Eastern Orthod. We had him on the show 2440 02:01:29.159 --> 02:01:31.640 a few months ago. We did, and I didn't know 2441 02:01:31.840 --> 02:01:33.760 much about him at the time. I had known the name, 2442 02:01:34.159 --> 02:01:36.239 But since then I've watched a lot of his content. 2443 02:01:36.359 --> 02:01:39.680 The dude is a wealth of knowledge when it comes 2444 02:01:39.720 --> 02:01:43.680 to historical facts and data and this synod and this 2445 02:01:43.880 --> 02:01:46.199 council and what was agreed upon here and as far 2446 02:01:46.279 --> 02:01:50.479 as that goes. So with that being said, Greek Orthodox, 2447 02:01:50.640 --> 02:01:53.479 and you live in Philly, is there a decent population 2448 02:01:53.640 --> 02:01:56.920 of Ortho Bros living in Philly or are you kind 2449 02:01:56.960 --> 02:01:58.560 of part of a minority group there? 2450 02:01:59.720 --> 02:01:59.840 Uh? 2451 02:02:00.199 --> 02:02:03.039 I'd say, like in this area, like the Tri State area. 2452 02:02:03.079 --> 02:02:06.640 A lot of Greeks, especially back in the day. I 2453 02:02:06.720 --> 02:02:08.199 think a lot of them are moving out. 2454 02:02:08.760 --> 02:02:08.880 Uh. 2455 02:02:08.960 --> 02:02:13.439 There's actually a very big cathedral, Saint George Orthodox Cathedral 2456 02:02:13.520 --> 02:02:14.319 in Philadelphia. 2457 02:02:14.960 --> 02:02:15.079 Uh. 2458 02:02:15.279 --> 02:02:19.479 And then Upper Dorvey, Pennsylvania has a massive Greek population. 2459 02:02:20.000 --> 02:02:22.560 Tina Fay is actually from that population. 2460 02:02:23.479 --> 02:02:29.600 A lot of Greeks. Tina Fay, yep, half Greed. I 2461 02:02:29.720 --> 02:02:36.760 had no I thought she was Jewish. No huh. Every day. Well, 2462 02:02:37.319 --> 02:02:40.239 even when we ever get questions about the Orthodox religion, 2463 02:02:40.319 --> 02:02:42.399 I hope that we can call upon you as a source. Brother, 2464 02:02:43.600 --> 02:02:46.000 I'll do my best. Fuck ya. 2465 02:02:47.239 --> 02:02:50.880 Joe from Australia said, Hey, guys, last week on Live 2466 02:02:51.039 --> 02:02:54.840 I asked, I asked about your guys' opinion on big 2467 02:02:55.000 --> 02:02:59.000 independent journalists such as Tyler Olivera, Brandon Buckingham, Tommy g 2468 02:02:59.199 --> 02:03:03.319 et cetera. Love their content, but having many but having 2469 02:03:03.399 --> 02:03:06.479 many millions of views, I wonder how they are allowed 2470 02:03:06.520 --> 02:03:09.840 to show drug ridden American streets and some israel conspiracy 2471 02:03:09.920 --> 02:03:13.079 content can't help, But wonder are they controlled or just popular? 2472 02:03:13.359 --> 02:03:19.119 Thanks cunts, So I do know like Brandon Buckingham, I 2473 02:03:19.199 --> 02:03:22.680 do love his content. Tyler Olivera same thing. I am 2474 02:03:22.800 --> 02:03:23.720 unfamiliar with Tommy. 2475 02:03:23.840 --> 02:03:26.840 I know who Tommy g is actually a deplorable Janet. 2476 02:03:27.239 --> 02:03:28.680 She used to be on his show. 2477 02:03:29.359 --> 02:03:30.399 Oh word. Yeah. 2478 02:03:30.439 --> 02:03:30.640 OK. 2479 02:03:31.199 --> 02:03:34.359 And then now as far as them being allowed to 2480 02:03:34.439 --> 02:03:37.239 show drug ridden American streets, it's not going to take 2481 02:03:37.239 --> 02:03:39.720 you much to find a YouTuber that's going to skid 2482 02:03:39.840 --> 02:03:42.640 row and with a camera and a microphone just to 2483 02:03:42.760 --> 02:03:46.239 do so, right, I mean, that's freedom of speech. We 2484 02:03:46.399 --> 02:03:48.000 have that in this country. I know that you don't 2485 02:03:48.000 --> 02:03:49.399 have it in Australia because you're a part of the 2486 02:03:49.439 --> 02:03:53.439 British Commonwealth, which is bullshit. But that being said, yeah 2487 02:03:53.479 --> 02:03:55.079 you could put that kind of content up and you 2488 02:03:55.159 --> 02:03:59.640 might get demonetized for showing you know, illicit materials and 2489 02:03:59.680 --> 02:04:02.279 things like that. But yeah, they absolutely can put wild 2490 02:04:02.319 --> 02:04:07.560 things up like that. For sure. Are they controlled? I 2491 02:04:07.880 --> 02:04:11.159 could see the conversation. I personally don't think so, and 2492 02:04:11.239 --> 02:04:16.560 maybe in some ways maybe definitely not. I just yeah, 2493 02:04:17.000 --> 02:04:19.880 if they are being controlled quote unquote or allowed to 2494 02:04:20.000 --> 02:04:22.840 post certain things of that kind of nature, it's uh, 2495 02:04:24.039 --> 02:04:27.479 that's the thing. Because they're independent journalists, they're allowed to 2496 02:04:27.520 --> 02:04:29.640 talk about whatever the fuck they want, right, They're not 2497 02:04:29.720 --> 02:04:33.159 affiliated with some big conglomerate or some big syndications. So 2498 02:04:33.560 --> 02:04:35.960 I mean, honestly, it's kind of like Count Dankila. He 2499 02:04:36.079 --> 02:04:38.079 can talk about whatever the fuck he wants, and he's 2500 02:04:38.079 --> 02:04:40.880 big enough to where, yeah, the YouTube algorithm might, you know, 2501 02:04:41.039 --> 02:04:44.439 demonetize that video, but he's got other sources of income 2502 02:04:44.520 --> 02:04:46.439 flowing into where he's cool with it at this point. 2503 02:04:46.600 --> 02:04:48.720 Now it's about him actually posting whatever the hell he 2504 02:04:48.840 --> 02:04:52.000 wants to post. So it's you know, that's the crazy 2505 02:04:52.079 --> 02:04:54.960 part about the YouTube space and the content creator space. 2506 02:04:55.520 --> 02:04:58.039 There is so much more freedom. And now I mean 2507 02:04:58.159 --> 02:05:01.000 just American, I mean, like just in general, no one 2508 02:05:01.119 --> 02:05:03.640 is telling you what you can and can't post. The 2509 02:05:03.760 --> 02:05:07.359 algorithm might shadow ban certain things or promote other things 2510 02:05:07.399 --> 02:05:09.600 one hundred percent, but if you've already got a good 2511 02:05:09.640 --> 02:05:11.720 follower base, it's gonna watch whatever the fuck you put 2512 02:05:11.760 --> 02:05:15.479 out regardless. You can literally write your own ticket and 2513 02:05:15.840 --> 02:05:19.199 or you know, ruin your entire career with the next video. 2514 02:05:19.319 --> 02:05:22.840 So it's yeah, it's an interesting time frame that we 2515 02:05:22.880 --> 02:05:23.920 have found ourselves living in. 2516 02:05:24.039 --> 02:05:24.399 For sure. 2517 02:05:26.279 --> 02:05:29.439 I'm looking something up right now, trying to find like 2518 02:05:29.560 --> 02:05:35.079 I I feel like the answer is usually following the money, 2519 02:05:35.520 --> 02:05:40.640 you know, and turning point was definitely backed by Israeli money. 2520 02:05:40.960 --> 02:05:44.760 So does that mean that they were, you know, kind 2521 02:05:44.800 --> 02:05:47.399 of bought and you know, are are they controlled? I 2522 02:05:47.479 --> 02:05:50.119 think that they were controlled to a certain aspect. But 2523 02:05:50.439 --> 02:05:52.640 then again, you know, he wasn't taken in any any 2524 02:05:52.760 --> 02:05:55.840 more israel money. So did they start to say, like, 2525 02:05:56.199 --> 02:05:58.840 did they become uncontrollable at that point? 2526 02:05:58.920 --> 02:06:01.039 And I don't know, and that I don't know. I'm 2527 02:06:01.119 --> 02:06:02.560 I'm the last person. 2528 02:06:02.399 --> 02:06:05.039 To ever call somebody controlled, Like I'm even on the 2529 02:06:05.079 --> 02:06:06.159 fence about Alex Jones. 2530 02:06:06.399 --> 02:06:08.920 You know what, I like this, Jonathan. We have had 2531 02:06:09.560 --> 02:06:12.840 pharmaceutical commercials play on our show before, and we have 2532 02:06:12.960 --> 02:06:17.319 had no hand in that. We give our distributor the episode, 2533 02:06:17.479 --> 02:06:19.800 they put in the commercials and they decide which commercials 2534 02:06:19.800 --> 02:06:22.680 are gonna play. Does that mean that you and I 2535 02:06:23.239 --> 02:06:26.079 are controlled by Big Pharma? No, No, of course not. 2536 02:06:26.640 --> 02:06:29.279 But we have their commercial playing, and we the ad 2537 02:06:29.359 --> 02:06:31.439 reads and all these things and not reads like for us, 2538 02:06:31.520 --> 02:06:34.239 but like ads that are playing. There's a group out 2539 02:06:34.279 --> 02:06:37.319 there that believe that we are bought and controlled by 2540 02:06:37.359 --> 02:06:39.840 Big Pharma because we allow those commercials to be played. 2541 02:06:39.880 --> 02:06:41.600 Little do they know we have no fucking say so 2542 02:06:41.760 --> 02:06:44.119 on the frequency or on what commercials are played. 2543 02:06:44.239 --> 02:06:46.039 Yeah, I mean most of them are local and we 2544 02:06:46.159 --> 02:06:49.800 don't have like it. It doesn't go through a cult 2545 02:06:49.840 --> 02:06:53.000 of conspiracy filter by any means. Right that being said, 2546 02:06:53.279 --> 02:06:56.039 I think that it's a little bit different if if 2547 02:06:56.119 --> 02:06:58.880 we're the ones that are doing ad reads on behalf 2548 02:06:59.119 --> 02:07:02.359 of Big Pharma. Like, sure, if Pfizer came and said, hey, 2549 02:07:02.439 --> 02:07:05.279 look we're gonna just do this ad read for us, 2550 02:07:05.479 --> 02:07:07.560 you know, pump them up a little bit, say that 2551 02:07:07.640 --> 02:07:10.279 they're they're safe and effective, you know, like give them 2552 02:07:10.319 --> 02:07:12.319 the old song and dance. It's like then you could 2553 02:07:12.319 --> 02:07:13.479 start looking at us like we're. 2554 02:07:13.359 --> 02:07:16.119 Controlled, you know, absolutely at that point we are bought. 2555 02:07:16.920 --> 02:07:19.760 Which we will never like not only for Big Pharma, 2556 02:07:19.840 --> 02:07:23.319 we will never be bought by any other country. First 2557 02:07:23.359 --> 02:07:27.479 of all, Like we are never going to be dual 2558 02:07:27.600 --> 02:07:30.439 citizens at all. That's just never going to be the 2559 02:07:30.479 --> 02:07:33.560 angle that the show ever goes. We're never going to 2560 02:07:33.560 --> 02:07:35.399 be a part of Big Pharma. We're never going to 2561 02:07:35.439 --> 02:07:37.039 be a part of Like me and Jacob don't even 2562 02:07:37.039 --> 02:07:37.680 agree on war. 2563 02:07:38.039 --> 02:07:40.439 Like That's the thing is that I don't know. 2564 02:07:41.600 --> 02:07:44.079 I don't know that if it would even be possible 2565 02:07:44.159 --> 02:07:46.399 for somebody to buy us out, because we would both 2566 02:07:46.479 --> 02:07:48.760 have to agree on it, and we wouldn't you know. 2567 02:07:48.720 --> 02:07:49.119 What I mean? 2568 02:07:49.279 --> 02:07:53.600 Like there there could be the military industrial complex, some 2569 02:07:53.960 --> 02:07:56.119 branch of that that that could reach out to us 2570 02:07:56.159 --> 02:07:58.439 and be like, look, we need you to pump up war. 2571 02:07:58.479 --> 02:08:00.840 We need you to like really really be stoke in 2572 02:08:00.920 --> 02:08:03.039 that flame and and try and get more people to 2573 02:08:03.119 --> 02:08:04.640 join the military and stuff like that. 2574 02:08:05.159 --> 02:08:08.079 Jacob would be like, hell, yeah, brother, let's go. I'm 2575 02:08:08.119 --> 02:08:08.560 on board. 2576 02:08:08.880 --> 02:08:11.600 I would be like, get all the way fucked. I'm 2577 02:08:11.680 --> 02:08:12.640 all the way anti war. 2578 02:08:13.319 --> 02:08:15.439 So does that mean that you and me, with our 2579 02:08:15.520 --> 02:08:20.239 bullshit are actually accidentally the checks and balances that keep 2580 02:08:20.359 --> 02:08:20.880 us honest? 2581 02:08:21.079 --> 02:08:25.840 We are uncontrollable. I like that because you can't control 2582 02:08:25.960 --> 02:08:28.199 me and I can't control you, and we have very 2583 02:08:28.239 --> 02:08:29.079 different beliefs. 2584 02:08:29.680 --> 02:08:33.199 Facts. Yeah, Joelle, what a do good sir? 2585 02:08:34.640 --> 02:08:36.520 I knew it and knew with this full time that 2586 02:08:36.600 --> 02:08:39.640 you guys were bought by l Pesto Community College. 2587 02:08:39.760 --> 02:08:43.000 Man, what the fuck you guys? What the fuck? God 2588 02:08:43.079 --> 02:08:44.439 damn it, Joe, you watch your mouth. 2589 02:08:44.479 --> 02:08:47.159 They don't need to know, Oh my god, selling the 2590 02:08:47.479 --> 02:08:51.359 uh rough child education from Opesto Community College. 2591 02:08:51.600 --> 02:08:53.680 Well it is kind of funny though, because we just 2592 02:08:53.720 --> 02:08:55.520 said that they're local commercials, so you kind of just 2593 02:08:55.600 --> 02:08:56.199 docked yourself. 2594 02:08:56.279 --> 02:08:59.800 But ah, but I mean even still, there's like political 2595 02:09:00.239 --> 02:09:03.840 that will play some Republicans some Democrats like, oh see, 2596 02:09:04.159 --> 02:09:06.560 they're actually a part of the op they're bought by 2597 02:09:06.600 --> 02:09:09.800 the Democrats or they're bought from by the Republicans. It's like, bro, 2598 02:09:10.079 --> 02:09:11.960 if that's the case, I would love to see the 2599 02:09:12.039 --> 02:09:15.399 fucking check because I ain't received a goddamn dime from 2600 02:09:15.520 --> 02:09:17.920 these big donors, like everybody. 2601 02:09:17.680 --> 02:09:20.920 Making it out to be she Yeah, I mean I 2602 02:09:21.560 --> 02:09:24.359 don't believe that Adam and Eve has a political ideology. 2603 02:09:24.479 --> 02:09:26.880 I think that they believe anybody can get this dick. 2604 02:09:27.439 --> 02:09:29.119 Oh no, it's the same whenever people like for me 2605 02:09:29.319 --> 02:09:33.239 for even supporting Israel as a nation, na nan yaho, 2606 02:09:33.439 --> 02:09:36.479 not the genocide, not that, just saying that I think 2607 02:09:36.520 --> 02:09:39.680 that Israel should be a nation. Jacob's obviously controlled, He's 2608 02:09:39.720 --> 02:09:42.359 obviously an op bro. I would love to see a 2609 02:09:42.479 --> 02:09:46.199 fucking check. Charlie kirkhad what hundreds of millions of dollars 2610 02:09:46.279 --> 02:09:49.319 coming in from Israel. Where's my fucking slice of the pie. 2611 02:09:49.680 --> 02:09:50.399 That's bullshit. 2612 02:09:50.720 --> 02:09:54.000 Yeah, ummm, that's just not gonna happen. No, it's not 2613 02:09:54.520 --> 02:09:57.840 the way pop Gozezel said, keyword independent. They are not 2614 02:09:58.039 --> 02:10:01.199 handed a script from a three letter agency. No, not right, 2615 02:10:02.199 --> 02:10:04.600 White Boy Wizard said. Anyone with over one hundred thousand 2616 02:10:04.640 --> 02:10:08.640 followers is probably coming with an agenda. I literally don't 2617 02:10:08.880 --> 02:10:11.479 fully trust anyone. In the last two decades, I've seen 2618 02:10:11.600 --> 02:10:16.399 humanity go to shit. Everyone is everyone is ours for Oh, 2619 02:10:16.479 --> 02:10:20.039 it's for them, it's for themselves. I keep in mind 2620 02:10:20.319 --> 02:10:22.640 that whilst consuming info and stuff. 2621 02:10:22.720 --> 02:10:25.439 Yeah, that's kind of the real quick, White Boy Wizard. 2622 02:10:26.000 --> 02:10:28.880 When we get to over a million listeners, I'm gonna 2623 02:10:28.920 --> 02:10:31.840 need you to understand that me and Jonathan are still one. 2624 02:10:33.119 --> 02:10:36.800 Jacob and Jonathan, okay, just we're all clear here. Well, 2625 02:10:36.960 --> 02:10:38.199 you know, I'm right or die off. 2626 02:10:38.239 --> 02:10:42.039 Fight anybody of the death three the g motherfuckers, fucking right. 2627 02:10:42.119 --> 02:10:44.319 Fucking right. I will. That being said, Jacob is more 2628 02:10:44.399 --> 02:10:51.960 likely to sell out than me moving on. I know, 2629 02:10:52.239 --> 02:10:54.079 but I'm also just I don't want to fight it. 2630 02:10:54.640 --> 02:10:59.239 Just whatever, fine, sure, White Boy Wizard said. Really they 2631 02:10:59.399 --> 02:11:03.680 just like I'm taking the bag, just be straight about it. Whatever, 2632 02:11:04.840 --> 02:11:07.039 Just like Joe Rogan said, and he goes, look, just 2633 02:11:07.079 --> 02:11:08.800 tell me about the aliens. I'll lie to my mother. 2634 02:11:09.039 --> 02:11:12.560 I'm like, I'm not going that far, you know, No, 2635 02:11:12.680 --> 02:11:14.920 I'm not gonna go that far. But like, every man 2636 02:11:15.039 --> 02:11:17.960 does have a price, right, Like, and everybody's like, no, 2637 02:11:18.199 --> 02:11:21.359 never have you ever turned down one hundred million green 2638 02:11:21.520 --> 02:11:24.800 dollars in your face? No, then you have no idea 2639 02:11:24.840 --> 02:11:25.399 what you would do. 2640 02:11:25.560 --> 02:11:27.359 I would see it in that position, Yeah, I would. 2641 02:11:27.159 --> 02:11:28.760 Turn you would turn down one hundred million. I mean 2642 02:11:28.800 --> 02:11:31.399 it depends what's it for? That's fair that it depends 2643 02:11:31.439 --> 02:11:34.560 on the situation, right, Like what is what is. 2644 02:11:34.680 --> 02:11:37.600 The I don't know, Like, what's that line to where 2645 02:11:37.640 --> 02:11:40.119 you're like, ah, somebody offers you to do some really 2646 02:11:40.159 --> 02:11:42.279 egregious shit and they're like, but for a hundred million, 2647 02:11:42.600 --> 02:11:45.119 what's that line that there is like gray for you? 2648 02:11:45.880 --> 02:11:48.720 Yeah, it's like what Dave Chappelle said right with his 2649 02:11:48.840 --> 02:11:50.840 dad when he got famous. He's like, name your price 2650 02:11:51.199 --> 02:11:54.399 and stick to it, right because that they're gonna try 2651 02:11:54.439 --> 02:11:56.079 to meet that price one day, and you got to 2652 02:11:56.119 --> 02:11:58.239 decide whenever it's too much, and you gotta be willing 2653 02:11:58.319 --> 02:12:01.479 to walk away from it. Honestly, I've never had to 2654 02:12:01.560 --> 02:12:04.439 have that conversation with myself, but I mean, I would 2655 02:12:04.479 --> 02:12:06.800 never do something to put my own morality into question. 2656 02:12:06.920 --> 02:12:08.479 I would never do something to where I would have 2657 02:12:08.560 --> 02:12:11.039 to look at my children and explain, your dad did 2658 02:12:11.079 --> 02:12:13.760 some really heinous shit. But like look at the house 2659 02:12:13.800 --> 02:12:15.920 we're living in now, Like, no, I'm not gonna do 2660 02:12:16.039 --> 02:12:19.119 that because I have to be I have to hold 2661 02:12:19.159 --> 02:12:22.199 myself to a different standard, because I see myself as 2662 02:12:22.319 --> 02:12:26.079 the figure that I want my children to look up to, 2663 02:12:26.680 --> 02:12:28.640 you know, And that's that's at least what my guiding 2664 02:12:28.680 --> 02:12:31.800 principles are, aside from all religious and moral dogmas. Yes, 2665 02:12:31.880 --> 02:12:34.199 those things are in place, but I'm saying this to 2666 02:12:34.279 --> 02:12:36.520 people that may or may not have any religion within them, 2667 02:12:36.800 --> 02:12:40.840 not judging, not looking down on anybody, but that's where 2668 02:12:40.880 --> 02:12:44.479 I am at anyway. And yeah, if it and including 2669 02:12:44.520 --> 02:12:47.880 the whole military industrial complex, right, like if they're telling 2670 02:12:48.000 --> 02:12:50.279 us and you know me, yes, I'm a veteran, but 2671 02:12:50.479 --> 02:12:54.079 I am pretty I'm pro war, but I'm anti military. 2672 02:12:54.760 --> 02:12:58.840 I know I'm a walking fucking dichotomy of hypocrisy. I 2673 02:12:58.920 --> 02:13:01.760 get that, but I will be the first to tell 2674 02:13:01.840 --> 02:13:04.840 everybody that, like, listen, if you don't have to join, like, 2675 02:13:04.960 --> 02:13:08.520 don't fucking join. There's better ways to achieve your goals, 2676 02:13:08.840 --> 02:13:10.760 and if you are going to join the military, be 2677 02:13:10.920 --> 02:13:13.399 smart about it and do it with the intention of 2678 02:13:13.520 --> 02:13:15.439 your exit strategy. I just had this talk with my 2679 02:13:15.520 --> 02:13:20.000 cousin the other day and the team. Please Now, it 2680 02:13:20.079 --> 02:13:22.279 depends on what you're trying to do. Right, If you're 2681 02:13:22.279 --> 02:13:25.520 trying to be a diesel mechanic, go Army. If you're 2682 02:13:25.560 --> 02:13:28.800 trying to work on ships for their mechanics and stuff 2683 02:13:28.800 --> 02:13:31.600 like that, go Navy. If you're trying to be a cop, 2684 02:13:32.039 --> 02:13:36.319 go MP. Right these types of things, but like keep 2685 02:13:36.359 --> 02:13:38.960 in mind. Ed literally just had this conversation with him, 2686 02:13:39.039 --> 02:13:40.479 like what do you want to do? He was some 2687 02:13:40.560 --> 02:13:43.880 about joined the Marine Corps. I'm like, okay, why and 2688 02:13:43.960 --> 02:13:45.680 he's like, well, you know, they just seem like the 2689 02:13:45.720 --> 02:13:47.800 most badass. I'm like, okay, that's very fair, But what 2690 02:13:47.920 --> 02:13:50.000 do you want to do in the Marine Corps? I'm 2691 02:13:50.000 --> 02:13:52.560 thinking some with computers. Then do not join the fucking 2692 02:13:52.680 --> 02:13:56.359 Marine Corps. Join the Air Force of the Space Force, obviously, 2693 02:13:56.880 --> 02:13:59.239 like let's let's talk about this. You need to do 2694 02:13:59.319 --> 02:14:01.439 it with an exit strategy in mind, because whether you 2695 02:14:01.560 --> 02:14:04.199 serve out a four year term or a twenty year term, 2696 02:14:04.439 --> 02:14:07.279 eventually you're going to get back to the civilian world 2697 02:14:07.560 --> 02:14:10.119 and be looking for a job. That's going to be 2698 02:14:10.279 --> 02:14:13.159 the case. So please gain some skills that you can 2699 02:14:13.199 --> 02:14:16.279 bring to the civilian world and use to further your career. 2700 02:14:16.640 --> 02:14:19.680 And speaking as a former infantryman, there is no call 2701 02:14:19.920 --> 02:14:22.479 for infantry tactics in the civilian world unless you're going 2702 02:14:22.560 --> 02:14:25.479 like private contracting or something like that. And that's your Goalden, fine, 2703 02:14:25.600 --> 02:14:28.239 get after it. Just my point is have a plan 2704 02:14:28.399 --> 02:14:32.119 in place before you join, otherwise you will have wasted 2705 02:14:32.479 --> 02:14:35.439 the best years of your youth with nothing to show 2706 02:14:35.520 --> 02:14:40.399 for it. That's the anyway anyway, Samuel, go ahead, sir. 2707 02:14:40.800 --> 02:14:42.840 I mean to be fair. When I went in I 2708 02:14:43.000 --> 02:14:45.840 wanted to do I would sign on in as a 2709 02:14:45.880 --> 02:14:48.840 combat jim. My goal was to do EOD. Now that 2710 02:14:49.039 --> 02:14:49.960 was my dream. 2711 02:14:50.560 --> 02:14:52.560 But there's a use for that in the civilian world. 2712 02:14:52.640 --> 02:14:56.439 SWAT teams have former EOD guys and like you could 2713 02:14:56.520 --> 02:14:58.520 do something. There is a job field to get after 2714 02:14:58.600 --> 02:15:01.239 with that. It's a very small niche field, but you 2715 02:15:01.359 --> 02:15:01.880 can't do that. 2716 02:15:02.760 --> 02:15:07.039 I mean, the whole of the science behind it all 2717 02:15:07.239 --> 02:15:10.439 fascinates mean, it makes my brain tingle. 2718 02:15:10.880 --> 02:15:12.880 Right, and there's nothing wrong with that. Dude, I'm not 2719 02:15:12.960 --> 02:15:15.560 judging anybody for look. I joined as a as a grunt, 2720 02:15:16.239 --> 02:15:19.800 like I get it one hundred percent. But that being said, 2721 02:15:19.840 --> 02:15:22.039 if somebody is going to join the military, now, I'm sorry. 2722 02:15:22.039 --> 02:15:24.039 If the military is gonna offer me and you some 2723 02:15:24.159 --> 02:15:28.159 stupid check to start recruiting and promoting, you're barking up 2724 02:15:28.199 --> 02:15:31.079 the wrong fucking tree, dude, Like, I mean, just not 2725 02:15:31.159 --> 02:15:31.720 gonna happen. 2726 02:15:32.840 --> 02:15:37.279 I do anything. I love the Marine Corps, but I 2727 02:15:37.399 --> 02:15:38.880 can't go back, which is sad. 2728 02:15:42.399 --> 02:15:45.640 I haven't met many Marine Corps veterans that had positive experiences. 2729 02:15:45.720 --> 02:15:46.159 There are some. 2730 02:15:47.000 --> 02:15:47.800 Most people. 2731 02:15:50.039 --> 02:15:52.680 I didn't say, I had a lot of positive memories 2732 02:15:52.760 --> 02:15:56.319 I miss. I'm pretty much missed the people that I 2733 02:15:56.439 --> 02:15:58.680 met along the way. I don't really miss the circus. 2734 02:15:58.840 --> 02:15:59.720 I miss the clowns. 2735 02:16:00.359 --> 02:16:03.319 Sure no, I'm looking at it. Yeah. 2736 02:16:03.720 --> 02:16:03.840 Uh. 2737 02:16:04.199 --> 02:16:04.800 Tony said. 2738 02:16:04.880 --> 02:16:08.319 The Shakers are another group that had those those teachings 2739 02:16:08.439 --> 02:16:09.520 similar to the Quakers. 2740 02:16:09.560 --> 02:16:13.199 I think I've heard of them, but I am unfamiliar 2741 02:16:13.279 --> 02:16:15.600 with a lot of their beliefs. I don't know. I 2742 02:16:15.680 --> 02:16:17.159 will look into them. That's interesting. 2743 02:16:17.399 --> 02:16:17.520 Uh. 2744 02:16:17.840 --> 02:16:21.880 Doug gave a pretty profound statement. Doug said, spilling seed 2745 02:16:21.920 --> 02:16:23.880 on the floor as a sin, and so is masturbation, 2746 02:16:24.079 --> 02:16:27.319 but no one ever mentioned blumpkins. It's our Christian duty 2747 02:16:27.399 --> 02:16:29.680 to spread good blumkin upon this round earth. 2748 02:16:30.159 --> 02:16:32.920 For the love of God. Spreading and blumpkin in the 2749 02:16:33.000 --> 02:16:37.879 same context gives me a weird, weird image, Dougie. 2750 02:16:38.879 --> 02:16:39.840 What is a blumpkin? 2751 02:16:40.760 --> 02:16:41.280 Oh, Sam? 2752 02:16:42.040 --> 02:16:44.239 The blumpkin like when you're getting head while you're taking 2753 02:16:44.280 --> 02:16:44.520 a shit. 2754 02:16:44.639 --> 02:16:47.319 Right, yes, Wait Sam, Wait, how do you not know 2755 02:16:47.440 --> 02:16:49.479 that you're you're the spirit animal. I thought you'd be 2756 02:16:49.559 --> 02:16:50.559 knowing all of the things. 2757 02:16:51.520 --> 02:16:53.280 I know a lot of things. I just didn't know 2758 02:16:53.440 --> 02:16:56.239 that was what that was. I thought that was something else. 2759 02:16:56.360 --> 02:16:59.079 Okay, No, no getting done while you're dropping a deuce, 2760 02:16:59.200 --> 02:17:00.120 bro which. 2761 02:17:00.200 --> 02:17:03.360 Is that's not even a hygienic and doesn't sound like 2762 02:17:03.440 --> 02:17:04.360 that'd be very fun. 2763 02:17:04.479 --> 02:17:06.639 Well yeah, I mean Cleveland Steamer doesn't sound like a 2764 02:17:06.680 --> 02:17:07.239 great time either. 2765 02:17:07.319 --> 02:17:09.079 But it's still a thing, you know. It's it's one 2766 02:17:09.120 --> 02:17:11.680 of those Internet things that like it's you're not supposed 2767 02:17:11.680 --> 02:17:13.680 to really do it. It's the thing to laugh about 2768 02:17:13.719 --> 02:17:15.440 on urban dictions. Some people are not supposed to like 2769 02:17:15.520 --> 02:17:19.520 actually like some people do. Sure, scat porn is a thing. 2770 02:17:19.600 --> 02:17:21.120 It doesn't mean you're supposed to actually do it. Some 2771 02:17:21.280 --> 02:17:23.520 people get down with that, and you know what, I'm 2772 02:17:23.559 --> 02:17:25.639 good with yucking back and. 2773 02:17:25.719 --> 02:17:28.879 Then and not the fun type. But they're just grade 2774 02:17:28.920 --> 02:17:32.479 one fleaks. And there's some people that like to ingest 2775 02:17:32.600 --> 02:17:33.079 that shit. 2776 02:17:33.200 --> 02:17:36.000 Yeah, people that you should. I mean, my god, yeah, 2777 02:17:36.000 --> 02:17:38.600 I'm knocking that one. Dude. Speaking of I told you 2778 02:17:38.680 --> 02:17:40.360 about my buddy while in the Marine Corps. As a 2779 02:17:40.399 --> 02:17:43.360 matter of fact, he had to oversee the NJP of 2780 02:17:43.600 --> 02:17:45.120 it was about to be a court martial of a 2781 02:17:45.159 --> 02:17:47.040 guy because him and his wife are doing that. 2782 02:17:48.479 --> 02:17:50.680 Oh yeah, well, you're only allowed to do missionary stuff 2783 02:17:50.680 --> 02:17:52.479 and in the military, right, this. 2784 02:17:52.600 --> 02:17:55.559 Is true under the UCUMJA, you're the only position you're 2785 02:17:55.600 --> 02:17:57.760 allowed to have sex in his missionary with the man 2786 02:17:57.879 --> 02:17:59.639 on top. But that's not even what they got him 2787 02:17:59.639 --> 02:18:02.879 down for. Dude, they fuck is So this guy, this boot, 2788 02:18:03.399 --> 02:18:06.120 his wife a panel. We're doing some wild ass shit. 2789 02:18:06.680 --> 02:18:11.239 Wow wow freezing anyway, Okay, So so no, he was 2790 02:18:11.360 --> 02:18:16.159 allowing his wife to like disclaimer disclaimer for everybody that 2791 02:18:16.239 --> 02:18:18.239 wants to skip ahead a few seconds, go for it. 2792 02:18:19.319 --> 02:18:21.280 He was she was shitting in his mouth and he 2793 02:18:21.399 --> 02:18:23.680 was like eating it and stuff. He kept coming to 2794 02:18:23.840 --> 02:18:27.840 work sick as fuck. Yeah, like sick as fuck. And 2795 02:18:28.000 --> 02:18:29.719 so they finally had to bring him to medical and 2796 02:18:29.799 --> 02:18:32.079 they took samples and found all this fecal matter in 2797 02:18:32.159 --> 02:18:34.879 his digestive system. They brought him down for destruction of 2798 02:18:34.920 --> 02:18:35.719 government property. 2799 02:18:36.120 --> 02:18:36.399 I e. 2800 02:18:36.879 --> 02:18:39.440 You're hurting your body and that doesn't belong to you anymore, 2801 02:18:39.479 --> 02:18:42.159 belongs to the government. So yeah, we're gonna have to 2802 02:18:42.200 --> 02:18:44.239 fucking take some legal action against you. That's why I 2803 02:18:44.280 --> 02:18:48.879 don't eat ass right there. Oh, that's that's different. No, No, 2804 02:18:50.239 --> 02:18:54.079 eating shit is different than tongue punching a balloon. Knot, dude, 2805 02:18:54.280 --> 02:18:58.680 No poop comes out of there. Okay, So that's like saying, girl, Yeah, 2806 02:18:58.760 --> 02:19:00.799 I don't suck girls. They were saying, I don't suck 2807 02:19:00.840 --> 02:19:02.040 it because they pee from there. 2808 02:19:02.600 --> 02:19:08.280 Yeah, but and things. It comes from the same spot, 2809 02:19:09.040 --> 02:19:10.840 I mean, the same general area. 2810 02:19:11.239 --> 02:19:13.399 But not they're saying, I don't make out with anybody 2811 02:19:13.399 --> 02:19:16.319 because puke comes out of there. It's like that's a 2812 02:19:16.399 --> 02:19:21.319 valid point. Though, No humans have disgusting mouths. That's yes, 2813 02:19:21.520 --> 02:19:25.200 they do. But still, you know, Samuel, go ahead. 2814 02:19:27.280 --> 02:19:30.040 Okay, so you're saying you don't go down on the 2815 02:19:30.079 --> 02:19:30.479 old lady. 2816 02:19:31.559 --> 02:19:34.040 I don't have an old lady first off, and yes, 2817 02:19:34.120 --> 02:19:39.639 I am known to uh give a little what is it, Felacio, No, 2818 02:19:39.680 --> 02:19:45.280 it's not Flai connlingis yes, but Jonathan, yeah, I mean 2819 02:19:45.600 --> 02:19:49.159 I get that it's kind of contradictory, but it's still 2820 02:19:49.239 --> 02:19:52.959 not ship like shi it is the most disgusting thing 2821 02:19:53.040 --> 02:19:54.120 on the face of the planet to. 2822 02:19:54.200 --> 02:19:56.719 Me, fair and I agree with that, but I mean, 2823 02:19:56.760 --> 02:19:58.719 you don't eat the ass after they take a ship. 2824 02:19:58.799 --> 02:20:00.280 You do it when they're fresh out the ship hour 2825 02:20:00.399 --> 02:20:02.319 obviously in the same way like I don't want I 2826 02:20:02.319 --> 02:20:04.959 don't want somebody sucking my dick whenever it's like I've 2827 02:20:05.000 --> 02:20:07.280 been sweating all day. Let me take a shower real quick, 2828 02:20:07.520 --> 02:20:09.799 let me clean up, let me be a gent teaching 2829 02:20:09.799 --> 02:20:10.159 their own. 2830 02:20:11.520 --> 02:20:14.159 Rose Cash said, I have always seen three three three 2831 02:20:14.200 --> 02:20:17.280 for years. Yeah, dude, it's like some certain numbers just 2832 02:20:17.360 --> 02:20:20.159 follow you. Jacob, is there I imagine that I probably 2833 02:20:20.159 --> 02:20:22.399 already know the answer to this one. I can't imagine 2834 02:20:22.440 --> 02:20:29.000 that there is a number that always catches you off guard, right, I. 2835 02:20:29.040 --> 02:20:32.159 Mean, off off the rip like this. I can't say 2836 02:20:32.200 --> 02:20:34.239 that there is, But I mean I do see things 2837 02:20:34.280 --> 02:20:36.319 from time to time to kind of stand out, you know. 2838 02:20:36.520 --> 02:20:39.319 I guess, okay, you know what we're gonna do. 2839 02:20:39.760 --> 02:20:43.959 We are going to slightly hypnotize Jacob here for a 2840 02:20:44.040 --> 02:20:48.799 second and uh be very suggestible and Jacob from now. 2841 02:20:48.840 --> 02:20:51.040 On, Yeah, I'll close my eyes and get in here. 2842 02:20:51.120 --> 02:20:54.680 Let's do it from now on as a blessing. 2843 02:20:55.239 --> 02:20:59.360 Every time you see the number six six six, it 2844 02:20:59.440 --> 02:21:03.399 will mean that it is a good sign and whatever 2845 02:21:03.559 --> 02:21:05.520 it is that is going on around you, you need 2846 02:21:05.600 --> 02:21:06.840 to be paying attention to it. 2847 02:21:07.200 --> 02:21:11.639 Six six six six six. Interesting. I thought you were 2848 02:21:11.639 --> 02:21:13.639 going to say every time I see it, I forcibly 2849 02:21:13.680 --> 02:21:17.239 ejaculate or something. I don't know you're going that route 2850 02:21:17.280 --> 02:21:18.200 with it, honestly, no. 2851 02:21:18.360 --> 02:21:21.120 But normally people who see numbers like that, it's like 2852 02:21:21.879 --> 02:21:25.079 it's people interpreted as a sign to pay attention and 2853 02:21:25.200 --> 02:21:28.120 bring your awareness and look around and or you know, 2854 02:21:28.399 --> 02:21:29.600 just be present in the moment. 2855 02:21:29.680 --> 02:21:34.280 I don't know. A white boy wizard said me. Three. 2856 02:21:35.159 --> 02:21:37.200 Uh for real though heavy on the threes forever. 2857 02:21:38.360 --> 02:21:42.600 Yeah, Rose Chaos said, fuck Joel Loasting agreed, you can 2858 02:21:42.639 --> 02:21:48.479 say that again. Fuck Joel Loasting. Tony said, probably nineteen 2859 02:21:48.520 --> 02:21:49.959 forty one. I forget what that was alluding to. 2860 02:21:50.079 --> 02:21:52.879 Now, Oh, the probably doctor Seuss theage. 2861 02:21:52.879 --> 02:21:56.600 Oh yep, yep, because the Big d afterwards said, didn't 2862 02:21:56.639 --> 02:21:59.040 doctor Seuss cheat on his wife while she had cancer? 2863 02:21:59.239 --> 02:22:02.920 Then when she married the mistress? One bitch, two bitch, 2864 02:22:03.000 --> 02:22:03.959 dead bitch, new bitch. 2865 02:22:04.600 --> 02:22:07.920 This is very accurate, very true statement. Once again, doctor 2866 02:22:08.000 --> 02:22:10.559 SEUs saw all of his like, oh but he's so great. 2867 02:22:10.600 --> 02:22:12.440 Look wh he's teaching people. Yeah, he was a raging 2868 02:22:12.440 --> 02:22:18.319 piece of shit, just saying old Greg. I'm just I'm 2869 02:22:18.319 --> 02:22:22.079 a scale a man fish. I love you guys, I 2870 02:22:22.200 --> 02:22:24.840 love you brother. I had to introduce my children to 2871 02:22:24.959 --> 02:22:26.600 old Greg and they're like, what, not all of it, 2872 02:22:26.719 --> 02:22:29.159 because you know, the whole man Gina thing. My son, 2873 02:22:29.200 --> 02:22:31.559 who's kind of old enough to understand that this is silliness, 2874 02:22:31.719 --> 02:22:33.559 was like, Dad, what the fuck is this? And I'm like, oh, 2875 02:22:33.600 --> 02:22:36.280 he didn't say that. Not allow my son to cuss 2876 02:22:36.399 --> 02:22:38.040 like that, of course, but he's like, Dad, what, And 2877 02:22:38.079 --> 02:22:40.840 I'm like, this was early YouTube, this is the Mighty 2878 02:22:40.879 --> 02:22:44.840 booshe this is British comedy and you don't understand it 2879 02:22:45.319 --> 02:22:47.760 and you're not supposed to. I sure the fuck didn't 2880 02:22:47.840 --> 02:22:50.319 understand it, but you got to understand. This was like 2881 02:22:50.600 --> 02:22:53.479 popular for the better part of two decades. Okay, you 2882 02:22:53.600 --> 02:22:58.680 know what, Old Greg is my next tattoo. I'm doing it. Yeah, 2883 02:22:58.719 --> 02:23:01.200 I might get him on the calf getting with a 2884 02:23:01.440 --> 02:23:04.040 holding of Bailey's. Do you have a drink Bailey's from 2885 02:23:04.079 --> 02:23:06.559 a shoe? You want to go to a club of 2886 02:23:06.600 --> 02:23:11.440 people way on each other? I'm gonna hurt you. What 2887 02:23:11.520 --> 02:23:16.680 do you think of me? Make an assessment? Fucking classic YouTube? 2888 02:23:17.440 --> 02:23:19.719 You know I've seen that video? I should you not? 2889 02:23:19.799 --> 02:23:21.319 Probably at least five hundred times. 2890 02:23:21.840 --> 02:23:24.440 I was saying, like every time we got drunk or 2891 02:23:24.520 --> 02:23:26.600 got high, or we were at a party or anything. 2892 02:23:26.799 --> 02:23:30.680 Every somebody was playing that that night, every single time. Yeah, 2893 02:23:31.000 --> 02:23:32.799 And there was a crowd gathered around to watch it. 2894 02:23:33.600 --> 02:23:35.840 And it got so popular that the Mighty Booshe tried 2895 02:23:35.920 --> 02:23:38.239 having a run on what was it cartoon network on 2896 02:23:38.319 --> 02:23:41.200 Adult Swim for a minute, and it did not do 2897 02:23:41.319 --> 02:23:43.399 well because they were hoping that like Old Greg would 2898 02:23:43.399 --> 02:23:45.680 be in every episode and be like a main character. No, 2899 02:23:46.600 --> 02:23:48.840 not even a little bit. It was one episode where 2900 02:23:48.959 --> 02:23:50.680 that was an appearance and the rest of the show 2901 02:23:50.840 --> 02:23:54.399 is like In Britain, the show did very well, but 2902 02:23:54.520 --> 02:23:59.639 British comedy is very, very, very very different than American cah, Yeah, 2903 02:24:00.000 --> 02:24:02.280 it's not even close. I'm curious as to how many 2904 02:24:02.399 --> 02:24:04.879 views that video has by Now, what do you if 2905 02:24:04.920 --> 02:24:06.479 you had to take a guess, what would you say 2906 02:24:07.200 --> 02:24:09.959 if if find the original too? Because there's so many 2907 02:24:10.000 --> 02:24:11.799 people that took clips of it and made it on 2908 02:24:11.840 --> 02:24:13.719 their own thing and whatever, and at this point it's 2909 02:24:13.760 --> 02:24:18.280 probably creative commons, right, But like in the beginning to now, 2910 02:24:18.479 --> 02:24:21.280 if we do find the original video, I wouldn't shock 2911 02:24:21.399 --> 02:24:25.399 me to say over fifty million, probably one hundred. I 2912 02:24:25.440 --> 02:24:25.680 don't know. 2913 02:24:26.079 --> 02:24:27.959 I'm looking at all of them, and yet it does 2914 02:24:28.000 --> 02:24:31.559 seem to be posted by many of different channels one 2915 02:24:31.600 --> 02:24:34.639 of them so, and they're all a lot like The 2916 02:24:34.760 --> 02:24:37.319 Legend of Old Greg has eight eight hundred and thirty 2917 02:24:37.319 --> 02:24:41.840 four thousand views. Just just the clip, a fifty one 2918 02:24:41.920 --> 02:24:45.200 second clip of Old Greg talking about watercolors as ninety 2919 02:24:45.200 --> 02:24:49.559 six thousand views. Old Greg Love Games a four minute 2920 02:24:49.680 --> 02:24:51.159 segment has one million views. 2921 02:24:52.559 --> 02:24:55.239 I'm Old Greg, I love man. They're playing them love 2922 02:24:55.399 --> 02:24:56.440 games A whip man. 2923 02:24:57.680 --> 02:24:59.920 Oh, I'm Old Greg from the Mighty Boosh has won 2924 02:25:00.040 --> 02:25:04.120 point seven million views. Old Greg Dash Calm three ninety 2925 02:25:04.159 --> 02:25:06.520 five has two point three million views. That was posted 2926 02:25:06.559 --> 02:25:08.719 seventeen years ago. But that's only four and a half minutes. 2927 02:25:08.840 --> 02:25:11.600 I think the original video is like fifteen minutes long 2928 02:25:11.680 --> 02:25:12.239 or something like that. 2929 02:25:12.440 --> 02:25:15.639 Right, if you take all of the like from when 2930 02:25:15.760 --> 02:25:18.680 Howard was in the water to when they rescued him, 2931 02:25:18.760 --> 02:25:20.239 and then you see old Greg on top of the 2932 02:25:20.319 --> 02:25:23.280 van at the end, Yeah, I don't Yeah, that compilation, 2933 02:25:23.360 --> 02:25:26.360 that's what I'm saying. The original got taken down and 2934 02:25:26.399 --> 02:25:28.559 then reposted and all that. There's no way to get 2935 02:25:28.600 --> 02:25:30.760 a real number of that. But again, it wouldn't shock 2936 02:25:30.920 --> 02:25:34.399 me if it's gotten over one hundred million, real shit, I. 2937 02:25:34.479 --> 02:25:37.319 Mean, and I would definitely account for a good portion 2938 02:25:37.440 --> 02:25:40.399 of those. Yeah, there's one that has three point eight 2939 02:25:40.479 --> 02:25:43.239 million views. And that's the thing, Like it was, it 2940 02:25:43.520 --> 02:25:49.479 was YouTube, you know, I mean, Ashton said, don't try 2941 02:25:49.600 --> 02:25:53.040 creating an eggergre by nutting and shitting in a single flush. 2942 02:25:55.520 --> 02:25:56.959 What the fuck don't do that? 2943 02:25:57.760 --> 02:26:00.639 Ye, Dougie said up as a blum an Egregore. 2944 02:26:01.760 --> 02:26:04.440 Oh sure, yeah, I guess if you believe in it 2945 02:26:04.520 --> 02:26:09.280 hard enough, right Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally yeah. 2946 02:26:09.399 --> 02:26:09.600 Yeah. 2947 02:26:09.840 --> 02:26:11.959 I mean, hey, we all believe in crazy shit. 2948 02:26:12.760 --> 02:26:16.159 It's just not great. It's like a fucking homunculous. 2949 02:26:17.280 --> 02:26:19.120 Oh my god, at that point it would kind of 2950 02:26:19.159 --> 02:26:21.399 be in the realm of a more homuncular thing than 2951 02:26:21.440 --> 02:26:27.319 an eggergre right, I have about my sisters. 2952 02:26:27.559 --> 02:26:30.639 Yeah, I actually have told my daughter that she's a 2953 02:26:30.719 --> 02:26:33.399 poop baby, a poop baby, and I birthed her, so, 2954 02:26:34.200 --> 02:26:39.000 oh my god. Yeah, but that's my excuse for, you know, 2955 02:26:39.079 --> 02:26:39.959 saying that she's the ship. 2956 02:26:40.120 --> 02:26:40.239 You know. 2957 02:26:41.879 --> 02:26:46.079 Doug said, if Jews and moose Lambs can't eat pork, 2958 02:26:46.239 --> 02:26:49.319 why was Ham named after a delicious pork meal. 2959 02:26:52.520 --> 02:26:55.920 It's serious because Ham in the Bible was named after pigs, all. 2960 02:26:55.840 --> 02:27:04.600 Right, Tony said to Kadisha or Kadija, if I remember 2961 02:27:04.840 --> 02:27:09.440 he married Asia or Aisha much later. Islam may be 2962 02:27:09.600 --> 02:27:12.239 pretty disgusting to modern ears, but the Old Testament is 2963 02:27:12.280 --> 02:27:13.360 also very disgusting. 2964 02:27:13.680 --> 02:27:14.040 Moses. 2965 02:27:14.159 --> 02:27:16.559 Human sacrifice numbers thirty one forty. 2966 02:27:16.600 --> 02:27:20.840 Ooh, let's look that one up. Numbers thirty one forty. 2967 02:27:20.920 --> 02:27:22.239 I got you, you got it, all right. 2968 02:27:23.000 --> 02:27:25.399 He also said, if you want to take meaning out 2969 02:27:25.440 --> 02:27:28.799 of Cinderella or Sleeping Beauty, you don't need to take 2970 02:27:28.879 --> 02:27:32.719 them literally either. It is just a flex or virtue 2971 02:27:32.799 --> 02:27:35.920 signal to say I believe this literally. I agree it's 2972 02:27:35.959 --> 02:27:39.440 a good point. Tony also said, I fully agree with 2973 02:27:39.559 --> 02:27:42.399 Jacob here. It may or may not be literally true. 2974 02:27:42.520 --> 02:27:44.840 I can't prove that it isn't, but it but it 2975 02:27:45.000 --> 02:27:48.479 isn't the most important thing to me. That's the point 2976 02:27:48.600 --> 02:27:48.920 I think. 2977 02:27:49.879 --> 02:27:53.760 Oh wow, yeah, let's have forgot about this one. And 2978 02:27:54.040 --> 02:27:56.079 forgive me for not being an expert on this one. 2979 02:27:56.159 --> 02:27:58.200 I you know, I dive into the Old Testament from 2980 02:27:58.239 --> 02:28:00.319 time to time, but I spend most of my reading 2981 02:28:00.360 --> 02:28:04.079 into the New Testament. But number thirty one forty states 2982 02:28:04.120 --> 02:28:07.239 that from the sixteen thousand captured women, thirty two were 2983 02:28:07.280 --> 02:28:10.079 given as a tribute or offering to the Lord. This 2984 02:28:10.360 --> 02:28:13.479 verse is part of a larger passage detailing the spoils 2985 02:28:13.520 --> 02:28:17.399 of war from the Israelites victory over the Midianites, which 2986 02:28:17.520 --> 02:28:21.440 was divided between the soldiers and the congregation. The context 2987 02:28:21.520 --> 02:28:24.360 of this after the battle against the Midianites, the Israelite 2988 02:28:24.399 --> 02:28:27.799 soldiers brought back plunder, including sheep, cattle, donkeys, and women 2989 02:28:29.079 --> 02:28:31.520 tribute to the Lord. A small portion was designated as 2990 02:28:31.639 --> 02:28:35.559 tribute for the Lord given to the priest ELA's Elizi 2991 02:28:35.719 --> 02:28:40.040 r Eliezar. Matter of fact, you know what we can 2992 02:28:40.280 --> 02:28:43.040 let me find the actual passage, so we can read 2993 02:28:43.120 --> 02:28:47.680 it and get the thing here. Going in and says 2994 02:28:47.719 --> 02:28:50.760 thirty one, So Moses and Eli the priest did as 2995 02:28:50.799 --> 02:28:54.200 the Lord commanded Moses. The plunder remaining from the spoils 2996 02:28:54.239 --> 02:28:56.600 that the soldiers took was six hundred and seventy five 2997 02:28:56.760 --> 02:29:01.159 thousand sheep, seventy two thousand cattle, one thousand donkeys, and 2998 02:29:01.239 --> 02:29:03.639 thirty two thousand women who had never slept with the mans. 2999 02:29:03.719 --> 02:29:04.399 They were virgins. 3000 02:29:04.959 --> 02:29:05.079 Uh. 3001 02:29:05.239 --> 02:29:07.520 The half share of those who fought in the battle 3002 02:29:07.719 --> 02:29:10.479 was Okay, hold on, hold on it, says read the 3003 02:29:10.479 --> 02:29:13.520 whole chapter where grouping the women in with the animals. Though, 3004 02:29:13.600 --> 02:29:18.040 isn't it well there plunder, what does that mean? Spoils 3005 02:29:18.079 --> 02:29:20.719 of war property, slaves? 3006 02:29:20.959 --> 02:29:21.040 Oh? 3007 02:29:21.159 --> 02:29:25.159 Gotcha? Okay? Moving and again as me saying, that does 3008 02:29:25.239 --> 02:29:27.680 not mean that I agree with slavery everyone, Just so 3009 02:29:27.760 --> 02:29:31.680 we're clear. Moving on it says Moses gave it to 3010 02:29:31.799 --> 02:29:34.920 the priests. Blah blah blah. Uh from the Israelites. Half 3011 02:29:34.959 --> 02:29:39.159 Moses elective one of every fifty people and animals, as 3012 02:29:39.200 --> 02:29:41.840 the Lord commanded him, and gave them to the Levites, 3013 02:29:42.079 --> 02:29:45.159 who were responsible for the care of the Lord's tabernacle. 3014 02:29:45.799 --> 02:29:49.319 The officers who were over the units of the army. 3015 02:29:49.440 --> 02:29:51.719 The commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds went to 3016 02:29:51.799 --> 02:29:54.159 Moses and said to him, your servants have counted the 3017 02:29:54.200 --> 02:29:56.959 soldiers under your command, and not one is missing. So 3018 02:29:57.079 --> 02:29:58.920 we have brought as an offering to the Lord the 3019 02:29:58.959 --> 02:30:03.079 gold articles. Each of us acquired armlets, bracelets, signet rings, 3020 02:30:03.120 --> 02:30:06.959 earrings and necklaces to make atonement for ourselves before the Lord. 3021 02:30:07.600 --> 02:30:11.239 Moses and Elias are accepted from the gold, all the 3022 02:30:11.280 --> 02:30:13.799 crafted articles, all the gold from the commanders thousands of 3023 02:30:13.959 --> 02:30:17.200 commanders of hundreds of Moses presented as a gift to 3024 02:30:17.280 --> 02:30:21.079 the Lord, weighing sixteen seven hundred and fifty shekels. Each 3025 02:30:21.159 --> 02:30:23.600 soldier had taken plunder for himself. Moses and Elias are 3026 02:30:23.639 --> 02:30:26.079 the priest accepted the gold. Okay, So it says that 3027 02:30:26.440 --> 02:30:30.959 they accepted these offerings for the Levite priest. I don't 3028 02:30:31.159 --> 02:30:34.360 know if it absolutely says that they were sacrificed like 3029 02:30:34.479 --> 02:30:36.840 human sacrifice. It says that they were given to the 3030 02:30:36.920 --> 02:30:39.559 Levite priest. It's very possible they worked as servants in 3031 02:30:39.639 --> 02:30:42.639 the temple. I don't know that for a fact. I'm 3032 02:30:42.680 --> 02:30:45.559 not trying to whitewash it. If it absolutely does say 3033 02:30:45.680 --> 02:30:48.239 that they killed these women as an offering to the lord, 3034 02:30:48.319 --> 02:30:51.959 then like okay, but reading the verse it does not 3035 02:30:52.239 --> 02:30:52.559 say that. 3036 02:30:53.479 --> 02:30:55.159 Yeah, I'm trying to look it up myself, and maybe 3037 02:30:55.200 --> 02:30:59.159 there's an interpretation of it somewhere. 3038 02:30:59.559 --> 02:31:01.559 Which I mean. And if you're giving over these animals 3039 02:31:01.639 --> 02:31:04.040 to the priests for sacrifice, you also have to keep 3040 02:31:04.079 --> 02:31:06.639 in mind that they had to be without blemish, They 3041 02:31:06.680 --> 02:31:09.440 had to be perfect animals in order to be sacrificed. 3042 02:31:10.079 --> 02:31:15.399 So that being said, does that mean that every single 3043 02:31:15.440 --> 02:31:18.040 thing that was given over was sacrificed or was this 3044 02:31:18.159 --> 02:31:20.520 given as tribute to the lords that the Levite priest 3045 02:31:20.600 --> 02:31:23.639 could eat of it? Right, which we've talked about that too. 3046 02:31:24.360 --> 02:31:26.639 Tithe was supposed to be a tenth of your harvest, 3047 02:31:26.680 --> 02:31:28.680 and a tenth of your your crops, the tenth of 3048 02:31:28.719 --> 02:31:32.360 your herds, all these things, And that wasn't for sacrificial purposes. 3049 02:31:32.680 --> 02:31:35.559 That was so that the Levite priest could eat, because 3050 02:31:35.559 --> 02:31:39.120 they weren't allowed to farm land. So when you would 3051 02:31:39.159 --> 02:31:42.440 give your tribute to the temple storehouse, that was so 3052 02:31:42.559 --> 02:31:45.120 that the priest and his family could survive and eat 3053 02:31:45.239 --> 02:31:49.079 and live. So when they are diving up these females. 3054 02:31:50.639 --> 02:31:53.719 Not necessarily mean that that was for sacrificial purposes. That 3055 02:31:53.840 --> 02:31:56.200 could mean that they were given over to be servants 3056 02:31:56.360 --> 02:31:59.440 in the church for whatever need to be done. Could 3057 02:31:59.479 --> 02:32:02.360 also very well mean human sacrifice. I'm not again, I'm 3058 02:32:02.399 --> 02:32:04.000 not trying to whitewash. I'm saying that we need to 3059 02:32:04.040 --> 02:32:05.479 look at the entire context. Yeah. 3060 02:32:05.520 --> 02:32:08.319 What I found is is that it was just understood 3061 02:32:08.319 --> 02:32:11.360 that they were given up as offerings, not necessarily sacrifice. 3062 02:32:11.399 --> 02:32:13.319 But I mean, either way, it's kind of weird that 3063 02:32:13.360 --> 02:32:17.319 you'd be giving up thirty two thousand virgin women as 3064 02:32:17.399 --> 02:32:21.040 an offering, like an offering to another tribe or an 3065 02:32:21.040 --> 02:32:21.760 offering to God. 3066 02:32:22.040 --> 02:32:24.479 Right, it was to God, I think to the Levites, 3067 02:32:24.920 --> 02:32:28.760 the priests, o'kay. Anyway, Yeah, I don't know enough about it, 3068 02:32:28.879 --> 02:32:31.000 but it's interesting. 3069 02:32:31.559 --> 02:32:35.239 Yeah, spirit animals said, anyone, anyone want a bong or 3070 02:32:35.280 --> 02:32:37.120 rip with bong rip with me? 3071 02:32:38.120 --> 02:32:39.159 For Dale? Of course? 3072 02:32:39.280 --> 02:32:43.239 For of course, Tony said, And now I agree with Jonathan. 3073 02:32:43.280 --> 02:32:45.959 The worldwide flood does not make sense. Local floods, yes, 3074 02:32:46.079 --> 02:32:49.200 but conservation of mass begs the question where did enough 3075 02:32:49.280 --> 02:32:52.120 water to cover Mount Everest come from? And where did 3076 02:32:52.159 --> 02:32:54.120 it go? Some mysterious vaults. 3077 02:32:54.719 --> 02:32:54.920 Yeah. 3078 02:32:55.600 --> 02:32:58.959 Yes, some people survived floods on boats. That's where the 3079 02:32:59.000 --> 02:33:03.920 story came from. All right, Tony wants that smoke, baby, 3080 02:33:04.360 --> 02:33:05.719 He's trying no. 3081 02:33:05.799 --> 02:33:08.159 But that's the thing. Tony is a free and independent 3082 02:33:08.280 --> 02:33:10.760 human being that has formulated his own ideas as far 3083 02:33:10.840 --> 02:33:13.879 as the Old Testament is concerned, but still finds truth 3084 02:33:13.920 --> 02:33:16.000 in the Bible enough to call himself a Catholic. So 3085 02:33:16.200 --> 02:33:19.879 like cool, you know, I don't think and for the record, 3086 02:33:19.959 --> 02:33:23.520 I don't believe that if you don't believe in Noah's flood, 3087 02:33:23.600 --> 02:33:26.719 then you're condemning your soul to hell. I don't believe 3088 02:33:26.760 --> 02:33:29.600 that it's required to believe Noah's flood for you to 3089 02:33:29.680 --> 02:33:32.920 attain salvation, just so we're clear, or that the earth 3090 02:33:33.000 --> 02:33:35.479 is flat, or that David did the things that he 3091 02:33:35.600 --> 02:33:39.479 said he did, or the Jonah and the Whale. I 3092 02:33:39.520 --> 02:33:41.639 don't believe that you have to believe these things in 3093 02:33:41.799 --> 02:33:44.719 order to attain salvation. It's not a salvation issue in 3094 02:33:44.760 --> 02:33:45.639 my personal opinion. 3095 02:33:47.040 --> 02:33:49.399 Yeah, but you do have to believe that Dougie gives 3096 02:33:49.440 --> 02:33:53.239 blumpkins in order for you to achieve salvation, fact order 3097 02:33:53.239 --> 02:33:53.600 for you to be. 3098 02:33:53.559 --> 02:33:56.079 A cult member, you do the way the Dougie gives 3099 02:33:56.200 --> 02:33:57.719 blunkins or receives them. 3100 02:33:58.200 --> 02:34:01.040 Hold on now, wow, okay, yeah I should have Well, 3101 02:34:01.200 --> 02:34:02.920 I don't know. Maybe he's just for it either way. 3102 02:34:03.399 --> 02:34:05.639 Doug way in on this, because we really can't make 3103 02:34:05.680 --> 02:34:07.719 a distinction one way or another. We have a resident 3104 02:34:07.760 --> 02:34:10.760 trans correspondence, we have a resident furry correspondent. We got 3105 02:34:11.399 --> 02:34:14.520 letsbian correspondence, we got Where are you at with this, Dougie? 3106 02:34:14.520 --> 02:34:16.239 Are you giving or receiving blumpkins? 3107 02:34:16.719 --> 02:34:16.840 Uh? 3108 02:34:17.040 --> 02:34:19.559 I think it's better to give than to receive. 3109 02:34:20.120 --> 02:34:23.879 Oh, for the love of God, Dougy, you wold? 3110 02:34:24.319 --> 02:34:27.159 I mean, you know, fiend's going fiend? You know what 3111 02:34:27.200 --> 02:34:29.360 I mean, It doesn't matter the circumstance. 3112 02:34:31.200 --> 02:34:34.639 It's weird, the circumstance of the circumcision. 3113 02:34:35.280 --> 02:34:39.760 Kay, oh my god. 3114 02:34:40.120 --> 02:34:43.120 Doug said Jonathan needs a bomb rip. He's going to 3115 02:34:43.200 --> 02:34:45.440 have a stroke, you know what. And some people think 3116 02:34:45.479 --> 02:34:48.559 that I get like so like crazy and out there. 3117 02:34:48.680 --> 02:34:49.079 Maybe I do. 3118 02:34:49.440 --> 02:34:51.760 Somebody said that I sound like fucking Seinfeld whenever I 3119 02:34:51.799 --> 02:34:52.479 get high pitched. 3120 02:34:53.920 --> 02:34:58.239 Really, I have never heard you sound like Jerry Seinfeld. Yeah. 3121 02:34:58.360 --> 02:35:00.040 I also like my women a little bit older, and 3122 02:35:00.159 --> 02:35:02.040 Jerry likes them so just want to throw that one 3123 02:35:02.079 --> 02:35:04.639 out there, uh. 3124 02:35:06.280 --> 02:35:08.879 Ashton said, Bro, these guys are Yin and Yang. 3125 02:35:09.399 --> 02:35:10.959 Yes we are. I think so. 3126 02:35:12.319 --> 02:35:14.559 Jacob's the sun for obvious reasons, and I will be 3127 02:35:14.680 --> 02:35:19.120 the moon, the goddess of the night, the goddess, uh 3128 02:35:19.280 --> 02:35:23.079 Tony said. Who wrote the Old Testament? Probably four authors 3129 02:35:23.200 --> 02:35:25.280 as proposed here. And I can't pull up the picture 3130 02:35:25.360 --> 02:35:26.959 some reason. It doesn't let me get all the pictures 3131 02:35:26.959 --> 02:35:27.399 in the chat. 3132 02:35:27.879 --> 02:35:30.760 It's the same, the same. But also when you say 3133 02:35:30.799 --> 02:35:32.600 the Old Testament, you mean the Torah? Or do you 3134 02:35:32.680 --> 02:35:35.799 mean the entirety of the Old Testament? Because actually, you 3135 02:35:35.840 --> 02:35:38.360 know what I could uh, I looked up an image 3136 02:35:38.360 --> 02:35:41.000 of this here the other day. Let me see here 3137 02:35:42.360 --> 02:35:44.120 who wrote the ot? 3138 02:35:44.840 --> 02:35:47.559 I thought that was believed to be Moses. Well for 3139 02:35:47.639 --> 02:35:50.879 the Torah, it was for the first five books. Let's 3140 02:35:50.920 --> 02:35:54.440 see here. Moses is credited with writing the first five 3141 02:35:54.440 --> 02:35:58.239 books of the Torah. David wrote Psalms, Solomon wrote, you know, 3142 02:35:58.799 --> 02:36:02.280 the wisdom literature. It also includes writing from various prophets 3143 02:36:02.280 --> 02:36:06.959 such as Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel, contributions from other figures 3144 02:36:07.040 --> 02:36:11.680 like Ezra and Nehemiah, and lesser known individuals. Yeah, and 3145 02:36:11.719 --> 02:36:13.639 then there's also a couple of them that are writing 3146 02:36:13.799 --> 02:36:16.159 as contemporaries of each other. I want to say it 3147 02:36:16.239 --> 02:36:20.239 was the Book of Daniel, the Book of Malachi, and 3148 02:36:20.840 --> 02:36:22.559 one no, no, no, Malachi was the last one written, 3149 02:36:22.559 --> 02:36:24.600 and that was written by Malachi. But yeah, so, I 3150 02:36:24.680 --> 02:36:27.559 mean the Old Testament was written by you know, a 3151 02:36:28.399 --> 02:36:32.600 few people, not just four. But you know, Tony said, 3152 02:36:32.879 --> 02:36:35.840 all the time, Western mainstream media is telling us how 3153 02:36:35.920 --> 02:36:39.200 I ran as some fantastic wasteland where religion other than 3154 02:36:39.479 --> 02:36:43.559 Islam can't breathe. Then Taran opens a Holy Virgin Mary 3155 02:36:43.680 --> 02:36:46.680 metro station covered in Christian symbols, and the whole story 3156 02:36:46.760 --> 02:36:49.840 falls apart. Turns out we what we've been fed is 3157 02:36:49.879 --> 02:36:52.520 in truth. It's propaganda to push a certain narrative. I 3158 02:36:52.959 --> 02:36:58.239 actually saw this literally earlier today, and they I correct 3159 02:36:58.280 --> 02:37:00.719 me if I'm wrong. Like they do ignoreledge Jesus and 3160 02:37:00.879 --> 02:37:06.840 Mary as real people, so like the Islam Oh yeah. 3161 02:37:06.760 --> 02:37:09.520 Absolutely they do. But they don't believe that Jesus actually 3162 02:37:09.600 --> 02:37:12.079 died on the cross. They think that his spirit was 3163 02:37:12.159 --> 02:37:14.000 on the cross and it was the image of him, 3164 02:37:14.079 --> 02:37:18.200 but not the actual physical hymn. They acknowledged Mary to 3165 02:37:18.239 --> 02:37:20.239 be a real person, but they believe that she was 3166 02:37:20.559 --> 02:37:23.079 raped by a Roman soldier. And that's where we get 3167 02:37:23.159 --> 02:37:26.360 the quote unquote immaculate conception story. When you look at 3168 02:37:26.360 --> 02:37:29.399 what the Islam believe, it is extremely gnostic. And the 3169 02:37:29.479 --> 02:37:32.040 reason for that is because, like we said earlier, Mohammed 3170 02:37:32.159 --> 02:37:34.559 was illiterate and he was a war lord that was 3171 02:37:34.600 --> 02:37:35.760 operating on the Silk. 3172 02:37:35.559 --> 02:37:39.360 Road, and the Gnostics don't compare him to that. The 3173 02:37:39.360 --> 02:37:41.479 Gnostics were very well read. As a matter of fact, 3174 02:37:41.520 --> 02:37:45.319 they were seen as a hierarchical thing because the random 3175 02:37:45.559 --> 02:37:48.440 Joes and Josephines of the world couldn't understand it. 3176 02:37:49.000 --> 02:37:50.840 No, no, no, I'm not saying the Nastics were reliterate, 3177 02:37:50.920 --> 02:37:53.319 not at all. What I'm saying is that he was 3178 02:37:53.399 --> 02:37:56.239 a illiterate war lord that was operating on the Silk Road. 3179 02:37:56.559 --> 02:38:00.879 And during this time, stories were traversing the Silk Road, right, 3180 02:38:00.920 --> 02:38:02.799 which is why a lot of the Gnostics also had 3181 02:38:02.840 --> 02:38:05.440 some Manicheism within them that they would like kind of 3182 02:38:05.479 --> 02:38:07.840 get down with in certain regards, which was a Chinese thing. 3183 02:38:08.559 --> 02:38:11.319 But it was stories that he had heard, and it 3184 02:38:11.399 --> 02:38:13.040 wasn't even like he had heard the entire story. He 3185 02:38:13.120 --> 02:38:16.159 heard bits and pieces of certain stories. Some of them 3186 02:38:16.200 --> 02:38:18.559 were Biblical, some of them were Gnostics, some of them 3187 02:38:18.600 --> 02:38:22.840 were Tyranic, some of them were Zoroastrian. Like he heard 3188 02:38:22.959 --> 02:38:24.639 little bits from here and there and then kind of 3189 02:38:24.719 --> 02:38:27.760 eclectically compiled them all to be his thing and then said, oh, 3190 02:38:28.159 --> 02:38:30.600 I got this wisdom from Alla, and it was a 3191 02:38:30.639 --> 02:38:33.840 whole thing. But like he himself had done no research 3192 02:38:33.920 --> 02:38:36.000 into any of it. And it's very clear if you 3193 02:38:36.040 --> 02:38:37.920 ever look at the Koran itself. 3194 02:38:38.159 --> 02:38:41.159 Which does kind of beg the question, like, is you 3195 02:38:41.239 --> 02:38:43.799 know what I was trying to say about how the 3196 02:38:44.040 --> 02:38:47.000 basically the Gnostics were genocided. Is that kind of what 3197 02:38:47.360 --> 02:38:50.799 is transpiring in the Middle East? You know, if you 3198 02:38:50.840 --> 02:38:53.319 think about it, like Israel has been trying to pull 3199 02:38:53.399 --> 02:38:57.120 us into their Middle Eastern wars for forever, And I mean, 3200 02:38:57.520 --> 02:38:59.600 is it a religious matter? 3201 02:39:01.079 --> 02:39:04.440 For them? It's a survival matter but also a religious matter. 3202 02:39:04.520 --> 02:39:06.680 They don't they see the two is connected. No, No, 3203 02:39:07.280 --> 02:39:11.479 from Israel's perspective, Yeah, oh okay, So for Israel, they 3204 02:39:11.479 --> 02:39:13.680 see it as a religious and a survival thing the 3205 02:39:13.840 --> 02:39:17.360 Islamic world surrounds them. But also keep in mind most 3206 02:39:17.360 --> 02:39:20.719 of the Islamic world doesn't give a fuck about what's 3207 02:39:20.760 --> 02:39:23.319 going on with Gaza. They'll claim that they do, but 3208 02:39:23.360 --> 02:39:25.159 they don't. Actually, if they did, they would do something 3209 02:39:25.200 --> 02:39:28.399 about it. They're not. And then if you could also, 3210 02:39:28.680 --> 02:39:31.360 there's so many clips of these college kids that are 3211 02:39:31.440 --> 02:39:33.920 Muslim women that are wearing the whole hood job and 3212 02:39:33.959 --> 02:39:36.840 all this stuff. And this this dude that was speaking 3213 02:39:36.840 --> 02:39:38.239 as a matter of fact, he's a Jewish guy, and 3214 02:39:38.280 --> 02:39:40.680 he's like, real quick, I'm just gonna ask you point blank. 3215 02:39:41.239 --> 02:39:43.399 In the Quran it says that all the Jews should 3216 02:39:43.399 --> 02:39:46.159 be rounded up and executed? Do you believe that? And 3217 02:39:46.280 --> 02:39:48.719 she's like, well, you cannot ask me this because obviously 3218 02:39:48.879 --> 02:39:50.639 if I have to say this and have to say this, 3219 02:39:50.760 --> 02:39:52.360 and you're putting me in a bad position and it's 3220 02:39:52.399 --> 02:39:54.360 in the bad light in the wrong context. He's like, no, no, no, 3221 02:39:54.920 --> 02:39:57.959 I am asking you as an individual. Do you believe 3222 02:39:58.040 --> 02:40:02.000 that all Jews shouldn't indeed didn't say Israelites, he didn't 3223 02:40:02.000 --> 02:40:04.040 say people in the nation of Israel. He said all 3224 02:40:04.239 --> 02:40:07.559 Jews should be rounded up and executed. And are you 3225 02:40:07.719 --> 02:40:11.079 four or against this? And she goes four. He's like, well, 3226 02:40:11.120 --> 02:40:12.479 then I have nothing more to say to you. 3227 02:40:13.680 --> 02:40:16.159 Yeah, I mean, that's why beliefs are dangerous. You know, 3228 02:40:17.040 --> 02:40:19.959 I think that, you know, beliefs are out of convenience. 3229 02:40:20.000 --> 02:40:22.959 That's just personally my opinion. But I will say that 3230 02:40:23.200 --> 02:40:27.920 even even interestingly so, I've seen countless videos of Christian 3231 02:40:28.079 --> 02:40:31.399 proselytizers that go down to Israel and they try and 3232 02:40:31.520 --> 02:40:33.799 convert Jews over to Christianity, and they are not. 3233 02:40:35.120 --> 02:40:38.399 No, that is not a thing. You who isra don't 3234 02:40:38.440 --> 02:40:41.879 get down with that. They do not down with proselytizing, 3235 02:40:42.680 --> 02:40:45.600 right right, Blumken your word, sir. 3236 02:40:49.200 --> 02:40:52.319 Going back to Jesus dying on the cross, have you 3237 02:40:52.440 --> 02:40:58.280 guys heard the theory that Barabbas was the name Barabbas 3238 02:40:58.440 --> 02:41:02.600 means son of the Father, and that there's some kind 3239 02:41:02.600 --> 02:41:06.079 of conspiracy that maybe he was Jesus or something like that. 3240 02:41:07.000 --> 02:41:13.239 So Barrabas' first name was Jesus. That's that's the catch 3241 02:41:13.319 --> 02:41:15.959 twenty two of this poncious pilot says, I have two 3242 02:41:16.440 --> 02:41:20.319 Jesuses here, Should I crucify this one or that one? 3243 02:41:20.959 --> 02:41:24.159 They listed him as Barrabas to show a distinction between 3244 02:41:24.479 --> 02:41:27.840 the son of God and the criminal. But understand that, yeah, 3245 02:41:27.920 --> 02:41:31.440 Barrabas' first name actually was Jesus. Jesus was like the 3246 02:41:31.600 --> 02:41:36.760 fifth most popular name during this time in Israel. It 3247 02:41:36.879 --> 02:41:39.440 was a very popular name. It's like I have two 3248 02:41:39.600 --> 02:41:43.040 John's here. I have John Smith and John Wilson. Which 3249 02:41:43.200 --> 02:41:46.200 John should I crucify? Kind of thing. It was, yeah, 3250 02:41:46.440 --> 02:41:49.639 pretty wild, which I mean technically it wasn't Jesus. It 3251 02:41:49.920 --> 02:41:54.559 was you know, it was Yeshuah, which later into the 3252 02:41:54.639 --> 02:41:58.280 Greek was Jesus, which later to the Latin became Jesus, 3253 02:41:58.440 --> 02:42:00.440 which we now know it as. But yeah, that was 3254 02:42:00.520 --> 02:42:06.479 a very common name during that time. Okay, um, he said, 3255 02:42:06.840 --> 02:42:07.399 Tony said. 3256 02:42:07.520 --> 02:42:10.399 Iran will soon open the Holy Mary metro station near 3257 02:42:10.520 --> 02:42:13.559 Saint Sarcas Church in Tehran. A beautiful symbol of respect 3258 02:42:13.639 --> 02:42:15.399 and harmony among faiths in Iran. 3259 02:42:16.559 --> 02:42:22.000 Interesting, that's wild. Iran is not known for being very 3260 02:42:22.680 --> 02:42:26.239 open and cool with people of different faiths at all. 3261 02:42:26.559 --> 02:42:29.200 As a matter of fact, the Iyahtola has been very 3262 02:42:29.319 --> 02:42:31.000 clear about that. But okay, but. 3263 02:42:31.040 --> 02:42:33.719 Does the Iatola speak on behalf of every individual living there? 3264 02:42:33.840 --> 02:42:36.600 I think? Is he speaks on behalf of an entire 3265 02:42:36.680 --> 02:42:40.040 sect of Islam. Yeah, he's seen as the pope of 3266 02:42:40.200 --> 02:42:43.399 that group. Does this? Does the pope speak for you? No, 3267 02:42:43.639 --> 02:42:44.799 he speaks for all Catholics. 3268 02:42:46.040 --> 02:42:51.600 Okay, mmmmm, Sam said hashtag snow globe earth m hm 3269 02:42:52.280 --> 02:42:55.280 uh sure, Tony said. The guy who does the Bible episodes, 3270 02:42:55.399 --> 02:42:58.200 Josh Monday said that the biblical flat earth is is 3271 02:42:58.319 --> 02:43:02.639 a required belief binding, as in, God will be disappointed 3272 02:43:02.719 --> 02:43:04.799 in or angry with you if you don't believe it. 3273 02:43:05.079 --> 02:43:05.680 Did he say that? 3274 02:43:06.479 --> 02:43:09.600 I respectfully disagree with Josh Monday on that point. I 3275 02:43:09.680 --> 02:43:14.479 believe that it is completely disassociated from being a salvation issue. 3276 02:43:14.479 --> 02:43:16.920 You believe that the earth is flat or around does 3277 02:43:17.280 --> 02:43:21.559 nothing for or against Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, so 3278 02:43:21.719 --> 02:43:24.079 that it's nothing that we should be arguing over. To 3279 02:43:24.200 --> 02:43:28.159 the point of God, it's a requirement to make it 3280 02:43:28.239 --> 02:43:32.719 to heaven. That's silly in my personal opinion, Joe said. 3281 02:43:33.120 --> 02:43:35.760 Joe from Australia said, Hey, shout out to Blueie, most 3282 02:43:35.799 --> 02:43:38.159 famous AUSSI I swear dude, blue is the shit. 3283 02:43:39.000 --> 02:43:41.760 Yeah, Louis. And that's something that like, I actually enjoy 3284 02:43:41.840 --> 02:43:45.319 watching with my kid. And there's a group of parents 3285 02:43:45.399 --> 02:43:47.799 that actually don't allow their children to watch it. Why 3286 02:43:48.000 --> 02:43:52.159 because the parents don't actually correct their kids ever, They 3287 02:43:52.319 --> 02:43:54.559 like allow their kids to have these crazy fits and 3288 02:43:54.600 --> 02:43:56.239 these tantrums and all this stuff and then work it 3289 02:43:56.239 --> 02:43:58.680 out later instead of fucking shopping ass when is needed. 3290 02:43:58.719 --> 02:44:01.360 And it's like, I mean, everybody has their own way 3291 02:44:01.399 --> 02:44:03.319 of parenting. If you feel that way, definitely don't watch 3292 02:44:03.360 --> 02:44:06.040 Pepa Pig because that little shit I can't stand her. 3293 02:44:06.159 --> 02:44:08.760 Dude, Fuck Pepa Pig and fuck Kyu too. 3294 02:44:10.760 --> 02:44:13.680 Smoker of Trees said Steve Irwin. He is a pretty 3295 02:44:13.680 --> 02:44:15.600 popular one, all right. 3296 02:44:15.600 --> 02:44:18.440 I think he might be the most popular Aussie actually 3297 02:44:18.479 --> 02:44:20.239 out loud Blue. He might be giving him a run 3298 02:44:20.319 --> 02:44:22.479 for his money these days. But we know Steve, We 3299 02:44:22.719 --> 02:44:28.719 remember Steve never Indeed, it's really sad what's happening to 3300 02:44:28.840 --> 02:44:33.000 his land right now too? His kids carrying the George though, do. 3301 02:44:33.079 --> 02:44:36.120 I saym I was gonna ask what's going on with 3302 02:44:36.239 --> 02:44:37.280 his land? 3303 02:44:37.920 --> 02:44:41.479 So the land that he acquired was uh, he was 3304 02:44:41.639 --> 02:44:45.000 using it as basically a wildlife refuge, right and he 3305 02:44:45.159 --> 02:44:46.959 was doing very well with it. But once he died, 3306 02:44:47.760 --> 02:44:51.639 his family stopped bringing in the amount of income that 3307 02:44:51.719 --> 02:44:53.840 he was able to bring in because he was like, 3308 02:44:54.040 --> 02:44:56.559 the guy wasn't just the TV show, was the donations 3309 02:44:56.719 --> 02:44:58.799 and the TV show and his other stuff that he 3310 02:44:58.920 --> 02:45:02.799 was doing that able to fund this wildlife refuge center. 3311 02:45:03.360 --> 02:45:05.879 And because the money isn't flowing in like it once did, 3312 02:45:05.959 --> 02:45:10.280 the Australian government has been seizing massive chunks of their land, 3313 02:45:10.920 --> 02:45:14.600 and uh, the Irwin family is a at least the 3314 02:45:14.680 --> 02:45:17.719 Irwin Project is a shell of what it once was. 3315 02:45:18.760 --> 02:45:21.799 It's actually pretty heartbreaking the scene. His kids are struggling 3316 02:45:22.000 --> 02:45:24.840 and giving it everything they can to keep their dad's 3317 02:45:24.879 --> 02:45:27.959 hopes and dreams alive here. But it's I mean, you 3318 02:45:28.040 --> 02:45:29.959 can't replace the guy, you know. It's not like they're 3319 02:45:30.000 --> 02:45:33.200 trying by any means. But yeah, the Australian government is 3320 02:45:33.319 --> 02:45:36.920 seizing the opportunity and reclaiming a lot of that land 3321 02:45:37.079 --> 02:45:38.200 and it's it's heartbreaking. 3322 02:45:38.479 --> 02:45:41.000 Have you ever seen that movie called Strange Wilderness with 3323 02:45:41.120 --> 02:45:41.600 Steve's on? 3324 02:45:42.879 --> 02:45:43.559 I feel like I have. 3325 02:45:43.840 --> 02:45:45.680 It's a I mean, it's awesome movie, but it kind 3326 02:45:45.719 --> 02:45:50.159 of reminds me of the Irwins in a way. Great movie, 3327 02:45:50.200 --> 02:45:56.479 it's hilarious. Doug said, Uh, well, he posted a picture 3328 02:45:56.520 --> 02:45:59.799 of blue chew unavoidable guide for the latest powerful rectile 3329 02:46:00.040 --> 02:46:03.760 function medicine that quickly restores restores men's performance in bed, 3330 02:46:04.280 --> 02:46:06.840 and then it says sponsor of the COEC the k 3331 02:46:07.200 --> 02:46:07.639 is silent. 3332 02:46:09.040 --> 02:46:11.399 Ah love it, I will say no, fuck it. Blue 3333 02:46:11.479 --> 02:46:14.159 Choo has never offered us a sponsorship deal. Look, I'm down, 3334 02:46:14.920 --> 02:46:17.399 we give we do ad reads for Adam and Eve. 3335 02:46:17.760 --> 02:46:19.200 I would be down to do an ad read for 3336 02:46:19.280 --> 02:46:21.520 blue Choo, but they have never reached out to us. 3337 02:46:21.959 --> 02:46:26.879 Yeah, it's unfortunate, man, where we Ashton said. There's a 3338 02:46:26.959 --> 02:46:29.680 timestamp in the most recent episode around the one hour 3339 02:46:29.799 --> 02:46:33.680 mark where Jonathan says liquid assets. But I heard liquid 3340 02:46:33.799 --> 02:46:36.840 ass at first, as in the fart spray. 3341 02:46:37.879 --> 02:46:41.959 Ah, that's great, that's great. I've pranked a few people 3342 02:46:42.000 --> 02:46:44.159 in my time with some fart spray for sure to 3343 02:46:44.319 --> 02:46:50.239 be alive, said, got to bleach the anus. Sure, Yeah, 3344 02:46:50.440 --> 02:46:53.360 I'm not gonna knock somebody for that one. But you know, 3345 02:46:54.760 --> 02:46:56.879 I feel like it's very weird for somebody to be 3346 02:46:57.079 --> 02:47:00.079 so concerned with the color of their own asshole that 3347 02:47:00.159 --> 02:47:03.200 they want to go through the process of altering that. Again, 3348 02:47:03.239 --> 02:47:06.239 I'm not gonna, you know, shit on some wow freezing. 3349 02:47:06.719 --> 02:47:10.200 I'm not going to judge someone for wanting to improve 3350 02:47:10.280 --> 02:47:12.799 their own body, but like, of all the things on 3351 02:47:12.879 --> 02:47:15.799 your body, you could be concerned with the color of 3352 02:47:15.959 --> 02:47:21.319 your butthole. Is that much of an issue for you 3353 02:47:21.440 --> 02:47:23.719 that you want to pay good money to have that altered. 3354 02:47:23.799 --> 02:47:26.559 I mean, get after it, you know, sure. 3355 02:47:26.879 --> 02:47:31.760 I mean that being said, I'm not a big fan 3356 02:47:31.959 --> 02:47:33.799 of the discoloration in that area. 3357 02:47:33.879 --> 02:47:34.760 It kind of throws me off. 3358 02:47:36.239 --> 02:47:38.239 I can't say that I've ever really paid that much 3359 02:47:38.280 --> 02:47:41.520 attention big dog, you know. I mean, you're the one 3360 02:47:41.559 --> 02:47:43.159 that's punching balloon knots over there, sir. 3361 02:47:43.840 --> 02:47:46.840 I mean, yeah, but I've never thought, huh oh no, 3362 02:47:47.879 --> 02:47:50.319 that color is very different from the rest of the cheeks. 3363 02:47:50.399 --> 02:47:51.639 I should walk away now. 3364 02:47:52.600 --> 02:47:52.879 I don't know. 3365 02:47:52.879 --> 02:47:55.239 It just reminds me of like, man, can we be 3366 02:47:55.319 --> 02:47:58.159 sure that this person wiped well enough? No, that's why 3367 02:47:58.159 --> 02:48:00.000 I say, straight out the shower. That's the only way 3368 02:48:00.079 --> 02:48:02.840 to fly. Hey, you never know, sometimes a fart escapes you. 3369 02:48:04.559 --> 02:48:09.440 So yeah, yeah, okay, fair enough. I've never had that 3370 02:48:09.559 --> 02:48:13.040 happen to me. But I mean, I suppose it's a thing. 3371 02:48:13.559 --> 02:48:18.000 I mean, you trying to say that you've never falsely 3372 02:48:18.280 --> 02:48:19.079 trusted a fart. 3373 02:48:20.159 --> 02:48:24.399 Oh No, no, I'm saying that I've never accidentally sucked 3374 02:48:24.399 --> 02:48:27.440 in a fart while tongue punching a balloon. No, that's 3375 02:48:27.479 --> 02:48:29.680 all I'm saying I'm sure it has happened to many, 3376 02:48:30.079 --> 02:48:32.440 to many a good soldier out there. I'm just I'm 3377 02:48:32.479 --> 02:48:35.040 saying that I've been lucky enough that I've never had 3378 02:48:35.040 --> 02:48:36.719 it happen to me ever. 3379 02:48:37.120 --> 02:48:40.440 But you know, cool, Yeah, Ashton said, Jonathan is a 3380 02:48:40.479 --> 02:48:42.159 student of the dark lord. 3381 02:48:44.319 --> 02:48:49.559 Meth in hell Satan. Uh so go that route, but 3382 02:48:49.639 --> 02:48:51.520 you won't eat ass. That blows my fucking mind. 3383 02:48:52.360 --> 02:48:55.600 I go that route joking, eating ass is a real thing. 3384 02:48:55.760 --> 02:48:59.920 There ain't no way. So was that devil promise you? 3385 02:49:00.440 --> 02:49:01.399 M maybe? 3386 02:49:03.280 --> 02:49:09.200 Oh God, white boy wizard said blum Oculus. Blum Oculus 3387 02:49:10.120 --> 02:49:15.840 like a blumpkin. Yeah, the oculus, Ashton said. Don't break 3388 02:49:15.959 --> 02:49:17.239 bread break ham. 3389 02:49:18.159 --> 02:49:20.639 A monculous bloo mounculus. 3390 02:49:21.079 --> 02:49:25.040 Ah, I dig it, I dig it. And also, don't 3391 02:49:25.040 --> 02:49:27.639 break bread break ham. Listen, I'm all about cracking a 3392 02:49:27.719 --> 02:49:30.399 slice of bacon and sherry. You know, I hear that, 3393 02:49:30.719 --> 02:49:31.760 not me, It's all mine. 3394 02:49:33.959 --> 02:49:36.559 Joe said, wish I could blaze with the cult. Sadly, 3395 02:49:36.840 --> 02:49:40.399 I work through the live I feel that. Hey, thanks 3396 02:49:40.440 --> 02:49:42.239 for keeping us around. Hopefully we can make your shift 3397 02:49:42.280 --> 02:49:43.200 go by a little bit faster. 3398 02:49:45.079 --> 02:49:45.799 Ashton said. 3399 02:49:46.120 --> 02:49:51.239 Jacob loves Israel because biblical Jacob becomes Israel sarcasm. 3400 02:49:52.600 --> 02:49:56.239 Uh, yeah, sure, that's a theory. I know you're making 3401 02:49:56.280 --> 02:49:59.719 a joker, Ashton, but no, I I have my own 3402 02:49:59.719 --> 02:50:03.399 reason for supporting the nation of Israel, not net in 3403 02:50:03.520 --> 02:50:07.120 Yahoo or there. I'm not. I don't get down with 3404 02:50:07.159 --> 02:50:11.360 the whole ultra Zionist bullshit, but supporting the nation of 3405 02:50:11.479 --> 02:50:14.280 Israel existing, yeah, yeah, I would. I agree with that, 3406 02:50:14.760 --> 02:50:17.440 you know, and some people would say that makes me 3407 02:50:17.559 --> 02:50:22.479 aschatologists too, And no, really, I also believe that Kurdistan 3408 02:50:22.559 --> 02:50:25.639 should be a place. Just we're all clear. I believe 3409 02:50:25.680 --> 02:50:27.399 the Kurds should have their own land. 3410 02:50:27.520 --> 02:50:29.639 What about the Nos? You think the Gnostics should have 3411 02:50:29.639 --> 02:50:30.680 had their own land at one point? 3412 02:50:31.120 --> 02:50:32.760 No, I'm glad they're all burned at the stake. Fuck. 3413 02:50:32.879 --> 02:50:38.520 Oh my good god, you fuck cat ours. I'm joking, bro, 3414 02:50:39.120 --> 02:50:42.879 But no, the Gnostics don't claim any sect or area 3415 02:50:42.959 --> 02:50:46.639 of land is there inherent you know, given by God 3416 02:50:46.959 --> 02:50:49.840 birthright place. They believe that everything in this physical reality 3417 02:50:49.959 --> 02:50:53.000 is evil, so they muld say that any plot of 3418 02:50:53.079 --> 02:50:55.239 land is evil as well. But that being said, I 3419 02:50:55.280 --> 02:50:57.840 don't think that it's right just to say, well, God 3420 02:50:57.920 --> 02:51:01.840 gave us this and now it's ours. Shit, that's how 3421 02:51:02.040 --> 02:51:06.319 South Africa became a country. Umm, pop goes the weasel said. 3422 02:51:06.360 --> 02:51:09.760 Fuck Pepa and Coco melon both have adverse effects on children. 3423 02:51:09.959 --> 02:51:13.000 Neither are allowed in our house. Coca Melon's definitely not allowed. 3424 02:51:14.000 --> 02:51:19.639 Pepa Pig, my son, he he got to it and 3425 02:51:20.000 --> 02:51:21.559 there's no taking him back from it right now. 3426 02:51:21.879 --> 02:51:25.520 Unfortunately, Coco melon does not play in my house. Cocomelon 3427 02:51:25.559 --> 02:51:25.799 will not. 3428 02:51:26.000 --> 02:51:29.239 Yeah, Coca melon. There's a couple other ones. Uh, Masha 3429 02:51:29.319 --> 02:51:29.719 and the Bear. 3430 02:51:30.200 --> 02:51:31.959 No, not with that one. I'll tell you what. We 3431 02:51:32.040 --> 02:51:35.040 get down with Little Einstein. Yeah, it's like we're about 3432 02:51:35.079 --> 02:51:37.680 that little Einstein like up in this house and Blueie, 3433 02:51:37.840 --> 02:51:41.680 we get down with that. Also, Zuboomafu for any of 3434 02:51:41.719 --> 02:51:43.360 the real ones out there that know about that. The 3435 02:51:43.440 --> 02:51:46.000 Crat brothers that have the little leaping lemur and they 3436 02:51:46.120 --> 02:51:48.159 they do animal shit. That's what we about up in 3437 02:51:48.239 --> 02:51:51.559 this house. My four year old just discovered the wild 3438 02:51:51.680 --> 02:51:55.120 Crats and I'm like, oh, oh, you're going back to 3439 02:51:55.319 --> 02:51:57.559 my time when I was your age. Sit down, son, 3440 02:51:57.680 --> 02:51:58.079 let's do this. 3441 02:51:58.200 --> 02:52:00.479 Also, dragon ball z we get down with the dude, 3442 02:52:00.520 --> 02:52:03.520 my favorite. Whenever my daughter was growing up. I mean 3443 02:52:03.559 --> 02:52:05.079 she's still grown up, but back whenever she was a 3444 02:52:05.120 --> 02:52:09.040 little girl. Dude, Octin Odds went hard. That was one 3445 02:52:09.040 --> 02:52:09.760 of my favorites. 3446 02:52:10.200 --> 02:52:15.239 Yeah, you mean the the the propaganda side of Hydra. 3447 02:52:16.040 --> 02:52:19.040 Oh my god, get him. 3448 02:52:21.399 --> 02:52:23.879 I don't have the photo anymore, but I sent y' 3449 02:52:23.879 --> 02:52:25.639 all the photo of that one time before. 3450 02:52:26.040 --> 02:52:31.040 All it is is the the Kindergarten version of of Hydra. 3451 02:52:33.079 --> 02:52:36.799 Gives Creature Report a whole different ring now, doesn't Creature Report. 3452 02:52:39.840 --> 02:52:42.280 Little Einstein's was pretty good? But do you all remember? 3453 02:52:45.360 --> 02:52:47.799 Yeah, I still have I have the complete I have 3454 02:52:47.920 --> 02:52:49.760 the complete series on PHS. 3455 02:52:50.319 --> 02:52:52.440 You know how you never hear get a shout out anymore? 3456 02:52:52.520 --> 02:52:56.040 Is PB and j Otter. You're right, that's a deep 3457 02:52:56.120 --> 02:52:57.040 cut p B. 3458 02:52:57.719 --> 02:52:57.879 That was. 3459 02:52:58.120 --> 02:53:01.799 That was a classic in my day. Between the Lions, 3460 02:53:03.040 --> 02:53:05.200 Between the Lions, that was a great PBS show to 3461 02:53:05.440 --> 02:53:09.360 teaching kids how to read. And where's the wild thornberries 3462 02:53:09.360 --> 02:53:11.600 when you need them? You know, we have a thornberry 3463 02:53:11.680 --> 02:53:17.959 meme earlier. That's true, Thunberg, that was a good one. 3464 02:53:20.440 --> 02:53:20.680 Doug. 3465 02:53:22.159 --> 02:53:25.040 Doug sent me somewhere in the multiverse, Uncle Ben and 3466 02:53:25.200 --> 02:53:25.959 Peter hook up. 3467 02:53:26.120 --> 02:53:27.840 Oh my god, oh gross. 3468 02:53:27.879 --> 02:53:31.360 It said, with great incests comes great responsibility. 3469 02:53:31.360 --> 02:53:36.760 You want to why why though? Good God? All right, 3470 02:53:36.840 --> 02:53:40.440 p uncle Ben good. Yeah. And then there what was 3471 02:53:40.479 --> 02:53:42.360 that one with all the Spider Man that came together 3472 02:53:42.399 --> 02:53:44.239 and then they're like, damn, that's Aunt Meg and it's 3473 02:53:44.280 --> 02:53:46.719 like that's not my aunt Meg, dude, what's up? And 3474 02:53:46.799 --> 02:53:48.840 it's like, bro, stop it, stop it right now. 3475 02:53:49.079 --> 02:53:52.520 Yeah, they turned it Meg hot, Aunt May Hot Marissa 3476 02:53:52.600 --> 02:53:53.040 to May. 3477 02:53:53.879 --> 02:53:57.399 Mass and yeah, my bass said meg Aunt May. I 3478 02:53:57.479 --> 02:54:00.159 don't really watch a lot of the the you know, 3479 02:54:00.319 --> 02:54:03.319 Marvel things, honestly, Yeah, dude. 3480 02:54:03.159 --> 02:54:05.079 She was definitely the hottest one. The other one was 3481 02:54:05.680 --> 02:54:06.639 what's her name from? 3482 02:54:06.920 --> 02:54:07.040 Uh? 3483 02:54:07.799 --> 02:54:09.920 Oh The Green Tomatoes. I can't remember the name of 3484 02:54:09.959 --> 02:54:14.920 the movie. No Green Tomatoes. Yeah, the woman that was 3485 02:54:15.000 --> 02:54:16.040 famous for saying. 3486 02:54:16.120 --> 02:54:19.879 They love me, they really love me. I can't remember 3487 02:54:19.920 --> 02:54:23.799 her name. No, Kathy Bates, No, not Kathy Bates. But say, wait, 3488 02:54:23.879 --> 02:54:28.879 what the fuck? Let me see Fry Green. Wait she 3489 02:54:29.040 --> 02:54:32.920 was the ant Man, which, uh which spider Man? The 3490 02:54:33.159 --> 02:54:36.680 Andrew Garfield one. I think I only seemed like a 3491 02:54:36.760 --> 02:54:41.000 portion of field Sally Field. Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's 3492 02:54:41.040 --> 02:54:42.879 really Oh fuck. 3493 02:54:44.040 --> 02:54:44.680 Oh wait that? 3494 02:54:45.200 --> 02:54:46.399 Uh is that? 3495 02:54:46.600 --> 02:54:48.319 Tellyd the Andrew one. 3496 02:54:51.319 --> 02:54:54.280 Maguire's no, Toby McGuire had the super old ant May. 3497 02:54:55.520 --> 02:54:57.440 Whenever I think of Sally Field, all I think is 3498 02:54:57.440 --> 02:55:00.200 Smoking in the Bandit. All I honestly cannot see or 3499 02:55:00.200 --> 02:55:03.760 in any other role than that. Forrest Gump's mama about it. 3500 02:55:04.000 --> 02:55:07.079 Yeah, Forrest Gump's mama, she looked just the same. I mean, 3501 02:55:07.120 --> 02:55:10.200 I think they were probably shot around the same time. Uh, 3502 02:55:11.120 --> 02:55:13.520 Forrest Gump and Spider Man. When was Forrest Gump that 3503 02:55:13.600 --> 02:55:15.639 came out? Probably ninety eight something. 3504 02:55:15.479 --> 02:55:17.959 Like that, Yeah, but I mean that was that was 3505 02:55:18.040 --> 02:55:21.000 way after uh the Smoking the Bandit. 3506 02:55:21.799 --> 02:55:26.399 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. For oh, Forest gumb 3507 02:55:26.440 --> 02:55:29.440 came out in ninety four only shit damn. 3508 02:55:30.840 --> 02:55:32.399 Yeah. It still kind of ruins me at the end 3509 02:55:32.440 --> 02:55:34.520 when you realize that both Forrest got aids because of 3510 02:55:34.559 --> 02:55:35.760 Jenny and. 3511 02:55:36.120 --> 02:55:38.719 That Forrest Gump was doing the Bafomet signal whenever he 3512 02:55:38.879 --> 02:55:39.840 was waving by to Jenny. 3513 02:55:40.760 --> 02:55:45.120 Yeah, people forget about that one. Yeah. Yeah, dude, go ahead, 3514 02:55:45.120 --> 02:55:46.040 Spirit Animal. 3515 02:55:46.159 --> 02:55:46.840 Not the Mint. 3516 02:55:47.200 --> 02:55:49.079 If you really want to take it back to the 3517 02:55:49.239 --> 02:55:52.959 most evil bitch, let's take it back to Vose from Titanic. 3518 02:55:53.479 --> 02:55:57.079 She told she she kept the movie that what not 3519 02:55:57.280 --> 02:56:01.040 the movie, but the Heart of the Ocean kept it. 3520 02:56:01.600 --> 02:56:04.000 Then threw it over the board when she really could 3521 02:56:04.040 --> 02:56:07.000 have just gave it to her grandparent I met her granddaughter, 3522 02:56:07.239 --> 02:56:09.319 or give it to the guy who spent his whole 3523 02:56:09.399 --> 02:56:12.520 life trying to find the fucking thing. But no, Well 3524 02:56:12.559 --> 02:56:14.600 when he pissed me off is there was enough room 3525 02:56:14.719 --> 02:56:17.840 And it's been proven by MythBusters. She could have scooped 3526 02:56:17.840 --> 02:56:19.920 the fuck over and let Jack get on, but no, 3527 02:56:20.920 --> 02:56:23.360 he posted trying to save her, and he said. 3528 02:56:23.200 --> 02:56:25.600 I'll never let you go Jack. Then yeats a little 3529 02:56:25.680 --> 02:56:29.120 bastard off. Also, there's a theory that he was a 3530 02:56:29.319 --> 02:56:31.440 time traveler because the lake. 3531 02:56:31.360 --> 02:56:33.760 That he said that he and his dad went ice 3532 02:56:33.799 --> 02:56:36.360 fishing on did not exist in nineteen twelve. 3533 02:56:37.000 --> 02:56:43.479 Yep, YEPA possibly with the time traveler bullshit. But then also, yeah, 3534 02:56:43.479 --> 02:56:44.959 I'm with you, and we've talked about this on this 3535 02:56:45.040 --> 02:56:49.079 show before the story of the Titanic and the ending 3536 02:56:49.120 --> 02:56:51.520 of it. Basically, this old brod just wanted to tell 3537 02:56:51.559 --> 02:56:54.000 her granddaughter how she got dicked down on her way 3538 02:56:54.120 --> 02:56:57.760 from Europe to America and the group the Sapphire that 3539 02:56:57.879 --> 02:57:00.840 was supposed to fund the entire expedition she fucking chunked 3540 02:57:00.879 --> 02:57:04.239 off the boat at the end like that it was 3541 02:57:04.280 --> 02:57:06.040 a bit ass move. It was a bit ass move, 3542 02:57:06.079 --> 02:57:07.959 and there's no doubt about that. There's just there's just 3543 02:57:08.559 --> 02:57:09.360 there's no excuse. 3544 02:57:10.479 --> 02:57:13.040 They just yat it off the ship at that point. 3545 02:57:13.479 --> 02:57:18.520 Yeah, she she deserved to get the faith that Jack did. Unfortunately. 3546 02:57:19.239 --> 02:57:22.319 Uh, Pop Gosuisel said, love love Marvel. It's my sin. 3547 02:57:22.559 --> 02:57:23.000 Same here. 3548 02:57:23.399 --> 02:57:26.639 I actually just I'm starting to actually fuck with DC 3549 02:57:26.840 --> 02:57:29.440 more than Marvel now, Like the DC movies are way 3550 02:57:29.559 --> 02:57:31.680 better than Marvel, like the ones that are coming out, 3551 02:57:31.799 --> 02:57:33.280 like the Mark I still I still watch all the 3552 02:57:33.319 --> 02:57:36.159 Marvel movies, but the DC movies and the DC shows 3553 02:57:36.200 --> 02:57:38.239 have been great. Like, dude, the new season of peace 3554 02:57:38.280 --> 02:57:42.639 Maker was fucking awesome. The new Superman movie was fucking awesome. 3555 02:57:42.840 --> 02:57:45.559 Loved it. I haven't seen the New Superman. I do 3556 02:57:45.760 --> 02:57:48.360 like Peacemaker though, but I like d C for the 3557 02:57:48.440 --> 02:57:52.000 villains more. I like Marvel for the heroes more. And 3558 02:57:52.159 --> 02:57:54.440 Peacemaker is one of these, like his dad was a 3559 02:57:54.520 --> 02:57:56.079 villain and he was supposed to be a villain, so 3560 02:57:56.159 --> 02:57:59.200 he's kind of like the anti hero rules Nacy. That's 3561 02:57:59.239 --> 02:58:04.680 the thing right now. Huh, No spoilers, I'm not gonna 3562 02:58:04.719 --> 02:58:06.920 give any spoilers, but My point is that is the 3563 02:58:06.959 --> 02:58:11.399 big push that the comic book genre. As far as 3564 02:58:11.479 --> 02:58:14.559 movies are going these days, it's all about the anti hero, right, 3565 02:58:14.680 --> 02:58:18.079 Black Adam, Deadpool, all these people that are like you 3566 02:58:18.559 --> 02:58:21.920 want to they're bad guys, but they're doing good I 3567 02:58:22.000 --> 02:58:23.680 mean way, but they're still good. 3568 02:58:23.719 --> 02:58:27.159 Wolverine, the Punisher, basically all anti heroes. 3569 02:58:27.360 --> 02:58:30.639 Exactly, and none of them were necessarily supposed to be. Well, 3570 02:58:30.680 --> 02:58:32.239 the Punisher he was supposed to be kind of his 3571 02:58:32.319 --> 02:58:34.840 own thing, but like Wolverine was never meant to be 3572 02:58:34.920 --> 02:58:37.799 a main character, but he became the main character when 3573 02:58:37.799 --> 02:58:40.040 they were like, wait a minute, the public loves a 3574 02:58:40.120 --> 02:58:42.440 good anti hero and they could make more money on 3575 02:58:42.559 --> 02:58:42.920 that shit. 3576 02:58:43.239 --> 02:58:45.879 Oh it's you know, the anti heroes are more human. 3577 02:58:46.040 --> 02:58:48.000 There's more of a human element to an anti hero 3578 02:58:48.159 --> 02:58:50.159 than there is a hero or a villain, because we 3579 02:58:50.239 --> 02:58:52.840 kind of got everybody has that little mix of good 3580 02:58:52.879 --> 02:58:55.680 and bad inside of them, so they're they're more you 3581 02:58:55.719 --> 02:58:58.079 can relate a little bit more, I think, especially the 3582 02:58:58.399 --> 02:59:01.760 story of the Punished, like dude got his whole fucking 3583 02:59:01.799 --> 02:59:03.719 family taken out, Like of course, yeah, I'd go on 3584 02:59:03.760 --> 02:59:05.440 a rampage too, No. 3585 02:59:05.479 --> 02:59:07.120 No, I get it, And like I understand why the 3586 02:59:07.200 --> 02:59:11.760 anti hero what's the word I'm looking for trope is 3587 02:59:11.879 --> 02:59:15.520 getting way more pushed in the narratives as far as 3588 02:59:15.559 --> 02:59:17.799 the comic books are concerned. But like, that's kind of 3589 02:59:17.840 --> 02:59:20.639 the whole point though, right. Superheroes were supposed to be 3590 02:59:20.719 --> 02:59:24.079 seen as like this intrinsic good look at Superman. He's 3591 02:59:24.120 --> 02:59:26.719 supposed to be just impervious to all the shit and then, 3592 02:59:27.200 --> 02:59:30.079 not to quote kill Bill, but I do find it 3593 02:59:30.200 --> 02:59:35.239 interesting that at all all things stripped away, his version 3594 02:59:35.280 --> 02:59:38.440 of Clark Kent is actually supposed to be a look 3595 02:59:38.520 --> 02:59:43.719 at the human race as a whole. And that's interesting, right, So, like, 3596 02:59:44.159 --> 02:59:46.239 cause you think about this, When Bruce Wayne takes off 3597 02:59:46.280 --> 02:59:49.159 the costume, he is I'm sorry. When Batman takes off 3598 02:59:49.200 --> 02:59:52.840 the costume, he's Bruce Wayne, right. Whenever Spider Man takes 3599 02:59:52.879 --> 02:59:55.920 off the costume, he's Peter Parker. When iron Man takes 3600 02:59:55.959 --> 02:59:59.799 off the costume, he's Tony Stark. When Superman takes off 3601 02:59:59.840 --> 03:00:03.079 the costume, he's Superman. He has to put on a 3602 03:00:03.200 --> 03:00:06.360 costume to become Clark Kent. And what is Clark Kent? 3603 03:00:06.799 --> 03:00:10.559 This nerdy, super shy, super unsure of himself. He's clumsy, 3604 03:00:11.120 --> 03:00:15.440 he's scared a lot. That was his attempt to blend 3605 03:00:15.559 --> 03:00:19.920 into human society, because if that's the goal, is to 3606 03:00:20.000 --> 03:00:23.360 look like you're just like everybody else, that's what he 3607 03:00:23.600 --> 03:00:29.120 thought of the human race. Well yeah, okay, I mean 3608 03:00:29.159 --> 03:00:29.760 it could be worse. 3609 03:00:31.680 --> 03:00:34.840 Yeah, so Joe said, after cracking open my third eye, 3610 03:00:34.920 --> 03:00:37.159 I can't sit through a movie or TV show. 3611 03:00:37.239 --> 03:00:39.840 Thanks, guys. You know it's it. 3612 03:00:40.000 --> 03:00:43.079 Sometimes it's actually fun because I look at every every 3613 03:00:43.120 --> 03:00:46.840 single show. I look at as if every single show 3614 03:00:46.879 --> 03:00:49.239 and movie has some sort of easter egg. Now like 3615 03:00:49.719 --> 03:00:52.680 not necessarily like on purpose built in easter egg, but 3616 03:00:52.760 --> 03:00:56.159 you're looking for like where's the deception? Where am I 3617 03:00:56.280 --> 03:00:58.520 looking at? You know, And it's just about becoming aware 3618 03:00:58.639 --> 03:01:01.239 to it. So there was a long period of time 3619 03:01:01.239 --> 03:01:03.920 where I was not watching shows, I was not watching movies. 3620 03:01:03.959 --> 03:01:05.559 I was like, fuck this, I'm not here for all 3621 03:01:05.600 --> 03:01:08.319 the symbolism they're trying to convince me of all this, 3622 03:01:08.639 --> 03:01:10.360 or they're using me as part of a ritual. I'm 3623 03:01:10.399 --> 03:01:12.760 not doing it anymore. But dude, you got a fucking 3624 03:01:12.799 --> 03:01:14.760 blue pill. From time to time, like we are human, 3625 03:01:15.079 --> 03:01:18.000 you know, like we have to we don't have to 3626 03:01:18.079 --> 03:01:21.639 do anything, but you know, it's it's more fun whenever 3627 03:01:21.719 --> 03:01:23.440 you kind of succumb to the blue pill. 3628 03:01:23.559 --> 03:01:26.319 From time to time, I like to look at certain movies, 3629 03:01:26.399 --> 03:01:30.079 especially if the director did things purposely like uh and 3630 03:01:30.239 --> 03:01:32.120 not to like be a part of the op by 3631 03:01:32.120 --> 03:01:36.639 any means here, But you've seen The Departed, I can't 3632 03:01:36.719 --> 03:01:38.479 remember what's who's there? 3633 03:01:38.639 --> 03:01:38.760 Uh. 3634 03:01:39.239 --> 03:01:42.520 Matt Damon and Leo DiCaprio are playing cops that are 3635 03:01:42.600 --> 03:01:45.280 like trying to find each other and it's a against 3636 03:01:45.280 --> 03:01:47.879 the Irish crime boss. At the time that was supposed 3637 03:01:47.879 --> 03:01:49.159 to be it was supposed to be based off of 3638 03:01:49.200 --> 03:01:52.719 Whitey Bulger. It's an exce limit might have. It sounds 3639 03:01:52.799 --> 03:01:55.399 kind of familiar, But for anybody who has seen it, 3640 03:01:55.879 --> 03:01:58.799 did you realize that every time somebody dies on camera 3641 03:01:58.920 --> 03:02:02.239 there's an X on screen in some way, shape or form, 3642 03:02:02.280 --> 03:02:05.520 whether it's tape on windows or in the rafters behind 3643 03:02:05.600 --> 03:02:07.799 him or something like this. Come to find out, the 3644 03:02:07.840 --> 03:02:10.319 director did that as an homage to the old silent 3645 03:02:10.440 --> 03:02:12.639 black and white films where when somebody died, they'd have 3646 03:02:12.760 --> 03:02:14.959 black x's on their eyes to look like they're dead. 3647 03:02:15.719 --> 03:02:19.920 That was his nod to old school movie magic from 3648 03:02:20.159 --> 03:02:22.600 back in the day. And it's like those little kind 3649 03:02:22.639 --> 03:02:25.159 of easter eggs, Like that's dope. You like that kind 3650 03:02:25.200 --> 03:02:28.920 of shit? You know, yeah, I'm definitely for that. What 3651 03:02:29.200 --> 03:02:29.639 else here? 3652 03:02:29.719 --> 03:02:32.120 Why what wizard said? Forrest Comb's mama could give me 3653 03:02:32.200 --> 03:02:32.680 a blumpkin. 3654 03:02:34.079 --> 03:02:38.079 I probably cared about his schooling. That's a fact he did. 3655 03:02:38.639 --> 03:02:42.399 That made that principal squeal like a pig. And he 3656 03:02:42.520 --> 03:02:48.120 comes out and he's on you know, And as a 3657 03:02:48.239 --> 03:02:50.280 kid I watched that, I didn't understand what the fuck 3658 03:02:50.639 --> 03:02:53.760 now that I'm watching this boy Forrest comes, mama was 3659 03:02:53.799 --> 03:02:57.079 putting the hurting on that boy, making him he hey, hey, 3660 03:02:57.360 --> 03:03:00.719 like yo, what kind of fuck was going on up? 3661 03:03:00.760 --> 03:03:04.559 But Comma Sutra going on there or something? She was 3662 03:03:04.600 --> 03:03:05.440 about that ship? 3663 03:03:05.559 --> 03:03:10.200 She was thrown out ass in a circle. Hob goz 3664 03:03:10.239 --> 03:03:13.280 Weisel said, No, DC, only good is Batman. 3665 03:03:14.239 --> 03:03:16.000 You know, I love the Green Lantern too. There's a 3666 03:03:16.040 --> 03:03:19.239 lot of DC characters that I love. The Green Lantern 3667 03:03:19.399 --> 03:03:20.760 is fucking trapped. 3668 03:03:21.520 --> 03:03:23.120 I'm not talking about the movie or any I'm saying 3669 03:03:23.159 --> 03:03:26.200 the comment, like, it's a really cool idea, like to 3670 03:03:26.319 --> 03:03:28.639 have that ring and just transform into fucking anything. 3671 03:03:28.799 --> 03:03:31.719 That's a badass power. But at the same time, even 3672 03:03:31.760 --> 03:03:35.120 according to the comic books. One side he's impervious or 3673 03:03:35.399 --> 03:03:37.600 except for the color yellow, and then the other one 3674 03:03:37.680 --> 03:03:40.000 would could take him out. So a number two pencil 3675 03:03:40.120 --> 03:03:43.840 can fucking decimate the green lantern of Past and President. 3676 03:03:43.959 --> 03:03:46.440 It's I'm not saying I love him because he's invincible. 3677 03:03:46.639 --> 03:03:48.120 I just think that the power is awesome. 3678 03:03:49.000 --> 03:03:53.000 Man. I feel like, uh, Professor Xavier probably had one 3679 03:03:53.040 --> 03:03:56.799 of the best powers. Oh real shit, telepathy. Yeah, but 3680 03:03:56.959 --> 03:04:01.559 that being said, he could have fucking made himself walk, you. 3681 03:04:01.559 --> 03:04:04.040 Would think, but he probably Maybe he just wanted to 3682 03:04:04.079 --> 03:04:06.239 focus his efforts on more important things. 3683 03:04:07.680 --> 03:04:09.600 I guess. Or maybe he just was lazy, wanted to 3684 03:04:09.680 --> 03:04:11.959 sit forever. I don't know. Hey, can't blame him. 3685 03:04:12.559 --> 03:04:16.079 Joe said, Hey, Hugh Jackman did Wolverine well though, so 3686 03:04:16.239 --> 03:04:17.120 Aussie's at it again. 3687 03:04:17.840 --> 03:04:20.680 Very true. I agree, Hugh Jackman did an ex job 3688 03:04:20.760 --> 03:04:21.959 with that role, for sure. 3689 03:04:22.360 --> 03:04:24.799 I think that actually, and I love all the Wolverine movies, 3690 03:04:24.840 --> 03:04:27.120 but I think that, uh, dude, He's been in a 3691 03:04:27.200 --> 03:04:29.200 lot of great movies. Like you ever seen The Greatest Showman? 3692 03:04:29.879 --> 03:04:31.920 I falk with that movie. That is one of my 3693 03:04:31.959 --> 03:04:36.360 favorite movies of all time. That and Real Steel, great movie. 3694 03:04:36.600 --> 03:04:39.200 I love that movie. Yes, I didn't know that The 3695 03:04:39.239 --> 03:04:42.120 Greatest Showman was supposed to be a musical. I was 3696 03:04:42.319 --> 03:04:45.040 very upset about five minutes into it, and I'm just like, bro, 3697 03:04:45.239 --> 03:04:49.200 it was great that like is awesome. Y'all had to 3698 03:04:49.319 --> 03:04:52.120 make it this. You had to make it gay. 3699 03:04:52.719 --> 03:04:55.559 No, it wasn't gay. I loved it, not to say 3700 03:04:55.559 --> 03:04:57.040 I can't love gay things, but you. 3701 03:04:57.120 --> 03:04:59.319 Know, I didn't mean gay like homosexual. I mean gay 3702 03:04:59.399 --> 03:05:02.239 like you like nineties. You know what I'm saying. But like, 3703 03:05:02.360 --> 03:05:04.440 and then Zindaia is in it, and I was like, oh, 3704 03:05:04.719 --> 03:05:06.639 here we go. I like Sindia. 3705 03:05:07.639 --> 03:05:09.520 As an actor, I don't like I. I know how 3706 03:05:09.559 --> 03:05:11.559 to separate, you know, actor from. 3707 03:05:12.200 --> 03:05:13.959 I'm talking about as an actress. I have no idea 3708 03:05:14.040 --> 03:05:16.000 what her opinions on the world are. I think as 3709 03:05:16.040 --> 03:05:20.440 an actress she is just fucking dog shit. E teach 3710 03:05:20.520 --> 03:05:23.840 their own m Joe said. 3711 03:05:24.000 --> 03:05:27.319 And I actually get you, Jonathan with picking them shows apart. 3712 03:05:27.440 --> 03:05:31.079 I do see advertisements like, hmm, your subtle tactics don't 3713 03:05:31.120 --> 03:05:32.760 work on me, you dog cunts. 3714 03:05:33.399 --> 03:05:34.120 God, I love it. 3715 03:05:34.440 --> 03:05:37.600 He just tast every single time that you message, and 3716 03:05:37.799 --> 03:05:41.440 he goes, yeah, nah, I can get stoned and watch shameless. 3717 03:05:42.559 --> 03:05:44.760 My girlfriend got me into it. You just did well 3718 03:05:44.840 --> 03:05:45.079 with that. 3719 03:05:46.799 --> 03:05:50.559 Yeah, yeah, shameless as a it's an awesome show. If 3720 03:05:50.600 --> 03:05:53.280 you're like really feeling bad about yourself, you can watch 3721 03:05:53.280 --> 03:05:54.840 an episode in that and be like, you know what 3722 03:05:55.840 --> 03:05:58.799 I'm doing pretty fucking great. I'm alright, I'm all right. 3723 03:05:58.879 --> 03:06:00.760 I could do I could be doing work. Yeah, it 3724 03:06:00.840 --> 03:06:03.360 could be so much worse right now, and here I 3725 03:06:03.520 --> 03:06:06.479 am just like doing doing the damn thing, you know. 3726 03:06:06.680 --> 03:06:11.280 But then again, man, in the later seasons, they were 3727 03:06:11.360 --> 03:06:15.079 going out of their way to make it as much 3728 03:06:15.159 --> 03:06:18.479 of a liberal propaganda piece as they possibly could, which 3729 03:06:18.600 --> 03:06:19.280 no one asked for. 3730 03:06:20.239 --> 03:06:22.159 It's, by the way, the new season of The Boys 3731 03:06:22.239 --> 03:06:24.879 did that too, which kind of did they? Yeah, the 3732 03:06:24.920 --> 03:06:27.120 new season, like I say, new, it came out like 3733 03:06:27.719 --> 03:06:29.559 I don't know, six seven months ago or something like that. 3734 03:06:29.680 --> 03:06:32.120 But yeah, the Boys turn God dude, it got so 3735 03:06:32.319 --> 03:06:34.680 fucking political. It was so obvious that it was political, 3736 03:06:35.159 --> 03:06:37.360 And I'm like, man, why'd you have to turn such 3737 03:06:37.360 --> 03:06:39.600 an awesome concept of a show into that? 3738 03:06:40.879 --> 03:06:44.239 This is this is why, you know, I can't even 3739 03:06:44.280 --> 03:06:46.079 tell you the last time I sat and watched this show. 3740 03:06:46.159 --> 03:06:49.200 The only one I'm watching is South Park because their 3741 03:06:49.239 --> 03:06:53.280 political bullshit is being done in satire to shit on everyone, 3742 03:06:53.760 --> 03:06:57.719 and I like that. I'm here for that, you know, Yeah, Samuel, 3743 03:06:58.120 --> 03:06:58.639 go ahead, sir. 3744 03:06:59.280 --> 03:07:02.719 I was just gonna say, another good movie is The Town. 3745 03:07:03.079 --> 03:07:06.040 If y'all haven't seen that, how did I command it? 3746 03:07:07.600 --> 03:07:15.840 Bat Fluck is in there, well, Batman, Daredevil, Yeah, both 3747 03:07:15.840 --> 03:07:16.120 of them. 3748 03:07:17.360 --> 03:07:19.600 Dougie, I think he's better dead Devil than he was 3749 03:07:19.639 --> 03:07:20.200 a Batman. 3750 03:07:20.719 --> 03:07:23.079 I think people I don't know. 3751 03:07:23.120 --> 03:07:25.280 I thought he did a decent job as Batman, especially 3752 03:07:25.399 --> 03:07:28.959 the the Snyder cut one, the Snyder cut of what's 3753 03:07:29.000 --> 03:07:33.200 it called, We're All Justice? Yeah, the Snyder cut Justice 3754 03:07:33.280 --> 03:07:35.239 League movie was the ship it was. 3755 03:07:36.719 --> 03:07:37.879 So I didn't watch that one. 3756 03:07:38.680 --> 03:07:43.000 Twilight Boys Batman, though, I mean I still like it. Yeah, No, 3757 03:07:43.120 --> 03:07:44.280 I still like it. I thought it was. 3758 03:07:44.399 --> 03:07:46.879 It's a different way of looking at These are different 3759 03:07:46.959 --> 03:07:50.200 like versions of Batman. That's like, you know, like comparing 3760 03:07:50.959 --> 03:07:55.520 Michael Keaton to George Clooney to you know, and all 3761 03:07:55.559 --> 03:07:57.399 the different ones their own brand. 3762 03:07:58.479 --> 03:08:01.760 Yeah, I will say I think overall, Christian Bale probably 3763 03:08:01.799 --> 03:08:04.360 did the best. Yeah, as far as that goes. But 3764 03:08:05.840 --> 03:08:08.120 you know, that's that's open to debate as well, because 3765 03:08:08.120 --> 03:08:10.639 I mean that was more of Michael Bay's ship too. 3766 03:08:11.200 --> 03:08:13.639 You know, yeah, I thought it was great too. 3767 03:08:14.639 --> 03:08:18.120 And and also I mean, uh, dude, the Penguin series 3768 03:08:18.200 --> 03:08:19.360 that came out last year. 3769 03:08:19.959 --> 03:08:20.760 I haven't seen its. 3770 03:08:20.879 --> 03:08:24.520 God, it's so good. Yeah, yes, so good. Highly recommend. 3771 03:08:25.719 --> 03:08:27.399 But anyway, Dougie, what are your thoughts there? 3772 03:08:28.959 --> 03:08:30.959 I just want to say, it's not gay if you 3773 03:08:31.040 --> 03:08:32.920 don't make eye contact. 3774 03:08:34.920 --> 03:08:37.360 Or if you're wearing boot bands. 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