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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Stephanie Kraft. How you doing, Stephanie?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm doing well. Alex, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing very good. Thank you so much for coming
on the show. Today's conversation with you. You have a lot
of stuff going on, a lot of things have happened
to you in your life. It's not just one thing
or another, but it's all really connected, which is what
I find fascinated about your life story. So before we
get into conversations about your day job now, which is
a life between lives hit a therapist that you've had
a lot of stories and experiences and that and a healer,
what I thought fascinating is do you start your story
starts off as someone who was atheist, someone who had
completely rejected God and Jesus. Can you talk to me
a little bit about what caused you? You know, were
you raised spiritually and then you rejected it? Where you
just like this is ridiculous. What brought you to that place?
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I my parents were Catholic. They did baptize
us three kids, but we they didn't really raise us
with any religion at all. They did attempt to bring
us to church, to Mass, you know, Catholic Mass, but
when you're a kid that's Latin, you know, it's a
different language.
Speaker 2: It's like, it is horrible. It's horrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I remember being in church thinking like or
in general, like having this. I think I was born
with this where I thought it was mythology. I didn't
think it was, and then when I found out people
actually believed it, I was like, people actually believe that.
I thought it was just a story, you know, and
it never nothing ever resonated with me, but not that
I even knew anything. It's like there was no teaching
my family had. There was never God was never mentioned.
So even though they attempted to bring us to church
when we were very little, I think that they thought
we're doing the right thing, but it wasn't even embodied
in them. And then they dropped it because my older
sister refused to wear a dress and my mother wanted
her to wear dresses when we went to church, and
it was always this huge fight, and so they were
like they gave up and we just never went and
I was I'm talking like four, I was like maybe
four or five, and that that was the end of it.
So I had a general feeling of like God right,
like God exists, but I had zero religion and I
didn't believe in religion per se. So when I was ten,
a friend of mine was murdered and unfortunately her mother
killed her. And yeah, so I had just been slept
over at her house and like I K you know
I So when this happened, it literally shattered my entire
world because when you're ten, you're you don't have this
idea that a mother could kill her child, Like that's
not in the realm of possible. So I remember walking
home from school. I remember the exact moment where I was,
because when this trauma happened in my life, everything that
I thought was true was no longer true. And so
I remember walking home from school and in my mind,
I said to myself, I'm not believing in God anymore,
because if that can happen, then there's definitely no God.
That's a ten year old mind. And that was it.
So from age ten, I was I would say agnostic
or atheist until age twenty nine when I had a
massive spiritual awakening. So do you want me to talk
about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so how do you so? Nineteen years good amount
of time. Yes, that this is all hogwash. This is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: By the way, I am so sorry that you had
to go through that at ten years old, because I
can only imagine, because you're right at a ten year
old experience, that doesn't cross your mind.
Speaker 2: It's not even you know, bad things happen in the world,
I mean at that time.
Speaker 1: I mean especially you know, depending on the generation you
were raised in, you have TV, you hear things, we
know the bad things happen in the world. But the
concept of a mother killing a child at that's such
a even it's a you it just didn't even it
doesn't comprehend. It must have been completely earth shattering to
you and that would throw you into you know, crisis
of faith if you will, without question it did.
Speaker 3: I mean I even asked my own mother if she
would kill me, because now everything's on the table.
Speaker 1: Right, So Mom, can we have a conversation and imagine and
imagining that that also probably.
Speaker 2: That probably shifted the way you reacted to the world.
Speaker 1: Now your hold you're programming. The set of rules that
are in your programming at this stage changes interactions with
the entire reality that you have.
Speaker 3: Correct one hundred percent. And I had PTSD. It's something
that I didn't talk about because at ten you don't
have the language for it and you don't get the
help you need. It's just a fact like when things
like this happened. So I was having you know, I
was having interestsive thoughts of her, my friend's mom, killing me.
And I was also having experience at night when I
would go to sleep every night where these aliens were
coming into my third eye vision when I would close
my eyes to go to sleep, they would visit me
every night and it would I felt in terror. But
now I'm thinking it might have been a spiritual family
reaching out to comfort me. But I didn't know that,
and I willed them to go away eventually, and they
finally did. But I was having terror every single day
in specific instances, one of them going to sleep, and
then another one when the when I would imagine her
coming to kill me, So, you know, and yes, it
did shatter my entire reality, my entire world, my worldview,
every absolutely everything I retreated into my mind because it
was so shocking and that I couldn't process it. I
couldn't understand why. And my big question was why? Why? Why?
And so all I all I was doing was thinking, thinking, thinking,
and that cut off my actual you know, processing of
the trauma or feeling and which opened up later on
in my life. And so, but the question has always
been why. But that, let you know, like flowed over
into you know, my adulthood of where do we go
when we die? You know, what happens when we die?
Things like that.
Speaker 1: And then I imagined that just as a young adult,
relationships must have been difficult and you might have been
guarded against having relationships or even friendships or because again
everything is on the table, like at any time something
could happen.
Speaker 2: It's that kind of traumas.
Speaker 1: And imagine no one was around helping you process this
trauma or identify find this trauma.
Speaker 2: So this was all you dealing.
Speaker 3: With it.
Speaker 2: Ten percent one percent on my own, right, So.
Speaker 1: This again just moving forward, and I find it fascinating
because a lot of people go through trauma, especially young trauma,
especially with our parents, and I will talk about your
parents later on, because I've heard, I've heard the choices
you've made in life between lives to choose the situation.
But the traumas that we all go through. It does
really skew our perspective on humanity, on our reality, what
we think is possible, what the potential of dangers is.
It's pretty fascinating and going through from such a young
age ten to twenty nine, it's almost two decades of
this kind of thought pattern.
Speaker 2: So what was it?
Speaker 1: Because I have to imagine something pretty large had to
come in other than it wasn't in your death experience,
I don't think. So it's something you had to come
in and just because I'm I and this is my
and tell me if I'm wrong. From my personal experience,
the universe was probably tapping you on the shoulder, probably
for a while, spiritual taps like hey, no, no, I
know you had some rough times, but no, this is real. No, no, here,
I'm like, no, here's an example of faith, or here's
an example of the other side, or and you were
like having none of it till finally the universe's tap tap, tap, whisper, whisper,
sledgehammer across the head, and I think what you're about
to talk about is a sledgehammer across the head.
Speaker 3: Yes, So those taps really did not start until the
year two thousand, when I was twenty nine, because I
think my soul just let me okay, go ahead, live
FROs like asleep and then boom. In the year two
thousand was when it happened. And so the first thing
that happened was.
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Speaker 3: My friend said you should get a psychic reading. And
I was like, why would you even waste your money
on something like that? It's fake? But you know, I
thought you were an intelligent woman. What are you doing?
And she said and she said, no, Stephanie, let me
lend you my tape. And back then it was the
cassette tapes. So the guy records it. So I went home,
I listened to it, and he literally read everything about
her things he could not have possibly known. So I said, okay, okay,
I'll make an appointment. So I made the appointment with him,
and I was skeptical. I didn't believe in anything, and
I told him, you know, I said, I'm just not
going to really say much because I'm kind of testing
you because I don't believe in this really. But he
was very cool and you know about it all, and
he read my heart and soul in such a way
that nobody could ever know. And he said to me, Stephanie,
you're a healer and a teacher. And it resonated in
my soul and in my heart because I had been
delving deeply into you know, maybe I should become an acupuncturist.
I want to help people at a very deep level.
I knew that already, and when he said healer, I
was like, ding, ding, ding, you know this is true.
And so that because that reading was reading my heart
and soul, it actually bursted me wide open. It was
my catalyst for my spiritual awakening. I mean, I was
blown away. I didn't under I was like, if he
can know things, then there's so much more. And that
night when I was trying to sleep, I didn't sleep
the entire night. I had my eyes closed and all
I could see was the universe. I was seeing in
my third eye, the entire universe because it had busted
wide open and I was there now I was seeing it.
And so that was a memorable. That was a memorable experience.
It was my first the catalyst of my spiritual awakening.
And then it was the tap tap tap. Things were happening,
but boom boom, boom boom. That year, in rapid succession,
I was having major health problems. I don't want to
get into that because it's not really integral to the story.
But I was sick and then, you know, so I
don't know. Then then my father was actually diagnosed with
terminal cancer. But something else happened prior to that, which
was a meeting with his soul. I don't know, if
you want me to.
Speaker 2: Talk, Yeah, how did you How did you meet your
father's soul?
Speaker 3: So I didn't nobody knew he had cancer, he didn't know.
We were just nothing was happening, you know, in that way.
But a couple months before his diagnosis, I had during
my sleep time and I don't call it a dream
because it was It was a spiritual experience. His soul
was before me. And my father was a psychologist and
he was very into his work, which I don't blame him.
It's fascinating and all. He was all about helping his patients,
and he, you know, very intellectually focused, but he kind
of forgot about his family, so he didn't really pay
much attention to us. He was emotionally disconnected and distant.
So he was there as the father and my mom's husband,
but not really interacting much, just you know, working all
the time. So in this experience, his soul was standing
before me, and I like, I had this rage that
I didn't know I had, and it came out of me.
And you know how in those experiences it's really telepathic,
but the rage poured out of me almost. I compare
it to like a fire breathing dragon, because it's just
pouring out and it was a rage that's not humanly possible.
And I said to him in this I said, Dad,
you were never there for me. You never touched me,
never gave me affection, never said I love you. You did
nothing for me as a father, nothing. And he stood
there with such innocence on his face and shock because
he did and I could read him fully. He didn't
know that his behavior actually had an effect on others.
That was new to him. He had no clue. He
was just living his life, and you know, and maybe
because he thought he was giving so much in service
that was his role. Great kudos to you, but you
have three kids and a wife. But anyway, so I
so he he had so much innocence, so much like
I'm sorry, and the innocence was so pure, the benevolence
was so strong, and the not wanting to do harm.
And when I saw all of that in him, it
was an immediate forgiveness, like like a forgiveness of let
that there's nothing to forgive. There is nothing to forgive,
and what we have between us is pure, unconditional love.
And it was in an instant it all washed away.
We had unconditional love between us, and that was it.
And I woke up with that. And two months later
he was diagnosed with terminal cancer, and I dropped everything.
I was living in Denver, Colorado. I'm from Washington, d C.
I dropped everything as fast as I could, and I
moved home to take care of him. And so I'm
having these profound spiritual experiences. I'm having my awakening, and
then I go home to take care of him. He's
in the death process, having his spiritual awakening. So we
got to travel along in that way for five months.
He died five months later, but we had that time together,
and the words weren't spoken. I never said anything to
him about my experience with our souls, but the healing
that had happened between our souls manifested in life between us,
where it was pure, unconditional love and beautiful bonding and
no words needed to be spoken, but the love was
just there and it was what a gift.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful, That's really beautiful. I like to hear your
perspective on the soul family.
Speaker 1: And because that's talk we talk about soul family and
the show a bunch, but I want to hear your
perspective on it and why we choose the parents that
we are brought into this life with, because most people
listening going I didn't choose my parents, but you did,
uh better or worse so, and you didn't have you had,
from my understanding a little bit, it wasn't a lovely,
you know, wonderful as as you just stated with your father, lovely, supportive,
wonderful upbringing as a child. There were some ups and downs.
So can you explain to them what a soul family
is and why you chose your family and the purpose
of that.
Speaker 3: Right so soul family would be soul mates in a
soul group. So and as souls, we like to travel
together with these members of our soul family to learn
to teach each other. We decide before we incarnate what
role we'll play for each other and what we hope
to learn from that, and so we get we get
to incarnate with these members of our soul group. And
if we have a you know, sole group of I
don't know, one hundred souls, we might incarnate with four,
you know in a lifetime, or six or ten or
one you know. But other souls that we know might
also be in like nearby soul groups, so we know
them too. But that's my understanding. And not everybody in
your family is necessarily in your soul group. For example,
my father is because I had a life between Lives
hypno therapy session once and I asked who's in my
soul family and I saw my father, But I don't
necessarily think my mother is. Although I think we do
incarnate together with certain with these souls for learning, and
we do choose our parents because we want to experience
things that will challenge us and stretch us and help
us to better some of the themes that we're working on,
whether it's forgiveness or unconditional love, or compassion, or standing
up for ourselves or setting boundaries. You know, the list
goes on.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. So can you explain
to somebody who's listening who's had an abusive family, abusive
parents who made their life a living hell, how could
I have ever chosen that to exist in this life?
Speaker 3: So I think that right now a lot of souls
are stopping the toxic, abusive cycles in families. So I
think that if somebody is born and they're completely different
from their parents, they're not abusive, they're not toxic, they're
not as dysfunctional, but they do go through that trauma
with their parents, and then they decide to raise their
children differently or have a different kind of relationship with
their spouse or people in general, that they are stopping
that karma, that ancestral line of toxicity. So I think
that's one role that a lot of people play. I
did have an experience with my mother's higher self that
showed me why I chose her. She is a narcissist,
and I actually went no contact with her fourteen years ago.
But one day, I was driving in my car and
all this was the only time I've ever I ever
had an encounter with her higher self. Her higher self
just quickly swooped in, like by the driver's window. I'm driving,
and she visited me. And when I when I felt
her come to me, I felt love from her for
the first time in my life. And that told me, Wow,
I've never felt love from my mother at all, not
for one second until that moment, because that was the
moment I felt it for the first time. So it
was from her soul. And she said to me only
one thing. She said, I wanted you to be in
your power. So I got that. She was my bully,
you know. And she and I had to stand up
for myself and become strong and create boundaries and speak
up for myself. For whatever reason, maybe I hadn't done
that in a past life. I have no idea, but
I had been told by a healer once because I
was in the Holocaust that in another lifetime, and I
was told, your mother was the one who I was
killed in the gas chamber. But she's the one who
kind of like operated it and killed me. Oh so
who knows. I don't have a direct memory of I
have memories of that lifetime, but not of her being there.
But I believe it. That's a whole other story.
Speaker 1: That's an another story. Can I ask you, growing up with,
as you just stated, a mother who doesn't who dinniverse
showed you really affection, and a father who was detached
from you, how you process and then you had the
ten year old trauma? How did you process the childhood
without this?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Because I was raised in a fairly loving relationship, very
very loving family.
Speaker 2: Yeah we had issues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's up and downs and the all sorts of
drama that we all all pall families do.
Speaker 2: But generally speaking, I can never say that I wasn't loved.
I was loved.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious how, because I'm sure other people listening
have gone through this, how did you process? How did
you function through life without this?
Speaker 3: I really did retreat into my mind a lot, trying
to figure things out and being overly analytical. And I
think that's a trauma response, and I think a lot
of people can relate to that, And it was really
about raising myself and so I'm glad I have that
highly analytical mind because I used it in my work
and I can understand people very well. But yeah, it
was really about an inner strength and inner will to
like keep going. I think it has to do with
your soul, you know, getting really in alignment with your
soul and just getting through it and being strong and
and choosing to be loving, you know, taking that example
and saying I'm going to be the most loving, forgiving,
wonderful person. I mean I was already born that way.
We're born really pretty much with our personality and soul,
you know, soul essence, and that was who I've always been,
and that helped me get through it. And you don't
know when you're a child that it that it is dysfunctional.
I thought I had the greatest family and that we
were perfect. It wasn't until a little bit later that
I realized, oh my god, that was highly abusive. Actually
I was abused, you know, so, but yeah, it's it's
an inner strength I think that gets people through it,
and then a determination to do well, to do to
be your best self.
Speaker 1: Really, so my research on you, you also had an
experience or a couple of experiences with Yeshua or Jesus
as he's known. I love to hear and I always
I always joke Jesus is the hardest, hardest working man
in show business because he's always on their death experiences.
He's always saying he does a lot of stuff. You know,
Shiva never hear that much Buddha and barely hear about that.
They do come in, by the way, I do. Hear
them from other people's stories, but generally speak. I guess
because we're in the West, basically raised as a Christian country,
Jesus is working heavy, heavy over here. So when what
was your first experience, your spiritual experience with Jesus.
Speaker 3: This is something I hesitate to say, but since I'm
opening my mouth now, I'll just share. I had a
dream in which it's the only dream that I know
I have had with my spirit guide. And my spirit
guide came to me and said you are Jesus. And
I said no, no, no, no, no no, and he
said no, you are Jesus. And I went like this,
and I was like, Okay, there can be no ego
in knowing about this. But then when I woke up,
I was like, okay, let me try to analyze this.
I'm a healer, I'm a way shower, I'm all about love.
And forgiven. Okay, Okay, I get it. I'm one walking
the path. I've been abused in the past, I know, resurrected.
So but then that was a first. But then shortly
after that, I had this experience where okay, wait, I
didn't believe in him.
Speaker 2: By the way, is this so this is pre twenty nine?
Speaker 3: This is okay? So with my spiritual awakening, it was
a spiritual awakening, but not yet on board with Jesus.
Speaker 2: I was like, because he's still attached to religion, so
there it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was like, I still don't believe in that.
Speaker 2: I believe in everything else, but not this, dude.
Speaker 3: Angels are real. I don't know about Jesus.
Speaker 1: That's religious religious programming you still had in your head
from being a Catholic.
Speaker 2: Trust me, I'm a recovering Catholic myself.
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't have any religious programming in this lifetime. Zero.
When I say my parents tried to take us to church,
I don't remember a word of it. And there was
no religion in my upbringing.
Speaker 1: So so you wasn't programming, but you knew that Jesus
was part of You didn't even remember that Jesus was
part of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a.
Speaker 2: Myth got it? So he was still but he was attached.
Speaker 3: All religion is mythology. It's not real, got it?
Speaker 2: Fair enough? Fair enough? Okay? So when so when Jesus
shows up, how does it happen?
Speaker 3: So Jesus, I guess he really wanted me to believe
in him because he his spirit, his essence, his being
embodied in me for two weeks. It was just this
sudden thing that happened where I didn't tell anybody, but
I could feel it the whole time. His words were
not stop going through my mind, just speaking the whole time.
And I would I there was a radiance coming out
of me that I don't think anybody could see, but
I could feel it and know it. And I would
look in the mirror to see it, and I would
see the radiance of Him coming through my eyes and
all around me when I would look, and it was
just a NonStop embodiment of Jesus for those two weeks.
And that was profound. That was just one you know,
the experiences.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: You know, being such an analytical person, being, you know,
concrete mind person, when this started to happen to you.
At what point did you decide to go public with this,
come out of the spiritual closet, because I had imagine
with your friends, colleagues, even family members, whoever. I mean,
what we're talking about, Well, clear room.
Speaker 3: I don't talk about it every day. Now, you don't
lead with it privately, but you know, being on here,
it's a little.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 3: But when I it happened in approximately two thousand and
seven or six, I'm not sure that you're six seven eight.
And then I was on this spiritual forum, private private
group that you had to pay membership. So I was,
and there was a large group of people in this
spiritual community, and I one day decided, you know what,
I'm just going to write about my experience. I've never
told anybody, this is a safe place. I typed it
out and I just a little bit. I told you.
That's that's all I had to say about it. And
two other women wrote replied and said the same thing
happened to them, and it was also for two weeks,
and I was wow. I was amazed that that had happened,
and then it wasn't until years later. I have a
YouTube channel, and I decided something nudged me. The only
way I make videos is when my higher self pushes
me to talk about something. I don't do it unless
that happens, and that was what was happening, talk about
your Jesus experiences. So I was like, Okay, other people
have done it. I've seen them do it. That means
it's okay. And if I do it, then other people
will say, oh, she did it, it's okay, so that
more people, because look, I'm not the only one. A
lot of people have Jesus experiences. Then they're probably afraid
to talk about it. So I went ahead and made
videos called my Jesus Experiences. And that was I don't know,
maybe around I don't know, twenty seventeen, eighteen nineteen, around
that time, I don't know when.
Speaker 1: So how did people around you deal with this information
when it came out?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm lucky because my entire realm of friends are
like me, so it was like, oh, that's cool, let
me talk about mine.
Speaker 2: Gotcha? Gotcha.
Speaker 1: So at this stage in life, you're surrounded with yourself
with like minded people, so it wasn't ass awkward as
it would have been in your early life if that
would have come out.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I wanted to talk.
Speaker 1: To you also about your pre birth communication with your son.
Now we've talked about pre birth communications pre birth experiences
on the show a lot. Do you remember, by the way,
do you have any pre birth experiences of remembering choosing
the soul blueprint, the life blueprint, your parents, any of
that stuff, and then also then going into this pre
birth communication with your son.
Speaker 3: So I don't personally have any memories pre birth memories myself.
The pre birth communication with my son happened not well.
One of them was not directly through me, but through
an energy healer. So I was when I was pregnant.
I was over at someone's house and she had a
baby named book, and I looked through the book to
say which I named my son when he was born.
I don't know. So I opened the book and there's Adonis,
and Adonis, as we knows Greek god means handsome, and
I chuckled. I didn't. I was alone actually at this
in this moment looking at the book, and I chuckled
inwardly like that would be so ridiculous if I named
my son Adonis. And the next day I had a
session with this energy healer over the phone and she
was able to communicate with my son his soul. So
this was like a thing that had been happening. And
I didn't say anything to her. I was just listening
to whatever she was saying. And she said, your son,
your baby is laughing and he's saying, you should name
me a Donnis. So I realized in that moment that
my that that the soul of my baby was able
to read my thoughts, knew what I was thinking. Wow,
that was pretty mind blowing.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. And did you name your son a Donna's.
Speaker 3: He is very handsome though?
Speaker 2: That is that is funny. So you also had a
walk in experience as well.
Speaker 1: Now when you said it sounded like the Jesus experience
was a walking experience in a way as well. Can
you explain to people what a walk in is and
then explain your experience if you do?
Speaker 3: Mind okay, So there are a couple of different kinds
of walk ins. One of the very common kinds that
maybe you people might know about it if they know
about a walk in, is that there's a soul the
person is maybe wants to commit suicide, they're going through
major trauma, they want to exit this lifetime. But on
the soul plane, there's an agreement made with another soul
to trade, so it's like, Okay, I'm going to leave
and your soul is going to come in a different
soul and inhabit this body to continue this life. So
that's a soul like a switch of the soul in exchange.
That did not happen to me, but and I didn't
have any there was no trauma happening at the time.
For me. Mine was the other kind, where an aspect
of your higher self comes in to be embodied that
hasn't been here before, and it feels like a walk in.
It's it is a walk in, because when that happened
to me, I didn't know that that's what had happened yet.
But I was literally looking through new eyes, and I
was looking around at humans, and in my mind, I
was calling them humans, and I knew I wasn't one
because I was brand new here. That aspect of my
soul was just here new for the first time, looking
at the humans and just saying, look at all these humans,
and I was observing them as different, you know, foreigners
to me, and everything changed. Then I would say my
vibration changed to such a degree that I changed, But
it wasn't that noticeable probably, I mean, it wasn't like
I was acting differently, But that was an internal shift.
And I started reading spiritual books as if they were food,
you know, just devouring book after book after books. So
this was another layer of a massive spiritual awakening. My
spiritual awakening started in two thousand, and it was continuing
rapidly on going all these years with massive experiences that
just kept happening. So that was how that walking went.
Speaker 1: But so this walk, so but it wasn't a permanent
obviously walking, because I've heard of permanent walking.
Speaker 3: It was permanent.
Speaker 1: So this is so this is the soul that you're
talking to now with me, right now, is the soul
that jumped in.
Speaker 3: So the it's my being, my soul that was already
here stayed, and this new aspect came in and integrated.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's an integration.
Speaker 1: But I've heard of stories where like one soul just
leaves correct and another one just picks up the bodies,
like hey, I'll take this one if you know, if
no one's using it, I'll take this one and we'll
go from here.
Speaker 3: That is yeah, And that's the first example I gave
of what people generally think of as a walk in,
and that I think is a more massive change, even
though mine was pretty.
Speaker 2: Big, pretty big as well.
Speaker 1: With all your experience as a hypnotherapist, I'd love to
hear your thoughts on near death experiences and what.
Speaker 2: Why they happen.
Speaker 1: And the purpose of why they're happening, and use your
take on them in general from all your spiritual experiences
and also your experiences life between lives and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a it's such an interesting question because because
I do the life between lives hypno therapy and then
I have been studying NDEs for probably twenty years or more,
and then so there's an overlap, meaning that both are
discovering what it's like on the other side and then
coming back to tell And I think that people are
having NDEs nowadays, and they're and they're so public now.
People like your show and others are allowing people platforms
to talk about their endes. And I think it's so
big right now because it's a deeper teaching for humanity
about ours, about ourselves, and that it must be that
the times that we're in is allowing for the consciousness
to accept it and integrate it, and then it's broadening
our consciousness and helping us evolve spiritually as people, as souls,
as humanity. So I think that it's so prevalent before that.
I think that these people have volunteered to have these
traumatic and profound experiences and come back and share in service.
And I'm sure they know that because if they're you know,
willing to talk about it and openly, it is service
to humanity. So I really do think it's about our
evolution as humans.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it is a pretty traumatic event dying
as a general statement, Why do you I think that
certain souls need that kind of wake up call or
needs that experience to continue their evolution in this life,
because it's pretty much the most extreme way to wake
you up.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, there is not.
Speaker 1: I don't foresee any other thing that's more intense than
a near death experience.
Speaker 2: So I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
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Speaker 3: I do. I agree with you, and I think it
is for these people to come back as teachers and
way showers because humanity needs it. Humanity's consciousness is very
low and it it and it's time to raise it up.
And through these teachings people coming back and sharing. I
really think it's part of the raising of the consciousness
of humanity. And I think that they have been willing
to go through that on a on a for the collective.
So on a personal level, everybody's going to have their
own individual reasons. It's going to be a catalyst for
their life, for their for people around them. And then
on a collective level when they share it's it's really
it can cause I think their stories can cause spiritual
awakenings for others.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, do you think because we've
had spiritual teachings and spiritual masters will walk the earth
for thousands of years, Jesus being one of them, Buddha Shiva,
you know, we could go on and on with so
many different spiritual masters.
Speaker 2: It seems now though these little stories of near death experiences,
of your spiritual awakenings, of.
Speaker 1: These stories are acting as a like many many arms
of a spiritual master. So in other words, if Jesus
showed back up today, I don't know how it's going
to be a difficult cell in today's world. It's just
going to be a difficult cell. But if those teachings
can be diluted, or it's not diluted, but spread out
throughout hundreds of thousands of hundreds of thousands of people
all talking about the same kind of teachings from their
perspectives when near death experience or spiritual awakening, things like that,
that's also raising the consciousness.
Speaker 2: Because when Jesus showed up, he raised.
Speaker 1: The consciousness of humanity. When Buddha showed up, he raised it.
When Confucius showed up, he raised it. And so many
other spiritual masters who walk the earth, and there are
spiritual masters right now walking the earth who are raising
consciousness as well. But it has to be done differently
than it was two thousand years ago.
Speaker 2: Would you agree?
Speaker 3: Oh? I agree completely, And I think that you're touching
on this, that these people who have NDEs who come
back and share that is a you know, it's like
literally the teaching of Jesus, the teachings of Jesus coming
through multitudes of people to spread the word, you know,
what he tried to do, which you know has gotten
a bit muddled.
Speaker 2: I mean very kind.
Speaker 3: I'm a fan of Jesus's teachings and unfortunately, you know,
it gets lost in religion, but those of us who
are not religious can really embrace his teachings, his words.
And now with the NDE, you know, people, they are
now spreading the same messages on a wide scale, and
it's coming from everyday people where it's easy to take
it in and really absorb it. And nobody is trying
to well Jesus didn't try this either, but nobody is
trying to stand on a pedestal and be a way
shower or a teacher. They're just sharing personal experience, you know,
and they're not preaching anything to any anybody.
Speaker 1: And that's the way it has to kind of come
out in today's world, because if you, like I said,
if a Jesus character showed up on this world stage,
it just I mean, I don't even it just wouldn't
work in the way did two thousand years ago.
Speaker 2: It just wouldn't work. But I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: These these these experiences, and by the way, there's out
of body experiencers there's channelers, there's near death experiences, there's
psychic mediums. There's so many different messengers of this message
out there that it's the only way that I can
kind of get out today. And then there's shows like
mine and others who are putting it out into a ward.
You know, because near death experiences, unless they have a
marketing background or have a platform general, don't they just
write a book and hopefully.
Speaker 2: Some people will read it.
Speaker 1: But with YouTube, with podcasting, with these kinds of shows,
it is spreading to millions and millions, tens of millions
of people, hundreds of millions of people a month, if
not billions of people a month, And that's very, very powerful.
Speaker 3: It's powerful, and it's exciting.
Speaker 1: Because do you agree that it is our consciousness is raising?
I mean, yes, it's been low. The lowest I think
was the Dark Ages. I think that was where we peaked.
That was the bottom of the barrel. I think then
we started to come back up. So even in the
last hundred years, you know, if we look at the
way we treated women one hundred years ago, or people
in general one hundreds of or slavery one hundred years ago,
or any of these big concepts like these are barbarians.
One hundred years from now, we're going to look back
and say the same thing about ourselves.
Speaker 2: Now, you used to do what to your food for profit?
What did you do to your people? What you had wars?
I hope that's a conversation they're having in one hundred
years in not five hundred years, right, So, Jessa, I
also I'd love to hear your point of view.
Speaker 1: There is a lot of craziness going on in the
world today, we feel it at least, and this great
consciousness is, you know, this rise of human consciousness. It's
also happening because these conversations are happening in a public forum,
which they didn't ten years ago. Honestly, fifteen years ago,
it really didn't happen. So there is something happening. But
yet at the same time, we're having ancient wars of
ancient arguments that are still going on, and we're having
you know, wars about land again and all these kinds
of things that we're like, really is this going on?
So how do you how do you coincide those those
two energies from your point of view.
Speaker 3: That's it. That's a really tough one because it feels
so ancient, like you're saying that to have war now
in this day and age, it seems so foreign and wrong.
And it must be that there's almost a split splitting
of consciousness on the planet because there's some really low
vibrational things happening, and then there are people like us
having these conversations which we couldn't even fathom war. It
doesn't even it's not part of our consciousness, it doesn't
make sense. But yet it's happening on the same planet.
So I think that there's a massive group raising consciousness
and that people on Earth are having a variety of
experiences at the level of where their consciousness is. And
in a lot of cases, for war, that's going to
because spiritual awakenings for many, you know, millions of people
in those experience in those situations, because when for example,
in a life between lives hypnot their group setting. I
was in during a demo. We were in a training
and the demo was that the woman went to World War,
to the Holocaust, and when she came back, when she
crossed over to the other side and was speaking through
as her soul, she was explaining that the purpose was
for growing unconditional love, so that if you could have
such a horrific experience, then then your soul would decide
to never do that again and embrace the importance of
unconditional love, so that over time this could shift the
consciousness of humanity. So I think that we have I
talked about as splitting. I feel like there's a lot
of humanity is massively raising their consciousness, and then there
are some parts of humanity that are still stuck in
lower consciousness and they still need their lessons and learning
and experiences because, as we know, each soul chooses the
life experience they're having. And this is really a hologram.
This isn't like a static planet. It's like you get
to choose your reality and what you're born into and
what you're going to experience. And the interesting thing about
today is that we can actually see, because of the
Internet and technology, what's happening in other places, but they
don't even have anything to do with where we are
as a soul. It's such a foreign thing. And so
there's such a dichotomy of experiences on this planet. And
it's always been that way, and I think it'll always
be that way. But perhaps because we're all connected in
quantum physics, there's this thing called entrainment that those of
us at a higher frequency are carrying the other ones up.
You just can't see it, but it's happening gradually, right.
Speaker 1: And every time a conversation like this hits somebody's ears,
who's ready for it, it starts to raise everybody's vibration,
everyone's frequency a little bit higher, and brings everybody along
with them. Absolutely, we'll be right back after a word
from our sponsor, and now back to the show. Yeah,
it just the way the Dark Ages brought everyone down,
because it was literally I mean, you went from the
rent not the Renaissance, resisurance was on the way up,
but you went from the Roman Empire and Greek philosophy
and you went down to oh my god, blood letting
and you know, burning people and you know all that
kind of you know, insanity to where we are now.
So there is a kind of growing going up, but
it is right. And then in the last hundred years,
last two hundred years, the massive growth of not only
technology but consciousness has been.
Speaker 3: I mean, look at the last twenty years even.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it seems to be accelerating very much. So
as like computer chip. So from when I was born,
and I'm assuming from you and I are a similar vintage,
are close to a similar vintage what a megabyte was
or killobites where back in the eighties and nineties and
early two thousands to where we are now. It's just
it's so fast when computers are growing and technology is growing.
Speaker 2: I mean, AI just showed up.
Speaker 1: Didn't you just hear about the word AI like six
months ago, a year ago, Like it was just like
just around the corner, like a year or two ago,
you like heard the name for the first time. And
now it's really starting to proliferate everywhere, and it's it's insane.
Speaker 3: It's insane, yes, And it's not going away.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's definitely, it's definitely not going away.
Speaker 1: I choose to, like I chose to look at AI
as a positive tool.
Speaker 2: And where we're all going to go. And it is
very positive tool.
Speaker 1: Like like any tool, it could be used to build,
it could be used to destroy, right.
Speaker 2: You know, it's same thing.
Speaker 1: One last question I want to ask you about your
experiences with your life between lives and past life therapy.
This concept of that there is no past life, there
is no future life, that all lives are happening at
the same time, which is hard for our little computers
to deal with. And if you do something in this
life and learn a lesson here, it ripples backwards quote unquote,
and it ripples forward quote unquote. Can you I'd love
to hear your explanation of that to people.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's hard to explain, but I do
get the concept. It took me a while to mentally grasp.
But I think when you hear all lives are simultaneous,
at first, your mind can't process that and it takes
a while to conceptualize it. Not that we can fully
conceptualize it with the human mind because we're living in
linear time time, but we can attempt to get that.
And so because we have time as a construct here
in this planet as part of our physics, it doesn't
exist outside of this constructor hologram or whatever this realm is.
So you get that. You know that from the people
who have had near death experiences, how they talk about
there's no time on the other side. But so, so
all of our lives are happening simultaneously, which only like
the mind of God or our souls could really comprehend
but if the soul aspects come into the bodies in
these different time eras, you know, years of Earth history,
they're all playing out at the same time, it means
that there's also no no space. There's no space or time,
but here in this playground we it's been created to
have that. So it's like, you know, multiple dimensions can
coinhabit space really and anything that happens in one life
is actually directly affecting the other ones. So it's almost like,
I think of a way to explain it as like
if you have a rug, you know, like an oriental
rug and has a lot of patterns all over. It's
a flat plane, but when you're above it, you could say, okay,
I'm going to zoom in onto that flower, or I'm
going to zoom in onto that diamond, you know, and
it's like any your soul can go into that you know,
year fifteen twenty eight, or I'm going to go into
twenty twenty four. So it's like from the outside, you
could just go into this place where all of it
exists at once, and our souls get to inhabit, you know,
incarnate in all of these different times, but it's all
happening at the same time. And it's weird because we
talk about how we're learning, right, we're growing, we're evolving,
but it's also all already happened, so we're kind of
just going along with the we're just on the ride.
Speaker 1: Right, And then if you want to, if you wanted
to have your head explode, then you're like, well what
about ultimate timelines? And like every choice that you make,
every major choice you make in a lifetime, not if
you eat drink ketchup or mustard, that's not a big choice,
but if you should I date that person, should I
take this job, should I.
Speaker 2: Move to this city?
Speaker 1: Well, what would have happened if I didn't go to
that school? Whatever, would have ever met that person? Well,
let's see how that plays out.
Speaker 2: So that is that true as well?
Speaker 3: That's one hundred percent true. There are all, you know,
parallel timelines, so many that we can't even imagine for
your one life. So you know, you have Alex doing
this show, but you also have Alex who really did
make it in the movie world, and it's like a
massively successful, there, huge multiage.
Speaker 1: Spielberg Spielberg, I'm Spielberg in another lifetime, I'm Spielberg there's
no question.
Speaker 2: There's no question.
Speaker 3: So I mean, I've actually seen it with my own eyes.
I don't know if you want me to share, but
like just visually seeing, you know, parallel.
Speaker 2: Universe of your own life.
Speaker 3: Of a friend she had, she was going to meet
me for lunch, and there were two scenarios, one in
which her husband drove and I kind of hung out,
you know, doing window shopping while we went to lunch,
and another version where he said that the last minute, no,
you just take the car and you go by yourself.
And that's what happened. He said, you just go. I
knew the other version was going to happen, but at
the last minute he said, you go ahead. I'm just
going to stay home. But when I was driving to
look for parking, I saw him and her park parked
on the on the street and she he was he
she got out and went to the restaurant, and then
I drove around to park and then I got there,
and when I was and then when I drove around,
when I was walking to the restaurant, I saw him
sitting in the car looking at his cell phone. So
I saw that version. But then I got to the
restaurant and The version of my friend that I saw
in the restaurant was the one where he said, no,
I'm staying home, you drive yourself, because she told me that,
and we and then at the end of lunch, we
both walked to our car, which was not where he
was parked, but in the parking garage where I was parked,
and she was parked next to me. And so I
saw the version of her, and I saw her in
the other car. I saw the parallel realities of two
life streams of her.
Speaker 2: So then is this deja vu?
Speaker 3: No? This is literally no is no?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Is this do when we have a feeling of dejevu?
Is it a parallel reality that you were? Like, God,
I've been here before. God, I swear I just saw
this happen.
Speaker 2: Or something like that.
Speaker 3: It is something like that.
Speaker 2: And then let's not get into the Mendela effect, because
that's a whole other I could get into a deep conversation.
All right.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know how old you
are exactly, But do you know who Ed McMahon was.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm fifty two.
Speaker 1: So okay, So yeah, you were both a similar, very
very similar vintage Okay, so you know who Ed McMahon was.
For everybody listening, google him. Tonight Show Johnny Carson, Okay,
did he walk up to people's doors with a giant
check for Publishers clearing House and give people million dollar checks?
Speaker 3: He absolutely did, Thank you.
Speaker 2: I remember that as well. But if you go to
publish a clearinghouse it said Ed McMahon has never worked
for us. I'm not kidding you. He's never worked for us.
Speaker 1: And apparently he worked for another company in a similar fashion,
but they never had TV then, they never had TV
commercials or something.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the deal was.
Speaker 1: But publisher Clearinghouse has no recollection of.
Speaker 2: And it was publisher's clearing house.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: That was what a weird idol? What a weird like?
Why are they handing out million dollar checks? It didn't
make no sense.
Speaker 3: Well, here we go, and it's this the Mandel effect.
Literally is this? You know, parallel universe is playing out
in different ways.
Speaker 2: It is, And if anyone wants to, I've had quantum.
Speaker 1: Physicists on talking about Mendela effects. So please do a
search on my show and you'll find out all about
the Mendel effect. It's been such a pleasure talk to you.
I'm gonna ask a few questions. I asked all of
my guests.
Speaker 2: What is your definition of living a fulfilled life?
Speaker 3: I think being authentic, living authentically and in alignment with
your own soul.
Speaker 1: If you had a chance to go back in time
and speak to little Stephanie, what advice would you give her?
Speaker 3: I would tell her to express herself more and it's
safe to do that.
Speaker 2: How do you define God or source energy?
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 3: I think that God or source is everything, the all
that is.
Speaker 2: What is your definition of love?
Speaker 3: Love is who we are and what we are?
Speaker 2: And what is the ultimate purpose of life?
Speaker 3: Love?
Speaker 2: And where can people find out more about you and
the amazing work you're doing in the world.
Speaker 3: So my website is Stephanie Craft dot com. I also
have another website because I make products and it's called
Radiant Sun Botanicals. And I have YouTube channel which is
my name is Stephanie Craft.
Speaker 2: And do you have any parting messages for the audience.
Speaker 3: Always follow your heart, your soul, your passions, and try
to be you the authentic you Sephanie.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show and
sharing your experiences with us, and for all the work
you're doing to raise the consciousness of the planet.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Alex.
Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.
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