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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly

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video game show here at gig Versus. I'm your host,

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Del Muss, and I have with me the Queen of

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co op herself, Jessica. Welcome back. How are you doing tonight?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, Thanks for having me. It's been a hot minute.

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Happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it was back in like November or

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October or something like that. But yeah, we've been gaming

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a lot, I guess, mostly clock Tower, which I don't

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know if you consider that gaming or not. It's kind

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of gaming adjacent, but it's.

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Speaker 2: A online yeah, it's a video game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then also we've be playing some other co

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op games. You're always playing, you are the Queen of

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co op, as your name would suggest. And then I've

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also been playing Karen and High Guards. So we have

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a lot of fun games to talk about today, and

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we're just gonna get right into it. Let's start with well, okay, yeah,

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let's see where. Let's start with co op Kaiju Horror Cooking,

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which is a game that I think is intentionally supposed

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to be kind of silly on the nose, maybe a

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bit fourth walldy in terms of like the genre that

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it's going after. This is a game from Strange Scaffold,

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who are a studio that just like spam games, They

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have like four or five games come out every year

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pretty much, and they've done that consistently for the last

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like three or four years. They just make things quick,

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kind of dirty, you know, not necessarily the highest quality.

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Every once in a while. I feel like once a

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year they have like one big, like more quality thing,

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and then the other stuff is kind of just a

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janky mix of genres. But they never do the same

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thing twice. It's a very like Meta company, very interesting,

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the kind of not metas in like the Facebook company

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making virtual reality games, but Meta is in like this

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co op kaiju horror cooking, like just taking the genre

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and you know, being self aware of what they're doing here.

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So yeah, the premise of this game is geez, how

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would you describe it?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 1: It's you and up to a few. You can technically

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support up to four, but then they're like, oh, you

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can do eight if you want, but just like is

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not gonna run very well. They're like, it's like very

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buggy if you do that. So I like that they're

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very honest about that. It's you and your buddies. You

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show up at this well, first you're in this town,

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you're talking to people, you can get equipment and stuff

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like that, and then you go to this cooking sequence.

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You're kind of at the top of this mountain. You

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can see off in the distance there's a kaiju slowly

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walking towards the camp. So outside right here by this

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camp there's you know, a bunch of cooking. There's a

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cooking apparatuses, you know, cutting boards, stoves, that kind of thing,

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and then next to that there's like a cave dungeon entrance,

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and so it's kind of, you know, totally up to

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you the way you want to divvy out your strategy.

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The way we're doing it is like we usually had

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one dedicated chef, so they'd be out there, they'd be

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preparing the food, they'd be making sure that we're getting

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the right ingredients, and then the rest of us would

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just fly into the dungeon try not die. And we

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eventually got a little bit better at it. But we've

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played a few sessions of this, it's been a bit

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since we have played it, but I really like this game.

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I've had a lot of fun with it. Of Course,

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the cave out again. It is extremely janky. But yeah,

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what have you thought with Kaiju Cooking? Do you want

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to get back in there or if you like had

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your time with it at this point?

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Speaker 2: That one was what we cost us, like five dollars.

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Speaker 1: That's true vir cheap.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think I got my five dollars worth.

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I'm not gonna lie. It was not my you know,

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top tier game that I've played recently. It was It

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had its moments, It was fun, but it was I

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don't know, it was very repetitive for me. I think

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it was the main thing. Yeah, and also I was

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playing with people I won't name any names cough Dylan

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that wouldn't let me spam the cheat to get us

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free money and automatically pass the level.

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Speaker 1: A couple of times we didn't know. You can just

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like one of the button sheets is just like unlocked

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by default. You can just like hit F eleven or

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whatever and like get the wind condition. Like you don't

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even have to like enable in settings or like a

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console command. It's so silly that they just allow you

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to do that whenever you can, like accidentally just hit

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this cheat button.

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Speaker 2: It was great. The first level, like we passed and

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we're like, oh, we get so much money, And I

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was like, oh, guys, just so you know, I've found

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this chet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it is fun and it has like, you know,

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the these little nuances to it of like trying to

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figure it out, but it's definitely janky.

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Speaker 1: I died a lot.

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Speaker 2: I died almost every time we entered that dungeon. So

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it was good. Like if someone comes and pick ups

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your body, takes you back outside, you can you know,

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get brought back to life.

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Speaker 1: But which we it took us a while to figure

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that out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So and there is like the list too. You

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have to be careful what you're grabbing, you know, sometimes

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they like fruit or butter everything like that. But yeah,

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it was fun, but it's I was not good at it,

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let's be honest. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even like the difficulty jump just even

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from the first level and like the second one, just

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the amount of enemies. How dangerous is like, yeah, the

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dungeon is extremely savage. You don't have like great tools

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to fight off enemies. And as you said, you're kind

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of going through the dungeon trying to find the right food,

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the right ingredients, and then also picking up like potions

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or like weapons, torches, like that kind of basic stuff.

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Some of it's like fighting monsters. Sometimes it's more just

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like running past them, but they're so fast too, like

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it's not very easy to just like kite them. And

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you're in like very tight corridors as well. Sometimes you're

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on like balance beams essentially, so if you take one

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wrong turn, you just like fall right off into some

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pit death pit below and then yeah, it's like you

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don't have a lot of HP and it's kind of

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hard to arrive people as well, So they really amp

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up the difficulty like almost immediately too. Like even the

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first level took us a few tries.

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Speaker 2: And there is no like tutorial. It's basically like true,

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you're just thrown into this dungeon. You run into a

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mechanic and you don't know what it does. You basically

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just have to walk into it and you're like, oh,

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that's a bomb and it kills me. There was no

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way to know that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even like what some of the potions do, it's

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like kind of unclear. You kind of just have to

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take it and then through process of elimination figure out

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what it does. But I feel like eventually we got

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like we got into a good rhythm of it of like, okay,

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we got to stick together. When we're in a dungeon,

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we're gonna like clear out certain sections first, kind of

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make almost shortcuts in a way by clearing out certain

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pathways and figuring out what you're doing. But I think

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that was even this thing too, is like you kind

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of get used to the layouts of the levels and

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there isn't like a ton of variety there either. So yeah,

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definitely not you know, a game that you're gonna be

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coming back to for months at a time. But yeah,

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five hours out of it over two or three sessions.

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time with it. And yeah, the silly part of I

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think the I like how silly it is in general,

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just how goofy your characters look you and like customize

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their look. But then like the cooking part of it,

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because I guess we haven't described this yet, is you're

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doing your cooking, you do, you know, cooking things up,

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putting some salt on it, chopping things on the cutting board,

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mashing things up, and you put it in a catapult

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you just dump food in this catapult and you just

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launch the food into the kaiju's mouth because they're so

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far away and they're like slowly walking to wards and

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you have to feed them enough before they get to you.

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a regular sized meal, and so it's like this, how

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could this even feed the kaiju? This is like, you know,

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zero point zero zero one percent of its body, yet

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it's enough to fill it up apparently, so very silly,

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and I like the silly vibes of it, And like,

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what was the singing you can do?

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Speaker 2: Or you just like yeah, like if you like look up,

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you sing higher pitch, if you look down, you sing

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lower pitch. And that's everyone has to come and chant

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in order to actually go and feed the kaiju. Right, Honestly,

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it was probably my favorite part, just standing there chanting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I guess you'd use that to

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like find your teammates and stuff, But I don't know

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if we ever really did it for any utility other

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than just like meming. It was mostly mostly just around with.

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Speaker 2: Each other, ye percent, and yeah, lots of times like

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you're standing there and you're like the who's not chanting,

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who's not yelling? Because you know, I don't know it.

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we really touched on that, like you can change how

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you look and that too. Do you remember? Was that

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anything worthwhile?

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Speaker 1: Not really, it's I mean, your characters are always gonna

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look goofy and and they all kind of look similar

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no matter what, Like they're just kind of a funnily

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like plump individual and usually putting like some funny facial hair,

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like a haircut on them or something like yeah, haircut,

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weird hats, things like that. But even like customize all

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the colors, that was fun. It's like full gradient mode.

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colorful as you want. So I liked it for what

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it is, you know, it's it's a good enough time.

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the multiplayer co op game of last year, which was Peak,

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and we haven't I've not played much. I think you

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played more than me, so I'm curious to see what

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that experience was like. But yeah, for anyone who forgets

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janky co op game. I feel like this one's kind

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of like the top quality of the bunch. It's kind

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of the least janky out of these games. But you know,

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part of this genre is that these games are supposed

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to be a little bit silly and goofy, and especially

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with like the characters, designs and all that. But this

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one's very simple. You just climb climbing a mountain together.

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can happen between. But yeah, I think I saw on

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Steam or Discord or something that you had played some more.

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So what was that? Like did you go to the

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next level or did you restart from the beginning? Like

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what have you been doing in Peak?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I mean every single time you seem to

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start from the beginning from that same beach every single time,

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and the first level is always that same mountain. So yeah,

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I've played multiple different times with multiple different people. The

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first beach mountain is always the same, and then every

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time I've played, the second level has always been different.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's like keep it fresh, got it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I've played. Yeah, there was like the desert

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when we played, and then there was like a mushroom

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world and then like a poison mountain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it was yeah, all of them kind of with

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their own different challenges. It's honestly been one of my

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like go to games when someone's like, oh, you know,

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of time. I'm like, hey, like this is a great

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game to just load up and try and run up

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this mountain.

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Speaker 1: Another super cheap game as well.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah it would. It was like on sale

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for like ten bucks something like that.

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with like a new area or something.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and you know, shout out to the two

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people that shot me in the ass with a blow

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dart and made fall down a mountain and die.

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Speaker 1: Who would do such a thing.

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Speaker 2: I know the fact that if I had a nickel

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for every time I was shot with a sleep dart

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and peak, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot. Yeah,

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but it sucks that it happens twice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you rub them together, maybe they'll breed

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and turn into more. You never know what happens with

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these nickels these.

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Speaker 2: Days, right, I'll get on it. So yeah, but that

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wouldn't I super fun. There's been a couple of different

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things I've discovered, like since we've played, Like if you

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read that book that you find at the top of

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the mountain, you can actually turn into a skeleton. If

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you get webbed up by spiders a bunch, like, you

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can get a mummy like skin and then you're you

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look like a mummy. Little fun things like that.

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Speaker 1: Do those change mechanically or are they just like visual differences?

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Speaker 2: The mummy is purely visual. The skeleton takes away your health.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, and I don't like death or something like

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if you take any damage, you.

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Speaker 2: Just yeah, very much. Yeah, it was. It was rough.

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Speaker 1: That's hardcore mode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And then I tried playing because I think when we

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did it, we did like the normal where you have

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to just there's no fog or anything. I don't know

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if you remember that, but then there is, yeah, the

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regular mode where there is like a fog that kind

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of follows you up, so you do have to move

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at a certain pace.

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Speaker 1: Oh I see, okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah exactly. So that was kind of a fun element.

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The other people that I played with didn't want to

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do like the local in game. Uh, like chat and

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I actually, yeah, I really like playing the PROC chat

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with you kind of gave it a fun element, especially

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with the bugle and having to like listen for the

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bugle to try find you. Yeah, so if people are

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looking to check it out, I would definitely recommend trying

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it with the Proximity Chat because it's just another fun element.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's kind of like I feel like

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the the hidden secret about this genre in particular, and

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it kind of makes you work together. But then also

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it adds like a bit of an element where you

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can like troll your friends by like disappearing or just

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like not saying anything and pretending that you've disappeared and

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then like yeah, pop out with like a saxophone or

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something like that and just have some fun with it.

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So I would definitely recommend the Proximity Chat too. And

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I feel like in Peak, it's like it was so

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janky and RV there yet, like we could not tell

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if we were muted or not because the button is

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just like very unclear and the game like doesn't have

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as much feedback. But Peak was a lot more obvious

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about whether or not you could you know you were

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speaking and like being heard and stuff like that. So

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maybe maybe that was just because it was a one

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on one session too and we weren't getting distracted by

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all sorts of things. But I definitely want to play

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a lot more of this game. I have been meaning

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to get back in there and play some more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely to play it again, and I think

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it would be fun with more people. And you know,

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even with the proximity chat trying to figure it out.

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But because you do have to consider that the amount

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that you can carry up is based on you know,

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you need more people to be able to carry more

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things to like spread the weight.

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Speaker 1: Out right right, uh.

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Speaker 2: And I also found out that there's like bingbong at

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like the very base of the island, there's like this

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little stuffy and apparently if you carry it all the

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way to the top of the mountain you get an achievement.

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So like, okay, I need to get back in there

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for that achievement. If you are wanting to play.

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Speaker 1: I do, I do. Yeah, I mean that was like

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a fun part of it too. Is just like on

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your in your backpack is where you keep all your stuff,

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but you can't like reach your backpack necessarily. You have

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to like get I think there's ways around it, but

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you like have to pretty much get your teammate to

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go in there for you and fish things out, And

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so that just adds like another good reason to stick

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together or and also like spread out the kinds of

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items you have, or you could like have specialists. Like

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I feel like there actually are like a lot of

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strategies you could take, even though it doesn't seem like

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a game that would have that kind of mechanical depth.

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But there's so many weird items in that game, some

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that I didn't really know what they would be useful for,

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why you would want them, or even what they did

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at all. And so I feel like that adds a

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good amount of replayability to it as well, like just

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trying different things each time you climb up the mountain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I did find out basically, Yeah, you have

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to take the backpack off, set it on the ground,

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and then pick your items right when I put it

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back time. Yeah, And I mean I don't know if

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you remember, but when you and me played, all that

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would happen was I would take off my backpack to

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go and look at it, and all of a sudden,

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Dylan had filled it with multiple items and weighed me down,

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and I was like, I didn't touch a single one

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of these items. Where these come from?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean you added the cookies too, so I

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had to get in there and get it, get my

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snack in on and maybe maybe i'd drop something in

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there while we're at it. But I feel, yeah, it

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took us a while to realize. Well maybe it took

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you a while to realize you had a lot more

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going on in your backpack. I feel like we were

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just like how was I able to climb this? And

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you weren't, Like how did my stamina work? When we

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both have full health And it just turns out that,

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oh yeah, you had like a million more things than me.

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But I think that was a cool thing too, like

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based on like your health bar is like also your

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stam in a bar, right, and like like the more

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damage you take, like that takes away from your axima

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staminat or like if you're hungry and stuff, that takes

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away from your STAM. And I forget exactly how the

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mechanic works, but I think it's cool. I mean a

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lot of games have things like that where just putting

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all of them kind of together makes it so you

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have to keep track of your stats, and I feel like,

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rather than separating all these different mechanics, I gotta make

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sure I'm sleeping, got to make sure I'm eating, got

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to make sure I'm like healing myself, just having it

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all in one bar makes it, I don't know, even

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even more meaningful. I guess all these things you want

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to keep tiptop shape, but that gets harder and hard

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as you go up and you're running a loan resources

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and makes you want to take more risks of like

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maybe I'll go for that present over there. It's a

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little bit of my way. I don't know how much

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time it's gonna take, but like maybe it'll have a

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good item you need, and maybe it won't. Then you've

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just wasted a bunch of time and energy. So I

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feel like it has a lot of like good just

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good little decisions in there along with it just being

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like a janky friend co op game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that was one thing too that I notice,

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is you the beginning, like in that first mountain, you

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might pick up antidotes and things like that, but there

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wasn't really anywhere that you got poisoned. But depending on

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what world you get the next time, like the one

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time that I got the Poison World, had I been

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smart enough to pick up and carry all of those

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items with me, it would have been really useful. Right,

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So there is you know, some like longevity and being

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able to plan ahead about being able to hold those

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items that yeah, they're weighing you down now, but I

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might need them depending on what world I get next.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmm yeah yeah really, uh, really fun game so far.

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So yeah, I'm definitely when you played again with some friends,

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how many people did you have in the in the party?

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Speaker 2: It's just one on one for oh okay, okay, So

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and don't forget to honorable mention. You get to play

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chess in the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that was very fun because it's like not it

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is a regular chess board, but there aren't like uh

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like ti the tiles are not mechanically in the game,

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so you just have to pick up the pieces and

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put them down and like the game does not check

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like oh you can't move a piece there, that's not

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a legal move, so like you just have to keep

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keeping on them. But Jess, I remember as a as

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a kid, do you remember that show that was like

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Home renov it was like ty Pennington's Home Renovation. Did

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you ever watch that show on TLC where they would

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like take a family away from their home for a

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couple of weeks and they'd like completely redecorate the house. Yes,

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And I always, as a kid would just be fascinated

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by the way they decorate the kids rooms, which are

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like not you know, not actually like efficient, good kids rooms,

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but they always had like a crazy theme that As

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a kid, I was like, whoa, I wanted a bedroom

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like that. And I remember one of them was like

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a kid who had like a full, like human sized

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chessboard in their room, and I was like, that is

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the coolest thing ever. I'm gonna have one of those

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one day. And like I probably won't because who's got

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the time or money or space to have a kind

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of thing like that. But I like, I like in

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peak or in games, when it's just like here's just

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a giant chessboard, it just makes it more fun for

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some reason. So I really enjoyed that we had a

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good game of chess there.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I lost shout out to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we didn't even really leave the airport

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for like a half an hour at least like we

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were just there was a climbing wall, we were playing chess,

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we were just throwing things.

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Speaker 2: They were the basketball who there.

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Speaker 1: Basketball hoop you and like take selfies and whatnot, like

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in the photo booth, Like there's just a lot of

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things you can mess.

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Speaker 2: Around with in there, and there was a lot of that.

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There was a lot of really fun customization in the beginning,

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even before you go and play and like earn anything.

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Different eyes, different colors, yeah, different facial expressions. So yeah,

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we we had a good time in that little room

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even before we started.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Absolutely anything else on Peak specifically here.

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Speaker 2: No, I'd recommend it. Yeah, that's my final thought.

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll play more and we'll we'll report back

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on it. But since we're talking about Peak, let me

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roll that into another climbing game. So Cairn spelled c

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ai R and just came out a couple of days ago.

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It had like a demo a few months ago or

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something like that, So I feel like it's it's been around,

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it's been a couple of showcases. So I feel like

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in terms of climbing games, this is kind of climb

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It's like almost a bit more mainstream, more people like

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have their eyes on it. And then it's a game

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that's like this niche normally would So, yeah, this came out.

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I've been playing it. I played over the weekend of

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maybe like four or five hours in or something like that.

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It's kind of a really trying to be a climbing

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simulation game. It's trying to take the mechanics of like

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actual rock climbing, physical rock climbing a lot more seriously

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than other games, because you know, Peak or like Breath

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of the Wild things like that have like a stamina

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bar and you're like climbing over ledges and things like that.

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But it's not really about, oh, where to exactly do

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I put my hand or my foot to like climb

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up this thing, right, It's more about managing your stamina

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and position, like general position and whatnot. But it's not

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as precise in that way. And then I played another

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game a couple of years ago called Jussant, which was

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a similar thing to Karen, and then it's like, hey,

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you just got to climb this big ass mountain. You

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just got to get up there. But I think that

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00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,240
one of the biggest downfalls for me Wich you saw

477
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,920
and I played the whole thing, so I still enjoyed it,

478
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,960
and I guess to get through it all is that

479
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,880
you don't use your feet at all, right, Like your

480
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,200
feet are like automatically moved as you're climbing up mountain.

481
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,759
It's more about like putting your hands in certain positions,

482
00:19:56,039 --> 00:19:57,960
and so it feels like a step up from you know,

483
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,559
there's so many games where you can like climb climb ledges,

484
00:20:01,599 --> 00:20:03,400
climb walls, but usually it's like, Okay, you can put

485
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,079
your hand on like the yellow things, right, but you're

486
00:20:05,079 --> 00:20:06,680
not really actually putting them there. You're just kind of

487
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,400
pressing up or right or left, and your character vaguely

488
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,519
moves in that direction. So you just sound was like

489
00:20:11,519 --> 00:20:13,559
a step up from those kind of games, and then

490
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,240
Karen is like, now another step up from those as well,

491
00:20:17,599 --> 00:20:20,039
or from that game specifically, in that you know, there's

492
00:20:20,039 --> 00:20:23,599
no like yellow painted objects on these walls here. There's

493
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,960
just a bunch of different rock features. There's like I

494
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,599
don't know, little tight little areas, little bars or things

495
00:20:28,599 --> 00:20:30,640
like that, or just like bigger things that you're pressing into.

496
00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:32,640
And yeah, the biggest thing for me is that you

497
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,240
control your feet as well, So it's it's one of

498
00:20:35,279 --> 00:20:36,720
those games that, like you have a lot of control

499
00:20:36,759 --> 00:20:39,680
over your character because you have all four limbs, and

500
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,839
I've switched to a control scheme where like the two

501
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,240
triggers and the two bumpers are just my like individual limbs.

502
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 2: There.

503
00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 1: There is one of my annoyances with the game, and

504
00:20:49,519 --> 00:20:51,039
maybe I just haven't figured this out yet or not

505
00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:54,920
good enough at it yet. Is that like anytime you

506
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,279
you essentially press square with whatever limb you're gonna use,

507
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,200
and then you like start moving that limb and then

508
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,279
you press square to like you know, lock it into something,

509
00:21:02,599 --> 00:21:04,640
and then the game kind of automatically picks like what

510
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,359
your next limb should be essentially, so it's like, oh,

511
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,119
you should probably move a leg here, move a hand here.

512
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,640
But like, since I and you are like climbers, like

513
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,319
I'm like, I know what limb I want to move here,

514
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,079
and I want to do every single movement on this.

515
00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:17,039
I don't want you to automatically do anything, and so

516
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,400
sometimes I have to fight with it a bit to

517
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,079
be like, no, I want to move move my leg right, now,

518
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,680
let me move my leg without just immediately taking my

519
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,079
hand off. And now I have to like find a

520
00:21:24,079 --> 00:21:26,599
new spot for that, So I think that I got

521
00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:28,000
to get used to that. And there's like a bunch

522
00:21:28,039 --> 00:21:30,559
of different control schemes you can use, and there's even

523
00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:32,119
like easier ones where you don't have to worry about

524
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,440
your feet as much. But obviously I kind of want

525
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,720
like all of the levels of depth in there. But honestly,

526
00:21:37,759 --> 00:21:41,559
it's it's it's definitely like the best climbing game I've

527
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,079
played in terms of like actually getting some of these

528
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,480
mechanics right. I definitely there's more things I want, Like

529
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,279
you can't really do any dynamic sort of moves, like

530
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,960
so you can't do like a jumping type thing. You

531
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,519
can't like do heel hooks or like toe hooks and

532
00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:57,559
like fun things like that. Even just moving the foot

533
00:21:57,599 --> 00:21:59,680
is a huge improvement over other climbing games, but there

534
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,000
are more things I would like to be able to do,

535
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,839
or certain things I'm like, man, I know how to

536
00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:05,680
climb this, but I can't get my character to like

537
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,680
do it the way I would actually want to do it,

538
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,119
just certain things with like flagging and whatnot. But there

539
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,240
are still some of those mechanics in there, So I

540
00:22:12,319 --> 00:22:14,720
think you would really like this game as you've been

541
00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:16,960
getting hooked into climbing the last year or two here,

542
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,279
So I would definitely recommend it, I think even I mean,

543
00:22:20,319 --> 00:22:22,160
it seems like a lot of non climber people I

544
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,720
really like, and it just has like a mechanical game

545
00:22:24,759 --> 00:22:26,720
Like it's obviously just like really well designed in that

546
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,599
general gameplay, but then also it's got like kind of

547
00:22:31,599 --> 00:22:33,400
survival things like you're trying to keep track of your

548
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,720
stamina and whatnot. Like if you're climbing one long rock face,

549
00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:38,880
eventually your arms, especially if you're like in a bad position,

550
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,079
your arms will start to like tire out, and so

551
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,920
you can like shake them. There's literally button to just

552
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,000
shake your arms out. There's a button like chalk up,

553
00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:47,559
which like helps you climb for a bit longer. But

554
00:22:47,839 --> 00:22:49,319
a big part of it is like trying to find

555
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,079
a good place to rest on the wall, too, which

556
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,839
is like that's a really cool mechanic. I like that

557
00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:55,079
that's in there because that's a very true to climbing

558
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,880
kind of thing. Get the pump out of your arms,

559
00:22:57,839 --> 00:23:00,559
and then you know there's like food and like health

560
00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:02,559
and like all sorts of other items. A big part

561
00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:04,119
of it is like you know, it's not just bouldering.

562
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,119
It's obviously you got to put pittons in the wall

563
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,240
and stuff like that so that you can lock into

564
00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:09,880
your rope so you don't you know, if you fall,

565
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,960
you don't just immediately die, although they do have a

566
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,799
free solo mode so you can try and beat the

567
00:23:13,799 --> 00:23:17,759
whole game without uh, I guess, without falling and dying once,

568
00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:19,200
which would not be good and I would have died

569
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,759
multiple times by now, so I'm not doing that on

570
00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:22,119
my first play through, that's for sure.

571
00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask if there was a free solo mode,

572
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,079
so yeah, But that does kind of lead into the

573
00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:30,599
other part is how is it decided then if there's

574
00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:33,319
no yellow if I try and grab something that is

575
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,319
very obviously ungrabbable, will the game still find a way

576
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,000
or will it like if I'm trying to grab here,

577
00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:42,039
it'll auto shift to the right and then like grab

578
00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:43,359
it or how does that mechanic?

579
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, no auto shifting. I mean, I think

580
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,880
one of the coolest things about it is you can

581
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,559
get into like a like picture like the chimney right

582
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,640
at Nice where it's just like a U shaped wall essentially,

583
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,599
like you can climb that kind of thing by just

584
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,079
pressing your like your arms and legs and there's no

585
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,519
holes at all, but you're just like applying the pressure

586
00:24:00,559 --> 00:24:03,200
pressing against the walls and you can like scale up

587
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,359
that way, so it it it's like really precise. And

588
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,599
sometimes you'll just put a hand or it's not even

589
00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:11,079
a hold on anything. It's like just pressed against the

590
00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:12,960
wall or just like to balance out your weight a

591
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,799
little bit. Often that will happen with your feet too,

592
00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:17,960
where like technically your toes on the wall, but it's

593
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,960
not really doing anything, like if you let go with

594
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,680
your other foot, you'll just like slip right off, like

595
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,720
it's not holding onto anything. I mean. There's also like

596
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,960
different surfaces as well. It seems like which I'm still

597
00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:27,920
kind of picking up on, but like, oh yeah, this

598
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,039
kind of rock, if it has this little rubbish whatever

599
00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:31,720
on it, you kind of like slip like right off

600
00:24:31,759 --> 00:24:33,839
of it really easily. But for the most part, I'd

601
00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:37,079
say it's pretty clear, like what are it almost is

602
00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:38,559
like true to climbing in that sense. It's like, Okay,

603
00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:39,759
I can tell this is like a jug. This is

604
00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:41,720
a good hold my character, even if I have no

605
00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:43,279
feet on, like they'll be able to just like hold

606
00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:45,640
this here, and then you can tell like just the

607
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,599
positioning and how like how much what the angle of

608
00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:50,519
the wall is like whether you'll be able to hold

609
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:52,880
onto it or not. And I mean, I'm I even

610
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,799
though I do climb and understand a lot of like

611
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,480
the physics of climbing, I'm still getting rocked in certain

612
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:01,319
in certain situations intended there, I guess of man, there

613
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,640
is some really really tricky situations where it's like I

614
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,039
don't I don't know. Because there's a button you can

615
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,799
use to like zoom out and just like look at

616
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:09,079
the big rock face and you can like really walk around,

617
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,359
like there's definitely multiple ways you could get up any

618
00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:14,839
one situation. But even then, like I'll zoom out and

619
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,799
I'll look around for like a minute or two, and

620
00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:18,319
I'm like, man, I don't even know. I don't know

621
00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:20,319
what the easiest or best way to go about this is.

622
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,720
I feel like, no matter what, it's gonna get a

623
00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:24,599
bit dicey. So usually it's like, Okay, I'm gonna try

624
00:25:24,599 --> 00:25:26,799
and get to this spot up here, and then I'm

625
00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:28,880
gonna hook into the wall, and then I can try

626
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,839
a couple of things because then if I fall from there, well,

627
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,839
now just fall back to my safety spot and then

628
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,039
I can go from there. And so I feel like

629
00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:37,359
there is some fun like strategy of that too, and

630
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,759
a little bit of resource management, not a ton of that.

631
00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:42,559
This is also like Peak. Actually you have a backpack.

632
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,240
The backpack and this is very cute because rather than

633
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:47,480
it being like, oh, you have six slots and you

634
00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:49,519
click them into the slots, it's just like a bunch

635
00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:51,480
of things like sitting in a backpack and they kind

636
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,640
of like fall with gravity and you like shake up

637
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,279
your backpack and they'll all like move around like a

638
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:57,440
gumball machine kind of thing as they like fall back

639
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,839
into place, and then you can like try you I'll

640
00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:02,640
be picking up trash on the mountain and recycling it

641
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,240
to just get rid of the garbage that people have

642
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,799
left behind the other climbers who have tried to climb

643
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:09,799
this mountain before. So there's there's other good little mechanics

644
00:26:09,799 --> 00:26:11,079
in there too, and like you can set up camp,

645
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,079
try and sleep. You can make a make a tee

646
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,759
which might like power you up and give you like

647
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:17,640
a temporary boost kind of like in that Peak way

648
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,599
of like what it was, it like the you have,

649
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,920
like the lollipop or something. Yeah, like the things that

650
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,000
just give you, like the temporary like megaboosts. But I

651
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:28,519
was telling you this that the game's tutorial area starts

652
00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:31,200
you in a climbing gym and it just makes you

653
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,200
do three basic climbs, like three very basic ladders pretty much,

654
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,519
and that's the tutorial. But then there's like a bunch.

655
00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:40,200
There's like maybe I think ten or fifteen like actual

656
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,079
full problems in there, and they get up to like

657
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:45,359
pretty difficult ones. And yeah, I spent like a good

658
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,680
hour hour and a half getting everything in there because

659
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,680
I'm like, I want to climb every single problem in

660
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,759
this gym before I move onto the mountain. And then

661
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:54,000
I love that it's not even really contextualized in a

662
00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:55,839
logical way. You literally just climb out of a rock

663
00:26:55,839 --> 00:26:57,400
face and then you're like at the base of a mountain.

664
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,119
So I don't know where this climbing gym is. It's

665
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,279
a really random spot. It doesn't feel like a real world.

666
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:04,519
But yeah, I spend a lot of time in the

667
00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:06,440
climbing gym too, and that was fun because the holes

668
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,759
are much more clear obviously where exactly everything is, Whereas

669
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:11,799
when you're actually out on the mountain itself, there's a

670
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:13,920
ton of more variety in terms of the way you're

671
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,799
gonna go or in the climate. You know, obviously it's

672
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:17,599
like okay, well I have to use these exact holes

673
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,759
to get to the top. So yeah, I'm really enjoying

674
00:27:21,759 --> 00:27:24,960
this game. I'm definitely gonna probably see the whole thing through.

675
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,160
I don't know what kind of replayability it has. Obviously,

676
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,079
like I said, you can kind of go up different routes,

677
00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:30,720
and there's the free solo mode and other things like

678
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:33,359
that in different control schemes you could try out. But

679
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,359
I don't know how much I'll get into all that stuff,

680
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,839
but at least for one play through, it's a really

681
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:40,200
good time. And like like I said, the best climbing

682
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,720
game I've played, just in terms of the mechanics of climbing.

683
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,799
Have some shortcomings, but like I you know, I can't

684
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:47,799
point to a game that does this stuff better than

685
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:49,759
this game. So that's pretty impressive thing to do in

686
00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:51,599
twenty twenty six. And I've played hundreds of games in

687
00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:54,359
my life, So shout outs to Cairn. Do you think

688
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,440
you'll check this one out? Considering that you are a

689
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,160
climber as.

690
00:27:57,039 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: Well, so I guess too of questions before before I

691
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,039
make that decision. One, do you remember what the cost

692
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:06,039
of it was? Because I actually haven't looked.

693
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,759
Speaker 1: Yet forty bones, so it's not extremely cheap.

694
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Yeah. And then the second piece of that

695
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,680
is is there really anything else to it? Like I

696
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,079
climb up to the top of the mountain, or like,

697
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:21,640
is there anything there? Like do I find a magical

698
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,000
summoning of a witch or something? Like? What is the

699
00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:29,079
Is there anything else besides climbing in this game?

700
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: Short answer probably no, Let's see what else is? I mean,

701
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,359
as you're climbing up, you're getting to different like trail

702
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,200
markers and like signs and things like that, so you

703
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,119
can like read about different stuff, and there's like lower

704
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:46,720
The story essentially of this game is that this mountain

705
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,799
that you're climbing is an inclimbable mountain. No one has

706
00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:52,720
ever summited this mountain, and as I've already found a

707
00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:55,920
couple bodies on this thing, climbers who fell and had

708
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,599
no one with them whatever it is. But yeah, I

709
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:02,000
don't know, like what's uh at the top at the

710
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,759
or other things like that. I mean I think you're

711
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:05,920
really there for the mechanics of climbing I have seen.

712
00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:08,240
I remember one of the trailers there's like ice picks,

713
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,799
so is at some point you're doing that kind of

714
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:12,079
climbing too. So I'm guessing the styles will switch up

715
00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:15,839
as you're going through it as well. But so I

716
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:17,640
guess there's like a little bit of variety here and there.

717
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,880
But I don't know. I think I'm maybe too early

718
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,720
on to answer that question fully. But truly like you're

719
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:27,319
playing this game to get a cool rock climbing stam

720
00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:29,640
So if that's not exactly what you want for forty bucks,

721
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,680
then yeah, probably just just wait at this point in time.

722
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I probably won't for forty dollars.

723
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:40,599
But I also feel like if you wanted to stream

724
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,400
it one day, I would sit and watch.

725
00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good idea, Like that's.

726
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:47,359
Speaker 2: My level of investment. Like I'm interested, but not forty

727
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,160
dollars interested.

728
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: I do feel like this is a game that I

729
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,480
want to show all my rock climber friends. I just

730
00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:53,079
want them to like sit down the couch and watch

731
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:56,240
for half an hour and just and you know, marvel

732
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:58,519
at how cool cool this game is and how well

733
00:29:58,559 --> 00:29:59,960
it achieves the thing that we love doing.

734
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,519
Speaker 2: Can you like have multiple save files?

735
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:05,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, I assume.

736
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:08,119
Speaker 2: So I would really like to see you in the

737
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,119
climbing gym and discuss the grading, like the V level

738
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,839
of like the starting routes.

739
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:16,279
Speaker 1: I was thinking about doing a video about that. There

740
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:18,039
is a guy that does videos like that, like he

741
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,279
graded all the problems in peak, like on that, on that,

742
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:25,119
that that one warm up woll which is a very

743
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:27,759
funny video. I forget his it's like Nicholas or Nikolay

744
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:29,880
or something like that, but anyway, he has a fun

745
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:35,119
He's making cool funny YouTube gaming, climbing video crossover stuff.

746
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:36,920
So I'm sure he'll make a video on Karen where

747
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,079
he discusses all the ones in that gym. So I'll

748
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,599
I'm not gonna, you know, encroach on his decree. I

749
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,799
guarantee you he's making that video. So I'll let him

750
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:47,440
do that and I'll send you the link when it's done. Yeah,

751
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,480
he's got a good style. But yeah, I I definitely

752
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:52,200
was thinking about that. Because they do they don't give

753
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,079
them a V rate and they just like called them

754
00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:56,440
one through nine or ten or however many there are

755
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,799
in there, Uh, but I don't think that correlates to

756
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,039
the v grading of it. Someone are pretty crazy though,

757
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:02,480
like some of them, like I don't, I don't know

758
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:04,519
if this is possible. This one's actually kind of nuts.

759
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,559
But within the mechanics of the game, it's possible.

760
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: Obviously within the one to ten you as a climber personally,

761
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,720
what level would you have completed?

762
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,119
Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's a really good question. Oh, it's interesting

763
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,759
so many of the like, there aren't really holds that

764
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:24,519
look like a jug in this game, because like you know,

765
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:26,920
whether it's just like a piece of rock sticking out

766
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,720
of the wall like a bulge versus like it actually

767
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:32,000
being a jug, like wouldn't really make any difference mechanically

768
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,559
for like this game in particular, So most of the

769
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,920
climbs in that gym were like essentially big pinches, And

770
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,240
that's that's my weakness for sure. So if they if

771
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:43,680
the if what looks like it should be a jug

772
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,480
actually was a jug in real life, I feel like

773
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:47,480
that would change one of some of the things I'd

774
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:48,799
be able to do. But lot it was a lot

775
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:51,920
of pinches, and that is definitely you'd get insanely good

776
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,720
at pinches if this is the climbing gene that you

777
00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:56,079
climbed at regularly. But there was a couple of slab

778
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:57,640
ones in there, and you know, I like some slab

779
00:31:57,799 --> 00:32:00,559
but one of the slabs like this, No, your mortal

780
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:03,920
could do this, This would be impossible. But then also,

781
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:06,400
like I said, you can't there there's no way to

782
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:08,359
at least as far as I can know, Like you

783
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:10,160
can run and jump over a gap like on the

784
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,279
ground when you're not climbing, but there is not a

785
00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:14,039
way to do like a dynamic jump, And so I

786
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:16,519
feel like that would make some of these problems actually

787
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,240
more doable. Just you can't do that as the character

788
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:21,039
in this game. You can't just like jump past holds,

789
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:23,920
but I could as a human being. So I think

790
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,000
maybe some of the harder ones I could choose them.

791
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:29,440
I could break the beta a little bit because I

792
00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:31,440
am capable of jumping because I'm a human.

793
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,039
Speaker 2: Are you longer than your character?

794
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: Oh?

795
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: This is really off, like off topic, but like I

796
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:41,799
just thinking about like the reaching. Yeah, the character my

797
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,480
reach or is the character your reach?

798
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,799
Speaker 1: I mean, the character is a woman who you know

799
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,599
just generally are shorter and have less wing spend than men,

800
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:52,039
So I don't know just by raw raw physics on that,

801
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:54,240
and then I probably I probably have a bit more reach.

802
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, so you're definitely like doing the but's roads

803
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,720
a little faster.

804
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: I mean, she's ridiculously though. She's a lot stronger than me.

805
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's She's got the like the pinches.

806
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,559
Speaker 1: Mastered so exactly. I mean, she can pinch on something

807
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:09,640
that doesn't even exist, you know, she can do crazy

808
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,880
crazy stuff. I mean one of the things in the

809
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,720
climbing gym is is a literally just like a chimney

810
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:18,000
where there are any holes to start, so you just

811
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:21,640
have to scramble up. I've never tried doing that like

812
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,319
in that same method, So I don't know how that

813
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:25,119
you know that. It's like a thing in like movies

814
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,880
when they're climbing up a chimney or something like that,

815
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:28,799
or an air duct or something, you're pushing your back

816
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:30,799
into the wall. You actually you do that in a

817
00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:33,279
game that you might be talking about in a bit here. Actually,

818
00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:36,039
so funny enough, we'll come back to climbing up chimneys

819
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:38,960
by pressing your back into a wall. But yeah, I

820
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,519
don't know. I I've never tried something like that, so

821
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:41,519
I don't know if I'd be able to do that

822
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:44,920
one in particular, but yeah, there was definitely like that one.

823
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,000
I was trying to do a particular mantle move that

824
00:33:48,079 --> 00:33:51,720
just was not seemingly like being possible with the physics

825
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:52,759
of the game. But I'm like, oh, if I was

826
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:54,559
a human being, I could I could do that move.

827
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:56,839
I could do that in a way that this character

828
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,599
this character could not. But I will say, like the

829
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,160
one of the other things I really like about too

830
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,680
is like if you have your hand somewhere, your hand

831
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:05,920
is locked, it'll stay there until you press that hand

832
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,119
button and like move it again to somewhere else. But

833
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:09,760
your feet, it like it does a good job of

834
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,000
like if you're pulling or like pressing up through a thing,

835
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,119
it doesn't just like you don't have to like let go.

836
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,519
We don't have to click a button to lego of

837
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:17,400
your foot, Like your foot will just naturally let go

838
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,119
as you're reaching up to climb for that next hole.

839
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,320
So it does a good job of like giving you

840
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,840
the control of your feet but not making you glued

841
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,760
to the wall with them and just making the game

842
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,920
like tedious because you know, there's a lot of games

843
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,360
like this that give you a ton of control over

844
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,760
your character, but they're like intentionally very janky and like

845
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,239
it's you can't master it, like Quop or like Baby

846
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,440
Steps that came out a couple months ago. This game

847
00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:38,599
is not that. It's not trying to be a rage

848
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,280
game with like janky controls that like is bothersome because

849
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,679
like in theory the way this is buttons are set up,

850
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,119
it should be like that game I Am Bread. Do

851
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:46,880
you remember that game where you literally play as a

852
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,719
piece of bread and like each you don't, but it's

853
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,079
a great game. It's a great game where each corner

854
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:56,360
of the slice of bread that you are is like

855
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,760
a button and then you can so to like move

856
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,840
you would like maybe grab on with the two triggers

857
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,840
on one side of the bread and like flip the

858
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,679
bread over, and then you lock on the other two

859
00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:07,119
sides flip the bread over. And it's like that game

860
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:10,599
never feels great to move around in. But like intentionally,

861
00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:12,239
so it's a game about you playing to a piece

862
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,920
of bread. It's supposed to be yanky as heck, right,

863
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,840
but this is this game is not trying to do

864
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,920
that kind of level of jank. It's trying to give

865
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,360
you control without being annoying about it. So I feel

866
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,880
like it's a pretty solid time. So there you go.

867
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,639
That's Karen. I mean, I'll get my money's worth out

868
00:35:26,639 --> 00:35:29,119
of because I'm a climber for sure. Results may vary

869
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,599
for you, the listener, depending on how into this kind

870
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:33,760
of stuff you are, But like I said, probably the

871
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,519
best climbing game I've ever played, and that's an impressive feat.

872
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:40,239
So shout outs to the team over there, making Karen

873
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,920
curious to see what they do next. I hope they

874
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,840
just keep making cool games like this and keep making

875
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,039
the mechanics inch by inch better between games and things

876
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:48,519
like that. I would love if there's a team just

877
00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:51,440
dedicated to making cool rock climbing games. That would be awesome.

878
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:59,599
Let's move over to shouting out our Patreon producers. Aaron

879
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:03,280
Braden Airple of Darkness, Jack Grant, spot My TGGLM six', Nine,

880
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,039
Hidalgo Lenny, Kravitz, Cocktail Clay john With No, Age Sam,

881
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:10,480
green And john. M jessica's getting her first look at

882
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,239
The patreon producers in a little bit. Here Lenny krafts

883
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,199
is in, there isn't that? Crazy and a horse, too

884
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:15,960
a horse Named.

885
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,519
Speaker 2: DALGO i would love to know the story of Why

886
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:22,239
clay is Now Cocktail. Clay, honestly like that's a.

887
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: That's kind of just been his. Name he just loves

888
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,079
that That Tom cruise, movie and so he's Just Cocktail.

889
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: Clay well shout out to.

890
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,039
Speaker 1: Have you Seen Tail?

891
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: Clay?

892
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: Cocktail have you seen that? Movie? COCKTAIL i have. Not

893
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,440
you should check it. OUT i. FORGET i THINK.

894
00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:39,519
Speaker 2: I feel like we do this a lot where we

895
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:41,239
are the same, people where we're, like, Yeah i'll add

896
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,440
it to the, list but the list doesn't exist and

897
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,159
we never watch.

898
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:46,199
Speaker 1: IT i do have a list, now AND i do

899
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,400
knock things off the, list but really, slowly LIKE i

900
00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:52,440
do like one every three. Months so it's LIKE i

901
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,639
JUST i don't watch movies a whole, lot and IF i,

902
00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:56,159
do it's just Like i'm going to the. Theater it's

903
00:36:56,159 --> 00:37:00,360
something for a review. Purpose but this did. Happen WHEN

904
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,480
i was at A. Francise we're, like what movie should we? Watch? Them, like,

905
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,000
AH i made a list and THEN i was starting

906
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,679
to read the. List BUT i literally read the first

907
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:07,960
movie in the, list and they're, like, OH i haven't seen.

908
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,480
That let's watch. That and SO i didn't read the whole,

909
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:10,840
list but it was just it was Fight. CLUB i

910
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,480
had never seen Fight. Club so we just watched Fight

911
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,559
club because that was the top of my.

912
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:17,079
Speaker 2: List but, OKAY i know this is can you just

913
00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:18,440
like quick like you liked?

914
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,559
Speaker 1: It? Yeah right? Movie yeah it's great of. Course, yeah, okay,

915
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:23,360
YEAH i need to watch it. AGAIN i need to

916
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,079
watch it a couple more times because it's one of those, movies,

917
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:27,440
right the more you catch more and more every time

918
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,280
you watch it. Again so but, yeah it holds up

919
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,199
to the, hype which was extremely high hype over the.

920
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: Years, yeah it's, uh we can't talk about it, though

921
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,960
because of the first. Rule.

922
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely the first rule though of listening to Gig first podcast,

923
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,519
though is that if you do want to support the,

924
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,119
show patrons the best place to. Do you get episodes

925
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:50,199
early ad. Free you get things exclusively such as bread and,

926
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:52,239
butter which were spam and speaking of, bread which we

927
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,480
were just talking, about a whole lot of bread with

928
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:56,280
a whole lot of butter on it happening this, year

929
00:37:57,119 --> 00:37:59,639
so definitely check that stuff. Out you also get all

930
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:02,159
sorts of voting powers such as voting on the content we,

931
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,360
make voting on The Golden geeks, polls which are up,

932
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,239
now so you can go vote on some of those

933
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,239
things if you want to have your say as to

934
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,840
what are the best movies and best actors and all

935
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,760
those kinds of things from twenty twenty. Five so it's

936
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,320
a good, time one of the best TIMES i would

937
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,599
wager to jump on the.

938
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: Paper there're still talks of a Possible patreon blood on

939
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,639
the clock. Tower is that still a.

940
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:24,679
Speaker 1: POSSIBILITY i think we're thinking about doing it as like

941
00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:26,559
an after nine like game, night because we do the

942
00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:28,719
game nights every once in a. While THAT i guess

943
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,599
we would need eight, people, right that would be where

944
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:34,639
we'd need nine me plus eight, players which you know

945
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:36,440
with the geek verst, alone that would be four. People

946
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,320
so if we can get a few patrons, IN i

947
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,599
think we could make it. Happen so we definitely it's

948
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:43,400
still on the, list so we'll make sure it. HAPPENS

949
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:45,800
i guess we would just need to confirm numbers beforehand

950
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,320
to make sure it. Works so maybe we'd have a

951
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,280
backup if there's not enough people for. It But i'll

952
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,880
let you know on. That because the definitely want you in.

953
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,599
There you. Can you can be the shepherd leading all

954
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:56,639
these people through because they've never played this game and

955
00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:57,920
you're now a master of.

956
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,559
Speaker 2: It that must be a new. ROLE i need to

957
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:02,599
look at the character sheet to find out what the shepherd.

958
00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:05,039
Speaker 1: Does that must be one of these. Customers there's so

959
00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:07,199
many custom. Characters we'll talk about lolocked out a little bit,

960
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,400
later but thank you everyone first putting the. Show you,

961
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,960
know also Joined discords a great place to. Be leave a,

962
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,639
review helps the show, grow leave a YouTube, comment do

963
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,000
whatever you, want tell a, friend all that good. Stuff

964
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,880
but let's jump to a quick ad break and we'll

965
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:26,800
be right. Back, okay we are. Back you know, What

966
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,599
let's go out of my order THAT i had here

967
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:32,360
because the leading of EVENTS i think works well. Here

968
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,360
so you've been PLAYING A Way, out which is for

969
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,320
anyone who forgets this is the game From Hayes light

970
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,599
before it takes, two and you know obviously is split.

971
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:44,440
Fiction it takes two before. THAT A Way out was

972
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,920
their game before, that which is about you and a

973
00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:51,000
buddy who are breaking out of prison together and then

974
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:53,840
you go on this journey. Together is this your first

975
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:54,519
time playing this?

976
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: Game it was my first time playing this, game AND

977
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,239
i went into it with no. INFORMATION i actually didn't

978
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,079
even know until just now that it was the same

979
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:06,039
studios It takes. Two so show how much RESEARCH i.

980
00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: Did well as a big fan Of It takes two

981
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,800
and split. Fiction how was it going back to their

982
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,480
kind of the first one of this trilogy of games

983
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:13,920
that they've been.

984
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: Making, YEAH i had a lot of fun with. It

985
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:20,159
so the reason THAT i downloaded it WHEN i was

986
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:23,119
looking at it was because they said that there was

987
00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:25,480
a lot of different like mini games and competitive things

988
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:27,320
that you could find within it to be able, to

989
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,239
like the storyline was ONLY x many, hours but you

990
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,000
could extend how, long you, Know the playability of the

991
00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:35,639
game went by being competitive with all these little side

992
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:38,920
pieces of. It so, yeah there's different things like you

993
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,000
can find connect for there's like a playing the piano

994
00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:46,400
and trying to like hit notes kind of like Like

995
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:52,719
Guitar hero. Style there's, darts there's shooting, basketballs there's balancing.

996
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:58,199
Wheelchairs there's like tons of these little mini. Games so for,

997
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,920
ME i really like that aspect of. IT i had

998
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,280
a lot of fun the like the story and the

999
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:10,519
different like elements wasn't necessarily like engaging might not be

1000
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:12,800
the right, word but it's not as like colorful as

1001
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,599
like it takes two for, sure because it is just

1002
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:21,039
based on this prison. Break but the person THAT i

1003
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:23,800
played with wasn't as competitive as, me so we would

1004
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,880
like play like one time someone would win or, lose

1005
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,960
and then they would walk away AND i was, like oh,

1006
00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:33,599
no LIKE i wanted to just like sit, there. UNTELL

1007
00:41:33,639 --> 00:41:36,519
i won. Everything, yes didn't end up working that, way

1008
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,639
but it was a really fun. Game it was a

1009
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:43,199
lot of different things that you could interact with different.

1010
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,400
People you could talk to and see how they would respond,

1011
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,519
back like it gave you the option, to, like you,

1012
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:52,159
know one way or the. Other and, honestly the ending

1013
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,559
of the game was super unexpected and there are three

1014
00:41:55,639 --> 00:42:00,679
different like endings that you can earn or win however

1015
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,639
you want to call. That so it was fun to

1016
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:04,639
be able to see kind of which one we were

1017
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:08,639
able to. Get BUT i, know, yeah as you were, saying,

1018
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,960
like there is kind of that working. Together one piece

1019
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,599
of it is you are back to back and you

1020
00:42:12,679 --> 00:42:18,239
have to time climbing up that chimney. Together, yeah so

1021
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,000
lots of kind of communication about making sure that you're

1022
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:24,719
working together in that, way and it is something else

1023
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,960
that's really cool about it is you are side by,

1024
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,119
side so you same as split, fiction and it takes

1025
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:31,159
Too you can see the other person's screen and what they're,

1026
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:35,360
seeing and depending on whose storyline is kind of more

1027
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,079
important at the, time it'll actually shift the size of each,

1028
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:40,559
screen so one person might end up getting like sixty six,

1029
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:42,559
percent so you kind of know to be able to

1030
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:45,400
focus on like what's happening on the other person's side

1031
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:52,159
or your. Side, yeah, HONESTLY i would play it again

1032
00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:54,599
just for kind of like IF i had never played,

1033
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:56,559
It i'd want to play it again just for kind

1034
00:42:56,559 --> 00:42:59,039
of the. Ending it really the ending was. Great it

1035
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,760
really was not, expected and that to me was probably

1036
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,480
like the cherry on top of this.

1037
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: Game i'd be down to play it again BECAUSE i

1038
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,920
would be down be competitive with those mini, games so

1039
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,280
we could pretty much have like A mario party session

1040
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,639
of just like playing all these different mini games at each.

1041
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:20,559
Speaker 2: OTHER i am so. Yeah for, me that's the fun

1042
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:23,079
of it is, like, oh you, know how many notes

1043
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:25,400
were you able to hit on that piano? Right or

1044
00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:29,880
the balancing the wheelchair was a good one. TOO i

1045
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,239
really had fun with. THAT i Lost connect, FOUR i

1046
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,559
think three. GAMES i think not good To connect.

1047
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: Four, apparently But i'm really bad At connect four as,

1048
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,639
well so maybe we could both get better at.

1049
00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:42,559
Speaker 2: It, yeah when did you play?

1050
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:45,119
Speaker 1: THIS i played it when it came. Out ACTUALLY i

1051
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:47,800
played it With, amber and you, KNOW i think we

1052
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,079
both were, LIKE i don't, know maybe it's gotten better,

1053
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:53,679
too BUT i remember it being really janky and buggy

1054
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,440
when we played it when it first came. Out so

1055
00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:57,320
did you feel like it was a jankie or buggy

1056
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,960
game when you played it? Now BECAUSE i feel like

1057
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,119
over the years maybe it's gotten like some good patches or.

1058
00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:02,719
SOMETHING i, mean.

1059
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't too. Bad like there's some level of jank to,

1060
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,400
it for, sure like someone's coming and you have to

1061
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,039
stop what you're doing to not get caught in the,

1062
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:15,400
prison and you're very obviously caught or not. Caught but

1063
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,440
it's kind of janky and how it. Decides BUT i

1064
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,639
didn't found that it super took away from.

1065
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:23,519
Speaker 1: It yeah that's. Good, YEAH i mean maybe they've cleaned

1066
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:25,840
up some of that stuff in. Passings it's been a

1067
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,440
long time since it came, Out but one MEMORY i

1068
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,599
have of like the extreme jank was at one, point

1069
00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:34,599
there's a very minor thing that's happening where one character

1070
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:36,840
is like push open a gate or, something and you

1071
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,159
like to slowly push the stick to like open the.

1072
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:41,760
Gate does this sound familiar to you or is this

1073
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,559
like such a small little detail do you even remember

1074
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:44,039
What i'm talking?

1075
00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: ABOUT i, Honestly i'm not. Sure i'm waiting to see

1076
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,960
if something else happens in this, story BECAUSE.

1077
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: I, mean remember that's that is all you're. Doing you're

1078
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,039
pushing this. Gate one person's pushing the. Gate maybe a

1079
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:58,840
person sneaks. Through BUT i remember that like if you

1080
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,039
just didn't let go of the, button your character would

1081
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:03,760
like keep pushing this gate and eventually the gate would

1082
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,039
start clipping through the fence and it would go in

1083
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:08,719
like a full hundred and three hundred and sixty degree,

1084
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,119
Angle like you could just endlessly push this gate and

1085
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,039
then you could like go backwards with. It and it

1086
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:15,960
was like very slowly, pushing and we were just clipping through,

1087
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,840
walls AND i just distinctly, remember Like amber's, laugh my

1088
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,599
our laughter, together just like, dying and how stupid this

1089
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:24,920
thing was and how little of a detail. Was but

1090
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,960
it was just killing. Us AND i feel like there

1091
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,480
was a couple of moments like that of just like

1092
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,079
really silly things happening that were clearly not like, intentional

1093
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:34,320
but made for a great. Experience SO i feel LIKE

1094
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,159
i came away with it not being like not thinking

1095
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:38,480
this was a great, game but it was a really

1096
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:40,559
fun time playing it together in the way that like

1097
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:43,480
these other games like co Op kied You horror. Cooking

1098
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:45,159
a lot of issues with that, game for, sure, right

1099
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,679
and you can point out a lot of them because

1100
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,239
the are like really, obvious, buggy glitchy, things but it's

1101
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,360
still a great. Time it's, like how do you how

1102
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,800
do you weigh? That, LIKE i guess, WHAT i have

1103
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,639
more or less fun playing this game than like another

1104
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:57,320
co op, Game, Right it's always tricky when you're playing

1105
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,199
a game with one of your best, friends you obviously

1106
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,719
just go like have a good, time even if the

1107
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,000
game's not. Great but since, THEN i mean that's prompted

1108
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:05,599
us to want to play it takes two and split

1109
00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:07,320
fiction and check out the rest of these. Games So

1110
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,559
i've always liked what they're, doing and it's just it's

1111
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:11,960
cool to have a dedicated co op studio at this,

1112
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,440
point who are making like really quality? Games so, yeah

1113
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,960
where is it in your in Your hazeley? Ranking give

1114
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,840
me out of the three games where what one's, best what's,

1115
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:21,800
middle what's? Bottom?

1116
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,599
Speaker 2: Uh Split fiction is definitely still number. One absolutely Love Split.

1117
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:29,800
FICTION i had so much fun playing. It i'd probably

1118
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,760
put this over it takes.

1119
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,639
Speaker 1: Two, OKAY i.

1120
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:37,639
Speaker 2: Had a lot of fun with, it AND i honestly

1121
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:39,440
it was just kind of the ending for, me LIKE

1122
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,639
i didn't expect. IT a lot of jokes have come

1123
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,880
from that. Ending, Okay i'm not gonna. LIE i have

1124
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,320
no idea when this came. Out AM i allowed to

1125
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:46,760
spoil the?

1126
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:47,119
Speaker 1: Ending?

1127
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: Like has it been long enough twenty?

1128
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,519
Speaker 1: SEVENTEEN i don't remember the, ending SO i would love

1129
00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:52,400
if you spoiled it for, me and it reminded. Me.

1130
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: Yeah so, basically, yeah you're working together to try and

1131
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,480
bust out of this prison and then at the end

1132
00:46:57,519 --> 00:46:59,880
it turns out that one of them is actually an undercover, cop,

1133
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:03,880
right and so, yeah so after spending all this time working,

1134
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,719
together it's now become a joke about you, know, like

1135
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,119
well you're a trader and that's kind of never gone

1136
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:12,239
away since we played this. Game the jokes about me

1137
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,599
being a trader have continued.

1138
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: On, yes got? It got? It so Does Well i'm

1139
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,880
curious where does? This what is like the different? Endings

1140
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,719
have you looked up what the different ending endings?

1141
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: Are, yeah so it's basically depends on who. Wins so,

1142
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:31,719
like If leo, wins he gets his own. Ending If vincent,

1143
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:32,840
Wins vincent gets an.

1144
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: ENDING i think he refused to.

1145
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 2: Fight like there's a big battle like, afterwards like basically

1146
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,800
you're trying to kill your co op. Partner you spent

1147
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,480
all this time working, together and then it's whoever kills

1148
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,000
the other person wins and then they get the they

1149
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:52,320
win the. Ending. Right so WHEN i played, it BECAUSE

1150
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,400
i ended up playing the character that was the, TRADER

1151
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:56,519
i like didn't fight. BACK i was, like you can

1152
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:58,880
just have to, win Like i'm, Sorry i've betrayed you

1153
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,760
and just like let them kill. Me and it's multiple.

1154
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,719
Scenes there's like three or four different sequences for you

1155
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,440
to try and. Win. Yeah so then but then the

1156
00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:11,119
hidden ending is if no one fights back and you

1157
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:13,079
it goes on long enough that no one dies that

1158
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:16,079
you get like an alternative, secret.

1159
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:18,159
Speaker 1: Right are kind of the three got?

1160
00:48:18,159 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: It but, yeah for, me that was like it was

1161
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,880
just such a surprise because we spend so much time

1162
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,519
thinking we're buddies and then all of a sudden it's

1163
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:30,360
like you son of a you. Know, yeah there was

1164
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:36,400
DEFINITELY i you, know not a ton of replayability besides,

1165
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,760
THAT i guess compared to like it takes, two BUT

1166
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,159
i don't remember liking kind of the story and the

1167
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:45,719
fun of it takes to the.

1168
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: Same, yeah BECAUSE i feel like from my memory a

1169
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,400
way out is it's because you know so many sections

1170
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,679
in split, fiction or it takes TOO i find their

1171
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,400
game names really hard to remember for some. Reason you,

1172
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,000
know there's a lot of sequences where it's like if

1173
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,079
your player one you do this, sequence player two you

1174
00:49:04,119 --> 00:49:06,159
are this sequence or this character of different move set and.

1175
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:08,000
Stuff a, way it's kind of different in, that, right

1176
00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:09,599
like you can like choose, like, OH i want to

1177
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:10,800
go do this, PART i want to go do this.

1178
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,440
Part AM i wrong or right about?

1179
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 2: That Uh so it's kind of. Different it kind of

1180
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,639
just depends, who LIKE i, guess picks things. Up like

1181
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,480
if they're like if one person picks up the, gun

1182
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:24,159
then they get to do this. Sequence if someone else

1183
00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:27,559
picks up you, know whatever other thing they're doing something,

1184
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:30,960
else you both kind of get free rome. Around so

1185
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:33,440
it say you have to speak to one person. Specifically

1186
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,760
if someone gets there, first then they're the one that

1187
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,480
interacts with.

1188
00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: Them, yeah got.

1189
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:42,559
Speaker 2: It so, yeah it's definitely AND i didn't find like

1190
00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:44,679
WHEN i Played it takes. Two WHEN i think about,

1191
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,119
it you, know there's a lot of times where you

1192
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:48,400
might like complete a jumping sequence and then if the

1193
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,000
other person can't complete, it like you're just sitting there

1194
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:54,320
waiting for. THEM i don't remember having those same moments

1195
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,320
in this game Where i'm like sitting there waiting for

1196
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,639
someone to be able to catch up or finish whatever

1197
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,159
task it, is which was. Nice both characters are paced very.

1198
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:06,679
Evenly it doesn't necessarily matter about skill.

1199
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: Level, yeah got, it that makes. Sense yeah, yeah uh,

1200
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,159
Way oh, yeah, cool cool. Game it's one THAT i

1201
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,960
kind of forget about BECAUSE i feel like it takes

1202
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,400
too still gets talked about a lot and split. Fiction

1203
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,480
obviously it's still pretty, fresh BUT i feel LIKE A

1204
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,840
Way out is like a forgotten when a lot of

1205
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,840
people didn't play that back in the. Day BUT i

1206
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,360
feel Like It Takes two is so. Big it was

1207
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,000
like A game of The, year winner of The Game,

1208
00:50:29,039 --> 00:50:31,559
awards which is, crazy and so many things like, That

1209
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:33,679
like everyone's kind of played it, Now AND i, think

1210
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,840
does like Split fiction have the or, sorry god damn these.

1211
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,679
Names does A Way out have the friend pass thing

1212
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,599
and the way these other ones? Do or did you

1213
00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:43,079
guys both have?

1214
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 2: IT i don't think it. DID i think, we okay

1215
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,480
both bought.

1216
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: It that SOUNDS i, mean it was.

1217
00:50:50,599 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: Cheap i'm pretty sure that makes.

1218
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: Sense it's pretty old at this, point BUT i feel

1219
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,559
like that's another reason why so many people have PLAYED

1220
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,679
A Way out and Split fiction is just fucking got

1221
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,639
my feel of. Play it takes. Two it's it's flip

1222
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:06,840
fiction that has a good. NAME i can remember THAT

1223
00:51:07,159 --> 00:51:08,880
A Way out it takes. TWO i don't know what

1224
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,239
it is about those two goddamn, names BUT i can't

1225
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,920
separate them in my. Mind but obviously the friend passed

1226
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,960
those makes them so much more. Accessible and they also

1227
00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:19,519
just sold like a huge, amount which is, impressive and

1228
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:21,360
considering that a lot of people who play it don't

1229
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,639
even need to buy, it so they just you don't

1230
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,599
have that many more players to. It but, yeah SO

1231
00:51:26,639 --> 00:51:28,159
i don't, know MAYBE i forget if they had that

1232
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:29,440
back in the day for a way.

1233
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,599
Speaker 2: Out, YEAH i don't think it does. NOW i think

1234
00:51:32,639 --> 00:51:34,559
we both had to buy, it BUT i think it was.

1235
00:51:34,639 --> 00:51:37,000
CHEAP i think it was only like twenty bucks or thirty.

1236
00:51:37,039 --> 00:51:40,000
Bucks and for the you, know one or two, nights

1237
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:41,920
three nights that it took us to get through, it

1238
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,599
it was it was worth. IT i had fun with.

1239
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:45,920
It and you, know, it's like you, said it's one

1240
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,760
of those games where you just kind of make jokes

1241
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,000
about it. Too. Yeah like we just joked about the

1242
00:51:50,119 --> 00:51:53,800
sexual tension between the two characters the entire, Time so you,

1243
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,079
know things like that just make it enjoyable despite the.

1244
00:51:57,199 --> 00:51:57,599
Drink m.

1245
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: Hm and it sounds like neither of you saw the

1246
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,599
ending to it. Coming, no that's, good so did?

1247
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 2: You you don't even remember the end Of you probably

1248
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:06,440
don't remember if you saw it coming or.

1249
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: NOT i don't. Remember IF i knew that it was.

1250
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,480
Coming i'd never do in any movie. Whatever i'm not

1251
00:52:11,559 --> 00:52:13,800
a plot twist. Detector that is not one of my.

1252
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,679
Speaker 2: Skills, WELL i shouldn't have spoiled. It we could have

1253
00:52:18,679 --> 00:52:20,239
played it again AND i could have made you the

1254
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:21,320
guy that betrays.

1255
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: Me, YEAH i wonder if it would have come back

1256
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,519
AS i was halfway, Through i'm, like, oh, YEAH i

1257
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:27,000
remember where this is, going just like the way deliver

1258
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:27,840
certain lines or.

1259
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,679
Speaker 2: Something but, YEAH i wonder if there's a way to

1260
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,880
just play the mini games that there. Is i'm down

1261
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,000
to mini game it up with. You.

1262
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:40,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, YEAH i forget WHERE i even played. IT i

1263
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:42,119
don't even know what console. Peak maybe it WAS, PC

1264
00:52:42,199 --> 00:52:44,199
i can't. REMEMBER i don't know WHERE i have. It

1265
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,880
but we'll take a. Look we'll take a look at.

1266
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,840
That we gotta Play peak. Though peaks higher priority for

1267
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,960
me over revisiting a way.

1268
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 2: Out i'm. Down, yeah we can get a couple of people,

1269
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,119
together all the, games all the.

1270
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:57,079
Speaker 1: Games, uh there you, go there's a way. Out just

1271
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,679
let me tell you a little bit about a game

1272
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:00,880
Called High, guard which you probably don't care much, about

1273
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,079
but you know, what you hear me, anyway because this

1274
00:53:03,199 --> 00:53:05,239
game is the talk of the, town it's good time

1275
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,440
to talk about. It so YOU i don't think you've

1276
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,400
heard of this, game, right you don't even know what it.

1277
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: Is, NO i think when we were talking before the,

1278
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,239
CAST i called it by the wrong, name even.

1279
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:20,519
Speaker 1: Called It Highlight. Islands that's better than a high life

1280
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:24,920
that sounds like a gym or, something or like a. Dispensary,

1281
00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:27,000
anyway the game is Called The High. Guard so this

1282
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:29,119
is a game that came out of, nowhere but it

1283
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:31,840
was at the announced that the game, awards uh kind

1284
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,800
of controversially so because it got the it got that

1285
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,440
final trailer, spot the big juicy spot you, know for

1286
00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:39,920
the game. Wards it's like whatever game trailer opens the

1287
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,760
show when everyone closes, it those are, Like Jeff, keeley you,

1288
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,079
know make sure those are like the, juiciest biggest trailers.

1289
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:48,840
Around and everyone was, like High, guard what is this

1290
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,000
from a new? Studio no one's heard of the. Studio

1291
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:54,960
it's like PREVIOUS i Think Apex legends. Developers but it looked,

1292
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,880
like you, know kind of like an overwatchy kind of,

1293
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,280
thing kind of like An Apex, legends which is like

1294
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,239
all sorts of. These AND i think people were particularly

1295
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,599
harsh on it Because concord came out last year or

1296
00:54:05,639 --> 00:54:07,480
a couple of years, ago whatever it, was which was

1297
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,639
a very similar looking, game and that game came out

1298
00:54:09,639 --> 00:54:13,440
and just completely bombed and was a huge, failure and

1299
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,159
Then PlayStation had to refund everyone for. It because they

1300
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:18,280
shut the game down in like two weeks and everyone's,

1301
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,480
like Here's concord two point, zero like that's What High guard.

1302
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:24,320
Is and then it and all this stuff spirit stuff

1303
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,559
has been coming out since, then of, like, oh like

1304
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,199
these developers didn't need like pay to have this as

1305
00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:31,039
the final, Slot Like Jeff keeley was, Like, OH i

1306
00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:32,480
just think this is, cool we should put it, there

1307
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:36,400
which everyone's, like sounds something fishy about. That and then even,

1308
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,320
then like you, know game, wards we cover. That we

1309
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,719
talked about all these things on the, podcast and even

1310
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,960
THOUGH i watched that showcase and talked about the, PODCAST

1311
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,440
i did not realize in all that conversation that they

1312
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,280
announced this game In december and it came out a week,

1313
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,280
ago like it came out In. January it's, like, wow

1314
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,280
that's a really quick turnaround from announcement to release. Date

1315
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,280
and SO i feel like that part of the marketing

1316
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,760
just totally passed over me that this game's coming out so.

1317
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,440
Soon i've played it because it's free to so you

1318
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,599
can jump in there for zero. Dollars of, course a you,

1319
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:06,440
login there's like a million micro transaction things you can

1320
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,280
do to get skins and, costumes and. Whatever but, yeah

1321
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,119
the game finally came out somewhat, CONTROVERSIAL i. GUESS i,

1322
00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:15,079
mean so much of it is weird because the game

1323
00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:18,679
came out within an, hour had like overwhelming the negative

1324
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,000
reviews On steam from like tons and tons of. People

1325
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:23,320
but it's like the game has been over an, Hour

1326
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,039
like how how are you reviewing a game that you

1327
00:55:27,159 --> 00:55:29,800
have barely even? Touched, LIKE i don't like that gives

1328
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,719
you enough time to play like one or two rounds

1329
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,920
of this. Thing SO i don't know who these people

1330
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,360
are that are going to leave A steam review on

1331
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,400
a thing that they've like barely touched at. All SO

1332
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,679
i feel like a lot of it is kind of

1333
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,840
people just dog piloting on this, game like wanting it

1334
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,400
to be bad and like trying to trying to will

1335
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,119
that into. Existence BUT i don't. Know there's also people

1336
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:47,519
who play a lot of these games in this, genre

1337
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:49,840
and so maybe they're better. Tells but for, Me i've

1338
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,239
played a few games And i've had a good time with.

1339
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,360
It i'm enjoying, it and, Yeah i'm, Like i'm definitely

1340
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,119
not the. Expert Like i've played Some, APEX i played

1341
00:55:56,119 --> 00:55:57,800
a Lot overwatch back in the, day but LIKE i

1342
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,480
didn't Play, CONCORD i don't play a lot of things

1343
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:02,239
in this, genre so it's a bit out of left

1344
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,800
field for. Me BUT i guess just to describe what

1345
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,079
the game actually, IS i was.

1346
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 2: Getting to, THAT i was, Like i'm, LIKE i need

1347
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,519
more information, HERE i got pictures Off. GOOGLE i need, More.

1348
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,519
Speaker 1: YES i. WAS i was just giving you the context

1349
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:18,039
of how we get to the release of this. Game

1350
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,079
but here we. Go it's It's High. Guard it is

1351
00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:26,039
a team based hero. SHOOTER i guess you could call.

1352
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:27,519
It that'd probably be a good way to go about.

1353
00:56:27,519 --> 00:56:30,119
It it's it's, interesting it's pulling from a lot of different,

1354
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:31,880
Things like at times it feels like a bit of

1355
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,760
A Battle, royale even though it's like a much smaller.

1356
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,119
Scale at times it feels almost a little bit like Of,

1357
00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:39,079
StarCraft because you're like smashing gems and like getting resources

1358
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:41,440
and like buying things at a. Shop you're kind of

1359
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,880
securing your. Base so the way it starts out is,

1360
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,360
you you and your. TEAM i think the default is,

1361
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,199
three so it's a three on three on like pretty big.

1362
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,440
Maps but then also there's a five y five mode

1363
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,679
that you can do as, well So i've played a

1364
00:56:51,679 --> 00:56:54,519
little bit of both of. Those you start, out you're

1365
00:56:54,519 --> 00:56:56,880
in like this giant, bubble which is your. Base it's

1366
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,119
like a you, know an energy shield like about around your,

1367
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:01,840
base and in the first like minute or, so everyone's

1368
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,920
kind of running. Around you can secure, walls so like

1369
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,360
all the walls around your base are like fully. Destructible

1370
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,079
you can just like shoot through, them bomb, them use

1371
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:11,480
abilities to destroy them kind of in like in a

1372
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:14,440
battlefieldy sort of. Way but, yeah the first part is

1373
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,079
you're kind of kind of deciding which places you want

1374
00:57:17,079 --> 00:57:18,920
to lock. Down maybe this, building because you know an

1375
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,639
enemy team if they get here, later that's kind of

1376
00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:23,079
where one of the main like you've got to plant

1377
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:25,000
bombs and enemy bases kind of. Things so it's, like,

1378
00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:27,599
Okay i'm want to secure this, building secure this. Passageway

1379
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,599
so you start. Out you do that for about a,

1380
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:32,679
minute maybe you're gathering, resources start building up a bit of,

1381
00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:36,360
currency and then eventually you can leave your bubble base

1382
00:57:36,639 --> 00:57:39,000
and you can go around the. Map you can go collect.

1383
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:41,199
Things as you're finding boxes in the, world so you

1384
00:57:41,199 --> 00:57:43,159
open those. Up maybe you'll find, weapons maybe you'll find,

1385
00:57:43,159 --> 00:57:45,639
ammo maybe you'll find a saddle maybe you'll find this

1386
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,519
or that or the other. Thing. Resources you're going Around,

1387
00:57:48,639 --> 00:57:52,239
StarCraft you smashing gyms to like get. Resources then you

1388
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,840
can go to shops you can buy. Stuff you do

1389
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,440
this for a few. Minutes at some point during that,

1390
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,800
sequence you might encounter enemies who are cruising around the

1391
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,760
map as, well and so you can fight. Them if you,

1392
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,760
die respond back at your, base and then you go

1393
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,920
back out in the world finding. Things one of the

1394
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,280
main things in this, section, though and what says this

1395
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,880
game apart from other games in the, genre is that

1396
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,760
you have mounts in this, game so you can just

1397
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,880
cruise around on like a horse OR i was using

1398
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,119
a bear Because i'm, like of COURSE i want to

1399
00:58:14,159 --> 00:58:16,440
use a. BEAR i think a panther is one of.

1400
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,079
Them different things like, That so you can kind of

1401
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:21,400
cruise around pretty. Quickly if your bear whatever gets gunned,

1402
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,000
down they're like knocked out for like ten, seconds and

1403
00:58:23,079 --> 00:58:25,280
you can like respawn them, Again so you can cruise

1404
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,199
around that pretty, quickly, Right and each one of these

1405
00:58:27,239 --> 00:58:29,639
has like different pros and cons to. Them and then,

1406
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:32,840
eventually after maybe three or four minutes or something like,

1407
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,119
that then this giant sword or not really a giant,

1408
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:37,840
sword but it's a special sword called like THE i

1409
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,639
think it's called like a shield breaker or something like

1410
00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:42,000
that is going to spawn. SOMEWHERE i think it's randomly

1411
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,719
somewhere on the, map and there's like kind of like

1412
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:46,079
a thirty second heads. Up it's almost like A halo power.

1413
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:48,559
Weapon it's like on in thirty, seconds the rocket launcher

1414
00:58:48,599 --> 00:58:50,559
is gonna spawn right. Here so then everyone starts to

1415
00:58:50,639 --> 00:58:53,559
kind of set up around this, thing get ready to grab,

1416
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:55,519
it and then it turns in almost like a capture of the.

1417
00:58:55,519 --> 00:58:57,719
Flag you want to keep the. Sword if you get gun,

1418
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,400
down you drop the sword and the enemy team can

1419
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:00,719
pick it, up or you could LIKE i think you

1420
00:59:00,719 --> 00:59:02,679
can maybe drop it and your teammate could go pick it.

1421
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,880
Up and then at that, point after you grab a,

1422
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,280
sword you're gonna go to the enemy, base and if

1423
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,039
you can get the sword to the enemy, base like

1424
00:59:09,039 --> 00:59:11,079
their big bubble shield thing THAT i was talking, about

1425
00:59:11,159 --> 00:59:13,239
if you can stab it into the wall, there then

1426
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,480
you'll start the siege on the enemy. Team and so

1427
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:18,360
that's kind of the main like early part of the

1428
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,760
game is like the, skirmishes someone gets the, sword you

1429
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,840
take it to the enemy base and then whenever team

1430
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,400
does that, first they'll be the first ones like on the.

1431
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,519
Attack so now you're you're gonna start penetrating that like

1432
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:30,360
bubble shield. Wall they're all gonna be back in the.

1433
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,440
Base they're gonna be fortifying, stuff getting ready for your.

1434
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,840
Onslaught and then you and your team are like smashing

1435
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,039
through the walls trying to get in. There and then

1436
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:39,519
you're trying to like plant, bombs destroy, walls destroy the

1437
00:59:39,559 --> 00:59:41,280
main base kind of in like in a mobile like

1438
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,400
A league of legendsy sort of. Way like it almost

1439
00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:45,840
it really is like blending a bunch of genres in

1440
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,199
an interesting. Way and then you, know if you're, successful

1441
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,039
the game will just end because you've destroyed the enemy.

1442
00:59:51,039 --> 00:59:54,119
Base good. Job but if the enemy is able to

1443
00:59:54,159 --> 00:59:56,639
hold you, off then eventually they can like fight. Back

1444
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,079
you'll kind of lose the, siege and then you'll kind

1445
00:59:59,079 --> 01:00:01,280
of reset to a neutral. Position maybe you took out

1446
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,800
some of their score overall of their base, health and

1447
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,880
then eventually the stort wal, respawn you can go back

1448
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,840
at it again and kind of the game goes back

1449
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,320
and forth in this sort of. WAY i don't know

1450
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,280
a game can probably it could probably be over in

1451
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,639
like ten, minutes BUT i feel like most of them

1452
01:00:13,719 --> 01:00:16,280
end up being like maybe twenty twenty five minutes something like,

1453
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,519
that IF i had to. Estimate but, yeah it's a really,

1454
01:00:19,559 --> 01:00:22,760
weird interesting mix of, things AND i quite like the

1455
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,639
gameplay loop of. It AND i, think you, know whether

1456
01:00:24,639 --> 01:00:27,360
you're defending your base or attacking the enemy, base both

1457
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,360
like very. Interesting you, know, obviously because in all the

1458
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,079
walls are, destructible you can like blast shortcuts or hidden

1459
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:35,239
passageways into certain buildings and also try and defend them interesting.

1460
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,800
Ways the enemy base usually they can like move more,

1461
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,719
freely like they can open, doors but you can open the,

1462
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:42,119
doors you have to like blow them down and. Stuff so,

1463
01:00:42,199 --> 01:00:45,320
yeah it's it's a really interesting amalgam of genres and

1464
01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:47,480
it plays pretty, well So I've i've had a good

1465
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:48,880
time with it in a few Games i've played so.

1466
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,559
Speaker 2: Far do you not find that a three v three is,

1467
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,480
like is a map small enough to make that? ENTERTAINING

1468
01:00:55,719 --> 01:00:56,639
i it's.

1469
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,239
Speaker 1: INTERESTING i feel like. That it was one of the

1470
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,239
CRITICISMS i saw the game in the first few, days people,

1471
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,719
like why is it three v? Three like these maps

1472
01:01:01,719 --> 01:01:04,400
are way too? Big and THEN i don't, know when

1473
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:06,360
but like even from the first TIME i played the game,

1474
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,760
too WHEN i played the literally the next, day they

1475
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,360
had added a five to five, Mode SO i don't

1476
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,559
know if their plan was like in a very kind

1477
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:16,320
of live service type of game sort of, style like,

1478
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,199
oh we're going to release new game modes every day

1479
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,280
or every week or whatever it, is or but also

1480
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,119
it had like the tag under like, experimental so it

1481
01:01:23,159 --> 01:01:24,920
almost seems like they were immediately, like, oh people are

1482
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,000
kind of pissed about the three v three, thing let's

1483
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,079
make it five y. Five but with the caveat, that,

1484
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:30,840
like you, know we haven't tested this that, much so

1485
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,719
it might be a little bit. Buggy both versions played

1486
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,639
about the, same you. Know with more, people it was

1487
01:01:36,639 --> 01:01:39,039
a more engaging. Game there's a lot more going, on

1488
01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:41,920
and obviously every character has like abilities and an ultimate.

1489
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,039
Attack obviously the more people, have the more variety of

1490
01:01:44,119 --> 01:01:46,239
abilities you're seeing in the match. Too AND i think

1491
01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:48,559
with the map, size five v five feels. Better BUT

1492
01:01:48,599 --> 01:01:50,719
i didn't think that it felt bad with three v.

1493
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,800
THREE i think we just had to be more strategic

1494
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,400
with our sticking together and things like. That so, YEAH i,

1495
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,280
MEAN i Think i've only played on some of the.

1496
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,599
Maps there's a few of, them SO i that would you,

1497
01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:02,800
know results may vary based on which map you're, On

1498
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,719
BUT i do think five y five is probably the

1499
01:02:04,719 --> 01:02:06,320
best way to go about. It it seems like a

1500
01:02:06,719 --> 01:02:08,440
more engaging way to play the.

1501
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,559
Speaker 2: Game and then kind of my other question on that

1502
01:02:11,679 --> 01:02:14,079
you were talking, about you, know getting these mounts and

1503
01:02:14,119 --> 01:02:18,159
these upgrades and things like, that is it like outside

1504
01:02:18,159 --> 01:02:21,320
of each match there's upgrades that carry into each, game

1505
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,360
or each game everyone starts at base level zero every.

1506
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: Game, Yeah i'm pretty sure you all start a base.

1507
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,199
LEVEL i think most of the things you could buy

1508
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:31,199
outside of the game would be like cosmetic. Things but

1509
01:02:31,239 --> 01:02:32,719
there also is like a you can go in your,

1510
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,599
character you can pick which character you, want and then

1511
01:02:34,599 --> 01:02:36,199
there's like a bunch of weapons you can choose. From

1512
01:02:36,239 --> 01:02:38,039
SO i think you can choose your starting load. Out

1513
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,400
but THEN i think the idea is that whatever you're

1514
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,159
starting load out is like whether you want this kind

1515
01:02:42,159 --> 01:02:44,400
of MORE smg type gun or assault rifle or like

1516
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,719
a sniper, rifle they'll always be like the gray like common.

1517
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,440
Type and then when you're in the game and you're

1518
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,960
getting the resources and you're finding, boxes that's when you're, like,

1519
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,880
oh Now i've upgraded to the blue stronger Tier purple.

1520
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,119
Tier you know you're you're leveling them. Up so, yeah

1521
01:02:58,159 --> 01:02:59,440
as far AS i can, tell you can never like

1522
01:02:59,519 --> 01:03:00,960
join a game and be, like, Oh i've already had

1523
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,719
like the purple tear and like max, armor like it

1524
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,280
seems like it kind of rebounces everyone for every. Game

1525
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,760
but there are still customization. Options and, then LIKE i,

1526
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,039
said a lot of the things THAT i think you're

1527
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,360
the metaprogression will probably be mostly cosmetic. Things maybe there's

1528
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,239
a characters you can, unlock And i'm sure if this

1529
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,320
game does well and sticks, around then obviously they'll be

1530
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,880
all sorts of new characters and things you can buy with.

1531
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,159
Money of, course not That i'm gonna check out any

1532
01:03:21,199 --> 01:03:23,000
of that, stuff But i'm sure they'll have a bunch

1533
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:25,559
of different reward. Systems and is.

1534
01:03:25,519 --> 01:03:29,039
Speaker 2: This strictly shooter? Orsus, like is there any type of

1535
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:30,840
powers or things like? That?

1536
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah mostly first person. Shooter there are, powers, like for,

1537
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,079
example one of the characters that play is like a hunter.

1538
01:03:37,239 --> 01:03:39,760
Type she's like birds and things like, that so you

1539
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,840
can like scout people, Out like my ultimate IS i

1540
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,679
literally control a bird for a bit and like shoot

1541
01:03:43,719 --> 01:03:46,880
down these little wind tunnel things that make like a

1542
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,199
big wind, ball and then like if an enemy touches,

1543
01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:51,760
that then they get alerted on our, Screen like my

1544
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,719
whole team will see exactly where they are in real,

1545
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,480
time SO i can kind of like scout them out

1546
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,199
if they're hiding behind rocks and things like, that which

1547
01:03:57,199 --> 01:03:58,800
has worked pretty, well AND i think it maybe does

1548
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,719
a little bit of. Damage i've only tried the one,

1549
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,559
character SO i don't even know like all the different

1550
01:04:02,559 --> 01:04:05,000
types of abilities you can. GET i think the characters

1551
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:08,880
designs are like, Fine like they're a little bit. Janky

1552
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,440
one of them is Called, kai so you might like that,

1553
01:04:10,519 --> 01:04:13,639
character but, YEAH i don't know they're THEY'RE i don't.

1554
01:04:13,679 --> 01:04:16,159
Know they don't seem like. Revolutionary and there's only eight of,

1555
01:04:16,159 --> 01:04:19,480
them WHICH i guess is fine for a game like,

1556
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:20,800
this but it does seem like kind of. LOW i

1557
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,760
feel like normally there's a lot more than, that even

1558
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:23,679
at like day one.

1559
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,239
Speaker 2: Launch, YEAH i, mean for if you're doing a five

1560
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,559
v five and there's only eight, characters, like there's not

1561
01:04:28,639 --> 01:04:30,920
gonna be a lot of variety within that.

1562
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,559
Speaker 1: Repeats on each team for. Sure, yeah, YEAH i, MEAN

1563
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:36,920
i don't. KNOW i assume some characters are more tanky

1564
01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:40,880
versus more like, slow uh you, know slower tanky versus

1565
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,119
like quick nimble that that kind of archetype. Stuff but

1566
01:04:43,639 --> 01:04:45,280
it seems to be pretty. Balance and LIKE i, said

1567
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,440
since someone has these mounts like no matter, what you

1568
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,360
can kind of cruise around that at pretty. QUICKLY i

1569
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,239
assume the horse moves quicker than the, bear but the

1570
01:04:51,239 --> 01:04:53,800
bear is just. TANKIER i don't really know, exactly like.

1571
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,679
Speaker 2: The different bear looks.

1572
01:04:57,039 --> 01:04:58,639
Speaker 1: Cooler BUT i don't think the bear has like an

1573
01:04:58,639 --> 01:05:00,519
attack or anything. LIKE i think it is mostly just

1574
01:05:01,159 --> 01:05:03,159
meant to be a mount that you're cruising around. On

1575
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,320
BUT i, think you, know especially these, Days, jessica now

1576
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,800
That i'm getting, like you, know my reflexes in first person,

1577
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,440
shooters Like i've noticed it get worse in like recent,

1578
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,320
Times Like i'm like much worse At call Of duty

1579
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,920
THAN i used to be Or. Halo i'm still, okay

1580
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,760
but like there are Oftentimes i'll just boot up a

1581
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,320
first person shooter that's like a game on Game pass or,

1582
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:23,679
something And i'll play it for a. Bit i'm, like,

1583
01:05:23,719 --> 01:05:25,360
MAN i suck at this. GAME i can't, AIM i

1584
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,719
can't hit. Anything but this game plays really, Well, like

1585
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:28,400
it feels really.

1586
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: Good the.

1587
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: CONTROLS i feel you're. GOOD i can aim really, well

1588
01:05:31,639 --> 01:05:33,559
and so it's making me feel young, again you. Know

1589
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:38,960
it's given me some it's giving me some. Confidence you,

1590
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,199
know LIKE i, SAID i just get trashed a lot these,

1591
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,559
days BUT i don't know this. Game this game plays,

1592
01:05:43,679 --> 01:05:44,960
well and you know it might be the thing, too

1593
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,039
where a lot of these, games like your first few,

1594
01:05:47,079 --> 01:05:49,079
games it makes you think you're playing against people where

1595
01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:51,280
you're actually playing against. Bots so anyone who's played this,

1596
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:52,960
game let me. Know Maybe i'm just playing against, bots

1597
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,440
and maybe that's Why i'm playing. Well BUT i feel

1598
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,039
like it ACTUALLY i can actually aim well and like

1599
01:05:56,079 --> 01:05:57,199
be strategic and stuff like.

1600
01:05:57,239 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: That so have you looked in the menu is there

1601
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,760
an am assist? Option and is it turned?

1602
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: ON i, mean any console game usually has no.

1603
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: Offense no. Offense i'm sure you're great just for other people.

1604
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,599
Speaker 1: LISTENING i, MEAN I i assume. It LIKE i feel

1605
01:06:11,639 --> 01:06:14,360
like every first brinon shooter on consoles has like some am, assist,

1606
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,960
Right it just depends how strong it, Is so there's

1607
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,360
probably a little bit amiss if this is not like

1608
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:19,400
an am bot or anything like.

1609
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 2: That, sorry is this you're playing ON?

1610
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: Pc i'm ON ps five for this.

1611
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,519
Speaker 2: One, okay YEAH i. CAN'T i can't snipe with a.

1612
01:06:27,559 --> 01:06:29,760
Mouse let's be. HONEST i can barely snipe with a.

1613
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,119
Speaker 1: Controller so, yeah, YEAH i haven't really sniped a whole,

1614
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:35,559
lot mostly using like an assault rifle type or like

1615
01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:38,880
a shotgun pistol that's switching it up depending on the.

1616
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,760
Game but uh, YEAH i like the game as aesthetic

1617
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,760
is good. Enough, LIKE i like the design of the.

1618
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,559
Levels they look pretty. Cool they it almost has like

1619
01:06:45,559 --> 01:06:48,480
A halo aesthetic to some of this stuff in. There

1620
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,760
and then whether you're not you like the characters that's

1621
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,000
up Up eye The beholder kind of. Thing but uh,

1622
01:06:53,559 --> 01:06:56,199
Yeah i'm enjoying this. Game i'll probably play a few

1623
01:06:56,199 --> 01:06:57,760
more matches of. IT i don't know how Much i'll stick.

1624
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,840
Around i've only played it solo so. FAR i haven't

1625
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:01,280
like cued up with any. FRIENDS i don't know if

1626
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,199
anyone wants to play this. Game it seems like everyone's,

1627
01:07:03,239 --> 01:07:05,519
like oh fuck High, guard this game. Sucks but you,

1628
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:07,440
know as somebod who's NOT x, men this genre by

1629
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,239
any Means i'm having a good time with. IT i

1630
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,639
think it's cool game with unique mechanics that plays pretty.

1631
01:07:11,679 --> 01:07:13,840
WELL i like having a bear. Mount you, KNOW i

1632
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,480
don't know how many. Games name a game that gives

1633
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,840
you a bear, Mount, Jessica.

1634
01:07:17,559 --> 01:07:19,199
Speaker 2: Probably world Of warcraft if we're being.

1635
01:07:19,239 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: Honest, okay name two games that have a bear.

1636
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:25,679
Speaker 2: Mount probably one of the versions Of. Diablo for being, Honest.

1637
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,519
Speaker 1: Okay name three GAMES i have a bear.

1638
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 2: Mount, Okay i'm out, Now.

1639
01:07:29,199 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah you got, Me well you got you got to

1640
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,159
name High. GUARD i, mean you, know that's that's the. Freebie,

1641
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,679
no that'd be a cheat. Answer, like it's. FUN i

1642
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,199
like having a bear. Mount it's cool as. Heck and

1643
01:07:37,199 --> 01:07:38,719
you can also have a panther on. Too that's pretty.

1644
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,400
Cool i'm sure the panther can like jump way up

1645
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:41,079
in the. Sky i'm not.

1646
01:07:41,079 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: Sure none of them can, attack not even the. Panther.

1647
01:07:45,159 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: There maybe there's a button for. IT I i really

1648
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,159
went through the tutorial. Quick i'm not gonna. LIE i

1649
01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:51,159
wanted to, play SO i think there was like advanced.

1650
01:07:51,159 --> 01:07:53,000
Training But i'm, like, No i'm gonna. Go i'm gonna

1651
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,039
go queue up and IF i let my team, DOWN

1652
01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:56,599
i let my team. Down, actually you know, what NOW

1653
01:07:56,639 --> 01:07:58,000
i think about, IT i THINK i was playing with

1654
01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:01,760
actual people because they were on their. Microphone so unless

1655
01:08:02,039 --> 01:08:04,320
this game does something where they like really try and

1656
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,639
trick you hard by playing making you play against, bots

1657
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,679
but then also fake people with fake voices like, talking

1658
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:11,920
then if that's not the, case THEN i THINK i

1659
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,920
actually was playing with, people even THOUGH i then you

1660
01:08:14,039 --> 01:08:15,519
died them in like ten seconds and LIKE i never

1661
01:08:15,559 --> 01:08:17,680
listen to them, again but they were trying to be

1662
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,399
AND i couldn't tellf my microphone is. ON i don't

1663
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:20,520
know if people are hearing me AS i have like

1664
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,800
a YouTube and on the side if there's hearing What i'm.

1665
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,000
Watching but, uh, yeah SO i THINK i THINK i

1666
01:08:26,039 --> 01:08:28,600
did win against actual human. Beings for what it's.

1667
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 2: Worth oh you know, What i'll give it to. YOU

1668
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,119
i think you were playing against real people.

1669
01:08:33,119 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: Too thank, you thank. YOU i appreciate. That, yeah so

1670
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,319
there you. Go There's High. GUARD i don't know if

1671
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:40,239
they'll have much more update on, that but like, again free.

1672
01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:42,039
Game check it, out play a couple of, matches put

1673
01:08:42,079 --> 01:08:43,800
an hour or two into. It see if you like.

1674
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,800
It vernone wants a que, up let me know i'd

1675
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,239
be down to play Some High. Guard it's it's cool.

1676
01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:50,119
GAME i like What i've What i've played so. Far

1677
01:08:51,319 --> 01:08:54,680
let's you know, what let's jump To, okay let's jump

1678
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,960
to your last. Game then we'll take our last break after.

1679
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,439
That but your last game on the list for today is,

1680
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,640
another so we're back to the co. Op, well because

1681
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,199
you're the queen of co. Op Lego, voyagers which is

1682
01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:06,960
a game THAT i very much thought looked really cool

1683
01:09:07,079 --> 01:09:08,479
and it was really excited check it, out and then

1684
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,720
just didn't get around to. It so tell me About Lego.

1685
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 2: VOYAGERS i honestly expected you to tell me about. It

1686
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,439
seems like every TIME i come in here with a,

1687
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,680
game you've like pre researched it and you tell me

1688
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,479
all this information about it THAT i didn't.

1689
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 1: Know, SO i, mean ALL i can tell you is

1690
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,239
That lego is doing a lot of weird things right.

1691
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:26,479
Now like they Had Lego party And Lego voyagers last,

1692
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,800
Year Lego party being like A Mario, Party like they

1693
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:33,800
had that like really high fidelity Like Builder Rube Goldberg

1694
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,680
machine looking game that looked really. Cool so they're doing

1695
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,640
more than just like The Lego Star Wars Lego Indiana

1696
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,119
jones type. Things they're switching it up and spreading THE

1697
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:44,119
ip love a little. Bit SO i like what they're

1698
01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:47,640
doing here And voyagers is certainly a unique deviation from

1699
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:48,159
what they've done.

1700
01:09:48,199 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: Before, yeah it's definitely very like low, risk you, know

1701
01:09:55,239 --> 01:09:56,920
just kind of a fun game to. Play there's you,

1702
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,840
know you, die you immediately. Respond there's no real like,

1703
01:10:03,039 --> 01:10:04,960
YEAH i don't know what the kind of correct wording for,

1704
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,319
it but, yeah risk to, it like there's no fog

1705
01:10:07,359 --> 01:10:09,239
climbing up the mountain like when you're Playing. Peak there's

1706
01:10:09,239 --> 01:10:12,439
no risk of your base dying when you're Playing i'm

1707
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,359
gonna call it High lands. AGAIN i, know we just

1708
01:10:14,399 --> 01:10:18,560
talked about. It it's already. Gone it's really just kind

1709
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,800
of you're running around trying to solve like little, puzzles

1710
01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:25,920
Moving lego bricks from one place to another to create.

1711
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,520
Bridges you, know you can hop onto your partner and

1712
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,600
like move together or like reach higher places because you

1713
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:39,319
can now stack. Yourselves, yeah so you, know there's like

1714
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,239
fun things to interact within the, world like Different Lego

1715
01:10:42,319 --> 01:10:44,640
they'll Be lego flowers and when you roll over top of,

1716
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,960
them they'll like pop And lego pieces will fly into the.

1717
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:53,680
Sky there is like a button to make like meeping

1718
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,159
noises so you can meep at each other in the.

1719
01:10:56,199 --> 01:10:57,119
Speaker 1: Game describe.

1720
01:10:57,119 --> 01:11:01,039
Speaker 2: IT i, HONESTLY i don't know THAT i can make

1721
01:11:01,319 --> 01:11:07,479
a lego meap. SOUND i. CANNOT i will. Not is it?

1722
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:12,000
Like do you want me to? Like i'll google it

1723
01:11:12,119 --> 01:11:13,159
or like YouTube? It and?

1724
01:11:13,319 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: Well WAS i WAS i hotter cold WHEN i made my?

1725
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:21,279
Speaker 2: Sound? Uh it's more kind of like cartoony singy.

1726
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,319
Speaker 1: Ish is that?

1727
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 2: Hotter, no that's definitely, colder, Colder, okay we're getting.

1728
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,079
Speaker 1: Closer, yeah oh so it's high.

1729
01:11:32,119 --> 01:11:38,079
Speaker 2: Pitched, yeah you're Definitely you're definitely closer with. That it's

1730
01:11:38,079 --> 01:11:40,279
more kind of sing, songy go a little more singy

1731
01:11:40,359 --> 01:11:46,239
like you there you. Go, yeah we're cooking.

1732
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,399
Speaker 1: Now that's a Mep, okay, okay good to.

1733
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 2: Know uh, so, yeah only.

1734
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: That got picked up by my mic or it's, like,

1735
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,399
no there's a bird, outside we're gonna echo canceled like

1736
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,000
that's not a really Human we'll see if the listener

1737
01:12:03,359 --> 01:12:04,600
got the same experience as you did.

1738
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 2: That i'm gonna go on. YouTube i'm gonna clip that,

1739
01:12:07,039 --> 01:12:09,439
sound And i'm gonna make it specific to when you message.

1740
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: Me oh that sounds like, torture but you know it's your,

1741
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:13,680
funeral go for.

1742
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: It it's actually just a ploy to get you to

1743
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,000
message me. More i'm.

1744
01:12:18,039 --> 01:12:21,039
Speaker 1: Lonely you were my number one message person On discord

1745
01:12:21,039 --> 01:12:22,760
when they gave you my discord. RAFT i don't know

1746
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:23,600
what what more do you?

1747
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 2: Want you don't Use discord very, much, then do?

1748
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,279
Speaker 1: You i'd be discording every. Day, actually it's ALL i.

1749
01:12:29,359 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 2: DO i guess we Got, Survivor, yes that's.

1750
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,199
Speaker 1: True And chain together co op, games.

1751
01:12:36,079 --> 01:12:41,199
Speaker 2: Yeah chain? Together, okay uh so. Yeah so, Anyway lego

1752
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,399
is it's really. Cute you can hop on your you,

1753
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,000
know the person you're playing, with your, partner you can

1754
01:12:46,079 --> 01:12:47,960
like roll off the edge and kill them for. Fun

1755
01:12:49,039 --> 01:12:51,760
but because it's so low, impact like you just immediately

1756
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:57,159
respond like there's no, harm no. Foul the like puzzles

1757
01:12:57,399 --> 01:13:00,600
are fairly, simple so it's just kind of. More it's.

1758
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,399
Fun it's just got like really cute, sounds really cute.

1759
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,359
Visuals everything's made out Of, lego so it's fun to

1760
01:13:06,359 --> 01:13:09,399
see all these like little builds in the. Background it's

1761
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,359
fun to try and interact with. Things listening to the

1762
01:13:13,359 --> 01:13:17,640
different sounds your characters make you, know there's Little lego

1763
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:22,000
birds that like sit on things and watch you, work you,

1764
01:13:22,039 --> 01:13:27,319
know little animals like. That like there's was like like

1765
01:13:27,359 --> 01:13:29,840
earwigs or, cockroaches which was just like one of the

1766
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,159
like square bricks with like the the hooks on the

1767
01:13:32,199 --> 01:13:35,039
side is run at you kind of run around like

1768
01:13:35,319 --> 01:13:40,239
it's Just it's really just a cute. Game and, HONESTLY

1769
01:13:40,279 --> 01:13:42,880
i love. IT i love how adorable it. IS i

1770
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,119
just love the visuals in. It But i'm also a

1771
01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:49,880
Huge lego. Nerd that one actually also was friends, past

1772
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,399
so one person bought it AND i was just able to.

1773
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,720
Join there was a couple times where it was janky

1774
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:57,800
and kicked me out for no.

1775
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,279
Speaker 1: Reason so that was kind of when that.

1776
01:14:00,319 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 2: Happened one time we lost a little bit of. PROGRESS

1777
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,920
i think the other two times we, didn't okay or

1778
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,800
so the one time we loaded back in and there

1779
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,399
was no progress, lost and then the third time it,

1780
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:16,600
HAPPENED i think is when we. Stopped so BUT i

1781
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,520
mean FOR i don't, KNOW i think it was like

1782
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,840
fifty bucks maybe for that one.

1783
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: IF i remember correct have beaten.

1784
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 2: It, yep we have. NOT i think we're gonna keep

1785
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,119
playing it, tomorrow so make some more progress on. It

1786
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:33,000
but we, INVESTED i don't, know three or four hours into,

1787
01:14:33,039 --> 01:14:36,840
it and my lego piece is still, small but the

1788
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,600
other person's lego piece is. Bigger SO i believe that

1789
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,840
we still have a fair amount of time to spend

1790
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,960
within the game BECAUSE, i in theory think my lego

1791
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,920
piece needs to finish being, small get, bigger and then

1792
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,319
there'll be some kind of storyline with the two bigger.

1793
01:14:50,319 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 1: Pieces, OH i see.

1794
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 2: Interesting, yeah, yeah so it is kind of cool and

1795
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,119
like there's now that we're in this new dynamic where

1796
01:14:58,279 --> 01:15:00,760
they are big AND i am. Small there's only things

1797
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,079
that they can interact with because they're the bigger, piece

1798
01:15:03,319 --> 01:15:09,039
and things THAT i can no longer. Do so, yeah

1799
01:15:09,119 --> 01:15:12,600
and we've played in kind of the first part was

1800
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,880
in like a certain type of like kind of lush,

1801
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,399
world like there was, greenery there was, plants there was.

1802
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,159
Birds and then now we've gone to the second world

1803
01:15:21,239 --> 01:15:23,760
where they are big And i'm small and it's more desert,

1804
01:15:24,199 --> 01:15:28,000
like so it's you, know kind of a different change

1805
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,439
of kind of pace and. Scenery we've got now new

1806
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,640
puzzles that go with this new, world so it's been

1807
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,960
fun to like have at least a little bit of

1808
01:15:38,079 --> 01:15:40,760
change in how the game looks and interacts and. FEELS

1809
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,760
i think it's just really a fun game to be

1810
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,159
able to just put on and play for an hour

1811
01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:49,960
and be able to turn it off and not worry about, like,

1812
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,399
OH i need to be able to remember What i'm doing,

1813
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,119
next or you, know things like. That it's really. Relaxing

1814
01:15:56,159 --> 01:15:59,239
the soundtrack is super, adorable to really great music in the.

1815
01:15:59,239 --> 01:16:03,000
Background so and if you, Remember i'm not a big

1816
01:16:03,079 --> 01:16:06,159
music person when we ever did reviews on, Anything so

1817
01:16:06,199 --> 01:16:09,399
the fact THAT i noticed that that's. Good, yeah but,

1818
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,560
yeah definitely recommend checking it. Out and if you have you,

1819
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,520
know friends, pass why, not, right.

1820
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,359
Speaker 1: Mm, hmm is THE i Guess my one main question

1821
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,800
is like the, Build like when you're building stuff in

1822
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,640
the Classic lego, way is there ever freedom LIKE i

1823
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,560
can build this in a different way to like solve

1824
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,199
a problem in a creative way or is it like

1825
01:16:27,279 --> 01:16:29,319
it's pretty, linear like you have to build this bridge

1826
01:16:29,359 --> 01:16:31,279
in this one specific way to like get across the

1827
01:16:31,319 --> 01:16:32,520
bridge and then you move on to the next.

1828
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 2: Thing the building is kind of, Janky i'll be. Honest

1829
01:16:37,039 --> 01:16:39,359
it's so you, can like you can pick up a

1830
01:16:39,399 --> 01:16:42,720
piece and then you like go over to where, say

1831
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,479
this is like the plate that you start, on and

1832
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,479
you like set the brick down and then you can

1833
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,439
like move, it turn it and move it, okay and

1834
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:50,079
then click it.

1835
01:16:50,079 --> 01:16:54,239
Speaker 1: In so there actually is some freedom in how you're.

1836
01:16:54,239 --> 01:16:56,920
Building it's not like the lego Like Star wars games or,

1837
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,680
whatever you just hit the button and like they build the.

1838
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 2: Thing, no, no, no you do actually, build and there

1839
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,119
IS i guess, yeah to some degree there's, freedom but

1840
01:17:05,239 --> 01:17:07,079
like you have like your base, plate like this is

1841
01:17:07,119 --> 01:17:09,800
where you have to start. Building like the entire world

1842
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:14,880
isn't fully, customizable but there was like one puzzle we

1843
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,600
had to create a like a. Catapult so we had

1844
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,560
to go and like find all these pieces and bring

1845
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,359
them all, back and then it was up to us

1846
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,319
how we created this. Catapult like there was very obviously

1847
01:17:26,399 --> 01:17:29,600
like a scoop which had the lego piece that you

1848
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,359
connected onto the catapult that you would sit. In but

1849
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,319
other than, that however you created that catapult to get

1850
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,720
the scoop on the end of it was completely up to.

1851
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,279
Speaker 1: You and because you've played Co, Op Kaiju Horror cook

1852
01:17:40,319 --> 01:17:42,119
and you're, like, OKAY i know how a catapult, works

1853
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:42,920
SO i know how to do.

1854
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 2: This that was exactly, It AND i knew that as

1855
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,399
the small lego, piece that the kaiju would be satisfied

1856
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,720
with just my sized lego being shot over Because i'm

1857
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:57,920
small and that's. Acceptable, yes you know it all comes back. Around, yeah.

1858
01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:04,520
Speaker 1: Nice, yeah is it like the hardest? Puzzle how long

1859
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,800
did it take you to? Solve was it like two

1860
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:07,640
minutes or is it?

1861
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 2: Like, yeah it's all really, Quick LIKE i don't really

1862
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,399
think there was anything that took too too. Long it's

1863
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:22,880
mostly because the game is fairly linear to like you

1864
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,880
kind of, know you're, like, Oh i'm missing a. PIECE

1865
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,439
i can't move. Forward obviously the PIECE i need is

1866
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:32,880
within you, know the last minute of, play you. Know

1867
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:38,439
or oh there was one piece like a new mechanic

1868
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,520
was introduced where you had to like hit a switch

1869
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,640
and flip something and we didn't realize if you stood

1870
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,880
on it would throw. You so that one maybe took

1871
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,399
us two, minutes but like while we farted around trying

1872
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,720
to figure that, out like got an achievement for doing something,

1873
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,520
else so, right like it's, yeah it's not. Hard it's

1874
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,880
definitely a just chill and relax type.

1875
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: Game and then, yeah my last question, is so you

1876
01:19:04,039 --> 01:19:06,520
said at some point your friends lego piece like grew

1877
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,640
inside and now like the bigger one and. Stuff was

1878
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,199
that like player one that will always happen to it

1879
01:19:11,279 --> 01:19:13,039
or was it because like choices you guys, made Like,

1880
01:19:13,039 --> 01:19:14,600
Oh i'm gonna be the one to like go into

1881
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,600
this machine that makes my piece bigger or.

1882
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:21,399
Speaker 2: Whatever, YEAH i think it's dependent On so, basically there's

1883
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,800
like a sequence that happens where one person goes inside

1884
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,760
something and one person stays. Outside and then when we

1885
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,159
landed in the, desert the piece that was inside the

1886
01:19:31,199 --> 01:19:34,119
machine was, Bigger SO i, think, YEAH i think HAD

1887
01:19:34,159 --> 01:19:36,439
i gone inside of, IT i would have been the bigger. Piece,

1888
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,880
yeah BUT i have no way to confirm.

1889
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 1: That that's, Cool, yeah a little bit of, choice freedom

1890
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:42,439
and all that kind of fun.

1891
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 2: Stuff so UNFORTUNATELY i did not buy that. ONE i

1892
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,680
was rocking The Friends, pass SO i cannot offer to

1893
01:19:51,319 --> 01:19:54,920
show you the. Ropes but you're with me in spirit

1894
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:55,239
WHEN i.

1895
01:19:55,279 --> 01:19:58,239
Speaker 1: Play, yeah think about. Me whenever you hear the whip.

1896
01:19:58,319 --> 01:20:01,399
Sound now you can. Picture i'll make a mod for

1897
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,359
you that will replace the in game meeps with my

1898
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:04,760
meats and then you CAN.

1899
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,119
Speaker 2: I would love. THAT i would appreciate that you need

1900
01:20:07,159 --> 01:20:09,359
to do two different meats, though because, like that's my.

1901
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,159
Meat what's the meat for the other color? Piece?

1902
01:20:11,279 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah it's one like lower or. Something maybe it's.

1903
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 2: MORE i was just going to give you the Bigger lego.

1904
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: Piece does your voice change more like? That a little more.

1905
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 2: Basically of the voice change when it was. Bigger, ACTUALLY

1906
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,520
i wasn't the bigger. PIECE i didn't get to spam

1907
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:25,960
the meat.

1908
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: Button are you not hearing your friend's? Meep just, ME i.

1909
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,560
Speaker 2: Am hearing the friends. MEET i Just I'm i'm. SORRY

1910
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:33,640
i wasn't more meap.

1911
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,359
Speaker 1: Aware you're focusing on your own. Memes, YEAH i was

1912
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,680
so selfish when it comes to. Meeting i'm.

1913
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:44,079
Speaker 2: Sorry i'm a bad. Friend, hey not to.

1914
01:20:44,119 --> 01:20:46,119
Speaker 1: Me you're a bad friend to your other. Friend that's.

1915
01:20:46,159 --> 01:20:48,479
FINE i don't. Care as long as your good. Friend

1916
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:49,600
that's all that matters to.

1917
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 2: Me it's like the same level of. Selfish this is

1918
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:53,880
why we're.

1919
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,520
Speaker 1: Friends, yeah this is why we're friends because we're bad.

1920
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:01,720
Friends And i'm just. Kidding that's, great, Okay Lego Lego.

1921
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,279
Voyagers i'm excited to hear how that one wraps up for.

1922
01:21:05,359 --> 01:21:07,640
You if it, sticks it sticks the landing in the.

1923
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,920
End i've heard like mixed things on that, game BUT

1924
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:11,600
i still think it looks very cute and would like

1925
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:12,960
to play it at some point in the.

1926
01:21:13,039 --> 01:21:17,119
Speaker 2: FUTURE i, mean there Are lego pieces in. Theory they

1927
01:21:17,119 --> 01:21:22,439
should stick. Together that's ALL i got On. Lego.

1928
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 1: Nice speaking of sticking, Together we're going to stick some

1929
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,880
ads to this part of the podcast and we will

1930
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:35,199
be right. Back, okay we are. BACK i don't really

1931
01:21:35,239 --> 01:21:36,600
know what we're going to talk about, here BUT i

1932
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,359
just you, know Clock Tower blood on the Clock tower

1933
01:21:39,399 --> 01:21:42,000
has been my obsession in the last half a. YEAR

1934
01:21:42,039 --> 01:21:44,880
i would say to put. It to put it, LIGHTLY

1935
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:48,079
i will say this section of the podcast might be

1936
01:21:48,119 --> 01:21:49,920
extremely in the. Weeds so that's WHY i left it

1937
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,520
to the. End because if anyone hasn't Played blow in

1938
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,399
the Clock tower doesn't know about this, game this, CONVERSATION

1939
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,039
i don't, know it might just sound like. Words you,

1940
01:21:57,079 --> 01:22:00,920
know it won't be, sentences just, words so you, know,

1941
01:22:01,079 --> 01:22:04,279
beware feel free to join us next week if this

1942
01:22:04,359 --> 01:22:06,279
is two in the weeds for. You but, yeah we

1943
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,039
talked about the blood and o'clock to our last time

1944
01:22:08,079 --> 01:22:10,319
you were on the. Pod it is a, again a

1945
01:22:10,359 --> 01:22:14,239
social deduction. Game you, know Think, MAFIA i Think, werewolf

1946
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,560
but with just a ton of more, mechanics tom more

1947
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,640
rules somewhere variety to it and or like avalon games

1948
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,399
like that social deduction. Game good, team bad, team good

1949
01:22:23,399 --> 01:22:25,199
teams to take up the bad, guys bad guys to

1950
01:22:25,199 --> 01:22:27,479
survive at the, end that kind of, thing, right pretty.

1951
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,880
Simple but, yeah we've actually been playing a lot more

1952
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,600
consistently in the LAST i guess a couple. Months maybe

1953
01:22:34,119 --> 01:22:37,319
our flock has has. Grown we've acquired more people who

1954
01:22:37,399 --> 01:22:40,439
are in our group. Here i've been joining some other,

1955
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,439
groups like locally In, vancouver and some of those people

1956
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,000
have been joined in our. Groups now our flock is.

1957
01:22:45,039 --> 01:22:46,880
Great and now it's Like monday AND i, posted hey

1958
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,880
wants to play this? Weekend we already got like ten sign,

1959
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:50,359
ups which is crazy though it happened that.

1960
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 2: Quickly, yeah you used to have to post and like

1961
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:54,159
tag people multiple.

1962
01:22:54,199 --> 01:22:56,039
Speaker 1: Times it used to be stressful BECAUSE i used to be, like,

1963
01:22:56,079 --> 01:22:57,600
Oh i'd LIKE i want to plan this, thing BUT

1964
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,720
i don't want people to like prepare for this, thing

1965
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:01,720
and then it doesn't, happen and then like there's some

1966
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,840
people who aren't on discords are to like coordinate with these,

1967
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,159
things and like it'd be Like friday and like, A

1968
01:23:06,319 --> 01:23:07,520
i don't know if this is gonna happen, yet AND

1969
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:08,960
i have to tell people's not gonna. Happen and it

1970
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:10,560
was like it was getting to a point where it's

1971
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,560
like actually causing me, anxiety and LIKE i don't WANT

1972
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,600
i don't. WANT i want this to be simple and.

1973
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,920
Fun and thankfully now we have enough people that boom

1974
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,600
and like one day we've got like a game set

1975
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,520
up For, saturday so that's very. Exciting but, yeah how

1976
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,920
is your Clock tower journey? Been it sounds like you

1977
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,199
still love this game as much as when we first

1978
01:23:28,239 --> 01:23:28,760
started playing.

1979
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 2: It i'm not gonna lie every single time that the

1980
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,159
game is like about to, Start Like i'm logging, In

1981
01:23:35,319 --> 01:23:38,840
i'm getting set. UP i have existential crisis That i'm

1982
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,399
gonna be vamp AND i hate.

1983
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,319
Speaker 1: It, yeah you you you need to get over your evil,

1984
01:23:43,359 --> 01:23:45,359
anxiety for. SURE i mean that's a big part of,

1985
01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:48,359
it right is uh is being able to hold it

1986
01:23:48,399 --> 01:23:50,439
down when you're on the evil. TEAM i feel bad

1987
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,079
that the one time you were evil last, weekend it

1988
01:23:52,119 --> 01:23:55,039
was a fucking goofball of a game because we just

1989
01:23:55,119 --> 01:23:57,159
killed The demon on the first, day so he didn't

1990
01:23:57,159 --> 01:23:58,600
even get to do, it which is maybe a good

1991
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,720
thing for you because you got, LIKE i wasn't even the.

1992
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,680
Demon it's not my, fault AND i can just brush

1993
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:03,600
this off and be a good.

1994
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,319
Speaker 2: Guy next game that was such a snipe, though like

1995
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,479
out of, nowhere you just, yeah killed the infra, shy

1996
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,399
AND i was, LIKE i have no way to even

1997
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,760
try and like point this at another person Because i've

1998
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,319
talked to one, Person so how AM i supposed to be, like, oh, well,

1999
01:24:16,359 --> 01:24:17,199
no don't vote for that.

2000
01:24:17,239 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: GUY i vote for the like it WAS i it.

2001
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,319
Was it was a shot in the dark because the

2002
01:24:21,319 --> 01:24:22,760
only PERSON, i you, KNOW i was the over that.

2003
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,960
Game i'd Picked, matt SO i was CONFIDENT i was

2004
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,279
On matt's, team AND i was, Like i'll just pick

2005
01:24:27,279 --> 01:24:31,039
someone who's not mad as The, Demon so you, KNOW

2006
01:24:31,119 --> 01:24:33,159
i PROVED I i don't know IF i made a

2007
01:24:33,159 --> 01:24:35,239
good or bad point to BECAUSE i always tell you,

2008
01:24:35,279 --> 01:24:37,279
guys it's good to execute every day you always want to.

2009
01:24:37,279 --> 01:24:40,079
Execute but you, know we did that, game we, won

2010
01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:42,520
but it's, like, well it wasn't really like a good, Match,

2011
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,119
like you, know we got the win as the good,

2012
01:24:44,119 --> 01:24:45,920
guys but LIKE i don't know If i'm like super

2013
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,039
hyped about that. Win, necessarily it feels better when you

2014
01:24:48,079 --> 01:24:51,079
get the win at the final, three, RIGHT i.

2015
01:24:51,159 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 2: Try and snipe, people but it's everyone's so, uh like

2016
01:24:55,119 --> 01:24:57,000
they don't want to do. It everyone's so against.

2017
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: It, WELL i mean The demon why the part of

2018
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:00,399
the you, know part of the game built into the, game,

2019
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,079
right it's like The demon having, bluffs so they have

2020
01:25:02,199 --> 01:25:04,239
like they have a way. Out they have spein Of

2021
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,039
Hayes light's a way. Out they have a way. Out

2022
01:25:06,039 --> 01:25:07,840
every game like they in some way that they can

2023
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,960
weasel between those three bluffs to like make Sure town

2024
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,560
doesn't kill, them or have the minions jump in and

2025
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:14,920
like really save the. Day but you want to be.

2026
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:16,680
Tricky you don't want to make it too. Obvious so

2027
01:25:17,079 --> 01:25:19,079
it is. Tricky but you, know it's it's low chance

2028
01:25:19,079 --> 01:25:20,520
that you're gonna have a game like that that just

2029
01:25:21,039 --> 01:25:23,119
pops like. That but you always just rewrack and run it,

2030
01:25:23,119 --> 01:25:23,680
again so it's.

2031
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 2: Fine, well and it's so hard to separate from one

2032
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,960
game to the next because, honestly Like coltman And matt

2033
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,920
are suss as, Fuck like that's WHY i excuse the.

2034
01:25:34,039 --> 01:25:37,840
Language like every, Game i'm, like it's one of. THEM

2035
01:25:38,079 --> 01:25:38,840
i don't trust.

2036
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: Them, OH i love having people who are just default

2037
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,439
sus like it's fun to have the people to. Mix

2038
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,880
but that's WHY i picked WHEN i was the. Ogre

2039
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,399
so if anyone doesn't know, that the ogre is the

2040
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:52,079
character you pick one person and you're on that person's,

2041
01:25:52,079 --> 01:25:53,960
team whether they're good or. Bad so you're you start

2042
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,560
as a good guy by, default but you might just

2043
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,399
become evil. Immediately and like me And matt were always

2044
01:25:58,399 --> 01:26:00,560
fighting it, out we're always at each other's now he's

2045
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,399
always coming after. Me So i'm, Like i'm gonna Pick matt.

2046
01:26:02,399 --> 01:26:04,720
Here this is probably best for my you, know life.

2047
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,439
Expectancy IF i Pick matt, Here i'll probably survive longer

2048
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,119
THAN i normally. Would And i'm going to tell him

2049
01:26:09,159 --> 01:26:11,720
immediately and so we can finally not be enemies this.

2050
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,359
Game and he's not gonna come after me unless he

2051
01:26:13,359 --> 01:26:17,159
doesn't believe. Me and, SO i don't, know it's nice

2052
01:26:17,159 --> 01:26:19,359
when you're that one specific character because you can be,

2053
01:26:19,399 --> 01:26:20,840
like you know, what no matter, What i'm on your

2054
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,920
team and you can't be poison or drunk here LIKE

2055
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,000
i just guarantee him on your. Team. Again they have

2056
01:26:25,039 --> 01:26:27,960
to believe you that you're actually that. Character but that

2057
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:29,920
was good for. ME i like to be able to

2058
01:26:30,079 --> 01:26:31,920
take the one chaos person and work with. Them And

2059
01:26:32,319 --> 01:26:34,920
i'll you mentioned that. Too colton is always on your,

2060
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,720
radar you, know because he AND i always the. Storytellers.

2061
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,279
Like he AND i haven't played a game together, yet

2062
01:26:39,279 --> 01:26:40,680
So i'm looking forward to the day where he AND

2063
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,319
i actually get to play with each. Other it's funny

2064
01:26:43,319 --> 01:26:46,279
that we keep switching out for the moderator, role but

2065
01:26:46,399 --> 01:26:48,159
SOMEDAY i will get to be in the mix with,

2066
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:49,079
him and that's gonna be a good.

2067
01:26:49,119 --> 01:26:54,159
Speaker 2: Time, yeah you know that's. PERFECT i will be storyteller

2068
01:26:54,159 --> 01:26:56,279
because THEN i won't be imp you, know that's.

2069
01:26:56,279 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: True that's. True although there is there is a, character

2070
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,279
there's A i think it's an. Outsider it's an outsider

2071
01:27:03,279 --> 01:27:07,439
that if you kill the outsider or when that outsider,

2072
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:12,760
dies the storyteller gains and minion. Ability that's kind of.

2073
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 2: Cool, yeah is that that you haven't added that one in? Yet.

2074
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 1: NO i think it's called the plague. Doctor i've not

2075
01:27:18,039 --> 01:27:20,159
put that in our in our sessions, yet but it's

2076
01:27:20,199 --> 01:27:21,560
a it's a weird one when it pops.

2077
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:26,359
Speaker 2: Up, yeah so let's talk about. That so you recently

2078
01:27:26,399 --> 01:27:30,159
created a new, script your own, creation added a bunch

2079
01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:33,960
of new. Roles we had what Village idiot was added?

2080
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,479
IN i believe to this. One we have two new

2081
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,319
demons were added in The Ojoe and you call it

2082
01:27:40,359 --> 01:27:42,520
The PUKA i was calling. It is It?

2083
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 1: PUKA i like saying puka more than. Puka puka would

2084
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,720
be like p o o ka right.

2085
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,199
Speaker 2: Like, Pooky like, OKAY i get, it. Puck, yeah, Okay i'll.

2086
01:27:54,199 --> 01:27:56,079
Speaker 1: Allow you can say how you, want, Though AND i

2087
01:27:56,119 --> 01:27:59,399
because some people say The, OJO i think the j

2088
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,600
is supposed to be like like an h sound like,

2089
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,159
oh SO i always hear. That SO i don't even

2090
01:28:04,199 --> 01:28:05,560
know what's right between those. Two SO i GUESS i

2091
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,560
picked the two demons, that, LIKE i don't know how you

2092
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:08,199
pronounce these.

2093
01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:12,079
Speaker 2: Things i'm gonna stick With ojo for that. One i'll,

2094
01:28:12,159 --> 01:28:15,920
I'll i'll Allow, paka But ojo's stuy. In.

2095
01:28:16,079 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2096
01:28:17,039 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah and then we had what? Else The godfather was?

2097
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: Added, YEAH a couple of only a couple of new.

2098
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,960
MINIONS i just pretty much switched The baron for The,

2099
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:30,560
godfather had the assassin in, there, outsiders switch those. UP i,

2100
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,159
mean my idea with this script IS i wanted you

2101
01:28:33,159 --> 01:28:35,720
guys to have some more, characters more character, VARIETY i.

2102
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,840
WANT i wanted more, demons for, sure because that's like

2103
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:39,399
a big part of the game is figuring out which

2104
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,439
demon is in. Play that's a fun puzzle to. Solve

2105
01:28:42,119 --> 01:28:44,720
BUT i wanted to keep it like pretty much the

2106
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,640
same structure of the, game because there's other scripts that

2107
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,000
are like a very, different like the game is completely

2108
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,079
different the things you're looking out. For like there's one

2109
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,439
one of the default scripts THAT i ACTUALLY i wanted to,

2110
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,279
pitch pitch it to your talk to you about it

2111
01:28:55,279 --> 01:28:58,079
and see if you're interested in. It it's Called Bad Moon,

2112
01:28:58,159 --> 01:29:00,119
rising and the idea of it is that people well

2113
01:29:00,199 --> 01:29:02,520
don't really get like information in the sense of, like,

2114
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,920
oh this person's. Good you never learn like just basic

2115
01:29:05,039 --> 01:29:08,039
information like. That all the information and all the characters,

2116
01:29:08,119 --> 01:29:11,880
though are just based around, deaths characters dying at different,

2117
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:13,199
times so you might have a night that has like

2118
01:29:13,279 --> 01:29:16,479
two or three or more, deaths and so like trying

2119
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,760
to figure out why these deaths, happened like that's how

2120
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,920
you kind of have to reverse the. Information but then

2121
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,359
there's also a couple of ways to. REVIVE i know

2122
01:29:23,359 --> 01:29:25,479
at one point we had The professor as one of

2123
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:27,399
the good guys who can revive a, person which we

2124
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,760
had happened once in one of our, Games so that

2125
01:29:30,119 --> 01:29:32,000
character's in there as well as some other. Ones but

2126
01:29:32,039 --> 01:29:34,479
then there's also a bunch more protection, Roles so like

2127
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,319
we use The. Innkeeper now The innkeeper is originally From

2128
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,680
Bad Moon, rising so who can like save two, people

2129
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,359
one of them is. Drunk so there's a lot of

2130
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,479
characters like that that protect in different, ways a lot

2131
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,600
of characters that kill in extra. Ways and then the,

2132
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,479
demons like one of the DEMONS i think The pucka's

2133
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,880
on that script too, actually but on that script as,

2134
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,840
well there's the like they're called The shabbloth and they

2135
01:29:55,039 --> 01:29:57,399
it's a demon who gets two kills every. Night but

2136
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:02,600
then the next, day the DAY i guess the not that,

2137
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,439
morning but the day, after one of those people who

2138
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,279
got killed can be, regurgitated it can come back to,

2139
01:30:08,359 --> 01:30:10,840
Life so that can kind of be a bluff along

2140
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:12,680
with like The professor in terms of like why did

2141
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:14,520
this person get, revived you also have to figure out

2142
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,239
why that, happened and then one of.

2143
01:30:16,239 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 2: Them but like multiple people could also be revived, though

2144
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,800
someone from a professor and someone from the, demon and yeah.

2145
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,520
Speaker 1: That could happen. Too that could happen, too and then,

2146
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:25,760
yeah one of the, characters one of the, demons is

2147
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:28,199
called a, poe and their ability is that they can

2148
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,399
choose to not kill one, night and then the next

2149
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:32,560
night they'll get three. Kills so they pretty much just

2150
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,640
charge up and get like a huge. Kill and so

2151
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,000
if there was like no deaths in the, night you

2152
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:37,720
could be, Like, okay were you about to get like

2153
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,159
blasted by a poe or was there just a couple

2154
01:30:40,199 --> 01:30:42,880
of protection roles that worked correctly and saved. Us so

2155
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,439
there's like fun so that that scripts like all about

2156
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,000
that kind of. Mechanics SO i tried to take a

2157
01:30:48,039 --> 01:30:49,720
few of those, things LIKE i wanted to add more

2158
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:51,960
ways that we could die in the, night and there

2159
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,159
being enough characters in play that there's like a little

2160
01:30:54,159 --> 01:30:56,359
bit of. Ambiguity was it a godfather, kill was an

2161
01:30:56,359 --> 01:31:00,159
assassin kill or was it like an acrobat or or

2162
01:31:00,199 --> 01:31:03,000
one of these other? Things uh, Moonschild things like that

2163
01:31:03,039 --> 01:31:05,119
like there's multiple ways that there can be multiple, kills

2164
01:31:05,119 --> 01:31:07,399
but it's not too. Overwhelming and then there isn't really

2165
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,399
like any other new mechanics other than, that it's just

2166
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,319
like switched up characters for like very similar type things

2167
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:14,720
took out took out like The saint and The, mayor

2168
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,000
so like two other win Conditions i've been pulled, out

2169
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:18,560
WHICH i don't, know do you do you like? That

2170
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:21,359
do you or do you miss having, like, Oh Saint.

2171
01:31:21,399 --> 01:31:23,560
Mayor that's interesting that there's like other ways the game could,

2172
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,479
end BECAUSE i GUESS i simplified it in a sense

2173
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,800
that there's really there's only one win. Condition.

2174
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 2: NOW i don't Think i've ever played on a game

2175
01:31:32,399 --> 01:31:37,319
that The mayor or The saint made a difference that

2176
01:31:37,319 --> 01:31:37,960
we won on those.

2177
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 1: Conditions we had One saint. Game it was very early.

2178
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,560
ON i remember it WAS i Think colton was The,

2179
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,239
saint BUT i think it was like the final, three

2180
01:31:44,279 --> 01:31:46,199
so it really didn't make a, difference like the human

2181
01:31:46,279 --> 01:31:48,039
was about to win, anyway and then like The, saint

2182
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:50,520
it was like The demon or The saint end of the.

2183
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,119
Game it was kind of like equivalent in that. CASE

2184
01:31:52,119 --> 01:31:54,119
i don't think we've had on. Early we've definitely never

2185
01:31:54,159 --> 01:31:55,760
had A mayor win or even a mayor make it

2186
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,239
like far in the. GAME i feel like for whatever.

2187
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:01,239
Speaker 2: Reason so, yeah so to, me, LIKE i don't see

2188
01:32:01,279 --> 01:32:04,560
any harm in those having been removed because they were

2189
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:05,159
never big.

2190
01:32:05,279 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 1: Players, YES i, Mean saint is a really good bluff

2191
01:32:08,039 --> 01:32:10,079
for a. Demon that's one of the reasons to keep

2192
01:32:10,119 --> 01:32:12,359
it in even if it never Gets it's not really

2193
01:32:12,399 --> 01:32:14,319
ever supposed to get, procked, right it's just the threat

2194
01:32:14,359 --> 01:32:18,000
of it and the just the idea is a fearful

2195
01:32:18,039 --> 01:32:19,399
thing that can.

2196
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:24,199
Speaker 2: Happen, yeah, yeah, So AND i mean that's the thing

2197
01:32:24,279 --> 01:32:27,439
people like latch onto those, roles, Right like the slayer

2198
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:31,560
role was another big. Lie artist is another. One SO i,

2199
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,800
mean if you've already got these other roles that are,

2200
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,880
useful and if that's all that's really being kept in,

2201
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:37,800
for then maybe it's. Not.

2202
01:32:38,199 --> 01:32:41,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah SO i definitely tried this scripto BECAUSE i

2203
01:32:41,039 --> 01:32:43,439
HAVEN'T i haven't played it. Yet because there's the three

2204
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,399
bas scripts in the. Game There's Trouble, brewing which is

2205
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:46,960
like the default one that we've played a bunch. Now

2206
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:51,279
There's sex And, violets WHICH i have played a couple. Times,

2207
01:32:51,359 --> 01:32:54,359
actually that one's pretty. Good that one has some other

2208
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:56,079
mechanics like madness in. THERE i don't know if you

2209
01:32:56,119 --> 01:32:58,239
HAVE i told you about madness what madness.

2210
01:32:57,880 --> 01:32:59,520
Speaker 2: Is YET i don't think.

2211
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,119
Speaker 1: So but down to, hear, yeah mat Madd this is

2212
01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:04,079
a it's kind of a weird mechanic to get your

2213
01:33:04,319 --> 01:33:06,439
get a hold. Of so one of the minions in

2214
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,039
that script is called The Sarah novs and they make

2215
01:33:09,399 --> 01:33:13,840
they choose a townsmoke every night and they make them

2216
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,960
mad about being another. Character, so for, example let's say

2217
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,520
you were the, mayor but The Sarah novas made you

2218
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,439
mad as The. Slayer that next, day you have to

2219
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,119
tell people you're The. Slayer you have to claim. Slayer

2220
01:33:25,159 --> 01:33:27,000
you have to say that's what you. Are you can't

2221
01:33:27,039 --> 01:33:29,359
Say I'm Sarah, novas madd and that's Why i'm saying The. Slayer.

2222
01:33:29,399 --> 01:33:32,319
Like you have to make, it you, know as best

2223
01:33:32,319 --> 01:33:34,840
as you can to your, ability make it believable that

2224
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,560
you are this this other character that you. Aren't and

2225
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,760
if you break, that you can at any point obviously

2226
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:41,720
it's a bluffing. Game you could just Say I'm Sarah

2227
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,279
novas matter right, now then the storyteller can and probably

2228
01:33:44,319 --> 01:33:46,159
will kill. You so if you break the rule on,

2229
01:33:46,199 --> 01:33:48,199
that then they'll just they'll just kill. You and the

2230
01:33:48,279 --> 01:33:51,079
day like continues, on so you're incentivized to play as

2231
01:33:51,119 --> 01:33:53,319
it and that becomes a fun thing too of like

2232
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:55,920
why did this guy just randomly on day three start

2233
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,199
claiming Like slayer for no? REASON i think He's Sarah novus,

2234
01:33:58,199 --> 01:33:59,800
mad but IF i ask, him you can't like confirm

2235
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,760
if you is or. Not so that there's a couple

2236
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,159
mechanics like that in the game where you are being

2237
01:34:05,399 --> 01:34:07,840
you're mad as a certain, character so you you have

2238
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:09,840
to pretend that you're a character that you. Aren't it

2239
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,560
gets a bit weird in terms of like let's say

2240
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,439
you going, up you'd say you're mad as this other,

2241
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,359
character but you go in like a private chat and

2242
01:34:16,399 --> 01:34:19,520
the storyteller's not in. There obviously you could like quote

2243
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,600
unquote cheat in a way and like, say, Oh I'm Sarah,

2244
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:23,920
Nara Sarah nova's mad right. Now but if like the

2245
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,159
storyteller jumps in that private chat and here's you say,

2246
01:34:26,159 --> 01:34:28,640
that and the storyteller might hang out in private chats

2247
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:30,600
that they know that someone who's mad is in just

2248
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:33,399
to make sure they aren't, cheating then they can it's

2249
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:35,359
not really, cheating but you just you, know having the

2250
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,119
downside of getting killed. Potentially so it's a weird McKennon

2251
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:41,239
to get used. To but it does add an interesting

2252
01:34:41,239 --> 01:34:43,840
wrinkle to the. Game and so sex And violence has

2253
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,680
like two or three ways that you can be mad

2254
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:46,159
in different.

2255
01:34:46,159 --> 01:34:49,680
Speaker 2: Ways but does this wear off the next? Day Like

2256
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:50,920
i'm mad, Today i'm the.

2257
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: Slayer it's exactly like. Poisoning so The Sarah novas picks someone.

2258
01:34:55,079 --> 01:34:58,079
Speaker 2: Up, sorry but like the next DAY i can come

2259
01:34:58,119 --> 01:35:00,199
in and be like sorry about, yesterday LIKE i is.

2260
01:35:00,239 --> 01:35:03,800
Mad i'm that's actually this role that you're allowed to declare.

2261
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,199
Speaker 1: It, okay but there's Different so but as an, example

2262
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,119
like and this has happened to me in a Game

2263
01:35:08,159 --> 01:35:10,680
i've played where, uh The Sarah novas just picked me

2264
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,760
the entire game and made me mad as something the entire,

2265
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:15,840
game SO I i couldn't come out the next, day

2266
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,600
and So i'm not the slayer. ANYMORE i was Saraen

2267
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:19,640
OVAs mad BECAUSE i was still the slayer of the whole.

2268
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,439
Game or they might switch up the role on. You

2269
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,560
so it's LIKE i first they claimed slayer and NOW

2270
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:24,960
i have to Say i'm The. VIRGIN i have to

2271
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:25,359
say The.

2272
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:27,039
Speaker 2: Washington that would be so.

2273
01:35:27,319 --> 01:35:29,119
Speaker 1: Fun or they can spread it around the room and

2274
01:35:29,159 --> 01:35:30,840
like get. People but then you, know once you put

2275
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:32,880
it onto a new, target then that original person and be, like,

2276
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:34,319
OKAY i Was Sarah novus? Mad we know there's A

2277
01:35:34,359 --> 01:35:37,279
Sarah novus in the. Game things like, That so it's

2278
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:37,960
it's it is.

2279
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 2: Interesting is that a minion or is that a?

2280
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,079
Speaker 1: Demon Sarah novas is is a, minion but there are

2281
01:35:44,199 --> 01:35:47,640
there's a town there's another character on that script is The.

2282
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:50,640
Pixie that is the townsfolk and The pixie IS i

2283
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:53,279
think the way it works is they're. Mad they have

2284
01:35:53,319 --> 01:35:55,119
to be mad that they are a certain, character and

2285
01:35:55,119 --> 01:35:58,720
then if that character, dies then they actually beat they

2286
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,159
actually gained that. Ability so if you, say if you're The,

2287
01:36:01,159 --> 01:36:03,600
pixie and YOU i keep using slayer as an, Example

2288
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,359
i'll just keep going with, it and you say you're

2289
01:36:05,399 --> 01:36:07,640
mad as The. Slayer just the whole game you claim

2290
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,079
you're A. Slayer so obviously it's gonna be potentially a

2291
01:36:09,079 --> 01:36:10,680
double claim out, there because there actually is The slayer

2292
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,520
and then there's you claiming you're The. Slayer if the

2293
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,720
actual slayer gets. Killed now you actually have the slayer

2294
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,760
ability because you stuck to that the whole. Game so

2295
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,560
there's things like that as. Well so there's other ways

2296
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,359
you can be mad outside of just The Sarah. Novus

2297
01:36:22,359 --> 01:36:24,159
but that's kind of like the the default.

2298
01:36:24,199 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 2: ONE i think that sounds really.

2299
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 1: Fun, yeah, yeah it's it's chaotic for. SURE i didn't

2300
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:32,920
know if you guys would be down for. Madness it

2301
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:34,600
isn't because, YOU i mean you've played a lot, now

2302
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:36,840
but some people in our group have only are still,

2303
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:39,960
newish Like i've played a lot less games than. You

2304
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:41,760
you AND i and stuff like, that so it's certain

2305
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,359
things like that are definitely a step. Up SO i don't.

2306
01:36:44,359 --> 01:36:46,159
KNOW i was thinking either for this, weekend we do

2307
01:36:46,319 --> 01:36:48,680
uh that script THAT i made again last. Weekend we

2308
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:50,359
keep running that ONE i think would be good for another,

2309
01:36:50,399 --> 01:36:53,159
weekend or we try Maybe Bad Moon, rising which is

2310
01:36:53,159 --> 01:36:54,479
the other ONE i said that has like all the

2311
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:57,399
different ways you can die in the. Night if people

2312
01:36:57,399 --> 01:36:58,960
want to do sex and, Viodes i'm down for. WHATEVER

2313
01:36:59,039 --> 01:37:02,079
I i GUESS i have to just learn a lot

2314
01:37:02,079 --> 01:37:04,520
as a storyteller to play these new. Characters it's always

2315
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,159
a step up to learn some of these new.

2316
01:37:06,199 --> 01:37:10,079
Speaker 2: THINGS i mean usually we play at least two. Games,

2317
01:37:10,159 --> 01:37:12,159
yeah you, know it might even be good to be, like,

2318
01:37:12,199 --> 01:37:13,720
hey this first, game we're going to do something that

2319
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:16,039
everyone's comfortable, with and then whoever wants to stick around

2320
01:37:16,079 --> 01:37:18,760
for this new script to try it. Out, yeah here's

2321
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,880
here's a, chance because, Yeah i'm down for. ANYTHING i

2322
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:23,600
would love to try different different.

2323
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 1: Scripts so, YEAH i mean there's so many Like i've

2324
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,760
played Because i've been playing this game so, Much Like

2325
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,720
i've been playing online games with people with this group

2326
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,640
In vancouver That i've. Met i've been going to some

2327
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,880
in person games with them as, Well and like the

2328
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:39,760
first ONE i went to was like only custom scripts

2329
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:41,560
the whole. Day SO i had not even played Trouble brewing,

2330
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:43,479
yet AND i was playing these custom scripts AND i

2331
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,039
was like so. Overwhelmed and now even thrown into like

2332
01:37:46,079 --> 01:37:48,960
any customs, SCRIPT i can at least like get along

2333
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,600
with it. Decently but there's still like always new characters

2334
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,479
That i'm having to, learn or certain mechanics like madness

2335
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:56,119
are hard to keep track, Of like it's hard to

2336
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:00,319
because you're already you're so preoccupied just trying to keep

2337
01:38:00,399 --> 01:38:02,199
your role, intact trying to put a world, together and

2338
01:38:02,239 --> 01:38:04,079
like trying to keep track of like what was this

2339
01:38:04,079 --> 01:38:06,199
guy that been saying on different? Days like are they

2340
01:38:06,199 --> 01:38:08,000
mad right? Now like you, know it's it's a lot

2341
01:38:08,039 --> 01:38:11,119
of extra things to keep track. Of so it's it's,

2342
01:38:11,159 --> 01:38:14,199
fun but obviously it's intense at, times so it's good

2343
01:38:14,199 --> 01:38:16,319
to dole these things out in. Time that's WHY i

2344
01:38:16,359 --> 01:38:18,680
think it would. BE i think we'll do pretty well

2345
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,319
when we jump To Badmin rising because you guys have

2346
01:38:20,359 --> 01:38:22,399
already seen a lot of these characters in previous, games

2347
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:24,119
BECAUSE i already put some of them in. There it

2348
01:38:24,159 --> 01:38:26,039
was almost like a hybrid between the two ideas Of

2349
01:38:26,079 --> 01:38:30,239
Trouble brewing And Badmint. Rising so, Yeah i'm excited. Though

2350
01:38:30,239 --> 01:38:31,840
it's it's gonna be really. Fun DID i tell you

2351
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,720
about My goblin game THAT i played in person? Session?

2352
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:40,840
No The. Goblin The goblin is a minion who if

2353
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:46,000
you are being nominated like for, execution if you say

2354
01:38:46,039 --> 01:38:49,920
you're The goblin and they continue to execute, you then evil.

2355
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:53,039
Wins so you can just, say, uh, yeah you guys

2356
01:38:53,079 --> 01:38:55,000
Are i'm a, Minion but like if you kill me right,

2357
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:56,880
now you're just gonna lose the. Game that's pretty much

2358
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:58,560
the idea of the. Characters so you're just a very,

2359
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:02,319
loud out there role even though even you're on the love.

2360
01:39:02,399 --> 01:39:06,960
It and SO i had a. Game there's another there's

2361
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:11,079
another townsfolk role called the, alchemist and the alchemist gets

2362
01:39:11,119 --> 01:39:14,359
a minion ability like randomly assigned to them at the

2363
01:39:14,359 --> 01:39:16,159
start of the, game OR i think that's how it.

2364
01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:18,039
WORKS i THINK i think that's. Right SO i was

2365
01:39:18,079 --> 01:39:20,439
on THIS i was in this. Game it WAS i

2366
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:22,199
forget the player count, was but it was. Me it

2367
01:39:22,239 --> 01:39:24,880
was one other minion and then my demon somewhere. ELSE

2368
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:27,319
i was THE i was the goblin in this. Game

2369
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,720
but like from the, BEGINNING i one of our bluffs

2370
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:32,760
was the. Alchemists So i'm, Like i'm gonna say That

2371
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,640
i'm the alchemist who has has the goblin, ability SO

2372
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,520
i can just like claim this, openly and whether or

2373
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,119
not they believe, ME i don't, know doesn't. Matter and

2374
01:39:41,399 --> 01:39:43,279
so the whole GAME i was kind of going along with,

2375
01:39:43,279 --> 01:39:44,680
that people, LIKE i don't know IF i believe this.

2376
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:46,520
GUY i don't know IF i. Do there wasn't really

2377
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:48,960
anything that Was there was no like evil pings on, me,

2378
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:52,239
Thankfully so there wasn't anything like detracting my. Information the

2379
01:39:52,239 --> 01:39:55,520
only weird thing is that someone else this is getting

2380
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:56,920
too in the. Weeds now one of the characters is

2381
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,279
the philosopher who can gain another character's, ability and if

2382
01:40:00,279 --> 01:40:02,640
they if that character is in, play then that person

2383
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,399
who actually had the ability originally is just drunk until

2384
01:40:05,399 --> 01:40:09,479
the philosopher. Dies so someone claim was had philosophered into

2385
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:12,079
alchymists for a, Bit so in, theory my ability wasn't

2386
01:40:12,119 --> 01:40:15,279
working for a little bit, while you, know along going

2387
01:40:15,319 --> 01:40:17,359
along with his, bluff but then that person. Died i'm, like,

2388
01:40:17,399 --> 01:40:19,800
okay well Now i'm back to being my goblin. Self

2389
01:40:20,239 --> 01:40:21,720
and the best part about it WAS i could just

2390
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:25,000
Say I'm I'm i'm the, goblin you, know because even

2391
01:40:25,279 --> 01:40:28,319
as the alchemist having the minion, ability it works differently

2392
01:40:28,319 --> 01:40:29,640
in that, way like if you're you're on the good,

2393
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:31,920
team if you are the alchemist with the goblin, ability

2394
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:33,600
so it's still the same. Thing you still want people

2395
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,640
to nominate, you execute, you and then the good team would.

2396
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,359
Win but it was like the perfect, cover the perfect.

2397
01:40:38,359 --> 01:40:40,439
Bluff we got all the way down to the final

2398
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:44,199
three and people are, like, okay Either dylan is actually

2399
01:40:44,239 --> 01:40:47,079
a good, alchemy a good alchemist with the minion or gobbling,

2400
01:40:47,079 --> 01:40:48,640
ability and we want to kill him and get the win,

2401
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:51,520
here or he's just lying and this is like all

2402
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,319
some crazy demon play and we just want to kill,

2403
01:40:53,359 --> 01:40:55,119
him and either, way the good team. Wins and SO

2404
01:40:55,159 --> 01:40:56,600
i could just sit there and be, like, Yeah i'm The,

2405
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,560
goblin vote for, me, Uh and so thankfully they voted for,

2406
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:01,760
me which both gave us The goblin. Win but then

2407
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:03,880
also it was the final three and then my demon was,

2408
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:05,600
alive and so we won the game in two separate.

2409
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:07,880
Ways but it felt really good to get That goblin.

2410
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:10,880
Win it was a very, fun very fun roundabout. Race

2411
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:11,880
it was a crazy.

2412
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:15,319
Speaker 2: Game and that was what script was that one.

2413
01:41:15,239 --> 01:41:17,359
Speaker 1: On that was a custom. SCRIPT i don't even remember

2414
01:41:17,399 --> 01:41:19,760
what it was. Called it was all sorts of wicked

2415
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:20,760
random characters on.

2416
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:24,560
Speaker 2: There, okay that sounds really fun. Too, Yeah i'm really

2417
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,840
excited as you continue to like make these scripts and

2418
01:41:28,279 --> 01:41:30,279
add characters and see how they all. Interact AND i

2419
01:41:30,319 --> 01:41:32,640
Know colton's starting to do the same as well now,

2420
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,399
too so it'll be interesting as well to see how

2421
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:37,680
kind of your scripts vary from his scripts and the

2422
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:39,239
characters that are chosen and how they.

2423
01:41:39,279 --> 01:41:43,199
Speaker 1: Interact so, yeah it's it's it's funny like for both

2424
01:41:43,239 --> 01:41:48,159
me And, colton like obviously we both make video, Games

2425
01:41:48,159 --> 01:41:49,720
like we both have a game On. Steam you can

2426
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:50,920
go check out our games if you want to go

2427
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,199
check Out colton's games Called Siege, Breaker, Minds Potion, problem

2428
01:41:53,239 --> 01:41:55,000
if you want to check them. Out and this is.

2429
01:41:55,119 --> 01:41:56,880
Fun it's like it's almost like a game design, thing

2430
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:58,880
like putting these scripts together and making like a balanced

2431
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,399
script of. Characters were like every interaction has like multiple

2432
01:42:01,399 --> 01:42:03,359
ways that could, happen so it's not, like, oh, well

2433
01:42:03,399 --> 01:42:05,520
if this one thing, happens obviously means this one person

2434
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:07,439
Is like for, example like when the when a virgin

2435
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,319
PROCs and trouble, brewing that's the only way that kind

2436
01:42:09,319 --> 01:42:12,319
of mechanic can. Happen so it like confirms. Information so

2437
01:42:12,359 --> 01:42:14,479
it's good to think, about, Like, okay what are multiple

2438
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:18,039
ways any interaction could, happen building some ambiguity, there so

2439
01:42:18,039 --> 01:42:20,720
it's not just like an immediate, SOLVE i don't. Know

2440
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,279
making making scripts and thinking about the balance of it

2441
01:42:23,319 --> 01:42:25,600
is is a really interesting. Thing and, yeah there's so

2442
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:27,960
many out, there and, like, uh there's only the three

2443
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,000
base scripts so far that are like considered like the

2444
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,399
standard default, ones but there's so many other that are

2445
01:42:32,399 --> 01:42:35,960
like supported in like the base collection or. Whatever and

2446
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:37,800
then there's like all sorts of people making random custom.

2447
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:39,479
Ones and a lot of the Games i've played are

2448
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:41,720
just like, yeah made by other people In vancouver who

2449
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:43,840
came up with like a funny idea for a. Script

2450
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,560
so it's it's it's a lot of fun putting putting them.

2451
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,760
Together you should try it. SOMETIME i want to see

2452
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:49,920
what A jessica's script would look.

2453
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:52,680
Speaker 2: Like, YEAH i, MEAN i GUESS i would just be

2454
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,800
going in, there like on the little wiki, page writing

2455
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,439
it down on my piece of, paper BUT i could

2456
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,039
go take a look see WHAT i. Find, yeah a

2457
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:05,600
question from like a storyteller. PERSPECTIVE i wanted to actually

2458
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:08,000
ask you about. This so this works out, again probably

2459
01:43:08,239 --> 01:43:09,479
gonna be a little in the weeds on this.

2460
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,319
Speaker 1: Whole, yeah we've lost a lot of viewers at this,

2461
01:43:11,319 --> 01:43:13,159
point and that's. Fine you, know they got an hour

2462
01:43:13,279 --> 01:43:16,319
twenty of regular video. Games but now we're to our

2463
01:43:16,399 --> 01:43:18,800
freak corner. Here is that it's all good freak not

2464
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:19,319
the freak.

2465
01:43:19,399 --> 01:43:23,319
Speaker 2: Corner it's. Good so It's, Honestly i'll live in this.

2466
01:43:23,359 --> 01:43:26,159
Corner this is a perfect corner for. Me when we

2467
01:43:26,239 --> 01:43:29,479
played that last, game that was a complete not her.

2468
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:33,479
Mess it was it was a total mess from a storyteller,

2469
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:36,159
Perspective like we had a VI, i a village idiot

2470
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:40,640
who didn't understand their role or like misheard the, storyteller

2471
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,560
and so they were saying that they were actually an.

2472
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:47,800
Ogre LIKE i guess from a storyteller, perspective is that

2473
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:51,199
just you assume that that is them, Bluffing like there

2474
01:43:51,279 --> 01:43:53,680
is not a need to like go in and check

2475
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:58,199
and verify, that because that one was a little wonky

2476
01:43:58,279 --> 01:44:03,000
because it threw all off. Everything like we then Killed

2477
01:44:03,279 --> 01:44:06,760
alex because we thought that there was three outsiders and

2478
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,199
it turned out Like alex was in fact actually the Moon.

2479
01:44:10,319 --> 01:44:13,760
Child so just kind of, wondering like is that just

2480
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,640
kind of storyteller discretion to like check in and be, like,

2481
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,520
hey you're claiming this wrong role that's not even in the.

2482
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:23,399
Speaker 1: Game. YEAH I i OBVIOUSLY i was in the storyteller

2483
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:25,159
of that, game SO i don't know exactly like how

2484
01:44:25,199 --> 01:44:29,000
it went. Down it's unfortunate because If ash had survived

2485
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,199
one more, night then that would have been cleared up

2486
01:44:32,239 --> 01:44:34,560
because The ogre only wakes up on the first, night

2487
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:36,640
and so When ash would have been open woken up,

2488
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,720
again would have been, like wait WHAT i, Thought I'm?

2489
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:40,600
Ogre what do you? Mean and then would have, Bene,

2490
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:43,920
oh you're actually The Village. Idiot you just misheard or.

2491
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:45,600
SOMETHING i, MEAN i think she was having some issue

2492
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:46,920
with like the app or, something SO i think it

2493
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,680
just like didn't give her the token, necessarily and THEN

2494
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:51,000
i DON'T i don't know if it was either a

2495
01:44:51,039 --> 01:44:52,640
text chat thing or if she was in a private

2496
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:54,720
chat With colton when they were talking about the rules

2497
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:56,680
or whatever was going on. There so, yeah that was

2498
01:44:56,720 --> 01:45:01,680
an UNFORTUNATE i, mean the thing is, LIKE i GUESS

2499
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:02,560
i wasn't too bothered about.

2500
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:02,600
Speaker 2: It.

2501
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,359
Speaker 1: MAYBE i also give the storyteller a huge amount of

2502
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,720
leeway because it's hard to keep things, straight and especially that,

2503
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:11,479
script there's so, much Especially Village idiot's a really tough

2504
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:15,079
character to run. Properly SO i Give golden a lot

2505
01:45:15,079 --> 01:45:16,800
of leeway, there and there's, like, oh, yeah you're allowed

2506
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,439
to have. Mistakes i've made some mistakes and games we've played,

2507
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:21,359
before but at the end of the, day, like, hey

2508
01:45:21,399 --> 01:45:23,239
it was that final. THREE i was, dead SO i couldn't,

2509
01:45:23,279 --> 01:45:24,760
nominate BUT i was, LIKE i think It's, Bryce LIKE

2510
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:26,560
i think we need to vote from there's enough information

2511
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:28,800
for me that was pointing towards the demon and so

2512
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,680
like the soul was still possible. There BUT i didn't

2513
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:33,800
also think That matt was also, evil and so the

2514
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:35,319
fact that they were two evil guys and they were

2515
01:45:35,319 --> 01:45:37,079
just killing they were wasting our, time their. Day they

2516
01:45:37,079 --> 01:45:39,199
did a really good job of just burning out the

2517
01:45:39,239 --> 01:45:41,600
clock by just like screwing around and talking about nothingness

2518
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,680
and then not nominating like anything of. Value like they

2519
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:46,399
did a really good job. There BUT i do think

2520
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:48,720
the game was still solvable even though it was like

2521
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:49,199
a total.

2522
01:45:49,359 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 2: Mess, WELL i, Like i'll be one hundred PERCENT i

2523
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:56,439
thought it Was bryce Over, matt BUT i Just i'm,

2524
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,279
Yeah matt was, Nominated So i'm gonna vote For. Matt

2525
01:45:59,279 --> 01:46:00,239
because it's a.

2526
01:46:00,199 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 1: Tricky, thing right we only there's only one good guy

2527
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:03,600
live in the final, three which means that you just

2528
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:05,560
have to have as the good. Team you have to

2529
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:08,640
trust that that guy's intuition is. Right AND i THINK

2530
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,279
i forget how the vote, went BUT i Think adam

2531
01:46:11,319 --> 01:46:13,239
like probably thought that was, evil which he. Was he was,

2532
01:46:13,319 --> 01:46:15,720
evil it just wasn't the demon. Unfortunately so but that

2533
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,079
was like our only chance to vote for. Someone SO

2534
01:46:18,199 --> 01:46:19,800
i don't. KNOW i think if IF i could go

2535
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:21,960
back in, TIME i would have like really, pushed hey

2536
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:24,039
can You, adam can you at least just Nominate? Brice so,

2537
01:46:24,119 --> 01:46:25,319
like are the people who want to vote for it

2538
01:46:25,319 --> 01:46:27,680
can vote for? It BUT i wasn't really. CERTAIN i

2539
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,399
was such a confusing. GAME i didn't know for. SURE

2540
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:30,840
i just IF i had to vote, ANYWHERE i would

2541
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:32,479
have put it On. Bryce BUT i WAS i was.

2542
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 2: Dead, yeah well there was only the one, nomination, right that's,

2543
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:40,159
Right adam. Nominate SO i mean had people push more.

2544
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:42,119
Speaker 1: To be LIKE i, mean that's a great thing to

2545
01:46:42,159 --> 01:46:44,760
do as the other team just like try and kill

2546
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,920
the time out in the final. Three if there's two

2547
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:50,000
evil guys, live just let the good guy nominate. Something

2548
01:46:50,079 --> 01:46:53,439
hope it's obviously the wrong one and just just like

2549
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,439
screw at the. TIME i mean that there's LIKE i

2550
01:46:55,439 --> 01:46:57,720
feel like that's the role of the baron in Trouble

2551
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:00,359
brewing is like you don't once you've been put in the,

2552
01:47:00,399 --> 01:47:03,399
bag your role is, done, Right you've got The outsiders in.

2553
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:05,560
Play now you don't have to worry about staying. Alive

2554
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,880
just create as much chaos as you can waste the. Clock,

2555
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:11,319
obviously don't be like too obvious about, it but just, like,

2556
01:47:11,359 --> 01:47:13,439
hey wheneveryone has free time to talk in the, town

2557
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,279
just say the most, random useless crap of all, time you,

2558
01:47:17,279 --> 01:47:19,720
know like just kill just kill the clock and make

2559
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,560
it so town can't solve. ANYTHING i think it's feel.

2560
01:47:22,319 --> 01:47:25,119
Speaker 2: Like that's What matt does every, time even if he's, good.

2561
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:27,359
Speaker 1: He's very long, winded which is which helps from which

2562
01:47:27,359 --> 01:47:29,319
helps him out really well when he is evil and

2563
01:47:29,399 --> 01:47:32,680
he's not the, imp because he really does burn a

2564
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:34,319
lot of. Time AND i, MEAN i think me And

2565
01:47:34,399 --> 01:47:36,720
colton also like just run it kind of differently in

2566
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:39,239
terms of how long we let things go on. For

2567
01:47:39,359 --> 01:47:41,079
AND i try And i'm trying to make things more

2568
01:47:41,119 --> 01:47:43,520
and more snappy as we go. Along but even, like for,

2569
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:45,199
example when we get to Like badman, rise AND i

2570
01:47:45,239 --> 01:47:46,880
think that is a THING i need to. CHANGE i,

2571
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:48,840
think since there's so many deaths in the night and

2572
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:50,520
the games are gonna be shorter in that, Way i'll

2573
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:51,760
probably just give you guys a lot more time to

2574
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:53,439
chat during the day because also the puzzle is a

2575
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:55,840
lot more, complex so you need more time to really solve,

2576
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:57,159
things and SO i DON'T i THINK i just have

2577
01:47:57,239 --> 01:47:59,600
to sit and with a script. TOO i THINK i

2578
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:01,439
tried to get you guys about equal time to trouble

2579
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:03,479
brewing in terms of how Long i'm making the days

2580
01:48:04,399 --> 01:48:06,720
And i'm trying to run without the. Clock, NOW i

2581
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:08,319
wanted to ask you about. That how did you feel

2582
01:48:08,319 --> 01:48:11,840
about me not using any, timers like any physical, Timers

2583
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:13,760
and WHEN i was storytelling those last, games did you

2584
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,880
even notice a difference or did it feel pretty much the?

2585
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:17,880
SAME i, MEAN.

2586
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:20,560
Speaker 2: I like the timers strictly because THEN i know what to.

2587
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:26,600
Expect BUT i also would like me, personally would like more,

2588
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:28,880
time like with everyone in, town because we've gotten to

2589
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,079
the point now where everyone's in private. Chats, yeah but

2590
01:48:31,119 --> 01:48:32,680
then when we come back to town and there's only

2591
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:35,800
like one minute before nominations open and there's twelve, people,

2592
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:39,600
like it's not enough time to really discuss what people

2593
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:40,279
might have found.

2594
01:48:40,319 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 1: Out, yeah that's.

2595
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:46,199
Speaker 2: Fair it is good to like to. Know because there

2596
01:48:46,279 --> 01:48:48,880
was a couple one of the nights That colton was a,

2597
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:51,399
storyteller like it said there was like ten seconds left

2598
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:53,840
and someone put up a, nomination and then it was, like,

2599
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,359
okay well this isn't going to, pass but we need

2600
01:48:56,399 --> 01:48:59,800
to like you, know be ready to like immediately nominate someone.

2601
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:01,920
Else and if that ten second timer wasn't in the,

2602
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,760
bottom you, know maybe we would be as aware of

2603
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:05,800
how fast we need to.

2604
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 1: Move, YEAH i, MEAN I i do try and make

2605
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:12,279
it fair for you, guys AND i do like any

2606
01:49:12,319 --> 01:49:15,039
NOMINATIONS i can call for, nominations you, know any last

2607
01:49:15,039 --> 01:49:16,960
second nominations that i'd be a good. Time, yeah try

2608
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:18,159
and try and make it fair in that. Way but

2609
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:20,800
heard on That i'll try and give you guys more,

2610
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:23,000
time especially because this is another thing, too IS i

2611
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:25,399
feel like, GENERALLY i don't know if it's like technically

2612
01:49:25,399 --> 01:49:27,600
against the, rules because you, know it's very free form

2613
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:29,119
in terms of how you run a lot of, it

2614
01:49:29,199 --> 01:49:31,640
but like In final, three you're not really supposed to

2615
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,920
give any private chat, time like it's supposed to be

2616
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:35,760
all out in the. OPEN i tried to change that

2617
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:39,079
last session and, call you, know making sure that everyone

2618
01:49:39,159 --> 01:49:41,079
just talks in town together in The final, three BUT

2619
01:49:41,119 --> 01:49:43,439
i haven't done that in the, past SO i just

2620
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:44,560
kind of it.

2621
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 2: UP i like it. Better it's like it's it's the,

2622
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:49,439
end like put it all on the, table like.

2623
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 1: Exactly you. Know it's tricky, though if there is that

2624
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,399
person who's just trying to waste, time and there's some

2625
01:49:54,399 --> 01:49:56,319
people who are like louder than others and whatnot that

2626
01:49:56,479 --> 01:50:00,279
won't might be more more willing to just talk, endless you,

2627
01:50:00,319 --> 01:50:03,359
know so you gotta like try and moderate to some.

2628
01:50:03,399 --> 01:50:07,439
Extent but you, know it's. FUNNY I. Uh one of

2629
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:11,239
the things before we started last, SESSION i was gonna

2630
01:50:11,239 --> 01:50:12,800
do a LITTLE. PSA i was gonna, say you know, what,

2631
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:14,840
guys you guys are getting way too wild when the

2632
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:16,880
accusations are, happening like BECAUSE i WANT i want to

2633
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,960
hear the accuser make their, case then, defender and then anything.

2634
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,600
Pertinent BECAUSE i feel like the session before it was too.

2635
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:24,640
Crazy people were just talking over each other and it

2636
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:28,479
was like getting too. CRAZY i feel LIKE i circumvented

2637
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:30,279
it a little bit by just again trying to be

2638
01:50:30,319 --> 01:50:33,000
annoying of, like hey stop, talking let this person talk

2639
01:50:33,039 --> 01:50:35,199
go into. Order and THEN i was trying to give

2640
01:50:35,199 --> 01:50:37,319
you guys more time when we get back to. Town

2641
01:50:37,359 --> 01:50:39,720
BEFORE i open the nominations so that BECAUSE i haven't

2642
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:41,920
really done that, before usually just opened nominations right. Away

2643
01:50:42,159 --> 01:50:43,640
BUT i did try and give you guys a bit

2644
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:46,920
more time. There but, Yeah i'm also trying to make

2645
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:48,840
the game move a clean, pace like it especially for

2646
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:51,319
people like if you got killed night one and YOU'RE

2647
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:54,239
i don't like a useless role or something like that

2648
01:50:54,279 --> 01:50:56,840
for a lot of, people like they aren't as engaged

2649
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:58,119
with the game at that point because they feel like,

2650
01:50:58,199 --> 01:50:59,760
it or if you use your ghost, vote like you're

2651
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:01,399
kind of just sitting, there you're just kind of hanging

2652
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:03,399
out and you can still say, stuff of, Course BUT

2653
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:04,760
i don't. KNOW i GUESS i am trying to make

2654
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:09,479
the games Like i'd rather have three hour long games

2655
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:11,279
than two hour and a half long games in the,

2656
01:51:11,399 --> 01:51:12,880
night you, know like that would be a preference for

2657
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:14,479
me if we u with the time that we, have.

2658
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:18,000
Speaker 2: Right, YEAH i, agree it's funner to be able to

2659
01:51:18,039 --> 01:51:20,800
like restart and you, know figure out a new situation and.

2660
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:25,640
Everything AND i do agree THAT i think the like

2661
01:51:26,279 --> 01:51:30,800
here's your like, accusation here's sort of, defense and, honestly you,

2662
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:34,560
know maybe it doesn't even necessarily need a time for

2663
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:37,239
like other people to chime, in, like you, know maybe

2664
01:51:37,239 --> 01:51:39,920
if you want to chime, in do it at a different.

2665
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:42,600
Time but that's kind of that's a hard one because

2666
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:45,359
sometimes people do bring up really good, points but it

2667
01:51:45,359 --> 01:51:46,239
does just extend.

2668
01:51:46,279 --> 01:51:48,560
Speaker 1: EVERYTHING i think it's good as long as they are

2669
01:51:49,039 --> 01:51:51,600
talking about the, accusation but so many times it's like

2670
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:54,359
starts out as, like, oh, yeah this Person's jessica's on the.

2671
01:51:54,359 --> 01:51:56,600
BLOCK i want to just we shouldn't vote for just

2672
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:59,119
so because here's these three people that are colluding and

2673
01:51:59,159 --> 01:52:00,640
we would actually vote for. This it's like, no, no,

2674
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:03,199
no keep it. Relative just JUST i get. It you're

2675
01:52:03,239 --> 01:52:04,560
trying to get just off the, block you, know that

2676
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:06,600
kind of. Thing but at the same, time sometimes the

2677
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:08,720
conversation gets like really far away from like the actual

2678
01:52:09,159 --> 01:52:13,079
thing at. Hand BUT i also think that like the

2679
01:52:13,079 --> 01:52:16,239
more time you, give the harder it is for evil.

2680
01:52:16,279 --> 01:52:19,319
Team like the you, know there's more good people that have, information,

2681
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:20,920
right and so the more they can like connect all that,

2682
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:23,279
INFORMATION i feel like you're probably just gonna get like

2683
01:52:23,359 --> 01:52:25,479
good winning every. Game and So i'm trying to find that,

2684
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:28,319
balance right OF i, MEAN i ideally for, me every

2685
01:52:28,359 --> 01:52:31,079
game is a final three and is a nail, bier,

2686
01:52:31,159 --> 01:52:34,119
right because those are the most, exciting like you, know high,

2687
01:52:34,239 --> 01:52:37,439
risk high reward kind of. Things and so Obviously i'm

2688
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:39,960
following the rules as a. Storyteller i'm not like cheating

2689
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:42,439
to make those things. Happen BUT i don't, KNOW i

2690
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:43,960
think that. IS i think with the pace that we

2691
01:52:44,039 --> 01:52:46,000
have it at right, now like we are pretty close

2692
01:52:46,039 --> 01:52:47,880
to a fifty to fifty win, rate like regardless of,

2693
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:51,680
script regardless of like whatever. Session like, overall like our

2694
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:53,760
group is pretty close that fifty to fifty, rate which

2695
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:55,159
is for me a win as a.

2696
01:52:55,239 --> 01:53:00,359
Speaker 2: Storyteller and there's definitely been some more LIKE i don't

2697
01:53:00,399 --> 01:53:03,279
know who, won like even after the final, vote it's

2698
01:53:03,359 --> 01:53:06,039
like did we get? Them like because people won't, react

2699
01:53:06,039 --> 01:53:07,880
there's no like yeah we did it or anything like.

2700
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:10,319
That it's just like waiting for the you, know the

2701
01:53:10,319 --> 01:53:14,039
little circle to appear red or. Blue so, yeah, YEAH

2702
01:53:14,079 --> 01:53:17,319
i don't. Know it's, Honestly i'm, LIKE i don't remember

2703
01:53:17,319 --> 01:53:19,720
how you even found this, originally But i'm so glad you.

2704
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,199
Did it's like one of the THINGS i look forward,

2705
01:53:21,239 --> 01:53:21,680
to like every.

2706
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,520
Speaker 1: Weekend, YEAH i MEAN I i THINK i shared this

2707
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:27,039
briefly when we were playing on last. Weekend BUT i

2708
01:53:27,239 --> 01:53:30,880
discovered it through like there was a YouTube series that

2709
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,199
Was survivor players Playing blood on the Clock tower AND

2710
01:53:33,239 --> 01:53:35,119
i watched a few of, those AND i was, like,

2711
01:53:35,159 --> 01:53:37,239
oh this is. GREAT i, Mean i'm so Into survivor

2712
01:53:37,279 --> 01:53:39,760
and so having like one just Like survivor players who

2713
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:41,680
weren't on the same, season like crossing over in this

2714
01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:43,760
weird way and just getting like a, good like two

2715
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:45,520
three hour long. Video the ONES i watched are like

2716
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:48,479
really well edited. Too if you want to check them,

2717
01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:50,399
out You, SHOULDAH i think you'd really enjoy them because

2718
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:52,479
you also Like survivor and now Love blood on the Clock.

2719
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:54,880
Tower SO i watched a bunch of, those, uh and

2720
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:56,479
then she was, like, OH i want to play this.

2721
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:58,680
Game and then since Then i've checked out a couple

2722
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:02,159
other channels who do, uh, Dude blood on the Clock tower.

2723
01:54:02,199 --> 01:54:03,600
Games those are fun like ones that are like really

2724
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,479
highly well. Produced those are. Fun, YEAH i was, LIKE

2725
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:07,680
i just want to try it. Out and Now i'm

2726
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:10,039
just so freaking. Hooked and THEN i got roped into

2727
01:54:10,079 --> 01:54:12,439
This vancouver community and Now i'm like meeting a bunch

2728
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:15,479
of new, people more friends and all sorts of stuff

2729
01:54:15,479 --> 01:54:17,479
and it's been just it's. Great it's been a great.

2730
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:20,520
Community everyone's very chill and, fun even though it's a

2731
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:22,279
game about lying to each, other which is.

2732
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:27,079
Speaker 2: Funny, YEAH i MEAN i only slightly hold grudges towards

2733
01:54:27,079 --> 01:54:29,119
the PEOPLE i play. With mm, hmm only.

2734
01:54:29,239 --> 01:54:31,960
Speaker 1: Slightly, yeah you got you gotta have. SOME i, mean

2735
01:54:32,439 --> 01:54:36,000
there's definitely like a recurring. Medigame Like i've noticed in

2736
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:39,720
like some of the online games That i've, played certain

2737
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:42,119
people are just like always sust to, me regardless of

2738
01:54:42,199 --> 01:54:44,520
my alignment and so and but Then i'm, like the

2739
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:47,000
next Game i'm in with that, Person i'm just gonna

2740
01:54:47,039 --> 01:54:49,119
go to them And i'm, like, Hey i've noticed this.

2741
01:54:49,159 --> 01:54:51,039
Thing you're always sussing, Me, like how can we be

2742
01:54:51,279 --> 01:54:52,239
on the same? Team what do you want for? Me

2743
01:54:52,279 --> 01:54:53,399
do you want me to tell you my? Character do

2744
01:54:53,399 --> 01:54:54,880
you want me to give you like three? Characters you

2745
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:55,439
want me to lie to?

2746
01:54:55,439 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 2: You day?

2747
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:57,079
Speaker 1: One i'll do whatever you. WANT i, got you. KNOW

2748
01:54:57,119 --> 01:54:59,159
i feel like there's a kind of a metagame between

2749
01:54:59,199 --> 01:55:03,479
people too of to especially as a. Storytellers i'm watching you.

2750
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:05,079
Guys and then WHEN i finally got in, THERE i

2751
01:55:05,119 --> 01:55:06,920
was like just shot out of a can of, like,

2752
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:09,079
OH i have so many. STRATEGIES i know how to

2753
01:55:09,119 --> 01:55:10,640
mess with all of you BECAUSE i know exactly what

2754
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:12,359
you do when you're good or, bad Because i've been

2755
01:55:12,359 --> 01:55:16,880
watching from my gargoyle tower up, here so it's really

2756
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:19,199
fun to finally jump in. There i'm glad That colton's

2757
01:55:19,239 --> 01:55:21,479
really into storytelling and we can kind of split it

2758
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:23,640
half and half and we can both get in there and. Play.

2759
01:55:25,279 --> 01:55:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, YEAH i say it like at the end of every,

2760
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:31,000
game But i'll throw it onto the podcast so everyone.

2761
01:55:31,079 --> 01:55:33,640
KNOWS i appreciate you hosting these all the, time so thank.

2762
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:36,239
Speaker 1: You, YEAH i. Know i'm glad that everyone is taking

2763
01:55:36,279 --> 01:55:38,640
a liking to it because obviously we've had some friends

2764
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:40,239
in the front group like play it like once or.

2765
01:55:40,239 --> 01:55:42,439
Twice i'm, like, ah it's a good, game and then

2766
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:44,159
like they just don't want to play. Again but then

2767
01:55:44,159 --> 01:55:45,880
there's some people like every weekend they're, like, YEAH i

2768
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:47,520
want to play this game again and again and. Again

2769
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:49,359
Like that's WHY i was so happy When matt, joined because,

2770
01:55:49,359 --> 01:55:52,880
one he's just such an eclectic. Player he's so, intense

2771
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:54,920
he's so, funny and he's just like in love with the.

2772
01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:56,359
Game now he just wants to play all the. Time

2773
01:55:56,399 --> 01:55:58,399
so he was a great person to add in the.

2774
01:55:58,439 --> 01:56:00,000
Group and so it just gets more and more. Fun

2775
01:56:00,039 --> 01:56:02,920
and it's fun like mixing groups, too because obviously some

2776
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:04,880
of the people That i've pulled, in almost all of

2777
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:07,359
them have like that you know that you guys don't know,

2778
01:56:07,399 --> 01:56:09,760
previously are have like played the game of a bunch

2779
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:11,960
like they know. Stuff they're like into the meta game of.

2780
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:14,039
It and my Friend nick when he's, playing because he's

2781
01:56:14,039 --> 01:56:16,039
played like hundreds of games and his story told hundreds of,

2782
01:56:16,119 --> 01:56:18,039
games like he's a master of this, thing and he's, like,

2783
01:56:18,079 --> 01:56:19,760
man it's so fun playing with their group because there

2784
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:21,960
was like there is no meta or like the meta

2785
01:56:22,039 --> 01:56:23,800
is like in its you, know the rent of the

2786
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:26,079
early the classical era or, whatever and you guys don't

2787
01:56:26,119 --> 01:56:28,199
have all these like things figured out. Yet and so he's, like,

2788
01:56:28,199 --> 01:56:30,000
man this is this is so. DIFFERENT i love. It

2789
01:56:30,039 --> 01:56:32,399
like people are so. Cagey they don't lie to you as,

2790
01:56:32,479 --> 01:56:34,239
much but they just kind of tell you. Nothing it's

2791
01:56:34,239 --> 01:56:37,279
like it's different than playing games with like veteran players

2792
01:56:37,279 --> 01:56:39,920
who have already like thought about three ways that they

2793
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:41,920
can lie about what their role is and then reveal

2794
01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:44,239
on day, three and because some people do. That, man

2795
01:56:44,279 --> 01:56:46,159
some of these. Games there's one GUY i like, him

2796
01:56:46,159 --> 01:56:48,520
but he like he never has told a truthful thing

2797
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:50,279
on day, one and SO i don't even pick him.

2798
01:56:50,279 --> 01:56:51,880
Anymore on day, One i'm, like you're useless to, Me

2799
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:54,880
like you're just gonna tell me, bullshit try and trick

2800
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:57,520
me to give you. Information but Now i'm onto, him

2801
01:56:57,520 --> 01:56:59,119
and now he doesn't get anything from. Me so he's

2802
01:56:59,119 --> 01:57:01,279
gotta he's gotta switch it up or he's never getting

2803
01:57:01,319 --> 01:57:01,760
infro from.

2804
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:05,479
Speaker 2: Me and the very first Time nick ever called, me he's,

2805
01:57:05,479 --> 01:57:07,000
like want to do a three for? Three and then

2806
01:57:07,159 --> 01:57:10,319
the entire NIGHT i was just like explained to me.

2807
01:57:10,439 --> 01:57:12,640
Stuff and then so we sat in a private chat

2808
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:14,319
and he like explained it three for three or two

2809
01:57:14,359 --> 01:57:16,079
for two and like what people some people like say

2810
01:57:16,079 --> 01:57:18,680
it or they might not say or like they might

2811
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:20,760
say like a night one, rule or they might say

2812
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:22,760
like a reoccurring role and like and then we got

2813
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:24,439
called back to town AND i was, LIKE i told you,

2814
01:57:24,479 --> 01:57:25,560
nothing but thank you for.

2815
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 1: Everything see he was the shepherd in that. Game that

2816
01:57:28,079 --> 01:57:29,000
was the role he had that.

2817
01:57:29,039 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 2: Game, yeah, Yeah i'm gonna look up that's what.

2818
01:57:31,439 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 1: You'll be when we're playing with the patrons and stuff

2819
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:35,640
and they haven't played this game, before we're, like, oh

2820
01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,680
three for, three this is what this. Is but, YEAH

2821
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:40,560
i Know bryce said that too when he. Joined he's, like,

2822
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:42,319
man you're your friends don't know a three for. Three

2823
01:57:42,359 --> 01:57:44,720
this is. CRAZY i have to like reinvent my. Strategy

2824
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:49,840
this is normally WHAT i. Do But I'm I'm i'm

2825
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:52,039
so so on the three for. THREE i JUST i

2826
01:57:52,079 --> 01:57:54,359
can't remember all these things and somebody people just lie,

2827
01:57:54,399 --> 01:57:56,000
Anyway so it's, like what's even.

2828
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 2: The POINT i don't like?

2829
01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 1: It, yeah it's not my. FAVORITE i. CAN'T i can't

2830
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:03,439
remember ALL i, barely especially like you Think i'm being

2831
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:06,279
to remember the three you gave me four minutes from,

2832
01:58:06,279 --> 01:58:08,760
now that's not. Happening so, yeah that's.

2833
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 2: TRUE i know it's getting to the point WHERE i

2834
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:11,840
actually need like a.

2835
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:15,279
Speaker 1: Notebook To like, NOW i love how much it's in the,

2836
01:58:15,319 --> 01:58:17,399
app like how you can put custom notes and all that.

2837
01:58:17,439 --> 01:58:18,760
Stuff it's really. Nice.

2838
01:58:19,319 --> 01:58:21,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah i've been really leaning into it the last

2839
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:23,560
couple of, games as we've been getting into these bigger.

2840
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:27,119
Speaker 1: Scripts, yeah. Definitely, WELL i MEAN i feel LIKE i

2841
01:58:27,119 --> 01:58:29,359
could talk about this game for hours as as could.

2842
01:58:29,399 --> 01:58:32,760
You but, yeah any any final clock tower thoughts or

2843
01:58:33,399 --> 01:58:35,359
things like that before we close it out, HERE.

2844
01:58:38,119 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 2: I feel LIKE i am excited to play On. Saturday

2845
01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:45,600
that looks like what's? Happening, Yep and, yeah a shout

2846
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:47,760
out to someone who's probably a drunk right.

2847
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:51,319
Speaker 1: Now, yes there's always. Drunk you gotta have a. Drunk someone's,

2848
01:58:51,359 --> 01:58:53,800
poisoning someone's. Drunk it's poisoned and.

2849
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:56,840
Speaker 2: Drunk could could be a, village a drunk, village idiot and.

2850
01:58:56,760 --> 01:59:00,600
Speaker 1: A Drunk, yes all these things are very. Possible, yes great.

2851
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:03,039
Game anyone hasn't played yet check it. Out it's. Amazing

2852
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:05,800
thank You jessica for joining. Me this is a fun

2853
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:08,239
one as always The queen of Co. Op thank you

2854
01:59:08,319 --> 01:59:10,960
everyone for. Listening we'll be back again next week as

2855
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:37,119
we always. Are have a good one, bye