Speaker 1: Things behind Me were the headquarters for the World War
Speaker 1: Two Office of Strategic Service. It was here that the
Speaker 1: first halting steps toward mind control began.
Speaker 2: So ten years before Stanley Kubrick made The Shining, he
Speaker 2: made another film. There's a film about microcode called The
Speaker 2: Clockwork Gorn.
Speaker 3: The Shining is one movie that has really been put
Speaker 3: through the ringer and one thing that people really don't notice,
Speaker 3: that doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: All during the shoot, Kubrick is rewriting the movie.
Speaker 3: What we see here is Stanley Kubrick trying to encode
Speaker 3: a secret meaning into The Shining that he doesn't want
Speaker 3: anyone to know about her Fris.
Speaker 2: Kubrick has several references to Freemasonry in his films.
Speaker 3: There's a lady that walks past that has a bloody
Speaker 3: handprint on her ass.
Speaker 2: The Shining is Kubrick's eleventh film, and there's elevens all
Speaker 2: through the film. Eleven is a special number in occult theology.
Speaker 3: The Shining has been regarded as one of the greatest
Speaker 3: horror films ever made, But is it really a horror film?
Speaker 2: The Shining also is loaded a sexual innuendo.
Speaker 3: The family is isolated up at the overlook, which is
Speaker 3: a perfect opportunity for some sort of CIA experimentation to
Speaker 3: go down up.
Speaker 4: There, using mk ultra methods psycheatrically control assassins, literally assassins.
Speaker 5: Experimental drugs, including LSD were administered to human guinea pigs.
Speaker 4: The patients were never told that their treatment was part
Speaker 4: of a CIA experiment.
Speaker 6: And there was this story which involves him spiking the
Speaker 6: drinks of one of his deputies, this guy Frank Olsen,
Speaker 6: and he jumped out of a window to his death.
Speaker 7: It's a demonic possession, you know. So it makes someone
Speaker 7: feel like they don't have any control over this etherical
Speaker 7: entity outside themselves, when really it's the people who are
Speaker 7: imposing the trauma that need to be held accountable for
Speaker 7: the actions.
Speaker 3: Stuts.
Speaker 4: We know what happened in the apartment that they had.
Speaker 3: There are many clues that point to the fact that
Speaker 3: this theory of what the Shining is really about is
Speaker 3: the correct theory.
Speaker 2: We think that we're watching a horror movie where ghosts
Speaker 2: are kind of forcing a man to go off and
Speaker 2: kill this family.
Speaker 8: But what are we really watching Hereome.
Speaker 5: Wendy, I'm home.
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Speaker 3: warm welcome back to the show. Veteran radio host and
Speaker 3: the host of The Secret Teachings radio show, author and
Speaker 3: researcher and really good friend, Ryan Gable, Welcome back to
Speaker 3: the show, my friend. How's it going.
Speaker 5: It's going good, writer, Thank you for having me back
Speaker 5: on the show. I hope I don't have nightmares after
Speaker 5: watching that trailer again, because when I watched the movie,
Speaker 5: I had nightmares. But good to be back, dude.
Speaker 3: There wasn't. There's been several people that almost everyone that
Speaker 3: I've sent the screener to the time me on their
Speaker 3: show has had that same experience. And there's been a
Speaker 3: few people that didn't even know anything about it, and
Speaker 3: I brought it up during the show and they were like,
Speaker 3: now that I think about it, I have had really
Speaker 3: strange and weird dreams after I watched the movie.
Speaker 5: When I gave you a ring, when you when you
Speaker 5: were on ground zero? Did I forget to Clyde have
Speaker 5: bad dreams too?
Speaker 3: No, he didn't mention that he had any bad It
Speaker 3: seems like it's only like with the screener that I
Speaker 3: send the people. I don't know, it's really strange, Like
Speaker 3: I I don't think I've gotten anyone that's actually watched
Speaker 3: it on Amazon that.
Speaker 5: Has all that had that experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is really weird.
Speaker 5: What did you put in the screener that tell us?
Speaker 3: I didn't put nothing in there? Did. It was all,
Speaker 3: you know, royalty free music, all royalty free sound effects,
Speaker 3: and just a lot of hard work and time and
Speaker 3: effort put into it. So maybe my maybe some of
Speaker 3: my frustration with making the movie transferred onto the movie.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe so you kind of were driven crazy a little
Speaker 5: bit and that came through in the screener.
Speaker 3: I did, dude, I felt like Jack Nicholson in The Shining.
Speaker 3: As I was writer, I thought about doing a commercial
Speaker 3: with Sierra where I was Jack and she was Windy
Speaker 3: and would be good promotion for the movie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would have been great for Halloween.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, and but it wasn't out for Halloween.
Speaker 3: It didn't come out until a couple of day before
Speaker 3: the election, So but I thought about doing that. I
Speaker 3: thought that would be really fun, but it would take
Speaker 3: a lot of money to essentially recreate the entire set
Speaker 3: of The Shining. I mean you could do it, you could,
Speaker 3: I mean you could get it pretty close.
Speaker 5: But you'd have to sell a lot of copies of
Speaker 5: the movie to pay for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that would have to be uh, really rough.
Speaker 3: But Ryan Brother, it's been a couple of months since
Speaker 3: you've been on. Can you let people know where they
Speaker 3: can find your work? I understand that you've had some
Speaker 3: trouble on line, and we don't have to really get
Speaker 3: into that as much, but just let people know where
Speaker 3: they can find you now, and I'll plug your website
Speaker 3: before we get into this discussion.
Speaker 5: It's very simple, T s T Radio dot info. It's
Speaker 5: got the links for the archive, it has the links
Speaker 5: for the books, it has the links to social media.
Speaker 5: TST radio dot Info.
Speaker 3: Awesome that the Yeah, it's in the description, but people
Speaker 3: are always like, I can't find I don't know where
Speaker 3: to find his show. I've had several people reach out
Speaker 3: to me on about you and they're like where like
Speaker 3: several emails being reached out tell you yeah, literal emails
Speaker 3: me like I does Ryan have a show?
Speaker 5: And I'm like, yeah, TST radio dot Info. It's got
Speaker 5: all the links there, whether you're a subscriber or the
Speaker 5: free archive, it's all there on the website. So you know,
Speaker 5: that's the thing about how rumors get started, good or
Speaker 5: bad or neutral. I heard somebody in another I was
Speaker 5: in a chat room the other night. I called into
Speaker 5: Dave Cruise's show for his anniversary show Beyond the Strange,
Speaker 5: and there was somebody in the chat who said, oh,
Speaker 5: I heard that Ryan guy. They let him back on
Speaker 5: the network. And I asked the person where did you
Speaker 5: hear that at? Oh it was on the social media page.
Speaker 5: I said, well, I run that page. I didn't post that,
Speaker 5: so I'm not sure shit what you're talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 5: TST radio dot Info. I can't believe people are asking
Speaker 5: you that.
Speaker 3: But I've had several people would be like, oh, where
Speaker 3: does Ryan have a show? I can't find a show,
Speaker 3: And I was like, it's in the description of every
Speaker 3: show that I do with Ryan. It's TST Radio, well
Speaker 3: Separate Teachings Radio, right under the description. You just hit
Speaker 3: the more information button under the title of the video
Speaker 3: and it pops down all the different links.
Speaker 5: It's a little humorous when people say, I've listened to
Speaker 5: your show for fifteen years. Have you ever done a
Speaker 5: show on freemasonry or conspiracies? No, I haven't. I should
Speaker 5: definitely do that.
Speaker 3: Well they obviously.
Speaker 5: Jello, Thank you Jello if you're listening to the show
Speaker 5: and Speaker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really helps out. People have complained about some
Speaker 3: of my ads on some of the ads on Speaker,
Speaker 3: but we don't have control of how many ads get
Speaker 3: put on there. It's they just put ads on there
Speaker 3: like there's nothing that we can really do about that.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm not the federal government. I don't just
Speaker 5: give stuff away for free. Takes a lot of time
Speaker 5: and effort to make something.
Speaker 3: It does an amount of work that we take to
Speaker 3: put into these shows as it really goes under the radar.
Speaker 3: But we have a lot of interesting things happening, and
Speaker 3: we got these drones supposed to which I'm really confused.
Speaker 3: Ran you did a show on this the other day
Speaker 3: about these drones in New Jersey, and I'm kind of
Speaker 3: confused about the entire UFO narrative at this point, and
Speaker 3: I've kind of taken a step back from ufology and
Speaker 3: UFO news because it just seems like it's just a
Speaker 3: repeating cycle over and over again. And especially but I
Speaker 3: don't know, are they drones? Are they UFO was like,
Speaker 3: what is going Are they military craft? Like I don't
Speaker 3: really understand what's going on here with this stuff. Like
Speaker 3: the names have changed, UFOs are now UAPs, and it's
Speaker 3: like they can't even get the name right of what
Speaker 3: it actually is. And then there's people that are like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: it's it's Iran, it's Iranian Mothership. There was this congress
Speaker 3: Republican congressman that was talking about how it's Iran. Which
Speaker 3: is really interesting because as soon as this came out,
Speaker 3: I immediately thought of the Chinese spy balloon incident that
Speaker 3: happened around this time last year in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: and everyone was freaking out about the Chinese spy balloon,
Speaker 3: and they called it a UFO for several weeks before
Speaker 3: that it came out that it was an actual Chinese
Speaker 3: spy balloon. But this seems like a repeating thing, and
Speaker 3: that happened in late December, like early January of last year,
Speaker 3: so it's almost a carbon copy of what was going
Speaker 3: on almost exactly a year ago. But you've done a
Speaker 3: lot of research into this. Is it aliens? Ryan? Are
Speaker 3: these aliens? Is this alien craft? What's going on?
Speaker 5: Put my hair up? And it's not saying it is
Speaker 5: that it might be. Honestly, I feel the same way
Speaker 5: you do. I don't know what to make of it. Initially,
Speaker 5: I don't know what to make of it because we
Speaker 5: have gone from UFOs to UAPs now to just calling
Speaker 5: them drones. That's very confusing to me that we've now
Speaker 5: termed unidentified aerial phenomena into drones. So they don't know
Speaker 5: what they are, They have no idea. Congress is confused,
Speaker 5: the FBI is confused, police are confused, the Governor's confused,
Speaker 5: but they know they're drones, which of course led to
Speaker 5: the I don't know if you know this conspiracy or
Speaker 5: maybe you told this to me. I can't recall that
Speaker 5: they're alien drones that the Aliens knew that we reverse
Speaker 5: engineered their tech, so they decided to reverse engineer are
Speaker 5: crappy drone technology from best Buy. I think that's what
Speaker 5: this kind of it's a tabola rasa. It's a blank slate.
Speaker 5: So for some people it's Iranian drones to push war
Speaker 5: with Iran and Russia. For other people it's Chinese drones
Speaker 5: because the chicoms, because that's what info Wars said. For
Speaker 5: other people, there there's nothing there. And for some people
Speaker 5: they're alien spaceships from Mars, and for other people like
Speaker 5: myself and like you, like, we don't know what they are.
Speaker 5: But I do think based on what I've found, I
Speaker 5: do think I have a pretty good explanation of what
Speaker 5: these things are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like based on the agenda that wants
Speaker 3: to be pushed, it's kind of something different for everyone.
Speaker 3: One of the more interesting ones that I had heard
Speaker 3: people talking about was It's kind of fun and Sully.
Speaker 3: But they were kind of like, what if these are
Speaker 3: like advertisements for because some people were pointing out that
Speaker 3: they kind of look like the Some of the ones
Speaker 3: that people have spotted look like the Xbox logo, and
Speaker 3: they're like, well, what if this is just like a
Speaker 3: big advertisement for like these big companies and stuff, which
Speaker 3: is really interesting. I've actually been wanting to.
Speaker 5: That's that's not crazy. Actually there are companies that have
Speaker 5: already used drones for advertising.
Speaker 3: Well, this is a perfect opportunity because I've had this
Speaker 3: tab open on this computer for probably six months and
Speaker 3: I never found the appropriate time to bring it up.
Speaker 3: But this is very interesting here. Huge advertisements may soon
Speaker 3: start appearing in the sky over cities. A new research
Speaker 3: paper has explored the calls of putting massive advertisements Oh
Speaker 3: my god, all these stupid pop ups using satellite consolation.
Speaker 3: If you thought they were seeing if you thought you
Speaker 3: were seeing advertisements everywhere already, they might start stud putting
Speaker 3: them in the skies, according to a new paper release
Speaker 3: by researchers and Here's a big Coca Cola advertisement in
Speaker 3: the sky. The new paper, published on a journal Aerospace,
Speaker 3: explored the costs and strategies that would need to be
Speaker 3: put into place to get massive advertisement from brands in
Speaker 3: the sky above our cities. The researchers for Moscow based
Speaker 3: Technical Institute, along with Moscow Institute psych Technology, found that
Speaker 3: a group of satellites of no more than fifty would
Speaker 3: be needed to send into orbit to create an ad
Speaker 3: and conducting such mission would only cost approximately sixty five million.
Speaker 3: Oh Ryan, only sixty five million dollars to put these
Speaker 3: advertisements in. And here's the Olympic or is that the
Speaker 3: Olympic symbol or is that MSNBC? I don't know.
Speaker 5: That's the Olympic five rings of Adolf Hitler in the
Speaker 5: world and the regions. Yeah, they've used drones for advertising,
Speaker 5: and then this is a more ambitious project. That's a
Speaker 5: good point.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Just whenever I heard that, I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I have an article that I've been waiting
Speaker 3: to talk about for a long time because people were
Speaker 3: kind of relating this to you know, it being like
Speaker 3: a giant advertisement for the for for corporations. I thought
Speaker 3: this was really cool. So if people are interested, I'll
Speaker 3: even drop this link in the chat for people to
Speaker 3: check out.
Speaker 5: Conceptually. Sure, and it has been proposed and it already
Speaker 5: has been in some capacity used. They've used drones for
Speaker 5: I think even at the Olympics there were drones that
Speaker 5: were used to create things in the sky. We've done
Speaker 5: that with you know, lasers as well laser light shows
Speaker 5: and cg. You know, overlaid on top of real uh,
Speaker 5: you know, real things like the Seattle space needle. So
Speaker 5: that's a it's a good point. I obviously I don't
Speaker 5: think that's what the drones in New Jersey were, but
Speaker 5: that is a good point and another another angle to
Speaker 5: what we see in the sky and how to explain
Speaker 5: what it is, I mean, part of it, if I may.
Speaker 5: I read a story about a guy who is because
Speaker 5: these drones in New Jersey were also seen. There's a
Speaker 5: couple of reports in Philadelphia and some suburbs of Philadelphia,
Speaker 5: and one guy said that he was watching the news
Speaker 5: or listening to the news, or he was paying attention
Speaker 5: to what was going on in New Jersey and he thought, hmm,
Speaker 5: let me go outside and see if I can find
Speaker 5: any So he goes outside and he finds some drones
Speaker 5: there in the sky and he says, oh, look, there
Speaker 5: are the drones. I thought that that was interesting because
Speaker 5: it's like, you're not watching the skies. The news is
Speaker 5: telling you there's something weird going on. You go outside
Speaker 5: in an unrelated area and you look up and you're
Speaker 5: looking looking, where are the drones. Where are the UFOs? Oh,
Speaker 5: there they are, Because you're seeing what you intended to
Speaker 5: go see. That's kind of how I interpret that, and
Speaker 5: I think that's that's part of the tabula rasa, that's
Speaker 5: part of the blank slate, is that when you do
Speaker 5: go outside and you look up in the sky, whether
Speaker 5: it's over a home or a military base or whatever
Speaker 5: it might be, you're seeing things that correlate and correspond
Speaker 5: to what you believe, and the explanation that you provide
Speaker 5: is again correlated to what you believe. So if you
Speaker 5: really hate Iran, Iran must be doing it, and if
Speaker 5: you really hate China must be doing it. And if
Speaker 5: you really don't trust the government, they must be covering
Speaker 5: up the fact that these are alien spaceships. A lot
Speaker 5: of it is how we perceive it and what our
Speaker 5: beliefs are. That relates to how we end up interpreting
Speaker 5: what it is that we see in the sky. And
Speaker 5: for other people who don't want to believe any of it,
Speaker 5: they'll say, nothing's even happening, there's nothing there, you're all delusional.
Speaker 3: Well, there are such things as mothership drones, right that
Speaker 3: deploy other smaller drones.
Speaker 5: Yes, so that's what I found. I mean, I had
Speaker 5: already read about that before, but in researching that again
Speaker 5: for my show, which is on Spreaker, I do have
Speaker 5: a show. It does exist on TST radio dot Info.
Speaker 5: I did that UFO show. It was called now UFO
Speaker 5: see me, Now UFO don't. And the show is about
Speaker 5: how the United States and China are both working on
Speaker 5: swarm drone swarm programs for military application, mostly for spying,
Speaker 5: but for other things as well, and that these programs
Speaker 5: are resulting in the development of large drones that are
Speaker 5: essentially they don't call them this, but in euphological terms,
Speaker 5: mothership drones, and then they release smaller drones, and then
Speaker 5: those smaller drones come back to the larger drone. Now
Speaker 5: I was thinking, I mean, I know people very personally
Speaker 5: that have seen very large glowing objects in the sky
Speaker 5: that break apart and come back together. Perhaps the idea
Speaker 5: of a mothership drone and smaller drones is kind of
Speaker 5: a reverse engineering, if you will, of the idea of
Speaker 5: that which comes from pop culture and comes from science fiction.
Speaker 5: So we do have the development and I would imagine
Speaker 5: to some extent we have the perfecting of that technology
Speaker 5: already So that's just yes, the mothership drones. But there's
Speaker 5: something I think that's even more important, and I had
Speaker 5: sent you the link to it, and that is something
Speaker 5: called Project Convergence. The Project Convergence, which I just happened upon,
Speaker 5: I stumbled upon, is a program between the United States,
Speaker 5: the UK and Australia. Now I believe they conducted this
Speaker 5: drone experiment on the West coast out here where we
Speaker 5: are of the US in the Pacific somewhere, and Project
Speaker 5: Convergence was converging all of these different technologies together different countries,
Speaker 5: the US, the UK, and Australia, and with these drones,
Speaker 5: they could do some very interesting things with these drone swarms. One,
Speaker 5: they have these things infused with artificial intelligence, so they
Speaker 5: have what they refer to, in their own words, the
Speaker 5: military's own words, situational awareness. So these things are not
Speaker 5: only autonomous, they're a lot more conscious than just being autonomous.
Speaker 5: They can interact with in a way that is I
Speaker 5: guess new for drone technology. They can interact with their surroundings.
Speaker 5: So it's not unlikely. It's actually quite likely that when
Speaker 5: the Governor of New Jersey says that when they send
Speaker 5: drones up or the police say, when they send drones
Speaker 5: up in the sky to find out what's flying over
Speaker 5: in New Jersey and when they start to investigate, what
Speaker 5: happens is these drones go dark. The other drones, the
Speaker 5: ones they're looking at to figure out what they are,
Speaker 5: or these UFOs go dark. They respond to being watched,
Speaker 5: Which would be a really great feature of an AI
Speaker 5: powered autonomous drones swarm that's spying. You would probably want
Speaker 5: this thing to be able to basically disappear if it
Speaker 5: were caught. Now you might say, well, why would they
Speaker 5: have lights on in the first place if they're using
Speaker 5: them to spy. Well, that's if they're actually being applied
Speaker 5: in a situation in the real world. I think that
Speaker 5: what they're doing is they're experimenting and testing these things.
Speaker 5: And so if you were the military and you were
Speaker 5: using these drones that you can see on the screen
Speaker 5: right now, those are large car sized drones. That's a
Speaker 5: large drone. It's about the size of a small vehicle.
Speaker 5: Especially if you're talking about a European or Japanese vehicle,
Speaker 5: it's a very small vehicle. So it's the size of
Speaker 5: a vehicle, which is what's being reported in New Jersey.
Speaker 5: They have situational awareness, they can respond to their surroundings
Speaker 5: and respond to being monitored via the AI that's on
Speaker 5: board these drones, and as we already mentioned, there are
Speaker 5: the mothership drones. All of that explains the bizarre responses
Speaker 5: that these objects are having to be investigated. It explains
Speaker 5: they're bizarre behaviors, bizarre because they seem like they're coming
Speaker 5: out of nowhere and doing strange things. It explains all
Speaker 5: of the details of what's happening as far as I
Speaker 5: can tell in New Jersey. And I think that if
Speaker 5: the military would be actually conducting this experiment over American airspace,
Speaker 5: over you know, civilian population areas, over also military bases
Speaker 5: which they run, and over infrastructure. They're doing that because
Speaker 5: they're trying to train the AI and they're experimenting with
Speaker 5: these drones in different locations places that you would probably
Speaker 5: you know, you would probably look at infrastructure and military
Speaker 5: bases and probably even civilian areas if you were going
Speaker 5: to use these drones for surveillance in other countries and
Speaker 5: places where there might be quote enemies, and you probably
Speaker 5: wouldn't tell the governor or law enforcement or the FAA,
Speaker 5: which only puts restrictions on flight. It's the military that
Speaker 5: enforces them. You wouldn't tell them because if you told them,
Speaker 5: you couldn't get the real world feedback. So you have
Speaker 5: to keep it a secret, which is why the military
Speaker 5: isn't shooting them down because they know what they are.
Speaker 5: This is what I think. They're not shooting them down
Speaker 5: because they know what they are. That's why they can
Speaker 5: fly with immunity over military airspace and not like those
Speaker 5: stories of orbs at military nuclear facilities. These are clearly yeah,
Speaker 5: they are very much drone like the way they operate,
Speaker 5: and the military is not engaging them. It's because they
Speaker 5: know what they are, I think, and it's because they're
Speaker 5: the ones running them. And to some degree, I'm sure
Speaker 5: that there are people, you know, maybe at these military
Speaker 5: bases who are aware of the program or the project,
Speaker 5: but overall, you don't want to tell anybody what's happening
Speaker 5: because you want there to be a natural, organic reaction
Speaker 5: that is going to be the best way to train
Speaker 5: the artificial intelligence. And the same way, as far as
Speaker 5: I'm concerned that Elon Musk, who I'm sure to some
Speaker 5: extent does believe in free speech, Elon Musk wants Twitter.
Speaker 5: He wanted X, and he bought X. Not so much
Speaker 5: because of free speech per se, but because he wanted
Speaker 5: the real world, legitimate, real world, uncensored interactions of people
Speaker 5: to feed his h's autonomous. I think it's the exact
Speaker 5: same thing. That's my assessment.
Speaker 3: So if these drones are a part of a US,
Speaker 3: UK and Australian test simulation, what would be Because before
Speaker 3: the show got on, I asked Chad Gpt what was
Speaker 3: the earliest sightings of these types of drones over in
Speaker 3: New Jersey and it said that it goes back to
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen that people were seeing these drones over New Jersey. Now,
Speaker 3: I tried to type that into Google to try and
Speaker 3: find an article of people reporting these seeing these drones
Speaker 3: over New Jersey in twenty nineteen, and unfortunately with Google,
Speaker 3: like every single page is just of the latest article
Speaker 3: of what's happening now, and you can't really find any
Speaker 3: information of what happened before. But that's really interesting that
Speaker 3: if obviously child GBT is a AI system, But if
Speaker 3: that's true and these have been happening since twenty nineteen
Speaker 3: and they're still seeing that, they don't know what they are.
Speaker 3: It seems like a really long term surveillance strategy that's
Speaker 3: been happening for five years.
Speaker 5: Okay, so I didn't I didn't know that you had
Speaker 5: looked that up. My response to that just organically hearing
Speaker 5: that right now. My organic response is, I don't know
Speaker 5: when jet CHET GPT is pulling information for twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5: I don't know if what was happening in twenty nineteen
Speaker 5: or any other year that those objects that were seen
Speaker 5: have the same characteristics as these objects. Because people recently
Speaker 5: this week, within the last week, have seen opbject Oregon
Speaker 5: more unidentified flying objects. Pilots what was it two weeks ago,
Speaker 5: three weeks ago, pilots in Texas, two different instances. Pilots
Speaker 5: in Texas flying for two different airlines saw unidentified objects.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of like how we define a UFO itself,
Speaker 5: Like it's an unidentified flying object. It could be anything.
Speaker 5: It could be a military planet, it could be a drone,
Speaker 5: it could be something operated by the public. It could
Speaker 5: be just a satellite, a shooting start, could be a
Speaker 5: lot of things. So, I mean, drones have been seen
Speaker 5: in different parts of the world and swarms and they
Speaker 5: were miss or even satellites that you know, like the
Speaker 5: SpaceX ones that swarm across the sky kind of in
Speaker 5: a net. Those have been seen all over the place.
Speaker 5: We don't know what they are, and then we figure
Speaker 5: it out. Okay, they're satellites, they're drones. So if something
Speaker 5: was happening back in twenty nineteen, I'm sure that it
Speaker 5: was because things have been happening for centuries. I don't
Speaker 5: My initial reaction to what you're saying is, I don't
Speaker 5: think that the two are probably connected. I think think
Speaker 5: that the distinct features of what's happening right now in
Speaker 5: New Jersey, I have not heard those things reported about
Speaker 5: previous instances of these objects, whether they're in Oregon, Texas
Speaker 5: or in New Jersey. I think what we've been told
Speaker 5: by the governor and the media about these New Jersey
Speaker 5: drones are adequately explained by this particular military technology. As
Speaker 5: per the other things. I'm sure there have been UFOs,
Speaker 5: but I don't know if there are any correlations between
Speaker 5: the characteristics and the responses and behaviors that they.
Speaker 3: Have right I mean, we've had drone technology for a
Speaker 3: really long time, and it's you know, it's putting two
Speaker 3: and two together and you can come to the conclusion
Speaker 3: that people would have seen drones all over the place
Speaker 3: for many years prior to this, but it's just now
Speaker 3: hitting like the public because they're in really large swarms,
Speaker 3: and people are saying that they're multi collared and that
Speaker 3: they stopped the plane from landing or what was it
Speaker 3: a a plane? Was it a helicopter or a plane
Speaker 3: or something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were talking about that, and this is a
Speaker 5: great example of how stories get blown out of proportion.
Speaker 5: There was a medical helicopter that was coming into land
Speaker 5: and because there were drones in the area, they said
Speaker 5: that they didn't think it was safe to land, and
Speaker 5: so they diverted the helicopter. That was the story I read.
Speaker 5: Then you get the conspiracy theorists who are not connected
Speaker 5: to this dimension that I'm living in or you're living in,
Speaker 5: and they say the helicopter was delivering life saving medical
Speaker 5: supplies and the aliens wanted to stop them, so they
Speaker 5: chased the helicopter down. And I'm looking through the room, like,
Speaker 5: where does it say that in the reports? I don't
Speaker 5: see that anywhere. That's how that's how stories get spread,
Speaker 5: that's how fake stories get spread.
Speaker 3: Well, We have a new video out of the White
Speaker 3: House actually commenting on this Chinese spible that happened yesterday.
Speaker 3: Let's listen to that really quickly. Oh, this is the
Speaker 3: wrong one. This is the Chinese spible loom whereas.
Speaker 5: Well, you pull that up it says that. So there
Speaker 5: are two stories I heard last night and today that
Speaker 5: the White House said these are manned, legally operated drones,
Speaker 5: which would without saying who's doing it, would be an
Speaker 5: accurate assessment. They are manned, they are human, they are military,
Speaker 5: and they're legally operated because the military has the legal
Speaker 5: jurisdiction to do it. So they are manned, legally operated drones.
Speaker 5: Now the state of New Jersey is saying, well, that's
Speaker 5: not necessarily what we were told. We were told something different.
Speaker 5: So I don't know if that's part of the disinformation
Speaker 5: or if there's also some psychological experiment happening here, because
Speaker 5: as you know, writer, it's very bizarre that these drones,
Speaker 5: of all the places in the world, and of all
Speaker 5: the places in the US, and of all the places
Speaker 5: into Jersey, they just happened to be swarming right in
Speaker 5: the area where the nineteen thirty eight World of the
Speaker 5: War broadcast was supposedly taking place.
Speaker 3: That's so interesting. So this was a statement from the
Speaker 3: White House yesterday. It was on December twelfth. This listem
Speaker 3: to what they have to say.
Speaker 9: I just want to add a few comments on the
Speaker 9: reports of drone activity here on the East Coast, particularly
Speaker 9: in and around New Jersey. We have no evidence at
Speaker 9: this time that the reported drone sightings pose a national
Speaker 9: security or a public safety threat, or have a foreign
Speaker 9: in nexus the Department.
Speaker 3: There you go. You just dispelled the foreign idea that
Speaker 3: this is Iran or China. About the thing about the
Speaker 3: Chinese spy balloon just a year prior. I mean, did
Speaker 3: China suffer any kind of repercussions for sending Chinese spy
Speaker 3: balloons into the United States?
Speaker 5: Absolutely good? Oh, I was saying to be objective, meant
Speaker 5: I did mention on my show that, Okay, maybe if
Speaker 5: the drone project Convergence isn't and I'm not saying it's
Speaker 5: that particular project, I'm just saying, in that project, the
Speaker 5: drones had the capabilities of what were seen in New Jersey.
Speaker 5: So it's probably the same tech or an extension of
Speaker 5: that project. But if if it wasn't that and the
Speaker 5: military were not engaging these things, and they thought that
Speaker 5: they might be hostile or whatever the case might be.
Speaker 5: They thought that they might have payloads, which these drones
Speaker 5: reportedly do in Project Convergence. The military also didn't react
Speaker 5: to the spy balloon, so it would make sense that
Speaker 5: even if they weren't sure what they were legitimately and
Speaker 5: it wasn't a drone program run by the military, the
Speaker 5: military might be told not to engage them anyway because
Speaker 5: they might know that, yeah, these are Chinese, we don't
Speaker 5: want to shoot them down. It's okay, because they did
Speaker 5: do the same thing I mentioned on my show with
Speaker 5: the spy balloon, Like you're saying they just didn't do
Speaker 5: They just wait until it got out of the ocean
Speaker 5: and then said, oh, we were worried that it could
Speaker 5: have landed on somebody and hurt somebody, which is kind of,
Speaker 5: you know, the equivalent of being like, you got bombers
Speaker 5: coming in during war and you're like, well, we don't
Speaker 5: want to shoot the bombers down because they might cause damage.
Speaker 5: We'd rather just then drop the bombs. It doesn't really
Speaker 5: make any sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's been people talking about, oh, well, why
Speaker 3: doesn't the government just shoot down these drones. Well, if
Speaker 3: it's their own product and it's their drones, why would
Speaker 3: they shoot down their own drones unless they want to
Speaker 3: create this idea that it's a foreign you know, which,
Speaker 3: That's what they did with the Chinese SPI balloon. They
Speaker 3: eventually shot that down after weeks of it roaming around
Speaker 3: the United States.
Speaker 5: They shut it down over the water they gave them.
Speaker 5: They have all these excuses to let it fly across
Speaker 5: the country and take pictures of sensitive military installations, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, let's finish this.
Speaker 9: Security and the FBI are investigating these sightings and they're
Speaker 9: working closely with state and local law enforcement to provide
Speaker 9: resources using numerous detection methods to better understand their origin.
Speaker 9: Using very sophisticated electronic detection technologies provided by federal authorities,
Speaker 9: we have not been able to, and neither have state
Speaker 9: or local law enforcement of authorities, corroborate any of the
Speaker 9: reported visual sightings. To the contrary, upon review of available imagery,
Speaker 9: it appears that many of the reported sightings are actually
Speaker 9: manned aircraft that are being operated lawfully. The United States
Speaker 9: Coast Guard is providing so.
Speaker 3: He's saying that these are manned aircraft, that they're not
Speaker 3: even drone. See, this is the whole confusion of this
Speaker 3: entire thing. Like a drone implies nobody is inside of
Speaker 3: the craft, that it's an autonomous vehicle that's been controlled
Speaker 3: by somebody on the ground. That's what a drone is.
Speaker 3: I've never heard of a drone something that's considered a
Speaker 3: drone that has somebody inside of the drone operating it.
Speaker 3: So you have all of these different angles. You got
Speaker 3: that it's a drone swarmed, that I ran launched this
Speaker 3: giant mothership off of the East coast and dispatched all
Speaker 3: these different drones. You have that it's aliens, this alien technology,
Speaker 3: that it's UFOs is truly unidentified. But then if it's unidentified,
Speaker 3: then how do we know that it's drones. And also
Speaker 3: he's saying that it's manned aircraft.
Speaker 5: Yes, see, then you'd have to ask what do they
Speaker 5: mean by manned aircraft? Because I read in reading those
Speaker 5: articles about drones and doing my show on it, I
Speaker 5: read that drones sometimes are classified as being manned because
Speaker 5: if they're not fully autonomous and somebody has to fly them,
Speaker 5: then they are technically manned, like somebody is controlling them,
Speaker 5: even if it's from the ground. So that could be
Speaker 5: another I guess it would depend on how they define
Speaker 5: manned right. Man could be you're in the drone, or
Speaker 5: you're in the ship, or you're in the plane, or
Speaker 5: man could be that someone's actually controlling them. I think
Speaker 5: that the word legal is really interesting, that they're being
Speaker 5: legally operated. I don't know how you could legally operate
Speaker 5: something over a military base without violating the airspace and
Speaker 5: without being shot down unless the military is operating, and
Speaker 5: then they would be legally operating.
Speaker 3: That's a freaking quagmire right there. That would be the
Speaker 3: only way that it would make sense. I don't think
Speaker 3: the mirror you could go by a drone from Best
Speaker 3: Buy and then take it over the top of any
Speaker 3: military base without it being immediately shot.
Speaker 5: Down exactly, or without you being arrested.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's even some laws in some states you're
Speaker 3: not allowed to like fly drones in around any kind
Speaker 3: of like private yeah property.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they had issues just in Orlando, Florida, because people
Speaker 5: were flying little drones that you can buy at the
Speaker 5: store into apartment complex windows and watching people get naked
Speaker 5: and change their clothes, or watching people in their home
Speaker 5: cooking dinner, and just like spying. Just they were just
Speaker 5: regular people playing with drones, like spying on people in
Speaker 5: their apartments.
Speaker 9: All right, this is about to be over support to
Speaker 9: the State of New Jersey and has confirmed that there
Speaker 9: is no evidence of any foreign based involvement from coastal vessels.
Speaker 9: And importantly, there are no reported or confirmed drone sightings
Speaker 9: in any restricted airspace.
Speaker 5: I see. That's completely contrary to what was initially reported
Speaker 5: by law enforcement and by the state government that they
Speaker 5: were over military installations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is apparently they can't confirm based off
Speaker 3: of what he said that they can't even confirm the
Speaker 3: idea that there were even any drones.
Speaker 5: Again to bend how to find drones. You know what
Speaker 5: I think is really interesting writer about that term. You'll
Speaker 5: know this as much as anybody else who's ever studied ufology.
Speaker 5: All the audience, I think this will just click automatically
Speaker 5: when you talk about UFOs and who pilots the UFOs,
Speaker 5: if they are piloted, and who does the experiments on
Speaker 5: people when they're abducted little gray aliens, And what's the
Speaker 5: most common I'd say one of the most top two,
Speaker 5: top three most common theories about what the grays are.
Speaker 5: They're drones, they're synthetic beings that are drones, and that
Speaker 5: they're controlled by some other race of aliens, and that
Speaker 5: these little gray drones are sent here in spaceships to
Speaker 5: monitor or to experiment, or to take DNA or SAM
Speaker 5: or something to that effect, because organic life, that's the theory,
Speaker 5: can't travel that far or can't travel through the wormhole
Speaker 5: or whatever, so they send little gray drones here to
Speaker 5: do their dirty work for them, or to do their
Speaker 5: scientific experiments for them. That's I'm not saying, that's what
Speaker 5: I believe. I'm saying that's a big theory and eufology,
Speaker 5: and it has been for a very long time, decades
Speaker 5: and decades and decades, and so what would even if
Speaker 5: they were flying saucers, classic flying saucers with little gray
Speaker 5: aliens inside of them, they would be manned drones. So
Speaker 5: that is a weird thing that I noticed about the
Speaker 5: way that these terms are being used and the talk
Speaker 5: about drones versus UFO alien spaceships and what do you
Speaker 5: make of that?
Speaker 3: Well, that is a really interesting concept because that's what
Speaker 3: I think as well, let's say aliens do exist and
Speaker 3: there's several of them out there on other planets. They
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to just come here in the normal
Speaker 3: body that they have on these other planets. Our atmosphere
Speaker 3: is completely different. Everything about our Earth, our sun, and
Speaker 3: everything is completely different. So they would need to send
Speaker 3: some kind of entity like you're mentioning, like a drone
Speaker 3: type of being that is probably synthetic, in order to
Speaker 3: escavate and surveil the planet because they can't actually come
Speaker 3: on their own. I mean, if you believe in the
Speaker 3: alien hypothesis, that's I think a very good argument in
Speaker 3: len Earthling brings up that if they come out of
Speaker 3: if they come out of the water returning into the water,
Speaker 3: then they belong to a breakaway civilization living in the oceans,
Speaker 3: very dangerous human beings who also live on the planet,
Speaker 3: And that's another hypothesis that makes more sense than space aliens.
Speaker 3: I think that if aliens do exist, they would live
Speaker 3: on the planet and they have been here for a
Speaker 3: really long time in the best place to be would
Speaker 3: probably be inside of the ocean. And supposedly there are
Speaker 3: reports of this type of activity happening with these drones
Speaker 3: people have reported, you know, that these drones are going
Speaker 3: in and out of the water, but again there's no
Speaker 3: evidence and no proof. And we just had that UFO
Speaker 3: congressional hearing a couple of weeks ago where the entire
Speaker 3: congressional hearing was basically about these drones, these USOS, how
Speaker 3: they go come in and out of the water. So
Speaker 3: I mean that just happened a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 3: well probably around a month ago, that US congressional hearing
Speaker 3: on that. So it could be people trying to they
Speaker 3: heard something on congressional hearing and then they say that
Speaker 3: these drones were also coming in and out of the water.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, there's actually a couple of different ways we
Speaker 5: could look at that. So there are people that have
Speaker 5: seen in daylight something come out of the water and
Speaker 5: then go back into the water later or right way way.
Speaker 5: So that's a different situation than if somebody were to
Speaker 5: at night on the coast very dark. It's already hard
Speaker 5: to see, you know, out on the horizon what's out
Speaker 5: there in the ocean. So if it's night out and
Speaker 5: you can't see much, and then you see these drones
Speaker 5: or whatever you want to call them, flying around and
Speaker 5: they come up out of nowhere, out over the ocean,
Speaker 5: and they fly over in New Jersey and they go back.
Speaker 5: You could say, oh, well, they came out of the ocean. Well,
Speaker 5: if you can't really make out what's happening out there
Speaker 5: in the dark on the water, it could very well
Speaker 5: be a dark ship, a military ship that's on the
Speaker 5: water that you can't see that the drones are being
Speaker 5: launched from. Or perhaps they're launching them from something that's
Speaker 5: not even as big as a shit. Maybe they have
Speaker 5: more of like a barge out there. I don't know,
Speaker 5: but it's the concept of like if you took if
Speaker 5: you took a large rock. I talked about this actually
Speaker 5: on a recent show I did with Stephen Meyers about
Speaker 5: the Great Pyramid of Giza and about it being a
Speaker 5: water pump, and we were talking about they used to
Speaker 5: have this retaining wall around the pyramid that's confirmed historical fact,
Speaker 5: and a limestone casing and the stones and the blocks
Speaker 5: are water tight. So it's an interesting theory proposed back
Speaker 5: in the sixties. And with these large retaining walls, there
Speaker 5: certainly was references in the historical records to water filling
Speaker 5: in that space from the nile around the pyramid. So
Speaker 5: my point is if you did not understand engineering, and
Speaker 5: if you did not understand how whatever the engineers were
Speaker 5: doing there on the plateau, they would have water, and
Speaker 5: they would have a barge with this huge giant block,
Speaker 5: some of them up to sixty tons more so for
Speaker 5: the main chambers, and you would see it doing what
Speaker 5: floating on the water. Now, if you didn't really understand
Speaker 5: what was happening, just theoretically, if you can understand what's happening,
Speaker 5: you would say that the stone or the rock or
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it, the big block is floating.
Speaker 5: And so there are stories. People tell these stories. I
Speaker 5: don't know where the references are, but they tell stories
Speaker 5: about how in Egypt they built the pyramids by levitating
Speaker 5: the stones. Well that's probably pretty accurate because they did
Speaker 5: levitate them, just on water. They didn't wave a wand
Speaker 5: and they just went whoa up in the air. But
Speaker 5: they were on water. So it's the same kind of
Speaker 5: a thing like if you see a drone or something
Speaker 5: a light come out of nowhere over the water, fly
Speaker 5: around and go back, oh my god, that came out
Speaker 5: of the water. Well that's assuming that it came out
Speaker 5: of the water. You know, if I'm standing like when
Speaker 5: I was in Tokyo, if I look out over the
Speaker 5: water and I'm just looking, and I went to the
Speaker 5: beach and I'm looking and looking and looking, and then
Speaker 5: suddenly here comes a plane. The plane didn't come out
Speaker 5: of the water. It came from I can't see. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so there could be a ship out there. This stuff, again,
Speaker 5: is happening at night. It might be happening during the day,
Speaker 5: but you would probably see them, you know, it's be
Speaker 5: a lot easier to see them. So whatever these things are,
Speaker 5: they probably are drones because they're coming at night. They
Speaker 5: have their lights on. If they didn't have lights on
Speaker 5: during the day, or if they did, you could see
Speaker 5: them either way, So it's probably. Again, I maintain that
Speaker 5: it's military, and I think that it's different. This is
Speaker 5: a different situation than there being a breakaway civilization, because yes,
Speaker 5: people do see in broad daylight things literally come out
Speaker 5: of the water, like right out of the water. But
Speaker 5: if it's a nighttime you can't really tell what's going on.
Speaker 5: Then you don't really know. Because there was a report
Speaker 5: of fifty or more drones coming in from the coast
Speaker 5: and they don't know where they came from. Probably a
Speaker 5: military black ship is what I would guess.
Speaker 3: Well, they don't know. I don't understand. If this has
Speaker 3: been happening since two thousand and nineteen, then I don't
Speaker 3: understand how they don't know where they came from. That
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. But Gnarla Sheen, thank you very
Speaker 3: much for your contribution to the show. The five dollars.
Speaker 3: Super Chatty says they can They can't confirm, nor did not.
Speaker 3: Ah No, they can't. Thank you, brother for your support
Speaker 3: of the show raised by white hats all the time. Brother,
Speaker 3: thank you the Yeah, that's like the whole thing about
Speaker 3: this is like it's confused, and like what just Tony
Speaker 3: just said is denied. Delay off your skate.
Speaker 5: Like, well, we were talking the other day off off
Speaker 5: of air. We were talking just as friends on the phone,
Speaker 5: and we got into a conversation. I was talking about
Speaker 5: moving overseas and I know you remember me saying this,
Speaker 5: and I actually wrote this down because I wanted to
Speaker 5: do a show on it. And I said, it seems
Speaker 5: like here in the United States, for some reason, we
Speaker 5: try to do things in the most complicated, totally unnecessarily complicated, expensive,
Speaker 5: wasteful way that is humanly possible. Like you have to
Speaker 5: sit down and think, how can I waste how can
Speaker 5: I how can I do this in the most inefficient
Speaker 5: way possible. Then you look at other countries and you're like,
Speaker 5: I don't get it. They're supposed to be less advanced
Speaker 5: than us, and yet they can figure things out that
Speaker 5: our country acts like we don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5: Like you got a Boeing Boeing people, two different people
Speaker 5: at Boeing, Barnett and Dean, two guys assassinated as they're
Speaker 5: giving testimony, just bang and ope he got the other
Speaker 5: guy got a bacterial infection and die and we're just like, oh,
Speaker 5: that's no big deal, there's nothing funky going on there. Well,
Speaker 5: it's probably pretty clear that they were assassinated. And I
Speaker 5: think the same thing with this Brian Thompson guy. It's
Speaker 5: the mindset of like nothing strange goes on, We're just
Speaker 5: living in a We're living in a country where our
Speaker 5: leaders just can't figure things out. It's like you're telling
Speaker 5: me that we have the technology in the palm of
Speaker 5: our hand that is supposedly more advanced than anything else.
Speaker 5: The military even had in the sixties or seventies or eighties.
Speaker 5: Now we have that in our hand, But you can
Speaker 5: tell me what's flying around in the sky. That's total, utter,
Speaker 5: ridiculous nonsense. It's as nonsensical as going to the store
Speaker 5: and looking at what's in the food and looking at
Speaker 5: all the food colorings and asking yourself, why are these
Speaker 5: in the food when like one hundred plus countries ban them.
Speaker 5: Why is it in the United States we don't know
Speaker 5: that food collerings FDNC food colorings are really really toxic
Speaker 5: and cause hyperactivity, etc. We play dumb. We do things
Speaker 5: in the most inefficient, wasteful, ridiculous ways and then play
Speaker 5: dumb about it. They know exactly what these things are,
Speaker 5: and the people that don't know what they are, it's
Speaker 5: because they're not being told what they are. But somebody
Speaker 5: somewhere knows, because the military is probably operating them, and
Speaker 5: there's probably a handful of people at the Defense Department
Speaker 5: that know exactly what these things are. They're seeing how
Speaker 5: the public in the case of New Jersey, I think,
Speaker 5: reacts to what's going on. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: It is ridiculous the way that we operate here in
Speaker 3: the United States compare it to a there they done. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, well, you know, I mean, it's unbelievable
Speaker 3: that the FDA just now you don't put fluoride as
Speaker 3: a human carson the gen. I mean, we've known that
Speaker 3: that's been a human carson the gen for freaking over
Speaker 3: over seventy years now, Like, I don't understand how. And
Speaker 3: they played dumb with that too. They were like, oh well,
Speaker 3: we didn't know, Like, what do you mean you didn't Maybe.
Speaker 5: They don't know every hip, every crunchy hippie don't shave
Speaker 5: your armpits person knew that thirty forty years ago. What
Speaker 5: do you mean you didn't know. It's like it's like
Speaker 5: there was a I wish I could find it right
Speaker 5: it was. It was so good. There was something here
Speaker 5: in Tucson from the local government, and they said, you know,
Speaker 5: we're not really sure why there's so much trash everywhere.
Speaker 5: We're not really sure why things are so dirty, and
Speaker 5: there's all this graffiti, and there's all these homeless people
Speaker 5: and all this drug use. We're not really sure. We're
Speaker 5: we're gonna we're gonna try to look into figuring out
Speaker 5: why the crime rates out of control. And why there's
Speaker 5: trash everywhere. We're gonna try to figure This is twenty
Speaker 5: twenty four and we have government officials saying, I can't
Speaker 5: figure out how to put that trash in that can.
Speaker 5: I really don't know how to do it. We got
Speaker 5: to like consult other countries to get other people from
Speaker 5: other parts of the world to come in and show them. Hey,
Speaker 5: that trash goes in the can. And it's like it's
Speaker 5: like idiocracy. The Americans trying to put the square in
Speaker 5: the circular hole for the IQ test, they're just it's
Speaker 5: not fitting. And then the guy sitting right next to him,
Speaker 5: he's just looking at them, like, what is happening. It
Speaker 5: goes in. It's the square in the square, the circle
Speaker 5: in the circle. We play dumb. I don't know how
Speaker 5: to throw trash away. We don't know why there's drug
Speaker 5: use every we don't know why there's crime, we don't
Speaker 5: know what's in the sky. We have no idea. We
Speaker 5: just played dumb about everything.
Speaker 3: Tony brings up a good point here. The guy literally say,
Speaker 3: they go dark, give you a billion dollars and forget
Speaker 3: to order a night vision. What do they mean that
Speaker 3: they disappear? Yeah, Well, yeah, when they don't they have
Speaker 3: thermoy imaging camera. Doesn't the military has THERMOI imaging cameras, right,
Speaker 3: they would be able to see anything in the sky
Speaker 3: and figure out exactly what it is by high advanced
Speaker 3: THERMOI imaging camera.
Speaker 5: Call Stephen Kreer. He's got him for sale. Ten fifteen thousand.
Speaker 5: He'll hook you up with a pair right now.
Speaker 3: Those military grade night vision goggles. Bro, youre telling me
Speaker 3: that the military don't have those.
Speaker 5: Stephen Hurr's got a pair. I guarantee you the military's
Speaker 5: got a pair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ten thousand buccaroos. Dude, you can get your own
Speaker 3: pair of military grade night vision garments.
Speaker 5: Well. See, that's there's another question about Can you bring
Speaker 5: that comment back up? Yeap, isn't another question about that.
Speaker 5: So they said they go dark, okay, the nut may or,
Speaker 5: the governor of excuse me, the governor of New Jersey
Speaker 5: said they go dark. Okay. Well, nobody asked, what do
Speaker 5: you mean they go dark? So what does that mean?
Speaker 5: It means they disappear totally, or it means the lights
Speaker 5: shut off. Because there's a difference, because if they disappear
Speaker 5: entirely and they can't see them in thermal imaging, that
Speaker 5: we're dealing with something totally different. But if the lights
Speaker 5: just go out when another drone approaches them, we're just
Speaker 5: probably dealing with AI powered drones that are being trained
Speaker 5: or something of that that equivalent. Nobody the point was,
Speaker 5: nobody asked the governor what do you mean they go dark?
Speaker 5: You mean like they disappear totally or the lights just
Speaker 5: shut off, because.
Speaker 3: That's another really strange thing. Ryan instead of asking any
Speaker 3: rational follow up question to this, UH to the White
Speaker 3: House representative making this speech, one of the questions were, well,
Speaker 3: is the United States? Is the United States thinking about
Speaker 3: banning drones?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: Why is that? Your first question to any like the
Speaker 3: first response is we need to completely get rid of drones.
Speaker 3: We need to ban outright bann drones. Just get rid
Speaker 3: of them, throw throw them to the side, because we
Speaker 3: don't know what they are. Like, there's no other prying
Speaker 3: questions about it. There wasn't any one like you mentioned
Speaker 3: how do they go dark? Do they conmpletely disappear, or
Speaker 3: do they just turn their lights off? There's not any
Speaker 3: of these sophisticated, in depth follow up questions that has
Speaker 3: to do with what the person is saying it's just, ah, well,
Speaker 3: we need to ban it, or is the United States?
Speaker 3: Is the Biden administration thinking about banning drones? Like what
Speaker 3: we believe?
Speaker 5: We have such an unbelievably dystopian reliance on government. When
Speaker 5: anything happens, the government needs to ban it. You know,
Speaker 5: there's a gun shot you hear in your neighborhood, The
Speaker 5: government should ban guns. You know, when something happens with
Speaker 5: the car, oh, we should probably, we should probably ban
Speaker 5: ban this particular type of car because of the way
Speaker 5: that people crash in it. We want to ban everything.
Speaker 5: It's just such an immature way of dealing with real life.
Speaker 5: I did not know that ban banned the drones. Ban
Speaker 5: the drones. I'm sure lots of people are advocating for that.
Speaker 5: We got to ban drones. Why don't we try to
Speaker 5: figure out what it is first?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's literally what they I closed out the article,
Speaker 3: but if we would have read later on, just like
Speaker 3: in the next paragraph of that article that I just
Speaker 3: brought up. In the White House representative giving the briefing
Speaker 3: about the drones, literally the next paragraph said that a
Speaker 3: reporter asked him if we should ban drones. Now in
Speaker 3: the United States.
Speaker 5: You know what that's like? That's the was it? Bill Clinton?
Speaker 5: Mister president, I got another question for you boxers or briefs.
Speaker 5: Ha ha ha ha, so funny. That's the kind of
Speaker 5: questions our reporters asked. Yeah, and then you go there
Speaker 5: you go, Jackie. We need legislation for drones exactly. Anytime
Speaker 5: anything happens, we need a law. We need another law.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ban ban propellers, triggers and magnets. We need to
Speaker 3: get rid of ye ban it all. Uh ban the cars.
Speaker 3: Everyone starts walking. Which is really interesting that what you
Speaker 3: talk about with you know, living in Japan, like no
Speaker 3: one knowns vehicles are in because they have a more
Speaker 3: efficient way rare transportation. Like there's public transportation on like
Speaker 3: freaking bullet trains.
Speaker 5: It's very very rare for most people don't have cars
Speaker 5: yet because it's efficient transportation and the great thing is
Speaker 5: it's clean and safe and uh you know, I just
Speaker 5: being in Japan, I was thinking, how does the US
Speaker 5: not have this? We just dropped one hundred bill on
Speaker 5: Ukraine and we can't build a train. Aren't trains really
Speaker 5: old in the Chinese? Build the train tracks in America?
Speaker 5: Like we used to have trains, and then we just
Speaker 5: forgot about trains. I don't understand.
Speaker 3: Ban the trains. How many trained a realments ban them?
Speaker 5: Well, actually, yeah that I'm pretty sure people said that
Speaker 5: after East Palestine Rider, We've got to ban these. We've
Speaker 5: gotta ban these chemical shipments. We've got to ban the
Speaker 5: food shipments. We've gotta It's just total. I mean, we
Speaker 5: are It's no wonder the world laughs at us. We
Speaker 5: are insane. This country is out of its mind.
Speaker 3: Band sending tax money to private corporation power to fund
Speaker 3: these craft that would actually be a good band. I
Speaker 3: mean if they are indeed military, you know, surveillance craft. Definitely.
Speaker 5: Band words, ban words, ban radio shows, censor people anything
Speaker 5: we don't like, just ban it. We're gonna ban. We're
Speaker 5: eventually gonna ban everything. We're just gonna be in straight
Speaker 5: jackets in a black and white room, and you won't
Speaker 5: be able to move or say anything, or to think
Speaker 5: because it's all going to be banned. That's illegal. You
Speaker 5: can't pill an orange like that because that offends somebody.
Speaker 5: You gotta pill it another way, or it's illegal to
Speaker 5: pill an orange with your hands. You gotta use a knife.
Speaker 5: It's ridiculous stuff. Ridiculous stuff.
Speaker 3: No machine had another five dollars super trying to thanks
Speaker 3: for your support, he says, they go dark means no
Speaker 3: more questions about this.
Speaker 5: Topic and means that's that's that's good.
Speaker 3: In early we go dark because we're going dark. We're
Speaker 3: not talking about this anymore.
Speaker 5: Zero dark thirty, zero dark thirty.
Speaker 3: Baby. Yes, thank you, darling. She appreciate your support of
Speaker 3: the channel raised by white House. So I want to
Speaker 3: listen to this, uh this other the Chinese spire balloon report,
Speaker 3: to see if we can see any more.
Speaker 5: Ban those two banned weather balloons too.
Speaker 3: Weather balloons they were responsible for oswell there were, they're
Speaker 3: responsible for all this stuff. We need to we need
Speaker 3: to ban. We need to give weather balloons out of
Speaker 3: the out of the country. Let me find this where
Speaker 3: is it? I got so many.
Speaker 5: Times you know what I noticed while you're looking that up.
Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta mention something to you. I can't
Speaker 5: say this for sure because I didn't buy a ton
Speaker 5: of stuff that was packaged while I was in Japan,
Speaker 5: but I did notice something in Japan. There were very
Speaker 5: very few things that I did buy, like I have
Speaker 5: some norriwed I bought in Tokyo in my kitchen right now,
Speaker 5: and the and the little you know, the little moisture
Speaker 5: absorber pack it does not it does not say, does
Speaker 5: not say don't eat this because the Japanese know not
Speaker 5: to eat the moisture absorber. But the seaweed I just
Speaker 5: bought at the store the other day here in Tucson,
Speaker 5: there's writing all over it, do not eat, do not cook,
Speaker 5: do not put in your mouth because Americans don't know
Speaker 5: to not eat the moisture absorber.
Speaker 3: Do they not know or do they think that we're
Speaker 3: just stupid? Like I'm pretty sure that people know not
Speaker 3: to eat the packaging. And but but that's like maybe
Speaker 3: that's like a car manual like now, like remember like
Speaker 3: back in the day, you would get like a car
Speaker 3: manual and it would tell you basically how to fix
Speaker 3: your car. Well, car manuals now do not tell you
Speaker 3: any of It's basically like do not drink the oil,
Speaker 3: don't drink the gas that you put in your car.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I know that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: So m but we're going to listen to this a
Speaker 3: little bit of this news broadcast with this Chinese spy
Speaker 3: balloon that happened roughly around a year ago to this
Speaker 3: very did in twenty twenty three, to see if we
Speaker 3: can see any resemblance as to what was going on
Speaker 3: back then and what's going on now.
Speaker 10: Remember that Chinese spy balloon that drifted over Alaska and
Speaker 10: across the continental United States before being shot down off
Speaker 10: the South Carolina coast earlier this year. While we are
Speaker 10: learning even more about.
Speaker 3: It right now about how it worked.
Speaker 10: The exclusive NBC News reporting coming in shows the US
Speaker 10: intelligence officials have determined that balloon used an American Internet
Speaker 10: service provider to send and receive communications back to China.
Speaker 10: That's according to two current and one former US official
Speaker 10: familiar with the intelligence assessment. Joining me now is NBC
Speaker 10: News Aaron Gilcrest, who's traveling with President Biden in the
Speaker 10: US Virgin Islands. Aaron, some surprise stuff here. Walk us
Speaker 10: through this exclusive NBC reporting. That's so interesting that so
Speaker 10: it was using an American Internet technology to transferred data.
Speaker 3: Back to China.
Speaker 5: Of course it was.
Speaker 3: I mean, you wouldn't have to, it would kind of
Speaker 3: that would mean that Yeah, yeah, you put two and
Speaker 3: two together to realize what that means.
Speaker 5: You remember, you remember like what Ten years ago, it
Speaker 5: wasn't considered acceptable. People would laugh at you if you
Speaker 5: said your phone spies on you. Now people openly select
Speaker 5: the kind of advertisement that they want to appear on
Speaker 5: their on their phone. Oh it's good that it spies
Speaker 5: on me, because I'd rather have advertisements for Little CC's
Speaker 5: rather than Dominoes, or Little Caesars rather than Dominoes. I'd
Speaker 5: rather have, you know, advertisements for Walmart rather than Target.
Speaker 5: We've gone within it within less than a generation from
Speaker 5: denying that it even exists to becoming a part of
Speaker 5: it and being like, yeah, it's totally cool. AT and
Speaker 5: T has like eight spy centers in the US that
Speaker 5: are like these private centers where they gather and go
Speaker 5: through and sift through all the data. That's mainline news.
Speaker 5: There's back doors built into your Apple phone. Admittedly by
Speaker 5: the NSA. This is just mainline news. Of course, that
Speaker 5: used an Internet provider that was a US provider. They
Speaker 5: worked with the Chinese is a one. It's not we
Speaker 5: act like things in America are just America. Now. These
Speaker 5: are multinational corporations that have deals all over the world.
Speaker 5: They're working with the Chinese just as much as they're
Speaker 5: working with our government.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like, you know, you bring up a
Speaker 3: really good point with the phone because I remember when
Speaker 3: that started happening and people were like denying it, and
Speaker 3: they were like, yeah, they're definitely not, you know, spying
Speaker 3: on your phone. They can't listen to your conversations. And
Speaker 3: then I think the social media thing is going to
Speaker 3: go the way of like paid, paid subscription based social
Speaker 3: media accounts, Like you're going to have to pay for
Speaker 3: face but just like how you kind of have to
Speaker 3: pay for X now in order to go live on
Speaker 3: X you have to pay a subscription every month, But
Speaker 3: all of the social medias are going to eventually turn
Speaker 3: into that because they've gotten all of the information on
Speaker 3: pretty much everybody for this certain amount of time with
Speaker 3: the ads, and I mean, like you scroll through Facebook now, dude,
Speaker 3: and it's just like nothing but ads. You can hardly
Speaker 3: see what anybody posts. It's all ads. And I think
Speaker 3: that they're going to be doing some kind of thing
Speaker 3: in the future where you know, you have to pay
Speaker 3: to use all of these social media apps, which is
Speaker 3: then going to get rid of the ads, because that's
Speaker 3: what Elon Musk just did with the With X you
Speaker 3: pay for X and you get rid of all the
Speaker 3: ads on X, and which is also a way to
Speaker 3: not have advertisers, you know, funding your social media network.
Speaker 3: So therefore they can't influence what's actually on the social
Speaker 3: media network because the user base is actually paying to
Speaker 3: use the social media.
Speaker 5: That's a good point.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into this a little bit more so, Steven.
Speaker 11: As we understand it, this assessment that was done by
Speaker 11: the US intelligence community says that this balloon connected to
Speaker 11: a US based Internet service provider as it was moving
Speaker 11: across the continental United States, and the purpose was to
Speaker 11: be able to send and receive information from China communications information,
Speaker 11: primarily navigational information, as we understand it from this assessment,
Speaker 11: in these really short transmission bursts as it was moving
Speaker 11: from west to east here across the United States. The Administration,
Speaker 11: according to this reporting and sources, tried to get a
Speaker 11: court order from this highly secret FIZA court as it's
Speaker 11: called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, and the point there
Speaker 11: was to be able to collect electronic information from the
Speaker 11: balloon intelligence information while it was over the United States.
Speaker 11: We don't know at this point whether the administration was
Speaker 11: actually able to get that court order. The company that
Speaker 11: was the Internet service provider that we're not naming in
Speaker 11: order to protect some of our sources here denied that
Speaker 11: the balloon was able to connect to its network, and
Speaker 11: that was based on its own investigation. As you might imagine,
Speaker 11: the US government, different departments in the government are not
Speaker 11: commenting on this story at this point. We do know
Speaker 11: in the past that the Pentagon, for example, said that
Speaker 11: it protected sensitive sites. It was able to protect sensitive
Speaker 11: government sites as the balloon was moving across the United States,
Speaker 11: covering up vehicles or planes or other sorts of things
Speaker 11: that were on the ground as the balloon was moving
Speaker 11: across the US. The Biden administration insisted at one point
Speaker 11: that it was able to collect more information about the
Speaker 11: balloon and from the balloon than the balloon itself was
Speaker 11: able to collect about things on the ground as it
Speaker 11: was moving across the US.
Speaker 9: So we were.
Speaker 3: Able to collect more information about the balloon, But yet
Speaker 3: we called it a UFO for a couple of weeks
Speaker 3: before we discovered that it was a Chinese SPI balloon.
Speaker 3: We knew more about the balloon Ryan than what the
Speaker 3: balloon knew about what it was surveilling.
Speaker 5: Man They put these spins on things. These are these
Speaker 5: people are professional bs. I'm analyzing it right now. It's white.
Speaker 5: Look at the information we just got out of it.
Speaker 5: It's white. It's crazy, man, I had not heard that.
Speaker 5: We got more out of it than it got out
Speaker 5: of us. It's like it's like you're getting a fist
Speaker 5: fight or something. You got black eyes. You're like, oh,
Speaker 5: you should see the other guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But yet these drones that have supposedly been flying
Speaker 3: over New Jersey for five years, we don't know anything
Speaker 3: about them. We don't know nothing. But we immediately knew
Speaker 3: everything about this Chinese spy balloon. That was multiple Chinese
Speaker 3: spi balloons was flying over the continental US.
Speaker 5: Remember at that time, there were actually two other objects,
Speaker 5: one up in Canada and then one over Lake Kuran,
Speaker 5: and two of those were shot down, and they said
Speaker 5: they couldn't find initially the one and I think it
Speaker 5: was northern Canada. I forget exactly where it was. And
Speaker 5: the one over the Great Lake that one they reportedly found,
Speaker 5: and then they came out later and said, oh, that
Speaker 5: was some kind of drone being operated by a small
Speaker 5: company or something like that. But that's kind of like
Speaker 5: a Roswell story too, because they see this thing, they
Speaker 5: can't identify it. It's evading radar, it's evading you know,
Speaker 5: military craft that go to intercept it, but then they
Speaker 5: shoot it down. It's like some sticks and metal. It's
Speaker 5: like that evaded a multimillion dollar security system, a radar system,
Speaker 5: like a billion dollar jet. It's like, that's like nine
Speaker 5: to eleven stuff. Right, you know, some guys, some guys
Speaker 5: with qurans and box cutters, evaded the most advanced security
Speaker 5: apparatus the world's ever seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unbelievable that we can only know everything about
Speaker 3: spy balloons. We can't know anything about military drones. But
Speaker 3: we can look up and see that it's a that
Speaker 3: it's a balloon, so it must be a spy balloon.
Speaker 3: So if we could look up and see that it's
Speaker 3: a drone, it must be a drone. Right, that only
Speaker 3: makes logical sense.
Speaker 5: Maybe if this thing was what did they say in
Speaker 5: that video that the that the the object as it
Speaker 5: was flying over they would cover you know, planes or
Speaker 5: cover vehicles. What if that's what if that wasn't the
Speaker 5: point of the balloon floating over the country in the
Speaker 5: first place. What if they were trying to find locations
Speaker 5: that they maybe they otherwise which you could probably just
Speaker 5: find with satellites, but they wanted to find locations of
Speaker 5: certain you know, installations. They weren't interested in planes or cars.
Speaker 5: They wanted to see where things were located, the size
Speaker 5: of them. Maybe they were trying to get, like those
Speaker 5: green lasers in Hawaii, a more accurate topographical map of
Speaker 5: the country. And maybe they weren't just looking for planes
Speaker 5: and car and for cars. There's always always some kind
Speaker 5: of misdirection and ridiculous, nonsensical excuse and then the plane
Speaker 5: dumb They.
Speaker 3: Should have said that this Chinese spy balloon was as
Speaker 3: big as a Ford f one fifty to give us
Speaker 3: a better idea of the scope of how big it is,
Speaker 3: just like they did with the drones. It's the drone
Speaker 3: the size of a vehicle, the size of a car
Speaker 3: that they're just floating above New Jersey.
Speaker 5: Which are the size of those convergence drones that you showed.
Speaker 11: Yep, all right, And the assessment at this point, as
Speaker 11: we understand it, is that the blue was not able
Speaker 11: to transmit.
Speaker 3: Oh and for people that may be listening to the
Speaker 3: audio only version of the podcast. This is on the balloon,
Speaker 3: the Chinese spy balloon that happened roughly a year ago.
Speaker 3: So to clear up any confusion of what people are
Speaker 3: talking about, we're listening to this MSNBC report on the
Speaker 3: Chinese spy balloon that happened directly almost a year ago
Speaker 3: and twenty twenty three to try and get correlating information
Speaker 3: between the drones that have been spotted over New Jersey
Speaker 3: in recent.
Speaker 11: Years, any sensitive information, any intelligence back to China while
Speaker 11: it was here in the US before was shut down.
Speaker 11: We know, Stephen on the East.
Speaker 10: Coast and erin, what are these revelations? What do they
Speaker 10: mean for US China relations?
Speaker 3: Absolutely nothing.
Speaker 11: Well, you remember at the time that this was something
Speaker 11: that seemed to be further fraying relations between the two countries.
Speaker 11: The Chinese ambassador here in the US denied that this
Speaker 11: was any sort of an intel gathering balloon. Said it
Speaker 11: was a weather balloon that had just gone off course.
Speaker 3: Veered off course, that's right, voice of weather balloon. That
Speaker 3: old school technology weather balloons is veer enough course and
Speaker 3: happened to make its way for several days over the
Speaker 3: United States.
Speaker 11: Just a coincidence in the course of doing that weather
Speaker 11: information work, but the US government obviously has intelligence to
Speaker 11: the contrary. We know that the president President Biden as
Speaker 11: well as the Chinese president, she had been working on
Speaker 11: normalizing relations. There's been a re establishment of military to
Speaker 11: military communications just since the Apex summit back in November,
Speaker 11: and this is something that the government sees as vital
Speaker 11: to maintaining at least some semblance of calm between the
Speaker 11: two countries, having that military to military communication resume between
Speaker 11: the US and China.
Speaker 5: Stevens, Here's a question. I got a question for you.
Speaker 5: If it was just a weather balloon, why did they
Speaker 5: decide to shoot it down? Then wouldn't they just let
Speaker 5: it go? Why did they have to shoot it down
Speaker 5: after it made it out into the ocean? What did
Speaker 5: they shoot it down to give it back to China?
Speaker 3: And after it supposedly had been roaming around the United
Speaker 3: States for weeks they finally decided well at least days
Speaker 3: for sure, and collecting all the data, then then they
Speaker 3: shoot it down. Makes sense. It wouldn't surprise me, dude,
Speaker 3: if like something like this, what happened with these drones
Speaker 3: in the coming days. If this continues to be a
Speaker 3: topic and a story. Someone is going to shoot down
Speaker 3: one of these drones and they're going to be like, well,
Speaker 3: it really was Iran. You watch, It's going to be
Speaker 3: something like that, and they're gonna blame it on another country,
Speaker 3: just like they did with this Chinese spy balloon thing.
Speaker 3: If that is, if it continues to be a popular
Speaker 3: story and it continues to happen. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: it's kind of like there were many reports of you know,
Speaker 3: people that were shooting at the weather balloon, like civilians
Speaker 3: and like citizens that they were trying to take down
Speaker 3: this weather balloon before or the government decided to shoot
Speaker 3: it down.
Speaker 5: You remember, the excuse it was because they didn't want
Speaker 5: to injure anybody, which is a very weird thing to say,
Speaker 5: considering where the balloon was traveling, and that was like
Speaker 5: ninety eight percent of the place as it went. We're
Speaker 5: completely desolate, because most of this country is desolate. There's
Speaker 5: virtually nothing. Once you leave most major cities, little towns
Speaker 5: here and there, it's you've driven through the desert. There's nothing.
Speaker 5: You have been to South Dakota. There there I don't
Speaker 5: think there's even people in South Dakota. You know, there's
Speaker 5: nothing there, they shoot it down, collect it. It just
Speaker 5: doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the northern part of Wyoming too, is just like
Speaker 3: nothing and nothing going on there.
Speaker 5: Shoot it. That's and that's the area of the country
Speaker 5: it was in. Why not shoot it down? Like, none
Speaker 5: of the stories make whether it's the balloons or any
Speaker 5: of this stuff. Again, it's like something's evading a billion
Speaker 5: dollar aircraft radar system and then they shoot it down
Speaker 5: and oh it was some tape. It was some tape
Speaker 5: and some wooden stick from Michaels. It's like, that's what
Speaker 5: evaded the fighter jet, some sticks and some glue from
Speaker 5: Michaels the craft store. It's like, do you think that
Speaker 5: we're stupid or do people like maybe these people in
Speaker 5: government or the media, they just genuinely they're good soldiers. Sir, Yes, sir,
Speaker 5: I believe whatever I'm told. It looked like some sticks
Speaker 5: from Michaels. To me, I don't know what's going on,
Speaker 5: but we got a serious problem in this country.
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting with the Washington flap event with
Speaker 3: the UFOs over the White House, Ford gave an im
Speaker 3: media shootdown order for those crafts that were flying over
Speaker 3: the White House. Back during the Washington.
Speaker 5: Flap, oh nineteen fifty two? Yeah, you actually did you
Speaker 5: see that? There were actually reports there was a report
Speaker 5: in Washington the same time as these drones. I think
Speaker 5: it was. Was it last week? Did you see that story?
Speaker 5: There was another nineteen fifty two incident in DC?
Speaker 3: Oh? Really? What was what was that called?
Speaker 5: Type in UFO or UFO's Washington d C twenty twenty
Speaker 5: four And if you can't find.
Speaker 3: It, mysterious lights over Capital this is a daily mail
Speaker 3: or there's a New York Post article here, mysterious lights
Speaker 3: over Capitol Hill causes UFO panic in DC? Is that
Speaker 3: the correct one?
Speaker 5: Probably if it's dated this month or last late last months?
Speaker 3: Okay, il on, Yes, it is November twenty eighth, twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four. That's it, all right, pull it up here.
Speaker 3: I didn't know about this. I think I was busy
Speaker 3: doing other things, all these freaking stupid pop up ads
Speaker 3: New York posts. Mysterious lights over Capitol Hill causes UFO
Speaker 3: panic in DC? It is already happening. Oh, we got
Speaker 3: a video here.
Speaker 5: Oh look, that's that's real footage. Rider, that's that's real footage.
Speaker 3: Real footage. Oh my god, I can't.
Speaker 5: Fox News has the scoop.
Speaker 1: According to a new Harvard study, aliens might be living
Speaker 1: among us.
Speaker 3: This isn't I don't think this has anything to do.
Speaker 3: This is that Harvard exercise, which really wasn't a study
Speaker 3: that people were making a big deal.
Speaker 1: About disguised as humans. The UFO sightings we hear about
Speaker 1: those are just space ships from other planets.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's some really good footage right there. That's all.
Speaker 8: Among us.
Speaker 3: This is all stock footage from freaking uh what's that
Speaker 3: stock footage company? Uh? Yeah, shutter Stock stock UFO footage.
Speaker 3: Now I know it is because I use it for
Speaker 3: my real.
Speaker 5: Some of that they might have got some of that
Speaker 5: declassified stuff from the whistleblowers, from David Wilcock. Some of
Speaker 5: that stuff looked really legit.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, how to have been in I mean.
Speaker 1: Crypto terrestrials. They're highly advanced, incredibly deceptive, They're capable of hiding.
Speaker 5: In just like Fox News, just like CNN. Incredibly deceptive,
Speaker 5: incredibly deceptive.
Speaker 3: We can't track it. And literally all this footage is
Speaker 3: from shutter stock, Like this is a major news organization
Speaker 3: and they're just using clipped video royalty free shutter stock video.
Speaker 5: See see you know what that that is? That's exactly
Speaker 5: you and I might have done a show in this
Speaker 5: in the past. Remember we maybe maybe it wasn't, but
Speaker 5: I thought we talked about how David Wilcock used to
Speaker 5: show this kind of thing during his presentations and he
Speaker 5: would show like, Okay, this isn't this is what the
Speaker 5: underground base looks like or the underground city looks like.
Speaker 5: And I've been to some of those talks. People will
Speaker 5: literally be there in the audience like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: where's that at is? That is that Nevada? And it's
Speaker 5: just like, no, it's it's cgi. It even says it
Speaker 5: on the screen. Sometimes it's like, you know, artist artist
Speaker 5: rendering of what the base looks like, and people are
Speaker 5: writing it down, Oh my god, it's real. I can't
Speaker 5: believe it. Taking pictures of it. Oh my god, that's
Speaker 5: that's the military base underground. It's clearly stock footage. But
Speaker 5: the thing is psychologically when you tell someone we got
Speaker 5: this study, you got some weird drones flying around, and
Speaker 5: then you show them what did you call it? Shutterstock?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so literally all this stuff is shutterstock images. I see,
Speaker 3: I have I can pull it all up on my
Speaker 3: phone from shutterstock right now, and you just type in
Speaker 3: aliens into the search bar, and literally every single one
Speaker 3: of these videos that's been shown so far is on shutterstock.
Speaker 5: Your brain concludes based on that association, oh, this is
Speaker 5: the real thing. This must be real, when the real
Speaker 5: evidence of what they're talking about is actually a light
Speaker 5: in the sky that could be literally anything way off
Speaker 5: in the distance. See, it's the association with these videos
Speaker 5: or the CG things, and then the story and make
Speaker 5: us think it's real. It's really good. It's good storytelling
Speaker 5: is what it is, and it makes us think things
Speaker 5: that are not accurate, that are not true.
Speaker 3: Okay, here I'll show it to you. See you look
Speaker 3: at these that's all shutter stock alien stuff. That one
Speaker 3: right there at the bottom with it was one that
Speaker 3: they just shown one of the what's what it is?
Speaker 3: It's just stock, they're just using stock footage. But let's
Speaker 3: finish up. But what he was talking about there, that
Speaker 3: Harvard study wasn't really a Harvard study. That that was
Speaker 3: a question that was posed by a professor that was saying, well,
Speaker 3: if let's say that the aliens aren't really from space,
Speaker 3: where do you think that they would actually be and
Speaker 3: then off the top of his head, this guy said, oh, well,
Speaker 3: they could be from Earth. Like it's just an opinion
Speaker 3: that there wasn't an actual study that was done, and
Speaker 3: people take it to be like Harvard professor said that
Speaker 3: the crypto terrestrials are real and they're here and there
Speaker 3: among us. That's not what it was.
Speaker 1: He's on the origins of these crypto terrestrials. Some speculate
Speaker 1: an advanced ancient civilization was destroyed with only a few surviving.
Speaker 3: In secrets, I've used this stock footage.
Speaker 5: I use that for a promo, one time picture promo.
Speaker 5: See possibly.
Speaker 3: So Fox is so cheap that they're using footage that
Speaker 3: a lot of people already have.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because Jess Waters doesn't know what the hell he's
Speaker 5: talking about. That's why they have no idea what they're
Speaker 5: talking about.
Speaker 3: In the base on the Moon, that's the one that
Speaker 3: I just showed you.
Speaker 5: That's the Yeah, that one's the That's the one that
Speaker 5: was just.
Speaker 3: At the bottom of the screen that I just pulled up.
Speaker 3: That's the same one.
Speaker 5: We don't know for certain, And.
Speaker 3: This is also stock footage.
Speaker 1: Stock food in terrestrials are from or even if they exist.
Speaker 1: But one thing's for certain, many believers think that the
Speaker 1: government knows more than they're letting on. The Pentagon official
Speaker 1: came forward this week revealing their seven minute encounter with
Speaker 1: a glowing turquoise UFO, which gave off enough energy to
Speaker 1: power a city. That official isn't alone. More UFO whistleblowers
Speaker 1: are breaking their silence and exposing what they've seen.
Speaker 3: Watch my gosh, this is just rehashing.
Speaker 5: You know how many times am I gonna have to
Speaker 5: watch this video?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm over it. Let me see if I
Speaker 3: can just get back to this actual article.
Speaker 5: Louis Elizonda was right about one thing for sure when
Speaker 5: he said they've got like four K, super high def
Speaker 5: videos of these things, these videos that were released by
Speaker 5: the Pentagon from incidents that happened a decade or plus ago.
Speaker 5: That's that's not the real thing. He was right about that,
Speaker 5: because what they keep showing is, oh my god, look
Speaker 5: at it. The tech tac Oh my god, doesn't have propulsion.
Speaker 5: Says it's not scripted, but it almost feels scripted.
Speaker 3: It does in this article seems to be a giant
Speaker 3: set up for that. The mysterious lights over Capital will
Speaker 3: causes UFO panic in DC. It's already happening. If aliens
Speaker 3: are looking for signs of intelligence at Intelligent Life, they
Speaker 3: may have want to look elsewhere, and apparent UFO was
Speaker 3: caught hovering above Capitol Hill this week's sparking concerns that
Speaker 3: extraterrestrials could soon plan a coup. Oh my god, New
Speaker 3: York Times is talking about an alien coup January sixth.
Speaker 5: That's going to be the aliens this time.
Speaker 3: The viral snapshot shows four bright lives to early stations
Speaker 3: just several feet above the Statue of Freedom atop a
Speaker 3: Capital Dome that was reportedly taken by the US Air
Speaker 3: Force veteran and licensed tour guide Dennis Diggins. This is
Speaker 3: a reportedly the video that almost looks identical to the
Speaker 3: Washington flap event.
Speaker 5: No, I know, I know, That's why I brought it up.
Speaker 5: It's very similar.
Speaker 3: Another video taken from further away seemingly confirmed the phenomenon
Speaker 3: the same for twinkling lights maneuver from a square to
Speaker 3: a single line, but remained above the government building. The
Speaker 3: picture soon bark panic on social media, which was further
Speaker 3: wiped up considering the sightings came just a few weeks
Speaker 3: after Congress held a hearing detailing alleged secret government programs
Speaker 3: that describe alien spacecraft. It is already happening, wrote one user.
Speaker 3: This is insane, wrote another one. Yeah, that looks almost
Speaker 3: identical to the Washington flab event. Although many worried, others
Speaker 3: rushed to debunk the purported UFO siding, with at least
Speaker 3: one expert theorizing the phenomenon was nothing more than reflections
Speaker 3: in the sky. The lights to the US Capitol Building
Speaker 3: have been causing UFO sidings. This was this Lenz flair
Speaker 3: in the camera lens for decades and decades, John Greenwaal Jr.
Speaker 3: There we go. It's a good voice in the community.
Speaker 3: Research and ufologists settle next. Just lens flares, but interesting
Speaker 3: someone is passing them around again, and more so interesting
Speaker 3: people are buying it new photo, same Lenz flair phenomenon.
Speaker 3: The alleged UFO siding comes on the heels of US
Speaker 3: Senate House representative hearing from witnesses about alleged grid cash
Speaker 3: of retrieval programs, communication with non human intelligence, and government
Speaker 3: government of whistleblowers. The hearing came after the Pentagon issue
Speaker 3: to report in Marching in that I had found no
Speaker 3: evidence of extraterrestrial spacecraft, which we did an entire show
Speaker 3: on that Erro report.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, there's I got a question for you.
Speaker 5: If I if I did a study, okay, and I
Speaker 5: found in the study that something that I was selling
Speaker 5: was very poisonous, like if I was selling roundup and
Speaker 5: there was glacacy and it was very poisonous, and I
Speaker 5: knew that in the study. Well, if I published that study,
Speaker 5: or if I gave that study to the government to
Speaker 5: rubber stamp approved my product, they wouldn't because the study
Speaker 5: says that it's poisonous and dangerous, right, and I have that.
Speaker 5: I have that data. So what happens is if I
Speaker 5: decide I'm gonna lie, I will destroy the evidence and
Speaker 5: then I will make up new evidence. Where you have
Speaker 5: no evidence as proof that your product works, it's it's
Speaker 5: all good, all the reviews are good, and then you
Speaker 5: submit that to the government for the rubber stamp. So
Speaker 5: in essence, what I'm saying, writer is if you have
Speaker 5: proof of something and then you put it through a shredder,
Speaker 5: you don't have proof anymore. So that's all the government
Speaker 5: has to do, And by government I mean an individual
Speaker 5: or an agency, whatever narrative they want to create, or
Speaker 5: like a company too. All they have to do is say, well,
Speaker 5: we have no evidence. The question shouldn't be do you
Speaker 5: have evidence or not? It should be if you don't
Speaker 5: have evidence, If you have it, show us. But if
Speaker 5: you don't have evidence, why don't you have evidence? Is
Speaker 5: it because you haven't done any investigation, Like we don't
Speaker 5: have any evidence that COVID vaccine did X. Okay, well,
Speaker 5: why we don't have any evidence that this drug does
Speaker 5: X y because you didn't do the study or because
Speaker 5: you did it, found the evidence and then shredded it.
Speaker 5: That's the problem here. They have plenty of evidence, they
Speaker 5: just don't put it into the investigative report that they publish.
Speaker 5: They have plenty of evidence, they just don't speak about it,
Speaker 5: and they let it sit in an archive somewhere.
Speaker 3: That's right. And this is the Washington flap UFO event
Speaker 3: in nineteen fifty two, which looks very similar. These still
Speaker 3: shots are apparently from the History Channel. I don't know
Speaker 3: if they're real photos or not. They maybe they might
Speaker 3: not be. I don't know if anyone actually got any
Speaker 3: photos of the nineteen fifty two Washington flap UFO.
Speaker 5: I felt like there was video. I think there was
Speaker 5: video of it. I thought that there was video.
Speaker 3: This could be this could be real. They might not
Speaker 3: be real, but use your discussion. So in nineteen fifty two,
Speaker 3: Washington DC UFO incident, also known as the Washington flap
Speaker 3: or the Washington National Airport Sightings, was a series of
Speaker 3: unidentified flying object reports from July twelfth to July twenty
Speaker 3: ninth of nineteen fifty two over Washington, DC. The most
Speaker 3: public sized sightings took place over consecutive weekends July nineteenth
Speaker 3: to twentieth and July twenty sixth to twenty seventh. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's been They look very similar to But if they
Speaker 3: are really lens flares, then this has been happening since
Speaker 3: nineteen fifty two. I guess yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm wondering if they were Lenz flares, why don't we
Speaker 5: see them all the time. There's tourists in Washington every
Speaker 5: day taking photographs nighttime and daytime. Why Why did it
Speaker 5: happen in nineteen fifty two and now it's just happened today.
Speaker 5: It hasn't happened at any point before then. What the
Speaker 5: lens flares only occasionally happen.
Speaker 3: Well, I would imagine with some older cameras it would
Speaker 3: be more difficult to actually get the Well, depending on
Speaker 3: the camera, I guess it would be more convincing or
Speaker 3: less convincing the order your camera is. But there's always
Speaker 3: that phenomenon with people that are, you know, seeing UFOs
Speaker 3: and have footage of UFOs. Everything's always super blurry, like
Speaker 3: it's the most blurry footage that you could possibly ever have,
Speaker 3: Like it all looks like it was shot on a
Speaker 3: freaking early two thousands flip phone razor Motorola phone, which
Speaker 3: is all obviously for a reason. It's to obfuscate the
Speaker 3: actual object because a majority of the footage is fake footage.
Speaker 3: But it's also interesting that within the UFO report that
Speaker 3: came out from Arrow that we did a show on
Speaker 3: right whenever it came out, it's talked about in there
Speaker 3: that pretty much all of the UFOs are misidentified UFOs
Speaker 3: or their military drones, their military technology. And then it's
Speaker 3: just so interesting that now all these drones that are
Speaker 3: supposedly over in New Jersey, you know, they're now calling drones.
Speaker 5: There is something afoot. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 5: But there's something afoot the way that they're playing with
Speaker 5: words and always have played with words, and the excuses
Speaker 5: that are very contradictory to the evidence over and over
Speaker 5: and over again. I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 5: something something's off obviously.
Speaker 3: All right, brother, Well, let's give a little wrap up
Speaker 3: summary of what you think these drones are. I showed
Speaker 3: the article of the United States and the Australia in
Speaker 3: the UK that you talked about on your show the
Speaker 3: other day. I'll show I'll pull up this article while
Speaker 3: you're giving your little summary of what you think that
Speaker 3: these drones actually are.
Speaker 5: Okay, So, in my opinion, based on the evidence I've
Speaker 5: seen most of the time, I don't really come to
Speaker 5: a conclusion. I just try to offer a different perspective.
Speaker 5: In this particular case, I think that I have a
Speaker 5: much clearer opinion of what these things are than I
Speaker 5: normally would with any situation like this. I think that
Speaker 5: it is a part of a byproduct of, or an
Speaker 5: extension of Project Convergence, which is a project between the US,
Speaker 5: the UK and Australia to design drone swarms that are
Speaker 5: infused with artificial intelligence that have situational awareness, that do
Speaker 5: have the ability once they are observed to deactivate their
Speaker 5: lights and quote go dark. Drones that have the ability
Speaker 5: to carry payloads. Drones that have the ability to appear
Speaker 5: in the sky as a very large vehicle because they
Speaker 5: are very very large drones that look like miniature planes.
Speaker 5: And so if you look at Project Conversions, I think
Speaker 5: the details of that project are very similar to what's
Speaker 5: happening in New Jersey. And furthermore, the Chinese and the
Speaker 5: Americans are working on drone swarms that have large drones,
Speaker 5: mothership drones that can split into multiple units while airborne.
Speaker 5: All of those characteristics that I've just provided you from
Speaker 5: Convergence and from these other swarm programs or experiments that
Speaker 5: they're doing with these drones explain what's happening in New Jersey.
Speaker 5: And furthermore, you probably if you're the military and you
Speaker 5: control the airspace anyway, you wouldn't tell the FAA, you
Speaker 5: wouldn't tell the White House, you wouldn't tell local law
Speaker 5: enforcement or local government governors, because if you did that,
Speaker 5: it would be a lot more difficult to train your
Speaker 5: AI when everybody is reacting to something that they know
Speaker 5: what it is. You want it to be real world
Speaker 5: data collection, just like X and the collection of that
Speaker 5: data for Elon Musk's AI and his autonomous robots. And
Speaker 5: so I think when you add all that together, mixed
Speaker 5: with the fact that the military is not shooting things
Speaker 5: down over their own bases, and now the White House
Speaker 5: is saying, oh, they weren't over bases, even though that's
Speaker 5: what was initially reported, there is clearly a disinformation misdirection
Speaker 5: campaign that's either a part of this experiment, I guess
Speaker 5: that's what you can call it, or it's been the
Speaker 5: plan from the very beginning to create this kind of
Speaker 5: hysteria over these things and to blame it on Iran,
Speaker 5: to blame it on China, to blame it on aliens,
Speaker 5: when once again it's very clearly some kind of psychological
Speaker 5: thing to see how the public reacts. And therefore, as
Speaker 5: a conclusion to my thoughts, I find it to be
Speaker 5: not coincidental that of all places in the world, and
Speaker 5: of all places in the US, and of all places
Speaker 5: in New Jersey, these things are happening right in the
Speaker 5: area where the nineteen thirty eight were of the World's
Speaker 5: Broadcast was supposedly taking place. I don't think that that
Speaker 5: is likewise a coincidence.
Speaker 3: One more thing before I let you go, can you
Speaker 3: let people know about your new rap album that's getting
Speaker 3: ready to drop?
Speaker 5: Where did you find that?
Speaker 3: At old Twitter? For my buddy and uh.
Speaker 5: He made a couple of those, I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for people that don't know. Ryan is a
Speaker 3: really good, really good rapper. He just come He just
Speaker 3: comes up with a lot of the stuff off off
Speaker 3: the top of his head. You had some really good
Speaker 3: ones with David Bolcock. You've done some really good raps
Speaker 3: about the the UFO con and all that stuff is
Speaker 3: freaking hilarious. What was the recent one that you did
Speaker 3: with You did the an eminem song didn't.
Speaker 5: You without without TST? Like without Me without TST without TST.
Speaker 3: Norla Sheen, thank you so much for your contribution to
Speaker 3: the show. Brother. I really appreciate you.
Speaker 5: Believe you brought that up.
Speaker 3: I think it's great. Dude. Nor Machine's work is uh phenomenal.
Speaker 3: I love it. It's really great. He does some memes
Speaker 3: for me as well as doing he's doing uh some
Speaker 3: once for the Shining for my Eye okay Christmas post,
Speaker 3: but that is uh, it's so funny. He did the
Speaker 3: whole Drake thing because that's a Drake album. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: the same as Drake's album making M M one.
Speaker 5: You got to make an M and M one to
Speaker 5: make it, make it legit. This looks like a job
Speaker 5: for me, So everybody just listen to me because we
Speaker 5: need a little controverty. See he so empty without tst Yeah,
Speaker 5: this is.
Speaker 3: The original Drake album artwork here that you just cropped
Speaker 3: your your your face into. Yeah, freaking phenomenal, dude, I
Speaker 3: love it. Thank you Narla Sheen for your amazing talent
Speaker 3: and support of the show.
Speaker 5: Maybe I should instead of having George Norrey sing songs
Speaker 5: at Contact this year, maybe they should have me perform
Speaker 5: my album.
Speaker 3: That would be great. Dude. You should do a rap album.
Speaker 5: Bro, David Wilcock, Yeah, dude.
Speaker 3: If what's it? If riff Raff can do it, Bro,
Speaker 3: you can blow up put that stuff on SoundCloud, dude,
Speaker 3: and and just just go off. Bro. Riff Raff is
Speaker 3: the most trash rapper ever. Like, if you can do
Speaker 3: it and blow up and make millions of dollars, dude,
Speaker 3: you can for sure do it.
Speaker 5: I don't even know who that is, Honestly, I should
Speaker 5: you don't.
Speaker 3: Know who riff Raff is.
Speaker 5: No, I have no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh he's like trash rapper, but he this is
Speaker 3: riff Raff here sure screen riff Raff boom. This is
Speaker 3: what he looks like. He's like he's been around for
Speaker 3: a really long time. But he's just he just doesn't
Speaker 3: It's like none of the stuff that he talks about
Speaker 3: makes any kind of sense. He's just putting trash trash
Speaker 3: words together and stuff. But yeah, I think you can
Speaker 3: do it, dude, blow up on sun Club.
Speaker 5: You have the tattoo my face first got at that face. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Norla Sheen says that I got you on the eminem
Speaker 3: cover give Me two Days?
Speaker 5: What? What?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 5: What? What? Cover was that from Without Me?
Speaker 3: That was the one where he was Robin. I think
Speaker 3: was a music video.
Speaker 5: It's the one where he's on He's in front of
Speaker 5: the stage with the curtain behind him. I think I
Speaker 5: think that was a single.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny and just put Ryan's face on the
Speaker 3: from the music video of with on Me. It's really
Speaker 3: funny music video. Yeah all right, Ryan, thanks so much
Speaker 3: for being on brother, really appreciate it. Can you let
Speaker 3: people know where to find you? Again and plug your ax,
Speaker 3: your acts and let people know where if they would
Speaker 3: like to reach out to you personally, if they have
Speaker 3: any questions for you, Let people know where they can
Speaker 3: find you.
Speaker 5: Yep questions t ST radio at ProtonMail dot com or
Speaker 5: rd gable at yahoo dot com. My social media. The
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Speaker 5: for having me on. This was really fun. I hope
Speaker 5: that the listeners enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for coming on. The links to Ryan's
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