Speaker 1: And nine.
Speaker 2: Ignition five four three two one zero engine running.
Speaker 3: It's Wednesday. You know what that means. It's time for
Speaker 3: Ignition with the a W fanhob podcast team. This is Kelson.
Speaker 3: We've got a full house here tonight. We're gonna have
Speaker 3: some fun. We're gonna talk about tonight's fighter Fest and
Speaker 3: a whole lot of other hot topics in a w
Speaker 3: But let's go ahead and talk about fighter Fest because
Speaker 3: I believe. I believe that fighter Fest this week, which
Speaker 3: is a four hour long show, Summer Blockbuster next week,
Speaker 3: which is another four hour long show, and then Grand
Speaker 3: Slam Slum Grand Slam, Grand Slam Mexico in two weeks.
Speaker 3: These are big show. These are big shows for AW
Speaker 3: to build an audience, and especially with all the things
Speaker 3: that have been going on with WWE. Guys, I want
Speaker 3: your opinions on this. What does AW need to do,
Speaker 3: if anything different, to gain more viewers.
Speaker 1: I personally don't think they have to do anything different.
Speaker 1: I think if they put on a show like they
Speaker 1: do every week, have great matches, more match time than
Speaker 1: they have talk time, and they'll do just fine.
Speaker 4: Exactly, just keep doing what you're doing, putting on killer matches,
Speaker 4: great storylines with like emotional depths and stuff. Just keep doing,
Speaker 4: do not mess with the current formula. Everything is going
Speaker 4: to be great.
Speaker 3: Let me throw a little bit of let me throw
Speaker 3: a little wrench in here for you. And I want
Speaker 3: to hear from I want to hear your opinions on this,
Speaker 3: because I'm not going to give my opinions on social
Speaker 3: media Reddit and Twitter or x. Specifically, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of WWE fans in light of the things that have
Speaker 3: been going on in WWE, you know, in recent weeks
Speaker 3: and more specifically, you know, like the Our Truth release,
Speaker 3: which really upset a lot of people. Rightfully so, but
Speaker 3: when you're doing a show, and I understand what you're saying,
Speaker 3: if it ain't broke, you know, don't fix it. But
Speaker 3: also when you want to attract WWE fans, is there
Speaker 3: anything that aw needs to do specifically directed at w
Speaker 3: I'm not even talking about changing the show, but is
Speaker 3: there something that they can do to I don't know
Speaker 3: entice WWE fans to watch and continue to watch.
Speaker 5: I think they crave wrestling is what they want to see,
Speaker 5: and less commercials and less shenanigans and just do the
Speaker 5: thing thing. I think that's what they're missing because I
Speaker 5: hear a lot of people complain about tons of commercials
Speaker 5: and stupid run ins and stuff like that, and so
Speaker 5: I really think they need to do what they've been
Speaker 5: doing and stuff. And the cornyon iss too. The cornerings
Speaker 5: is kind of fun. Sometimes I enjoy the corniness, but
Speaker 5: I don't know how they feel about it. But but
Speaker 5: cornyiness is is a big part of what makes AW great.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, Hamasar, what do you think?
Speaker 6: Yeah, the most most people I know that watch wwbe
Speaker 6: primarily in it for the storylines. I do think there's
Speaker 6: probably some legitimate criticism to be had, especially with the
Speaker 6: women's division, that AW lacks some focus in the lower card,
Speaker 6: with kind of having storylines with people that aren't involved
Speaker 6: with a belt at the time. I think I would
Speaker 6: like to see a little bit more there in general,
Speaker 6: without it becoming like, you know, two matches an hour
Speaker 6: kind of talkie segments.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, that you just made a really good point
Speaker 3: in that two matches an hour. We've got eight matches
Speaker 3: segments on slate for tomorrow night or for tonight on
Speaker 3: Fight or Fest and it's a four hour show. Well,
Speaker 3: they've obviously they've got to add stuff in here because
Speaker 3: I personally don't want to see Mark Briscoe and you know,
Speaker 3: Job Moxley go at it for forty five minutes, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So there's obviously going to be
Speaker 3: more added to the show. I mean, you're talking a
Speaker 3: four hour show. So, and Tony Kahn has has publicly
Speaker 3: said on two things that are interesting on Twitter or
Speaker 3: X one, he said that he is advertising this on
Speaker 3: social media as a four our pay per view on TV.
Speaker 3: So he said those words, So he's got to come through.
Speaker 3: He's got to come through. The second thing is somebody
Speaker 3: asked him and this was interesting because I don't really
Speaker 3: understand why somebody would even ask this, but he answered it,
Speaker 3: you know, because somebody asked this on Twitter and tagged
Speaker 3: Tony Khan in it, and he said something to the
Speaker 3: effect of what should we do about gatekeeping? You know,
Speaker 3: you know, should.
Speaker 7: We welcome these WWE fans into our midst with open arms?
Speaker 7: And Tony Kahan basically said, absolutely, welcome everybody. I mean,
Speaker 7: why wouldn't he say that, I mean it was kind
Speaker 7: of a stupid question. You know, what are you going
Speaker 7: to say?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: You know, find our house is a burn up of
Speaker 3: the ground like hang man out a page. It's worth Strickland,
Speaker 3: you know, So it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: I think it's very important that people who aren't w
Speaker 1: who are AW fans if Tony, if Tony's calling this
Speaker 1: a pay per view, you guarantee he's going to put
Speaker 1: on a pay per view quality show. He's never I
Speaker 1: don't think there's ever been a pay per view where
Speaker 1: he's completely failed to do what he set out to do.
Speaker 1: And when it comes to bringing in and welcoming the
Speaker 1: other WW fans, hell yeah, you want to encourage them
Speaker 1: to come back, and you want to welcome in because
Speaker 1: they're gonna come. They're gonna see what they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: find what they're looking for in a w and they're
Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, wait a minute, maybe we've been wrong
Speaker 1: about AEW. And they're gonna stick around for more than tonight,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have this for the next three weeks.
Speaker 1: Stuff like this, they're definitely got a chance, a good
Speaker 1: chance to bring in a new AEW fans from WWE
Speaker 1: and keep them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Matt, I wanted to hear your opinion
Speaker 3: on this.
Speaker 8: I think it's a good idea, the more fans the better.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 8: I mean, don't close the door on people that watch WWE,
Speaker 8: because that's that's where the tribalism comes from. If you
Speaker 8: love wrestling, you love wrestling, and it doesn't matter the
Speaker 8: promotion it. I mean, who cares what's going on. I
Speaker 8: just hope to see the same level of wrestling that
Speaker 8: we've seen with AEW. I'm not a big fan of
Speaker 8: all the talkie let's you know, let's all have feelings
Speaker 8: and hold hands kind of segments. I like the wrestling,
Speaker 8: and I mean I'm a fan of a good storyline,
Speaker 8: but when it comes down to it, I like the action.
Speaker 8: So I think that if they put on a good
Speaker 8: show like they are known to do, especially at pay
Speaker 8: per views, there's nothing really to worry about, and I
Speaker 8: think people will come back and want to see more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look what you know when you're look
Speaker 3: at it though, and I'll let you go, homosare too
Speaker 3: when you look at it though. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: AW fans are there for the wrestling, the actual action. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, But as you're saying, but with w w
Speaker 3: WEE fans coming in, do you want to give them
Speaker 3: that break? You know? One of the things I want
Speaker 3: to go ahead and go to Homosaur because I do
Speaker 3: have an opinion on this. Go ahead a homosaur, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 6: I think the more so. One thing I really liked
Speaker 6: the past month or so is all these all star
Speaker 6: tags they've been having. I think that Tony Kahan needs
Speaker 6: to like I feel like that he's the TV's been
Speaker 6: at the best whenever he's kind of relentlessly and shamelessly
Speaker 6: ripped off from New Japan. So they've done a good
Speaker 6: job adapting that sort of calendar like schedule to the
Speaker 6: United States. They turning the the owen Hart Classic into
Speaker 6: like a legitimate thing and a title shot like a
Speaker 6: big deal was really smart. Having the Continental Classic as
Speaker 6: kind of the end of the year tournament. We'll see
Speaker 6: what kind of they do with that next year, since
Speaker 6: it seems like there's some possibility they may just remove
Speaker 6: the belt and may just become a tournament. But they
Speaker 6: all start tag something is something that has always been
Speaker 6: kind of a staple in New Japan and a source
Speaker 6: of a lot of storytelling that they have never really
Speaker 6: taken advantage of that much, and I think it's it's
Speaker 6: paid off a lot, even in the last month with
Speaker 6: them doing that stuff, so I would love to see
Speaker 6: that tomorrow. They don't really have I don't think anything
Speaker 6: announced in that way, but that's kind of a great
Speaker 6: way to show. I think fans that have seen a
Speaker 6: lot of other American wrestling like an alternative form of
Speaker 6: storytelling that's more action oriented.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting that it's weird because just just what
Speaker 3: you said on a swear, we have a lot of
Speaker 3: different in opinions. Now I'm very vocal about this, you know,
Speaker 3: and this is just my opinion. When I see an
Speaker 3: all star eight man tag, I don't give a crap
Speaker 3: about it, and I generally just zone out because I
Speaker 3: think they're awful. I have never seen one that's or
Speaker 3: let me never never seeing them where they're consistently good.
Speaker 3: I think they're the worst matches that Tony Comput's on.
Speaker 3: I hate them and they and I wish that they
Speaker 3: just wouldn't do it. I want to see, you know.
Speaker 3: I don't even like Trio's matches, you know, whether there's
Speaker 3: a belt involved or something. But when they have those big, long,
Speaker 3: those big matches, it's just a bunch of people standing
Speaker 3: around most of the time. I could go to the
Speaker 3: mall and see that. Yeah, you know, it's it's weird though,
Speaker 3: because it makes it makes a good point because it'd
Speaker 3: be a little bit crass here when you look at
Speaker 3: aw pay per views, you look at the card and
Speaker 3: you're like, God, you look at the card and you
Speaker 3: look at like ten twelve matches and you're you're pointing
Speaker 3: out them, going well, I'm gonna go to the bathroom
Speaker 3: at this match, and I hope it's kind of in
Speaker 3: the middle of the show. There's just no way. You
Speaker 3: just can't take any time off from the TV and
Speaker 3: the for the fear of missing something great. Does that
Speaker 3: make sense to you? Whereas with WWE, I mean there's
Speaker 3: piss brakes built in, lots of them, you know, And
Speaker 3: that is a that is a talking point from WWE
Speaker 3: fans that I have seen, is like there's all that
Speaker 3: product placement in and around the ring, and you know,
Speaker 3: there's so many commercials and there's so many vignettes and
Speaker 3: things like that. It takes away from the action. You know,
Speaker 3: people don't watch wrestling, at least not in my opinion,
Speaker 3: to go watch commercials. In my opinion, they watch wrestlings
Speaker 3: like Netza for the action and of course the storylines
Speaker 3: are part of the action. But come on, I mean,
Speaker 3: when a big b model of Prime gets in your
Speaker 3: viewing way, then you've got a problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah you know, me, I can't stand that stuff.
Speaker 3: Somebody was telev me whether it tastes like battery acid
Speaker 3: or something like that, which begs the question, how do
Speaker 3: you know what battery acids tastes like?
Speaker 4: But well, I was talking about the oversaturation of advertising.
Speaker 4: But no, I don't really like Prime either.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, but look, I mean, go ahead, No, I.
Speaker 1: Was just gonna say, this kind is a Netflix kind
Speaker 1: of thing, isn't it, because I don't think they were
Speaker 1: like that before they came to Netflix, not as bad
Speaker 1: with the like the advertising thing. I think it's because
Speaker 1: they were the Netflix where the ads became what they became,
Speaker 1: because you know, they did a lot of not as
Speaker 1: you know, they still weren't wrestling when they were on
Speaker 1: USA or whatever channel they were on, but they didn't
Speaker 1: have the overt placements like they do now. And you
Speaker 1: know that's something that's not going to change.
Speaker 3: They had the placements, so they did, but there wasn't
Speaker 3: as blatant I guess is the best way to put it.
Speaker 6: I would imagine a big piece of that is TKO,
Speaker 6: who has made a lot of money from sticking ads
Speaker 6: on people's butts for years now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know you brought up Netflix. You know,
Speaker 3: I have a graphic up here in the chat if
Speaker 3: anybody's looking at it. Netflix has their their ratings. I
Speaker 3: guess it's not really ratings but views. It goes by
Speaker 3: global views and hours that were viewed. And they they
Speaker 3: do these ratings seven days after a show airs well
Speaker 3: on Netflix. In global views. From April twenty eighth to
Speaker 3: May twenty six, they've lost you know, four hundred thousand
Speaker 3: viewers in global views, and they've lost a clean one
Speaker 3: million hours viewed on This is for ww RAW. That's
Speaker 3: not good. That is not good when you're dropping four
Speaker 3: hundred thousand viewers and losing one million views in the
Speaker 3: space of a month. And keep in mind that, look,
Speaker 3: you just had this whole our truth unfortunate what happened
Speaker 3: there the universally loved I mean, you have fans that
Speaker 3: are upset, You've got wrestlers that are upset. I'm just
Speaker 3: probably staffed that's upset, you know, production team that's upset.
Speaker 3: That kind of affects it. You if you watched Raw
Speaker 3: last night, you heard the chance before Ross went the
Speaker 3: air during Raw, you know, after the after Raw ended,
Speaker 3: there were chants, you know, for our truths.
Speaker 6: They're chanting for somebody through a cmfunk segment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I gotta get am plums, chunk, tongue and cheek.
Speaker 3: You know, he couldn't say what he really wanted to say,
Speaker 3: but he supported them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard. I think it was somebody on like
Speaker 4: What Culture this morning said this, like the WWE is
Speaker 4: re entering its heel era. Like they're like the heel
Speaker 4: Federation now because like between the ads, the jacked up
Speaker 4: ticket prices, the jacked up everything prices really and now
Speaker 4: finally kicking someone as beloved as our truth to the curb.
Speaker 4: The backlash is in the gether, in the oversaturation of booking,
Speaker 4: which he went into last week. They're like they had
Speaker 4: they had like a period of like after Vince left,
Speaker 4: it's like, oh everything is good again. Were there the
Speaker 4: good guys now? Nope? Uh, I agree, sort of got
Speaker 4: knocked that rose real quick.
Speaker 1: If you believe the rumors Vince may be making a comeback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said those rumors were shot down rather quickly.
Speaker 5: I just yeah, I think it's a lot of Since
Speaker 5: t K t KO has taken over, I really feel
Speaker 5: like they're they've lost their edge. I don't know if
Speaker 5: it was a right move to just stream on Netflix
Speaker 5: either by them and so, but this these releases feel
Speaker 5: very t k O ish And I don't know if
Speaker 5: they told Triple H let go of certain people or
Speaker 5: fine room and make red I don't I don't know.
Speaker 6: But it just was reported was that t k O
Speaker 6: did demand that they make some cuts and that it
Speaker 6: was Triple H that actually suggested the cuts. So he
Speaker 6: he made, he picked the personnel, and if reports are true.
Speaker 1: There's also any bit. There's also reports that the miss
Speaker 1: who's like the third longest tenured wrestler in WWE right now,
Speaker 1: has removed on all oh his social media's references that
Speaker 1: WWE are gone and his contract runs out this year,
Speaker 1: so he may be gone too.
Speaker 3: Just before I opened up this podcast, and I apologize,
Speaker 3: you know, for not being prepared here because it just happened.
Speaker 3: Somebody said that Bailey made a post alluding to her
Speaker 3: being worried about her contract or already being told maybe
Speaker 3: that her contract isn't going to be renewed, although it
Speaker 3: doesn't look like her contract is necessarily up really soon,
Speaker 3: but she may have only like two or three months
Speaker 3: left in in WWE. We look I think one of
Speaker 3: the biggest things with I don't know how to put this,
Speaker 3: but I think that WWE kind of backed themselves into
Speaker 3: a corner by doing their premium live events because they're
Speaker 3: not getting revenue from you know, pay per view buys.
Speaker 3: You know, I think that what was it double or nothing?
Speaker 3: Did one hundred and thirty something pay per view buys
Speaker 3: at what fifty bucks each? That's a crapload of money
Speaker 3: that you that you lose out on, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. So, I mean you just got to look
Speaker 3: at it realistically here. I mean, they backed themselves into
Speaker 3: a corner. They can't go back from a PL plan
Speaker 3: to a pay per view plan without looking really stupid.
Speaker 3: And that was one of the things that when AW
Speaker 3: went to Max and you know, they said, we can't
Speaker 3: go to a PL plan because we back ourselves into
Speaker 3: a corner. If we do so, we'll see. But of
Speaker 3: course it is reported that later on this year, which
Speaker 3: we are getting close to being later on this year,
Speaker 3: now that the WAW pay per views will be available
Speaker 3: for purchase on Max at a discount. Not really heard
Speaker 3: anything else about that, though.
Speaker 4: I would very much appreciate.
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, especially when you have a you know, a
Speaker 3: lot more pay per views in aw than there were
Speaker 3: you know, three years ago for sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, someone who has enjoyed the half price pay per
Speaker 6: views on trailer via VPN, thank you to the country
Speaker 6: of Ireland. That seems like it may be going away
Speaker 6: very soon. And I will tell you, as somebody who
Speaker 6: tried last pay per view, the other pay per view
Speaker 6: providers are a lot tighter on YouTube.
Speaker 3: So I was wondering because I couldn't this is your
Speaker 3: first time with this hoosaur and and I was like,
Speaker 3: where does that accident? It's Irish obviously, Okay, now I'm
Speaker 3: from Missouri, except same thing you just uh Western. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so we touched on Look, we've had Our Truth was
Speaker 3: recently released, Uh, universally loved at w W. But there's
Speaker 3: been you know, different releases as well from w W,
Speaker 3: not only this week, and there was a report that
Speaker 3: there are more possibly coming.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, we've all seen the list. Is there anybody
Speaker 3: that stands out to you guys uh as being someone
Speaker 3: that would fit in a w and why.
Speaker 5: I think Bailey would if she came over if Yeah,
Speaker 5: Bailey would be a big one if she did.
Speaker 3: Right, Bailey's you know, really good friends with Mercedes.
Speaker 4: Right absolutely, I think so.
Speaker 8: Have they thought about using that CM punk guy over
Speaker 8: in a W.
Speaker 3: I I don't think. I don't. I don't think they
Speaker 3: would go on all off for him at all.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: Detonated and and removed from the planet. I don't think
Speaker 1: you'll ever move.
Speaker 4: They say never say never in this industry, but I
Speaker 4: think that's a pretty good never.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe if they they WE send people to Mars,
Speaker 1: and they have an a W division in Mars, maybe
Speaker 1: they send him there. But you know, I just don't
Speaker 1: see him being around t K at all. Ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was a.
Speaker 1: Good thing for t K.
Speaker 3: You know what was interesting though, is just looking at
Speaker 3: the comments by a w fans, because this question itself
Speaker 3: has been presented on social media quite a bit, and
Speaker 3: a lot of aw fans were saying, look, we just
Speaker 3: can't go out and grab these ex WWE men and
Speaker 3: women whose goal is to go to WWE again.
Speaker 1: You know, why would you?
Speaker 3: Why would why would you? Why would you recruit and
Speaker 3: hire someone like you know, and there's it's unconfirmed still
Speaker 3: at this point, But why would you recruit and hire
Speaker 3: somebody like Mariah May who's using AW as a stepping
Speaker 3: stone to go to WWE or in some cases back
Speaker 3: to WWE. But I want to look. When Mercedes Monet
Speaker 3: was first signed by AW, she made a statement that
Speaker 3: she can see herself going to WWE again one day
Speaker 3: one day, and it caused a stir. And now I
Speaker 3: don't know she was told, Hey, don't ever say that
Speaker 3: shit again. But I'm gonna be honest with you. If
Speaker 3: you listen to Mercedes Monette talk about AW something, please
Speaker 3: mute your mic when you hear AW or Mercedes Monet
Speaker 3: talking about AW. There is no indication that she's ever
Speaker 3: going to leave AW. She is just gushing about AW
Speaker 3: like it's been the biggest godsend of her career, you know.
Speaker 3: And I think that if people do come into AW,
Speaker 3: meaning wrestlers and talent come to AW, not using it
Speaker 3: as a stepping stone, but as a career move, I
Speaker 3: think they'll find success.
Speaker 6: Money In particular, I mean, she did everything possible to
Speaker 6: try not to go back to WWE. She delayed delayed
Speaker 6: and delayed for her. She went to Japan, she got injured,
Speaker 6: she kept delaying, like she did not she did not
Speaker 6: want to go back. She wanted to have them give
Speaker 6: her enough money to stay and keep doing Japan, to
Speaker 6: keep doing worldwide stuff. She's she's the person like out
Speaker 6: of WWE, Like that is the person that like. She
Speaker 6: said that she wanted to wrestle because she saw Guya girls,
Speaker 6: Like if you watched that documentary and wanted to and thought, oh,
Speaker 6: this is great, I want to do this, Like you're
Speaker 6: a strange person, Like you definitely are a different breed
Speaker 6: of person. And the first time she left ww in
Speaker 6: the first place, she went to Japan, she went to
Speaker 6: the Marvelous dojo and like hung out with Chagos Nagayo,
Speaker 6: Like she's not She's always been kind of a different
Speaker 6: person and had a different outlook on wrestling. So yeah, definitely,
Speaker 6: I think, you know, I'm sure she's she I do
Speaker 6: remember her saying that, But yeah, I think overall, like
Speaker 6: if she can make the money, I think she would
Speaker 6: be happy to to not be back in that system
Speaker 6: and to be restricted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you also got to look at it
Speaker 3: this way. You have to look at the person outside
Speaker 3: of the ring and outside of the arena. Mercedes Monette
Speaker 3: is one of those AW talents that really just promotes
Speaker 3: the crap out of AAW. She's out there just doing everything.
Speaker 3: You know, whether you're a Mercedes Monet fan of her
Speaker 3: wrestling work or in ring persona and or you know,
Speaker 3: promos and vignettes or whatever she's doing. I don't think
Speaker 3: anybody here could deny that she's really promoting the hell
Speaker 3: out of AW.
Speaker 4: Oh not at all. She's great. I admit it took
Speaker 4: me a minute. Like she I don't think she had
Speaker 4: a very strong start. I don't think he makes a
Speaker 4: very good face honestly. But no, she is working that
Speaker 4: hell out of LIKE promotion. She's going everywhere, she is
Speaker 4: like putting She is getting AW out there, and you
Speaker 4: can't really ask for more than that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I mean when you look at
Speaker 3: a W and the people that are putting it out,
Speaker 3: I mean, Kyle Fletcher is working his tail off for AW.
Speaker 3: Outside of the arena. You know he's doing He's gonna
Speaker 3: he's building your career as a weather man. I'm telling
Speaker 3: you he's probably gonna be entering night school or something
Speaker 3: your day school, because the guy has got it. He's hysterical.
Speaker 3: He's why isn't that every everywhere he goes and he
Speaker 3: makes these little news uh you know, interview at news
Speaker 3: channels they always put them, Hey, you want to do
Speaker 3: the weather? Okay, and he gets out there and he
Speaker 3: just he's just a bundle of enthusiasm. But uh, I
Speaker 3: mean there are wrestlers like that. But again it goes
Speaker 3: back to like these WWE releases. I mean when you
Speaker 3: look at their ages, and I mean, I love our truth.
Speaker 3: Our truth is awesome. But he's fifty three years old.
Speaker 3: If he was to come to ae W, you put
Speaker 3: him in a role that would suit his ability, you
Speaker 3: know that. You know, if you sign him to a
Speaker 3: four year contract, you gotta look, Okay, at the end
Speaker 3: of this contract, he's going to be fifty seven or
Speaker 3: fifty eight, you know what I mean. So you know,
Speaker 3: this is what I'm saying. In my opinion, there are
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe two people from AW relase from
Speaker 3: WW releases that I think would be viable in AW.
Speaker 3: I don't know about you guys, what do you guys think?
Speaker 4: Well, I think that our Truth seems to have found
Speaker 4: the same Benjamin Fountain of youth that Dustin Rhodes has.
Speaker 4: He still looks great. He we only got to see
Speaker 4: it for a couple of seconds, but he can still
Speaker 4: go in the ring pretty decent. If he can still go,
Speaker 4: I don't see a reason not to just overlook him.
Speaker 3: I can see him all right.
Speaker 5: I could see him in a Paul White roll of
Speaker 5: more backstage suff helping out and stuff, and every once
Speaker 5: in a while coming out. But he's a funny guy.
Speaker 5: But I don't think we necessarily need him wrestling right now.
Speaker 5: But he'd be great to have backstage and help the
Speaker 5: stuff and do stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I think he'd beat a perfect fit with the normal
Speaker 1: Orange Cassidy because they both fill that comic role. Orange
Speaker 1: hasn't done it as much since he's became a title
Speaker 1: holder and all that, but he's still I think he'd
Speaker 1: be a great Accusit Accusit acquisition. What you said, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to be honest, your point about people wanting to go
Speaker 1: why you would hire people that want to go back
Speaker 1: to WWE. A lot of those folks, like Mercedes said
Speaker 1: it in the beginning, she didn't know what aw was
Speaker 1: like from the inside. She knew what it was like
Speaker 1: from the outside, she'd seen what it was like, but
Speaker 1: she didn't get to experience what freedoms you have. I
Speaker 1: think one of the biggest problems that like Mariah May
Speaker 1: is going to have is she's going to realize very
Speaker 1: quickly that being limited to AWWE events and possibly getting
Speaker 1: your dream moment at WrestleMania does not make up for
Speaker 1: the rest of the year when you're doing nothing because
Speaker 1: they don't have use for you. And that's what she's
Speaker 1: going to find out, I think in a bad way.
Speaker 3: Well, the first year for Mariah May is going to
Speaker 3: be good because, let's face may I May goes to WWE,
Speaker 3: She's I would doubt seriously that you would spend much
Speaker 3: time in an XD. She'd they spent a few weeks
Speaker 3: and you know, maybe a couple of months at best
Speaker 3: at NXT before going to the main roster, and she
Speaker 3: will have a belt around her waist and she's gonna
Speaker 3: be a big deal and then after a while she's
Speaker 3: gonna fizzle, just like any you know x AW or frankly,
Speaker 3: the same thing happened when WCW ended. Yeah, guys, those
Speaker 3: guys died a slow, miserable death. You know, I mean,
Speaker 3: anybody that's not seeing punk is dead dead weight there.
Speaker 3: You know, you're not a w w E.
Speaker 1: If you're not a WWE product from beginning to end,
Speaker 1: you don't have a chance in WWE. Everybody says, well,
Speaker 1: Cody went back, Well Cody started in WWE, so yeah,
Speaker 1: he went back and did have a problem with that.
Speaker 1: But nobody that comes from AEW last more than six
Speaker 1: months before they start to becoming nothing again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but it's weird because they do put
Speaker 3: a belt on you know, Lexus King, you know the
Speaker 3: former Brian Pillman Jr. Ethan Page, they have belts around
Speaker 3: their waist and then I mean Jade Cargill got a
Speaker 3: belt tag team belt around her waist and then he
Speaker 3: basically killed the tag Team division.
Speaker 1: I think they do that because they want to try
Speaker 1: to fool everybody into thinking that they are going to
Speaker 1: make something out of those people. And like I said,
Speaker 1: after they get the first belt, after that, what happened
Speaker 1: Ethan Page.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, I mean he's and I like Ethan Page.
Speaker 3: I was never really a big fan of Pillman Junior.
Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, but you know, look, when it
Speaker 3: comes to the recent WWE releases, whether they fit in
Speaker 3: a w you know, Shana Basler to me, No, I
Speaker 3: don't know if you guys agree with me on that.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 3: She was one of the four horsemen Women's MMA, you know,
Speaker 3: but does she fit because one of the other four
Speaker 3: horsemen was Marina Shaffir. And frankly, she's not really find
Speaker 3: her munition in AW either. You know, that wasn't briefcase.
Speaker 3: It would be either.
Speaker 4: I'd say, like Cora and Bailey. If Bailey turns out
Speaker 4: to have been cut, I can't really think of who
Speaker 4: else would like really be it be a huge asset
Speaker 4: to AEW at this point. And I'm saying that as
Speaker 4: somebody who absolutely loves Shana.
Speaker 3: No, I love Shana too, But let's face it, she's no,
Speaker 3: she's not, you know, in her twenties anymore. She's barely
Speaker 3: at her thirties.
Speaker 6: He's actually I think she's like forty five actually, So
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what what what worth are you going
Speaker 3: to get out of somebody? Why you why would you
Speaker 3: invest money in somebody? Later you brought up Corey Jade.
Speaker 3: I absolutely do believe that Corga to Elena Black is
Speaker 3: a perfect fit for AW because she's twenty four years old.
Speaker 3: She does have some experience, and you know, she just
Speaker 3: did an interview with Kilwanie and said, I think it
Speaker 3: was two days ago. They said that they asked her, so,
Speaker 3: would you go to AW. She said yes. She said
Speaker 3: that she has a lot of friends in AW. She
Speaker 3: watches the shows and she enjoyed her time in AW.
Speaker 3: She did wrestle two matches when she was before she
Speaker 3: went to WWE with AW. She does have a little
Speaker 3: bit of baggage in AW. I think she's got a
Speaker 3: little bit of a She had a little bit of
Speaker 3: spat with Darby Allen. I don't even know what it
Speaker 3: was about, but I think there was that, and then
Speaker 3: of course there was a little bit of a spat
Speaker 3: with sky Blue. But I kind of think that that
Speaker 3: was tongue in cheek because at the time when cor
Speaker 3: Jade kind of made these made the scene in WWE,
Speaker 3: sky Blue was making the scene at AW at the
Speaker 3: same time, and they both came out wearing baseball caps backwards.
Speaker 3: Do you remember that when sky Blue used to do that,
Speaker 3: she would come out wearing a backward baseball cap and
Speaker 3: Elena Black or cord Jade did say something like she's
Speaker 3: stealing she's copying me, you know, but.
Speaker 6: Well from Chicago. I'd be shocked if they had any
Speaker 6: real heat.
Speaker 3: Exactly. I just don't think that that's that's even a deal.
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened between her and Darby Allen, but.
Speaker 6: I do remember this one. So Darby was running his
Speaker 6: mouth a little bit, so he kind of deserved a
Speaker 6: little bit of heat. Basically was saying that like, because
Speaker 6: she had it, they give her a skateboard for a
Speaker 6: little while. It was like a gimmick, and he was
Speaker 6: upset that she was a poser, basically that she wasn't
Speaker 6: a real skater, and uh, she shot back at her,
Speaker 6: or she shot back at Darby referring to his speaking
Speaker 6: out allegations, which you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, I can understand that though. I mean, you know, look,
Speaker 3: if you're going to do a skateboard, you know theme,
Speaker 3: you better skateboard.
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that you that you
Speaker 1: kind of overlooked when you were talking about SHANEA Basler,
Speaker 1: you did mention that she has a thing with Marina Shaffir.
Speaker 1: If a W is legit going to have a women's
Speaker 1: tag team division, that's the tag team they need to
Speaker 1: have in AE w That would be why you'd bring
Speaker 1: Shane in to team her up with the former four
Speaker 1: horse you know they were they were four horse Women
Speaker 1: of the UFC or whatever, and that would be a
Speaker 1: great tag team to get into the into that with.
Speaker 4: Oh that's right.
Speaker 3: Well to Rousey is available to you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, and she didn't wrestle wrestle at r o
Speaker 3: H you know at one point with Marina Shafir. So
Speaker 3: I don't think that that's I get your point something,
Speaker 3: but I don't think that putting getting a forty five
Speaker 3: year old Shada Basler at aw for a specific reason
Speaker 3: of tagging with Marina Shafir, who hasn't really shown that
Speaker 3: she's a main eventor or even maybe not even a
Speaker 3: mid carter upper mid carter, or you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I think you I think you've got to focus up
Speaker 3: for Rina Shafir.
Speaker 1: I get that idea, But the problem with that is
Speaker 1: it's not really Marina's fault because she's been booked with
Speaker 1: the with Mox and Company, and where where has Tony
Speaker 1: given her a chance to show what she can do
Speaker 1: in the ring. She hasn't been in her wrestling match
Speaker 1: since before the event Sunday. She hasn't been in a
Speaker 1: wrestling match in how long. I mean, you know, you
Speaker 1: got to put the blame on Tony for that, because
Speaker 1: he has a tendency not to use everywhere he could
Speaker 1: in certain place, and I think she looked that bad
Speaker 1: when she was wrestling against Willow.
Speaker 8: I agree with you Sutton there about Marina Shaffir. I've
Speaker 8: seen her wrestle before she came to a w in
Speaker 8: the Indies, and she's very very good.
Speaker 1: Doesn't she hold the title somewhere?
Speaker 3: Does she?
Speaker 1: What doesn't she hold a title somewhere? I thought she
Speaker 1: had a title in de Fie.
Speaker 8: She's the Women's World Champion. So, I mean, she's very
Speaker 8: a very very good wrestler.
Speaker 4: She's one of the.
Speaker 8: People that I was really excited to see come into
Speaker 8: a w and for the life of me, I can't
Speaker 8: understand why she's running around with Moxley and the rest
Speaker 8: of them all the time. There is a lot of
Speaker 8: potential for her, and I really hope that Tony Kahan
Speaker 8: does not mess this up, that she just kind of
Speaker 8: has this fight with Willow and it fizzles out and
Speaker 8: she does nothing else.
Speaker 1: The problem is, here's the problem with Tony Kahan and
Speaker 1: will be a problem. He solved it a little bit,
Speaker 1: but this is always going to be his weak spot.
Speaker 1: He does not have a clue when it comes to
Speaker 1: the women's division. He doesn't.
Speaker 8: He has can help.
Speaker 1: He had, but the problem is it's gotten a little
Speaker 1: bit better. But think about it, from what he's had
Speaker 1: with Tony Storm and that storyline, and even with Monette
Speaker 1: and all the stuff that he's been doing, he still
Speaker 1: hasn't got it down with how to put on a
Speaker 1: women's program that actually is useful. He doesn't use people
Speaker 1: in the right places. You know you hear thunder Rose
Speaker 1: saying I want to wrestle Britt Baker at all in
Speaker 1: because she's not being used right. She would be a
Speaker 1: better fit of going against the Marina Shafir than a
Speaker 1: Britt Baker because honestly, from what the way Britt Baker
Speaker 1: handled the Manet match, I don't think we'll ever see
Speaker 1: Britt Baker in a ring again. I really don't. Oh wow, yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Would agree with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I wonder though with the thunder rosa thing, is this
Speaker 6: an angle like? Because she had programs recently, she was
Speaker 6: on Tvalized, she had a TV match in May.
Speaker 1: So like her thing is she's upset because the women who,
Speaker 1: to put it, bluntly dressed, sexually or sexiest are the
Speaker 1: ones that seem to be on TV, and she doesn't.
Speaker 1: She comes out in a very de mirror. She doesn't
Speaker 1: wear anything flashy, she doesn't wear anything revealing, and she's
Speaker 1: got it that that's costing her mass time. So you know,
Speaker 1: is it is it true or is it just in
Speaker 1: her head or you know that's the thing that people
Speaker 1: have to decide on.
Speaker 3: Well enough, they put you on the air.
Speaker 5: And I think she's great, but I don't think she's
Speaker 5: a tops tier star, Like maybe she thinks she is.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but she's not. I enjoy watching matches,
Speaker 5: but I don't watch for her.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I think she's been better recently. I'm knowing she
Speaker 6: had a really hard time coming back from her back injury. Yeah,
Speaker 6: she's been good in twenty five, like into twenty four,
Speaker 6: she's been.
Speaker 3: We are recording this on Tuesday Night at MK. Just
Speaker 3: posted something that is now confirmed because NXT is going
Speaker 3: on right now. Mariah May has made her WWE debut.
Speaker 4: Good for her.
Speaker 6: Did they give her a fake name?
Speaker 3: Well, we're doing this podcast, So I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, good tomorrow, I may. I mean, this was
Speaker 3: her dream and I am never going to be one
Speaker 3: to question somebody's dream if that's what she wanted to do.
Speaker 3: You know that she she spout success. I'm happy for her,
Speaker 3: and I hope she does well. I really do.
Speaker 4: I still think she's made a terrible mistake.
Speaker 2: But I.
Speaker 3: Mean it's hard to say that, you know, because maybe
Speaker 3: she's going to be the top star in WWEE by
Speaker 3: this time next year.
Speaker 6: We don't know.
Speaker 1: Does does Flair still work there? Because his long as Flair,
Speaker 1: Charlotte Flair is in WWE, there will never be a
Speaker 1: bigger star in WWE than Charlotte Flair.
Speaker 3: Not because I don't think that Charlotte Flair is even
Speaker 3: in the conversation in the top five right now of
Speaker 3: the biggest stars in w W you know.
Speaker 6: So they brought those from n XT pretty quick, like
Speaker 6: Julia and Stephanie Vacaier. I I think they're gonna they're
Speaker 6: looking to refresh that scene a little bit right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Stephanie Mcare has gotten a really she
Speaker 3: got to, you know, a step up on Julia. But
Speaker 3: she's she's a better wrestler than Julia. I think Julia
Speaker 3: is a little bit more marketable. I don't know, that's
Speaker 3: just my feeling. But you know, Stephanie is a great wrestler.
Speaker 3: She's a great talent and by all accounts, an extremely
Speaker 3: hard worker, as is Julia. That's one of the things,
Speaker 3: you know, when you're looking at companies like CMLL and Stardom,
Speaker 3: they wrestle so much more thann A W and w W.
Speaker 3: I mean they just put on shows back to back
Speaker 3: to back night sometimes it's unbelievable. And they had the
Speaker 3: same wrestlers wrestling and on those back to back to
Speaker 3: back nights. Uh so, yeah, I mean, come on, but anyway,
Speaker 3: good luck to m I don't know if you guys
Speaker 3: saw the the uh the interview that thunder Rossa didn't.
Speaker 3: I can't remember who it is who is with She
Speaker 3: basically said, what do I have to do to get
Speaker 3: into it, you know, into a match that to show
Speaker 3: my tits?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: So, I mean thunder ross is one of those women
Speaker 3: that uh she what did she She challenged Britt Baker
Speaker 3: to her hair versus hair match. I think it was
Speaker 3: a little bit tug in cheek, but I mean if
Speaker 3: you can tell thunder Rossa wants it.
Speaker 1: I think a little bit she's upset that she's not
Speaker 1: in the women's titled scene more than she is. You know,
Speaker 1: we talked about how uh what's her name didn't I
Speaker 1: can't think of her name right now. She was in
Speaker 1: the finals with Monett. How she didn't lose her title
Speaker 1: she was injured. Was same with with thunder Rosis. She
Speaker 1: didn't lose the title. She had to give it up
Speaker 1: because she was hurt. And I don't think she's really
Speaker 1: got a title shot again.
Speaker 3: That well, yeah, hater did lose her title.
Speaker 1: Uh, well she lost to me because she was in
Speaker 1: we know why?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, does that happen? You know, even on
Speaker 3: the women's division. Uh, Julia Hart lost her TBS title
Speaker 3: because she was she was injured. I think she was
Speaker 3: death the loser title pretty soon anyway. But I've said
Speaker 3: it before. I don't think that it was uh Willow
Speaker 3: that was supposed to win the title. I think it
Speaker 3: was supposed to be her, Mercedes Monett. We're gonna Monet
Speaker 3: was gonna be hard for the.
Speaker 6: Title Texas too, right, Like she she wants to be
Speaker 6: on that show, like she's she's from Texas. She grew
Speaker 6: up in the l Passo seen like Tijuana and all that.
Speaker 6: Like she she's in that Texas crowd, like and she
Speaker 6: wants to be on that show for understandable reasons.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean, you know, hey, it's a
Speaker 3: perfect point.
Speaker 4: So but.
Speaker 3: You know, let's go back to what we're talking about,
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, Fighter Fast and even the summer
Speaker 3: blockbuster next week and even Grand Slam Mexico. There's some
Speaker 3: AW wrestlers that are just sitting there that may or
Speaker 3: may not be ready for return. There was a report
Speaker 3: about Wardlow on Fifel earlier today saying that Wardlow is
Speaker 3: clear to return and can return any time. The problem
Speaker 3: is is that Wardlow and they didn't I didn't see
Speaker 3: what what show it is, But Wardlow's got a role
Speaker 3: on a TV show, and and so it doesn't make
Speaker 3: sense for him to come in and wrestle right now
Speaker 3: with AW when he's not going to be able to contractually,
Speaker 3: you know, be there for AW because he's going to
Speaker 3: be filming for his TV show more often than that.
Speaker 3: So but there was also reports, and it's been conflicted
Speaker 3: because I saw a report that Juice Robinson was backstage
Speaker 3: at double or nothing. And I've seen multiple reports on
Speaker 3: that because some people are saying that he is ready
Speaker 3: to come back and ready to go, but I've also
Speaker 3: seen reports that he's actually not really ready to come back.
Speaker 3: But you know, look, when you're looking at some of
Speaker 3: these wrestlers that have not been on TV for a while,
Speaker 3: some due to injury, some due to storylines and time off,
Speaker 3: they don't have to come back and wrestle. They can
Speaker 3: come back and just be a mouthpiece, you know, until
Speaker 3: they are ready to wrestle. You could throw Eddie Kingston
Speaker 3: into that all. By all accounts, it doesn't seem like
Speaker 3: Eddie Kingston is one hundred percent there ready to go yet.
Speaker 3: But why can't he come out and and you know,
Speaker 3: flap his gums at Moxley or whatever, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. Uh, so you've got that, you know. On
Speaker 3: the women's side, Camille, she's stolen the contract. Why don't
Speaker 3: you use her to just stand there and stare down
Speaker 3: Megan Baine without saying anything, you know, for a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks. Because I think we can all agree we'd
Speaker 3: like to see Megan Baine and Camille either become partners
Speaker 3: or I don't want coming back.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, she's just not good enough to hang with
Speaker 5: everybody else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she's I think she's uh, she's just
Speaker 1: not at it. I wasn't impressed with the run when
Speaker 1: she was there. If they bring her back and she
Speaker 1: needs to do anything, it needs to be with Monette,
Speaker 1: and don't go up with Meghan because in that in
Speaker 1: that battle, she's not even close to ready, not even close.
Speaker 3: You know, you can argue either way. I mean, when
Speaker 3: you go by experience, Camille has a lot more experience
Speaker 3: and has been a champion a lot longer than Megan
Speaker 3: Bain has in her career. You know, you got Adam
Speaker 3: coland you've got Adam Copeland, You've got Christian Cage. It
Speaker 3: really hasn't been done anything in Ring in a while,
Speaker 3: and I think we're all expecting a Christian and Adam
Speaker 3: Copeland reunion of sorts before both of them get you know,
Speaker 3: too old to do anything contruy, you know, or contract,
Speaker 3: and even their contracts may run out before before they
Speaker 3: do anything like this. Look, uh, there's all kinds of
Speaker 3: things that can happen in aw especially like tomorrow night
Speaker 3: or you know, over the next few weeks.
Speaker 4: Anybody know the status of Keith Lee. I would love
Speaker 4: to see him that I miss.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to see him. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: if what is wrong with him is true where he
Speaker 1: has a heart some kind of heart condition, don't expect
Speaker 1: him back anytime soon, sudden.
Speaker 3: Let me break in her. Keith Lee did come in
Speaker 3: and say just this week that he's feeling a lot
Speaker 3: better and he's and he is planning on coming back.
Speaker 3: Cool yay, So that's not now he did he say when? No,
Speaker 3: but you know that's that you also have Look, we
Speaker 3: just had Harley Cameron get a k fabe injury because
Speaker 3: she wanted to take some time off, which is great
Speaker 3: because she's been, you know, frankly since October, she's been
Speaker 3: on TV practically every week. She's she's done tremendous work
Speaker 3: and she deserves some time off. Uh Ta Mellow was
Speaker 3: told to get ready she's coming back basically, so, uh
Speaker 3: we may see tam Ello come back, you know, to
Speaker 3: join up with Anna Jay a little bit.
Speaker 4: You know, you think we're going to see a full
Speaker 4: fledged up Bang Bang Gang reunion. I would pop for that.
Speaker 8: I'd love to see it.
Speaker 3: I would love that well, you know, Jay White has
Speaker 3: a broken leg. As I said earlier, Juice Robinson is
Speaker 3: a little bit banged up, I guess is the best
Speaker 3: way to put it. Still, and he's not as close
Speaker 3: as if people are saying.
Speaker 4: That he is.
Speaker 3: Thank you, this is this is true together. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: Tony conn really doesn't do that. He does he puts
Speaker 3: people on TV when they can actually go on TV
Speaker 3: and wrestle.
Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe we start a little bit because there's a
Speaker 8: lot of fan interest in a lot of people that
Speaker 8: we don't see and it would be nice to know
Speaker 8: where they are. I for one, would love to know
Speaker 8: what Eddie Kingston is doing. So I mean, put them,
Speaker 8: put them on TV talking crap, you know, just just
Speaker 8: for a second, keep them in mind.
Speaker 6: I think they did have him on for a second
Speaker 6: leading up to the All In thing last year with
Speaker 6: with Swerve and Danielson. Yeah, just for that one segment.
Speaker 8: I think, just keep keep them in our minds, keep
Speaker 8: our interests going, you know, the anticipation of when are
Speaker 8: they going to be back in the ring. You know,
Speaker 8: I'd like to know what some people are doing when
Speaker 8: they're not in the ring, and you know what's.
Speaker 3: Happening exactly, you know, and I don't have a problem
Speaker 3: with that. I mean, look all out last year sky
Speaker 3: Blue came out and crutches it actually got involved in
Speaker 3: a bump. Yeah, there was only a short segment, but
Speaker 3: hey there's sky Blue. Yeah yeah, you know, so, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know it makes sense. I mean, you can't just
Speaker 3: do it for gratuitously. It has to make sense. But yeah,
Speaker 3: why not. We've talked about this before on this podcast,
Speaker 3: but it does seem like I'm kind of I'm more
Speaker 3: and more on defense about this as time goes on,
Speaker 3: a women's tag team division? Do you think this is
Speaker 3: ever gonna happen?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 3: I mean, there's been so many opportunities, and Tony Kahan,
Speaker 3: as something will tell you, is one of those guys
Speaker 3: that he takes his time when he does anything, and
Speaker 3: it does seem like he is building toward a tag
Speaker 3: team division and maybe by twenty twenty seven will actually
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, show there fifth anniversary show of Man's
Speaker 1: entrance into WW or a W will be when we
Speaker 1: get that tag team's division. I mean, honestly, he takes
Speaker 1: his time, but you got to admit that over the
Speaker 1: past few weeks he has been showing more and more
Speaker 1: where he's tagging women up more so than he usually does.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah and Meghan and uh yeah, Penelope and Meghan
Speaker 4: and h then Anna and Harley. They've put on like
Speaker 4: two matches, like one at the pre show and then
Speaker 4: one last week, and both of them were absolute bangers.
Speaker 4: If that's like just a taste of what a whole
Speaker 4: women's tag division would be like, sign me up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we also just we just recently had
Speaker 3: sky Blitt and Julia Hart get back together literally on
Speaker 3: collision and they're tomorrow. Yeah, they are tagging tomorrow. And
Speaker 3: of course then you've got Tony sarm and Mina Shirakawa together.
Speaker 3: You've got Bekla that's sitting right out there, you know,
Speaker 3: waiting to tag with somebody. I believe, I honestly I've said.
Speaker 3: I made a post last week on the aw Panum subreddit.
Speaker 3: I'd like to see Hikaru Shida, who seems to be
Speaker 3: coming back soon, she's had visa issues. I'd like to
Speaker 3: see Shida decla and a heel tag team. I'd loved
Speaker 3: to see Cheta. I've loved to see Shiita turn heel.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, and I put them right up against
Speaker 9: sky Blue and Julia Hart because if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 9: it wasn't Cheetah that you know, accidentally put sky Blue
Speaker 9: out of.
Speaker 3: Work for a year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, in that Esports Arena run.
Speaker 3: I'd like to see Anna Jake I'm back, you know,
Speaker 3: from her Broken Nose and team with time Ello because
Speaker 3: AJ is a OG team and that kind of leaves
Speaker 3: Harley Cameron out. But Mercedes Monet is right there for
Speaker 3: Harley Cameron. And I'm sorry, even though Mercedes Monet is
Speaker 3: the standard. I guess as far as who aw is
Speaker 3: going to push through the moon, if you're gonna do that,
Speaker 3: you don't put somebody like, I don't know, Willow Nightingale
Speaker 3: with Mercedes Monett. Mercedes Willow Nightingales gonna be with Chris
Speaker 3: Statlander obviously, but you put somebody that's going to benefit
Speaker 3: from Mercedes Monett name on this, and I can't think
Speaker 3: of anybody that deserves it. Board and Harley Cameron, she's
Speaker 3: worked her tail off.
Speaker 6: Like Harley did more to get Mercedes over than Mercedes
Speaker 6: is done in or out of ring segments. She really did.
Speaker 6: That was great little program.
Speaker 4: Love it.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, let's face it, with Tony Storm versus
Speaker 3: Mercedes Monet at all and people have been saying, oh,
Speaker 3: they're gonna announce it, and I would love for them
Speaker 3: to announce, you know, TK to announce a women's tag
Speaker 3: division tournament that culminates at all In.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna do anything that's gonna take
Speaker 3: away from that match at all in. I really don't,
Speaker 3: because that match is probably one of the biggest selling
Speaker 3: points for all In. You know, and you know, and
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, Mercedes Bone and Tony Storm and
Speaker 3: women's in the women's division. You just cannot get bigger
Speaker 3: than that. You just can't.
Speaker 4: Plus, there's not enough time to set up a tournament
Speaker 4: like that's you believe it or not, because time is horrifying.
Speaker 4: July is next month. But it'd be a great thing
Speaker 4: to do like after like they may be the biggest,
Speaker 4: biggest show of the year, but you need to do
Speaker 4: you need to do stuff after and the great thing
Speaker 4: to do after all in, I'd.
Speaker 3: Like to see the women's tournament if they did one
Speaker 3: tag team tournament culminate at forbidden door, because you could
Speaker 3: have a tournament in stardom, for example, UH, with a
Speaker 3: couple of startup teams being in this tournament, and they
Speaker 3: wouldn't even have to come to the United States.
Speaker 6: Kocaman Hazuki are actually on hiatus from stardom right now
Speaker 6: and working internationally, so they would be available to come
Speaker 6: to the United States.
Speaker 1: Who is I would like to see him started at
Speaker 1: Forbidden Door and run through all out the month later.
Speaker 1: That way you could actually get some international team involved
Speaker 1: through the Forbidden Door and then possibly can you know,
Speaker 1: have it they're going to be in London for Forbidden Door,
Speaker 1: not as many restrictions to get movement there for different
Speaker 1: groups too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, for they if.
Speaker 1: They started it at Forbidden Door and ran at that
Speaker 1: month and until all out, you'd have I think you'd
Speaker 1: have a wider selection of women because I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just it just seems that to me to get
Speaker 1: a tag team. I'd love to see a women's tag
Speaker 1: team division, but I just don't think Tony Kahins the
Speaker 1: way he runs the women's division, I don't think it
Speaker 1: works right now. I really don't.
Speaker 6: Eight teams, it's tough to come up with. You can
Speaker 6: come up with.
Speaker 1: You can come up with probably as many teams as
Speaker 1: there are women on the on the roster if.
Speaker 3: You really want to. But yeah, yeah, you got two other.
Speaker 1: Belts that you have to also keep people in. And
Speaker 1: he's not doing a great job with the women's belts,
Speaker 1: he really, I mean, you have the same eight women
Speaker 1: going for two belts for the last year. That's another
Speaker 1: work that's not working your women's division well. And don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, you had some injuries in sky Blue who
Speaker 1: could have got a shot at the title, and Julia
Speaker 1: was out for a little while and Thunder came back
Speaker 1: and she was rough coming back and Hater's been hurt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you had some injuries, but you have so that's that's
Speaker 1: part of the problem with AW They have so much
Speaker 1: talent they're just not using and they've got to figure
Speaker 1: out a way to start using everybody. Even if you
Speaker 1: give people two weeks off, if they come out and
Speaker 1: wrestle tomorrow and they'll wrestle again until the Mexico Show
Speaker 1: and you bring other people out the next week, that
Speaker 1: would be great because you'd be getting more people involved.
Speaker 1: But until Tony figures this out, I think as a
Speaker 1: women's tag team division would just keep the women's division
Speaker 1: in too much, way, way, way too much mayhem, go ahead, I'm.
Speaker 6: Sorry, let's guess to that point, Like what is Yukosakazaki doing,
Speaker 6: Like she's arguably a top ten wrestler in the world,
Speaker 6: and she's under contract and she's working indie shows, Like
Speaker 6: what is happening?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: And where are those two sisters that we're going to
Speaker 8: wrestle with? Mercedes Monette At one point, like.
Speaker 6: I believe Charlotte's still she has a severe injury.
Speaker 1: I was wondering what happened.
Speaker 6: It might be back soon, okay, Like I know.
Speaker 4: She's been interviewed and she says she's perfectly happy working backstage,
Speaker 4: but I still miss seeing her wrestle, and I'm sure
Speaker 4: she miss doing it too well.
Speaker 6: If I if I have one complain about Tony Conn,
Speaker 6: it is probably the biggest complaint I have about him.
Speaker 6: It's it's the protection and lack of usage of the
Speaker 6: kind of monster wrestlers like, and that's everybody that's on
Speaker 6: the men zan women's side. He's way too protective with
Speaker 6: Nilo and are booking, and I think he sees like, oh,
Speaker 6: I don't have a way for her to get up
Speaker 6: and like get in this title mixed. So I'm just
Speaker 6: going to keep it on the shelf. I mean they
Speaker 6: do the same thing to the men's wrestlers, Like it's
Speaker 6: where what's Lance Archer doing? And I mean Lance Archer
Speaker 6: is not like necessarily a top car guy, but like
Speaker 6: they're just he's so protective of kind of the bigger dudes.
Speaker 6: And I'm not sure if it's just concerns about the
Speaker 6: the size of the roster in general and kind of
Speaker 6: having these guys come out and lose two smaller guys,
Speaker 6: but it's always kind of been an ongoing theme.
Speaker 1: I think it might be the fact that because that's
Speaker 1: what w W Easting's always been. Vince was a big
Speaker 1: man thing. You were a big guy, you succeeded regardless
Speaker 1: of who you were. That was what WWE was. And
Speaker 1: I think Tony Kahan might avoid the big guy syndrome
Speaker 1: for that fact, so that he's not looking like because
Speaker 1: so people don't call and say, ah, Tony's just using
Speaker 1: these guys like Vince used to do. He doesn't, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, That's what it seemed like to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah maybe, And I never thought i'd say this because
Speaker 4: I didn't used to like him, but he sort of
Speaker 4: won me over more big Bill please, I haven't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so over, I think I.
Speaker 8: Think that the don Callous Family is a good way
Speaker 8: to get a lot of women out there. The Callous
Speaker 8: Family is good. I can't stand stand them, but they
Speaker 8: could put a couple of women into the family and
Speaker 8: have some more women wrestlers out there that way.
Speaker 6: So that's my thought, was something to get some some
Speaker 6: women involved in hurt so actually.
Speaker 1: Show to be honest about that, they need another two
Speaker 1: hour show they have.
Speaker 6: And what they do.
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily agree with that, but I think too
Speaker 3: much wrestling is too much wrestling, and it's not really beneficial.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean, look, we have Decla coming back
Speaker 3: tomorrow night, and you know, wrestling your first match of
Speaker 3: MYRT night. It's going to be a squash match because
Speaker 3: they haven't announced who she's wrestling, but Decla's coming back.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a program
Speaker 3: with between her and Athena, because that's Athena's match in
Speaker 3: her home state at all. Ind she's got to be
Speaker 3: there too. I don't like Athena and thunder Rosa doesn't
Speaker 3: make sense, but Athena Decla a rematch between those two
Speaker 3: because They did wrestle at Wreussell Dynasty earlier this year
Speaker 3: January fifth, and Decla, I mean Athena did challenge decklad
Speaker 3: rematch even though she won, she challenged Decklador rematch, but
Speaker 3: this time in the United States. I think they had
Speaker 3: that seed planted back then. I think that's what's what's
Speaker 3: gonna happen for Decla. You know, I think that's the
Speaker 3: long play.
Speaker 4: Ah.
Speaker 3: But Decla, Look, she just took out Jamie Hayter, and
Speaker 3: people were saying that there's gonna be a Decla Jmi
Speaker 3: Hayter pewd. Now she took out Jaccla. She took out
Speaker 3: Jamie Hater, because that's what Decla does. She takes out people,
Speaker 3: all right. She as soon as she took out Jamie Hayter,
Speaker 3: she immediately took the Twitter and said me to Shira Kala,
Speaker 3: you're next. So even though Dekla is in a squash
Speaker 3: match probably tomorrow night, I wouldn't I wouldn't put it
Speaker 3: past her to show up in the uh Tony stored
Speaker 3: me to Shirikala against Ky Blue and Julia Hart match
Speaker 3: and take out me to Shira Kala.
Speaker 4: That'd be fun. Like I'm I'm.
Speaker 3: Bad me.
Speaker 4: I am not familiar with stardom. I'm sorry, but this
Speaker 4: this means Tekla is brand new to me, and I've
Speaker 4: seen her for all of thirty seconds and I thought
Speaker 4: she was incredibly cool. I want to see more of her.
Speaker 3: The thing about stardom okay.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 3: You know, people say all the time, Oh, the aw
Speaker 3: women's roster is stacked, Oh, the WWE roster women's roster
Speaker 3: are stacked. Oh the NXT roster are stacked, and oh
Speaker 3: the ROH roster in the women's division is stacked. None
Speaker 3: of them compared with stardom. I'm sorry, and I believe
Speaker 3: that wholeheartedly. The talent, the work rate, whatever.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: The thing with Thekla is, uh she's very similar to
Speaker 3: Minashikawa as far as where she stood in stardom. Uh
Speaker 3: Mina Shehrikala did elevate herself a little quite a bit
Speaker 3: higher than Tecla was and started, in my opinion, but
Speaker 3: uh Mina shirk Kwa for most of her run and stardom,
Speaker 3: she was a mid carter. She was not, you know,
Speaker 3: one of those beasts. She wasn't. She didn't carry the
Speaker 3: show was at her face. Really, it was a little
Speaker 3: bit lower. I would say the Mida shirk cow had
Speaker 3: start them her. Her character that she had just did
Speaker 3: not work in stardom for whatever reason. I loved it personally,
Speaker 3: but it didn't work and Startom So I don't know, Homosarty.
Speaker 3: Do you watched Stardom?
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, I watched a decent amount. I'm mostly TJPW guy,
Speaker 6: but I you know, I'll watch whatever's on Wrestling Universe.
Speaker 6: I'm mostly extend I TJPW, but uh yeah, I watched
Speaker 6: pretty decent amount of started.
Speaker 3: I do watch. I haven't kept up with t JB
Speaker 3: TJPW recently, but even t JPW they're stacked.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, they are now for sure. In the last
Speaker 6: couple of years especially they've Yeah, Takagi, that guy. Nobody
Speaker 6: finds rookies like that, dude, And I mean Cheri Ka
Speaker 6: was one of those, right, Like she was a model.
Speaker 6: She was a thirty two year old rookie coming in. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and she, you know, really reinvented herself and she's she's
Speaker 6: going to be big for the company because she There's
Speaker 6: a lot of people who do a little too much.
Speaker 6: I think in Aw need somebody to base for him.
Speaker 6: You don't have to base for anything. That mean shark
Speaker 6: Kwa does you just got a bump? So she she's
Speaker 6: going to be out there having good matches with everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I think she's going to be a big impact player
Speaker 6: for them.
Speaker 3: The thing about that CLA for me is she's small.
Speaker 3: She's not a big woman. She's very muscular, you know,
Speaker 3: and she's very flexible, you know. I mean obviously if
Speaker 3: you saw her debut, but she's five to one, she's
Speaker 3: the same high as ReHO. She's not a tall woman,
Speaker 3: but she's type. She's the type that what I say,
Speaker 3: she wrestles tall. She could go against me to share,
Speaker 3: not me to share Kwa, but Megan Bain, no problem,
Speaker 3: no problem putting putting Techlo against Meghan Bain. You know,
Speaker 3: Chris Statletter, she'll hold her own because she's she's that athletic.
Speaker 3: But the problem is is she going to be believable
Speaker 3: at five foot one and what is it one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifteen pounds? You know, So that's that's the drawbackward.
Speaker 3: But her character is where I think people are going
Speaker 3: to fall in love with Techla.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we she was a little miscast and starting like
Speaker 6: not to totally defend her work, in the ring there,
Speaker 6: but like not Skotora is a great wrestler and she
Speaker 6: never gets to wrestle. Like that's just the role of hate, right,
Speaker 6: Like Sayakamatani gets a past because she has the red belt,
Speaker 6: so she gets to wrestle the big matches and stuff,
Speaker 6: but like most people in hate are not there to wrestle.
Speaker 6: They're there to grind stuff out and screw up matches
Speaker 6: and like that's that's Japanese bullet Club. Like she she
Speaker 6: had pretty decent work rate when she was in d
Speaker 6: d M. Before Julia left, she she was okay in that.
Speaker 6: I think she she showed a little more, but you know,
Speaker 6: it's that's that's just kind of a way to tie
Speaker 6: slash hate, Like that's just what they do. They don't.
Speaker 4: Know.
Speaker 3: Julia and uh Tackler. We're in uh d d M
Speaker 3: Donaldo Mondo and they formed a tag team called Mafia
Speaker 3: Bella and they worked really well together.
Speaker 6: Uh they were both from Ice Ribbon prior.
Speaker 3: To so yeah, so they they did really well. The
Speaker 3: one thing that I'm looking forward to the most is
Speaker 3: if they put a microphone in deckless hand tomorrow night,
Speaker 3: because tackle is just on the normal day, her microphone
Speaker 3: promo persona is god.
Speaker 6: It's like Lady Gabe Kid. She's a putty mill.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would, I would say gay kid out a
Speaker 3: bad day because she just she has no filters. She
Speaker 3: is a censor's nightmare. It's yeah, I don't know. But anyway,
Speaker 3: let's let's go to our pot p reseect. But we
Speaker 3: can talk about anything. We can talk about fighter Fest,
Speaker 3: tonight's spider Fest, we can talk about whatever. He doesn't
Speaker 3: even have to be you know, aw related. Does anybody
Speaker 3: have a pop Marie want to bring up?
Speaker 8: How about Bear Bronson and and his thoughts on a
Speaker 8: you and not being used. He did an interview I
Speaker 8: think he did a podcast where he said that he
Speaker 8: was not used to his full potential. He was told
Speaker 8: that he would not go any farther than where he
Speaker 8: was now, and everyone was telling him that he just
Speaker 8: needed to be grateful for the time he did get
Speaker 8: in the ring and kind of not to aspire to
Speaker 8: do anything more. And if that's true, that's not very
Speaker 8: nice because people though, I mean, it's not nice. I
Speaker 8: mean people have hopes and dreams and aspirations and just
Speaker 8: to tell somebody, well, you just need to be satisfied
Speaker 8: where you are. I mean, that's not you know, that
Speaker 8: doesn't make to me that it makes someone want to
Speaker 8: work harder. You just kind of show up and don't
Speaker 8: put your all into the matches. You're just there. And
Speaker 8: I think that begins to show, you know, outwardly to
Speaker 8: us fans, we've all seen a wrestler too that just
Speaker 8: seems like they kind of showed up five minutes before
Speaker 8: the match started and don't really care what happens. So
Speaker 8: it's I don't know it. It just rubs me the
Speaker 8: wrong way a little bit. I saw his point where
Speaker 8: I can see his point too.
Speaker 3: I mean, but I mean, I don't know about you,
Speaker 3: but I've never looked forward to a Bear Bronze match
Speaker 3: ever in my life. Yeah, for truth to it too.
Speaker 3: I mean it's a cutthroat business.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, kind of talk in some ways some to
Speaker 6: some degree to that's like indistinguishable from an angle right,
Speaker 6: Like he's trying, he's trying to get booked, he's trying
Speaker 6: to draw interest, like he had an unfortunate I think
Speaker 6: they they liked, I forget what they were calling Bear
Speaker 6: Country at the end. I think they liked to use
Speaker 6: in them as kind of a low card gatekeeper tag team,
Speaker 6: and then the very unfortunate effect of what went down
Speaker 6: with his partner a couple at the same time with
Speaker 6: him being severely injured. You know, he was in a
Speaker 6: bad he was in a bad spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was guilty by association, which was really unfair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that sucks, but it's the way it goes.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you find out in any wrestling federation.
Speaker 1: Now there you're gonna be if you're part of the
Speaker 1: tag team, you're going to suffer that. And yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not cool, but it was an interview done to a
Speaker 1: person who'd been let go. And can we really take
Speaker 1: what he's saying as being the truth or is that
Speaker 1: something that, like you said, Homer, is it just he's
Speaker 1: saying it to try to build himself off up to
Speaker 1: get attention.
Speaker 3: Mm hm, call him hover over. Yeah, it's just it's
Speaker 3: just wait, because that's what you are. You are forever
Speaker 3: you are Now. I am literally.
Speaker 2: Do that.
Speaker 3: I'm literally calling him Homer from now on. God, I
Speaker 3: love this team anyway, anybody else have a pop?
Speaker 4: I do, go ahead, some of the Avengers. What is
Speaker 4: it going to take for Iron Man in Captain America
Speaker 4: to get on the same page. By that, I mean,
Speaker 4: what is it going to take for hang me in
Speaker 4: Adham Page and swear Strickland to set aside their grudge
Speaker 4: for the greater good? Will is trying, God bless him,
Speaker 4: but it doesn't seem to be working very well.
Speaker 1: About three weeks, that's what's gonna take.
Speaker 3: About three weeks, that's that's a very good point.
Speaker 1: It's good you've got about You've got about what forty
Speaker 1: there was forty two days on Sunday, So you're just
Speaker 1: seven weeks. You're under seven weeks away. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: you're six.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when you get to that three two to two
Speaker 1: to three week marking between there, that's when they're going
Speaker 1: to figure out something. Something's gonna happen. I don't like
Speaker 1: when people are sitting there saying, well, Will's good, turn heel.
Speaker 1: He's not turning heel. That would be the biggest mistake
Speaker 1: you can make is to turn with will ospray heel.
Speaker 3: There right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When someone earlier mentioned the fact that WWE is going
Speaker 1: through their heel stage, I'm sitting there going every freaking
Speaker 1: title holder in ae W's is a heel. This is
Speaker 1: the heel stage or ae W.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you can't meant the company as an end.
Speaker 1: I know what you meant, but it was just that
Speaker 1: was sitting there going no, please, no, don't turn Will.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna take Will turning the heel. It's gonna
Speaker 1: take something that is gonna happen between Max's crew and them.
Speaker 1: They're gonna end up getting the crap kicked out of
Speaker 1: him one night, and that's gonna turn them together. And
Speaker 1: about three weeks from now you'll see that happen, and
Speaker 1: you never know, it might be a Daniel Daniel, Daniel Daniel,
Speaker 1: that Brian Danielson might come out, or Eddie or a
Speaker 1: combination of the two, or even Darby because Darby's due
Speaker 1: to come back soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice to see Darby tomorrow night. I have a
Speaker 3: little bit of a different take on what it's going
Speaker 3: to take because you mentioned Will. I think I think it.
Speaker 3: I think it ultimately goes back to will Osprey. The
Speaker 3: problem with the will Osprey is nobody takes them seriously
Speaker 3: with that god forsaken haircut.
Speaker 4: That he has No no, I told you.
Speaker 1: We ago.
Speaker 3: After after the taping of Collision last week, Ausprey hopped
Speaker 3: on a plane and this is on Osprey's own post
Speaker 3: he you know, on social media. He hopped on a
Speaker 3: plane and went to the UK. Got off the plane,
Speaker 3: Alex winder windsor his missus as he calls her, Uh,
Speaker 3: picked him up at the airport and said, we've got
Speaker 3: to talk about that haircut, like the first. It was
Speaker 3: the first. I love you, honey, I miss you, honey.
Speaker 3: We've got to talk about that haircut. And he ended
Speaker 3: the post saying, I'm getting it cut tomorrow so we
Speaker 3: will see a different looking Will ask me because you know,
Speaker 3: I that haircut was just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I was a white guy. I adore him.
Speaker 8: I think the young bucks need to kidnaps were Stricklyn
Speaker 8: and Hangman rescue him and that's the that's the redemption
Speaker 8: arc there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Don't mind there is being burnt because one thing that
Speaker 4: I always struck me as kind of awkward was that
Speaker 4: when Uh Kenny and Will like after like they both
Speaker 4: like after Kenny got back from being sick, Kenny is
Speaker 4: all like, I will never ever ever trust you. By
Speaker 4: the end of the night, I was wrong. This guy's
Speaker 4: a good dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, is going to be based around a chant
Speaker 3: there's been a lot of chance going around. And I
Speaker 3: have a chant that I think I would like to
Speaker 3: hear tomorrow night, and that is, oh, crime a River.
Speaker 3: I really think, I really think that it's time for
Speaker 3: Jack Perry to come back.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And I think with Jack Perry, I think that brings
Speaker 3: back Christian Cage, you know, into a more a more
Speaker 3: into the spotlight. I guess I think that with Christian Cage,
Speaker 3: you got Adam Copeland coming back, you know, from his vacation,
Speaker 3: kfabe injury whatnot, because he's not injured. He was at
Speaker 3: they There was a clear video of him miked up
Speaker 3: at the Toronto Maple Leafs playoff game in the NHL,
Speaker 3: and he was having a blast. Of course maple Leaves.
Speaker 3: He wasn't really having a blast because Maple Leafs got
Speaker 3: killed the game he was in, but whatever. But you
Speaker 3: can see his clear disappointment in his uh, in his
Speaker 3: in his body language. But yeah, I mean we brought
Speaker 3: up Derby earlier. I would love to see Darby come
Speaker 3: back tomorrow night or on Fighter Fest, if not on
Speaker 3: fighter Fest, at least in summer Blockbuster next week. But
Speaker 3: I'd really like to see both. Look when you look
Speaker 3: at the Four Pillars of AAW. Sammy Guevara has been
Speaker 3: pretty much in ROH and the matches that he's had,
Speaker 3: even the matches he's had at AAW have been ROH matches. Basically.
Speaker 3: M jaff has only wrestled twice this year. Jack Perry
Speaker 3: and Darby Olut have not wrestled at all in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five. So I think we need to get these
Speaker 3: guys active. I guess it's the best way to put it.
Speaker 3: They are still the pillars so much as it is.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're really the pillars anymore, but that's
Speaker 3: what they are, you know, as far as the title goes.
Speaker 3: So that's my book three. I want to see Jack Perry.
Speaker 6: Mjf's going to have a little, a little something to
Speaker 6: say at a page if, if, and when he wins
Speaker 6: the belt in Texas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't even give me started. If Hangman Adam Paige
Speaker 3: does not win the belt at all in I personally
Speaker 3: don't think that anybody will show up for the next
Speaker 3: AW show. I just cannot imagine.
Speaker 4: I would.
Speaker 3: John Moxley comes out of all In as the champions,
Speaker 3: as the champion. That would be the single dumbest move
Speaker 3: that a president of a wrestling company could do, because
Speaker 3: I have been done with this for so long already. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that would be like the nail in the coffin.
Speaker 8: And if they don't find that belt, I'm sick of
Speaker 8: that briefcase. I can't take it anymore, so that this
Speaker 8: needs to end.
Speaker 3: Why I said this last week, and I don't know
Speaker 3: if you guys caught it, but at the end of
Speaker 3: that match, a double or nothing, at the end of
Speaker 3: anarchy in the arena, double or nothing. As the winning
Speaker 3: team Team a W was walk backing when they were
Speaker 3: kind of backing up the ramp. They were walking up
Speaker 3: the ramp, they were backing up the ramp.
Speaker 10: The briefcase was laying right there, and what did what
Speaker 10: did Kenny freaking Omega do?
Speaker 3: He kicked it.
Speaker 10: I'm like, a stupid son of a bitch, I'm sick
Speaker 10: of I was. I was like, I was so pissed
Speaker 10: off at Kenny Omega. I was like, why did you
Speaker 10: freaking kick it?
Speaker 4: Take it and run?
Speaker 1: You earned it. Don't forget I told you. Just a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, we were talking about Darby just
Speaker 1: because you want Hangman to win it. Darby was the
Speaker 1: pick when it first got started. That was tk's guy.
Speaker 1: TK is well known for following through on what he
Speaker 1: sets out in motion. So you're either going to have
Speaker 1: to have a three way with Darby at all in
Speaker 1: or they're not changing that time title with Death. I
Speaker 1: just don't see it happen.
Speaker 3: I'm not disagreeing with you at all because it's too
Speaker 3: tk it. He very may well make that match a
Speaker 3: three way, which would be the dumbest decision other than
Speaker 3: happy Maxley win it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, don't do that, I agree, I know, but you
Speaker 8: you know as well as I do.
Speaker 1: We talked about it, when we talked about the whole
Speaker 1: Devil thing, you know, that should never happened. They didn't
Speaker 1: need to do that match, that match that the whole
Speaker 1: storyline had been dead for a year, and he still
Speaker 1: did it, and he kept the title on Jade Cargill
Speaker 1: until that came. Yeah, I mean, this is and I
Speaker 1: love Tony kN to death, but he's got some real
Speaker 1: weaknesses that really do hurt him in the end. The
Speaker 1: women to run the women's division, right, he's making things
Speaker 1: and not being able to change from them. I have
Speaker 1: you know, I have no problem with the whole thing.
Speaker 1: That's going on. It's wrestling, it's it's what like Tony said,
Speaker 1: it's getting people there. They're having sales, they're getting sales,
Speaker 1: they're having they're doing advertise, they're making all their money
Speaker 1: and it's the same thing that's been going on for
Speaker 1: the last nine and a half months. He doesn't see
Speaker 1: a problem with it. And until TK thinks it's over,
Speaker 1: which is not going to be till Derby comes back,
Speaker 1: that could very well what happened, And I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just unfortunately for a lot for some people. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that still enjoy what's going on,
Speaker 1: and there's people who don't. Everybody's going to have a
Speaker 1: different opinion. But you know, Tk's got this inch that
Speaker 1: he wants to do things the way he wants to
Speaker 1: do them, and he's not going to change his mind,
Speaker 1: and so people might be real disappointed. Although you know,
Speaker 1: with it being in uh hang Man's home home territory.
Speaker 3: That really well, no, he's from Virginia.
Speaker 1: I thought he was from Texas. Never mind, that's just
Speaker 1: because for some reason I thought he I guess because
Speaker 1: he plays a cowboy. I thought he was. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of cowboys.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen the Virginian. I mean, you're old
Speaker 3: enough to Virginia.
Speaker 2: This is true, that's true.
Speaker 1: If you don't think about that. I mean, seriously, I
Speaker 1: want a Virginian when I was a kid. But you
Speaker 1: don't think about that. But you know, I would love
Speaker 1: to see Hangman win that title, but I don't. There's
Speaker 1: just I don't know. There's just something about Hangman that
Speaker 1: just doesn't doesn't have him winning it for me. I
Speaker 1: just don't know what it is about him.
Speaker 8: He's gonna win, he needs win.
Speaker 4: And I'm saying Max is my favorite wrestler. I'm the
Speaker 4: resident Death Writers apologist, but I will be disappointed if
Speaker 4: hang And doesn't win because the story is too perfect.
Speaker 4: It just needs the perfect end day.
Speaker 3: Jas. For the longest time, I was the biggest Blackpool
Speaker 3: Combat Club fan that you will find if you go
Speaker 3: on Reddit. My profile picture is still Blackpool combat Club.
Speaker 3: I just love the black Pool Combat Club. John Moxley
Speaker 3: was a part of it. I enjoyed it. I hate
Speaker 3: with every fiber of my being. Hate. There's no other
Speaker 3: word to use for it. Everything death Writers. It hasn't
Speaker 3: been from day one. I wouldn't mind if Sir Pentaco
Speaker 3: came out and accidentally won the title, you know, against
Speaker 3: John Moxley. And there's no person, there is no wrestler
Speaker 3: male or female on the AW roster that I would say, No,
Speaker 3: they shouldn't be John Moxley. It to just reach into
Speaker 3: a into a hat and pull out a name and
Speaker 3: give them the title. Get that sucker up of John
Speaker 3: Moxley is boring. It is boring. It is boring.
Speaker 4: Everything about the Death Writers, even their logo. Look at it,
Speaker 4: it's an owl. Owls are cool.
Speaker 3: I pretty much when the death Writers come on TV,
Speaker 3: I sown out. I have no interest in watching them.
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with when it comes to all In.
Speaker 3: When it comes to all In, I probably will not
Speaker 3: watch the hat Him Page in John Moxley match.
Speaker 4: Well, you're not going to see it end. Then I.
Speaker 3: Will be so like, I'll have ada the entire time.
Speaker 3: I just be like, I will seriously be like, if
Speaker 3: Hangman Haddan Page doesn't win this, I'm gonna just be
Speaker 3: pissed off, genuinely pissed off over professional wrestling TV show.
Speaker 3: You and me both, you know, it's just like and
Speaker 3: you know, and I said it before and I'll say
Speaker 3: it again. When the Outrunners were getting their push. I said,
Speaker 3: point blank, if the Outrunners win this these a W
Speaker 3: tag team titles, I'm done because they I just don't
Speaker 3: enjoy them. I don't enjoy them at all. They're great people,
Speaker 3: and I think they're delightful. They just suck in the ring.
Speaker 3: And you know the same way I feel about Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 8: You know, now, let know any Kingston slander.
Speaker 1: No, it's one guy. He's the one guy. You're wrong.
Speaker 1: If he was the one guy they brought out the
Speaker 1: gr that tight off mark that you have a fit.
Speaker 3: Oh, if Eddie Kingston won the title off of John Moxley,
Speaker 3: I would not have a fit. I was very Any
Speaker 3: male or female wrestler in the company comes out and
Speaker 3: even accidentally beats John Moxley, I would not be upset.
Speaker 3: You know, like John Moxley falls and hits his head
Speaker 3: and like you gotta pin him. Well, he's he's on
Speaker 3: called bring the bell you won? You know kind of thing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I was seriously, I mean I would be I would
Speaker 3: not be upset if anybody even accidentally won the champion
Speaker 3: of John Moxley's current run. And again, let me stress
Speaker 3: this current run is the dumbest run I've ever seen
Speaker 3: with an a with any world championship in wrestling. The
Speaker 3: only one, the only one that was possibly dumber was well,
Speaker 3: the two was Vince Russo and David Arcat, but they
Speaker 3: were short. They were short.
Speaker 8: There are some people, though, that are one hundred percent
Speaker 8: behind this death Writers thing, like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean everybody, everybody has their taste in what's going
Speaker 1: on in wrestling. That's that's the way we always talk
Speaker 1: about that. I'll have a problem with any of it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that bad. It's a different way
Speaker 1: of doing things. It's been changed a little bit. I
Speaker 1: blame part of that on the fact that Darby has
Speaker 1: not been around for two months or whatever because he
Speaker 1: decided he wanted to climb the mountain instead of wrestling
Speaker 1: and said.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 3: Let me say this and I'll shut up about it
Speaker 3: completely again. My disdain of the death Writers, John Moxley's
Speaker 3: run with the aw World Championship and the death Writers
Speaker 3: as a whole is simply my opinion. And I don't
Speaker 3: hold anything against the morons who like it.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, they're uh.
Speaker 1: I's trying to sound like Jim Cornett, are you tennis
Speaker 1: racket in hand there, my friend.
Speaker 3: No, no, because the difference between me and Jim Cornette
Speaker 3: is that I wouldn't be upset if Rehope beat John
Speaker 3: Moxley fort the a W World Championship, just.
Speaker 1: For that fact. I think they should have real beating
Speaker 1: because that would piss off Oh.
Speaker 4: A heart attack.
Speaker 1: I think real necklace come out together of you and
Speaker 1: you his body to knock out Moxley and take the title.
Speaker 3: I've gotta I gotta say one more thing, because Homer,
Speaker 3: what do you think about all this?
Speaker 6: I think Death Writers is fine. I think the angle's fine.
Speaker 6: I his his title matches have not been great. His
Speaker 6: match with Copeland was bad, his match with Swerve was fine.
Speaker 6: People just didn't like the ending. It's you know. I
Speaker 6: don't think his matches have been great in general. Over
Speaker 6: this run. I think he has leaned into the MMA stuff,
Speaker 6: which I find incredibly boring. But as an angle, I
Speaker 6: think it's fine. I think they've done a little bit
Speaker 6: of a poor job telling it. I think Moxley has
Speaker 6: been a big part of that. But the angle makes sense, right,
Speaker 6: Like the angle is essentially that like Swerve got our
Speaker 6: page got beat by fragile Phil and Moxley had to
Speaker 6: come back and save the day. And then Swerve gets
Speaker 6: beat by fragile Danielson and instead of waiting around to
Speaker 6: get asked to save the day, he takes him out
Speaker 6: like even though that's his boy, they haven't done a
Speaker 6: good job kind of drawing that out, but overall, like
Speaker 6: that's why I think Page has to be the guy
Speaker 6: to win, no matter what, no matter what they had,
Speaker 6: and potentially in mind with Darby as kind of like
Speaker 6: an O G guy, there there's no fan support for
Speaker 6: that right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the story, it's it's mox wants to be beaten.
Speaker 4: He wants someone to step up and prove that they
Speaker 4: are strong enough and hard enough to overcome all of
Speaker 4: the interference and bs and beat him and be that
Speaker 4: guy that the company needs. That's the story.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I think Swerve like to talk about like
Speaker 6: what do these guys need to do to get together?
Speaker 6: I mean a little bit. It's got to be Swerve
Speaker 6: understanding that he failed in the same way that Page did,
Speaker 6: and he needs to if he wants to get the
Speaker 6: belt back, who would he rather get it off of? Right?
Speaker 6: Like he if he helps Page win that belt like
Speaker 6: Paige's a match for sure, and certainly if you know
Speaker 6: he's he's he's in line for it, and he's not
Speaker 6: going to get a rematch with Moxley anytime soon. So
Speaker 6: I think he's got to get over the selfishness and
Speaker 6: hard feelings a little bit and understand that, you know, temporarily,
Speaker 6: it's a it's a thing that benefits him.
Speaker 8: That's a good point.
Speaker 3: No, Honestly, one of the things that people don't talk
Speaker 3: about with the death Writers is they're called the death Writers.
Speaker 3: Why they come into the arena on the back of
Speaker 3: a pickup truck. I mean, it's not really you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's really not I don't know. Well, no, why
Speaker 3: why is it death right? Why is it called the
Speaker 3: death Writer? It doesn't do anything like that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're just riding around in.
Speaker 4: That truck because that's what Max's nickname in Japan was,
Speaker 4: and he just sort of applied it to the whole
Speaker 4: group because it sounds cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ultimately, we have a group that rides the back
Speaker 3: of a pickup truck, comes out what they championship belt
Speaker 3: that hasn't been seen since I mean this post. When
Speaker 3: you think about it, somebody if a baby was conceived
Speaker 3: because the championship belt was basically hidden right at Russell
Speaker 3: Dream last year. If a baby's conceived on the night
Speaker 3: of Russell Dream, when the AW World Championship was hidden,
Speaker 3: that baby would almost be born. By now. The woman
Speaker 3: would be in her third tri master. It's been far
Speaker 3: too long since we've seen the AW World Championship and
Speaker 3: I don't care to hear another passionately incoherent John Moxley
Speaker 3: promo about it either.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't want to talk about it anymore.
Speaker 4: I don't think they're in coherent. I know exactly what
Speaker 4: he's talking about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think there's any more Sea Legs and
Speaker 6: death writers though. I just it has.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's time.
Speaker 8: Maybe there is no belt. Moxley himself is the belt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the point. Moxley is the champion and the ship.
Speaker 1: When Hangman wins and he's gonna straps around his waist
Speaker 1: there you Yeah, that's sorry, he's gonna wear them.
Speaker 3: Don't know.
Speaker 4: The champion. Being a champion is a state of being.
Speaker 4: It's not a physical thing. It's something that's in you.
Speaker 4: It's what you are.
Speaker 8: That's a good point. Maybe Moxley will give his earring
Speaker 8: to the new champion, and that will be the way
Speaker 8: that they go. You get the earring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's a new champion. Maybe the new champion
Speaker 3: will just carry around.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe you get Wheeler Udah with this World Championship.
Speaker 8: You get the friendship wheel.
Speaker 4: God fight in my respect, you may have my.
Speaker 3: Yeah, miss be we were you know, the outpaca, that
Speaker 3: the dark haired oltpaca that wants to be a real boy.
Speaker 3: So z oh my god, is it the time?
Speaker 4: It is? Uh?
Speaker 3: Anyway, So look guys, uh Tonight fighter Fest four hours
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Speaker 3: Blockbuster and the week following that Grand Slam Mexico. After
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Speaker 3: until till all in all in Texas. So this is
Speaker 3: a very important stretch for a w you know, I'm
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Speaker 3: Spider Fest is four hours long, we will not be
Speaker 3: doing all the talk after Dynamite this week, nor will
Speaker 3: we be doing it next week because it is again
Speaker 3: a four hour Dynamite next week, two four hour shows
Speaker 3: back to back weeks. Wish, but Anyway, we will be
Speaker 3: back next Wednesday for Ignition, so I hope you guys
Speaker 3: will will join us for that. Guys, thanks for coming.
Speaker 3: This was a lot of fun tonight. We had to.
Speaker 3: We had some last and that's what it's all about.
Speaker 3: You know, we all have different opinions, but I think
Speaker 3: ultimately respect everybody's opinions, at least I do, except for
Speaker 3: the dumb ones. The dumb ones are usually mine, So
Speaker 3: come on, you know, so look, you know, I hope
Speaker 3: everybody will come back on Tuesday night next week, which
Speaker 3: is when we record this and so we can publish
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