Speaker 1: We're a fellow by the name of Benjamin. He's calling
Speaker 1: from Australia. He's an Aussie and I'm so honored to
Speaker 1: bring him to the microphones. Benjamin, you're on another side
Speaker 1: of Midnight with the Lionel.
Speaker 2: Lionel High. Yeah. I was driving city bus last night,
Speaker 2: which is my time over here in Sydney, and I
Speaker 2: had you streaming on the radio. I never said it before. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it because I saw, Wow, this guy he's
Speaker 2: like a lawyer, and he's practiced law and stuff, and
Speaker 2: he knows he sings like a lawyer, so you know.
Speaker 2: And then I tuned in today like I just brought
Speaker 2: my son around this new sailing club because the sailing
Speaker 2: season starts here soon and it's a whole new club
Speaker 2: meeting all these different people. Yeah.
Speaker 1: May I ask you a stupid question, good sir? What
Speaker 1: time is it right now in Sydney?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right now? It says that I'm an album four
Speaker 2: twenty four pm.
Speaker 1: Isn't that something? I just don't ask me why. I'm
Speaker 1: just fascinated. I'm just fascinating anyway. But this is so interesting.
Speaker 1: You stream, you listen to us, How, by chance, per
Speaker 1: chance did you happen to find our our humble show.
Speaker 1: And and isn't it amazing to you how you can
Speaker 1: hear something as clear as day being across the world.
Speaker 1: I marvel at that, sir.
Speaker 2: Look honestly, my father was an electrical engineer for the
Speaker 2: sign company here in Australia. So I used to get
Speaker 2: free fine cells to America since I was like sixteen
Speaker 2: years old and I had a female friend. She was
Speaker 2: chilling squad at.
Speaker 1: Minnel you, Doug, really fly devil.
Speaker 2: She's an girl, and he was right real, She's always
Speaker 2: been a good girl. And I used to call her
Speaker 2: when when I was sixteen. I used to call her
Speaker 2: on the sign after I first met her. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: that's been calling New York now for thirty four years
Speaker 2: from me. So I'll tell you about this court case,
Speaker 2: right because I went into court because you, like you
Speaker 2: were saying last night, oh yeah, just get a court
Speaker 2: and it'll blow your mind all the crazy stuff you see.
Speaker 2: And sometimes I do do that. And so I'm sitting
Speaker 2: in court, you know, and it.
Speaker 1: Was this is this is this is a case in Sydney, right, Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And you know they were weeks when you
Speaker 2: get to the more senior lawyers they over here, they
Speaker 2: wear weeks, so you know they're really they're like heavyweight boxes,
Speaker 2: you know, they were weak. And anyway, the case, this
Speaker 2: was the case. Right there's a lady sitting right next
Speaker 2: to me, like I'm just a spectator, and she's sitting
Speaker 2: right next to me. She's in a wheelchair, and she's
Speaker 2: really upset, right, and because the kids, the young guy
Speaker 2: that put her in that wheelchair that she I think
Speaker 2: she had purposely fine legs to walk around on before
Speaker 2: that she couldn't walk. She was in a wheelchair for life. Probably,
Speaker 2: I guess he was just getting grilled by like the prosecutor,
Speaker 2: which was, you know, a wig wearing barrister or lawyer
Speaker 2: or whatever. And I think even the barrister was going
Speaker 2: a bit sussed on this guy, the prosecutor, because this
Speaker 2: kid ruined her life. And I couldn't imagine as a
Speaker 2: professional driver, because I've been a professional full time taxi
Speaker 2: and bus driver for like well over a decade so
Speaker 2: and I never ever put anyone remotely close, you know, like,
Speaker 2: and so I couldn't understand what this kid was doing.
Speaker 2: But from what I gather watching the court case, he'd
Speaker 2: just come around it like a turn. He's rolling in
Speaker 2: the car of all his young kind of nineteen year
Speaker 2: old buddies, and you know they must have been goose
Speaker 2: enough royally because this lady was just walking along next
Speaker 2: to the cars in a perfectly safe place, you know,
Speaker 2: like when you come out shopping or whatever, and he
Speaker 2: just kind of walk, you know, and and they had
Speaker 2: no reason what to Like, I've been driving for so long.
Speaker 2: I've driven twenty four hour taxi ships where I just
Speaker 2: sleep like four hours at international airport before I load
Speaker 2: up there and everything else. You're just driving delirious after
Speaker 2: twenty two hours joke. And I've never done more than
Speaker 2: just like, you know, very little, Like I don't know
Speaker 2: how you can put a lady in a wheelchair for live.
Speaker 1: Unless what was the ultimate what was the ultimate outcomes
Speaker 1: or what happened with his ultimately was was the left off?
Speaker 2: He just got He just got a light wrap across
Speaker 2: the knuckles, because what were you having. Defense lawyer came
Speaker 2: with all these sub stories that he was got a
Speaker 2: medal given to him by the Rural Firefighting Service and
Speaker 2: he was the sister you know, all this nonsense, how
Speaker 2: we you know, stood up for him and just garbage.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. What were you The lady was
Speaker 2: sitting next to me, ready to murder this guy and
Speaker 2: yelling out in open court or her fury, and the
Speaker 2: judge just sat there and didn't stop her for contempt
Speaker 2: or anything like. She just let it all slide.
Speaker 1: May I asked you a question, what would what would
Speaker 1: you have done? If I had said you didn't? Excuse me.
Speaker 1: We have a special guest today in the courtroom. His
Speaker 1: name is Benjamin. Benjamin, you get to sentence this fellow.
Speaker 1: What would you have sentenced him to?
Speaker 2: I put him in jail two years, and I would
Speaker 2: for four years. Wow, I'd have to know the case. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean these are just my perception. So maybe there's
Speaker 2: something wrong there. I'm just telling you my perception.
Speaker 1: What you're bringing up the right. Well, the thing is
Speaker 1: you're bringing up the idea of one of this idea
Speaker 1: of called justice. I gave up on that years ago.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what justice means. You have to
Speaker 1: look at what happens. Two things happen. This is important.
Speaker 1: There is the effect it has on the individual, and
Speaker 1: then there's the effect that has on the people. Now,
Speaker 1: for example, if you're an individual and you are a criminal,
Speaker 1: you can say, you know what, I don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about it because I just received the medal and
Speaker 1: they're going to let me off. And okay. However, if
Speaker 1: I come to your fine city of Sydney and you
Speaker 1: pick me up at the airport and you say listen,
Speaker 1: bloke or whatever your name is, let me tell you
Speaker 1: some whatever you do here, don't hit people with your car,
Speaker 1: especially old ladies. They will hang you. You understand that.
Speaker 1: Don't to do this.