Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons, throwing some ice,
mixing some vodka. It's Colored a podcast from the Mac
of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor
Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram. It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Boy, Hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pawn on.
Thank you for telling a friend. That's how we spread
the word about the pirate ship. And look who's a board. Whoa,
he's back, baby back, I'm back with a benger's baby.
He'm shaking money making tar power.
Speaker 3: Many are twenty four to seven of the one your
mother warned you about dougging fresh in the.
Speaker 2: Our neighbors are gonna be a complaint. Fun damn, come on,
you can't do that.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 2: Well, well, I guess you could next door. It's a
whole lot of them. There a whole bunch of yeah
stuff going on.
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Brother? Oh? Good stuff? Yeah, yes, good stuff?
Speaker 3: Been too long?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I feel like a booty call these days.
Speaker 3: Just how's it going like? I'll give you a call
when I watch it. Just well, I'm I'm come over
and make you feel good. I leave for another month.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way I like it, Doug. I mean
that's basically that's you feel that I keep coming shumming
it up. But I mean, you know, just like most
women in my life. I mean, uh, I'm kidding, yeah,
I I I don't know. Our schedules are. Yeah, you
know what I mean. In stalls a lot of things
in my life. My schedule now, but uh, it's been great.
I've been, you know, going through a bunch of stuff.
I've got basketball things with my son, it's good. Got
the men, yeah, mental health stuff that I'm doing. So
it's all been pretty good. Got one hundred average so far, Bud.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how many there's four.
Speaker 2: Classes with big paper. I mean this is intense, ship, dude.
This is for mental stuff. Yeah, it's all it's licensed
mental health counseling. So when I'm done, I take the license.
I can see people, I can diagnose. Oh you're doing it.
Oh that's right, you're getting your masters. Yeah. So I
mean it's intense. This is going to turn into Frasier,
That's what they were joking about. And uh, I'm actually
looking right now at a building to buy, to build
out and put a bunch of studios in and Uh,
we'll see if that happens. I'm I'm talking to some people.
Get so much on your plate. I great stuff though,
you know what I mean that it's great stuff Like
moving forward with all this to an actual facility that's freestanding.
It's ours that I can do a bunch of different
things in I think, is uh kind of cool. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be a Fairport or where?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I want to stay in Fairport? Yeah, of course
you do. And I want to stay closer to the canal. Yes,
this is home.
Speaker 3: Yes, this is doubling different from.
Speaker 2: You got it buddy? How you know? No? Ye? Oh
my god, I love that play. I don't drink as
much anymore. I really don't.
Speaker 3: I fool.
Speaker 2: I put something in the glass, but it's not alcohol, Okay,
you know what I mean. Like, if I'm out, I'm
usually I will drink. I'm not saying I don't drink.
People are like, oh, fuck you man, I saw you
like a month ago. Yeah, all right, Doug. I need
to know about what's happening with Doug. I believe there's
been a fifteen years of fundraising for breast cancer? Am
I right on the ears? Yes? And I think the
way I was seeing it. I heard you got a commendation,
a proclamation, proclamation, and I am just going I was
thinking about this, and I go, my god, I don't
think I know any man who has spent fifteen years
thinking about breasts and people refer to him as a hero.
I do you know what I'm saying? You know what
I'm saying? Hey, right, I mean that's it. You're like
a sum I a of boobs right now. You could
see a woman walk by thirty four or see underwire
hints of confidence, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Well, between the jobs I've had and the fund raise.
Speaker 2: I work with a lot of brass, a lot of brass.
But I heard that there was the proclamation. Did what
is the What is a proclamation? So well let me
you want me to talk about the event first? What's
the event? Bowling?
Speaker 3: I know I just talked to you about it. Yeah,
but fifteen years.
Speaker 2: At bowler roll right, well not all bowler, but it.
Speaker 3: Was a fifteen year and first time in fifteen years
I've had all full lanes, thirty two lanes. There was
teams of six and some had a few extra. Yeah,
the first time. So because honestly, if I didn't have that.
I wasn't gonna do bowling anymore.
Speaker 2: Last year, five teams didn't show up. Wow, that sucks.
Speaker 3: And it was right after my Mond's death. I'm like,
you know what if this happens again next year, I'm
I'm gonna be done. Just stick to golf. But no,
there was actually more people there and we broke some records.
We do a playing card, raffle twenty dollars a card.
We went through six decks, damn, thirty five prizes and
then we went out all night. You're saying you don't
drink anymore. I was drinking that day.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm not saying I don't.
Speaker 3: It's not the World Series every week, but that day was.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't surprised myself how much you drank?
Speaker 3: How much I drank? Yeah? Could you know you can
still swing the bad home running?
Speaker 2: Hang you're you're in You're exactly in your mid fifties.
You've been drinking since what age? What was the age
you first got drunk?
Speaker 3: Do you know twenty twenty one?
Speaker 2: In college? Oh? My god? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I didn't go to parties when I was in high
school or why.
Speaker 2: I was invited?
Speaker 3: I didn't I kind of got into the jack club later.
And yeah, I think there was one or two parties
that went to.
Speaker 2: In Jesus Christ. I threw all the parties, right, you
how I throw the parties? I were breast, Yes, that's right.
I was fourteen when I first got drunk. Really, I
remember standing in my kitchen with my friend and God
Michael passed away DWI accident nineteen ninety three summer in
nineteen ninety three. We stood, and he was a little
bit younger than me, he might have been twelve.
Speaker 3: Twelve getting drunk.
Speaker 2: We stood. It took like two beers, right right, I mean,
and we stood in our kitchen and we're slapping each
other across the face because we couldn't feel our faces.
I remember this distinctly. So anyway, And and what what
going to open up a mental health?
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I know where you've been, missus Williamson.
Speaker 2: I'm here.
Speaker 3: All you need is this right across. Okay, hold on
a little, take your dentures out of it.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that I'm going to open up anything.
I don't know. I would like to tie it into this.
I at this point in my life, I and you
and I are probably talk about this in this podcast
a little bit, but sort of reinventing yourself, right, Yes,
And I don't. I feel like I have a lot.
I'm fine in a lot of ways that I don't
need to work worry about certain situations. You know what
I'm saying. I'm not worried about how am I gonna
get food on my table? And it's not a worry
for me. Nice, it's wonderful. That's a really, really wonderful thing.
But I worked hard to get there, so this stuff
I can take the time to massage into the way
I want it, and it's taken me two years to
get to that point, you know, so that that's kind
of nice. But anyway, I want to know about this.
So the proclamation, this is the thing I want to
see because somebody told me that there's a video and
I have been neglecting. Why are you laughing? Why you're laughing?
I have neglected to look at this and it has
been on my list. Check out Doug's video.
Speaker 3: Or we're not going to watch it today because I
have not watched it.
Speaker 2: Okay, but I heard that there was a breakdown, not
a breakdown, a fucking breakdown. I heard there was sobbing,
like your voice went away. Your voice went away. And
then you're coming over and you're showing props from the
different years that you turned into caps, you turned into
our top showing different stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, who is this is this hillman? I
don't know what the fuck.
Speaker 2: He's talking about. No, I'm fucking with you.
Speaker 3: So before the breast cancer bowling, Chris Thompson called me
and she goes, just so you know, we're warding you
were giving you a proclamation. And I said, it's great,
what what is it? She goes, well, you're gonna be.
Speaker 2: Honored.
Speaker 3: Josh Jensen from Assemblyman John Jensen from Greece coming in.
Speaker 2: He just wants your vote on Tuesday.
Speaker 3: That's all this from the local one thirty five. Okay,
is going to give you a proclamation for all your
years of dedication and fundraising. So I go, that's very.
Speaker 2: How did it? How did it feel when you got
that phone call? Tell me what? Well?
Speaker 3: I had to go to Google and see what proclamation was.
Speaker 2: That's a big word.
Speaker 3: Yeah sure so, and my mind was already on the
bowling events. So but it seems very nice, very honored.
You know that they're taking their time to distinguish me
is being one.
Speaker 2: Of their Yeah, long time I think volunteers. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we get through the bowling and then the week
after was at the coalition. So obviously I haven't done
this alone. As events got larger.
Speaker 2: I helper's crew.
Speaker 3: You know, I have my regulars now. So I was
just I just went through all my photo folders, picture
folders through the years, and pretty amount of Walgreens. I
got some phone board and so I made five six
over fifteen years. So those are my those are your props.
Those are my props.
Speaker 2: You brought them all, Yeah, because came in with the crew.
Was there that that was you were trying to do
it my parents, You were trying to honor every your
friends who have helped you over the way. Yeah. I
got to think, Doug.
Speaker 3: And you're so Also, I'll say this people we lost
because one of the ladies was you know, morecotious. So
when something man was asking me, you know what made
you do this? I go wow, I just got into it.
I was at a fundraiser. I'm like, wow, this is great.
Five hundred people. I could do something like that. And
then the first year I think we had sixty six people,
and then next year and next year and year four
we had people. You know, lady came up to me.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget it.
Speaker 3: She just started crying, saying, you my daughter was just diagnosed.
He you're helping her. I think that's where I got
a little weeping. And then I'm like, yeah, and the
people we lost. Diana mar Koshe I met her in
my fourth year, her fifth year her cancer came back,
and her.
Speaker 2: Sixth year I was at her funeral. Yeah, So what
I your beautiful woman, I will ask you this. I'm
thinking your laundry basket has to have more pink in
it than the most fourteen year old girls named Madison.
That's what I'm thinking, Because you got right. I'm just
saying all the but that's the question that popped my eye. Go,
I want to see his laundry basket now that he's
did it is for fifteen years, and everything's pink with
the Susan B. Coleman.
Speaker 3: Right, So I have a couple pink sure, no or
black with pink. If I wear pink, my nipples out
and I just can't have really pink turns down there
always pink gotta be careful. Yeah, Johnny cash and Preast
can raising money.
Speaker 2: But let me ask you a very serious question, because
I know that I like to stay on the lighter
side of things. But that's all right. What's the moment
or the story or the turning point that made you
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Series big first, Of All, ernie clement who Is from
brighton and has been bounced around a. Little bit he
was With The white sox now At The blue jays is.
Unfucking believable this. Kid is it's such a fun thing to.
Watch him last night he hits a beautiful double, two
outs it gets. On baits unfortunately the guy after him.
Strikes OUT but, i mean it's been fun to watch
this kid and.
Speaker 3: THE series i usually don't want all the, uh GAMES
but i have, been WATCHING.
Speaker 2: So i wasn't gonna watch it All and, i'm like you,
know what there's. NO sports i just like having sports
on Sometimes when i'm editing podcast or if i'm, cleaning
something and, you know basketball and, Every night yeah THERE
is i could GO, to NBC but, i thought let
me check this out because it's the world. Too HOCKEY
and i used to, Love. BASEBALL doug i had the.
Sticker albums as, A kid i collected baseball cards AND
then i just sort of. Fell, off YEAH once i
turned about fourteen. Years old there was something else on. My,
mind buddy it's something, TO nails i.
Speaker 3: Go tag.
Speaker 2: Really wasn't but so from baseball cards, to, playboys well your,
subscriptions are to be quite honest, WITH you i had.
A playboy i told YOU when i was in. THIRD
grade a kid in second grade stole his, dad's playboy
brought it on, the BUS and I think i had
a boner for the. Entire day and he gave me,
the CENTERFOLD and i remember and she was there spread
like out and she had a. Big BUSH and I
think i physically humped that picture every day from nineteen
eighty five to probably about nineteen. EIGHTY seven i. Don't
know i'm kidding because it was probably eighty one to,
Eighty three but, EITHER way i was. Really young and
a lot of that has to do with just have
a fucked. Up background that's all. You need, SO yeah,
i DID but. I didn't i played baseball as. A
kid i, loved it and then it just sort of.
Went AWAY and i always wondered WHY did, I Stop
and i'm not really SURE why i stopped, Doing it
but watching this has. BEEN great, i, mean god damn
the GAME that i, couldn't stay that's what brought. ME
in i turn On the new the next day and
they're going on about the game that went till three
o'clock in.
Speaker 3: The, morning, yeah, right okay Game But east.
Speaker 2: COAST time i didn't even turn.
Speaker 3: IT nine i was like six and a half hour
and they're going one of.
Speaker 2: The most, amazing GAMES and, i, Go yeah i'm NOT sure.
I would, I mean i guess if, you're there it's
nail biting and. All that But then, I'M like i
should check. This out And then, i'm like, holy shit
look At The. BLUE jays, i mean you've got an
unbelievable team with unbelievable TALENT. In la they. BOUGHT it i.
Get it. It's fine we all bitch. ABOUT it i
think it's great. For baseball make them, the, enemy right
you got? An enemy and, then uh, You Know Toronto,
ed's canada but we got a guy from here from where, we,
are Right.
Speaker 3: It's canada but it's Mainly. All, AMERICANS yeah i mean
it Is.
Speaker 2: All Americans and i'm watching this last NIGHT and, I,
go GOD and i, WAS hoping i. Was hoping they
seem to have little Moments the jays that they were
going to, come back, come back, come back and that
picture is really. Really good well here's the. Bad part
guy smacks, one right it gets past the outfield and
get stuck in. The wall get Stuck, IN yeah i
saw ground. Ground double like the guys throw up. Their,
HANDS yeah, i go how in the fuck does? That
happen that ball is moving at what one hundred and
ten miles an hour minimum off.
Speaker 3: The bat just right to see you fucking by, the
way it.
Speaker 2: Just stuck it just stopped like the guy's gonna play
it off. The Wall and, i'm like this is.
Speaker 3: Fucking amazing you would have if he would have picked,
that up then all, bets, Off right but he knew
not to write it was a ground.
Speaker 2: Room Double but, i'm, like shit you almost wish it
just went up a. Little bit, it's like how in
the fuck?
Speaker 3: Did that and that's why everybody was waiting for that
six and a. Half hour they're waiting for, that play,
that magic that high, you know that, home run or
you get hit by a pitch and then you steal.
Second out this guy wearing position and you're waiting for
the next two betters just to.
Speaker 2: Hit it you watched a guy hit, Last, night yes. Blue, Player,
yeah kirk big. Fat guy you can't. Miss him no?
Speaker 3: Favorite player is?
Speaker 2: He is who's there Was? ANOTHER kirk i thought, YEARS
ago i knew there was a There Was, Kirby Pucket,
kirby puckett but there was a. Pass away yeah. HE
did i Don't.
Speaker 3: Remember Kirk jookie betts has been around for, A while
showani and.
Speaker 2: Is, AMAZING yes i mean that. Guy is he's in
the same.
Speaker 3: Sentence With babe ruth because the play he hits three
home runs in the game and, they go you know
the last guy, did that and the, guy's, like No It's.
Speaker 2: Babe ruth yeah. That's yeah, You know but to, say
that did you see in the sixth inning? Last, night
yep guy jumps on, the field runs With an. American,
FLAG no i.
Speaker 3: Knew somebody jumped on. THE field i don't know why
but what else was?
Speaker 2: He? Naked, no no just running With an, american flag is?
Speaker 3: Wearing pink he.
Speaker 2: Was, not unfortunately well you should have sent him. A
shut i didn't see who. It, was, yeah no, With
somebody and it just reminded ME like i am maybe
the only one that kind of loves when. That Happens
and i'll tell, you WHY because i go the balls to.
Do that, number one you know you're gonna get smeared across.
THE field, i mean you were eating some of that
fucking turf man, and there and you're going. To jail and,
you're right you're probably going. To jail and but do
you remember back in the day Morgana The, Kissing, bandit,
Yes Huge double, d's, huge huge and she would just
come running out and it almost became a bit for
baseball in a way like in.
Speaker 3: OTHER sports i think.
Speaker 2: It was did she, Do, basketball YEAH because i remember her.
RUNNING out i thought She Kissed. GEORGE brett i, don't
remember but she would run out of the field kiss
guys and it was like no one came and. Tackled
HER and i, always wondered how did. That begin that's
the Thing that i'm most. Curious about like this kid,
last night something he planned to do before you went to,
the game clearly because you brought, a, Flag right but
then how about the guy that? Runs naked there was
a guy that ran naked In the, bills, game right
and then you find out later they, got drunk and
one of his, BUDDIES goes i. Dare you That's all
and that's all it takes for. Some guys i'm, telling,
you like take me back thirty years, AND go i,
Dare YOU and i, Probably, WOULD oh i. Think so
at twenty four. YEARS old I think i.
Speaker 3: Would, have, yeah absolutely that's a track meets a half
an hour by then, you're, Like okay i'm ready.
Speaker 2: To go but then you and in, A way, i
go if you're really a fan of, one team if
you time, it right it may be the spark that gets,
your tea you KNOW what? I mean? Walking, AROUND yeah.
Speaker 3: I, thought well that might have thrown off.
Speaker 2: His back That's what i'm saying, is, rhyming, right sure
because you're in, a, zone right you got to get
in that zone.
Speaker 3: For that there's another guy in the seventies. EARLY eighties
i think that he poses a baseball players and he
got Into An All. Star game he had a uniform.
AND everything i don't know if he, got announced but
he got out there in the outfield and the other two, guys,
are hey you know what's? Going on i'm so and
SO and i don't know if there's a documentary, on
him but you can look.
Speaker 2: It, up wait the guy just he just walked out and,
just yeah he got. The uniform and where did you
get the? Uniform, from well he didn't buy. It online
he got IT From. Sivi star.
Speaker 3: But he would try to get on people's teams and
just sit in the dugout. With him and there's so much.
Going on, you know.
Speaker 2: You have you have a left. Handed pitcher you might
see him once. A. Year, Yeah sure oh that's. Fucking
fantastic tell me more. About this do you have to there?
Speaker 3: A documentary i don't know. About that i'd. Have to
i'll look it up at.
Speaker 2: The break that. Is fantastic what a, Ballsy thing what a. Ballsy,
Thing yes but see the problem is now you just
don't know, somebody's, Motives right and we're very heightened and
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five eight five. Dot com dougie is a very. Unique
individual He's had he was a STRIP club dj for
many many many even took that out To The west
coast in one of the biggest cities in, Our Country Los.
Angeles angles and you're also a, bartender, bartender yeah and
you're also an Uber driver, uber driver so you've had
kind of a front row seat.
Speaker 3: To, life yeah you KNOW what i mean a lot.
Speaker 2: Just in terms of people and humanity and all that kind.
Of stuff you've had a front row seat. To life and.
Speaker 3: And depending on, the bar you get. Different stories it's
Sure like i'm Working At forest hills Now on, friday
nights if you want to come, see me and it has,
great food but well dressed. Married couples, you know they're
coming out for their. Weekly Dinner but i've worked at
Bars On. Alexander street uh it was it's a. Daily
refresher now it used to Be The. Blue room, oh
yeah and that was that bar was we're going to
start here or we're going to. End here you see people,
come in, you know a couple, of beers a. Couple
shots then they're gonna make. The, circle yeah and then they,
come back and then they come back you have. A
stagger then we're playing darts two thirty in. The morning
nice for shots or clothing something.
Speaker 2: Like that shots, are, OKAY yeah i, could, see uh
BUT what i gotta think you have witnessed a lot
of you can't make this up moments. With people can
you think of one that they're like they just that
sticks out from any point where you're like you you
just you can't make. It, up look you wrote, a,
movie right you did a, whole script you produced. The
movie is there anything that, you, go shit this would
be great in. A story you Know what. I'm saying
i'd have to.
Speaker 3: Have, IT okay i don't want any dead.
Speaker 2: Air out i'll try to. DEAD air i be thinking. About, It, NO no.
I understand i Understand because i'm thinking. THE job i
think that most people would say, to you the job
that gave you the craziest stories is probably the STRIP.
Club dj but that may not necessarily be true BECAUSE
the i worked as a mason one some and one of. The.
Speaker 3: Guys uh the beginning, OF summer i, was told, you
know this is so, and so and he's having a
kid with. His girlfriend and by the end of the
summer she had told him that it's not. Your kid,
oh OH and I think i was so Eighteen, twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah how old was?
Speaker 3: This guy he was twenty five, Twenty, SEVEN okay i
was the youngest guy in.
Speaker 2: The crew it was just? How grunt how? Did? UH
how i don't even remember? You remember were? The?
Speaker 3: Owners uh like you just found out he's not the
father and he's still got. To, work yeah and then
sometimes you just, you, know okay what's. The matter you
know you're not acting, the same what's what's? Going on
you got to get it out? Of, him yeah because,
You're not you're you're sucking up.
Speaker 2: Your work, so, sure, yeah yeah so well our head can. Do.
THAT yeah i mean you probably even see that with yourself.
Their days, you know something's heavy on your mind and, you're,
yes absolutely and all of, a sudden, you go, fuck
it just fucked up, this drink, YOU know, i mean.
OR whatever, I mean i think that's a very human part.
Of stuff but, uh boy that's a fucking. Wild. One
yeah how do you come back? FROM that i. Don't,
Know well i'll tell. You what you saved a lot of,
Money pal yes you know it's not, your kid so,
that's fantastic, and uh, find somebody. You know loyalty is a, big,
Thing right loyalty is A Big thingk? What ELSE because,
I mean i don't know you there's got to also
be things where you've seen that restored your faith. IN
humanity i know you drive through some pretty dark i'll.
CALL them i don't want to say, that, Word UH
and i wasn't meaning it the way we, come OUT
but i don't know if it some dark, Story, neighborhoods
yeah that was. Exactly what it's. Dark Areas and, i'm,
like well people will take that the. Wrong way but
you go through some areas that most of us would stay,
away from.
Speaker 3: Well you think they're really. Really BAD and i, asked people,
you know how's this neighborhood and you know what's going on,
around here and some of the neighborhoods, they're, rebuilding uh
knocking down the old houses and building, apartment buildings which
is kind of nice to SEE and i have, seen
it and you feel good about the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Coming up and then.
Speaker 3: There WAS one i Think on Clinton or hudson and
it wasn't even a.
Speaker 2: Year old and dropped off a mother.
Speaker 3: AND daughter i remember, this DISTINCTLY and, i, go hey,
you know how did they the apartments? Come out are?
They beautiful and because we're looking, To move, i'm, like
what it's? Brand, new yeah but people on drugs they let.
Speaker 2: Them in they just sleep.
Speaker 3: Into hallway, i'm, like, what, oh yeah you call the
cops or, you know they they kick them out and
then they they kick them out and then they. Get
it they come back in to get warmer sell, their
drugs and, so like what the fuck is wrong?
Speaker 2: With people drugs are? SO bad, i mean it's it's,
sad REALLY because i, always SAY and i know that
it's kind of a hot point for, some people right
that it's an addiction is, A Disease and, i'll go
is it the disease or is there? Something? Else like
is it the medicine that's covering up some really painful
fucking shit that you can't? Live with and then it
gets so bad you.
Speaker 3: CAN'T stop i don't like disease because it's not like.
Speaker 2: CATCHING cold I would i, would say, definitely addiction, You know,
AND yeah, i, mean look it's, an ugly. Ugly thing.
Speaker 3: I've known if you don't know heroin and crack is
bad before you, start, it yeah, COME on, i Know but.
Speaker 2: I've never heard.
Speaker 3: Of this i'm gonna take a needle and put any
in my ARM and i.
Speaker 2: Feel great but if, you're sure why not if you're
in an altered state and then all of a sudden
you get that high from heroin and it is supposedly,
the greatest most. Euphoric thing and the problem is you're chasing.
That forever you're ever going to get your first, hit,
back right and and then. There'll stop you, get clean
and then you go back to the doses dose that
you were.
Speaker 3: Used to and that's why people.
Speaker 2: Oh d right and The other i've known people who.
Speaker 3: And now, i'm sorry they're coming out with a DRUG
and i don't know where they're producing, this drug but
uh that the nark can will.
Speaker 2: Not Work Oh, JESUS christ i didn't know that a
version of heroin or a version. Of, something, YEAH yeah
i don't know's it's sad because, look man It's we
we think it's, it's poor, you know down on your,
Luck people. It ain't it is all walks. Of life it's,
a billion it's all walks. Of life it's, you know
it's the LAWYER that, i mean it's, a lawyer it's.
A teacher, it's yeah that just went down a. Bare
right hopefully they're seeing it firsthand to go, fun this
but it's it's such an ugly thing and it does.
Grip you you've. SEEN people i.
Speaker 3: Just don't know where you're getting. The needles you're, sitting
there you're lighting a, your spoon, you know to mix.
IT up i mean at some point, you're like this.
Speaker 2: Isn't good it depends on how down the road, you.
ARE man i mean there WERE guys i had heard
of that. Never stopped they would do what's referred to.
As chipping there's Rumors That, keith richards. FOR example i
don't know that this is true, or not but would
chip because it would be just enough heroin to get
you back to write the ship and just keep. You
steady and it becomes like you're dependent, now right it's
more than an addiction you needed to live or, a
bump which.
Speaker 3: Is, cocaine YEAH and i think you have like a, a,
chapstick yeah a.
Speaker 2: Little grinder. Yeah yeah let me tell you something. Right
NOW but i, started cocaine no adderall. BUT now i
had been diagnosed in early two thousands as adult attention.
DEFICIT disorder I wish i found this. YEARS ago i
get so much done and so. Much accomplished i've done
more in the, last month and the amount Of work i'm,
just saying, Like, focus yeah it, focuses you it gives
it's it's, a. Stimulant RIGHT so i had to find,
my BALANCE and i had to, do THIS BUT I
i i, would say this is the closest thing to to.
Legal cocaine you're. Gonna, get, Yeah Really and i'm taking
a really. Low DOSE but i called. A friend i
reached out to. A friend i. WAS talking i was
talking to my lady friend and she had mentioned that
she got add her off, from Somebody and i'm getting
pictures of all the ship she did, that day like,
you know organizing sock drawers and just getting. Shit done and,
you know at, Five o'clock i'm. GETTING THAT i i
haven't put on a broad i haven't brushed, my Teeth
but i've done all. This Shit and, i'm like you,
know what what are you laughing?
Speaker 3: At nothing because you got you forget about the sock, Drawer, sometimes.
Speaker 2: Well she got, three kids and, you know she's got
three kids and twins and all. This stuff so, TO
me i, was like, you Know and i've been talking
to my sister who is a doctor and linguistic, and
stuff and it has said that she's got like her
entire family is on some kind of add medication because
it's been. That beneficial and these are high achievers to the,
This family so, you know dad's a high powered lawyer
and mom's a doctor, in linguistics and then the kids
are they're getting tutored in areas of weakness, for academics
weakness may be in eighty five and. Taking, IT well
i don't know what they what. They're on there's, different.
Things RIGHT so i write a friend, and, go, hey
MAN can i get do you KNOW anybody i can get?
Adderall from and he, Writes, better no doesn't Do. Aderall
china i'm. Not sure did you see that.
Speaker 3: Parade of nuclear weapons and everything with a?
Speaker 2: Billion people i'm. Not sure Like, MISTER trump i am.
Not sure, you, Know focus i'm gonna get. FOCUSED real. I,
don't well, that's TRUE but. I don't, I don't i.
Don't know i'm. Not sure, so this uh my buddy
goes be an adult and. TO cocaine i can get.
That easier told it. To you it's, a joke BUT so.
I did i went to my doctor THEN and i
got myself. Balanced Out and i'm, telling, you man you
know to ME it's I wish i was On the
i'm almost mad in a WAY because, I, go god
WHAT could i? Have? Done no? SNORT it i actually
take very little into it once and. Yeah crag so
she had, old echo you're.
Speaker 3: Doing Coca no I'm doing, i'm like that's for a, Fourth,
grader like what?
Speaker 2: The right but it. Is great we went to.
Speaker 3: The concert she she after we went back to the
limo was the only limo with.
Speaker 2: NO lightside i think she was blowing the driver in.
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All right dougie tell me about THIS because i didn't
realize you, worked pools you. Did masonry then we know
all the other stuff. You did you were, A wrestler
i think on a scholarship was a. Small scholarship well that's,
pretty impressive. Thank you that's not an easy thing. To
get but you've had a pretty non traditional path. In,
life yeah but you hear? YOU here i, am, yes,
yes yes, not married not, retired, RIGHT yeah i mean,
no kids not in, one career but making it, all work.
Speaker 3: Making it, all work doing something with. MY life i
like knowing that.
Speaker 2: What's important it's a. Satisfaction thing you have, a, purpose.
Speaker 3: Yes, just yes, a purpose, a GOAL something i want.
Speaker 2: To achieve.
Speaker 3: And like over the years of the breast, cancer fundraising
how far is this going? TO go i guess a
few YEARS ago i started thinking about, TWENTY years, i think.
Speaker 2: And then you're going to. Be, done yeah twenty years.
Is good how come you never went in and tried
to look at was there a job at the Breast
cancer coalition that you could?
Speaker 3: HAVE done I think i like the freedom of making
the time to DO what.
Speaker 2: I Want and i'll tell, you THIS you've i don't
know that you've ever really had a boss in, a sense,
you do but. You're bartending that's. Really, you well my
boss has spoke to me a, few, times okay but
but probably to like point out errors or how we.
Do things but you learn along. The way, LIKE you
i think you could run your own place if you
have to be married.
Speaker 3: To it, You do i've thought. About, it yeah but at,
MY age i mean you really you really have to
be there twenty four to seven at. A bar you
have to, have trust, trusting employees and you have to
do everything from cook to write the checks to clean.
Speaker 1: The.
Speaker 3: Toilet, Yeah absolutely and if, you don't those are the
bars that don't.
Speaker 2: Make it or what is the like think about your, Own,
life like what's something you think you have pulled off
or could pull off in your fifties that you couldn't
necessarily do in your twenties? Or thirties is there anything
like like? Wisdom? COMES well I think i can make
another MOVIE if.
Speaker 3: I Wanted, h, Yeah yeah i'm Thinking of i'm thinking
of having another showing a night Of, The, cat yeah
running it running out Of The eastman? House again is
that what?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 3: Did yeah for MY premiere i think it was five.
Hundred dollars everybody got.
Speaker 2: Dressed up it was.
Speaker 3: Really cool years later and having a little more clout
and having my name out there in. The, public yeah
with THE things, i do could get people there and
maybe donate some of it to the, cell tickets to
donate some of, the coalition or keep. It, myself yes.
Speaker 2: Keeping yourself that. Sounds terrible you do enough that you
gotta do something. For you whatever you, Would decide i'm
sure it would be the right answer. To that but
that's a. Great idea that's a. GREAT idea, I mean i.
Speaker 3: Think about, the Comedy but i'm not going to Move
To New york city and try to hit all the
clubs and find a job there and go.
Speaker 2: Every NIGHT and.
Speaker 3: I guess, I could BUT now i have, a house
so to pay for? An apartment apartments, Are.
Speaker 2: Ridiculous No In New. York city can't imagine a kid
rents a room for like twelve, hundred, dollars right rent just, a,
room right, shared, kitchen. Share. Bathroom, yeah yeah my buddy.
Was looking and that's Not. In manhattan That's In, staten, Island,
right YES where i went, To, school YES With. Weg,
college yeah.
Speaker 3: My buddy was looking at three hundred square, foot apartment
or maybe it was a condo four hundred and twenty
five thousand dollars three hundred. Square feet it's like this.
Speaker 2: And next door, crazy, money RIGHT but i couldn't. Believe
it the other thing is if you hold on, to
it who knows what you could sell. It for if
you're putting four hundred and twenty.
Speaker 3: Five houses he said it had like seven layers of pain.
On it you have to redo it. All, yourself yeah,
he's like. Fuck this so he's trying to get a
work schedule a couple of days there, a week, you
know flying in Out of rochester for work and trying
to make. IT work i don't think he's found any.
Place yet so what you Need Is, DOUGIE fresh i
go BUY an rv for eighty, five thousand drop you off.
Of work i'll drive around to get it in, a
day go park.
Speaker 2: This somewhere. Problem solved what did? He says.
Speaker 3: It's an. Interesting thought that that's.
Speaker 2: A great interesting that's a really interesting THOUGHT.
Speaker 3: Because i can go park it anyway and just wait.
For you you can't park.
Speaker 2: Anywhere In New york city without it being.
Speaker 3: A nightmare fifty two hundred dollars. A, day yeah but,
long run it's still cheaper than running.
Speaker 2: An, Apartment, right yeah but traffic.
Speaker 3: IS horrid i haven't been there and RIGHT before covid was? It,
fourteen no nine YEARS of. Covid, SEVENTEEN yeah i took
the train, down There Saw Billy Joel Manson's.
Speaker 2: Square, garden yeah but you haven't been Down To new york. Since.
THEN yeah I think i'm Going. Over, Thanksgiving anything i'm
gonna do. The, parade, yeah yeah that's.
Speaker 3: A nightmare hopefully it's, Good, WEATHER yeah i.
Speaker 2: Think so and yeah it'll.
Speaker 3: Be, easy yeah because they bust.
Speaker 2: You, in yeah they. Got, stuff yeah they.
Speaker 3: Get stuff they'll make.
Speaker 2: IT work i. Get uh if you could, go back
doug go back in time to twenty five Year Old,
douggie fresh twenty twenty five Year old douggie.
Speaker 3: Just, twenty five or anytime five twenty five.
Speaker 2: Twenty five Year Old. Dougie fresh what was twenty five
Year Old dugi fresh for?
Speaker 3: TWENTY five I think i was working downtown at, a
COMPANY and i was working in the mailroom for a friend.
Speaker 2: Of mine would you warn him or hype?
Speaker 3: Him up warn him or hype him up your.
Speaker 2: Twenty five year, old self would you warm him or hype?
Him Up because i'm THINKING if i could, GO back
i would hype up by twenty five year. OLD self
i would. Go away you're gonna have, unbelievable opportunities, stay
focused stay open, to THEM and i.
Speaker 3: Would say get out of get out of this job
and whatever. It takes probably dj construction by a house
so fifty that the house is.
Speaker 2: Paid, off yeah Moved. To, california earlier Moved.
Speaker 3: To, california ye take a chance, in life even if
you got to run up all your credit cards, and
everything go.
Speaker 2: Do, it yeah you, KNOW what, i think that's actually
not a. Bad idea you don't want to you'd like
to not run up the credit cards if. You could
but but but but the, point being you had a
dream and you're taking. A.
Speaker 3: Chance, earlier, yes, yes absolute.
Speaker 2: LIKE like i will never regret wanting to be on
the radio and having the long RADIO thing i had
that led, to this that has led it's because of
the Podcast that i'm back. In school that was a,
day decision a one day decision with the GUY who
i met through more through the podcasts that have become
friendly with that runs the program, that, goes hey we
had somebody back out and they can't and we can rush.
Your interviews we can get you with people. This weekend
and that. Was it so you're gonna get? Your doctorate? No? Masters,
masters yeah so will you be a psychiatrist or you?
To people just listen and you. Can diagnose you can't.
Write scripts NOW if i go on, FROM there i.
Don't know now what do you put on? Your flyer
the entertainment? Purpose only i'm not, a, doctor sure just
somebody to. Listen, to no you just put it out
there's your counselor licensed mental. Health, counselor, Okay yeah and
so that way you could get hired at schools to
be a. School counselor or.
Speaker 3: People just want to call you an hour today and
set your price and and the ware. You Go, mister
phelps come. On down would you mind laying face down on?
Speaker 2: The couch oh. Yeah sure now this would be more
of a, Person. Centered doug this would be more if
we sit and, we talk we're face to face and
we just kind of let you of your info on what. You,
think no you, Just, listen YEAH well i can. DO
that i would just TRY to i do. DO that i, would,
UBER yes i would just try to help you find your.
Way out, talk last, listen more, talk last. Listen more
you do all. That stuff the one on the right.
Speaker 3: Is awesome there, you go look, at that there. YOU
go i think that jagis from nineteen, seventy six but
vintage like. Her banger of.
Speaker 2: Course you OF course. I would of course you would.
Speaker 3: Take her to the drive and see closed for.
Speaker 2: The winner, so stupid. So stupid that was an. Old
jacket she does not throw. ANYTHING out i didn't see.
THE jacket i didn't. SEE it i saw the woman
with the, colorful HAIR and I thought i, recognized her
so THAT'S why. I WAVED but. I didn't i didn't see. The, jacket,
OKAY oh i missed. The Jacket now. I'm disappointed. Auburn
orange it was such a well what they could? Have done?
Burnt orange it maybe like an. Old jacket could be
some family members that there's a. Tailor down this is
the only one. Tailor. Cleaners ah let me ask you.
About that do you feel like you? Reinvented YOURSELF because
i know that a lot, of TIMES and i, don't
know maybe you have or your HAVING but i am
seeing sort of a SHIFT and i think something that
wasn't around when we were growing up. As much people
working just continue work right forever. And ever and like
my parents were teachers and they retired after so. Many
years friends of mine who went, Into, education uh we'll
talk about they're going to be retired in. LIKE a
i have two friends that graduated high school with. Eighty
eight they both retired. Last, year, yeah yeah. Yeah YEAH
and i will.
Speaker 3: Never retire i'll never be able.
Speaker 2: TO retire I don't i don't want. To Retire do
i'd have to.
Speaker 3: DO something i kind of kind of the, You know
i'll wait for. WHAT happens a friend of mine told me,
years ago if you, make it you gotta go make.
Speaker 2: It, happen yeah go make. It, happen man you. GOT
it i love. The idea what would be the? Think
about like you got the, Children's book maybe you make
a movie based on the. Children's, BOOK no i have
two other Movies that i've. Already, Written yeah i'm. The
booty call you when you, get man did we? Into
that did? We did we got? It in it, Feels good.
Speaker 3: It, Feels, Great buddy thank you so much for him
good to be ball aderall your.
Speaker 2: NEW sponsor i shouldn't probably talk about it as MUCH
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