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your support. Senate Bill five sixteen, filed in the US
or sorry in the North Carolina Senate, a bill entitled
an Act to define various terms in the General Statutes
of North Carolina and to enact the Women's Safety and
Protection Act. And so it lays out definitions of male
and female, and then it also says that the bathrooms
and sleeping quarters and changing rooms, locker rooms and such
will be reserved for you know, women only based on
the definitions of a woman. That basically, like ninety percent
of the people know what that is, what a woman is,
but they some a larger portion may be afraid to
say what the woman is, but they do know what
the definition is, Okay, So it's basically a rehash albeit
a bit curtailed of the original house build too, and
that fight that we had in North Carolina before anybody
else was really discussing this issue, which was basically forced
upon the state because of the actions of the Charlotte
City Council and the former mayor Jennifer Roberts, who promised
to enact the bathroom access to all people right all
the transgender access bill at the local level, and then
was going to find businesses if they didn't comply in
all of this other stuff. And we had this really
bizarre exchange with the then city Attorney, Bob Hageman, who said, well, yes,
it'd be against the law, but we just won't enforce it.
It's like, that's not how you do laws. You don't
write laws and then say, but we're not going to
enforce it on the business. No, because at some point
somebody does come along and wants to enforce that law.
So House Bill Too erupts. I went over all of
that in the last hour, partially repealed by Governor Cooper
after he used it to win his governor's race. And
now we've got Senate Bill five sixteen that is coming
back to this issue. So let me get Christine On
who called during the last segment, but we did not
have time to speak with her. Christine, Welcome to the show.
Thanks for holding on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Sure, Thanks, Pete. I just wanted to let Mike and
your listeners know that this does happen. And my daughter,
and this happened back in twenty nineteen, was attending a
charter school here in Monroe, and she had a and
I'm not forgive me if I get the terminology and correct,
but I think it was a trans girl. So it
was a biological boy that came into the locker room
during their swim fight out. She was going to be
on the swim team and this student who was new
to the school was a boy, and when he first
came to the school that year, he was a boy.
After fall break, he started dressing as a girl, and
the school was taking care of it because there was
another student going the opposite way. And the way the
school was taking care of it was saying, okay, you too,
will use the teacher's individual bathroom at the school. They
were taking care of it. However, the school doesn't have
a pool, so they were used in the local the
aquatic center, and so This was off a school campus,
and this boy decided he was going to try out
for the swim team. Went When he came, my daughter
told me about it. I was like, okay, let's see
if he's gonna wear swim trunks or a swim suit. Right,
And so he came and he tried out in a
swim trunk. He had changed in the boys locker room.
But after the practice, after he changed, he walked into
the female locker room. My daughter was in a towel
changing had, thank goodness, had a towel wrapped around her.
But he came in. Of course, all the girls scream
because now there's this boy in the locker room. They
know him as a boy, and they screamed, and he's
like he he says, what, I'm just like you.
Speaker 1: No, right, he's not great, no, no.
Speaker 2: So I notified the swim team coach and the only
thing I said to her was I know you will
take care of this, because I didn't know her. And
she did and say fitness. The boy was a terrible
swimmer and did not make the team, so you know
he was doing it simply to instigate and to see
what he could get away with going into that locker ring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a surprise, right, that's not a surprise.
This is why, and this is why when I call
her Mike before the news there at the end of
the last hour, I said, you're opening up spaces for
bad actors and they don't necessarily have to go and
assault a woman, but they are behaving as a bad actor,
and that then is victimizing them in that locker room
and that and so we should we should be trying
to protect those women in those vulnerable positions and places.
It's exactly Yeah, I'm sorry your daughter had to go
through that, but I do appreciate you sharing the story
with us.
Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely, all right, Christy.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, I appreciate it. Let's jump over and
talk with Nancy. Hello, Nancy, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Hi.
Speaker 4: Hello, Hi Pete Hello, Yes, hello Hi. I was at
La Fitness and this was before the COVID and I
have I'm a sort of senior. Anyway, they had, uh
it was Memorial Day and so they didn't have hardly
any staff. Anyway, I was working out and in the
pool and a large man, uh wanted to borrow my
starpoam weight. I know he was in man because he
was adjusting his penis. And anyway, after I got out
of the pool, I went into the women's shower area
and LA fitness and he came in the women's shower.
I called the police later. I have flung problems. I
have lung damage and I couldn't scream if I wanted to.
And anyway, the police later told me there was nothing
they could do. They said if he didn't put his
hands on me, he didn't hurt me. He scared the
heck out of me. I'm not even five feet tall anymore.
I lost two inches. Women do that anyway. He he
terrified me. I was afraid to get out of the shower.
I was digging through my bag to see what I
had to hurt somebody with. You know, I don't think
trial sized bottles of shampoo would do any good.
Speaker 1: No. Here, yeah, I'll give you a piece of a tip,
a piece of advice. The ear is the most easily
detachable part of the body. Well, you grab that ear
and you just pull it until it comes off.
Speaker 4: Honey, who was very tall too, But anyway, it just
was terrifying. I appreciate the tip, but I stopped going there.
They won't as far as I know, I don't know
that they let that that go on much more. But
I called La Fitness. I tried to get their corporate
and to let them know, but they said that there's
nothing they can do about it because of the law.
I'm like, you know, you should want to protect.
Speaker 1: Women, right, but if the state, if the if the
if the state, the authority of the government will not yeah,
if they won't recognize what a woman is and they
have no quote definition of that, then they Yeah, then
that's the position they got put in. Nancy. I appreciate
the call. I'm sorry you had to go through that. Yeah,
I mean, it's awful. And again, and so when Mike says, oh,
maybe I'm just not hearing about it, that's correct, Mike,
You're just not hearing about it. Amelia, Welcome to the show. Hey, Amelia, Hi, Hey.
Speaker 3: I would just like to say, in the case of
you know, young boys and girls, they're barely pevescent. For
some reason, it is such a big deal that boys
and girls mix in bathrooms, but not a big deal
at all that girls see other girls in locker rooms.
I think that the schools make it a big deal.
Speaker 1: And it isn't you think the schools make it. How
do the schools make it a big deal?
Speaker 3: I think separating boys and girls in lockers rooms in
the first place is not a good idea. You're implicating
that it's totally fine for other women or other girls, really,
because these kids are what twelve trying out for the
middical school swimming team and then and telling them that
they can't be around boys, and that just creates a
stigma that, you know, their other the sex of the
other bodies matters for some reason? It does it matter?
Speaker 1: Why does the opposite sex matter? Have you met? Have
you met a twelve year old boy?
Speaker 3: I have?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What do you think? What do you think they
What do you think they do around naked twelve year
old girls?
Speaker 3: Nothing? That nothing twelve year old girls don't do.
Speaker 1: So we should encourage So we should encourage that kind
of behavior.
Speaker 3: No, we should encourage acceptance of bodies as normal.
Speaker 1: Who's well then, so, so you then do not believe
then in the uh, transgender surgeries? I guess I should
we ban.
Speaker 3: I'm not speaking to that.
Speaker 1: No, but you did you just did? You said there's
nothing wrong with the bodies, So I'm assuming then you
would be opposed to the transgender surgeries.
Speaker 3: You don't get upset that, like, girl dogs and boy
dogs are together. Do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't get upset that girl and that male and
female dogs are together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't see they're also naked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're also naked.
Speaker 3: They're naked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh. Well unless, like I guess, they
have a collar or sometimes their owners put like the
silly little sweater on them, which is weird. They should
really put pants on them if they're going to pick
a garment.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, yeah, because they're the same dogs in right,
Dogs and people are the same.
Speaker 3: Why do we see ourselves, our physical bodies as such
an important thing?
Speaker 1: They are? Okay, well, because we see the society sees
them like that, because they are.
Speaker 3: To some people, to most people. This huge issue about
a bathroom bill, if all the bathrooms were all gender
to begin with.
Speaker 1: Oh, I disagree, because we actually we've seen this play out.
And that's what the two stories from these ladies just outlined,
was that when you open up the spaces, because like,
why do you segregate you? Well, no, hang on, Amelia
Why do you segregate the the changing rooms, locker room showers, bathrooms?
Why do you segregate based on sex? You do that.
You do that because you try to protect women from
men who take advantage of that access to those spaces.
That's the point and how.
Speaker 3: And in the first instance, was the man, the boy
in high school or middle school or whatever, taking advantage
of the space other than.
Speaker 1: To use it to change He wasn't. Actually he changed
in a different room, and then he came in afterwards
while the girls were changing. So you realize there are fetishes.
Do you know that people have fetishes?
Speaker 3: You know that, I'm aware.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so do you know that there are fetishes
related to this kind of behavior.
Speaker 3: I think it's called voyeurism.
Speaker 1: Now, that's one of them. That's one of them. There
are several different kinds of like wearing the clothing and
pretending to be the thing, and so there are different
fetishes surrounding this issue. And so when somebody comes in
and starts like aggling your naked body for their own
sexual gratification, do you think that that's appropriate.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's what was happening.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't matter, that doesn't matter. I'm asking because
that's the scenario that you are allowing to occur by
opening the spaces up to everybody as you outline. So
if I had that fetish, I would be able.
Speaker 3: To come in and just augle you my naked body.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 3: I don't care if anyone sees my naked body?
Speaker 1: Do you do you respect that? Some people do?
Speaker 3: I think that the House bill will make it so
that people care less about such things and that such
conflicts won't actually happen by normalizing being around someone of
the other gender.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, I will leave it here because I'm way
late for my traffic break A million. I appreciate your call,
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social engineering that you're describing is precisely the intent of
the left. You are correct on that they are trying
to change the entire society. The problem is that the
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Welcome to the program. Hello, Robert, I have about a
minute minu and a half.
Speaker 5: Hey, yeah, yeah, yes, this is Robert Brown. I I
remember when I when Pat McCorry got voted out during
the time that that all this come down about the bathrooms.
And anyway, my my niece had a volleyball tournament. They're
a convention center, and and we went and it was
pretty packed, and and I told my wife said, only
you know, SHO find the bathroom.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I was looking and looking and looking and looking at
and I just kept seeing this same bathroom, you know where.
So I went in there and then it was like
men and women in there, and I, you know, it
was just something I just couldn't believe. I was like,
I can't believe this is really happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's the way it went for a long time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, shared that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Robert. Yeah, this was the case for
a while. I don't know what it's if it still is,
but I remember right after they did the HB two fight,
and everybody's like all of our bathrooms are unisex now
and share the bathrooms. Everybody, free love. And then the
DNC came to town, remember that, and they uh and
or no they had or was it was it here?
No it didn't. They didn't come here wherever it was
because this would have been like twenty sixteen or twenty eighteen,
I forget which year it was, and they did or
twenty twenty, and then they had they had female and
male bathrooms. Remember that. Yeah, so it's absurd, it's absurd,
but yeah, they and I still see signs around in
their bathrooms saying, look, if you're a private business, you
go ahead and do whatever you want. You do what
you want. But there was a purpose for the segregation
of restroom facilities for women. It was to protect them.
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get to some of the messages emails to Pete at
thepetecleanershow dot com. Regarding caller Mike, he was at the
end of the last hour and then the last caller
that we had their Amelia prompting some responses, just a
few responses. I do not know if there was any
I do not know if there was any intoxicants involved
in any of the calls. I just want to say
that I have no evidence of that, but people are asking.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: Ron says, for years, conservative politicians played by the marquis
of Queensberry rules while Libs were playing by prison rules.
Libs were kicking our tails. Trump came along and is
willing to fight the Libs on their own terms. As
you've said repeatedly, that's how we got Trump time to
embrace the Obama approach. We won. We're in charge now,
so just shut up because we don't care what you think.
That's from Ron, now. I mean, the problem with that
is that sometimes like that you get blowback, just like
we saw with Obama. Right, people don't appreciate that, and
you will end up losing as Obama lost all of
those legislature races all across the country, right, all of
the states flipped and all of that. So there is backlash.
There is a downside to governing like that or ruling
like that. Joseph says, It's funny how all the Democrat
callers you get never really call in to yell you
when you talk about the trans stuff. They only ever
call in about Trump. Yeah, that's interesting observation. Alan says,
I would hate to have Mike as my lawyer under
any circumstances. How many Seth says, how many times does
it take for a woman to be violated in a
woman's only area for enforcement to take place? Yeah, which
is again, that's the argument for the protection of the
safe spaces is so you don't have women victimized by
the bad actors who get access to the safe space
because we're all too polite. Oh no, I don't want
to offend anybody. Joseph says. I wonder how Mike, being
a traditional race based left, a leftist kami, how he
really feels in his heart of hearts about having to
align himself with the trans insanity. I'm sure when it
seemed like a good play for numbers, he could deal
with it. But now that the issue has become an
eighty twenty or worse loser for Democrats if they're ever
going to cut their losses and dump the nut job
gender bender Bolsheviks. Tim says, with the logic that Mike uses,
I wish I knew his whole name so I can
avoid accidentally hiring him in the future. That's getting a
couple of those types of messages. Now Amelia's call, this
is from Dennis. It is frightening to me that your
call that your caller Amelia is an adult scary. Well,
to be fair, I don't know if she is. I
don't know how old she was. And Tony wants to
know where was this kind of girl when I was
a teenager. That's yeah, But notice like she wants. This
is what her comment there at the end indicated was
that you know, she doesn't care if men are looking
at her, although I'm sure if maybe some guy came
up and asked her out or made her feel uncomfortable
in the workplace, like I'm thinking class action lawsuit all
over the place there. But she wants her standard applied
to everybody. This is what I mean about competing interests,
competing rights, and you can't have it. This is what
the society is telling people like Amelia. We know what
you want, and we're saying no. We're saying no. This
is a very bright line. The answer is no. And
the sooner you accept that, then the better off I
think the society will be and you will be. But
the answer to your demand that society change and start
putting twelve year old boys and girls into showers together
in order to, you know, make everybody feel comfortable, which
I don't think that's actually going to have that kind
of an impact. You can read about it all this,
uh all this Huxley has written about it, and uh yeah,
so like the society is telling you, no, that's it,
just accept it. Richard's says, it's real simple. It only
takes one girl, one woman to feel uneasy about a
boy or a man being in their safe space. Why
only women have to endure this issue. As a high
school dude, I would spend all my time in the
girl's locker room according to statistics. Larry says, it sounds
like Amelia is a college educated white female. That's actually
probably exactly true. Ellen says, Wow, what a caller. She
is completely wrong. A young girl under the age of
eighteen should never have to deal with a young man
or a boy in the bathroom or locker room. They
are not adults, they are just developing. That woman is
nuts and completely wrong. As an adult, if she wants
to show her naked body off, go for it, honey,
But a minor should not be subjected to that but see,
she's going to make you not feel uncomfortable about your
own body, unless, of course, you want to chop off
various parts of it. Obviously. Gosh, I understand white people
are freaking out. Chris says, from the sound of it,
I assume Mike and Amelia are related. I don't. I
don't know if I don't know if they are. This
is bob. He says. Last caller should walk into either
the Hornets or the Panthers locker room. If that didn't
do it, she should strip among the team. She would
get a new perspective on clothing or a lack thereof. Yeah,
I don't, I don't know. Stan says during COVID, I
went into a public building in South Carolina. One of
the restrooms said women, and the other door said all others.
I asked somebody there about it, and they couldn't tell
me who all the others were. Yeah, And it is
one of the things that I didn't even get to
with Mike in the first hour when he called about
an hour ago, what's a woman.
Speaker 3: See?
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things in this bill, Senate
Bill five sixteen. Now, I think this is one of
the problems that Democrats are going to have. And if
I'm the North Carolina lawmakers in the debate on this,
if I'm the Republicans doing the debate on this, that's
what I would ask them to define, because it's a
very simple question that exposes the level of dumb assery
at play in this bill. Not only does it talk
about the bathrooms and stuff, but it also talks about
and domestic violence shelters for example, which I'm assuming I
guess Amelia is fine with that too, right, women who
are fleeing domestic violence and they end up in a
shelter for victims. I'm guessing she's okay with allowing men
to parade around the women's showers. You know, these are
victims that now you're going to be flashing like we
have these rules, these these laws, like you're not allowed
to like walk up to people and expose yourself.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: The reasons why these laws exist, and this is what
I went over this a couple of days ago. The
the defining dev and C down and defining dev and
C up. And so you take what is sort of
the the standard moraise, the norms of a society, and
you you problematize things that are generally accepted in the society,
and you start saying these are bad things now, like
sex segregated locker rooms, and you start saying, oh, that's
that's wrong, you're a bigot and all this. And so
you're you're you're making quote unquote normal behavior and thoughts
and standards, you're making them abnormal. That's what Charles Krautheimer
called defining deviancy up while on the other side, you're
allowing and permitting more and more things that were deviant
to now be accepted. You're forcing those things into the
culture too, and it is all in service to a
degradation of the society. That's what's going on. But this
law defines a boy a human male who is a
minor father, a parent who is of the male sex.
Female an individual who has had, will have, or would
have but for a developmental or genetic anomaly, or historical accident.
The reproductive system that at some point produces, transports, and
utilizes eggs for fertilization. Gender the psychological, behavioral, social, and
cultural aspects of being male or female. Girl. A human
female who is a minor male. An individual who has had,
will have, or would have but for a developmental or
genetic anomaly or historical accident, the reproductive system that at
some point produces, transports, and utilizes sperm for fertilization. It
defines man, defines biological sex or sex, defines mother, and
defines woman, which, in case our friends on the left
don't know a human female that has reached the age
of majority or a minor who has been emancipated. Just
in case you were unclear about what a woman is,
there's your definition, and now, thanks to the Left, we
actually have to spell it out for you. All right,
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at Pete Calender, I have received a message from Trent.
It's a Pete tweet who says, the ideology that was
just being hashed out with caller Amelia there about half
hour ago is the reason we are seeing the rise
of only fans and the fall of traditional marriage. Some
things are seen as sacred. I eat sex and what
goes along with it, and when we do away with it,
there's no reason to care anymore. Yeah, the whole act
has been deepened, right, and when you when a society
no longer values this thing, then you can't obviously expect
And this is one of the things, by the way,
that you see in impoverished countries, war torn countries where
there is no rule of law meant to protect these
privacy rights. Right, and these are rights and trined in
our founding documents, the right to privacy, and there is
an effort to blow that up. Now. They can find
the right to abortion inside the right to privacy, but
they can't find the right to a private changing room
when you're hitting naked. That can't. I can't figure that
one out for the life of me. That's not privacy
at all. No, the Founders meant the right to abortion. See,
we can read between the lines there and that's where
that lives. But the right to not have some guy
with a fetish oggling you while you change in the
in the showers. But that's you know, that's not what
the founders had in mind at all. A couple more
messages on the Twitter. Let's see, this is from former
poll dancer. I'm glad to see you got your life
on track. But to call her Mike, if it only
applies to a tiny percentage of events, then why does
he oppose it? By the way, this is and I
didn't even raise this point with him because of the
time constraints I was dealing with. But one of the
you know, the the old blueprints that we talk about
with the left is you know, first the argument is
that it's not happening, right, and then the argument because
after then you show examples of it happening. Then the
argument moves to okay, fine, it's happening, but it's not
a lot. It's the same thing we saw with like
voter ID vote fraud stories. And whenever we have these
types of arguments, the first step is to deny it exists.
Then the second step is to say, okay, well, actually,
a lot of times they don't even say okay, fine,
it exists. They just move to the next one. It's
not even a lot. And then when you could show
them multiple examples, then it shifts to you know, okay,
find it happens a lot, but not enough for whatever reason.
And then finally when you show that no, this does
have a big impact on this race or a big
impact to you know, for this victim or whatever, then
it goes to the fine, it's happening. But here's why
it's good that it is happening. Because there isn't a
principle at play here except power. That's it. That's the
only thing that's going on, and the the left has
bought into this, this idea because their base is animated
by the issue. Right, the Democrat Party's base is animated
by this issue. And the vast majority of Americans and
the vast majority of the world, the global population on
the entire planet, understands men and women different for many reasons,
not saying one's better or worse, They're just different. And
the Left is taking this very very minority view and
they're trying to force it upon the entire society. And
this is the society saying no, we disagree anyway. So
Mike first started off trying to make the argument that
it's only a tiny percentage. But if that's the case,
this is a good question. Then why oppose it, especially
when about three quarters of Americans are supportive of protections
for women. Is it so that the left can expand
and broaden the issue a piece at a time. I
think that's the most likely explanation. Yes, that is right.
It is the destabilization of the society. It's knocking out
pillars upon which the Western civilization is built. That's what
Marxism is about. That's why the left does these things.
This is remember The issue is never the issue. The
issue is always the revolution. This isn't about bathrooms, It's
about power. This is from tim Oteo. It's choosing imaginary
rights for an imaginary gender over the innate rights of
real women. Andy says I should ask callers if they've
actually read the bill. Please, Andy, come now, you know
the answer to that question. It's always gonna be no.
Kelly says that caller Amelia sounds like she regularly watches
the view, Wake and Bate Man. Anyway, what is and then, uh,
what is the quote Pete about? It takes a lot
of education to be so dumb. Yeah, I have to admit,
at first I thought that Amelia's call might be a
bit a skit, a put on or something. But as
I proceeded through the call, it became obvious that no, no,
that she's actually advocating for this wacky opinion. But that's
what we do here. All right. That'll do it for
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