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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong

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with Molly Hemingway, Editor and You Hit The Federalist and

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David Harsani, Senior writer at the Washington Examiner. Just as

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a reminder, if you like to email the show, please

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do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. Oh boy, Molly,

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did we get a lot of emails this week on

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our tattoo discussion. I think it was split fifty to

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fifty pro con randomly placing ink under your skin across

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your body. But some of them were quite interesting. I

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thought some of them were thoughtful.

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Speaker 2: I liked the lady who started getting tattooed. Remember yet

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last week I said, if you get tattoos, to start

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getting them when you're fifty or something like that, and

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she said that that's how she'd done it, that she

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didn't start getting them until her sixties or something. I

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liked that. She was pretty funny, even as she was

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funnyizing us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, funny and making a big mistake, but funny.

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Speaker 2: My favorite thing is when people I know right in

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just as listeners, and we have a listener who's in Ireland,

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who's my husband's awesome cousin, Becky Becky Hemingway, and she's

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a very talented singer, and she and her husband live

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over there, and she just wrote in to say, you know,

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she remembered reading Mark's article against tattoos, and that she

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would not be sending us any hate mail, but that

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she and her that her husband wanted to get a

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tattoo in the nineties, and she suggested to him that

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he that his two lifelong commitments at that point were

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Jesus and her, and that having a tattoo brought into

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that category just felt like a downgrade. And it just

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made me laugh.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, we had initially gotten on the subject of tattoos

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because we were discussing Graham Plantner in his candidacy in

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Maine for the Senate seat. He has an SS tattoo,

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or one that closely resembles an SS tattoo. And you see,

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you can make a really big mistake in your life

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when you get a tattoo. We made a lot of

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mistakes in our twenties and inking your body forever as

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a problem. I mean, nowadays you can removed tattoos, though

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I think from what I've heard it's quite quite the

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arduous process to do.

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Speaker 2: My favorite thing about that tattoo guy in Maine, the

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Nazi tattoo guy is that he's cause playing as a

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as one of the boys, as an oyster man from Maine.

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And it turned out that he went to Hotchkiss, which

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is a seventy thousand dollars a year prep school. His

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grandfather is a very famous architect who worked with Aerosarinin,

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who's one of my favorite architects of the Saint Louis

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arch the Dulles Airport and Concordia Theological Seminary, Fort Wayne,

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among many other things. And he's really not one of

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the guys. I mean, he did go serve in the Marines,

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which is better than a lot of people in his class,

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you know, but.

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Speaker 1: This other yeah, I mean, I don't know why people

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are embarrassed of their class. I mean we're individuals and

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whatever he did. He did join the Marines, and that's

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admirable and all of that.

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Speaker 2: But oh, I was joking about it and people were like,

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what about your orange god Donald Trump? He also went

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to prep school and an Ivy League school. I was like, yes,

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And his issue is he might overinflate his level of

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being a billionaire, not underinflated you know he doesn't pretend

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to be a garbage man. Well, actually he did in

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this election.

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Speaker 1: Funnily enough, he've worked at McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But the whole reason it works to have him

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at McDonald's is because he's literally Donald Trump, whose name

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is on a bunch of buildings and as a billionaire.

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Speaker 1: People yelled when I say this, but I would only

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vote for someone who's more successful than me. They need

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to make more money than me, they have to be

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more accomplished than me. I'm not going to vote for

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someone who's blow me in those things, because I would

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never vote for myself. I don't think that I'd be

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prepared for that kind of responsibility. Why would I give

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it to someone who's a failure.

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Speaker 2: I would vote for you, David, you would not, thank kidding.

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I think I've actually written you in before. I live

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in a place where there are no options. Everyone just

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runs on a post. So I'll vote in the Democrat primary,

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try to have like the least bad option. I always lose,

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Like I could be picking the most like just the

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most moderate person and they lose to the Communists of

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my town. But then when it comes to election day,

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I do vote, and I write in people. I know.

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Speaker 1: One time, years ago before probably before Trump or maybe

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when it first he first started, I wrote a happy

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Warrior column from the National Review, and I mentioned to

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you as a potential presidential candidate in it. So it's

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it's in there somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't like as a joke.

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Speaker 1: It was like, well everything everything I wrote in that.

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Speaker 2: It would be like electing.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I have to I wish I had it

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in front of me. Well, I'll look it up and

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I'll tweet it out.

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Speaker 2: I will say I have been recruited before to run

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for higher office, and I can't figure out why anyone

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does it and why that would be an appealing thing

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for me to do. I feel genuinely like I have

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a much better life as a citizen journalist than you know,

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as a member of the United States Senate or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I can't agree more. To me, there's no maybe no

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worse life other than maybe living in you know, you know,

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another country somewhere, third world country. Can you imagine having

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to think about every word you say and wondering if

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people are going to agree with you, and trying to

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appeal to the largest number of people, and like your

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whole life is so rip did and fake. I think

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people lose their souls as politicians, especially when they're there

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for a long time. Not everyone, but most of them.

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Speaker 2: I have a few friends who are in elected office

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and I genuinely like them, but I think there's something

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to be said about that sounds Sometimes I think, I

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think this is wrong, But sometimes I think that there's

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something wrong with you if you run for office.

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Speaker 1: Of course there is.

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Speaker 2: But on the other hand, you know, you see all

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these people talking about how we need to radically change

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the country, or you know, on the right, you hear

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a lot of calls for Christian nationalism, and I genuinely

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don't understand what Christian nationalism is. And what I mean

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by that is, if you ask five people what Christian

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nationalism is, I probably qualify under two or three of

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the definitions, but definitely not under two or three. You

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know what I mean, Like, there's no set definition of it.

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But the thing I was thinking is if you want

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our government to be Christian, I think you should focus

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maybe on running for office at a lower level. I

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got this idea by listening to Issues, Etc. My favorite

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podcast that was talking about this topic, and they were

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saying there are a lot of people who talk big

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about Christian nationalism yet don't run for school board or

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for mayor maybe start in your own town or in

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your own sphere of where God has placed you, and

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then see how it goes, and then start talking about

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radically changing the entire country. And then separately, I always

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think about how the founding fathers understood that our system

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of government was made only for a religious and moral

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people and it couldn't survive without it. So another good

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focus for people who talk about this is to work

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on talking to their friends, neighbor's family about the need

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to be moral and religious and specifically Christian. But you

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know what I mean, Like, I don't want to dissuadeople

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form running for office, because actually they should be running

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for office. It's just I don't think I'm a good

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person to run for office.

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Speaker 1: Well, people who run for office are typically embodied C. S.

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Lewis's quote about of all the tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely

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exercised for the good of its victims maybe the most oppressive.

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And I was thinking to that quote.

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Speaker 2: David, no, I don't I just can I push back

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Speaker 1: Or no?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think frequently we hear about a lot

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of the members of Congress or other elected officials who

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are the worst. I was thinking about this related time

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on like Tangent eighteen here, But did you see where

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AOC went after Riley gains and disparaged her as tying

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for fifth in a race.

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Speaker 1: Well, she was the fifth best swimmer in the entire

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country in her first off.

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Speaker 2: Yes, being the fifth fastest woman in the country is

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nothing to be ashamed of, particularly when you're racing against

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a guy who, like, the last year he raced with

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the men, he was five hundred and fiftieth, and then

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his time the year that he tied with Riley or whatever,

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would have been four hundred and fifty in the among men.

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You know. So she's clearly got a legitimate beef here

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being forced to race against a guy like that. But

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more than that, I just thought it was really mean

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of AOC. She said, maybe, like, you know, you should

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put more time into swimming so you don't end up

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in fifth place or something. And then she later said,

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when Riley said I challenge you to a debate, She's like,

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I challenge you to get a real job, And it

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was just so mean, and I was on Laura Ingram

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the other night talking about it about how the Democrat

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and really angry single women, because married women tend not

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to vote Democrat anywhere near the rates of single women.

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But in my life, I don't have mean girls. My

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relationships with women have been fantastic. I have wonderful friends,

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I've always had wonderful female colleagues. I've had wonderful female bosses.

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Like you don't hear, but you have this stereotype about

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how awful women are to each other, in part because

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the awful ones tend to be more prominent. Like a

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good woman, you might not hear about it all because

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she is in her home, caring for her home, caring

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for her children, or the people that have been placed

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around her, And the people who don't do that are

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the ones who are much more high profile. Anyway. Yeah, No,

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I just think the same thing applies to politicians. We

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frequently hear about the worst ones without realizing that there

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are a lot of really wonderful people out there running

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their school board or running their city council, or you

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know what I mean. Just like lower level political action.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would say this. I think our society these days,

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I think we live in an idiocracy and you're incentivized

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to be me, and you're incentivized to be provocative, and

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someone like AOC, I would I would say, uh is

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essentially a influencer who is in politics. Like if I

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asked you what is AOC's greatest accomplishment, no one would

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be able to tell me what she's done. There's no bill,

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there's no idea.

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Speaker 2: Back she collaps back at the Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so there's a lot of that. Now, she's in

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a in a healthy environment in Congress should be a

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she'd be just a backbencher and no one would care.

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An outlier and a nut. So it is it was

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funny to watch her tell someone else to get a

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real job. So the politician that does the real work,

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that tries to build consensus on a bill whatever, those

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people are not rewarded. So it's much easier to just

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because I'll give you an example. You might disagree and

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people will get mad. But Mike Lee was a serious

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person in the past, and I think he was just

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enticed in to being this boomer online dad joke guy,

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which I think is demeaning to his job and his intellect.

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And I'm not comparing him to AOCU, I think is

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a far worse actor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, in his defense, I think part of

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the problem is that Congress itself has become completely broken.

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It's very difficult, you know. I think the last couple

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of years we've seen some nice clarity about what the

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executive branch is and who is in charge of the

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executive branch. But it doesn't really mean much if you

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have a completely impotent Article one branch, and both in

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the Senate and the House, things have just broken down.

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They're not even doing well. The few you know, the

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things that are given to them in the Constitution, and

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a lot of them are spending more time, you know,

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doing podcasts or social media than moving to improve the

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country in like. But part of that is because it's

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so difficult to get anything done in the Senate, as

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evidenced by our current shutdown. I mean, I'm not complaining

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about needing sixty votes in the Senate. I think that's

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a good thing, but it's not good that our government

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doesn't really seem like it's shut down, which kind of

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gives the impression that maybe the people aren't in charge

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of the government at all, and that you can have

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you know, you can have this shutdown go on for weeks,

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if not months, and most people don't really notice any difference.

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Speaker 1: Shutdowns are good. I'm happy when shutdowns happen, just produce

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to everyone that our federal government is way too big

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and has way too many non essential jobs. It's funny

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when you hear how non essential workers will be sent home,

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like what organization as non essential workers? But the government.

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of non essential workers. Two thirds of our workforce is

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non essential. So I was thinking about how Congress has

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become completely irrelevant and how bad that is for the nation.

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was run with Ronald Reagan speaking out against tariffs and

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all that, so I did a deep dive on it.

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I don't want to get into that too much, the

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tariff part of it. But what was different in those

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days and why Donald Trump Ronald Reagan occasionally put on

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some short term tariffs was to head off Congressional moves

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that would have had long term implications on protectionism. It

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was a very protectionist Congress in the eighties. And my

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point only is that Congress used to exert his power

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in a far better way, and you'd have this balance.

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It would force the president to move a little towards Congress.

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Congress would have to deal with the you know, and

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he vetoed you know, Ronald Reagan and vetoed many protectionist bills.

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But that's how it should be working, whether you agree

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with Reagan or the Congress or Donald Trump or not.

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And that's just not how it works. It's not how

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it's worked since I would say, Barack Obama, and we've

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talked about this before. I just think it's it's quoting

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the Republic in a lot of the way.

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Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to finding out. I mean, it's not.

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Another thing that's not great is how much power the

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Supreme Court has in the country, meaning that we're relying

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on nine people, some of whom really aren't up to

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the task to determine what the law is or what

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the Constitution says or not. It's not a great place

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for the country to be. But like I just mentioned,

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they had provided some really important clarity about whether we

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are a constitutional Republic or not. They say yes, and

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that that means that the president is in charge of

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the executive branch. They keep saying it over and over again,

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and we'd gone through decades of pretending that, you know,

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like the DOJ is independent of the president. That was

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a very commonly held belief during the first Trump administration,

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even though constitutionally it doesn't make any sense. But I'm

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also looking forward to seeing what they say about the

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tariff issues, because it seems like part of the problem

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again is what you just said, Congress is broken or

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you know, is not asserting its authority like it should

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be here. But it's also true that the constitution gives

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taxation to Congress and foreign policy in many ways to

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the executive and throughout our country's history we've had, you know,

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even just to your Reagan reference, short term tariffs to

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stave off Congress from doing more protectionism. Well, if Congress

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wanted to do more protectionism, it was within their rights, right.

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And yet people kind of understand that there is this

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role for the president. It's evolved over time in war

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powers and foreign policy in general, and it would be

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good to have some clarification so we know what the

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set line is and what that means going forward, both

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for people who you know, would push for a more

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authority for the president to enact tariffs or those who

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think that's a bad idea.

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Speaker 1: There is no conception of the founding or the Constitution

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where the president is empowered to declare emergencies on literally

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every country on earth, to institute tariffs or to raise tariffs.

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Because the Ontario Province read an ad he didn't like,

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these are not emergency powers. And I really hope that

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the Supreme.

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Speaker 2: Court generally, like you know, the president frequently in very

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specific tariffs on specific people, you know, sanctions, Oh, we

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don't like Putin, so we're going to sanction him, his family,

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any business he's associated with. And there's a foreign policy

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angle to tariffs in general. So if another country is

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it continues to bother me how much people care about

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Americans placing tariffs while caring not at all about other

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countries placing tariffs. And so part of this tariff policy

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that Trump is putting forward is in response to unfree

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and very unfair trade practices imposed by other countries. And

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so there is you know, there's again a foreign policy

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angle to this that you know there's a way to

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avoid war by enacting tariffs. There are, and similarly with

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sanctions and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I just think I have to push back. I'm sorry,

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but thank you for bringing this up because it's been

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bugging me. First of all, sanctions are not taxes on Americans.

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Sanctions are sanctions. Terrorists are taxes on foreign imports. It's

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very clear delineation of that in the Constitution. But more

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than that, Donald Trump doesn't put tariffs on countries for

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emergency reasons or even unfree trade, because I forget how

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many countries they were that he put tariffs on that

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had lower reciprocal rates than we did. He likes tariffs

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as because he thinks it allows us to be self

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sufficient and he believes in protectionism. He has since the

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eighties when he first got in talking about the Japanese

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and politics. And the idea that all these tariffs are

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emergencies or would rise to the level of a national

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emergency is just false. Canadas are one of our great

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gred you know. Second, I think, largest trading partner, and

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we are lowering ourselves and acting like these socialist countries

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when we start taxing American consumers. But that's a different debate.

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The debate I think we should be having is what's

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an emergency? What's foreign policy should I think American consumers

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should be able to buy whatever they want. I don't

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understand how why the government is allowed to tell an

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individual that they can't buy something that's made better if

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they like it better from Japan. And you know, I

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understand if there's a like when we talk about Ronald Reagany. Yeah,

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he puts some very short term tariffs on semiconductors, for instance,

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because there is some kind of at least plausible national

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security reason to do something like that. There's no national

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security issue on avocados or whatever else. Trump is is tariffing.

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I mean, if you want to pass those tariffs, Congress

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should do it. Anyway, if you want.

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Speaker 3: To be wealthy, you have to have a wealthy mindset.

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Speaker 3: Walk away from easy money. Ignore most of the headlines

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because ninety five percent of them are garbage. Always continue

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to reinvest, whether it's happening in DC or down on

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Wall Street. It's affecting you financially.

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Speaker 2: I want to live in a world with free market

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where nobody is applying any tariffs to anything. It is

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also true that some of what you mentioned here points

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to similarities between sanctions and tariffs. You know that they

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are done for the primary purpose is usually to compel

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a change in a policy by a country or or

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a group of people without using military force. The primary

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point of Trump's tariffs is not to tax the American people,

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you know. And and also it's not like it's not

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like the most massive tax on the American people. Not

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that not that that should change anything. There. The nature

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of a sanction and attax and I'm sorry, the nature

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of a sanction and a tariff is a restrictive measure

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imposed by a government on international trade. It's a it's

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a form of political pressure. Sanctions frequently mean trade embargoes,

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just like a tariff is related to that, and they're

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kind of specific. You know, you have a tariff on

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a particular country or a particular industry in the same

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way that the sanction can be very specific as opposed

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to broad taxation on you know, the entire citizenry. So

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I think that it's more complicated than people really on

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either side like to talk about. I agree that taxation

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is given to Congress, that that's a very strong argument

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against presidents imposing them, you know. Latterly, I just think

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it's also a form of political pressure for the benefit

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of the entire country, to say, what you've done to

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American producers, you know, we will no longer tolerate that,

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or you're using your power to threaten us. And yeah,

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avocados can be like I'm not you know, I don't

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know what the specifics are, but it can be any

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good that can be related to national security. And I

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think it's naive to pretend it can't be.

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Speaker 1: Canada and Mexico.

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Speaker 2: I think Reagan, I don't think Reagan imposed tariffs or

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either Bush imposed tariffs, just you know, like as a

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short term solution to keep Congress from doing more protectionism.

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I think that presidents have found them to be a

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very useful thing for political pressure.

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Speaker 1: Well, anyone who's anyone who's interested. At the Washington Examiner,

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I wrote a very long, deep dive into Reagan's views

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on tariffs. I went through his diaries, I went through

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his autobiography. I went through every policy in every tariff

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that he embraced him why his reasoning was for doing it.

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If they're interested, I don't think he liked tariffs at all.

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I think he hated them and he loathed to use them,

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and he only did so too. I don't know about

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the bushes. I didn't look into that, and I don't

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really care, because if they were tariffing people, I think

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they were wrong. But I guess the bottom line. First

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of all, a tariff is by definition attacks, it's tax

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on Americans. It's collected by the treasury on this side

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to the border. But here's the thing. I just think

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that politicians and we should demand this of them. And

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I know it sounds idealistic, that they should uphold or

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try at least or think about upholding the Constitution, not

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constantly looking for cynical ways to circumvent what is clearly

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not there, you know, to do things that are clearly

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not within their purview. So I think this tower of

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stuff and JD. Van's threatening the Senate, I can't even

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believe this stuff is happening because in the old days,

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if you threaten the Senate, they would band together and say,

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we're not just in a partisan alliance, where this is

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the Senate is an institution, but no one really cares

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about that. I don't really blame JD. Van's because Obama

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did this to Democrats and they went along with everything

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he wanted. Boy, we're veered off the little list here.

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But you also talked about Christian nationalism, which is a

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very interesting topic to me. I think with the way

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the left defines it, I would be a Christian nationalist,

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but there are Christian nation lists out there who are

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theocrats in this essence, I think I agree. I think

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that the Founders wanted civil society to be Christian, and

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I don't mean like any denomination really though they didn't

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like Catholics generally very much. But I think they wanted

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us to be a moral people. Even Adam Smith first

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made an argument about moral people being involved in freedom

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and trade. But I don't think it's safe into government.

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Government's already too big. And there are more and more

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Christian nationalists out there, I mean real ones, not the

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ones that like.

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Speaker 2: Again, I need definitions because I truly don't know how

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to have the conversation without it.

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Speaker 1: Christian nationalist is someone who wants to involve Christianity as

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a form of governance in some way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but see that's even that I think the devil

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is in the details U pun intended. So Americans kind

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of got syoped in recent decades into acting like if

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you are in any way influenced by your belief system,

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that that's a violation of our separation of church and state.

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Christians believe that the law that God has given us

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is for the benefit of everybody, not just us, but

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for everybody. So and that it's written in people's hearts.

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You're not supposed to kill. This ultimately is not something

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that Christians believe because people said it somewhere, you know,

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a couple hundred years ago, but because God says it.

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And that's not in contrast with having with with governance.

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It should be applied to governance. You should have laws

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that are God pleasing because they are good for everybody.

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And so I need to know more.

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Speaker 1: You know, Well, that's an opinion you have, and if

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enough people I agree. By the way, you know, in

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theoretically that there's absolutely zero wrong with letting religion, even

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any religion, influence your voting. That's part of who you are.

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A thinking person has faith or or whatever. So the

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idea that you're not allowed to like, for instance, say

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I'm against abortion because God says it's killing is nonsense.

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On the other side, there are a lot of people

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out there these days, I think that say stuff like

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Indians from India aren't good Americans, or that you know,

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Hindus are this or that, or that they shouldn't be

479
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or that a certain kind of religious person shouldn't be

480
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,599
allowed to serve in Congress or whatever, And there's a

481
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lot of that out there. I think those people qualify

482
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as some form of Christian nationalists. I think it's wrong.

483
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,519
Now if you say we should change our immigration policy,

484
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that's a different story.

485
00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: So that that latter example that you were just giving,

486
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:40,440
that's what I was referencing when I was saying, why

487
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,119
don't you start doing it in your little town first,

488
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and then you see how it works and see if

489
00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:49,880
it's popular with a larger group of people.

490
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Speaker 1: I have to say, the local politicians that I've met

491
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,240
in my life are often more fascistic than the national ones.

492
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,319
They're like the worst sometimes, so yeah, it would be

493
00:27:57,319 --> 00:28:02,880
great if good people started getting involved. Molly, I don't

494
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,759
know where we were. I was going to go off

495
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:08,319
on prep schools and play the main catty. We took

496
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,839
a little good turn there, I mean a diversion there.

497
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,440
So anyway, I think his campaign is in big trouble.

498
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,759
That guy. You want to talk a little bit about

499
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:21,640
some other races quickly since we mentioned him, So the

500
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,519
big races right now are in well, New York City

501
00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:26,720
is important. I think it's important. I don't think mm

502
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,880
Doney's going to turn New York into a Muslim you know,

503
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,559
province or something, but I think it's important about what

504
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,839
it says about the modern left and all their support

505
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,519
for it. The New York governor supports him. Hakim Jeffreys

506
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:43,960
now has endorsed him, like major players in the Democratic

507
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:46,400
Party have DS have endorsed this guy who's an anti

508
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:52,000
semi a terrorist apologist at best, and that says something

509
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,680
very bad about their party. I think he'll win, though,

510
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:59,400
and uh, I think we agreed. We spoke about this

511
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,599
last week May we did.

512
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Speaker 2: And there's just one other thing I want to mention,

513
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which I learned a couple of days ago, which is

514
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,799
that there are about as many Muslims in New York

515
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:11,359
City as Jews in New York City.

516
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,799
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and also.

517
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: It's a large city for Jews. Like I don't know

518
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,400
how many millions of Jews there are in America. I'm

519
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,599
thinking like six million and one million of them live

520
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,880
in New York City. And similarly, I think a huge

521
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,000
percentage of the Muslims in the country live in New

522
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:34,559
York City. Just interesting. So one of these it plays

523
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:36,480
into the race, right, like a lot of people are like,

524
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:39,359
how could the Jewish city of New York elect a Muslim.

525
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:42,559
It's like, because it's not so Jewish anymore, it's very Muslim.

526
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I saw one of these podcast or

527
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:52,000
kind of people say, like forty percent of Jews are

528
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,920
going to vote for Mom Donnie. They deserve what they get, essentially.

529
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:58,480
But the problem there is that many Jewish people are

530
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:01,160
incredibly secularized in New York. I don't think they even

531
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,720
really consider themselves Jewish in any kind of recognizable way

532
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,799
as far as tradition or anything goes cultural or any otherwise.

533
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:12,319
And then of course there's just like there was an

534
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:15,680
at the other day, four rabbis from Mom Donnie right,

535
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:19,319
And there were four at first glance, first four women

536
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:24,279
rabbis who I wouldn't I don't even accept as rabbis frankly,

537
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:30,200
but one of them was a transgendered rabbi. I had

538
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,880
noted that. I was happy they at least had one

539
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,119
male rabbi there. But then I looked into the male rabbi,

540
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,839
and this male rabbi doesn't even believe in God. So

541
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,559
and then you know, a lot of Jews have adopted

542
00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:47,559
socialistic attitudes, not new, but I think forty percent of Jews,

543
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,799
meaning sixty percent, are not voting for him. It's pretty amazing.

544
00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:55,200
Forty percent of everyone in New York is going to

545
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,720
vote for Mom Donnie, forty percent of every basically every group,

546
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:01,799
because he's a demo credit candidate and they like socialism.

547
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:11,440
So anyway, let's talk about Virginia. So in Virginia, I

548
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:13,400
just forget the guy's name. Is it J Jones who's

549
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,559
running for ag AG J Jones? He wants to He's

550
00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:20,519
the guy who texted that he wanted to kill his

551
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:25,440
very specific text about killing his Was it his opponent

552
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:26,720
or was it another Democrat?

553
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:30,519
Speaker 2: It was the Republican Speaker of the House. Okay, it

554
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:32,720
wasn't his opponent or a Democrat, but it was a

555
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,960
Republican Speaker of the House.

556
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:40,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he has fallen behind in polls, but Spanberger,

557
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:43,640
I think is still up relatively comfortably. I would say

558
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,400
she is a piece of work. I keep seeing that

559
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,960
ad where when some sears asks her to comment on

560
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,279
the J. Jones texts and she won't. She just smirks

561
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:59,519
and looks off into the distance. She won't answer any

562
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:03,960
questions a matter of support for prefer allowing biologically you know,

563
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,680
biological males and girls, locker rooms or anything like that.

564
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,240
She's just terrible. She's probably going to win. People keep

565
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,240
talking about Virginia like it's a purple state. I just don't.

566
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:16,759
I just think it's a blue state.

567
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:23,359
Speaker 2: You know, it's so blue, and yet right now it

568
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,880
has a Republican governor, attorney general, and lieutenant governor.

569
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to say, it seems to be like

570
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:31,880
they want. I think he's done a great job. But

571
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,839
I think he won because of the school issue up

572
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,039
north there right. I just think at Post COVID there

573
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:43,680
was just this incredibly ridiculous anti parent movement going on

574
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:46,359
that he latched onto. That really smartly, and one I

575
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:49,240
don't know if he would win today any again. And

576
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:55,039
then there's the race in New Jersey where the Republican

577
00:32:55,119 --> 00:33:00,160
is Jack Ciarelli who's running against Mickey Cheryl. Is that

578
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,799
our name? I don't know how many times in my

579
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,880
life I have been told that a Republican is going

580
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,480
to finally catch you know, the Democrat in New Jersey.

581
00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:12,480
Not that they haven't ed Republican government in the past,

582
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,759
but that was a different kind of world, and that

583
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:19,599
in other states as well, where where that are very

584
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,119
solidly blue states that I am, I'm skeptical, but he

585
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,279
looks like he's made up a lot of ground and

586
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:28,960
that he's around five points behind her.

587
00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: So on the reason to be positive about him, he's

588
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:39,640
a good candidate. He overperforms his polls historically, so pollsters

589
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:44,200
frequently have trouble polling races, but in New Jersey in particular,

590
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:47,400
it seems to it seems to have a real systemic

591
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:52,160
flaw that makes Democrats look like they are more likely

592
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,480
to win than they are. They still win, but they

593
00:33:56,519 --> 00:34:00,279
have a hard time calculating the whole vote total thing.

594
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,759
And Chittarelli way overperformed last time. He ran for governor,

595
00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:07,839
and the mood of the country and the state I

596
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,559
think people think has improved slightly for him. He's just

597
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:14,599
a good candidate and he's running a good race. The

598
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:18,960
reason why you shouldn't be optimistic is that Democrats are

599
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:25,480
still far, far, far better than Republicans at ballot harvesting

600
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:30,679
and ballot operations. They understand that you don't win elections

601
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,519
based on conventional race models of trying to make the

602
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,039
best case for what you will do and persuading people

603
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:39,400
to show up to vote on election day. You win

604
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,159
based on how many ballots with your name get into

605
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:44,760
the ballot box. And those can be from people who

606
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,079
know that they're voting and people who don't really know

607
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,119
you know. So Democrats are really good about going into

608
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:54,440
low propensity areas, low propensity to vote areas, and getting

609
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,960
those ballots filled out and getting them in the ballot

610
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,559
box in a way that wouldn't normally happen in a

611
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:06,320
completely free and fair election. And it is time consuming

612
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,239
and expensive to do ballot operations. But in an off

613
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,599
yr election where you only have to get Prop fifty

614
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:19,400
passed in California, and then the new Jersey governor and

615
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,920
the Virginia races like the It's just much easier to

616
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,559
run that kind of operation. And so I would expect

617
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,239
that Republicans who seem to think that all election problems

618
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,480
got solved in twenty twenty four because Donald Trump won,

619
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,559
when that's so not true. It's not even funny. He

620
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:40,719
just is a massively popular figure. They are easing up

621
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,320
way too much on ballot operations. I mean, they're doing them,

622
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,159
but they're not doing them at the level that they

623
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:47,159
should be doing them, because that's how you win elections.

624
00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: Now, I lived in New Jersey twice actually in my life,

625
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,519
and people realize it's essentially a suburb of Philadelphia in

626
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:01,719
a suburb of New York. So there's it's a difficult

627
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,679
state for Republicans. I mean, there were a lot of

628
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:07,000
obtainable votes in the middle of the state and in

629
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:10,079
the outlying suburbs, but there's a it's basically New York

630
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:13,880
and it's basically Philly, and that's a tough, tough position

631
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,000
to be in. So I think that's those are the

632
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,840
main races really the people are paying attention to. Right now,

633
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:22,559
let's talk about Grocopedia.

634
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,639
Speaker 2: Oh yes, okay, so I didn't even know about it.

635
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:29,079
I don't know how I missed this that it was

636
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:31,840
being created, but apparently Elon Musk a couple of years

637
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:37,320
ago set out to create an alternative to Wikipedia, and

638
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:41,440
that is clearly needed. Wikipedia is just a hotbed of

639
00:36:41,519 --> 00:36:47,079
leftist activism and lies. I have not read my my

640
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,079
Thing there, my bio there in years, but when I

641
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:53,840
read it years ago, it just was It was mean.

642
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,199
It was as if it were written by the people

643
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,480
who hate me the most, and it was also factually accurate,

644
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,119
and there's nothing you can do about it. You are

645
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:05,400
either in the in group, in which case you are

646
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:08,360
heavenly and wonderful, or you're in the outgroup. And so

647
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,239
I think, you know, a couple of years ago, it

648
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,320
was like focusing on how I opposed the Russia collusion hoax.

649
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,119
I was one of the primary people to fight back

650
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:19,320
against that, which I'm very proud of. But it was

651
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,039
presenting this as if that meant that I was a

652
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:25,760
conspiracy theorist because I had successfully destroyed that conspiracy theory,

653
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,639
so you know, and then as a teacher at Hillsdale,

654
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:37,119
I I've learned just you know, nobody at Hillsdale whatever

655
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,119
use Wikipedia for sourcing, but you just kind of start

656
00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:43,119
thinking about how much that is the first stop for

657
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:46,159
people when they are going to write something. They might

658
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:48,440
look at what Wikipedia has to say, and it sets

659
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,719
them on a particular trajectory that can be very bad.

660
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,920
So I am thrilled that he did it, and I

661
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,039
started like looking at it because I was. I was

662
00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:02,760
in the shower yesterday and Mark was reading me my

663
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,960
Grockipedia and it was surse. First of all, it was

664
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:14,920
incredibly long and detailed, but surprisingly very accurate and neutral.

665
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,800
And it's weird to read a neutral you know, there

666
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,599
are people who love you who are like, oh, she's

667
00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:22,320
the best, and there are people who hate you and

668
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,079
she's the worst. And this was just more like, this

669
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:27,440
is her background, this is what she does, this is

670
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,079
what critics say, this is what supporters say, and it was.

671
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,920
It was wonderful. I'm sure it'll get destroyed because this

672
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:39,320
is the very first iteration of it, and I'm sure

673
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,719
as it continues it'll get worse. But I was really

674
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,480
happy to see it. And then I was looking, you know,

675
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:48,719
other entries up and was also pleasantly surprised to see

676
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,320
how neutral, how rigorously neutral, it was.

677
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:56,039
Speaker 1: I agree with you on Wikipedia. My page there, I

678
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:59,400
haven't looked at it in a while, was incorrect factually.

679
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,239
And I remember looking years ago at the Federalist page

680
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,880
when I worked at the Federalist and it had COVID,

681
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,239
you know, a list of COVID conspiracies that the Federalists

682
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,239
had engaged in, and all the conspiracies had actually turned

683
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,800
out to be true, but no one had updated, you know,

684
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,079
the page. So it's a very politically driven site. It

685
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:25,280
has its history on let's say, like Israel or Zionism

686
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,239
is completely fictitious, you know what I mean, And that's

687
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,960
just something I'm interested in. I did like to go

688
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,719
to it because it has like if you go to

689
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,440
a band page, it has there every album you know,

690
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,000
and it talks about it. It's like a lot of

691
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:40,760
good information like that's not political. But I've tried to

692
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,880
not go there because I hate the other stuff they do.

693
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,400
I went to Grokipediatrical for a spin and it was

694
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,360
seemed pretty good. But my problem is this, it's driven

695
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,519
by AI. I think right, and I have had a

696
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:57,159
lot of problems with AI. I think AI is getting worse.

697
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,159
That includes groc which is actually my favorite AI. I

698
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:04,559
was using AI as like a supercharged search engine, like

699
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:08,360
a Google, but supercharge where you get tons of information

700
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,840
and links and all of that. I did a piece

701
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,000
on Mamdanie and I put in, you know, I was

702
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,119
looking into his debt and him and quotes, and it

703
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,880
spit out like ten fake quotes. To me, Yes, so

704
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:27,679
you cannot really trust AI. It's too easily manipulated. So

705
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,880
I say to AI, these are not real quotes. What's happening,

706
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,280
And it like profusely apologizes to me the AI and

707
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,800
gives me spits out more fake quotes. So I've been like,

708
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:41,119
I tested out quite a bit in that sense, and

709
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:44,360
it doesn't really work. So that's why I'm slightly skeptical

710
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,199
of a Krockipedia, But it so far is from what

711
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,719
I've seen, is definitely a big improvement over Wikipedia, which

712
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,079
is just a leftist site which I can't trust.

713
00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:59,119
Speaker 2: So you mentioned the bands, and when I was touring

714
00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:04,920
around last night on the two places, uniformly, Grokkipedia was better,

715
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except like it didn't even have entries for some of

716
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:10,920
the things I was looking for, Like I wanted to

717
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,079
see what the plot of the movie The Accountant was

718
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:18,000
without having to watch the accountant. I couldn't find anything

719
00:41:18,039 --> 00:41:21,320
in Grokipedia, whereas Wikipedia just tells you the entire plot.

720
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,079
It's not always like the best description, but it at

721
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:27,199
least kind of gets you a general understanding of it.

722
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:34,679
Someone posted what the two sites say for George Floyd,

723
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:37,800
and I thought it was interesting. So for Wikipedia, it

724
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,679
says George Perry Floyd was an African American man who

725
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,360
was murdered by a white police officer in Minneapolis, Minnesota,

726
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:47,880
during an arrest made after a store clerk suspected Floyd

727
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,360
had used a counterfeit twenty dollars bill. Derek Chovin, one

728
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,880
of four police officers who arrived on the scene, knelt

729
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,440
on Floyd's neck and back for nine minutes, fatally asphyxiating him.

730
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,119
After his murder, a series of protests again and police brutality,

731
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:04,519
especially toward black people, quickly spread globally and across the US.

732
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His dying words, I can't breathe became a rallying slogan.

733
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So pretty typical Wikipedia type entry.

734
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Speaker 1: Right.

735
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: For Grockipedia, it says George Perry Floyd was an American

736
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:19,960
man with a lengthy criminal record, including convictions for armed robbery,

737
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:23,039
drug possession and theft in Texas from nineteen ninety seven

738
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to two thousand and seven. On May twenty twenty, Floyd

739
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,800
was arrested in Minneapolis, Minnesota, after a store clerk reported

740
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,119
that he had used a counterfeit twenty dollars bill to

741
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purchase cigarettes. During the arrest, which involved resistance from Floyd,

742
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who repeatedly stated he could not breathe. Even before being

743
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,119
placed prone, officer Derek Chauvin nelt on Floyd's neck for

744
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:46,639
nine minutes and twenty nine seconds while Floyd became unresponsive.

745
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,639
The Hennepin County Medical Examiner ruled Floyd's death a homicide

746
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,320
due to cardiopulmonary arrests complicating law enforcement, subdual restraint, and

747
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net compression, with contributing factors including severe hypertensive a theisclerotica,

748
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:05,679
cardiovascular disease, fentanyl intoxication, and recent methamphetamine use. Toxology tests

749
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,119
detected eleven mg over mL of fentanyl in his blood,

750
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a level associated with overdose fatalities in individuals without tolerance.

751
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:16,800
Chauvin was convicted in twenty one of second degree unintentional murder,

752
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,320
third degree murder, and second degree manslaughter receiving a twenty

753
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,079
two point five year sentence. Floyd's death, widely disseminated via

754
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:28,280
bystanderd video, precipitated extensive civil unrest across the United States

755
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,440
and internationally, including riots causing billions in property damage, alongside

756
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,159
debates over police use of force, the role of Floyd's

757
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:39,639
health and substance abuse in his demise, and systemic issues

758
00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:44,039
in law enforcement interactions with suspects exhibiting non compliance or intoxication.

759
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,000
So that's just the beginning of each one. You can

760
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:52,400
tell that the Grockipedia is much more detailed. It's longer,

761
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:55,440
and that was something I found when I was surveying

762
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,119
the two sites, but also just written more neutrally like.

763
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,159
It includes the same information, but it includes a lot

764
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:09,599
of other information that gives you a fuller perspective. Yeah, no,

765
00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:10,800
I do.

766
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Speaker 1: In that instance, for sure, I wonder where they're pulling

767
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:16,920
from or I mean, obviously there are algorithms and very

768
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,119
complicated things going on. I don't understand about how it

769
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:23,039
can keep its language neutral through AI and so on,

770
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:26,559
but yeah, I'm all for it. I'd love to have

771
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:30,320
an alternative to Wikipedia, which frankly sometimes is just very

772
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,079
easy to use, especially like you know, some historical event

773
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:35,320
you don't know a lot about or whatever. I try

774
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,000
to use others like Britannica or but then I noticed

775
00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:40,679
it has almost the same wording, so I think maybe

776
00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:46,760
they share information. I just quickly wanted to mention we

777
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,920
don't even need to talk about this. How happy I

778
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,840
was at JAVIERMLA when a landslide election in Argentina that

779
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,119
will allow him to continue his libertarian experiment in that country.

780
00:44:57,159 --> 00:45:01,000
I would call it it. It heartens me because usually

781
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,599
when you have a crisis cause by status government policies,

782
00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:09,280
voters want more statism to fix it, and this is

783
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:12,079
you know, it happens all the time. This is the

784
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:15,880
opposite is happening there, which is a real outlier in politics.

785
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,119
Speaker 2: In the world.

786
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: And I just really hope that he succeeds because he's

787
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:24,440
one of my favorite people. Let's also talk about the

788
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,719
abortion pill.

789
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's kind of a longer story. Going back

790
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,960
to Barack Obama, he fast tracks approval of mefapristone, the

791
00:45:33,039 --> 00:45:39,320
abortion drug with certain regulations for safety. So methhapristone, which

792
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,960
is far and away the most common way to kill

793
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:48,320
an unborn child these days, also has things like it

794
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:53,840
can cause heavy bleeding, serious complications for women, including hemorrhaging

795
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,800
and other things. There's also the issue that because it's

796
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,880
a pill that can be just ground up and putting

797
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,679
people's food. There are a lot of examples of people

798
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,599
just getting it, Like people who love abortion will just

799
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:09,559
send it out in the mail to anyone who asks,

800
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,360
and that can include a father who's sexually abusing his daughter,

801
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:18,519
or a sex trafficker, or just like an angry boyfriend

802
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:20,840
who doesn't want to support the child that he created

803
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,440
by having sex with his girlfriend. You know, like all

804
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,800
sorts of bad people can use it, can get it

805
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,599
very easily. Oh sorry, I skipped a bunch. Obama had

806
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,239
certain regulations in place, like you were supposed to visit

807
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,039
a doctor both before you take the pill and after

808
00:46:36,159 --> 00:46:38,239
so that they can monitor. You were supposed to find

809
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,639
out the gestation of the child and location of the pregnancy.

810
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:45,559
Sometimes a pregnancy can develop in a place where it

811
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:49,000
would be dangerous for a woman to take an abortion pill,

812
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,239
even more than usual because it's a neck topic pregnancy

813
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:57,159
that's taking place outside the womb. So all sorts of

814
00:46:57,599 --> 00:46:59,159
issues where you might want to have a doctor in

815
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:03,239
play well, then Trump comes into office, Then Biden comes

816
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,119
into office, and he removes a lot of the regulations

817
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,920
protecting women from the dangers associated with MEFI pristone. Trump

818
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,880
comes into office and does not reinstate those common sense

819
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,679
regulations and also tells people that they're going to finally,

820
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:25,519
like actually review mepha pristone for safety reasons, and a

821
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:31,079
cursory safety review will just objectively speaking, will definitely change

822
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:34,199
the regulatory framework for the drug, because there are drugs

823
00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:37,079
with far fewer complications for people that are much more

824
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:42,000
highly regulated, and yet nothing's really happened on that. So

825
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:48,239
pro lifers who genuinely appreciate Trump one and understand that

826
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,800
Trump two is far better than Kamala Harris or Joe Biden.

827
00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:55,840
Also we're like, you know, they're an important part of

828
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,280
his constituency and they would probably like to start getting

829
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,199
out and working in midterm elections and stuff like that,

830
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,639
and they're waiting for just the most basic things that

831
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:09,199
were promised to them to be done. Usually, HHS is

832
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,079
a department that when Republicans are in power, pro lifers

833
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:16,400
have a really strong role there. Because of MAHA, rf

834
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:19,320
K has like a different you know, he's obviously not

835
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,519
a social conservative, he's not a pro lifer ish person.

836
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,760
So it's been a little like of a delicate dance

837
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,280
to make sure enough people who care about human life

838
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,320
are in there, and they feel like they are a

839
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:34,079
very natural fit with Maha, meaning you know, people who

840
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:36,440
are pro life tend to just care about human life

841
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,440
at all points in the quality of life and stuff

842
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,920
like that too. But there's been just a bunch of

843
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,920
slow walking of it, and a lot of people think

844
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,039
it's because Trump and Susie Wiles. A lot of people

845
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:50,199
with reason to believe this think Trump and Susie Wiles

846
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:55,400
are concerned about the political implications of imposing reimposing those

847
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,800
common sense regulations from the Obama era or the first

848
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,360
Trump era, or getting a report that shows just how

849
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,360
bad methipristone is for women getting a government report, and

850
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,519
so they, you know, I think they're kind of like,

851
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:12,360
wouldn't it be great if this could come out after

852
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,800
a year from now and then they might do something

853
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,159
on it. So it's just kind of an interesting political

854
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:20,159
battle that's taking place. And Jordan Boyd and I had

855
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:24,280
a piece on it because Trump's polster pulled sixteen hundred

856
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,440
likely voters, and a majority of them were pretty strongly

857
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:31,159
pro abortion, and yet also a very strong majority of

858
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:36,239
them supported you know, like having the label on the

859
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,559
abortion drug explain the complications, or having a doctor's visit

860
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:44,440
be a required part of administration of the abortion pill.

861
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: Around Reportedly around sixty three percent of all abortions are

862
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,599
done through medication, which amounted in twenty twenty four to

863
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:02,079
six hundred thy fifty four around lives. The White House

864
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:05,000
says that it's powerless really to do anything because the

865
00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:07,920
FDA is just following the law, which is not true,

866
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,599
because the FDA put the regulations in place in the

867
00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:13,880
first place so they could return them if they wanted to.

868
00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:18,079
I always feel like you're baiting me with your description

869
00:50:18,159 --> 00:50:21,719
of what MAHA is. I know you're not, but let's

870
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,840
face it. Rfk was More has told the American people

871
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,800
that Thailand oil is more dangerous than the abortion pill.

872
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,360
He has made a bigger deal, a fraudulent deal in

873
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,360
my opinion, over Thailand al than he has a pill

874
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,000
that kills over six hundred thousand that you know, lives

875
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,480
per year. So I think pro life should be pretty

876
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,480
mad about that. This was their big issue when RFK

877
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,239
was in front of the Senate. This was the big

878
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,880
issue that GOP focused on.

879
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,639
Speaker 2: David, I do want to say, though, pregnant women should

880
00:50:57,679 --> 00:51:00,760
not take thailanol. That's like a long stay anything. I know,

881
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,679
at least when I was pregnant, I was told that.

882
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,639
So I don't want to Your point right now is

883
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:09,559
not about whether pregnant women should take tilandal. Your point

884
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:13,360
is that RFK said that there were really strong, robust

885
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,840
studies correlating thailand Al with autism.

886
00:51:17,159 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: There is no robust study doing that. I don't want

887
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,039
to argue about this, but.

888
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not saying there is. I'm making a

889
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,800
point that I just want to make sure nobody listening

890
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,360
thinks it's safe for pregnant women to take tailan al.

891
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:33,599
It's actually not. And it's something that I was told

892
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,599
when I was pregnant, and thilan Al itself will say so.

893
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,920
Just that's a separate issue than whether it causes autism.

894
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Never ever listen to me about medical

895
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,719
advice or anyone else. Talk to your doctor and all

896
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,719
of that. But the idea that there are a robust

897
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,800
studies showing that thailand all creates autism there are none.

898
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:57,320
There's one Harvard study done by someone hired in a

899
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:03,960
lawsuit against Thailand. All and moreover, high fevers during pregnancy

900
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:08,239
are incredibly dangerous, right, and tyln ol is something the

901
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,440
only taught thing that some pregnant woman can take to

902
00:52:11,559 --> 00:52:13,920
help with hyper I'm just saying it's very commonable.

903
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,679
Speaker 2: That's why I just can everybody like talk to their

904
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:19,679
own doctor if they're pregnant, because it is totally possible

905
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,679
that my doctor was wrong, and I haven't been pregnant

906
00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:24,679
in a long time, so like it could have been

907
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,199
like an old, outdated thing.

908
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:28,639
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor. My My only point is RFK

909
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,320
was more interested in that than stopping an abortion.

910
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:32,639
Speaker 2: That's a very good point, yep.

911
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: So, Molly, another topic, I saw you were mad online

912
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,760
that National Review had a piece on its what is

913
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,599
its seventieth anniversary edition where one of the writers, I

914
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:46,639
think Rachel lu had some negative things to say about

915
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,000
Phylis Shlapley.

916
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: So I will be totally honest that I don't really

917
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:56,840
read National Review anymore in heabit for some time, but

918
00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:02,920
a lot of friends worth sending around excerpts of a

919
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,400
piece that they recently ran in their seventieth anniversary issue.

920
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:11,440
First off, that's kind of crazy, seventy years of a

921
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:16,880
publication and one of them. So there were very few

922
00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:20,840
articles written by women in this issue, which is kind

923
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,679
of a long standing problem for a lot of conservative media.

924
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,039
I think they tend to be Actually, it's almost all

925
00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:32,000
political media tends to be overrepresented by men, which is

926
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,119
not necessarily a problem, but it can sometimes be a

927
00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:37,480
problem that the views and perspectives of the vast majority

928
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,559
of conservative women are not showcased like they should be.

929
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,719
But on their cover they had two women mentioned, along

930
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,920
with a litany of men who were writing for this

931
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:53,920
special issue, and there was a piece about Phyllis Schlaffley

932
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,559
that has a lot of people sad, I would say

933
00:53:56,559 --> 00:54:01,440
sad or angry. Phyllis Schlaffy is one of Conservatism's greatest

934
00:54:01,519 --> 00:54:07,960
activists and really inspired generations of women to defend family

935
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:12,039
and home and conservative values and Christian values in the

936
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:15,440
public square. I know many of them. I am one

937
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,320
of them. She was someone who really set the stage

938
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:27,719
for fighting against that Rockefeller Republican domination of the Republican Party.

939
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,880
She was very influential in the very Goldwater race Choice

940
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,480
not and echo and pretty much single handedly stopped the

941
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:41,119
era from becoming a constitutional amendment, which was just such amazing,

942
00:54:41,159 --> 00:54:45,519
wonderful work. And there's a piece that decries her as

943
00:54:48,519 --> 00:54:53,800
a propagandist who sought her own power, and people who

944
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,800
knew Phylish Laffey or who studied her, they just don't

945
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,559
think that's accurate. She frequently didn't care about who got

946
00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:01,880
credit for the work she did. She did a lot

947
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,360
of like behind the scenes trenches work on the Republican

948
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:11,079
Party platform, organizing women to for political action, and she

949
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,239
was a good figurehead of it, and like you have

950
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,119
to be that, but she wasn't really seeking her own power.

951
00:55:16,159 --> 00:55:20,599
She was seeking preservation of the home and the family unit.

952
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:26,280
And she is loathed and reviled by the left, but

953
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:33,159
you know, very much honored by particularly women on the right,

954
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,119
but all conservative like many conservatives just adore her, and

955
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:40,000
so they were sad to see the way she was

956
00:55:40,039 --> 00:55:43,159
being treated as saying her legacy is just that she

957
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,280
supported Trump at the end, which first off, is not

958
00:55:46,519 --> 00:55:49,679
a huge problem, but there's a line in it that says,

959
00:55:49,679 --> 00:55:54,519
like its longest surviving legacy will not be conservative principal

960
00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:59,719
or intellectual integrity but a power hungry populism. And I

961
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,559
think this is an issue where it's also it's related

962
00:56:03,559 --> 00:56:07,079
to why I wrote the book on Justice Alito. You

963
00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:11,039
see people on the right act like there are two options,

964
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:19,079
power or principle, and they're pitted against each other as

965
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:22,519
if they are necessarily in conflict. And for a lot

966
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:27,679
of conservatives, they want power and they want principle, you

967
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:30,639
know they are They're in the movement for a reason.

968
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,599
They want their ideas enacted, and they want to be

969
00:56:33,639 --> 00:56:37,519
successful in enacting them. And this idea that you can't

970
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:39,679
have both, or that you're just there to like write

971
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,480
essays and host you know, talks on it as opposed

972
00:56:43,519 --> 00:56:47,079
to actually implementing the ideas. Like it's very much an

973
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:50,280
idea that I think people tie to a National Review

974
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,880
style conservatism, but that a lot of people kind of

975
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,159
got fed up with and Phyllis Schlaffley got fed up

976
00:56:55,199 --> 00:56:58,719
with it in the sixties and like did something about it.

977
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,159
And it would just be nice to see her being honored. Sorry,

978
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,239
I said. It's like people associated with National Review people

979
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,559
associate it with like the bad part of National Review.

980
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,199
People also understand that National Review itself was very important

981
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:20,079
in helping Goldwater and advancing a principled conservative movement that

982
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:22,840
by definition had a lot of people attached to it

983
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,400
and was popular. And so I think people are just

984
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,079
kind of sad to see it, particularly in an issue

985
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:29,360
like that.

986
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:37,119
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I what annoys me is that there's

987
00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:41,119
a bigger outrage and I'm not pointing at you, among

988
00:57:41,199 --> 00:57:43,840
most conservatives when they see something like this. Then there

989
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:49,119
is when the biggest conservative voices host nazis on their

990
00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:53,480
show or say the most horrifying things. Then we're told

991
00:57:53,519 --> 00:57:55,639
we have to be quiet. We're all on the same team,

992
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,039
We're never go against anyone on the right. But someone

993
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:01,039
reassesses that Philishafflee was a success, so as people think

994
00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:03,760
and everyone has a meltdown. I just find that part

995
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,039
of it annoying. So that's all I have to say

996
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:09,760
on that. I think the essay is wrong by the way.

997
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,039
I disagree with it. I think that she underestimates chef

998
00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:20,199
Lee's arguments. Rachel Lou basically calls them fascile, I think,

999
00:58:20,239 --> 00:58:22,239
and I don't believe that that's true. I think she

1000
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,039
was writing for a popular audience. It's like, sometimes I

1001
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:27,079
may have deeper thoughts on something. But I'm writing a

1002
00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:31,119
column for an audience that doesn't want to hear intellectualizing,

1003
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:34,880
so I get that. And she was a different person

1004
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,320
at the end of her life than she was at

1005
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,079
the beginning. We have to look at a person's you know,

1006
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:42,039
we have to look at the whole career, not just

1007
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:43,880
where they ended up and stuff like that.

1008
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, I think the article actually unintentionally showed how

1009
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,039
important she was to the very end. I mean, she

1010
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:54,440
was influential. They're endorsing Trump at the end. But I

1011
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:59,480
think why people are expressing sadness here is because we

1012
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:02,599
take it personally because phylish Laughley meant so much to us.

1013
00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:07,840
And I was texting with someone from church who his

1014
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,639
I hope it's okay to say all this, But his

1015
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,679
sister died while campaigning for Chip Roy in Texas and

1016
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:19,840
like in a car accident, and she was a beloved,

1017
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:24,360
obviously beloved member of the family. And he had said

1018
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,119
that Phyllis had a special place in his heart because

1019
00:59:27,159 --> 00:59:32,079
his sister, Rebecca watched her documentary on Hulu by herself

1020
00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:35,639
before going to knockdoors on the campaign where she died,

1021
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,199
and it probably played a significant role in her decision

1022
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,119
to go instead of stay home. And I think that's

1023
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:44,280
true for a lot of us. Sorry for it's like

1024
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,280
so emotional. I'm so sorry, but a lot of us

1025
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,039
don't really want to be doing political activism, but we

1026
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:53,880
know it's important in part because like the men haven't

1027
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,039
stood up and done what they should be doing. And

1028
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:58,280
we care about our country, we care about her families,

1029
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,559
we care about babies, and we care about big women,

1030
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,079
and women like Phylish Slafley should be honored. And I

1031
01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:06,599
do know that the author of the piece is, you know,

1032
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,199
part of a larger battle that's going on right now

1033
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,199
about whether feminism is compatible with conservatism. And many of

1034
01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:16,280
us do not feel that way. We do we are

1035
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,880
not feminists. We think it's a dangerous ideology that cuts

1036
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,599
against like everything about what it means to be a woman.

1037
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,599
And other people are feminist and want to advance a

1038
01:00:26,639 --> 01:00:30,000
feminism that they say is compliant with the Roman Catholic

1039
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:32,840
Church or other things like that, and that's a big

1040
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,400
battle that's going on, and Phylish Slaffley is kind of

1041
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,440
like an avatar there that they fight against, but it's

1042
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,480
part of it's part of like a very real battle

1043
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:44,760
right now, and Carrie Gress has written beautifully about this

1044
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,159
and is a very brave woman who gets attacked like

1045
01:00:47,159 --> 01:00:52,800
Phylish Lafley got attacked by feminists for speaking out against it.

1046
01:00:54,159 --> 01:00:55,559
I don't know, I don't even know why I'm so

1047
01:00:55,639 --> 01:00:59,280
upset about it. I just very much honor Philish Slaffley,

1048
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:02,360
and I want people to recognize her as such a

1049
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,079
great conservative activist who gave a lot to help out

1050
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:08,599
the country, and we need more people with her courage

1051
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,800
and not people who just snipe at her. And it

1052
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,159
would be great if people that you want to be

1053
01:01:14,239 --> 01:01:19,880
on your own team didn't use like opportunities to go

1054
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:26,360
after her and instead continued her advocacy for women in families.

1055
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: Let's talk about culture. That it was a wild episode,

1056
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:40,639
Mollie Kaika quickly mentioned, I finally got around to going

1057
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:45,159
to my state concealed carry course to you know, because

1058
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,920
there's so many Nazis around in America. I feel like

1059
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:52,360
I need to be packing. Yea and the guy. It

1060
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:56,920
was amazing. The class is huge. Now when I say class,

1061
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,000
I mean very easy class. The state where I lived

1062
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,159
does not have very you know, it's not Maryland, it's

1063
01:02:03,159 --> 01:02:05,639
not DC, it's not New York. Or anything like that.

1064
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,159
But you have to ticket class and the class the

1065
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:10,639
teacher was the most conservative person I think that I've

1066
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:13,199
ever run across in my life. This person was preparing

1067
01:02:13,199 --> 01:02:16,679
for war with Antifa. I thought it was the funniest thing,

1068
01:02:16,719 --> 01:02:19,599
but quickly I want to say. The class was packed

1069
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,920
and it had all kinds of Americans, I mean all races,

1070
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:28,679
all ages, from some people in their seventies to people

1071
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,199
maybe you know, early twenties, and it was really heartening

1072
01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:38,599
to see and thinking about getting a Block forty three

1073
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,159
X with an extended mag But if listeners have better

1074
01:02:42,199 --> 01:02:47,519
options for a Carrie concealed carry weapon, they should email

1075
01:02:47,639 --> 01:02:50,519
the show and give me some advice. I only have

1076
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:53,079
one thing I watched. It was called It's a show

1077
01:02:53,119 --> 01:02:58,800
called Foundation, based on Isaac Asimov's book. It has some

1078
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,320
of the ideas of that book. That book is I

1079
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,719
think a classic. I love reading it, but it's structured

1080
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,079
in a way that's almost a history where this takes

1081
01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:10,159
those ideas. At first, it felt like, oh, here we go,

1082
01:03:10,199 --> 01:03:13,440
this is going to be another woke show, but it wasn't,

1083
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:16,960
and it's okay. I would if you like sci fi,

1084
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,280
I would recommend it. It's beautiful to look at, and

1085
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,159
the story has held my attention, and that's all I have.

1086
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 2: I don't have much myself. I have once again spent

1087
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:32,880
much of my week traveling, and yet I did start

1088
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,159
watching a show with Mark that I kind of like.

1089
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,639
It's like a total network TV drama but just made

1090
01:03:40,719 --> 01:03:45,800
a little bit prettier. It's called Hotel Costiera, and it's

1091
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:54,880
about an American former marine who how do you say that?

1092
01:03:55,039 --> 01:04:00,960
Retired marine who is a hotel's private detect. He kind

1093
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,840
of is helping out the hotel owner who's searching for

1094
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,119
his daughter, but also gets involved in other, you know,

1095
01:04:08,159 --> 01:04:09,960
things that are happening at the hotel. So it's like

1096
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:12,639
fantasy island set on the Amalfi Coast.

1097
01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: And it's like episodic or is it like a soap opera,

1098
01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:18,320
an art with an arc or both?

1099
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,119
Speaker 2: I think that each I've only seen two, so each

1100
01:04:23,159 --> 01:04:25,960
one had its own thing happening in it, but also

1101
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:30,559
there's a an arc that goes longer, and the guy

1102
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:33,760
who's in it is very handsome and he has a

1103
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,679
lot of extra marital relations. I would just say like

1104
01:04:37,719 --> 01:04:40,480
it's it reminds me of of Bond movies, you know,

1105
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,679
where you're like, how many women did this man sleep

1106
01:04:42,719 --> 01:04:46,840
with in this one movie? I think in one episode

1107
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,679
there were two women that he had extramarital relations with.

1108
01:04:51,679 --> 01:04:56,000
So that's kind of stupid, but it's okay. And oh

1109
01:04:56,079 --> 01:04:58,719
and I'm continuing to watch Slow Horses.

1110
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,159
Speaker 1: Which is, oh, yeah, I love that show.

1111
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 2: I just love Gary Oldman, continue to love him and

1112
01:05:05,079 --> 01:05:06,559
hate everybody else in that show.

1113
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,679
Speaker 1: I was thinking the other day when I was watching it,

1114
01:05:09,719 --> 01:05:11,679
that why are we spending so much time with these

1115
01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:16,719
other people when Gary Oldman's available? Right, It's not just

1116
01:05:16,719 --> 01:05:19,199
that he's a good actor. That character is just fantastic.

1117
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,840
I should also mention I had mentioned this show earlier,

1118
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,360
but I just want to mention it again. It's called Rome,

1119
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,360
and I had tweeted out that I love the show.

1120
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,199
I think it's just one of the best shows. And

1121
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,880
I think it's twenty year anniversaries this year, So it's

1122
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,360
about you know, it starts with Julius ces are basically

1123
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,760
crossing the Rubicon, and then you know the assessin and

1124
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,639
you know the history into Augustus, Marc, Anthony, Cleopatri all

1125
01:05:44,719 --> 01:05:49,679
that the second season really like accelerates the story all

1126
01:05:49,679 --> 01:05:51,920
of a sudden, and it's just kind of even though

1127
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,800
it held my attention and I liked it, it is

1128
01:05:54,199 --> 01:05:58,000
it was weird, right it would jump ten years or whatever.

1129
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,639
But I later learned people told me a line that

1130
01:06:01,079 --> 01:06:02,599
they knew it was going to be canceled, so they

1131
01:06:02,639 --> 01:06:05,519
had to like wrap five seasons up or four seasons

1132
01:06:05,559 --> 01:06:08,360
in that one season. So that's why it is that way,

1133
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,280
and it makes me made me think how great it

1134
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,199
would have been to have five seasons of that show.

1135
01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:14,199
It's just one of the best shows. And the only

1136
01:06:14,239 --> 01:06:16,480
reason I mentioned it because you mentioned the sexual content

1137
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:19,079
of the show you watch, and this has near pornographic

1138
01:06:19,159 --> 01:06:22,679
sexual content occasionally, which is off putting actually, but otherwise

1139
01:06:22,679 --> 01:06:24,679
the show's I think one of the best HBO has

1140
01:06:24,679 --> 01:06:28,639
ever ever made. So that's all I have. If you

1141
01:06:28,719 --> 01:06:31,239
have better suggestions, you can email us here at radio

1142
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,239
at the Federalist dot com. Get you and we'll see

1143
01:06:34,239 --> 01:06:36,119
you next week. Until then, be lovers of freedom and

1144
01:06:36,239 --> 01:06:37,480
anxious for the Fray.

1145
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 2: Only get you into.

1146
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: To get you on my back times.

1147
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:00,599
Speaker 4: He was funny,