Speaker 1: My Billy Cunningham, the Great America, welcome this great Monday afternoon,
Speaker 1: the price stage and Rudders finally growth. All Hell's not
Speaker 1: breaking loose anymore, at least for a while politically. The
Speaker 1: so called Trump tariffs have been delayed now thirty days.
Speaker 1: Last night, when I was on with you between ten
Speaker 1: pm and one am, it was going to be all
Speaker 1: Hell's going to break loose. How the market was down
Speaker 1: six hundred points, and all of a sudden, good things
Speaker 1: are happening. Plus, you might know the Panama Canal that
Speaker 1: we built with blood and treasure turned over under Jimmy
Speaker 1: Carter back to the natives, is now not going to
Speaker 1: renew their contract with communists Red China. You may know
Speaker 1: if you followed this issue with the Panama Canal, that
Speaker 1: the Panamanium struck a deal with Silk Road, part of
Speaker 1: the Chinese communists to take hundreds of millions of dollars
Speaker 1: to improve parts of the canal and give the management
Speaker 1: of that canal to communists Red China. They are reaching
Speaker 1: across the world to hurt us every which way they can,
Speaker 1: including TikTok and including hot air balloons flying over the country,
Speaker 1: including buying hundreds of acres around US military bases, and
Speaker 1: then they're going to envelop us in Peru. They're spending
Speaker 1: one point five billion dollars for report in South America.
Speaker 1: I thought the Monroe doctrine doesn't apply anymore, but until then,
Speaker 1: the market is stabilized largely. Joining you and I now
Speaker 1: is the man in charge of the finances of the
Speaker 1: state of Ohio, Keith Faber, who's the state auditor, and
Speaker 1: he's running for the attorney general's position held by Mike
Speaker 1: DeWine for eight years and David Yost for eight years.
Speaker 1: And once again, Keith Faber, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And Keith, what was your announcement a few days ago
Speaker 1: about the attorney general's position? Then we got to get
Speaker 1: into immigration, the market and so much more.
Speaker 2: Well, I've announced that I'm going to run for attorney general.
Speaker 2: It's you know, state auditor. We have a criminal division.
Speaker 2: I've convicted one hundred and thirty individuals for alighting, stealing,
Speaker 2: and cheating with government money. The Attorney General's office is
Speaker 2: just a bigger stage and we're looking forward to the
Speaker 2: race and to serve O Highlands.
Speaker 1: Great Now, a couple issues you may confront you have
Speaker 1: already confronted. I got a text from one of your
Speaker 1: assistants who said that certain local governments are not complying
Speaker 1: with state laws and regulations and auditing explaining to the
Speaker 1: American people what you found of anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the most recent one was we'd have issued finings
Speaker 2: for recovery, which essentially act like a judgment against these
Speaker 2: elected officials for them not doing their jobs and incurring
Speaker 2: late fees and penalties. You've got local elected officials and
Speaker 2: finance officers who are laid on things like paying your
Speaker 2: federal taxes and withholding and paying late credit card bills,
Speaker 2: just not doing their job and paying their bills on time.
Speaker 2: You know. It just amazes me that people have decided
Speaker 2: that they think it's okay that they can waste government
Speaker 2: money that way. No question.
Speaker 1: And a couple issues of parcolating I had on David
Speaker 1: Yo's last week, had on Senator Bernie Marino. There's an
Speaker 1: issue parcolating that you likely will confront when you're the
Speaker 1: new attorney general next year in Ohio, and that is
Speaker 1: that the sanctuary cities and sanctuary counties was about six
Speaker 1: or seven in the state of Ohio. That indicated they
Speaker 1: will not enforced federal law and we don't have it presently.
Speaker 1: A US attorney in the Southern District. I think one's
Speaker 1: coming in the next month or so, but what is
Speaker 1: your view on the City of Cincinnati and the mayor
Speaker 1: have to have Puri Ball and others saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: federal law doesn't necessarily apply here. We're not going to obstruct,
Speaker 1: but we're not going to cooperate. And so as a consequence,
Speaker 1: Chief of Police Fiji had a little bit of a
Speaker 1: news conference saying, look, we're not in the immigration roundup business.
Speaker 1: We're in the business of controlling local rules and regulations.
Speaker 1: We're not going to do that. And then you had
Speaker 1: Ken Kober you might know about a week ago, who's
Speaker 1: the head of the police union one thousand men and
Speaker 1: women strong CPD that said, you know what, I took
Speaker 1: an oath of office to support and defend the Constitution
Speaker 1: of Ohio and the Constitution of the United States of America.
Speaker 1: And that constitution says that federal law in many areas
Speaker 1: trump local law, but locally there's no immigration law at all.
Speaker 1: So it's a federal law and that local officials have
Speaker 1: got to regulate and he pointed out there as many
Speaker 1: times as a cop when we call upon the Marshall Service,
Speaker 1: the FBI, Homeland Security, whatever to back up what we're
Speaker 1: doing or to give us information, in other words, what
Speaker 1: we cooperate with the federal authorities all the time, and
Speaker 1: vice versa. Every now and then, there might be an
Speaker 1: ice arrest of some rapists or murderer in Hamleton County
Speaker 1: that's got to be conducted, and it would be helpful
Speaker 1: if CPD would be there to back up, provide a
Speaker 1: little bit of security. And under the present rules and regulations,
Speaker 1: guess what the mayor is telling the city manager share along,
Speaker 1: telling the police chief, we're not going to cooperate, we're
Speaker 1: not going to help. Isn't that a recipe for disaster.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely a recipe for disaster. And as usual, you
Speaker 2: and the FOP have it right. I don't know why
Speaker 2: the mayor would side with the illegal thugs and rapists
Speaker 2: instead of Cincinnatians and citizens. I don't know why he
Speaker 2: would take that position other than to placate his progressive
Speaker 2: liberal base and friends. The fact of the matter is
Speaker 2: is that you want law enforcement cooperating together at every turn.
Speaker 2: You want the local police officers backing FBFBI, the INS
Speaker 2: and the other people who are out there, Department of
Speaker 2: Homeland Security investigations, all of those folks, you want them
Speaker 2: partnering together. And when you're executing a immigration rate, it
Speaker 2: is good to have local people backing you up because
Speaker 2: they're going to know the local lay of the land
Speaker 2: better than some of these folks that are coming in
Speaker 2: to do it. And we certainly don't want any officers hurt.
Speaker 2: And to the extent that this political agenda by the
Speaker 2: left and these left leaning mayors is going to get
Speaker 2: officers hurt, I think they ought to be ashamed of themselves.
Speaker 1: There's a big Powell, the Vice mayor lemon Coarrn. He's
Speaker 1: called a big Powwow on Tuesday tomorrow at twelve thirty
Speaker 1: in which she's asking those affected bodies odd policies of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump to come forward and numerous immigration rights groups
Speaker 1: are going to be there to complain about what. So far,
Speaker 1: to my knowledge, there were some police right. There were
Speaker 1: some ice raids in Boone County and some in Butler County,
Speaker 1: But to my knowledge, there's few, if any in Hambliny
Speaker 1: County that has not been affected. But I noticed in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and many major American cities over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Hundreds of people poured onto interstate highways and stopped at
Speaker 1: Santa Monica Boulevard. They poured into interstate highways in and
Speaker 1: around Chicago, shutting it down, and the marching and protesting
Speaker 1: the fact that federal law has got to apply. And
Speaker 1: I look at this, Keith Faber, and I say to myself,
Speaker 1: many many decades ago, probably before you were born, in
Speaker 1: the fifties and sixties, there were many Democrats in the
Speaker 1: South who refused to enforce federal law when it came
Speaker 1: to public education. You may remember George Wallace and Orabell
Speaker 1: Fobbas and other student the doors and they said, guess
Speaker 1: what this is Alabama. We're Democrats, We're in Alabama, and
Speaker 1: guess what. We will not let black kids enter these doorways.
Speaker 1: It took Eisenhower and Kennedy to call out the army
Speaker 1: to escort those black kids past Democrats jeering at him.
Speaker 1: And here we are half a century later, and once
Speaker 1: again the Democrats, now with a different stripe, say they're
Speaker 1: not going to enforce federal law. What's your view on
Speaker 1: that one?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to say there's a reason that a
Speaker 2: large percentage, a greater percentage than ever before, of the
Speaker 2: Hispanic vote and legal immigrant vote went for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: It's because, candidly, I think people are tired of our
Speaker 2: open borders policy. That's increased fit and al it's increased
Speaker 2: human trafficking, It's led to all of these problems. And
Speaker 2: Donald Trump got elected to fix it, and he is
Speaker 2: in the process of fixing it. He will get it fixed.
Speaker 2: The problem is going to be all of the roadblocks
Speaker 2: that the Democrats want to start throwing up against them,
Speaker 2: and candidly, we just need to hold them responsible when
Speaker 2: they do that. We should not be an open borders
Speaker 2: country on the ability for government to serve law abiding
Speaker 2: American citizens and legal aliens. Look, I've said this before, Bill,
Speaker 2: Americans believe in immigration. We do. We just want it
Speaker 2: to be legal. We just want to know who's coming
Speaker 2: into our country. We do not want terrorists, we do
Speaker 2: not want criminal thuds, we do not want people who
Speaker 2: are going to traffic children in our country. And we
Speaker 2: have a right, and I would say the obligation to
Speaker 2: make sure we're keeping our community safe by knowing who
Speaker 2: comes into our country. And that's the Donald Trump agenda.
Speaker 1: You know this morning, Monday morning, I watched MSNBC, so
Speaker 1: you don't have to. And they had numerous individuals on
Speaker 1: who now find themselves in Nicaragua. In other words, they
Speaker 1: were picked up and they were deported because they were
Speaker 1: here illegally. And this is sad human situation where a
Speaker 1: mother or a father, they had a mother and one
Speaker 1: of each own in Nicaragua, saying that they were picked
Speaker 1: up in Chicago there was someone living in their household
Speaker 1: that had future of warrens for human trafficking, and just
Speaker 1: while they were there ancillarily, they asked another person, do
Speaker 1: you give your ID with you? And none could be
Speaker 1: presented short investigation. That person is here illegally also, and
Speaker 1: so the point of the liberal media is to say,
Speaker 1: and it's not fair to have a mother, a father,
Speaker 1: a grandfather, a grandmother who's here illegally and then to
Speaker 1: be shipped back to their home country. And many of
Speaker 1: these individuals, there's one point four million deportations that have
Speaker 1: not taken place because those individuals went through the entire
Speaker 1: immigration process, they had an order from a federal judge
Speaker 1: to leave the country, failed to do so, and now
Speaker 1: each of them said, I gotta go back to Chicago.
Speaker 1: So I have no sympathy for that, because they voluntarily
Speaker 1: put themselves in that position. And even if you're a
Speaker 1: mother with kids to ported, you have the opportunity to
Speaker 1: take your kids with you back to where they came from.
Speaker 1: But what's you're feeling about the liberal media about to
Speaker 1: tell the Keith Fabers of this world that you're being unfair.
Speaker 2: Well, the reality is is the liberal media is going
Speaker 2: to continue to manipulate the narrative to meet their political ends.
Speaker 2: And we've known that, We've seen that, and that's the
Speaker 2: reason Donald Trump won. Americans have wised up to that story.
Speaker 2: But the real story here, Bill, and part of it
Speaker 2: is the simple question, are we a nation of laws?
Speaker 2: And if you were here illegally and you're harboring somebody
Speaker 2: who is a hicro ardoran gag member, boy, you know
Speaker 2: what you're getting into, you know what you're doing, you
Speaker 2: probably are at least able to see that. And the
Speaker 2: other side of it is and I think the mortars are.
Speaker 2: Tom Holman made this very clear. If you're illegally here,
Speaker 2: go home, self, deport and you won't have to be arrested.
Speaker 2: And the bottom line is get in line and come
Speaker 2: back legally. Look, I think I mentioned to you. I
Speaker 2: went down with a group of sheriffs and prosecutors to
Speaker 2: the border about a year ago, and what we saw
Speaker 2: was very interesting. Went to the Arizona portion of the border,
Speaker 2: and the people coming across there weren't the give ups
Speaker 2: that you saw an Eagle pass. There were the people
Speaker 2: who didn't want to get caught. They're trafficking and fitanol,
Speaker 2: they're coming to human trafficking, or they might be Mexican
Speaker 2: citizens who weren't eligible for asylum. Some of them, I'm
Speaker 2: sure are just coming across for a better life, but
Speaker 2: you know what, there are ways to do that if
Speaker 2: you want to be legal. There are also a lot
Speaker 2: of them that we don't know why they're coming across,
Speaker 2: and in that capacity. It may be because they're game members,
Speaker 2: it may be because they're trafficking fit and all. It
Speaker 2: may be because they're terrorists. But in the end, having
Speaker 2: an open border means bad things for the country, and
Speaker 2: it's time for us to close it. It's time for
Speaker 2: us to send the people who came here illegally back.
Speaker 2: They knew what they were doing. Biden had a policy
Speaker 2: to encourage it. It was wrong. It's time for us
Speaker 2: to fix that, and then we can get back to
Speaker 2: some kind of a semblance of talking about how we
Speaker 2: can encourage legal immigration. But right now, you can't do
Speaker 2: that until the borders closed and until the bad actors
Speaker 2: are removed.
Speaker 1: Keith Faber, State Auditor. Next year, the Attorney General of Ohio.
Speaker 1: Another ancillary issue, The Columbus Dispatch points out that there's
Speaker 1: thousands of individuals hired in the major colleges universities in
Speaker 1: Ohio along I'll leave the corporate world to decide for
Speaker 1: the moment, because that's not public money. But public money
Speaker 1: that goes to the University of Cincinnati may disavior to
Speaker 1: date and other private schools, or Wright State Public Ohio
Speaker 1: State University of Toledo, where I got my law degree,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Received literally hundreds of
Speaker 1: millions of dollars every year from the federal government. And
Speaker 1: they have large DEI departments, And they don't masquerade themselves
Speaker 1: as I'm the director of DEI and I want to
Speaker 1: discriminate based on race. That's not the way they're advertised.
Speaker 1: They come up with new monikers as to what they do.
Speaker 1: They might call it inclusion. It sounds good on paper.
Speaker 1: Now Donald Trump is saying, I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: Trumpster is going to do this. He's going to cut
Speaker 1: off federal financial aid to any college or university in America,
Speaker 1: including Ohio.
Speaker 2: Thank god.
Speaker 1: That says to a college president and to a board,
Speaker 1: you cannot discriminate based upon race anymore. That DEI is done.
Speaker 1: There's hundreds. I saw the number three hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: three at Ohio State University, to the tune of a
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars payroll hired to administer race discrimination. And
Speaker 1: where do you stand on that issue? Because that issue
Speaker 1: is going to be big in the next few months.
Speaker 2: It will be big in the next few months, in
Speaker 2: the next few years. The tentacles of DEI are vast
Speaker 2: and widespread across most of our governmental institutions. I think
Speaker 2: that there's a bill currently in the legislature that I'll
Speaker 2: try and get you the name of Jerry Sarno's the
Speaker 2: senator who's sponsoring it. You want to try and get
Speaker 2: him on your program. He can talk with great knowledge
Speaker 2: about this bill and it will cut out DEI programs,
Speaker 2: ban them in the state of Ohio at all of
Speaker 2: our colleges and universities, by statute, DEI is discrimination. And
Speaker 2: let's just stop. Back up. The equal protection and the
Speaker 2: other due process rights, and the state constitution and the
Speaker 2: Federal Constitution basically prohibit you favoring one person basis on race, creed,
Speaker 2: and a bunch of other protected classes. I don't know
Speaker 2: why we've ever thought it was a good idea to say, hey,
Speaker 2: we're going to discriminate in favor of still in the
Speaker 2: blank because we think that they were discriminated against in
Speaker 2: the past. It doesn't help the current students to be
Speaker 2: discriminated against because somebody and their past may have discriminated
Speaker 2: against somebody else. This is the problem with DEI. If
Speaker 2: you want to promote a social agenda, promote your social agenda,
Speaker 2: do it transparently in the political spectrum. Don't try and
Speaker 2: institutionalize it in the annals and government and the halls
Speaker 2: of education. That's the problem with DEI. DEI is discrimination,
Speaker 2: and that's just the facts.
Speaker 1: Well, if that becomes real in the next ninety days,
Speaker 1: which I think it will, as the state auditor currently,
Speaker 1: do you have an obligation to may I say enforced
Speaker 1: parts of federal law. If there's a federal law that says, okay,
Speaker 1: Ohio State or University of Cincinnati, you get these amounts
Speaker 1: of money, and we will what will you do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will absolutely do that. As state auditor, we
Speaker 2: do the single audit of all the colleges and the universities,
Speaker 2: and we have to audit according to the federal rules,
Speaker 2: guidelines and law, and we will audit Ohio State and
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and the others to see if they're complying with
Speaker 2: the federal law. And if they are, we will certify
Speaker 2: that they're non compliant and that will cost them largely
Speaker 2: their federal funding. If that's the rules, we will go
Speaker 2: out and take a look at that, because that's what
Speaker 2: we do in the auditor's office. I always says auditor,
Speaker 2: I don't make the rules. I just check to see
Speaker 2: whether you're following the rules, and the legislature and the
Speaker 2: or government to people who make those rules are the
Speaker 2: ones that we seek to make sure people are complying with.
Speaker 1: And lastly, about a minute remaining. You know, I had
Speaker 1: on the Attorney General, David Yo's last week and he
Speaker 1: sent an email and letters to COSTCO telling them that
Speaker 1: they're practicing race discrimination ban while the Ohio and US constitution,
Speaker 1: and he wants to pursue that if you're have the
Speaker 1: honor of being the attorney general. In addition to public
Speaker 1: entities that discriminate based upon race, I don't want race
Speaker 1: to be a benefit or a cost to anybody. Know
Speaker 1: the kind of sex I might enjoy to be a
Speaker 1: benefit or a cost that's irrelevant. Would you actively, as
Speaker 1: the attorney general go after private businesses, large ones that
Speaker 1: practices race discrimination?
Speaker 2: The Missouri Attorney General made a really good example of
Speaker 2: a bunch of businesses using Missouri's anti discrimination statute similarly,
Speaker 2: and those cases can be successful. If you're discriminating in
Speaker 2: favor or against any protected class, you ought to fully
Speaker 2: anticipate that Keith Favor as Attorney General, is going to
Speaker 2: use the full force of the law to make sure
Speaker 2: that the law is followed and enforced. I think it's
Speaker 2: a good excuse to say that we're discriminating in favor
Speaker 2: of the favored political class of the day. I don't
Speaker 2: think that's what the law and constitution requires. I think
Speaker 2: the bottom line is discriminations bad, and it shouldn't be
Speaker 2: allowed under any cover. And Deeton the eye doesn't make
Speaker 2: it any better.
Speaker 1: Well, the Democrats played games during slavery and the lynchings
Speaker 1: of blocks. Those are all Democrats. They played games in
Speaker 1: the nineteen forties and fifties and sixties saying black kids
Speaker 1: can't be educated in public schools. Now fifty years later
Speaker 1: they're playing games again, changing the object of the discrimination.
Speaker 1: But once again, Keith Favor, thanks for coming on this
Speaker 1: Monday afternoon. Good luck next year with the AG's race,
Speaker 1: and may God bless you and God bless America. Keith,
Speaker 1: thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Thanks Bill.
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