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<v Speaker 1>My Billy Cunningham, the Great America, welcome this great Monday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>the price stage and Rudders finally growth. All Hell's not

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<v Speaker 1>breaking loose anymore, at least for a while politically. The

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<v Speaker 1>so called Trump tariffs have been delayed now thirty days.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night, when I was on with you between ten

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<v Speaker 1>pm and one am, it was going to be all

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<v Speaker 1>Hell's going to break loose. How the market was down

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred points, and all of a sudden, good things

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<v Speaker 1>are happening. Plus, you might know the Panama Canal that

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<v Speaker 1>we built with blood and treasure turned over under Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Carter back to the natives, is now not going to

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<v Speaker 1>renew their contract with communists Red China. You may know

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<v Speaker 1>if you followed this issue with the Panama Canal, that

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<v Speaker 1>the Panamanium struck a deal with Silk Road, part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese communists to take hundreds of millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to improve parts of the canal and give the management

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<v Speaker 1>of that canal to communists Red China. They are reaching

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<v Speaker 1>across the world to hurt us every which way they can,

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<v Speaker 1>including TikTok and including hot air balloons flying over the country,

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<v Speaker 1>including buying hundreds of acres around US military bases, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they're going to envelop us in Peru. They're spending

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<v Speaker 1>one point five billion dollars for report in South America.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the Monroe doctrine doesn't apply anymore, but until then,

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<v Speaker 1>the market is stabilized largely. Joining you and I now

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<v Speaker 1>is the man in charge of the finances of the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Ohio, Keith Faber, who's the state auditor, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's running for the attorney general's position held by Mike

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<v Speaker 1>DeWine for eight years and David Yost for eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>And once again, Keith Faber, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>And Keith, what was your announcement a few days ago

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<v Speaker 1>about the attorney general's position? Then we got to get

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<v Speaker 1>into immigration, the market and so much more.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've announced that I'm going to run for attorney general.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you know, state auditor. We have a criminal division.

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<v Speaker 2>I've convicted one hundred and thirty individuals for alighting, stealing,

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<v Speaker 2>and cheating with government money. The Attorney General's office is

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<v Speaker 2>just a bigger stage and we're looking forward to the

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<v Speaker 2>race and to serve O Highlands.

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<v Speaker 1>Great Now, a couple issues you may confront you have

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<v Speaker 1>already confronted. I got a text from one of your

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<v Speaker 1>assistants who said that certain local governments are not complying

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<v Speaker 1>with state laws and regulations and auditing explaining to the

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<v Speaker 1>American people what you found of anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the most recent one was we'd have issued finings

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<v Speaker 2>for recovery, which essentially act like a judgment against these

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<v Speaker 2>elected officials for them not doing their jobs and incurring

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<v Speaker 2>late fees and penalties. You've got local elected officials and

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<v Speaker 2>finance officers who are laid on things like paying your

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<v Speaker 2>federal taxes and withholding and paying late credit card bills,

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<v Speaker 2>just not doing their job and paying their bills on time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It just amazes me that people have decided

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<v Speaker 2>that they think it's okay that they can waste government

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<v Speaker 2>money that way. No question.

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<v Speaker 1>And a couple issues of parcolating I had on David

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<v Speaker 1>Yo's last week, had on Senator Bernie Marino. There's an

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<v Speaker 1>issue parcolating that you likely will confront when you're the

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<v Speaker 1>new attorney general next year in Ohio, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>that the sanctuary cities and sanctuary counties was about six

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<v Speaker 1>or seven in the state of Ohio. That indicated they

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<v Speaker 1>will not enforced federal law and we don't have it presently.

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<v Speaker 1>A US attorney in the Southern District. I think one's

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<v Speaker 1>coming in the next month or so, but what is

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<v Speaker 1>your view on the City of Cincinnati and the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>have to have Puri Ball and others saying, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>federal law doesn't necessarily apply here. We're not going to obstruct,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not going to cooperate. And so as a consequence,

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<v Speaker 1>Chief of Police Fiji had a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>news conference saying, look, we're not in the immigration roundup business.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in the business of controlling local rules and regulations.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to do that. And then you had

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Kober you might know about a week ago, who's

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<v Speaker 1>the head of the police union one thousand men and

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<v Speaker 1>women strong CPD that said, you know what, I took

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<v Speaker 1>an oath of office to support and defend the Constitution

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<v Speaker 1>of Ohio and the Constitution of the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 1>And that constitution says that federal law in many areas

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<v Speaker 1>trump local law, but locally there's no immigration law at all.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a federal law and that local officials have

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<v Speaker 1>got to regulate and he pointed out there as many

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<v Speaker 1>times as a cop when we call upon the Marshall Service,

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI, Homeland Security, whatever to back up what we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing or to give us information, in other words, what

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<v Speaker 1>we cooperate with the federal authorities all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>vice versa. Every now and then, there might be an

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<v Speaker 1>ice arrest of some rapists or murderer in Hamleton County

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<v Speaker 1>that's got to be conducted, and it would be helpful

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<v Speaker 1>if CPD would be there to back up, provide a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of security. And under the present rules and regulations,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what the mayor is telling the city manager share along,

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<v Speaker 1>telling the police chief, we're not going to cooperate, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to help. Isn't that a recipe for disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>It's absolutely a recipe for disaster. And as usual, you

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<v Speaker 2>and the FOP have it right. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>the mayor would side with the illegal thugs and rapists

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<v Speaker 2>instead of Cincinnatians and citizens. I don't know why he

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<v Speaker 2>would take that position other than to placate his progressive

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<v Speaker 2>liberal base and friends. The fact of the matter is

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<v Speaker 2>is that you want law enforcement cooperating together at every turn.

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<v Speaker 2>You want the local police officers backing FBFBI, the INS

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<v Speaker 2>and the other people who are out there, Department of

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<v Speaker 2>Homeland Security investigations, all of those folks, you want them

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<v Speaker 2>partnering together. And when you're executing a immigration rate, it

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<v Speaker 2>is good to have local people backing you up because

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to know the local lay of the land

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<v Speaker 2>better than some of these folks that are coming in

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. And we certainly don't want any officers hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>And to the extent that this political agenda by the

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<v Speaker 2>left and these left leaning mayors is going to get

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<v Speaker 2>officers hurt, I think they ought to be ashamed of themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a big Powell, the Vice mayor lemon Coarrn. He's

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<v Speaker 1>called a big Powwow on Tuesday tomorrow at twelve thirty

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<v Speaker 1>in which she's asking those affected bodies odd policies of

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump to come forward and numerous immigration rights groups

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be there to complain about what. So far,

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<v Speaker 1>to my knowledge, there were some police right. There were

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<v Speaker 1>some ice raids in Boone County and some in Butler County,

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<v Speaker 1>But to my knowledge, there's few, if any in Hambliny

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<v Speaker 1>County that has not been affected. But I noticed in

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<v Speaker 1>Hundreds of people poured onto interstate highways and stopped at

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<v Speaker 1>around Chicago, shutting it down, and the marching and protesting

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that federal law has got to apply. And

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<v Speaker 1>I look at this, Keith Faber, and I say to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>many many decades ago, probably before you were born, in

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<v Speaker 1>South who refused to enforce federal law when it came

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<v Speaker 1>to public education. You may remember George Wallace and Orabell

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<v Speaker 1>Fobbas and other student the doors and they said, guess

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<v Speaker 1>what this is Alabama. We're Democrats, We're in Alabama, and

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<v Speaker 1>guess what. We will not let black kids enter these doorways.

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<v Speaker 1>It took Eisenhower and Kennedy to call out the army

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<v Speaker 1>to escort those black kids past Democrats jeering at him.

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<v Speaker 1>And here we are half a century later, and once

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<v Speaker 1>again the Democrats, now with a different stripe, say they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to enforce federal law. What's your view on

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<v Speaker 1>that one?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm going to say there's a reason that a

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<v Speaker 2>large percentage, a greater percentage than ever before, of the

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<v Speaker 2>Hispanic vote and legal immigrant vote went for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because, candidly, I think people are tired of our

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<v Speaker 2>open borders policy. That's increased fit and al it's increased

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<v Speaker 2>human trafficking, It's led to all of these problems. And

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump got elected to fix it, and he is

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<v Speaker 2>in the process of fixing it. He will get it fixed.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is going to be all of the roadblocks

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<v Speaker 2>that the Democrats want to start throwing up against them,

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<v Speaker 2>and candidly, we just need to hold them responsible when

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<v Speaker 2>they do that. We should not be an open borders

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<v Speaker 2>country on the ability for government to serve law abiding

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<v Speaker 2>American citizens and legal aliens. Look, I've said this before, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>Americans believe in immigration. We do. We just want it

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<v Speaker 2>to be legal. We just want to know who's coming

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<v Speaker 2>into our country. We do not want terrorists, we do

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<v Speaker 2>not want criminal thuds, we do not want people who

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<v Speaker 2>are going to traffic children in our country. And we

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<v Speaker 2>have a right, and I would say the obligation to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure we're keeping our community safe by knowing who

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<v Speaker 2>comes into our country. And that's the Donald Trump agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this morning, Monday morning, I watched MSNBC, so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to. And they had numerous individuals on

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<v Speaker 1>who now find themselves in Nicaragua. In other words, they

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<v Speaker 1>were picked up and they were deported because they were

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<v Speaker 1>here illegally. And this is sad human situation where a

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<v Speaker 1>mother or a father, they had a mother and one

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<v Speaker 1>of each own in Nicaragua, saying that they were picked

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<v Speaker 1>up in Chicago there was someone living in their household

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<v Speaker 1>that had future of warrens for human trafficking, and just

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<v Speaker 1>while they were there ancillarily, they asked another person, do

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<v Speaker 1>you give your ID with you? And none could be

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<v Speaker 1>presented short investigation. That person is here illegally also, and

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<v Speaker 1>so the point of the liberal media is to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not fair to have a mother, a father,

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<v Speaker 1>a grandfather, a grandmother who's here illegally and then to

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<v Speaker 1>be shipped back to their home country. And many of

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<v Speaker 1>these individuals, there's one point four million deportations that have

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<v Speaker 1>not taken place because those individuals went through the entire

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<v Speaker 1>immigration process, they had an order from a federal judge

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<v Speaker 1>to leave the country, failed to do so, and now

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<v Speaker 1>each of them said, I gotta go back to Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have no sympathy for that, because they voluntarily

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<v Speaker 1>put themselves in that position. And even if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>mother with kids to ported, you have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>take your kids with you back to where they came from.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's you're feeling about the liberal media about to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the Keith Fabers of this world that you're being unfair.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the reality is is the liberal media is going

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to manipulate the narrative to meet their political ends.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've known that, We've seen that, and that's the

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<v Speaker 2>reason Donald Trump won. Americans have wised up to that story.

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<v Speaker 2>But the real story here, Bill, and part of it

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<v Speaker 2>is the simple question, are we a nation of laws?

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<v Speaker 2>And if you were here illegally and you're harboring somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who is a hicro ardoran gag member, boy, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what you're getting into, you know what you're doing, you

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<v Speaker 2>probably are at least able to see that. And the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of it is and I think the mortars are.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Holman made this very clear. If you're illegally here,

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<v Speaker 2>go home, self, deport and you won't have to be arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>And the bottom line is get in line and come

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<v Speaker 2>back legally. Look, I think I mentioned to you. I

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<v Speaker 2>the border about a year ago, and what we saw

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<v Speaker 2>was very interesting. Went to the Arizona portion of the border,

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<v Speaker 2>and the people coming across there weren't the give ups

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<v Speaker 2>that you saw an Eagle pass. There were the people

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<v Speaker 2>who didn't want to get caught. They're trafficking and fitanol,

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<v Speaker 2>they're coming to human trafficking, or they might be Mexican

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<v Speaker 2>citizens who weren't eligible for asylum. Some of them, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure are just coming across for a better life, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, there are ways to do that if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to be legal. There are also a lot

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<v Speaker 2>and in that capacity. It may be because they're game members,

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<v Speaker 2>it may be because they're trafficking fit and all. It

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<v Speaker 2>may be because they're terrorists. But in the end, having

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<v Speaker 2>it's time for us to close it. It's time for

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<v Speaker 2>us to send the people who came here illegally back.

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<v Speaker 2>They knew what they were doing. Biden had a policy

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<v Speaker 2>to encourage it. It was wrong. It's time for us

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<v Speaker 2>to fix that, and then we can get back to

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of a semblance of talking about how we

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<v Speaker 2>can encourage legal immigration. But right now, you can't do

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Faber, State Auditor. Next year, the Attorney General of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>Another ancillary issue, The Columbus Dispatch points out that there's

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of individuals hired in the major colleges universities in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, because that's not public money. But public money

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<v Speaker 1>that goes to the University of Cincinnati may disavior to

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<v Speaker 1>date and other private schools, or Wright State Public Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State University of Toledo, where I got my law degree,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Received literally hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars every year from the federal government. And

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<v Speaker 1>they have large DEI departments, And they don't masquerade themselves

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm the director of DEI and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>discriminate based on race. That's not the way they're advertised.

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<v Speaker 1>They come up with new monikers as to what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>They might call it inclusion. It sounds good on paper.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Donald Trump is saying, I mean, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Trumpster is going to do this. He's going to cut

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<v Speaker 1>off federal financial aid to any college or university in America,

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<v Speaker 1>including Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>That says to a college president and to a board,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot discriminate based upon race anymore. That DEI is done.

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<v Speaker 1>There's hundreds. I saw the number three hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three at Ohio State University, to the tune of a

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen million dollars payroll hired to administer race discrimination. And

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<v Speaker 1>where do you stand on that issue? Because that issue

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<v Speaker 2>It will be big in the next few months, in

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<v Speaker 2>the next few years. The tentacles of DEI are vast

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<v Speaker 2>and widespread across most of our governmental institutions. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a bill currently in the legislature that I'll

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<v Speaker 2>try and get you the name of Jerry Sarno's the

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<v Speaker 2>senator who's sponsoring it. You want to try and get

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<v Speaker 2>him on your program. He can talk with great knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>about this bill and it will cut out DEI programs,

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<v Speaker 2>ban them in the state of Ohio at all of

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<v Speaker 2>our colleges and universities, by statute, DEI is discrimination. And

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<v Speaker 2>let's just stop. Back up. The equal protection and the

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<v Speaker 2>other due process rights, and the state constitution and the

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<v Speaker 2>Federal Constitution basically prohibit you favoring one person basis on race, creed,

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<v Speaker 2>and a bunch of other protected classes. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why we've ever thought it was a good idea to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to discriminate in favor of still in the

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<v Speaker 2>blank because we think that they were discriminated against in

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<v Speaker 2>the past. It doesn't help the current students to be

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<v Speaker 2>discriminated against because somebody and their past may have discriminated

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<v Speaker 2>against somebody else. This is the problem with DEI. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to promote a social agenda, promote your social agenda,

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<v Speaker 2>do it transparently in the political spectrum. Don't try and

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<v Speaker 2>institutionalize it in the annals and government and the halls

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<v Speaker 2>of education. That's the problem with DEI. DEI is discrimination,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's just the facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if that becomes real in the next ninety days,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think it will, as the state auditor currently,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have an obligation to may I say enforced

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<v Speaker 1>parts of federal law. If there's a federal law that says, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State or University of Cincinnati, you get these amounts

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<v Speaker 1>of money, and we will what will you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we will absolutely do that. As state auditor, we

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<v Speaker 2>do the single audit of all the colleges and the universities,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have to audit according to the federal rules,

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<v Speaker 2>guidelines and law, and we will audit Ohio State and

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati and the others to see if they're complying with

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<v Speaker 2>the federal law. And if they are, we will certify

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<v Speaker 2>that they're non compliant and that will cost them largely

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<v Speaker 2>their federal funding. If that's the rules, we will go

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<v Speaker 2>out and take a look at that, because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>we do in the auditor's office. I always says auditor,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't make the rules. I just check to see

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<v Speaker 2>whether you're following the rules, and the legislature and the

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<v Speaker 1>And lastly, about a minute remaining. You know, I had

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<v Speaker 1>on the Attorney General, David Yo's last week and he

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<v Speaker 1>sent an email and letters to COSTCO telling them that

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<v Speaker 1>they're practicing race discrimination ban while the Ohio and US constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants to pursue that if you're have the

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<v Speaker 1>honor of being the attorney general. In addition to public

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<v Speaker 1>entities that discriminate based upon race, I don't want race

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<v Speaker 1>to be a benefit or a cost to anybody. Know

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of sex I might enjoy to be a

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<v Speaker 1>benefit or a cost that's irrelevant. Would you actively, as

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<v Speaker 1>the attorney general go after private businesses, large ones that

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<v Speaker 1>practices race discrimination?

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<v Speaker 2>The Missouri Attorney General made a really good example of

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of businesses using Missouri's anti discrimination statute similarly,

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<v Speaker 2>and those cases can be successful. If you're discriminating in

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<v Speaker 2>favor or against any protected class, you ought to fully

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<v Speaker 2>anticipate that Keith Favor as Attorney General, is going to

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<v Speaker 2>use the full force of the law to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that the law is followed and enforced. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a good excuse to say that we're discriminating in favor

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<v Speaker 2>of the favored political class of the day. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's what the law and constitution requires. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom line is discriminations bad, and it shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>allowed under any cover. And Deeton the eye doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the Democrats played games during slavery and the lynchings

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<v Speaker 1>of blocks. Those are all Democrats. They played games in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen forties and fifties and sixties saying black kids

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<v Speaker 1>can't be educated in public schools. Now fifty years later

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing games again, changing the object of the discrimination.

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<v Speaker 1>But once again, Keith Favor, thanks for coming on this

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<v Speaker 1>Monday afternoon. Good luck next year with the AG's race,

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<v Speaker 1>and may God bless you and God bless America. Keith,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Bill.

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