Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome to everybody's favorite audio distraction ASTP,
Speaker 1: A Strange Thing podcast where cold drinks and strange conversations
Speaker 1: are the best combination. As always, we're coming to you
Speaker 1: hot and fast from the ASTP Stranger Zone, and I
Speaker 1: am your host, Austin.
Speaker 2: If you go all the way.
Speaker 1: Around the room, is the man, the myth, the legend himself,
Speaker 1: the Odin to my thor Mike?
Speaker 2: Mike, how you doing? What's what's going on? Man? Bringing
Speaker 2: the energy you are? We've been talking about how we
Speaker 2: need to start having fun again, so I became chat studley.
Speaker 2: You kind of caught me off guard. I gotta say,
Speaker 2: I'm god, I wasn't ready for it. Bett. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: high energy. Maybe it has to do with your new
Speaker 2: diet and you've been working out and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm down over thirty pounds. Well, I don't know. I'd
Speaker 2: say you're looking good, but you're my son, so that
Speaker 2: would be weird. Yeah, I think that would be very strange, weird.
Speaker 2: What episode number is this?
Speaker 3: Do you know? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I am Mike and you are Austin, and
Speaker 2: this is episode number eighteen eighteen of A Strange Thing Podcast.
Speaker 1: Almost did twenty I know we're almost.
Speaker 2: We are almost one year into this endeavor called a
Speaker 2: Strange Thing Podcast, Go figure right, eighteen episodes over the
Speaker 2: course of a year. We would have had we were
Speaker 2: shooting for twenty four episodes in a year. We're not
Speaker 2: going to make it because of this code. You really
Speaker 2: have to smush them out and COVID kind of derailed this,
Speaker 2: but it did and babies and we might get twenty
Speaker 2: are I think we're going to actually probably get nineteen
Speaker 2: twenty if we can get two more in before nine
Speaker 2: to eleven because our first kickoff launch us on nine
Speaker 2: to eleven, and not even because we you know, planned
Speaker 2: it that way, It was just out there. It was
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 1: We know it's kind of a hot number conspiratorially, yes,
Speaker 1: and emotionally.
Speaker 2: And you know what else is weird about nine to
Speaker 2: eleven of last year, of twenty nineteen. Last year, on
Speaker 2: September eleventh, we were up in the mountains recording.
Speaker 1: Our introsing in the woods.
Speaker 2: We were recording it without even knowing what we were
Speaker 2: going to talk about because we hadn't gotten any stories yet.
Speaker 2: It was and we were up there out in the
Speaker 2: wilderness having a good time, and we recorded and I
Speaker 2: had pre arranged for the launch of our first podcast
Speaker 2: to automatically launch while we were up there. It was
Speaker 2: a very momentous day. It was we have come a
Speaker 2: long way. We have. We've done a lot of things.
Speaker 1: We've added three even vehicular unit.
Speaker 2: And you're right, we've got the Investigation Destination Vehicle.
Speaker 1: D V d V and the m I d vs.
Speaker 1: The m I d vs many investigation destination vehicles.
Speaker 2: Otherwise known as motorcycles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cool part.
Speaker 2: So it's really cool because the m I d VS
Speaker 2: go into the I d V. It's kind of like
Speaker 2: they are basically what you would call a super duper
Speaker 2: set up. Well, yeah, it's been a good year. We've
Speaker 2: we've learned a lot about podcasting. We've learned a lot
Speaker 2: about whiskey. You know, you said pecker glyphs, which, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe we don't want to say that word. Yeah, probably
Speaker 2: not a good word. Pecker glyphs.
Speaker 1: You see those like high school bathroom stalls, Yes, you do,
Speaker 1: little pecker glyphs all over those stalls.
Speaker 2: Sometimes see them scratched it there with the underneath. Is
Speaker 2: like I saw one on the road today. Pecker glyphs
Speaker 2: painted spray painted.
Speaker 4: Pecker glass, a petri pic petrograph on the ground, on
Speaker 4: the of a giant erect male unit, a.
Speaker 2: Phallic symbol, a phallic symbol, which is also quite common
Speaker 2: on Disney movies. Oh man, we're way off topic. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we are. Like we said, this is episode number eighteen
Speaker 2: and we are talking about strange rocks, and tonight is
Speaker 2: our last episode on Strange Rocks, and then we're gonna migrate.
Speaker 2: We have a nice kind of segue into our next topic,
Speaker 2: and our next topic is going to be really fun,
Speaker 2: you know, speaking of segs.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. I just like say, speaking of
Speaker 1: segways because it's like a.
Speaker 2: A segue to a segue. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna talk about the people get this
Speaker 1: rock rolling.
Speaker 2: In our last episode, we kind of ended talking about
Speaker 2: the commonality of certain symbols that you find on petroglyphs,
Speaker 2: and there were a lot of things that were similar,
Speaker 2: like you find spirals, you find dot snacks, you find snakes,
Speaker 2: And that's that's kind of where we left it, because
Speaker 2: when we got to snakes and serpents and feathered serpents
Speaker 2: and dragons, we stumbled across something that's quite unique. And
Speaker 2: when I say we stumbled, I'm talking about you and me,
Speaker 2: because I think people have stumbled across this.
Speaker 1: I've actually watched you stumble on a snake rattlesnake.
Speaker 2: What do you mean stumbled?
Speaker 1: I'd leapt like a leopard with a broken foot, like
Speaker 1: a deer.
Speaker 2: Man. I were like, I was going a footless deer.
Speaker 2: Who thought your old pops could jump that high? Anyway?
Speaker 2: I didn't say about anyway, so you can't drink yep.
Speaker 1: Speaking of snakes and stuff, Yes, we were playing Cards
Speaker 1: against Humanity.
Speaker 2: You ever played a game. Yeah, it's a sick awful game.
Speaker 1: It's fun and uh, let's play with my in laws.
Speaker 1: Oddly enough, that's even more off.
Speaker 2: But one of the cards I was flying sex snake,
Speaker 2: Flying sex snake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I thought that was weird because we had
Speaker 1: just talked about, like, you know, just flying sex snakes.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's really weird. So this is a
Speaker 2: little sidebar, but it's still connected. We were talking about
Speaker 2: how serpents on petroglyphs are found all over the world,
Speaker 2: not just in in you know, Americas, but all over
Speaker 2: the post. And then we started talking about that the
Speaker 2: mythology behind these symbols that are on the petroglyphs or
Speaker 2: inscribed on rocks in Egypt or in Assyria or Babylon
Speaker 2: or wherever you want to go, that there is a
Speaker 2: whole mythos surrounding them, and a lot of those deal
Speaker 2: with sex. Yeah, that's why I thought it was funny
Speaker 2: and flying now and it's just bizarre. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: I kind of chuckle at this because but in a
Speaker 2: way I get kind of creeped out because when you
Speaker 2: get into this stuff, everything seems to kind of go
Speaker 2: back to the same origin, and that origin is always
Speaker 2: about sex, giants, UFOs, the paranormal. It's like everything always
Speaker 2: comes back to those. And so if you're looking at
Speaker 2: like these ancient inscriptions on rocks, they're often about things
Speaker 2: like gods coming from outer space or another world or
Speaker 2: parallel dimension having sex with humans, creating these chimera offspring
Speaker 2: that end up being worshiped and extremely violent or whatever.
Speaker 2: They are horrible, and then humanities fight against them or
Speaker 2: another gods fight against them to expunge them from the
Speaker 2: face of the earth. And those kind of common threads
Speaker 2: and stories are are everywhere. They really are it's weird,
Speaker 2: and I had no idea. And I think part of
Speaker 2: what the reason we notice it now is because we
Speaker 2: have the Internet where we can finally connect these dots.
Speaker 2: Like you were say saying earlier when they were talking
Speaker 2: about it, it's so weird. It's weird. I don't know
Speaker 2: really what that means, other than than it's like somehow
Speaker 2: all these different cultures have a similar upbringing. They they
Speaker 2: have experienced or heard the same stories, or that.
Speaker 1: It's kind of just the natural progression.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wonder about that. How about that works?
Speaker 1: Okay, how many teenage boys are out there thinking about it,
Speaker 1: Scarlett Johansson, and how many teenage girls are out there
Speaker 1: thinking about because gardless Johansson, we never know, ye judge, no,
Speaker 1: no judge, But you know, people are always like striving,
Speaker 1: so like I just want to grow up and find
Speaker 1: a man who's strong and capable and can hunt and
Speaker 1: also can shoot lightning from his fingers, you know, like.
Speaker 2: Because I'm sure every little girl does that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, people have unrealistic expectations, and you can
Speaker 1: see how like a story about extreme unrealistic expectations, like
Speaker 1: every romantic comedy ever kind of manipulate your perception of
Speaker 1: how your future is supposed to be. They were like
Speaker 1: fighting constantly and dealing with all kinds of problems, different tribes, whatever.
Speaker 1: So maybe some of these tales aren't necessarily like supernatural origins,
Speaker 1: but maybe they are like, a, well, this guy could
Speaker 1: have been our savior, and let's let's tell our kids
Speaker 1: about a positive future where we marry and sleep with
Speaker 1: this angelicus, you know, wise being.
Speaker 2: I kind of get that idea. But what's weird about
Speaker 2: it is all of these cultures that share these same
Speaker 2: kind of stories or these same kind of characters. I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe you could say kind of like you're going for,
Speaker 2: which is in all these cultures there are snakes everywhere, right,
Speaker 2: and there's something about snakes that are Hawaii people Hawaii
Speaker 2: and New Zealand and those. I don't think there's an
Speaker 2: Ireland either, right, because that one guy he cast them
Speaker 2: all out. He's a he's a saint, he's saint somebody apostrophe.
Speaker 2: He drove all the snakes out of Ireland. I don't
Speaker 2: know that that's the myths, but snakes but or there
Speaker 2: never were snakes here and he just claimed. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to know where there's no snakes here. Saint
Speaker 2: Apostrophe did that, but no, I mean, okay, so you
Speaker 2: could say, yeah, all these cultures have snakes. A lot
Speaker 2: of them are dangerous, so people revere them and they
Speaker 2: stay away from them because they're creepy, right, yep, slithery,
Speaker 2: and so you can kind of go there. But what
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense is that the stories aren't about a
Speaker 2: creature that's scary and poisonous or dangerous. The stories are
Speaker 2: always about a representative of that snake, that is a
Speaker 2: god or a demi god that does something. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: that is a weird thing that would just dive in
Speaker 2: multiple cultures across the world that are totally separated, they
Speaker 2: don't have the same unless they have the same kind
Speaker 2: of influence, why would they say the same kind of
Speaker 2: stories and use the the same creature to tell those stories. Right,
Speaker 2: And that's one thing that's really fascinating. And it's not
Speaker 2: just serpents, right, I mean, that's what we closed on
Speaker 2: on our last episode. We talked about these feathered or
Speaker 2: flying serpents and you could call them dragons because other
Speaker 2: cultures are dragons or and if you go to like
Speaker 2: Assyria or Babylon, and they're on the gate, the Ishtar gate.
Speaker 2: There are these they walk, they have legs, but they
Speaker 2: are dragons with a forked tongue. You have a quetzel Quaddal.
Speaker 2: I know that word, I don't know what it means.
Speaker 2: They have quetzel quadal out of South America or the
Speaker 2: Aztecs worship this feathered serpent god who is also a human.
Speaker 2: And so then you've got the whole idea modern times
Speaker 2: of like reptilian shape shifters, right so, and they're always
Speaker 2: like combined with ufo or aliens or transdimensional beings, or
Speaker 2: you could use the old words, which would be gods
Speaker 2: or elohim or the what's the on anaki in which
Speaker 2: is another And they're not even necessarily Reptilian, but they
Speaker 2: are these gods that came and gay man like all
Speaker 2: kinds of technology and information that we're supposed to have.
Speaker 2: And then you have the watchers. You have the stuff
Speaker 2: out of like the Book of Enoch, which are like
Speaker 2: these fallen angels or falling gods that come and cohabit
Speaker 2: with women. And there are all these myths about serpents, serpentine, reptilian,
Speaker 2: all kinds of weird stuff that's that I.
Speaker 1: Think of as like a I don't know where I
Speaker 1: heard this. It's a weird one. There's like a giant snake.
Speaker 1: I think it's Australia, my.
Speaker 2: Anke d on the Bobby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, there's like a giant snake and it's like
Speaker 1: the one that carved the canyon the river through.
Speaker 2: Oh the story of it, and there was like a
Speaker 2: giant fire.
Speaker 1: That's the Aborigines in Australia, which is like, I mean,
Speaker 1: Australia is far out man. Australia's far at night. You
Speaker 1: can go dann A, see kygaroos, you see many kangaroos.
Speaker 2: Crazy, everything's weird done under yep again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they have like I wish I knew the story,
Speaker 1: but like a snake that carved the river through. It
Speaker 1: was a giant snake and they didn't worship it and
Speaker 1: brought like a fire. I'm probably way off, but I
Speaker 1: think it's crazy that even Australia, which is like weigh
Speaker 1: in money, it's like you can't say most of the
Speaker 1: words Australians say on the radio.
Speaker 2: Well it's it seemed like there was a word in
Speaker 2: the what's his name thor thor in that mythology and
Speaker 2: the Battle of Ragnarok, and there was a giant serpent
Speaker 2: that was able. It was so huge it was able
Speaker 2: to wrap its itself all the way around the world,
Speaker 2: and Thor managed to kill it with his hammer Thema.
Speaker 2: But then he took like nine steps and died. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because you're the poison of the snake killed him. Don't
Speaker 2: believe it. I mean, but it's the same kind of
Speaker 2: of story. And you get into Native American stories and
Speaker 2: there are, I mean, there's too many to even begin
Speaker 2: to try to.
Speaker 1: Say a lot of mythology around snakes. Yes, long story, yes,
Speaker 1: and not only snakes in mythology, but snakes were so
Speaker 1: important in cultures separated across the world that they were
Speaker 1: chiseled into stone.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I try to find a way to reconcile it. But
Speaker 2: the only thing that kind of makes sense is that
Speaker 2: they had some kind they shared some original story. They
Speaker 2: shared the creature, the god, whatever it was that was
Speaker 2: the serpent creature. And if you can look in Judeo
Speaker 2: Christian traditions, you can look all over the place and
Speaker 2: that character is there, and that's weird. So another another
Speaker 2: thing that's really interesting about this is like in the
Speaker 2: Mesopotamian history and mythologies. So there in the times of
Speaker 2: like you look in like the biblical setting, you had
Speaker 2: Canaan knights, had you had all these Philistines, you had
Speaker 2: all these these people that were supposedly very evil, and
Speaker 2: then you have Israel that was supposed to be a
Speaker 2: light to the nations, and they failed miserably most of
Speaker 2: the time. But they go into these areas and they
Speaker 2: were worshiping different gods, and those gods were like Marduke
Speaker 2: and Belle or Baal. They called them the bales, and
Speaker 2: they were often tied to the image of the serpent
Speaker 2: or the snake or the dragon, or coiled.
Speaker 1: Around the image of the serpent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like Marduke and Molek. He's another one. Now,
Speaker 2: Molek was like a symbol of He was kind of
Speaker 2: seen as a bowl. But he's also often associated with
Speaker 2: Marduke and Bail. One of their manifestations is a serpent
Speaker 2: or a snake or a dragon like a bull snake. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so one thing weird about all of those Mesopotamian gods,
Speaker 2: they were renowned and known for their child sacrifice mandatess.
Speaker 2: So you have all these people the Philistines, the Canaanites,
Speaker 2: and even the even the Ingdeans that went into the land. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's not talk about Epstein here. But they were sacrificing
Speaker 2: their children in this mullick to this smolet god, and
Speaker 2: they would build this like giant Altar had the head
Speaker 2: of a bowl, and they would put fire in the
Speaker 2: belly of this thing and stoke it high, and then
Speaker 2: he had his arms out and they would roll and
Speaker 2: they would roll their daughters and sons down into the
Speaker 2: belly of this and surrender them to the flames. And
Speaker 2: it's like, so many of these stories are nefarious. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're bad, they're bad, they're things. They were not good creatures. Now,
Speaker 2: some serpents were kind of good. They were like in
Speaker 2: a lot of Asian cultures they were water dragons, and
Speaker 2: they were actually benevolent. They were good, you know, or
Speaker 2: at least they were neutral. They weren't bad or malevolent spiral. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they were fairly good entities, and a lot of times
Speaker 2: the whole concept of a serpent could be a token
Speaker 2: or sign of good luck. Interesting. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 2: different things change in different cultures. But when you get
Speaker 2: to mythology of these dragons, flying serpents, feathered serpents. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of nastiness that surround them. So long story
Speaker 2: short is, there are a lot of weird things on
Speaker 2: rocks that are evidence of mythologies that permeated a culture
Speaker 2: thousands of years ago. And it wasn't just the culture
Speaker 2: of those rocks that we saw, but it was the
Speaker 2: culture of all these societies across the globe that had
Speaker 2: similar narratives and similar characters and similar symbols and similar
Speaker 2: mythologies right at the same time. And that is just
Speaker 2: so fascinating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something weird about just rocks in general, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just a material that we
Speaker 1: have available.
Speaker 2: Well, they're really hard, yeah, they last a long time
Speaker 2: do But it's what is it about?
Speaker 1: Okay, So you and I were talking about maybe i'd
Speaker 1: come up with a list of.
Speaker 2: Like favorite rocks. Rocks. Yeah, so I came up with
Speaker 2: three that I thought were like real. I was, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm looking I was looking forward when we talked about this.
Speaker 2: I was looking forward to finding out what your favorite
Speaker 2: rocks are. Okay, I think there two of them are obvious.
Speaker 1: Okay, one of them is you probably have no idea. Okay,
Speaker 1: so the first one and you were talking about how it's.
Speaker 2: All over the world. There, she's weird rocks. Right, is
Speaker 2: stone Hinge? Stonehinge in England? England?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't know the exact location, like
Speaker 1: what area exactly.
Speaker 2: I can narrow it down for you. Okay, it's in
Speaker 2: the United Kingdom UK. All right. I had a teacher
Speaker 2: from the UK.
Speaker 1: He was a welding teacher and he did not drive.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. He's pretty cool. His name was me O Kem.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I think it's fun fact is that, according to
Speaker 1: this little documentary Gilly I was watching and kind of
Speaker 1: doing some little bit of research, is it shrinking.
Speaker 2: Because of earthworms something? Oh? Sinking? Sinking? Yeah, shrinking, sinking?
Speaker 2: Shrinking would be respective, I guess. Well, we wouldn't know
Speaker 2: if the universe is collapsing because everything would be shrinking
Speaker 2: with it, like you know if you wrote on a balloon, yeah, shrunk. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we would know if it's shrinking, but we would know
Speaker 2: if it's sinking. Yep. Okay, you're welcome.
Speaker 1: But yeah, apparently it's sinking like it's slowly like by
Speaker 1: Yeah apparently, so obviously they have to eat decay stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, like they take in that carbon or whatever
Speaker 1: and they.
Speaker 2: At the surface.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then apparently it's slowly, like very very slowly,
Speaker 1: and then like a thousand years or something, it'll like
Speaker 1: lose a fool.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not a freaking wormeologist. So it's
Speaker 2: Stonehenges is a sinking, not shrinking. Stonehinges sinking because of
Speaker 2: earthworm farts.
Speaker 1: Okay, yep, no, poop poop farts are way different.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: I think it's weird that it has a connection to
Speaker 1: like the fairy myth which fairy myths kind of tie
Speaker 1: into a lot of other stuff like UFOs and sasquatch, okay.
Speaker 2: And also which we're gonna talk about in the in
Speaker 2: it fairy myths, Native American myths of the cannibal dwarfs,
Speaker 2: a lot of Native American legends of small fairy like
Speaker 2: hobbit creatures in Native American mythology, I think.
Speaker 1: Typically, so a story that comes to mind about Stonehinge,
Speaker 1: it specifically is in fairy circles is like a thing
Speaker 1: fairy circle fairy circles. Uh, fairies will like kidnapped the
Speaker 1: loved one, yes, and then they will impersonate that loved
Speaker 1: one and you have to kind of best wits with
Speaker 1: this fairy to retrieve the person that you.
Speaker 2: You have to out smart him.
Speaker 1: Basically, I'm not like a fairy analogist.
Speaker 2: Kind of like Bilbo when he was out witting Galum
Speaker 2: in the Yeah, yes, I guess kind of. No, not
Speaker 2: at all. But they're purposefully.
Speaker 1: Facetious, and they kind of like play tricks, and they'll
Speaker 1: like come to you as somebody, you know, to lure
Speaker 1: you back into someplace, and they want to keep you
Speaker 1: forever unless you can best wits and you can outsmart them.
Speaker 1: And there's been stories of people like seeing a loved
Speaker 1: one in this very realm and actually like which is
Speaker 1: underground and has its own light sources unidentifiable or something,
Speaker 1: but they'll see like somebody who's died in the past,
Speaker 1: and they'll come to them and be like, you need
Speaker 1: to get out of here. If you don't get out fast,
Speaker 1: you will be here forever and they'll devour you or
Speaker 1: something like that. So that's kind of weird, and Stonehenge
Speaker 1: has a lot of those weird things. And then I
Speaker 1: heard a story of a young girl who moved there
Speaker 1: from like Montana, or something stupid, and she actually ended
Speaker 1: up dead near Stonehenge, and they thought because she was
Speaker 1: like dabbling in the occult, that maybe she had gone
Speaker 1: there as a ritualistic thing and maybe that's what that
Speaker 1: whole area was.
Speaker 2: Druids made it to like some kind of spellcasting super structure.
Speaker 1: Something and X ray and sonar kind of investigation of
Speaker 1: that area has kind of revealed it. It seems like there's
Speaker 1: a bunch of skeletons around there, oh, like a bunch
Speaker 1: like a burial ground and these are like a gravestones
Speaker 1: almost what.
Speaker 2: Do they call those ground penetrating radar?
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe probably, but so.
Speaker 2: It's built on like a cemetery, yeah kind of thing.
Speaker 2: And they said it was only like a holy burial site.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably like higher up people because there's not a
Speaker 1: ton of them.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot.
Speaker 1: There's enough to make it like, well, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of dead people here. And they said that there's almost
Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty ratio of men to women, So
Speaker 1: it was like like not only like cultural equality was
Speaker 1: pretty prevalent, but apparently these were like maybe kings and
Speaker 1: queens or you know, they kind of had like a
Speaker 1: I don't know I thought that was cool. That's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite rocks.
Speaker 2: So that was a lot of information about one of
Speaker 2: your favorites. What's your second favorite rock?
Speaker 1: Obviously, I think the next obvious rock cool thing is
Speaker 1: Easter Island.
Speaker 2: You know, I did a little research on Easter Island
Speaker 2: because it is really cool, and I just want to
Speaker 2: point out that there is a cave there that has
Speaker 2: petroglyphs or pictographs, I think a little both. That is
Speaker 2: called Cave of the Dragon.
Speaker 1: Easter Island's cool because all of the heads face out
Speaker 1: towards the ocean around the small island. I think it's
Speaker 1: off of like off of Chili. Yes, so Easter Island's
Speaker 1: off of Chili. And all of the East Island heads
Speaker 1: are facing out towards the ocean except for two and
Speaker 1: apparently I don't know what one of them is. It
Speaker 1: didn't really go into that, but the other ones like
Speaker 1: a bearded man and apparently Easter Islands heads actually have
Speaker 1: bodies and like their heads are proportionally off compared to
Speaker 1: their bodies, but they're all facing out from the ocean.
Speaker 2: Like protect Oh boy, their heads are way too bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all looking out towards the ocean, like they're
Speaker 1: like maybe like watching, and then there's this one that's
Speaker 1: like kind of bowing and he's like on his knee
Speaker 1: and his hands kind of out. He's got a beard.
Speaker 2: What's the age of those stone characters? Pretty old?
Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact date. I had like pretty
Speaker 1: good notes on all this stuff and it didn't save Oh.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know he has good How old are the
Speaker 2: Easter Island heads?
Speaker 6: Five hundred years old? On the website the culturetrip dot com,
Speaker 6: they say this is a question of much debate among
Speaker 6: scholars in the field, although there was a consensus they
Speaker 6: were built sometime between four hundred and fifteen hundred AD.
Speaker 6: That means all the statues are at least five hundred
Speaker 6: years old, if not much more.
Speaker 1: They're pretty old, but not as old as I thought
Speaker 1: they would be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not like fourteen thousand years old, like thing
Speaker 2: down at Winnemuck Lake.
Speaker 1: When I'm like, but they are cool, and they're all
Speaker 1: facing out, and they're giant and they're disproportionate.
Speaker 2: Which I think is cool.
Speaker 1: Somebody went through all the effort to move giant stones.
Speaker 2: Why would they do that? That's my question. And they've
Speaker 2: done a like a they're like, there's no way people
Speaker 2: at this time could have.
Speaker 1: Moved them, but if you carve them, and apparently they
Speaker 1: were able to, like scientists were able to like walk
Speaker 1: the statue like I don't know how many, but they
Speaker 1: were able to like actually shuffle it across land like
Speaker 1: it was just walking.
Speaker 2: Just wrote just kind of get a little lot balanced
Speaker 2: with like a rope or you know, just don't tip
Speaker 2: it over, man, it would be allowed. Just don't let
Speaker 2: fall on your Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I thought that was cool, and they seem to
Speaker 1: me like they were either a representation of a god
Speaker 1: or maybe an intimidation factor for you know, a people
Speaker 1: coming in and they were like, oh, that's a big
Speaker 1: fellow standing on the sand.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So if you want to find the mythology of that,
Speaker 2: you could ascribe something like the Watchers to what those
Speaker 2: might symbolize, because the why were always looking out for humanity.
Speaker 2: So even like as bad as it as it was,
Speaker 2: you remember the movie with Russell Crowe Noah Noah, and
Speaker 2: they had those rock giants, That's what those were. They
Speaker 2: were the Watchers. And in the Book of Enoch, which
Speaker 2: is not official reading material, it never was canonized and
Speaker 2: put in the Bible, but it's referred to in the Bible,
Speaker 2: so it existed at the time that some of the
Speaker 2: writers were writing. But they talked about the Watchers, which
Speaker 2: were these angelic beings or gods, these e looking that
Speaker 2: left their estate and they basically were assigned a region
Speaker 2: of people to protect and to watch over. That's why
Speaker 2: they have the name Watchers.
Speaker 3: The Creator formed us on the second Day, the day
Speaker 3: he named the heavens. We watched over out oft the eve,
Speaker 3: saw their frailty and their love, and then we saw therefore,
Speaker 3: and we pitied. We were once owned them, but light
Speaker 3: it was not our place to interfere. Yet we chose
Speaker 3: to try and help and kind and when we disobeyed
Speaker 3: the Creator, he punished us. We were encrusted by your world.
Speaker 2: So it's really strange to me that now you are
Speaker 2: talking about one of your favorite rock formations in the
Speaker 2: middle of this island outside of Chili, and there's giant
Speaker 2: heads that probably are associated with these same potential historic legends.
Speaker 2: Probably potentially potentially, I mean from my I'm not a
Speaker 2: professional total hack, right, we've talked about this, but from
Speaker 2: my hack in my brain, it sounds like that's a
Speaker 2: really good mess. It sounds good, Yeah, looks good on paper.
Speaker 2: It looks good on paper, and it fits.
Speaker 1: Another thing I thought was cool is that the Easter
Speaker 1: Island area seems like uninhabited, but through some equation and
Speaker 1: mathematical and historical references they can find that there was
Speaker 1: I think it was like sweet potatoes or something that
Speaker 1: you're there about actually, and there could have been like
Speaker 1: a pretty good population.
Speaker 2: I wish I had more now. So was it like,
Speaker 2: were they like agricultural they would actually like think they
Speaker 2: were like farming or were they just leaners? I think
Speaker 2: they were farming. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: But it was only five hundred years ago.
Speaker 2: Well they said five hundred two. You're almost one ad
Speaker 2: to five hundred, so I mean that could be anywhere
Speaker 2: up to two thousand years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty darn old anyway. So that one's kind
Speaker 1: of weird, and it like fairy circles weird, but it
Speaker 1: looks like just a bunch of rocks. Easter Island's kind
Speaker 1: of weird because it's a lot of effort. I mean,
Speaker 1: could you imagine scratching all these pretty in depth faces
Speaker 1: with detail and not even and you know, like that's
Speaker 1: pretty intense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 1: My third one, last one, You're welcome, guys, is uh.
Speaker 1: It's at Dry Fork Canyon in Utah, and I had
Speaker 1: to poke around all over. I was actually looking for
Speaker 1: a different one and I found this one. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's my new favorite. It's got giant horned monsters holding
Speaker 1: decapitated heads of humans with with with with with crying faces, yes,
Speaker 1: and and they're big human like monsters just pulling people apart.
Speaker 1: There's one where like a head is next to like
Speaker 1: a foot, and it's like it's pretty messed up. And
Speaker 1: they got big old heads like Easter Island, which which
Speaker 1: made me kind of make that leap And I thought
Speaker 1: that was gross and weird. And maybe it's an it's
Speaker 1: a prospective thing, like maybe it's symbolic like the other
Speaker 1: tribe or the other group of people that lived here
Speaker 1: were superior and they killed us all and they cut
Speaker 1: off our heads. And that's why the bigger in the paintings,
Speaker 1: because the winner's write history, right.
Speaker 2: So do you see those as petroglyphs or pictographs? I
Speaker 2: think they're I think they were pecked to pic to peppers.
Speaker 2: I think there are pictographs. I think they are pictographs,
Speaker 2: but I said rocks. Yes, no, I you know, it's
Speaker 2: really weird that you say that, because I was looking
Speaker 2: at part of what we were going to talk about
Speaker 2: in a little bit, these cannibals, and that was one
Speaker 2: of the references that came up in this canyon because
Speaker 2: they're decapitated and there are these weird kind of manifestations
Speaker 2: of like humanoid creatures there. You know, they could be
Speaker 2: skin walkers or you know, who knows what they're referring to.
Speaker 2: They could be the shaman. But it's really weird that
Speaker 2: that came up as one of the searches. And now
Speaker 2: you're talking about you got that one. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: totally Yeah, it was one of the ones I came
Speaker 2: up with Nine Mile Canyon, the Skinwalker Native American witch
Speaker 2: mythos crazy. Yeah, I put it there just for that.
Speaker 1: Here's another so I guess there's around uh Skinwalker Ranch,
Speaker 1: which is which is I've heard that I couldn't find
Speaker 1: any online. Another one that the mythology of Skinwalker Ranch
Speaker 1: in that area between the two tribes, that one of
Speaker 1: them they will not even look at that direction of
Speaker 1: the ranch because of the curse that was put on
Speaker 1: there in the Skinwalker, but we'll get into Skinwalker's here.
Speaker 1: So the last one I found is a half one.
Speaker 1: This is a co worker. Grew up around Oregon. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think it's right on the border of Oregon and California.
Speaker 1: There's a lava bed there and there's this Petrick pet
Speaker 1: peck pecker ticker and it's a scratchy one. And on
Speaker 1: this scratchy one Petrick Pecker I think they call it
Speaker 1: Petrick Glyff Point.
Speaker 2: And it's right on the.
Speaker 1: Edge of this big lava bed like craters of the
Speaker 1: moon for you, you know, and Idaho people. It's like, it
Speaker 1: looks like a moon scene. It's just weird rolling craters,
Speaker 1: volcanic swirly rocks and craters.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: But on this picture pector is Petrick Petrick glyph is
Speaker 1: these scratches, and they thought it was Native American, and
Speaker 1: then through more recent research they they're starting to think
Speaker 1: it's Norse like Viking, like one of the earliest Viking
Speaker 1: contacts with the US with the Americans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I thought that was really cool. But I
Speaker 1: was trying to track it down and he's like, is
Speaker 1: this small thing there's a big sign when you get there.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't remember exactly the location and I was
Speaker 1: trying to use like keywords that he had given me.
Speaker 2: Well, if we can find it, I'll put it up
Speaker 2: on the website, which you know I should say here
Speaker 2: because it's a perfect moment. Yeah, go to our website.
Speaker 2: Check it out. I've been putting these little blog posts
Speaker 2: that support each one of our episodes. So go there.
Speaker 2: We have links to a lot of what we talked about. Cool. Okay,
Speaker 2: my turn for my favorite rocks. So one of my
Speaker 2: first favorites, probably because I grew up in the area
Speaker 2: and I saw it all the time, is Balanced Rock.
Speaker 2: This is outside of a hall Stride ho. It's just
Speaker 2: this weird kind of almost like a golf club kind
Speaker 2: of top rock. That's huge. I think I've talked about
Speaker 2: it last Yeah, and it's just kind of it's on
Speaker 2: this small base and it sticks up like a giant
Speaker 2: golf club head and there are pictures of people like
Speaker 2: on the top of it playing cards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was like a professional rock climber.
Speaker 2: And you know what was really sad is this has
Speaker 2: probably been thirty years ago. Forty years ago somebody tried
Speaker 2: to blow it up and knock it over and they
Speaker 2: did some damage to it, but it didn't fall and
Speaker 2: it Yeah, so they came in with some like concrete
Speaker 2: type stuff and they tried to shore it up because
Speaker 2: it is kind of a tourist still there drawing yet.
Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite places to camp. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: can fish in that. They have a little park, you
Speaker 2: can camp, you can fish, you can hike.
Speaker 1: Like a sea saw and yeah, little playground and stuff
Speaker 1: in the bathroom.
Speaker 2: And it's a unique area. It's really kind of cool
Speaker 2: and just just you know, if you're ever in that
Speaker 2: neck of the woods. Close by are the Hagerman fossil beds,
Speaker 2: so there are all kinds of dinosaur bones that are
Speaker 2: you know, dug up there and it's an ongoing kind
Speaker 2: of excavation there. Ye. And it's a fun place to go.
Speaker 2: So if you're ever in that area of Idaho, check
Speaker 2: it out. It's a cool thing. And if you don't
Speaker 2: want to go to Idaho, I don't blame you. I'll
Speaker 2: put pictures on our website. Yeah, that's a good time.
Speaker 2: So that's my that's one of my favorite Idaho It sucks, Yeah,
Speaker 2: don't come here. We're on the whole place is nobody
Speaker 2: should come here because it's gross and nobody wants to
Speaker 2: be here, and we you know, we suffer through it.
Speaker 2: But if you come here, you'll hate it. So my
Speaker 2: favorite rock is Rainbow Bridge. You have to get there
Speaker 2: by going on Lake Powell in southern Utah. Yeah, I've
Speaker 2: been there with you. Yeah. Yeah. So if you get
Speaker 2: on there and you're actually I think you're probably in
Speaker 2: Arizona when you get to Rainbow Bridge. But it's just
Speaker 2: an arch and the only way to get there is
Speaker 2: to go on this lake. And Lake Powell is amazingly huge.
Speaker 2: It's long, with lots of channels that kind of feed
Speaker 2: into it. So there's a lot of like I guess
Speaker 2: you would call it beachline, but a lot of it
Speaker 2: is you're going up these little narrow canyons in the water.
Speaker 1: It's like fingering out all directions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a sun rape. Yeah. It's really a cool lake,
Speaker 2: and it's hot. It's really hot down there, and there's
Speaker 2: a lot of petroglyphs down in that area too. So
Speaker 2: if you go down in that area, you have to go.
Speaker 2: I think it's about twenty five miles by boat. Wow,
Speaker 2: and there's a little place where you can dock your boat.
Speaker 2: Little dock there and you can walk in. It's probably
Speaker 2: another mile. And there is this bridge made of rock.
Speaker 1: It's just an arch like a natural bridge.
Speaker 2: And it's called Rainbow Bridge. And we went there with
Speaker 2: some good friends of ours and explored Lake Powell. And
Speaker 2: you know, that whole area is so cool. I mean
Speaker 2: southern Utah and Arizona and New Mexico.
Speaker 1: Zion National National Park and Park Art I meant, but
Speaker 1: Rocks canyon Lands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is is weird. It is so cool and
Speaker 2: I think you could live your whole life there and
Speaker 2: never run out of things to look at. But anyway,
Speaker 2: that was a that's a really cool one for me.
Speaker 2: I know there are other places, but as far as
Speaker 2: the ones that I have seen, those are like my favorite.
Speaker 2: Thore stuck out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen any of the ones that I
Speaker 1: spoke of, but I just I think it'd be cool
Speaker 1: to see those, especially because two of.
Speaker 2: Them are not on the continent. Right. Yeah, it would
Speaker 2: be fun to go to Easter Island.
Speaker 1: Ding anyway, it would be fun to go to Easter Island. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it'd be fun to take some motorcycles over there because
Speaker 1: I feel like that area is like much more you know,
Speaker 1: luckily and roly and green and lush.
Speaker 2: Looking at it from you know, Google Earth, it's not
Speaker 2: very big. No, it's it's just I mean it's I
Speaker 2: don't think it's as big as Hawaii.
Speaker 1: So I work with some like a Hungarian guy.
Speaker 2: His name's Attila.
Speaker 1: I call him Attila the hunt Hungarian, and he's super cool,
Speaker 1: one of the nicest people in the world. He lived
Speaker 1: in a castle with his family. Like he's straight up European.
Speaker 1: But I always make fun of It's like you can
Speaker 1: go from Boise to Nampa and be in a different country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now we got to speak a different language. We
Speaker 1: use different money now because we went on a freeway
Speaker 1: for an hour, two hours.
Speaker 2: And you're off your country. Ear.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the Eastern States of the US.
Speaker 1: It's like tiny, tiny, tiny, that's like their whole area. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Russia gigant on all of Siberia we have,
Speaker 1: do you guys like small?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Any Let's get back to our rocks. Yeah, we're off
Speaker 2: We get off track all the time. So before we
Speaker 2: went down to our favorite rocks, what were we talking about.
Speaker 2: So let's just reel all the way back. Let's go
Speaker 2: back to where we were talking about petroglyphs, and we
Speaker 2: were talking about this. You know, we had the dragons
Speaker 2: and the serpents and that kind of stuff that are
Speaker 2: on these these rocks all over the world. We were
Speaker 2: kind of going to launch into other things that are
Speaker 2: on these rocks that are also like dragons, serpents are
Speaker 2: all over the place. And one of those that I
Speaker 2: thought was really weird. There are on these rocks. And
Speaker 2: let's just say, in the Americas a lot of these
Speaker 2: weird humanoid characters symbols. Some of them look like aliens,
Speaker 2: some of them look like giants, some of them look
Speaker 2: like Bigfoot, some of them look like horned creatures from
Speaker 2: outer space. Some of them look like reptilians. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just weird. A lot of them look like chimeras.
Speaker 2: They'll have wings, or they'll they'll have horns, or they're
Speaker 2: animal characters, right, And so these things populate a lot
Speaker 2: of the petroglyphs that you see in the Americas, but
Speaker 2: they also are frequently seen in other rock art formations
Speaker 2: throughout the world. In Egypt, Is, Syria, Babylon, Mesopotamia, Africa, Asia,
Speaker 2: The same kind of things keep coming up, and that
Speaker 2: is really a weird thing. So one of those things,
Speaker 2: besides the serpents and the dragons, are the depictions of
Speaker 2: what a lot of people believe are shaman and holymen.
Speaker 2: But really, you know, nobody really knows for sure, right,
Speaker 2: you have no way, you can't ask somebody. No, it's like,
Speaker 2: this is this weird chimera. Is it symbolic of of
Speaker 2: your shaman, of your tribe, or is this actually saying
Speaker 2: something about some mythological creature?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And Native American cultures are right with all kinds of
Speaker 2: mythological creatures. So I thought it'd be fun because some
Speaker 2: of these depictions could be those characters that we talk about.
Speaker 2: Some of those One of those that people talk about
Speaker 2: are the Native American legends of water babies. You have
Speaker 2: you heard about these?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think when we were talking about the podcast,
Speaker 1: that was one of the ones I wanted to do
Speaker 1: that you brought up, Yeah, because they're they're they're fairly
Speaker 1: close to where we are, these water baby mythologies. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, that was one of the first things I
Speaker 1: wanted to do as water babies and it seems creepy,
Speaker 1: but it has the word baby in it, so I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not scared of you.
Speaker 2: So, so what is your understanding of what water babies
Speaker 2: are as far as their mythology or legend.
Speaker 1: I think they're kind of almost like impish or like
Speaker 1: elve like the fairies that I was talking about. They're
Speaker 1: like almost pranksty or like the black eyed children. They're
Speaker 1: deceptive and they want to lure you, and they want
Speaker 1: to guide you into into something, into like another realm, and.
Speaker 2: Their endgame is to lead away children or people by
Speaker 2: pretending to be young infants like black black eyed children. Yeah,
Speaker 2: or you could almost take it to like the idea
Speaker 2: of mermaids and syreens. Yeah whatever. They are the creatures
Speaker 2: that call you towards a body water. Yeah yeah, man,
Speaker 2: And like you think somebody's in trouble, a child's drowning,
Speaker 2: and you go to rescue them, and then lo and behold,
Speaker 2: they lure you out and take you and drown you
Speaker 2: in the upside. In the Indian Native American legends, they
Speaker 2: would tell these stories to warn children basically, I think,
Speaker 2: to stay away from the water.
Speaker 1: That makes sense, that sounds yeah, Yeah, water's dangerous, especially
Speaker 1: if you don't know how to hold your breath and
Speaker 1: or swim.
Speaker 2: But you know what's weird about it is this is
Speaker 2: not a mythology that is unique to Native American culture.
Speaker 2: You find the same thing and well, what's a famous
Speaker 2: one children of lick Corn. I don't know what so
Speaker 2: good to Ireland? What do they have up the leprecauns?
Speaker 2: You have the little leprechaun people keep you away from water. Well, no, no,
Speaker 2: that they're not specifically water, but they're leprechauns and fairies
Speaker 2: and and things water nymphs that that tempt you to
Speaker 2: go towards the water, and you know, water's dangerous. People drowned,
Speaker 2: They don't drown. The get grouped in witch by which
Speaker 2: but girls, I thought we were on the train of kids.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you taking the kid train. I was taking
Speaker 2: the water fairy train. Okay, you can have the old
Speaker 2: water fairies known as mermaids, or you can have the
Speaker 2: young baby water babies. But anyway, their end results is
Speaker 2: the same people drown right. The same thing happens when
Speaker 2: you know, like people that were floating in big boats
Speaker 2: across the ocean and they had the legends of the
Speaker 2: mermaids that would you know, sirens that would tempt people
Speaker 2: to join them and they would drown them. So it's
Speaker 2: the same kind of weirdness, But I can almost understand
Speaker 2: the origin of those mythologies as a practical one, unlike
Speaker 2: maybe like the dragons and the serpents that have a
Speaker 2: different kind of like thing where people come from outer
Speaker 2: space or they come from another dimension or their gods
Speaker 2: or whatever. Right, I mean that's a little different than
Speaker 2: like water namps, yeah, or mermaids specifically.
Speaker 1: You have let's say, I don't know how many people
Speaker 1: ran a normal ship right with sails. It was a
Speaker 1: it was a heavy duty, rough and tough group of dudes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably not a lot of female interaction. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know anything about dudes, but their female driven.
Speaker 2: So it wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Surprise me if like people legitimately went insane and that
Speaker 1: was like, well they saw a mermaid, they saw a
Speaker 1: woman in the water.
Speaker 2: They were going that was their hallucination. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: like some kind of like and how they met their demise. Well,
Speaker 2: you think about these people out of boats, they end
Speaker 2: up out in the middle of the Ocean's gay wind stops. Yeah,
Speaker 2: no hotter, no propulsion and humid. Where can they go?
Speaker 2: What can they do? So they sit out there and
Speaker 2: they lay anguish and these dead, windless, calm ocean they
Speaker 2: can't go anywhere man. And then so you know, food
Speaker 2: is a is a commodity that is limited, and people
Speaker 2: are longing for companionship other you know, their loved ones
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 1: I want you to play the song cabin Fever from
Speaker 1: Muppet Treasure Island Kevin.
Speaker 5: Day so long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. So they I mean, I can understand
Speaker 2: the origin of the whole idea of Mermaid and stuff
Speaker 2: and how they You know, you go out there long enough,
Speaker 2: you might start having and you're malnourished, way dehyded.
Speaker 1: They had to have been. You can't carry that much
Speaker 1: water along with all the food, along with all of
Speaker 1: the stuff you're supposed to be transporting.
Speaker 2: Yep. On land, you know, kids go out and they drown.
Speaker 2: They run away Mom and dad's not watching, and so
Speaker 2: they run away and they're out there by the and
Speaker 2: then they fall in. And then what do they do?
Speaker 2: You know, they make up stories they to blame this
Speaker 2: tragedy on. You know, they could easily come up with
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. So we have water babies and
Speaker 2: maybe some of the petroglyphs depict that kind of nefarious
Speaker 2: kind of creature.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Another one would be the skinwalker. Full another topic. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so the skin walker. We could do a whole
Speaker 2: episode or maybe even a series on the idea of
Speaker 2: the skin walker, which is basically a witch who has
Speaker 2: the ability to basically cast a spell that allows them
Speaker 2: to become kind of this weird creature that takes on
Speaker 2: the powers of like an.
Speaker 1: Animal, very often a cannibalistic aspect.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, like a like a wolf or something that
Speaker 2: will eat humans as protein. Now that's interesting to me
Speaker 2: because that is also a lot of the kind of
Speaker 2: mythology that you find surrounding these you know, like we
Speaker 2: talked a little bit about the Watchers that came from
Speaker 2: you know, the gods that came out and had offspring.
Speaker 2: That offspring was often noted as being cannibalistic, and if
Speaker 2: not cannibalistic, they would be extremely violent towards humanity. Crazy, Yeah,
Speaker 2: just totally violent that we just kill them. They would
Speaker 2: kill them like we kill rock chunks or gophers, you know,
Speaker 2: just go out for fun and just kill a bunch
Speaker 2: of humans today. Yeah, so, I mean that's kind of
Speaker 2: the legend that so I find it interesting in the
Speaker 2: legends of skinwalkers that they're like cannibalistic and they go
Speaker 2: after and assume the power of whatever creature that they're
Speaker 2: walking in the skin of and then take out humans. Right,
Speaker 2: I've heard, I've heard.
Speaker 1: So it's weird that you bring it up a podcast
Speaker 1: that I really like that.
Speaker 2: He actually just did a Skinwalker Ranch. Oh, a Skinwalker Ranch. Yeah, episode.
Speaker 2: I just I just watched that whole series on web
Speaker 2: was it Annie or whatever. It's pretty good. It was
Speaker 2: you know, it's creepy, it's weird what goes on there,
Speaker 2: but you kind of see they get into like this,
Speaker 2: well anyway, I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, this guy Dan Cummins. The podcast is
Speaker 1: called Time Suck, Time Suck. Yeah, it's really good. It's
Speaker 1: an awesome part one.
Speaker 2: Of my it might be my favorite, but we almost
Speaker 2: like it better than ourselves. But go ahead, he.
Speaker 1: Goes over everything. This is why it's on my mind.
Speaker 1: You brought it up totally innocently. But if I remember, right,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of Native and stories that are
Speaker 1: like this like another one that he did previously, the
Speaker 1: wind to go basically like in a way to recapture
Speaker 1: their humanity to eat after becoming a witch and after
Speaker 1: becoming is evil, they can't satisfy their hunger for their
Speaker 1: human flesh, for their density.
Speaker 2: So, okay, just parallel to that. Okay, so the story
Speaker 2: of you know that Jesus talks about in biblical narrative
Speaker 2: about disembodied spirits, and so they are disembodied spirits that
Speaker 2: long for the ability to have a body again to inhabit.
Speaker 2: And so they're basically like the skinwalker, they're longing to
Speaker 2: be human again. They're longing to be inside of a
Speaker 2: body that is solid. And it's the same kind of
Speaker 2: thing It talks about these evil spirits that they don't
Speaker 2: have a body, so they possess another body, and then
Speaker 2: when they're cast out of that body, it hurts, it's
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a painful situation. So they try
Speaker 2: to find a place to go. And I wonder, you know,
Speaker 2: that's a very similar kind of thought. So in a
Speaker 2: skin walker, the.
Speaker 1: Human, you're searching for a human and that's why they
Speaker 1: take on these forms of wolves or whatever animals around
Speaker 1: similar to the pigs that run.
Speaker 2: Off, So, which is really cool. You got there. I
Speaker 2: just got goosebumps. Disembodied spirits looking for a habitation for
Speaker 2: their spirit, right, that is the same narrative as we
Speaker 2: talked about in one of our first podcasts and cattle mulations.
Speaker 2: It's like, what would you do to be able to
Speaker 2: be inside of a body or a tent for your spirit?
Speaker 2: Once you get there, then you're like Bigfoot. You're talking
Speaker 2: about grays, you're talking about blues, you're talking about repattillions,
Speaker 2: you're talking about the ability to put a spirit in
Speaker 2: a body, in a biological suit, biological suit. It's basically
Speaker 2: a skin walker. Yeah, And a lot of people speculate
Speaker 2: there's Bigfoot, a lot of cattle mutilations at skin Mark Range.
Speaker 2: I believe, yes, and just around Bigfoot in all those things.
Speaker 2: And it's always connected to UFOs, which is always connected
Speaker 2: to some kind of like sexual organ kind of experimentation
Speaker 2: or reproductive organs that are kind of it's almost like
Speaker 2: people are or something not people. Something is trying to
Speaker 2: create a livable body for a disembodied spirit or skin walker.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just throwing out there because we're
Speaker 2: right there. You know, this is one of the things
Speaker 2: we talked about, and it is something that you know,
Speaker 2: even if you're a big Foot enthusiast or if you're
Speaker 2: somebody who talks about these other things UFOs, cattle mutilations.
Speaker 2: You know, when you get into the paranormals side, or
Speaker 2: you get to the transdimensional side, and then you kind
Speaker 2: of marry in a little bit of this, you know,
Speaker 2: the mythology of like disembodied spirits or watchers or Nephelim
Speaker 2: or rafam or whatever you want to do, the Anunaki.
Speaker 2: It's like, all of a sudden, all of these creatures
Speaker 2: are looking for the same thing, which is they're looking
Speaker 2: for a physical home for their spirits. Weird. This is weird.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, this is Mike, and I'm cutting in here
Speaker 2: because the conversation on this topic kept going and going
Speaker 2: to the tune of two and a half hours, and
Speaker 2: rather than losing some of that content, we've decided to
Speaker 2: cut this episode in half. We're going to pick up
Speaker 2: next time right here and continue this conversation onto its
Speaker 2: climactic finish, and it's only going to get weirder, stranger,
Speaker 2: and funner from here on. Out. I guess funner is
Speaker 2: a word. Anyway, until next time, keep it strange, taters.