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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome to everybody's favorite audio distraction ASTP,

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<v Speaker 1>A Strange Thing podcast where cold drinks and strange conversations

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<v Speaker 1>are the best combination. As always, we're coming to you

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<v Speaker 1>hot and fast from the ASTP Stranger Zone, and I

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<v Speaker 1>am your host, Austin.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Around the room, is the man, the myth, the legend himself,

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<v Speaker 1>the Odin to my thor Mike?

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<v Speaker 2>Mike, how you doing? What's what's going on? Man? Bringing

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<v Speaker 2>the energy you are? We've been talking about how we

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<v Speaker 2>need to start having fun again, so I became chat studley.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of caught me off guard. I gotta say,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm god, I wasn't ready for it. Bett. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 2>high energy. Maybe it has to do with your new

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<v Speaker 2>diet and you've been working out and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm down over thirty pounds. Well, I don't know. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>say you're looking good, but you're my son, so that

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<v Speaker 2>would be weird. Yeah, I think that would be very strange, weird.

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<v Speaker 2>What episode number is this?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, I am Mike and you are Austin, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is episode number eighteen eighteen of A Strange Thing Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost did twenty I know we're almost.

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<v Speaker 2>We are almost one year into this endeavor called a

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<v Speaker 2>Strange Thing Podcast, Go figure right, eighteen episodes over the

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<v Speaker 2>course of a year. We would have had we were

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<v Speaker 2>shooting for twenty four episodes in a year. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to make it because of this code. You really

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<v Speaker 2>have to smush them out and COVID kind of derailed this,

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<v Speaker 2>but it did and babies and we might get twenty

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<v Speaker 2>are I think we're going to actually probably get nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>twenty if we can get two more in before nine

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven because our first kickoff launch us on nine

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven, and not even because we you know, planned

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<v Speaker 2>it that way, It was just out there. It was

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<v Speaker 2>that way.

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<v Speaker 1>We know it's kind of a hot number conspiratorially, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and emotionally.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what else is weird about nine to

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<v Speaker 2>eleven of last year, of twenty nineteen. Last year, on

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<v Speaker 2>September eleventh, we were up in the mountains recording.

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<v Speaker 1>Our introsing in the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>We were recording it without even knowing what we were

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about because we hadn't gotten any stories yet.

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<v Speaker 2>It was and we were up there out in the

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<v Speaker 2>wilderness having a good time, and we recorded and I

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<v Speaker 2>had pre arranged for the launch of our first podcast

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<v Speaker 2>to automatically launch while we were up there. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a very momentous day. It was we have come a

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<v Speaker 2>long way. We have. We've done a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>We've added three even vehicular unit.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're right, we've got the Investigation Destination Vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>D V d V and the m I d vs.

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<v Speaker 1>The m I d vs many investigation destination vehicles.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise known as motorcycles.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the cool part.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's really cool because the m I d VS

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<v Speaker 2>go into the I d V. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>they are basically what you would call a super duper

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<v Speaker 2>set up. Well, yeah, it's been a good year. We've

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<v Speaker 2>we've learned a lot about podcasting. We've learned a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about whiskey. You know, you said pecker glyphs, which, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we don't want to say that word. Yeah, probably

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<v Speaker 2>not a good word. Pecker glyphs.

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<v Speaker 1>You see those like high school bathroom stalls, Yes, you do,

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<v Speaker 1>little pecker glyphs all over those stalls.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes see them scratched it there with the underneath. Is

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<v Speaker 2>like I saw one on the road today. Pecker glyphs

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<v Speaker 2>painted spray painted.

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<v Speaker 4>Pecker glass, a petri pic petrograph on the ground, on

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<v Speaker 4>the of a giant erect male unit, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Phallic symbol, a phallic symbol, which is also quite common

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<v Speaker 2>on Disney movies. Oh man, we're way off topic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we are. Like we said, this is episode number eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>and we are talking about strange rocks, and tonight is

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<v Speaker 2>our last episode on Strange Rocks, and then we're gonna migrate.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a nice kind of segue into our next topic,

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<v Speaker 2>and our next topic is going to be really fun,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, speaking of segs.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't know. I just like say, speaking of

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<v Speaker 2>A segue to a segue. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna talk about the people get this

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<v Speaker 2>In our last episode, we kind of ended talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the commonality of certain symbols that you find on petroglyphs,

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<v Speaker 2>and there were a lot of things that were similar,

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<v Speaker 2>like you find spirals, you find dot snacks, you find snakes,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's kind of where we left it, because

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<v Speaker 2>when we got to snakes and serpents and feathered serpents

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<v Speaker 2>and dragons, we stumbled across something that's quite unique. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I say we stumbled, I'm talking about you and me,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think people have stumbled across this.

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually watched you stumble on a snake rattlesnake.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean stumbled?

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<v Speaker 1>I'd leapt like a leopard with a broken foot, like

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<v Speaker 1>a deer.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. I were like, I was going a footless deer.

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<v Speaker 2>Who thought your old pops could jump that high? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say about anyway, so you can't drink yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of snakes and stuff, Yes, we were playing Cards

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<v Speaker 1>against Humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever played a game. Yeah, it's a sick awful game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun and uh, let's play with my in laws.

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<v Speaker 1>Oddly enough, that's even more off.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the cards I was flying sex snake,

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<v Speaker 2>Flying sex snake.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I thought that was weird because we had

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<v Speaker 1>just talked about, like, you know, just flying sex snakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, it's really weird. So this is a

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<v Speaker 2>little sidebar, but it's still connected. We were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how serpents on petroglyphs are found all over the world,

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<v Speaker 2>not just in in you know, Americas, but all over

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<v Speaker 2>the post. And then we started talking about that the

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<v Speaker 2>mythology behind these symbols that are on the petroglyphs or

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<v Speaker 2>or wherever you want to go, that there is a

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<v Speaker 2>whole mythos surrounding them, and a lot of those deal

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<v Speaker 2>with sex. Yeah, that's why I thought it was funny

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<v Speaker 2>and flying now and it's just bizarre. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of chuckle at this because but in a

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<v Speaker 2>way I get kind of creeped out because when you

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<v Speaker 2>get into this stuff, everything seems to kind of go

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<v Speaker 2>back to the same origin, and that origin is always

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<v Speaker 2>about sex, giants, UFOs, the paranormal. It's like everything always

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<v Speaker 2>comes back to those. And so if you're looking at

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<v Speaker 2>like these ancient inscriptions on rocks, they're often about things

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<v Speaker 2>like gods coming from outer space or another world or

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<v Speaker 2>parallel dimension having sex with humans, creating these chimera offspring

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<v Speaker 2>that end up being worshiped and extremely violent or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>They are horrible, and then humanities fight against them or

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<v Speaker 2>another gods fight against them to expunge them from the

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<v Speaker 2>face of the earth. And those kind of common threads

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<v Speaker 2>and stories are are everywhere. They really are it's weird,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had no idea. And I think part of

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<v Speaker 2>what the reason we notice it now is because we

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<v Speaker 2>have the Internet where we can finally connect these dots.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you were say saying earlier when they were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it, it's so weird. It's weird. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>really what that means, other than than it's like somehow

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<v Speaker 2>all these different cultures have a similar upbringing. They they

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<v Speaker 2>have experienced or heard the same stories, or that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of just the natural progression.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wonder about that. How about that works?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, how many teenage boys are out there thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>Scarlett Johansson, and how many teenage girls are out there

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about because gardless Johansson, we never know, ye judge, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no judge, But you know, people are always like striving,

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<v Speaker 1>so like I just want to grow up and find

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<v Speaker 1>a man who's strong and capable and can hunt and

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<v Speaker 1>also can shoot lightning from his fingers, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm sure every little girl does that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, people have unrealistic expectations, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>see how like a story about extreme unrealistic expectations, like

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<v Speaker 1>every romantic comedy ever kind of manipulate your perception of

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<v Speaker 1>how your future is supposed to be. They were like

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<v Speaker 1>fighting constantly and dealing with all kinds of problems, different tribes, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe some of these tales aren't necessarily like supernatural origins,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe they are like, a, well, this guy could

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<v Speaker 1>have been our savior, and let's let's tell our kids

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<v Speaker 1>about a positive future where we marry and sleep with

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<v Speaker 1>this angelicus, you know, wise being.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of get that idea. But what's weird about

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<v Speaker 2>it is all of these cultures that share these same

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stories or these same kind of characters. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you could say kind of like you're going for,

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<v Speaker 2>which is in all these cultures there are snakes everywhere, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's something about snakes that are Hawaii people Hawaii

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<v Speaker 2>and New Zealand and those. I don't think there's an

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<v Speaker 2>Ireland either, right, because that one guy he cast them

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<v Speaker 2>all out. He's a he's a saint, he's saint somebody apostrophe.

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<v Speaker 2>He drove all the snakes out of Ireland. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that that's the myths, but snakes but or there

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<v Speaker 2>never were snakes here and he just claimed. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know where there's no snakes here. Saint

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<v Speaker 2>Apostrophe did that, but no, I mean, okay, so you

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<v Speaker 2>could say, yeah, all these cultures have snakes. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them are dangerous, so people revere them and they

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<v Speaker 2>stay away from them because they're creepy, right, yep, slithery,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you can kind of go there. But what

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make sense is that the stories aren't about a

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<v Speaker 2>creature that's scary and poisonous or dangerous. The stories are

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<v Speaker 2>always about a representative of that snake, that is a

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<v Speaker 2>god or a demi god that does something. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is a weird thing that would just dive in

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<v Speaker 2>multiple cultures across the world that are totally separated, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the same unless they have the same kind

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<v Speaker 2>of influence, why would they say the same kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stories and use the the same creature to tell those stories. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's one thing that's really fascinating. And it's not

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<v Speaker 2>just serpents, right, I mean, that's what we closed on

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<v Speaker 2>on our last episode. We talked about these feathered or

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<v Speaker 2>flying serpents and you could call them dragons because other

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<v Speaker 2>cultures are dragons or and if you go to like

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<v Speaker 2>Assyria or Babylon, and they're on the gate, the Ishtar gate.

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<v Speaker 2>There are these they walk, they have legs, but they

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<v Speaker 2>are dragons with a forked tongue. You have a quetzel Quaddal.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that word, I don't know what it means.

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<v Speaker 2>They have quetzel quadal out of South America or the

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<v Speaker 2>Aztecs worship this feathered serpent god who is also a human.

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<v Speaker 2>And so then you've got the whole idea modern times

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<v Speaker 2>of like reptilian shape shifters, right so, and they're always

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<v Speaker 2>like combined with ufo or aliens or transdimensional beings, or

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<v Speaker 2>you could use the old words, which would be gods

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<v Speaker 2>or elohim or the what's the on anaki in which

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<v Speaker 2>is another And they're not even necessarily Reptilian, but they

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<v Speaker 2>are these gods that came and gay man like all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of technology and information that we're supposed to have.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you have the watchers. You have the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>these fallen angels or falling gods that come and cohabit

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<v Speaker 1>Think of as like a I don't know where I

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<v Speaker 1>heard this. It's a weird one. There's like a giant snake.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the Aborigines in Australia, which is like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Australia is far out man. Australia's far at night. You

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they have like I wish I knew the story,

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<v Speaker 1>but like a snake that carved the river through. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a giant snake and they didn't worship it and

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<v Speaker 1>brought like a fire. I'm probably way off, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's crazy that even Australia, which is like weigh

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's it seemed like there was a word in

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<v Speaker 2>the what's his name thor thor in that mythology and

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<v Speaker 2>the Battle of Ragnarok, and there was a giant serpent

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<v Speaker 2>that was able. It was so huge it was able

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<v Speaker 2>and Thor managed to kill it with his hammer Thema.

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<v Speaker 2>because you're the poison of the snake killed him. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe it. I mean, but it's the same kind of

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<v Speaker 2>of story. And you get into Native American stories and

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<v Speaker 2>there are, I mean, there's too many to even begin

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<v Speaker 1>Say a lot of mythology around snakes. Yes, long story, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and not only snakes in mythology, but snakes were so

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<v Speaker 1>important in cultures separated across the world that they were

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to find a way to reconcile it. But

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<v Speaker 2>the serpent creature. And if you can look in Judeo

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<v Speaker 2>Christian traditions, you can look all over the place and

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<v Speaker 2>that character is there, and that's weird. So another another

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<v Speaker 2>thing that's really interesting about this is like in the

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<v Speaker 2>Mesopotamian history and mythologies. So there in the times of

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<v Speaker 2>all these these people that were supposedly very evil, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you have Israel that was supposed to be a

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<v Speaker 2>light to the nations, and they failed miserably most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time. But they go into these areas and they

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<v Speaker 2>were worshiping different gods, and those gods were like Marduke

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<v Speaker 2>and Belle or Baal. They called them the bales, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were often tied to the image of the serpent

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<v Speaker 2>or the snake or the dragon, or coiled.

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<v Speaker 1>Around the image of the serpent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like Marduke and Molek. He's another one. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Molek was like a symbol of He was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>seen as a bowl. But he's also often associated with

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<v Speaker 2>Marduke and Bail. One of their manifestations is a serpent

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<v Speaker 2>or a snake or a dragon like a bull snake. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so one thing weird about all of those Mesopotamian gods,

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<v Speaker 2>they were renowned and known for their child sacrifice mandatess.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have all these people the Philistines, the Canaanites,

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<v Speaker 2>and even the even the Ingdeans that went into the land. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's not talk about Epstein here. But they were sacrificing

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<v Speaker 2>their children in this mullick to this smolet god, and

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<v Speaker 2>they would build this like giant Altar had the head

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<v Speaker 2>belly of this thing and stoke it high, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he had his arms out and they would roll and

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<v Speaker 2>they would roll their daughters and sons down into the

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<v Speaker 2>belly of this and surrender them to the flames. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, so many of these stories are nefarious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're bad, they're bad, they're things. They were not good creatures. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>some serpents were kind of good. They were like in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Asian cultures they were water dragons, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were actually benevolent. They were good, you know, or

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<v Speaker 2>at least they were neutral. They weren't bad or malevolent spiral. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they were fairly good entities, and a lot of times

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<v Speaker 2>the whole concept of a serpent could be a token

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<v Speaker 2>or sign of good luck. Interesting. Yeah, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>different things change in different cultures. But when you get

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<v Speaker 2>to mythology of these dragons, flying serpents, feathered serpents. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of nastiness that surround them. So long story

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<v Speaker 2>short is, there are a lot of weird things on

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<v Speaker 2>rocks that are evidence of mythologies that permeated a culture

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of years ago. And it wasn't just the culture

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<v Speaker 2>of those rocks that we saw, but it was the

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<v Speaker 2>culture of all these societies across the globe that had

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<v Speaker 2>similar narratives and similar characters and similar symbols and similar

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<v Speaker 2>mythologies right at the same time. And that is just

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<v Speaker 2>so fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's something weird about just rocks in general, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's just a material that we

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<v Speaker 1>have available.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they're really hard, yeah, they last a long time

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<v Speaker 2>do But it's what is it about?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you and I were talking about maybe i'd

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<v Speaker 1>come up with a list of.

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<v Speaker 2>Like favorite rocks. Rocks. Yeah, so I came up with

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<v Speaker 2>three that I thought were like real. I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking I was looking forward when we talked about this.

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking forward to finding out what your favorite

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<v Speaker 2>rocks are. Okay, I think there two of them are obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, one of them is you probably have no idea. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the first one and you were talking about how it's.

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<v Speaker 2>All over the world. There, she's weird rocks. Right, is

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<v Speaker 2>stone Hinge? Stonehinge in England? England?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't. I don't know the exact location, like

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<v Speaker 1>what area exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I can narrow it down for you. Okay, it's in

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<v Speaker 2>the United Kingdom UK. All right. I had a teacher

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<v Speaker 2>from the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a welding teacher and he did not drive.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. He's pretty cool. His name was me O Kem.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I think it's fun fact is that, according to

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<v Speaker 1>this little documentary Gilly I was watching and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>doing some little bit of research, is it shrinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of earthworms something? Oh? Sinking? Sinking? Yeah, shrinking, sinking?

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<v Speaker 2>Shrinking would be respective, I guess. Well, we wouldn't know

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<v Speaker 2>if the universe is collapsing because everything would be shrinking

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<v Speaker 2>with it, like you know if you wrote on a balloon, yeah, shrunk. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we would know if it's shrinking, but we would know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's sinking. Yep. Okay, you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, apparently it's sinking like it's slowly like by

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah apparently, so obviously they have to eat decay stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like they take in that carbon or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>and they.

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<v Speaker 2>At the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then apparently it's slowly, like very very slowly,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like a thousand years or something, it'll like

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<v Speaker 1>lose a fool.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm not a freaking wormeologist. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>Stonehenges is a sinking, not shrinking. Stonehinges sinking because of

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<v Speaker 2>earthworm farts.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yep, no, poop poop farts are way different.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's weird that it has a connection to

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<v Speaker 1>like the fairy myth which fairy myths kind of tie

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<v Speaker 1>into a lot of other stuff like UFOs and sasquatch, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And also which we're gonna talk about in the in

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<v Speaker 2>it fairy myths, Native American myths of the cannibal dwarfs,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Native American legends of small fairy like

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<v Speaker 2>hobbit creatures in Native American mythology, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically, so a story that comes to mind about Stonehinge,

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<v Speaker 1>it specifically is in fairy circles is like a thing

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<v Speaker 1>fairy circle fairy circles. Uh, fairies will like kidnapped the

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<v Speaker 1>loved one, yes, and then they will impersonate that loved

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<v Speaker 1>one and you have to kind of best wits with

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<v Speaker 1>this fairy to retrieve the person that you.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to out smart him.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, I'm not like a fairy analogist.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of like Bilbo when he was out witting Galum

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<v Speaker 2>in the Yeah, yes, I guess kind of. No, not

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<v Speaker 2>at all. But they're purposefully.

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<v Speaker 1>Facetious, and they kind of like play tricks, and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>like come to you as somebody, you know, to lure

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<v Speaker 1>you back into someplace, and they want to keep you

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<v Speaker 1>forever unless you can best wits and you can outsmart them.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's been stories of people like seeing a loved

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<v Speaker 1>one in this very realm and actually like which is

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<v Speaker 1>underground and has its own light sources unidentifiable or something,

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<v Speaker 1>but they'll see like somebody who's died in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll come to them and be like, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of here. If you don't get out fast,

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<v Speaker 1>you will be here forever and they'll devour you or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. So that's kind of weird, and Stonehenge

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of those weird things. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>heard a story of a young girl who moved there

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<v Speaker 1>from like Montana, or something stupid, and she actually ended

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<v Speaker 1>up dead near Stonehenge, and they thought because she was

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<v Speaker 1>like dabbling in the occult, that maybe she had gone

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<v Speaker 1>there as a ritualistic thing and maybe that's what that

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<v Speaker 1>whole area was.

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<v Speaker 2>Druids made it to like some kind of spellcasting super structure.

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<v Speaker 1>Something and X ray and sonar kind of investigation of

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<v Speaker 1>that area has kind of revealed it. It seems like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of skeletons around there, oh, like a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>like a burial ground and these are like a gravestones

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<v Speaker 1>almost what.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they call those ground penetrating radar?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe probably, but so.

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<v Speaker 2>It's built on like a cemetery, yeah kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And they said it was only like a holy burial site.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably like higher up people because there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>There's enough to make it like, well, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of dead people here. And they said that there's almost

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty to fifty ratio of men to women, So

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<v Speaker 1>it was like like not only like cultural equality was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty prevalent, but apparently these were like maybe kings and

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<v Speaker 1>queens or you know, they kind of had like a

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know I thought that was cool. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was a lot of information about one of

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<v Speaker 2>your favorites. What's your second favorite rock?

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, I think the next obvious rock cool thing is

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<v Speaker 1>Easter Island.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I did a little research on Easter Island

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<v Speaker 2>because it is really cool, and I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>point out that there is a cave there that has

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<v Speaker 2>petroglyphs or pictographs, I think a little both. That is

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<v Speaker 1>Easter Island's cool because all of the heads face out

420
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<v Speaker 1>towards the ocean around the small island. I think it's

421
00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:37.119
<v Speaker 1>off of like off of Chili. Yes, so Easter Island's

422
00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:39.160
<v Speaker 1>off of Chili. And all of the East Island heads

423
00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:43.119
<v Speaker 1>are facing out towards the ocean except for two and

424
00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:45.519
<v Speaker 1>apparently I don't know what one of them is. It

425
00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't really go into that, but the other ones like

426
00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:53.319
<v Speaker 1>a bearded man and apparently Easter Islands heads actually have

427
00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:58.119
<v Speaker 1>bodies and like their heads are proportionally off compared to

428
00:24:58.119 --> 00:25:01.440
<v Speaker 1>their bodies, but they're all facing out from the ocean.

429
00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Like protect Oh boy, their heads are way too bad.

430
00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're all looking out towards the ocean, like they're

431
00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:09.519
<v Speaker 1>like maybe like watching, and then there's this one that's

432
00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>like kind of bowing and he's like on his knee

433
00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:14.119
<v Speaker 1>and his hands kind of out. He's got a beard.

434
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<v Speaker 2>What's the age of those stone characters? Pretty old?

435
00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the exact date. I had like pretty

436
00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:25.839
<v Speaker 1>good notes on all this stuff and it didn't save Oh.

437
00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know he has good How old are the

438
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Easter Island heads?

439
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:36.400
<v Speaker 6>Five hundred years old? On the website the culturetrip dot com,

440
00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:39.160
<v Speaker 6>they say this is a question of much debate among

441
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:41.720
<v Speaker 6>scholars in the field, although there was a consensus they

442
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:44.480
<v Speaker 6>were built sometime between four hundred and fifteen hundred AD.

443
00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:47.079
<v Speaker 6>That means all the statues are at least five hundred

444
00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:48.480
<v Speaker 6>years old, if not much more.

445
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:51.359
<v Speaker 1>They're pretty old, but not as old as I thought

446
00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:51.839
<v Speaker 1>they would be.

447
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're not like fourteen thousand years old, like thing

448
00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:56.599
<v Speaker 2>down at Winnemuck Lake.

449
00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:59.279
<v Speaker 1>When I'm like, but they are cool, and they're all

450
00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:03.240
<v Speaker 1>facing out, and they're giant and they're disproportionate.

451
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Which I think is cool.

452
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Somebody went through all the effort to move giant stones.

453
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Why would they do that? That's my question. And they've

454
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:12.319
<v Speaker 2>done a like a they're like, there's no way people

455
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:13.279
<v Speaker 2>at this time could have.

456
00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Moved them, but if you carve them, and apparently they

457
00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.880
<v Speaker 1>were able to, like scientists were able to like walk

458
00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:22.519
<v Speaker 1>the statue like I don't know how many, but they

459
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:26.160
<v Speaker 1>were able to like actually shuffle it across land like

460
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it was just walking.

461
00:26:27.079 --> 00:26:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Just wrote just kind of get a little lot balanced

462
00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.880
<v Speaker 2>with like a rope or you know, just don't tip

463
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:35.160
<v Speaker 2>it over, man, it would be allowed. Just don't let

464
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:36.359
<v Speaker 2>fall on your Yeah.

465
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I thought that was cool, and they seem to

466
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.759
<v Speaker 1>me like they were either a representation of a god

467
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:47.440
<v Speaker 1>or maybe an intimidation factor for you know, a people

468
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:49.480
<v Speaker 1>coming in and they were like, oh, that's a big

469
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:50.920
<v Speaker 1>fellow standing on the sand.

470
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:51.240
<v Speaker 3>Right.

471
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:53.200
<v Speaker 2>So if you want to find the mythology of that,

472
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:58.200
<v Speaker 2>you could ascribe something like the Watchers to what those

473
00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:02.559
<v Speaker 2>might symbolize, because the why were always looking out for humanity.

474
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:06.160
<v Speaker 2>So even like as bad as it as it was,

475
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:10.880
<v Speaker 2>you remember the movie with Russell Crowe Noah Noah, and

476
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:14.119
<v Speaker 2>they had those rock giants, That's what those were. They

477
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 2>were the Watchers. And in the Book of Enoch, which

478
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:21.599
<v Speaker 2>is not official reading material, it never was canonized and

479
00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:24.319
<v Speaker 2>put in the Bible, but it's referred to in the Bible,

480
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:26.319
<v Speaker 2>so it existed at the time that some of the

481
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.640
<v Speaker 2>writers were writing. But they talked about the Watchers, which

482
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:33.960
<v Speaker 2>were these angelic beings or gods, these e looking that

483
00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:38.839
<v Speaker 2>left their estate and they basically were assigned a region

484
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.160
<v Speaker 2>of people to protect and to watch over. That's why

485
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:43.160
<v Speaker 2>they have the name Watchers.

486
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:48.200
<v Speaker 3>The Creator formed us on the second Day, the day

487
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:52.519
<v Speaker 3>he named the heavens. We watched over out oft the eve,

488
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 3>saw their frailty and their love, and then we saw therefore,

489
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:03.519
<v Speaker 3>and we pitied. We were once owned them, but light

490
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:08.680
<v Speaker 3>it was not our place to interfere. Yet we chose

491
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:12.079
<v Speaker 3>to try and help and kind and when we disobeyed

492
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:21.920
<v Speaker 3>the Creator, he punished us. We were encrusted by your world.

493
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.720
<v Speaker 2>So it's really strange to me that now you are

494
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.039
<v Speaker 2>talking about one of your favorite rock formations in the

495
00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:33.640
<v Speaker 2>middle of this island outside of Chili, and there's giant

496
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 2>heads that probably are associated with these same potential historic legends.

497
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Probably potentially potentially, I mean from my I'm not a

498
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>professional total hack, right, we've talked about this, but from

499
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.599
<v Speaker 2>my hack in my brain, it sounds like that's a

500
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.880
<v Speaker 2>really good mess. It sounds good, Yeah, looks good on paper.

501
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:54.319
<v Speaker 2>It looks good on paper, and it fits.

502
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Another thing I thought was cool is that the Easter

503
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Island area seems like uninhabited, but through some equation and

504
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 1>mathematical and historical references they can find that there was

505
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it was like sweet potatoes or something that

506
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>you're there about actually, and there could have been like

507
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good population.

508
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 2>I wish I had more now. So was it like,

509
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:21.640
<v Speaker 2>were they like agricultural they would actually like think they

510
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:25.000
<v Speaker 2>were like farming or were they just leaners? I think

511
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.079
<v Speaker 2>they were farming. That's crazy.

512
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 1>But it was only five hundred years ago.

513
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Well they said five hundred two. You're almost one ad

514
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.599
<v Speaker 2>to five hundred, so I mean that could be anywhere

515
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:37.039
<v Speaker 2>up to two thousand years ago.

516
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's pretty darn old anyway. So that one's kind

517
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>of weird, and it like fairy circles weird, but it

518
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.359
<v Speaker 1>looks like just a bunch of rocks. Easter Island's kind

519
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>of weird because it's a lot of effort. I mean,

520
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 1>could you imagine scratching all these pretty in depth faces

521
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:59.079
<v Speaker 1>with detail and not even and you know, like that's

522
00:29:59.079 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 1>pretty intense.

523
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's weird.

524
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 1>My third one, last one, You're welcome, guys, is uh.

525
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>It's at Dry Fork Canyon in Utah, and I had

526
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:12.119
<v Speaker 1>to poke around all over. I was actually looking for

527
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:13.759
<v Speaker 1>a different one and I found this one. I was like,

528
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:21.039
<v Speaker 1>that's my new favorite. It's got giant horned monsters holding

529
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>decapitated heads of humans with with with with with crying faces, yes,

530
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and and they're big human like monsters just pulling people apart.

531
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>There's one where like a head is next to like

532
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>a foot, and it's like it's pretty messed up. And

533
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.960
<v Speaker 1>they got big old heads like Easter Island, which which

534
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:43.519
<v Speaker 1>made me kind of make that leap And I thought

535
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:47.079
<v Speaker 1>that was gross and weird. And maybe it's an it's

536
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:52.119
<v Speaker 1>a prospective thing, like maybe it's symbolic like the other

537
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 1>tribe or the other group of people that lived here

538
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>were superior and they killed us all and they cut

539
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>off our heads. And that's why the bigger in the paintings,

540
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>because the winner's write history, right.

541
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 2>So do you see those as petroglyphs or pictographs? I

542
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>think they're I think they were pecked to pic to peppers.

543
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 2>I think there are pictographs. I think they are pictographs,

544
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:16.559
<v Speaker 2>but I said rocks. Yes, no, I you know, it's

545
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:18.599
<v Speaker 2>really weird that you say that, because I was looking

546
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:20.279
<v Speaker 2>at part of what we were going to talk about

547
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:24.119
<v Speaker 2>in a little bit, these cannibals, and that was one

548
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:27.200
<v Speaker 2>of the references that came up in this canyon because

549
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:32.640
<v Speaker 2>they're decapitated and there are these weird kind of manifestations

550
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:35.440
<v Speaker 2>of like humanoid creatures there. You know, they could be

551
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 2>skin walkers or you know, who knows what they're referring to.

552
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>They could be the shaman. But it's really weird that

553
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:43.039
<v Speaker 2>that came up as one of the searches. And now

554
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about you got that one. Yeah, yeah, it's

555
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:48.319
<v Speaker 2>totally Yeah, it was one of the ones I came

556
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:53.000
<v Speaker 2>up with Nine Mile Canyon, the Skinwalker Native American witch

557
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.559
<v Speaker 2>mythos crazy. Yeah, I put it there just for that.

558
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Here's another so I guess there's around uh Skinwalker Ranch,

559
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>which is which is I've heard that I couldn't find

560
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>any online. Another one that the mythology of Skinwalker Ranch

561
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>in that area between the two tribes, that one of

562
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:16.559
<v Speaker 1>them they will not even look at that direction of

563
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Speaker 1>the ranch because of the curse that was put on

564
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>there in the Skinwalker, but we'll get into Skinwalker's here.

565
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.359
<v Speaker 1>So the last one I found is a half one.

566
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.359
<v Speaker 1>This is a co worker. Grew up around Oregon. Okay,

567
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:32.039
<v Speaker 1>I think it's right on the border of Oregon and California.

568
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 1>There's a lava bed there and there's this Petrick pet

569
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>peck pecker ticker and it's a scratchy one. And on

570
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:51.559
<v Speaker 1>this scratchy one Petrick Pecker I think they call it

571
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Petrick Glyff Point.

572
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:53.759
<v Speaker 2>And it's right on the.

573
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Edge of this big lava bed like craters of the

574
00:32:56.480 --> 00:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>moon for you, you know, and Idaho people. It's like, it

575
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>looks like a moon scene. It's just weird rolling craters,

576
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>volcanic swirly rocks and craters.

577
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

578
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:14.319
<v Speaker 1>But on this picture pector is Petrick Petrick glyph is

579
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>these scratches, and they thought it was Native American, and

580
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>then through more recent research they they're starting to think

581
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:26.839
<v Speaker 1>it's Norse like Viking, like one of the earliest Viking

582
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 1>contacts with the US with the Americans.

583
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, weird.

584
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I thought that was really cool. But I

585
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:35.039
<v Speaker 1>was trying to track it down and he's like, is

586
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>this small thing there's a big sign when you get there.

587
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>But I couldn't remember exactly the location and I was

588
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to use like keywords that he had given me.

589
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, if we can find it, I'll put it up

590
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.359
<v Speaker 2>on the website, which you know I should say here

591
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:51.160
<v Speaker 2>because it's a perfect moment. Yeah, go to our website.

592
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Check it out. I've been putting these little blog posts

593
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>that support each one of our episodes. So go there.

594
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>We have links to a lot of what we talked about. Cool. Okay,

595
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 2>my turn for my favorite rocks. So one of my

596
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.519
<v Speaker 2>first favorites, probably because I grew up in the area

597
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:13.400
<v Speaker 2>and I saw it all the time, is Balanced Rock.

598
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 2>This is outside of a hall Stride ho. It's just

599
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:20.719
<v Speaker 2>this weird kind of almost like a golf club kind

600
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:24.239
<v Speaker 2>of top rock. That's huge. I think I've talked about

601
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:26.280
<v Speaker 2>it last Yeah, and it's just kind of it's on

602
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:30.000
<v Speaker 2>this small base and it sticks up like a giant

603
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:33.880
<v Speaker 2>golf club head and there are pictures of people like

604
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:35.800
<v Speaker 2>on the top of it playing cards.

605
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it was like a professional rock climber.

606
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 2>And you know what was really sad is this has

607
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:46.480
<v Speaker 2>probably been thirty years ago. Forty years ago somebody tried

608
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:49.440
<v Speaker 2>to blow it up and knock it over and they

609
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.159
<v Speaker 2>did some damage to it, but it didn't fall and

610
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.280
<v Speaker 2>it Yeah, so they came in with some like concrete

611
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 2>type stuff and they tried to shore it up because

612
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.760
<v Speaker 2>it is kind of a tourist still there drawing yet.

613
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:03.880
<v Speaker 2>That's one of my favorite places to camp. Yeah, you

614
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:05.639
<v Speaker 2>can fish in that. They have a little park, you

615
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>can camp, you can fish, you can hike.

616
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Like a sea saw and yeah, little playground and stuff

617
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:13.679
<v Speaker 1>in the bathroom.

618
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.320
<v Speaker 2>And it's a unique area. It's really kind of cool

619
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.760
<v Speaker 2>and just just you know, if you're ever in that

620
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 2>neck of the woods. Close by are the Hagerman fossil beds,

621
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.559
<v Speaker 2>so there are all kinds of dinosaur bones that are

622
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, dug up there and it's an ongoing kind

623
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>of excavation there. Ye. And it's a fun place to go.

624
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:34.280
<v Speaker 2>So if you're ever in that area of Idaho, check

625
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:36.360
<v Speaker 2>it out. It's a cool thing. And if you don't

626
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:38.519
<v Speaker 2>want to go to Idaho, I don't blame you. I'll

627
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:41.159
<v Speaker 2>put pictures on our website. Yeah, that's a good time.

628
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:45.440
<v Speaker 2>So that's my that's one of my favorite Idaho It sucks, Yeah,

629
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>don't come here. We're on the whole place is nobody

630
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 2>should come here because it's gross and nobody wants to

631
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.239
<v Speaker 2>be here, and we you know, we suffer through it.

632
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:59.119
<v Speaker 2>But if you come here, you'll hate it. So my

633
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:04.480
<v Speaker 2>favorite rock is Rainbow Bridge. You have to get there

634
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:09.039
<v Speaker 2>by going on Lake Powell in southern Utah. Yeah, I've

635
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:12.000
<v Speaker 2>been there with you. Yeah. Yeah. So if you get

636
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:13.639
<v Speaker 2>on there and you're actually I think you're probably in

637
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Arizona when you get to Rainbow Bridge. But it's just

638
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.480
<v Speaker 2>an arch and the only way to get there is

639
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:23.920
<v Speaker 2>to go on this lake. And Lake Powell is amazingly huge.

640
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:28.079
<v Speaker 2>It's long, with lots of channels that kind of feed

641
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:31.480
<v Speaker 2>into it. So there's a lot of like I guess

642
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:34.440
<v Speaker 2>you would call it beachline, but a lot of it

643
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.400
<v Speaker 2>is you're going up these little narrow canyons in the water.

644
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:39.639
<v Speaker 1>It's like fingering out all directions.

645
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a sun rape. Yeah. It's really a cool lake,

646
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's hot. It's really hot down there, and there's

647
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of petroglyphs down in that area too. So

648
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:53.199
<v Speaker 2>if you go down in that area, you have to go.

649
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it's about twenty five miles by boat. Wow,

650
00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:59.960
<v Speaker 2>and there's a little place where you can dock your boat.

651
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Little dock there and you can walk in. It's probably

652
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:08.000
<v Speaker 2>another mile. And there is this bridge made of rock.

653
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:10.679
<v Speaker 1>It's just an arch like a natural bridge.

654
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:13.320
<v Speaker 2>And it's called Rainbow Bridge. And we went there with

655
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 2>some good friends of ours and explored Lake Powell. And

656
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, that whole area is so cool. I mean

657
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:23.280
<v Speaker 2>southern Utah and Arizona and New Mexico.

658
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Zion National National Park and Park Art I meant, but

659
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Rocks canyon Lands.

660
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is is weird. It is so cool and

661
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I think you could live your whole life there and

662
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.800
<v Speaker 2>never run out of things to look at. But anyway,

663
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 2>that was a that's a really cool one for me.

664
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I know there are other places, but as far as

665
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:46.760
<v Speaker 2>the ones that I have seen, those are like my favorite.

666
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Thore stuck out.

667
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I haven't seen any of the ones that I

668
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.880
<v Speaker 1>spoke of, but I just I think it'd be cool

669
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 1>to see those, especially because two of.

670
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:58.639
<v Speaker 2>Them are not on the continent. Right. Yeah, it would

671
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 2>be fun to go to Easter Island.

672
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Ding anyway, it would be fun to go to Easter Island. Yeah,

673
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:08.199
<v Speaker 1>it'd be fun to take some motorcycles over there because

674
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that area is like much more you know,

675
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>luckily and roly and green and lush.

676
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Looking at it from you know, Google Earth, it's not

677
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:22.039
<v Speaker 2>very big. No, it's it's just I mean it's I

678
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:23.519
<v Speaker 2>don't think it's as big as Hawaii.

679
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 1>So I work with some like a Hungarian guy.

680
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:27.880
<v Speaker 2>His name's Attila.

681
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I call him Attila the hunt Hungarian, and he's super cool,

682
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the nicest people in the world. He lived

683
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:39.599
<v Speaker 1>in a castle with his family. Like he's straight up European.

684
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>But I always make fun of It's like you can

685
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:50.480
<v Speaker 1>go from Boise to Nampa and be in a different country.

686
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can be.

687
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now we got to speak a different language. We

688
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:57.039
<v Speaker 1>use different money now because we went on a freeway

689
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.079
<v Speaker 1>for an hour, two hours.

690
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.920
<v Speaker 2>And you're off your country. Ear.

691
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like the Eastern States of the US.

692
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like tiny, tiny, tiny, that's like their whole area. Yeah,

693
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and then Russia gigant on all of Siberia we have,

694
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 1>do you guys like small?

695
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:24.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

696
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Any Let's get back to our rocks. Yeah, we're off

697
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:30.559
<v Speaker 2>We get off track all the time. So before we

698
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:33.320
<v Speaker 2>went down to our favorite rocks, what were we talking about.

699
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:36.239
<v Speaker 2>So let's just reel all the way back. Let's go

700
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:39.400
<v Speaker 2>back to where we were talking about petroglyphs, and we

701
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:41.599
<v Speaker 2>were talking about this. You know, we had the dragons

702
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:43.079
<v Speaker 2>and the serpents and that kind of stuff that are

703
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.039
<v Speaker 2>on these these rocks all over the world. We were

704
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of going to launch into other things that are

705
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:53.519
<v Speaker 2>on these rocks that are also like dragons, serpents are

706
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 2>all over the place. And one of those that I

707
00:39:56.320 --> 00:40:00.079
<v Speaker 2>thought was really weird. There are on these rocks. And

708
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.480
<v Speaker 2>let's just say, in the Americas a lot of these

709
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:09.840
<v Speaker 2>weird humanoid characters symbols. Some of them look like aliens,

710
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:13.000
<v Speaker 2>some of them look like giants, some of them look

711
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 2>like Bigfoot, some of them look like horned creatures from

712
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:20.280
<v Speaker 2>outer space. Some of them look like reptilians. I mean,

713
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.480
<v Speaker 2>it's just weird. A lot of them look like chimeras.

714
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.360
<v Speaker 2>They'll have wings, or they'll they'll have horns, or they're

715
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:29.880
<v Speaker 2>animal characters, right, And so these things populate a lot

716
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:33.719
<v Speaker 2>of the petroglyphs that you see in the Americas, but

717
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 2>they also are frequently seen in other rock art formations

718
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:48.039
<v Speaker 2>throughout the world. In Egypt, Is, Syria, Babylon, Mesopotamia, Africa, Asia,

719
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:52.519
<v Speaker 2>The same kind of things keep coming up, and that

720
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:56.559
<v Speaker 2>is really a weird thing. So one of those things,

721
00:40:56.599 --> 00:41:01.440
<v Speaker 2>besides the serpents and the dragons, are the depictions of

722
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:03.960
<v Speaker 2>what a lot of people believe are shaman and holymen.

723
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.480
<v Speaker 2>But really, you know, nobody really knows for sure, right,

724
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:11.239
<v Speaker 2>you have no way, you can't ask somebody. No, it's like,

725
00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:15.320
<v Speaker 2>this is this weird chimera. Is it symbolic of of

726
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:18.559
<v Speaker 2>your shaman, of your tribe, or is this actually saying

727
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:21.599
<v Speaker 2>something about some mythological creature?

728
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Right?

729
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:26.239
<v Speaker 2>And Native American cultures are right with all kinds of

730
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 2>mythological creatures. So I thought it'd be fun because some

731
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:34.440
<v Speaker 2>of these depictions could be those characters that we talk about.

732
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Some of those One of those that people talk about

733
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:42.320
<v Speaker 2>are the Native American legends of water babies. You have

734
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:43.199
<v Speaker 2>you heard about these?

735
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think when we were talking about the podcast,

736
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:47.719
<v Speaker 1>that was one of the ones I wanted to do

737
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:51.159
<v Speaker 1>that you brought up, Yeah, because they're they're they're fairly

738
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>close to where we are, these water baby mythologies. Yeah, yeah,

739
00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:59.280
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, that was one of the first things I

740
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do as water babies and it seems creepy,

741
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:05.760
<v Speaker 1>but it has the word baby in it, so I'm like, yeah,

742
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not scared of you.

743
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.840
<v Speaker 2>So, so what is your understanding of what water babies

744
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:12.880
<v Speaker 2>are as far as their mythology or legend.

745
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I think they're kind of almost like impish or like

746
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>elve like the fairies that I was talking about. They're

747
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:24.840
<v Speaker 1>like almost pranksty or like the black eyed children. They're

748
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:27.400
<v Speaker 1>deceptive and they want to lure you, and they want

749
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:31.039
<v Speaker 1>to guide you into into something, into like another realm, and.

750
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Their endgame is to lead away children or people by

751
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:41.679
<v Speaker 2>pretending to be young infants like black black eyed children. Yeah,

752
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:44.119
<v Speaker 2>or you could almost take it to like the idea

753
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:49.840
<v Speaker 2>of mermaids and syreens. Yeah whatever. They are the creatures

754
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:53.719
<v Speaker 2>that call you towards a body water. Yeah yeah, man,

755
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:57.440
<v Speaker 2>And like you think somebody's in trouble, a child's drowning,

756
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:02.760
<v Speaker 2>and you go to rescue them, and then lo and behold,

757
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:05.400
<v Speaker 2>they lure you out and take you and drown you

758
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:10.639
<v Speaker 2>in the upside. In the Indian Native American legends, they

759
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:13.719
<v Speaker 2>would tell these stories to warn children basically, I think,

760
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 2>to stay away from the water.

761
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense, that sounds yeah, Yeah, water's dangerous, especially

762
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:21.800
<v Speaker 1>if you don't know how to hold your breath and

763
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:22.599
<v Speaker 1>or swim.

764
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:24.920
<v Speaker 2>But you know what's weird about it is this is

765
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:29.159
<v Speaker 2>not a mythology that is unique to Native American culture.

766
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:33.039
<v Speaker 2>You find the same thing and well, what's a famous

767
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:37.440
<v Speaker 2>one children of lick Corn. I don't know what so

768
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:41.920
<v Speaker 2>good to Ireland? What do they have up the leprecauns?

769
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 2>You have the little leprechaun people keep you away from water. Well, no, no,

770
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 2>that they're not specifically water, but they're leprechauns and fairies

771
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:54.000
<v Speaker 2>and and things water nymphs that that tempt you to

772
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:57.920
<v Speaker 2>go towards the water, and you know, water's dangerous. People drowned,

773
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:04.000
<v Speaker 2>They don't drown. The get grouped in witch by which

774
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:09.159
<v Speaker 2>but girls, I thought we were on the train of kids.

775
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you taking the kid train. I was taking

776
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:18.159
<v Speaker 2>the water fairy train. Okay, you can have the old

777
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:22.320
<v Speaker 2>water fairies known as mermaids, or you can have the

778
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:27.880
<v Speaker 2>young baby water babies. But anyway, their end results is

779
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:32.639
<v Speaker 2>the same people drown right. The same thing happens when

780
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:36.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, like people that were floating in big boats

781
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:39.760
<v Speaker 2>across the ocean and they had the legends of the

782
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 2>mermaids that would you know, sirens that would tempt people

783
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.199
<v Speaker 2>to join them and they would drown them. So it's

784
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:50.000
<v Speaker 2>the same kind of weirdness, But I can almost understand

785
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:53.960
<v Speaker 2>the origin of those mythologies as a practical one, unlike

786
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:57.559
<v Speaker 2>maybe like the dragons and the serpents that have a

787
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:00.760
<v Speaker 2>different kind of like thing where people come from outer

788
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:03.519
<v Speaker 2>space or they come from another dimension or their gods

789
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:05.639
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Right, I mean that's a little different than

790
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 2>like water namps, yeah, or mermaids specifically.

791
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.039
<v Speaker 1>You have let's say, I don't know how many people

792
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:17.119
<v Speaker 1>ran a normal ship right with sails. It was a

793
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:21.079
<v Speaker 1>it was a heavy duty, rough and tough group of dudes. Yeah,

794
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:24.840
<v Speaker 1>probably not a lot of female interaction. And I don't

795
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:31.559
<v Speaker 1>know if you know anything about dudes, but their female driven.

796
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:33.320
<v Speaker 2>So it wouldn't.

797
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Surprise me if like people legitimately went insane and that

798
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, well they saw a mermaid, they saw a

799
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:40.760
<v Speaker 1>woman in the water.

800
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:44.639
<v Speaker 2>They were going that was their hallucination. Yeah, it was

801
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:47.280
<v Speaker 2>like some kind of like and how they met their demise. Well,

802
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:49.679
<v Speaker 2>you think about these people out of boats, they end

803
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:53.800
<v Speaker 2>up out in the middle of the Ocean's gay wind stops. Yeah,

804
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:57.800
<v Speaker 2>no hotter, no propulsion and humid. Where can they go?

805
00:45:57.920 --> 00:45:59.559
<v Speaker 2>What can they do? So they sit out there and

806
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:06.280
<v Speaker 2>they lay anguish and these dead, windless, calm ocean they

807
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:10.119
<v Speaker 2>can't go anywhere man. And then so you know, food

808
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:15.800
<v Speaker 2>is a is a commodity that is limited, and people

809
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:19.599
<v Speaker 2>are longing for companionship other you know, their loved ones

810
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:20.039
<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

811
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:23.039
<v Speaker 1>I want you to play the song cabin Fever from

812
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Muppet Treasure Island Kevin.

813
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:47.360
<v Speaker 5>Day so long.

814
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's good. So they I mean, I can understand

815
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:00.559
<v Speaker 2>the origin of the whole idea of Mermaid and stuff

816
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.199
<v Speaker 2>and how they You know, you go out there long enough,

817
00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 2>you might start having and you're malnourished, way dehyded.

818
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:11.159
<v Speaker 1>They had to have been. You can't carry that much

819
00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:14.800
<v Speaker 1>water along with all the food, along with all of

820
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the stuff you're supposed to be transporting.

821
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Yep. On land, you know, kids go out and they drown.

822
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.360
<v Speaker 2>They run away Mom and dad's not watching, and so

823
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:27.320
<v Speaker 2>they run away and they're out there by the and

824
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:29.000
<v Speaker 2>then they fall in. And then what do they do?

825
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:32.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, they make up stories they to blame this

826
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:35.360
<v Speaker 2>tragedy on. You know, they could easily come up with

827
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.280
<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. So we have water babies and

828
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:41.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe some of the petroglyphs depict that kind of nefarious

829
00:47:41.559 --> 00:47:42.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of creature.

830
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:42.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

831
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Another one would be the skinwalker. Full another topic. Yeah,

832
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:51.280
<v Speaker 2>and so the skin walker. We could do a whole

833
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:54.280
<v Speaker 2>episode or maybe even a series on the idea of

834
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.840
<v Speaker 2>the skin walker, which is basically a witch who has

835
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:01.800
<v Speaker 2>the ability to basically cast a spell that allows them

836
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 2>to become kind of this weird creature that takes on

837
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:08.519
<v Speaker 2>the powers of like an.

838
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<v Speaker 1>Animal, very often a cannibalistic aspect.

839
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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, like a like a wolf or something that

840
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<v Speaker 2>will eat humans as protein. Now that's interesting to me

841
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<v Speaker 2>because that is also a lot of the kind of

842
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:27.920
<v Speaker 2>mythology that you find surrounding these you know, like we

843
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<v Speaker 2>talked a little bit about the Watchers that came from

844
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:33.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, the gods that came out and had offspring.

845
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<v Speaker 2>That offspring was often noted as being cannibalistic, and if

846
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:45.599
<v Speaker 2>not cannibalistic, they would be extremely violent towards humanity. Crazy, Yeah,

847
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:48.880
<v Speaker 2>just totally violent that we just kill them. They would

848
00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:52.119
<v Speaker 2>kill them like we kill rock chunks or gophers, you know,

849
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:53.639
<v Speaker 2>just go out for fun and just kill a bunch

850
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:56.679
<v Speaker 2>of humans today. Yeah, so, I mean that's kind of

851
00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:58.840
<v Speaker 2>the legend that so I find it interesting in the

852
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:04.320
<v Speaker 2>legends of skinwalkers that they're like cannibalistic and they go

853
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:08.280
<v Speaker 2>after and assume the power of whatever creature that they're

854
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 2>walking in the skin of and then take out humans. Right,

855
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:14.599
<v Speaker 2>I've heard, I've heard.

856
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<v Speaker 1>So it's weird that you bring it up a podcast

857
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<v Speaker 1>that I really like that.

858
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:24.320
<v Speaker 2>He actually just did a Skinwalker Ranch. Oh, a Skinwalker Ranch. Yeah, episode.

859
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I just I just watched that whole series on web

860
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.079
<v Speaker 2>was it Annie or whatever. It's pretty good. It was

861
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's creepy, it's weird what goes on there,

862
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:34.519
<v Speaker 2>but you kind of see they get into like this,

863
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<v Speaker 2>well anyway, I don't want to talk about that.

864
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but anyway, this guy Dan Cummins. The podcast is

865
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<v Speaker 1>called Time Suck, Time Suck. Yeah, it's really good. It's

866
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:44.199
<v Speaker 1>an awesome part one.

867
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Of my it might be my favorite, but we almost

868
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:50.400
<v Speaker 2>like it better than ourselves. But go ahead, he.

869
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Goes over everything. This is why it's on my mind.

870
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.840
<v Speaker 1>You brought it up totally innocently. But if I remember, right,

871
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:01.079
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of Native and stories that are

872
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:04.400
<v Speaker 1>like this like another one that he did previously, the

873
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<v Speaker 1>wind to go basically like in a way to recapture

874
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:13.920
<v Speaker 1>their humanity to eat after becoming a witch and after

875
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:17.719
<v Speaker 1>becoming is evil, they can't satisfy their hunger for their

876
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:19.400
<v Speaker 1>human flesh, for their density.

877
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:23.760
<v Speaker 2>So, okay, just parallel to that. Okay, so the story

878
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<v Speaker 2>of you know that Jesus talks about in biblical narrative

879
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:34.679
<v Speaker 2>about disembodied spirits, and so they are disembodied spirits that

880
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:39.840
<v Speaker 2>long for the ability to have a body again to inhabit.

881
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 2>And so they're basically like the skinwalker, they're longing to

882
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:48.239
<v Speaker 2>be human again. They're longing to be inside of a

883
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:52.840
<v Speaker 2>body that is solid. And it's the same kind of

884
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:54.920
<v Speaker 2>thing It talks about these evil spirits that they don't

885
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 2>have a body, so they possess another body, and then

886
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:02.760
<v Speaker 2>when they're cast out of that body, it hurts, it's

887
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:05.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's a painful situation. So they try

888
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:08.760
<v Speaker 2>to find a place to go. And I wonder, you know,

889
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:11.280
<v Speaker 2>that's a very similar kind of thought. So in a

890
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:12.880
<v Speaker 2>skin walker, the.

891
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Human, you're searching for a human and that's why they

892
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:22.159
<v Speaker 1>take on these forms of wolves or whatever animals around

893
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.159
<v Speaker 1>similar to the pigs that run.

894
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Off, So, which is really cool. You got there. I

895
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:32.760
<v Speaker 2>just got goosebumps. Disembodied spirits looking for a habitation for

896
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:38.039
<v Speaker 2>their spirit, right, that is the same narrative as we

897
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:41.239
<v Speaker 2>talked about in one of our first podcasts and cattle mulations.

898
00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:46.360
<v Speaker 2>It's like, what would you do to be able to

899
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:51.559
<v Speaker 2>be inside of a body or a tent for your spirit?

900
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Once you get there, then you're like Bigfoot. You're talking

901
00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:01.079
<v Speaker 2>about grays, you're talking about blues, you're talking about repattillions,

902
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:04.280
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about the ability to put a spirit in

903
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:09.760
<v Speaker 2>a body, in a biological suit, biological suit. It's basically

904
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:13.960
<v Speaker 2>a skin walker. Yeah, And a lot of people speculate

905
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:18.719
<v Speaker 2>there's Bigfoot, a lot of cattle mutilations at skin Mark Range.

906
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I believe, yes, and just around Bigfoot in all those things.

907
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:27.079
<v Speaker 2>And it's always connected to UFOs, which is always connected

908
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:30.639
<v Speaker 2>to some kind of like sexual organ kind of experimentation

909
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:35.559
<v Speaker 2>or reproductive organs that are kind of it's almost like

910
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:39.159
<v Speaker 2>people are or something not people. Something is trying to

911
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:44.000
<v Speaker 2>create a livable body for a disembodied spirit or skin walker.

912
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm just throwing out there because we're

913
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:49.079
<v Speaker 2>right there. You know, this is one of the things

914
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:52.079
<v Speaker 2>we talked about, and it is something that you know,

915
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:54.519
<v Speaker 2>even if you're a big Foot enthusiast or if you're

916
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:58.440
<v Speaker 2>somebody who talks about these other things UFOs, cattle mutilations.

917
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:00.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, when you get into the paranormals side, or

918
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.599
<v Speaker 2>you get to the transdimensional side, and then you kind

919
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:06.280
<v Speaker 2>of marry in a little bit of this, you know,

920
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:10.639
<v Speaker 2>the mythology of like disembodied spirits or watchers or Nephelim

921
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:13.679
<v Speaker 2>or rafam or whatever you want to do, the Anunaki.

922
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:17.639
<v Speaker 2>It's like, all of a sudden, all of these creatures

923
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:19.840
<v Speaker 2>are looking for the same thing, which is they're looking

924
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:29.039
<v Speaker 2>for a physical home for their spirits. Weird. This is weird.

925
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, this is Mike, and I'm cutting in here

926
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:40.679
<v Speaker 2>because the conversation on this topic kept going and going

927
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:43.199
<v Speaker 2>to the tune of two and a half hours, and

928
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:46.519
<v Speaker 2>rather than losing some of that content, we've decided to

929
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:48.960
<v Speaker 2>cut this episode in half. We're going to pick up

930
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.559
<v Speaker 2>next time right here and continue this conversation onto its

931
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:56.360
<v Speaker 2>climactic finish, and it's only going to get weirder, stranger,

932
00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:59.199
<v Speaker 2>and funner from here on. Out. I guess funner is

933
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:03.800
<v Speaker 2>a word. Anyway, until next time, keep it strange, taters.