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Speaker 2: Don't Joanna I thank don't jawana wan i sank go,

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Speaker 3: It doesn't keep me up at night, but it helps

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Speaker 4: This is John Fulbright.

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Speaker 5: Hi.

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Speaker 6: This is jar Williams.

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Speaker 7: Hi.

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Speaker 5: This is Mitch Margle of the Tokens.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 8: This is Gary Us Bonds mad here on the Rock

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Speaker 9: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Rock and Roll History

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Show on Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian Horowitz. This week

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we're gonna help you recover from your hangover from last

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week's alcohol show. We got lots of coffee lined up.

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Plus I think a lot of people need it for

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the start of the school year if you're not back

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at school yet, and you will be pretty soon, so

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full disclosure. Usually I do drink coffee while we're recording.

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This week, I'm having the old fashion that I couldn't

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have last week, so I'm legging behind. So we'll see

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how it goes tonight. As always, before we hop in,

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allow me to introduce us all the cranbones joining us

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here tonight. First and foremost, from the Richter Observatory, he says,

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rolling out of bed is easy. Getting up off the

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floor is hard, Neil.

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Speaker 4: Right, Ain't that the truth? Ain't that that's truth? And

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let me let me just say yeah, No, sanka decaf no, No,

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that's not coffee. No, that's just that's sad brown water.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 9: I remember my grandmother specifically ordering sanka like if we

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went out to eat, And that is the last I've

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ever seen or heard of it. So yeah, no, I

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don't know why that was the thing.

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Speaker 4: And it shouldn't be.

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Speaker 9: It shouldn't be. I would agree with you there.

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Speaker 4: But how are you doing, everybody? I'm well caffeinated today,

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so I'm ready to get.

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Speaker 9: Good from paranormal yours. She bought a new pair of

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pants made entirely of spider silk, but the fly keeps

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getting stuck. L Nuklem's here, good, one good, and our

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official teacher is here. As the school year begins, he

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child prooved his classroom, but the kids still seem to

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keep getting in. John Kelly is back. Hey, everybody, I'm

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doing my best, but they is. I can't stop him.

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Speaker 10: I don't know why.

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Speaker 9: Hey, Last, but not least, the host of shaving cream,

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the guy from the furniture store keeps calling her, but

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all she wanted was one night stand. Barbara deal is here.

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Speaker 6: Well that's it.

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Speaker 1: You got me, all right? Hey everyone, Now, now I'm

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like fixated on where the name Senka comes from.

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Speaker 9: San cafe without caffeine.

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Speaker 11: Sounds ow.

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Speaker 7: See that.

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to remember the name of the guy that

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was in the commercial. Yeah, wasn't it Robert somebody or other?

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Speaker 4: I should remember because oh, yeah, he played the Marcus Welby.

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He played Marcus Welby. Oh, Robert Young, Robert Young, thank you? Okay,

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that is yeah.

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Speaker 9: I just remember the hot water and it was a

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little brown and orange packet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you put the one in the glass jar with

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the orange leer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Why why?

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Speaker 9: I don't get it.

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Speaker 4: It makes no sense. I don't know.

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Speaker 9: Do they still make it?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: There was big was that seventies and it was in

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the seventies into the eighties. Yeah, And I just can't

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say I've seen it since. Doesn't mean it's not there,

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but I've never looked for it.

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Speaker 5: It's like tang, you know it's there, you go it suddenly.

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It kind of dawned on me that nineteen seventy five

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was over fifty years ago.

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Speaker 6: Isn't that depressing?

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Speaker 9: It's totally depressing.

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Speaker 4: I was already out of high school by then. John, Yeah, yeah, yeah, well.

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Speaker 9: You know they'll go to reality. Yeah yeah, I guess so.

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Speaker 4: I guess. I wasn't drinking sanka then either.

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Speaker 9: Let me tell you anyway.

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Speaker 5: You know, I was thinking of having a little coffee tonight,

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of the Irish kind. However, I have the ingredients, of course,

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but I figured i'd better when it's my turn to

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do my selection that I'm more lucid.

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Speaker 1: I just looked up Senka in my shop right app

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and it's there, Okay, I.

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Speaker 6: Looked it up online.

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Speaker 9: Is it like new old stock that they stopped making

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in nineteen eighty four that they're trying to unload. There's

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a joke that if you put instant coffee in a microwave,

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you go back in time. I don't know who wrote it,

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instant coffee in micro clave, yeah, because it's not instant

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never mind, Okay, I didn't write it, so I can't

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take the blame for it.

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Speaker 4: The question I need more, I wi I've you know,

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reached and recoiled in horror when i've you know, it's

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it's been decaf, and I'm like it actually decaf costs

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more than regular coffee. Yeah, you get nothing and you

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pay more for it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, really processing marketing and I've I've turned into a

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complete coffee snob. I'm sure everybody else has as time

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goes on. Yeah, you know when you have real kna

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from Hawaii or Jamaica blue like and I've got I've

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been drinking it black for years. So you can't hide

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bad coffee, you know, with the milk and the sugar

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and all all that. When you're drinking something good, you

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don't have that, so you know whether it's good or bad.

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So I'm a total snob. I'd rather go with quality

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than quantity. Yeah, I'm with you on that there, Brian,

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I really am.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Back in the EMS days, it was total quantity.

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Speaker 5: I remember those seven eleven.

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Speaker 9: Sold a I think it was a half gallon mug.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I had it.

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Speaker 9: Actually they sold a half gallon mug and they had

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dollar refills, but they never said you couldn't fill the

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half gallon mug as part of the refills you could

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just read. So every morning I'd be in there refilling

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it and they didn't like me.

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Speaker 4: Well, I've been I've been drinking black coffee now for

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for years and years, but I used to, you know,

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diner or a restaurant, maybe I'll put in some you know,

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if they have half and a half or something like that.

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you get you know, you put your sugar and you

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put your cream in there. Get it right, so you

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like it. You drink about half and then the waitress

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comes on, oh can I fill it? And then can

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 1: Then, so the ratio of half and half to coffee

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sweet total ballance.

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Speaker 4: And doesn't give you any room to put any more

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Speaker 9: But you solve that problem I drinking black. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Coffee to be black. They really really good for me

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to drink it black.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to be able to savor the flavor.

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Speaker 6: And one of the women I work with who's from

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d R she grinds her own beans and makes it

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in the family coffee percolate thingy, what's it. And once

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in a while she'll bring some of that in and oh,

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my god, that is so good that I can drink black.

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that's gross.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, it's an antertaste. Same with the milk. For me,

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it's like an It's gotta just be straight, plain old

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black coffee. I've got the long black coffee.

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Speaker 4: If I could hook up an IVY drip, I would

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hang the thing up there right right.

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Speaker 9: Oh my god. Can you imagine the waitress coming over and.

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Speaker 6: Just go straight?

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Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, I guess maybe, Yeah, it'll be a

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Speaker 9: Might want to cool it down. Yeah, but I get

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the sentiment and I completely concur So let's talk about

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coffee tonight. Let's hop right in, and Gail, you are

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going to lead us up this week.

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Speaker 6: Okay. Well, actually considering this song that I picked, I

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realized I could have used it a few episodes ago

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when we did our murder episode. Now. The song is

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called Coffee Home Ground, and it's by Kate Bush and

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she wrote it while she was in the USA in

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May of nineteen seventy eight. It was on the Lionheart

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album that was her second studio album, and she only

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had time to write three new songs for that album,

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so it was Coffee Home Ground, Full House and Symphony

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in Blue. Lionheart is one of my favorite albums ever.

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I listen to it from beginning to end many many times.

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So Coffee Home Ground is about somebody who's who knows

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that somebody else is trying to poison them in their coffee.

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But she does it in a very campy way. She

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engages in sprech sprechaisang, which is the kind of singing

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where a singer rapidly moves back and forth between speaking

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and singing, and she also does it with a funny

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German accent. So it's very campy, very almost Breach style

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kind of thing. And the lyrics actually mention this doctor Crippen,

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Holly Crippen, that was his first name, who gained infamy

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after poisoning his wife. So let's have a listen and

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Speaker 12: Yo, you spin some on the side into my glass

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and I don't want anything?

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Speaker 11: Can you jog?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 10: Die?

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Speaker 13: I just know my dad, you know your day.

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Speaker 12: Tell me just a come you smell a bitter U?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 12: No, do your coffee.

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Speaker 12: What answer?

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Speaker 10: Scary?

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Speaker 13: Set long, lots of.

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Speaker 2: Into there was a comelap so anas.

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Speaker 12: That's all.

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Speaker 13: This compound.

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Speaker 12: And I bet you gave the compani world. Nye you

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love the little company. If your recipe as a verse.

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Speaker 6: Restive pace co.

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Speaker 9: He sare.

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Speaker 12: He still steal.

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Speaker 4: Time?

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Speaker 13: Name as a god, focus the bosoms of.

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Speaker 14: The walk.

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Speaker 11: As you got it a bit, it's different, I'll give

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Speaker 6: And the theme of the thank you, Yeah, it seems

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that in the song she's addressing someone that might be

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lonely and as a way of keeping people around, poisons them.

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A grim way of preserving people and keeping them trapped,

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slipping poison into coffee and food. Now the song actually,

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according to Cark, Kate Bush was in fact inspired directly

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from a cab driver that she met who was a

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bit nutty. And it's just a song about somebody who

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thinks they're being poisoned by somebody else, and they think

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that there's belladonna in their tea and that whenever they

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offer them something to eat, it's got poison in it.

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kind of did it in a Brechtian style, the old

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sort of German vibe to try and bring across the

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humor side of it. She was on vocals and piano.

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Stuart Elliott was on drums and percussion. Ian Berenson was

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in the rhythm guitar. Bass was David Patten and Duncan

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Mackay on the synthesizer.

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Speaker 9: If you like stories about arsen making your food and drink,

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I highly suggest Murder in the Hudson Valley because a

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number of cases. But scroll back. I was trying to

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look up the date in between. I couldn't find it,

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but we did. I did the true story behind the

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play Murder of Arsenic and Old Lace. Okay, so scroll

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back and look for that. If you like Arsenic, that's

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the one for you. Plus get checked out because that's

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messed up.

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Speaker 5: If you like Arsenic.

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Speaker 6: Fun facts, Arsenic and Old Lace was the play in which,

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many many years ago, because both both these fellows have

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crossed over now, Jonathan Fried from Dark Shadows and Larry

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Storch from f Troop did Arsenic and Old Lace Once

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upon a time.

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Speaker 9: Very cool.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it was just poisoned. She just was

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giving him sanka. Couldn't I'm saying, would could be.

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Speaker 6: He kept falling asleep, he would be awake only your

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hairdresser nose for sure.

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Speaker 9: All Right. I admit I'm not a big Kate Bush fan.

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I'm probably in the minority, but that one's catchy. I

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like that one. Good cool, all right, thanks Gil John.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, my song obviously is about coffee. It doesn't

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delve into arsenic or sanka for that matter, but the

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simple combination of.

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Speaker 9: Cigarettes and coffee.

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Speaker 6: What fun is that?

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Speaker 5: Yes, exactly nineteen sixty six Otis Redding that was on

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It was the third track on their soul album. It's

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kind of a soul It's actually a nice song. I

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don't know how else to describe it, very very different

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from some of the other music that I've put on here,

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with some of the sarcasm in it and some of

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the depressing qualities to it. But this has kind of

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got a sweet kind of a tone to it of

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a couple sitting I guess in a restaurant or a

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diner at quarter to three in the morning and talking

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about that relationship over cigarettes and coffee, and Brian, let's

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take it from there.

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Speaker 8: It's early rendon money about one up till three. I'm

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sitting and talking with my baby with a signal that's

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in coffee.

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Speaker 14: And to tell you that.

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Speaker 8: I've been so sapped it fair, honey, since I've met you, Baby,

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since I've met you, he's in that I've been around,

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and all good looking girls out there, they just don't

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seem to fit in no I particular lissen.

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Speaker 14: But it seems so not for dal.

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Speaker 8: That you when that hockey here.

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Speaker 14: Just talking all the cigarettes and drinking talk me.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 13: My heart man low love?

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Speaker 8: That s not fair, honey. Want to let me just

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feel my whole life for man? I complete, I complete

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my whole lad.

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Speaker 10: Would be here.

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Speaker 8: If you wouldn't take things on the consideration and walk

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down miss.

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Speaker 12: With me, I wouldn't love it.

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Speaker 8: Jain Well, I say, it's a world that rent the

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ball in who went to quote until three? Seeing you're

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talking cgarettes and drinking coffee hand.

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Speaker 12: And I'd like to.

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Speaker 4: Show you why.

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Speaker 8: I've no knowhing but good old job.

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Speaker 4: Since I met you.

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Speaker 7: Go.

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Speaker 4: On it since I w mad you, babe, one.

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Speaker 14: Drink of coffee, drn help me small, just one more ciga.

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Speaker 8: I don't want no cream and sugars.

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Speaker 5: I got you do.

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Speaker 8: What lett me get job?

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Speaker 10: Help me doing job it's good time.

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Speaker 12: That we'll have.

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Speaker 10: It's uh so uh no more so uh.

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Speaker 5: Uh Yes, Cigarettes and Coffee by the late Great Otis Redding. Uh.

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I like it because it's simple. It's you know, the

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cigarettes and coffee is a metaphor about a relationship. Obviously

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if you listen to it.

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Speaker 9: And uh, it's sweet, it's simple.

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Speaker 5: It's definitely kind of crooning soul.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: It's just a good piece of music. It's not what

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Otis Reading is most famous for, of course, and we

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all know what he had that and we had been

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talking about it in between. But I think this is

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one of those sleeper hits.

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Speaker 9: It makes you think, what how bad did everything smell

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back then when everybody was smoking inside all the time,

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Like it's so far removed from everybody's memory at this point.

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Speaker 5: And another thing, too, is how bad was the coffee?

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Speaker 9: And I'm sure it was not good coffee. It's just

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not it's probably sat and burnt by quarter to three

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in the morning.

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Speaker 5: You're smoking cigarettes, you got you got the the burnt

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bottom of the coffee cup, you know, the coffee pot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm guessing I'm I'm like the only like

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ex smoker in the in the group here today and

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so I can comment. And I quit smoking. I didn't quit.

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I upped the coffee. I cut out the cigarettes. I

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uped the coffee. And but but being a smoker, I

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didn't notice because you know, but I guess. Yeah, I

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was walking around smelling like an ash tray. Now you

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miss this right now, I missed me sneeze. Yeah. No,

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I can't even.

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Speaker 9: Smell it from across the street if somebody smoking a cigarette.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's it's been Oh geez. I

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quit in the early eighties. I had almost forgotten that,

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I you know, I was like, oh, wait a minute, Yeah,

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I used to smoke, and it's it's it's stunk, you know,

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so did I you know.

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Speaker 5: Well, the song itself, I would say, it's it's it's

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nothing that stands out. It's kind of a nice, soulful,

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slow moving metaphor for a relationship between two people as

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they talk about it over cigarettes and coffee. Albeit probably

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not very good coffe, but I'm sure it was, you know, coffee. Nonetheless,

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so kind of a sweet, simple song. And uh, he

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rests in peace, mister Redding, thank you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: He died just before his giant, giant hit. Yes, came

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after of the Dock of the Bay, right, Yeah, yeah,

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Steve Cropper wound up fixing it.

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Speaker 5: So that was so that was Neil.

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Speaker 9: You said it was sixty eight he passed.

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Speaker 4: That was the pipe, I believe, So I believe that's

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at least that's when the Doc of the Bay, I believe,

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you know, hit the charts and it was yeah, like

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you said it was. It was posthumously released. And the

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irony is that became his signature song and his biggest hit, right,

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and he didn't get to you know, any of it.

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Speaker 9: You enjoy it and yeah, moren't familiar. He wrote respect

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and did the first version of it before I read

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the Franklin got it. Yeah, and his is just as good.

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She just made it a mega hit.

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Speaker 5: Oh, she just it was her delivery, that's all.

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Speaker 4: He was on par with it though he was at

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the the you know, the legendary Monterey Pop Festival, which

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you know, pretty much introduced Jimmy Hendrix to the world

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and and and the Who to the United States. Yeah,

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and Otis Redding was there and they actually about that

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time and just about after that. I don't know what

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it was, but maybe around nineteen sixty nine, nineteen seventy

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they released. It was a double double. One side was

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the Hendrick set, the other side was the Otis Redding set.

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And you know, and I'll say the irony of that

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was that they were both gone at that point. But yeah, no,

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he does respect and he you know, oh he kicks it.

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You know, he was not all that kind of slow

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bluesy crooning stuff. He let it rip. You know, he

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knew how to you know, he knew how to bring it.

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Speaker 5: So, oh yeah, I hope you like my kind of

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soulful pleasant selection for tonight lit cigarettes and coffee my

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friends omelly soulful collection.

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Speaker 4: Yep, yes, coffee, good, cigarettes bad.

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Speaker 9: Agreed, Yes, I agreed. Antioxidants whenever anybody says you just

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say antioxidants. Whatever you're talking about, antioxidants. Coffee's got anti.

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Speaker 6: You don't like uncle oxidants? No, oh, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: I had to uh huh, Gillia Gale, quick with the

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dad jokes here, old old people humor.

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Speaker 4: I take gant acids. But oh.

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Speaker 9: Oh man, I'm gonna take that as a cue that

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we need a break. Yeah, yes, yeah, all right, so

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why don't we do that? And we will be right

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back Hudson River Radio dot Com a favorite among shut

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ins and dogs.

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Speaker 6: This concludes the first part of this cassette.

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Speaker 9: Please turn the cassette over and begin again on side too.

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Speaker 1: This is Hudson River Radio dot Com.

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Speaker 9: Man welcome back. Now the waiter has a chance to

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ruin your coffee to cream ratio. We're gonna hop right

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back in and barber take it away.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm gonna talk about my song choice in

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a moment, but first I wanted to talk about a

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nineteen eighties publicity event put together as an ad campaign

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from the National Coffee Association, which was meant to make

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coffee appear more cool to a younger generation. The association

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was concerned that young people thought of coffee as an

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old people's drink. So what did they do. They hit

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up the MTV roster for what they believed to be

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some hip acts like Bowiello Heart and for some reason,

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no disrespect, Cecily Tyson and Jane Curtin Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 9: A little behind the curve and Jane Curtin as as

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I am a little behind Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So these ads, known as the Coffee Achievers, featured these

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hip celebs performing various activities and drinking coffee. All the

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ads had the following voiceover dialogue. And this is going

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to be important later. You are the new American society,

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the movers and the shakers. You are the new coffee

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generation because coffee lets you calm yourself down and picks

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you up. Coffee gives you the serenity to dream it

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and the vitality to do it. No other drink does

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that like coffee. Join the Coffee Achievers, do your best.

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So did this ad campaign have the desired effect? Not really?

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But what did boost coffee consumption among young people occurred

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a few years later in the nineteen nineties with the

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immersions of grunge rock and the Seattle scene, which gave

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birth to Starbucks, which now brings us to my song

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choice called Coffee Achievers by the band seventy six Percent

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Uncertain from their nineteen eighty four debut album Estimated Monkey Time.

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So why don't we sit back, take a sip, savor

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the flavor in hell, that rich coffee aroma, and listen

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to Coffee Achievers.

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Speaker 15: Coffee spikes up, coffee bread prey, tack my every poot,

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never let.

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Speaker 9: Pay down, Nothing done.

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Speaker 4: It's why I got you pump in.

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Speaker 10: I'm a copy into.

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Speaker 16: Cas the same coffee rips in my eyes, my dollars.

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Speaker 10: And the same birthday, that space thing freaking buy the boat.

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It's the big on bro.

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Speaker 12: Makes my life complete as the light and drink the

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bans that brother a good.

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Speaker 16: Dream fall and so what I did ever both go

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coffee let me Oh, I'm typing in my driends. I'm

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a popping at Tva Gangster.

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Speaker 15: Cantil White, I stand it may pay up cured.

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Speaker 10: My every hill miracle prob Russell.

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Speaker 12: So I know, no that's getting signed.

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Speaker 14: I mean that's been made.

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Speaker 6: Just light up, balling up in.

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Speaker 10: But I'm god by a.

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Speaker 16: Stream Madam, Madam tell and Don.

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Speaker 15: John a cockneya Teba John Nicoffia Ta.

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Speaker 10: Don N Copia Teva half ball.

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Speaker 15: Bill Yus Gone Sonny bamfy roll Muffy's Glenn.

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Speaker 16: Color By saw it on t bad.

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Speaker 15: Gotten a cocky by, I'm a boy yea Teva Danta

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same Copys do live it talent it the Tenda ding Switch,

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don N Cockatiba, Don Coffee Teba Dohn Coffy Tuber.

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Speaker 6: All right, Well.

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Speaker 1: Seventy six percent Uncertain was formed in nineteen eighty three

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in Bridgeport, Connecticut, by members of the bands C I

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A and Reflex from Paine members Mike Bones Hammond on vocals,

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Kenny Peterson, Mike Spadaccini and Todd Knapp on guitar, Dave

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Ware on bass, and William Knapp on drums. In nineteen

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eighty nine, Mike Spataccini left the band and was replaced

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by Jeff Roberts. Unfortunately, the same year, after further lineup

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changes and a bad record deal, the band broke up.

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In nineteen ninety seven, Jeff Roberts died in a car accident,

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00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,880
and the band reunited to play a series of benefits

476
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,519
to raise money for his widow and children. So, despite

477
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:36,079
the lyrics which do allude to the fact that they

478
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:42,240
had this ad campaign in mind, I couldn't find anything

479
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,200
online that directly said, yes, they're related, even though the

480
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:51,400
lyrics kind of allude to that. So I do want

481
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,400
to just read you some of the lyrics. I'll be

482
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,519
brief and you be the judge. Pick me up, bring

483
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,799
me down, take my every move, never let me down.

484
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,480
Nothing for me to see you. My dream by the

485
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:08,119
world makes my life light. It makes me a man.

486
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:12,359
You're my every join the community can't be wrong for me.

487
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,480
I don't want a dream.

488
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:15,799
Speaker 4: So now.

489
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: That's why I read the voice over to the Coffee

490
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:25,480
Achiever's ad, because it really, it really does pull from that.

491
00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:29,799
And I just I basically picked the song because I

492
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,720
thought it was cool and it you know, it's a

493
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,119
type of song that I kind of go for, and

494
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:39,119
I just thought that. And then and the thing is,

495
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,160
when I was googling it Coffee Achievers, this band, I

496
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:47,160
had to actually type in Coffee Achiever's song because when

497
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,640
I googled it, I wasn't aware of this ad campaign

498
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:52,599
and all these things started coming up with this ad campaign,

499
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,400
and I was like, what's what's this? And then I

500
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,880
found all this information on this ad campaign and so

501
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:06,599
now that gave me some background information unintentionally about the song.

502
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 4: What I really liked was the intro that it was.

503
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:17,000
It was like the jingle for it was Maxwell House

504
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:24,200
or something like that. Yeah, yeah, and oh that had

505
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:27,039
me hooked. Right as I heard that, I sud this,

506
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,680
this is right up my alley. This is great. I

507
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:30,720
really liked that song.

508
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really liked it too. That's that's basically why

509
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,079
I picked it. And then, you know, as I was

510
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:38,000
researching it and trying to figure out what to write

511
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:40,640
because I couldn't really find a lot on the band themselves.

512
00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:45,599
But boy, there's loads of these YouTube videos with these

513
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,839
voiceovers and they're hilarious. I heard you to check them

514
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,519
out and go down the same rabbit hole. I left

515
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:54,240
rabbit tracks for you. Not a problem I left. I

516
00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:55,240
left coffee beans.

517
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:56,039
Speaker 6: You can follow them.

518
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:56,839
Speaker 9: Excellent.

519
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,319
Speaker 6: There you have it.

520
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,599
Speaker 9: That's a prime example of true inspiration because you can

521
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follow that from.

522
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: Actually actually found the band's Facebook page and they seem

523
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,239
to be like active recently. So I messaged them to

524
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,719
ask me, you know, what exactly was their inspiration for

525
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,119
the song, but I didn't get an answer.

526
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 6: Song.

527
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 9: Okay, it'll come as soon as we're done recording.

528
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,199
Speaker 1: Of course.

529
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 9: They're brewing coffee to sit down and type their response

530
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,480
right now. Of course, all right, thanks Barb. Mercedes is

531
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:31,639
not with us tonight, but she did want to participate

532
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,599
because she had a selection and she pre recorded her segment.

533
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:37,559
So let's check out what Mercedes has sent for us.

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00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:41,159
Speaker 17: Hey, everybody, As Neil and I often say, there is

535
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:44,360
an Alice Cooper song and a Ramone song for every occasion.

536
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:47,599
If given our own show, it would be The Ramone

537
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:52,000
slash Alice Cooper Music Show with Neila Mercedes. Alice has

538
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:55,360
a really good song titled Caffeine. I don't know what

539
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,079
the correlating Ramone song would be, but I'm sure there

540
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:01,360
is one. But I've been cut off from using Alice

541
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,719
songs for a while, so it took me a minute

542
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,320
to think of this one. I never think of the

543
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,199
song to be about coffee, but it is. I always

544
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,599
think of it as being about sugar. The song is

545
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,000
No Sugar Tonight slash New Mother Nature Medley by the

546
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:21,760
Guests Who from nineteen sixty nine. It was released as

547
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,840
the B side of American Woman, which you'll probably know

548
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:29,000
without the New Mother Nature edition. The record hit number

549
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:31,559
one on the Billboard Hot one hundred and stayed there

550
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:34,880
for three weeks. At the time, cash Box and other

551
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:38,960
important music trade magazine would rate sides of singles separately,

552
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:43,679
and No Sugar Tonight reached number thirty nine. The story

553
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,440
about adding New Mother Nature and making it a medley

554
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:50,079
goes like this Bachmann had written or was in the

555
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:53,800
process of writing, depending on your source. A short song

556
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,960
in the key of F Sharp called No Sugar Tonight.

557
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:01,159
When he presented the song to Burton Cumming and Orca,

558
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,559
he was told that the song was too short. Bachman

559
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:08,800
and Cummings expanded the song by adding to it a

560
00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:12,079
song that Cummings had written or was in the process

561
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:15,119
of writing, that was also in the key of F sharp.

562
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:19,480
New Mother Nature Radio DJs would play them together and

563
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,519
it was released as a medley. This was the last

564
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:25,239
record that Randy Bachman played on as a member of

565
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,960
The Guests Who. He was a Mormon and his religious

566
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:31,800
beliefs conflicted with the sex, drugs, and rock and roll

567
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,880
lifestyle of the other band members. In nineteen seventy three,

568
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:40,840
Bachman began a band with two of his brothers, Fred Turner,

569
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:45,639
and called themselves Bachman Turner Overdrive. You certainly know them.

570
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:51,280
You ain't seen nothing yet, getting taken care of business,

571
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,079
rocking on down, sorry, rolling down the highway. But let's

572
00:36:56,119 --> 00:36:58,960
get back to the Guests Who. Their first album, a

573
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:02,199
garage rock out called Shaken All Over with a single

574
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,119
of the same name, a cover of the original by

575
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,440
Johnny Kidd and the Pirates, was released in nineteen sixty five.

576
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,079
It was the beginning of the British Invasion. So what

577
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,159
was a new Canadian band going to do to get noticed?

578
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,719
While their Canadian label, Quality Records disguised the single by

579
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,159
crediting it to Guess Who with a question mark as

580
00:37:26,199 --> 00:37:30,360
a publicity stunt to generate speculation that it was by

581
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,239
a more famous British Invasion band working incognito, the record

582
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,159
company revealed that the band's name was actually Chad Allen

583
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,360
and the Expressions, but the radio DJ has continued to

584
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,320
use the name the Guess Who, which stuck the question

585
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:52,119
mark was later dropped. But I cannot find any information.

586
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: About when or why.

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00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,079
Speaker 17: So let's hear no sugar tonight, slash new mother nature.

588
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 10: Lonely, feeling deep inside, find the corner your hide, silent footsteps,

589
00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:34,480
crowded me, sudden darkness.

590
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,039
Speaker 11: But I can see.

591
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 10: No sugar tonight or coffee. No sugar to night in

592
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,119
my tea, No sugar to sound, sign me.

593
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 16: No sugars around with me down outdown own own you

594
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,320
got out down now out.

595
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 15: In the silence of her mind, quiet movements where I

596
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,400
can find.

597
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,679
Speaker 4: Ven for me.

598
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 11: With her eyes.

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00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:27,119
Speaker 10: Now fallen from her sky.

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00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 16: Sk no sugars a din call me, no sugars are done.

601
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,519
Speaker 10: No sugar stand sid me, No sugars are.

602
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: Run with me.

603
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:47,679
Speaker 16: Don lou down down down down, go out down down undut.

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00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: Jaca says yes, and I believe him. I'm gonna talk

605
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,599
about the things I see. She hasn't got the feeble

606
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:37,280
that gots to leave him. Understand it in each other's way,

607
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:40,360
get trimming back tide to places you've been to.

608
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:41,519
Speaker 18: You wonder what you're.

609
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 13: Gonna fight him.

610
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 12: You know you've been wrong, but it won't.

611
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 10: Belong before you leave him above behind.

612
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 18: Because it's the number of the nature.

613
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 5: Take it over.

614
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 18: It's the new spend the lady go to gold. It's

615
00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:58,800
the umber of the nature.

616
00:40:59,119 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 10: Take it over.

617
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,559
Speaker 18: She's getting us all, she's getting us all.

618
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,679
Speaker 10: Shuck said no when I came back last.

619
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,199
Speaker 18: Time, it's looking like I lost a friend.

620
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 4: No use calling because the sky.

621
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,639
Speaker 10: Is falling and I'm getting pretty neat at it.

622
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 3: In a small field groom in a corner basement, the

623
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:24,840
situation must be rising.

624
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,679
Speaker 10: Mag your good. He's in a bottle of wine.

625
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,159
Speaker 18: We're gonna get in on riding to night. Because it's

626
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:36,000
the new mother nature, take it over. It's the middle spleen.

627
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:41,360
The lady comes to color it's the new the nature

628
00:41:41,639 --> 00:41:42,400
taking it over.

629
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 4: She's getting us all. She's getting us all.

630
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 10: Lovely because is guessing. I believe my side.

631
00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:55,039
Speaker 3: Other things I see. You find the corner of the feeble,

632
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:58,519
the guts to living with us had in each other's weak, silent.

633
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,679
Speaker 10: Just step side to play. He says, you what you're

634
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,639
gonna find the son Get this song and it below.

635
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 3: The major take it.

636
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 18: It's the lady come to the nature as having us all.

637
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,679
Speaker 10: She's getting us all.

638
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 17: So you might get an idea of what No Sugar

639
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,920
Tonight refers to, But I'm gonna tell you the story

640
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:54,159
behind it. This is from the song Fact's website. John Preshow,

641
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:58,920
who knew Randy Bachman had worked security for the Bandan

642
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,360
Turner over Over, gave us this account of how the

643
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,199
song came together. Randy told me that the inspiration for

644
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,519
writing No Sugar Tonight came from to him from an

645
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:14,960
experience he had walking in downtown Berkeley, California. Randy was

646
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:17,840
walking and talking with a bandmate when he looked up

647
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,480
and saw four big biker guys walking on the same sidewalk.

648
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:24,960
Approaching them. Randy made up his mind across the street

649
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:28,159
rather than confront the bikers. Then he heard the skidding

650
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,880
of car tires. Just as Randy was stepping off the sidewalk,

651
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,599
the car came to a skidding stop, and a biker

652
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,360
lady got out of the car, walked over to one

653
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,280
of the bikers and engaged him at a heated conversation.

654
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:44,239
When the argument ended, the biker lady walked back to

655
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,880
the car, opened the door, turned around, then shouted to

656
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,280
the biker one more thing, honey, you're not getting any

657
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,639
sugar tonight, indicating that he was not going to get

658
00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:58,000
any sex that night from her. The car took off,

659
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,199
Randy crossed the street, went back to his hotel and

660
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,320
started writing the song based on that experience. So that's

661
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,000
my coffee song, No sugar Tonight.

662
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: I like it.

663
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 6: I've always loved that song.

664
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think Burton Cummings is one of the most

665
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,639
underrated vocalists, especially from around that time. You never see

666
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:26,199
him on a list of you know, greatest singers of

667
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,199
all time and all that, but he certainly should be.

668
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,440
And and he has such a great voice, and yes,

669
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,280
and he's still out there doing it.

670
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:40,559
Speaker 9: Last I knew good. So I like those guitar riffs. Yeah,

671
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:43,360
he does. He pops up on social media. He's got

672
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,519
some videos, he does little things.

673
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:49,199
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I don't say he was totally unknown, but.

674
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:53,079
Speaker 9: Yeah, he doesn't get the name that like Brandy Bachman

675
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:58,519
is better known. Yeah yeah, yeah, that was a good one.

676
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:02,159
All right. Just so, how HAPs Mercedes is in Canada

677
00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:05,719
as we're recording, and I think there's a snaff who

678
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,960
because her name is Mercedes, they're trying to stick a

679
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:11,760
tariffunder to bring her back. Oh, we're going to see

680
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,480
how that out.

681
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: Goodness.

682
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 4: See, yeah, we'll see how that works.

683
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 6: Ye.

684
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:18,119
Speaker 9: All right, let's take our second quick break and we

685
00:45:18,199 --> 00:45:19,639
have two more to go, So stick around.

686
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 15: Freshen your coffee, sir, Yeah, yeah, yeah, keep it coming,

687
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,760
put the butt down, get away.

688
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,039
Speaker 1: Hudson River Radio dot com.

689
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:34,599
Speaker 9: And welcome back, Neil. We're up to you.

690
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna echo the sentiments that Mercedes said that

691
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,119
between Alice Cooper and the Ramones, there's always a song

692
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,679
for every occasion. And I'll be honest, I'm hard pressed

693
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:49,920
to come up with a Ramone song about coffee, other

694
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:53,639
than the fact that all of their songs sound like

695
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:59,280
they've been drinking too much. Yep. But and I've got

696
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:07,119
the coffee right now. But the name of the song

697
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:09,960
and the band that I've chosen for today, the song

698
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:16,079
is called Coffee Mug by The Descendants, Okay now. The

699
00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:19,280
Descendants are an American punk rock band that formed in

700
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:25,719
Manhattan Beach, California, in nineteen seventy seven. They began as

701
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,280
a power pop, surf punk trio with drummer Bill Stevenson,

702
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,960
who also would go on to become their producer, main

703
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:36,440
songwriter and would be the only constant member of the

704
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:40,679
band throughout its history, along with guitarist Frank Nevada and

705
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:46,760
bassist Tony Lombardo. Now in nineteen seventy nine, they added

706
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:52,679
Stephenson's friend Milo Auckerman as the lead singer, and his

707
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,000
addition to the band led them to write shorter, faster,

708
00:46:56,199 --> 00:47:00,960
and more aggressive songs. Auckerman would say later that quote,

709
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,480
we started drinking too much coffee. Because of that and

710
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:10,400
the addition of me, the music became very quick and

711
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:14,320
all about bursts of energy, and we'll see that in

712
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,719
just a minute. They went on to become central figures

713
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,599
in the la hardcore scene that had been developing around

714
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:27,719
that time. They recorded their debut album, Milo goes to

715
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,000
college in June of nineteen eighty two, because well that's

716
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:37,000
what Milo did. He decided he wanted to go to college.

717
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,760
As Milo explains, when I decided to go to university,

718
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,199
the guys in the band were pretty hip on it

719
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,719
because they knew how big a nerd I was, and

720
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,639
they were cool with it. By the way, Ackerman went

721
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,960
on to earn a PhD in biochemistry.

722
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,039
Speaker 6: Nice anyway.

723
00:47:56,079 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 4: Around the same time, Stevenson had also joined the band

724
00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:04,360
Black Flag. So with Ackerman in college and Stevenson in

725
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,320
Black Flag, the Descendants went on kind of a hiatus

726
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,920
until nineteen eighty five. Also during this time, guitarist Nevada

727
00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:17,760
had burned all his equipment and moved to Oregon, as

728
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,400
one would do all over the stream, while the remaining

729
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:27,320
members continued to perform as the Ascendants get It Descendants Ascendants,

730
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:31,719
we get it anyway, this kind of revolving door back

731
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,480
and forth. There was a mix and match type of

732
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:39,480
thing with basically the same small core of musicians that

733
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:41,960
went on in several different bands went on until about

734
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:45,800
nineteen ninety six, which was actually pretty cool because from

735
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,800
what I understand, they were all cool with it. There

736
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,000
was no jealousy or rivalry. They were just like, oh,

737
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,800
let's get you know, we want to play. Okay, get

738
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,960
the guys that were available, you know. So they went

739
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,119
on and it was it was like a cool scene.

740
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,280
And I wish more, I wish more musicians were.

741
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,679
Speaker 6: Like that, to be honest, or people in general.

742
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 4: There you go. Anyway, we're up to nineteen ninety six

743
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,280
and that's when the Descendants reformed with Milo back in

744
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:21,280
the fold, Stevenson on drums, Stephen Egerton on guitar, and

745
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:25,840
Carl Alvarez on bass, and they got together and recorded

746
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,960
the album Everything.

747
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:32,519
Speaker 9: Sucks, shortened to the point.

748
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:36,119
Speaker 4: And speaking of speaking of shortened to the point, it

749
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,199
contains the song We're gonna hear right now coffee Mode.

750
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:02,639
Speaker 7: When I.

751
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 4: And there you have it all thirty thirty five seconds

752
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:16,440
of coffee mug.

753
00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 9: Wow, that is a six minute song squished through thirty seconds.

754
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 4: That's actually a very long song played very very fast. Yeah. Now,

755
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,719
in case you missed any of the lyrics, I saw

756
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,960
you writing them down, John, I know you got them right.

757
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 5: Of course, every every word, Neil, every word.

758
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,079
Speaker 4: But for the rest of you, let me give mug

759
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:41,400
mug mug, coffee mug going to clear away the haze.

760
00:50:41,519 --> 00:50:45,039
Liquid proof that I can win this race. Coffee mug

761
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:50,920
the grip that keeps me tall, my interlink, keeps me

762
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:55,079
questing all. I don't need no booze or drugs. I

763
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,800
just chug a lug, my coffee mug. I don't need

764
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,519
your kiss or hug. I just chuck the lug my

765
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:04,079
coffee mug. They haven't banned my liquid drug of choice.

766
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,599
There's too many, there's too many hooked, and they've got

767
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,719
too much voice. So for the moment, we're all pretty

768
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,440
good to go with ninety eight cups, with ninety eight

769
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,880
more to go. I don't need no booze and drugs.

770
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,599
I just chugle love my coffee mug. I don't need

771
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:23,840
your kiss and hug. I just chuggle love my coffee mug.

772
00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:28,760
Here a bean, there are being everywhere a mean mean bean.

773
00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:32,199
Coffee mug mug, mug mug.

774
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: Wow, that's like ode to coffee mug.

775
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 9: That is a four minute song.

776
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah that you could have played that song three times

777
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,480
in the amount of time it took me to read

778
00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:44,960
the lyrics.

779
00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, wow, Neil, I gotta say, you know, compared

780
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,719
to the kind of the soulful, slow, cigarettes and coffee

781
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,480
that just kind of kicks it up and notch.

782
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 4: To borrow a phrase, I think they've they've got the

783
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:05,360
that's well say, coffee allows you to calm yourself down

784
00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:09,559
and picks you up. That's right now. In spite of

785
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:13,039
going on one hiatus or another or two or whatever,

786
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,199
the Descendant's lineup was basically or has basically remained the

787
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:22,320
same with Auckerman, Stevenson, Eagerton, and Alvarez since nineteen eighty six.

788
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:28,719
In twenty sixteen, Milo decided to leave his scientific career

789
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,960
behind and focus his attention on the Descendants full time,

790
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:39,679
citing burnout with biochemistry and also getting laid off from

791
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,679
his job at DuPont. So hey, you go with what

792
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,599
you know. A caricature of Milo has been used as

793
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:51,480
the band's mascot or logo since the early nineteen eighties.

794
00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:54,880
It has appeared on many of their album covers and

795
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,519
on much of their merchandise and promo material as well. Overall,

796
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,880
have released eight studio albums, plus numerous live albums, compilations

797
00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:10,719
and ep EPs, and a documentary film about the band

798
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:16,840
was released in twenty thirteen, and finally the descendants have

799
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,920
been cited as an influence on many modern day punk

800
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:24,440
bands such as Green Day, Blink one two, and The Offspring,

801
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:27,800
and their records have been included on several lists of

802
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:33,719
noteworthy punk albums. So a little more coffee please, I

803
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:38,920
don't know right there, I'm all tired out now.

804
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,519
Speaker 9: Yeah wow, Yeah, that was a lot of music in

805
00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:44,639
a very short amount of time.

806
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:50,199
Speaker 4: Yes, I can't even speak that, fan, I can't even

807
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:53,920
How could you spit all those lyrics out that quickly?

808
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,199
Speaker 9: If spress over a song, yeah, yes, much.

809
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,079
Speaker 4: I would have to like slow the tape down and

810
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:01,960
record it. But then it would sound like Alvin and

811
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,639
the Chipmunks, which wouldn't wouldn't be you know, it would

812
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:12,239
kind of fit too. That's sped up chiels true. Right,

813
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:12,719
there you go.

814
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a hard one to follow. Yeah, great, So

815
00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:21,679
here we go. I went with something that is much slower,

816
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,960
not quite as slow and mellowis John's. But in between

817
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:28,320
it's a song called Afternoons and Coffee Spoons by the

818
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,440
crash Test Dummies. Yep, the crash Test Dummies are from

819
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,639
Winnipeg in the Manitoba province of Canada. A when you

820
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,280
hear a song of theirs, the first thing that pops

821
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,800
out is Brad Roberts voice. He's one of the few

822
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,800
mainstream singers that are in like that bass baritone range.

823
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:52,079
You don't see that too often. It's Cyclopedia dot Com said,

824
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:55,800
if a bullfrog could sing appealingly, it would probably sound

825
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,039
like Brad Roberts. That's a pretty good description. I would

826
00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:03,920
go with that. Brad is now sixty one. He graduated

827
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:07,679
with honors in English literature and philosophy from the University

828
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,800
of Winnipeg. He dropped his plans for earning a master's

829
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,159
degree when the music stuff started taking off. He was

830
00:55:14,199 --> 00:55:16,880
working as a bartender and writing songs on the side,

831
00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:20,960
and his first band, back in nineteen eighty six, was named,

832
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:25,239
unbeknownst to him by band member and club owner Curtis Fordell.

833
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,320
He named it Bad Brad Roberts and the Saint James

834
00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:30,719
Rhythm Pigs.

835
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,599
Speaker 4: That kind of rolls right off the tongue.

836
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 14: Yeah.

837
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:37,599
Speaker 9: Really, that did not last very long. That got kaibash

838
00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:41,679
pretty quickly. The band evolved into the Crash Test Dummies.

839
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,599
That name was a joke that was made by a

840
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:46,280
friend who was in medical school who just kind of

841
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,760
made it as a one off comment, and that's what's stuck.

842
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,360
It's better than the rhythm pigs, I think in this

843
00:55:51,519 --> 00:55:55,880
particular situation. I don't know for their type, their style

844
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,519
and all that rhythm Pigs has. It has its place,

845
00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:03,960
but exactly, yeah, exactly. Now a crash test dummy itself,

846
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:07,719
which if you're unfamiliar, is a substitute for a human

847
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,800
used in crash tests for automobiles and planes and all

848
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,760
that kind of stuff. Anybody want to guess when the

849
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,920
first injury from a motor vehicle accident happened? You want

850
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,159
to take a guess what year.

851
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 4: I was going to be. Probably about ten minutes after

852
00:56:23,519 --> 00:56:26,199
the first car rules on the assembly line.

853
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,559
Speaker 9: You're not far off, Neil. Yeah, we're going back to

854
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:38,519
eighteen sixty nine and automobile accident. Yes, Mary Ward, which

855
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,440
I don't think you could sound more irish, fell off

856
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:44,320
of a steam powered carriage and then got run over

857
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,519
by that carriage. The first motor vehicle accident with an

858
00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:54,920
injury and the first fatality. So that's Mary's claim to fame. Unfortunately,

859
00:56:56,119 --> 00:57:00,800
so engineers, they wanted design cars that minimize in during

860
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,559
accidents because, as we have seen, if there is something

861
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:08,480
that can be hit, a driver will somehow find a

862
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:12,559
way to hit it. So when they started doing this,

863
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,880
they use cadavers for a number of years, which didn't

864
00:57:16,119 --> 00:57:18,199
sit well with a lot of people because it's of

865
00:57:18,239 --> 00:57:21,239
gross and some thought it was disrespectful for us. And

866
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:23,960
were they volunteers.

867
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,039
Speaker 4: Were they not?

868
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,199
Speaker 9: I don't really know. They started using volunteer people, and

869
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,840
they started using non volunteer animals, which also did not

870
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:39,000
go over very well. So engineers started working on something

871
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:42,639
to simulate a human person. The first crash test on

872
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,480
ME came out in nineteen forty nine and has evolved

873
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,320
ever since with more sensors, more computers, more advanced and

874
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,719
all that kind of stuff. So generally you don't see

875
00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:53,960
too many people getting strapped in and crashed into walls

876
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,639
on purpose. Now back to the band. They have changed

877
00:57:57,639 --> 00:58:00,880
their lineup a few times, but the best known lineup

878
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:04,719
is Brad on vocals and guitar, Ellen Reid on keyboards

879
00:58:05,039 --> 00:58:09,280
and vocals, Brad's brother Dan on bass and backup vocals,

880
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:14,079
Benjamin Darvel on mandolin and harmonica, and Mitch George on drums.

881
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,320
They gained a following around the Winnipeg area and they

882
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,960
wound up getting signed to BMG Records in nineteen ninety one,

883
00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:24,239
which is pretty good. Their first album, The Ghosts That

884
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,760
Haunt Me, had a single titled Superman Song that was

885
00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:32,079
huge in Canada. It was nothing in the United States

886
00:58:32,159 --> 00:58:34,880
for some reason. It just didn't crash, it didn't cross

887
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,960
the border. But it was their next album, nineteen ninety

888
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,440
three's God Shuffled His Feet that helped them break into

889
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,559
the US. Happened to be in college up in Potsdam,

890
00:58:44,639 --> 00:58:47,000
near the Canadian border, so we could hear Canadian radio.

891
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,920
So I got to hear them first that way, and

892
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,800
they started gaining some traction here in the US. That

893
00:58:54,039 --> 00:58:57,519
is the album that has the song on it, which

894
00:58:57,599 --> 00:58:59,800
is the giant hit that if you know them, that's

895
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,760
the song you know here in the US. Not only

896
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,840
was it a big hit in the US, it topped

897
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,199
the charts in Europe, Australia, and Yes, weird Al did

898
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,159
a parody called Headline News. Of course he did, of

899
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,199
course he did. Both songs are about the struggles of

900
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,960
three different kids as they grow up. The Crash Test

901
00:59:18,039 --> 00:59:20,880
Dummies tends to be a little more profound and serious

902
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,280
because remember Brad was a philosophy major and weird Else

903
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,880
tends to be the complete opposite. I encourage you to

904
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,400
check out both of those. Their next single didn't do

905
00:59:32,519 --> 00:59:35,440
so well, but it happens to be my favorite song

906
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:40,159
of theirs. It's the one we're going to hear as

907
00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:43,320
it did hit the charts. The Afternoon and Coffee Spoons

908
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,960
hit the charts, but not as high as it did, however,

909
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:50,159
help the album hit platinum sales with over a million sold,

910
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,119
and after that they just kept putting out new material,

911
00:59:53,199 --> 00:59:56,199
both as solo artists and as a band. They got

912
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,280
back together for a tour a few years ago, and

913
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,320
I did get to see them at City Wine in

914
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,760
New York City in twenty twenty three. It was a

915
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,719
terrific show with them getting back together again, so that

916
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,360
was a lot of fun. So to the song itself,

917
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,880
Afternoons and Coffee Spoons. Remember, Brad Roberts is an English

918
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:17,119
lit philosophy guy, and this song happens to be the

919
01:00:17,199 --> 01:00:21,039
result another result of the influence of poet T. S. Eliot.

920
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,079
We talked about never forgiving ts Eliott for his inspiration

921
01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:27,920
of the musical Cats in the past, amongst other things.

922
01:00:29,039 --> 01:00:32,119
This one, maybe we can forgive him for The song

923
01:00:32,239 --> 01:00:34,559
is based on the poem The Love Song of j

924
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,360
Alfred proof Rock, which I tried reading and I am

925
01:00:38,519 --> 01:00:41,719
very very much not an English lit and philosophy guy,

926
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,800
and I just couldn't make it past the first paragraph stanza,

927
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,519
what do you call it in a poem? I don't

928
01:00:47,519 --> 01:00:52,079
even know, so I tried, but nope. The song and

929
01:00:52,159 --> 01:00:54,880
the poem are both about being afraid of getting older

930
01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:57,639
and maybe dying a slow death, and the fear that

931
01:00:57,719 --> 01:01:01,679
comes with that kind of stuff. A typical lighthearted topic

932
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:07,280
with a contrasting lighthearted, kind of upbeat music underneath it.

933
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,639
The lyrics talk about the smell of being in a hospital,

934
01:01:11,199 --> 01:01:15,119
talks about wearing pajamas all day, which, if it's by choice,

935
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:19,400
sounds pretty cool. I was going to say, wait a minute, right,

936
01:01:19,559 --> 01:01:21,440
but if you're stuck in a hospital or a nursing

937
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,719
home and then you don't have a choice, not so good. Yeah,

938
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,519
losing your hair, good stuff all around.

939
01:01:29,159 --> 01:01:32,039
Speaker 4: You know that kind of Well, sometimes you can't, sometimes

940
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:32,480
you can't.

941
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, People Magazine, I love this description. People Magazine describe

942
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:42,440
the quintet as neo folky, pseudo hippies, sort of celtic,

943
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:48,679
dryly humorous, exceptionally literate pop band. Okay, that's a lot

944
01:01:48,719 --> 01:01:51,840
of it is I'm pretty descriptive.

945
01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:54,519
Speaker 4: That's a band name right there. I think there you go.

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01:01:55,239 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 9: Yep, it'll have to be a double album because you

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01:01:57,519 --> 01:01:58,880
have to open it because the time is going to

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go to the inside.

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01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:03,239
Speaker 1: The T shirt only comes into XL true.

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Speaker 9: So let's give it a listen. This is crash test

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Dummies afternoons and coffee spoof.

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01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 4: Oh is it?

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01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,239
Speaker 10: That makes me just a little bed creiser.

954
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 5: There is a breezer makes my breezing not so EASi.

955
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,159
Speaker 7: I've heard my lunch jack got to the next trades.

956
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:44,039
I've spurled the hospital ways, stop I disappear and hell

957
01:02:44,199 --> 01:03:00,199
lie sun jams in the day time times Well I

958
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:10,239
lay by side track weirdes sings of Barnas in Berfick order.

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01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:18,559
Speaker 10: Like Game the Doctor, my dis groom shun. I've tried

960
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,920
to stick to my frist room shunks.

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01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 7: Some a disappear on Helle some well jamas take time.

962
01:03:41,559 --> 01:03:46,559
Speaker 6: O news.

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01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,199
Speaker 4: We'll be measured out, measured out.

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01:03:51,280 --> 01:04:25,519
Speaker 7: Measured with God spooz in gs ilios. Maybe b I

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01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:34,440
could go blame by lay back, I could keep this results.

966
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:36,239
Speaker 4: Of I will get back.

967
01:04:39,639 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 10: I've watched for some of you.

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01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:46,239
Speaker 7: The best bye I've heard the rattle is my brother

969
01:04:46,440 --> 01:05:14,880
Guy disappearing here. Like Jams, we will be measured.

970
01:05:16,199 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 4: Mentioned us weird.

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Speaker 7: We will be measured mentioned weird.

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01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,559
Speaker 9: I remember hearing that the first time when I was

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in college, and it's just catchy. So that's one of

974
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,320
the feel that doesn't get old. I could hear that

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01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,559
over and over and you cannot mistake the voice. As

976
01:05:54,599 --> 01:05:59,280
Gail said, while it was playing, we were chatting very distinctive,

977
01:05:59,719 --> 01:06:03,519
and they were probably smart for going deeper because as

978
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,440
you've seen, as people get older, they tend to lose

979
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,119
the high notes. You don't really lose the into low notes,

980
01:06:09,679 --> 01:06:12,280
and they still sound good. Have you seen clips of

981
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:17,840
David Lee Roth's current tour. No, oh my, I don't

982
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,360
know if you want to, because it may destroy the memories.

983
01:06:20,039 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 13: You have of Van Halen.

984
01:06:21,679 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 9: So he's got terrific musicians with him, and most of

985
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,880
what I seen him do is stand up front and smile,

986
01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:31,039
grinning ear to ear, happy as could be to be

987
01:06:31,159 --> 01:06:34,239
there with the occasion of wow, yeah why, and he

988
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:39,320
looks like the background people do the work. Oh boy, Yeah,

989
01:06:39,519 --> 01:06:43,559
it's uh, it's something well it sounds painful.

990
01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 4: Now with the you know, all the electronic gizmos and stuff,

991
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,440
and they've been doing this for a while that when

992
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,360
they go for the high notes, they haven't they just

993
01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:57,840
sample their own record somewhere of the keyboard player just

994
01:06:58,039 --> 01:07:00,239
hits the note, you know, hits a button and.

995
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 9: He like, they can be done for. It's since the

996
01:07:04,039 --> 01:07:07,440
dawn of time there had been people backstage singing while

997
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,360
people on stage.

998
01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:11,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, that kind of nothing.

999
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,199
Speaker 9: Vince Neil is on par with what David Lee Roth

1000
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,000
is doing right now with.

1001
01:07:16,119 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 4: The Hey, there were some things that they couldn't do

1002
01:07:19,679 --> 01:07:21,599
even in the day. You know, they did it once

1003
01:07:21,679 --> 01:07:24,880
in the studio and that was that. Yeah, so they

1004
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,320
just drop it down and octave and hey, you know what.

1005
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 9: That's fine if they did that. But if they don't

1006
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,280
do that, and they're trying to you know, oh no.

1007
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, don't if he can't do it,

1008
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,480
like you said, drop Hey, Robert Plant can't hit those

1009
01:07:38,559 --> 01:07:40,199
high notes, but he can still sing.

1010
01:07:40,199 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 9: Right, Yes he can, and he adjusted accordingly.

1011
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:48,199
Speaker 6: He has matured very nicely, say in my opinion.

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01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 9: So we're leaving Gale on a happy note tonight, all right,

1013
01:07:56,039 --> 01:07:58,719
So that's all I've got. I thought I thought it

1014
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,679
was a catchy one. I was good, So, yeah, that

1015
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,199
was a good topic. I like that one.

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01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:03,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:08:04,719 --> 01:08:08,079
Speaker 9: Next week the plan and the following week the plan

1018
01:08:08,519 --> 01:08:11,199
is that Alison and Avon from Getting Dirty are going

1019
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,039
to be joining us for the annual pre far made

1020
01:08:14,199 --> 01:08:17,760
episodes that we like to do. Farm Maide is in

1021
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,800
Minneapolis this year. I have never been to Minneapolis, so

1022
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:25,199
I am looking forward to that and h Von can't

1023
01:08:25,199 --> 01:08:28,479
make the trip, but Alison and the group of us

1024
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,199
we're planning on visiting a Paisley Park which was Prince's

1025
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:34,920
house and studio, which man, they gouge you just to

1026
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,840
get in the door. So we're going to be doing

1027
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,920
the cheap tour, not the expensive tour. But I'm looking

1028
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,560
forward to that along with other things. And then after

1029
01:08:42,039 --> 01:08:44,640
I'm going to be hitting clear Lake, Iowa. The plan anyway,

1030
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,119
because the Buddy Holly and et cetera a plane crash site.

1031
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,600
The surf ballroom is there. They have a little museum

1032
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:51,960
and all that.

1033
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 4: Yeah that's still there.

1034
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,199
Speaker 9: That that Yeah, the surf ballroom I still function is

1035
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a functional venue.

1036
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've not been there, but I know it's it's

1037
01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:02,199
still yeah, it's still running yet.

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01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 9: They don't have an event for the night that I

1039
01:09:05,079 --> 01:09:07,119
plan on being there, but that may change. I'm gonna

1040
01:09:07,159 --> 01:09:08,880
keep my eyes open. We'll see, but at least I

1041
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,600
get to check it out. They have a little museum

1042
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,479
and you can walk out to the to the crash

1043
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,159
light and all that. So I will report back with

1044
01:09:15,239 --> 01:09:18,520
all that good stuff. But as of now, for next

1045
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,359
week and the week after, we'll have Alison and Levon

1046
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,640
and we'll be doing some farm made related stuff. So

1047
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,760
nice looking forward to that, right, nice looking forward to it,

1048
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,399
all right, So good time to pull the plug, I think, so.

1049
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:31,439
All right, thank you Crambones, excellent selections across the board,

1050
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:32,840
and thank you all for joining us for the Rock

1051
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,560
and Roll History Show. Don't forget to subscribe in your

1052
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,840
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1053
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,479
we do at Hudson River Radio. There is something for everybody.

1054
01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:42,960
Like I said, we'll be back next week and the

1055
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week after with some farm maide related material. Until then,

1056
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:51,359
be careful, We'll be safe and peace out. Everybody A rock.

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01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:56,119
Speaker 6: Cop bottom it okay, bye bye.

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01:09:58,119 --> 01:10:02,640
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