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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in OTV one of four five
ESPN Ben Rouge number two of the show. Here Alan
just checking the Dave port Noy video to make sure
that we can play it here there. But I mean
it's it's kind of what we knew is a couple
of more details. See Bob coming out from Portnoy about
how kind of it all played out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look again, the element here that none
of us would have expected outside looking in is the
Larry Ellison piece, without a doubt, as we'll see him
reference very quickly in this clip. There is something to
the uh like So I thought I thought it was
Dave pitching to Underwood and family and everybody else. Look,
I will make him a star, right and that'll be
better for his band long term, and then pitching to
a group of and I I thought he was talking
like a group of Michigan people, right, because they have
a super rich alumni based so I thought it was
him rallying the troops saying, look, I'll make him a
star and that'll give you, as somebody who's paying him
for name, image, likeness, better return on the back end,
because he'll be famous if he's doing advertised where you'll
get better return.
Speaker 2: What I never would have been. And that is true.
The marketing thing making that is absolutely part of the
pitch is true. What I had no idea. It wasn't
a group of investors.
Speaker 5: It was the wife of the third richest person in
the world, who I guess. I mean, you want to
talk about hell hath no fury like a woman scorned? Yeah,
how about this Jake, hell hath no fury like a
woman who had to live through the Brady Hoke era. Yeah,
because according to Dave's video, that is the thing. She
was at Michigan during the Brady hok era and basically,
after experiencing this year said no, no, no, no, no, no,
never again, not on my watch. My husband's got two
hundred and thirty billion dollars. Hey, honey, you know what
I want for Christmas? The number one player in the nation.
Speaker 3: That's true, that's true.
Speaker 4: Like, what do you get the woman who has everything,
the number one quarterback in the country, Price Underwood show.
Speaker 3: This is wild all right.
Speaker 4: Here is the video of Barstools Dave Portnoy explaining all
how it went down.
Speaker 6: So I was trending worldwide when it happened, I think
all the way up to nine. Everyone's like, oh my god,
Dave got Michigan and Bryce Underwood and all stem from
the pick them. When we were just talking, I said,
you know, I'll go to get us a quarterback and
I'll put my own money two to three million into
this thing, and I'll make sure we have a quarterback
and this will never happen again. That started the ball
rolling on what will be known forever as the Renaissance
of Michigan. I got a call from the Michigan football team,
right and they said, hey, there's this donor who wants
to talk to you. I said, I'm doing this myself.
I don't need to talk to anybody. Please. This woman's
a big fan of Barstool, big fan of you. She'd
love to talk to you.
Speaker 3: Her name is Jolan.
Speaker 6: Like, all right, yeah, listen, I don't I'm working on
a quarterback. I'm studying the field. What are we going
to do, they said, Oh her. Her husband, by the way,
is a guy by name Larry Ellison. You ever heard
of him? Said Larry Ellison, like the number two richest
guy on the planet. Yeah, I'll take that phone call
that night. We're on a zoom me, Jolan, Larry Ellison
and where talking?
Speaker 2: And I'm on Larry.
Speaker 6: Where'd you go to school? Oh? Illinois?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Joel?
Speaker 6: And what about you?
Speaker 2: Michigan?
Speaker 6: Interesting? When'd you go to school?
Speaker 2: I believe? She said, the guy who didn't wear hair.
Speaker 6: Headsets Brady Hope that era, Brady Hoke era. And she said,
I never want to live that era again with the
National champs. I have two kids. I can't stomach waking
up on a Saturday knowing that we're not the best
team on the field. I said, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: What do we have to do?
Speaker 6: What do we have to do? I know what we'll do.
Let's set up a call tomorrow night with Bryce Underwood
and his parents. And we talked and we pitched Bryce.
I said, listen, first of all, barstool and the marketing,
but more important, Larry Ellison and Joel and nobody can
match this. This guy's a legend. And we pitched, and
we pitched, but oh boy, Michigan's back. I didn't know
how it would come about the role I would play.
But Jolan on that first phone call, She's like, I
needed somebody to step up from Michigan and show that
they cared as much as I did. And then it
was like the Mega Powers uniting. Listen and I knew it.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 6: I texted Joelan I go, I'm like it was before
he's really known. It's like I'm getting all this credit.
I'm a little oneasy, goes. I don't need the credit.
I need national championships. I need to stack them. By
the way, Black Friday, we have a quick Black Friday.
Speaker 2: We have a Bryce.
Speaker 6: Underwood Bartool collab coming out in the store with him.
Proceeds going to Bryce Underwood.
Speaker 4: So all right, So that was part of the video,
Dave explaining how it all went down.
Speaker 3: And then of course Hunt had a video.
Speaker 4: Now Dave Fort and Noy's quote tweeting Hunt and so yeah,
a little bit of back and forth quote tweeted Hunt
did so Haunt had you know, his video out there
and Dave quote tweets instead. Of course, the Michigan staff
met with him a ton. He talked with Brady and
I love this part. LSU staff did everything right, space
space space checks notes, Brian Kelly's your coach, and the
crowd was chanting fire Kelly on Saturday.
Speaker 3: No, by the way, like that, like what are we doing?
Speaker 4: And also like some of the mixed booze when they
announced Scared nes Meyer's name.
Speaker 3: That's idiotic. That's dumb.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know it's it's it is. It is
both those things.
Speaker 5: It is also simply we know it at this point, right,
If you win, none of that happens.
Speaker 2: If you lose, it happens. It sucks.
Speaker 3: I mean, it really is more upset with stuff than anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Kelly's one thing.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, bood, see how how next year turns out.
Speaker 7: First off, ahead saying Brian Kelly's your coach when Sharon
Moore is your coach is quite the bold statement.
Speaker 8: Secondly, not knowing.
Speaker 7: Who Brady Hoke is nod look for a Michigan fan
when you die hard, that's just a really tough.
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, even I know Brady Hoke.
Speaker 7: Like they're stumbled over there and he was pointing to guys.
He's like, yo, y'all bail me out on this one.
I have no idea what the guy's name. Yeah, two
tough looks there for our guy Dave.
Speaker 5: Again, though, guys, doesn't this give you some peace of mind?
Because did we ever stand a chance if Larry Ellison
talks to your father and says.
Speaker 2: Hey, I want you to get to go to my school, like,
is anybody saying no? Right? Like like one of the
most powerful people?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 5: Oh, and then Tom Brady does as well. Oh, and
then Dave Portnoy's pitching you on. He's gonna make you
a star and you're a little.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's the exact It's the exact.
Speaker 5: Pitch that we thought he flipped him with, only with
way more bankroll and way more star power than I.
Speaker 2: Ever would have had me How brace Center would say
no to that? You can't say no to that.
Speaker 5: If I'm ay, if I'm a coach uh, or if
I'm a coach in LSU staff, like I said, I'm
I'm I'm you know this sucks still, But like I
don't know, Jake, I'd get a bit of peace of
mind from it.
Speaker 2: I feel like like I was I was dead in
the water. There's nothing you could do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was I going to do?
Speaker 4: I was never going to compete with that certainly that
you know, I agree with a lot of one Hunt
actually said in his breakdown of it, because like, you
did the things that you had to do to get
to this point to make it a decision, Like it
was still like down to the wire, and then finally
it became a point where you know, you couldn't deny
it anymore.
Speaker 5: I do think billionaires literally run the world. Yeah, you
have one of the most ten powerful people probably in
the world him into a high school recruiting and what
we're like, Well, he likes Joe Sloan.
Speaker 2: Are you a kiddmate? I don't care how much you
like this person. It's Oracle.
Speaker 5: It's two hundred and thirty billions. Also, this is very funny.
Jolan Ellison is Larry's fifth wife and does not even
appear on the internet as his current wife. Like he's
she's almost like a secret wife up to this point.
Google Jolan Elison you will not find a lot beyond
this recent state of articles.
Speaker 2: Also, he's eighty. If she was at school during Brady Hokeiers,
she's probably about forty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe can't make Joan maybe younger, maybe younger than.
Speaker 2: Why why Joline? Why?
Speaker 4: I mean, this is so aangerous president. If I'm Brett Beelima,
I'm like, what the hell? He's an Illinois grad?
Speaker 5: Yeah, but hey, we all know, look behind every powerful man,
there's a woman who has like, not control, but yeah,
there's a woman.
Speaker 2: Who has control over him.
Speaker 5: Like there's never been a man throughout history who has
not felt beholden to the whims of at least one woman.
And same thing for a powerful woman. Like at the
end of the day, everybody has somebody.
Speaker 2: That they're gonna listen to. And for Larry it's like, oh.
Speaker 9: You like this football thing, Okay, sure you want to court? Okay, Okay, sure,
Christmas is coming up. Okay, twelve million easy? I mean
Larry Elson farts twelve million. Oh yeah, he wakes up.
Speaker 5: In the morning and he lights his cigar with twelve
million dollars. It means nothing to him, It's a pittance.
But what is crazy to think, Jake, is what this
could mean for Michigan long term if they stay committed
and keep doing this.
Speaker 2: Because Portnoy seems to.
Speaker 5: Have really rallied the base here in recruiting joel in
and getting Brady and and and and everybody else.
Speaker 4: So stuff like it changes a bit, but they can
still impact, like what's going on?
Speaker 3: For sure?
Speaker 5: It it sucks that you had to be so directly
tied to this case. Uh, but I'll be damned if
this maybe isn't the single most fascinating recruiting story I've
ever heard of a secret wife, secret fifth wife of
the second to third largest richest man in the world,
showing up out of nowhere, to the point where portanoy,
like he said, didn't even know who it was.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm not going to take this woman's call. What
are you talking about? Oh wait it Lara? Okay, And
and all of a sudden everything is.
Speaker 4: How just think how how how this plays out? Like
how backwards this is? Okay, think of all things like
you can't do still, like even though it's you know,
the rules are completely different, Like you can't ask right now,
Brian Kelly a question about Bryce Underwood. He's not allowed
to talk about it. He can't staying by name, can't
do it, won't do it right. But you can't have
a billionaire set up a zoom call with the entire family,
lay out exactly how much money he is going to
give him for his three to four years of services.
You can have Dave Portnoy layout, here's what we're going
to do and make you a star.
Speaker 3: Here's how it's going to happen.
Speaker 4: We're going to have merch and all these things, and
you can't even mention the guy by name, like on
a coaches show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's uh.
Speaker 4: I'm not even saying like the parts of them having
that conversation, I'm not even saying like, how dare them?
I'm just saying, like, that's how messed up and backwards
everything still is well.
Speaker 2: It's just again.
Speaker 5: In a completely inappropriate analogy to draw. It reminds me
of World War One, right where you had a lot
of old school theory on war lining up with new
school killing technology and it created the worst environment ever
where you know, you're still thinking like, oh, let's line
up and shoot at one another. Only now we have
like you know, giant artillery and bombs and everything else
that we've never had before. And that same way, this
is the old school ridiculous monopoly rules of and i'man
monopoly like a monopoly like you know, trust the NCAA
butting up against the modern era of college football and
all the new technology in which everything has changed. So yeah,
it creates you still, it creates a lot of weird
friction type of moments like that that just make no
logical sense whatsoever.
Speaker 4: I was trying to find out, like why you were
talking there at tabat, like where Bryce Underwood would fall
as far as like all time quarterback recruits since two thousand.
I'm gonna see if I can maybe get his score,
because here's what the top fifteen looks like. Highest rated ever.
Trevor Lawrence number two, Justin Fields three, Bryce Young four,
Vince Young five, Quinn Yours six, Brought Berlin shout out
three and Great seven Let's Go seven, Terrell Prior eight,
Arch Manning nine, Matt Barkley ten, Jimmy Clauson eleven, Mark
Sanchez twelve, Russell shepperd shout out shep thirteen, Brody Croyle fourteen,
Dju fifteen, Kyle Wright.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember him from Miami. We
played him in a bowl game.
Speaker 4: So when LS you beat Miami that Peach Bowl, I
beat the hell out of them in the game, and
after the game. He was the quarterback for them, So
all those players outside of Kyle Wright at least got
a cup of coffee in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Bro I mean, look, people may not want admit it
because they're mad at Underwood, and I know people don't
love to start gazing, but more often than not, the
number one guy in the nation makes to leap like
it is. It is the exception, not the rule. Now,
he may not be, he may not live up to
whatever lofty expectations you have. He may I'll be this
or that, But like more often than that, not that
guy makes it to the NFL at least for a
year or two or something like that.
Speaker 2: So it's big lostrels.
Speaker 5: You be, like Kelly said on Monday, you know, the
class is bigger than one player. They just got to
hold the rest of it together.
Speaker 4: So Bryce Underwood would actually come in right behind Quinn
yours and right ahead of Brock Berlin, so he'd be
he's really sixth highest quarterback they've ever rated at two
four seven since they've been doing this since two thousand.
Speaker 2: Tight, Joe Lean, Joe Lean, the hell's wrong with your girl?
Speaker 5: I mean, you have everything in the world. Why do
you need a quarter quarterback. We got nothing down here.
Your husband's got more money than our entire state. And
I think that's actually true.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know for sure, but I would imagine that's
actually almost assured.
Speaker 2: Definitely.
Speaker 4: Say, if we all piled everything that we got together,
everybody put five.
Speaker 5: The entire GDP anything, everything, the entire network of Louisiana.
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe Larry Elson probably has more.
Speaker 4: All Right, I gotta read this comment before we take
a break, because it's pretty funny to me. Abo says, Uh,
Brodie Croyle still checks his bed at night to make
sure Lawn Landry is not under there. I mean I
still check my bed to make sure Lauren lance not
say you know what I've ever met the hell with
like quarterback recruits. Can we go get Lauren Landry a
safety that looks like him and plays like him. I
promise you I would enjoy that more than a quarterback
right now.
Speaker 2: True, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: I would love a Laurn Landry. I'll take a Craig Steltz,
I'll take let's see, hell, I'll take a Jack Hunt.
I mean, you give me a safety and I'll take him. Yeah,
I mean that's.
Speaker 8: A number one this offseason.
Speaker 4: Grant delp It, I mean, I mean t Taylorn, but yeah,
give me a bet I'll take I'll take a Curtis Taylor.
Speaker 3: Yep, Anny Taylor except Taylor shark shout up.
Speaker 2: I got Carnell Hatcher. I mean, yeah, No, list goes
on and on. Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hell, but here, here's look at some of the
best quarterbacks in the country. Okay, Curtis Rourke mac transfer right,
Darien Mensa from two later now rechrid freshman who's six
in the country and passifically, he's like six in yards
like Bryce Edwards.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
Speaker 2: It sucks to lose him.
Speaker 5: It doesn't mean you can't still get very good quarterback
play in one way or another. And I think it
starts like we said, Jake, with Garrett us My returning
and filling out your roster and long term plan from there.
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Speaker 8: Rouge.
Speaker 4: Tete you le the story here. Four potential new head
coaches for the New Orleans Saints. And you know it's
something because the last couple of weeks have gone really well.
The Rizzler I hadn't really talked about it or thought
about it. Now I want to do this, Tayte, you
pull it up. You give us the four names, one
at a time, and T Bob, you and I can
react to the names here and see how we feel
about them.
Speaker 5: Wait, hold on, I need you all to stall for
thirty seconds, ten fifteen seconds, hold on.
Speaker 3: Okay, well we got you, Taytay go ahead.
Speaker 7: Very interested to see what hefteen.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 7: This is from uh John Hendrix at SI dot com.
So he put four new candidates in there because you
know we know the hot names. Everybody out there thereybody
wants I mean you hear Vrabel you hear all the
young guys. So he put four together that were not
on any of the previous lists. So the first one
Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 4: Oh look, look, there's some people that are meant to
be certain things in life, and Cliff Kingsbury is a
couple of things.
Speaker 3: Right, good looking.
Speaker 4: Fella, can play really well in the air raid and
be an offensive coordinator at a very high level. He's
tried to be a head coach a couple of different
times and a couple of different levels. You know, there's
players that are fullbacks and not tailbacks. There's tailbacks on
our fullbacks. There's tight ends that are wise and not fs.
There's f's that are fs and not wise. You know,
you have a purpose in this life, and his purpose
is to call plays. It's not to lead a team.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, Jake.
Speaker 5: When you have an exciting young quarterback like Derek Carr,
how could you not want to invest in him with
the mind like Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 2: No, get the hell out of here, No one, No, Cliff.
Speaker 5: Kings Very not because because first off, because I do
think Jake is right, And secondly, contextually it doesn't make
sense because it's not like you have like a young
quarterback that you're leaning into or anything like that.
Speaker 3: I'm with you. So no, I'm out on that. That's
that's not gonna happen. That should not happen, all right.
Speaker 8: Next name.
Speaker 7: Viking's defensive coordinator Brian Flores.
Speaker 5: I mean, actually, he was pretty good in Miami, kind
of got screwed, got the short end of the stick
by managed by by ownership, didn't go along with their
tampering shenanigans. It's a deeply unexciting hire, as most defensive
coaches are. But I don't because look, I'm viewing every jake,
Like my mindset entering these conversations is this is a
coach that's probably not going to survive. Like I think
this coach is going to get handed a plate of
poop and be told to make a meal out of
it in terms of the cap and the roster and
everything else, and I think they will struggle. Now, knowing
the Saints, they don't like to be reactive, so I mean,
maybe he'd have a better chance of lasting than other places.
Speaker 2: But I view this kind of like a bridge opportunity.
Speaker 5: And so while Flores would be unexciting, he was good
at Miami, Like, I actually kind of liked that one.
Speaker 4: I don't hate that one, But I also I am
one of those people that likes to go the opposite
of what you've had.
Speaker 3: You've had a defensive head coach.
Speaker 4: I would like to maybe see an offensive head coach
here and.
Speaker 3: Not a retro.
Speaker 4: And that's nothing against him because his career was better
in Miami than Dennis Allen's was in Oakland. Because every
head coach had ever really been anywhere outside of like
three people ever in the NFL had been better than
when Dennis Allen was in Oakland.
Speaker 3: But uh, you.
Speaker 4: Know, maybe somebody that's not had that opportunity to be
a head coach, although I'm with you, t Bob, that
would certainly not be worst case scenario, and I would
love that way more than Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, Next name on the list.
Speaker 7: This is a guy who we had actually talked about
last offseason for the offensive coordinator position. He ultimately turned
that one down wound up taking the job with the Bengals.
Speaker 8: Dan Pitcher.
Speaker 5: Slight Pitcher, I mean, what is what is this? Are
you using a white name generator? Are you just making
us you an n Cua a creative player. I have
not what Dan pitcher, dan miss miss hurt No, not no, no,
in all seriousness actually and also okay, in all seriousness,
that's another guy who, like Jacob, you do want to
go opposite.
Speaker 2: Like you said, that checks that box.
Speaker 5: And because it's going to be transitional, you might as
well take a shot on a guy. The problem is
your pitcher and you're kind of one of the hot
young candidates. I think the bigger question would be, like
would you take the Saints job if you're going to be.
Speaker 2: Up for other jobs?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder what the value of the Saints' job
is like in those circles, like where is it going
to be with the ones that are going to be open.
It's an older team, it's got salary cap issues, you
don't have a young quarterback. There's a lot there's a
lot of questions that I would have to ask if
I'm taking that job.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the worst job.
Speaker 4: I think you know, you're going to have support and
all those type of things, but you don't have the
advantages of some of the other places that are going
to have the things that we said you don't have,
And so that that name.
Speaker 3: Type move right now.
Speaker 2: I mean the.
Speaker 5: Beagles offense has been good this year, right, but it's
like he has Joe Burrow, you know, and yeah, like
I would rather I mean, shoot, I really like what
Clint Kubiak's done. But whatever, I know, like, they're not
gonna they're not gonna be all right neck time.
Speaker 7: Speaking of Clint Kubiak, this is a guy that comes
from the Kyle Shanahan coaching trees.
Speaker 8: It would be a good fit there with Kyle.
Speaker 7: Shanahan Texans offensive coordinator Bobby Slowick.
Speaker 3: He's he's been a name that he.
Speaker 8: Interviewed for five head coaches.
Speaker 3: Bess around for a couple of years. Now. That's kind
of the mold that I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Like, look, if you ask me, hey, you get to
go pick one person in the NFL to be the
Saints head coach, it would be Ben Johnson, the Lions
offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't even I wouldn't hesitate.
Speaker 4: I would drive to Detroit to go pick him up
and bring him back down to New Orleans if they
wanted me to, because I would be that excited about
having that guy in your building. So if we're talking coordinators, sure,
he'd be you know, he'd be in the top three.
But Ben Johnson would be my number one choice. He's
an offensive mine. He's a young guy, he's not been
a head coach. He turned that entire like that offense
and they've got pieces. But like Jared Golf, we all
thought that he was going to go to the quarterback graveyard,
and now a couple of weeks ago he's in the
MVP conversation.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Look, they've got a great running back room, they've got
a star at receiver. But he gets the most out
of every single player. And the thing I love t Bob,
he uses every single weapon on that team, like you
can't you can't figure out what they're doing it because
he's spreading the football around to all his playmates.
Speaker 2: But here's the deal, though, Jake, that's how everybody feels
about Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3: You know that.
Speaker 2: So the Saints don't have a chance.
Speaker 7: John Hendrins in the article put out like, hey, I'm
not mentioning Vrabel Ben Johnson, like guys that are going
to kind of have their pick of the letter. He's like,
this would be like the next tier guys under the
radar guns that he put together.
Speaker 4: I mean, what job what jobs are going to be
open if we're going to talk about that, and I
just did as far as what the Saints don't have,
like what jobs are we expecting to be open that
are going to be more attractive? And again that's not
a rhetorical question, that's me asking the question what jobs's
open up potentially? But I mean that's yeah, maybe.
Speaker 5: You're one of these o seizo. You see Trevor Lawrence
and you're like, I can fix that guy.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah I would. I would Jets or Giants head
coach amount I would neither.
Speaker 8: I'm just I'm just naming ones available.
Speaker 3: All right, the bottom feeder team.
Speaker 2: Think Tony Pierce survives with I.
Speaker 4: Think he will year Cleveland. Cleveland's probably going to be open. Yeah,
all right, would you want to go there?
Speaker 2: Cleveland would be intriguing.
Speaker 5: I know that's been a bit of a graveyard, but
like I don't know that. I mean, but I guess
do you still have to deal with de Shaan Watson?
Speaker 3: Chicago would be probably.
Speaker 2: Chicago. I'd want to go to Chicago for sure, right,
who would it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You know what we're not talking about that might be
open that everybody would run to is Cincinnati. Yeah, yeah,
if Cincinnati becomes open, every coach it's ready to be
a head coach would line up and wait in the
line like they were going to a Taylor Swift concert
to get an interview for that job.
Speaker 7: Now would Dan Pitcher have the fast track to that?
Speaker 8: Though?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 5: You don't think your point to your point, Jake, like, yes,
I think the Saints are better jobs and some like
they're definitely better than, like you said in the count
than the Giants and the UH and the Jets, but
but maybe not as good as as UH as the others.
I mean, so are they talking about taking play calling
duties away from Sloak?
Speaker 2: Maybe right now? Like he's gotta going through it a
little bit, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're offense stolid, It is not.
Speaker 4: I mean, they've been able to run the ball with mixing,
but they're and they've had some injuries, but it hasn't
been what it was the last couple of years.
Speaker 5: But it's like, as dumb as this sounds, if you're
gonna go Sloak, like, in all seriousness, what has he
done over like a Kubiak? They both come from the
same tree, and I've been really impressed firsthand with what
Kubiak has done with these pieces offensively, so like, no.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like the slow one so far.
Speaker 5: I think Flories is the best option you've you've given me,
or maybe maybe maybe Pitcher, but I'd go Floria's over him.
Speaker 4: Yeah I would too, I would too, But again, like I,
I would like to see an offensive head coach. And
maybe that's me being biased, sure, but I just like
with Dennis Allen and the way that it's gone in
the past, and maybe I'm thinking too much of You know,
when Sean Payton came to New Orleans, he was a
young coach, hadn't been a head coach, and he was
the offensive mine and it worked for you there. I
know not every situation is going to be the same,
but uh yeah, I would prefer if the Saints hired
somebody that was getting their first opportunity as a head coach.
Speaker 5: I agree with you from their past decision making, Jake.
Maybe the only difference is if they think they're going
to commit to a rebuild and they want to see
if they can kind of bring up a young coach
during said rebuild.
Speaker 2: But maybe that's a bad strategy.
Speaker 5: Maybe the better strategy is a more experienced, the known
guy to get the rebuilt.
Speaker 2: Then after you've rebuilt it, then you maybe go there.
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5: There's a million different ways to play it. But again,
this is also why I don't hate the rizzler if
he finishes strong here is because I think it's going
to be a couple of years of kind of resetting
everything and maybe maybe finds a way to kind of
keep you a little frisky during that window.
Speaker 2: We'll see. He has a chance to prove it on
the field.
Speaker 4: I think the top jobs kind of finish this conversation
because I agree with you. I mean, he still has
a chance to go out there, maybe he earns the job.
I'm all for a special teams coordinator who has the
year of the entire team getting an opportunity. I think,
without question, if Chicago and our Cincinnati come open because
of their quarterback situation, because of some of the other
pieces on their roster, those are the two most attractive
that the Saints would never get into that category. But
I do feel like they live above the Jets, the Giants,
the Browns, some of those and maybe somewhere on par
with Jacksonville, even though Trevor Lawrence I understand that, but
still like the totality.
Speaker 3: Of the roster. Yeah, I agree, and Cowboys could be open.
Speaker 4: But Jerry Jones says he loves Mike McCarthy and he's
a super Bowl winning.
Speaker 2: Well, he's won a super Bowl, Jake.
Speaker 3: We don't have to worry about that. All right, We
will step away.
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Speaker 4: Off the Bench, all right, welcome back in to OTB.
I actually just went to two four seven Sports, and
you know, earlier I was looking up the all time
quarterback rankings and it was, you know, just a website
page that kind of had everybody and where Underwood would fall.
They have actually updated the recruiting rankings since he committed
to Michigan. Not as high as we initially thought. We
thought he'd be between Quinn yours and brock Berlin at
number six. They have redone their rankings and he would
now be twenty second all time.
Speaker 2: Oh great, you go, there you go.
Speaker 4: I feel better about it now in between Matthew Stafford
and Ryan parleiw.
Speaker 5: Okay, actually now I feel worse because both those guys
are pretty awesome.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, by the way, guys, shout out Hunt. The video
has a milli views. Let's freaking go Hunt.
Speaker 5: This is like the second time Hunt has gone mega viral.
Speaker 8: Though the huge forms.
Speaker 5: He was saying that he doesn't like the old whites,
and those got like a lot of TikTok.
Speaker 3: I sent a lot of views this way because I
just sat there and said, you old. I don't know
you old man. I don't know if you can say
the B word. I think you can't.
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Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, I dropped that every now and then.
Speaker 8: I think, okay, okay, or female does that a lot?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 2: Don't do it a lot. Let's let's recture does every segment.
Speaker 5: But yeah, good on Hunt Midley views and it's uh,
it's a pretty.
Speaker 2: Good take overall.
Speaker 5: You know, the only thing I disagree with is he
seems to be kind of lamenting that we live in
the world where that could happen, you know where it's
just like you do everything right, money wins.
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of you know, your worth is
what somebody is willing to pay you. And I am
a huge fan of.
Speaker 5: People getting paid big money, right of labor getting paid
and so like, if the market wants to pay them
twelve million, that's the market.
Speaker 2: And I agree.
Speaker 4: You know, if we're bringing this back to an LSU
angle and it's already happened, what's done is done, the
dust is settled. You mentioned this the other day to Bob,
and I'm right there with you. Okay, Now you have
up to two million dollars per year that you weren't
expecting to have. What do you do with it? How
do you attack your roster? What do you add to
your roster with that money? Again that you had allocated
for somebody else that's not going to be here? Okay,
because of all of the issues on the roster, quarterback
right now not the biggest, right, You're no, not at all.
Speaker 3: The ones that you.
Speaker 4: Have are at other positions, and I think there's no
more than the safety position. So what how many players
can you bring in minimum for really good players.
Speaker 3: What do you do with that?
Speaker 4: Like, you got to make sure that you hit on
those players, now, Like that's the situation you're in right now.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean that's the and that's why Kelly's comments are, Like,
I know, Kelly can't talk about Bryce Underwood, but he
talked about Bryce Underwood throughout that entire Monday press conference,
right And when he tells you straight up we are
going to hit the portal hard and even says we
may have the biggest portal class in America, I mean
that tells you everything you need to know right there, Jake. Right, Yeah,
they're feeling a bit burned, But like you said, you
got to when life gives you limits, you got to
try to make limonade. The lemonade in the instance is
taking those resources and allocating them and splitting one player
into maybe three or maybe like two elite ones or
maybe four good ones.
Speaker 2: Right, Like, there's there's a million different ways that you
could do it.
Speaker 5: But yet, yeah, you can't just take your ball and
go home, you know, And and who's ever putting up
that money, don't take your money and go home.
Speaker 2: Please leave it here and see what they can. Go
see what they can go get with it.
Speaker 4: Yes, and maybe throughout the show, maybe certainly into next
week a couple of days we'll have off. I can
kind of put this together because I had actually some
notes started and I put them here under the desk
to continue them, and I guess they got picked up.
But I was trying to lay out, like where you're
going to need players after who you're going to lose
to the NFL Draft because that number is not as
big as it normally is, you don't think, And then
also who you can retain, like that's going to be crucial,
Like can you get somebody that is a fringe type
of first round player to come back to school and
improve their draft stock and make them from a fringe
first round or to a sure fire first round pick.
Like there's a couple of guys on this roster, Harold
Perkins and Amory Jones that I think would fit into
that category, te Bob, And can you get those players
back on your roster?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, And that's the other part. I mean, that's retention. Retention.
It starts with retention.
Speaker 5: Because those resources you know, right immediately, I guess retention
in the signing class once't you know who's gonna sign.
Then you can budget that out because what you agreed
to during recruiting. Then you get to retention, and then
you start hitting the portal. Now you're doing all of
this at once, but that's kind of the order maybe
in which those numbers are are are are finalized a bit.
Speaker 4: And remember those portal players on Sunday morning, you were
going to have massive exodus throughout college football, and those
players will start to pop up on Sunday morning as
they put themselves into the transfer portal. And so, Seebob,
it is going to start, and it is going to
start very soon, and you have to evaluate all of
those players immediately fast.
Speaker 3: It is speed dating.
Speaker 4: You've probably done your homework on who you think might
enter the portal. You've already had some players enter the portal,
but it is going to start and they'll start here
coming up this weekend.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hopefully you've been doing some good tampering scouting, looking
at other rosters, kind of predicting where a guy's gonna go.
Speaker 2: Who you're an incident. I know all that goes on. Now,
we've read plenty of articles about it, so.
Speaker 5: I'll be interested to see who else you's prioritizing here
early on.
Speaker 4: All right, we will take our last break of our
number two. We've still got so much more coming your way.
Actually going to put together our pontoon parlay. We're gonna
play what's the ticket all the games we typically play
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