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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening to Depictions Media Radio. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Policy and Rights the show. Ups. Welcomer Policy, Human Joy,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Policy and Race. Here depictions of media Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Michael Clogs. So I got or I

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<v Speaker 1>should say, I've found this real from a person I follow.

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<v Speaker 1>She's here in Canada and she's speaking about something that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was supposed to write an executive order about

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<v Speaker 1>pharmaceuticals and medication, and he was going to write this

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<v Speaker 1>executive order that would force all the pharmaceutical companies to

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<v Speaker 1>cut their prices to the people of the United States

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<v Speaker 1>by thirty to eighty percent. Okay, there's a couple problems

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<v Speaker 1>with this one. Between the US and Canada that well

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<v Speaker 1>nine of medical research is done between the two countries.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the reasons why between the United States and

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<v Speaker 1>Canada that we have some of the highest races in

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<v Speaker 1>pharmaceuticals out there the rest of the countries. What they

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<v Speaker 1>what what a lot of countries actually do around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of the United States, is they the

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<v Speaker 1>government buys the medication and then mass distributes it to

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<v Speaker 1>hospitals and pharmacy and pharmacies. Uh thereafter, Thus forcing the

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<v Speaker 1>pharmaceutical companies to pay a bulk buy an a bulk rate,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that whoever this country is gets a massive

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<v Speaker 1>discount on over and above what Canadians and Americans actually pay. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the the issue has been for years, who should actually

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<v Speaker 1>be paying for this research and shouldn't some of this,

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<v Speaker 1>the these costs of of of health research be spread

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. Well, while the United States and Canada

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<v Speaker 1>team to team to bear to the back of the

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<v Speaker 1>backbone of that, it has been silently decided that well

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<v Speaker 1>the citizens of the United States and Canada should also

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<v Speaker 1>bear the backbone of the cost of all that research.

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<v Speaker 1>Which case, we usually get the most cutting EDDS research

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<v Speaker 1>in our in our healthcare to to to begin with,

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<v Speaker 1>we get it before anybody else in the world has

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<v Speaker 1>a chance at it. And there are some other reasons

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<v Speaker 1>of government slowdowns and things like that. But let's get

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<v Speaker 1>back to Donald Trump and his executive order. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>put both posted a comment back to my friend's video.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, well, one, Donald Trump seems to have forgotten

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<v Speaker 1>something and that forgivefulness is that the United States has

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<v Speaker 1>a decentralized federal system. Yes, folks, it is true, Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump can rate all the executive orders they want in

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<v Speaker 1>each and every state has the right to ignore each

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<v Speaker 1>and every one of them. Oh but wait, if your

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<v Speaker 1>pharmaceutical company sits inside of a state that has decided

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<v Speaker 1>to ignore that executive order, you know I have to

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<v Speaker 1>pay any attention to it. Kind of interesting that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But when we go all the way back to the

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<v Speaker 1>three men who created the United States the Thirteen Colonies,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and John Adams, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest issues that they had with the crown

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<v Speaker 1>was how everything had to be centralized. They were at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, it took almost a month to get a

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<v Speaker 1>letter to go back and forth. So Parliament was deciding

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<v Speaker 1>what was happening in the colonies three months months after

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<v Speaker 1>the fact of something actually happening. So they wanted more

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<v Speaker 1>immediate action. Well, one of the ways to get that

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<v Speaker 1>immediate action and to ensure that communication would for a

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<v Speaker 1>particular territory or state would be more efficient, was to

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<v Speaker 1>decentralize the federal government so that each and every state

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<v Speaker 1>could decide on what they needed to do because of

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<v Speaker 1>their own living conditions. Thus, two hundred is some years later,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Donald Trump decided that he is going to write

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<v Speaker 1>an executive order that is broad sweeping and expecting it

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<v Speaker 1>to be forced across the country by his federal minions

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<v Speaker 1>or maga people is unconstitutional. It's unconstitutional because one, it

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<v Speaker 1>is written in the Constitution how each state is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to decide its own fate based on what is happening

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<v Speaker 1>within that state. Each state has its own conditions, there's

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<v Speaker 1>own living conditions, its own happenings that didn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>be addressed by that state. Okay, so what he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>violates what these three men want in place. And as

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<v Speaker 1>far as parties are concerned, it's like that was the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of partisanism right there. These three had to figure

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<v Speaker 1>it all out. There were some other things that were

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<v Speaker 1>written into the US Constitution that they want it written

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<v Speaker 1>into the US Constitution and build into the government. That

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<v Speaker 1>would eliminate the US Supreme Court. There wouldn't be have

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<v Speaker 1>There shouldn't have been one, because they didn't want a

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<v Speaker 1>broad court deciding over the fate the entire country each

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<v Speaker 1>without having each individual state being able to decide for itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Trump, if you would have paid attention in physics class,

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<v Speaker 1>and I should say in Civics class. You would have

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<v Speaker 1>known this. You would know that. Oh, that's right. I forgot.

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<v Speaker 1>When Donald Trump is asking about defending the Constitution, He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I never took an oath to defend the Constitution. So

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't even know that he has that he's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to defend the Constitution. He doesn't even acknowledge that really

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<v Speaker 1>did the document actually even exist? So everything I just

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<v Speaker 1>said is moved. Anyway, Let's move on. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to Canada and uh, we're gonna talk. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hear from two premiers to the top premiers of

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<v Speaker 1>the West, shall we say, mister David eb and Danielle Smith. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the premiere of British Columbia and the premiere of Alberta. Okay, Alberta. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>their resource drilling literally drilling and mining province. That is

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<v Speaker 1>their thing. More specifically with their biggest operation in the

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<v Speaker 1>drilling and mining is the tar Sans, which produces beechamen,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a form of crude oil develop by steam

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<v Speaker 1>blasting the tarzans until the oil is actually released. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it does sound like an environmental nightmare. That's what you're thinking, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It is that Alberta releases tons of carbon into the

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<v Speaker 1>air every year. Matter of fact that Danielle Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>her Minister to the Environment have come up with a

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<v Speaker 1>plant that would actually cap off how much carbon each

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<v Speaker 1>company would pay for at about ninety five million tons.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was. Let me look that up to

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<v Speaker 1>be certain. Yeah, they're freezing the price at ninety dollars

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<v Speaker 1>per ton of emissions. I've kind of got that wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Simply simply put that businesses have to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>operate and believe it or not, as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>petroleum itself is concerned, the world actually does need it.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody concentrates their focus on the petroleum needed to be

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<v Speaker 1>turned into fuel. But one of the biggest uses of gasoline,

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<v Speaker 1>yes I did say gasoline. You know that petroleum mixture

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<v Speaker 1>that we pump into the cars. One of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>uses for it is actually creating ny lone polyester fibers.

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<v Speaker 1>Next biggest use for it before we even get to

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<v Speaker 1>using it as fuel. Next biggest one is plastic. Different

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<v Speaker 1>types of plastic resins are developed, again using refined petroleum gasoline,

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<v Speaker 1>so that we have the plastics that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>create the things that we have in our society. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at your cell phone. The plastic in

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<v Speaker 1>it was developed from gasoline. Thus the tarsands is always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be needed as long as we need to

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<v Speaker 1>keep creating plastic. It doesn't matter if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to recycle it or not. It's going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>So we need to add, Yes, albert and Nice to

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<v Speaker 1>control their emissions. They need to make sure that the

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<v Speaker 1>companies that are actually doing this work are actually controlling

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<v Speaker 1>their emissions and keeping them down. Yes, absolutely true. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you ask Danielle Smith, he will tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>that is absolutely true. If you ask their their Ministry

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<v Speaker 1>for the Environment, they will again tell you that that

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely true. It has to has to stay under control.

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<v Speaker 1>But and here's the caveat is it also has they

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to operate. So there are some

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<v Speaker 1>things that carbon capture technology. Alberta is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>front runners in that carbon technology. If we look at

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<v Speaker 1>China and we look at the sunrise in China, in

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<v Speaker 1>the all day sun in China, you see this literitybitty

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<v Speaker 1>dot like it's a forest fire forever happening. That's the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go to Alberta and you look up in

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<v Speaker 1>the sky you will see bright sunlight, which means that

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<v Speaker 1>these companies are acting responsibly, that they are doing what

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<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to do in order to capture that carbon

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<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't keep getting released into the air. They

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<v Speaker 1>are acting as clean as possible. It's dirty work. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm defending the Alberta a little bit. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the folks Alberta, and you're gonna hear more from the

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<v Speaker 1>Minister of the Environment for Alberta as she also explains

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about that. So it's dirty work.

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<v Speaker 1>It needs to it needs to be cleaned up. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the environment that is left behind for with the tarzans

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<v Speaker 1>does need to be reinhabrable so that, hey we get

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<v Speaker 1>we have trees being able to grow again. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Next announcement that we're gonna hear from from the western provinces,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, British Columbia, the furthest most western province. And hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta love British Columbia because they also have control

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<v Speaker 1>of a large bit of the seaports that actually help

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<v Speaker 1>traffic goods across Canada. So pretty cool province, uh, Premier

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<v Speaker 1>Mister David Ebe He's making some announcements and what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a healthcare crisis in the British Columbia, not

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<v Speaker 1>enough doctors and nurses. Some of that is due to

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<v Speaker 1>due to the fact that there was a big argument

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<v Speaker 1>during COVID over well now all the doctors and nurses

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<v Speaker 1>agreed with the vaccination programs, so they spoke up, they

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<v Speaker 1>got fired and which created even more of a shortfall

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<v Speaker 1>than what there was in British Columbia before the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>So now they're trying to catch up. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that they're not going to do is rehire

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<v Speaker 1>those who fought against them about the about the vaccines

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<v Speaker 1>to begin with, there's some pros and cons to that.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll say that for another commentary. But what they are

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<v Speaker 1>looking to do and what and what they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>make an announcement about is is they're looking to hire

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<v Speaker 1>nurses and recruit nurses from the United States to come

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<v Speaker 1>to British Columbia and help shore up that shortfall of nurses.

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<v Speaker 1>Which that's a pretty good program because to become a nurse, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a former engineer and in the nineteen eighties when

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<v Speaker 1>I got my degree, I had a debt load of

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<v Speaker 1>over a quarter of a million dollars for it. So

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<v Speaker 1>nursing is a science degree, and like all other science degrees,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes with a boatload of debt. And so recruiting

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<v Speaker 1>nurses from the United States and offering them a way

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<v Speaker 1>to get a job right away so that they can

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<v Speaker 1>start paying off that huge amount of debt is a

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<v Speaker 1>great idea. So we're gonna hear hear that. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>also going to hear from a nurse from the United

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<v Speaker 1>States as she's talking about some of the benefits that

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<v Speaker 1>it would have to both the United States nursing programs

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<v Speaker 1>as well as British Columbia healthcare system, that there would

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<v Speaker 1>be a larger supply of nurses to come in. The

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<v Speaker 1>next thing, I would hope to see that they would

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<v Speaker 1>do the same thing for doctors to get more people

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<v Speaker 1>into the system. And let's face it, the way things

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<v Speaker 1>are going with the United States and Donald Trump, who

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to understand the do no harm of the

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<v Speaker 1>hippocratic o, and it keeps putting up walls and rope

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<v Speaker 1>blocks that would disable the doctor to stop from doing harm.

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<v Speaker 1>They would leave doctors facing criminal charges for issues around

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<v Speaker 1>women's healthcare, especially First Columby is a great place. Come on, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>come up here, be a real doctor, be a real nurse,

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<v Speaker 1>really help people, be on the cutting edge, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Canada. So anyway, let's go ahead and listen to

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<v Speaker 1>what both premiers and their guests actually had to say

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<v Speaker 1>as they make the announcements about hey, finding finding a

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<v Speaker 1>new new source for nurses from the United States and

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<v Speaker 1>ensuring that the environment of Canada stays as clean as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, everyone, and thank you so much for joining

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Sizzy Chanton.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm BC's Parliamentary Secretary for Senior Services and Long Term Care,

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<v Speaker 2>and before we begin this morning, I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge with respect the history, customs and culture of the

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<v Speaker 2>Lacongan people known today as the song Gees and as

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to see so many people here in support

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<v Speaker 2>of today's announcement, and I'd like to take a moment

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<v Speaker 2>to introduce our special guest today, David Ebe, Premier of BC,

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<v Speaker 2>Josie Osborne, Minister of Health, Rachel Taylor's Rachel Smith Taylor,

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<v Speaker 2>nurse from who is joining us today virtually Louise Ertz,

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<v Speaker 2>acting Registrar and CEO, and the BC College of Nurses

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<v Speaker 2>and Midwives, Doctor Melissa Duff, the Family Physician Board Chair,

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria Division of Family Practice. I also note that Minister

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<v Speaker 2>without further ado, I would like to invite Premier David

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<v Speaker 2>eb to the podium to make an exciting announcement.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Thanks Susie.

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<v Speaker 4>It's great to see everybody, and really nice to see you,

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<v Speaker 4>Mayor Alto, and congratulations to Victoria for such a beautiful

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<v Speaker 4>clinic here supporting so many people. Mister Osborne will be

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<v Speaker 4>going into some detail about the clinic, but I just

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<v Speaker 4>want to congratulate everyone who's involved in this. Doors opened

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<v Speaker 4>about a year ago and they provide critical TEAMV team

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<v Speaker 4>based care supporting family physicians in delivering care to British Columbians.

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<v Speaker 4>Really glad for the work that happens here. What I

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<v Speaker 4>am going to speak to about, though, is something a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit different. It's about how we get the doctors

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<v Speaker 4>and nurses to be able to staff places like this.

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<v Speaker 4>Hospitals and healthcare sites across the province and one of

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<v Speaker 4>the big opportunities that we've seen is recruiting health professionals

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<v Speaker 4>from the United States. The uncertainty that's currently a president

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<v Speaker 4>in the United States related to the Trump administration presents

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<v Speaker 4>a significant opportunity for British Columbia in an array of

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<v Speaker 4>areas to recruit Americans, but particularly in the healthcare sector.

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<v Speaker 4>We believe that by recruiting American healthcare workers into our system,

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<v Speaker 4>they're able to hit the ground running with their experience

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<v Speaker 4>and a system that's very similar to ours, and they'll

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<v Speaker 4>help less in our goal of delivering more care to

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<v Speaker 4>more British Columbians faster. Now. Some of the factors that

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<v Speaker 4>are driving increased interest in British Columbia that we're seeing include,

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<v Speaker 4>we believe our commitment and our support for science and

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<v Speaker 4>the evidence that science directs us to around everything from

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<v Speaker 4>healthcare to climate change. That we are jurisdiction that respects

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<v Speaker 4>reproductive rights and acts to protect reproductive rights for British Columbians,

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<v Speaker 4>and then we take care of people regardless of how

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<v Speaker 4>much money they have through our universal public healthcare system.

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<v Speaker 4>So these are proud and competitive advantages for us, and

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<v Speaker 4>it is driving interest from American healthcare professionals, and we

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<v Speaker 4>have some increased evidence for that. Just in early April,

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<v Speaker 4>we made significant changes to how American trained nurses are

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<v Speaker 4>able to get to work in British Columbia, cutting the

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<v Speaker 4>weight for nurses from up to four months to a

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<v Speaker 4>matter of days being able to get to work here

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<v Speaker 4>in the province. Since that early April implementation date, we

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<v Speaker 4>have seen some significant impacts. Applications from US trained nurses

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<v Speaker 4>to British Columbia are up one hundred and twenty seven percent.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred and seventy seven nurses have applied since the

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<v Speaker 4>implementation of this new program, and one hundred and thirteen

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<v Speaker 4>have been granted registrations already. Since March, just before the

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<v Speaker 4>implementation of this new program, we've had twelve hundred doctors, nurses,

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<v Speaker 4>and allied health professionals that have expressed interest in working

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<v Speaker 4>in British Columbia. It could be attending a webinar or

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<v Speaker 4>accessing information about how to apply to work here. We're

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<v Speaker 4>going to continue to ramp up these recruitment efforts, including

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<v Speaker 4>direct ad campaigns down the West coast of the United

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<v Speaker 4>States through Oregon, Washington, and select cities in California. Our

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<v Speaker 4>goal is to ensure that we're not missing this opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>to ensure that we're strengthening our healthcare system for all

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<v Speaker 4>British Columbians. This recent development in relation to nurses builds

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<v Speaker 4>on work that we've already done to recruit internationally trained

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<v Speaker 4>health professionals. We have recruited over nineteen hundred international medical

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<v Speaker 4>graduates that have registered in the province between January twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty three to April twenty twenty five, and over sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>hundred internationally educated nurses have registered from January twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>three to the end of last year. Over the last

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<v Speaker 4>two years, we've added one thousand new family doctors, connecting

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds of thousands of British Columbians to the primary care

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<v Speaker 4>that they need. Now, we know there's a lot more

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<v Speaker 4>to do, but we also know that there's an opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>here to really ensure that people get the care that

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<v Speaker 4>they need. We're continuing our efforts to recruit and retain

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<v Speaker 4>and train healthcare professionals, including at the new Medical School

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<v Speaker 4>at SFU Surrey. My message to Americans who are watching this,

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<v Speaker 4>it's very straightforward. In British Columbia, you will be valued,

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<v Speaker 4>your principles will be respected, and you will have the

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity to provide care to people, not based on how

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<v Speaker 4>much they earn, but based on the level of care

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<v Speaker 4>that they need. You will be part of building healthy

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<v Speaker 4>communities in the best place on Earth, and you are

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<v Speaker 4>very welcome here. I say, just briefly, President Trump's loss

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<v Speaker 4>is British Columbia's gain. With that, I'm going to pass

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<v Speaker 4>things back to Parlimentary Secretary Chant.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Premiere Ebe. What an amazing way to commemorate

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<v Speaker 2>National Nursing Week.

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<v Speaker 3>And International Nurses Day.

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<v Speaker 2>As a registered nurse myself, I know the dedication and

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<v Speaker 2>invaluable contributions that nurses bring to our healthcare system, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thrilled to see that all the US trained and

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<v Speaker 2>certified nurses, nurse practitioners, doctors and aled health workers that

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<v Speaker 2>are interested in coming to British Columbia. Next, I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to invite Minister Josie Osborne to the podium.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much, Susie. Thank you to everybody for

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<v Speaker 5>having us in this beautiful space. It's great to see

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<v Speaker 5>everybody out with us, and I totally agree with Susie,

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<v Speaker 5>this is a terrific announcement to be talking about during

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<v Speaker 5>National Nurse Week and International Nurses Day. So you've heard

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<v Speaker 5>from Premiere EB about the progress that we've made even

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<v Speaker 5>in this past month since April fourth, and it's so

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<v Speaker 5>exciting to see. Streamlining the registration process is indeed going

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<v Speaker 5>to help us strengthen our publicly funded healthcare system here

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<v Speaker 5>in BC. And like Premier EB said, what used to

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<v Speaker 5>take on average four months is now done in just.

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<v Speaker 6>A few days.

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<v Speaker 5>Having a US based nurse come to British Columbia and

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<v Speaker 5>receive the license to be able to practice here. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a huge win for all of the nurses out there

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<v Speaker 5>who've been dreaming of building a.

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<v Speaker 6>Life here in BC. And it's a huge win.

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<v Speaker 5>For patients and communities across British Columbia as well. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's not all. We are working closely with health authorities,

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<v Speaker 5>with the regulatory colleges, with health Match BC and other partners,

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<v Speaker 5>with a real team BC approach to this. We're going

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<v Speaker 5>to support U trained healthcare providers through a dedicated set

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<v Speaker 5>of webinars, a place where they can learn more about

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<v Speaker 5>living and practicing in BC, the steps that people need

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<v Speaker 5>to take to move here, to live here, to raise

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<v Speaker 5>their families here and be part of our public healthcare system.

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<v Speaker 5>So we are guiding them step by step, and that

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<v Speaker 5>means credentialing and immigration, and it's so important that they

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<v Speaker 5>We're soon launching a marketing campaign and we will be

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<v Speaker 5>marketing in Washington and Oregon and California, letting people know

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<v Speaker 5>about what the opportunities are here in BC. And this

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<v Speaker 5>is just the kind of bold and solutions based actions

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<v Speaker 5>that our province is taking, and we're really proud to

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<v Speaker 5>be leading the way. For the nurses who arrive here

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<v Speaker 5>in British Columbia. The opportunities are just tremendous. They are

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<v Speaker 5>able to care for patients throughout our province and in

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<v Speaker 5>a really wide variety of settings, so whether it's a

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<v Speaker 5>example is where we're standing right now, and that's the

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<v Speaker 5>Victoria Primary Care Network Allied Health Center, a center which

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<v Speaker 5>opened in this location on April twenty fourth. It is

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<v Speaker 5>a terrific example of our team based primary care strategy

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<v Speaker 5>which we launched in twenty eighteen for healthcare professionals here

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<v Speaker 5>in Victoria who are part of the Victoria Primary Care Network.

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<v Speaker 5>It means they are part of a team where they

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<v Speaker 3>In the region.

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<v Speaker 5>For patients, it means a more comprehensive and wrap around

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<v Speaker 5>a set of healthcare supports, better support for these people.

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<v Speaker 5>It is very clear to us that US professionals are

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<v Speaker 5>are offering just that. So together, it's part of building

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<v Speaker 5>a better healthcare future and we can't wait for all

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<v Speaker 5>the nurses out there to be a part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, back Team City, Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 2>Minister Osborne. The TMBC approach that we've been taking is

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<v Speaker 2>so important because it leverages the expertise of everyone so

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<v Speaker 2>we can better support the healthcare workers who've made the

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<v Speaker 2>decision to move over here. Nurses will be supported from licensing,

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<v Speaker 2>through immigration and recruitment. Thank you to Premier eb and

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<v Speaker 2>Minister Osborne for their leadership in these bold efforts. To

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<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit more from a nurse's perspective, we

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<v Speaker 7>Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 7>share my experience. Recently, I had the pleasure of visiting Nanaimo,

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<v Speaker 7>warmth and hospitality. From the moment we arrived. Locals eagerly

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<v Speaker 7>welcomed us, offering to show us around, showing us sites

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<v Speaker 7>about the area, and even providing rights to me and

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<v Speaker 7>my partner while we were there. The staff at Nanaimo

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<v Speaker 7>Regional medic Regional General Hospital were equally gracious, offering us

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<v Speaker 7>The experience reinforced my aspiration to contribute to Canada's healthcare system.

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<v Speaker 7>As a registered nurse and as an internationally educated nurse

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<v Speaker 7>from the United States, I'm actively pursuing licensure through the

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<v Speaker 7>British Columbia College of Nurses and Midwives. I'm encouraged by

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<v Speaker 7>the province's initiatives to streamline this process, including the financial

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<v Speaker 7>support for credentialing assessments and bridging programs. My goal is

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<v Speaker 7>to bring skills and dedication to British Columbia's health care sector,

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<v Speaker 7>supporting communities like Nanaimo, and I look forward to the

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<v Speaker 7>opportunity to serve and grow within Canada's dynamic health care environment,

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<v Speaker 7>and I am deeply blessed to have had this opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Rachel. I'm so happy to see

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<v Speaker 2>your excitement to come and work in our province. Next,

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you, Parliamentary Secretary, and thank you to Minister Osborne

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<v Speaker 8>for inviting me to this great event. It's also wonderful

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<v Speaker 8>to have Premier MeV with us today. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 8>begin by respectfully acknowledging the land on which we gather

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<v Speaker 8>as the traditional territory of the Lagonkans people known today

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<v Speaker 8>as the Esquimalt and Song these nations. I give thanks

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<v Speaker 8>medicines of these lands and waters have existed here for

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<v Speaker 8>over nine thousand years. As a representative for a provincial regulator,

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<v Speaker 8>I also acknowledge and affirm the inherent rights to health

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<v Speaker 8>and wellness held by all First Nations, Innui and Mayti people.

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<v Speaker 8>BCCNM has worked collaboratively with the government and other partners

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<v Speaker 8>for several years now to improve the application process for

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<v Speaker 8>internationally educated nurses. It's a complex process, but in this case,

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<v Speaker 8>a simple solution has created a big impact. By focusing

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<v Speaker 8>on the similarities between nursing in Canada and the US,

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<v Speaker 8>things like education, scope of practice, regulatory exams, and by

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<v Speaker 8>American nurses without sacrificing patient safety. Before this, we needed

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<v Speaker 8>other nursing regulators and credentialing agencies to confirm a US

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<v Speaker 8>nurse's registration history and education, which often resulted in delays.

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<v Speaker 8>But through collaboration with our US counterparts, we can now

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<v Speaker 8>confirm this information through nurses a licensure database that gives

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<v Speaker 8>us the information we need when we need it. This

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<v Speaker 8>change has expedited registration decisions as has been shared, but

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<v Speaker 8>maintains the safeguards to ensure that a nurse can practice

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<v Speaker 8>safely and competently. In BC. It's a win for applicants

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<v Speaker 8>and for British Columbia. I'd like to thank the Ministry

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<v Speaker 8>for their partnership in this important work and we look

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<v Speaker 8>forward to continuing to collaborate ensuring we have a strong,

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<v Speaker 8>competent nursing workforce in BC.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Louise, and thank you to the

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<v Speaker 2>BC College of Nurses and Midwives for making it easier

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<v Speaker 2>and faster for registered nurses, trained and certified in the

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<v Speaker 2>US to come to our beautiful province. This is very

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<v Speaker 2>important work and I'm happy to hear that it's already

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<v Speaker 2>bringing results. Next, I would like to invite doctor Melissa

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<v Speaker 2>Duff to speak about this great place where we are today,

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<v Speaker 2>the Victoria Primary Care Network Allied Health Center.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you, good afternoon everyone on behalf of the Victoria

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<v Speaker 9>Division of FE Family Practice Board. I'm excited to see

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<v Speaker 9>the upgraded Victoria Primary Care Network Allied Health Center fully operational.

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<v Speaker 9>This is more than just a building. It's a game changer.

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<v Speaker 9>It secures and expands access to culturally sensitive, patient centered

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<v Speaker 9>team based care for years to come, and that matters

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<v Speaker 9>a lot for two key reasons. First, physician led team

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<v Speaker 9>based care is the future for better patient health outcomes.

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<v Speaker 9>It helps more patients get the support they need more

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<v Speaker 9>quickly from the clinician best equipped to help. And second,

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<v Speaker 9>team based care increases the number of family physicians in

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<v Speaker 9>our community. It allows family doctors to focus on what

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<v Speaker 9>we do best, delivering high quality, relationship based medical care.

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<v Speaker 9>This kind of work setting attracts new family doctors and

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<v Speaker 9>most importantly, it helps them stay. This upgraded center expands

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<v Speaker 9>access to team based care by accommodating and attract acting

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<v Speaker 9>the Allied Health professionals we need on the Victoria Primary

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<v Speaker 9>Care Network team. It's a big win for patients, physicians, clinicians, and.

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<v Speaker 6>Our entire community.

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<v Speaker 9>We're deeply grateful to everyone who helped bring our shared

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<v Speaker 9>vision of sustainable team based care to life. This milestone

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<v Speaker 9>is a testament to the power of physician led innovation

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<v Speaker 9>within a strong community of practice, all made possible through

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<v Speaker 9>meaningful partnerships and trusted community relationships. We look forward to

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<v Speaker 9>continuing to work together to advance primary care in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonderful applause, and thank you doctor Duff, and thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for hosting us in this beautiful health center.

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<v Speaker 2>The expanded Allied Health Center strengthens team based care and

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<v Speaker 2>is tailored.

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<v Speaker 3>To the needs of the community.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a win for our medical professionals who can

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<v Speaker 2>do the job that they are best trained for, and

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<v Speaker 2>for the patients in their communities. Thank you to everyone

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us today and Premier Ebe and Minister Osborne

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<v Speaker 2>will now take questions.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you to everyone for joining us today. Just a

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<v Speaker 10>reminder to all reporters on the line to press Star

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<v Speaker 10>one to enter the key. We're going to start with

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<v Speaker 10>one question in one follow up from reporters in the room,

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<v Speaker 10>Richard Sussman, Global News.

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<v Speaker 11>Premier, you've mentioned the number of people who have shown

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<v Speaker 11>interest in coming to British Columbia. Do you have any

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<v Speaker 11>numbers on exactly how many Americans have been hired so

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<v Speaker 11>far to work in our system? And have there been

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<v Speaker 11>any concerns raised about salary matching. A lot's been made

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<v Speaker 11>that in the US healthcare system, a for profit system,

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<v Speaker 11>that doctors and nurses can often make more money than

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<v Speaker 11>they would make here, especially with the dollar. Have there

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<v Speaker 11>been any concerns raised around ensuring that you can find

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<v Speaker 11>a salary that works.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks Richard, We have someone that has specific numbers in

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<v Speaker 4>the Okay, we'll have to get you those specific numbers, Richard.

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<v Speaker 4>On the number of Americans in the system. The numbers

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<v Speaker 4>that we have are for people who have applied to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to practice here. Since the big changes in

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<v Speaker 4>April which I've indicated are up one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 4>seven percent over her previous numbers. The overall interest that

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<v Speaker 4>we're seeing from Americans coming to practice in British Columbia

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<v Speaker 4>is the ability to practice in universal healthcare system, the

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<v Speaker 4>ability to match lifestyle that they're looking for in more

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<v Speaker 4>rural communities, often an outdoor lifestyle. When I was in

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<v Speaker 4>Grand Forks, one of the big attractors for healthcare workers

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<v Speaker 4>to come to work in Grand Forks was mountain biking,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, and skiing and other types of lifestyle attractions

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<v Speaker 4>here in British Columbia. And so what we're seeing is

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<v Speaker 4>Americans making that decision about how to balance the life

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<v Speaker 4>that they want to live and where they want to

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<v Speaker 4>live with the work that they do and the impact

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<v Speaker 4>they have in community. And for many Americans, the balance

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<v Speaker 4>is coming up that they want to move to British Columbia.

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<v Speaker 10>Do you have a follow up?

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<v Speaker 11>Prime Minister Carney will be unveiling a cabinet tomorrow morning.

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<v Speaker 11>He's probably already made his selections. But if you were

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<v Speaker 11>to give him advice, what would you like to see

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<v Speaker 11>on behalf of British Columbians.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's certainly an important, critical job of the Prime

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<v Speaker 4>Minister to choose a cabinet that's going to advance his agenda.

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<v Speaker 4>For British Columbia's agenda. What we see is that our

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<v Speaker 4>province has the capacity to be the economic engine for Canada,

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<v Speaker 4>for the vision that the Prime Minister has of a

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<v Speaker 4>Canada that stands on our own two feet, that's less

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<v Speaker 4>dependent on the United States. You know, our ports phase

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<v Speaker 4>two thirds of the world's population. We have the critical minerals,

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<v Speaker 4>we have the energy that can really drive this. We

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<v Speaker 4>have the cheap electricity and the clean low carbon products

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<v Speaker 4>the world is looking for, and we have amazing people here.

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<v Speaker 4>The critical piece for us is that there are cabinet

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<v Speaker 4>ministers around the table who understand that, who are coming

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<v Speaker 4>from British Columbia, who understand both the challenges and the

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<v Speaker 4>opportunities that this province represents, and will enable the Prime

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<v Speaker 4>Minister to realize his vision by seeing and understanding how

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<v Speaker 4>critical British Columbia to that vision of Canada.

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<v Speaker 10>Katie DeRosa, CBC.

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<v Speaker 12>You said the registration process is now down to four days,

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<v Speaker 12>But what's the timeline for when those nurses and doctors

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<v Speaker 12>would actually arrive and why does the pressurelease largely focuses

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<v Speaker 12>on the number of nurses, but is it not the

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<v Speaker 12>same for physicians. It seems like there's less focus on

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<v Speaker 12>physicians or are you having less traction on that side.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, today's announcement is about the work that we've

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<v Speaker 4>done with the College of Nurses and Midwives to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to accelerate that process for registered nurses and other

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<v Speaker 4>types of nurses in the province, and work that they've

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<v Speaker 4>done around triple tracking so you can be assessed about

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<v Speaker 4>being a registered nurse and an LPN and a healthcare

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<v Speaker 4>assistant assists with international nurses. But the work that's really

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<v Speaker 4>showing the traction is this fast tracking around Americans. Because

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<v Speaker 4>of the very similar system. We're doing similar work with

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<v Speaker 4>the College of Physicians and Surgeons. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 4>more to share about that work that we've been doing

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<v Speaker 4>with the College separate from today's announcement. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if the Minister has anything specifical she wants to add

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<v Speaker 4>about that in terms of I don't know if our

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<v Speaker 4>representative from the College has anking to share about the

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<v Speaker 4>actual experience of nurses coming up and when they get

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<v Speaker 4>to work versus when they register. I don't know you're

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<v Speaker 4>able to Okay, I mean really, once you're registered, you're

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<v Speaker 4>able to practice here in British Columbia, and so that

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<v Speaker 4>just means the only decisions you have to make is

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<v Speaker 4>where you're going to work and how to get yourself

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<v Speaker 4>and your family up here.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, good morning everyone, and thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm here today with the Minister of Environment and Protected Areas,

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<v Speaker 13>Rebecca Schultz, to talk about our important step Alberta is

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<v Speaker 13>taking to protect our province's economy and help our businesses

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<v Speaker 13>stay competitive. The current tariffs being imposed by the United

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<v Speaker 13>States are increasing costs, disrupting supply chains, and creating uncertainty

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<v Speaker 13>for industry, making it challenging to operate efficiently and stay

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<v Speaker 13>globally competitive. Our government is committed to supporting Alberta businesses

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<v Speaker 13>and industry and doing everything we can to ensure they

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<v Speaker 13>remain competitive across global markets. We will continue to take

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<v Speaker 13>action to make Alberta one of the most business friendly

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<v Speaker 13>jurisdictions in North America by removing burdensome red tape, eliminating

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<v Speaker 13>unnecessary regulations, and keeping taxes low. Our industry from energy

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<v Speaker 13>to agriculture not only empower our economy, but the wealth

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<v Speaker 13>that they generate allows us to provide Alberta's with the

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<v Speaker 13>essential services they rely on, from healthcare to education. That's

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<v Speaker 13>why it's so important that we listen to industry concerns

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<v Speaker 13>and help develop a business environment where they can thrive.

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<v Speaker 13>And what we have heard from industry is that any

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<v Speaker 13>further increases to the industrial carbon tax past one hundred

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<v Speaker 13>dollars per ton would be detrimental to their businesses and

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<v Speaker 13>would diminish their competitiveness in the market. As why today

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<v Speaker 13>we're announcing that, effective immediately, Alberta is freezing the industrial

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<v Speaker 13>carbon tax under Alberta's Technology and Innovation Emissions Reduction System

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<v Speaker 13>or TIER, at ninety five dollars per ton of emissions.

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<v Speaker 13>This price was set to increase to one hundred and

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<v Speaker 13>ten dollars per ton next year and continue increasing to

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<v Speaker 13>one hundred and seventy dollars per ton by twenty thirty. Now,

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<v Speaker 13>let me be clear, Alberta remains committed to reducing emissions

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<v Speaker 13>through the development and implementation of new technologies, not unrealistically

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<v Speaker 13>high taxes, while responsibly powering the world for decades to come.

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<v Speaker 13>Alberta's Industrial Carbon Tax system TIER has been in place

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<v Speaker 13>since two thousand and seven. Our approach has reduced emissions

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<v Speaker 13>in intensity by over twenty two percent and reduced overall

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<v Speaker 13>emissions by an estimated seven point two percent while production

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<v Speaker 13>increased by ninety percent.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a reasonable system in place that's.

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<v Speaker 13>Working, but any additional increases passed one hundred dollars per

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<v Speaker 13>ton will wipe out any of the benefits we've seen.

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<v Speaker 13>That means fewer jobs for Alberton's, less revenue to invest

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<v Speaker 13>in our public services, and decreased innovation across our industries.

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<v Speaker 13>But instead of supporting our industry, Ottawa wants to increase

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<v Speaker 13>their industrial carbon tax to one hundred and seventy dollars

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<v Speaker 13>per ton by twenty thirty. Now, if industry told us

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<v Speaker 13>that any increase passed one hundred dollars per ton would

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<v Speaker 13>be harmful, you can imagine what one hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 13>dollars ton industrial carbon tax would do to our industry.

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<v Speaker 13>That would be devastating to Alberta's economy. This is yet

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<v Speaker 13>another example of Ottawa overstepping into our provincial jurisdiction with

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<v Speaker 13>reckless policies that damage our industry. This is on top

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<v Speaker 13>of the anti industry and antidevelopment policies passed by Liberal

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<v Speaker 13>and NDP politicians in Ottawa to cat production landlock Alberta's resources,

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<v Speaker 13>destroy our reliable and affordable electricity grid, and ultimately to

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<v Speaker 13>put Alberton's out of work and ruin our economy. With

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<v Speaker 13>the change in government south of the border, it is

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<v Speaker 13>essential that we have a reasonable carbon pricing system, not

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<v Speaker 13>one that will price our industries out of global markets.

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<v Speaker 13>By freezing Alberta's industrial carbon price, we are acting in

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<v Speaker 13>the best interest of all Alburtons. We are providing certainty,

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<v Speaker 13>stability and economic relief to the businesses that contribute so

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<v Speaker 13>much to all of Canada, and we are supporting the

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<v Speaker 13>energy producers whose expertise and innovation are quite literally shaping

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<v Speaker 13>the world's energy future. But this freeze doesn't just benefit

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<v Speaker 13>our energy industry. It's also agriculture, forestry, petrochemicals, and other

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<v Speaker 13>industries that make the products the world needs, that contribute

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<v Speaker 13>so much to our economy and create jobs that enable

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<v Speaker 13>hard working Albertons to provide for their families.

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<v Speaker 3>We will stand up for.

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<v Speaker 13>Our province, support our industries, and protect Alberta's Alberton's livelihoods,

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<v Speaker 13>but make no mistake. Our government will always do what

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<v Speaker 13>is right for Alberta no matter what Ottawa says. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 13>and I'll turn it over to Minister Rebecca Schultz to

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<v Speaker 13>provide more details.

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<v Speaker 14>Thank you very much, Premier. The world wants our energy

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<v Speaker 14>and resources. Energy demand is soaring and countries around the

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<v Speaker 14>world are seeking the petrochemicals, minerals, timber and other products

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<v Speaker 14>that we produce every single day. But for the past

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<v Speaker 14>ten years, our province has faced a tidal wave of

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<v Speaker 14>anti energy, anti agriculture, and anti resource policies from the

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<v Speaker 14>federal government. They've added costs, increased delays, and effectively hung

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<v Speaker 14>a close for business sign on Canada's door, whether for LNG,

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<v Speaker 14>oil and natural gas, or the many other resources that

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<v Speaker 14>we are blessed with. For years, this environmental agenda from

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<v Speaker 14>Ottawa was telling Canadians and Albertans that if they just

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<v Speaker 14>paid more in taxes and punitive regulations, the tradeoff would

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<v Speaker 14>be that we're reducing global emissions and helping the environment.

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<v Speaker 14>Somehow we would be better off as a Canadian economy. Instead,

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<v Speaker 14>this federal platform delivered a stalled economy and increased costs

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<v Speaker 14>for everyday Canadians and Canadians have started to ask why

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<v Speaker 14>while the entirety of our country contributes just one point

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<v Speaker 14>five percent of global emissions, and yet it wasn't too

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<v Speaker 14>long ago when we were paying over thirty four percent

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<v Speaker 14>of the entire world carbon taxes because of this approach,

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<v Speaker 14>the largest share of any country. As Premier has mentioned

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<v Speaker 14>many times, it has been a litany of antidevelopment policy

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<v Speaker 14>that's only made us a less attractive place to invest

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<v Speaker 14>and sent that capital elsewhere. It's been a long time

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<v Speaker 14>for Canada to focus on It's been long time for

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<v Speaker 14>Canada to focus on a common sense approach like we've

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<v Speaker 14>done through our tier system here in Alberta.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course, the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 14>Imposed by the potential tariffs imposed by the United States

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<v Speaker 14>are making it even harder for Alberta industries to compete

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<v Speaker 14>and expand costs. Arising materials are harder to get and

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<v Speaker 14>more expensive when they arrive. Supply chains, of course, are

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<v Speaker 14>less predictable, and we are already seeing the impacts companies

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<v Speaker 14>are delaying hiring, pausing investment, or pushing major capital spending

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<v Speaker 14>into the future during tough times. Competitiveness is the difference

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<v Speaker 14>maker our industries, whether they drill mind, manufacture, process or

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<v Speaker 14>build are among the best and most productive in the world.

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<v Speaker 14>Cannot risk falling behind, and we cannot continue to put

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<v Speaker 14>jobs in our economy at risk with the uncertainty of

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<v Speaker 14>US tariffs coupled with ideological policy. Over the past months,

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<v Speaker 14>we have been engaging with industry on the future of

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<v Speaker 14>our tier program. We know that regulation is up in

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<v Speaker 14>twenty twenty six and we wanted to hear how industry

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<v Speaker 14>felt about what's working well and what presents a challenge. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 14>concerns were raised about the impacts of a carbon price

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<v Speaker 14>reaching over one hundred dollars per ton. That is why

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<v Speaker 14>effective immediately, we're freezing the industrial carbon price. This will

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<v Speaker 14>provide a stable, predictable and effective environment for companies to

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<v Speaker 14>operate and remain competitive. It will also benefit sectors across

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<v Speaker 14>the economy, including agriculture, forestry and manufacturing, helping reduce costs,

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<v Speaker 14>grow industries.

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<v Speaker 6>And of course keep Elburton's working.

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<v Speaker 14>We're keeping Alberta competitive, standing up for our workers or

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<v Speaker 14>industries and our economy. We are absolutely a leader when

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<v Speaker 14>it comes to energy and resource development, but also when

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<v Speaker 14>it comes to emissions reductions. This is our jurisdiction not Autawa's.

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<v Speaker 14>And if the federal government wants to work together to

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<v Speaker 14>keep our economy strong, respect the constitution and do the

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<v Speaker 14>right thing for the environment, they can follow the path

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<v Speaker 14>forward that has been outlined by the Premiere over the

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<v Speaker 14>last couple of weeks. Thank you, and we are happy

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<v Speaker 14>to answer any questions that you may have.

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<v Speaker 15>Awesome, Sure, we'll start off here with questions on the floor.

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<v Speaker 15>Of course, one question one fall up before making our

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<v Speaker 15>way to the phones, and i'll see you show of

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<v Speaker 15>hands from the room. We'll start off with Janet, then

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<v Speaker 15>go to Shay.

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<v Speaker 1>Our question for the Premier.

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<v Speaker 16>So previously you'd said that you couldn't comment or presuppose

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<v Speaker 16>any potential referendum question put to the populace. The Alberta

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<v Speaker 16>Prosperity Project this morning released the question that they intend

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<v Speaker 16>to move forward with, which is do you agree that

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<v Speaker 16>the Province of Alberta shall become a sovereign country and

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<v Speaker 16>cease to be a province of Canada. And so they're

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<v Speaker 16>waiting until they can get about six hundred thousand matures

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<v Speaker 16>before pushing forward with the petition.

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<v Speaker 1>So, if any.

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<v Speaker 17>Referendum question has to respect.

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<v Speaker 16>The treatise, would you be willing to put that question

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<v Speaker 16>on a ballid to.

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<v Speaker 13>Alvertens well, As I mentioned, there is a citizen initiated process.

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<v Speaker 13>Having people sign up on a website saying that they

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<v Speaker 13>will ultimately sign a petition is one thing. Getting the

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<v Speaker 13>physical signatures signed up is another. That's why we have

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<v Speaker 13>to wait for the process to play out. We haven't

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<v Speaker 13>yet passed the legislation, and so as the legislation passes,

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<v Speaker 13>it will be pretty clear what the timeframes are. I

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<v Speaker 13>know that there are several groups out there that are

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<v Speaker 13>proposing different timelines different questions, and so I'll wait to

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<v Speaker 13>see which one garners enough signatures and actually gets a

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<v Speaker 13>petition campaign going before I would comment on that. But

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<v Speaker 13>I've made my position clear. I support a sovereign Alberta

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<v Speaker 13>with any United Canada, and it's my job to see

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<v Speaker 13>if we can get a new deal with Ottawa so

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<v Speaker 13>that I can convince more Elbertons to feel the same.

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<v Speaker 16>Whose job is it to determine whether or not a

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<v Speaker 16>question being put to Alburton's is constitutional or respects the Charter?

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<v Speaker 16>Is it the government's job to say we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that's a legal question.

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<v Speaker 16>Is it elections Alberta's job.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I think it was the Supreme Court's job, and

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<v Speaker 13>so the Supreme Court and their Clarity Act gave some

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<v Speaker 13>pretty clear ideas about what you needed to do, which

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<v Speaker 13>prompts a negotiation if something like that was ever to

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<v Speaker 13>be successful. So I think that the Clarity Act and

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<v Speaker 13>the constitutional or the court discussion around it gives a

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<v Speaker 13>pretty clear path that wasn't just to apply to one province.

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<v Speaker 13>So I think that no one's asking these questions in Quebec,

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<v Speaker 13>even though they do have the party in Quebecco up

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<v Speaker 13>pulling higher than anyone else and they've just elected twenty

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<v Speaker 13>four separatist MPs. So I think that perhaps maybe talking

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<v Speaker 13>to some of the scholars in Quebec, because they've obviously

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<v Speaker 13>worked through that and they're much further ahead in the

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<v Speaker 13>discussion than any other region.

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<v Speaker 15>Awesome, and we'll go to Shay and then Jackie's kind

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<v Speaker 15>of epibility next.

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<v Speaker 9>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much for doing.

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<v Speaker 9>Your questions for the premiere.

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<v Speaker 18>We've heard you talked to earlier today about economic stability

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<v Speaker 18>and relief. I've heard from some economists who say that

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<v Speaker 18>any plan for Alberta to separate from Canada is not

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<v Speaker 18>economically viable. And they fear that investment would flee from

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<v Speaker 18>this province as a result of that instability. I know

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<v Speaker 18>you said that your government is not putting forward this

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<v Speaker 18>referendum yourself, but you are leaving the door open. So

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<v Speaker 18>are you risking economic stability by.

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<v Speaker 13>Jamizel well we as I said, we support citizen initiated referenda.

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<v Speaker 13>The whole purpose is to see have a process for

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<v Speaker 13>citizens to be able to put those questions forward. I

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<v Speaker 13>would say that would be a question for any of

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<v Speaker 13>the groups that are leading that because we aren't. We're

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<v Speaker 13>leading the effort to have a strong and sovereign Alberta

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<v Speaker 13>within the United Canada, and that.

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<v Speaker 3>Will be what I would be advocating for.

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<v Speaker 18>But by lowering the threshold, you're leaving the door open.

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<v Speaker 18>And you yourself acknowledged talking with Bashi Capello's last week

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<v Speaker 18>that you needed to provide an outlet or also could

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<v Speaker 18>create a new party.

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<v Speaker 5>So therefore, I guess are you.

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<v Speaker 18>Worried about fractures within your own part As a result

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<v Speaker 18>of this, we're seeing new groups, whether it's the albert

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<v Speaker 18>Prosperity or the Republicans, saying that they're hearing a lot

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<v Speaker 18>of support on this I.

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<v Speaker 13>Think single issues should be put on a single question

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<v Speaker 13>on a ballot if citizens want it to be. Our

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<v Speaker 13>political party has dozens, if not hundreds of policies, and

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<v Speaker 13>so I don't intend for the United Conservative Party to

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<v Speaker 13>become a single issue party. We intend to continue to

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<v Speaker 13>support their founding documents, which that we are supporting constitutional

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<v Speaker 13>sovereignty within the United Canada. So once again, I think

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<v Speaker 13>that those questions are for the various groups that are

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<v Speaker 13>putting forward the referendum questions.

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<v Speaker 15>Then we'll go to Jack. Then we'll take a couple

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<v Speaker 15>from the phones before coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>To the room.

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<v Speaker 19>Jack wrote with the Canadian Press, how long is the

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<v Speaker 19>three us going.

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<v Speaker 13>To be in place?

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<v Speaker 20>Work?

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<v Speaker 1>For now?

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<v Speaker 6>It's indefinite.

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<v Speaker 14>The point is is that when we went out to

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<v Speaker 14>talk to industry the carbon tax. Of course, industry is

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<v Speaker 14>feeling the pinch right now. We are in an agreement

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<v Speaker 14>with the federal government to ensure that we can continue

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<v Speaker 14>to manage this on behalf of Alberta industry. But the

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<v Speaker 14>price going above one hundred dollars does make us wildly uncompetitive,

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<v Speaker 14>which is not a common sense approach at a time

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<v Speaker 14>like this, where the threats from outside our borders are

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<v Speaker 14>so great, and the world is looking for Canadian energy

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<v Speaker 14>right now, for energy security, energy affordability, and of course

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<v Speaker 14>to meet their environmental goals. So right now we are

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<v Speaker 14>implementing this freeze and definitely it will likely, as Premier

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<v Speaker 14>said in her speaking notes, spark a conversation with the

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<v Speaker 14>federal government. We're hoping that, just as we heard a

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<v Speaker 14>message about economic growth and nation building throughout the campaign,

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<v Speaker 14>that this Liberal government is going to take a different

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<v Speaker 14>approach when it comes to energy production and emissions policy.

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<v Speaker 19>And then as a fall up to that, if I'm

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<v Speaker 19>not mistaken, like the escalating price was the point of

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<v Speaker 19>carbon tax schemes, right, Like you're supposed to with the

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<v Speaker 19>esplating price to incentivize businesses to invest in their own

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<v Speaker 19>emissions reduction. Freezing the price kind of seems contrary to that,

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<v Speaker 19>but it also kind of actually, in my head, breeds

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<v Speaker 19>instability because an indefinite freeze is something that will change,

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<v Speaker 19>and they knew that businesses knew when the price was escalating,

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<v Speaker 19>So how was that?

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<v Speaker 13>I would say that the fact that the first action

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<v Speaker 13>that Prime Minister Mark Carney took was to eliminate the

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<v Speaker 13>retail carbon tax shows you that that price had gotten

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<v Speaker 13>too high to bear, and I think that it's reasonable

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<v Speaker 13>to expect that it's a parallel in the business community

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<v Speaker 13>that the price has gotten too high to bear. If

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<v Speaker 13>you have a timeframe of going out to twenty fifty,

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<v Speaker 13>there's no reason to try to front end loan everything

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<v Speaker 13>by twenty thirty. That's been foundational to the dispute we're

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<v Speaker 13>having with the federal government is let's coordinate around a

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<v Speaker 13>twenty fifty target so that you can have a reasonable

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<v Speaker 13>time frame to implement technology, develop new solutions, see the

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<v Speaker 13>retirement of equipment. That's foundationally why we're having the dispute

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<v Speaker 13>with Ottawa the one to seventy. Could it have been

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<v Speaker 13>possible if the Americans were following suit. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 13>but you may have noticed there's a change of direction

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<v Speaker 13>in the United States since November, which has caused a

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<v Speaker 13>massive recalibration of everything in Canada. And if we want

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<v Speaker 13>to be able to compete and integrate with our largest consumer,

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<v Speaker 13>then we've got to have a reasonable level of increase. So,

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<v Speaker 13>as you've seen, we're not proposing it goes to zero.

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<v Speaker 13>We're just proposing that it stays where it is. Well,

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<v Speaker 13>we have some kind of recalibration about how this is

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<v Speaker 13>going to impact the business community. What we have heard

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<v Speaker 13>from the business community is that it's too high. And

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<v Speaker 13>I think if you look at Quebec's carbon price, Quebecs

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00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:39.960
<v Speaker 13>carbon trading price is lower than this, and so that

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<v Speaker 13>is also one of the reasons why we're frustrated with

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00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:44.280
<v Speaker 13>the federal approach is that.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't apply equally to all of the provinces.

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<v Speaker 13>That was absolutely true on the retail tax and it's

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00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.679
<v Speaker 13>certainly true on the industrial pricing as well. So this,

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<v Speaker 13>I hope will prompt a conversation for us to get

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00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:57.920
<v Speaker 13>in sync with the federal government. That's what we've been

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00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:02.159
<v Speaker 13>asking to do ever since I talked to Markcartney's predecessor,

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<v Speaker 13>and it was I mentioned this in our first conversation.

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<v Speaker 13>And it may be as you go forward that there's

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<v Speaker 13>a tolerance to increase it, but I can tell you

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<v Speaker 13>I think that the business community has reached its limit.

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<v Speaker 13>And why does it matter. We're competing for capital with

863
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:18.320
<v Speaker 13>the United States. Those dollars can flow anywhere, and if

864
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:21.199
<v Speaker 13>they if we get too far ahead of where the

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00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.639
<v Speaker 13>Americans are, then all of those billions of dollars of

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00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:27.119
<v Speaker 13>investment will not come here and that will impact our economy.

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<v Speaker 15>So thanks Shachran. Take a few questions from the phones

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00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:32.440
<v Speaker 15>now operator. Could you put through our first color please.

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00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Chris Varco with Calgary Herald.

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<v Speaker 7>Buy.

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<v Speaker 21>These are questions for the Premiere Premier. What would you

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00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:43.599
<v Speaker 21>say to companies like Dow or Air Products or sell

873
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:47.039
<v Speaker 21>that have made and announced investments in the decarbonization projects

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00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:49.559
<v Speaker 21>in this province based on the carbon price going up

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00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:52.159
<v Speaker 21>to one hundred and seventy dollars a carbon price that

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00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:55.079
<v Speaker 21>your government agreed to back in November of twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we will talk with them.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, what I've been noticing is that the price

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00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:03.559
<v Speaker 13>being signed on contracts for differences is eighty six fifty

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00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:06.239
<v Speaker 13>and so that was one of our considerations is that

881
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:10.280
<v Speaker 13>that's kind of the guaranteed price that businesses were anticipating.

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00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:12.480
<v Speaker 13>And so we feel like by being about that, we've

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<v Speaker 13>got a little bit of a give on that. But

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<v Speaker 13>I'll turn it over to the minister to see she

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<v Speaker 13>has anything more to say.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 14>And just last week I met with a number of folks,

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00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:28.440
<v Speaker 14>including Dow, Nova Chemicals and others and signaled that this

889
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:31.159
<v Speaker 14>is the direction we were moving in, given it is

890
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:33.280
<v Speaker 14>a very different time that we're in right now than

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00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:36.599
<v Speaker 14>we were back in twenty two, both in terms of

892
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:39.280
<v Speaker 14>what the federal government was campaigning on at that time.

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00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:41.840
<v Speaker 14>It was a far more activist agenda. We just came

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00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:44.920
<v Speaker 14>out of a federal election where the Prime Minister was

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00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:49.760
<v Speaker 14>campaigning on protecting the Canadian economy and building nation building projects,

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<v Speaker 14>so that is different. The other is the threats, of course,

897
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:56.400
<v Speaker 14>an uncertainty that we're seeing south of the border, and

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00:58:56.480 --> 00:59:00.679
<v Speaker 14>so those industries understood the decision we were making, again

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<v Speaker 14>recognizing I think that it's unfair to artificially increase a

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00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:10.519
<v Speaker 14>carbon tax to benefit a small amount of projects and

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00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:13.719
<v Speaker 14>then leave the entire rest of industry in a position

902
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:16.639
<v Speaker 14>where they're oncompetitive that is what freezes out investment. As

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00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:20.760
<v Speaker 14>the Premier said, they understood and did not oppose the

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00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:23.480
<v Speaker 14>direction that we were moving in, and we have been

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00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:26.199
<v Speaker 14>very frank with industry over the last number of months

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00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:30.039
<v Speaker 14>just to address the competitiveness and certainty piece. We didn't

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00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:34.039
<v Speaker 14>want industry facing additional uncertainty at the provincial level, so

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00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:37.360
<v Speaker 14>we've been very transparent about the options we're looking at.

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00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:41.119
<v Speaker 14>The feedback that we've been getting on tier, including freezing

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00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:44.039
<v Speaker 14>this price. It was specifically based on the feedback that

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00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:45.400
<v Speaker 14>industry provided to us.

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<v Speaker 21>And Premier just to follow up on that, What will

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00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:56.760
<v Speaker 21>this do to the province's plans to reach carbon neutrality,

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00:59:56.800 --> 00:59:58.800
<v Speaker 21>to get twenty fifty? What does this do for your

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00:59:58.800 --> 00:59:59.840
<v Speaker 21>own emissions target?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I hope that it is supportive of it, because

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01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:06.320
<v Speaker 13>that's what we've always said, is that we believe that

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01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:10.679
<v Speaker 13>the price is only one aspect, but the innovation is

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01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:14.280
<v Speaker 13>another aspect. And Minister Schultz has done a tremendous job

920
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:17.360
<v Speaker 13>of supporting a wide variety of projects through.

921
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:18.679
<v Speaker 3>Emissions Reduction Alberta.

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01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:23.159
<v Speaker 13>That has seeded a number of amazing innovations, including geothermal,

923
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:27.880
<v Speaker 13>doing analysis of small module or nuclear. We've got a

924
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:31.440
<v Speaker 13>direct air capture facility doing pilot projects in central Alberta.

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01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:34.360
<v Speaker 13>She could probably go on and mention many more. So

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01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:36.039
<v Speaker 13>those are the kind of things that I think are

927
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:38.840
<v Speaker 13>going to get to success for us. It also gives

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01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:43.760
<v Speaker 13>us the timeframe to twenty fifty to rekickstart the Pathways

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01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:46.519
<v Speaker 13>project with the new government, and if we can get

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01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:50.840
<v Speaker 13>a decarbonized Bitchumen, I think that that also sends a

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01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:54.880
<v Speaker 13>message to the world about our commitment to that. There's

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01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:57.360
<v Speaker 13>three aspects to that. One is, of course, the carbon

933
01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:01.159
<v Speaker 13>capture component. The other part is the deployment of small

934
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:03.719
<v Speaker 13>module or reactors, which is probably ten years out. And

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01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:06.360
<v Speaker 13>then the third kind of last mile approach is having

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01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:09.760
<v Speaker 13>the direct or capture that would allow for us to

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01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:14.360
<v Speaker 13>be able to get whatever missions cannot be abated or

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01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:18.360
<v Speaker 13>captured at source. Those all take time, So I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 13>pretty optimistic. I mean, I always look back at what

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01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:23.039
<v Speaker 13>was the technology twenty five years ago. I think we

941
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:25.760
<v Speaker 13>were still using I don't think rotary phones had completely

942
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:27.480
<v Speaker 13>been phased out at that point, and look where we

943
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:31.280
<v Speaker 13>are today. So if you give industry enough of a

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01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:33.880
<v Speaker 13>time frame so that they can continue to invest in

945
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:40.199
<v Speaker 13>those step up or stage step improvements, then I think

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01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:43.159
<v Speaker 13>that we have every reason to believe that twenty fifty

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01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:46.079
<v Speaker 13>is achievable. It also allows us to help deploy some

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01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:49.159
<v Speaker 13>of our techno. Remember, another part of our strategy has

949
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:52.119
<v Speaker 13>been to have an export of LNG so that we

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01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:54.760
<v Speaker 13>can displace higher emitting fuels internationally.

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<v Speaker 3>There's been lots of stories that have been done on this.

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01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:01.480
<v Speaker 13>I think if we displaced twenty percent of the coal

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01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:07.559
<v Speaker 13>fleet in China with lenng that was the equivalent of

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01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:09.840
<v Speaker 13>what our emissions are for Canada as a whole on

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01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:13.360
<v Speaker 13>an annual basis. So using those arts Article six provisions

956
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:15.360
<v Speaker 13>are really important to us as well. It's a holistic

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01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:18.840
<v Speaker 13>approach and I think it's still achievable, but we have

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01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:22.400
<v Speaker 13>to be working with the federal government on having reasonable

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01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:24.920
<v Speaker 13>timeframes as well as reasonable prices.

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<v Speaker 3>Otherwise you'll end up killing the industry that is going

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01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:29.559
<v Speaker 3>to be able to achieve these investments. Did you have

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<v Speaker 3>more want to add on that?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think Premier you got it exactly right. And

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<v Speaker 6>Premier was just in Japan. I was in Japan at

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01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:39.920
<v Speaker 6>the beginning of February. And you know, when we are.

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<v Speaker 14>Working with other nations around the world to deliver our safe, affordable,

967
01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:49.440
<v Speaker 14>responsibly produced energy, the question is how does your country

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01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:51.920
<v Speaker 14>have such a nonsensical approach to policy.

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01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:55.880
<v Speaker 6>Your natural gas will help us as.

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01:02:55.880 --> 01:02:59.800
<v Speaker 14>Energy consumers reach our emissions goals, So why would you

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01:02:59.880 --> 01:03:06.280
<v Speaker 14>be capping production and putting such high taxes on your producers.

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<v Speaker 14>It doesn't make any sense. In fact, I think the

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01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:11.280
<v Speaker 14>question was we know Alberta and BC have lots of

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01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:12.000
<v Speaker 14>natural gas.

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<v Speaker 6>We know that we want it. But where is Canada?

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01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:15.800
<v Speaker 6>What can you do there?

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01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:19.559
<v Speaker 14>This doesn't make any sense, and so it would be nonsensical,

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01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:22.400
<v Speaker 14>as Premier said, to take an approach where we're shutting

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01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:27.639
<v Speaker 14>down industry instead of allowing our industry to displace emissions

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01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:28.639
<v Speaker 14>elsewhere around the world.

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<v Speaker 15>Great, thanks, and we'll go to our next caller operator

982
01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:34.239
<v Speaker 15>to put them through.

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<v Speaker 6>Please Kevin Orland with Bloomberg News.

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01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:44.280
<v Speaker 20>Hi, thanks for taking my questions falling on on Pathways.

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01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:48.199
<v Speaker 20>Have you spoken to them when you were formulating this

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01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:50.760
<v Speaker 20>freeze or is this something that they were pushing for.

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01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:54.159
<v Speaker 20>I mean, that's a project that obviously is more financially

988
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:56.840
<v Speaker 20>viable the higher the carbon price goes, and was actually

989
01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:02.199
<v Speaker 20>seeking guarantees of certain all those carbon prices from the

990
01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:05.000
<v Speaker 20>federal government. So I'm just curious how you see this

991
01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:08.239
<v Speaker 20>move affecting that project, which you just mentioned.

992
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:11.239
<v Speaker 13>Well, I think a lot of the Pathways project is

993
01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:15.119
<v Speaker 13>going to require a commitment from the federal government to

994
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:17.480
<v Speaker 13>continue to support them in the way that they had

995
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:19.880
<v Speaker 13>intended to under the previous government. They were going to

996
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:23.800
<v Speaker 13>have fifty percent of the capital cost covered contract for differences,

997
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:28.000
<v Speaker 13>we've come forward with our twelve percent refundable tax credit

998
01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:31.679
<v Speaker 13>upon completion, and we're looking at ways that we can

999
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:35.400
<v Speaker 13>use our tier approach to be supportive of their goals.

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01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:37.599
<v Speaker 3>We still some of the feedback.

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01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:40.559
<v Speaker 13>That we got from them is what's shaping this policy

1002
01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:43.639
<v Speaker 13>today as well, so we know that that tier is

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01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:47.119
<v Speaker 13>going to be an important part of their overall economics

1004
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:50.119
<v Speaker 13>on that package. But I would say that the strong

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01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:53.239
<v Speaker 13>indicator that I got was that ninety five dollars was

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01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:54.519
<v Speaker 13>probably the limit?

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01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:56.760
<v Speaker 3>Did you want to sure?

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<v Speaker 14>I reached out to Pathways as well as individual companies

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01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:02.920
<v Speaker 14>last and I can tell you overwhelmingly, and this would

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01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:05.159
<v Speaker 14>have been echoed in the letter to the new Prime

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01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:08.719
<v Speaker 14>Minister from a number of companies that we saw come out.

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01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:10.719
<v Speaker 14>I think that was just last week or two weeks ago.

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01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:15.039
<v Speaker 14>That industry values the system that we have here in Alberta.

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01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:18.079
<v Speaker 14>They would love to see Alberta continue to manage this

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01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:20.840
<v Speaker 14>as it is so closely linked with our energy production.

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01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:24.480
<v Speaker 14>We've taken a common sense approach. They're very appreciative and

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01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:30.320
<v Speaker 14>not surprised at all. There's likely more coming more changes

1018
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:33.159
<v Speaker 14>to tier based on the feedback we've been gathering. For now,

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01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:35.519
<v Speaker 14>this is a price freeze, but I think that there

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01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:39.800
<v Speaker 14>is very much a real opportunity to ensure that this

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01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:42.679
<v Speaker 14>is still a destination for those capital dollars to come

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01:05:42.719 --> 01:05:46.320
<v Speaker 14>where we can continue to be not only that energy producer,

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01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:48.920
<v Speaker 14>but leader and innovation and technology as well. And so

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01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:51.480
<v Speaker 14>more to come on that in the coming months, But

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01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:54.119
<v Speaker 14>for now, what was unequivocal is that a carbon price

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01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:56.679
<v Speaker 14>too high will just drive away investment and hurt our

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01:05:56.719 --> 01:05:58.280
<v Speaker 14>economy at the worst possible time.

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<v Speaker 20>Thanks and to follow up, I think what we've been

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01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:06.519
<v Speaker 20>seeing is that the alburn of carbon credits are right

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01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:10.199
<v Speaker 20>now trading it around forty dollars per ton, a little

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01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:12.920
<v Speaker 20>bit less even. Can you talk a little bit about

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01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:16.760
<v Speaker 20>why the freeze was necessary when the carbon credits are

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01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:20.599
<v Speaker 20>already so cheap and training so far below where the

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01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:21.719
<v Speaker 20>current carbon price is.

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<v Speaker 14>Again there, well, this is complex in terms of there's

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01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:32.639
<v Speaker 14>also a formula that indicates how many credits and versus

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01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:36.920
<v Speaker 14>how much of a financial obligation companies can use to

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01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:40.239
<v Speaker 14>meet their obligations within the tier system. The complexity is

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01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:42.360
<v Speaker 14>one of the things that we are definitely going to

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01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:46.480
<v Speaker 14>be looking at addressing in the coming months here. But again,

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01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:49.559
<v Speaker 14>the concern was about this escalating carbon price for the

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01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:51.920
<v Speaker 14>last number of years, I would say we have heard

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01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:56.079
<v Speaker 14>growing concern around the increase to one seventy. As Premier mentioned,

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01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:59.920
<v Speaker 14>even the federal government themselves were striking contracts for different

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01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:03.599
<v Speaker 14>agreements at eighty six fifty, and so I think somewhere

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01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:06.239
<v Speaker 14>there the federal government must have known that a carbon

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01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:08.760
<v Speaker 14>price of one hundred and seventy dollars isn't good for anybody,

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01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:12.519
<v Speaker 14>and so we will continue to maintain our competitiveness. But

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<v Speaker 14>when it comes to the value of carbon credits, again,

1050
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:18.159
<v Speaker 14>there are a lot of factors there too, not just

1051
01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:21.480
<v Speaker 14>the schedule and the allowance of how many credits those

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01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:23.639
<v Speaker 14>companies are able to use, but how many credits are

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<v Speaker 14>within the system.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's something that's going.

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<v Speaker 14>To be addressed a little bit more so by future

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<v Speaker 14>policy changes that we make. We just need a little

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<v Speaker 14>bit more engagement with industry to make sure we would

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<v Speaker 14>get that right.

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<v Speaker 15>Thanks Minister, and we just have time for one more

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<v Speaker 15>question today. We're going to come back to the room.

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<v Speaker 15>Here we'll go to Manuel.

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<v Speaker 17>You said you reached out to that ways to industry.

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<v Speaker 17>Did you reach out to people or where you're not

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<v Speaker 17>going to meet your emissions target and felt that this

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<v Speaker 17>industrial current tax was a good way alverted to meet

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<v Speaker 17>it submission target.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, as I mentioned, I reached out to a number

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<v Speaker 14>of folks last week and the week before, and largely

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<v Speaker 14>people were supportive.

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<v Speaker 6>I had one one proponent.

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<v Speaker 14>Say that they would really like to see potentially a

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<v Speaker 14>carbon price of somewhere from one oh five to one ten.

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<v Speaker 14>And again my response is this, we can't make the

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<v Speaker 14>entirety of industry uncompetitive to save one specific project. But

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<v Speaker 14>then again, I think obviously there are some changes we

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<v Speaker 14>can make to tier to ensure economics and support for

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<v Speaker 14>industry on both sides of that equation. Again, we are

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<v Speaker 14>leaders in emissions reduction. We are proud of our environmental record.

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<v Speaker 14>Countries around the world see us as that as well,

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<v Speaker 14>and so instead of punishing our industry, we want to

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<v Speaker 14>allow them to grow, thrive, continue to increase production and

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<v Speaker 14>reduce global emissions all at the same time.

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<v Speaker 6>We can do that.

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<v Speaker 14>That's what we're committed to, and we sure hope that

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<v Speaker 14>Ottawa feels the same way.

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<v Speaker 17>And there was also a way to fund projects and

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<v Speaker 17>to fund R and D for all these new technologies

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<v Speaker 17>you mentioned, carbon capture, air culture, whatever. So there will

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<v Speaker 17>be less money in the pot now that it's not increasing.

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<v Speaker 17>How do you expect that Alberta will get these two

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<v Speaker 17>technologies going that can make industry.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, even over the last couple of years, we

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<v Speaker 14>have streamlined the investments that we're making in TIER to

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<v Speaker 14>make sure that they are also focused on some of

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<v Speaker 14>our bigger environmental challenges. Again, the amount of money in

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<v Speaker 14>the TIER fund has also fluctuated based on whether or

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<v Speaker 14>not companies choose to meet their obligations through credits or

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<v Speaker 14>through paying those obligations, and.

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<v Speaker 6>So that fluctuates greatly.

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<v Speaker 14>We've certainly felt that at the Treasury Board table explaining

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<v Speaker 14>how these fluctuations take place and why they fluctuate so

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<v Speaker 14>much from one budget year to the next. And so

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<v Speaker 14>there was already some fluctuation within that I call it

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<v Speaker 14>the bucket of money that we call TIER, and then

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<v Speaker 14>use that to reinvest into technology and innovation. In fact,

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<v Speaker 14>this year we've been able to even increase some of

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<v Speaker 14>our investments and the calls for proposals that we've been

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<v Speaker 14>making in partnership with Emission's Production Alberta because there were

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<v Speaker 14>extra dollars in the fund. And so I think some

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<v Speaker 14>of that fluctuation is normal. Again, the most important piece

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<v Speaker 14>has to be economic competitiveness for our industry perfect.

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<v Speaker 15>And that's all the time we have a questions. Thanks

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<v Speaker 15>everyone for joining us.

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