WEBVTT 1 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:31.600 Look, hi guys, Hey guys, Welcome to the Strangers Ranger 2 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:35.640 in episode twenty five of A Strange Thing podcast. 3 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:37.880 We are your hosts, Mike and Austin. 4 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:39.520 Yeah, I'm Mike and you're Austin. 5 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:40.920 Yep, not the other way around. 6 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:43.759 No, And we're going to be talking about something tonight 7 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:47.119 that we started many weeks ago, and we hope to 8 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:50.320 come to some kind of conclusion, not a permanent conclusion, 9 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:53.479 because this is a topic that we're going to continue 10 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:54.159 to talk about. 11 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:55.399 It's an open book. 12 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:58.039 Yeah, into into perpetuity. 13 00:00:58.320 --> 00:00:59.359 Oh what's that mean. 14 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:01.000 That means we're gonna to talk about it a lot 15 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:04.599 in the future. But we're going to close up. We're 16 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:08.480 going to close out this chapter of Bigfoot. And it's 17 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:10.519 been a fun discussion. We've gone all over the place. 18 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:12.959 Our last episode, we kind of took a little break 19 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:15.159 so that we could kind of jump in around Christmas 20 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:18.760 and the holidays and do a special holiday kind of thing. 21 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:21.120 But now we're going to go back to our final 22 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:23.719 episode in the topic of Bigfoot. 23 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:25.680 YEP. Im kind of feeling like a story time. 24 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:28.079 It is kind of story time. I think tonight should 25 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:31.519 be all about stories. Stories of the blomb stories are 26 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:34.439 very very good, awesome. So who wants to tell the 27 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:35.000 first story? 28 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:35.920 I think you should. 29 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:39.159 Okay, I'll lead it off, But before we do, I 30 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:41.959 wanted to just like bring up a couple of things 31 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:44.719 that I don't know if we ever really covered in 32 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:51.079 you know, our original four episodes of Bigfoot topics. One 33 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:56.120 of those things is that when people see Bigfoot and 34 00:01:56.519 --> 00:02:01.040 if they have a weapon like a rifle or a 35 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:04.040 gun or a pistol or maybe even a bow and 36 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:07.920 arrow for you know, you archery Native Americans, well Native 37 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:12.439 Americans as well, because it's ad time that this is true, 38 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:17.960 you're very Germanic. They have a really hard time letting 39 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:22.919 loose that bullet or arrow and shooting the creature that 40 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:26.599 we now call Bigfoot, right. And part of the reason 41 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:30.719 is these people talk about that it looks very human. 42 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:32.879 It doesn't look like an animal. 43 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.719 You kind of have a relationship like empathy for it. 44 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:39.680 Yeah, something about the eyes, so people will be so 45 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:44.000 maybe or maybe yeah, I don't know, maybe it's like 46 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:46.800 a maybe it's a deformed human. I don't know what 47 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:49.400 it is. But for whatever reason, they see the eyes 48 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.280 in the face and they can't pull the trigger or 49 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:56.599 if they do. There is lots of guilt immediately. Yeah, 50 00:02:56.840 --> 00:03:00.360 they feel like they've done something wrong. So are first 51 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:04.840 story takes place in northern California in the Plumis National 52 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:10.400 Forest Plumis Plumas plumas plumbus plumas plumbus plummus plumbus plumas forest. 53 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:14.400 And there's actually a movie about this. It's a documentary. 54 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:16.599 It's very interesting. I'm gonna put links up on our 55 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:18.240 website so if you want to check it out. It's 56 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:21.960 about an hour and twenty minutes long, but anyway you'll 57 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:22.680 learn all about it. 58 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:23.879 I think I actually saw this. 59 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.479 It's very, very fascinating this story. So the story goes 60 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:30.840 like this. Two friends are out in a truck and 61 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:34.599 they're out hunting solid yep. The passenger has a rifle. 62 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:36.960 His name is Justin Justin Rifle. 63 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:37.199 Yeah. 64 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:39.599 I think his last name is Smajia. He's out there 65 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:43.719 sm Eja if you want to look it up. But 66 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:46.439 Justin and his friend are out driving through the forest, 67 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:49.599 scooping up the field mice and bopping him on the head. Interesting. No, 68 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:53.280 they're actually driving around in their truck and looking for 69 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:56.159 something for a game to shoot, and they come around 70 00:03:56.199 --> 00:04:00.080 a corner and they see this creature standing out in 71 00:03:59.919 --> 00:04:05.039 the meadow and they stop the truck. And it's weird 72 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:09.319 because this creature appears to be about seven feet tall, 73 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:13.520 maybe eight feet tall, harry covered in hair, and it's 74 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:16.160 waving its arms in the air like you just don't care. 75 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.279 I don't know. It's waving its arms like don't shoot me, 76 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:23.000 or maybe hey, I'm over here. I don't know, and 77 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:26.959 they stop, like up above its head like yeah, yeah, 78 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:29.920 like up above its head sounds like to get attention, yeah, 79 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:33.720 or is something? It was weird so it caught their eye. 80 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:37.120 They pull over immediately. Justin the guy in the passenger 81 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:40.639 seat rabs his rifle. I don't know what caliber it was, 82 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:43.000 but it was a big hunting rifle, you know, drop 83 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:45.240 a deer, drop a moose, drop an elk, something like 84 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:48.720 that kind of gun. And he pulls it up and 85 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:52.399 trains on it and he's looking at it through the scope. Meanwhile, 86 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:56.319 the driver, who's kind of remained anonymous, he tried to 87 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:00.439 stay out of the aftermath of this. He apparently grabbed 88 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:05.160 his field glasses, his binocular knockers, and he starts looking 89 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:07.920 at this thing out in the meadow and as he 90 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:11.480 looks at it, the creature is kind of face onto 91 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:14.800 him and waving his arms, and Justin talks about it. 92 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:18.560 He says, you know, this thing looked weird. It didn't 93 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.600 look right. Something was not right about it. And his 94 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:24.079 finger was kind of doing light pressure on the trigger. 95 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:28.600 It had human like behavior, the way it was standing, 96 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:30.959 the way it had its arms up in the air. 97 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:34.000 Bears don't do that. Maybe in the circus, I don't know, 98 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:35.839 but bears in the wild they don't do that. 99 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:39.800 And his friend in the driver's seat was looking through 100 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:42.480 the binoculars and he says, he says, don't shoot it. 101 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:43.199 Don't shoot it. 102 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:47.959 The whole time it was don't shoot, that's all. It 103 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:50.279 was the whole time telling them not to shoot. It's 104 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:53.240 not a good idea. And this is all, yeah, within 105 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:54.199 five seconds. 106 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:57.399 Something about it. The way it was standing, waving its arms. 107 00:05:57.720 --> 00:05:59.959 It wasn't like an animal. It wasn't like a white 108 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.600 animal animal. But yeah, yeah, it was like a human 109 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:04.480 in a suit. 110 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:06.399 Valley, Yes, very creepy. 111 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:10.040 And they're looking at it. He says that his fingers 112 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:13.240 pulling a little more on the trigger, and what he 113 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.800 noticed is that it was a solid creature. It wasn't 114 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:21.079 like there was you know, like saggy kind of clothing 115 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:25.079 or a costume that it was actually pulled up tight 116 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:29.759 against like muscle and sinew. Something was real about this thing, 117 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:33.040 but it was wrong. Yeah, So there's like all these 118 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:36.240 weird bells going off in their head. The driver is saying, 119 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:38.439 don't shoot it. It could be a guy in a suit. 120 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:41.480 We don't know what it is. And Justin said he 121 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:44.519 kept looking at it. He's like, no, this thing is different. 122 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:49.519 Something's off, something's wrong, And so the creature kind of 123 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:53.839 turns like it's gonna run away, and in a snap decision, 124 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:58.839 he pulls the trigger right and it drops this thing. 125 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:02.079 And he says he shot it right under the armpit 126 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:04.120 where it would go, like if you were hunting, that 127 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:06.199 would be a great kill shot for an animal because 128 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:08.160 it would go right into the harn and drop it. 129 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:12.600 So this creature dropped, and it dropped, but then it 130 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.279 wasn't dead. So it kind of all of a sudden 131 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:17.439 just kind of jumped up on all fours and tried 132 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:19.600 to kind of run away, and it fell down again, 133 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:21.360 and then it was up again on two feet and 134 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:24.399 then down on the four and it was moving fast, 135 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:26.639 running away, running out of the meadow and into the 136 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:30.120 brush and into the trees, and it's a heavily forested area. 137 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:34.920 And so Justin says he racked another bullet in the chamber, 138 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:37.839 and just as he's getting ready to pull the trigger 139 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:40.519 to drop this thing again, he says he can look 140 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:43.199 through the scope and he sees like right up its butthole, 141 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:45.600 and he's thinking, man, this is the perfect shot. I 142 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:48.079 shoot this. It's gonna go right in there. It's not 143 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:50.439 going to tear up any flesh or anything or any 144 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:53.959 of the meat. It's just gonna the old Texas heart shot. Yeah, 145 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:55.920 it's going to take out all the take out all 146 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:59.639 the organs, and it's gonna be dead. They'll have it. Meanwhile, 147 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:04.240 driver says, don't don't kill it. Don't do it. Something's 148 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:07.480 weird with this. Don't do it. And so this creature 149 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:10.560 eventually he doesn't pull the trigger the second time, and 150 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:13.120 it jumps over this little hill and goes out of 151 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:17.240 sight into the forested area. So of course they just 152 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:19.319 shot it. They knew they hit it because it fell down. 153 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:21.079 And so they get out of the truck and they 154 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:23.519 make their way over there really quick, and they're really 155 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:28.160 creeped out. They're adrenaline running because something was different about this. 156 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:30.800 And that's one thing really interesting about this story when 157 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:33.360 you hear him tell it, is that this whole thing 158 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:34.480 is alien to them. 159 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:37.240 Kind of got that helter skelter vibe is chaos. 160 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:39.960 Yeah, it doesn't feel like it's real. And so as 161 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:41.559 they run up there to the area, and they said 162 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.639 it was about forty yards off of the road, so 163 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.759 it wasn't like way far away. So as they approached 164 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:49.600 the place where it was shot, there's all this you know, 165 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:51.840 mark on the ground where it would hit, and they 166 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.600 could see footprints and all that kind of stuff, but 167 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:57.799 they couldn't find any blood, which was really weird. So 168 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:00.759 they're like, what is going on? And they start following 169 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:03.240 it where it disappeared over this little edge and this 170 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:06.399 little knoll into the forest, and as they're walking something 171 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:10.200 catches their eye. Justin said, he looks over and there 172 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:17.480 is about maybe fifteen yards away two infant creatures that 173 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:20.840 look like they are the children or offspring of this 174 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:23.240 thing that just ran into the forest that they just shot. 175 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:27.240 Infant like baby, like a child. 176 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:30.200 This is this is a little kid. 177 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:33.120 This is not an animal because I mean they look 178 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:34.759 like little monkeys and you get in a posts and 179 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:36.200 you see their eyes and they get that they're just 180 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:37.200 surrounded by white. 181 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.799 And they're it's a little kid. 182 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.240 I should have seen that way. It was. 183 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:49.159 They were walking okay, and they they could communicate with 184 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:51.879 each other. They would make little kind of chirping noises 185 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:55.080 to each other, and they were wandering around and looking 186 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:58.240 for something like they were looking for their parents just 187 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:01.360 got shot, that just got shot. And so there's like 188 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:06.720 this really strange, you know, situation going on, and they're 189 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:10.120 looking up at these little things, these little monkey like 190 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:14.440 creatures on two legs walking around. So they're making those Yeah, 191 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:17.399 they can they can see him, and they're not afraid 192 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:20.080 of the people they're looking at him. But at the 193 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:22.360 same time, they they're kind of like what you would 194 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:24.919 expect a baby to be. They don't know enough to 195 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:29.000 be afraid, right, And so they're looking at these little 196 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:33.679 creatures and looking up to see if this other creature 197 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:36.480 is dead over you know, in the in the forested area. 198 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:42.320 It's just he says, it's just so bizarre. Eventually, Justin 199 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:46.519 has this thought, I'm gonna I'm gonna kill one of 200 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:50.240 the juveniles. I'm gonna kill one and take it back 201 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:53.120 with this because I want nobody's gonna believe this. I 202 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:56.080 need proof this is. And he's like, I don't know 203 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:57.879 if it's a monkey. I don't know what this thing is. 204 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:01.440 It's not human. It's not at least not the kind 205 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:03.759 of human that I'm used to seeing. So I'm just 206 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:08.000 going to shoot this thing. Yeah, And so he he 207 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:12.360 pulls up his rifle and there's this little infant sasquatch 208 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:15.519 or whatever it is, and he starts pulling the trigger 209 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:19.639 and he's looking at it and he's feeling like this 210 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:22.440 is wrong, you know. He feels like he's about ready 211 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.399 to commit murder. And the driver is like saying, don't 212 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:29.360 shoot it, don't do it. Well, he pulls the trigger. 213 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:37.200 I think hunting you harvest. That was more or less 214 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.799 murder on the little one. The big one just say 215 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:42.399 is what it is? 216 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:49.080 And this this gangsta, this child, this infant whatever it was, 217 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:53.720 rolls down the hill and it's on the ground and 218 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:58.759 there's blood coming out, and it's just it's a horrible scene. 219 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:02.200 He says, it's horrific. Hmm. There the guilt that they 220 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:06.360 describe feeling after they've they've shot this thing. Is is horrible, 221 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:11.080 murdering a little kid. Yeah, basically, the second one apparently 222 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:14.320 escapes over the hill when the when the other sibling 223 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:18.440 was killed, and so Justin says, he's looking at it. 224 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:21.600 He doesn't know what to do, and he could see 225 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:24.840 finally that it's not no longer breathing. It starts to 226 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:30.440 twitch and it's dead. Obviously it's expired, and so he 227 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:34.440 goes over and he he picks it up and he's 228 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:36.360 looking at it, and he says, he's looking at it 229 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:40.559 straight into its eyes that are dead but open, and 230 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.639 he said he just had this horrible feeling. He said, 231 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.440 it was a it was a living human. It was 232 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:50.440 human eyes staring at him, weird, and it was dripping 233 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:54.120 blood on his boots and he just could not look 234 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:58.639 away from this creature that he just killed. And he knew, 235 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:04.000 he felt that he committed murder. And the driver was 236 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:07.960 equally horrified by the whole situation and because of what 237 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:11.279 it was. And he doesn't really understand why they didn't, 238 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:15.879 but they were so worried apparently that they had just 239 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:21.759 killed somebody instead of something, that they decided to bury 240 00:13:21.799 --> 00:13:27.120 it and then come back later and with people that 241 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:30.440 could look at it and see what this thing actually was. Weird, 242 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:34.879 So they spend some time, they bury it, and then 243 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:39.320 they go drive home and they're traumatized. When they come 244 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:43.000 back later, of course it's gone. Oh of course, And 245 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:45.600 I don't know for those that have any kind of 246 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:50.799 background in bigfoot stories, Bigfoots never leave their dead, that's 247 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:53.440 what they say. You don't ever find a bigfoot carcass 248 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:58.000 in the forest. So anyway, they come back and of 249 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:02.200 course it's gone, But there are some evidence that was 250 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:06.200 left there, a toft of hair from what they thought 251 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:09.200 was maybe this thing. The area where they buried had 252 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:12.159 been dug up, and the branches they in rocks that 253 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:14.879 they put on top was all strewn everywhere. But they 254 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:17.799 did find like a little scrap of hair and hide, 255 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:21.879 and so they took that. He also had the blood 256 00:14:21.919 --> 00:14:25.039 that was on his boots. But anyway, they went back 257 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:29.320 to civilization, and you know, they told a few people 258 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:32.000 about this story, and it kind of got around, and 259 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:34.960 so people had asked him about it. A lot of 260 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:37.919 people didn't believe him, and those that did kind of 261 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.480 believe him, they were very quick to judge him for 262 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:43.879 shooting this thing. You know what, if it would have 263 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:48.240 been a person in a bear suit, why would you 264 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:50.960 just shoot something like that? What kind of idiot was 265 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:54.200 he for doing that kind of thing? So he took 266 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:59.039 a lot of heat. The driver refused to go public. 267 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:01.320 He had a family, he had a job, he wanted 268 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.799 to protect all that, and so he never said anything. 269 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:07.679 Okay, so I get you know, you need to identify 270 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:09.639 your target when you're hunting. You need to make sure 271 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.840 you know what it is. But if you can't identify 272 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:16.159 it but you can see it clearly, could you imagine 273 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:19.519 if they took that logic into predator or alien? I mean, 274 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:22.159 I don't know what it is, better not killing. So 275 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.519 I don't blame him for taking this shot. 276 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:26.480 Well, there's a lot of it, and a lot of 277 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:28.440 people are like, Okay, I can see you shot the 278 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:32.240 big one, but then why would you shoot the small one. 279 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:36.039 You know, there are seasons for bears and other animals. 280 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:38.480 You can't just go up and shoot everything just because 281 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:41.480 it's fun. You can shoot varmints, but I mean they 282 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:43.480 were breaking laws, and that's one of the reasons why 283 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:46.039 they said they hit it, because they were sure that, 284 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:48.519 you know, a phishing game officer was gonna come by 285 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:50.600 and they were going to be in trouble, and they 286 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:53.159 didn't want to be in trouble, so that kind of 287 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:56.960 stuff was in their mind. Plus, you know, and I 288 00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:00.159 think they really If you listen to this guy, and 289 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:03.519 I've got a few clips that I'm interspersing here, he 290 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:06.440 feels like he really killed somebody. Crazy, he feels like 291 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:09.559 he murdered somebody. There's no way that he can justify it. 292 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:13.039 He doesn't even try, and people say, well why, and 293 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:17.080 he says, I can't even explain it. So after that 294 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:21.080 time goes by and then more people get involved. The 295 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:25.360 people that don't necessarily believe it start asking him questions 296 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:29.320 about it, and just the way that he answers it 297 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:33.240 just lends itself to being more credible. And so some 298 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:36.759 bigfoot hunters and people that are out searching for cryptids 299 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:40.399 start interviewing him. It goes so far that they do 300 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:44.080 a documentary on this whole story, and part of the 301 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:47.600 interview they actually go out into the same meadow and 302 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:51.159 they have two more encounters with strange creatures out there, 303 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:54.159 and they actually take some casts of prints. Something was there. 304 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:58.919 They could hear things, and evidence was left behind, and 305 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:03.639 they also decided to get a professional technician that's going 306 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.799 to come out and give him a polygraph test. A 307 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:09.039 polyographer is that. 308 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:11.400 What you'd call him, probably sounds good. 309 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:13.920 Comes out and she hooks him up and she asks 310 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:18.039 him questions and it's supposedly ninety eight point nine percent accurate, 311 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:22.160 but he aces it. He passes every question the tasked 312 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.039 with no hint of being deceptive. So that went a 313 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:29.119 long way in proving that at least what he thought 314 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:29.880 he did. 315 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:32.599 Or he was good at flexing his butt cheeks something. 316 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:35.799 Yeah, either he's really good at faking the test out 317 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:39.799 or something really happened and he really believes it, believes it, 318 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:42.640 he believes it. After all of this came out and 319 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:46.200 the documentary was being made, the producers of the documentary 320 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:51.400 went and found and were actually able to interview the 321 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:54.960 driver that was with Justin when he went out and 322 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:59.599 shot this thing. Up until that point, everybody criticized this 323 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:04.319 as a because this supposed driver never was found. He 324 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:07.559 didn't exist, right, They don't release his name, and they 325 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:11.119 disguise him and I probably alter his voice in the documentary, 326 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:14.559 but he talks about it, and he basically verifies everything 327 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:18.240 that Justin said. So another researcher that kind of jumps 328 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:22.640 in and joins in this investigation actually slowly turned from 329 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:28.599 skeptic into believer. His name is Bart Catino. Yeah, and 330 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:32.240 apparently his dad owned like a brewery or something. So 331 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:36.200 Justin and the driver went to this place to be 332 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:40.799 interviewed by Bart, and Bart snuck around and went underneath 333 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:43.680 the decking so that he could eavesdrop and listen to 334 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:47.319 what they talked about when he wasn't there, thinking that 335 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:49.920 they would catch them trying to, you know, get their 336 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:53.400 story straight or whatever, you know, find some kind of deception. 337 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:56.680 Now, listen to your driver when he asks you about 338 00:18:56.799 --> 00:19:00.559 Dodge on that little one was the most or fifteen 339 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:02.960 years old, exactly, that kind of thing. 340 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:05.799 Yeah, that was that kind of thing. But instead of that, 341 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:10.319 they actually start talking about their experience. They start talking 342 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:12.960 about the way that they were driving down the road 343 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:14.759 and it was so weird the way it was waving 344 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:17.559 its arms. They talked about, you know, when they first 345 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:20.039 saw it, that they didn't know what it was, and 346 00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:22.119 one would say something and the other one say, yeah, 347 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:25.759 I know, freaked me out. Anyway, they were talking in 348 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:29.400 regular banter about a shared experience. They weren't trying to like, 349 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:31.599 you know, get their stories straightened out. 350 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:34.759 So they were either really well rehearsed or they. 351 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:38.000 Had the same experience, right, And so this bart guy 352 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:42.200 is like, hey, this is not two guys out trying 353 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:46.240 to pull a fast one over anybody. They actually experienced something. 354 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:51.920 So they did that along with this polygraph test, and 355 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:55.079 so the people that were once skeptics that have been 356 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:58.680 around these guys are now like believing it. They don't 357 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:02.359 necessarily think just is like this great guy because what 358 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:05.799 he did obviously was not something that was very smart. 359 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:09.160 If you're a hunter and you respect the wilderness, it's 360 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:12.519 not like you go out and just randomly shoot big animals, right, 361 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:18.079 you use husbandry and you husbandry, yeah, animal husbandry have 362 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:19.160 you heard of that? 363 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:22.079 All that. 364 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:27.079 Depends if your husband or not. But anyway, and you 365 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:28.759 can have a drink if you're planning or drinking game, 366 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:34.000 so they said. But anyway, they believe these guys. So 367 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:38.960 as the documentary progresses, you start to see this weird 368 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:43.799 a collection of people that turn from skeptics to believers. 369 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:46.119 And they go out and actually camp out in this 370 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:48.799 meadow in sight and they have some encounters that are 371 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:52.960 kind of weird, and it kind of ends with almost 372 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:57.359 justin doing this I don't know, remorseful kind of thing, saying, 373 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:00.200 you know, I I don't know what I shot. I 374 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:03.599 don't know what it was. I feel guilty, and I'm 375 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:05.240 going to spend the rest of my life trying to 376 00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:07.440 figure it out. I'm going to put links to this 377 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:12.440 documentary on there. It's very entertaining. I watched it at 378 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:17.039 one point five speed because it's a little long. Yeah, 379 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:19.039 you'll learn a lot and it kind of makes you 380 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:22.759 go huh. And the things that I take away from 381 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:28.440 it are people when they look at this thing, wrestle 382 00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:30.240 with whether it's a human or not. 383 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:31.599 There's some kind of connection. 384 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:37.279 Yes, it is too human to kill comfortably. Interesting. A 385 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:41.200 lot of people can't kill anything comfortably. But even hunters, 386 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:43.880 season hunters that are used to blood and guts and 387 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:46.960 gore of the harvesting of animals. Even the guy from 388 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:51.400 Jurassic Park, Yes, the big Game hunter looks into the 389 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:54.359 eyes of this thing and says, huhh, this ain't right. 390 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:54.880 Interesting. 391 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.319 Yeah, so that's an interesting story. So that's my story. 392 00:21:57.400 --> 00:21:57.720 What do you. 393 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:02.119 Got to this story? My story is not so Bigfoot traditional. 394 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:05.279 I figured I had to open the doors a little bit. 395 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:09.400 Open your brain, mind, open your mind, brain, as you 396 00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:11.359 would say in the stranger Zone. 397 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:17.720 So this story takes place in nineteen thirty six near Elkhorn, Wisconsin. 398 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:19.519 Olkorn, Wisconsin, a. 399 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:20.640 Bunch of cheeseheads. 400 00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:23.960 There is a like an Elkhorn, Idaho by some Dalley. 401 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:25.279