Speaker 1: Creativity is an addiction. I'm blessed with the opportunity to
talk with a lot of creative people. And when we
get on that subject of where does it come from,
how do we preserve it, how do we even have
to live with it? And why do we have to
live with it unplugged? Because we will always say yes
to creativity totally uncut because we all make mistakes. So
turn it into a tool. This is arrow unplugged.
Speaker 2: Hey, Zara, this is deprag. We defrag a few different
vices every day.
Speaker 1: I have a written journal for that, Detragon and I
also take transition walks going through this forest a thirty
nine degree morning. It's just past eleven o'clock in the morning.
It's been raining all night. The mountains are getting a
lot of snow. Yeah, we're out here, and says the
transition walk is so important. That's this idea of trusting.
Defragging is really really a point beingly disciplined.
Speaker 2: Need.
Speaker 1: Fragging is having an honest to God conversation with the
celts that you are the one that's being controlled by
other people. You know that person in the mirror and
it's like who sounds like who? Yeah, that's the person.
And the question is do you know who I've been
a daily writer for twenty nine years. Do you think
that I know who I am? Who is my whop?
I have an idea I'm getting closer to other day.
But the thing about being a human being is is
that every day we change, we evolve. We don't get
used to the selves that we are unless we physically say,
you know what, I can't do it anymore. So I'm
just going to sit down and complain.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I know so many of those people, and even though
through the love of God and through patience, you try
to hear their side, and it's like, no, no, no,
I'm only digging a hole to put my head in
while they continue to steal all the sunshine.
Speaker 2: This is deep rag.
Speaker 1: Julia Cameron in her brand new book I brought up
something that was very important and it really did touch
my heart today. I've been studying Julia Cameron since July
nineteen ninety four. Every book, trust Me, every book. I
spoke for two and a half years at Barnes and
Noble to writers, to dreamers, to creative people, and it
was all fed by the lessons that I learned through
Julia Cameron. No, I didn't have a blessing, but what
I had I had the testimony of what having her
as a tool had done to me as a creative
That was on this journey of wondering, who am I?
Speaker 2: Who is this? Who? Why does this? Who thinks he's
got to take over everything that I do? Who? Well,
you ask questions and then you question answers. Well.
Speaker 1: In Julia Cameron's brand new book, she deals with the
subject of not only anxiety, but vulnerability. That people of
creativity are constantly vulnerable, and we're easily hurt, and so
we quickly put away the things that we create because
we don't feel like that's what we need to do.
Studen Fredick today said, he says, this is not about
a feeling, this is about faith.
Speaker 2: Wow, hold on a second here, you're right.
Speaker 1: How many times have we said, well, I'm just not
feeling it right now? Well, you know what, put some
faith in the game. Then get your hands dirty a
little bit. Because creative people are vulnerable and we decide
that we don't want to write, we don't want to
go into the kitchen and cook, We just want to
just mope complain. The thing is, that's the best time
to do it. Anxiety is actually fuel. You know, you
get your hopes up high, or you got that fear
of failure. Oh man, that's one of my greatest times
to be a writer. And she's right, it's fuel. But
with vulnerability, what happens is is that when you shut
down going I don't know what to write about. I
don't know what to do. I don't know how to do.
I don't I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. Well,
that's exactly what you should do. Answer the question. The
question is why don't you know how what's happened here
to where suddenly there's a light switch. That's your subject
who is in control of your who being? And if
there's something such as vulnerability that's getting in the way,
then create something around it.
Speaker 2: If you're a songwriter, do a song about it.
Speaker 1: If you're a business leader and your team sucks and
you don't know what to do about it, write about it.
Be honest with yourself on the page. Look, we don't
live a perfect life. You're never going to get a
perfect life. And if you're ever given a perfect team,
trust me, it's gonna last about three or three weeks.
It doesn't matter what kind of a deep head driver
you are of success, you're not always going to have
daily victories. It is absolutely, one hundred percent completely natural
to want to shut it down.
Speaker 2: To go feel sorry for yourself. Oh there's that way
of feeling again. It is absolutely one hundred percent perfect
you to want to listen to what the situation is.
But the question is what got you in?
Speaker 1: Well, let's speak braggant, let's ask the questions, let's question
the answers when you have those moments, in those mindsets
where things aren't happening the way that you envision Princess,
I'm not having a good month with the podcast after
two records setting listening months, I mean brilliant listening patterns.
I thought maybe something was truly popping. Well, it's one
hundred percent the exact opposite. In this moment of now
and through dfragging, I'm asking the question, do we need
to make a change, No, we don't need to make
a change.
Speaker 2: Well, tell me why we don't need to make a change.
Speaker 1: Is it time to create a new format to be
able to do things differently? And what came out of
my defragged writing instrument was something that really caught me
off guard. I don't quit anything. What happens is is
that by listening to myself and defragging, I evolve with
the shows, with the episodes.
Speaker 2: The things that.
Speaker 1: I believe are bad habits eventually begin to fade because
I'm not afraid of trying new ideas and new things.
You keep the same formatics, but you try a different
twist and you move through things in a way that says,
you know what today, this is going to be based
on faith. And when I say faith, you know what,
I'm not going all about with Jesus on your ear.
What I'm saying is have some faith in yourself. Whatever
you believe in. Believe in yourself. Believe in that self
that looks in that mirror every day and is asking.
Speaker 2: Whoo hoo, hoo hoo who.
Speaker 1: Most of the time we're pointing the finger and you you, you, you, you, you,
But we don't point the finger at ourselves because that
self in the mirror, that who has no clue. There's
no clue that as to why you have this unbelievable
lack of desire and passion to just sit there and
not create.
Speaker 2: Because you were born to create. You were born to breathe.
You were born to move energy from the universe into
the hearts of outos. We all were.
Speaker 1: You make that choice, and that choice is well, I'm
just not feeling. In her new book, Julia Cameron really
goes pretty clean where she says, you got to learn
how to be honest with yourself as a writer, as
a creative person. I have more songwriters that stop on
my show unplugged in Totallyanca and we talked about the
ability to put lyrics with music, the orchestrations, and every
one of them have said, it's a story. It's a story,
and it's like, how were you so honest with your story?
And that's the thing about it. Through that honesty, their
art is given air to breathe. But so many times
when it comes to doing a creative project, we think
we have to do this and then we got to
go do that. Well it's not coming together like it
did for this person over here, so therefore, well I
must be a failure. No, that's vulnerability. Yes, there's a
lot of anxiety when it comes to art. There's a
reason why they call it the starving artist, because the
artist is starving themselves from being creative. So understanding who
you are. I don't care if you work at a
grocery store, if you work at a restaurant, if you've
never picked up a paintbrush and even put it near
a canvas, or even doodled on a page. I don't
care if you've never done that. But what I do
know in my heart that through your day to day survival,
your creative energy has been present, and you have no
idea how strong it is and how it can develop
a greater relationship not only with yourself, but how it
can be used as a builder, as a heemer, how
it can reach out and do exactly what it's supposed
to do. Do you think the sun wakes up every
day spreads its mighty ray of light across the sky
thinking I don't want to share it today.
Speaker 2: I'm not in the mood.
Speaker 1: No. That and death are the guarantees of life. You
get your son, and you get to die. Sometimes we
don't get to make the right choice. Other times we
get a second choice. But don't stop because it's not
being meant the way you think it should be met.
You've got to ask the questions question the answers. Happened
to call it defragging, break it down him, marily, and
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