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We got Garrett and Preston Handy on the line. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: Hey Ben?

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Speaker 4: Doing well?

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Speaker 3: I didn't hear that part of it. I like the

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year supply of cookies.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'd love to see you guys here.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you joining us for yet another edition of

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Sport Court. Now let's start off with this one five

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star Ohio State commit and high schooler is filing a

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lawsuit to allow for high schoolers.

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Speaker 4: To make nil deals. What's going on with this?

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Speaker 3: Just a matter of time, Ben, You know, we've reviewed

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and talked about a lot the cases have led up

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to this, the Ed O'Bannon case and the Austin case

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that made it to the United States Supreme Court, which

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really opened the door for amateur athletes to profit from

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their name image lightness. Well, all states but six states

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allow for high school athletes to have nil deals and

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make money from their name image enlightness. Well. One of

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the states that does not is the Great State of Ohio.

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Enter Jamier Brown, who is a five star recruit at

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Ohio they commit wide receiver. He and his mother have

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now filed a lawsuit against the Ohio High School Athletic

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Association sedually alleging that, hey, this is not fair. They're

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they're kind of putting forth the same arguments that happened

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in the O'Bannon and the Austin cases. Say one thing,

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the anti trusting, but they're saying this isn't really fair,

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it's outdated, it's limited, it's not fair to Ohio athletes.

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They say a blanket ban not only singles out Ohio's

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good athletes, but for unequal treatment. It's unlawfully suppresses their

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economic liberties, freedom of expression, restraints competition. Jamiri's wife also

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his mother point too, you know that this would really

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benefit to their family, and in reality, sometimes these NIL

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bills really do help these families. The Ohio State Athletic

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Association has come out with a statement. You know, they've

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been sued now, and they said, you know, this is

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the type of thing that we saw coming. We had

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it scheduled to do a referendum vote to see if

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we wanted to keep this in place or allow the

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highest athletes to profit from their name, image of likeness.

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And they even said, hey, we might just put an

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emergency referendum in place to get this addressed. They don't

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like being sued, and they probably realized that this is

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not going to really be in place too long. One

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Notre Dame even though he's committed to a house date.

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great State of Ohio is not going to let him

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make an il money.

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Speaker 2: It's just insane that you could limit you know, you know, name,

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image and likeness deals from being executed like like federally, Like,

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what what can be done here to maybe make changes?

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states are limiting earning potential of individual athletes, how do

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because before the Austin case came down, we didn't we

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couldn't even perceive of the nil deals for college athletes, right,

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we see it as fairness for them to profit from

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their name, image and likeness, and you know that it

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doesn't extend to the high schol athletes. I think the

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response is that, you know, you know, states are given

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certain rights, and the state of Ohio is, along with

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five other states, have decided that, you know, they have

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administrative rules in place, which are essentially laws that limit

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certain things. I think before time you're going to see

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that not one of these states, you know, because it

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does fly in the face of the Alton decision. Really,

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so they could make that claim that it's not. You know,

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in the United States Supreme Court comes down with the

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decision is it is the law of the land, you know,

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so they could make that argument. I don't think this

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Speaker 4: I believe so as well. Let's move on to another subject.

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Speaker 2: Logan Paul's Prime Hydration is suing Lionel Messi over false advertising.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: These are two big names in the hydration beverage industry, right,

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which is big business obviously. So on the one hand,

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we got Logan Paul with Prime, and then on the

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other is Lionel Messi, and he's got a company called

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Moth Hydration, and so he's got a new drink that

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he's out there promoting and on their website and on

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TV and commercials. And so what's happened is there's been

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a lawsuit brought by Logan Paul in the state of Florida,

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and there this is really a false advertising lawsuit and

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it's brought under Florida's you know, trade practices and deceptive

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and unfair practices laws. Basically, Messi in the advertising says

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how he couldn't find the right hydration drink, and so

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he went about finding you know, a drink of his own,

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and he you know, discovered the right flavors and the

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proper blend of electoral heights and everything else, and he's

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got this drink that he wants to share with the world.

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of the drink. Well, the other part of the story

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is is that back in New York, there's an ongoing

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lawsuit between Prime and Moss Hydration, and in that other

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lawsuit under oath, Messi gave testimony that he really didn't

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have a lot of involvement in the production and development

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of the drink. And so these are contradictory statements. And

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now Logan Paul's team with Prime, they're using that against Messi,

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and there it's really messing up everything. But that's I

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think part of their legal strategy here is to hey,

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let's maybe apply some pressure on them in a new

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case in Florida and see if that can get us

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what we want in our case in New York. The

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case in New York involves, you know, some claims of

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monopoly and things like that. But so it'll be interesting

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to see how this thing plays out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a few years ago I saw like, just like

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this prime hydration popping up everywhere. I'm like, this is

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not even good for anyway. That's besides the point. But

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it's always intriguing to me to see how these athletes,

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how these influencers, uh you know, navigate these uh in

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and market these products. So uh, let's uh, let's move

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on court fines for Atlanta Falcons in a work comp

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claim by an ex player.

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Speaker 4: Tell us what's going on with this workman's comp claim?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I think this is a really interesting case

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and something we've never talked about much because I didn't

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really know they existed. But you know, everyone's heard of

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workers' compensation claims. And workers' compensations claims grew out of

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a situation where someone is on the job, working for

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their employer in the course of scope of their employment,

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and they are injured. Picture a construction worker who falls

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off a ladder and tweaks his back or breaks his leg.

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He makes a worker's complaim and is entitled to workers'

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comp benefits, which includes wages, medical expenses, different benefits. You know, Ben,

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if you're sitting there at your desk today and you

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get a paper cut on your hand, Well, you're in

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the course of scope of your employment and you can

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make a workers comp claim against Broadway Media. Well, our guy,

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Wayne Gandhi is a fifteen year NFL veteran who played

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last played in two thousand and nine. He played for

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five different teams, one of them was the Atlanta Falcons. Well,

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in twenty fifteen, he filed in the state of California,

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and that's important. He filed for workers' comp benefits. And

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he chose California because California is very favorable to workers

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and they have pretty liberal workers' comp stances on this.

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and years of cumulative injuries, wear and tear on his

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bodies that all happened while what on the job as

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a football player, while what working for his employer, the

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different teams he played for, and he's claiming, Hey, I'm

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entitled to workers' comp benefits as they apply to my injuries. Well,

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he went to this is an administrative thing when he

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went to the workers' compboard and they agreed with him. Well,

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the Atlanta Falcons jumped in and said, oh, not so fast.

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They appealed the decision to the Court of Appeals, and

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the Court of Appills came down on the decision. They said, yeah,

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we don't agree that the Atlanta Falcons are on the

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hook for this because they applied to formula that said,

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formula you didn't play a certain percentage of your games

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in the state of California, which is required for California

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law to apply. They apply to They looked at it

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and said, oh, yeah, by the way, you you did

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play in California a number of times over your career,

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but it only amounted to seven percent of your games.

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was one of the teams, and they said you got

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to have twenty percent of your time for this to apply,

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so he was out of luck on that. And I

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this only really applies to the Falcons, is this claim.

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because the Falcons have won on this. I don't know

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about the other four teams. But I found it really

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interesting because you know, players in all sports are getting

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hurt all of the time, and even when they retire,

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guess what they have nagging injuries from pain and injuries

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that they had from their time while playing. And I

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kind of thought they were exempt from these type of

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claims simply because through the collective bargaining agreement and the

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unions they saw this as a well, you know, you

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athletes are getting hurt all the time, and you know,

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if we open the floodgates for this. So I don't

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know the answer to this. Is interesting to me that

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this came up. Interesting to me that this came up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is interesting. The workmen's comp element of it all.

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I mean, look, there's a lot of shout out to you, brother,

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appreciate you being here. You know, like the nc double

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as run into this obviously with with their you know,

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some of their litigation and legislation that they've they've had

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to deal with, but the NFL really hasn't been They've

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been somewhat protected by these workmen's comp claims.

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Speaker 4: And so why why is that?

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Speaker 2: Why why is it that that workman's comp you know, uh,

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and and I guess injuries sustained on the job that

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end up impacting you two, three, four, five, six years

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down the road aren't necessarily always fong under workmen's comp claims.

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Speaker 3: Do you think, well, before I read this story day,

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I would have thought that was the case, but apparently

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there are you know, the way this is reported in California,

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it sounds like some of these claims have come for

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cumulative injuries. But you know, California applied this percentage thing,

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and file of workers complaim. I think I always thought

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part of the reason was the NFL Players Association and

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the retirement funds and all of that went into place

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to have medical care and that type of thing to

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address this very thing. I'd assume that that's kind of

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how they'd cut this out and kind of you know,

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work themselves out of the workers claims, because you know,

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a player gets hurt and gets puts on injured reserve,

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there's already things in place of how he gets paid,

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how he gets compensated. Certainly his medical care is going

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to be covered, and I think there is the retirement

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plans where you hit your certain pensions where you do

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have medical coverage after your retirement. So that's what I assumed,

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but our guy Winn Gandhi didn't think that that was

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enough in place filed the worker complaims.

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Speaker 2: Complaims, Let's move on to Drake versus Kendrick Lamar for

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all the hip hop enthusiasm the distrack lawsuit. Court dismisses

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Drake's suit nfl avoids a discovery claim.

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Speaker 4: What's going on here?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this grows out of the super Bowl halftime show,

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right that Kendrick Lamar put on and and one of

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those songs was not Like Us, and that's the distract.

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One of them that calls out Drake and as says

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some things about him, including call him a pedophile and

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different things like that. And Drake of course didn't like that,

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and so he brought his own lawsuit. It wasn't against

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Kendrick Lamar directly, but it really against the record label,

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saying they shouldn't have even released this song because it

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was defamatory. And so this is a defamation lawsuit that

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he brought. And I think it's pretty interesting as far

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as I know, this is one of the first times

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that a judge is weighed in on whether or not

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a rap battle and these diss tracks whether these are

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statements of fact or statements of opinion, and the judge

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found that it was these are just opinions, right. This

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is part of what these dis tracks are is it's

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an escalating battle of who can diss the other person more.

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And so there's a lot of things thrown out there,

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and the judge is basically saying, hey, these aren't statements

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of fact, and so they dismissed the case. But like

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you said in the lead in, then I mean the

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NFL is probably breathing a sigh relief because had the

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case gone on and survived this motion to dismiss, it's

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possible the NFL would have had to answer some questions

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about how they allowed Kendrick Lamar to play the song

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at halftime, and you know whether or not they should

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have stepped in and done anything. But now it's a

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moot point and the rap battle. It's just opinions, opinions.

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Speaker 2: Just opinions. The drama continues there. Let's talk about low

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cool rivalry drama.

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Speaker 4: This was crazy.

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Speaker 2: I saw this come across my feet yesterday and still

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getting traction obviously today. The rivalry week always brings volatility

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and in controversy. Apparently there was a man arrested for

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allegedly threatening to shoot Utah fans at a b YU

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football game.

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Speaker 4: Give us the latest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a whole new level of you know what,

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you know, the the rivalry, great, game is great and

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for the most part, everyone you know. But occasionally there's

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the bad apple and this one takes it to another level.

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Thank you for social media. But a gentleman who presumably

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is a BYU fan, but BYU is not going to

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claim him in any way, shape or form. He's just

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a guy who's unhinged. He came out with a couple

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of statements on social media. Quote anyone wearing red on

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Saturday is getting shot. He takes it to another level.

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Come to Lovelle Edwards Stadium and enjoy a bullet in

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your head. Bring your kids too. Well, this was reported

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and law enforcement jump in and he has been arrested

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and held on suspicion of threats of violence and obstruction

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of justice. He has not been formally charged yet. That's

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when we'll see what happens and maybe his name will

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be reported, which, thank you social media, you're going to

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actually get some fame for it, or infamy. So yeah,

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bad luck you know, and nobody likes to see this,

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and so the Rivalry Week so local interest and that's

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why we're talking about it, talking about.

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Speaker 4: It crazy times.

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Speaker 2: There's been many controversial things that have happened over the

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years in this rivalry game amongst fans I mean, I

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mean amongst players, cheerleaders. I mean, what you know from

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your perspective, Like, I mean, do we do we know?

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How how many lawsuits have stemmed from the rivalry or

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Rivalry Week.

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Speaker 4: I want to I wonder.

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Speaker 2: If anything happened with Kyle Whittingham, you know, I think

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his family was you know, purportedly assaulted at Lavelle Edwards Stadium.

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Speaker 4: There was the the b YU fan.

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Speaker 2: That tried to assault the University of Utah cheerleader last

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year up at Rice Echols. There was the son of

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a big or big Utah donor that threw a bottle

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and hit the head and knocked out concussed a women's

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cheerleader for BYU.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we should start, we should aggregate how.

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Speaker 2: Many how many Rivalry Week lawsuits have have come forth

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over the years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that there's been I haven't heard

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of any lawsuits per se, you know, there's the there's

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the beer on my family's head, Max fall incident. You know,

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I think everyone just gets reported. I don't know of

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any lawsuits would have happened because of these incidents. You know,

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maybe maybe there was one last year, the bottle that

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was there was failed security, but I haven't heard that.

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Maybe Garrett could jump in on that.

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Speaker 2: Just we got you, guys, did I lose you? I'm

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not hearing them all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, let's call that a segment.

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Speaker 2: That was another, uh, one of my favorite segments honestly,

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