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Speaker 1: It wasn't loud enough. But hello, ladies and gentlemen, and

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welcome to the Substance Retrospective. Yes, I'm the clown Prince

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of Contraction, Contraction Trass. Now I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: I am the Matrix curricle Patzer.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm Dolmos.

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Speaker 4: I'm the Quaid Taylor Field, the Quaid.

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, Lejon. You might be wondering because we've always said,

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you know, our rule is we don't do retrospective on

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a movie that's not you know, within the five years,

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especially if we're reviewed it before. So you might be wondering,

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why is it this way? Why is not reviewing, you know,

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view retrospective. It's all semantics. But what we can do

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here is on Patreon. If you join and become a

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patron producer our highest here. You get to recommend any

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movie that we have not done before. And we always

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say like a franchise, because every franchise in the world

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we're gonna get to at some point. At some point

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we're gonna get to the Baby Geniuses movies. You know,

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we'll start working our way through them. But luckily so,

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Charlie Randold has been a patron for many times. He's

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joined on a frinight before he's joined on uh the

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gas to the crossovers. But now he has moved at

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the Patreon producer tier, and I'm very excited because I

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was in a big moral dilemma coming up because Golden Geeks,

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as we say, always, we go okay, everyone gets to

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pick one of Hey, I don't think you guys have

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watch this before the Golden Geek stamps, just to have

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a discussion about it, right, So it was between this

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better for me because Charlie meshm said he was saying

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that he want us to talk about the substance, and

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the reason he picked that is because he likes which

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happens a lot on the Patreon producer picks, like going

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all the way back to COVID the classic Colorado space

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getting us to review Wild Wild Stuff. But yeah, here

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we are. This is a movie that did come out

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they've put back in theaters. I was like, oh, how

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and uh, yeah, no, I'll go first because I feel

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like I already talked about the discord. So it's one

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of these weird things where I had watched it and

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then a week later, Charlie became Reducer, so like, oh,

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this is what I'm thinking, and I was completely down

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just because I thought we could have a good conversation here, Like, oh, yeah,

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it doesn't matter if I just watched it. So I

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rewatched it again today and yeah, if you guys haven't

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heard me talk about it, and I think I even

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talked about the Sun Geek First News last week. So

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that's where I'll keep my overalls in. Because it is

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a newer movie. We'll do a usual usually it's just

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into the nitty gritty of it. But yeah, this is

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my second movie the year right now. I kind of

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say this way as right now, we'll see what happens.

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aliens coming down to like announce what's going on. And

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disgusting things and that's why it's like, oh, we're showing

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this very attractive, a very attractive body part, but then

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zipper zipping up to people munching on food, to people

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cooking food, to people just like moving things around. It's

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questionable stuff. It's in a very heidened reality type of world,

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these things that these characters going through. Not exactly some

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the cast before, Like I was a two hundred and

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school and like I still I'm better now, but I

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never feeling good enough or looking good enough, And I

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know how messes with you, and I love how they

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that I already said the beginning, but more in quality together,

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fun and I think it's for me, my fairite quality role.

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like now you can this is a gross movie, so

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there's needles and stuff like that. That's all I could

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the creators of this film, it is such an interesting,

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not an allegory.

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movie seventeen again? Yeah, but it's always that, right, it's

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like the substance juice.

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point just that Dylan had sent a gift and it

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was like something something cringe. I was like, what is

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this could be about? But then it was the cringe

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of Brittany from Big Brother going eh, And then it

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was currently watching The Substance, So mister Muss, how your

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collarbones had?

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Speaker 3: I always wondered the origin of that gif brother. I

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didn't know who she was, but I anytime I can

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use that gif, I do. I just think that is

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such an iconic one. Search it up on on your

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, this was a This is a really I

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want to say it's a really good time, but it's

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and I had to look away at various moments and

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on there, but it's still I felt really weird when

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I was watching it. So yeah, I mean, I think

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to Travis, what you're saying there, Like, the sound is

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so good, the cinematography is fantastic. There's so many just

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close ups in this that I feel like are very powerful,

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even on like Quaid at certain moments that are just

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really really well done. Cinematography is yeah, super good, like

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just the color grading us. There's certain shots that just

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really pop in like such an interesting way. So it's

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really unique in that sense. I think the casting here

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is great, where quality's kind of like still a young

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up and comer to some extent. She's been in a

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ton of things at this point. But then Demi Moore

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you know, but I just have like a perception of her,

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and I feel like this is a perfect role for

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her to kind of I don't know, switch maybe the

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perspective of who she is as an actress in like

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really interesting like backwards way of what the story of

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the character is in this at least from my perspective.

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angle of it. I think I have some right now.

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some of it, kind of like when we talked about

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The Witch recently, and like so many of my thoughts

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changed in the discussion there are some questions I have

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and to what you guys are talking about, Like, there's

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certain this certain amount of it is explained about, other

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stuff is not. But there's just a couple of character

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things that to me didn't really stack up. But it's

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also it's weird to say that at the same time,

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because this movie right from the get go, like really

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establishes its tone and it's not super serious, and then

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at times it does get very serious and dark. But

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for the over the top, colorful, bombastic, which is kind

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of opposite of what you'd maybe expect for a movie

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like this, and I think it really worked for the

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most part. But then there were some sequences in specifically

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a third act that I just feel like this movie

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didn't really know how it wanted to end, is part

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of it. Then there's also some character decisions or things

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like that that just don't really stack up to me,

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just from the technical aspect of it, the acting and

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all that kind of stuff. So yeah, I'm excited to

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break it down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to get to the ending there, So

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of course again we'll we will warn y'all. But Kirkland,

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you know Taylor has his bone thing. I know when

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you get a little anxious, your ass who gets a

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little ischy. So I'm sure you're you're you're flaring up here,

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you know.

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Speaker 6: I didn't know I shared that with anyone, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was terrible when we saw something together and

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just stop it, stoff it.

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Speaker 6: And just kept scratching it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I guess that's where my cringe meter is, like

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where Taylor's his bone thing. But yeah, this was a

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really interesting one for me. I really did not expect

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this to be as much of a I don't know

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if like what would you call it, like a monster horror,

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body of psychological horror. Like I feel like it ticks

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a lot of those boxes off, and I feel like

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this isn't really a genre that is for me, this

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was a really interesting one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, said he is not like the body stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this this one got like really gross for

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me where I felt like there was a lot of

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that being said, I feel like, I'm really glad that

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I did watch this movie. That like, it is really

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really well made to all the points that you guys

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already brought up, whether it was a cinematography or just

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like the sound design, it just felt like it was

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really nailing what he was going for. The close up shots, Yeah,

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we're super super powerful. Performances like across the board were

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just so fantastic. It was really funny seeing Dennis Quaid

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in this type of role because I feel like I

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don't even know what type of box i'd put him in,

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but I just have Dennis Quaid in a certain box

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that it's just like, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: He's he's so like like warm in general.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's day After Tomorrow guy.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah.

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Speaker 2: Literally I watched Day After not too long ago, and

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just having that Dennis quid my mind going into this.

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Speaker 1: What's some one movies with all the kids too, It's

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not true, probably doesn't see other one. Remember he marries someone,

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they have a bunch of No, that's the Steve Martin one.

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Speaker 6: I know exactly what one you're talking about, but oh

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is it yours?

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Speaker 1: Mine? And ours? I think that sounds about right, and

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it's the same thing where they marry and they're all

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together and everything, and he's done a couple like dog

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movies and stuff.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, three legion.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna shut Shaws three out, but there he

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all got that shout out.

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Speaker 2: So but yeah, so this was a really interesting rule

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from him. But like, yeah, with all that being said,

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I feel like I don't ever want to watch this

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movie again. It's just I don't know it. It has

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a lot of gross factor. The third act I really

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wasn't a fan of. I don't know, because like it

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goes places almost like malignant level of just like wild

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that I can't believe what I'm watching. And I'm just

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really really enjoying it for the craziness of it. But

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like again, like there was just so many moments I

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feel like I had to look away. It was just

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so gross.

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Speaker 6: An out of Space as.

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Speaker 2: Well, which never want to watch that movie again, even

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though it is so original and the like, it's a

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fun one to kind of bring up in conversation with

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other people that have seen it. And I will recommend

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this movie to people, but I would, you know, give

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a little word of a warning if they don't like

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that type of yeah exactly, but yeah, no, it's uh,

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it goes places.

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Speaker 1: When you said, because I know these two also talk

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about the issues with the third act. Is yours more

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just the third act that you don't like because purely

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it gets really gross? Or do you also have story

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issues as well that.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna definitely like some character inconsistencies. I think that

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like didn't really stack up, but I don't know. The

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more I kind of thought about it, it's like, I

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guess it kind of fits this world because I think

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it was either brought up like this is kind of

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like a like a point five step up of like

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a heightened reality, like like it seems a little bit

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more cartoony than what normal life is. Though it's kind

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of like still I don't know, fairly accurate, I guess, because.

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Speaker 1: It's like not big spoils. But there's at one point

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where dance Quade's bunch of executives and they ask a

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certain character smile and they do that, and then he

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like skips away and they all skip it away and

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they're like, oh, like they're all just like these very

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cartoony versions of like billionaire men. You know, That's what

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I love that when we did The Witch a couple

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of weeks ago. This is a dark movie but never

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gets to like what Dylan will say, and I think

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it is dark, but never I think it's always has

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its tongue in its cheeks, which I think is probably

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not a bad thing for this movie for to get

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so gross. We're like we saw you don't get that

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break right from a body where it's like it's a

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serious dark movie and that's trap, trap trap, where this

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is like there's multiple times. I especially think in the

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middle portion, I'll just say when Demi Moore is cooking,

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like that's all like comedy goal right there, like she's

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acting her fucking ass off doing that stuff.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the last thing I'll say too

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is I really enjoyed just the like world building aspect

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of like this, the whole idea of what the substance

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is and just like how it's organized. I enjoyed that

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aspect of it of just kind of learning about it

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with our character. I don't know, it just it seemed

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it seemed video gamy or like like I don't know,

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like just just some the mythos I guess around the

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substance and what the company and everything is it was

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just it was interesting.

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Speaker 6: I liked how they tackled it there.

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Speaker 1: I love the dude's fucking voice who was like the

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operator or anything like it. It's so good and I

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love Uh, well, we'll get into it now. So yeah,

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I think I think whether you like it or enjoy it,

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I think we'd all recommend it to some sort of

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level to see it. If you're into the weirder stuff,

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I guess i'd say if yeah, if you're not into

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this isn't a twenty four, this isn't neon, but I

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think it definitely fits in that pocket of it's a drama,

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but it's very zany and very gross and stuff, but

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you're gonna get great visuals and great acting and everything.

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Speaker 3: If you have a weird collarbone thing and you don't

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like that feeling, then don't watch this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, don't ornishysle or itchy asshole.

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Speaker 1: That'll get you. So yeah, so we're into our first break.

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So yeah, like I said, just because it is a

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newer movie, just kind of streaming on last week, if

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you want to go watch it, watch it. Come back.

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This will be here and we'll be right back and

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we're back. So where do we want to start with

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the substance now that we're past the wall.

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Speaker 3: God, it's tricky, isn't it. I want to show out

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like something I forget if it's the exact first shot

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of the movie. But I love the shot of the

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Hollywood star on the ground, which is just like a

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very kind of quick, a quick way to get you,

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get you up to date with like this actress and

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her career, and just kind of I don't know that

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that concept of starting out as a star, and like

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that's such an exciting thing to get a star, a

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Hollywood star, and then just overtime as it starts to

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crack and peel away and ages and like a bird's

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picking at it and a guy drops his hot dog

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on it. I think that was just such a smart,

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provocative thing. I love when a movie just has like

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a one still camera angle and like kind of pans

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over time, I think it can do some really interesting stuff.

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So I thought that was really cool. And then I

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just love any anything that starts and ends in like

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the same spot, you know, obviously, like every Pink Floyd

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album and is that way pretty much, And I love

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that that they're kind of cyclical. They loop, and I

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think that was really powerful for this too, where it's

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kind of like skipping it in a little bit. It's like, Okay,

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this character's arc is done, but you know tomorrow some

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other actress is gonna take the substance and the process

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all starts all over again. I thought that was just

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really really well done.

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a little cleaning machine. There's not like I don't know

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what the fall it would be after the fact, but

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I don't think they're for sure going to know what

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00:20:28,319 --> 00:20:30,240
that thing at the end was was one of those

478
00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:33,279
two right, So and yeah, even like with the actual

479
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,440
physical damage of the star, you have people and it's

480
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,319
like oh yeah, like they'll go and take photos and

481
00:20:38,319 --> 00:20:39,720
it's like, oh, who is that? I think she was

482
00:20:39,759 --> 00:20:42,160
in this movie back in the day, like you see

483
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,720
the downfall, And that's something where like I have to

484
00:20:44,759 --> 00:20:46,599
think of to this quote a few times on Geek first,

485
00:20:46,599 --> 00:20:48,640
but I sold from Conan O'Brian when he talks about like,

486
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,160
at one point Clark Gable was the biggest star in

487
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,000
the world. Now probably majority of this generation doesn't even

488
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,559
know who Clark Gable is, right, And that's where that

489
00:20:55,599 --> 00:20:58,839
kind of shows like the fame and there he was

490
00:20:58,839 --> 00:21:03,720
a very like that generation is George Clooney when Clooney

491
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,119
was at his height, like very good looking guy, very charismatic,

492
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,440
leading a lot of movies. But that's this thing here

493
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,440
where it's like it's it's the same way of chasing looks,

494
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,160
because she's not only just chasing the looks of wanting

495
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,359
to be younger. That's definitely part of it, but it's

496
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,640
that idea of you know, des Quaid, well, when it's fifty,

497
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,160
it stops, like what stops and he just he doesn't,

498
00:21:21,319 --> 00:21:23,519
you know, go on further. But then he's looking up

499
00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:25,119
the skirt of like a young twenty year old or

500
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,079
something like you get it all laid out there. So

501
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,039
it's not only the looks. It's that fame and that

502
00:21:29,079 --> 00:21:31,920
idea of Okay, I don't want to be someone on

503
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,400
the ground that no one even it's just it's just

504
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,920
a piece of cement now pretty much to the people

505
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,200
where she's chasing that dragon. But you know, that's where

506
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,440
it's a you gotta appreciate the things you have because

507
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,000
one she loses her life into uh who knows that

508
00:21:44,079 --> 00:21:46,440
other guy maybe could have been good for that. She

509
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,279
uh stood up unfortunately, you know, poor guy. So poor guy,

510
00:21:51,759 --> 00:21:53,880
poor guy. I know, a star likes to make an

511
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,880
entrance and he's just sitting there at Luigi's all night, like,

512
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,480
at least send a text. She said, Hey, I'm sick,

513
00:21:58,519 --> 00:22:00,440
I can't make it. Don't send. Don't let the guy

514
00:22:00,519 --> 00:22:02,480
sit there on at Luigi's waiting for you.

515
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 7: You know.

516
00:22:02,839 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 2: But I feel like that was the most intense scene

517
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,200
of the entire movie for me, honestly, when when she

518
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,920
was just like kept going back and like looking at

519
00:22:10,319 --> 00:22:12,400
markat quality like on the billboard, and would just keep

520
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,279
going back, and it'd be like her just staring at

521
00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:17,559
the mirror, getting more and more intense. And it felt

522
00:22:17,559 --> 00:22:20,079
like a ten minute scene too, Like it felt so

523
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,440
much longer than I would have expected it to be,

524
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,039
And I think it's just because it kept ramping up

525
00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:28,000
and then it just got to that intense point where

526
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,599
she was just like paralyzed and as if it was

527
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,160
like a like a mental attack on just like her

528
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,400
whole like all of her confidence just completely gone. And

529
00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:41,079
I feel like that that was like before we get

530
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,440
really like sci fi like like that that's where it

531
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,319
felt like, oh, this is actually just like a really

532
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,680
realistic like just find yourself not like worthy enough, you know,

533
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,799
comparing yourself with others, just like all of those like

534
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,440
anxieties that people face like every single day. Like that's

535
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,039
where it felt like that times a couple multiplier, but

536
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,960
like still like we don't have monsters and whatnot up

537
00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:05,200
until that point. So you know, I guess if I

538
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,640
had to pick a crazy moment, it might be later on,

539
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,000
but that one at least for like the most realistic

540
00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:11,920
of the issues.

541
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: And what I like at the beginning is the way

542
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,319
they frame that. It feels like in a movie when

543
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,440
characters are stuck in a loop or something and they

544
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,079
keep being forced back, and she is stuck in a loop,

545
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,960
but it's her going back. Like the way they frame

546
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,880
it looks like she actually can't like leave the house.

547
00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:27,160
It keeps kicking her back, but it's not. And you

548
00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:29,400
just want her not to look at the billboard, but

549
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,880
the billboard just right there staring. She goes, don't put

550
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,640
on more makeup. And one of my favorite shots is

551
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,039
I think it's the last time she's about to leave,

552
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,720
and it's her reflection in the door handle, and of

553
00:23:39,759 --> 00:23:42,119
course it's a door handle that's round it. She looks

554
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,160
like grotesque, and she's like she sees herself and she's like,

555
00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:48,519
oh my god. It's like, well, yeah, cause, but that's

556
00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:50,240
just the thing you can do in your own mind, right,

557
00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:51,799
the way you get yourself worked up. But she sees

558
00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:54,279
herself in a door handle, she's like, oh, I'm hideous,

559
00:23:54,319 --> 00:23:56,200
but it's like no, like you go look at this

560
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,400
mirror and doing worse still like this knockout woman. But

561
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,440
that's just because she literally has this thing over there

562
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,119
that's like, Okay, this is what you could be, you know,

563
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,960
And that's why they say, like you gotta you gotta

564
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,920
respect the bounce. Respect the bounce, you know, and you

565
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,640
know just doesn't get respected obviously.

566
00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, for for a movie that is

567
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,839
like from the jump like pretty absurd, and even like

568
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,319
man to for her, I feel like it'd be hard

569
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,960
to make it believable that a character would take this

570
00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:26,440
mysterious juice that's some creepy guy the doctor's office recommended

571
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,160
where you have to go in this weird alleyway with

572
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,680
the door is broken, and then you get this juice

573
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,359
from a locker and then you put it in your

574
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,000
body and it's like it looks like the toxic stuff

575
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,160
that knocked out stan Lee and the msay cameo. But

576
00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:40,799
I feel like they do a good job of making

577
00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:43,759
it believable in those sequences of Quaid just being an

578
00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:46,440
asshole and her and like why she would want to

579
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,559
take that. So I think they did a really good

580
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,880
job in those first few minutes of really just very

581
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,279
quickly kind of getting into the substance of the movie,

582
00:24:54,319 --> 00:24:56,039
but also into that plot point as well.

583
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, no Quai, that's right, I guess I transition to him.

584
00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:04,319
He's He's pretty fantastic in this movie. Uh. Kirk would

585
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,240
appreciate this because I had heard this before at the

586
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,720
festivals that people had compared him to playing the role

587
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:12,079
like a Vince McMahon type like in real life, And man,

588
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,839
is he like Vince coded in like the worst ways

589
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,680
in this movie. But yeah, I think the beginning's good

590
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,759
where they set it up. That's one of the most

591
00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:22,279
obvious scenes with that shrimp scene. It's just disgusting, not

592
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,440
only though he knit just like that mess that he's

593
00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:27,240
left there, it's so much hundred trimps.

594
00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:30,079
Speaker 6: Yeah, he like crushed a whole hundred trimps, I swear, but.

595
00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: He doesn't care. He's like that obnoxious the whole time.

596
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:34,880
It's like, what's the next thing, What can I be doing?

597
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,079
He's two face to everybody. He's like trying to hint

598
00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:39,519
that she's gonna go out of there, and like he

599
00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:42,240
never really like they let The way they let her

600
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:44,000
go is she just like walks in one and they

601
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:45,960
just have her box ready to go and he has

602
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,160
like a book for it to read. But he does

603
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,720
a great like he's I think the even though it's

604
00:25:50,759 --> 00:25:52,839
a weird movie about taking a drug and you get

605
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:55,319
your younger self here, but I think he's the most

606
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,839
heightened thing in this movie, and it's a it's a

607
00:25:57,839 --> 00:25:59,720
great performance. Eing that shot of him just peeing. It's

608
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,839
just you're like, it's like from the urnal the top

609
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,920
of the urinals perspective, it's such an interesting angle. And

610
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,519
again I think they're just doing stuff to make you

611
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:11,279
feel gross, which I think all of Dennis Quade's characterisms

612
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,279
do that. You know.

613
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I one thing I love about his performance in

614
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,799
this and it's something I wonder if it was in

615
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:20,359
the script or if it's just a directorial thing on

616
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,640
the set or if he chose to do. But he

617
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,640
does a lot of weird little grunts and stuff like

618
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,519
like like just like he'll just kind of rev up

619
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:27,839
a little bit, and I feel like it kind of

620
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,519
it's a bit of as similar to like the sounds

621
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,720
like the monster version of the character is making at

622
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,039
the end. And I don't know if that was very intentional,

623
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,559
but of course a monster making weird little grunting noises.

624
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:41,720
He's making grunting noise obviously, not that he's taken the substance,

625
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,240
I'm not saying that, but just that he is clearly

626
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,920
a monster of a pear never know never very different way. Yeah, possibly,

627
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,640
I guess it could be a couple of layers deep

628
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,039
in that. But I really liked that little touch. I

629
00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:55,000
think he just he handed up like just the right amount.

630
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,119
And it's funny when he came back and like the

631
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,559
third act, I'd kind of forgot about him because feel

632
00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:01,480
like he yeah, was away for like an hour hour

633
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:04,039
and a half or something like that, but yeah, I

634
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:05,720
was like happy to have him back. He's just a

635
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:08,039
very a character you love to hate. I think he

636
00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:09,640
did a really good job of portraying that.

637
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: M Taylor, You're named after the Quade.

638
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,759
Speaker 4: So yeah, he is just, yeah, he's he's quite a character.

639
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,079
He's just so egotistical and just you feel gross whenever

640
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,839
he's walking into the scene and yeah, just how you

641
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,960
said it that that p scene when he walks into

642
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,400
there and he's just shooting all over Jennifer and just

643
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,599
like shitting all over the show and all that jazz

644
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:34,880
literally there listening to.

645
00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: Her name's Elizabeth too, just so you know, I.

646
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 7: Thought, where did I get Jennifer from?

647
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't know because her real name's not Jennifer either,

648
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,799
so I was very confused.

649
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:46,319
Speaker 4: But they say I thought he said Jennifer in the

650
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,000
bath where he says Jennifer.

651
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he's speaking to Jennifer, like it could be that.

652
00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: Sort of, but he doesn't even know her name, like

653
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,119
you forget, Well that would fit because he changes the

654
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,920
name of his assistant, right, Cindy.

655
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 5: Now, so maybe he's just really bad.

656
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you, though, Taylor. I was

657
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,799
like tripping out because I'm like, he doesn't call her

658
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:09,000
that ever. Again, Like I was just confused, but.

659
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, he's just he's such a fucking crazy character.

660
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:18,480
And yeah, from the French Cooking book that they get

661
00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:20,720
her and all that jazz, just just him being just

662
00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:25,039
totally efatuated with Sue and all that jazz, and uh yeah,

663
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:27,519
he's just every time he comes on screen, I was

664
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:30,160
laughing because he was just he's so gross and he

665
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,880
doesn't give a shit about anyone else. And yeah, when

666
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,160
you guys mentioned she can't smile in the hallway, but

667
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,519
he's got the shareholders and he's like, oh, pretty girls

668
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:42,000
should always smile. And then he like turns because the

669
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:45,039
like the side show ladies are like hustling by, and

670
00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:48,720
he's all like all the shareholders are all like gigglings.

671
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 7: Man, this is fucking disgusting and cringey.

672
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of men that I really liked

673
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,359
that out there.

674
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,079
Speaker 7: Colorful.

675
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:56,759
Speaker 5: Oh yeah they were.

676
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 7: They were throbbing, all right.

677
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:01,279
Speaker 5: But yelly, he's.

678
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: And there's like, I don't know, I think it's like

679
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,680
a like a pretty obviously with even named the character Harvey,

680
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,480
you know, like it's to me, I think it's like

681
00:29:09,519 --> 00:29:13,599
a pretty intact comparison to a lot of those figures

682
00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:14,319
in that world.

683
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 7: So m hmm.

684
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: I didn't catch the name, but I didn't catch the name.

685
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:20,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So but yeah, and I guess we should

686
00:29:20,599 --> 00:29:22,960
be clear if people haven't, if they're just listening to

687
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,720
this that Demi Moore she gets in a car accident,

688
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:28,119
like we've bounced around it because we're in the spoils Wall.

689
00:29:28,359 --> 00:29:30,480
She gets in a car accident. She's getting checked up.

690
00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:31,839
She had a bad day because we talked about this

691
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,759
scene when Dennis quid Perm's just hinting like, hey, you're

692
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:36,640
getting old. Uh, they're gonna get the boots soon. He didn't.

693
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,880
He's just hinting at he's not he doesn't have the

694
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,720
guts to say that because she asked him what's he means?

695
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,640
And then he sees oh, oh Roger, and he like

696
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,160
runs away and he's doing his thing. She goes to

697
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,000
a car accident. Doctor checks her, she's all good, says, oh,

698
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:50,079
it's your birthday and you're a sparkle. I love this movie.

699
00:29:50,079 --> 00:29:52,559
And she's having a breakdown because she's fifty now, so

700
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:55,279
she's worried about her career. And then when that doctor leaves,

701
00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:57,680
there's another doctor that comes in and starts doing another checkup.

702
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,359
She's I thought you already did it? He chose you. Oh,

703
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,720
I got one more and then you know it says, oh,

704
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,960
you're a good candidate, and then it gives I can't

705
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,559
remember if he gives her something or if he mails

706
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:06,920
it to her. I can't remember that connection.

707
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:09,759
Speaker 3: There, he's it in her pocket, in her jacket, Okay.

708
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,759
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, and then later yeah, she finds it

709
00:30:11,799 --> 00:30:14,720
listened to is it originally throws it out, but then

710
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:17,200
she is motivated that okay, I'm gonna take this thing.

711
00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:19,200
And then what happens, which I think is just like

712
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:22,680
such a cool scene because I had heard about some

713
00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:24,359
of the stuff, but I didn't know exactly how it

714
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,000
was happening. And even with the poster being you know,

715
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:29,000
it's Demi More in the bathroom and like her back's

716
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:30,960
all stitched up to just have this thing where she

717
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,160
takes a substance. Nothing really happens for a little bit,

718
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,519
and she says, Okay, this is dumb. I've kind of

719
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:38,079
been like scammed or something. Right, She just fucking flatlines

720
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,440
falls to the ground, big hit and have this thing

721
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:43,480
like berthed from her back and you just see your spine.

722
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:45,160
And one of my other favorite shots is too is

723
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,240
when everything's going on and you have like her eye

724
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,480
and Quality's eye and the same eyeball like trying to

725
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:53,680
boot and share each other. And I don't know. That's

726
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,319
what I was always intrigued. When we talk about the

727
00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:57,839
trains and the newscast, She's like, Okay, this idea of

728
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,599
you have to switch and you have to share the body,

729
00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:01,759
because in the I don't think they explain that you

730
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:03,880
have to switch every seven days. So it's like you

731
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,319
have a feeding tube. You give the matrix and they

732
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,680
sit there and they drink it, and then you're ever

733
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,359
supposed to every day going to go in and take

734
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,920
a shot of that and put in your body, and

735
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,839
that's supposed to cycle it and you're supposed to stick

736
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,519
to the seven days. But I just remember the trailers. They

737
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:18,039
didn't reveal that, so it's like, okay, how's this all

738
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:21,160
gonna work? And when that happens, man, what a what

739
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,200
a scene when it comes down qualities there and you

740
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,759
still have her body because I don't even know if

741
00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:27,839
they showed that of them being in the same room together.

742
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,960
So I love the actual birthing scene of the substance.

743
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,960
It's such a good one.

744
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: It was very malignant, like I thought it at first.

745
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:39,240
I thought they were gonna just like reverse in and

746
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,480
out of each other like be the same body, and

747
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:44,279
then it just like switches into quality and then once

748
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,920
once the weeks off, it'll just like fold back, and

749
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:50,319
especially with like the eye like going backwards. But yeah,

750
00:31:50,359 --> 00:31:54,799
that was just yeah, that was the mind blowing to

751
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:56,400
just see your crawl right out and then have to

752
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,880
like sew her back up right afterwards. You know that

753
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,359
that was like not even that gross up until that point.

754
00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:06,079
I'm like, Okay, that's that's not too bad. But little

755
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:08,559
did I know what AC three had for me. But yeah,

756
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:12,319
I really liked again, just like the whole what like

757
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:14,839
the rules I guess of using the substance and the

758
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,720
matrix and like just the feeding two that she had

759
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:21,359
set up for and just like how kind of like

760
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,759
brutal like the transformation was, because like you said, t

761
00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:26,319
I was like she just like drops right on like

762
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:29,759
the hard tile floored naked bodies just laying.

763
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:30,559
Speaker 6: There for like a week.

764
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: I imagine she's got some bruises and uh, yeah, I

765
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,119
don't know. I imagine I would have set up like

766
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:38,440
a bed or something, you know, make it a little

767
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,440
bit comfortable, because imagine when you wake up you feel terrible.

768
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,720
It's like you just snapped for four hours and you're dehydrated,

769
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:45,599
and Hunky.

770
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: Goes to the effort of like echo locating a hole

771
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,160
in the wall, smashes a hole, build this whole room

772
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,680
builds like a hidden door, which like must not have

773
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,000
been easy for someone who presumably has no like construction background.

774
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,119
And then yeah, it doesn't even put like a mattress

775
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,680
on the ground, Like no, just no respect. You would think,

776
00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:05,039
like even for yourself, like before you would take it,

777
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:06,880
you would lay yourself down on a mattress, But now

778
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,839
they're happy to just sit on the nasty ground the

779
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:10,279
hold on.

780
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 4: I mean, that's an interesting thing to mention because it

781
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,079
kind of shows the immediate divide between them, right, like

782
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,000
how they don't have a respect.

783
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 5: For each other.

784
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:24,079
Speaker 4: And I think again, they have the whole like you

785
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,279
are you are the same, like you are one is

786
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:28,640
what they say, right, You're not two separate people. And

787
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,480
that's where I was trying to kind of figure out

788
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:36,079
how the consciousness works between the two, because obviously you

789
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:42,519
have when you have the interesting dream sequences where like

790
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:44,440
More is eating chicken all that kind of stuff, and

791
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,160
so then Sue is just starting to have like weird

792
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,519
dreams of yeah, chicken popping out of her ass and

793
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:52,759
pulling out of her belly button, which is fucking disgusting.

794
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:56,000
But then you also have okay, real life moments when

795
00:33:56,599 --> 00:34:01,599
Sue slept with the biker, and then Moore's character Elizabeth,

796
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:04,519
she's standing there and sees the biker, obviously recognizes him

797
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:07,319
and knows who it is, but just so's it's weird

798
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:13,400
how they share each other's memories, but it's not necessarily

799
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,920
like totally in sync.

800
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,159
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I love because what I love about

801
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,960
this the most is maybe not the most, but like

802
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,639
one of the top things is they say that, right,

803
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,679
the substance guy says, you are one like both of you, right,

804
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:27,920
whatever you know, whatever you do to one side does

805
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,079
the other. But there's a point where Demi Moore says, oh,

806
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:34,320
she's doing this. Elizabeth says that, and he goes, no,

807
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,320
you share the same conscious like you're doing this, And

808
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,159
that's why I love that. Either just bullshit, right, it's

809
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:41,360
just like what they're saying is two separate minds, or

810
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,239
it is in the sense that it is like whether

811
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,719
this would have been like what because we don't know

812
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,920
what Elizabeth was when she was younger, right, she could

813
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,559
have been cutthroat like this, because at times Sue is

814
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:51,760
cutthroat because she wants to get to that top level. Right.

815
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:53,840
So for me, I like the way I read it

816
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,679
is they are sharing a consciousness. It's just that they

817
00:34:57,159 --> 00:35:02,039
there's that jealousy still from like Elizabeth Side, that hey

818
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:04,639
you are you know, young beautiful, You're getting all this

819
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,639
fame and it doesn't even matter if I'm living vicariously

820
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:10,920
through you. It's not me and Sue's jealousy is no

821
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,880
matter what, I always have to come back to this

822
00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:15,559
body like I have to, like I can't be on

823
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:18,360
my own. So I like the way that they you know,

824
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,239
I guess the substance literally does say you are one.

825
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,840
So you could take this as there the same conscience.

826
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,000
But I think in the way they do a good

827
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:25,159
job to show you that. Okay, it could just be

828
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:27,000
two separate beings, but I do think there is a

829
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:29,679
way that they share it. And there's times where it's

830
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,000
like Demi Moore will be mad at you know, quality

831
00:35:33,039 --> 00:35:35,159
for doing something, but it's like, ah, I feel like

832
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,599
you would have done that, you know, like you would

833
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:39,920
have wanted to go down that route. And even then

834
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,320
when we have like earlier in the film, I think

835
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,199
it's before she takes the substance, she's at the bar

836
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,960
and she's looking at all like these young guys talking

837
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,280
to girls and no she's They do this great shot

838
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,199
where they pan out and there's people talking on each

839
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,559
side and she's alone and there's no one even looking

840
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:55,559
at her. So that's where it's like, this, how come

841
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:58,880
the first the first night really case, she's does some stuff,

842
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,440
but the first night she goes a dance studio, a

843
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:03,159
stew she goes out right away and then tries to

844
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:03,760
fuck a guy.

845
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: Right.

846
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,079
Speaker 1: So that's the thing where it's like, to me, it's

847
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:10,000
like there is that sense of whatever they're wanting now,

848
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:12,119
you know. The food, I think that's just uh. I

849
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:14,159
think Elizabeth just gets a little worked up and she's

850
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,920
just dealing with some stuff. But I love the the

851
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,239
consciousness and how much do they share and how much

852
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,239
do they not share? And I like that they don't

853
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,559
exactly answer it for me. I like that it's left open.

854
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's interesting because I think by the time

855
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:30,519
I was done watching it, I was pretty convinced that

856
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,000
like they they really are just like you know, they're

857
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,719
obviously created from the same DNA or so it states,

858
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,800
and then they split at that moment, and then their

859
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,480
memories kind of go their own separate ways. And it's

860
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:45,400
like one of those things where if obviously, if if

861
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,519
Elizabethan knew how the rules of this thing were gonna be,

862
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:51,159
then she would not have taken it because it just

863
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,440
creates this like other version, but you don't experience any

864
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,599
of that stuff. And I didn't ever really get I

865
00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:01,039
didn't really ever see her getting satisfy action from having

866
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:03,760
that other version of getting to experience any of that.

867
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,559
And I don't know if maybe I'm just seeing it

868
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:09,000
wrong as like it's coming across as jealousy and that's

869
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,719
why she's freaking out about certain things. But I kind

870
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,039
of forgot about that scene that you mentioned, Taylor, when

871
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:16,480
she bumps into the guy on the bike, and i'd

872
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,599
have to watch that scene again to see that exactly

873
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:19,400
what she says.

874
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,039
Speaker 1: But to me, she doesn't say anything.

875
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 7: She's very because get out of my way.

876
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, like does.

877
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: She recognize him then or is he just being like

878
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:30,920
kind of chaotic in the front of her building. And

879
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,599
that's kind of a concerning thing that anyone would be like,

880
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,000
that's kind of weird. Some guys got really aggressive in

881
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:36,760
front of me, and.

882
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: I guess the thing for me like tips it off,

883
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,159
Like if she's getting sas faction out of it is

884
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:43,400
the very end when she tries to bring her back,

885
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:46,239
right because she sees the whole New Year's spread and

886
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,480
sees she's gonna be a big star. She literally terminated

887
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,199
her substance, right, and then it's that idea of man,

888
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:54,480
I'm letting this go. She's gonna have her big moment.

889
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:57,159
Whether it's I care for this substance, but I don't

890
00:37:57,159 --> 00:37:58,719
think so. I don't think there's a caring thing. So

891
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,360
that's why I think it's more her because she tries

892
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,639
to bring her back after she's like, man, she's gonna

893
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:05,840
be this big star and I ruined that, and that,

894
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,039
in a sense is me again being a big star.

895
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,519
I gotta bring her back, which obviously does not go

896
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,559
well for Elizabeth really poorly.

897
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:18,639
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, it's it's uh, it's a really interesting

898
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:21,400
thing that the wee element of it and the connection

899
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,400
between them, it doesn't uh yeah, is it because they're

900
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,440
doing it wrong in some way? Obviously? Because quality Sue

901
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,559
at some point is taking more time and that has

902
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:35,000
like the very obvious physical effects of making her look

903
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:38,199
like Gallam just you know, deteriorating as time goes on.

904
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,920
But yeah, is there's something about like the mindset of

905
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,119
it that they weren't doing correctly and that's what was

906
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:47,400
messing with them, because it seemed like the other guy,

907
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,079
like the nurse, who was then like just old guy

908
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:53,480
in the restaurant, like he seemed to be doing all right.

909
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,760
He was a little like he was kind of trippy,

910
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,400
but he didn't seem like he was falling apart, and

911
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,440
presumably well obviously been doing it longer than she had.

912
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,119
I don't know how if there was like a time

913
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:04,519
jump at that point, because at some point it is

914
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:06,199
a six month time jump, but I think that's at

915
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:06,440
the end.

916
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,159
Speaker 1: It was before it was yeah, three months, and when

917
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,000
she bummed that guy, that was before that time jump

918
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:18,320
because she just got the bad finger, so right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

919
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,800
What we take from the.

920
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I feel like the way that it was

921
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,280
set up initially really makes it feel like Demi Moore's

922
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,199
character is completely like cognizant, Like when she's in Sue's body,

923
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,719
at least that's how I was kind of reading it.

924
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,119
So for me, it felt kind of inconsistent, how like

925
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:38,280
not quite right at the end, but like there's just

926
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,599
moments when it seems like like she just doesn't know

927
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:43,320
what's going on, and maybe it's just because the project

928
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,360
isn't going the way that it should be, because the

929
00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:49,679
reason why I thought that they were so cognizant of

930
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,800
what's going on is because like when she first switches

931
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,920
and she's just like checking herself out in the mirror,

932
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,320
like I that, like that really feels like Demi Moore

933
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,159
inside that body, like look at this youth that I

934
00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:01,480
have right now, And then she does that like quite

935
00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:04,239
a few times. And then I also feel like when

936
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,920
she's dealing with Quade's character, like it just seems I

937
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,440
don't know, like like when whether she's Elizabeth like speaking

938
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,920
to Quaid after being Sue speaking of Quaid, it seemed

939
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,159
like she like remembered like the conversation. At least that's

940
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,800
what I kind of got from the body language. So

941
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,199
it just it felt inconsistent and like kind of how

942
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:25,559
the rules were, and I would have wished if that

943
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,159
was the case just a little bit more clarity like no,

944
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,480
because you know she's got the stinky finger. Now, maybe

945
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,280
that's why it's, uh, you're starting to misremember because yeah,

946
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,360
when she's doing her full on chef out, you know,

947
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,519
like cooking everything in the kitchen and doing the fucking

948
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,599
newspaper on the windows, and like when Sue comes back,

949
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:47,840
she's like, what the fuck do Yeah.

950
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: I thought that saved my phone out it's on the

951
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:52,280
And that's why I love though before And that's why

952
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,159
it's difficult to see like what they're doing, because they're

953
00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:57,360
almost talking to each other, because there's one point before

954
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,639
Demimore goes to sleep, she's like talking like you stopped

955
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,400
fugging do this, and then it's cuts to you know,

956
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:05,280
Caully in the mirror looking in say like control yours.

957
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,039
So it's just like, that's why I think they gotta

958
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:09,920
be sharing something up there, right, And I agree with

959
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,719
you where for me, the only thing that gets me

960
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,559
off of the like they share consciousness is the Dennis

961
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:17,559
Quaid stuff. But that's why I just bring up of

962
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,760
we don't know what she was like when she was younger,

963
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,840
so maybe she's the exact same of just like she

964
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,280
was just oh because she got stars, this and that,

965
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,559
you know, you know, acceptance and popularity was she likes

966
00:41:28,559 --> 00:41:30,400
so when she was younger or she was just willing

967
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,320
to do everything, And like I would kind of believe

968
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,239
it because she like she took the substance in the

969
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,559
first place, and when she got the fucking finger, she

970
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,440
kept going, even when she looked like the witch after

971
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,320
it was like a couple of weeks, that's when you

972
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,280
should cut it off, but she kept going. So that's

973
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,239
why I like, I would still kind of believe she

974
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,000
would be giddy around Dennis Quaid and those gross people

975
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,239
because she she wants to be accepted by them, right,

976
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,639
So that's that's where I like the character. It's a

977
00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:54,239
flawed character, even like I said, at the end of

978
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,920
her life, she decides to give up her own life

979
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,760
and look like she's in her mind when she brings

980
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,119
back Sue, she's probably thinking that she's gonna go back

981
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:05,320
in that bathroom, right, and she's gonna look even words

982
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,719
another now Sue, which I think has very right to

983
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,960
kills her because she sees the termination pen and what

984
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,559
else are you gonna do? You think this person trying

985
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:15,239
to kill you? Kills her in a very awful way

986
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,280
of just destroying her face on that mirror and just

987
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:25,119
ribcage broken for days. But you know that's what literally

988
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:27,039
the rest of her life. Yeah, And I don't know

989
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:29,039
i'd have to make we don't do this a Golden Geeks,

990
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:31,960
but whatever my favorite shots of the year are, it

991
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:35,599
might be one or two, but we do best scene,

992
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:38,000
so I don't think this would qualify though. It's when

993
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,760
she gets the termination pen and Debbi Moore like has

994
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,239
the whole get up around everything like that, and she

995
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,239
has quality by the foot and she is just dragging

996
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,000
her out the hall down the stairs, and I just

997
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:51,639
love that camera that like stick turns that just sticks

998
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:53,639
with them, and whether they probably got on a Dolly

999
00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:56,119
but like Dolly running with them. I love just that

1000
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,760
shot of her just tearing through her apartment with this body.

1001
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:01,000
It's so good.

1002
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:06,599
Speaker 3: So yeah, a couple other things with with the substance itself,

1003
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,079
with the juice of it, like just thinking about and

1004
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,079
we're talking about like how much how much do they

1005
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:13,480
share and all that, and really at the end of

1006
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,000
the day, it seems like it's just probably some really

1007
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,960
sadistic rich person who's doing this experiment. Yeah, for fun,

1008
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,840
because like, at no point do we ever see like

1009
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,039
money being transferred, right, Like, I don't think there's any

1010
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:28,559
any cost to this thing. It's really just taken. And

1011
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:30,760
then like what I'm a little curious about is like

1012
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,880
the observation because I assume they're doing it and they

1013
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,119
want to observe the people who are taking it. I

1014
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:39,599
guess in that case, I mean, you can like see

1015
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:41,280
Sue on TV, so you can kind.

1016
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:42,519
Speaker 1: Of observe in that one.

1017
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 3: But one thing I was kind of curious about, like

1018
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,599
when when it's kind of right near the end of

1019
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:51,480
the movie and Elizabeth hears like that voice from across

1020
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,400
the room. I forget what he says exactly, but it's

1021
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,599
not like when she's on the phone with him, but

1022
00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:57,159
she just hears his voice at some point. Now at

1023
00:43:57,199 --> 00:43:59,519
that point, she very well could just be hallucinating. But

1024
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:01,800
how do you guys take that? Was she hallucinating or

1025
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,199
was there actually some physical voice coming from somewhere.

1026
00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: I took it like it was just in her mind,

1027
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,119
Like it's just I don't know, like it's the weight

1028
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:13,199
of the decision, like speaking to her, like you can

1029
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,519
know you cannot go back after that, Like you sure

1030
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:17,079
you want to do this, and then it's just like,

1031
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,760
holy shit, do I really want to do this? And yeah,

1032
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,079
So that's kind of how I went with it. If

1033
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:26,280
it had happened like more often, maybe I would have

1034
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,119
thought it was more like engineered.

1035
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:29,679
Speaker 6: With the substance, I could.

1036
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 3: Be prepared to like think about what it would actually

1037
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:35,159
be if there was if that voice was physical, Like

1038
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:37,159
what would that really mean for the movies? You staying

1039
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:39,280
at the apartment? Is that the neighbor for something like

1040
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,480
somehow that would be crazy.

1041
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,159
Speaker 1: Oh neighbor, great little character of just another terrible male

1042
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,320
character just hates hates Elizabeth. But just like I saw

1043
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,760
your video pull me up and he's just saying, oh,

1044
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,119
dinner tonight, and she didn't give him asks a note like.

1045
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 6: It just like some monster versions.

1046
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,159
Speaker 1: She's like fuck yeah, But I'm with currently. I think

1047
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:02,440
it was just in her mind because she's just she

1048
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:04,880
just is falling down that rat hole and she's going

1049
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,000
and keeps going and going and going. So yeah, I

1050
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:13,800
would say it's that yep. But yeah, and then so

1051
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,239
we talk about a little bit, but yeah, she decides

1052
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,119
to not go back. She just skips a day that

1053
00:45:18,199 --> 00:45:23,039
gets her finger. But then they offer the maybe it's

1054
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:24,519
a little bit later on. There's a couple of times

1055
00:45:24,519 --> 00:45:26,599
where it's not the months. Yeah, but it's like a

1056
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:29,440
couple it's at least a week maybe a little longer

1057
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:31,239
than that, where she's getting like the cover of Vogue,

1058
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,880
and I love every time she comes like, oh, yeah,

1059
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,119
we're on the cover. That's the other thing too, why

1060
00:45:35,159 --> 00:45:37,960
I go back and forth because she literally does say

1061
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:40,440
were on the cover of Vogue. You know. That's the

1062
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,920
thing where it's just like that could just because she

1063
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,639
feels like this is like a mother owner situation. But

1064
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:46,840
there's just for me, there's too many times where they

1065
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,280
like allude to that type of stuff. But yeah, Demi

1066
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,639
Moore comes out looking really bad. Yeah, I guess we

1067
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:55,119
already covered the Roger guy where yeah, he was just

1068
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,760
completely in love with her high school, got her number,

1069
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,400
which that's like another great shot. Loves when she drops

1070
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,239
the number and it's like gross mud and then later

1071
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,480
on it's like it's right, that stuff was like, oh yeah,

1072
00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:06,760
that happened. Like the first ten minutes, that's where you're like, oh,

1073
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,440
this is gonna be one of those gross movies, isn't it.

1074
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,000
Because anytime you've dropped something that like that muddy water like,

1075
00:46:12,039 --> 00:46:12,880
oh this sucks.

1076
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,079
Speaker 2: Like when he just hands it to her, I feel

1077
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,639
like it's like, dude, fucking write another note, like come on,

1078
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:19,039
you know the hand that much?

1079
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, so she stood him up. We talked

1080
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:24,360
about that scene where she was just going to town

1081
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,840
on her face, which you know, a great scene bybe More.

1082
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,079
And then yeah, she wakes up and she I love

1083
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:33,280
the call with the substance. She's like, I think there's

1084
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,360
been a misuse of it and I'd like to find

1085
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,840
out how to you know, do this. And then she's like,

1086
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,760
I don't feel someone's I can't remember the setup. But

1087
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,199
she's like, oh, someone's not respecting the boundaries. And he's like, well,

1088
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,719
learn to respect them. And then they just like hang

1089
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,199
up and she's just like gagged and like what do

1090
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,760
I I do here? And yeah, she just goes to

1091
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,719
town with that French cookbook and just like eats everything. Again.

1092
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,079
That's there's just one point where she's like egg batter

1093
00:46:55,559 --> 00:46:58,079
and she's stirring it and she just like smashed it

1094
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:02,199
up on her face. It's that whole sequence with the chicken.

1095
00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:05,159
And then you also have Margret Quality just shitting on her,

1096
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,239
like just shitting on her on the TV show of like, yeah,

1097
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,119
it was kind of old fashed and Jurassic yoga and everything.

1098
00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:13,719
And that's the thing I wanted to talk about that

1099
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,039
in the portion the kind of in between us we're

1100
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:17,800
going to talk about this is what I love about

1101
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,280
this movie. There's something that always happens on like it's

1102
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,440
a trending like on Facebook and Twitter. These things always

1103
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,639
come up every month because it's like an algorithm, but

1104
00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:28,079
people always catch a like bait from They're always like,

1105
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:30,360
Who's who's looked the I think I've talk about before,

1106
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,480
like who's the best looking You've ever seen a movie? Ever?

1107
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:34,880
And it's always like Cameron Diaz from The Mask and

1108
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,280
like Margot Robbie from Wolf the Wall Street. Now I

1109
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,679
feel like because the way they shoot her and how

1110
00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:42,519
she looks, Quality's gonna get that with this movie. But

1111
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:45,000
what I loved and what is you know, you know,

1112
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,239
a getting my collar bone messed up? Is so when

1113
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,280
we get to that yoga scene and the dance is

1114
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,719
happening quality you know, great looking girl, great shape, everything

1115
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,000
like that, and they the camera cinhotography director, they shoot

1116
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,880
her in just like this goddess type of way, right,

1117
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,519
But then they get so close to her where I

1118
00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:03,679
feel and I think they do this on purpose because

1119
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:05,519
they make you almost want to feel like the Dennis

1120
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:08,440
Quaid type of character that is just looking at that stuff.

1121
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:11,760
But these shots of her body get so close that

1122
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,440
I start to feel uncomfortable watching these dance scene because

1123
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,119
they're just you're like, inch, you feel like you're a

1124
00:48:18,159 --> 00:48:20,039
creeper when you're going on, because they have the cameras

1125
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:22,840
like inches away from her most like private areas where

1126
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,400
I'm like, I can't believe we're this close. And that's

1127
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,199
why I you know, it sounds weird, say love, but

1128
00:48:26,199 --> 00:48:27,480
I love that they kind of did that because I

1129
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:30,079
feel like they're trying to put you in that state

1130
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,800
of mind, like what when Danis Quad's like, oh you're perfect,

1131
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,800
I watch you like I love it, Like they're trying

1132
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,639
to make you feel like that. And then even worse

1133
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:40,960
when Demi Moore feel sees that because then everyone's loving

1134
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,639
it and obviously that's something you can't do. She has

1135
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:44,679
this great one where she's like, oh, yeah, you like

1136
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:46,519
when you see something, She like opens up a rope

1137
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:48,719
and she's like flashing the TV and she's like obviously

1138
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,519
all witch like and everything. So that whole sequence again

1139
00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:54,480
where you have this juxposition of this dance scene where

1140
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,960
it's pretty much like looking like softcore porn like shots.

1141
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,280
So well, and then you have the cooking scene, which

1142
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,280
is just the gross discussing. It's just food. It's not

1143
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,400
body part, it's not what we get to later. It's

1144
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,480
just food. But man, they do such a good job

1145
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:10,559
with that dichotomy.

1146
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 7: Are you dancing in your living room saying pump that

1147
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,920
up when you're watching.

1148
00:49:13,679 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 1: These contract contract I do like the song, and now

1149
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,760
that I've seen it twice, it gets stuck in the

1150
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,880
head a little bit more. But yeah, I can't. You know,

1151
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,760
maybe XPlay and for hour stream will do that. We'll

1152
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,360
do their routine geek fors yoga.

1153
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,199
Speaker 4: You know, what do you guys think they saw in?

1154
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,199
I mean, I guess actually it was just a dream,

1155
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:30,199
a dream.

1156
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

1157
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 7: It wasn't actually any.

1158
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: Great tension building scene though, when it like she gets

1159
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,519
a bubble popped in her butt and then everyone's it's like, oh,

1160
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:39,559
we got to stop some wrong with cameras which camera

1161
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:42,320
camera too, and just like that, all lights go in

1162
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,239
this one monitor and it's of her ass. You're like,

1163
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,400
oh no, and then they're like so they slow it down,

1164
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,360
like wait, that's not slow enough. Go frame by frame

1165
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,360
and like it's just like the uncut gems were like,

1166
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,360
oh my fucking chick, son't give me in a robe,

1167
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,920
Please get me a robe. I need to get out

1168
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,639
of here. And then the chicken. But yeah, I'll see

1169
00:49:56,639 --> 00:49:59,440
it was a dream sequence. But I loved the pacing

1170
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,039
of that the ass bubble scene, it's so good.

1171
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: I like it too because it like it showed that

1172
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,400
like up until that point, that character's like perfect right

1173
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,519
like completely flawless, and then right away like something that

1174
00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:14,159
she thinks people are gonna judge her on or like

1175
00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:16,360
seeing imperfection, it's like, oh my God, like give me

1176
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,480
my robe. Like all of a sudden, she is really

1177
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,159
insecure in her own body and just it it did

1178
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,440
not take well. I was gonna say, it doesn't take much.

1179
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,639
I guess that is something pretty big, having a full

1180
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,679
chicken wing in your in your body but never had it.

1181
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,840
But I also just like, I guess the symbolism of

1182
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,480
what that is, like it could just be because she

1183
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:37,360
ate a chicken wing right, like like maybe that's what

1184
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,719
adds I don't know, some fat on her body or

1185
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,400
something that like makes her feel like super insecure.

1186
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 6: So yeah, I.

1187
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: Could completely just be in your mind, you know, like

1188
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,440
that's a sort of sort of idea of like, oh,

1189
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,159
I shouldn't eat this because if I eat this, this is

1190
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:52,159
gonna do x Y and zed body, which really is

1191
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:55,159
just supposed to eat most times for fuel and to

1192
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,440
make your body get through the day. Right, But everyone's

1193
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,280
had that where it's like, oh, I should I eat this,

1194
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,119
and I'm eating too much, et cetera. And honestly, I

1195
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:04,440
would say Lizabeth is eating too much. When you look

1196
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,840
at that kitchen, it is amrgas Borg. When she wakes

1197
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:08,199
up in.

1198
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 4: There, well, Sue wakes up and looks at like Elizabeth

1199
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,480
Scott like chicken fingers like not the chicken figers, Like

1200
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,920
her fingers are cold and chicken are you do grease?

1201
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:19,079
Speaker 7: Like it's just yeah, it's a little gross.

1202
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then after that, which I love the way

1203
00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:24,079
they frame it because they it's a dream sequence. But

1204
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:26,679
when she gets in the studio, they're they're like ripping

1205
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,079
the set down. Harvey wants to talk to you, so

1206
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:30,800
you're like, oh fuck, maybe it wasn't dream mate, it

1207
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,480
was like the previous day, right, and she just went

1208
00:51:32,519 --> 00:51:34,280
to sleep. But then like, oh no, you're doing the

1209
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,320
New Year's Special. And at this point, which this is

1210
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,400
where it lives in like a very fantastical world, right,

1211
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,880
because like she does one show, Oh you're a megastar,

1212
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,440
we want to sign you this okay, but I can

1213
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,239
only do one week on, one week off and quit.

1214
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,960
It's like whatever you want, we'll make it work. Like

1215
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,639
that's where it's like none of that stuff is super realistic.

1216
00:51:48,679 --> 00:51:51,039
But with this time it's a New Year's Special, so

1217
00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:53,559
New Year's Eve Special she has to prepare. So I'm

1218
00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:55,000
not gonna say it was as bad as like the

1219
00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:57,840
Endgame five years Lare drop a man When she goes

1220
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,920
in there at the needle and just fades a black

1221
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,519
three months later, it's like, man, what is Demi Moore

1222
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:06,519
gonna be looking like later on? And just like that

1223
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,199
Hansy had mentioned this because she hates needles, so just

1224
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,519
that montage of needle pus needles and when they have

1225
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,719
her like gettings, when they have her back hole again

1226
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,440
and it's like grotesque and like she literal use like

1227
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:21,639
all her muscles again there. And I love when they

1228
00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:25,320
just pan over and you just see fucking vials and

1229
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,960
jars of this shit and it's like, oh.

1230
00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:30,599
Speaker 2: My yeah, I think that was the grossest thing for me.

1231
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,480
I just like I had to stop watching every time

1232
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:35,039
she was going into that room. It was just some

1233
00:52:35,159 --> 00:52:38,440
nasty stuff going on. But yeah, like the wound just

1234
00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:41,320
kept getting big, like just worse and worse. And I'll

1235
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,639
tell like, after the three month period, there's just like

1236
00:52:43,679 --> 00:52:47,039
a sheet over and it's just like, man, what type

1237
00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:49,519
of grotesque monsters under there? And I knew we were

1238
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:51,119
gonna be seeing it, so it was like a nice

1239
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:53,639
buildup of tension of like, okay, we saw what she

1240
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,199
looked like after you know, she took like a day

1241
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,079
or so, after a couple more hours, but hell, three

1242
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:01,679
months later and which she goes and there's just like, yeah,

1243
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,760
used vials. It was just so nasty, like just totally

1244
00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:07,079
milk farming her.

1245
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

1246
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 6: And the last one too that came out like brown

1247
00:53:10,639 --> 00:53:11,760
is like, oh my god.

1248
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,159
Speaker 1: It's like, don't use that one. We're getting too desperate here,

1249
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:14,920
don't do it.

1250
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 3: Even like the when she's watching TV and like her

1251
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,280
leg is just not working properly, but he wants to

1252
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,000
stand up and get the get the book at that point,

1253
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:26,199
like that will see like the bone crunching noises in

1254
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,920
this are so good slash disgusting, but yeah that that

1255
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:32,880
sequencing as well was nasty.

1256
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: And then yeah, so that happens they do. Eventually, Sue

1257
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,239
has to switch back over because she's has like a

1258
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,760
you know, I guess some sort of steady boyfriend. I

1259
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,960
do love this shot where, uh, when Demi work comes

1260
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,920
back and she's like in the Witch Body, it's her

1261
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,400
against the door and she's like her ass and then

1262
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,519
they cut right to the guy's ass like it's another

1263
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:56,159
good like juxposition of like monstrous ass and then like

1264
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,000
thirty year old jack guy's ass like it's such a

1265
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,639
good and then he gets the out of there, but

1266
00:54:00,679 --> 00:54:03,840
she has to switch back because she's bleeding in the substance,

1267
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,400
which I love. Every time they called they're like, oh,

1268
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,679
it's whatever so and so and it's dead signs and

1269
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:09,360
like it's real fun, like okay, how can we help?

1270
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,800
Like they won't even and that's what I love. They

1271
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,760
won't even acknowledge that it's like a person it's a subject, right,

1272
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,360
like what you're talking about earlier, Dylan. It's just like

1273
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,000
it's data for them. But they say, oh no, it's uh,

1274
00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:21,440
it's gone dry. You gotta you gotta switch back to

1275
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:24,320
get that formula refilled. They switched back, and we kind

1276
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,840
of already talked about this a little bit where she

1277
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,000
Uh sues not she wants to end it, but then

1278
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:32,519
she realizes, Okay, maybe I don't want this a little

1279
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:34,239
too late that she put the formula in her, but

1280
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,599
she finds a way. I get her blood there heart

1281
00:54:36,639 --> 00:54:40,119
pumping brings up, which I was surprised. I thought in

1282
00:54:40,159 --> 00:54:42,119
this movie, we're actually never gonna obviosly there I know,

1283
00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:43,760
in the same room, but I thought there was a

1284
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,840
good chance they were never gonna have a scene together.

1285
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,119
So I was kind of shocked when that happened. When

1286
00:54:48,199 --> 00:54:51,400
Qualley got up and just a great like that's why

1287
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,079
I love again the hide in the world. There's just

1288
00:54:53,159 --> 00:54:55,039
one moment, and I can build this up in my

1289
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:57,559
head because the substance maybe has some special jews. But

1290
00:54:57,639 --> 00:55:02,360
mar Margaret Uh kicks and she goes like matrix flying

1291
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,159
across the room, and I love that hole is the

1292
00:55:05,159 --> 00:55:07,599
matrix she is the matrix. Yeah, and I just love

1293
00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:10,400
that we get like this like many five minute action

1294
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,079
fight scene, which is not really much of a fight.

1295
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:16,480
It's just Elizabeth getting pretty much hits, pretty one sided.

1296
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,159
Speaker 3: I'm the price. She could even walk after once again

1297
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,239
that that coach scene. She could barely stand up with

1298
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,559
like the one leg situation, Like her whole body has

1299
00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:28,480
been like that for months.

1300
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 6: There's a pressure.

1301
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,519
Speaker 4: She could even move around on the stairs too, like

1302
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:34,719
she was gliding down those stairs in Hag for him.

1303
00:55:36,159 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: She got that adrenaline her soul, you know. But Yeah,

1304
00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:43,000
and as we talked about, Sue decides she's gonna kill

1305
00:55:43,079 --> 00:55:45,199
Elizabeth just in the he in the mode. But again,

1306
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,960
she cries after she does that. I don't know if

1307
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,920
that's because it's murder and she just killed someone, don't

1308
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,519
know if it's because that is like a part of her.

1309
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,519
But I like that touch that she cries. But you know,

1310
00:55:53,639 --> 00:55:55,639
she's got the big New Year, so show she'll just

1311
00:55:55,639 --> 00:55:58,840
go get ready for that. Everything's going swimmingly. She's talking

1312
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,880
to all these people, but of course and it's like,

1313
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,719
oh man, we're about to really hit the fan here. Uh,

1314
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,480
just a random tooth of Sue's falls out and then

1315
00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:10,440
more teeth fall out, her nails are coming out, everything.

1316
00:56:10,639 --> 00:56:12,639
Terry talk about that scene when they asked her smile

1317
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,559
I love. She's like like smiles with like the mouth

1318
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:19,320
closed and like, oh perfect. And then she decides, Okay,

1319
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,400
shit's going real bad. She gets back, she calls for

1320
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,840
a substance because she thinks that, okay, maybe using this

1321
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,920
is the same way Elizabeth was on the Rocks. Got

1322
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,440
a younger version, better version, this will do for me.

1323
00:56:32,599 --> 00:56:35,119
But as I love the cut when she puts the

1324
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,960
needle in and she hits it to go in, they

1325
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,800
flash back to the beginning of the movie and they go,

1326
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,920
you know, substance can only be used once, so it's

1327
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,360
like that thing. She kind of forgot about it. And

1328
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,320
then Sue wakes up as Elizabeth or as what I

1329
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,599
can't remember what they call. They have this, uh the names,

1330
00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:56,920
and it's like, yeah, and there's something like that, but

1331
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,519
she wakes up in just.

1332
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: A monstrol monstromo Elizisu or something.

1333
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, And she just

1334
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:10,159
wakes up with she's a big blob. She has I

1335
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,960
won't say hundreds dozens of different body parts, teeth. Demimore's

1336
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:17,920
face is on her shoulder, and there's so many shots

1337
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,599
in this movie they just go like it's just her

1338
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:23,199
looking up in the most uncomfortable way. I love at

1339
00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:24,840
the end of the movie when she's on the stage

1340
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,559
and they're like, is that so and so, and then

1341
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:28,840
we're just like it's me, Like no one can see

1342
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,519
her because she's on the back, but yeah, she's just

1343
00:57:30,599 --> 00:57:33,440
this grotesque monster. And I'm excited to talk about this,

1344
00:57:33,559 --> 00:57:36,840
But for me, I was just there's so many times where, like, Krickly,

1345
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,440
you made a good comparison with malign I just feel

1346
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,199
like we talked about movies where it's like, oh, wouldn't

1347
00:57:40,199 --> 00:57:42,360
that be so cool if they like they did it

1348
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,599
or they went that far, but they never do. They're like, well,

1349
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:46,840
we still gonna like we can't do that. We can't

1350
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,679
have her on the stage like bleeding on everybody, Like

1351
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:51,719
that's gonna be too much for me. What I love

1352
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,599
about this third act and Bean, we'll talk about it,

1353
00:57:53,679 --> 00:57:55,000
be some things about them, but I just love that

1354
00:57:55,039 --> 00:57:56,920
they just fucking go for it, Like, Yeah, we're gonna

1355
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,000
make her a monster and she's gonna go this New

1356
00:57:59,079 --> 00:58:02,719
Year's Show. You're gonna get these naked dancers covered in blood.

1357
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,960
Like again there's a shot of just like a close

1358
00:58:05,039 --> 00:58:06,840
up of a woman's very nice dairy air and then

1359
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,079
just like blood hits it. Like they're always doing these

1360
00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:13,800
juxpositions and putting the like Elizabeth mask on. I love everything.

1361
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,199
I just love that they they just went for it,

1362
00:58:16,239 --> 00:58:18,519
and they, like, for me, over delivered on what this

1363
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:21,000
thing was gonna look like. And Marco Quality is in

1364
00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:22,800
that suit the whole time, so shut out to her

1365
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,360
because that's a nice Yeah, that's fantastic. But uh yeah,

1366
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,360
and I think in the trivia have the hours. But yeah,

1367
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,960
well let's talk about the third act.

1368
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:32,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll bring up some of my issues. So one,

1369
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,960
first of all was and this one we might we

1370
00:58:36,039 --> 00:58:38,880
might have debunked a little bit, was just because the

1371
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,159
way I was reading the movie was that they weren't

1372
00:58:41,199 --> 00:58:43,639
really sharing the same consciousness. And we've talked about how

1373
00:58:43,639 --> 00:58:45,480
they kind of are, and you guys gave some good

1374
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,679
examples of that, but for me, I was like, Okay,

1375
00:58:47,719 --> 00:58:51,920
if Quality knows how little they actually share of a mind,

1376
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,480
like why would she want this for herself? Why would

1377
00:58:55,559 --> 00:58:57,639
she want to go into this form where she's not

1378
00:58:57,679 --> 00:58:59,920
gonna be able to experience what like this good side is.

1379
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,239
And so obviously, as we've talked about, like maybe there

1380
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,639
is a little bit more there, but I think that's

1381
00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:05,920
on the interpretive side. I guess maybe that is more

1382
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,159
evidence that they do share more than it really seemed

1383
00:59:09,199 --> 00:59:12,440
like or else like why would she do that because

1384
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,679
she just sees like how shitty it is for the

1385
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,840
host the matrix. Yeah, like you really get the short

1386
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,840
end of the stick there. There's really like very little

1387
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,800
benefit unless you have like I don't know, but even

1388
00:59:23,079 --> 00:59:24,880
it's like you're having like the get Out experience where

1389
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,760
you're just like a mind inside of someone's head, like

1390
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,000
watching from like a little screen, it's not really the same.

1391
00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:31,800
So it seems like kind of a weird choice. There

1392
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,519
was also like, you know, this movie is very over

1393
00:59:33,519 --> 00:59:35,079
the top, but I was just kind of weird aout

1394
00:59:35,079 --> 00:59:37,719
by some of the logistics of the sequence where she's

1395
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,480
like at the studio and then she like runs home,

1396
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:44,519
which seemingly takes like two minutes, and then she does

1397
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:46,559
all this stuff and then she goes back to the studio.

1398
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:49,119
But then like also this New Year's thing is also

1399
00:59:49,199 --> 00:59:51,320
at the same studio where she works, which is also

1400
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,679
like two minutes from her house. Like, the whole logistics

1401
00:59:53,679 --> 00:59:56,039
of it was just really off to me, which seems

1402
00:59:56,119 --> 00:59:57,880
kind of nitpicky, but it was just kind of it

1403
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,840
was just kind of odd. Thing is in no world

1404
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,760
do I feel like there should be any juice left

1405
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,199
in in that vial? Maybe the only and now if

1406
01:00:08,199 --> 01:00:10,000
I'm trying to haycant like what would be the reason.

1407
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,440
Maybe good because the people doing this like want to

1408
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,599
see what some monster could be like down the road,

1409
01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:17,000
But it doesn't really seem like that is the case

1410
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:18,920
from the company. So it just seems weird that there

1411
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,480
would be like extra juice in the vial Like this,

1412
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,159
the whole thing seems so precise and perfect down to

1413
01:00:24,239 --> 01:00:26,800
like you have to transform on the minute or else

1414
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,320
your fingers are gonna start to rot off. So the

1415
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,000
fact that the vile would have like a little extra

1416
01:00:32,119 --> 01:00:35,800
sauce in it at the bottom seems kind of unrealistic

1417
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,679
for me. And I don't know what I think. The

1418
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:43,639
other thing, too, is like once the final Monstromo transformation happens,

1419
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,480
I think all that is great. That is like perfect

1420
01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:49,320
and disgusting and like a great way to end it.

1421
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,599
But then I kind of feel like after we leave

1422
01:00:51,639 --> 01:00:56,159
that bathroom, everything after that didn't really add to the

1423
01:00:56,199 --> 01:00:59,639
story or like the metaphors that we're dealing with this movie.

1424
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:03,320
It was just like kind of grotesque, but also like

1425
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,320
wasn't really that interesting for me. So I think that's

1426
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,000
where it kind of lost me a little bit. Like

1427
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:10,920
I felt like after the bathroom, it kind of felt like,

1428
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:12,960
how do we end this movie? And the kind of

1429
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,840
came up with something, but I kind of wish it

1430
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,039
went another direction. I don't know what that would have been.

1431
01:01:17,039 --> 01:01:18,440
Like I think if she had just dropped dead in

1432
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,679
the bathroom at that point, I would have been unsatisfactory,

1433
01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:22,920
But I think I wanted it to go somewhere else.

1434
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,360
I didn't really love that stuff, with the exception of

1435
01:01:25,519 --> 01:01:28,880
the final Little Spider version of her landing on the star,

1436
01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:31,960
like that's a really nice ending there, but this stuff

1437
01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:34,320
up to that point wasn't really working for me as well.

1438
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I'm pretty close to you here, Dylan.

1439
01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:43,400
On the third act, I respected the decision to just

1440
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,199
really go off the ball, off the walls, balls all,

1441
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:52,039
whatever the hell they're doing. To me, it just felt

1442
01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:54,920
like I don't know, this movie is pretty long already,

1443
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,320
and I felt like it was really dragging on, especially

1444
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,639
at the end, like when she does put on the

1445
01:01:59,679 --> 01:02:02,199
mask and like COEs Ad dresses everyone. I'm like, I

1446
01:02:02,199 --> 01:02:04,639
didn't need to see this. And like, like you mentioned,

1447
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,280
like I did really like the star scene, I didn't

1448
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,239
like it so much returning to it and just having

1449
01:02:10,239 --> 01:02:12,519
this blob thing crawling on the star.

1450
01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:15,199
Speaker 3: It's another thing of like the dimension, like the scale

1451
01:02:15,239 --> 01:02:17,119
of everything. It's like, oh, also that star is within

1452
01:02:17,239 --> 01:02:20,320
like a two minute, like anything else that happens in

1453
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:20,719
this movie.

1454
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:22,679
Speaker 1: Okay, she being crawling for a long time. We just

1455
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:24,920
cut there, you know, and at least the studio you

1456
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,760
could believe, because like that billboards right there today, if

1457
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,440
she was working there to day, she could just had

1458
01:02:29,559 --> 01:02:32,320
like a hotel, like a hotel, but an apartment by

1459
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:33,119
the lot, right.

1460
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:36,079
Speaker 6: I lived in there for all, you know, lived in there.

1461
01:02:36,159 --> 01:02:39,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh yeah, I I I just felt like

1462
01:02:39,639 --> 01:02:42,480
it really was getting dragged on a little bit. And

1463
01:02:42,599 --> 01:02:45,559
uh because I was I also wasn't just loving what

1464
01:02:45,639 --> 01:02:47,440
I was seeing it if it made it seem that

1465
01:02:47,559 --> 01:02:51,400
much longer, And I don't know, like I I also

1466
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,280
agree with you saying that like once we got to

1467
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,039
that point, it didn't really seem like we had a

1468
01:02:57,039 --> 01:03:00,480
lot of like powerful messaging, you know, for like just

1469
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,679
just confidence with yourself. It was just like, no, we're

1470
01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:05,519
just gonna end the movie a very sci fi crazy way.

1471
01:03:05,559 --> 01:03:09,920
And I don't know, I liked some aspects of it,

1472
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,719
like yeah, when when she's kicking Demi Moore like across

1473
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,880
the room and it just feels like when Gabriel comes

1474
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,679
out like in Malignant, and it's just you get that

1475
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,119
high octane music, like it felt like that level of

1476
01:03:22,159 --> 01:03:25,039
a scene. But again, like it it felt like I

1477
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:27,119
still had like thirty five minutes more to go in

1478
01:03:27,159 --> 01:03:30,119
the movie after that, and I just wasn't a super

1479
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:32,119
big fan of it. But I don't really know what

1480
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:35,559
I would change either, because I just I think it's

1481
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,960
a problem I can't really provide a solution to.

1482
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 6: It's just maybe not my genre of film.

1483
01:03:40,159 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, the bu Taylor even even spoken

1484
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:47,159
about the ending here.

1485
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, the ending, like I said before, totally a left

1486
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:56,760
turn curveball. I was not expecting the like monstro beast

1487
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,400
creature that was a combination of the two. I really

1488
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,519
just didn't know, the only thing I was kind of

1489
01:04:02,519 --> 01:04:05,480
anticipating at this point was that, Okay, Sue is going

1490
01:04:05,559 --> 01:04:08,000
to get up on stage and it's not gonna go good.

1491
01:04:08,039 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 7: She's gonna start.

1492
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,039
Speaker 4: Falling part out there, or I thought that she was

1493
01:04:11,079 --> 01:04:13,519
gonna get terminated and Moore's character was going to be

1494
01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:15,719
the one to go out there looking like the old hag.

1495
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 5: So that's what I thought.

1496
01:04:18,079 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 4: But I did not anticipate Sue taking some more of

1497
01:04:21,519 --> 01:04:28,239
this juice and producing a weird creature thing. And it's

1498
01:04:28,719 --> 01:04:30,599
I kind of this is gonna sound mean, but I

1499
01:04:30,679 --> 01:04:32,599
kind of want to get a gift of it. Just

1500
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,440
uses like my face when because there's a quick pan,

1501
01:04:35,559 --> 01:04:37,679
it's like the corner of the mirror reflection when you

1502
01:04:37,719 --> 01:04:41,280
see the monstro like look at the mirror. It's like, ah,

1503
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,760
the facial expression really just cracks me up. But yeah,

1504
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:50,360
just absolutely grotesque with like shedding like boobs out of

1505
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:55,119
like these protrusions and it just dragging shit like it's

1506
01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:01,119
so fucking gross, and it's just it's gross, gross gross.

1507
01:05:01,239 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 3: The dress still fit.

1508
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 5: Though the dress still fit, I was booming.

1509
01:05:06,159 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 4: I was very confused when she walks the door and

1510
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,000
everyone's cheering for her, I'm like, man, what.

1511
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,239
Speaker 7: The fuck's wrong with these people?

1512
01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 4: But they that was just another dream sequence. The paper

1513
01:05:15,079 --> 01:05:19,639
mask attached to her face was cracked me up. But yeah,

1514
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,400
just the one bread flag though, Like she knocks and

1515
01:05:23,639 --> 01:05:25,239
she scans the key card on the door and the

1516
01:05:25,239 --> 01:05:28,239
guard's like, oh, we're looking ever for you. You better

1517
01:05:28,239 --> 01:05:29,800
get out there, and then he leaves. It's like, man,

1518
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,360
what a terrible security guard.

1519
01:05:31,519 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 7: Jesus.

1520
01:05:33,719 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 4: But it would be interesting to know more about what

1521
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,920
the backstory is with this company. Has this happened frequently?

1522
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,400
Was that guy that initially got her on the substance?

1523
01:05:43,519 --> 01:05:47,079
Was he some kind of a recruiter who had that,

1524
01:05:47,199 --> 01:05:50,639
Like he had the USB sticks, so obviously he he

1525
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,559
finds people because he said, like he's feeling her spine,

1526
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:54,800
he knows what he's looking for.

1527
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,199
Speaker 7: So is he a recruiter? What's going on there?

1528
01:05:58,679 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 4: But I'd like to know a little bit more beout

1529
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,199
because how many instances does this happen? The guy was

1530
01:06:03,239 --> 01:06:06,000
obviously very stoic whenever they would call on the phone,

1531
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,480
I'm five oh three, I need help, And I think

1532
01:06:09,519 --> 01:06:12,400
that that just goes to show, Okay, that they've probably

1533
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,760
had this happen before. They know the results, they know

1534
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,280
what's going to go wrong. That's why they have these rules.

1535
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,280
But I would love to have a little bit more

1536
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,639
expansion on all of that, because, yeah, this thing is

1537
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,960
just brutal, and that's all over public TV. So as

1538
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,239
far as I'm concerned, if they're a black market, very

1539
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:34,239
hush hush and secret and their client just exploded on

1540
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,920
TV like this, like the leaving the DNA everywhere like

1541
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,719
that would be very bad for business.

1542
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,119
Speaker 3: So the mortician's going to have be in a field

1543
01:06:42,199 --> 01:06:44,920
day doing the autopsy on that corpse and figuring out

1544
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:45,760
what the heck's in there.

1545
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I love that moment where the guy

1546
01:06:50,159 --> 01:06:52,960
takes like the microphone stand and beheads her. But then yeah,

1547
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,519
she just grows into the head back with another extra boob.

1548
01:06:56,519 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I know you mentioned the teeth. I can

1549
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,760
remember if you mentioned the ear coming off the bathroom too.

1550
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,199
That was disgusting.

1551
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's in there covering up and they just

1552
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,800
have like a pelvis, like, hey, how's it going. Like

1553
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,480
he's like trying to flirt with her or something, and

1554
01:07:09,519 --> 01:07:11,760
like and she doesn't talk to me. He's like, oh yeah, whatever,

1555
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,280
like like he's just like put off that she won't

1556
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,000
talk to him, and it's just like that again, I

1557
01:07:17,079 --> 01:07:19,960
constant theme of stuff happening, even for me at the

1558
01:07:20,039 --> 01:07:23,400
end where it's like this woman's clearly distraught and this

1559
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,800
guy like, hey, how's it going? Look like that? That

1560
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,880
for me is where some theme stuff picked up as

1561
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,119
far as like even in this woman's possible worst moment,

1562
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,239
this guy's hitting on her because like, oh, she's kind

1563
01:07:33,239 --> 01:07:35,360
of good looking, and then he's like kind of annoyed

1564
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,239
when she won't say anything back to him, so then

1565
01:07:37,239 --> 01:07:43,000
he walks away, and yeah, yeah, anything else? I have

1566
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:45,719
some trivia for you know, as much trivia as you

1567
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,599
can for a current year movie. But I do have some.

1568
01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:53,760
But is there anything else to shout out?

1569
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:55,079
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

1570
01:07:58,519 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 4: You already commented. I'm just gonna say it again. When

1571
01:08:01,639 --> 01:08:05,760
she's cooking in the kitchen like that's crazy, crazy, crazy, Kirkling.

1572
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,360
You you mentioned it too, and she's like in the bathroom,

1573
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:09,360
doesn't go on that date.

1574
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 5: She just pulling her makeup off.

1575
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 4: DeBie Moore is just delivering it as a fantastic actress

1576
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:18,720
in these scenes. It's truly remarkable. The guy though that

1577
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,800
she was going to go on that date with I

1578
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:26,600
thought he was kind of a he was interesting character thus.

1579
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 7: Ship in the Mud and all that he was. He

1580
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:30,560
was very suss.

1581
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,279
Speaker 4: But I like the idea that you know, you have

1582
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:35,359
to take care of your old self too, you know,

1583
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,239
you can't just give up and just experience this younger

1584
01:08:39,319 --> 01:08:40,359
version so.

1585
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:43,279
Speaker 1: Well, and that's what the guy was trying in the

1586
01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:46,159
bath and not the bathroom in the restaurant, was like, oh,

1587
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,800
the more you give to it, the more you feel alone,

1588
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,359
and the more it takes from you. And it's like

1589
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:54,159
because she's living this glamorous life and it's like, oh,

1590
01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:55,560
well now I'm just going to stay at home. It's like,

1591
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,239
you don't have to do that. She could have kept

1592
01:08:57,279 --> 01:08:59,439
going on with her life doing other things, but no,

1593
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,640
she had to keep going the road. You know, even

1594
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,359
then he could have had all the substance, could have

1595
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:04,680
just kept doing that she.

1596
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 6: Started to take from you.

1597
01:09:06,119 --> 01:09:11,279
Speaker 2: Yet like he just gets like so just so enraged

1598
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:12,319
in that moment.

1599
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:13,399
Speaker 6: It just seems so much more intent.

1600
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 4: Which it's interesting too and with respect because that old guy,

1601
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:22,239
his old self never met Demi Moore, so it would

1602
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:24,359
have just been the young version of him that met her.

1603
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:27,359
But then the older self was familiar and like had

1604
01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:31,279
that memory of her and recruiting her. So again, just

1605
01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:35,199
how the consciousness works between the two I guess.

1606
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,359
Speaker 1: Okay, some trivia here. Ray Liota was cast in the

1607
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:41,920
film twenty twenty two, but he died in May that

1608
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,399
year before filming could start, so dens Quay replaced him,

1609
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,119
and there is some thank you notes in there. So yeah,

1610
01:09:46,199 --> 01:09:48,479
Ridgree was Rayle Liota, which still would have been good,

1611
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,760
but quite a different performance that he would have been.

1612
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,359
He would have been able to deliver on some of

1613
01:09:54,399 --> 01:09:56,960
these isms. And I'm excited because next week the next

1614
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:01,199
wretch will be talking about Israeliota in Goodfellows. We'll circle

1615
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:04,399
back to Realiota because a very talented actor that underrated

1616
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:08,439
my opinion. But he already said this that our requality

1617
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,680
revealed that she had prosthetic boobs designed by French makeup artists.

1618
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,640
Quality stated, unfortunately, there's no magic boob potion, so we

1619
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,479
glue those things on, found a credible proceect team to

1620
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,039
endow me with the rock with the rack of a lifetime,

1621
01:10:20,319 --> 01:10:23,159
just not my lifetime. I love that quote, it's such

1622
01:10:23,159 --> 01:10:26,279
a good one. And again her stock for me just

1623
01:10:26,359 --> 01:10:29,079
keeps going up and up. But Damy Warwis said she

1624
01:10:29,119 --> 01:10:31,159
was nervous but filming a full nude scene, which yeah,

1625
01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:33,880
she kudos to her at sixty one, and felt very vulnerable.

1626
01:10:34,159 --> 01:10:37,640
She credited Margaret Margo whichever we go, Well, I'll just

1627
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,279
say quality, who was twenty ninth the time filming, portrayed

1628
01:10:40,279 --> 01:10:41,720
a young version of her. Yeah. Yeah, we all know

1629
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,239
that she was naked the whole time, so it felt

1630
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:45,760
like she was a great partner I have. I felt

1631
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,239
very safe. We obviously are quite close. We were naked,

1632
01:10:48,359 --> 01:10:50,880
so there's lots of levity moments on set, so yeah,

1633
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,880
and you know, and again female director too, so hopefully

1634
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,640
that helps them. But yeah, imagine there's just a lot

1635
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,319
of days, especially in those bathroom just them being naked,

1636
01:10:59,359 --> 01:11:01,039
hopefully with a very closed set.

1637
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 2: But seems cold, you know. I feel like the probably

1638
01:11:05,039 --> 01:11:07,199
and stuff like typically and like the set.

1639
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 3: Even at one point she's like her face is just

1640
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,000
rubbing against the floor. And I hope they gave that

1641
01:11:13,039 --> 01:11:15,399
a good clean, Like this isn't an actual bathroom, but

1642
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,000
I hope they gave it a good clean. But that that, yeah,

1643
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,239
that's a good point. It was funny when I was

1644
01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:22,239
watching that scene, I was like, for a moment, I

1645
01:11:22,319 --> 01:11:24,439
was taken out of him, Like, man, that must be

1646
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,079
awkward to be an actor in that situation. But I'm

1647
01:11:27,079 --> 01:11:30,720
sure they kind of bonded pretty quickly. And then like,

1648
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,319
it's why I almost wanted more of them, like both

1649
01:11:34,359 --> 01:11:36,960
of them being conscious at the same time and actually

1650
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,359
acting rather than just fighting each other, just to get

1651
01:11:39,359 --> 01:11:40,720
a little bit more. I don't know that's I think

1652
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,560
that's kind of a different movie or a different take

1653
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,960
on the concept, but just because I wanted to see

1654
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,640
them kind of play off each other a bit more,

1655
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,439
but didn't get that opportunity obviously.

1656
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and at least when you're reading the script, it's

1657
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,119
a role that you know, like they're gonna be naked

1658
01:11:53,119 --> 01:11:55,039
lots right, Like there might be a script again says

1659
01:11:55,039 --> 01:11:57,600
like oh, sex scene, but like we've seen sex scenes

1660
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,359
before that are PG PG thirteen.

1661
01:12:00,159 --> 01:12:03,359
Speaker 3: I was like, before you read this, just be warned. Yeah,

1662
01:12:03,399 --> 01:12:05,119
trigger warning, this is what you're gonna have to do.

1663
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,279
Speaker 1: In so interviews, Demi Moore said that in reading the script,

1664
01:12:08,279 --> 01:12:10,479
the movie reminded her of the script of Ghosts because

1665
01:12:11,359 --> 01:12:14,039
the chance that it could be amazing or disaster was

1666
01:12:14,079 --> 01:12:16,119
the same that was crucial for to accept the role.

1667
01:12:16,279 --> 01:12:18,479
So which I like hearing that she read that and said, oh,

1668
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,640
this could be a which I definitely could see you

1669
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,239
reading this script being like this could be a fucking

1670
01:12:24,359 --> 01:12:27,600
like Razzy like Quale, like this could be and again

1671
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,520
like it's like it's being talked about for the Globes

1672
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:34,159
and oscars and stuff. I'd love Demi to squeeze. I mean,

1673
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:36,159
I'd be fighting for both of them come like January,

1674
01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:38,239
but I'd love Demi to squeeze them in there. I

1675
01:12:38,279 --> 01:12:40,920
don't globes. It's going comedy, which it works, but I

1676
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,000
could see reading that script and being like, oh, yeah,

1677
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,640
I don't know about this. This this could be a

1678
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,039
real disaster.

1679
01:12:47,279 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 2: But it must be so challenging too, because like they

1680
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,520
have no idea what the visuals are gonna look like,

1681
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,239
exact sound design and just just like all of the

1682
01:12:54,279 --> 01:12:56,720
factors that really make this a special movie, Like you

1683
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,520
you've you know, I guess you've been doing it a

1684
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,720
long time. You can you're able to identify some of

1685
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:02,680
those things out of the script.

1686
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,560
Speaker 1: Plus do you imagine you got to go back and

1687
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,239
watch director's work too, of like because she's somebody that

1688
01:13:07,359 --> 01:13:09,399
this is like her biggest film. I think she'd done

1689
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,760
weather film before, but then like a lot of shorts

1690
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,960
and I think she's uh in her mid fortiest, but

1691
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,600
she's just been plugging away doing stuff like you know, shorts,

1692
01:13:18,039 --> 01:13:19,600
all the type of stuff, schooling and everything.

1693
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, which is it's great brought up for some reason.

1694
01:13:25,239 --> 01:13:27,279
Speaker 1: You gotta watch. You gotta give it another chance, Kirk,

1695
01:13:27,359 --> 01:13:30,279
and you gave up on it. It's death episode already,

1696
01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:35,439
know that death episode. Man, you got to get there. Yeah,

1697
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,800
exactly season two before that, Demi Moore stated the full

1698
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,680
mirror sequence. She did at least fifteen takes for each scene,

1699
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,239
and then they her face was ross the whole roub

1700
01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:45,039
and everything like that.

1701
01:13:45,039 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was like that was almost unsettling, just

1702
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,960
how much she was. I thought you'd like poke an

1703
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:51,760
eye out kind of thing.

1704
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys will see this in like a couple

1705
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,680
of years now on Bloopers Real. But at one point

1706
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,479
the way, Demi Moore is like hitting yourself like that.

1707
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:03,279
So Taire gets fired up to act. So just wait,

1708
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,600
I'll do a side by side one time when he's

1709
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:06,279
trying not to last.

1710
01:14:06,319 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 3: He does that until his collar bone collar Bones started

1711
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,239
just throbbing and as.

1712
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,520
Speaker 1: He's good to go, let's see. Universal Pictures was originally

1713
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,800
tached to distribute the film though the deal with the

1714
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,319
film production or through the deal the working title the

1715
01:14:18,319 --> 01:14:20,960
film production working title. At some point during the making

1716
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,640
the film, they end up stepping away from the project.

1717
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,239
According to Hollywood reporting multiple sources of the Universe was

1718
01:14:25,279 --> 01:14:29,199
worried about the prospect of releasing the film. Movie ended

1719
01:14:29,279 --> 01:14:31,680
up acquiring World Whites for the film shortly premiere at

1720
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,920
Cans Festival. It's their biggest one. It won Best Screenplay

1721
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,920
it can. So that's like a that's a big deal

1722
01:14:37,039 --> 01:14:40,239
to win that it can. So. Demi Moore was originally

1723
01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:43,560
not the director's first pick. During a medium Paris, Moore

1724
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:48,880
gave Fargeat a copy of her twenty nineteen memoir, which

1725
01:14:49,079 --> 01:14:51,439
was which convinced to Casser due to the exception of

1726
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,520
a relationship with her body and in the peak years

1727
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,920
of her film career. So I've never read Demi Moore's

1728
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,560
the memoir, like I like Demi Wore, but I haven't

1729
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,039
got my way. But I guess it hits on a

1730
01:15:01,039 --> 01:15:03,479
lot of those type of themes in this movie. So

1731
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,720
what a way to get a role is give your

1732
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,039
autobiography to someone like, oh, sure, I'll do that.

1733
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,159
Speaker 3: Is there any info about like other people who were.

1734
01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: No, not yet. I bet that'll come out maybe more

1735
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,000
down the line. But and I guarantee there wasn't like

1736
01:15:17,359 --> 01:15:19,199
too many people. It could have even been to the

1737
01:15:19,199 --> 01:15:22,039
point where this script was being shot around, so the

1738
01:15:22,039 --> 01:15:25,720
director maybe had ideas, but like Demi Moore or and

1739
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,760
agent got the script and like, hey, you should talk

1740
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,199
to her before. There's a chance that she had a list,

1741
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:32,119
but they didn't even go talk to anybody. And then

1742
01:15:32,359 --> 01:15:34,640
Moore does maybe the like you know, the swoop in

1743
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,279
there at the book who knows? But yeah, there was

1744
01:15:36,279 --> 01:15:37,199
no other names in there.

1745
01:15:37,279 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 3: So that's the book under her door.

1746
01:15:40,279 --> 01:15:46,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just what you are the book. But no,

1747
01:15:46,279 --> 01:15:49,199
she's and obviously she's cited at Dan Cohenbriggs to Fly

1748
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,760
as The influence on this film both movies and clothes

1749
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,520
include the moment the protagons moving their fingernail of a

1750
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,720
decaying finger. There, you're you gotta be a fan the Fly, right,

1751
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,800
Jeff Goldblum or have you never seen that?

1752
01:16:00,079 --> 01:16:01,119
Speaker 7: I don't think I've ever seen it.

1753
01:16:01,119 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 1: It's like a Nicolas Cage face off situation one day.

1754
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,039
That's it's on Disney Plus. But maybe just wait till

1755
01:16:06,039 --> 01:16:08,760
a retro somebody, because that's uh, that's it. That's very

1756
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,680
much not like this doesn't deal with the same themes,

1757
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,520
but as far as grotesque stuff, Jeff Golden turning into

1758
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,920
a fly for two hours, it's a fucking disgusting movie,

1759
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:21,479
but it's great stuff. Uh. And finally, during tiff, Denymore

1760
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,319
said that her prosts took six to nine hours to

1761
01:16:24,359 --> 01:16:26,880
apply and then they could only be on there for

1762
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,159
a few hours. I don't know what that means. I'm

1763
01:16:30,199 --> 01:16:32,279
sure it's just like it just rubs and gets really hot.

1764
01:16:32,319 --> 01:16:36,079
But you gotta love that, like permanently listen.

1765
01:16:37,319 --> 01:16:39,079
Speaker 6: It's like a big type story.

1766
01:16:39,279 --> 01:16:41,159
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but yeah, I just think about that, like

1767
01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:43,479
you get it's like a weather situation where takes six

1768
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,399
and nine hours get the makeup on, and that's probably okay,

1769
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,399
we got three hours ago. So it's like you're doing

1770
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:51,720
all that work for the York. Yeah, So this was

1771
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,600
one of the one of the reasons behind this. The

1772
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,920
short working schedule was also because prosthetics were delicate and

1773
01:16:57,039 --> 01:17:00,439
were would only last a limit amount of time or take,

1774
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,359
So that's the other thing that you'd be doing a take.

1775
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,520
This does falling off, and then you got like, re

1776
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:06,560
go do it.

1777
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, the hag kind of looks a little bit

1778
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,880
like the like when Johnny Knoxville in Jackass, like does

1779
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:18,079
the Grandma the grandma stuff, and I feel like she's

1780
01:17:18,119 --> 01:17:20,600
always he always got body parts hanging out when he's

1781
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:20,960
doing that.

1782
01:17:21,399 --> 01:17:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, she kind of remind me that the

1783
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,000
cave trolls. I don't know the cave trolls, but from

1784
01:17:27,279 --> 01:17:29,079
the Hobbit, the ones that get turned to the stone

1785
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,319
because they're very saggy and stuff like that. And then

1786
01:17:32,319 --> 01:17:33,920
she kind of has the face of Gallum like at

1787
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,720
that part in the in between, it's very Gollum like.

1788
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 2: But she like wakes up after the three months and

1789
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:40,840
looks in the mirror, it's just.

1790
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:45,199
Speaker 6: Like skin saggy boots. It's just like her like horror

1791
01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:45,680
that she's.

1792
01:17:46,279 --> 01:17:49,079
Speaker 1: Just a screech, you know, just a screech. And I

1793
01:17:49,119 --> 01:17:49,359
think my.

1794
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,359
Speaker 7: Friend's like, what, what's who is that?

1795
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:53,239
Speaker 6: Get the fuck?

1796
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 3: And he leaves immediately. He's like, I don't care what

1797
01:17:58,760 --> 01:17:59,479
happened to my question?

1798
01:18:00,399 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 1: No, gotta get out of there. But Yeah. My last

1799
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,439
point in the notes I forgot was just I love

1800
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,159
that whatever that sound I played beginning with the substans

1801
01:18:07,239 --> 01:18:11,239
that like that that loud just punk is sort of

1802
01:18:11,239 --> 01:18:14,720
feel is a good time. The love the sound. Editing

1803
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,960
this movie, but Tearfield find thoughts.

1804
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 4: And writing, Yes, I am going to say that while

1805
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,359
I don't believe I will be revisiting this movie anytime soon,

1806
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,840
sitting on it, stewing on it and thinking about it

1807
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:33,359
does help me realize that this movie has a very

1808
01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:36,479
very good kind of theme to it that I think

1809
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:42,119
it's it's it really just doesn't sugarcoat how different parts

1810
01:18:42,119 --> 01:18:44,439
of society can can really be, and it's it's really

1811
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:48,760
shitty where you can have pathetic men treating you like

1812
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,680
and objectifying you, and you have that just transferring into

1813
01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:56,840
this belief that you are nothing even though you're.

1814
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 5: Like sixty years old.

1815
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,399
Speaker 4: And Demi Moore looks out the outstanding and she still

1816
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,800
don't feels that she's nothing, like she's nothing in comparison,

1817
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,000
seeing all the ads like oh, finding the new Elizabeth

1818
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,279
Sparkles and whatnot is just like driving her up a wall.

1819
01:19:11,319 --> 01:19:13,920
And so I think that there is lots of themes

1820
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:18,000
in here that you can really latch onto and take

1821
01:19:18,039 --> 01:19:21,159
with you and just uses a reminder because yeah, just

1822
01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:24,920
that creature we get at the end, it's just uh yeah,

1823
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:26,880
my goodness, like things could always be a lot worse

1824
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:28,760
and thank god that we don't have anything like that.

1825
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 1: Because yeah, and it's even Algret, like we've talked about this.

1826
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:33,720
We're not gonna name it, but there's certain celebrities it's

1827
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,720
just like they go when they get that work done

1828
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,479
and the next time you see me, just go, man,

1829
01:19:39,079 --> 01:19:40,760
you just should have kept an agent, because it's like

1830
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,000
they got the cat face or their faces a mover.

1831
01:19:43,079 --> 01:19:45,079
There's something going. It's just like, and I've said that,

1832
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,520
not that she's like playing, but I'm like, please, like,

1833
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,199
don't do any of that type of stuff because I

1834
01:19:49,279 --> 01:19:51,199
see some of these people it's just like you look

1835
01:19:51,279 --> 01:19:54,239
at them versus this age naturally, it's like some sometimes

1836
01:19:54,279 --> 01:19:57,680
that chasing the dragon of youth can put you down.

1837
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,359
This to me is like the you know, obviously the

1838
01:19:59,399 --> 01:20:01,359
extreme out where you're like you turn to a big monster.

1839
01:20:01,399 --> 01:20:03,239
But people, it's like, I don't you don't need to

1840
01:20:03,239 --> 01:20:06,079
be looking like a plastic doll on your way out

1841
01:20:06,079 --> 01:20:08,239
the door, like we're all gonna get old. It's okay,

1842
01:20:08,319 --> 01:20:11,079
that's you're supposed to earn those wrinkles and earn the

1843
01:20:11,119 --> 01:20:13,279
gray marks, you know, which you know, I think the

1844
01:20:13,319 --> 01:20:14,720
movie does a good job of that as well.

1845
01:20:15,079 --> 01:20:18,079
Speaker 4: No, that's absolutely right, as you said it, We're all

1846
01:20:18,159 --> 01:20:22,119
gonna get old and whatnot. So it's uh, yeah, it's

1847
01:20:22,159 --> 01:20:24,439
just some people can really just get caught up and

1848
01:20:25,199 --> 01:20:29,159
that have that existential crisis, the midlife crisis, just wanted

1849
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:32,640
to be young and relive all those kind of glory days.

1850
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,920
And it's just I think it also detracts too, because

1851
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:39,359
it's getting old. People definitely get afraid of getting old.

1852
01:20:39,359 --> 01:20:41,279
But there's definitely a certain kind of like a lure

1853
01:20:41,359 --> 01:20:44,199
to getting old too, right with all your experiences and

1854
01:20:44,199 --> 01:20:45,680
everything when you get to that stage. And I think

1855
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:49,520
that's something with DeBie Moore's character, that she had pursued

1856
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,720
this heavy career in this film, and she could have

1857
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,399
now an opportunity to actually have time for herself and

1858
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,119
you know, meet this guy and actually build something for herself.

1859
01:20:59,119 --> 01:21:00,680
But she chose not to do that. She chose to

1860
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,039
live in the past and to be in that kind

1861
01:21:03,079 --> 01:21:07,840
of that mindset that society has injected into into her.

1862
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:09,680
So yeah, I think there's a lot of themes that

1863
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,800
are really really powerful in this movie. Like I said,

1864
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,199
probably not gonna revisit it, but I'm gonna go. I'm

1865
01:21:14,199 --> 01:21:17,279
gonna I would have been much lower yesterday, but I'm

1866
01:21:17,319 --> 01:21:21,079
thinking I'm gonna go a probably a four, not a

1867
01:21:21,079 --> 01:21:24,279
four out of five. Sorry, ah, seven point five out

1868
01:21:24,279 --> 01:21:25,399
of ten. I was thinking about the five.

1869
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,079
Speaker 1: I'm much higher on it today.

1870
01:21:29,319 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to seven point five out of.

1871
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:36,239
Speaker 1: It before my god, mister Moss.

1872
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, this this was fun discussion because I do feel

1873
01:21:40,399 --> 01:21:43,199
like some of my not necessarily issues they were they

1874
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:45,600
were issues ish, but I really just needed to hash

1875
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:47,319
them out with you guys and figure out some of it.

1876
01:21:47,359 --> 01:21:48,920
And it is. It is when I feel like I

1877
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,159
do need to rewatch at some point to really figure

1878
01:21:51,159 --> 01:21:54,359
out how I feel about some of the rules and continuity,

1879
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:55,840
Like does all of it make sense?

1880
01:21:56,279 --> 01:21:57,119
Speaker 5: But this movie is not.

1881
01:21:57,199 --> 01:21:59,239
Speaker 3: Very fun to watch, so I'm not gonna do that

1882
01:21:59,359 --> 01:22:02,199
anytime soon at some point in the future. But yeah,

1883
01:22:02,319 --> 01:22:05,640
super duper well made. I've not really seen any more

1884
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,359
act like ever. I feel like i've I've when I

1885
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,159
was going through IMDb today, I'm like, yeah, Okay, she

1886
01:22:11,239 --> 01:22:15,279
was in this movie, she was in the whatever, Massive Talent.

1887
01:22:15,359 --> 01:22:17,239
I'm like, I don't even remember what she did in that.

1888
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 4: Like I I feel like I've seen I've recorded I's cash.

1889
01:22:22,399 --> 01:22:24,840
So when I when I went through IMDb, I'm like, Okay,

1890
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,560
I recognize some of these movies, but like, I don't

1891
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,840
think I've ever seen her in a starring or even

1892
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,840
like a supporting role in something, and so I was

1893
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:32,479
really impressed.

1894
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 3: I think she absolutely killed it and quality is just outstanding,

1895
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,600
even like this run she's had recently of not starring

1896
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,279
all of them, but like Sanctuary into like the the

1897
01:22:42,399 --> 01:22:45,359
Two like poor Things, and I haven't seen Kinds of

1898
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,680
Kindness yet, but she's in there. I was watching a

1899
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,439
little bit of Driveaway Dolls Gigs and my dad was

1900
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,439
watching it when I was in Kelowna, and like just

1901
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,119
gaining more appreciation for that movie on a second watch.

1902
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,960
Apparently she's in Happy Gilmore Too coming up. But I'm

1903
01:22:59,079 --> 01:23:00,840
very excited to see which she does in that because

1904
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,319
that's apparently.

1905
01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: Her the first movie. It's like her favorite movie. I'm sure.

1906
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 3: Adam Saydler was like, yeah, I pick one of the

1907
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:10,359
best up and cover actresses.

1908
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I had to look at I said, and

1909
01:23:12,039 --> 01:23:13,720
I'm like, what the fuck is her agent doing here?

1910
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,600
And then when I looked, I'm like, Okay, she like

1911
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:17,760
big fan this, but I was like, she's in all

1912
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,560
She's like assurd trajectory. It's like, I feel like Happy

1913
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:22,119
Gilmore two could be a different but it's like, no,

1914
01:23:23,239 --> 01:23:23,760
if you've be in the.

1915
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 3: Same family like EMMSTONI you know, she's like done so

1916
01:23:26,039 --> 01:23:28,199
many comedies and like she'll still go back and do

1917
01:23:28,359 --> 01:23:31,079
Zombieland too. You know, I feel like I really like

1918
01:23:31,159 --> 01:23:34,760
that quality. Is like I just when I like those movies.

1919
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,760
I just mentioned that run of movies, like even her

1920
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:38,520
role and Poor Things is a very funny one. She's

1921
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,720
such a minor character, but I love that she's in

1922
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,600
that movie and does that. She's just so versatile.

1923
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,319
Speaker 1: But to me, yeah, Sanctuary, and I didn't love the movie,

1924
01:23:46,399 --> 01:23:48,880
but you know, love Sanctuary. She's great in there.

1925
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 3: You know the movie that I've seen and talked about.

1926
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,159
Speaker 1: What you tell me you have you seen? I thought

1927
01:23:54,159 --> 01:23:56,119
you saw a Sanctuary. I thought we talked about some newscasts.

1928
01:23:56,199 --> 01:23:57,399
Ye do you shut?

1929
01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 3: Though I did?

1930
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:03,359
Speaker 1: My mind minds continue. I need some substances.

1931
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 3: You need to get your Yeah, I get your matrix

1932
01:24:06,119 --> 01:24:10,560
juice figured out over here? But yeah, where was I?

1933
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:11,039
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1934
01:24:11,159 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 3: Acting is really really great across the board. Uh, visuals outstanding,

1935
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,279
sound design is like some of the best I feel

1936
01:24:17,319 --> 01:24:20,159
like I've ever ever seen. Uh so, yeah, I'm gonna

1937
01:24:20,199 --> 01:24:22,079
drop a nine niner.

1938
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:22,279
Speaker 7: On this one.

1939
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:23,119
Speaker 3: Nine ten.

1940
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,279
Speaker 1: I would have put you, uh before after Kirklin and

1941
01:24:26,399 --> 01:24:28,199
don't be that high. But kirklind you gotta be hired,

1942
01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:30,800
no joke. What are you? Final thoughts in a writing?

1943
01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:35,199
Speaker 6: My final thoughts on this film? This one was something special.

1944
01:24:35,319 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 2: It was definitely an original idea with some fantastic performances.

1945
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 1: You watch it, No, definitely not.

1946
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,039
Speaker 2: It's funny because I was like toying with the idea

1947
01:24:47,359 --> 01:24:50,720
and then uh this, like just today, I'm like, man,

1948
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,199
you would have not liked that movie I watched last night.

1949
01:24:53,319 --> 01:24:54,520
It was just like it was one of those that

1950
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,319
I felt like I had to talk to someone about it,

1951
01:24:56,399 --> 01:24:57,880
and I like, I was just describing me.

1952
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,199
Speaker 6: She's like, I don't want to know. I don't want

1953
01:24:59,239 --> 01:24:59,359
to know.

1954
01:25:00,159 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is what you do.

1955
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,199
Speaker 6: You're a nurse. You know you put people with needles.

1956
01:25:03,279 --> 01:25:08,159
Speaker 3: You know. It was funny when when I was watching this,

1957
01:25:08,239 --> 01:25:10,199
I was watching my parents place. I'm like, I'm not

1958
01:25:10,319 --> 01:25:12,319
watching this with my mom's home because i know she'll

1959
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,039
just freak out of this. But my dad got home

1960
01:25:15,119 --> 01:25:17,640
like four act three pretty much, and he sat down

1961
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,800
on the couch and just like watched the rest with me,

1962
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,640
and I'm like, I don't even want to explain what

1963
01:25:22,199 --> 01:25:24,680
how we've gotten to this point. You know, he was chilling.

1964
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,760
He was on his iPad. But it was like just

1965
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,199
such a weird movie to walk in and say, someone.

1966
01:25:29,159 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 6: Watch especially that act like there she is.

1967
01:25:38,279 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know there's there's some really good stuff

1968
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,560
in here and some stuff that I don't ever want

1969
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:48,399
to see again. I think I think I'll make the bargain.

1970
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,279
I'll give this one an eight point five out of

1971
01:25:50,359 --> 01:25:53,479
ten if I never have seen it again, and I'm

1972
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:54,439
happy with that.

1973
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 1: You might be itching one time in years from now

1974
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,479
because you canna think about it. You know, it's honestly,

1975
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,159
it's grossome at likenit. But I'll say, like, there's stuff

1976
01:26:01,199 --> 01:26:03,439
that for me improved even though and I loved it

1977
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,640
the first time. Yeah, watching it and I was like, Okay,

1978
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:06,880
this is flowing pretty well.

1979
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 2: So it's stuff because there's like some beautiful shots that's

1980
01:26:10,039 --> 01:26:12,600
just like eye Candy, and then there's like the opposite,

1981
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,039
which is just like eye Acid at the end. But like,

1982
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:16,960
but I guess now that I've seen it, I'll like

1983
01:26:17,159 --> 01:26:19,920
know what to uh like what parts to skip through,

1984
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,000
because like there were many times I literally was just

1985
01:26:22,039 --> 01:26:24,119
not looking like at the screen, and I'm like, I

1986
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:31,239
would help, I think, make bele These had like gross noises,

1987
01:26:31,399 --> 01:26:36,359
just squishy noises, just just not good your ear sounds,

1988
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,920
crunchy noises. Yeah, I love chicken, but like, man, they

1989
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:41,680
make chicken.

1990
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,279
Speaker 6: Look so gross in this in this movie.

1991
01:26:43,399 --> 01:26:46,359
Speaker 2: And but uh yeah, I know it's it's it's a

1992
01:26:46,399 --> 01:26:49,239
good one and I would definitely recommend it to many

1993
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:50,399
many people out there.

1994
01:26:51,319 --> 01:26:53,319
Speaker 1: I was trying to find the way you're describing this

1995
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,159
isn't the exact one. I was trying to find this

1996
01:26:56,239 --> 01:26:59,000
me when you're describing Ie Acid Kirkling, I.

1997
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:00,079
Speaker 3: Don't know if I want to see.

1998
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 1: On this. It's not the exact one. There's another one

1999
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:10,039
that's good.

2000
01:27:10,399 --> 01:27:11,039
Speaker 6: Sees the Moon.

2001
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so good, it's I drop it and just

2002
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,960
falls completely. But uh yeah, no, no, no, sport like

2003
01:27:19,119 --> 01:27:21,600
surprise here it's my second. I got a ranked second.

2004
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,399
But this is one that when I make my which

2005
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,479
I can't wait. We're almost halfway there, when I make

2006
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,359
my Best of the Decade list, this is so far

2007
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,079
gonna be high. I gotta look and compare it, but

2008
01:27:31,159 --> 01:27:33,319
it's i'd say a top ten right now. For the

2009
01:27:33,359 --> 01:27:36,399
past four years, I love this movie. Like I said quality,

2010
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,560
it just continues to be Kimera. The first thing, like

2011
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,520
just to see her in like The Nice Guys and

2012
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,520
she had this minor role of like a porn star

2013
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,720
and like okay, like yeah, good looking girl and she's

2014
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,760
like good actress. Sure, But then from there to now,

2015
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:50,640
it's like that girl she's gonna or that woman at

2016
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,560
least she's gonna win an oscar very very soon and

2017
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,880
uh and more. It's just like like I said, I'd

2018
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:57,720
have to go back and do like a deep dive,

2019
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,159
because yeah, like Ghosts is great, but like I don't know,

2020
01:28:01,279 --> 01:28:03,479
like it's there's something else. There's like a like g

2021
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,800
I Jane's but this is just like I just feel

2022
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:07,319
like a different level. I feel like everyone's on a

2023
01:28:07,399 --> 01:28:10,960
different level here, including the director and yeah, whatever I've

2024
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,000
seen Sam, and I have to see if there's more films,

2025
01:28:13,079 --> 01:28:14,640
even short films that I'm trying to go back and

2026
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,960
take a look at, especially like learning some things. But yeah,

2027
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,520
I know this film for me somehow, it's on the

2028
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,600
opposite of Kirkland. So I'm just a fucking weird or

2029
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,159
I'm like, oh, this is real. This is a movie

2030
01:28:24,199 --> 01:28:26,319
that like I'm gonna put on a lot. I could see.

2031
01:28:26,359 --> 01:28:28,319
It's probably because the humor aspect, where like we talked

2032
01:28:28,319 --> 01:28:29,520
about The Witch a few weeks ago, is like that

2033
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,600
I need, like I need some time in between. But

2034
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:33,920
because it is so zany and there's so many moments

2035
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,199
that like I have a good time with that, I

2036
01:28:36,279 --> 01:28:39,760
think it will be on a heavy rotation. So but uh, yeah,

2037
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,600
I won't be watching in apel because I'm a least

2038
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,199
like seeing it like a little bit. But like you know,

2039
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,840
it wasn't her cup of Tea either. But yeah, big

2040
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:51,319
old ten for me. Love this movie. Thank you try

2041
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,359
for recommending it, because we would have talked about it,

2042
01:28:53,399 --> 01:28:55,000
I'm sure at some point, but I'm glad we did.

2043
01:28:55,079 --> 01:28:55,199
Speaker 4: Uh.

2044
01:28:55,399 --> 01:28:58,159
Speaker 1: I think this warranted a full review and I'm happy

2045
01:28:58,319 --> 01:29:01,039
we're not doing a It's not a uh, what is

2046
01:29:01,079 --> 01:29:03,520
a salpurn situation where if this does come up a

2047
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,680
lot in February and it's like, oh, why didn't you

2048
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,319
guys do a full review, it's like, well, there you go,

2049
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,920
we we did it, and yeah, so that's it. If

2050
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,039
you ever want us to talk about something, let us know,

2051
01:29:13,199 --> 01:29:15,960
become a patron producer. Again. Thank you very much, Charlie Randal.

2052
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,279
We hope you enjoyed this retrospective review whatever you want

2053
01:29:19,319 --> 01:29:22,039
to call it. Hope it lived with the expectations. And yeah,

2054
01:29:22,119 --> 01:29:23,680
once you've listened to it, because I know you're in

2055
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:25,640
the discord, hit us something discord, let's know your thoughts

2056
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,199
and everything, because other people have seen the movie and

2057
01:29:28,279 --> 01:29:29,840
our crew and everything like that, and I think most

2058
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,800
of our people are high on it. I'm sure once

2059
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,960
Clay and I might get around to seeing it, you know,

2060
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:36,920
it will be a different discussion there. They're on the

2061
01:29:37,039 --> 01:29:39,920
different side nowadays. But thank you very much for tuning in.

2062
01:29:40,079 --> 01:29:42,720
When you hear from us next, it will not be boring, ye,