Speaker 1: We have a question from Doylene Taiprobu and he's asking,
Speaker 1: if we say that Mahaprabu and Nityananda Prabu are the
Speaker 1: most merciful avatars of Bagawan, why Mahaprabu was so strict
Speaker 1: with Choda Harri Doas for me, it's the kind of
Speaker 1: scandalous that Mahapabu got satisfied with his suicide. And why
Speaker 1: did Janando prop got so angry with Shivananda because he
Speaker 1: was late. Please explain these two pastimes Choda Harry does
Speaker 1: chastisement and Nityananda Prabu kicking shivanandas.
Speaker 2: So we have to understand the word meaning li lah pastimes.
Speaker 2: There is our divine pastimes. Just like in a movie,
Speaker 2: a play, a drama, there has to be some dramatic
Speaker 2: tension so that the and ones, the heroic aspect can
Speaker 2: rise and be seen, be in the spotlight the heroic
Speaker 2: aspect and Leelah means devotion. The connecting thread between all
Speaker 2: these pastimes is the spotlight will be shin, will shine
Speaker 2: on devotion. That is what is important. So in the
Speaker 2: case of Chota hearted Us, we see for not only
Speaker 2: what we call it a minor offense, really no offense
Speaker 2: at all, and that underscores the importance of this pastime.
Speaker 2: We're told that he on the plea of begging round
Speaker 2: from Harperable, he approached one lady Andy.
Speaker 3: He keeps sucking his teeth. I don't like the way
Speaker 3: he talking. I like spiritual talk. But did he just
Speaker 3: have woodies or something? You see? And what had happened
Speaker 3: was with marhapaboots. Listen, it's holdness Wednesday. The voice of
Speaker 3: reason has returned to the scene of the conversation, and
Speaker 3: he brought his right and eye in the building. You
Speaker 3: already know who's here, precious Miguel, that's in the building.
Speaker 4: How y'all doing.
Speaker 3: Tonight's topic is a heavy one, and he was about
Speaker 3: to broach it. He just kept.
Speaker 4: Getting that barbecue out of his teeth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like it, but to get in the moxtails.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you so, tonight's topic is deep because
Speaker 3: we've heard this topic in many different ways, but not
Speaker 3: quite like this. H you've heard Shakespeare The world is
Speaker 3: a stage, right, everybody has their interests entrance and exit right.
Speaker 3: The world is a play. I heard Guru say something
Speaker 3: about his miracles before Guru by the name of Setya
Speaker 3: Sai Baba and you know Rod Sterling and all these
Speaker 3: people like studied this guy. Okay, scientists went to live
Speaker 3: with him and study him because of the sheer, mass
Speaker 3: and volume and value of the things he was materializing
Speaker 3: out of thin air.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I've heard yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, documented guy, and well it's interesting. He said to
Speaker 3: the scientists. He used the Sanskrit term leila. He said,
Speaker 3: the miracles are my leila. And then the scientists was like, well,
Speaker 3: we don't speak can do or Sanskrit, so what is that?
Speaker 3: And he said, leila means play sport, right, my divine play.
Speaker 3: He said, if you were to understand the immensity of
Speaker 3: my being, you would see that the miracles are like
Speaker 3: a mosquito on the back of an elephant. So he
Speaker 3: was explaining this stuff to these scientists and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is it the intimate leela or divine play? M right.
Speaker 3: We jump into these relationships for a purpose to play
Speaker 3: a role that maybe we are unaware mostly right of
Speaker 3: which role we're supposed to play or why we're there. Right,
Speaker 3: the intimate leela divine play trying to stabilize intimate impermanence
Speaker 3: oh my God. In Sanskrit, leela means play, sport, or
Speaker 3: divine play. In Hindu philosophy, it describes how the entire
Speaker 3: universe and all existence are created by the Divine out
Speaker 3: of spontaneous joy and freedom, rather than necessity or need.
Speaker 3: So the question became, what if God provides the mirrored
Speaker 3: intimate play i e. The relationship while conditioning our conditioning
Speaker 3: our wounds, writes the protective false self script, we keep
Speaker 3: performing inside of this divine play called relationships? Right? What
Speaker 3: if the thing you keep demanding from the person in
Speaker 3: front of you is the exact capacity life is calling
Speaker 3: you to reclaim within yourself a divine play. So you
Speaker 3: got to play this thing out pretty much. You got
Speaker 3: to get in it with somebody and figure out why
Speaker 3: you were attracted to that person, And oh, here we go.
Speaker 3: What if the person you called the love of your
Speaker 3: life entered carrying the key to the place where you
Speaker 3: still believe you are incomplete? Human beings begin life dependent
Speaker 3: That dependence is innocent. A child requires regulation, protection, recognition, touch, present,
Speaker 3: and care. When those needs remain unfinished, adulthood can inherit
Speaker 3: more than pain. It can inherit an assignment find somebody
Speaker 3: who will finally make the old absence stop hurting. Then
Speaker 3: attraction can feel like destiny because conditioning recognizes a familiar
Speaker 3: role before consciousness recognizes the script. The divine mirrored intimate
Speaker 3: play forces another free changing human being close enough to
Speaker 3: activate what solitude can keep hidden. Their distance can uncover abandonment.
Speaker 3: Independence can expose control. A boundary can reveal entitlement. Desire
Speaker 3: can expose the hunger to be chosen. Change can uncover
Speaker 3: the fear beneath your demand for permanence. See the fear
Speaker 3: needs permanence. Don't leave, don't go. That's coming from home.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, so you mean to tell me the relationship
Speaker 3: is a divine play designed to take you back home
Speaker 3: so you can break up with home so you can
Speaker 3: now move forward in an unconditioned talk to me, precious,
Speaker 3: it's the short.
Speaker 4: End the long of it. Essentially, it's the short end,
Speaker 4: the lung of it. And it is the divine piece
Speaker 4: about it is it's a default that we have right
Speaker 4: We subconsciously, unknowingly choose the precise brand of pain that
Speaker 4: we're healing from. Now Here's the thing about it is,
Speaker 4: the closer we get to remedying ourselves of that pain.
Speaker 4: It might get real ugly, right, So it may manifest
Speaker 4: in certain ways, like, for example, you could have a
Speaker 4: guy that has a mother that is dealing with mental
Speaker 4: health challenges and she's undiagnosed and she is wreaking havoc
Speaker 4: on the family, and his sole desire from age eight
Speaker 4: is to get out of dodge, start a life of
Speaker 4: his own, not be in a space where he has
Speaker 4: to be subject to that energy from a woman. And
Speaker 4: so he's playboy, play around, not really attaching, which is
Speaker 4: also avoiding. And then he gets to a place where
Speaker 4: he feels like, you know, I'm you know, in my forties.
Speaker 4: Now I want to kind of start to settle down
Speaker 4: or I want to think about settling down, and so
Speaker 4: he begins to choose, and then it's like, look, I'm
Speaker 4: finally being good to this person and she's talking to
Speaker 4: me crazy, she's speaking about things that have no clue
Speaker 4: about Well, you are for her her trauma, she is
Speaker 4: for you yours, right. And it's not until you enter
Speaker 4: into relationship where these types of dynamics start to play out,
Speaker 4: Because if you're just touching go, you're avoiding connection, you're
Speaker 4: going for feeling got me, and it's like, what did
Speaker 4: I do? Actually, you did nothing. She's being triggered by
Speaker 4: her trauma, but what you're witnessing in her is yours.
Speaker 3: Oh Lord, here go to question is what if the
Speaker 3: person you thought broad God sent to you?
Speaker 4: Oh my God, I would say that God did send
Speaker 4: them to you.
Speaker 3: Wait, let me give it a questions. What if the
Speaker 3: person you thought God sent to complete you was fine
Speaker 3: tuned to expose the part of you that still believed
Speaker 3: completion was necessary.
Speaker 4: And I would say they are got a godsend because
Speaker 4: they expose, They peel back the layers that you are
Speaker 4: dealing with. So you know, a person could feel abandoned
Speaker 4: and there is no abandonment there because this person is
Speaker 4: triggering it for you. Maybe they're a secure attached, securely
Speaker 4: attached person and they don't walk around with their phone
Speaker 4: in their hands, so you know they didn't even see
Speaker 4: that you called here. It is hours later you didne
Speaker 4: crashed out right. Well, if I could just get you
Speaker 4: to be more mindful that I'm going to be calling,
Speaker 4: tend to your phone so that I won't have to
Speaker 4: experience this. No, you mind your business. You tend to
Speaker 4: whatever is coming up with you because I'm triggering it,
Speaker 4: but I'm not doing it.
Speaker 3: Gosh, did God write a role script a role for you?
Speaker 4: No, I would say aloud.
Speaker 3: Here we go. We can't stay right there, don't go nowhere.
Speaker 3: We cook it, and we cook it. When the voice
Speaker 3: of reason returns, Holeness Wednesday, gonna turn the heat up
Speaker 3: on the grail. Let's go.
Speaker 5: The truth of face, not living delusions.
Speaker 3: Were about to get cussed out.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 5: Without delusions, it's very difficult to observe.
Speaker 6: For gludy yourself and not fashing actualities. Then you said,
Speaker 6: becomes impossible to recut once.
Speaker 5: I sped. But we like delos, salusions everybody form of deception.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 6: Because you have flicked to look at ourselves, as we said,
Speaker 6: to look out ourselves very clearly, accurately, precisely.
Speaker 5: It's only possible in a mirror of relationship. That's the
Speaker 5: only mirror that we have.
Speaker 6: When you look at yourself, we have combed your hair,
Speaker 6: shaving or doing whatever you're doing to your face.
Speaker 3: Sorry, ay Man, Marty, I told you he was going. Gosh,
Speaker 3: so again, relationship. The only mirror you have is what
Speaker 3: he said, This divine Leela, this play Shakespeare, The world
Speaker 3: is a stage. Everybody has their entrance and their exits, right,
Speaker 3: So the intimate relationship who wrote the script?
Speaker 4: When you say the intimate, you mean between two people.
Speaker 3: Between two people, between a family, friend groups, soul groups,
Speaker 3: because there's conflict there.
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of the concept of co creators?
Speaker 4: We are co creators, right, We are in creation with God,
Speaker 4: expanding through experience, right, Like Jim Hendrick say, are you experienced? Right?
Speaker 4: It's the It's not about being good, it's about the learning.
Speaker 4: It's about the expansion, you know, being intentional, about healing
Speaker 4: the part of your life that you had no control
Speaker 4: over with the exception of you choosing this experience. I'm
Speaker 4: a soul standpoint, you know. But even the time that
Speaker 4: we spend unintentional and just following our feelings of being
Speaker 4: in love, you know, that high of being in love,
Speaker 4: there's something divine about that too, because you learn at
Speaker 4: some point that feeling for me became like a red flag, like, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, that's feeling real good. But let me pay attention,
Speaker 4: you know, because I'm a lover girl. I love love,
Speaker 4: but it means something vastly different to me now than
Speaker 4: it did when I was twenty five. Oh right, because
Speaker 4: I've done a lot of expanding learning, and when you
Speaker 4: first start that learning process, you are looking at your partner,
Speaker 4: so you can kind of like how we talked about
Speaker 4: the wound vetting, so you can make a different choice.
Speaker 4: And then what you realize is what you have to
Speaker 4: choose is yourself, gosh right, not yourself and other people,
Speaker 4: but paying attention in choosing yourself and honoring yourself in relationship,
Speaker 4: not avoiding them, but honoring yourself inside relationship.
Speaker 3: What if the relationship keeps changing because the play is alive,
Speaker 3: while the same relationship keeps repeating because the false self
Speaker 3: refuses to improvise. When we come forward the voice of reason,
Speaker 3: we're gonna keep this barbecue.
Speaker 7: I came up with a way of understanding this what
Speaker 7: I would call this magnetic attraction of personality types. And
Speaker 7: what I what I what I what I created is
Speaker 7: what we all already know. I came up with an explanation,
Speaker 7: a word created for something that fits our own experience,
Speaker 7: that there is a personality type match that pulls people
Speaker 7: together into a real relationship, whether it's healthy a relationship
Speaker 7: attraction or unhealthy relationship attraction. And in the case of
Speaker 7: a codependent, someone who is connected to everyone else's needs
Speaker 7: over their own is seemingly and always attracted to someone
Speaker 7: who is a narcissist who's always connected to their own needs.
Speaker 5: Just like a.
Speaker 7: Professional dancing couple, we think about if they're going to
Speaker 7: dance for a living, their roles must be perfectly matched.
Speaker 7: You cannot have two people leading a dance because it's
Speaker 7: just won't happen. There's gonna be a tug of pull.
Speaker 7: You can't have two people following in a dance because
Speaker 7: they're going to step on each other's toes. For this
Speaker 7: dancing experience to work, you have to have a perfect
Speaker 7: matching of opposite roles. And for a dysfunctional relationship to work,
Speaker 7: to come together, and to stay together, there has to
Speaker 7: be a perfect pairing of dysfunctional opposite. The person who
Speaker 7: is a natural caregiver, who reflexively loves, cares, and respects
Speaker 7: for others at the expense of their own always, and
Speaker 7: I really mean always, is that I'm that specific and confident,
Speaker 7: is always unconsciously attracted to someone who's all about their
Speaker 7: own needs, who need someone to love, respect, and care
Speaker 7: for themselves. These two opposites don't know that one is
Speaker 7: a narcissist and the other is a codependent. They just
Speaker 7: fall in love. It's chemistry. But in reality, what we
Speaker 7: find out in these relationships it could only work, the
Speaker 7: attraction could only work, and then the persistence, the stability
Speaker 7: of this dysfunctional relationship stays because the codependent matches perfectly
Speaker 7: with the narcissist. The caregiver needs a care needer, and
Speaker 7: without the two, the relationship would not last. It's paradoxical.
Speaker 3: It come on Rossenburg something there, that's Ross Rossenberg from
Speaker 3: the human Magnet syndrome. And you know he had to
Speaker 3: clinicalize Christian Emerti's relationship as a mirror. There you go,
Speaker 3: that's all The relationship is a mirror, right.
Speaker 4: But I like the context of it, yeah, he cooked, Yeah,
Speaker 4: because it begs the question, well, what role are you
Speaker 4: playing in the relationship? Your partner's this, your partner's that,
Speaker 4: your partner's this? What about you?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: And if you can get to the what about you?
Speaker 4: That's effective that's where work can be done.
Speaker 3: And then who wrote your script? This is a divine
Speaker 3: play because because you hear people say this all the time, right,
Speaker 3: you chose this reality before you came here. You chose
Speaker 3: the parents, you chose the situations and what you're going
Speaker 3: to go through. You chose all of this because you
Speaker 3: wanted expansion and growth, and you wanted to be able
Speaker 3: to return back to your true self that is devoid
Speaker 3: of all of the stuff you went through when you
Speaker 3: chose this life. This is growth. This is God rediscovering
Speaker 3: different parts of itself while already knowing the journey, while
Speaker 3: revealing the journey to the un known parts of it.
Speaker 3: Do you see how this works? So if that is
Speaker 3: the case, who wrote the script and why and why
Speaker 3: are you playing this out?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 4: I from my perspective, it's a part of the soul's journey.
Speaker 4: It's carrying over karmic lessons. You know, it's to me
Speaker 4: a little lazy when people say I just want what
Speaker 4: God wants from me. Well, perfect, God wants for you
Speaker 4: what you want for you, So what do you want right?
Speaker 4: Those needs, wants, desires, the behavior, the situation predestined not
Speaker 4: by God, well by God, but the part of you
Speaker 4: that is the nation of God, that is choosing the
Speaker 4: soul lessons that are carried over and over like for example,
Speaker 4: without getting on your head too much there's someone that
Speaker 4: I know that you know, and there's a deep soul
Speaker 4: connection there. Right, There's been lifetimes of this type of connection.
Speaker 4: You can't get away from it. Even if you stop
Speaker 4: seeing the person in this lifetime, you will see them
Speaker 4: in the next. This is why there's a part of
Speaker 4: us that feels drawn to a person. Right. I know
Speaker 4: that I've had very few but very intense connections with
Speaker 4: a very few people, and it doesn't really make sense
Speaker 4: why I will be in connection with this person, right,
Speaker 4: But there's something to the soul. There's something that the
Speaker 4: soul is attempting to learn. And when we're in the
Speaker 4: soul state, without the body, without the being, right, we
Speaker 4: are just the soul. In a soul state, these agreements
Speaker 4: are much more amicable. Hey, I need you to disappoint
Speaker 4: me in this next lifetime.
Speaker 3: Can you do that for me? I got same up,
Speaker 3: I got you. I got a good disappointment, yeah, right right, yes.
Speaker 4: And in relationship to our last experiences together, it might
Speaker 4: help balance me out if we go in this way,
Speaker 4: you know. And this is why I tell people when
Speaker 4: they ask the question, am I gonna end up with
Speaker 4: my person? That remains to be seen?
Speaker 3: But to me. That's womb talk.
Speaker 4: It is the wound talk.
Speaker 3: That's womb talk.
Speaker 4: It's because it's attachment, because.
Speaker 3: The wound is like permanence, stability, consistency, don't change. All
Speaker 3: of that's born out of need. When you start dealing
Speaker 3: with the higher levels of consciousness, need goes away.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It you enter in a space where I use
Speaker 4: to wonder why they would say this. If you love something,
Speaker 4: you'll set it free right now?
Speaker 3: You know? Right now?
Speaker 4: I know because I'm working at setting people free, loving
Speaker 4: and setting people free, even in an intimate connection. It's like,
Speaker 4: allow this person to be who they are without my expectations.
Speaker 4: So I won't run down to a person what it
Speaker 4: is I need from you? Well, tell me what you need. No,
Speaker 4: and now, because I'm trying to play a game, I
Speaker 4: don't want to manipulate you out of your experience of
Speaker 4: being show up authentically.
Speaker 3: Intimate, mirrored, divine, orchestrated leila.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: This is a miracle God put together so that we
Speaker 3: could discover the God in us, the needlessness in us.
Speaker 3: When we come forward the voice of reason on wholeness Wednesdays,
Speaker 3: when Precious Miguil, we gonna keep God again.
Speaker 8: The question is about intimate relationships, how to how to
Speaker 8: how to leave these relationships from this pure love and
Speaker 8: not like in my personal experience, it's always coming back
Speaker 8: to the ID identification as soon as I it doesn't
Speaker 8: come from pure love. And in the end, of course,
Speaker 8: I'm disappointed because I have projections and.
Speaker 3: I have a.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I need something from from the person, and it
Speaker 8: seems like and since I'm disappointed, I go back to
Speaker 8: this advitor. I said to myself, Okay, I withdraw and
Speaker 8: that's where I really feel the piece of my true beating.
Speaker 8: But it seems like there is something something, yeah, something missing, well,
Speaker 8: like as if I'm cutting some part of life.
Speaker 9: I think the Church of England should rewrite their wedding
Speaker 9: vows and instead of vowing to obey and all that
Speaker 9: we should, we should take a vow to love each
Speaker 9: other unconditionally, which is simply another way of stating that
Speaker 9: the prior nature of our shared being, we don't actually
Speaker 9: have to vow. It's an acknowledgment of what is already
Speaker 9: the case, an acknowledgment of the fact that behind our
Speaker 9: differing thoughts and feelings and sometimes conflictual activities and ways
Speaker 9: of relating a being as shed That would be the first.
Speaker 3: Get professor snape out of here.
Speaker 4: Six and one hand, half a dozen and another.
Speaker 3: I mean, what in the Hogwarts relationship advice, I see
Speaker 3: what he was trying to get at. Yeah, and I
Speaker 3: even understand her question. But she's highlighting something that I
Speaker 3: keep saying. This is why it's a divine play. You
Speaker 3: think you need something? Yes, she was labeling it. I'm
Speaker 3: looking for this person because of something I need, and
Speaker 3: this is why I call need the original sin. So
Speaker 3: now I have the question, what if your relationships have
Speaker 3: been telling you you the truth about you that your
Speaker 3: identity right currently has been organized to conceal. So you
Speaker 3: had to become somebody to survive the somebody's that molded you.
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed.
Speaker 3: So now when you get into a relationship and it's
Speaker 3: operating as a mirror, it's exposing to somebody you had
Speaker 3: to become, and it's saying, oh, no, no, no, I
Speaker 3: don't want to date that. There's something on the other side.
Speaker 3: Is that you? Who is that? Talk to me?
Speaker 4: It's more of a this, right, it's the rub that
Speaker 4: you feel. The rub is what you're in relationship with.
Speaker 4: I've been disrespected. I've been abandoned. I've been hurt. They
Speaker 4: don't value me. I self abandon I don't value myself.
Speaker 4: I don't respect myself. I'm not loving myself. I don't
Speaker 4: know how to show up for myself. You know, the
Speaker 4: first time I heard that concept when someone told me, well,
Speaker 4: they're just mirroring in you how you feel about yourself,
Speaker 4: because I'm like, hell no, you know, I'm a fly chick.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I love me what I marry me?
Speaker 4: It is a different question than would you marry you.
Speaker 4: It's more like, if you married you, what would you
Speaker 4: be getting?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Because what you feel in relationship to another person's behavior
Speaker 4: says everything about what you need to heal inside of yourself.
Speaker 4: And that's an unpleasant look because we don't think that
Speaker 4: we would do that to ourselves. But what I'm saying
Speaker 4: is indeed, you're doing it to yourself by not looking
Speaker 4: at it in yourself. And so you are attracted chemically,
Speaker 4: even to someone and it's like something's different about them.
Speaker 4: They have an exotic look. No, it's not really what
Speaker 4: the person looks like on the outside. It's the and
Speaker 4: the trauma that they're carrying that matches the magnet. It's
Speaker 4: the metal for the magnet that's in you. That is
Speaker 4: your unhealed trauma.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 10: When different lovers keep activating strangely familiar fears, desires, defenses, attractions,
Speaker 10: and emotional roles.
Speaker 3: Are you repeatedly choosing the wrong people or are different
Speaker 3: people being cast into an unfinished psychological script you keep
Speaker 3: carrying from relationship to relationships. You got a script. That
Speaker 3: script is your type vibrationally, a frequency. Oh, you got
Speaker 3: a frequency type and it's all lined in, and you're
Speaker 3: calling it in because you refuse to go with the
Speaker 3: Talk to me about that refusal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like if you are the orchestrator or you
Speaker 4: are the conductor of this musical group, you ever had
Speaker 4: to replace the bass player ten times, but they're still
Speaker 4: playing the bass no matter how they're showing up. Their
Speaker 4: discipline may be different, their skill level may be different,
Speaker 4: but they still playing the bass. That is the chord
Speaker 4: that is in you. It is what needs to be healed.
Speaker 4: So instead of trying to figure out what's wrong with
Speaker 4: the bass player, figure out what inside of you was
Speaker 4: corresponding to that need. You understand what I'm saying, where
Speaker 4: is that internal need? What is it coming from? I
Speaker 4: did a head cleaning for someone in my office, and
Speaker 4: I noticed that the bubbles that were coming up. One
Speaker 4: was larger than I had ever seen. It was like
Speaker 4: it had burned the bottle. And as soon as it
Speaker 4: came up, it delivered so much information where I was
Speaker 4: able to see, you're not having an issue with your woman.
Speaker 4: You have an issue with your mama. Well, I've healed
Speaker 4: my issue with my mama. Yes, Now, this is why
Speaker 4: you get to deal with your mama. The unseen, unspoken
Speaker 4: parts in other people, and it's showing up quite viciously
Speaker 4: because the spirit loves you much.
Speaker 3: What's your website? Somebody need their head cleannessy? You know
Speaker 3: what do you do it? Like a shoe shine? I
Speaker 3: need a headshine?
Speaker 4: Well, rags are involved.
Speaker 3: What's the website?
Speaker 4: Press with precious dot com?
Speaker 3: Gosh, when difficult lovers keep activating strangely familiar fears, desires, defenses, attractions,
Speaker 3: this is heavy stuff. Tonight. Listen, you're listening to the
Speaker 3: voice of reasons. It's holding this Wednesday. Uh TikTok is
Speaker 3: on fire. YouTube is on fire. I want to do
Speaker 3: something different tonight, I want the callers to call in.
Speaker 3: I call in, but I want to ask the callers questions. Oh,
Speaker 3: I want to ask them question nice Typically they call
Speaker 3: in and ask oh.
Speaker 4: Andy said, they're not gonna call.
Speaker 3: Andy, don't have no faith.
Speaker 4: You don't think they were calling last night?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were. I'm not gonna drill. I'm gonna ask questions.
Speaker 4: I'm a drill the same.
Speaker 3: Way I ask precious questions and precious answers. Y'all been
Speaker 3: listening now. I want to see what they're going I
Speaker 3: want to see their thought process. Yeah, Andy said, they're
Speaker 3: not gonna do it. The number of doll is one,
Speaker 3: eight hundred and nine twenty fifteen eighty. I got questions
Speaker 3: for you. Would you like to answer them? For me?
Speaker 3: I need to be educated, please, Yeah, call and enlighten
Speaker 3: me and precious, can you do it? The number dow
Speaker 3: one eight hundred nine, twenty fifteen eighty. When we come
Speaker 3: forward more from the v R.
Speaker 11: There's sang Sanga means the numbers of people who have
Speaker 11: come together called by the same voice, which is always
Speaker 11: the impersonal voice of truth, says time now in this life,
Speaker 11: come come and discover the truth. You see there are
Speaker 11: many ways that we can discover the truth through in
Speaker 11: many different forms, through different religions, in different practices. Because
Speaker 11: God is infinite, God is immense. You cannot limit God
Speaker 11: to one particular religions. Only this religion and knows God.
Speaker 11: This is nonsense things Gods as varied as people are.
Speaker 11: Each one of them can and find God in a way,
Speaker 11: not just by their own imagination, but if they have
Speaker 11: that urge within them already. That urge is put in
Speaker 11: there by the grace of God and will lead them
Speaker 11: to the path that is right and suitable for them. Okay,
Speaker 11: I am glad and thankful to know you. So I'm
Speaker 11: glad and thankful to know you had a safe trip
Speaker 11: back to Mantisahasha, thank you for making this letter possible.
Speaker 11: Thank you for handling this situation of crisis with such generosity,
Speaker 11: care and prudence. Thank you for your loving being. Thank
Speaker 11: you with this catchup. I experienced this time as a
Speaker 11: great opportunity for going deeper. The opportunity of taking part
Speaker 11: online in the Rishikesh retreat was the starting point of
Speaker 11: this turning inside. Now life offers a retreat situation in
Speaker 11: daily life. Yes, this is true, ah.
Speaker 3: Mike Andy that Mouji mooji cooks. I like it. Tonight's
Speaker 3: topic is one of those ones. This is intimate theater
Speaker 3: as long as you acting and performing, this is intimate theater.
Speaker 3: And we are opening up the phone lines because we
Speaker 3: want to hear from our callers. We want to ask
Speaker 3: them questions and see what their answers are. Precious, Yes,
Speaker 3: are you ready for that?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: The number to die one eight hundred nine twenty fifteen eighty.
Speaker 3: Get to your phone lines right now. What role are
Speaker 3: you playing in your relationship? Are you the director? Writer? Actor?
Speaker 3: Are you like prince? Do you do all of you?
Speaker 3: Who are all the hats? And if so, why who
Speaker 3: wrote the script? And for what purpose? Was it you?
Speaker 3: Or the AI wound? I want to know one nine
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen eighty. We got callers, Let's get them right now.
Speaker 3: Off the top of Jamaica Queen's New York Wiggy, Wiggy.
Speaker 12: Hello, Hi Halloween, Hey Queen by Queen Pee? How how
Speaker 12: has everybody in the comment section?
Speaker 3: Wiggy?
Speaker 12: We love tonight.
Speaker 4: I loved y'all.
Speaker 12: That's what I'm here. I'm not scared to call you.
Speaker 12: Why y'all don't call? What's so?
Speaker 5: Scar?
Speaker 12: Come on?
Speaker 3: Now, oh, are you ready for your question? Then here
Speaker 3: we go.
Speaker 12: I have I have a jading in a very long time.
Speaker 3: That's okay, but you got experience, right, Yes, okay, here's
Speaker 3: your question. If God keeps changing the scenery, the actors,
Speaker 3: the circumstances, and the emotional conditions of the play, why
Speaker 3: does the same version of you keep showing up to
Speaker 3: perform the same part?
Speaker 12: Ooh, I suspect that I haven't made any adjustment, and
Speaker 12: therefore I am picking the same type of individual because
Speaker 12: it's because it's me. It's something within me that I'm picking,
Speaker 12: and I'm attrancing that to me, And so that person
Speaker 12: comes and so I'm there. I'm dealing with whatever it
Speaker 12: falls within myself through them, and so that will continue
Speaker 12: until I, at some point realize what I'm doing. Then
Speaker 12: I'm gonna get a different result. But until I make
Speaker 12: that change. And because it had happened to me, because
Speaker 12: I can't pick it the same type, yes, because I
Speaker 12: was Yes, I was not aware of myself. I thought
Speaker 12: it was some kind of attraction, but it was actually
Speaker 12: some kind of avoidance that I was actually attractive. I
Speaker 12: was looking at them, but it was really all the
Speaker 12: time me mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Indeed, indeed you know what, Wiggy, Wiggy, Wiggy growing nail
Speaker 4: on the head, Wiggy up in here, growing under our nose.
Speaker 3: Yes, Wiggy, I love the transparency.
Speaker 12: Represent got the represents the Williams Queen and preston.
Speaker 4: The website with precious.
Speaker 3: With precious God. Come, I guess what you.
Speaker 13: Uh?
Speaker 12: Bring Jamaica queens into the house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love you, we love you, we love you.
Speaker 3: If you want to call us, I gotta do this.
Speaker 3: Call us right now, fifteen eighty. Let's dip over to Denver, Colorado.
Speaker 3: CALLI soul is in the calling.
Speaker 14: Good evening.
Speaker 12: Hey, queen, Hey queen, all right, it's going good evening.
Speaker 3: Are you ready?
Speaker 14: I'm ready? How's here?
Speaker 13: Ball?
Speaker 4: She said it like be be kind? So did you
Speaker 4: feel that? Hello?
Speaker 14: I'm mainly learning tonight. So it's good that y'all ask
Speaker 14: for callers.
Speaker 1: T'all can ask questions.
Speaker 14: I'm like, I'm not, y'all got me listening and thinking.
Speaker 4: I believe in you though. CALLI. I think you're gonna get.
Speaker 3: This because it's Cali. I'm gonna do hey, because it's Cali.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a two part question, Okay, true or false?
Speaker 3: The play reveals the mask. The script protects the mask, impermanence,
Speaker 3: keeps threatening the masks survival. True or false? But then
Speaker 3: that's the true false piece. The second part of the
Speaker 3: question is who might you discover yourself to be? If
Speaker 3: you stop confusing the protective character, you learn to play
Speaker 3: with the conscious experiencing the play itself.
Speaker 4: What oh, I got a d D. Now one question
Speaker 4: at the time, I follow it?
Speaker 3: Okay, again, deal with the deal with the first one?
Speaker 3: True or false? The play, The play reveals the mass,
Speaker 3: the script protects the mask. Impermanence, keeps threatening the mask's survival.
Speaker 3: True or false?
Speaker 14: Keep threatening the mask survival. That's true?
Speaker 15: Yeah, but why.
Speaker 14: Because we're the casting directors. I'm the casting directors. I've
Speaker 14: been calling lessons then to help me drop the mask,
Speaker 14: to reveal me to me.
Speaker 3: She's trying to come with it a little bit.
Speaker 14: Yeah, run those three questions again, please.
Speaker 3: All right, This is the second part of the question,
Speaker 3: who might you discover yourself to be? If you stop
Speaker 3: confusing the protective character, you learn to play with the
Speaker 3: consciousness experiencing the.
Speaker 14: Play again, the casting director, the co.
Speaker 3: Creator, Why are you creating this experience for yourself.
Speaker 14: Yeah, oh, because I still got lessons to learn.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you why this experiment is so amazing, because,
Speaker 3: as doctor Allen Berger stated a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 3: when he was on the show, you know, part of
Speaker 3: my new book is saying we know the answers intellectually,
Speaker 3: but experientially that's when that's where the rubber meets the road. Right.
Speaker 3: So I'm listening and the callers are giving us the
Speaker 3: right answers. CALLI is giving us the right answers. But
Speaker 3: the question is is CALLI living the right answer?
Speaker 14: I am now, I have been recently before. I was
Speaker 14: before I thought that things were out of my control
Speaker 14: and that God wasn't necessarily co creating with me as me.
Speaker 14: I thought that God was something separate from me, doing
Speaker 14: things to me things to me, Yes, yes, And I
Speaker 14: realized I'm just the peace of God operating as God.
Speaker 14: So like I'm I'm I'm the creator of my world,
Speaker 14: of my experience.
Speaker 4: I have the naming power.
Speaker 14: I have the power of decision to change the way
Speaker 14: I see things and the way I experience them.
Speaker 3: I'm going to hand you over the precious because I
Speaker 3: know when pressure, I could feel her shifting in her
Speaker 3: talk to me.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm listening to her, and it's not that I disagree.
Speaker 4: I actually agree. However, you said something that was very
Speaker 4: key though. It's the experience, intial part that you have
Speaker 4: to even identify that this is what's happening, right, that
Speaker 4: this is how I show up. And when we are
Speaker 4: experiencing things, we feel out of control. It's like a
Speaker 4: person going to look for a job and they end
Speaker 4: up in a job where the boss doesn't acknowledge them,
Speaker 4: they're not getting adequate pay. So it feels like something
Speaker 4: that's being done to us. And am I the god
Speaker 4: of this? Am I the author of this? And indeed,
Speaker 4: but the part of us that is the god in
Speaker 4: that is the part that hasn't shown up yet.
Speaker 3: Oh wait a minute, it's underneath.
Speaker 4: It's the underneath piece.
Speaker 3: It's something that you have to tap into. Yes, and
Speaker 3: it supersedes your sense of self, as in your the ego,
Speaker 3: the persona, the personality like absolutely, God is wearing the
Speaker 3: mask of you. Is what you're saying, say go go.
Speaker 4: Because as the author, we can change the scene, right,
Speaker 4: we can add additional players, we could subtract players. But
Speaker 4: as the creator, then we understand we could ditch the
Speaker 4: freaking script and we can make this some other type
Speaker 4: of theater. We can do, uh, what is that where
Speaker 4: you improvise? We can do improvision and just do give
Speaker 4: give something different. I mean like cosplay or like how
Speaker 4: improvisional where actors improvise. Oh yeah, right, where you give
Speaker 4: a storyline and then they get to show up. We
Speaker 4: can change everything about it. That's the part of us
Speaker 4: that enters in as creators. But most often we're showing
Speaker 4: up as the author and the director and the casting agent.
Speaker 3: And it is and I'm asking Cali and you, this
Speaker 3: is it us showing up or is it the one?
Speaker 3: It's our behind to us?
Speaker 4: Now, it's a wound that we're over identifying with. We
Speaker 4: think we are the womb.
Speaker 3: If meeting another human being keeps an infant alive. How
Speaker 3: could need possibly become the problem? At what point does
Speaker 3: yesterday's necessary dependence becomes today's invisible demand that a lover
Speaker 3: finish a developmental job. Adulthood now requires you to finish
Speaker 3: within yourself. Sure you needed your mother and she wasn't there.
Speaker 3: Sure you needed your dad and they were inconsistent or
Speaker 3: whatever happened. But you're supposed to outgrow need. If you're
Speaker 3: trying to walk into unconditional love, is that why it
Speaker 3: doesn't exist?
Speaker 4: It is so perplex you know because eventually, when you
Speaker 4: get to an awakened state in your healing and mind,
Speaker 4: you there's higher levels to go than that. You know,
Speaker 4: in actualizing, you no longer feel in your pain. You know,
Speaker 4: you don't experience the pain body of what the mother
Speaker 4: didn't do. Right, you start to go beyond and feel,
Speaker 4: oh are we.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're right there. I'm sorry, hold on, stay with
Speaker 3: don go nowhere, Cally this y'all, don't gotta start. We
Speaker 3: turned up when we come forward. More from this most
Speaker 3: intriguing discussion.
Speaker 16: So what we hold on consciousness and our intention of
Speaker 16: actually influences the total field. So what can we do
Speaker 16: for mankind? We can be the most forgiving, loving, understanding,
Speaker 16: compassionate kind person. We can be towards all of life,
Speaker 16: the reverence for all of life in all of its expressions.
Speaker 16: A little black beetling on its back and his little lecture,
Speaker 16: he's saying, help me, help me. You try to walk away,
Speaker 16: and you have to go back and turn them over. Why,
Speaker 16: because that's what you have become. You have the option
Speaker 16: to say and squash them right there.
Speaker 3: I hate beetles.
Speaker 16: They stink, all right. So we have the option then
Speaker 16: at all times, at all times. And here we are
Speaker 16: on this planet, on this island, on some trajectory migratate
Speaker 16: and migration and evolutionary migration of our spirit. And here
Speaker 16: we bliss by our attitude all that we encountered. And
Speaker 16: so doing we raise the level of the sea. And
Speaker 16: by raising the lad level of the sea, these people
Speaker 16: at the bottom of the maps are lifted up by
Speaker 16: the buoyand sea of the water, not by causing effect.
Speaker 16: Giving them money increases the poverty, Haiti. The more money
Speaker 16: you gave them, the worst the poverty got. No, it's
Speaker 16: not money. It's a matter of consciousness. What causes people
Speaker 16: to be at the bottom is their level of consciousness.
Speaker 16: So what we do for all of mankind is to
Speaker 16: be as loving towards all of life as we can
Speaker 16: be thereby blessing all of mankind.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's doctor David R. Hawkings talking about the
Speaker 3: consciousness grid, and he's basically saying, if you focus on
Speaker 3: you raise your level of consciousness. And you're one of
Speaker 3: tens of thousands that collective consciousness. That evolution, that raising
Speaker 3: of consciousness will raise the lower levels of consciousness too,
Speaker 3: because they're on planet Earth with us. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Indeed, during the pandemic, when me, well, I got a message,
Speaker 4: I'm sure a lot of people who divine got messages.
Speaker 4: And I asked the spirit what is it that we
Speaker 4: do in the face of a globally devastating experience? The
Speaker 4: spirit said B. I'm like, B, what be light? And
Speaker 4: sage B praying spear said just B because it raises
Speaker 4: the vibration of the collective for you to just be.
Speaker 4: It's like when you go to a metaphysical gathering and
Speaker 4: then there's people in the back of the room in
Speaker 4: silent meditation. They're not doing anything other than raising the
Speaker 4: vibration so that the message can not just come through
Speaker 4: but intercept. You're being.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but see, so many people add three more letters
Speaker 3: to be us y. They get busy, too busy, and
Speaker 3: being literally requires awareness, which is consciousness. Right, and again,
Speaker 3: most people have to do something, But the wound needs
Speaker 3: that d You see, the wound is saying I need
Speaker 3: this to be fulfilled. This needs to come in and
Speaker 3: once I get it, I'll be satiated. But only momentarily
Speaker 3: being is understanding that I am whole in the moment, right,
Speaker 3: And if I can stay in this space longer, if
Speaker 3: I can expand the walls of that interval of time, yeah, right,
Speaker 3: I can raise up consciously and I can literally change.
Speaker 3: But I don't think people want to change. That's that,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the truth of the matter is is we
Speaker 4: don't need for a single event to happen outside of ourself.
Speaker 4: These events that are outside of ourselves are calling us
Speaker 4: back inward because this is where the true realization and
Speaker 4: transformation happens.
Speaker 3: In turns, you're telling me we've been outside.
Speaker 4: I'm outside.
Speaker 3: Hey, we've been outside. Listen. When we come forward, you
Speaker 3: already know on the other side, were getting ready to
Speaker 3: land a plane. Y'all call in so we can ask
Speaker 3: you questions. The number dout one eight hundred nine twenty
Speaker 3: fifteen eighty black boy.
Speaker 17: Black light and shadows dancing together. That's how I see
Speaker 17: the siliverse. And if you love him, he will show
Speaker 17: it to you. It's the most.
Speaker 18: Strange experience that no human tongue can tell only by
Speaker 18: experiencing loving God. This whole show is to love Him,
Speaker 18: and everybody is our own one.
Speaker 5: We love him, Love him with.
Speaker 18: All your heart, and do not be tempted. God's greatest
Speaker 18: temptation is sex, wine, and money. And if you can
Speaker 18: do your best with all your mind and your heart,
Speaker 18: never have anything there but the love of God. And
Speaker 18: God will tempt you very much, But do not ail
Speaker 18: to his temptation if you want him. And if you
Speaker 18: want him, surely he shall take away the delusion. And
Speaker 18: there is no comparison between temptation and God. But I
Speaker 18: wait temptation and God, and I found him more tempting
Speaker 18: than temptation. So in the glory of that joy, in
Speaker 18: the glory of that communion, I know the whole world
Speaker 18: forsakes me. He will never forsake me. The whole world
Speaker 18: arouds me. I will be nothing better. Praise does not
Speaker 18: make me better, not brain make me less. I am
Speaker 18: what I am, before my conscience, before the two souls
Speaker 18: that think of me and know me as I am,
Speaker 18: and before my father.
Speaker 3: So man par Mahanza Yogananda, Oh yes, yes, now see
Speaker 3: Parmahnsa was known for being in a state of divine
Speaker 3: ecstasy when he entered that Samedi state of meditation, like
Speaker 3: he taps into the communion of the higher consciousness. Right,
Speaker 3: What I'm proposing here is that intimate relationship is designed
Speaker 3: to lead you into the inner path. But often we
Speaker 3: have built relationships around our needs. Right, we don't understand
Speaker 3: that we're in a divine play that is designed to
Speaker 3: get us back to a state of self remembrance and
Speaker 3: that self that S is with a capital S, not
Speaker 3: the small egoic self that you know, that that is
Speaker 3: merged and enmeshed into this wound identity that we have
Speaker 3: that gives us our entitlements, our judgments and all of that.
Speaker 3: But I believe that there's this higher level. Right, We've
Speaker 3: got Cali Soul on the line, and I definitely want
Speaker 3: to ask her another question, and I want to get
Speaker 3: your answer on it too, CALLI are you on the
Speaker 3: line with us?
Speaker 14: I'm still here.
Speaker 3: I gotta go. Great question. M you ready?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir?
Speaker 3: When you say my partner should make me feel safe,
Speaker 3: what amount of that statement describes intimacy and what amount
Speaker 3: assigns another adult responsibility for your internal regulation?
Speaker 14: All of it makes another adult responsibility responsible for your
Speaker 14: internal regulation. It's not a good idea.
Speaker 3: But isn't that the way relationship is designed? A good
Speaker 3: partner is supposed to come in and kind of take
Speaker 3: the edge off of you.
Speaker 4: We're socialized to believe that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, m hm, talk to me, ladies. You guys have
Speaker 3: the floor.
Speaker 4: We're socialized to believe that. But that is a relationship
Speaker 4: different in different parts of the world. Right, Even the
Speaker 4: concept of marrying for love, that is a very Western thing.
Speaker 4: It's usually more of a practical decision as you you know,
Speaker 4: reach out to other countries. But it's it's an impossibility
Speaker 4: because safety is not real.
Speaker 3: And because of impermanence.
Speaker 4: Well yes, well it's in perception tight like we perceive
Speaker 4: that we are safe. But if we find out that
Speaker 4: somebody put ten pounds of bombs up under the building,
Speaker 4: you're gonna find out how safe you really are. Right,
Speaker 4: But what we can achieve is sacredness, right with how
Speaker 4: we treat a connection, and that also gets you to
Speaker 4: treat the relationship different. How does it to have all
Speaker 4: of these rules when it's about sacredness versus safety?
Speaker 3: I need you, guys, I need you both to expound
Speaker 3: on this idea of sacredness. Is it's sacredness something that
Speaker 3: is that can only be found in the now? Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: talk to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's presence. And for something to be sacred,
Speaker 4: you have to be able to have enough reverence to
Speaker 4: achieve presence, right, But for something to be safe, you
Speaker 4: got to lock it up, keep it away from other people.
Speaker 4: So if a relationship is sacred, it's not that you're
Speaker 4: keeping it away from other people. It's how you approach
Speaker 4: The connection is with sacredness, with reverence. You see what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, and so other people have access to it,
Speaker 4: so it don't have control over it.
Speaker 3: Is also a secret, No, that's.
Speaker 14: How we've been trained. Though sacred is secret.
Speaker 8: No, that's not truth, but.
Speaker 4: It's not the truth. Sacred is not a secret noyes
Speaker 4: from everyone.
Speaker 14: Yes, it's like people turn into Egel.
Speaker 19: Like, oh and I cannot you know, I bet not
Speaker 19: be trying to share you with nobody.
Speaker 3: I did not trying to share you with Who's.
Speaker 19: That's danger, you know, like the way we've been trained,
Speaker 19: that's danger. And what's interesting about the question you asked
Speaker 19: about letting someone else be responsible or your internal experience
Speaker 19: what you want to experience. When I did that, I
Speaker 19: was so miserable and I couldn't even understand why.
Speaker 3: Let's go deeper let's go deeper. Let's go deeper as
Speaker 3: as women. Do you need your needs Matt?
Speaker 4: If so, why, well, it depends on what type of needs.
Speaker 3: About stop pressure, halloweens stop. You know.
Speaker 4: How older that you get, the less you need you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It's just like there's things that
Speaker 4: I prefer for my comfort, but no, can I say
Speaker 4: it like this. The best thing that somebody's ever done
Speaker 4: for me in an intimate setting was to let me
Speaker 4: be free, let me show give me the space to
Speaker 4: be free. I mean, I can talk to you about
Speaker 4: anything because there are no rules. It's a sacred space
Speaker 4: that is created versus safety.
Speaker 3: So that's like the the video I sent you guys
Speaker 3: on Instagram where that dog was running crazy in a circle,
Speaker 3: and I was like, this is the type of environment
Speaker 3: that women need in order to feel.
Speaker 4: Something, oh right, right, right right?
Speaker 3: Yes. And I wasn't saying like women were dogs a dog.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a dog. It was like a rabbit or something.
Speaker 4: It was, yes, I think it was. It was some
Speaker 4: kind of animal. But it's like this when you let
Speaker 4: children right, not to say that people are children, but
Speaker 4: when you let a child free in their environments, Yes,
Speaker 4: they actually have less chance of injuring themselves because they
Speaker 4: get to experience the room. If you let them walk ahead,
Speaker 4: you'll learn they learn their own natural safety zone or
Speaker 4: what is permissible. But it's from letting them go, not
Speaker 4: by keeping them. I mean. And don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: I would love to put a leash on my grandson
Speaker 4: because they just love them so much. I don't want
Speaker 4: them to get away. But the reality is it's better
Speaker 4: to let his parents are pretty good about allowing him
Speaker 4: to explore his environment, so he's learned what's okay and
Speaker 4: what's not okay.
Speaker 3: You guys know this conversation is radical encountering. Yeah, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: because we've been taught in reverse. You show up, you
Speaker 3: provide for me internally, externally, and it's this constant recip right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the reality of it is, maybe we've we've gotten
Speaker 3: it wrong backwards.
Speaker 4: See that's the thing. When you say wrong, it's the judge.
Speaker 4: Maybe that was the necessary for us to be able
Speaker 4: to evolve into the space. Maybe we needed to have
Speaker 4: it backwards, you know, like we were saying Andy, no right,
Speaker 4: no wrong.
Speaker 3: It's just is I like that.
Speaker 4: You know, And so it's those experiences that maybe didn't
Speaker 4: feel so good that I really appreciate because it helped
Speaker 4: me get to the center of who I am.
Speaker 3: We're cooking with the Rads, Grease. Don't go nowhere, Cali,
Speaker 3: I got another question for you on the other side.
Speaker 3: Listen when we come forward. More from Cali from Denver,
Speaker 3: Colorado and Precious. It's homeless Wednesdays and we've been cooking
Speaker 3: with the Raris Grease.
Speaker 13: Everyone is such a and I have to tell her
Speaker 13: something about glove. I just have made the video service
Speaker 13: about it. Now, everybody knows about the word love, but
Speaker 13: people put different meanings to it. But to all us
Speaker 13: think that love it's all about molecule molecules, Like the
Speaker 13: major molecules are dopamine and boxycin and thin. Is it
Speaker 13: just a play of molecules? Others think not, because you know,
Speaker 13: fluff falls apart except for the romantic fast when they
Speaker 13: come out of it, it falls apart in no time.
Speaker 3: So if it was just molecules, okay, you know, I
Speaker 3: love emit. Goswami. Now it's a theoretical physicist, you know,
Speaker 3: and he deals deeply with consciousness. But we ain't got
Speaker 3: time to go through the depth of what he's saying,
Speaker 3: and then the heavy accent in the show. I could
Speaker 3: do it, but late in the show. No, not late
Speaker 3: in the show. We're gonna play that same clip tomorrow
Speaker 3: early where we can sit down and process. But I
Speaker 3: hear what he's saying. He's gonna get into the consciousness
Speaker 3: of it. We got Cali Soul on the line from Difver, Colorado.
Speaker 3: I have a final question for Cali before we land
Speaker 3: the plane. Man, this is interesting. How much jealousy, control, possession, resentment, bargaining,
Speaker 3: and abandon and abandonment terror grows logically from one single belief? Now,
Speaker 3: this belief I'm about to share is suppose psychological need
Speaker 3: begins with one hidden premise something outside me must happen
Speaker 3: before I can become whole. So how much jealousy, control, possession, resentment, bargaining,
Speaker 3: and abandonment terror grows logically from that single belief?
Speaker 14: All of it?
Speaker 3: Yikes? Have you ever experienced it? Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 14: Oh yeah?
Speaker 3: Well how do you fight that off? You know that
Speaker 3: Memoris say, I'm fighting for my life, he fighting for
Speaker 3: his life. How do you fight that off? That feeling
Speaker 3: of oh my god, the resentment, abandonment, this terror, that
Speaker 3: I'm not enough. How do you fight all of that
Speaker 3: off in order to get back into this kind of integrated,
Speaker 3: healed space.
Speaker 4: I don't know that you should be fighting it off.
Speaker 4: If you have to fight it off, you haven't arrived
Speaker 4: wherever you are, be all there because it won't be
Speaker 4: a struggle, you know, just witness it. It's like that
Speaker 4: how I was saying, allowing the baby to explore the room.
Speaker 4: It's really the best way for them to know what
Speaker 4: works and what doesn't, versus you know, having the baby
Speaker 4: be so disciplined that it doesn't get to experience life.
Speaker 4: It's an eventuality.
Speaker 3: I love that, Kelly. So you know you did your
Speaker 3: thing today. I'm very proud of you with this experiment.
Speaker 3: You're very transparent and open. So it leads me to
Speaker 3: ask you this one final question. All right, guess what
Speaker 3: you just did?
Speaker 14: Chad Oh, I can answer this question easy. I bought
Speaker 14: Denver into the building.
Speaker 3: Denvergh Colorado in the building. Thank you for this was great, great, great.
Speaker 3: I always love Holness Wednesdays because we get to dig
Speaker 3: deep into the spiritual and philosophical and metaphysical topics. I
Speaker 3: will say this, my patience is growing thin for my
Speaker 3: people tell me I am profit Elijah of relationships. I
Speaker 3: only pop out to tell you when you're headed for disaster, right, Hey,
Speaker 3: the end of the world's coming. We better pull it
Speaker 3: together if we're gonna get right. I do belie leave
Speaker 3: that relationship is the catalyst for individuation. And I think
Speaker 3: people are misusing it, right, they're using it for leisure
Speaker 3: and pleasure. And you know, escapism and this isn't This
Speaker 3: is a relationship is a spiritual technology for the access
Speaker 3: to higher consciousness, for recommunion with God. I think that's
Speaker 3: what relationship is actually for. And we've turned it into
Speaker 3: a damn escapist resort. Your final thought on that you
Speaker 3: got eighties.
Speaker 4: Eight It is, indeed, but that's a part of it, right.
Speaker 4: Even we shouldn't be attached to the timing or the outcome,
Speaker 4: because spiritually speaking, there is no time that's linear and
Speaker 4: the outcome. All roads lead to God, so.
Speaker 3: All roll lead to God. Now you might have to
Speaker 3: go through the hood.
Speaker 4: Gotta go through the hood.
Speaker 3: You might have to go through.
Speaker 4: The woods, the woods.
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